Ballpark Food Debate, Masters Recap & Troy Aikman on NFL QB Play, Drafting Mendoza & More | Ep 187

We love the wedge back in the day, man. Get the big boys out there. Full on. collisions. Like, why change that? That's the start of the game right. there. I get to see some action. >> The wedge. I haven't heard the wedge. >> I was a wedge buster in college before I. started. I was running down in knee. braces and they said, "Jason, just take. out this wedge." No joke. UCF had a. really good kickover like, "Hey guys, just go down there and take the wedge. out." We go down there. We blow this. fourman wedge up. It goes 106 YARDS TO. THE HOUSE. NOT THE SCOTT. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SEEN him not.

only run down the field, but run down. the field and knee breaks. >> That's right. >> WELCOME BACK to New Heights, ladies and. gentlemen, boys and girls. A wonderry. show brought to you by AT&T, the best. service provider there is. You better. believe it. We're your hosts. I'm Travis. Kelce. He's my big brother Jason Kelsey. out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Shout. out to the Heights and shout out to the. University of Cincinnati as we are alum. from there. I did get a degree. I know a. lot of you won't believe that even. Jason, but I do. And um make sure you.

subscribe on YouTube or wherever you get. your podcast and follow the show on all. social media @ newheight show with one. ass for funk list throughout the week. Jason, tell the people what we have. coming up for this week's episode. >> We got another great episode for you 92. presenters. We're going to GET OUT OF. THE HOUSE WITH Tra at the Guardians home. opener. We're also going to get to the. first ever onsite edition of Out of the. House Masters. >> AND HALL OF FAMER TROY EGGMAN IS HERE. THAT'S RIGHT. THE ONE AND ONLY, THE.

BEST. Troy is incredible and he's great. in this conversation. You guys are going. to really want to stick around for that. And uh before we do get into that, we. are going to get into the some of that. new news. >> New news coming in hot. >> New news is brought to you by American. Express. Travis made his way back home. to Cleveland for the guards home opener. LAST WEEK. YOU SAW SLIDER? HEY, is he. still called Slider. >> or it is Slider? Just don't even go down.

this road, Jason. Yeah, I saw Slider. >> I saw Slider, man. I got to see uh. everybody over there at Progressive. Field, man. Over there at what we call. Jacob's Field. Got to be a part of the. guard's home opener as uh we took the. game 4-1. Man, >> there we go. You know, it's just. something about getting my feet on the. ground in Cleveland just energizes me, man. >> You got those nice loafers on. >> those. Those things are Thanks, man. >> Did you get a look at any of the absurd. food? The Mo has been coming out with a.

bunch of absurdly crazy items all across. the country. >> I was just catching up with friends in. the suite and just watching the game. I. really didn't get outside, but we had. some good we had some good uh food in. the suite for sure. We got some wings. I. was about to say, what is your ballpark. food of choice since you're not a hot. dog person? >> I'll eat a dog at a at a at a I'll eat a. ballpark dog. >> Time out. You have said on this show and. to me for many years that you do not eat. hot dogs or tubular meats of any kind. So now you're telling me.

>> one exception. >> You know what? I'm not going to lie. This makes sense. >> Ballpark dog, man. >> It's a special It's a special. >> It's the nostalgia. I'll sacrifice my. ick for the fact of how it's made and. how it smells. and I'll just. I'll enjoy a ballpark dog. Man, I don't. know what it is about being at the. ballpark that I need a dog with some. ketchup on it and bing bang boom. I'm. not going to eat more than one. No, no. mustard.

>> You're not putting mustard on. That's. the one condiment you have to have on. it. >> That's a lie. Whoever told you that is a. [ __ ] idiot. I disagree. I think you. must have Well, yeah. Listen, you can. eat it however you want, but that's the. one condiment I have to have. Must You. don't like mustard on a hot dog? >> You can you could do like mustard in. like a sauce or like in like a dry rub. that the meat and like the other parts. of the food like hide the taste of and. the the like the melted crayon texture. that is mustard. >> Melted crayon texture. What What about.

uh sauerkraut? >> No chance. I can again again if it's. hidden in like a Reuben like a like a. Reuben sandwich I can or like a corn. beef sandwich maybe the sourness can get. a little too. >> pungent. We should just like review all. these crazy foods that I'm Do you see. this one over I think I'm going to go to. a a Diamondbacks uh game this year. solely to try this ice cream peanut. butter sandwich whipped cream cracker.

jack Kit Kat concoction. That thing is. [ __ ] insane. >> Does that not look delicious? >> By the way, that's a nutter butter, right? That's not a. >> nut butter. >> Peanut butter sandwich. What? >> Yeah, it's a nutter butter. Gosh. Did. the Kelsey household go through our fair. share of nutter butters, dude? Holy. [ __ ]. >> Right. >> Do you want to see some of the weird. [ __ ] they've got out there real quick? Get get the Kelsey brothers read on it. Now I'm getting some shakes. You don't. want to see the mini dessert chicken. bucket at the Yankees game?

>> I think they're pretty good. They're. pretty cool. I'm not going to be a. downer here. Let's see it. Brandon, who. else we got? >> You want to see a mini dessert chicken. bucket? There we go. >> Dessert. >> What is this called? The. >> It's a drumstick shaped ice cream with a. chocolatecovered cookie bone center, a. flo coating of white chocolate, and. candied cornflakes served in a souvenir. mini chicken bucket. >> What is the point of making it look like. chicken? >> It looks like chicken. I think we just. got there. >> I'm not a big fan of of of foods. impersonating other foods. >> You're out on the. >> I'm out on the chicken sandwich ice. cream sandwich thingy. Just give me a.

[ __ ] I cruise cam. I don't need to. look like a a chicken drumstick. Who are. we fooling here? What are we doing it. for? I would make sense if it was the. New York chickens. Then I'd be like, "Oh, okay. They're doing something. that's like a theme of like York. >> What is the. >> for New York chicken? I don't have a. chicken bucket.". >> Yes. But I don't I don't understand this. at all. >> Is it Is it the drumstick flavoring like. the the the classic like drumstick that. we all know that we get from like the. grocery store? It's just covered with. candied corn flakes to make it look like.

it's fried chicken, but I'm assuming. it's probably like vanilla ice cream. with a chocolatecovered cookie bone. center, which I don't. >> I'm out on this one. I I've seen a lot. of them. >> This doesn't make any sense at all. There has to be There has to be. something that's making sense to this. There's no way somebody is just like, "All right, here. Check this out, guys. A drumstick.". >> I think that's how they do it. I think. we're over. >> There's no way. I don't know where the chicken comes in.

to like chicken. >> Why did Why didn't they. >> Chicken isn't even known as being like a. ballark. Exactly. Why didn't they just. make it like a. >> They would have made a hot dog. Like. make it. >> You know what I mean? Just make it like. a baseball bat. Why the [ __ ] is. >> You guys didn't want to do this segment. and now here we go. >> KFC like was like, "Hey, we can't get. the fried chicken in the stadium, but. why don't you make ice cream look like. fried chicken?" And they're like, "Oh. yeah, sure. We'll do that for no [ __ ]. reason. All right, let's skip to the. next one. >> Next. Next. >> This one's This one's made us mad. We're.

We're moving on. >> I'll take the bucket. I'll take the. bucket. No chicken. >> Red Sox doing lobster poutine at Fenway. Park this year. The ballpark food. features crispy fries, lobster meat, clam chowder, and crispy bacon. All. served in a custom lobster boat. >> Why are we doing chowder? Baseball is a. [ __ ] summer sport. Chowder is not a. summer [ __ ] food, cuisine, whatever. it Like I don't like the idea of how. where that chowder's been stored. I. don't like the idea of. >> Where is it? At the bottom. Is that.

>> I like the lobster. I like this. >> No, that's what I'm saying. >> I like the receptacle. I like the I like. the lobster. I like everything except. the bacon. I have no idea why bacon is. included in this. >> and what the purpose is. It's not going. to add much. >> A little salty crud. >> IT'S GOT CHOWDER IN IT. IT'S SALTY AS. CRAP. I I do think if it's hot, I would. question the integrity of that chowder. But I'd still give it a go. I'd still. give it. >> the integrity of the chowder.

>> Seafood and heat usually doesn't pair. well. Especially Especially shellfish. >> [ __ ] 95 degree day at the ballpark. I'm out. >> I'm going to try any of these if you'll. have me. But. >> I will not try the chicken drumstick. I'm boycotting the chicken drumstick. Cool. A Yankees fan or somebody in the. Yankees organization, please tell us how. this came to be. >> I will say this. They did give us a. great moment. I'm gonna share this. Uh. there was a man who constructed a. chicken bucket hat tower. >> See, that's the thing. I like the.

bucket. >> I'm big into this. I'm into the bucket. >> The bucket. >> I'm [ __ ] with the bucket. KFC brought. to you by Travis Kelce. I mean, IF. THAT'S NOT NEXT YEAR'S BROTHER, I JUST. signed you a giant ad deal. I'm [ __ ]. with the bucket. Travis Kelce. I'm. [ __ ] with it. Colonel Sanders, hit me. up. >> Buckets might be the most underrated. piece of equipment that any man can own. or uh utilize. I think it's a it's a you. can stack them. You can carry anything. you want in them pretty much. I mean, it's a very useful receptacle, but the.

fact that we're making chickens is it. just doesn't make any sense. I can't get. past. >> They had the buckets already ordered and. they didn't know what to put in them. I'm I'm drawing the conclusions. They're. like, "What goes in a bucket?" chicken. >> They had a new fried chicken chain that. was going into the the stadium and then. they had to back out on their contract, but they had already bought all the. chicken buckets. >> Cost of cooking oil went way up and they. said, "I don't get a big ice cream.". >> That's the only thing that makes sense. >> We've solved the mystery. All right, let. me let me show you a couple more. The.

Rangers have revealed a wearable nacho. rally sombrero. The food vessel contains. chip, cheese, lettuce, jalapeno, and. more. >> This is hilarious. >> Is this real? Is this real? Yes, this. dead is real. The photo is incredible. >> All right. What do we think of the the. not the rally sombrero? >> I'm kind of into it. Outside the beans. I'm kind of into it. >> I think it's ridiculous. >> I know. It's beyond ridiculous. Yes. But.

I mean, it's kind of I [ __ ] love. nachos at a game. I love nachos at a. game, man. >> Can you imagine trying to wear that and. utilize it? Like. >> you're dumping that on your neighbors. You're dumping that on. >> This is getting everywhere. >> Um, >> I think it's hilarious. >> You have to go to the bathroom with that. on your head. >> Can't look down. Don't look down. Don't. look down. Don't look down. >> Don't look down. >> I like the idea of sombrero. I just. don't know that nachos was the best. choice. The messiest What's the messiest.

food item that we can combine with a. place that you can't access? >> You can't stand up and get excited. They. should have just made like p like. pretzel sombros. >> They should have made little pieces off. and dip it in cheese or something like. that. But like. >> the sombros shouldn't be large scale. enough to where you could put it on your. head. It should just be like the like. the old ice cream cut uh batters. helmets. You know those little small. ones. They should have just made a. little tiny sombrero like that in the. size of where you would always get the. nachos. You know, you know what I mean?

Like typically the size that you get is. just like a 4x4 or 5x5. You can hold it. with one hand, have a beer in the other. hand. Like they should have made a. sombrero that size. This is absolutely. ridiculous. >> What's interesting about this item is. that it probably is the only food item. ever in a ballpark where the person. buying it is the one not utilizing it. and in fact probably putting themselves. at the most risk of things going badly, right? Like the person wearing these. nachos is going to end up eating the.

least amount of these nachos. the people. behind them and to the right and left of. them. Like you're this is a very. selfless maneuver if you're buying the. the sombrero nacho hat. >> You're getting this. >> You're bringing the party for everybody. else. Yeah. >> This is hilarious, man. >> While also putting yourself most at. risk. >> Just hot cheese sitting on your head. All right. All right. All right. I went. to a guards game right after college and. we're sitting uh on top of like that. baby monster out on left field. underneath the screen and there's. probably 10 15 of the homies and we're.

all up there getting hammered and having. a [ __ ] blast and we go to get hot. dogs and we're like I mean how many how. many hot dogs can we get and they're. like well we can make as many as you. want. We're like all right everybody. gets like three four hot dogs. We end up. with a [ __ ] crate full of hot dogs to. carry them back to the back to the uh. seats. And my guy, I think it was Steve. Big A, my guy Steve Big Act has it over. his head as he's walking up and all the. guys see him and start [ __ ] going.

nuts like. he was like the hero of the day. And I. think that's what this [ __ ] big ass. sombrero reminds me of is like you you. bring this back to the homie. You're. just like, let's [ __ ] go. >> You're down a run and this rally. sombrero hits. I think this is going to. be Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Absolutely hilarious. >> Last one. Phillies. The schwar bomb. sundae. >> It is a mini helmet filled with soft. serve ice cream topped with a funnel. cake fried strawberry uncrustable fresh.

strawberry sauce and fruity cereal. pieces. M. >> I am so in on everything outside. >> of uh the Fruity Pebbles cereal. To be. honest with you, I'm not a big Fruity. Pebbles person. >> It's just sprinkling. >> I know. I know. But I I'm going to try. it. Don't get me wrong. I I I'll give a. full report. I'm a big fan of uh helmet. ice cream. >> I love strawberries. I don't know what. it is about strawberry sauce. >> Like strawberry? >> No. Strawberry sauce.

It says fresh strawberry sauce. Like the. drizzle over I don't know what it is. about that. It makes me like it gives me. like the it like the [ __ ]. >> Yeah, I'm in on that. >> Strawberry sauce. Too sweet. >> No, just I think it's the texture of it. It's like it's like. >> texture too syrupy. >> Yeah, it's like the red syrupy look like. there's a lot. >> Yeah, I don't know what it is. I don't. love it. Um, but I love everything else. about this and I'm taking that souvenir. home and Ohio.

>> I was in when they when I read funnel. cake fried strawberry and crustable. I. mean I that's the only thing I need to. hear. >> I'm going to try this now. >> Dude, fried uncrustable is going to be. incredible. >> Yeah. >> All right. That's ballpark food. >> It's called a schwar bomb. So I'm going. to give it a go. >> Great name. >> Great player. Great name. >> All right. Now that does it for new. news. Brought to you by American. Express. Thanks to our presenting sponsor, AT&T. >> Here's the thing about golf. It's where.

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Masters. We're uh currently filming this. while we're in the house. So, we're. going to toss to our own selves out of. the house. This Masters edition of Out. of the House is brought to you by AT&T. >> Oh, thanks guys. Appreciate you sending. it to us down here at Augusta. >> I've been down here since Tuesday. >> Yeah, I just got down here yesterday. Uh. saw Jason up at the uh up at the course. Had a few crows nests. Had a few Aelas. >> Yeah. >> Saw a few Aelas. Saw a few good shots. We're out here in.

the uh the front of the house that we uh. that were renting down here. And. >> it's gorgeous. >> Saying hello to all the patrons outside. of the course and going to head up there. for another fun day. >> Absolutely. >> How was the part three? >> Part three was great. I don't know that. I helped Ashe out at all. I actually do. think I gave him a good read. He told me. it was a good read, so I will take it. A. lot of fun. A lot of families, patrons. are all just looking to have a good. time. It's a way more relaxed day than. the actual tournament. >> Yeah. >> And it's very unique in the way that. like no other major especially, but.

really no other PJ event has something. like that the day before you do it. You. have proams in the other events, but. this thing was so unique and special and. the way that their families are. incorporated into it. That was my first. time being a part of it. And it's just. another example of I think Augusta. National just setting the example and. the tone of like what golf is, right? No. other sport do you partake in as much. with your families, whether you belong. to a club, whether you play uh with your. kids, it's just uh I think it's. something that really.

matches up well. >> Yeah. >> And to do that right before the biggest. tournament in golf. Uh it's pretty. remarkable. It's also not mandatory. So those guys sign up to do that. >> Yeah. >> They could be hitting balls. They could. be getting more reps. >> Yeah. But it's a part of the show. It's. a part of the fun. It's part part of the. excitement of the week. And. >> well, I think it's an acknowledgement. that this thing is bigger than. themselves. >> Yeah. >> Right. It's an acknowledgement that the. history to this. >> our families are going to be included in. it. All of it. Uh they really embrace.

it. So, I think it was it was awesome to. be there and and to have a lot of fun. with those guys. >> Yeah. The one thing about this. tournament is that it's it's more than. just a golf event. It's like you don't. necessarily have to be in the golf. You're going to see some amazing shots. of the best players in the world. >> Mhm. >> But it's an event that anybody can enjoy. because of how beautiful the landscape. is, because of everything that goes into. what that course is. I mean, you have. different uh houses and and places you. can go while you're there. Um, and you.

just get a full experience uh like none. other. And it's why it's uh one of the. best events in sports. >> The cool part about being there is that. you're on these grounds that have been. there and this tournament has been being. played since 1934. the course was carved. out and just feels like it was made to. be a golf course. Um, you don't have. your phones. There's no digital. scoreboard. Everything's manually being. done. It feels. >> hard. Yeah. There's no phones in. understanding where the the the match. is, you know, because you don't know.

what a guy's got going on three holes. over and whether they're making a push. or they're. >> there's a level of mystery to throw it. all away. Yeah. >> You're there and you're trying to figure. out where's the scoreboard. Oh, he. Freddy just got a quadruple a double. what was a quadruple bogey or four like. what the heck happened? And so it's. there's this excitement in the fact that. you don't really know what's happening. when you're there. The way the grounds. are handled, the way the faculty, uh, the workers, everything's done there is. just done at an insane level.

>> I got to give a. >> from the course management. >> to to the workers and everybody that. that's really putting this thing on and. making this thing go. They make it one. of the cleanest places I've ever been, especially on a golf course. Man, >> they do such a great job. Everybody says. it's kind of like the Disney World of. golf. They they everything I can see. that. >> all the dirty work kind of happens in a. way that you don't ever see. So. everything looks pristine. >> The way they treat everybody, the way. everybody treats you, whether it's the. patrons, the workers, everybody's just. there to have fun. It's an awesome time. They've somehow kept these prices down.

I mean, the pimeto cheese sandwich was a. buck 50. I think a bottle of water is. $2. They're not giving that thing out. for free. >> If you have Burkeman's passes, it's it's. for free after you pay for however many. thousands of dollars for the ticket. I. don't know how that works, but no, it. they've they could jack those prices up. >> Yeah. >> You go into an NFL stadium, you're. paying what, like $8 for a beer. >> Yeah, but those are premium beers. >> You're [ __ ].

But it was. >> What was your favorite shot? >> I don't know. We saw I'm trying to think of I my. favorite hole. >> Yeah. >> is 13. I love 13. >> Um the par five bend around the corner. >> Mhm. >> Then you got to play over creek. >> Yep. Okay. Raised creek. You know the. creeks. All right. >> I think it's Raised Creek. Um. >> and you got to make a decision on. whether you want to go for it and you. got a long second shot approach shot or. you going to lay up and uh pitch in. If.

you ever got to play it, what would you. do? >> What would I do? I'm going for it. >> You're going for it? >> I'm not trying to set a score. I'm. trying to have a story. I'm I'm trying. to turn the corner and everything. >> There we go. >> Yeah, it's uh that hole is awesome. I. also I I just like the par fives, honestly. Parfives and par threes are. the most fun ones to tee up. >> because you're going to see somebody. throw a dart at one of the par threes, like 16 or two coming down the hill. >> That's a fun one. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, you see scoring. You're. going to see somebody go for an eagle.

You're going to see some birdies. Like. there's a lot of action I feel like on. the par fives and threes. >> So those are the ones I like to post up. at. >> You think Rory's running away with this. thing or what? >> I mean, he's winning by six strokes. right now. >> Yeah. >> So sounds about right. >> For those of you that don't know, it is. Saturday morning. The cut has just been. made and Rory is winning by six strokes. He is going to be potentially the first. person to repeat as Mast's champion. since Tiger Woods did it in 2001. or two. It was either 20201 or 2001,

2002. Either way, he would be the fourth. person ever to be backtoback Masters. champions. >> Um, >> I think that would be awesome. Another. guy that's up there right now, Justin. Rose. I got to see him win the US Open. in Philly in 2014. >> Awesome dude. I. >> I watched him in Spka. >> Yeah. >> On the par three and then tee off. And. man, it's just crazy when you see these. these pros tee off with the driver, man. >> Yeah. I mean, the sound, the not only. the sound of the ball, the club hitting.

the ball, but the swing. >> Yeah. >> The placement and how tight it is. >> The velocity it comes off, it's crazy. >> how tight these these some of these. shots they have to hit. Even on one. >> one is just a par4 up the hill, but that. bunker on the right, you got like a 15. yard landing strip really that you're. trying to hit. >> Yeah. If you don't get it in there, you. can be in the trees on the straw on the. left side and you can't reach the green. It's watching these guys navigate how. precise they are with all their shots.

Uh it's just a blast to see in person. >> Yeah. >> When you can see the ball, that thing. skyrockets off that face. So, you got to. have some UV protection to try and see. it. Um but yeah, what was your favorite. thing you ate? >> Favorite thing I ate? >> You're I know you're a big uh egg salad. guy. Yeah, because who doesn't love. mayonnaise mixed with eggs thrown on. some white bread? I actually used to.

love egg salad. Mom used to make it. I. don't know what it was. Once I found out. that she was just like. that [ __ ] up. I walked in the kitchen at. the wrong time. >> Please don't do the salad. >> But mom, you made the best egg salad. sandwich. Um I'm going to be bougie and. stay. There's a fried chicken in the. Burkeman's place that is to die for. >> I didn't get the fried chicken. And I. got the pizza in Bergman's. >> How was that? >> So, for those of you that don't know, Burkeman's Place is another tier. >> Are we allowed to talk about Bergman's. Place? >> I don't know. >> Are we even allowed to be sitting here. doing this?

>> Probably not. We're going to get banned. for life, I'm sure. Uh I hope not. because it's an incredible experience. I. >> You can watch the You can actually watch. the tournament better. >> I mean, listen, I like watching on. Sunday personally. Uh all right. Pimeto cheese and egg. salad combination was my favorite. >> combo. >> Dude, it's called the Pomego. I found. that out this week. >> That is. >> It's a lot. I don't think texture-wise. you would. >> I am so out on this. >> Oh my gosh.

>> It's pretty darn good. Uh there was also. another combo people were saying the. pimento and the barbecue. To me, that. was too many flavors happening. It was. overkill. >> Pimento and the chicken. Classic. chicken. Grilled chicken sandwich. Yeah, those are. >> that was good. But the pomeg is my. favorite combo of it. Uh the ice cream. peach sandwich. >> I You didn't get one of them. >> I'm glad you tried all this cuz I. didn't. >> I was here longer. >> I was trying to watch some golf. >> They were also having me do it as a part. of the broadcast so I didn't really have.

a choice. >> Um it was all delicious. That's it. Yeah. >> I got around to. >> Yeah, it was. >> You see Nance? You see Daily? >> I didn't see either of them. >> Me neither. I'm hoping I can maybe find. Nance today. And. >> we called into Top Dog. >> Who knows if uh old John Daly is still. over there at Top. >> He is. He He's there right now actually. We called Top Dog yesterday when we left. the course to see if he was still there. and he had just left. Uh but he is there. this morning and he'll be there this. morning uh Sunday as well, I believe.

>> Interesting. >> So yeah, for those of you that have. never been, it's awesome. It's. everything you've heard about. Uh. there's some of the best golfers in the. world. Uh, the hospitality, the way it's. run is second to none. The tradition to. it, the the the history that's happened. there. All of these gnomes, there's. gnomes all over the place. Everybody's. getting home. >> Got to get my hands on these gnomes. >> Yeah, there's all there's the the merch. bag and that's where they get you. It's. a$150 sandwich, but you're going to go. into that merch store and spend some.

cash for sure. Uh, but you love it. I. don't know the way it was for you, but. like the moment people find out you're. coming, you know, I got my barber hit me. up. Oh, can I get a hat? Can you give me. this? Can you? So, >> that's awesome. >> It's uh it's an experience uh like none. other. A tradition like no other. I. don't know if we want to keep stealing. Jim's lines, but. >> I mean, Jim, we're stealing your lines. We love you. That's how good your lines. are. >> That's right. >> But we'll give you the nod. Imitation.

our sources. >> Imitation is the greatest form of. flattery. All right, that's it from us. down here at Augusta, Georgia. >> Little out of the house. >> We'll see how it the rest of it tees up. this weekend. >> Yeah, >> how it shapes up. That's all I got. >> Yep. And that's out of the house. See. you guys. >> How about that? That's our segment. We. don't know what that looks like yet, but. hopefully uh looks like we're having a. great [ __ ] time. >> Once again, that M's edition of Out of. the House is brought to you by AT&T. Let's get to our conversation with the.

legendary Hall of Famer Troy Aman. This. conversation is brought to you by. Amazon, one of OUR FAVORITES. OUR GUEST. TODAY IS 6'4 QUARTERBACK FROM UCLA. He. was the number one PICK IN THE 1989. DRAFT. HE'S A SIX-TIME PRO BOWLER, THREE-TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPION, 1993. SUPER BOWL MVP, AND A MEMBER of the Pro. Football Hall of Fame. HE'S ALSO THE. 1983 OKLAHOMA HIGH SCHOOL STATE TYPING. CHAMPION. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. He's been.

in the broadcast booth for 25 years. He's also my coworker on MONDAY NIGHT. FOOTBALL. PLEASE BEGINNERS. WELCOME TO. THE SHOW, MR. TROY EGGMAN. LET'S GO. >> THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. Best intro. ever. >> I'm trying. I'm trying. That's easy. It's easy when you got that many. accolades, Troy. Troy, I can't thank you enough for. taking the time and hanging with us, man. You've been an icon in the Kelsey. household for such a long time. I. remember I had the Dallas Cowboys uh.

action figures. It was It was all the. stars. It was you, Irvin, EMTT, Dion. I. I remember having them as a kid, man. I've been such a big fan. You grew up a. quarterback, wishing I could one day be. an Amanid, but you know, made my way. into the quarterback's best friend uh. world. Anyways, but appreciate the time, dog. Um and uh I got to hit you with the. first question, man. What was your first. impression of Jason on air? >> Oh, well, it was fantastic. I mean, I I. remember we did a production we did a. production call with with Jason back.

when he was when he was still playing. with the Eagles, and someone asked I I. don't think it was me, maybe it was Joe, maybe it was Aaron, asked him if if. Jason had an interest in getting into. television when he was done. And he. indicated that that he might, you know, that he had given it some thought, uh. was going to be doing some stuff. He he. talked about his grandfather, you know, he got emotional talking about his. grandfather and it was. >> it was one of those calls where we we. hung up and we said, "Wow, we just, >> you know, we we we just saw a side of. Jason that we had never seen before, you.

know, we just saw this great competitor, playing center and dominating, you know, and being an allp pro player and all. that, but then we saw this human side to. him. Then we thought, wow, you know, if. that can translate, the guy has a real. future, you know, if he wants to go that. route." And he did. And by that time, I. was I was at ESPN and and just thrilled. I mean, it was the Kelsey sweep stakes. It's it's a little bit it's a little bit. like what you're going to be going. through here, Travis. And uh. >> seriously. >> And so to get Jason, you know, to be a.

teammate uh at ESPN is has been awesome. I mean, I'm not just saying this. I said. this to others. I I think Jason's an. absolute superstar in this profession, you know? I mean, he can take this and. go as far with it as he as he did his. playing career. You know, we do that. Monday night countdown hit that I come. down and and go on the set with them. The the highest compliment that I can. pay uh any former player or current. player is by saying uh you know, I would. have loved to have been a teammate of.

yours and Jason's one of those guys. And. I Travis, I can say the same thing about. you. I've I've covered enough of your. games, but uh but now I am a teammate of. Jason's and uh he makes us better. So, it's it's awesome. And now if we get his. brother, we get his younger brother over. to the worldwide leader, we you know, we. got something. >> I don't know, man. ESPN's a very. polished organization. I I don't know if. I Yeah, I'm just kidding, man. I'd have. a [ __ ] glass. polish. >> Considering considering Jason's first.

time on air, he's screaming tits. Uh. >> yeah, that's great. And he still has a job. Uh, no. So, do. you think Jason could fit in on the on. the 90s Cowboys? >> Oh, heck yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Yeah. He'd probably be. hanging with me, you know. I mean, >> hell yeah. >> Some of those guys, they uh, >> you know, they they they had more. extracurricular activities than than. what I had. I I don't. >> I don't claim to know what Jason was. doing in his uh personal time, but I I. have a feeling he and I probably would.

have been hanging out together. >> Hell yeah. That would have been a blast. That's some good [ __ ] right there, man. I I had to ask you what your opinion was. or or the at least the first uh thought. of Jason being uh being a teammate. So, that's awesome, man. >> I got to mention this too while we're. still on like first impressions going up. in the booth with you and Joe for the. first time. I didn't know what I was. doing and just watching you guys play. off of it and like the the way you let. me in there and uh just a great teammate. you were there to try and guide me. through that. I really appreciate that. And and then you come down to the.

regular table while we're talking me, you swag and the pre-show and you kill. it there, man. I mean, you've been doing. this. Is there anything you can't do in. broadcast? How long you've been doing. this? 25 years. >> Yeah, 25 years. >> That is amazing, man. >> Yeah, it's crazy. You know, it was uh. Well, first of all, uh when I when I got. into this in in 01, I was in a threeman. booth. So, I I first worked with Daryl. Johnson, my former teammate. uh he had. retired a year before me. >> and Dick and then Dick Stockton. So the.

three of us and then after one year. >> Madden left and he went to Monday Night. Football. >> and so then they were looking for a new. number one booth and that's when I got. paired with Joe Buck and Chris. Collinsworth and I was in another. threeman booth with those guys for three. more years. So my first four years I was. in a three-man booth and I knew pretty. early on that I I didn't like the. threeman booth. Um, but I I learned a. lot by going that route. And the other. thing is too, there's there's there was.

no social media. So, you know, I said a. lot of dumb things. Uh, I still do, but. when you say something dumb, you're. like, man, I hope and and you didn't. have to hear about all the all the. people who heard you say it, you know, and and now, >> uh, there's not much grace period. There's not much grace period in life, period, but especially in broadcasting. So you don't really get a chance to kind. of learn your way. You know, there's a. everyone has a quick opinion on guys as.

soon as they come into it. But like. working with Collinssworth was was good. for me because he had been in television. for a number of years prior to that. And. Chris is one of those guys. There's a. handful of these type of guys. There's. not a lot of them. He could host a radio. show, you know, he could he could host a. studio show. He can be the analyst. He. could do, you know, he can do games. He. he can do all of it. Uh, he could do. playbyplay. I think there was one time. when they talked to him about maybe. doing playbyplay with Madden and and I. could not I wouldn't even attempt it.

You know, I think what Joe Buck does and. what play-by-play guys do is such a. unique skill. You know, I've gotten more. comfortable in front of the camera over. the years, which is only natural, but. I'm not as talented as as a lot of other. people that could really kind of do any. type of medium they they wanted to. >> I don't know, man. I think you kill it. every every time we talk me swag Ryan. SVP. Every time you're on the desk, it. is amazing to us how quickly you snap. into it. What you say just like pierces. through all the nonsense. Like that's.

one thing that I think you do such a. good job, not just on the desk, but also. calling games. The way you talk about. the quarterback position in particular, but really just football in general. There's a realness that doesn't come off. like you're attacking anybody. It's just. like a face value what you're seeing. that you articulate so well in every. medium I hear you in. >> Jason, that's high praise. It means a. lot to me. I I I'll be honest. I mean, what I'm most grateful for you saying is. that it doesn't feel like I'm attacking. anybody because there's times when. somebody writes something that I said.

>> and and and then it comes off as though. I was being critical of the player. And. I and I and I get offended by that. because the one thing that I've always. tried to do, I' I've tried to be honest. I mean, everyone tries to do that. I. think I think you owe it to the. audience. I think you owe it to your. employer to to to be to be honest, but. at the same time, I have so much respect. for the players and the coaches that. participate in this game. I mean, the. three of us, we we know. >> how hard the game is to play and and I.

especially know how hard the quarterback. position is to play. Doesn't mean every. throw is perfect. Doesn't mean every. time the quarterback plays he plays. well. and and I will point that out, but. I I hope I do it in a respectful way and. not in a way that that tries to. embarrass or be disrespectful to the. people that are out there on the field. doing it. >> For sure. And and it doesn't come across. that way to me, especially when you're. watching it live. I Anybody can write an. article with like a sound bite and frame. it in whatever way they want. I was.

going to say I think the players. understand that the most. You know, the. the the the guys that are seeing exactly. what you're seeing and and how you're. describing it. I really appreciate your. ability to to put it into words and and. to give that to the viewers. And I think. uh you know, we all are biggest worst. critics if we're the best. You know, if. if if you just have to have that. mentality. So if somebody's saying that. I'm not doing something that I need to. be doing, like I I I'm the first one to. point that out. So, I think the players. definitely uh see that first and um it's.

typically the viewers that have this. love and desire that you know their. their quarterback or their players are. are the best and can never do anything. wrong that have those kind of views on. that. especially Dallas because they, you know, I'm sure Jason if you know you. do games or if you were to say anything. on a pregame show about the Eagles. immediately gets like if I say when when. I'm calling a Cowboys game and I don't. call as many now on Monday Night. Football because we only get two games a. year whereas at Fox, you know, I had. many more.

>> But if a call if I didn't agree with a. penalty uh that benefited the Cowboys, I. mean, the Cowboys fans WOULD THEY'D LOSE. >> HER TRAITOR. The one thing I do uh remember from when. I was playing, I would be watching a. Sunday night game or a Monday night game. and a quarterback would make a throw and. the the analyst would say no one in that. he's the only guy in football that can. make that throw or he's he's the best. guy there is at that position. And then. the next week another quarterback would.

do something and they'd say he's the. best that and I and and I'm like there's. 31 other quarterbacks that can make that. exact same throw, you I mean, and so I I. I've never have been and maybe at times. this this uh is not good, but I've never. been prone to hyperbole. Like I just if. I do say something that's really strong, I mean, it's because I honestly believe. that that's the only player that could. have done whatever that was, you know? I. mean, I just think it's I think it's.

disrespectful to all of the other great. players in the league if if you're only. trying to sell that moment for. television and and not really being. totally honest about the league overall. >> Absolutely. And it comes across for sure. cuz and we're not going to name other. announcers, but other guys get labeled. almost as like super fans of like. specific players because they're always. saying certain things. And I just feel. like everything you say about a guy is. very at face value. you and I've always. like loved hearing that p perspective.

>> Yeah. Thank you. >> What do you think about the current. state of quarterback play in the NFL? Like where are you at just holistically. with where we're at? >> Well, I I like it. I I know going back. to towards the end of my career and I. you know I I played and when when we. when we played I mean I'm sure you guys. feel the same. You you feel like you. played in the golden era of your. position, you know. I mean there were I. I had Elway, Marino, Warren Moon, Jim. Kelly, Steve Young, you know, Boomer, the list goes on and on. I mean there. were there were a lot of really great. quarterbacks during the era that I was.

playing. And towards the end of my. career, I was asked, hey, where are all. the great young quarterbacks? Like who's. who's going to fill those shoes once. everyone retires? But but what you find. is somebody always fills those shoes. you know, there's always more superstars. that are coming along and and I think. the league is in great hands. I mean, I. I really do. Uh, you know, we can look. no further than Drake May at New. England, a secondyear player, and what. what he's been able to accomplish and a.

number of other quarterbacks as well. I. mean, obviously Travis's quarterback and. Patrick Mahomes, what he's been able to. accomplish, but there's Josh Allen. There's a number of great quarterbacks. Uh Joe Burrow has always been one of my. favorites, but I think the game itself, what I've what I've liked to see here in. the last couple of years, and Jason, you. probably would agree, we got so into the. spread sets and throwing the football, the rules favored the receivers. You. know, it was tougher on the defensive. backs. Uh and that really goes back to. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in some of.

those games because New England just. went after uh the the Colts uh. physically and so they changed the. rules. it became more favorable for the. receivers. So, we saw this influx in. teams wanting to throw the football and. now it seems to kind of be coming back. to the middle where teams are the ball. more. And I love that, you know, I mean, >> my career, I would have loved to have. thrown the ball more than I did, but I. if I was a coach today, >> I would do it the same way we did the.

'9s Cowboys. I mean, a power running. game, the play action game. And we see. that we see that from a lot of we see. that in San Francisco. We see it in in. with the Rams. We've seen it. >> with a lot of other teams, Chicago. And. they're kind of coming back to that, which which I really like, which is only. going to benefit the quarterbacks. So, >> uh, I I like where the league is right. now. I love these young quarterbacks and. and all the greatness that we've been. able to see from that position. >> I love to hear you talk about the the. '9s Cowboys, man. It's so [ __ ] fun. I. was just telling you how I was watching.

the documentary and how excited it felt. like that organization, everybody in. that building got when when you guys got. Norf Turner. Yeah. And I think I I'm I'm. really just I'm I'm curious what was it. about Norv's style and it really being. suited for you because you kind of had. that different uh world. A lot of a lot. of like uh rough games and a lot of. learning experiences through those first. couple years. There's so many. quarterbacks that have come into this. game that were were came in as high. draft picks, high expectations, and then.

it just never quite happens for them. And and my first two years in Dallas, uh. I was on that path. I was on the path of. of being a bust. We were the worst. offense in football really both years, my first and second year in the league. Uh Norf Turner then came in my third. year with the same players really pretty. much the same offensive lineman, same. skilled players, EMTT, Michael, uh. Novachek and and on our first year we. were a top 10 offense and we went to the.

playoffs for the first time, won 11. games. And then the next two years with. Norb, we we were top five offensively. and we won two Super Bowls. And so even. in today's game, there's there's not a. lot of great offensive minds. And if. you're one of these quarterbacks who's. fortunate enough to play for one, you. got a chance to be really successful. Everyone points to Sam Darnold and what. he's gone through and where he's been. the last two years. And that's a great. example of it. He's been around really. great coaching. He's excelled and we've. seen his talents come out and that's.

what happened to me. I mean, I I credit. there's a reason why Norf Turner was my. presenter when I went into the Pro. Football Hall of Fame. Michael and EMTT, they both they both credit Norf Turner. for turning their careers around. Uh and. and Jimmy Johnson, uh he deserves a ton. of credit, too, because he was a. tremendous motivator, but he was a great. evaluator of talent. >> Uh and so with those picks that we got. from Hershel, the trade of Hershel, you. know, we we we made the most of them and.

or he made the most of them. I had. nothing to do with them. >> Give me somebody, PLEASE. GIVE ME. SOMEBODY. >> IT'S FUN TO SAY WE. It's fun to say we. That's why we're on the same team here. It is kind of fun to say we, you know, we we picked some great players after we. made that Hersel trip. So, but yeah, it was a fun time and and just. as fun as it was, then then Jimmy left. And it it just goes to show you that, man, there's a lot that goes into to.

having success, you know, and when you. have it, don't screw it up. Uh, and and. and I think that the egos of Jimmy and. Jerry, they uh it happened too early for. them in the NFL. They didn't realize. really what they had. I think if it had. been down the road years later after a. longer period of struggling, I I think. maybe everyone would have kind of taken. a backseat and said, "Well, wait a. minute. This is too good. Let's just. enjoy it and let's not mess this up.". But so so be it.

>> Yeah. The perspective makes all the. difference. I remember 2017 uh when we. went on to win the Super Bowl that year, Brent, we had a really good team. We. could all sense in training camp, you. just know when like you got the roster, everything's clicking. >> and Brent Celich uh stood up in front of. the guys and like, "Guys, I went to the. NFC Championship game my rookie year. >> and we lost." And I was like, "Ah, we'll. be back there next year. It's been 10. years since I've been back to that. game." Yeah. >> He's like, "You don't know how hard it. is to get there." And when you got it to.

take advantage of it and that was like. it's launched the season, it really had. us like take it off. But I mean, the. perspective, you don't really know until. you have been through it and you've seen. the downturn. You realize how special it. is to have all those pieces in place. Let me ask you this. Uh cuz you brought. up uh organizations failing quarterbacks. more than quarterbacks failing. organizations. If you're building an. organization right now, I know you're. helping out with Miami. You're trying to. get a young quarterback. What is Troy. Aman's like pinnacle of putting this guy.

in a successful situation? >> First of all, I'll say this about. quarterbacks. I I. I'm sure you guys do it as well. I I I. worked the draft in in 2018. I think it. was whenever Sam Darnold and Baker. Mayfield and those guys came out. Josh. Allen. Yeah, >> it's a great quarterback class. So Oh, yeah. >> Uh it's the only. >> like fine wine. >> Only getting better. >> It's only getting better. and and I I. work that draft. So, I went to some of. these pro days and watch these guys. throw. >> Yeah. >> Now, I don't go to physically to the pro.

days, but I'll watch a number of them on. NFL Network and quite honestly, I watch. them and I I think to my what what do. you evaluate? I mean, what do you get. watching? This isn't even football. It's. just, you know, hey, let me just show. you how strong my arm is and you know, you get to see the ball come out. You. get to see a little bit of accuracy, but. there's not to me there's nothing that. happens. at a pro day for a quarterback that. translates into whether or not this.

guy's going to be successful in the NFL. And and you know, it's it's all the. intangibles because if you're if you're. looking at being drafted, you you've got. you've got enough arm strength, you. know, you've got enough athleticism and. then so okay, well then what's going to. determine it? Well, >> you know, what kind of leader are you? what how you know do you want to be the. the the best uh there is are you the. first one in the building uh what are. your work habits are you are you. intelligent you know I mean there's just. a number of things and and I feel it's.

easy it's easy when you walk into a. production meeting and you're meeting. Patrick Holmes who's already won three. Super Bowls you know I mean you know. he's got it whatever that you know the. the trick is then finding that person. who has it when they're still in college. and they're getting ready to go to the. NFL. >> so that becomes that really becomes how. you evaluate it. But I think as far as. what would it look like to give a young. quarterback success, it goes back to. kind of what we talked about uh earlier. I I would want him under center for the. most part. I think that I think the.

college game has gotten to where these. quarterbacks sit back, they're hold the. ball, they're waiting for guys to get. open, and then when they get open, they. throw them the football. They don't read. coverages. They don't understand. coverages. There's no sense of timing. It's one of the reasons why I love. watching Joe Burrow play so much because. the ball comes out on time. He's an old. school quarterback. I mean, he could. have played could have played Meyer in. the 90s and I feel that. Yeah. >> So, I think getting under center, it. forces a quarterback to kind of play in. rhythm and get the ball out. Uh, so I'd.

want that. I'd want a running game. Uh, all those things that are really. beneficial and helpful for uh for a. quarterback. But you're you're right. There's a number of teams, Dolphins. included, uh that are are looking for. the next young quarterback that can be. their guy for the next 10, 15 years. >> You brought up college. Where does Troy. Aman stand on NIL? >> When you talked about diving in on NIL. one time and then the [ __ ] kid didn't. even write you a note and just bailed on. UCLA. And dude, I I I hadn't been I was.

already out on it. I was like, dude, these kids, if these kids just get the. opportunity to jump, they're jumping. And it's like why even why even waste. your time on it? >> Yeah. It's uh and in fairness to to the. to the young player, you know, it's a. collectibles thing. He's just collecting. the checks. He doesn't know who. >> he doesn't even know. >> He doesn't even know. So it's no no. reflection of him. And uh but with that. said, I know a number of people, my. daughters being two of them, that would. have loved to have me to have given them.

that kind of money, you know? I mean, no. doubt. No doubt. >> They would have written me a thank you. note, YOU KNOW. SO, BUT YOU KNOW, I I never even met. him. I never even met the guy. And uh. and then he didn't play. So, it just. it's it and I speak for probably most. people out there. I know that most alums. have heartburn over this whole NIL. program. And I I don't know how it gets. cleaned up, but I do feel that at least. in the NFL, you've got a contract that. if you take money, you know, you're.

obligated. >> That's what it feels like it needs to. get to. >> Needs to get to you have to honor that, man. >> Yeah. You can't collect a check and then. the very next year go back in the portal. and then go collect another check. It. just it defies uh you know what what. this country is supposed to be about. I. always thought players should be paid. because uh you couldn't work in the off. season or you could work in the summers. You couldn't work during the school year. back when I was playing and and I didn't. come from a wealthy family at all. Uh, but there were a lot of teammates of. mine who came from less money than even.

I did. >> and they were really struggling and I. thought, man, these guys should be. getting paid something. And the the. NCAA, I think, just really dropped the. ball. I mean, if they had gotten out. ahead of this and said, okay, here's. what we're going to do. And they didn't. do it. And um and and now it's the wild. west out there, you know. So, >> it is insane, man. >> And what also what you don't hear about. anymore is is the quality of the. education. >> Yeah, that's. >> I haven't heard that. I haven't heard. education come by about college football.

since NIL came about. It's all of a. sudden. >> it's not even discussed. Graduation. rates, none of it. >> I've never heard a kid ask, "Hey, how. are my trans how are my credits going to. transfer if I if I switch schools here?". >> Haven't heard that one yet. >> No. >> But let's play let's play a hypothetical. because this is all funny games. Um, if. you were a college quarterback. and you had one more year of. eligibility, but you knew you were a top. top five lottery pick. >> at a great university,

>> but you know the NFL is waiting on you. and everybody everybody knows you're. going to be a top pick. Would you stay. an extra year or play for the worst or. get drafted by the worst team in the. league? >> Well, it says Jets, Trev. >> I'm not going to do the Jets thing. We. got we got we got we got an employee. that that works with us at New Heights. is a huge Jets fan and the question was. would you get drafted by the Jets? But. I'm just going to say by just would you. would you question whether or not to. stay the extra year or get drafted uh by. arguably like a a rough situation?

>> That's a hard one because typically, you. know, for instance, when I came out in '. 89, uh I was first overall pick and the. Cowboys of course were the worst team. and they were they were the worst team. in football and and we were the worst. team in football even after my rookie. year. Uh we we regressed. We went from. three wins before I came to Dallas to. one win when I joined. And and so that. didn't look like a great situation, but. yet it became an amazing uh place to. play. And and so I I think you got to be.

really guarded about saying, well, historically, this franchise hasn't done. it. And so, do I really want to go to. that place or should I stay in college. another year and maybe, you know, reshuffle the deck and I get a place. chance to go play somewhere else? I. >> Yeah. You know, there's a lot of you. take Peyton Manning going to. Indianapolis, uh, what he was able to, you know, they all look good. Joe Burrow. going to Cincinnati. I mean, all these. programs start looking better, >> you know, when you start getting the. right people in place. So, that's a.

>> that's a hard one. I I think it's so. important for these quarterbacks to play. just play in college, play as many. games. I mean, the chances of them then. going on and having success in the NFL. go up dramatically. I mean, you look at. a guy like Bo Nicks and what he was able. to do, and it's so rare. A lot of these. quarterbacks have only had 13, 14 starts. in college, and that's a big jump than. going to the NFL and expect them to play. well. >> Is there anybody out there that's.

struggling in the league right now that. you would say might be the next Sam. Darnold? >> Not off hand. Not offhand. Um, you know, when I going back to that draft, Sam was. my number one guy. I mean, when I. evaluated him, I thought the one. question mark with Sam in college was. the turnovers. He he turned the ball. over a lot in college, fumbles and. interceptions, and he still has had some. of that in the in the NFL. Uh, but early. on it looked like, well, maybe it's just. not going to work out for him. But like. we said, he goes to San Francisco, backs. up, then he goes to Minnesota, and then.

what he's done this year in Seattle has. has been awesome. We've seen that from. Baker Mayfield. Josh Allen was a bit of. a project coming out of college. People. thought he would take him longer than it. did and he's the one who had the most. success right away. So, I've talked to. so many people who evaluate quarterbacks. for a living and and I've said, "Hey, when you walked in and met with Aaron. Rogers coming out of college or Joe. Burrow or whoever, did did you know they. had it?" And and it's about 50/50, you I.

mean, it's a coin flip as to whether or. not what what you think is what they're. going to become. And u and that's why. that's why there's so many people that. have been wrong. Uh it's not an exact. science in in getting these guys right. >> Well, quarterback is even the hardest. one to judge. I feel like cuz like. you've been saying, there's so many. intangibles that determine whether that. guy pans out. That's. >> right. >> We got a great one coming out this year. He took college football by storm this. year with both his play and his uh his.

personality, man. He's a bit of a unique. individual. And Fernando Mendoza over. there to Indiana, obviously national. champion. Everyone's saying he's going. to be the number one pick. What's your. what's your read on on him if you've. been able to catch him uh playing. football? >> I haven't studied him. Uh I I've seen. him play a little bit. you know, my my. uh college football viewing is really. more or less the game's on and I'm. studying preparing for our broadcast or. whatever and so it's more more.

background noise. So, I don't really. study him too hard. A big fan of what. he's been able to do. Uh big fan of that. university for that matter and what Kurt. Signetti accomplished. I mean, it's just. remarkable. I mean, it's just blows me. away. Speaking of him, not to avoid your. question, but they played UCLA a year. ago. Week three, I'm home on a Saturday. They're UCLA Indiana at the Rose Bowl. Uh, and they start talking about Curt. Signetti, and I'd never heard of him. before. And they say he came from James. Madison. They go through his whole.

thing. They played the sound bite of, you know, all I do is win. Google me. And And so I got so I got I got I I got. so locked in like it that's when. television worked, you know, like it it. hooked me and I was I mean, and it. wasn't because of UCLA. was because man, I I want to know more about this Curt. Setti, >> this old ball coach, man. >> And I'm watching his team play and you. could tell they were just so well. coached. You know, the they'd catch the. football, they're three yards short of. the first down, but the guy immediately. catches it nice up the field, picks up.

the first down. I'm like, man, these. guys, they they've been well coached. So, I've been following them ever since. And uh so, I'm a huge fan of what he's. done. Now, Mendoza, I I will say I was. just having this conversation with. someone else that every year there is a. best quarterback in the draft, right? There's always a best quarterback, but. it doesn't mean that every year there's. a franchise quarterback in the draft. And I think that I think that that's. what and I'm not suggesting that Mendoza. is not a franchise quarterback at all. I'm just saying that, you know, that's.

that's what has to be evaluated. Is is. he the first overall pick? Should he. maybe not be the first overall pick? It's just that as we've talked about, the league is so starved for. quarterbacks. And if you're one of those. teams that needs one, man, they all look. like franchise quarterbacks. >> You talk yourself into it real quick. >> That's right. So, I I like him. I like. his accuracy. I like, man, tough. Uh. he's played in big games. He's shown it. on big stage. I think there's a lot to. be said for that. Uh and now it's a.

matter of can he get to the right place? Is is Vegas that place where he can. really excel? Um it it's easy to say, "Yeah, because Tom Brady's an owner and. he's got a vested interest and he's. going to be right there, but he's not. going to be right there, you know, and. there's a there's a lot that is. happening within that organization. So, uh, but I like the young man and I'm. I'll be pulling for I pull for all these. guys to play well. I'll be pulling for. him when he gets his chance." That's. awesome. >> Yeah, absolutely. Thank you to our.

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too. Oh, I want a smart house. >> What the is wrong with morons? Get off. my turf. >> GET OFF MY TURF. >> THERE'S A new segment for us. >> Sick of this new wave, man. We've been. We've been bitching about all types of. [ __ ] on how the NFL's changed, man. We're huge. We love the [ __ ] wedge. back in the day, man. Get the big boys. out there locking arms, [ __ ] full on. collisions. Like, why change that? That's the most exciting [ __ ] That's. the start of the game right there. I get. to see some action.

>> The wedge. I haven't heard the wedge. >> You're talking to two wedge wedge guys. right here. We [ __ ] love that [ __ ]. Crackback blocks being legal. Defenseless receiver rules, man. I just. watched the dock and and Michael Irvin. is just out here just enjoying every. single lick he's taking over the middle, man. just becoming bigger of more and. more of a beast every time he catches. one, man. And that's that it's just it's. just a different game. So Jason, go. ahead. >> I was a wedge buster. I was a wedge. buster in college. >> before I started. I was running down in.

knee braces and they said, "Jason, just. take out this wedge." No joke. No joke. Me and Ricardo Matthews, a D lineman. that played in the league for a long. time. They said, "We could get down. there faster than anybody anyways.". Like, "Hey, UCF had a really good. kickover." Hey guys, just go down there. and take the wedge out. They do all. middle returns. It'll be great. We go. down there. We blow this fourman wedge. up. It goes 106 YARDS TO THE HOUSE DOWN. THE SIDELINE. >> LET'S REEVALUATE THIS. Maybe have some. savvy. Maybe get to the ball. Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. >> Troy, you would have [ __ ] loved to. see this dude running down cuz it was in.

his transition. You heard him say knee. braces. >> Yeah. Well, that's what I was going to. say. I would have loved to have seen him. not only run down the field, but run. down the field in knee braces. >> That's right. >> He had just made the transition over to. the offensive line. It was the rule that. all O linemen needed to wear knee. braces. So he had this big old It was. like he had a yoga ball on his waist, man. He had this big old gut because he. was trying to gain weight to play O. line. Had the knee braces on, but still. had like that linebacker athleticism a. little bit. >> Not quite. Not quite.

>> Nothing in that belly more than beer and. Subway, man. It was hilarious, man. He. was he was he was a baller. >> We're going to give you 40 seconds, Troy. Air out any complaint you have. with the modern game of football. Do you. have anything that right off the top of. your head you can think of? >> I guess what I don't like is and I'm a. former quarterback of course. I I don't. like the extent of some of the. protection on the quarterback is. probably. my biggest complaint just because it it. man it just the whole objective for a.

defense is obviously to get to the. quarterback. I mean, if you do that, you. got your chances of winning go up. And. and these guys, man, I I've never played. defensive line or any of that, but I can. only imagine that you're fighting. through 300 lb offensive linemen. You're. getting twisted and torqued in all kinds. of directions, and yet you're trying to. get to the quarterback and and if you. get there and you don't do it exactly. the right way, then there's a penalty. And I just I don't like that. I I don't. like that at all. Now, there's so much. that's been done to try to protect.

players and and I'm I'm all for it, but. right, >> you talk about a wide receiver back in. the in the, you know, going back prior. to the 2000s. I mean, >> if you went over the middle, it was up. to the quarterback to protect the. receiver. And now, they just. quarterbacks will just throw it anywhere. because they know the quarterback or the. receivers's not going to get hit. And. what I see a number of times is. defenders, they don't know how to play. it. Like, they're caught in no man's. land. They don't know whether to try to. make a play on the ball, just just try.

to tackle the receiver. I I I feel bad. for the players, the the gladiators that. are in the arena. They don't really want. the protection. You know, they're the. the players are the ones always saying, "Hey, we're good. LET US PLAY. >> I SIGNED the contract. I'M GOOD. I'M. READY. I I agreed to this.". >> That's right. So, that's uh that's. what's kind of different and and odd. about the whole thing. >> Couldn't agree more. >> Yeah. I don't want to be the uh get off. whatever the segment's called. The get. off my lawn guy. >> Get off my lawn. You don't want to be.

that. >> All right. All right. We'll be those. guys. Thank you for Thank you for. playing along, though. Um we we'll get. we'll get you out of here after this. last segment, man. We always uh end it. with a little bit of we got to ask, but. you can clearly not answer. You can just. tell us to [ __ ] off, Troy. Um but uh but. we we got to ask these questions. >> I got to ask the first one. I got to. because this is the most impressive. highlight I've ever seen in the NFL. Is. Larry Allen chasing down that. interception the most impressive thing. athletically you've ever seen in the. NFL? >> Probably. I mean, this guy insane.

>> I've seen the clip you're talking about. and I remember I remember the play like. it was yesterday and and yet he was so. athletic that I didn't think anything of. it at the time that it happened, you. know, >> just a regular, oh, Larry's got. >> Larry got to him before I did, you know. Okay. I was I was I was pissed that it. was an interception, but. >> Right. Right. Right. Then I see the clip. and you're like, whoa. I mean, he he was. he was a freak. And he was the he was.

the quietest, shiest guy in the locker. room. >> Oh my gosh. I mean, he he he wouldn't. say two words, you know? I mean, he was. so shy. >> Silent assassin, man. >> And he'd get on the field and he would. just destroy people. I mean, it was he. was he was inc He was amazing. >> I think of that clip. I think of that. What did he put up on the bench press at. the Pro Bowl the one year? It was like. some absurd number. >> Yeah, he might have been 800 lb or. something. It was after I had retired. that uh that that he did that and uh and.

just a gentle giant. I mean, God rest. his soul, you know, he passed a few. years ago. Uh but I'd reached out to. him. I'd heard he was struggling a. little bit and uh he was just a a gentle. giant. I mean, just a just an incredible. His son went to Harvard. Harvard or. Yale. Uh played football. I mean, he was. a family man, raised great kids. Uh, everything he did, he invested back into. his family. You know, the the words goat. gets thrown around a lot, you know,

greatest of all time and all that. I I. mean, there's a lot of great linemen. Uh, and and I'd put a lot of others on. par with him, but I wouldn't say anyone. that's ever played's been better than. him. I I know that. And loved loved. having him as a teammate as well. >> Yeah, baby. close friend of mine, Andy. Reid, uh says that uh he maybe have. called you in 2002. >> Yeah. >> Uh while you were while you were on the. Fox broadcast to see if you maybe be. interested in playing for the.

Philadelphia Eagles. >> That's right. Yeah. We were down. >> we were at Old Jack Murphy Stadium. I. was in the threeman booth with. Collinssworth and and Joe Buck and we. had just done a game break that Donovan. McNav had just broke his leg and the. Eagles were playing really well. They. were number one in the NFC at the time. as mid-season. We're getting ready to go. to halftime and my producer Richie Zion. says, "Hey, I've got a number that I. need you to call at halftime." Which he. had never done and I was in my like. third year third year broadcast middle. of a broadcast. This is.

>> and I'm trying to call from uh the booth. at halftime and there's no cell service. So I walk out onto the concourse. because this was an old stadium. It was. old Jack Murphy. So I'm out on the. concourse. Fans are walking by. Of. course they're like, "Hey f you Aman. Cowboys boy. I got I got Andy Reed. I said, "Hey." He. says, "Hey, it's Andy." And I said, "Andy Reid?" He said, "Yeah." And uh he. says, "You know, you heard what. happened, didn't you?" And I said, "Yeah, we just did a game break on it.". He goes, "Well, I want to talk to you.".

I said, "Andy, I'm in the middle of a. broadcast.". He said, "I know you are." He said, "I. need you to call me after the game." And. I said, "All right." So, I called him. after the game and he was selling me on. why I should come out of retirement and. go go sign with the Eagles and play for. them. They were playing Monday night. The following game was on Monday night. against the 49ers. And uh Ty Ty Dead was this. He I I. decided obviously I didn't I didn't do. it. I said I I didn't go. >> You didn't pull the old man Rivers.

I was on my way up to Monaceto, Santa. Barbara after that game and I'm driving. up and I said I could either keep on. going north and enjoy a week in Monaceto. or I'm going to be on a plane in a. blizzard in Philadelphia, you know, and. Gmer goes down the very next week. He. gets hurt against 49ers. AJ Feelely. takes over. He wins five straight games. McNab comes back from his injury, finishes out the season, and and the.

Eagles went to the NFC Championship game. that year. So, it wound up being still. an amazing year for him. >> There you go. That's but what a fun. story, man. That's crazy. I can only. imagine trying to be on the main. concourse. while flies are yelling at you. It's. like, this is Andy. Oh, man. That's too. funny. >> Speaking of Philly, do you have any. favorite stories from playing in Philly? I know they're good on defense now, but. back when I played, it didn't matter if. it was Buddy Ryan, Bud Carson, Ray. Rhodess. I mean, it didn't matter who. their defensive coordinator was. They.

they they beat the dog [ __ ] out of. quarterbacks. I mean, it was 91. They. were number one against the run, number. one against pass, number one overall. They were knocking quarterbacks out. every week. And uh my first game against. them, I didn't know a lot about him my. rookie year. Our first game was on. Thanksgiving in Dallas. And uh at the. end of that game and and that was the. year obviously we weren't very good. And. I at the end of that game they x-rayed. both shoulders, both knees, my elbow. Uh. I thought I I thought I had broken bones.

through my whole body. We we had to play. the Eagles two weeks later and after. they x-rayed me after the game, they. said, "Yeah, no, everything's good." And. I said, "Everything's good. WHAT WHAT. HAPPENED?" AND I HAD TO GO back two. weeks later and play against these. animals. I mean, they they were. >> they were brutalent and that was a game. they were throwing the you know, they. had the snowballs with batteries and you. know I didn't take my helmet off. Uh the. Santa Claus throwing snowballs at him on.

his little tricycle. I mean that that. stuff that stuff was real, you know. >> That's amazing, man. >> Yeah. >> I remember we were sitting around at a a. round table one off season. It was me, Favre, Elway, and I think Warren Moon. And they asked us where our least. favorite place to play was. Our toughest. place to play. And they get to me and I. said uh said Philadelphia. I mean it was. hands down Philadelphia is the worst. place to play. And and Favre and they. they go to Favre and Favre says.

Philadelphia. And I said what do you. know about Philadelphia? When have you he only played there one. time in his career and it was like four. years earlier. I said I got to go there. every year. These guys are. I mean that that defense was so they. were so good. I mean Reggie and Clyde. Simmons and you know the list goes on. and on. Seth Joiner. Yeah. Eric Allen. I. mean they they were just dominant. >> We got a running joke on here that. average an average fan couldn't get a. single yard in the NFL. But.

with a guy as as much football knowledge. accumulated as Joe Buck, could Joe Buck. get a get a yard in the NFL? >> Get a yard doing wide running the ball. >> Running the or out wide catch. However, >> there is no chance. None. None. In fact, in fact, you know, Joe played football. He broke.

his neck playing, you know, when he was. in high school. >> Broke his neck. I didn't know this. >> Broke his neck playing football. >> with a giggle is hilarious. >> Joe would not only not get a yard, he he. would not he might not get up. I mean, maybe like. Come on. Are you serious? >> My bad, Joe. I set Joe up for failure. right there. Who's a better actor, you. and Jerry Magcguire or Jerry Jones and. Land Man? >> Jerry Jones and Land Man. Did he not.

crush that? >> It's so fitting, >> dude. That scene in the hospital is. unreal. >> I've had a lot of meetings with Jerry. over the years. Had a lot of great. conversations with him about his past. And, you know, when he gets into talking. about some of the things that uh that. he's lived through and that that he's. done, it's pretty pretty fascinating. And so, I've heard variations of. basically that story that he told in. Land Man. And so Joe and I were talking.

about it, Joe Buck, and he was saying, "Hey, did you see it?" And I said, "Yeah, I saw it. It was phenomenal." I. said, "But I've heard him basically tell. that story." I said, "He wasn't acting. That's that's Jerry. I mean, that's. Jerry telling the story." And and Joe. made a great point. He says, "No, I I. hear you. I hear you that it's his story. and and all that, but but he told it in. a sound studio in front of 40 people. with cameras and lights and and an. audience, you know, and and he and he.

sold it. >> That is acting. So, >> uh I when he said that, I said, "You. know what? You're right." Cuz we've all. been on commercial shoots and you know, it's not as comfortable as what Jerry. made it feel when he was delivering. that. I thought I thought he was. phenomenal. Couldn't agree more. Yeah, the the cadence and like the way he the. pauses and every it just came off so. real. >> and I've gotten to know uh Taylor. Sheridan uh and we were talking about. that that uh piece that Jerry did and. and I agree. Taylor said if if he.

wanted, you know, he could make a living. as an actor, you know, and and he could. >> I mean, >> I got I got a joke I could tell, but I. don't I don't want to tell it, so I'm. not going to. >> All right. it would go and roll and then. I then I got my hands full in the media. for the next. So, I'll leave it at that. But. >> when we stop recording, we're going to. we're going to hear this. All right. >> Yeah. >> Using a former teammate to fill in the. blank. People forget that blank was a. problem. >> Using a former teammate to fill in the.

blank. That blank was a problem. Um, >> people forget that that this man was a. problem. I mean, obviously we had some. we had some colorful figures um and and. well documented, I might add, but the. the the thing that you know, there's a. lot of people who who point to to. Michael and it was in the documentary of. all the things that he went through uh. and and dealt with in his personal life. and away from the field and and I I. would say that Michael like he and I.

have a relationship that's so unique and. it's been that way forever. Uh, you. know, my mom who's passed, we Michael. and I were on a on a cruise after my. first year and I I brought my mom and. and like my mom the Michael and the. trouble and the things that he he got. into like my mom would not have condoned. those things. You know, a lot a lot of. people's moms wouldn't. A lot of people. wouldn't, right? But my mom loved.

Michael Irvin because every time he saw. her, he made her feel like a million. dollars, you know, and I I've met. y'all's mom. And when people make your. mom feel special, >> I mean, you can't put that into words. You can't put a price on that. And so, and and my mom loved Michael right up. until the day she passed. And Michael. and I have that relationship to where. he's for the longest time as as I've. gotten older, you're more willing to. tell people what they mean to you and.

that you love them. And but when you're. in your 20s, Michael was the guy who. would come over, see me in public. He'd. come over, give me a kiss, and tell me. he loves me and, you know, bear hugs. Yeah. >> Yeah. I was just And regardless of. whatever was happening in his life when. we went out to practice, because people. would say, "How how do you and Michael. How are you and Michael so close?" And I. said, 'You know what? When we go out to. practice, it doesn't like we live. totally different lives, but he gets out. there and he runs every route like he's. preparing for the Super Bowl. It's never.

affected the way he prepares during the. week. And that's all I cared about. I. mean, if a guy if a guy came and showed. up to work and was ready to get better. that day and help us win, man, it was go. do whatever the hell you want. And that. that was Michael. I don't know how he. did it cuz he ran hard away from the. facility, but he he ran hard at the. facility as well and and it's why we. were as close as we were. >> Man, I love Irv, man. He's the best dog. >> He's a p he's one of one for sure. >> Do you have a welcome to the NFL moment?

You might have already named it with the. Eagles uh game from your rookie year, it. sounds like. But. >> it was the Eagles and it was my rookie. year uh and it was Thanksgiving that I. talked about that uh you know, in. college a big guy breaks through the. line. Uh, you know, I wasn't the fastest. guy in the world, but but I could run. I. I I ran the whisp at OU uh when I was. playing at Oklahoma, but uh you know, you just run away from them. You know, you run away from them, you throw the. ball, and you know, you go on to the. next play. And we're playing uh the. Eagles and and Reggie White got through.

them got through the line. So, I take. off running and then somebody somebody. tackled me from behind and I was just. like, who was that? I didn't know they. brought a linebacker or something. Yeah. >> When I got up, it was it was Reggie. And. that's when I. >> that's when I remember thinking, man, this this league is this league's. different when you've got 300 pounders. like Reggie White who are running you. down from behind. And uh yeah, so that. was my. >> that was my welcome to the NFL moment.

>> That's a mean guy chasing you for sure. >> Troy, we can't thank you enough, man. One of the best to do it on the field in. the booth. Standup guy, man. Thank you. for all the nuggets of gold, the wisdom, the stories, brother, and and of course. the time, man. This is fun, man. >> You got it. You got it, man. I. appreciate you guys having me. You guys. are awesome. Thank you so much. >> Thank you to Troy Aman for stopping by, man. I still remember having those. action figures when I was a kid, man. I. I I even when I watched Little Giants, I. was like, I kind of like the Cowboys,

man. Like Aman had those Cowboys jerseys. looking [ __ ] sweet in the 90s, man. Shout out to Aman for all the stories, man. Uh, obviously one of the best. broadcasters out here, but for all you. young bucks, man, go watch some Aman. highlights from the 90s, man. You won't. regret it. Once again, that conversation. is brought to you by Amazon. And that. wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Troy Aman. Make sure you're. subscribed to New Heights channel on. YouTube or wherever you get your. podcast. >> Once again, New Heights of Wonder Show. brought to you by AT&T this week. Still.

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Does um into Interpretex want to sponsor. my trip to the zoo? >> The LA zoo? >> No, I went to the Living Desert in Palm. Springs. It's a better zoo. >> Oh, you're full of [ __ ] I'll take you. >> You're You're as close to San Diego as. you are to the [ __ ] desert. So, >> I was I was in the desert looking at. wedding venues. It was not This was not. a zoo trip. This was a. >> Brandon. >> J Travis. >> So nice. >> It was very nice. And here's what I've. learned. It's expensive.

Oh, [ __ ]. >> Oh, yeah. >> I said, Lauren, how serious are we? Honey, there's a there's an Applebee's. right there. >> She'll say yes to that. >> Honey, you know I love you. It's $3. margaritas. How much are we really. looking to spend on people? >> Half off apps after 10. After 9, actually, they moved that up an hour. >> They have something called a triple. dipper. I think our guests will love. that. Yeah. Let me know when you guys. want to come out. I'll I'll book it. around your schedules. >> Are we invited? >> You guys are both invited. You skipped. Jake, so you got to come to mine. >> You're getting married at the zoo. Honestly, I would get [ __ ] married at.

the zoo. I love a little walabe running. around. Dude, do not don't temp me. >> Just come out on an elephant. That's. epic, >> dude. They had rhinos, man. If you. [ __ ] rhinos are sick, >> bro. Rhinos are [ __ ] very intense. Did you go in the cage with them? >> No, they don't give me the Travis Kelce. tour. >> Don't do it. >> I'm with Jin Pop. They keep me behind. the fence. >> It's terrifying. >> No, they're they're but they're like. you're looking at an alien when you see. them [ __ ] taught around like holy. [ __ ] I have a ridiculous AI algorithm.

right now of H Ionas. I Hyionas Hyion. Hyas. >> Yeah, that one is hilarious. >> The one where he's just laughing in the. in the front seat. >> Oh, I saw. >> that's one that I had to look up. Like. I'm like I know this is fake, but I just. like let's just see if it says Jason. You had to look that up. >> You had to double check. I knew it. >> The hyena had a mask on. >> Brock, is this real? >> Hilarious. just comment section just a. quick glance making sure. >> you can't ask AI about another AI thing.

being real because then they're they're. on the same team they're going to say. get the robots get together. it's real that's real that's real that's. real that's real that's that's fine love.