Cooper Kupp and AJ Barner Are Super Bowl Champs & Drew Brees Talks Hall of Fame Induction | EP 179

We got to get to the question everyone. wants to know. Have you slept? Has it. just been a non-stop party? >> His eye is not working, Travis. We. already went over this. >> My eye is not working. So, the sleep. hasn't been asleep hasn't been great. >> Come on now. >> I woke up this morning at 6:00 wide. awake. I'm in a great I mean, I've got. so much gratitude for this journey, for. what what this year's been. And. >> King of the Castle. King of the castles. >> You just can't have you can't have a. meaningful moment with him. You just You. know what I mean, Jason? >> Yes. [laughter] Daddy, I'm hearing you.

[music]. >> Welcome back to New Heist, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages of. all over the world. The 92enters, we. love you and we can't wait to get into. this post Super Bowl Sunday. conversation. Uh, New Heights is a. wonder brought to you by Xfinity. We're. your host. I'm Travis Kelsey. My big. brother Jason Kelsey representing the US. of A. Subscribe on YouTube Plus wherever.

you get your podcast and follow the show. on all social media at New Height Show. with 1 for fun clips throughout the. week. Jason, we have one of my favorite. shows of all time. It is the end of the. season. It is the end of the NFL season. Today should be one of those madeup. holidays that you absolutely hate. But. can you just tell the people what we. have coming up? >> Well, it's kind of crazy, Tra. This is. actually the first year we've done this. show where the Eagles or Chiefs haven't. won the Super Bowl. [laughter]. >> That's [ __ ]. >> How nuts is that? That is [ __ ] wild. >> That's insane. >> So, because neither one of us are in any.

way a part of our teams winning the. Super Bowl, WE HAVE DECIDED TO INVITE. TWO OF THE SUPER BOWL 60 CHAMPIONS ON. THIS SHOW TODAY. THAT'S RIGHT. COOPER. CUP AND AJ BARNER ARE ON THE PROGRAM. TODAY. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO. EVERYTHING ELSE WE GOT INTO IN SAN. Francisco. as well as get into an incredible. conversation with First Ballot Hall of. Famer Drew. All righty. It's an absolutely stacked.

episode, but before we get any of that, we're going to get into what we always. get into, and that's a little bit of. that new news. >> New news. >> New news is brought to you by American. Express. >> How about it, man? We got some. scheduling updates for you guys. That's. right. 92enters. We got a lot of guests. coming up. We have been hot. >> We've been working. We've been working. >> That's right. We've we've we've been. talking to all the people we've always. wanted to talk to, and we're looking. forward to bringing those conversations. to you guys. We have a short little. break, but the episodes will be coming.

out. Don't worry, we've got some. doozies. WE GOT TROY AMAN, RANDY MOSS, JOHN HAM, CHRIS STAPLETON, THE. WORKAHOLICS, AJ BROWN, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU know when all. these guest episodes are releasing. Um, and if you still need more Kelsey in. your life, Travis finally appeared on. Not Going to Lie. That's right. Kylie. Kelsey's podcast, Not Going to Lie. Tra, how was it? >> Not going to lie, it was kind of more. fun talking to her than you. I'm not. going to lie. I understand why you married her um a.

long time ago, but she asked me one. question that was like I I sat there and. I thought about it and I wish I would uh. answered it better. My first impressions. of her were that she was such a. sweetheart. And I said this at your. guys' wedding when I when I did the. wedding speech, but I was like, she is. such a sweetheart. She's so nice. she. is. But I was like, you don't just win. Jason's love and [laughter] and you. don't you don't win him over in terms of.

like doing the things getting him to do. the things that you want him to do like. be a like respectable human being. You. don't view those kind of things by just. being a sweetheart. So, I knew there was. an underlining like toughness to her. that I hadn't. And then we went to the. shore and and she started talking butt. butter. She's talking water. She started. talking. I can't even [ __ ] do them. Philly accent like like it needs to be. done. But I s I saw her in her element.

and that's where I knew I was like, "Oh, she's got him wrapped up around her. finger. this dude y. >> is lost in the so he doesn't know. anything but Kai and from that point on. it's just been that and I've loved. having her as a as a sister-in-law and. it's been so cool to see her take off in. her own right and uh not going to lie it. was a [ __ ] blast dude. >> that's awesome yeah I dude the episode. turned out great you and Kai's chemistry. in anything that you do you just like. have like a I'm serious you guys. >> second child man the second child's the.

best dude. >> no doubt. >> we relate. We relate. >> Well, you also admitted that you have. never read a rundown, which I'm sure the. producers of the show love that. They. were very appreciative. >> What's a rundown? >> All righty. Kylie also adopted an otter. in your name, apparently. Something I. didn't even know. >> Uncle Travis's over there in the Philly. zoo. Man, we got to get over there, man. I got to meet this this uh I think it's. a uh it's a wild or like a a great river.

otter. I forget the uh the actual name. of this otter. It's not the honor that's. in my dreams, but it is an honor to be a. part of the Philly Zoo like that. So, I. got to get over there and say what's up. >> We'll get over there next time you come. into town. That'd be a great uh out of. the house segment. Uh we also got to. talk about uh Travis dominating in front. of thousands of people OVER AT THE WASTE. MANAGEMENT. >> DOMINATING. >> YEAH. >> I mean, at least on whole 16, we don't. need to look at all the other stuff. The. biggest hole in the whole freaking. thing, the part three in front of the.

grand stands. Thousands of people's eyes. are on Travis Kelce. >> It felt like I was walking into the. coliseum. [clears throat] There's like a. little tunnel and I got a cool video. Uh. Chris Pearson was was kind of following. us around. He got a cool video of us. like walking into the dude. It is such. an epic like you have to do it. Golf. lovers everywhere. You have to go to. this hole. The 16th hole at at Waste. Management at the Phoenix Open is. unbelievable. is such a unique like experience. And.

honestly, it's not just the 16th hole. It's the 17th and 18th. It's the It's. how you finish it off. It's like nothing. I've ever been a part of in my life. But. you walk into that 16th hole, it's an. arena. It's an arena of just people that. will either boo you or get hype or get. excited over like you getting close to. the [ __ ] pin. I was in my element. >> You give me a bunch of drunk people with. an opportunity to get them fired up, I. feel like that's like [laughter] my. that's like my home. That's like my home and I felt very.

comfortable. I will say this though, my. guy, my caddy Patrick Bacon, he's taking. a lot of credit for this. I went last. Everybody that went had the number was. short. They all went short. And I'm. looking at this too and I'm like. questioning in my mind, should I club up. or should I just trust my strength over. theirs? Like I'm hold I'm in my head. about this. And Patrick Bacon comes up. to me and says, "Hey, >> what do you got in your hand? You should. probably re rethink this and go get a.

club on. [laughter]. And not that I wasn't already thinking. that, but he gave me the reassurance. So, I'll give Patty Bakes the the whole. he called he called me off and told me. to club up. I'll give him the compliment. there. But he's uh he's taking full. credit for talking to anybody. >> He's not shying away from talking about. which he should. Which you should. That's what Caddies do. You know what I. mean? They're part of it's a team game. Well, I don't think a lot of caddies do. take credit, but Bacon does for sure. >> It was a 150 shot and I or 155, whatever.

it is, and I went from holding a pitch. pitching wedge to holding a 9 iron and. the nine iron stuck 2 feet from it. And. when I tell you I stood over the ball. for I don't even know how long. Somebody. sent me a video and I was st I was like. I was staring at the ball this long. I. [laughter] don't remember doing that, >> dude. It's intimidating. It really puts. it into perspective for like these guys. like Rory and these guys making these. like putts to win the entire tournament. and and way more is at stake. That's got.

to be crazy. >> That wasn't even the hardest part. >> Oh, what was the hardest part? >> Standing over the two foot putt. That. I'm saying. >> was the hardest part, dude. Though the. when I was back there holding the nine. iron, I'm like, I'm just going to give. this thing a [ __ ] run and throw it up. there. And that thing [ __ ] drew over. I felt like I hit it further up in the. air than I hit it further in distance. That thing went high. That thing went so. [ __ ] high in the air. The first thing. the guy on the mic that was doing the uh. the entire like uh 16th hole, he was. introducing everybody. As soon as I hit. it, he was like, "Whoa, look at that.

That thing went high up in the air.". [laughter]. Everybody's like. like waiting for that thing to [ __ ]. come down and then it just stuck. It. didn't do much after uh after it hit and. it was perfect, man. >> So, are you saying you probably actually. hit the wrong club? You probably hit it. a couple grooves high, which made it. actually the right club. >> It was the perfect club. >> All right. All right. All right. [laughter]. >> I didn't catch any grass. That thing was. teed up just a little bit and I hit it. smooth and it was it was so much fun.

just being at that event though. I got. to hang with Scotty Sheffller. I got to. hang with Brooks Kepka. Shout out to. Brooks for for being such a good dude. and being back into the madness. and. Scotty, he was over there with his kid. and it was such a [ __ ] unique event. And these proams are so [ __ ] cool. And I had that as a bucket list item in. my mind of like, yeah, there's. unbelievable courses all over the world, but if I could ever get a shot at the. 16th hole at waste management, I can't.

pass that up. I was telling like, "No, sweetie. I I have to go. >> I'm sorry. I have to do this. This is. the mecca. This is like reaching the. Super Bowl of like golf world and um and. it was and it didn't disappoint. Waste. management crowd is so [ __ ] they're. so lit and so excited and so there for. those moments that it didn't disappoint, man. It was so much fun. >> Well, that's awesome, brother. It was an. incredible shot. I loved watching every. bit of it. Where do you think it ranks. in your athletic achievements of all.

time? >> I mean, it's number one in my golf. achievements for sure. [laughter]. There's nothing that even comes close. That was the closest I've ever gotten to. a hole in one. Like that was it was like. the perfect shot for the perfect time. that that I'll I'll live through. forever. I'll be able to watch those. videos forever. I had Jim Nance talking. about it during the [ __ ] Friday. broadcast or the s the Saturday Sunday. broadcast. If Jim Nance is talking about. my golf, I'm doing something right. [laughter]. >> There you go. All right. Well, once. again, News is brought to you by.

American Express. Let's keep this thing. moving. >> Let's get to some bold topics. Super. Bowl edition. How about it? Both topics. is brought to you by Pepsi, one of our. favorites. We were a Pepsi household. growing up. I'm a wild cherry Pepsi fan. myself. Big guy Kelsey likes a nice. little diet Pepsi. Um, but shout out to. all the Pepsi out there. Seahawks are. your Super Bowl 60 champions. And we. love the old Northeast Ohio ball player. and Mike Vrabel and a lot of the. Patriots over there. But, um, the. Seahawks, they had the juice going into.

it, man. And they defeated the Patriots. 2913. I'm not gonna lie. I kind of imagined. this would happen and and it and it. definitely was a good game and there was. a point there when Drake Bay started. getting the [ __ ] juices going in the. uh in the late Yeah. late third, early. fourth and um and they started to make a. run at it, but man, the Seahawks just. had too much, man. With Kenneth Walker, with uh our guy AJ Barner and Cooper. Cup, man, they just had the juice. And. um I couldn't be happier for the guys.

over there because a lot of the guys are. guys you can root for, man. >> Yeah. I mean, listen, it's it's the. Super Bowl. All both of these teams are. very good. Both of their defenses had. been playing, you know, out of their. minds all postseason. And uh Seattle is. just loaded across the board. Like they. don't a team that really doesn't have a. weakness, which is kind of why I thought. that they would prevail. Like it felt. like they were the more talented group. across the board. But you never know. I. mean, the Patriots were such a good. team. So well coached. Yeah. >> By coach Ves and Josh McDaniels. like.

all year they just had been. overachieving and yeah Seattle just. proved to be a little bit too much man. they're unbelievable on the defensive. side of the ball offensively they didn't. make the mistakes that you know they had. kind of been prone to right like Sam. Darnold had a bunch of turnovers in the. regular season doesn't have any in the. postseason and he didn't do that by. being conservative he was still taking. his chances he was still being. aggressive through the air but you got. to give some love to the kicker how. about this we're giving love to the. kickers. >> pinning some guys down inside the five. MAKING FIELD GOALS I DAMN, JASON MYERS.

I MEAN, I THROUGH THE FIRST HALF there. was only field goals. This guy was. nailing everything. >> This guy went over with Pat McAfee. trying to kick a field goal and all of a. sudden he has appreciation for the. kicking game now. >> I mean, listen, it's the biggest game of. the year, man. Freaking nailing kicks. Those are huge. >> Trailed for 1 minute and 35 seconds. total this entire playoffs. How [ __ ]. insane is that? >> That is crazy. So, they just got off to. the jump and just freaking were leading. all the way. I mean they blew out San. Fran then the big one was the Rams game.

>> which that was the team they had. struggled with and had the closest. battles with all season. So yeah I mean. it is surprising. I mean they were the. best team in football this year. The. reality was like if you look at it. across the board it was really them and. LA those two teams in that division were. the most consistently great teams all. season long. And like yeah the Patriots. had an incredible season on the in the. AFC. So did the Broncos. But I thought. that those two teams in particular were. the best all year. They continued that. throughout the playoffs and they. continued in the Super Bowl. And it's a. credit to Sam Darnold for where he's.

come in his career, all the ups and. downs and being with five different. teams. Cooper Cup gets cast out in LA, comes back, resurgence in Seattle. It's. just a remarkable story of a a team. assembled and how great they ended up. being across the board. It reminds me a. lot of, you know, our 17 season and I. mean, a lot of Super Bowl teams, but you. get like just the right group of guys. that all come together, man. And it.

feels like everything's clicking. The. chemistry is there. I mean, Sam Darnold. is now everybody's talking about being a. star, but certainly not while the whole. season was happening. You know, it. doesn't have that like star-studded MVP. quarterback. I mean, I think Leonard. Williams is unbelievable. Doesn't have. the, you know, the Aaron Donald or like. the Miles Garrett. They're just so all. really, really good across the board. They were a great team and it's an. incredible year for that city and that. franchise. And Mike McDonald in his. second year in Seattle. And. >> how about that, man? Mike McDonald's the.

same age as Jason Kelce. >> We just hired an offensive coordinator. that's 33 years old. It's nuts, man. I. mean, teams keep hiring these younger. coaches, and I think it's for a reason, man. I think these young guys come in. and they're they're very smart, but they. have a they have a mindset that's open. They're they're eager to prove. themselves. Not I mean, listen, the old. ball coaches have great strengths and. whatnot, too. A lot of experience, but I. I think it's interesting that it appears. that, you know, the league keeps going. younger and younger with a lot of these. coaching hires. Congrats to Mike. McDonald. He finally gets to see his.

son. [laughter] Um, >> nice, man. >> All right, you've heard enough of our. thoughts on the game. Let's get to. someone who actually PLAYED IN IT. 92. >> PLEASE, WELCOME BACK TO THE TWOTIME. SUPER BOWL CHAMPION AND THE FIRST EVER. IN NFL history to lead two different. franchises of receiving yards in a Super. Bowl win, Mr. Cooper Cup. [screaming]. >> Thank you guys. >> Coop. Congrats big guy.

>> Thank you. >> That was a hell of a game. How are you. feeling? >> Yeah, you know, uh, net positive. We're. in a net positive state [laughter] right. now. Let's go. >> Yeah, it's been incredible. >> Torell still still hanging on right now. or what? >> Yeah, we're doing great. We're doing. great over here. >> There we go. >> Yeah. You know, my my left eye is not. working great. It's been, you know, not. a whole lot of sleep the last couple. days. >> Um, >> but it's been fantastic. Been fantastic. >> as it should be.

>> Is the left eye not working a result of. the game or not sleeping? >> It's just not sleeping. It's just. >> and his commitment to party. >> Way to go. >> This is the thing, guys. I'm not even. >> [ __ ] I'm partying with my boys. >> I wish I had a great story for you guys, but this is what happened. >> All right. >> Our boys, you know, I got three little. boys. And when I'm with the family after. the game, >> you know, they they had a long day. They. were pumped. They were out there. screaming their their lungs out. They. started crashing around 12:00. You know,

it started so so it was really what what. the issue was getting them ready for. bed. You know, I was I'm we're changing. diapers. We're getting pajamas on. >> Pajamas have holes in them, which. obviously aren't going to work. They're. not going to work for bedtime. You got. to get those got to get pajamas. >> It was It was It's the family stuff, man. It's the family stuff. Life goes. on. You win a championship, you win a. Super Bowl, all stuff, but man, life. goes on. It is funny because I was. fortunate to win one in 17 before I had. kids and it was a non-stop party for.

like f four or five days and then the. Super Bowl. We lost the Super Bowl so. that was part of it too. I didn't I mean. I was with my family the moment the game. was over and you're just like basking in. that. So I'm sure. >> you've you've experienced it a couple. different ways at this point, right? Like pretty awesome. >> Yeah, it is. It's amazing and that's. what I mean you have your moment in the. locker room with the guys and that's. such a special thing but then it's like. >> how quick can I find my family be with. be with my boys be with my wife and that. was I mean sharing this it was like.

>> when we're not we're not jumping around. the room screaming it was just like the. silence of just being able. >> hold my boys have my wife right next to. me like that was. >> that was all I wanted. >> that's awesome brother congratulations. >> thank you. >> congrats again brother the uh two time. Cooper Cup, the the first time is always. the sweetest, man. The the second time. has to be [ __ ] epic for you right. now. Especially cuz it's. >> it's with a team that that it seemed. like you guys just had the [ __ ] like.

you guys just had the juice, man. And. it's and it's such a unique thing when. you see the team loving each other like. it was. Like you told us the stories uh. last week and it was just you could tell. how close you guys were. >> Yeah. Mike McDonald, your coach, after. the game even say Cooper is an absolute. force multiplier, an absolute stud of a. person, stud of a teammate. Have you. been called a stud this many times in. your life? [laughter]. >> It's a lot of It's a lot of stud. It's a. lot of stud. >> Um, >> there we go. It's a net positive guy.

>> Yeah. Net Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. >> Can't look past this, though. This This. should cement him in the Hall of Fame in. my opinion. Super Bowl MVP, two-time. champion, alltime great teammate. The. guy was just loving you up at at the end. of it, man. It just shows how close you. guys are, man. >> Yeah, man. We got we got a great group. Real quick, you gota plunge that plunge. that French press for me. Um. you got to plunge the French press for. me. Yep. There we go. Pull yourself. down. You just.

>> Okay. In the future, you just a nice. slow nice slow press. Nice slow. >> Was that too much? Was that too fast? >> Yeah, it was it was a little fast, but. it's okay. >> In the future. >> Yeah. There we go. Yeah. Look at that. [laughter] Look at that. It's a That's a good color. >> Yeah, [snorts] that's a good looking cup. of coffee. >> Smell it. >> But yeah, this was this this group this. group. It was so much fun to be a part. of. >> I can't I can't stop you. This is. unbelievable. It's still going out. >> But yeah, this group was so much fun. It. was so much fun to be a part of this. this team. And um you know, I've I've.

appreciated working with Mike. He's been. unbelievable. and and I mean all those. things he said you don't get you don't. go to the Hall of Fame for being a great. teammate but you don't go to the Hall of. Fame for winning six Super Bowls either. we just learned right so I mean. [laughter]. >> that's a tough bit to the Hall of Fame. >> what is what exactly are the credentials. to get me in the hall. >> yeah it's up for debate right now. apparently but you'll be in [laughter].

he'll be in that sorry I just had that. one just popped in my head as I was. talking I feel like you've only had. coaches under the age of 40, >> which is insane. Like, what is the. everyday like? Because I've literally. only been in a building where it feels. like my football dad or like my [ __ ]. like uncle is like looking at me like, "You need to pick this [ __ ] up." And. it's like there's like an authority. figure that's like there that's like. >> has like the years of wisdom through. like the like Brett Favre and like the.

the legends that we grew up playing. Like. >> I only have that understanding through. through that. Like what is it like. playing for a guy that's like young, high energy, like not to say that Andy. Scott, but go ahead. >> Oh yeah. No, I I mean it is it's that. that's all I know. So, um, you know, I've had young coaches, yeah, basically. my entire life. I mean, same thing in. college. So, um, I don't know any. different. Energy and all that stuff is. is fantastic. And there's no there.

there's never been an issue in terms of. the like wisdom piece or the authority. piece. I say lack of lack of wisdom. >> Yeah. But I I think what I've. appreciated is there's a there's. >> there's like from Mike, there's been a. humility that I think is is really. special. And um you know I think the. like accountability is a big part of. that being able to admit that you don't. know everything. And that's a that's a. huge part of being a leader that is, you. know, undervalued. And, you know, if you. if you think you know it all, it's tough.

to it's tough to collaborate. And and. collaboration is where football lives, you know, and um you know, he's been. he's been awesome about that. And uh. yeah, so I've really enjoyed being with. Mike. >> Dude, I can't agree more. Like I' i've. had young coaches, I've had old coaches. and don't get me wrong, Andy reads a. 101, Trav, but. >> yeah, >> I find a lot of the times these young. coaches that are hungry and really. trying to make it do have this growth. mindset just inherently like they're. they want knowledge. They're trying to.

grow as much as possible. >> and they don't think they have. everything figured out and that's. definely one of their advantages. >> Yeah. Uh, and as far as like leading. anybody, like don't get me wrong, if. you've done something before, it's you. get that initial buy in easier, but at. the end of the day, players just if you. as a coach or a leader, as a player on. the team, if I feel like you genuinely. want me to be a better football player, not for any ulterior motive of like. career furtherman or like whatever other. bull crap gets in the way, like if you.

genuinely I can tell that you just want. what's like me to be the best version of. myself I can Dude, I will follow that. guy like wherever. Like he's honest or. like authentic, all that stuff. And it. feels like Mike has that in spades. Obviously, you guys. >> had that like incredibly all year round. You could feel the tightness to this. team. >> Yeah. >> Let me let me get this back to the game, though. >> Yeah. >> Did it is this what how the game was. expected to go? Like what what did you. guys think as the game was going around?

>> Yeah. I mean, we expected to go out. there and win the thing, you know. We expected it. But there's. >> but you know you're playing against a. good really really good football team. You're not in this you don't get to the. Super Bowl regardless of all the. storylines around like they had to. navigate the story lines about you know. whether they deserve to be there all. this stuff and that's just. >> it's all. >> it's all baloney, right? It's all. nonsense. >> They are in the Super Bowl. >> for a reason. They're a good football. team. They're well coached. There's good. players over there. Um so you know. you're playing against the best in the.

world. It's the best in the world. Like. you're in the NFL. You're playing. against the best in the world. But the. expectation was to go out there and win. and and I thought they had a they had a. really good plan early on. I thought. offensively, you know, we were uphill on. a lot of plays early on where it's like, man, they've they've got a good feel for. stuff. They're they're putting their. players in really good positions and um. and we were making some mistakes that. didn't allow us to finish drives and. luckily, you know, JMI was unbelievable. finishing drives and field goals for us. But then what what I mean. >> end of the day the the defense just. played lights out and and that's that.

gives you so much confidence offensively. when those guys are just like stop after. stop after stop and you just know that. hey guys some some of these drives like. like an eight played drive. >> that that eats up clock and flips the. field is a win offensively at this point. in the game. Right. Like. >> right it's crazy man. >> We play this game. We just do the things. right. like we don't need to play. outside of our own stuff that they've. got a good plan for us. Let's make some. plays. Let's finish these drives. The. defense is going to get us into a short. field and we're going to go finish it,

get score a touchdown u and put the game. away. And I thought um as the game went. on and that became clear that this is a. game that we can be in that space, we. did a good job adjusting and being able. to be in a place where it's like, hey, we can just we can grind this game out. where it's not even a chance. We don't. give them a chance to to do anything. >> Amen, brother. And you guys did just. that. >> Yep. Do you have any idea what's what's. in store for the future? Have you. thought about that? Are you still in. reflection mode at least for the next. foreseeable few days? >> I mean, yeah, I think you take take a.

couple days and enjoy this. Um, it's. it's the NFL, you know, like this this. team that we had this year is not going. to be the same. And I'm enjoying, you. know, we got today, tomorrow is the. parade and we get, you know, our last. two days to be with this team. and what. this 2025 26 CL Seahawks team was about. Um, but then it's then it's going to be. look forward and um, you know, you love. to I love to be a part of this. organization and what these guys are.

doing and and what what's been being. built here and then the the goal is then. like, hey, you you've got you got six. weeks until you know, six weeks until I. guess eight weeks until OKA start. So, >> right, >> you know, how are you going to start. building for what this organization is. going to do for the next year? And um it. doesn't be it doesn't stop. Time keeps. going on and we got we got like Seattle. Seahawks of 2026 27. >> It technically starts now, you know, and. so we're already we're behind. >> I love it. I love it. Isn't it crazy?

You win the freaking Super Bowl and then. immediately you're already thinking. about what I have to do to get back. there. But it doesn't stop. >> That's why you have to enjoy I have to. say you have to enjoy the journey. The. journey is everything. Because if you're. if you're living for this, if you're. living for this week, like this is one. this is one week you get to enjoy the. game, be with your family, reflect on. it, the parade happens, and it's like. you got to move forward. And this is. you're not going to find everyone's. everyone here is going to be like, man, it hasn't hit me yet. >> It's not going to hit you. It's not it's. not like a moment that's like, oh, suddenly it's going to happen. It's.

like, no, what you're going to remember. is, you know, some of this some of this. week, but what what you're going to. remember is, you know, the training. camp, like the grind of things and being. like, man, I I remember the when we were. exhausted. So, the conversation we had. in the locker room where guys are are so. tired that they're laughing. They're. like giggling because they're just so. delusional, you know, but it's like, man, those are so those moments is all. this all those things that are going to. be so valuable. All the adversity that. you deal with, all those things. How how. low did we go? how all these moments. that were like, man, you're at the. bottom that make the top feel so much.

better and you're going to remember that. journey and and that's that's what's. most valuable piece of this whole thing. >> Dude, you're going to be [ __ ] fired. up right now. >> Seriously, get goosebumps. >> That shit's epic, man. >> We do got to wrap. I got one more. question. Parade tomorrow. What What are. we rolling with for the parade? You got. an outfit selected? You. >> I'm talking to the costume. I'm actually. talking to the outfit [laughter]. here. X I I I want to do something I. want to do something cool, you know. I. want to do I've had thoughts like do get.

do you get an Ichiro jersey? Do you do. like a King Griffy? Do you do something. like that? You know, there's I don't. know. >> Listen, Jason, if you've got an idea, you you send it over to me and we can. maybe make [laughter] if it aligns, we. make something happen. You know what I. mean? >> All right. Okay. You let me know. >> Let me I'm going to get this coffee in. me and then these ideas just start. flowing. That's how it works. >> He's going to brew up some ideas. We got. our guy AJ Barer. >> pulling up after this. >> Let's go. So pumped for Barnyard, man. Hey, that playdown was almost a.

disaster. It was almost a disaster. >> How? >> Oh, we were we were all there. Look, there was a there was a problem. I think. it was on the wristband, but we called. the play. Jackson is out at the time. He's going through his protocol to get. back out. The call ended up being like. the formation was backwards to what the. play call was. And so we end up like me. and Rasheed end up on the same side. I'm. like, "Dude, we're like, "No, you're on. the other side." But then formations. backwards. I see AJ running towards me. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I'm about to run.

the wrong route." So I changed it on the. fly. We almost HAD A. >> LET'S GO. >> WE GOT IT DONE. We got it done. >> Ball player. >> UNBELIEVABLE TEAMMATE DECISION MAKING. WHEN IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. I love it, man. Way to go. [laughter]. >> That's so epic, man. We got him up next. That's a [ __ ] banger. I was about to. ask you what should we ask him, but you. just told us everything. So, I can't. wait to tell him. I can't wait to. [ __ ]. >> I don't know if he'll I don't know if. he'll even be aware of it, but. >> he'll even know. He might not even know.

He might not even [laughter] know that I. was that I almost ran right into him. because I was about to run the wrong. route and at l at the snap I'm like, "Oh, I have to fix it.". >> That was a great play, too. Whoever. Whoever [ __ ] put that together, that. was an awesome [ __ ] play. Oh no. >> Oh no. >> We lost him. Coup just come back. Come. back. >> What an electric story though. >> That's epic. >> The Ethernet cord has been found. We are.

in business. >> Coupe. I believe you were talking about. the the play AJ Barer play and you're. saying he might not know, might not even. have a clue. >> Yeah. You know, he might not he might. not be aware of what was happening on. the outside and the consternation that. was happening between me and Rasheed. knowing that we were told the play was. being run the opposite direction, you. know. >> Yes. >> Yeah. But who knows? Maybe maybe he's so. dialed in out there that he was aware. and was going to make it happen, you. know.

>> So, did you go from like running like a. backside dagger to like a like a hitch? >> Uh, no. I went from running a a backside. basic to a take two post. Take two. You cleared it out for him. >> Yeah, but I don't know that the coverage. really did my job on that job. At the. end of the day, my I just need to get. out of the way. Like the coverage we got. the coverage we got was perfect. I just. had to get out of there. >> But it would have been bad if I was. running a B. If I was running a basic, there's a chance I'm just collisioning.

AJ coming out of the out of that wing. spot. Who knows? >> Just a ball player, man. Just a ball. player. >> Either way. >> That's right. Pays to have smart. players, man. >> That's where it pays to have guys that. work with the QBs at 6:00 a.m. and are. in the [ __ ] Blitz meeting. That's. right. >> Exactly. >> We had said if this ever gets called. backwards. Remember, you guys got to. [laughter]. >> All right, Coop. We're not going to keep. you any longer, man. We appreciate you. coming back on. >> Of course.

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>> Coming off the big game in San. Francisco, we wanted to give a big shout. out to Raising Canes and founder Todd. Grace for coming out to THE NEW HEIGHTS. PARTY. >> GOOD FOOD, good times, two things Canes. and Todd know a thing or two about. >> That's right. We had some chicken. fingers, some Cane sauce, all at the. party. And god dang, those things are. good. >> All right. Now, in this week, Kanees is. hosting a fan event. The Seahawks, Sam. Darnold, is going on a Super Bowl. quarterback shift at Canes. That's. right. He's going to be working at.

registers, serving up box combos in the. kitchen making Kane sauce. I didn't even. know they made that sauce. I thought. that sauce was already made. And uh. obviously, he's going to be celebrating. uh a championship with the fans. >> Well, this is going to be a fun. partnership, Kane does, and we can't. wait to see it. Shout out to Todd Graves. and shout out to Raising Kane's. delicious chicken finger meals. Well, that wraps up Cooper Cup's. interview. Let's move it on over to our. next guest, our next champion. >> Oh man, I can't wait for you guys to.

meet old Barnhouse. >> There he is. >> Cleveland boys. >> Travis is here. >> Come on, Jason. I never met you, bro. AJ, good to meet you. >> Good to meet you, AJ. Always good to. meet a fellow Northeast Ohio guy. >> Yes, sir. We stick together, dog. >> Just a [laughter] ball player. >> Play ball. >> Let's go. >> We just play ball. Rain, snow, >> parking lot, >> cement,

>> turf, [laughter]. >> Super Bowl. >> Pick the place. I'll be there. >> Let's [ __ ] go. And you got a tutty in. the game, >> man. Needed that. Needed that. >> You kidding me? >> Yeah, man. >> Needed that. >> Well done. Well done. All right, we're. going to do an intro and then we're. going to get right to it. Sound good, AJ? >> Sounds good. >> All right, 92enters. We are not done. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE WORLD CHAMPION. SEATTLE SEAHAWK FOR YOU. OUR NEXT GUEST. IS 6'6 TIGHT END FROM AURORA, OHIO. HE'S.

WON A NATIONAL TITLE AT THE UNIVERSITY. OF MICHIGAN AND NOW HE IS A SUPER BOWL. CHAMPION WITH THE SEATTLE SEAHAWKS. PERCENTAGE. PLEASE WELCOME TO THE SHOW. SWAG CHAMP AJ BARNYARD [screaming]. BAR. PLAYER. >> Getting the tutty in the Super Bowl, dude. Did you black out before you hit. the [ __ ] on them, dog? >> Man, you know how it is. Just Yes. Blacked out. [laughter] Slow motion. Everything just becomes slow motion and.

then just all the boys find you and it's. just like it's hard to collect yourself. after that and be like, "All right, like. let me finish this game and be ready to. go make another play.". >> Dude, it's so epic, dog. And it was a. big time touchdown. The only touchdown, man. >> We had Cooper on this thing talking. about how he heard the play might have. been flipped or there there might have. been just like a. >> a little bit of like a miscommunication. on where Yeah. Did you know that that. was going on? >> I just caught wind of that and like you.

got you know how [laughter] it is. I. heard I heard yada yada y scissors. I'm. like all right bet. I know the play. Like [laughter]. >> air this thing out. >> Baby, I I know where to line up. You. boys line up. >> Let's [laughter] get this damn play. called. >> Yeah. >> So [ __ ] good, dog. You came through. So it's a great [ __ ] play design, by. the way. [ __ ] awesome. I'm sure you. guys had ran the run to that where you. got you're helping out to the the.

outside zone to it and everything. I've. ran that play once or twice in my day. from the back field. Being from the back. field or running a corner, the hardest. part. >> is getting through the linebacker coming. to meet you and you just [ __ ] slid. him. >> just a little. Bro, if he [ __ ] wreck. like if he collisions you, that play is. a completely different play. >> No doubt. Walk us through it, man. You. saw him coming through the [ __ ] call. or what? >> Let's Hold on. We We're We got it on. tape. Let's play it and then Do you want.

to talk over it if you want, AJ? Is that. good? >> Let's hear. Bring out the broadcast in. the guy. Let's go, man. >> Down the tape. [laughter]. >> I'm about to have this at TEU next year. You're going to be on the [ __ ]. drawing board, dude. >> Facts. Facts. I was going to bust your. balls a little bit, Trav. I was going to. say, man, like people people don't say. that Trav blocks. Trav does block for. sure, but some of the DNS be working. with Trav a little bit. Like I don't. know what what [laughter] WE GOT TO DO, [screaming] BUT they show love a little. bit. >> Good union work. You already know.

>> We [laughter] good. Good. Good. Good. Good. >> Yeah. You good? All right. All right. All right. >> But uh so we run out we run the [ __ ] out. of outside zone. This is Zoro concept, but I'm sure you guys know Zoro. >> Yeah. And like this combination is two. tight ends, Zoro blocking and end big to. like usually the corner, the safety. who's down, who's this guy who's down. next to the linebacker. >> Yep. >> So obviously we're going two for two. there. We've ran the hell out of it. And. like Trav said pre- snap like I'm.

looking over there. I guess the. formation was messed up and I'm trying. to get a peak like all right, who am I. going to have to navigate here to get. out? Um, and again, like it's like I. feel like the route is what it is on the. paper, but it's like all right, like how. can I get out and just get free. >> so yeah, if you run it, >> just navigated out of there. And as soon. as I seen Coupe clear, I was just off. his hip. >> and then could have been a little bit. smoother, but.

>> could have been smoother. What are you. talking about? He got a touchdown in the. Super Bowl. >> No, bro. Are you kidding me? >> No. No. No. For sure. For sure. Maybe. could have stayed up, but. >> get out of here. I'm just like running. Bro, when you got through second level. clean, were you like, I'm open. I'm. open. I'm open. Bro, the [ __ ] like. the way the mind works is just like. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like, where's this ball. at? I'm trying to find it. Track it. [laughter]. >> I know it's coming. >> And you know how it is, too? Like, I'm. looking for the quarterback.

>> Yeah. >> I'm trying to find the quarterback's. eyes and like where he's at in the. pocket. You see it in the air, the. trajectory of it. Finally, like once you. locate the quarterback and then it's. just like, "All right, let me go glue. this.". >> There we go, baby. >> And then boom, the wheel stops. >> Slow motion. Yeah. But I feel like you. live those moments out before they. happen. Like. >> the only reason I wanted to play this. back is you guys do such a good job of. selling this. The backers actually run. through, right? >> Yeah. >> And that's why I want to give uh Darnold. some props here. He stands there and.

delivers this with He knows he's about. to get crushed. >> Oh yeah. linebacker is coming down right. on top of him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, it's like right in front of. him. Doesn't bat an eye. Knows that. you're going to be there. >> Sammy's a dog, man. >> Just well done by both of you guys. >> Sammy's a dog. Physical cat, too. Played. linebacker in high school. So, if you're. playing ball for this Seahawks, you. better be able to to lower some pads. >> You just spoke to Jason Soul when you. said he played linebacker in high. school. >> Damn straight. Damn straight. >> Oh, yeah.

>> Well, uh, how you feeling, bud? Super. Bowl champion. >> Feeling really good. Feeling really. good. Uh, our team's a little like we. got some vets on the team on our. offense. >> I'm definitely a young cat. >> Swag champ though, baby. You already. know. You bring the juice. >> Yes, sir. >> You bring the juice for the old cats, dog. You already know. >> You got to Somebody's got to do it. >> Somebody's got to do it. I'm going to. enjoy it for sure. But quite honestly, I'm just trying to take it all in. >> Dude, I'm so happy for you. Have you. slept yet?

>> Yeah, bro. After the game, I was. honestly just with the fam. Like we were. in San Jose, like way outside the city. Um, so we got after a little bit, but. like you guys know how it is too. Like. the peak is that confetti falling down? Like is the club in San Jose going to do. it for me after that? Like. probably not. Probably not. But. eventually I'm going to celebrate in a. in a in the right way. >> Well, you better be. You're got a parade. tomorrow, right? >> For sure. You geared up.

>> You know what you're wearing? I might. channel my inner Jason on the mic. >> Let's go, >> baby. Can't wait to hear this. >> Hell yeah. It's going to be awesome. >> Have you thought about what you're going. to say if you're going to get on the. mic? >> No. >> Let's let it go. >> I'm one of the guys, too, like Coupe. Let's get Coupe on the mic. Let's get. Sammy on the mic. I'll vibe with the. crowd. I'm gonna live life and just. enjoy the moment and see where it takes. me. >> Are you Are you more of a a a beer or. liquor guy? What are we going with? beer. for sure.

>> If I could tell you one advice, >> man, Midwest beer. >> If I could give you one bit of advice, >> dude, if you stick with the light beer, you're going to be good, right? The. moment you start pouring the shots down, everybody's, "Oh, we want to do Yeah. No, you don't want that. >> You're going to be bad. You got It's a. marathon.". >> Yeah. No doubt. You can, you know, when. the beers are uh when the beers are. starting to kick. >> Yes. >> And uh the liquor, >> dude. >> The liquor will hit you out of nowhere. >> Sneaks up on you. Yeah. [laughter]. give you that right hook. >> for sure.

>> This guy's won a title before. How does. this feel compared to to when you won it. at Michigan? >> I just feel like when you have a team. like the ingredients are there. Like. y'all have won championships before. Like there's a lot of similarities. between championship teams and I felt. that with this team and I'm a little bit. spoiled cuz like I've had the confetti. and reached the pinnacle at that level. Obviously it's different. Um, but to. have that experience just two short. years ago, >> um, >> it's been incredible. And obviously like.

the Super Bowl is a whole another level, but like quite frankly, I feel like the. vibe that you get with this team is like. we just kind of expected to be here and. now it's happened and it's like, holy. [ __ ] like. >> we did it, >> you know? So, I think uh it's just going. to continue to settle in and be better. and better. But, you know, it we're. going to enjoy it and then [ __ ] next. year is going to roll around and we'll. have a target on our back. That's how it. goes, baby. >> Well, you'll definitely have the target. on your back, but that's what you want. It's it's it's good to have the target. on your back. >> Yeah, >> it's an honor to have the target on your.

back, man. It's the best [ __ ] ever. >> Facts, bro. Facts. >> Well, in your first year, do you have a. you have a welcome to the NFL moment? I. mean, this is winning the Super Bowl. That's a hell of a welcome. >> All right. [laughter]. >> I've been um saving this story for a. great podcast AND. >> a big hit here. Bless us. Please hit. here and I gota look at my guy Rich here. because. >> I've been saving this one and we'll see.

where it goes. But okay, so. >> Cooper Cup mentioned that like I'm like. uh you know just like you never know. what you're going to get, >> of course. >> And Coupe had mentioned in the media. this story about me being Captain Hook, >> which. so many different directions. [laughter]. so many different directions. >> But if you know me, like I'mma have fun. always, but like I'mma always be in. control. And that's besides the point, but but y'all will figure that out. But.

anyway. >> Okay. All right. >> Week six, Jaguars away. >> Yes. Yes. >> Pull up to the stadium. Normal routine. Y'all know how it is. Like got to go to. the bathroom before the game. And you. know that bathroom's. >> got to. And you know that bathroom is. going to be a nightmare the longer you. wait. >> Oh, [laughter] for sure. >> In multiple ways. >> So I get up in there. I get up in there. I'm one of the first people to get in. the locker room. I'm like, "Bet. I'm. going to go do my thing. Whatever.". >> Yeah, man.

>> Do my thing, dude. AJ, you're hilarious. [laughter]. >> Get down to the bathroom. Big big guy. Big guy. Y'all know how it is in the. stall. I go to like lean forward and sit. back. crack my head on this HOOK [snorts]. >> THAT'S LIKE [screaming] ON THE BACK OF. THIS WALL, BRO. >> YEAH. >> And it's one of those moments where like. you you kick your dresser like something. in the house and you're like, "Mother, like what?" You know what I'm saying? Like. >> Yeah. I [screaming] sit down.

>> I sit down. Blood rushing down my my. head. [laughter]. >> NO. >> I'M LIKE, "YO." SO, I get up, don't do. my business. I get up and like my. teammates know me. I'm like like [ __ ]. Where's the training room? Like the. [ __ ] I just split my head open, bro. >> I'm like looking around the training. room, bro. Finally make the training. room. I get up in there. >> They're obviously like, "Bro, what just. happened?". >> And I'm like trying to elaborate to.

them. I'm trying to get ready for the. game. There's blood rushing down my. face. The next thing they hit me with. is, "We're going to have to cut your. hair.". >> I'm like, >> "NOT the not the lettuce, bro. Anything. but the. anything but the lettuce. >> I just got it trimmed. Are you kidding. me? >> Yeah. Yeah. They they they cut out this. little patch, which I still lowkey have. a little bald spot. >> No stitches. Thank god. Thank god no. stitches. We put a piece of gauze in it. >> I wear a I wear a skull cap.

>> I go back to that same stall. >> Finish my business [laughter] in that. stall just to let that stall know it's. not going to have power over me. And. [laughter] then assert my dominance. >> You had to let that stall know who the. [ __ ]. >> Had to let her know. >> Captain Hook had to let the stall know. the Barnard was there and then uh went. out, won the game. Had my season high and. receiving yards basically off one catch. that.

>> and we won the game and I cracked my. head open and that's it. >> Captain Hook. >> CAPTAIN HOOK. THERE WE GO, BABY. >> CRAZY. That's so crazy, dog. >> But y'all can only imagine like just. getting in that frame of mind for the. game and next thing you know, you just. cut your head open and just blood. I was. like, bro, like. >> what are we doing? So, it was epic. >> I've only known one story from that. In. college, we had a guy, I won't say his. name, everybody from the university will. know him, but he would bash his head.

through the drywall right before the. game. We'd all assimilate in this like. [laughter] one area. He. >> one guy. >> Yeah. and he would bang it and there. were just wall holes in all the walls. Well, we go we go. >> we go to the uh the bowl game in CA in. Canada, the International Bowl and my my. guy goes to do it again and he hits a. stud AND GUESSES THE TIE YOUR HEAD. >> NO, >> he couldn't play. COULDN'T PLAY IN THE. GAME. >> He didn't [crying] play.

>> Couldn't play. >> Damn, >> dude. >> I figured that that would be the guy. that' be like, "Hey, I'm still playing.". But not. >> I think he wanted to. They didn't let. him. >> Of course he definitely wanted to. He. definitely wanted to. Everyone knows. that guy. >> Yeah, exactly. >> You need one of them on the team. >> And if you're from Cleveland, you may or. may not have been that guy. I've been. there. Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. Exactly. There you go. >> I've been there before. I've been there. >> All right. One more. One more before we. let you go. We got to ask about this. quote. Blocking for Kenneth Walker. All. right. Grind meat, carry water. We get.

it done in the trenches, baby. >> All right. Damn, >> that's a [ __ ] banger right there. >> Where did this come from? This sounds. like something out of like Keanu Reeves. This sounds like something like I would. have heard in like the replacements or. something like that, >> bro. Like you guys said, like sometimes. the boys need a little pick me up on. offense. >> I play tight end. I'm next to the O. line. Like I kind of got my cred for. being a blocker even though you got. dude, you know. H Oh yeah. I get after. in the trenches and I love my O line. I. love running the rock and I I play to. Michigan and we run the piss out of the.

ball. >> Yeah. And when you're wearing on a team, you're grinding freaking meat. Uh when. it comes down to the the end of the. game, you need a four-minute drill. Grind meat. So it just became like some. of the guys at first, you know how some. of the guys are, I'm like, man, let's. grind this meat. Grind meat, carry. water. So it just became [laughter] a. thing and like the O line loved it. >> For 60 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE, WE'RE ABOUT. TO [ __ ] grind this goddamn meat, goddamn it, for the [ __ ] Super Bowl. >> I love it. We're about to grind meat and.

just run the piss out of the bowl and. just bro like Yeah. So that's what it. became and I feel like everyone knows. the the saying like chop wood carry. water. So it just became grind meat. carry water and uh that's just the. mentality that the Hawks play with. Like. we we play bully ball. We want to get. after in the trenches and. >> that's what it is. >> [ __ ] it. I love it. I'm stealing it too. I love it. Grind me. >> Oh yeah. Grind meat, dude. AJ, not. enough time with your dog, but we're. going to let you go, bro. I know you got. some celebrating to do, bro. It's so.

such a [ __ ] honor to be able to get. you on the pod. You already know. Northeast Ohio ball player, bro. Since I. met you, I knew you were going to. [ __ ] keep doing great things, man. So. happy for you, bro. >> I appreciate that, >> bro. We got to we got to tap in. I just. want to pick your brain on some on some. ball and obviously, you know, >> talk talk ball and all that. So, great. to meet you, too, Jason. Appreciate you. guys having me on here, man. It's been. an honor and got a lot of love for you. guys, man. >> Honor's all ours. Congratulations, brother. Appreciate you guys. >> Captain Hook, >> ladies and gentlemen, man.

>> Yes, SIR. >> ALL RIGHTY. THANK you to Cooper Cup and. AJ Barner. Let's hit on some non. football Super Bowl stuff. How about. that, Trev? >> I just [ __ ] love those dudes, man. Both of them A1 people, ball players. God damn, that's got to be a fun [ __ ]. team to be on right now. >> I can't wait to see the parade tomorrow. >> Oh, it's going to be epic. >> We got out of the house San Francisco at. the Super Bowl this week. >> Yes, we did. >> What was the best party? >> The [ __ ] New Heights party. It was. the It was the best, dude. And I may be. biased because New Heights is New. Heights, but we had everybody that I.

could have ever wanted to come through. We got to play some [ __ ] arcade. games. I never get around arcade games. enough. Like, I left that play. I left. that party being like, "Man, I wish I. could just play a few more games." Like, why did they have to just end the night. like that? >> You're right. Everybody that was there, there were so many incredible people. Like I don't even want to start listing. them just cuz it's like where do you. stop and where do you start? But. >> uh it was it was star-studded. It was a.

ton of people that helped put the show. on. Shout out to everyone in the New. Heights production and with Wondery and. Amazon and it was just a it was awesome. on every single level and we had a. blast. >> Oh, best place you chug a beer, dude. You were all over the place. Listen, I. like going to places whenever we get. into these cities and checking things. out and getting a good feel and doing. the tourist thing and had an idea to I'm. going to drink a beer at all these. places like that. I've always wanted to. visit and be at and have a beer at. So, you know, we avoided getting any fines.

for open containers because I just drink. them as fast as possible before the cops. can show up and uh then it's, you know, so we're just having a good time. >> All right. Now, >> this jacket that I wore to the night's. party is from a store called Love on. Hate. Gotta shout them out over in the. district of San Francisco. >> where the hippie movement basically. started with the. >> really Janice Joplin. Yeah, man. A lot. of freaking awesome. >> Oh, yeah, man. Pretty cool. It's a. tie-dye shop. Apparently, we'll always. be a tie-dye shop. >> I love some good tie-dye, man. That. thing is epic.

>> San Francisco was an awesome city. Probably drank about 60 to 70 beers. throughout the whole week. So, [laughter] going to recharge it. Had a. blast. Did you DJ anywhere? No, I'm not. I'm not a DJ quite yet, but I am a I am. a like proud supporter of DJs. everywhere. I am a big big music guy and. I'll go everywhere. I saw two of my. favorites over in Loud Luxury at the. tight ends of Friends party with George. and Claire and hung out with the Chain. Smokers. Saw my guy Disco Lines. >> Did you see Shabuzzi? >> I did. I dapped up Shabuzzi.

>> He came over to the hotel. I was like, I. was just with your brother. I'm like, oh, okay. Dope. [laughter]. So, so it was like a drive by dap up, man. Love you. You're the best. And kept. it moving, man. But Shabuzzi is [ __ ]. awesome, dude. Yeah, it was it I felt. like that was that's 90% of my. conversations at the Super Bowl. I never. get a [ __ ] good like hang with. anybody. Even if I've known you my. entire life, it's always just like a. quick like, >> how are things? >> Well, there's Yeah, >> great. We got to catch up. I I gotta.

keep moving. >> There's a lot of Yeah. Yeah. >> But it was uh it was awesome to see. them. And um I ended up catching. Stapleton live. Man, that was the. coolest performance I think I've ever. seen at a Super Bowl. Seeing Stapleton. in person in a venue like that, it was. very I won't I don't want to say it was. intimate, but the whoever's event that. was, which I just showed up because it. was Chris Stton, but whoever's event. that was was [ __ ] they they played it. perfectly. Stapleton went up there and.

[ __ ] rocked the stage as he always. does and it was just such a vibe, man. >> Kylie and I have been to a number of. Stapleton shows at this point. I mean, he does not disappoint in any venue, but. there is something we saw him last. year's Super Bowl and it was a similar. environment where it's not like small. small, but there's something about it. where it's like intimate. He's like. right there and he's just got so much. character and feel to his voice and the. songs. Well, we got the interview coming. up with him that we that we got that. we'll be releasing at a later date. But. awesome. >> Uh Chris is the man. Best show I've ever.

been to still like love going to his. shows. Shout out to Stapleton. Shout out. to San Francisco. Awesome. Did a great. job hosting that Super Bowl. >> It's the second time I've been to San. Fran for a Super Bowl, man. And both of. them were so much fun, man. >> The only negative is like how far the. stadium is away from the San Francisco. like city area. like you're driving to. go to it, but most of the stuff. throughout the week is centrally located. in San Fran, which isn't that bad. >> We grew up in a in a era of like fandom, and Cleveland did this to us. Cleveland.

had all sporting events in one located. area. The Gateway District in Cleveland. was that it was the you had the Tribe, you had Jacobs Field, you had Gundena, you had. >> Gundarina, >> you know what I mean? They kept it all. downtown right there. And it was just it. was it made it easy and it made so much. sense in our minds. The owners, they. they get so much more opportunity. getting to the outskirts of the city and. it just it yep it's hard to argue with.

those opportunities. Um and I'm and. we're dealing with it right now in. Kansas City. like we're we're going over. to Kansas. But at the same time, it's. like if you look at that deal in terms. of a owner, like that's one of the. greatest opportunities you could ever. get as an owner. And I think it's going. to be unbelievable once it's finally set. in stone, but it is going to be kind of. heartbreaking knowing that the Chiefs. are going to move away from Arrowhead. and that that that side of like the. Missouri side of Kansas City. And it's.

just it's. >> Yeah. It's just a part of the old, you. know, professional sports. You know, it. is a business at the end of the day. And. I think um a lot of uh circling back to. the San Franand deal, man, it was still. awesome to be around the city of San. Francisco, feel the culture, feel the. excitement that was going on all week. inside that city. Um and then it's still. a beautiful stadium that uh that they. played the Super Bowl at. Well, listen. I I hear what you're saying and if I was. an owner, I might feel differently, but.

[ __ ] that. Keep those stadiums in the. cities. I know you guys want to make all. your money and you want to have your. shows and you want to do all this stuff. >> I hear you, man. >> The fans pay a lot of the money for you. guys to have all these things and for. the NFL to exist. And I just I don't. like the stadiums moving. I don't like. that Cleveland's moving out of. Cleveland. I don't like that. Well, the. Airhead's already outside of Airhead, so. I don't really care that much whether. it's in Missouri or Kansas. Um, but like. I don't know, man. These these cities, there's something awesome about going.

downtown into the heart of Cleveland to. go see a Browns game. And I hear you. >> They could figure out a way to build a. new stadium downtown. Like you could. build a big beautiful stadium right down. there. And you can do the same thing in. Kansas City. You could do the same thing. in all these places and then it wouldn't. be an hour and a half drive out there. I. get that these owners want to make. money. >> Yeah. >> But at the same time, I don't know why I. don't like it. I don't like it. >> I hear you, dude. I hear you. We're both. on the same train in that regard. It's. just kind of how we're built, man. >> Once again, Bold Topics is brought to. you by Pepsi. Let's move on to some.

Stamps of the Week. Stamps of the week. is brought to you by Raising Canes. >> Yeah, buddy. >> Our friends over at Raising Canes. through a bunch of [ __ ] parties. >> I met Todd Graves for the first time. >> Nice. You actually got to say what's up. to him? >> He's at the New Heights Party. >> Nice, man. >> I don't need to read any other nominee. I know where I'm going. Uh, stamp of the. week goes to Jeff Stoutland. Listen, Jeff Stoutland um resigned from his post. with the Philadelphia Eagles this past. week, you know, after 13 years as the. offensive line coach. I mean, just.

coached a ton of incredible players. Jason Peters, Todd Haramman's, Evan. Matthysse, um myself, Lane Johnson, Jordan Mada turning from a rugby player. into an allp pro left tackle. Got Cam. Jurgens do a Pro Bowl last year. Landon. Dickerson do some Pro Bowls. Isaac. Semalu like he's just he he's done such. an incredible job within the. Philadelphia Eagles organization and. he's been such a mainstay throughout. multiple head coaches at this point. You. know, it just sucks to see him go.

selfishly as an Eagles fan and as. somebody who played with them and. somebody that I still goes to the, you. know, still goes to the facility. I. still go to Novaare on a regular basis. and I'm not going to be able to see. Stout anymore. And that just, you know, it's frustrating for me. Uh, and I think. frustrating for a lot of people in that. building because he was he was a. personality that was, you know, a lot of. people gravitated towards. And, you. know, this is the reality of the. business. Um, coach, I love you. I I. don't know what's next, but whatever it.

is, whether it's coaching or whatever, I. know you're going to be great at it as. you always are. Um, and, you know, I get. that the team is trying to move forward. and really embrace this new system and, you know, really redesign what this. offense is. I wish Stout could have been. a part of that, but sometimes it doesn't. work out that way. And um. anyways, love you coach. Couldn't be. more happy to have been coached by and. 27 Pro Bowlman were with Stout over that. 13 years.

>> Wild. >> You already know, man. We We got so much. respect for him. And I He's one of those. guys that you meet in cross in crossing. just because you were playing for him. and or I got to meet in crossing just. because you were playing for him. And. he's one of those guys that you would. [ __ ] just know you'd love playing. for, man. And it's across the board. Anybody that runs into him knows you're. going to get everything this guy has. And on top of that, he's going to be. real about it. And and we're going to. get [ __ ] done. One of the best ball. coaches that that I've known from afar. And uh couldn't be uh couldn't be more.

proud to say congrats on on, you know, everything that your career has gotten. to this point. Coach Stop, man. We uh we. love you over there. And at the same. time, if you ever want to come on a. podcast and talk some ball with some old. hasbins, man, come on over, dude. [laughter]. >> Always welcome. We love that. >> Always. >> All righty. What else do we want to get. into? >> Who do I want to give a shout out to? The quarterback of the Super Bowl, Sammy. Darnold. Man, you get my [ __ ] stamp. of the week, stamp of the year, man.

>> We're so [ __ ] happy for you, man. And. um the world is happy for you. You've. weathered the storm perfectly to where. everybody's [ __ ] rooting for you. And. I'm so [ __ ] I'm so just, you know, ecstatic for you, dog. Stamp of the week. because you [ __ ] fought through the. [ __ ] and you're the [ __ ] crown. champion, man. You're at the top of the. [ __ ] mountain. Uh, couldn't be. happier for you, man. And that wraps up. stamp of the week brought to you by. Raising Canes. Get to your Raising. Canes. Enjoy some chicken and some.

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North American Insurance Company and. affiliates in Northbrook, Illinois. Let's get to the Hall of Fame portion of. today's show. That's right, first ballot. hall of famer, Drew Brees. We had a. chance to talk to him over in San. Francisco and it did not disappoint. Get. ready. Oh, quick shout out to Chase. Daniel. Sorry in advance. It was not us. Our guest today is a former walk-on. quarterback from Purdue. He is a. five-time allpro, 13 TIME PRO BOWLER, TWO-TIME NFL OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE. YEAR, NFL COMEBACK PLAYER OF THE YEAR, THE SECOND MOST PASSING YARDS IN NFL.

HISTORY, SUPER BOWL CHAMPION, SUPER BOWL. MVP, AND also now officially a first. ballot hall of famer. PLEASE WELCOME. DREW BREES. [cheering]. I mean, >> cheers to that, baby. [laughter]. >> Drew, you're the man, brother. Thank you. so much for coming on. >> Thank you. I guess we got to start with. the Hall of Fame. It just happened. >> Yeah, it's fresh. >> Dan Fouch, that's how you found out. >> Yeah. Yeah, he that that knock came. about three weeks ago. It was a great. setup. >> Supercharger himself. >> I know. So, I I share a birthday with my.

oldest son, Bon. So, he's born on my. 30th birthday. So, we we we had a. birthday weekend. It's always Martin. Luther King weekend. So, really the. weekend's about him just doing whatever. he wants to do. So, then Monday rolls. around and my daughter who's 11 is like. the light of my life. Just says, "Dad, I. want to take you out to eat." I'm like, "Oh, nice. Oh, this is the greatest. So, my wife, my daughter, they're ready to. go. 5:00, be ready. We're going to take. you out to eat. So, I'm ready. And the. boys are messing around doing something. upstairs. I'm like, "Boys, let's go.". You know, Ryland wants to take dad out. to eat. Let's go. And they're messing.

around. So, now I'm starting to get a. little fired up. I'm like, "Yo, Ryland. said 5:00. We're leaving the house." I'm. like about to get in the car and leave. and leave them all, [laughter] right? >> And then all of a sudden, here's the. knock at the door. And I'm a little I'm. like, "Who's knocking at the door now? We're trying to leave. You know, my. daughter set this up. I just want this. to be special for her. And then there's. Mr. Supercharger Dan Fel himself in the. gold jacket incredible. >> welcoming me into the Hall of Fame. So. it was they had me. It was a good setup. >> What What happens when you feel that? Like do you like think about your.

career? Like you think about like I. don't it's it's got to be crazy in that. moment, right? >> Yeah, it was uh like I said like my mind. was totally elsewhere. So, it was such a. it was such a shock and I mean obviously. cameras, you know, in NFL films and. everything too and and then all of a. sudden it is it's the rush of emotion. and um just thinking about getting to. that moment and just everything that's. transpired and and I immediately look at. my family and I mean honestly I I played. so much longer than I ever thought I. would and in many cases I did it because. I wanted my kids to remember what dad.

did. >> So cool man. >> And then I'm looking at them and you. know I see their eyes welling up and. just you know lost it. Awesome, brother. So cool. >> Beautiful family. Walk on to Hall of. Famer, brother. Not Not many can say. that, dog. I only know one that may have. a chance. >> You shut up. [laughter]. >> So, what's the process now? Have you. already thought about like what picture. you're going to use for your bust? Like, are you Who's going to introduce you? >> I know who's going to introduce me, but.

I can't say because I I want to make. special. But, uh, yeah. >> Yeah. It's uh, you start thinking about. those. I mean, literally each moment. since then has has gotten me a little. closer to reality. You know, at that. time, it's still so surreal and and you. just want to pinch yourself and you're. not sure if if this is just a dream. >> Um, but I'd say. >> yesterday before they announced it at. honors, >> uh, couple hours before all our class of. Hall of Famers, you know, got into a. room. So, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke, Adam, Yeah. Roger. I mean, they're all Trav,

you got to tell we're [laughter] sitting. there. We got a front row seat to the. whole thing. Yeah. >> And we're we're seeing everybody come. out. You're the last one. He taps me on. the arm. He's like, "Dude, this is a. great class." I'm like, "Yeah, Jason, it's the Hall of Fame." [laughter]. >> Did you expect to not know anyone they. were saying? >> But how many first ballot guys? Like, I. don't know. It does feel like a special. class. >> I would say this. I I I don't know the. last time you actually went and looked. at each class of Hall of Famers since. they started doing this, >> but literally every class it it's almost.

like each one is like, "Whoa, that was a. great class. WA. Like that was a great I. mean every one of them it it just makes. you realize just how elite it is. And. and I think the the feeling last night. after we were called onto the stage and. then all the Hall of Famers start. metriculating out of the crowd and. coming up on stage and I mean it's like. this indoctrination like welcome. >> Yeah. >> I mean it's like wow man. >> So do you go in I know you retire as a. certain franchise usually. Do you go. into the Hall of Fame as a specific one.

>> organization? >> Yeah. Oh, I mean it's Saints obviously. >> THAT WAS the one thing that was so. nothing against fouls, but that was a. little thing that was surprising to me. Is there like a personal connection. there? Like why Chargers and not like a. former Saint? >> So he was one of the first guys that I. spoke with when I was drafted was Dan. Fouts. Obviously his legendary status. >> Did he tell you to just throw to the. biggest guy on the field or what? He had. senior exactly. [laughter]. >> He had like the beginning of like this.

era of tight end. Oh man, Charlie Joiner. and Chandler and um they were they were. some dudes, you know. He was he's been. great to me um ever since I signed, you. know, first signed in in the league and. um and obviously a Charger legend. Ironically, that Corell offense was one. that we ran when I was first in uh in. San Diego. So, there was a connection. there, too. So, that was that was pretty. unique. >> Giving you all the ins and outs, man. That's awesome, dog. >> You're going in with a division rival, Luke Keequley. Did he give you as many. headaches as he did to me trying to.

figure he would calling out our plays. like I'm like what are you stealing. this? How are you this good at knowing. what we're about to do? >> I'll be honest. I I I think again and. you never know how the class is going to. shake out but but especially Larry. Fitzgerald and Luke Keatley. Like I've. always had a real special bond with. Larry. >> He's the best. They would. >> funny cuz you know you see each other. from afar. I know he was never going to. get out of Arizona and I was certainly. never going to leave New Orleans. Only. time we had a chance to play together. was in Pro Bowls. I mean, how awesome. are Pro Bowls? You have a chance to be. with these guys that you just have so. much respect for. >> I sure remember you calling out the mic.

at one of my Pro Bowls. I'm [laughter]. Drew Brees. Yeah, >> you're wired, man. I only know one way to win, too, right? Yeah, [laughter] I know. Like, where. just take it easy, man. I got I got you. got, [laughter] you know, Lee Ray Lee, let's let's go over here. >> Hey, we'll get you a double on Aaron. Donald over here real quick. Um, [laughter] no, that was so like my first. Pro Bowl touchdown pass was Larry. Fitzgerald. like we we so we had we've. had a bond our whole career and really. leaned on each other for a lot of things. and then honestly Luke Keequley I.

>> best defensive player I've ever ever. played against and it was in the. division obviously and like so when I. truly say like an iron sharpens iron. guys that just make you better like. because you have to be like you knew. going into that game like I have to be. my absolute best against this dude and. so he just brought out the best in me. and us. >> and so I really appreciate that that. about him such an unbelievable. competitor but like off the field like. the most genuine dude. Like I've spent. more time with him over the last 24. hours. Cincinnati like dude players man.

or somethingincinnat. >> I like my Ohio ball players and my my. Texas gunslinger. You already know how. it go. >> Texas Capital Ranchers. [laughter]. >> The biggest surprise with Larry. Fitzgerald to me was that he found a. pair of corduroy pants that fit him. I. mean that thing that he [laughter] is. thick on the bottom half now. I guarantee you he can move to the tight. end room right now and still go for. [ __ ] [laughter]. thousand yards. Solid genetics. touchdown. Exactly. Solid genetics. >> No, Larry's the man. What I still. remember my first college experience was.

uh Larry Fitzgerald uh playing Notre. Dame over in Pit, man. >> Yeah. Making freakish catches. >> Watching him in like uh just like Routes. on Air or Pack and Go and I'm just. sitting there. I'm like, man, this dude. is the [ __ ] man. It was before you. could tell it was just like, man, this. dude's [ __ ] got it. >> But even honestly, the the play that I. remember the most from his career, which. is stupid that he probably will hate. that I say this, >> the James Harrison interception in the.

Super Bowl. >> Yes. Yes. >> He is like completely out of the play. >> running out of bounds like over woods. and tree trunks and doing anything he. can to try and make this tackle. And I'm. just like, dude, that's amaz like that. is the effort and like what makes. somebody different. Like who who is. going to give that amount of effort and. not just like a special teams guy who's. trying has to kind of do that to survive. a Hall of Fame level like best receiver. of all time. >> I actually when when the class was. announced, I started just reflecting on. all the plays that I can remember all.

these guys making. Obviously that Super. Bowl stood out and like we've all had. those moments where look, you're in a. game like that, there's a ton of. exceptional players on the field. Yes. But then there's those times where like. one just rises above the rest and you're. just like for this entire game that is. the best player on the field. That that. game was was was a moment like that. where you like that play and then the. one where they took the lead at the end. before the Steelers went down. It's like. two man and he beats the corner inside. on like just a little delay route,

splits the safeties and gone. You're. like. >> this dude is the best player on the. field. It felt like he had. >> he was still young in his career. I. mean, it was only like year five maybe, right? 08, something like that. Yeah, he. was young. >> What a guy, man. >> So, we did have a potential Hall of. Famer come out of RETIREMENT THIS YEAR. >> WAS THERE WAS there a call when Boon. Knicks went down? >> You have had to. >> I would say I've I've had some. CONVERSATIONS. [screaming]. >> AND and [laughter] I've had some. moments. >> I've had some moments. Um I would say.

this like my body feels great. My mind. sharp as ever. >> Yeah. shoulder, wrist, not having it. And like to the point. where there was a moment this year where. literally I was drinking a tequila and. something happened where I thought there. might be a chance I would play that week. and I literally switched to water and I. started thinking about going to bed. early and getting up the next day and. like getting my body nice and loose and. going out and throwing to see if I could. even pull it off.

>> Yeah. And boy, I was like so mentally. right and got up, got the body loose, went out there, grabbed the ball, threw. a couple. My my 13-year-old son was. catching for me. >> Let's go. >> And it was just like. not there. I would I would have been. able to like break that glass 10 10 ft. away. [laughter]. >> You got to take the tor off first. You. found the Yeah. Yeah. >> The good stuff is not in the system. The. good stuff is not in the system. But no, I it's honestly Look, >> I would I I really think I'd still be.

playing if if I if the shoulder and the. wrist wouldn't have wouldn't have. started to let me down. >> Sure. >> Um I just I started to lose quite a bit. of pop, you know, and it's one of those. things where and you know where to go. with the ball, but can I get it from. point A to point B and the amount of. time that needs to get there in order to. be effective and unfortunately. >> [ __ ] yeah. >> that left, >> man. Oh man. Um dude, you played with. some [ __ ] legends in the tight end. room. Obviously, Antonio, Jimmy Graham, the years that I was turning into a. tight end in college were you and Jimmy.

just going absolutely nuts, man. And. that really changed th those years with. like Gates, Jimmy being those basketball. guys and like really being able to be. that mismatch. Then you obviously Granky. throwing to the fold. Do you feel that. Jimmy I don't know, I don't want to say. this the wrong way. I feel like he's. never gotten the true respect. that he deserves at the tight end. position. Like I want to give Jimmy some.

love because what he's done to change. the game, I don't think is talked about. enough. >> Okay, >> I agree. >> And thousand%. Jimmy was so rare. I. mean, he was a guy who played four years. of basketball in Miami, right? Had a. fifth year of eligibility and it was. just like, ah, you know, I played a. little high school football. I'll go out. here, see if I can, you know, run some. red zone fades, you know, which. [laughter] I think he caught 11 balls, seven tutties his senior, fifth year, senior year. >> And that and and at that point, look, I. I credit I credit Shawn. I credit our. scouting department. Like those guys had.

a knack for seeing like some raw talent. and but even seeing through that to like. this guy once we polish him up and like. get him in this system and he's going to. be exceptional. So we brought Jimmy in. as a third round pick in 2011. We had. >> Shocki be shocking. >> That was Tra, >> dude. You already know, man. You want to. talk about attitude, man. >> Yeah. And we were doing some interesting. things for Shock that that honestly like. we did with Gates um in in San Diego, but it was kind of like this at any time. just displace them, split them out to.

the single receiver side. We had this. whole system of signals, you know, we. try to get we try to do it in man. situations so we got some favorable. matchup and then we just go to town over. here, right? >> Yeah. I can I can relate. >> That became Jimmy's thing. But man, Jimmy was just a gazelle. He was just. kind of he was a deer at first. It was. like man he could run but he had sink in. his hips and no he yeah yeah he had an. edge. >> He had something to prove like chip on. his shoulder big time. >> But it was it was a great first year. opportunity for him cuz Shocki was the. guy and then Jimmy was kind of like the.

bring him in in certain situations and. just bring him along. Oh yeah. And by. the time 2011 came around it was like he. was ready and then that was his breakout. year. They're literally him and Grock, >> bro. You already know that. >> going into that last season though, that. last game we were playing Carolina. I. can't remember who New England was. playing, but they were fighting for I. think it was uh most yards by a tight. end. >> and touchdowns. I think they both ended. up with over 15 that year. Crazy. >> But literally like from drive to drive. it was I'd come over the side and be. like, "Where's Gro?" Like [laughter]. like, "Oh, he's 10 yards ahead. Okay, well let's run this high corner to.

Jimmy, right?" That's a good teammate. right there. Boom. Boom. Unfortunately, our game ended first so wrong got the. record, but literally it was one of. those like. >> I wonder if they were doing the same. thing. >> Oh, totally. You know, they're keeping. track for sure. [laughter]. >> That's the best, man. >> Um, honestly, the the the most. unfortunate thing and literally when I. say like Jimmy and I cried on the phone. together when we traded him, >> cried on the phone together. >> Um, he was with us for 5 years and could. you imagine what five more years would. have been like, right? you know, at at a. point where we were just so like the.

chemistry was so strong, right? >> You guys created a whole new play. Like. there was like the goal line fade and. then there was the Jimmy Graham just. [ __ ] throw it to him. This dude would. literally just go and post up like in. the paint. >> and it was it was like it was a fade, but it wasn't a fade. It was more just. like a jump ball. >> We had five different back shoulders. >> That's crazy. It's crazy. >> It was the DB's here back shoulder or. I'm just going to stand in front of them. and you throw it up. There's the bottom. line is if you're 67 270 there is nobody.

a dude could be standing right next to. you there's still a place I can throw. the ball to you. way different than that 270. >> This does bring up something to me that. I do want to I have never understood why. like why doesn't every team just have. one guy that's a monster that is a. guaranteed touchdown? Like think about. like the tush push, right? It's a. guaranteed first down every time you're. first. There are so many goal line. stands throughout a year that happen. inside the five. If you could all every. time No, you got a 610. Like just get an. NBA guy that wasn't quite good enough in. the NBA and just throw them a jump ball. I don't know. Is it Is it harder than Am.

I making this? >> Yes, it's way harder than [laughter]. what you're making it. Are you kidding. me? >> Okay. Well, I don't That's why I'm. asking. I'm asking two guys that would. know. >> I DON'T THINK IT LOOKS THAT HARD. >> And maybe have him rush on kick block, too, so he can be uh you know, he's got. a little special teams value. That's all. you need. You just. >> just bring Shaq out of retirement and. throw him the ball. He's still going to. catch it, right? But to your point, I I. [laughter] think I think there was like. I I think Gates revolutionized the game. in a lot of ways. I mean, really before. that, you Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham, right? These kind of. basketball guys that came over and.

applied a lot of that skill set to what. they were doing as as as tight ends. Jimmy was all heart, man. All heart. And. I really wish we would have could have. had five, seven more years together. >> Yeah, I know. I had to show him some. love, dog. Yeah. Appreciate that. >> So, Hall of Fame, but it wasn't always. roses, right? It wasn't always the. easiest thing. mentioned earlier, walk-on at Purdue early in your career, like a lot of turmoil coming from the. Chargers to the Saints. What was that. like? Like a lot of people, you had the. injury and you know what's going on with.

the shoulder, all this stuff. What was. that like for you at that moment? >> Uh the the injury was devastating in San. Diego. Um because I I really thought. there was a moment where I thought I. wouldn't play football again. Um I mean. I I had been through a lot with the. Chargers. I got drafted there in the. second round to back up Doug Fluty, which was the best thing that ever could. have happened to me cuz Doug Fluty was. my style of quarterback. We were both. undersized, right? He was 5'9 and a. half, a buck 80, right? But the guy had. played 22 years of professional.

football, >> right? Four different leagues. >> He was Mahomes before Mahomes from the. perspective of like the niftiness making. just making it happen outside. And we. would do a lot of under center stuff. because it was kind of a a bit more pro. style, two back, eye back field, running. power, running different uh weak lead. schemes and the play action. Right. And. and Lorenzo O'Neal as our fullback, right? Lo. >> Yeah, babe. >> And Doug Fluty at times would backpedal. a sevenstep drop from under center. When's the last time you saw that? This. is [laughter] This is like Fran.

Tarkington stuff, you know? But like he. was just an old school dude. >> Yeah. >> He did push-ups, situps, ran hills, and. played basketball. That was his that was. his like strength and conditioning. program and just threw the ball. Just. played ball. It was he was like backyard. ball. >> But he was he was the epitome of, oh, I. got to get the ball out a little bit. sooner than normal. Just put a little. air under it, right? Throw that little. two ball, man. Right. Just lay it over. the wheel in front of the safety to that. end cut before he's out of the great. So. like his level of timing and. anticipation was second to none. So I.

learned so much just from observation. and watching him. had a chance to. compete against him my second year. Won. the job and then he backed me up for. three years after that. Now I was. benched three times in those three years. with Marty Shanheimer. Yeah. The first. one I deserved it. The second one kind. of the third one I didn't think I. deserved it and I was pissed and had a. knockdown dragout screaming match with. Marty Sean on the sideline in December. in Pittsburgh and then in the hallway. after and then in his office the next. day. >> Holy cow. And at the end of the day, like I I I knew this, he Marty was.

always making decisions that he thought. were in the best interest of the team, even if I didn't agree with him. But I. love the man and he he developed me in. so many ways, character, leadership. Um, but I I I love and respect that man so. much. But finally kind of got to the. point where through those ups and downs. and through that adversity, I earned the. starting spot, made my first Pro Bowl in. ' 04, kind of team goes to the playoffs. Even though they drafted Philip Rivers, Fluty was still there. like I was the. guy and I had kind of established. myself. And then last game of the season. in '05 going into an offseason where I.

didn't have a contract, but I was hoping. to get like that long-term commitment. Y. >> and I go down with a dislocated throwing. shoulder, right? Literally arm stuck. like this walking off the field. I get. to the sideline, they pop that thing. back in, and I'm just going, man, I'm. probably never going to put a Charger. uniform on again. And it's like, I'm in. a play football game. Some doctors told. me I had a 25% chance of coming back and. playing again, man. >> So like just absolutely devastating. and. yet I mean tested me in so many ways but. also I think strengthened just my faith. in in in the unseen and unknown that uh.

you know God's got a plan for me and. >> that's awesome man. >> It may not be in San Diego and and. that's okay. I just have to trust it and. that's that's how New Orleans the out. New Orleans opportunity. >> came along. No doubt. >> smooth sailing from there. I uh dude you. >> do you think the the QBs in today's game. are are on a real short leash? Does it. feel like that or do you think it's fair. still that you know you got to you got. to show up when when you're called upon? >> I think we do most of them a disservice. Um I mean look there's high expectations. right and I think it's the coaches are.

on short leashes. Um you know the the. fan bases you know want a winner now. >> Yeah. >> Um I mean you look at Sam Darnold and. everything that he's overcome. I think. it's it's a highly inspirational you. know story and journey. >> And there's a few others like that. Baker Mayfield you know um kind of a. similar similar situation. I think. there's there's so much to play in this. position as you know. You know, >> that's why I got out of there, DUDE. [laughter]. [screaming]. >> Former former former Q. >> Exactly. >> Always ready for the double pass. >> Always [laughter] whenever. >> Always ready for the double pass.

>> Like I said, I I don't know if I can get. it there anymore, so I'll just l I can. still pitch at five yards. I'm good. >> Yeah, I I think there's in in most cases. too, these high draft picks are going to. teams that obviously have have a lot of. holes to fill as well. You know what I'm. saying? >> Yeah. And I think who was it? Aman was. saying. >> Aman had a a very good. >> a lot of these organizations are failing. these QBs more than they're they're. failing the organization. It's. >> true. >> I mean when you play the game long. enough you can pinpoint it. You can see. which ones that are, you know, maybe. getting that disturbance that you're. talking about and others that are just,

you know, need to make those strides. >> I would say this. I mean, look, I sat. for a year behind Fluty. So valuable for. me. Mahomes sat for a year behind Alex. Smith. I'm sure so valuable for him. Brady sat for a year behind Bledo. Aaron. Rogers sat for three years. Jordan Love. sat for three years behind him. There is. something to sitting for a period of. time because you will glean a ton. And. then when it is your time, a little more. of like feeling like you've earned it, too, you know, and this is my. opportunity. I've been preparing for.

this opportunity. Here we go. As opposed. to if you're going to throw a guy in the. fire right away, man, there's going to. be ups and downs. You just got to be. ready for and you got to be patient with. it. >> No doubt. And I I think it's also like. when you go into a room with a guy. that's been doing it for a long time. So. many of these guys like the coach is one. thing, but seeing a player playing the. position and how they prepare like I I. do remember this vividly when we drafted. Carson Wentz. >> They purposely went and got Chase. Daniels. >> because he was with you in New Orleans. and like they were doing he's like. showing Carson how you prepared. Yeah.

>> He's like we're going to get in at 6. a.m. We're going to do this. This is how. Drew prepared and like all that. Like. it's so important to have that. perspective of it for some of these. young cues as well. >> I have I have I have two two theories. around when a quarterback's going to be. ready. Yeah. >> Number one is having a a great veteran. backup or veteran starter who starts in. front of you for a period of time before. you then have the opportunity which is. kind of what we just talked about. Right. >> The second is I think you need roughly.

50 highlevel starts. >> before you are really like there and. ready. Yeah, >> those high level starts could be. college. >> Like plenty of times we've seen this um. potential drafted, >> but they only had 15 college starts. Well, if that's the case, it's going to. take him three years before they're. ready. I'm just telling you, right? So. then start looking at the guys like. Brock Party. Brock Pury, a undersized, all these things like 50 college starts. at Iowa State. So I can tell you most of. the times when they stepped foot on the.

field, they were the underdog. >> He was having throwing a lot of balls. grabbing a punch well above their. fighting weight. >> Oklahoma Texas still in the conference. everything. So he comes in and you're like, "Okay, he's got some experience like he's got. something to him." Hence why maybe this. success happened a little bit quicker. and he's playing for a really good team. with some good players, right? There's. some other examples of that. Um but. yeah, I I think it's the number of. starts really has a lot to do with their. readiness. Yeah, >> I think to step into that role, too. >> Okay, I like it.

>> How about a guy Chase Daniels making a. hell of a [ __ ] living in the NFL, huh? >> Yeah. I know they bust all three of us. with him. >> I know. I love Chase. Chase lives down. the street from me in San Diego right. [laughter] now. I got I got to bust. Chase balls. I think the last stat I. saw, the most money earned per snap in. the NFL than any man in history. >> I've heard that same stat. I think it's. got to be. >> Chase. Well done. >> Well done. Hacked it. HACKED THE SYSTEM. [laughter]. >> HEY, but to his credit, always [ __ ]. ready. Always ready. Always prepared.

First one in, last one out. Dude, you. talk about like chip on the shoulder. I. I messed with Chase. I'm like, "Dude, >> him and Missou was [ __ ] fun to watch. Him and J-Mack.". >> Yeah. I was like, "I've never seen a. quarterback in the NFL shaped like high. school nose guard, bro." But you. [laughter] did it. Yo, you did it, [screaming] huh? You made it, huh? >> You're here. You did it. >> That's great. That is great. [laughter]. >> Chase the best. I love you, Chase. >> That's so good. >> Back to your career. You go from the. Chargers and you end up in New Orleans. How, first of all, how close were you to. me ending up in Miami Dolph? >> Miami. Yeah, close. I I mean on paper.

like that was a that was an obvious. decision. It was Miami all the way. Miami had Nick Sin. They had just come. off a nine and seven season where they. won like the last seven in a row. So. like they they kind of had it figured. out. Defense was lights out. Zack. Thomas, Jason Taylor. Their offense uh I. loved all their coaching staff. Mike. Malarkey was the OC. Jason Garrett. quarterback coach. Hudson Hal was our. line coach who had been our O line coach. the year before when we had won the. division. Loved HUD. They were running. the same offense that we were running. like Miami Dolphins. I'm sitting there. eating um dinner on Wayne Heisinga's.

yacht. He's there at dinner talking. about, "Hey, we're going to go we're. going to go play golf in Scotland every. every uh uh summer with Dan. Um I got a. helicopter over there. We're just going. to hop around. No state income tax." I'm. like, "Dude, this is wallpaper. Miami, here I come." Right? And then on the. flip side, you got New Orleans, right? Six months post Katrina, some unknown. head coach named Shawn Payeyton, right? Who is this guy? Right? And ironically, five years previous when I was being. when I was being like in the draft, uh. Tom Condan, my agent, I had probably 15.

teams that I thought might draft me and. he's like, "We're going through that. list leading up to draft day." And he's. like, "Man, you got all these great. possibilities." He's like, "Man, you. know, honestly, the only one I would. really not want you to go to is the New. Orleans Saints." Like kind of. dysfunctional party town, this and that. Like, so I had that ringing in my head. as well, right? So, again, on paper, it's like this is so obvious and I'm not. leaving anything to chance. I'm going to. go and I'm going to give each one like. its fair opportunity. And like the Miami. trip was amazing with the exception of.

they put me through the ringer like 6. hours of these this medical testing cuz. I I I was only two like eight weeks. posttop on an eight-month rehab. So I. was nowhere close. I mean my arm, you. know, I'm still kind of in a sling, you. know, and I can't do anything. And. they're they do the uh you know, the. saline solution, the contrast MRI. So. I'm like in an MRI too for two hours. just aching, right? I get out of that. They stick these big needles in my. shoulder to test nerve endings. They're. wanting to test everything. So, I just I. got this feeling of like doubt like they.

don't really and and then their doctors. were the ones who told Sabin, "We think. he's got a 25% chance of ever coming. back and playing again.". >> Jeez. >> Holy cow. >> And I go to New Orleans and it's like, "You are our guy." Like Shawn Peyton, Mickey Lumis, you're our guy. We're. building this offense around you. They. did everything they could to kind of. roll out the red carpet despite all the. circumstances. I mean, New Orleans was. still destroyed, >> right? Like, >> and the epic story is Shawn Peyton after. this great visit there, gets lost in the. Lake View neighborhood and we're we're.

driving through there and houses are off. of foundations, Chevy truck upside down. the living room, all of a sudden car. stops, there's a tugboat in the middle. of the road and I'm looking at my wife. like, "Are you seeing what I'm seeing?". But it was also one of those moments. like, man, this is so much bigger than. just football. Like, we get to be a part. of one of, you know, the resurrection of. one of America's greatest cities. Like, this is God's calling in our life. And. so that was the determining fact. >> There's so much beauty down there that. got restored through you guys bringing. that happiness to him, man. >> [ __ ] kudos, brother. That's a crazy.

story, though. You went from literally. being like, "That's what free agency is. like. You get to go on yachts and like. >> get told you get to golf all over the. world with everyone to like sit in an. MRI for two hours." That's crazy, man. >> You end up with Shawn Payeyton. >> Yeah. >> What are your first impressions of. Shawn? What was it like to be coached. by? >> Yeah, I I I would say this. I there were. moments and and look this this stayed. true for 15 years where I thought Bill. Parcels was standing in front of. [laughter] us, you know, really well he.

was a like I would say look his big. biggest influence is John Gruden. Bill. Parcels like when he would get up and. start installing offensive football, you. know, [laughter] oh through here it was. like John Gruden, right? But then when. he would get pissed off and like like go. try to go toe-to-toe with somebody or. challenge somebody or get. confrontational, dude, it was parcels, man. Yeah, it was all parcel. Yeah. Like. in fact, there were those moments where. I could tell he would get up in the team. meeting, I could just watch him walk in. I'd be like, "Ah, [ __ ] He talking one.

of these." [laughter]. >> I I could just I could feel it, you. know, and we were going to get it, you. know. But it was good. I mean, it was. always just it was wisdom. you see uh. him and uh Bonix's relationship and see. a little bit of the. >> Oh yeah, there's some fire. There's some. fire. >> Bo throws it back at him too, >> dude. Absolutely. And I think Sean. appreciates that. >> That's what I was going to I was going. to say the same thing. We had Howard Mud. early in my career in Philly. Oh yeah. >> And I felt like he used to sometimes. just yell at you to see what your. response would be. And I think that. sometimes it's like more even mental.

like he they want that like fire out of. a guy. And like if you're willing to. answer that, you're willing to stick up. for yourself like no coach, I think that. this is what you told me and you know. what I mean? That goes a little bit with. those guys. >> What I appreciated so much about Sean. was um he had an ability to order the. chaos like to to to to block out all the. noise and just give you a very key and. uh a very defined like keys to victory. Yeah. >> And and narrow it down to the point. where hey man this is our vision like.

this is the path to get there and now. let's go execute. Um he instilled. confidence in guys. He had a way to. motivate guys through kind of humor. You. know, his coaches just have a knack like. um I give an example. It was like we had. a safety one time who was getting all. kinds of interceptions. Um but um he. wanted to bust his balls in practice. just to kind of keep him honest or he's. like, "Hey, you know, DB's like he's. going to intercept it, but we got to. block everybody cuz he's he's slow. He's. slow as molasses. He's deep. [laughter]. He's they're going to hawk him before he. gets the end zone. So we got to block. everybody in order for him to get in.".

like he would just make comments like. that like just to like just just in case. you started, you know, feel pretty good. about yourself, you know, like he just. keep you honest, hold you accountable, you know. So, he had an act for that. And then I would say just like his open. and honesty to you. He was always open. door policy. Come see me anytime you. want if you want to talk about anything. You may not like what I have to tell. you, but I'm always going to be honest. with you. >> Come on now. >> So, guys, come up there. I'm not happy. about my playing time or this and that. He's like, "Okay, well, let me tell you. why, but now let me tell you how we can. rectify that or how we can fix it, how.

we can get better than that." And he. would give you that path and that. vision. And he was amazing at that. >> That's awesome. >> Those are the kind of guys you want to. play for, man. >> I got to ask this too, like very. opinionated guy, offensive genius. Shawn. Peyton. >> Yeah. >> Hall of Famer, one of the most brilliant. minds in the game. >> Yeah. >> What was it like game playing with you. guys? Like there's like who's are you. getting plays? Like how does that go? Was it full trust or were you throwing. in your your input on on the Mondays and. Tuesdays getting up to the Wednesdays? >> I'd say I mean it was very.

collaborative. Um it's funny. I went. back and looked at a 2006 call sheet. which was our first year. And this in. 2020 I was like hey pull up an 06 call. sheet and bro it was like third grade. compared to where we had evolved to back. 2020. And a lot of that though was. because we had been together so long. that it's not like you really eliminate. you just kind of like add little layers. to. >> Oh yeah. little wrinkles. It's just. little wrinkles. His ability just to. walk in and be like, "Hey, you remember. in 2010 we're playing the Eagles and. we're down there in the red zone and.

it's like, "Oh yeah, coach." Like, it's. amazing the recall you have. Like, I. can't remember what I had for breakfast. yesterday, but I can recall a game 15. years ago, right, in the red zone. >> I can recall more of the times that it. didn't happen, though. So, if somebody. says, "Oh, it because those are the ones. I sit there and I think about for the. next three days on how to defeat it if I. get it again." Yeah. So, those are the. ones that just get like implemented in. my brain. >> It's it's trauma. I I've thought about. this a lot. It's literally like you have. these traumatic experiences on game day.

because it's either something that was. like a disappointment that then just. lingered and you just like hyper. analyzed for the next week, >> dude. >> Right. Or it was kind of like one of. those like a bit of fear and it was like. some chemical reaction in your brain. that just like seared it in your bra. thinking about this. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah. For sure. Trauma. I. like that. >> No. Staring at the ceiling. Why didn't I. go left? [laughter]. Outside release this. was it. That's all I had to do. >> No, but you're right there. I wonder. what it would be like as a then a young.

quarterback coming into a system though. that was literally like a 15 years worth. of, you know, PhD work to get it to that. point, right? >> And then all of a sudden it's like kind. of having to go back to, you know, square one, right? Cuz we did evolve so. much and there was such a level of. trust. Like it got to the point where I. knew what he was going to call, when, how, why, right? That whole play. caller's intent. I mean, we were just so. much on the same page. That's awesome. >> And then the communications on the. sideline were awesome. Like fourth down, you got a play you like. Hell yeah, coach. I got one. All right, let's go. >> That's awesome. Hell yeah.

>> The best kind of moments, man. >> All right, >> we got to ask you this. We been asking. this one a little bit. Fill in the. blank. >> People forget that blank was a problem. Kind of like somebody that like we. already kind of did a little bit with. Jimmy, but he's not really that. forgotten, I guess. >> Yeah. Listen, >> I'm going to get a plug for my guy Jory. Evans. >> J Evans. >> J Evans. You know, you got to teach us a. little something. Who's this? Right. guard. Yell at me. >> I always thought it was Jere Evans. So, I'm sorry, Jar. But yes, >> future Hall of Famer. He was he was in. the top 15 this year. You was top 15. last year. >> Yes. >> Like he was.

>> Philadelphia native. >> Philly native. Exactly. Um five-time. allp pro. Like I I think for a a long. period of time, best guard in football. >> Well, it was him and Carl Nicks. Both of. those guys. Absolutely. Having those two. dudes. >> Unbelievable. You want to hear a good. Carl Nick story? >> Please, >> please. >> So, we draft Carl Nicks out of Nebraska. like fifth round, which I was a steal. just like cuz he was one of the most. giant human beings you've ever seen, right? Like 6'4, 360 or something. So, we uh we have a bunch of injuries. All. of a sudden, he's starting at left. guard. This is 08, his rookie year, like.

week two or three. So, like, dude, he's. fish out of water. And we're short now. at O line, too, because a guy had gotten. hurt. So, we're hot practice outside New. Orleans. And he's taken every rep, first. team, second team. So he's like 35. consecutive plays in and he's just. dragging sucking air like it's thick. outside and O line coach Doug Marone is. just on him on and on him and like I'm. stepping up into the huddle again to. call a play and Carl is just kind of. bent over just sucking air. >> and Marone just to kind of make a point.

he goes into the huddle to grab Nicks to. like you know stand him up and I don't. know what came over me but like I I just. have a rule that when I step in the. huddle it's my huddle. I want all eyes on me. I'm leading this. >> Yeah. >> And so when Marone stepped into the. huddle, I I I didn't even think about. it. I just reacted. I grabbed Doug. Marone and I threw him out of the. huddle. >> Oh my gosh. >> And I said, "I got him.". >> Yeah. >> And I looked at Nicks and I was going to. kind of help him up and be like, "Come.

on, big fella. Let's go. You know, 10. more plays, whatever.". >> Yeah. >> And Nick just kind of stood up like. bowed his chest down. He looked at me. He's like, "Man, nobody's ever going to. touch you.". [screaming]. >> Like, you got my back, boy. I got you. for life. >> Awesome. Holy cow, that's great. >> And then four years later, highest paid. garden football. >> That's right. [ __ ] yeah. Unfortunately, it wasn't with us. It was It went to the. Bucks, but. >> both of those guys together were they. were a problem. >> That's badass. We always end it with uh. with one question. We got to take it. back to the early days, dog. What was.

your welcome to the NFL moment? >> Oh, dude. I'll tell you the hardest. hardest I've ever been hit was Zack. Thomas 2003 in Miami. Again, one of. these like trauma moments. >> So, we run we run like this uh this. little fake uh counterweak playaction. play. You know, the line is slamming it. down. Here comes the guard to kick out. the end back just kind of chipping off. the edge out in the flat. And then you. have some, you know, exotic down the. field route concept. And so, here's Zack. Thomas. He reads this guard pull. So he.

just kind of comes over here and I come. off this playaction fake and my eyes. are, you know, trying to look down the. field, but I see it was like the parting. of the Red Sea and then it's me and Zack. Thomas, but he's like 15 yards away. >> Four running. >> and it's zone. It's zone. Zack, you're. supposed to be like deep metal or like. hook over here, >> right? >> But it's one of those like, oh, nobody's. accounting. >> I see it. >> And he just starts hauling ass. >> And it's one of those like, oh no, I I. mean I I got time. He's got to take like. 15 steps to get to me, right? He closed.

that gap so fast. And I had to cut this. ball loose so much earlier than I wanted. to. And I just felt like this is going. to be bad. And I threw it and just kind. of tried to like spin turn. >> He hit me so hard. Like I think I did. like a double back flip gainer. >> Landed on my head. Now they did throw. the flag cuz he did. He hit me square in. the side of the head. >> Yeah. >> Through a flag. I underthrow the ball by. like 15 yards. Gets picked. say Madison. or [laughter] Pastor Tan or one of those.

guys. >> and but they throw the flag so we get. the play but I was just like oh my god. like is that how hard these dudes hit? >> Yeah, >> that's crazy. >> That's amazing. I do want to ask you. Darren Sprouls. >> We didn't talk about him at all. >> Yeah. >> What was Sproul? I mean one of my. all-time favorite teams. >> All time favorites. So first thing I'd. say is like you know leadership comes in. all shapes and sizes. >> Oh no. >> And that dude did not have to say a. word, right? Like you just watch the way. he works and watch the way he approached. his craft. Like every rep was a Super.

Bowl rep, a full speed rep. >> Like I I love that dude so much. He was. my workout partner in San Diego forever. Like just in the offseasons. And. actually the story goes 2011 is the. lockout year. I start to get the feeling. as we're working out that offseason that. Reggie's going to get traded, right? And. we're all on our own. Like we're not. back at the facility. So there's a lot. of just craziness. And right before the. season start, we trade Reggie to the. Miami Dolphins. And in the meantime, like I'm calling Shawn Peyton and I'm. like, "We have to get Sprouls." Like I'm. sitting here throwing with him every day. and he was having a little riff with the.

Chargers. Yeah. And I was like, >> "If we're trading Reggie, we have to get. this guy." So sure enough, that happens. We have him for three years. Like we. were together. He was drafted to the San. Diego Chargers in ' 05 when I was there. >> Okay. >> So our running back room was Leanian. Tomlinson, Mike the Burner Turner. You. remember Mike Turner? >> Hell yeah. >> Big Mike T. And then and then Darren. Sprouls. And Darren Sprouls was our. little scat back, but he um he's a. generational player. >> Hell yeah. I think if you're going to. watch like a choice route reel, like how. do you just arc release out of the back. field, set a linebacker up with a. vertical stem and then break out cross.

face, hook it up. >> It used to drive me crazy. We anytime we. would get and this is before they. started doing like the fiveman fronts. with the running zone. Every other time. they bit a bare front, it was man. covers. I'm like, why the hell are we. not just throwing it to Darren Sprouls. every I'm dead serious. It used to make. me mad. Like nobody's going to guard. this dude in space. Just throw him the. ball. Who's going to tackle him? Like I. just it used to I was furious. >> Here's my other spoolie story. We're on. a two-minute drive 2013 against the the. Niners. The Niners defense was stout,

right? So here you are, Navaro Bowman, Patrick Willis. Okay. >> Studs. >> We're kind of approaching midfield. All. we need is a field goal. So they start. trying to light us up, right? >> And I I remember at one occasion I know. it's going to be man and here these two. guys are lined up in the A gaps and. they're going to hit it. And I know I. got Jimmy Graham matched up on the. matchup I want, but I also know we're. going to have to hold up for a second. So I remember just like looking over at. Sprrolls and I just be like it's going. to be like you know Navaro Bowman. I'm. like hey bro just blow up just one time. on me. >> please [laughter]. get in there.

You know. >> he was an underrated blocker. Seriously. this low center gravity. He was freaking. all hard man. So hard all effort. >> I love the dude. Like he would step up. and do that whenever you needed. He was. a stud. One of my all time favorites. man. Drew. You're the man. Thank you so. much. >> Congratulations. legend dog. All. right, that wraps up another episode of. New Heights. Thank you to Drew Brees. Oh, my love. He's so He's so electric. >> Did not disappoint for one second. >> Oh, he's the best. >> It's incredible. Oh, let's also not.

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