ICE agent involved in Maine shooting expressed 'HATRED' of IMMIGRANTS: NYT

OF THE NEW YORK TIMES. THAT REVEALS THE ICE OFFICER WHO. KILLED A YOUNG MAN IN MAINE WAS. FAST TRACKED THROUGH TRAINING. DESPITE A DOCUMENTED. HISTORY, HOSTILITY TOWARD IMMIGRANTS. ACCORDING TO THE TIMES, THE ICE OFFICER QUOTE HAS A. TROUBLING. WORK HISTORY, PAST COMPLAINTS OF DOMESTIC. VIOLENCE. OF THE PIECE OF THE STATES AND. ABUSE AS WELL AS MENTAL HEALTH. ISSUES. JOINING US NOW ONE OF THE REPORTERS BEHIND THAT PIECE, NATIONAL INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT. FOR THE THE NEW YORK TIMES, KATIE BENNER. ALSO WITH US DEMOCRATIC.

CONGRESSWOMAN SHELLY PINGREY OF MAINE, THE FATAL SHOOTING HAPPENED IN HER DISTRICT. CONGRESSMAN, WE'LL GET TO YOU IN JUST A. MOMENT. But first, Katie, tell us more about this ICE. officer. and what you found out about him. So the ICE officer's name is David Brouillette. And one of the reasons why we were interested. in him is because he was hired. at a time when ICE was. IN THE MIDST OF A HIRING BINGE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO PEOPLE WHO WORKED AT ICE,

WHO WERE THERE WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING. AND THEY HAD EXPRESSED CONCERNS THAT IN. IN DOING SO, ICE WAS PUTTING. UNQUALIFIED OR AT THE VERY LEAST UNVETTED PEOPLE. OUT ONTO THE STREETS. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS HOLDING A GUN. THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY WERE. REALLY QUALIFIED AND THERE. There was a huge backlog of their background reports. that nobody had had a chance to. really adjudicate. So as we were trying to figure out. whether or not this did pose the dangers. that some of these whistleblowers had. claimed had been posed by this hiring policy, we came upon David Brulette, and his resume does seem to fit the picture.

of the risk that everybody was worried about. Having somebody on the streets. who had a troubling history, had mental health issues, and then in IN THIS. CIRCUMSTANCE, HAD ACTUALLY SAID SOME VERY, VERY RACIALLY CHARGED STATEMENTS. TO A FAMILY MEMBER THAT SHOWED. HE HAD SERIOUS ANIMUS AGAINST COLUMBIAN. IMMIGRANTS. AND IS THE IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT. INVESTIGATING THIS? I MEAN, WHAT IS NEXT IN TERMS. OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THE DEATH? SURE. SO RIGHT NOW THE MAIN STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

IS INVOLVED IN A ROBUST INVESTIGATION TO. DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE USE OF FORCE BY. DAVID BRULETTE WHICH RESULTED IN A MAN DYING, YOHANN SEBASTIAN GERON GUERRERO HAS. RESULTED IN HIS DEAD, WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF. FORCE, AND THE DHS INSPECTOR GENERAL IS ALSO. LOOKING INTO THE MATTER, BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH. COOPERATION IS HAPPENING BETWEEN. FEDERAL AND STATE INVESTIGATORS. KATIE, A TEXT MESSAGE YOU ALL AT THE. TIMES RECEIVE. INVESTIGATORS. THIS IS HIS MOTHER OF THE ICE AGENT, QUOTE,

HE'S DANGEROUS AND SHOULD NOT HAVE WEAPONS, BELIEVE HIS VICTIMS, NOT HIM, THAT'S HIS MOTHER. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE SCREENING AND THE TRAINING. OF THESE ICE AGENTS AND HOW ALL. OF THIS ESCAPED THOSE THAT HIRED THIS ICE AGENT? SURE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A WHISTLEBLOWER. TOLD US ABOUT WAS THAT LAST AUGUST, HE SENT A NOTE TO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL SAYING, LISTEN, WE ARE RUSHING TO PUT PEOPLE. ONTO THE STREETS.

IT'S GOING TO CREATE NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT. WE'RE CREATING A. WE'RE PUTTING INNOCENT CIVILIANS AT RISK. SO THIS IS CERTAINLY A PROBLEM. THAT THE AGENCY HAS BEEN AWARE OF. AS A POSSIBILITY. IN DAVID BRULETTE'S OWN CASE, YES, HIS MOTHER HAD HE WAS DIAGNOSED. WITH BIPOLAR DISORDER WHEN HE WAS 12. FAMILY MEMBERS TALKED ABOUT HIS RELUCTANCE TO. ACCEPT THAT DIAGNOSIS AND THEN SUDDENLY HE. APPLIES FOR A JOB AT ICE last fall after going.

through a string of other positions. and he's given a start date of December 1. It's not clear how well he was vetted. before he was given his start date. We do know that a. I DON'T THINK THE FULL BACKGROUND. CHECK WAS DONE ON HIM, BUT BY THE TIME JULY HAPPENED. AND HE SHOT AND KILLED SOMEBODY. THAT HADN'T BEEN ADJUDICATED SO. NOBODY FROM ICE HAD ACTUALLY. LOOKED AT THAT REPORT AND DETERMINED. WHETHER OR NOT HE SHOULD BE ON THE. DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT HE. WHOA. SO CONGRESSWOMAN, WHERE DO YOU BEGIN, LOOKING BACK AND TRYING TO GET JUSTICE IN A.

CASE LIKE THIS BUT BUT ALSO MOVING FORWARD, DEALING WITH AN AGENCY THAT SEEMINGLY HAS. UNLIMITED FUNDS AND ACTS IN A ROGUE WAY. SURE. I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS CONCERNS IN. MAINE, AND OF COURSE THIS THIS WAS SERIOUSLY. HEARTBREAKING FOR THE COMMUNITY OF BIDDLEFORD, WHICH WAS A VERY SAFE TOWN AND WITNESSED THIS. HORRIFIC KILLING OF SOMEONE WHO WAS JUST ON. THEIR WAY TO WORK, JUST TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF HIS WIFE AND. THREE-YEAR-OLD CHILD, THESE KINDS OF PICKUPS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ALL OVER OUR.

STATE AND THERE ARE ALWAYS SOMEONE WHO IS. ALLOWED TO BE IN THIS COUNTRY. THESE ARE NURSES, SCHOOL BUS DRIVERS, MOTHERS WAITING AT THE BUS STOPS, KIDS WHO SHOULD BE OUT ON THE SOCCER FIELD. SO FOR OUR STATE, THE LITTLE TINY SAFE STATE. OF MAINE, WE ARE RILED UP ABOUT THIS EVERY. DAY AND DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT. THE ICE OFFICERS ON OUR STREET. THIS RAISES SO MANY QUESTIONS. I MEAN, IF THIS AGENCY GOT A $70. BILLION PUSH IN THE LAST YEAR, THEN WHY DON'T THEY HAVE THE.

PEOPLE TO AT LEAST ADJUDICATE. THESE BACKGROUND CHECKS? AND ONE QUESTION I'D RAISE IS, DO THEY LOOK AT THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND SAY, OH, GREAT, HE'S OUR KIND OF GUY. THESE ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ANGRY AT IMMIGRANTS. WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE THAT. MUCH MORE VICIOUS AND ANGRY. PICKING SOMEBODY I MEAN, WE LITERALLY DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION DONE YET AT. THE. ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE OR. THEY ARE WORKING TO COMPLETE IT. BUT WE'VE GOTTEN VERY LITTLE. COMMUNICATION TO THE WHOLE DELEGATION. THAT ASKED FOR A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.

FROM THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, WE'VE GOTTEN VERY LITTLE. INFORMATION THERE. BUT WE ARE JUST SO DEEPLY WORRIED HOW MANY. OF THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL OUT ON OUR STREETS? ARE THEY STANDING IN FRONT OF THE SCARBORO ICE. FACILITY TODAY? ARE THEY MAKING PICKUPS WHAT IS GOING ON, CONGRESS ABSOLUTELY HAS TO DIG IN WHEN. WE'RE BACK IN THE MAJORITY. CONGRESSWOMAN, YOU WERE ALREADY ON THE. HOUSE COMPANY ON. APPROPRIATIONS AND AS YOU JUST SAY, IN A MATTER OF SIX, YOU WILL BE IN THE MAJORITY ONCE. THE NEW CONGRESS IS SEATED IN. JANUARY. WHAT CAN BE DONE HERE?

OVERSIGHT, YES, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF ANY. POTENTIAL CLAWBACK. OF SOME OF THE. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THOSE PLACES WHERE. IT SHOULDN'T BE. I MEAN, WE'VE HAD THE POWER OF THE PURSE AND BEEN. LEANING ON A. REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND USE. OUR CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY. BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY A WAY IS. TO MOVE BACK THE MONEY INTO PLACES WHERE IT SHOULD BE. GOING, INVESTIGATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH IT,

THE ENDLESS DETENTION CENTERS, THE PEOPLE PICKED UP EVERY DAY. THE EXTREME COSTS OF THE PEOPLE WHO I HAVE TO. HELP TRACK DOWN IN MY DISTRICT, THEY'RE OFTEN MOVED TO ONE DETENTION CENTER TO. ANOTHER BEFORE THEIR FAMILY CAN FIND THEM. JUST THE COSTS OF THAT I MEAN, WE HAD A FAMILY IN DILLEY THAT WAS THERE. FOR FOUR MONTHS AND DAUGHTER WAS THERE. FOR AN EXTRA TWO MONTHS. WE HAD TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN. TO TEXAS, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO GET THAT LAST. DAUGHTER OUT. AND I WAS JUST CALCULATING WHAT WAS IT COSTING. EVERY SINGLE DAY? THIS IS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE.

COMPLETELY INNOCENT OF THE TAXPAYER. DOLLARS IN THESE PRIVATE DETENTION CENTERS. BUT IT'S MORE OF THE WE ARE HEARING REPORTS FROM. EMPLOYERS ALL THE TIME HOW MUCH. THIS IS IMPACTING THE WORKPLACE AND OUR ECONOMY. DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN SHELLY PINGRY. OF MAINE AND NATIONAL INVESTIGATIVE. CORRESPONDENT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES, KATIE BENNER. THANK YOU BOTH. REV, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE HORRIFIC,

CRUEL THAT ARE HAPPENING EVERY DAY. YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IN ALL PARTS. OF THE COUNTRY AND THE VIOLATION. OF PEOPLE'S HUMAN RIGHTS. WE ARE THE COUNTRY THAT WE WERE THE BEACON OF. LIBERTY AND. RESPECTING PEOPLE'S HUMAN DIGNITY. NOW ALL OVER THE WORLD THEY'RE. LOOKING AT THIS CONSISTENT. IT'S AMAZING AND PERSISTENT POLICY OF JUST SCAPEGOADING. PEOPLE BASED ON WHO THEY ARE.