Coaching Changes, Wildcard Recap & Jameis Winston on Giants Rookies, QB Celibacy & TD Catches | 175

The question of the week is. And yeah, I got to answer this. Oh, I. love this. Come on. >> What is your favorite Jameis Winston. quote? Favorite Jameis Winston quote. How lucky are we. to be here in Cleveland, Ohio. on this beautiful day? Come on. You got to be kidding me, man. So happy and grateful to play in some. snow. Bro, it just it makes me crack up every. single time. It's just the best. Yes, man. I was happy I was able to to. represent for y'all [ __ ].

Let's go. Time out. What's Jameis Winston's. favorite Jameis Winston quote? Mhm. LET. ME ASK ME. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BOYS AND GIRLS, welcome back to New Heights. The one and. only show brought to you by Reese's Oreo. Cups. Dog gone, I love me some Reese's. and I love me some Oreos. So, put the. two together and you got one of my. favorite combinations. And one of your.

guys' favorite combinations are the. Kelce brothers. How about that? We're. your hosts. I'm Travis Kelce. My big. brother Jason Kelce. And thank you to. 92% for tuning in each and every single. week. If you're not a 92% or you want to. be, subscribe on YouTube, Wonder Plus, or wherever you get your podcast. And. follow the show on all social media at. New Heights Show with one S. For fun. clips throughout the week. And we're. going to have some fun ones for you. today, baby. >> Jason, let the people know what we got. coming up. >> OOH, 92% WE GOT A AMAZING PLAYOFF. EPISODE. >> PLAYOFFS. A little less excited.

obviously. The Philadelphia Eagles did. not come out with the victory. We are. going to touch on that. We're also going. to recap an electric super wild card. weekend outside of the Birds game. Break. down a youth hockey fight cuz who. doesn't love doing that? Look ahead to. the divisional round OF THE PLAYOFFS. AND we're eating W's BECAUSE JAMEIS. WINSTON IS HERE. CAN YOU DO THAT? I. can't cross the two fingers. I can't do. this one right now. >> I jammed my [ __ ] early on. Well, either. way, we got Jameis coming. One of the. most electric guys. Let's get into the.

episode right now with a little bit of. that new news. News. New news is brought to you by Hill's Pet. Nutrition. That's right. >> it. All right, 92% we've got some. massive new news. All right? Massive new news. We're launching the. new official destination for New Heights. merch including brand new exclusive. collabs with some outstanding brands. I'm wearing this hoodie. I do got to say. I really enjoy I'm I'm big on texture.

Do you know what I mean? I I don't like. when things feel synthetic. These feel. real nice. I like the color of this. shirt. This little baby shirt is it's heavy. It's got some girth to it. Just like. Vince Lombardi would have if he was a. real person. Where is Vince Lombardi at? It's in my garage. Yeah, we got to get some more good use. out of it. Dude, I really do want to do. some Lombardi games giving out gold. cups. I think this off season we got to. have some fun with all this stuff. Come.

on. This is also a place where you can. find and shop all of our favorite stuff. We call it Yeah. the Kelce Clubhouse. That's right. Kelce Clubhouse is the. official home for the 92% everything New. Heights, everything Kelce all in one. epic destination. And look at this right. here. Got to got a beautiful New Heights. green. What a what a [ __ ] dope layout. It's. the best. I mean, listen, there's a lot of cool. merch on there. There's a bunch of. products like Travis said, some of our.

favorite products that maybe not even. associated with the show, just things. that we like. You're going to see these. brands on this page. But one of the. things I'm really excited about this. clubhouse for is we've thought about. trying to bring this show to life. Like. we do this show every week. We love that. everybody tunes into this how. the fan base that we built with you. guys, the 92% and what are ways that we. can continue to build this thing in a. way that you guys have fun with it and. feel engaged. Whether that's creating. t-shirts or or things that 92%.

yourselves come up with, supporting. things that this show and our fan bases. encourage and like. We're just trying to figure out a way to. to have more fun with it. And I think. you guys will really enjoy it. It's this. is the first official launch. I got the. vintage pickup truck hoodie. I love that. one, man. You already know. The back The. back of it shows the pickup truck and. the license plate is dope though. No, it's dope, man. It's dope. This is what. the back of it looks like. There we go. Boom.

Nice. >> So We got the all right now and a New. Heights all right now team. You already. know. Um And we just. we wanted to do something fun for you. guys. Um. >> And make it easy to to you know, go one. destination for anything New Heights. related. So, Go over there and check out. the clubhouse. That is Kelce Clubhouse, baby. Yeah. Check it out. We got some. Are there any boyfriend whistles for. sale yet? Do we have any whistles yet? What about one hole straws or two hole. straws? We're brewing this thing up. All.

right now. All right, now let's talk Pro. Standard. One of our first big brand. collab of the Kelce Clubhouse is Pro. Standard. Jake, you got some of the. merch. Why don't you come on in here, buddy? Model it off. Jake's getting his. first modeling gig. Look at this. We got. This hoodie is nice. This hoodie is. nice. We got a nice washed gray look. We got. the t-shirt here, too. Jason, you were saying you like the. textures. We got like a raised logo. here.

Little bubbly. The bubble letter. I was. wearing this earlier. It's so comfy. It's unbelievable. Love it. Great job. This is maybe the highest quality thing. we've ever put out in the store. This is. This collab is for the people. I love. it. They're nice. They're nice. Why. don't you show off that Lombardi shirt a. little bit, too? We got the Lombardi. I. was wearing this one. >> stand up. Stand up. I want to see a. spin. I want to see a spin. You want me. to spin? Yes. >> pants, Jason. I don't I don't know what. I'm wearing under this. Are you just wearing underwear under.

this? Are you wearing a diaper right. now? >> do you wear with the ba- the Lombardi? Are you dressed like the Lombardi? I'm not appropriately dressed to be. modeling full body. I'll put it that. way. I think I disagree. I think you. look great. Oh, well, thank you. I. appreciate. >> we're also announcing our first book. That's right. Can you believe that we're. publishing a book? We're authors. Who. would have thought? We're authors. I. don't even know if that's the correct. way to say this. We're publishers. Yeah, we're publishers. Yeah. No Dumb. Questions is now available for pre-order.

on the Kelce Clubhouse. We're compiling. all the No Dumb Questions that you guys. have helped us build throughout these. wonderful three years of doing this show. thus far. So that you guys can enjoy these with. friends, people around you. I don't. know, you're taking a [ __ ] open the. book. That's what I like reading. IT'S GOT ALL THE BEST and funniest dumb. questions we answered on the show and. it's a in book for your reading. pleasure. Do you remember that book that. we had when we used to take shits and. growing up? There was like a book that had like.

random facts. And I would just sit there. and like get stuck This is before you. had your phones. But you would just get sit there and you. would get stuck on it. I remember the. random facts. There was always a Golf. Digest and a Tom Clancy book. Or. Popular Science. Popular Science is one. that they had like. >> Science was a good one. Was it Popular. Science or Popular Mechanics? Anyways, all right. Well, we don't have those, but we do have No Dumb Questions. You. can pre-order it now and you'll be one. of the first to get it when it drops.

later this year. Yeah. Who doesn't love a No Dumb Question? All. right now. We have the book if you want. to see it. Do you want to see it? I mean, yeah, sure. We'll see it. All. right, let's see it. Ooh. >> There you go. Oh, wow. There's a hardback hardback. Hardback. Hard cover. I'm about it, man. So, go check out. Kelce Clubhouse at. www.kelceclubhouse.com. It's live right now. We're going to be. highlighting. some new great stuff every week. Listen, tell us. We want this to be an.

interactive thing. Like you tell us what. you want. Like what are you guys. interested in celebrating this show. with? How can we provide for you? Yeah. We got a lot of fun collabs, new. products planned. So, let us know what you think. Yeah, and honestly, we're really proud of this. and it's been something that we've been. working on over the over the past year. And Yeah, I think listen, we've we've. been working on this for a while now. We've been trying to. build one hub. We've heard you guys. You. guys like representing the show. The 92%.

are freaking fearless and relentless in. their pursuit to express their 92% in. this. And this is what the shop does. And it's also going to I I get we want. this to be a communication thing. We. want to build this thing together. We we. love having the No Dumb Questions, fan. mail. Like all the things that you guys. do. >> the new collabs. And we love hearing. from you guys on what you guys think. We're pumped. Make sure you check out. kelceclubhouse.com. for new surprises every single week. And.

welcome to the club, 92% ers. Hey-o. Um did you want to do a dunk. update before we wrap new news? >> I mean, I think it's funny. I'd like to. hear what I'm genuinely curious if. Travis thinks I can do it. You look. legit as [ __ ] I look legit? >> Yes. Look at that. You are up there. There's no reason why you shouldn't be. able to dunk other than you probably. can't palm a basketball. I definitely I. can palm it. I don't think you can palm. a basketball. I Well, I can palm it, but. I can't. contain it through a violent movement.

like jumping and trying to dunk a. basketball. So, this is my question. I. can get high enough now I feel like. using my arms as momentum. What's the. technique of running and jumping with a. basketball that allows me to build this. This is why this is why you see a lot of. kids like throw the alley-oop and then. get it to right there right there by the. rim and then they just flush it. Right. here looking at you palm this [ __ ]. volleyball. It's great. You can't do a. basketball like that? Um I can. The. problem is I lose it at the top. It's. that It's that finger, isn't it? That. finger is not helping.

>> It's that finger, isn't it? My dead my. dead knuckle? Damn it, man. Dude, you look explosive. It looks like you got the footwork down. right. It's just I don't think you could. that that that I saw I saw you doing at. the end of your Dude, I got my my. weightlifting belt on. Did you see that? Take that [ __ ]. thing off. Tom, I'm trying to apply more force with. the belt. This is. Dude, you lost about a foot of of. airtime. Hey, that was a bad rep. We didn't show.

the ones that looked good on there. We're trying to build suspense here, but. >> That's hilarious. >> I'm very close. You didn't even get to. the rim, Jason. Mike didn't want to show. the good one. All right, I don't know. what you want me to tell you. He showed. the bad one. I'll take it. The weight. belt, I'm not sure if it was beneficial. or not. I got all sorts of gadgets I'm. going to try and use to get my fat ass. up there. A weight belt is not it. Well, it it it allows you to apply more force. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Dude, what? You have to be able to use those hips to. sink. >> know. I'm going to try a squat suit. I'm.

trying to squat suit this week. I'm. going to get my fat ass up there. >> You're not even going to touch the. [ __ ] rim. Dude, it's like a [ __ ] rubber band. How am I not going to be able to jump. higher? >> It's not a rubber band. It's legitimately a giant. >> restricting your hips. Yeah, well, listen, I'm not trying to actually. dribble and do functional things. I'm. just trying to. >> you need those things. You need those. things fluid so you can fire. Right now, that that's good for a stand still. movement. That's not good for. >> What about knee sleeves? >> No, you need you don't need knee.

sleeves. But my knees hurt. They might be able to. provide bounce. What what about. >> Get those outer hips going. That's how. you save the knees, man. Get the outer. hips going. >> the tights off? Should I take the tights. off? >> No, the tights are fine. Tights aren't. doing anything. All right. The first half of this video. is very legit, though. So, I'll give you. your props. I think you might you're. close you're way closer than I thought. you were. >> You thought? Yes. You bringing in all. these [ __ ] belts and [ __ ] braces. How high do you think I'd jump on the. vert tech? Not just standing, just.

running and jumping. Running and jumping. on a vert tech? No, no, no. I'm just. talking about how what height do you. think I'm reaching? I'm looking at you. getting like a. a hand length over the over the back. over the rim. So, it looks like you're. probably jumping like a 10 5 10 6. Dude, 10 8. 10 8 and a half, really? >> 2 in, man. Dude, Do you know how important 2 in is? Come on, man. Create life with 2 in. Yeah, dog.

If I had 2 more in, I'd be [ __ ]. I'd basically be a porn star at that. point. I mean, I'd [ __ ]. All right, man. Well, so how long did it already start? Did. the month start? Are we the whole month. of January? >> so so did this so January 29th, I'm. dunking. at a Sixers game. That's going to be the. day that I'm going to try and do this. Half half. during one of the timeouts?

I I honestly I don't know. I just know. it's on the 29th at a Sixers game. Dude, [ __ ] that's how you sell some [ __ ]. tickets right there. Well, I just I. figured I'm going to try and do this for. the first time. and you know, we're going all in. It's. either going to be maximum celebration. and energy at the first time I've ever. done this. >> Or Philly will literally be booing you. off the [ __ ] court. Yeah, it's going. to be public shame. It's going to be. public shame, which. I'm all in. Either way, I'm going to. feel something. Ah, man. Uh anyways, that wraps up new news. New news is.

brought to you by Hill's Pet Nutrition. Getting to some super wild card weekend. that we just experienced and man, was it. action packed. We had a bunch of [ __ ]. great matchups. Um but let's let's start off with some. bold topics that are brought to you by. Intuit TurboTax. That's right. Get get. to filing those taxes. Uh we are in. getting close to the tax season. So, uh. yeah, don't forget that. You don't want. to have them knocking at your door. uh telling them that you owe them. So, um nice best wild card weekend since.

best wild card weekend is playoff. football, baby. Are you [ __ ] kidding. me? We had four games decided by four. points or less. That's right. It's. the NFL's, you know, tighter than it's. ever been. in terms of the wins losses. Um. don't have to get into how many one. scored games I lost this year. The 12. fourth quarter lead changes in the first. four games uh set up an all-time playoff. record. How about that? 12 fourth. quarter lead changes. That means teams. are coming up big on offense and side of.

the ball. Uh and uh and going back and. forth, man. And god, it does create some [ __ ] magic, man. It's been wild. Yeah, the fourth. quarters and the lead changes have made. them extra exciting at the end of them. The Bears game alone, I was just. blown away. I mean, it was insane. Soldier Field getting a [ __ ] dub, man. God damn it, dude. That place. looked like it was absolutely rocking. Are there two teams that hate each other. right now more than the Bears and. Packers? >> I don't know. It doesn't seem like it. Dude, you know what you know when it.

they really hate each other is when the. [ __ ] two coaches it's you can't hide. it. It's like palpable. Yeah. Like. normally coaches I'm I'm so used to. coaches I kind of love it. I'm used to. coaches like, "Oh, no, you know, we got. a lot of respect for these guys. We. don't want any bullets and board. material." These guys are talking [ __ ]. before the game. They're the handshakes. at midfield is petty. I mean, this [ __ ]. would Look at the. She loved that [ __ ] I knew you would. love that [ __ ]. It's so [ __ ] I don't even know what.

to say about it. I just it's crazy. LaFleur's got to be [ __ ] pissed. The. look at his face. It's tough, dog. What. the Bears have been doing with the Bears. have been doing, man. They those fourth. quarter surges and like we were kind of. talking with James later in this. episode, man. Some some quarterbacks. just have that ability to just [ __ ]. flip that switch and they get into that. mode of where, you know, I I don't have. to think about this. This is do or die. I have to throw this ball. I have to. make this play. And Caleb Williams came. up [ __ ] huge. Gave us some highlights.

that we'll remember forever. We should. just rename him Mr. Caleb Dr. Williams. or something like Dr. Mr. Williams Dr. Caleb. >> Um this is Jekyll and Hyde. What he was. in the first half and what he is at. certain times where it feels like it. should be easier. And then all of a sudden at the end of. games when it has to happen, he makes. some of the most insane throws I've ever. seen in my life. It's like he just. there's and it's. feels like it's been like this all year. He just he feels it out. He feels it. out. He feels it out and then the fourth. quarter comes and he's just like,

"All right, I know what's going on now.". And he's just like he just shows up and. I mean, it was that that fourth down. where he threw the [ __ ] like off the. ground threw it going left. Yeah. Crazy. [ __ ] yeah. It's even like literally. the game is. virtually over if you don't make that. cuz you're all you're the Packers are in. scoring position again already. And it's. like, man, just an absolute epic [ __ ]. throw. And to be able to [ __ ] see. this and be like, "Oh, yeah, he's open. I can put it somewhere he can catch it.".

It's [ __ ]. crazy. Like how? And then what is it a doozy for him to. hold on to this [ __ ] ball right here. after he turns around? Yes. Big time. ball. >> Getting schlapped. He did. He got. [ __ ] schlapped. The Eagles got. schlapped. Niners 23, Eagles 19. Uh Eagles season. is over. Very frustrating game and season. Yeah, you could tell you could tell everybody. was frustrated. in Philly, man.

Everybody that's talking about it, everybody on that team. It just feels. like that's they just couldn't get it. clicking, man. And I know they were. winning ball games, but you already. know, man. When it when it's not. clicking, you got to. you got to find a way to to to get over. that hump, man. It just felt like there. was always something eerie about what. was going on over there this year, man. And it definitely wasn't like that last. year. Last year, it was [ __ ]. Saquon and and and the excitement. everybody's celebrating in the end zone. We got [ __ ].

guys running down field like running to. celebrate with each other. It just felt. like there was something off about that. Eagles team this year and unfortunately, um it came down to the last play against. the Niners, man. And shout out to Kyle. Shanahan and those [ __ ] 49ers, man. They are uh proving it year in year out, man. Yeah, I mean, it's probably as bad I mean, everybody's. saying it now. So, it's not like it's. breaking, but the coaching job Kyle. Shanahan's done this year, what they've. overcome as a team, what they have on. defense, like what Saleh has built. They.

are just a resilient resilient group and. they have fought through all the. adversity and they've overcome it and. they find themselves in the second round. of the playoffs missing their best. players on defense like two not just. like guys. Like, this is the best. linebacker Yeah. and best defensive end. in the league like arguably. So, it's. you know, offensively, they don't have. their star receiver. Aiyuk is out. Kittle has been in and out just up and. down again. I love George Kittle. I'm. wishing him the best for him, but sucks. Football is better when George Kittle is. [ __ ] on the field.

You know, they miss their quarter their. starting quarterbacks out for eight. games and they come in Matt Mac Jones. functions. It's just that organization. is is is doing it right. They have been. doing it right for a long time and it's. been impressive to watch. As for the Eagles, very very frustrating. season. Very very frustrating season. Defensively, played great and they I. mean, I know this game they want some. plays back, but. all in all, the defense played. outstanding all year. They overcame so. much. They got better. If you look at. the difference of.

what that defense is paid. I think it's. the lowest paid defense in the NFL and. their production, it is absolutely. insane. And a lot of that's cuz a lot of. those guys are young players that they. have brought in. Vic Fangio, that entire. staff over there in defense has done a. phenomenal job. Phenomenal job. Offensively, it's been the thing that. everybody's been up in arms about. And I. get it. I really do. Um the expectations. should be much higher than what they put. out this season. I know I made some.

comments on Monday Night Football. I do. love Kevin Patullo. I'm not trying to. absolve Kevin Patullo of blame. Like. obviously they let go of Kevin today as. the offensive coordinator. Well, I guess. Tuesday as you're seeing it yesterday. And. of course like the offense wasn't up to. the task this year. It it regressed. And the main reason it regressed and. I've been saying this from the beginning. was the run game. The offensive line's. inability to. stay healthy all together to open up.

holes. Saquon Barkley was almost at the. NFL record for rushing last year. All. right? They were incredible in the run. game. And the passing game they struggled last. year. I mean they were there was all. sorts of things happening last season. that we like to forget because we won. the Super Bowl. But the passing game has. been an issue for multiple seasons now. Now the running game isn't there. Why. isn't it there? The offensive line is in. and out. They're hurt. Guys are. overcoming injuries. They're not playing. the same way they've played in the past.

You have a. a quarterback that's not running as. much. Jalen Hurts is the the threat of him. running the ball. Can't stress that. enough. >> Opens up so much for the running back. when they have to truly respect it. And. it also opens up things down field. And. they never I know everybody likes to. talk about the predictability. And to be honest with you guys I would. love to see more creative things. I love. watching the trick plays. I loved as. much as I didn't love watching it. in the game, you know, the the trick. play to McCaffrey was an awesome play,

right? I like watching the creativeness. I like I would love to see more motions. I would love to see all that stuff. That. being said we had plays to make in that. game. I come I keep coming back to that. When it came when it comes down to it. not talking about the fourth down play. The 49ers had their opportunities to win. the game and we had ours. And we didn't. capitalize on ours. We didn't capitalize. in the the catches and and the throws. and the penalties that took back big. plays. It was similar to how the whole.

season has gone. So um it's a. frustrating way to end it. Uh. not that surprising with how they just. were never able to get it a lot of it. fixed. That's yeah. You know, I don't. know where they're going to go. offensively. I think sometimes it's when. you have success as a group when you. have success as an offense you tend to. rely on that. Like A.J. Brown on a slant. route has been automatic. For four. years. It doesn't matter what you do. Like it's like how do you you can't stop.

it. He's too big. He's too physical. This year all that stuff just didn't. work as well. It would probably behoove. the Eagles to bring in somebody with a. fresh perspective on where it's at. currently. Cuz you when you're in it. you're thinking about what you've done. well in the past. You're thinking about. how you've had success. Like man I know. this guy can do this. I know this can. happen here. Yeah. When you bring in somebody else it's. like man. this is where we're at now. And now we. can bring in some fresh ideas. We can. figure out a way to maximize things.

While keeping that nucleus together. Of. course. Yeah, I mean I I don't think it. needs to be anything actually that. drastic. I think we probably want. somebody who's been proven offensively. as a successful coach and he could come. in and and and look at things under a. new lens with a lot of similar pieces. Well, the big the big. you know, topic right now is that fourth. down call. And we know that Devonte. missed the the pass on that third and. 11. They didn't get lined up fast enough. or.

they were waiting to see what the. defense might have shown to call a. timeout and get the right play call. going into that fourth down. And they. end up going with what everybody's. saying online four verticals, which is. those of you that don't know football. knowledge it's a play that everybody has. ran their entire lives. Like we ran that. at Heights. We ran it at Cincinnati. We. ran it every offense it's day one type. stuff. And I think that's getting thrown. at Patullo as like that's like that's. not the play call that needs to be.

called right there. If it works it is. the play call to be had right there. And. I think that it's it's tough because. yeah it's cover four. That's not the. best look versus cover four. But every. play that you call has an answer. Yeah. And it's up to those players on the. field to be able to make it shake no. matter what. And um and I think you. know, it's easy to point fingers at the. end of the game when you're on your last. dollar. You're on your last play. You're. on the this is your last chance to to.

make it right. No, and you had a whole. fourth you had a whole four quarters to. try and get that win. And it's just it's. it's a crazy it's a crazy, you know, scenario to end the season on knowing. how much [ __ ] talent was over there. That's the thing. It's the highest paid. offense in the NFL and they are mediocre. across the board. That's what I keep. coming back to. The bottom line is this offense didn't. live up to what it should have, right? And Patullo is the offensive coordinator. bears responsibility and so do the. players. That's my thing. I don't think. the players played as good as they could.

have. And I and I love all those guys. and that's just the way it is sometimes. I had my seasons. I damn sure did. And you know, how do they rebound from. this? Where do they go from here? Um there'll be new faces in. There'll be. faces that are familiar that are out, you know, in the particular with Patullo. the fourth down call gets criticized. because I mean the whole offense was. criticized all year. Now I I don't think. it's fair to ever just put it on one guy. especially when the passing game. >> That's where I call [ __ ] You can't.

just throw it on one guy. Yeah, and and. Jalen said it after the game. You know, I I don't think right now is the time to. put it on anyone person. Now listen. I. he is the offensive coordinator. That is. a responsibility. Yeah. Well, it's not. only to call plays also to have the. players play well. Like and that's the. mark of all the coaches, right? That's. Jeff Jeff Stoutland is the best. offensive line coach in the NFL. That's. his job is to get the offensive line to. play well. We didn't play as well as we. have in the past. Now there's all sorts. of excuses. Like guys were hurt. Lane Johnson was. out for half of the year dang near. Like.

that makes it difficult. Again, I would. like to see more creativity. I think the. Eagles tried to they tried to do more. under center. So like if you're not. going to do the gun runs with Jalen you. might as well get underneath cuz that's. how that's why the gun runs are. successful. He keeps people honest. He's. a threat to go run the ball. Okay, now. we got to get under center. Now we got. to develop play actions. It it's hard to. develop all that stuff in the middle of. the season. And it just it never got to. what it needed to get to and the offense. as a whole just the players were hurt. Guys didn't play as well. Saquon didn't.

have the same year because in part the. offensive line wasn't as good. They were banged up. Um the run game is the main difference. from this season and last season. Still. a [ __ ] boatload of talent over there. in Philly. And we got a boatload of talent still. left in the playoffs, baby. Yeah, baby. Get to some of the other games in the. wild card weekend. We already talked. about that Bills Jags game, but that. Rams Panthers game was just as exciting. A little bit more action on the. offensive side. 34-31 Rams. Friend of.

the show Matthew Stafford went to. [ __ ] work. It's so fun seeing that. dude play the game, man. How he can. manipulate the defense with his eyes and. his shoulders and his and just like how. he casually goes through progressions as. a quarterback in the in the pocket. It's. just fun as hell to watch that guy go to. work, man. And especially later in the. game when it all counts. Panthers almost. pulled it off and I think that was the. bigger story is that the Panthers. actually gave the Rams a hell of a. [ __ ] fight. That was definitely the. story. I I I thought that the Rams would. win this game pretty handily. The.

Panthers kind of snuck in there. Hats off to Bryce. Put up [ __ ] 31. points in a wild card game. He made a. lot of freaking big plays. Hell yeah. Yeah, Bryce Young continues to just. improve and improve and improve. A guy. that I think everybody was questioning. whether he was going to be a bust or out. when he got benched what two games in. the last season? Yeah. Has re-emerged. and. man, the Rams defense. aren't any slouches, man. They got some. horses over there. Their front can get. after it. So heck of a performance. I. know it's not the outcome the Panthers.

wanted. At this point in the NFC I do. think it's going to come down to the. Rams Seahawks. I think they're the most. talented teams left. Seahawks it'll come. down to like if Sam Darnold can deliver. that defense is oh my god. They fly. around, dude. It is so [ __ ] fun to. watch them. Now they've. they they got to be ready though, man. Cuz I mean as much as we love to see how. that team has played throughout the. season and in big moments to feel like. they're ready for these big moments. Playoff football is playoff football, man. It is just a different beast. And.

you got to kind of have an understanding. of what you're getting yourself into. So. it's exciting to see. But Sam Darnold's a. crafty vet at this point. Knows how to. win some ball games. And I'm excited to. see see next week's match up, man. I am. too, man. I think. yeah, Rams Bears freaking. 49ers Seahawks all both of those games. are going to be awesome to watch. And we. watched a great game against the Bills. and Jags. Jags almost pulled it off. They were like that that Seattle juice.

They had the juice internally. Yeah. And. they had the excitement. They had they. come up big in big times throughout the. season. But playoff football it just. felt like the Bills had a little bit. more. uh I don't know. Just had a little bit. more the other day, man. And. you know, I think Josh being in these. moments before Yeah, I think that's a. big part of it. Huge part of it, yeah. Yeah. And and this is what everybody. keeps saying. I mean they I know Josh. gets a lot of the attention for the. Bills cuz he's the quarterback and he's. the guy that's the biggest name left in.

the playoffs. But. I do I I I know they beat the Jags and. it's a great win for the Bills. I just I. worry that this defense at some point. and that Josh I mean the the weapons. they have offensively outside of the run. game and Cook it's not that significant. Like how much Josh really get done? Now, they got it done this week against the. Jags. I'm always rooting for Josh. I. love that guy, but I don't know, we'll. see. This will be a big one this week. Two for 308 and got that thing out to. damn near everybody on the [ __ ].

offensive side of the ball. Nine. different Bills caught a caught a pass. and including Brandon Cooks who's only. been on the roster since November. So, he's seen the field well, man. What are. the Bill What are they going to do. against the Houston? Make plays. It may. make plays, dude. >> I don't know, man. I just feel like. they're going to struggle to get people. open. Josh is a big dude and he's he. makes plays as a quarterback. It just it. you know, whether it's just breaking an. arm tackle, you know, getting out of. these sacks, you know, that's huge. Getting out of the pocket, making the. defense have to play that extra, you.

know, 6 seconds. Uh Yeah, I wasn't I. wasn't really talking about this week. I. was more just talking about like. >> If they beat the Broncos, yeah. If they. play Houston, they're not going to do. anything. Well, the Broncos are so. weird, man. Sometimes teams will. freaking sneak up on them. Number one. seed is going to sneak up on them. No, I'm saying sometimes teams sneak up on. the Broncos. Oh, yeah, I hear you. Their. defense is really really good, but every. once in a while it's like I don't know, Houston's defense is like [ __ ]. insane. Like across the board. It's. about as legit as as it gets right now. >> Broncos are really good as well. That's. why it's playoff football, baby. It's.

the best there is. The best there is. Patriots Chargers not that exciting, but. Patriots came out 16-3. Everybody was. looking for Herbert to take that that. next step, man. Josh still 0 and 3 in. the playoffs. Huge Herbert fan over. here. Um and it's he was trying to make plays. with his feet, but it just at the end of. the day just didn't go well for him, man. There were a few What was it? Four. downs that they came up short on? They've been so banged up up front. They've lost both of their their star. tackles. >> was back there getting [ __ ] rocked.

>> know Yeah, I don't know. what you want the guy to do. We've seen. it before, but at the same time it's. like, man, he's he's a fearless. competitor. >> Yeah, my guy Milton Williams is running. around unblocked. I mean, it's they've. had to try and overcome that all year. and it's a testament to them to even be. here with some of the pieces that. they've been missing up front and how. good that defense is as well. Jesse. Minter deserves a lot of credit for what. he's built over there as well. As. someone who played both of these teams, who What do you think of that match-up? >> Broncos got to show up in the first. half. Not that they didn't against us.

I'm just saying like they're they're. notorious right now for finding ways to. win at the end of the game. They have to. show up in the first half. It's just you. can't win in the playoffs by not by like. not putting together four quarters. Unless you're Caleb Williams. I stand. corrected. I think the Bills being a veteran team. kind of trump some of that. You got to. play all four quarters against the. Bills. You know, you can't you can't let. Josh Allen get up there. He's a he's a. tempo controller. You know what I mean? And he'll For sure. >> And he'll he'll absolutely wear you down. as a quarterback, man. Both in the pass.

game and run game. And he's starting to. make like over the past like 3-4 years. he's been making the right decision. You. know what I mean? I think if the Broncos. come out, you know, making plays, Bo Nix comes out. throwing the ball downfield early, being. confident in his in in his read, this is. going to be a heck of a [ __ ] game. Yeah. >> And that's what I'm hoping for. And if. you're Denver, man, you got to wrap that. dude up, man. You got to find a way to not let Josh. Allen get break tackles and get outside. the pocket and and not only make plays. with his feet, but make plays with his.

arm outside of the pocket cuz that's. when you you can really get [ __ ]. torched. Well, the other game that we. had this past week in the is the Texans. Steelers game. I was at that one. Score. 30 to 6. Looks way more severe than what. that game was for the vast majority of. it, which was a defensive. battle between both teams. The Texans. are just so loaded across the board. Like Pittsburgh's front is incredible. The Texans like every level of that. defense has dogs all across it. It does.

DeMeco Ryans and Matt Burke, the. defensive coordinator, have them playing. physical. If CJ Stroud can stay composed. and poised, this team could be the best. team in the AFC. That's the reality of. it. Like last night against Pittsburgh. It's kind of all in his hands right now, man. >> Dude, I don't want to put it on him and. I think CJ's a great player, but it's. like, dude, this is a year where it's. like, dude, just freaking You got some. You got some guys over there. You got. some dogs. Don't make mistakes. >> Your running back. ran last night. Holy [ __ ].

>> Yeah, Marks He was getting down [ __ ]. hill. When you got that kind of physical. game and you're getting pockets like he. was getting, man, Yeah. it's it's all on. it's all on the big guy, man. And. obviously we're we're huge fans of him. I've had my had my opportunities to meet. the guy. Great guy and great player, even better guy on top of that. And he's. just it's all in his hands right now. with the way that defense is playing. Listen, it's going to be Texans versus. New England. We're going to see the. young quarterback that everybody likes, including me, Drake May, up in New. England face the best defense in the.

NFL. Yeah. I can't wait to watch this. game. I really can't. I I Points are. going to be at a premium in this one. I. don't know where it's going to go. Uh and. it'll be fun to see between CJ and Drake. May who can get it done. I don't know, man. This Texans defense, though, that's. what I'm the most excited to watch. Even. bigger news than than the Texans beating. the Steelers is Mike Tomlin stepping. away. Okay. Tomlin stepping down means. the Steelers will retain his trading. rights. He was not fired. That's.

interesting. >> The most recent coach that was traded. was Sean Payton. Yeah. Yeah. He was for. a first and second round pick. I I This. is all news to me. I forgot coaches were. even tradeable. Do you remember the the. one that happened in our childhood that. I was like. that ended up being crazy? Uh. Wait for it. You got it. You got it. >> Wait for it. >> Another Another guy that did TV for a. long time. Bill Cowher. No. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden was famously.

traded from the Oakland Raiders to Tampa. Bay Buccaneers. I did not know that. And. then he went back to the Raiders? He won. a Super Bowl and then at some point went. back. I think it was to the I think the. trade happened before the Super Bowl, which was from Oakland to Tampa Bay. Pretty sure. Are we doing this Are we. doing this podcast by ourselves? Is. anybody listening? He was traded. Sorry, I'm snacking. He was traded to. the Bucs and then met the Raiders in the. Super Bowl. Yeah. It was the year after. But he went back to the Raiders after.

I'm just making sure it was He did. Monday Night Football for like 10 years. and then went back to the Raiders. Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting to see what. happens to Mike T. Hopefully he does. great in TV, which I'm sure he will cuz. he's unbelievable. Charisma, baby. No. doubt. Moving to the divisional round, which one are you pumped to see the. most? Bills at Broncos on CBS. We got. the Niners at the Seahawks up there in. the land of the 12s on Fox. Um and then. Sunday, those are both two Saturday. games. And then Sunday we got Texans. Patriots Rams at Bears on Sunday Night.

Football. Yeah, I mean, the game I'm the. most excited for is the game I'm going. to actually be at, which is going to be. the Texans Patriots game. And I do think. it'll be a game that'll be full of. excitement. I do I'm looking forward to. Maye versus this Texans defense to see. how he responds and how he operates. He's been incredible. He's been poised. It's going to be hard to be poised. against these guys. Two defensive. touchdowns against the Steelers, man. The one that I'm not going to that I am. excited to watch is Chicago versus the. Rams. I think it's going to be an. exciting one. I also just like watching. both those teams play. Like I like Sean.

McVay. I like Ben Johnson. I like. watching all the design. I like Puka. Nacua. I like watching Caleb Williams. I. mean, it's it's it's a lot of things. that will lend itself to just being a. fun game to watch, I'm sure. I'm [ __ ]. pumped on this Bills Broncos game. I'm. so pumped that it's the first one we get. to [ __ ] see. It's going to be on CBS. on Saturday. Josh and Bo Nix kind of. play the game similar in my eyes. You. know, obviously two completely different. athletes. Bo is he's every bit of.

exciting, especially in his early years, because he still hasn't reached that. that pinnacle yet. And he and and this. is an opportunity where he can kind of. start to cement his name among the the. the best quarterbacks in the league, man. I'm [ __ ] I'm excited to see that. match-up. Yeah. That wraps up Bowl. Topics brought to you by Intuit. TurboTax. Don't forget to do your taxes. Let's wrap up this episode with some. stamps of the week. Which is brought to. you by HBO Max. Don't miss the new Game. of Thrones series, A Knight of the Seven.

Kingdoms, premiering this Sunday at. 10:00 p.m. Eastern on HBO Max. And for. my stamp of the week, I'm keeping it in. the family. Going to knock mom? Dude, I'm going mom all day. Did you watch. this? Oh, yeah. Oh, she killed it. SHE MOM WAS DOING GREAT. I MEAN, I KNOW. SHE got eliminated, but I was so proud. of her, man. She looked like she was. having a blast enjoying it all. There. and for all of you that don't know, our. our mother just did Traitors. And she.

was the first ever secret traitor that. the show has ever had. And yeah, showed everybody what she what. she's got. And it was just so cool to. see her in this moment. And shout out to. my guy Ron Funches. for for you know, sticking by her side. and and. kind of got thrown for a loop. It kind. of I'm sure it did. He probably felt a little. a certain way after he found out that. she was the secret traitor. But she she got eliminated.

in the early episodes, but man, it was. just so fun to see her out there living. out her dream. Giving the world a. beautiful message about, you know, being. fortunate enough to to do these things. at her age and and where she is in life. It's just so cool to see her. live in that moment, man. I agree. No, she I thought she would did fantastic. Like I know she was eliminated, but I. think it's it's really hard to go into. those shows as like an outsider. You. become like an easy target to try and.

maneuver in that show. So, I thought mom. did a great job. I loved watching her in. it. I thought she was way more deceitful. and and and devious than I thought mom. could ever be, which Which surprising. >> That, too. She was she stood her ground. at the round table. Oh, yeah. And it was. just it was just so cool to see and. shout out to everybody on this this. Traitors. I'm going to stamp some some. kids cuz who doesn't love stamping kids. that are getting into fisticuffs. together. Let's take a look at this. hockey fight that's been making the. rounds. I don't know if you guys have. seen it 92% ers, but who doesn't love a.

good hockey fight to begin with? >> Oh, look at these kids getting getting. after it in the corner. You you. You messing with my boy? I love this. Come here. OH, THEY GO DOWN. WHERE'S THE. REFS? Once they go to the ground the. refs got to get in there. OH, NO. WHERE ARE THE REFS? THIS IS INSANE. ARE THERE NO REFS ON THE ICE? What. happened? >> That just got to be cleared at this. point. Right. Dude, throwing haymakers. Haymakers. Is anybody using their stick? Good job,

kids. Don't use the stick. I I love how. the goalie came in out of nowhere with. the right hooks. He he seemed like he. was about it the most, man. This is so epic. Doesn't it just take. you back? Yeah, who doesn't love kids. beating the [ __ ] out of each other? I. mean, that's one of the favorite. pastimes of playing a hockey punch. >> Dude, the best part is at at this age. gloves and helmets those punches aren't. [ __ ] doing anything. >> So, for those of you that don't know. what locker boxing is. When we play. hockey, you would literally go in the. locker room, you would put your helmet. on and your gloves, and you would just.

do this for fun. You just beat the [ __ ] out of each. other. Let's go. We're already sweaty from. practice. Let's [ __ ] go. Come out. there with freaking a black eye and. coach is like, "What the hell did you. do?" "Well, we just locker boxing, coach." Anytime a goalie is getting in, you're getting the stamp of the week. Goalie fights are the best. Let's go, baby. Dude, there is something electric. about just getting into a fight. I love. that hockey players just do this. Let's. give the people a show. Let's go. My My. guys need some juice. I need to [ __ ]. I need to throw some hands and you're.

and you're and you're the only one. Dude, this is so epic, man. [ __ ] I love. hockey. And that does it for Stamp of. the Week brought to you by HBO Max. All. righty, let's get into some Jameis. Winston, huh? Famous Jameis. How lucky. are we? Thank you to our presenting sponsor. Reese's. We couldn't be more thrilled to. talk about the new Reese's Oreo Cups. >> That's right. We're two guys who talk a. lot about achieving your dreams. And if. you could put our dreams into a candy. form, it would have probably been those.

delicious Reese's Oreo Cups. Reese's. Oreo Cups deserve to be in the Hall of. Fame for candy. Forget candy Hall of. Fame. Reese's Oreo Cups belong in the. all-time food Hall of Fame, Travis. Step. aside, sliced bread. This is a Reese's Cup with Oreo cookie. crumbs in it. Join us in celebrating. Reese's Oreo Cups by eating them. immediately. Available now everywhere. the best things in the world are sold.

Thank you to our sponsor. Intuit TurboTax. Hey, you know what time. of year it is? What's that? Not just. playoffs. It's tax season. >> Listen, we all know taxes can get super. complicated. It's like trying to decode. a defense's coverage, maybe even more. Sometimes you just need an expert in. your corner. That's why TurboTax full. service experts are game changers. Just. match with a dedicated expert, hand everything off,

and they'll take care of it all for you. from start to finish. This isn't the old. way of doing taxes. Nah-uh, no more. aimlessly searching for help or sitting. in some dusty lobby for 3 hours reading. magazines from 2012 while you're waiting. for your name to be called. Nope, that's. not what we're doing here. With. TurboTax expert full service, you can. connect with your expert on schedule. even on nights and weekends during tax. season. They're pulling in the overtime. so you don't have to and they review. everything to make sure you're getting. every dollar you deserve. All while you.

put that extra time and energy towards. what you actually enjoy. Like. dunking a basketball. I'm trying. Like. playing golf. Yeah, I try. To learn more. and get matched with an expert, visit. turbotax.com. Intuit TurboTax. Now, this. is taxes. Thank you to our partner HBO Max. They've got a brand new Game of Thrones. series dropping called A Knight of the. Seven Kingdoms and it premieres this.

Sunday, January 18th. This incredible. new series follows the unlikely duo of. Sir Dunk the Tall and his scrappy young. squire Egg as they head to prove that. good dudes can still survive in pretty. ruthless world. I'll tell you what, I I. mean, I was a I was a Game of Thrones. fan. I was a Game of Thrones fan. The. Red Wedding, insane. >> Yeah, I love Game of Thrones. It's epic, it's heartfelt, but it's really about. two unlikely heroes on a journey far. away from their throne. This is the next. must-watch chapter in the Game of.

Thrones universe. A Knight of the Seven. Kingdoms premieres Sunday, January 18th. on HBO Max. You're not going to want to. miss it. I guarantee they've done it. right. I mean, it's HBO Max, it's Game. of Thrones. It's going to be epic. There's going to be people dying, people. having sex, people cheating on each. other, people backstabbing each other, conniving individuals, and Sir Dunk the. Tall and dragons. OUR GUEST today is a 6'4 Heisman winning. quarterback from Bessemer, Alabama. He was the first pick in the 2015 NFL.

Draft from Florida State University. He's a Pro Bowler, BCS National. Champion, AND THE GREATEST DUB EATER. WE ARE SO HAPPY AND GRATEFUL THAT THE. Lord has blessed us to be podcasting. with the ONE AND ONLY. YES, THE GREATEST DUB EATER IN THE. WORLD. NO, MAN. I'M I'M GRATEFUL TO BE HERE. WITH Y'ALL, MAN. NAH, just just y'all. aura, y'all essence, and the fact that. y'all y'all are changing cultures and.

generations as brothers, man, united. through y'all y'all work on the field, y'all work off the field, man. It it. it's truly inspiring. So, thank you. Thank you so much. You have inspired the. entire NFL. You are notorious for your. speeches, for your game. It's It's been. It's been so cool to just see your your. career transpire to where you are today. and just see you just like full of life. You know what I mean? This NFL world. could beat you up, man, and you just. keep, you know, fueling everybody with. the energy. and you and I just love it, man. I.

appreciate just who you are as a man. So, thank you for Thank you for jumping. on here, dog. We about to have some fun. though, man. You told us earlier you're. on the NormaTecs, dog. Is the body. feeling good? >> The body is feeling great, man. I just, you know, my one of my one of my OGs. Anquan Boldin, he always said it's. better to stay in shape than get out of. shape than try to get back in it, man. So, I'm always staying on top of my body. ever since he shared that with me. You. got to say. You know that. Y'all both in the. trenches, you know what I'm saying? I. get to sit back and and throw the ball. because of you, Jason. And I get to.

throw the ball to guys like you, So, so y'all in the trenches, so y'all. obviously got to stay on top of y'all. body, but it's the least you can do, man. That 1% every day is so important. I got to ask you, did you catch Wild. Card Weekend this past week? Man, you. know I did. All right. A lot of young quarterbacks. A lot of. lot of young quarterbacks. Who impresses. you or who impressed you the most this. first weekend? Man, I I got to go with. with Drake, you know? It's because like, okay, Josh, Matt, they did it in the.

time where they're supposed to do it. Like, they know when the ball is in. their hand at the end of the game, you. guys are franchise quarterbacks, you. have to come through. But, I just think. the consistency that Drake Maye has. played with this entire year has been. impressive, right? Like, especially like. his his offensive coordinator just got. fired last year, you know? His head. coach, you know, was was they parted. ways a year before and he's coming onto. this tour. Mike Vrabel, I I got a chance. to spend some time with him in. Cleveland, you know, didn't know didn't. know he was from Cleveland. What they.

saw, baby. For him to go there, right, with a young quarterback after the year. that Drake had the the year prior and to. have them in the position that they're. in now, bro, it it's like with all the. cloud the gray clouds that's been around. that that team this year and this. quarterback still shows up and shows. out, man, and and gives that team a. chance to win against a tough defense. now. Like, the LA Chargers is a tough. defense. And like, you know, you see a lot of. young quarterbacks winning like those. those big games where they throw for.

four touchdowns and, you know, but very. very few very rarely are you seeing. quarterbacks of this generation winning. the games where things ain't going right. early. You know what I'm saying? They're play. He's playing four quarters of football, you know? And that's what it's really. about, you know? It ain't just the. splash plays here, splash plays there, but Drake Maye, man, he continues to. impress me. I love it. I love it. I You. You brought something up there I want to. just touch on. You brought up, you know, he's got a new offensive coordinator. How many offensive coordinators have you. played for, James? One, two,

uh four four to five, man. Four to five, maybe six or seven. Six, seven, you know? I need to stop doing. that. A lot, bro. A lot. So, you've been in a. bunch of different systems. Can you tell when an offensive. coordinator is just dealing in a play. call? I know what it feels like in the. run game where it's like, man, it just. feels like it's all clicking. What's. that like as a quarterback? Like, can. you tell during the week it's like, oh, we got some we got some things designed. for these guys coming up? Or is it like.

an in-the-game moment where you're just. like, oh, no, he's rattling them off? >> I think this is the sense. Like, and I. know you guys know this cuz y'all. offensive guys. Like, when we go out there and execute. the first 15, like, okay, we know we got them. Like, we're we're supposed to execute that. Yeah. What what what shows me if we're. really dialing it up is when the coach. pulls something that was installed in. OTAs Yeah. and I'm in a hold I'm just. like, hey, hey, give me all right, you. know, 37 boot, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. >> And it hits. And it's like, oh, yeah. He.

in his bag. Yeah, I KNOW THAT. I KNOW. THAT ONE ON THE INSTALL. YES. SO, AND. AND it's a it's a feel, right? Like you. know when a guy has a feel or if a guy. is just like I'm just calling what's on. his play sheet, right? I'm not I'm not. looking at what the defense is actually. doing. I'm calling what's on the play. sheet and I think one of the best one of. the best play callers that I experienced. was with Sean Payton. And he had this feel because he played. when he played the position. He played. the position. I played with two guys.

that that that played that three three. cuz Sean Can Dorsey and Byron Leftwich. He did this thing in Tampa too. And we had we had some historical year. we had a very historical year there but. back back to Sean and Byron. They they. had the ability to sense what was going. on what what actually was happening in. the game not what we scouted out during. the week, you know, not their tendencies. but they saw what the defense was doing. and they were able to say, okay, I know. what they're doing we're doing this and.

it hits. Yeah. You know, and that's a. beautiful beautiful feeling. as offense. Hell yeah. I could not agree. more. I love you saying you know, ripping a play that isn't on the game. plan you haven't practiced all week but. you it's it's one of those ones you you. you wrapped it in OTAs you you should. know how to do this against every. defense. So I was like, why not? Like if. you think it's there don't waste any. time who the hell cares what's on our. second and 10 play calls like just. freaking rip that one out. >> One thing I always like when I talk to. like office coordinators like. why do you see.

the McVays and people like that that. literally run the Andy Reid that run the. same play over and over again if the. defense can't stop it. Yeah. And then. you have guys where it's like, hey well, we already showed that so did it work? Did that play just work? Yeah. >> So we're saying in this one game this. this is the only time we get to run this. play against this team because we know. we ain't going to carry it over the next. week because you're saying we already. ran it once. Yeah. Like why not run the. multiple the play that's been working.

for us? I hear you. You know, and and I. think as an offensive coordinator I. you know, I got a lot of respect for. them for them to to to to have that much. confidence in their bag. that they don't want to run the play. that that just just worked. >> I got to ask you on the flip side though. if you ever you ever been in the huddle. and you just hear a play call and you. just know like, man, I don't know about. this one, man. It's a pretty big down right here in the. game, man. I don't know. I can't hear. you. I can't hear you. All right, boys. This is what we're going to. They have.

those moments have came up but like I'm. I'm a persuasive person. You know how. you got those people that that they. wrote the they they they write the. narratives, you know, they write the. persuasive essays. They wrote the they. wrote the derogatory I'm a persuasive. essay writer. Okay. So when a play is. being called into me even if it sounds. like straight poo. I got to make it sound good to everybody. else. You got to. You know what I'm. saying? Because I'm one of those guys. like I'm I'm a believer in like I'm. obsessed with it like, okay, we put in. the work like I if the play is poo I get.

it. I'll come to the sidelines and be. like, please don't call THAT AGAIN. YOU CALL IT LIKE I'M GOING TO FIND A WAY. TO execute this play. You got to. We. ain't got no other way, yeah. It's been. numerous eclipses that I've seen you, Jason. have to change your protection like oh. no way. There ain't no way we slide away. from this guy right here. And it's been thousands of eclipses. where I've seen you, Travis, know your. left post to have a simple sale route. and what you do? You feel zone and you. just run it up there.

You you in the same page, right? You. know, but but that's what it is. It's. it's not just capability it's the capa. the capacity to know like this is the. right thing to do. Like I I I know what. I'm what I'm going to get here so I'm. capable and I got the capacity enough of. the work that I put in that I'm going to. make the right decision. I'm a I'm going. to help this coach be a better coach. I'm just doing whatever you want me to. do, James. That's all I'm doing. I'm. there I see it I'm seeing it with you. I. know you want me to hook it up right.

there. I know you want me to hook it up. right there. I love it. And that's why that's why you. win. That's why you win a lot. Speaking of your old coach Sean Payton. him and Bo Nix are rolling right now, man. They're rolling right now. They got. the Bills coming in hot. Now watching. Sean Payton's offense this year I don't. know if you've seen a lot of it on on. film and just been peeking at what they. got going on over there in Denver but. can you see similarities and stuff he's. transferred over or is this like a whole. new world because Bo Nix is he's just a.

different type of quarterback. >> Well, Bo Bo Bo is from Alabama so I got. a lot of respect for him and he can do. it all, right? But but Sean has really. been in his bag this year, man. Like the. the amount of plays that he's been able. to move the pocket for Bo, the amount of. yards that they've been able to create. on the perimeter by just getting the. ball out of Bo's hand and and letting. the receivers get yak after that. Sean. is a situational guru and I have to. commend Bo on this. Bo probably hasn't. had the most efficient first, second and.

third quarter this year. He had he was. way more efficient last year. as as a rook. But in the fourth quarter. he and Sean Payton have been finding. ways to win the freaking game and I. think that is what and that's what I'm. talking about these young quarterbacks. with Bo and Drake May like, yeah, okay, you can win the game where you could. tell like people put the quarterbacks. game managers, right? Like but at the. end of the day. when it's third and seven. and you know the defense is going to be.

in man, right? You still have to make. the throw. Like it it it's not going to be, oh, you. managed the game like just check the. ball here. No, you still have to make. the play and Bo Nix have been making the. plays for the Denver Broncos to win. games. >> You're speak bro, you're speaking truth. to me right now. >> got on rants about this already. Well. well, not even just like Bo Nix and. Drake but Caleb last week, right? Against the Packers. Why does a. quarterback all of a sudden become more. accurate on harder throw I want to ask. you this. Why is a quarterback all of a. sudden more accurate on harder throws?

Is there like a sense of like I know I. got to put this in. and you like lock in more or is it just. like that's the way this guy's wired? It's the Razzle Dazzle air effect, right? Like some quarterbacks I would. say this Sam Bradford was the most. accurate quarterback I ever seen in my. life. Okay. All right. Here we go. >> Seven on seven there were there was not. you were there with him. Oh, yeah. There. was there was not a ball that touched. the ground. Yes. Yes. But once you get. into a game like the anticipa the. anticipatory throw throw that you making.

with pressure in your face, unorthodox. movements I think Patrick is a lead at. this. Being able to throw the ball and. be accurate from a a different angle. that's just God-given talent. And that's. just that it factor that Caleb Williams. possesses where like he likes chaos more. than he likes stillness and peace. Yeah, that's what it looks like. No no. seriously I think No seriously it's like. boring to him. Like he's got all right, I got a comeback route and then all of a. sudden he sails it but then all of a. sudden he's running to his left on. fourth down AND HE PUTS THE BALL IN LIKE.

A FREAKING four by four window down the. field. It's insane. It's no thinking. it's no thinking to that, right? When a. guy is wide open, man, we have to think. like, oh my goodness, I can't miss this. Oh, it's too late. Yeah. You know, but. when but when it's fourth down that. fourth and eight throw that he makes. moving to the left I have no I have no. other choice. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO SO IT it is. either going to look amazing. or it's going to look bad. You know? And and I I ironically like he's made.

these plays against a similar opponent, right? Because at the at the end of the. season when they played Green Bay and. his fourth quarter was amazing. Like. it's just something to. a quarterback being able to not turn it. on but fall back into their training. I. have to ask you this, man. It takes it. takes guys to have. the most ridiculous back story, the one. of the best careers ever to get a 30 for. 30. like in their in their 50s when it's all.

said and done and everybody's looking. back you literally have a 30 for 30. 30 times and 30 How crazy was that year. and the roller coaster ups and downs? You were out there firing it, man. >> Well, Travis, bro, again I had a. coordinator right? Byron Leftwich and. and and one Bruce Arians we go way back, bro. I'm talking about like little. league football not little league but. like middle school football like he used. to have these camps in Birmingham, Alabama, right? Because his son was a.

kicker at UAB. UAB in Birmingham. You I think. Cincinnati played against them. Okay. He used to have these camps so I knew. Bruce and I knew his mentality of the. you know, the the no risk no biscuit. Oh, risk and no biscuit. And and bro and. like and I I took that because I love. Bruce. I took that to heart, bro. Like. so I was going I got Mike Evans. I got. Chris Godwin. I had a young OJ. Like we. going to let this ride. Like we got too. much talent to to be holding on to the. football, you know. Unfortunately, the. ball ended up in the defense's hands too. much.

You know, and and and you know, that. still sit with me but you know, that was. a contract year for me, man. And that. was one of the most up and down years. off the field that I had in my life too, man. I just I just asked my wife to to. marry me, man. And I'm I was I was doing. this freaking celibacy thing like. literally. refraining from sex, man. Bro, I bought. like like my my parents were talking to. me about shacking like in in in the. south shacking is like when you living. with with your significant other, you. know, in the house and we had to. eliminate that, bro. I literally bought.

a property and stayed away you know, from my from my house. You know what I'm. saying? Like we were Man, it was so much going on, bro. Don't take. a black light into that house, you know, then. It was it was the first year and. you guys you guys know it was the first. year in my life that my dad my dad. wasn't coming to any of my football. games, bro. His brother my uncle had. passed. He was going through some things. with COVID and my grandmother passed a. year before. So he was my My was dealing.

with some things, man. So just. spiritually of the the family like we. just were going going through it and I. was having a great game or I was having, you know, a not so great game. And and. and it was coincided with what was. happening off the field. And that's why. when I talk to these young athletes, I. ask them like, man, what are you. consistently doing outside of the. building, too? Because if you are. consistently being up and down outside. of the building, it's going to trans it's going to come.

on the field. It's going to come a time. and a place where and the players we can. see our teammates can see it better than. anybody. You can see when somebody is locked in. and when somebody is going through. something. And and I'm I'm the person. where like I'm obsessed with it. So, I'm. overly locked in. I'm trying to go. overboard. I'm trying to make the every. throw because of what I'm dealing with. off the field as well. I got a I got my. first. coordinator that's played played the. game like played by the left with me.

And he dice he dialing it up. He's doing. his thing, man. We I mean we we we broke. records, right? And I'm trying to impress him. I got. Bruce Arians, a guy that that showed me. my very first Super Bowl ring, right? And I'm I'm doing everything that he's. telling me to do, right? And I. like I tell everybody like, man, go back. and check the tape. I told them at the. end of check the tape. See how many No, see how many of those interceptions was. really like joint joint efforts. >> We were installing a lot of those plays. in Philly. We were watching a lot of.

James Winston that year cuz like, man, look at this dude is doing down here. You know what I We were electric, right? We were electric. And and obviously. everyone knows like, okay, offensively. what we we got to take the most of make. the most of our possessions, right? Because it hurts everybody. It hurts. everybody offense align when we drive. the ball down the field and boom, you. throw a pick. The thing is about this, interceptions do do hurt, right? But how. we were growing as a as a team was so. inspiring to see. Our defense Our. defense wasn't like out at the beginning.

of the year. But toward the end of the. year they just like, hey James, I got. your back. Like we got you. We know you. going to let it fly. Like we got your. back. I'mma go get you one, Jay. You know what. I'm saying? Carlton Davis like, okay, I'll lock it down. Like that started to. happen. And then you know, boom poop. they get Tom Brady they win the Super. Bowl next year. It was going to happen. with me, but they decided to get Tom. Brady to make it seem like it was him. that did it. You know WHAT I'M SAYING? AND GRONK AND AB AND LEONARD Fournette. and Tristan Worf I I'm I'm going to.

stop. The team really was a super team. You brought up advice you have for young. quarterbacks. You're with a young. quarterback right now in New York. What's it been like operating with with. Jackson Dart in in your role within the. Giants? You're obviously you're doing. great. You're in the player engagement. room right now. Like what. I love this. Talk about commitment. We're like what? Three weeks into the. OFF-SEASON AND MOST PEOPLE ARE WHAT? HAWAII RIGHT NOW. MY MAN'S IN THE. FREAKING player engagement room. But. it's the vision. okay, like, man, I didn't had a lot of short. seasons, right? I've only been in the.

playoffs once. You know what I'm saying? But through. this entire reign I'm just like, man, like what can I do from an obsessive. state to stay engaged? Like I'mma keep. training. I'mma keep preparing. Like I. want to play I want to play and win in. the Super Bowl. I hear you. Yeah. So, I'm not going to be out the building and. I'm not taking the trips to Cabo like. right after the season. You know what. I'm saying? If someone if somebody got a. job for me to go. You know, but like I'm like, bro, like I. I love this. Like it's still football.

season. Do you know how painful it is in. in in Travis you you you you you got to. deal with this. year because it's been a long time since. you and Jason you dealt with a a lot, you know, last year of you, you know, deciding to to stop playing. How when. you put in everything, man, and you. start from OTAs and like you know these. teams have a one-year lifespan. And then. just out of nowhere everything just. stops. The preparation, the sweat. equity, the the the the the. togetherness, it just stops, man.

So, that that hurts. So, I try I try my. best to just try to do as much as I can. with what I have and assimilate me. preparing for the Super Bowl. But let's. talk about Jackson Dart, man. Come on. now. You know. You know when a dog walk in the room. You know what I'm saying? What I'm. saying? Yes. know when a dog walk in the. room, man. And since since he first when. he first stepped foot in this building, man, he's been a dog, you know? And I. just really value like his work ethic. Like yeah yeah I wish I could have seen.

just the the sweat equity he was putting. in with Brian Daboll. And you know, I. know Dave got fired, man, but like those. guys were tied at the hip. Like because. he he is obsessed with football. >> That's awesome. And anybody that's. coming in to be our head coach, you got. to know that you got a guy that wants to. win. He's going to win because he he's. special. But he's obsessed in this. in this day and age, man, you got people. that are more. they they're more worried about what. they get from football than focus on. what they can do for football. Yeah. You.

know what I'm saying? You know like it's. that that old J JFK quote, you know what. I'm saying? That's not Ask not what what. you what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Yeah. That's the type of kid he is. Like. his his family he comes from is just a. great wholesome family, man. He just he. loves football. He's a dog. I'm just. trying to work with him about calculated. risk because he'll run over safety Oh. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah. You already know. You see those. collisions, man. Look, linebackers and.

D-linemen. Look, we're not talking no. smack to no D-linemen. cuz your offense line got to pay for. that. And we're not trying to run over. no linebackers unless it's four fourth. down or the end zone. Can't take them on. thick. You got to roll. You got to roll. a little bit when you hit them. You. can't just take them on straight. You. got to [ __ ] you got to jack up your. AC joints, man. >> But I'd rather I'd rather I'd rather a. young quarterback be bout it than be. scared. For sure. >> see him go. You know what I'm saying? Dude, there was I'm so glad you said it. I don't want to talk trash to the D-line. cuz that offense line got to feel that.

I still remember getting ready for an. NFC Championship game and my man Brandon. Graham's in there and he's talking so. much trash to Dexter Lawrence. I'm like, bro, will you shut the hell up? I got TO. DO THAT. I'M TRYING TO WRAP THIS DUDE UP. WHAT. ARE YOU DOING OVER HERE, BG? RIGHT. I'm. riding with my dog, but I got to ask you. this. You you just said your goal is to. win a Super Bowl. What what is what what. are you doing to realize that goal? What. is what's it going to take for James. Winston to get to a Super Bowl? Obviously there's the team and all that. stuff, but everything that you can.

control, what are you doing? Yeah, the. the the biggest thing that I'm doing is. speaking life into my teammates, right? Because a lot of these young young guys, new generation guys, they they look for. affirmations and stuff that that let. them know that okay, like they're. I'm I'm where I belong. Reassurance, man. And that's a that's the simple. thing I'm doing as being impeccable with. my word, right? Because it starts with. it starts with one. It starts with a. plan, right? And my plan is to be. impeccable with my word, be a man of. increase in the building so everybody. can attract that. And then they go out.

and do what I do on the field. Right. The second thing is just me me doing. what I love. I love playing football, man. Me going out there and working, you. know? And and and hopefully. they see me working when I invite them. to come get some of this extra work for. for the betterment of both of us, they. join me, right? And that starts with. just culture. Like we're building that. we're going to go the extra mile. We're. building that we're willing and able to. do anything, you know, for some success, right? And the third the third thing was. really should be the first thing is just.

instilling faith into my teammates, man, that like they here for a reason. Like. this ain't no coincidence that they. here. It's so challenging to see these. confident moxie young athletes just not. really believe. not believe in something that's bigger. than them, man. Amen. You know, and and. and and those are the those are that's. just what I take pride in because I know. how it is to be trying to please a man, trying to please somebody else, man. But. it is nothing that competes with knowing.

that I fight from victory and not for. victory for what God and what what. Christ has did for me, right? And me. instilling just those kingdom values, kingdom morals in them, it's going to at. least help them be a better man when. they get off the field. And one thing my. trainer always say, you know, being a. better football player will never make. you a better man, but being a better man. will make you a better football player. So, that is what that's what my impact. is. You're going right into coaching, James. You got too many in the bag. You.

got too MANY IN THE YOU GOT TOO MANY in. the bag, man. You got too many. >> YOU GOT ME WANTING TO GO STRAPPING BACK. UP RIGHT NOW. BUT IT'S SWEAT EQUITY. Like you you put. in that sweat equity, man. You know what. it is to win Super Bowls. You guys are. Super Bowl champions and you know it's. those little things. Like I I haven't. been privileged to be a part of that. You know what I'm saying? But y'all. have. So, y'all know that 1% that you. put in. Like my question is to y'all is. like, how do you how do you continue to. like reciprocate that? How do how do you. allow that message to just have a great.

vibrational frequency and not be stopped. by by people with with that that don't. have that mindset because every year you. you guys done it on multiple teams. So, you've done it with new guys. It's not. like college where you got dynasties and. all this stuff. You guys have found a. way to win with multiple guys. So, how. do y'all what's y'all's approach for. welcoming and inviting other people that. don't have the mentality that you have, is not cut from the same cloth as you. and transforming them into being Super. Bowl champions? Man.

You want to start with it, Travis? I. think you've already hit everything that. that I could even, you know, bring to. the table is you just got to you got to. show everybody you love this [ __ ] man. And you got to show it every single day. by your attention to detail, by how you. show up to work. Your energy when you. walk in the building is my hood on or is. my hood off and I'm ready to rock and. roll and I'm I'm looking everybody in. the eyes and I'm like, you ready to get. this [ __ ] You ready to to see this. install? You ready to get after it. today? Um and just having that sense of. urgency and that integrity to come in to. do something that you absolutely love.

And, you know, not everybody plays the. game for the same reason. I understand. that, but when you show up with that. integrity and that and that work ethic, like. it's uh it stay in true more than not. that uh that guys will fight will find. that as uh as as something they want to. be a part of. And they'll see how how. you're doing and they'll they'll they'll. look themselves in the mirror and want. to do even more, you know? Um, and. that's really the the the biggest thing. is setting that culture from the top. down, man. Making sure that everybody's. doing that. uh from from, you know, the coaches to.

the players to the first guy on the or. the the guys that are on the field to. the guys that are on the practice squad. Everybody's Everybody's got to have that. love and desire every single time and. and alertness and the attention to. details they walk into the building, man. Thank you to our sponsor, Liquid I.V. >> It's no secret that we have insanely. busy schedules uh between podcasting uh. game days, workouts, meetings, family. events, uh sitting on the couch. There's. never enough hours in the day to get all.

done. And trying to stay on top of your. game when you're running on empty, that's rough. I can attest to that. That. is where I'm at right now. >> Liquid I.V. is here to save the day, Jason, with their energy multiplier. It's got eight essential vitamins and. nutrients and three times the. electrolytes as a regular sports drink. to support physical energy, hydration, focus, mood, stamina. This is. This is literally made for you, Jason. Yeah, and you can keep the packets in. your car, your bag, anywhere you might.

need them for a little extra boost. One. stick in 16 oz of water hydrates better. than water alone. >> This sugar-free hydration energy mix is. a game-changer uh. for your packed days. And uh there's. different flavors to choose from like. sugar-free blackberry lemonade. Mm, a. little guava pomegranate, molar. strawberry kiwi, which I'm always in on. All these flavors sound incredible. Tear, pour, live more. Head to. liquidiv.com and get 20% off your first. order with code newhides at checkout.

Thank you to our partner, Planet. Fitness. Oh, yeah, baby. We're getting. in shape. >> All righty, we're always talking about. staying in shape no matter what time of. year it is. Uh although it is very hard. sometimes around the holidays and. football season as I am clearly showing, but finding the right gym shouldn't be. harder than the actual workout. There. you go. That's why we're excited to. partner with Planet Fitness. Planet. Fitness has the uh optionality and uh. best-in-class equipment gym-goers dream.

of. With functional training areas, treadmills, stair climbers, free. weights, plate-loaded strength machines, and more, they have everything you need. to get after it. And with over 2,800. locations, there's probably one right. around the corner from you. And get. this, memberships start at just $15 a. month and most clubs are open 24 hours. So, whether you're an early bird or. night owl, you can get the workout in. with your schedule. Join the club today. In person, online, or on the free Planet.

Fitness app. Planet Fitness, we're all. strong on this planet. Thank you to our. sponsor, Allstate. Checking Allstate. first could save you hundreds on car. insurance. That's smart. Mm. Not. checking the delivery address before. ordering dinner? Not smart. >> Can't tell how many times I've sent food. to the wrong place. Yeah, checking first. is smart. So, check Allstate first for a. quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate.

Potential savings vary. Subject to. terms, conditions, and availability. Allstate North American Insurance. Company and affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois. All right, now. We've been talking about some dogs. You. got another dog in New York, Cam Akers. The other side of the one-bred right. there, man. You got to tell us about. this guy, man. The world doesn't know. enough about him yet. >> Let me tell you something, man. Uh look, I was uh. and this is going to be a perfect. example for this. But Cam it is. Do.

y'all know where Cam's from? No. >> Cam's from. >> I feel like Cam. Go ahead. >> Arizona? Cam is from Sacramento, California. What? Okay, there we go. There we. >> in the world I don't know why. think. that this man is from Sacramento, California. >> the connection, yeah. And that that. puzzling that y'all had in y'all eyes is. exactly how I was puzzled when I saw. him. Man, when I tell you look, so I was. watching Lilo and Stitch with the kids, right? And you know how like Lilo is in. this other land,

but you know, he steals the ship to. escape that land because he about to go. to prison or whatever, and he just finds. his way on the earth. >> Uh-huh. That's where Cam Akers is. He is. from He is from a football kingdom. somewhere else. And it somebody just. dropped his crazy ass on earth. >> good, man. And said, "Go run that pill.". Because that is how that is how he. plays, man. He plays with a passion and. a desire to kill, to hunt. And what you.

bro, like this what got me. So, I told I. told Akers, you know, I was one of them. we had these conversations cuz you know, we had Russ in the room and and and. Jackson, he's young. He just bless him. He said, you know, Cam, you know, Akers. about the same size size as Marshawn. Lynch. And Russ Russ Russ gave Russ gave. him a little. HE SAID. >> HE SAID He said He said Marshawn's size. the same size AS CAM AKERS. LISTEN, AND I I I DOUBLED DOWN. I was. like, yeah. I was like, Jackson, I don't. know if he Come on now, you can't just.

say Cam to be small. Like he he tough. though. He tough, but come on, he ain't. the same size. Man, when he played when. we played against Kansas City. and him and Nick Bolton met in that. hole, and you know, Bolton built like a. refrigerator truck. You know what I'm saying? He is He is. grounded. He is put together. He strong. And when he ran over Nick Bolton in that. hole, I said, "Okay, this white boy. right here is something serious.". I said, "He right here. He is something. serious." I don't know if he ran him.

over, but He took it away. I got I got. to ask about it. Like it was it was it was a statement. where I was just like, man, he's. fearless. You know, and and immediately, you know, people start giving him names. Peyton Ellis, Mike Alstott. You know. what I'm saying? THEY WHITEWASHING IT. MAN, HE IS TOTING that pill. I I said. not the size, but like Earl Campbell, man, he putting his head in there, man. two guys, man. Like Bo Jackson, like he. don't got the speed like Bo. But I'm. just saying, man, he is putting his head.

down and falling forward, bro. Like and. Jason, you you respect this. It's a. difference when a running back can give. you three. and when a running back can make three. turn into seven. That's big time, man. Because you know in the fourth quarter. that seven going to turn into 12. And. that 12 is going to eventually be a. breakout run for us to to really step on. their neck. And that is what he gave us. And I honestly, y'all talked about. Jackson and we talked about the hits he. took. But having a running back like.

that is what took some of those hits off. of Jackson. Because Jackson felt that he had to. bring that to the team. Yeah. But that's. what Cam was for this team. He was that. enforcer. A young enforcer that was. confident. Like one of the funniest. stories, man, like so. against the Eagles when they was wearing. the Kelly green. I love that Kelly. green. Oh my god, it's one of the most. beautiful jerseys in the world. Woo. Okay. When you be playing against the Eagles. and he runs with choice routes, man, and. he he gets right with uh Zach Pascal on.

his ankle and he fractures his ankle. Man, Greg Van Roten is out there trying. to help him up. And he said Akers was He like, "Help me. up.". He like, "Help me up." He like he like, "I don't think so. Like your ankle is. going" He said, "But the the guy I just. Help me up. I I got it." Like and that's. the toughness that he possesses, man. >> Man. So, he is from a a different. planet, bro, with his with his passion, his enthusiasm, and really his his love. for football, y'all. It's crazy. It. oozes out of him, man. >> One more thing from this past year, um.

you kind of did your best version of a. tight end impersonation here this. season. Can we pull up this clip? Can we. pull up this highlight? What's going on. in your head when this play gets called. in? When you're running it? Like give us. the start to start to finish. >> So, the start to finish was I just hope. he'd give me a chance, you know what I'm. saying? When they talk about giving. giving number one receivers and number. one tight ends the ball, all you got to. do is give them a chance. >> No risk it, no biscuit, baby. >> And when we see this. double reverse pass, when I when I toss.

him this pill, I'm just like, man, I. know I'm about to score a touchdown. Like I've been waiting on this moment my. whole life. And as I run down that. sideline, I throw my hand up. >> Oh, he ran him over, Stone. And that is. called attacking the football. And that's called wrap. With the filet. at the end. It's incredible. It's incredible. >> Oh my god, man. I was waiting for that. moment, you know what I'm saying? Hey, that was good eyes by that by that. D-lineman. He was a linebacker, but he. can't guard me. Nah, he can't tackle. you, either. Oh, man, that was [ __ ] electric, man.

I I I wish I was the uh the the. commentator, the media person to ask, you know, the defense the defensive. coordinator about, you know, "Hey, coach, you know, what what what do you. think when uh the the New York Football. Giants did that uh wide receiver pass?". And well, you know, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK. PULL. PULL. PULL A PULL A ROCK ON THEM, you know. what I'm saying? Just let them know it. don't matter. Oh my god, Stone. Man, did. you know where the camera was? Did you. feel the camera over there? It is pure. cinema. It is It is It is one of my.

favorite clips of all time, man. Cuz you. definitely don't expect you to be able. to make a play come back to the ball. Then you give them the ha ha. in the field, shake them, get them off you, come into. the end zone, finger roll, get excited. with the teammates, and then just. turn right into the a. Stone. Every time I watch it. I got I. got the confirmation from my boy in. Detroit, Devin Funchess. He from. Detroit. Shout out, yeah, D. Funchess. I.

said, "Hey, man, like when. when I score a touchdown, like I really. want to hit a dance." And he said, "You. know what would kill Detroit?" He said, "Do the boss up on them." Boss up. I. said, "All right." So, in the night. meal, I'm talking to we got Nick Jones. who played for Kansas City, who's also. from from Detroit. >> Oh, yeah. He done bought everybody some. wings right from Detroit this wing spot. So, I'm I'm I'm chewing on some wings, you know. I said, "Hey, Nick." He said, "Yeah." I. said, "Man, what about this dance, right. here? When I score a touchdown tomorrow, I'm going to do this dance." So, I show.

him the dance. And he said, "Oh, yeah.". He said, "Yeah, the city really going to. love that.". So, I had to. I had to put on for the city, man. I was. grateful for that. God damn, dude. That. [ __ ] was epic, man. Appreciate y'all. I. got to ask you, as a as an Eagle, you. played us twice this year. Season just. ended. A lot of questions about the. offense. What what I mean, I know you. didn't probably watch a lot of Eagles. offense. What what did you see? Okay. All right. Well, well, well, the the the main thing. that I that I saw. was we can talk about simplicity in.

offense. We can talk about all that. stuff. But, Jalen Hurts, he finds a way. to win games. And the running game. wasn't as prolific as it was last year. Right? Ja- Jalen didn't use his legs as. much as he did, you know, in the years. prior, you know, when you went deep into. the playoffs. So, it it's that balance. of okay, we know Jalen he likes to he. likes space, he likes things being open. Like, but how can we put him in the best. position for him as well, right? Like, how can we protect him, right? Because. you need your quarterback. But, also use.

the gifts that he has. And and and one. one one of those gifts is his legs. And. I just don't think that that catered. enough to him. Because I feel like that. balance between having to stop Jalen. Hurts and stop Saquon Barkley was it was. tough. Right? But, I don't think. defenses really feared that this year. They knew they were like, "Okay, they're. going to try to protect Jalen." Like, I. and I don't know I have to talk to. Jalen. I don't know if he was dealing. with a injury or anything, you know, but. I just feel like y'all dominated the. trenches. Really, pass pass blocking. wise, y'all still that offensive line.

still is among the top in terms of pass. blocking. But, in terms of running game, your your your running game was not as. as prominent as it has been in the past. And I think it starts like, you know. this, Travis, but because Andy is. adamant about establishing a run game. Yes, y'all do everything with quick. games and. Exactly. He depends on that run game. because that that's what takes the wheel. of a defense. And I just think that. offensively, the Eagles didn't have that. that factor where they are going to.

finish games with the run. They did it. against us. Tank Tank Bigsby, he had a. great day. But, when when when when. crunch time came when when you when the. Eagles are up, like it should be a win. Especially in the fourth quarter. Because they can run the football. Y'all weren't able to run the football. as as effectively. Yeah. And and another. thing, man, like and I love A.J. and I. love Jalen. You know, but it's it is it is kind of. it it's a beautiful thing to see Jalen. DeVonta.

what they do outside of the numbers. Because you know it's either a go or a. stop. And if it's second and short, it's. going to be a slant. Like, it's a three. route. minimum. Three route minimum that. they're doing. And the execution that. they have in those clutch moments, it. has to be above 90%. Like, I'm not. throwing 50 50 balls to to A.J. Brown. I'm throwing 90 10 balls to A.J. Brown. I'm not throwing 50 50 balls to DeVonta. Smith. I'm throwing 90 10 Like, you. know, Travis, you know this. When it's.

when it's crunch time, all of us together, no matter no matter. the the the the the angst that we have. with each other, all of us have to. produce when our team need us to. produce. >> Yeah. It ain't about who who who getting. targets, but the defense know what we. going to do. We know what we're going to. do. >> Oh, yeah. And last year, again, y'all. executed it on those one-on-one. opportunities on the outside. Right? So, so I I don't think it's rocket science, right? Like, one thing about about. Jalen, we talk about me and a lot of. offensive coordinators. Like, Jalen. hasn't had continuity and I know it's.

probably the same scheme, but he hasn't. had the same voice for a a a a a year. like for a multiple years in a long. time. And that's challenging as a. quarterback to to to get different. culture points, to get a different word. Like, when you don't have that. discipline when you are a disciplined. quarterback and Jalen's very. disciplined. He stay straight and. narrow. For you to have different voices every. year when you're trying to lead a team. to the promised land, it's challenging, man. It's so challenging. I think you're.

you're hitting on the head, man, cuz I. remember the last year. and the run game was Saquon obviously. 2,000 yard rusher. I mean, you can't. substitute that if but teams are going. to adjust. Teams are going to adjust to. how you're playing them and or how you. how effective you are with it, but I. remember in the Super Bowl, man, it even. when we were trying to claw back and. have any any chance there in the second. quarter or the third quarter, man, we. get it in a in a in a third and medium. third and long, and he would use his. legs. And it wouldn't just be for for a.

first down, it'd be for a huge gain and. all of a sudden they're explosive. they're in they're in a opportunity to. to kick a field goal and we just had. them on a third and. third and manageable and you know, in. their own territory. So, it's just being. able to I don't know, just him being. able to use his legs is. is night and day, man. It's a happy. balance, right? Like, there are calls. where the quarterback moves the pocket. He has a lot of those. >> A lot of them. Where he's moving where. he's moving the pocket, right? Where. he's putting the defense like because if.

you pressure him, you got to risk that. we're moving the pocket and you're. pressing in a in the area that's. vacated. >> Yeah. Right? And if we play zone, now. it's the two edge story. Now, he could. beat us with our with our legs. And God. forbid you play man, now our back is. turned against them, right? Like, I. believe like it's some creativity that. can be that can help Jalen. perfect his craft, man, because he is an. elite talent. Like, you see the. accuracy. You see the the ability to win. the tough game and the big game. But,

now he needs continuity for once. Like, every great quarterback done had. continuity. Like, you can't tell me a. quarterback that's been freaking, you. know, flip flipping OCs. That's what he doing. He flipping OCs like real estate. properties. You know what I'm saying? Like, like it. has to be important for the organization. and for him to have a similar voice, man. I I don't think it's fair for him, you know, Jalen in terms of his. quarterback. And I know he's okay with. it. Like, nothing phases him. You know,

he's a very disciplined and structured. guy. But, from from an outside looking. in, I you know, I told you this, Jason. You know, I grew up an Eagles fan. So, I'm rooting for for the city of. brotherly love to win, you know what I'm. saying? And not when they play against. us, you know, with the Giants. But, outside of that, to win, right? And and. for their quarterback, for this to be. their franchise guy, like you have to. make an effort into at least catering to. his needs. And and I think one thing. that's required is for him to have a. consistent voice that he wants, that he. loves, that allows him to be in his.

element. >> everything you're saying right there, man. I really do. And I agree with it. I. really do. I The one thing you brought. up, man, like the. even it's not even just the. like the new play caller and getting a. feel for that. It's just the verbage, too. Like, I have was so lucky to have Stout. for a long time. I would like we like we're on like our. third different head coach. And I'd be. calling a blitz what we called it with. Chip Kelly. Mhm. But, because we knew. what it was, like I'd be on the Hey, they're bringing uh they're bringing.

wasp, right? Yeah. And like the other. coaches like, "What the hell you talking. about?" And Stout's like, "Oh, he's. talking about the free safety." We like. Will free safety, yeah. A lot of that. gets like homogenized in your brain. And for a guy like Jalen, like in the. moment, like even just communicating. with guys, communicating with your. teammates, that's hard when the verbage. is changing constantly. I've never. thought about that, but it was hard for. me. So, I'm I know it's hard for him. He's been through it a lot. >> One thing I want to ask you because I. think that's a great point because. obviously, Travis, like you you you. reached that pinnacle and you still. going. It's crazy how how you freaking.

still turning up. >> My verbage has been the same since I've. been in Kansas City. I don't know what you guys are talking. about. I experienced it one time in one. of the Pro Bowls I played in. I had to. go in there and learn a whole new. offense. I'm like, bro, I'm not running. any of these routes. I'm just going to. see whatever coverage there is. Mac. Jones was throwing me daggers that I was. supposed to be running. I'm running go. routes. But, but to to that point, Jason, you've. experienced. three like what? You had three different. head coaches? Four. Four different head.

coaches. So, you know. what a head coach looks like. Yeah. You. know what I'm saying? And for us, for. the Giants, us being in this position. that we in, like. like some people aren't blessed with. having a head coach for the majority of. their career. You know, some people have. different regime changes. But, you won. two Super Bowls with two different head. coaches. Yeah. What are those key. qualities of a leader in a head coach. that teams should be looking for.

to win football games? Because that's. what we're all after. >> Yeah. We all we all because I This is. this is my my perspective. My. perspective is like hey like we're all. self policing. Like, it's our team, right? Like, no no crap. We we're the. ones out there doing it. Sure. Right? But, like what does these men or what. does your team have that that kind of. makes up for a head coach or what does. that head coach have that allows a. veteran guy a veteran. person to your status that is that is.

has a foundation that is established in. his role. What makes him want to follow. a new coach coming in? That's a good. question. Man, I think I was really fortunate in. Philadelphia. Although we had a lot of. coaching changes, we had a great locker. room and a great building and Jeffrey. Lurie, Howie Roseman, it all started. with Andy Reid, really. And. I learned from you Brent Celek, all. these players before me and there's a.

sense of unity and like a honestly. because I was drafted to Philly an. unrealistic. like idea of. loyalty from the organization. I never. got cut. I never went to another. organization. I was only in this one and. I think between me, Lane Johnson was. that way, Fletcher Cox was that way, Brandon Graham was that way. Philadelphia even through the changes, they do a great job of retaining pieces. Like Jeff Stoutland, we I I had four. different head coaches. I only had two.

offensive line coaches. That's rare that. offensive line coach stays through head. coaches. It's rare that Duce Staley. stays. Mhm. I think the organization. does a great job of keeping pieces so. Philadelphia's always had this like. tight like mindset and like the locker. room and it that has always been well. established and then when a coach comes. in with some fresh ideas, a lot of. energy, a moxie to them and he's surrounded with. other great coaches and you already know.

how he's going to build like. I mean when the Eagles won the Super. Bowl, we had some pretty damn good. players. Like that's the reality of it. and the coaches. Doug was a player so he knew how to. navigate especially like older players. who knew what they were doing. He was. great in top of building that energy and. that motivation infusing belief. and then on with Nick, it's the same. way. We didn't win one with Nick, we. went to one with Nick, he won one last. year. Nick is very good, one of the best at.

coaching in the team meeting. A lot of. times I get into the team meeting and. I'm like, man, what are we going to talk. about today? What's going to happen? Nick is so good at maximizing and. communicating to the team, situational. ball, little stories that I feel like. sometimes are made up, probably a lot of. times are made up but they. but they get you going. They get the. juices flowing. They set your mindset. right. At the end of the day, you still. need the players, you need great. coordinators, you need a great. quarterback. but I think that between Nick and Doug,

both of those guys were really, really. good at talking to the team, at. spreading the message, at communicating. with players, right? Doug used to have. the the player council meeting so all. the leaders would go and talk to the. head coach. Like I think you get a good pulse for. the team cuz really as a head coach, what I want to see is a guy that is just. I want to see a guy that he wants the. best for me and the best for us and he's. maximizing everything he can to get the. best out of me. And that can come away.

like whether you're a player's coach, whether you're you're MFing me. I don't. care if you're MFing me if you got my. best interests at heart. Like you want. the best for me, I get it. I'm right. here. But if I feel like you're MFing me. because there's some ulterior motive for. you selfishly, [ __ ] me, NO, [ __ ] YOU. OH, YEAH, YEAH. OH, YOU WANT to dance? Don't talk to me. like that. You want to dance? Let's go. That that that is so important, right? Yeah. Like what what you just stated.

right there and I and I think we sense. that. Yeah. we know we know when a. message is from another human or or if. it's from a higher up. Like man, don't. feed me no what what you heard from. somebody else. Yeah. You tell me what. you think. What's in here, man? Preach. What's in here, man? What are you. looking for in the Giants new coach, man? Man, I'm looking for a stern. leader. I believe that we got a great young room. but I believe like you said that that. that energy, man, that understanding. like what it takes to be a player is.

required especially with this new. generation, man. We need we need. discipline. Yep. Because when you got. young guys, we need somebody that know. how to steer that ship to where we're. going, right? We got one mission and. that's win games and win a Super Bowl, right? Oh, yeah. We need consistency. We. don't we we need someone that's going to. be who they are every single day, right? The the emotions as a head coach like is. Dirk Koetter, my first OC, he always. shared, you know, passion versus. emotion. Like we don't need emotions,

man, because game games games are going. to have ebbs and flows. We need passion. We need to know that you love us. We. need to know that you're for us. We need. to know that you're going to make. business decisions during the business. decision time. Like during the course of. a season, we need you believing in what. you presented us at the beginning of the. season and not going back to to to to. your your your B plan. You know what I'm. saying? And and and I and I feel like that the. third thing, man, we we need someone. that is going to give us a complete.

paradigm shift, man, because when when. you have an organization, you know, over. the past a few years that hasn't been. accustomed to winning you have to bring. in a winner. Yes. You can't bring in. somebody that. over the over the course of the past few. years hasn't won because that's sticking. that's that's doing the same thing that. you've been doing. You have to bring in somebody that is a. winner through and through and if you. look at his his pedigree, he's won. everywhere he's been or you bring in a.

new guy and you start a slate clean, right? And and you use the culture like. you said what what Howie Roseman, you. use the the the Byron.

[Music].

Joneses and the Dexter Lawrences and and. >> that is going to win a Super Bowl this. year. Okay. I I really I really believe but I.

go back to because I've been talking to. Circa, so I go back to Josh Allen. If Josh Allen can find a way to beat the. Denver Broncos this week Yeah. I don't see nobody stop I think that's. the confidence that he needs to have. >> like the the Bills have that Trump card, man. It really does, man, but I'm I'm. excited for this next week of football, man, cuz it's it's. whoever. >> best. It's going to be so much fun. seeing how all this [ __ ] plays out, man. Exactly. It's it's going to be a [ __ ]. blast, man, but let's get into this last. segment. We always end end these.

conversations with a little bit of we. got to ask. You can tell us to [ __ ] off. and you don't have to answer but we got. to ask, man. Have you been working on. the hard count? I have. I have. I I I eliminated the. jump somebody jump offsides. You know. what I'm saying? I did. I I did it but I. like THAT THOUGH. YEAH. YEAH. WHAT 80? WHAT'S THAT? HUT. HUT. WHAT'S THAT? SOMEBODY JUMP OFFSIDES, DAMN.

IT WAS A LEECH. YES, IT WAS. But when. you when you think about it, if it. wasn't cold, I would have got somebody. When you playing in cold weather, it's. very like very tough to get somebody. You know what I'm saying? You just like. I'm I'm froze. Yep. So that's why. I just love it because. there's that point where you're doing. the dummy count where you know nobody. nobody jumping on this. I don't want. anything to do with it. I [ __ ] hate. the whole dummy count. Like let's have a. play ready to run. Let's try and get. them offsides first but let's just run a.

[ __ ] play, man. I think it has it has. its time, right? It like when when the. clock about to run out like when you. just trying to get a free five yards. when you got like a second and short. >> What's your favorite hard count to try. and get some a team offsides? >> My my hard count is uh they it like the. Green Bay cadence. It's when you have a. cadence and you're just going through. the cadence and as soon as somebody. jumps, we locked in, they stop the ball, we go four verts. Right, that's my. favorite. You get a free play. You know, I I. I like I. I argue so much with our staff this year. about like why isn't that in? Yeah.

>> You got a smart center. You got guys. that can run. Like that that play like. you saw Aaron Rodgers did it last game. The only completion he had over freaking. 30 yards Yeah. was when he got up on the. center got the guy offside. >> whole career, man. >> Man, he's been doing it his whole life. and if and if and they try to call it. the Green Bay cadence, it's not. It's. just if a guy jump offside, I got a. smart center. >> Snap it. Let's go. Let's get a free. play. I don't disagree. I think. sometimes in the past where we've had. issues with it is like is it a run play? Is the tackle blocking? Are we always.

just going to do a a vertical if we get. them offside? So, you kind of got to. differentiate. It's it's really if it's. a pass play, dude, if if somebody jumps. offside, just take a shot. That's what. it should be. Right? >> But but look at this. If you got regular. one-word football plays which we have if. you got one-word football plays with. alerts, with motions, with freaking. uh. protection adjustments, you should be. able to have a single cadence. And in. that single cadence, this cadence right. here, we're going to call this the Jason.

Kelce cadence. And in this cadence, it's. one protection and it's one concept. >> Yeah. >> You can do this. Yeah. >> I can get I got to get in a holding. call. All right, you know, uh fake 37 Y. zone right boot right Z post X cross and. say on the JK. and everybody know what the freaking do. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> On the JK if somebody jump offside. >> Yes. Yes. >> what I'm saying? I'm running that Y. cross, I know that. You you're going down. You're about to. score a touchdown, you know what I'm. saying? You're not.

>> Uh man, you played with one of the. greatest ever in Drew Brees, man. What. was what was it like playing being in. the in the locker room with him, man? He's uh He's obviously, you know, one of. the best that is that has ever done it. Walter Payton Man of the Year, the guy. that seems like his character and his. his realness oozes out of him, man. What. was the what was the best thing you. learned from Drew? What was it like. playing with him? >> The best thing I learned from him was. and it helped me so much in my game is. focusing on the process and not the. outcome. Like he was so process.

oriented, man. Like just his details. with his footwork with his footwork to. different concepts, man. And and it all. stemmed from again, what we talked about. earlier, the continuity that he and Sean. had in that offense. He mastered. everything that that offense had to. give. And at the quarterback position, doing that for a very long time at a. high level, it just speaks in volumes of his work. ethic and just the love that he had for. his teammates, man. So, I'm so grateful. for Drew and what he helped me, man,

because you know, that one year with him. that that helped elevate me to have one. of the best years of my career. It got. it got shortly it was shortly lived. because I got hurt, but like he helped. me just with my process of, you know, what first and second down really is. First and second down like we're playing. Canadian football, right? Like we. we we like what how how do you play, you. know, what the the the the term behind. Canadian football is hey hey, let's get. first downs on first and second down. Second down. Let's eliminate third down.

Right, let's eliminate Canadian game. You only get three downs in in the. Canadian. >> Yeah, you only get three downs. And with. him just his approach to everything. One. of the greatest stories I had, man, we. were losing to to the Las Vegas Raiders. and we were down like two scores and. Drew he had a he had a good game, but. like we were coming back and like we had. some shots down the field that were like. open to me that was open. Our offensive. line was having great protection and and. I was like I asked him on the sideline. I'm like Drew, like hey, man, like like. we're down two scores. Like you ain't. trying to push the ball? He was like,

man, I I I never let a mistake that I. made earlier in the game. hunt me through the remainder of the. game, right? Because he I think he threw. an interception earlier in the game and. he was just like, man, I'm going to. stick with my process, right? I'm not. going to allow just the the greed of. wanting to get something right then. impact with my process that I have for. this two-minute drive, for this drive to. help us get back in the game, right? And. then the next week we went and played. freaking the LA Chargers and he was in. that same position and he went down dink.

dunk dink dunk dink and ended winning. the game for us by just staying on his. process. Another thing that I learned. from, man, like on Saturdays when. everybody's going out the building, I would just sit I would take a chair. and I would just sit on a chair and Drew. would go through two-minute on air by. himself calling the calls. Sean Payton. blessed us like he allowed us to call. the calls during two-minute. So, he. would go down the field up and down the. field at least three or four times.

calling his plays like really. visualizing. that moment. So, I practice that in my. training as well, man. So, just to see. the attention to detail that he had even. when I was only with him on his last. years, man, and to see what he went through. >> the full product. That's what that's. what that's what it the cool part of it. is that you saw the accumulation of all. those years into one and you have to see. what the finished product looked like, yeah. I did, man. And just to see what. he was overcoming that last year with. injury and all this and that, man, it. just was it was really a sight to see,

man. I'm I'm very grateful for Drew. Brees. How about it, man? I got to ask. this one, man. Your Florida State days, you were known to for to be on the. football field and the diamond. Has it ever crossed your mind to just, you know, pick up the old wooden bat and. go out there and see see if you still. got it? Man, I I actually cross trained. like two years ago, I started back. swinging the bat, man, because I. realized that I lost I lost all of my. torque and my rotation, man, because. every single every single year like.

growing up like I when I stopped. football, I went straight into baseball, right? I did my shoulder care. I did my. my ground my fielding work. I did my my. my tee work. I did everything that I I. would do for baseball because I actually. trained harder at baseball than I did. football. And once I get to the league, you know, hey, let's work on this. And. I'm just like, man, though my first five. years in the league, I lost all my. wiggle. Like I came to league like. freaking limber. I was able to take. stuff to the house. I was like, I got to. get back to building the athlete because.

you see that's what the game is. It. ain't no more just standing in the. pocket, look around all progressions and. complete the pass. You have to be able. to extend plays at the quarterback. position to win in this football league, man. You have to. And I think that cross. training with baseball has actually. elevated me and gave me a few more extra. years on my play because of the. different movements and different. actions that I do when I'm taking five. balls, when I'm fielding ground balls, when I'm swinging the baseball bat, being in different planes, man. It it it. goes and and I and I try to tell young.

kids like guys, do not try to become a. guru at one sport, man. Get on the get. on the basketball court. Get play some. lacrosse, man. Play some baseball. Play. some football, man. Like don't do not do. not just be focused on one little thing. like, oh, my baby going to be, you know, the number one pick at a quarterback. I. promise you your baby is going to be. looking like that number one pick from. age eight to age 18. He's going to look. just just like he is. You got to you got. to get some variety, man. I'm with you.

100%. >> We played all of them. We played. absolutely all of them, man. That [ __ ]. was the best. >> Yes. Y'all are athletes, man. Y'all. really are. >> Not even just physically. I I feel like. you start to mentally take things over. Like you you you spacing that you see on. the basketball court, you take it with. Jason, what do you know about spacing on. the basketball court? Well, I know that. you do it. I took I took I took spacing. from from the hockey rink. I took There. you go. There you go. Angles and. leverage, yeah. I still remember I. started playing lacrosse and I was a I. was playing football first. I started.

playing lacrosse. >> seen this man on the [ __ ] lacrosse. field. I can only imagine. >> Insane. >> But they but they got all these moves. They got like a face dodge. You got a. roll dodge where you're doing a spin. move all these things. And I'm like. playing D-line. I'm grabbing the stick. I'm like, I'm taller than this dude. I. swim them like this. Yeah. >> Just pull a swim move out. And my coach. is like, what are you doing? That ain't. going to work. Bro, I nobody could stop. my. It was like your back was out. >> swimming everybody. And now there's guys doing it in. division one lacrosse. You see guys. doing it and coach like every time I see.

it, I think of you. And I'm like, yeah, that's cuz it's a good move. >> Coach, if you ain't seen it, what make. you think that they saw it? You know WHAT I'M SAYING? LIKE THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT. OH, THAT AIN'T NEVER GOING TO WORK. WELL, COACH, if you ain't never seen it. before, how you think Do you think they. ever SEEN IT BEFORE? SO, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO WORK. ALL RIGHT, LAST QUESTION. Do you have a. welcome to the NFL moment? Well, yes, I. have a iconic welcome to the NFL moment. I got two. I got two for you. Well, my. first very first pass in the NFL was a. touchdown. Damn. >> And and a lot of people a lot of people.

can't never say that. Yes, it was it was. a Cody Sensabaugh on a pick-six. So, my. very first pass. That was we said that was a welcome to. the NFL. You got my ass up. >> is this is this is this is the craziest. thing, right? >> We both threw a pick on our first on our. man, that's why I knew you were my. brother, man. Our first both of our. first NFL passes were interceptions, man. Let's go. >> Listen though, bro. Like I'm going to. tell you about this. So, I'm in I'm with. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and you know, we got Lovie Smith. Lovie Smith is.

iconic coming from the Tony Dungy tree. It's going to be two Tampa spot drop. three or man. Right? And he'll probably throw bring. bring a five man rush pressure, you know. what I'm saying? Play zone, fire zone in. back ends. Man, our first game was the great Dick. LeBeau. All that defense, all the. different looks, all the fronts, pressures. Man, the first third down was. third and six. Man, they ran two man. coming from I'm coming from college.

Man, I ain't seen two man all year. Man, I I set it up, man. I threw a. little choice route out break, man. Corner sat. jump that thing undercut. I was like, "Oh my god." I I I had I had to hop on. my horse. I was like, "Well, it was a. touchdown.". You know what I'm saying? Now, but at. first I was pissed. I was like, "Man, I. wasn't prepared for this." You know what. I'm saying? I didn't think they was. going to play no two man. I was like, "Where is two man?". You know? First third down you play two. man like welcome to the NFL. Like I.

thought I was an athletic quarterback. You played me two man? Like now, and then then look, nowadays. you watching film you like, "Oh yeah, oh. they play they play two man." Oh, they. some some people say cover five. Nobody's got me. >> And you hear the quarterback coach, "Man, it's look, it's embarrassing if. they play two man against you.". [Laughter]. I think So it was embarrassing it it was. embarrassing that they played two man. against me. And it worked. Oh my god. And then what I'm saying and it worked. I said, "Man.".

Nobody's got you. That's too [ __ ] good, man. Well, James, man, appreciate the time. Appreciate the stories. Appreciate the. wisdom. Best of luck with you over there. in New York in the future, man. Uh, always always a huge fan of you as a as. a person, man. And I can't thank you. enough for jumping on with us, brother. Man, I retweet that to both of y'all, man. You know how much respect I have. for you, Jason, man, for what you just. done for this game, man. And Travis, as. you continue to just inspire a whole. generation of OGs, bro. The way that you. kill it, the way that you dominate, bro.

Thank you so much for the passion and. the energy, you know what I'm saying? Because like you always say, What you what you always say? You got TO. FIGHT. [Applause]. COME ON, BRO. AND YOU BE FIGHTING. You're the best, dog. >> And that's and that's the and that's the. energy that we have. The fact that you. know where I was going with that. >> exactly. He already knew that. It's that passion, baby. You already. know. So thank y'all, man. Love you, brother. You already know, man. >> All love. All right, that wraps up.

another episode of New Heights. Thank. you to Jameis Winston. Famous Jameis, man. He did not disappoint. He never. does. Make sure you subscribe to the New. Heights channel on YouTube and follow. New Heights on the Wondery app or. wherever you get your podcast. You can. listen to new episodes of New Heights. ad-free right now by joining Wondery. Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple. Podcasts. That's right. Once again, New. Heights is a Wondery show brought to you. by Reese's Oreo Cups. And man, the best. combination that you could ever imagine. That's right. Reese's Oreo Cups. Follow. the show on all social media.

@newheightsshow with one S for fun clips. throughout the week. Don't forget to. check out that Kelsey Clubhouse. Uh, for. all the uh, up-to-date merch and uh, news that's coming out from New Heights. and everything Kelsey. Thanks to the New. Heights production team and thanks again. to you 92%ers. We'll see you guys next. week after a little divisional football. Oh, yeah. [Music].

We inside, but we outside. Say it the other way around. I'm inside. Travis is outside. I'm. inside. Well, he's inside he's he's. outside, but he's inside. He's outside, but he's inside. This all is true. All right. I have no conflicting. remarks.