Oprah Winfrey: How to Find Your Unique Purpose, Authentic Power, and Calling in Life

Today on the Mel Robbins podcast, a. life-changing conversation with Oprah. Winfrey. >> I'm [music] so happy to be here with. you. I really am. >> I thought I would be coming to you. >> No, I had to come to you. >> You could go anywhere and talk to. anyone. >> No, I had to come to you. A. >> you were born to fulfill the dream of. your life. here on Earth. You were born.

into this planet, [music] into the. density of this gravitational pull to. fulfill. the dream of your life and of the. creator's dream of your life here on. Earth. Get about the business of doing. that. Whatever you're looking at is only. a piece of the picture of your whole. life.

Oprah Winfrey, welcome to the Mel. Robbins podcast. OH MY [screaming] GOSH. I CAN'T I'M SO. GLAD I can reach you. >> Oh [laughter] my gosh. Wow. Wow. Oh my. gosh. Already. >> Hi. Of course. Hi. [laughter]. >> It's so good to see you. >> I came to Boston to see you. Yes. >> Thank you. >> I have always wanted to sit down and.

have a conversation with you, but I. always imagined that I would be coming. to you. >> Really? >> Yes. And I guess the reason why is. because I just thought, well, you could. go anywhere in the world and talk to. anybody. And it never even occurred to. me to think about or manifest you coming. here. Well, I appreciate the invitation. to actually be able to sit in your home.

space because this is where you reign. [laughter] and this is where you reign. and I have watched you listen to you and. I watch the bestsellers list uh. regularly and I am just so rooting for. you. I I have watched you become the. voice of our time in leading people home. to themselves. This is why one of the. things I hope people get from you and I. today because I see.

so much of myself in you, Mel. I. actually see. >> you do. >> and am honored by who you have become. because I know for sure that some of. what I did and what I've said over the. years, you really got it. And you to me. are like. on the ex the the the same mission in. your own voice, in your own way, through. your own self-expression.

But to me, you are one of those people. who took the message of everything that. we were trying to say on the show, and. you just paid it forward, are moving it. forward in your own way. So, it's like. every time I run into someone who says, "I watched your show. My mother watched. your show. My grandmother watched your. show. I watched your show. I was a. Latchki kid." It makes me feel like, "Oh, you're a part of the children I. raised." Yes. And you are one of those. >> Yes. who's taken that light and just.

blasted it through the world. >> Well, that's one of the reasons why I. was so excited to welcome you here. For. 44 years, I have been your student. You. have been my guide and my teacher. [music]. And I think that you have served that. role for hundreds of millions of people. around the world. There are [music]. producers on this team whose mothers. learned English by watching your show. [clears throat]. >> and your life and the way you move.

through the world is an example of the. difference [music]. that each and every one of us can make. >> Mhm. >> I would love to have you speak to the. person who is here with us watching or. listening. >> Yes. >> And share your intention for this. conversation and how it might impact. their life. My intention for. flying to Boston to be with you, Mel, and to be with you all is to be used.

as a light. and a light that shines. or illuminates in a way that you can see. yourself through me, through my stories, through Mel, through her stories and. have that light ignited within yourself. I believe that I've had. just the most blessed life on earth.

I just. can't [clears throat] get over. how blessed I have been in my life. I. can't get over it. I marvel at what God. and the life forces have done for me. I. I marvel at that. But when I think about it now from the. point of view of 72, I realize that what I have acquired. is not as.

magnificent or extraordinary. as who I have become. And I know that the world looks at what. I what I have acquired, but it's who I have become. And I recognize that the work to become. myself. is the same work and ability that. everybody has to become the most of. themselves. And I am most proud of the woman that I.

have become. And I want everyone else to have that. I want you to have that. I want before I. leave this earth, I want everybody to know that you have. the power to literally fulfill the. fullest expression of yourself as a. human being. So that's why I wanted to.

have this conversation with you today. I. believe everybody has come to do a. service to the planet. That's why we're. here. I believe that this is a I don't. believe we're the only planet. I don't. believe we're the only life, but I. believe that this is a special one. I. believe that this is the Earth school. where we all get to teach and we all get. to learn from one another. And right. now, a lot of us are messing that up. because we've missed the point. But I.

also know that within each of us is this. internal GPS. within you. M mine is no different than. yours. Mine is no different than yours. The difference is. I'm obedient to mine. Everybody has it. I just listened and I'm obedient to. mine. But. every single person that comes to the. planet comes to the planet with the.

ability to have that light with inside. themselves and to be guided by that. light. And every time you go off course, every time you allow yourself to be out. of alignment, things go wrong or you feel stuck, you. feel overwhelmed, you feel. exhausted, you feel that you can't go. forward, you feel you don't know what to. do next, you feel confusion, you feel. but everybody has it. I know one of the.

reasons why I think I was so successful. and we were number one for 25 years. because I I really did not see a. difference between me and the audience. that was watching. I recognized that we. were the same and that I was the. surrogate voice for them. That I get to. sit there and I get to interview Tom. Cruz and I get to interview all the. people. But what gave me the power to do. it was that I was speaking for the. audience, not for myself. And so I I do.

believe that a lot of people are missing. out because they're not obedient to the. call. And the call is within you. It's. not out here. It's not on social media. You're not going to hear it from your. friends. It means being still enough to. know what it is. And you can feel it's. just a it's a feeling, doesn't it? Wasn't it a feeling? It's a feeling. There is a particular story that you. share about being three or four years. old. >> and watching your grandmother through. the screen door and the voice spoke to. you. >> in a very firm way about what you don't.

want. And I think it might be helpful. for the person listening to understand. that if you're not hearing it in the. affirmative, >> it may be easier for you to hear it in. the way that it's like nope or no, don't. >> No, that is I just had an aha listening. to that. You're right. You're so right. A lot of people are thinking, "What do I. want to do? What do I want to do?" Do. you know what you don't want to do? And. a lot of times, you're in a If you're in. a job that you know you don't want, that. is that is vital information. You're in.

the job that you don't want. That's. telling you you don't want to be here. So, let's figure out where I actually do. want to be. So this story I've shared. often but it so dear to me because it's. the only conscious memory I have of. recognizing the voice from the first. time for the first time. I had to be. between four and five because that's. where like round memory starts. But I.

was very very small and my job with my. grandmother was to take out we had what. we call a slop jar because there's no. there was like a pea pot, you know, for. using the bathroom because you don't. want to go to the outhouse at night cuz. it's too dark and there might be snakes. in there. And so my job was as a little. girl, too much responsibility, to empty. that pot every morning. My other job was. to, you know, sort the clothes pins for. my grandmother. She's hanging clothes on.

the line so that she doesn't have to. sort them and also pick them up at the. same time. Um, and also turning butter. because all you do to turn butter is you. just did there with the stick turnurning. butter. Butter had to be churned back. then, y'all. We didn't have butter. So, I was turning butter on the back porch. looking through the screen door and it. was cold and my grandmother was hanging. clothes on the line and I'd sorted the. clothes pins all in one place and she's. just picking up the clothes pins and.

hanging these sheets because she was a. domestic worker and had brought the. sheets home from the white people's. houses and was boiling them in the pot. That's how we clean the sheets. And she said, "Opale, you better watch me now. cuz one day you going to have to learn. how to do this for yourself.". And I was just turning the butter and I. was watching her and this feeling came. over me that literally spoke to me and.

said, "No, you won't. this will not be your life. But don't tell her [laughter]. [laughter]. >> cuz she will not appreciate that. >> I I I want to hover on this. >> Yeah. >> Because there are so many times in my. life where I could not hear I couldn't. even hear the radio. I was so confused.

I mean, forget about that little whisper. inside me cuz the noise was so loud. The. fear was so loud the as you call it the. disease to please. eat me away. >> So for the person who's listening who. has now heard there is a GPS a light. inside you because it begins here. [snorts]. >> and you have said Oprah that I believe. that every single one of us Yes. You are. listening right now. Oprah believes I. believe that you have a light within. you. You are here for a very unique and.

particular purpose. Yeah. And and don't. get confused that it's some big thing. that has to be seen. I think a lot of. people think when it's you talk about. purpose. >> What did you say? Okay. Hold on a. second. I want to make sure that you. heard that. Don't get confused that oh, it has to be a big thing. It has to be. Instagrammable. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> I think that's where we You're like, "Okay, my thing needs to be out here.". >> Yeah. No, no, no, no. That's that's. that's where you're wrong. >> It's in here. >> It's It's in here. And it's also how do.

you best serve where you are? You know. when I ended the show I said you know. that I had had this this marvelous. platform of speaking to millions of. people on a daily basis but every person. has a platform. Your family is your. platform. Your community is your. platform. Your church is your platform. Your job is your platform. Your work. You have the ability to reach and touch. people's lives wherever you are. If you. touch the life, you still have a legacy.

And so for everybody, everyone who. listens and hears us, your legacy isn't. the big big big picture. It's what. you're doing today. It's how you speak. to the person that's dry cleaners. It's. how you talk to the person who's parking. your car. It's how you it's how you're. treating the people in your immediate. circle. >> That's how you will be remembered. And. so, and that's the heart print that you. leave or don't leave with people. >> Heart print. >> Yes. It's the heart print that you leave.

or don't leave. Actually, I learned that. word from a little guy named Mattie. Stapanic who was um on my show and was. in a wheelchair and ended up dying when. he was 13, but really one of the wisest. little angels uh who' come to earth. And. he used to say, "Whenever you touch. someone's heart, whenever you moved, you're moved by something someone does. you you you leave a heart print and so. we're leaving heartprints all the time. and you know that wonderful phrase that. Maya has about people don't remember. what you say or what you did but they.

always remember how you made them feel. so just be responsible for the energy. that you're carrying into the world and. understanding that you are you are a. part of the bigger picture we are all a. part of the big thing we are all here. and I know it's so hard when. [sighs]. the price of eggs. The price of. everything, the price of just living. seems so overwhelming. But there is a deeper reason.

other than just working to survive. And. when you recognize that, I think it gives you room to breathe in. a in a in in a deeper force field. You. know, it's not just about the job that. the real work of your life is to figure. out why you actually came. The real work of your life is why did. you actually come and I know I can tell.

just by listening to you that you have. figured that out. >> Me? >> Yeah. That you are in service to the. call. >> Absolutely. >> In service that it's true. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It's true. >> And it wasn't always that way. I wasn't. It wasn't always that way for me. I. lived in chaos, fear, anxiety, self-destruction, people pleasing, addiction. Oh my god. Like just It's It's interesting cuz when. you're in chaos in your head. >> Mhm. >> it's so loud that I could hear what.

you're saying in those moments. >> Yeah. I feel pulled to wanting to tap. into the light and to trust myself and. to find that inner GPS. I honestly didn't know how, which is why. I kept coming back to you. You would be. the voice that would silence everything. And then I would start to practice what. I was learning. And I would love to have. you expand on this because I know the. person that's thinking right now is is.

probably thinking, "Okay, well, easy for. you, easy, easy for you, Oprah. Yes. Which is a deflection because when. you start to blame and. >> and get triggered by the very thing that. could save you and help you and free. you, that's a sign that you want it, but. you don't know how. Having sat with so. many. >> people that have found purpose and. meaning and peace in their life. >> versus people who are very stuck. Mhm.

>> Is there a difference between those two. people in terms of if somebody's very. stuck right now? >> Yeah, I think the difference is if. you're very stuck right now, it's. because you can't see the bigger. picture. >> You can't see that the source of all. being. didn't bring you here to get you stuck. It brought you here so that you can. continue to move forward and offer what.

you came to give to the rest of us, to. the rest of the world. That's all we're. all here to do is to bring our. offerings. And our offerings come from. every lesson we've ever learned. Don't. you you you you see that now? I Maya. used Maya actually wrote a book called I. think it's a book of poetry called I. wouldn't take nothing for my journey. now. But she used to sing the song. It's. an old hymn. I wouldn't take nothing for. my journey now. For my journey now. For. my journey now. Oh, I wouldn't take.

nothing for my journey now. And I that. means all the stuff that was a part of. the journey to this moment. I wouldn't. take nothing for it. Yeah. >> And I feel that and I want. you. to know that whatever has happened to. you was also happening for you once you. could recognize. why it was happening to you no matter.

how horrible it was. And that's why I. can say in spite of the sexual abuse, [clears throat] in spite of growing up. poor, not only in spite of, I am so. grateful to have been born literally red. dirt road poor in Mississippi with no. running water and electricity. I am so. grateful for that. I am so grateful for. having an outhouse and not knowing what. a bathroom was for the first six years.

of my life. because it makes every darn. time I flush my toilets [laughter]. like a wow experience. I'm just like. wow. So it makes it makes coming from that. dirt road so much more thrilling that. journey. >> If somebody's sitting there thinking. right now, >> especially the line everything happens. for you, Oprah.

>> Yeah. I mean, come on. Like the the the. things that are violent and terrifying. and awful that I don't deserve. How do. you flip that in your mind so that the. things that happened to you. >> don't keep you there? >> Like cuz there's a real flip there. Cuz. you know, I've never liked that saying. everything happens for a reason. >> I know. because I just believe that. sometimes very cruel and unfair and. horrible things happen to people who.

don't deserve them. But I think a lot. about how to truly grow and reclaim your. life after something like that, you have. to find a reason. >> to move forward after it. Can you just. dig even deeper for the person who's. really feeling like I don't know how to. how to embrace everything happens for me. as a mindset so I can move forward.

Well, when it happens, if you don't move. forward, then you just get stuck and. your life debilitates. And one of the things that becomes a. debil a debilitating energy, a. debilitating force field. And so when I. say it happens for a reason, I don't. mean, oh, there's a reason for. everything. I mean that when that thing. shows up for you [clears throat]. that often feels unfair,

that often. you don't understand, why was I raped at. nine? Why did that happen to me? I at the time couldn't see any good. coming from it. Um why did I have to. grow up poor in Mississippi in an. environment where it was illegal for. black people to be on the street after. dark? Um. all the things that happened in in my.

family life. Why why why was I raped. again at 10 and 14? Why why why why? I mean, I'm actually not supposed to be. here. And people have more horrific. stories, unimaginable stories than mine. and yours. So, I don't mean that like, oh, willy-nilly, like, oh, everything's. happening and there's a reason for it. There's a reason for everything, but it. doesn't mean you're responsible for the. reason or that that thing should have. happened to you. >> Yes. >> And so, really bad things happen to me.

I grew up feeling very lonely and I know. a lot of people grow up most people grow. up not getting what they need. I. remember doing a show with John Bradshaw. who is the founder of the whole inner. child movement. John Bradshaw did an. exercise where he had people go back. into their childhoods and look through. the window. Walk yourself home. >> and then look through the window of your. home and what do you see? And I saw. myself separated from my grandmother and.

my grandfather, but feeling very much. alone. I don't. actually remember feeling loved by my. mother or my grandmother. growing up. I now know they loved me in. the best way they knew how. But I didn't feel it. And because I. didn't feel it and didn't get what I. needed, that is what inspired me to be. such a talker, that's to be a speaker,

to be an orator, >> to do so well in school because that's. where my validation came from. I got I. felt no validation from home. >> So I felt love from my teachers. >> I felt pleasing my teachers ma made my. teachers like me. I felt I felt a sense. of satisfaction and worthiness outside. my home, not inside my home. Because I. didn't get that from the people that I. needed it from. I got it from the world.

I got it from strangers. >> Yes. >> Because we all have a design for our. lives. You know, one of the things that. impressed me uh so much to be able to. find peace within my own family because. I grew up, as I said, not feeling loved. But once I became Oprah. Winfrey, everybody loved me. [clears throat]. Everybody. I was driving in Chicago and. my mother was in the car and she goes,

"We didn't have much, but we sure had. love." I almost. wrecked the car. Like, what are you. talking about? What? Who are you? Who. are you talking to? I said, "What did. you just say?" She goes, "Well, we. didn't have much, but we sure had love.". When So, I know that I never felt it. I. know that I was never shown it. I don't. remember one moment ever when my mother.

ever. complimented me or. said, "I'm proud of you." I do remember. being young and reading in the house and. it was summer and it was hot and I was s. sitting in a corner reading and my. mother goes, "What you doing in here. sitting up in here reading in the house? You need to get out there with all these. other kids. You think you better than. everybody else just sitting up in this. house reading." So, I remember being. punished for wanting to read. I I don't. ever remember, but I made peace with my. mother. I made peace long before she.

died. Well, this is one of the pivotal things. that I learned from you and it was the. like life class that you did with TD. Jake. >> and I would love for you to share what. he taught you because it forever changed. my ability to see. thing people in my life very. differently. Could you explain cuz that. was. >> Oh, that was a f fantastic life class.

that I did with him and I it actually. struck me too cuz I remember crying. like tears just shot out flowing when he. said that because it was so affirming. for me. He said that. you're a 10gon person. I'm a 10-gon. person. A lot of you are 10 gallon. people trying to get 10 gallons worth of. love from pintsiz people who cannot.

carry the 10 gallons. They can't even. carry the gallon. You're looking for 10. gallon love, 10 gallon responses, 10gallon reception, 10gallon acceptance from people who have. a pintsiz ability. So what I learned. from that is that expecting. people to offer you or give you the. love, the attention that you need who do.

not have the capacity to do it. They. just they don't have the they don't have. it. And you have to recognize they don't. have it. So what do they have? Can I. accept you exactly where you are with. what you do have? And so my mother could. cook. She made some an incredible. collarded greens and could make. cornbread like nobody else. And she and. that was the way she offered love.

>> and her idea just like I know a lot of. you have grown up with with parents. especially if you're my generation or. below my generation. You have parents. who thought because I provided for you. that was love. You had food on the table. You had. shelter. You weren't on the streets. That was that was that was all I had. That was all I had. And I realize now my. mother was a was a was a maid her entire. life until I retired her. My grandmother.

was a maid, a domestic worker. And. [clears throat]. taking care of other people's kids. You're giving all of your energy to. taking care of other people's kids. putting on the face for them, wearing. the mask for them, and by the time you. came home, you had nothing left for me. I recognize that now. And I forgive. that. And you know, my favorite. definition. >> Oh, well, I'm going to let you say it. cuz this changed my life, too. Your. definition of forgiveness.

>> Yes. is giving up the hope. that the past could be any different. If you are still wishing, hoping, wanting what happened to you to be. something different than what it was, that will leave you so stuck. So for you forgive for yourself, you. forgive. you forgive. to say I am going to release this thing.

that happened to me and ex first of all. get to the stage that requires all of us. to move forward and that is acceptance. You know Elizabeth Kougler Ross in her. uh Krueger Ross in her famous you know. five stages of grief. >> Yeah. You know, you you go through. denial and you go through anger about it. and you go through telling yourself it. could be different and then you get to. acceptance. When you get to acceptance, when you've lost someone or any other.

job or relationship, when you get to. acceptance, acceptance leads you to. freedom. And until you get there, you're. still just living in the past. You're. hoping that it could be different. That. is that is the best definition I I've. ever known. It's hard to apply when you. first hear it. >> because there's so much holding on to. and bargaining with and wishing things. were different and the wishing things. were different. Whether it's wishing. this tragedy didn't happen or wishing.

the mom or the dad could have been a. 10gon [music] person even though they're. a pint-sized person. It keeps the pain. alive. >> Yeah. >> Oh my gosh. It's Mel. I have an. invitation. I want you to come with me. to Vegas to experience something. extraordinary with Oprah Winfrey. >> Yes. It's the ultimate aha moment. It's. not a show. It's an experience. It's to. be felt, not just seen. >> This is at Sphere [music] and it's not a.

speech. It's not a show. It's an. immersive experience. I cannot wait to. be in the audience with you, Oprah. >> Yeah. I have had this dream for quite a. while and I want people to come along. and experience consistent aha moments of. awe, wonder and joy. >> Ah, I need wonder. I need joy. I need. the [music] connection. I cannot wait to. experience what you've put together. Aha. April 2nd through the 4th live at. Sphere. [music] It's a call to wonder. >> A call to joy.

>> To joy and the ultimate aa moment. >> Visit ahalive.com for pre-sale sign up. and travel packages. And you better go. fast. I already got my tickets. I'm. going with my daughters and some Oh my. gosh. I'll see you in the audience. >> You talked about how you had a job in. the [music] beginning hosting a show. >> Yeah. >> And then you had an awakening when you. realized through the power of your. intention, you could use this platform.

as a force for good. You know, in the. beginning, I was just I was just doing a. job just like so many people that are. listening to us and watching us right. now. I was just working at a job. But. that decision to change my job and my. work into a force. >> for good to actually use it as. not just a show to recognize it's not. just a show but you have a platform here. and you can use this to help other.

people see themselves but you know I had. got caught up into the whole you know. confrontational television. >> and My producers were so proud of. themselves because they had gotten a a a. guy to come on with his mistress and his. wife, which unheard of that you can get. the three of them together. Wow. >> On national television. So, they were on the show and I had no.

idea. I mean, I'd read the background. and he was having the affair and she was. he, this was not in our, you know, in. our preview. [clears throat] And so. he says to her on the air to his wife, he turns to his wife and he says, "Well, what you don't know is that she's. pregnant." [snorts] And I'm telling you, the audience gasped. I gasped. And I. looked at her face and I said, "Never.

again will that happen to me. Never. again." I was so angry with myself. and angry upset [clears throat] with the. producers who were so proud of. themselves and they go, "We didn't know. he was going to say that. We didn't know. he was going to say because her. humiliation. still abides with me." M. >> but was a great teacher for me cuz I. thought the worst thing you can ever do. if y'all are listening if you're. listening right now the worst thing you.

can ever do to anybody is to cause them. to be humiliated. That's why if you've. got to criticize somebody, if you have. something to say to somebody that's. going to be hurtful or is going to put. them in a position where they feel. devastated, you never ever ever do that. in front of other people. because then they have the humiliation. and then the shame of it. So. I said to myself, I c I I can't I I.

cannot live with myself doing that to. somebody. >> And I apologized to her afterwards and. him afterwards. We're on live. television, though. We're on live. television. >> I know she never got over it cuz I have. still to this day never gotten over it. And I said to my producers, "Never again. will that happen. We're not doing that. anymore." Cuz around this time, 19. in the late 1980s, I was reading Gary. Zukov's book, Seed of the Soul. And in.

that book, one of the best books of my. life actually, and. he has two chapters on intention. And he. talks about intention being one with. cause and effect. And you all know that. cause and effect is the first is the law. of karma. It is what you put out is. coming back. And when I got that, I got it. It. changed everything for me because I used.

to be such a huge people pleaser. I. didn't know how to say no. And what I. learned from the principle of intention. is that if you're saying yes because you. want to please the person, >> that is what they feel. They feel your. pleasure. They feel your acquiescence. They feel your desire to make them feel. okay. They don't know that behind it you. are resentful. You don't know. They. don't recognize that behind it you.

really didn't want to do it cuz you said. you wanted to. You said yes. >> Yeah. >> So, as soon as I got clear on, oh, the. reason why people keep coming back is. because they are feeling my intention of. wanting to please them and not wanting. to hurt their feelings. So, I don't hurt. their feelings. Not only do I not hurt. their feelings, I make them feel pretty. good. That's why when you loan money or. you give something or you're the person. who's carpooling and they always ask you. to be the carpooler, it's because they. know when they come to you, you're going. to say yes. And so when I learned to say.

no, when I learned to say no, that for. myself, I then carried that principle of. intention. I sat down with all the. producers and said, "We're no longer. going to do a show unless we come from. the point of view of intention." So when. you present me the ideas, >> I want the intention for the idea. alongside the idea. >> Yes. >> And so every show then after 1989 became. designed around the intention of how are.

we going to let people be enlightened, uplift them, see something today, hear. something today that's an aha moment for. them that changes the direction for. them. Yes, you as you're listening or. watching right now, you have a platform. right in front of your face. It's your. family. It's your community. And through. the power of your intention, you can start to be a force for good. exactly where you are. >> And I would say, let me just say to you,

if you're just at a job right now, shift the paradigm in your mind about. the why. you're doing that job. Even if you say, "Well, I'm just doing this job uh to. make money for my family because I've. got to make ends meet." Then let every. single step you take in that job, every. single move you make in that job, even. though that job may be boring and even. though that job may be irritating to. you, let it be for the love of your.

family. >> Never, ever, ever lose sight every day. you're walking out of the door. This I. do for the love of my family. This I do. to show that I am a provider and one who. can offer to my family a sense of. safety, a sense of comfort. Just that. little shift makes a difference in the. way the work day moves. And whatever the. job or the work is to be able to shift.

it to how do I use this thing that I'm. doing that is boring the hell out of me. or that is irritating to me and I got a. boss. How do I use this in service. >> to something greater than myself? How do. I use this to serve? >> And you know, I've had these. conversations with people who have. supposedly, you know, you know, dull. jobs and whatever. And I sat down with a. guy one day and by the end of the our. little conversation, he was crying. I. was saying, "So, why do you do this. work? And what are you doing it for?".

And what does he goes? Well, I'm just. just, you know, I I got to pay the. bills. And so, you're paying the bills. for what? I'm paying the bills. So my. family can eat and and you're paying the. bill so your family can eat and who is. your family and tell me about your. daughter and yeah. So when you change. the paradigm of what you're doing and. shift why you're doing it to an. intention behind doing it, it it it. lightens it. It lightens it. Cuz if we. go back to some of your teaching, the. energy you put out is the energy you get.

back. So if you are bargaining with life. and not able to accept it, the energy is. resistance. Absolutely. And if you're in. the energy of resistance, you're going. to be stuck in resistance. And so I. often ask myself, if something's not. going the way I want, what is it I'm. resisting? >> Oh, okay. So, if you're in a like, can. you put give me an example? Something's. not going the way you want and you're. starting to feel bothered by it or upset. or stuck. Yeah. >> You ask yourself, >> what am I resisting? What am I. resisting? For every every person who is.

listening to us right now, you're. listening to us right now. is you you know whether or not your life. is in flow or not. It can't flow unless. you're in flow. And so if you're out of. order, your house is out of order, your. closets, your car. I was just sharing. with somebody the other day that I used. to drive this little Chevy chevet and it. was I would do my hair on the way to. work and I'd take the rollers out and I. throw the rollers in the back and change. my at the stop signs and and then at one.

point I if you do that every day after a. while you look in your car and your car. is like a wreck and I was like coming to. my car one day and I looked in the car. and I was like whoa my life is like that. right now. This car represents my life. right now. And so I started taking them. out one roller at a time, >> one roller at a time, finding 25 cents. under the car seat, all that stuff. But. I have learned that getting out of flow. with myself, getting off center, not.

listening to this inner GPS is what. causes disruption in all the areas of of. of my of my life. I've heard you say and. that one of the most important questions. that you can ask yourself is what do I. really want? >> Want? Yeah. >> Why is that such a hard question for so. many people to answer? Because most. people that I have encountered, you know, in my life experience of. talking to thousands and thousands of. people and I used to sit after the show,

you know, with everybody and literally. talk to the audiences about where you're. from and what you want and what do you. want to do? And I'd ask that question, tell me what do you want? And women. would stand up and say, well, I just. want to be happy, Oper. I just want to. be happy. And I say, well, what would. make you happy? They'd say, well, my. children. And what's going to make you. happy when your children are no longer. in the home? What makes you happy. >> other than your children being happy? What makes you h? Most people could not.

identify that. And what does that. happiness look like for you? So, are you. going to live your dream. or are you going to live the dream. that the world has decided that. Instagram has decided that X has decided. that threads have decided. >> that you should live? What is you the. dream you hold in your heart? And the. the reason why I wanted to talk to you. about this is because you and your. audience understand that there's more.

Oh, and I started to listen to my. audience back in the when did this. happen? Late 80s, early 90s. And women. started to actually say out loud to me, Mel, you know, I've done everything. When I say, "What do you want?" They. say, "I've done everything. I got the. college degree. I'm married. I have the. house. I have the all the things. I have. the luset pots. I have the whole I have. the things. But it just feels like there's got to be. more than this. There's something more.

there's something more. And I said to my. producers, people keep saying the same thing. that they realize that there's more. And. I believe. we know what it is. And we got to show. them what it is. What they're missing is. a is is is the connection to the spirit. spiritual core within themselves. Not a. religion, which I got accused of. Overtown trying to create her own. church. Over started the church over. No, there's they're missing the essence.

[clears throat]. within themselves. They're missing being. centered in that GPS guidance for. themselves. >> So, how do we give them that? And we. started Mel doing these little clips. called Remembering Your Spirit. >> And I remember doing a show where. >> Carolyn Mays was on with her book, Anatomy of Spirit, and the audience was. watching, but I could see they had gone they had. gone somewhere else. And I stopped the. show and I said, "Hey, are you all not tracking?" And they.

said, "Well, what is she talking about. spirit?" This was in '92. >> Wow. >> In 1992. In 1992, people didn't know, weren't. familiar. They said, "Are you talking. about Jesus? Are you talking about. Moses? What are you talking about?" I. said, "No, I'm talking about you have a. mind, right? You have a body, you have a. soul, or you have a spirit." That's what. she's talking about. The soul of. yourself. There's something deeper than. just your mind that you feel in the most. quiet still moments of your being with.

yourself. >> Yeah. >> And that's the something more that. you're talking about that you're looking. for. And if you stay connected to that. thing, you will never be guided wrong. Now I can talk the talk and most days I. live it. But oh my god, when it came time to end. the show, I made one of the biggest mistakes. actually of my life and that is I didn't.

listen to that GPS. and I struggle. I mean 2012 was one of. the worst life the worst years of my. life. Every single story headline about. me was Oprah and the Struggling Own. Network. Oprah and the Struggling Own. Network. And it was hurtful and painful. to me because it was the truth. I was. struggling. I was hurting. And I was so. angry with myself. >> What did you not listen to? I did not.

listen to. the voice inside myself was so strong. telling me not to do it that I would. wake up in the middle of the night. [gasps]. and couldn't breathe. And I'd say don't. do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't. do it. Don't do it. Then I'd say, "But I. already signed. I already signed. Already said I was. going to do it.". >> You dummy. [laughter]. >> What? >> I already said. >> you're a human. Yeah. How dare you?

>> I know. I But I already said I was going. to do it and now I. >> I got to be my word. >> I got to g keep my word. >> But here's what's interesting. Let's I. Let's pull this apart because I want to. learn from you because I don't want to. wake up. >> Yeah. >> 5 years from now. When you say I have to keep my word. >> Yeah. >> We must from this point forward Oprah. add to who? >> Yeah. >> Or whom? >> To whom? >> Yeah. Am I keeping my word to the. outside life?

>> Yeah. >> Or am I keeping my word to the inside? >> And what I ultimately understand now. that that decision was because I was. keeping my word, not because I wanted to. keep my word. This is the real truth. I've never said this before. I was. keeping my word because I was trying to. please the people on the other side. H. I was trying to please I was thinking. what are they going to think of me for. changing my mind and this is what I want. you all to learn from the lesson I knew.

but didn't pay attention to you always. have the right to change your mind. if the people are in the church sitting. in the pews and you're getting ready to. walk down the aisle and you know inside. yourself I should not be marrying this. person you always have the right if you. know I talked to someone a long why are.

you getting married you you don't even. argue with each other but the. invitations have gone out you always. have the right to change your mind and. so I didn't take my own lesson from that. and I struggled I struggled I struggled. >> you know that's the thing about the. irrefutable laws of the universe. You. don't just learn them once. >> You don't learn them once. >> You have to learn them over and over. >> I have to learn that again. I knew it. I. knew it. I knew it. And that's why I was. so angry with myself. >> Why? Why do you think it was happening.

for you? >> Yeah, it was happening for me. >> So, what why if you zoom out and say. I needed that. >> because of why? What was the lesson in. that? >> The lesson in it was that you didn't. take it the first time. cuz I'd already. made that mistake. And [clears throat]. and this is what I also know that if you. don't get the lesson, it comes around. wearing a different pair of pants. >> What does it feel like in your body when. you're out of alignment? >> Oh, I was I was sick. I was I was I was.

like behind a wall. I wasn't, you know, clinically depressed, but I was I become. I became like numb and and numb and numb. to receiving, numb to giving, numb to. just like trying to fix it. How do we. fix it? How do we fix it? What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? So I and and. and and if you've ever made a mistake. and you knew before making the mistake. it was a mistake. There's nothing worse.

than being mad at yourself. Oh. >> is it where you say I knew that I knew. that I knew no knew that I knew that and. I still did it and but I also understand. that it was not being guided. I mean, you can't do better than the universe. can't do any better for you than you. waking up in the middle of the night and. you can't breathe. >> Okay? Did you hear that? If you're. waking up in the middle of the night, you can't breathe. If you're pulling. into a job that you hate going into, if. you see the text message from the person.

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passage in your blockbuster bestsellers. This is the 10th anniversary edition. What I know for sure. What I love about. this book is that it's all essays from O. magazine and that you wrote and as I. read each one, I can remember reading. it. >> Oh, really? Cuz you read every magazine. >> Oh, did I? Ever. I was a student. I was. a student. Um. >> I love this. This is on page 39. Whenever I'm faced with a difficult. decision, I ask myself, "What would I do.

if I weren't afraid of making mistake, feeling rejected, looking foolish, or. being alone?" I know for sure that when. you remove the fear, the answer you've. been searching for comes into focus. And. as you walk into what you fear, you. should know for sure that your deepest. struggle can, and if you're willing and. open, produce your greatest strength. >> Mhm. for the person who's listening right now. and like in those moments when you're.

afraid and you start to question. everything. >> Mhm. >> How do you find the truth when the fear. is so loud? Cuz the truth can feel quiet. or or scary. This reminds me of uh moving from. Baltimore to Chicago. and everybody around me telling me that. the move to Chicago was going to destroy. me and that I was living in Baltimore.

and you're you're doing well and you're. an anchor woman and you should just keep. this job. And my father, my own father. was like, "Well, you're not going to. ever find a job like this again." uh and. it was safe. But this is this is the most important. thing. Understanding that the source. whatever you call it from which you've. come.

has put you here for a greater reason. than whatever the small thing in front. of you is. whatever you're looking at is. only a piece of the picture of your. whole life. So one of the reasons why I've been able. to maintain the center of myself is. because even in that moment of struggle. with own in the beginning of building. that network I was sad I was numbed I.

was depressed I was angry with myself. but I knew trouble don't last always I. knew that that too would eventually pass. I didn't know how because I live in the. center of knowing that there's bigger. reason why I'm here. >> And I have always understood that. I've. always understood that I am a child of. the universe. I am God's child. I am. born to Vernon and Verita Lee. But my.

coming here is such a freaking miracle. My parents were only together one time. One time. They never It was literally a one. afternoon delight stand. It wasn't even. a one night stand. One time. And. I born colored. We weren't even black. then. Colored in Mississippi where the.

dream for a colored girl, the dream for a colored girl did not. exist. So this miracle that has become my life. I know exists for everybody who is. willing to tap into the source of. themselves. to that and that's what has eliminated. my my my my ultimate fears. I mean, I.

was I've been anxious about things, but. I know that ultimately I belong to. something bigger than myself and that my. reason for being here is bigger than a. job or bigger than what I could even. know. And so my. my message and my offering. to your audience is to ask the life. force. to use you for its highest good. Not you.

just tell it what you want. to use you for its highest good. I I I. [clears throat] will share this story. There was there was a producer of mine. in Baltimore. who was the richest person I'd ever seen. or known. Her name was Arlene Weiner. Her husband's a famous attorney there. And they I went to her house in when I. was 28, 29 years old. And she had us all. over. And I was like, "Wow, Arlene is.

rich.". And I went into her home and there it. is looking out the window. All these. trees in the front yard just like I. counted six trees out of her window. I thought, "Wow, if I ever get some money, I'm going to. have me some trees. I don't care about. the cars, but I'm going to have me some. trees.". And one morning I was sitting in the uh. kitchen waiting on the the water to boil.

making tea and I looked out the window. and there were the six trees. I went whoa. There were those trees that I'd seen in. Arlene's yard. And. I walked out around to the porch and I. loo counted the trees, but I couldn't. even count all of the trees. I could see. the six from the window, but I couldn't.

see the hundreds beyond the six through. the window. So, I literally You've been. to my home. I live in a forest. >> Yeah. >> I had a dream for six trees. My dream was six trees. The life force that I call God had a. bigger dream for me. And that is my. message. Whatever dream you're dreaming, >> surrender that dream to the force that. brought you here, regardless of what.

name you give that force. Because what I. know is the force by all the names that. we call God, ain't jealous about the. name. You know, it's [laughter]. ain't going to be jealous about the. name. It's not going to say, "Oh, you. didn't call me Allah. You didn't call me. Jehovah. You didn't call me God." Okay? Whatever you call that, whatever that. is, the life force that brought you. here. Lean into that dream for you. Cuz there.

is a dream for your life, for your life, for my life. Don't live in your little. small six tree dream. Don't live it live in the forest of. dreams for yourself. Lean into that. And. I think the reason why people are so. stuck because they can't see their. connection to the thing that's greater. than themselves. Your life isn't this. small. It's it it belongs to the world. It belongs to the world. The reason why. we're all here is to give to the world.

To give to myself. To feed myself. to. take the lessons that I have learned to. go forward to understand what happened. to me happened to me so that I can use. it. I was raped so that I could help. other women who were raped. I was not. seen so that I could see other people. >> All the things that I didn't get, I now. can give to other people as can you. As.

can you as you are doing that's what. it's for. When you say it's all. happening for a reason. Oh my goodness. It's happening so that it feeds and. fuels you in a way that you have more to. give. That's the lesson that we're. missing. And we're missing it because. we're so we're so narrowly tracked. We're like in our phones and and you. think your life is this big. You think. your life is this big, but it belongs to. the world. Belongs to the world. And I.

want you to really pay attention because. I remember moments in my life where my. life felt so small. >> The job I hated, the relationship I. didn't have the courage to get out of, the debt that I was in, the anxiety I. was feeling. >> I've been there, too. I've been there. And. >> And here's the thing that is hard to. believe, but I'm going to say it anyway. >> Yeah. If you can get yourself out of bed. and if you can get yourself out the. door, you can do a little experiment.

where you can prove to yourself that you. are powerful beyond measure. In fact, I. just did it this morning. It was 5:55. and I had come out of the hotel and I. was walking across a crosswalk and there. was a woman that was walking that had. her shoulders down and was looking at. the ground and was like frowny face and. walking and you know it's 5:55 and as I. walked up to her I smiled and just said. good morning and she perked right up and. said well good morning and.

we just smiled and had this positive. energy exchange. And that tiny little thing that you miss. that's right in front of your face is. this enormous power that you have. through your energy and your attitude to. flip a switch inside somebody else. >> I know. >> And when you do that, you are being of. service. And the energy that you're. putting out, despite how horrible things. may be that are going on in your life.

right now, it shows you. >> and it shifts it. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't pay the bills. >> It doesn't pay the bills, >> but it shifts something in you to know. that you still have the power to. positively impact somebody else. And I. think that's how it begins. >> Yeah. >> At least that's how it began for me. >> Yeah. >> Is to notice. And you already said it. Every person Yes. You listening, you. have a platform. Your platform is your. family, your roommate, the people that. you work with. It's the person that you. meet or you pass and don't smile to.

>> Yeah. >> And recognizing the power. that you have to impact people. positively is how you start to center. yourself in a deeper source. >> That is number one. That certainly. recognizing that. And the other really. crucial thing is the religion that I. practice which is gratitude. I will tell you beyond a shadow of any. doubt that I have for any human being.

who's listening to us right now that if. you start a. sincere consistent practice of gratitude. your life will shift because it is. energetically vibrationally. um it causes your energy to change and. the vibration to change and also what. you then begin to attract into your life. to change. It's the single greatest. thing anybody can do from where you are.

No matter how down you are, how stuck. you are, is you start looking at what. you have instead of what you haven't. And you just practice it. You just you. just do five things. If you can't do. five, do three. And if you can't get to. three, look at your breath. Breathe. Breathe. Breathe. You're still. breathing. And I'm thinking for myself. when I'm in uh in flow is when I'm in my. period of gratitude. I am most in flow. and my life most works most perfectly.

when I am in in the gratitude state. This is the thing I know people. listening to this think well okay easy. to do because you're Oprah. I got to be. Oprah by doing that. M. >> that's how I got to be where I am by. doing that. Um. I you know I have I have had a practice. of honoring that source that's greater. than myself since I was a little girl. I. mean I grew up speaking in the church.

and having the people say to my. grandmother, "Hatty May, this here is a. talking child. You got yourself a. talking child here." And so talking and. using my voice and being able to express. to other people and I realize now so. people talk about what is your purpose? What is your purpose? What is your. purpose? How do you find your purpose? No matter who you are listening, if you. were to pass away today, the people who. eulogize you would connect the dots of.

your life. >> and at your funeral or memorial service. would talk about what you offered, what. you brought to them. And wherever you. are in the journey, you are already. creating a thread of purpose that flows. through everything that you've done. And. mine is inspiration. and has been since I was four years old. speaking in the Kaziesco church standing.

on a stage. reciting and people saying my my my my. little child can talk. and then being a great an ortor and. winning all of the oratory contests when. I was in school. That thread of speaking. is what prepared me for the first. audition when I sat down to do the radio. show and then being recognized and. brought into television. That thread has.

led me to sitting the Mel Robbins. podcast. [laughter] Okay. That thread. has brought me here today. And everyone. listening to us has a thread. What's. your thread? What is carried through? What is the thing or theme that has been. through the course of your life? Mine is. inspiration. What's yours? >> Encouragement. >> There you go. >> Yeah. Encouragement. >> Encouragement. >> Yes. >> That's exactly what you do. >> Yeah. Cuz I think it's easy to have the. information or to get it.

>> Yeah. >> But if you believe and convince yourself. it won't work for you, >> Yeah. >> you won't do the things that change your. life. >> That's the difference. That's what you. do. And so I weave encouragement through. everything because I know it's what I've. always needed. >> Yeah. >> Because when you can't when you don't. believe in yourself, being able to. borrow somebody else's belief in your. ability can really help. And that's what. encouragement. >> that's what you do. >> Yeah. >> Girl, you're on it. [laughter]. You know, there's a as you were talking.

about purpose, it reminded me of one of. my favorite ways to think about purpose, which is that purpose is not the thing. that you do. Purpose is the thing that. happens in others. >> when you do the thing you do. >> Oo, I like that one. I need to write. that down. >> Purpose [laughter] is not the thing that. you do. >> Purpose is not the thing that you do. >> Yeah. Purpose is the thing that happens. in others when you do the thing that you. do.

>> I love that, Miss Mel, >> because it it really weaves together. what you were saying about how purpose. doesn't have to be this big thing that. you put on Instagram. It's actually. something very quiet that you practice. every day. >> Yeah. >> And it also ties in what Maya said to. you about it's it's how you make people. feel. >> Yeah. And as you start doing the small. thing, the small thing leads I think the. problem. One of the I actually do think it's a.

problem um with the way social media. works is that I think a lot of people. are just constantly bombarded. with the lives of other people and. trying to keep up with that. Mh. >> And so you think your life is supposed. to look like that and and it's just. coming from every direction. Every. direction is telling you and you haven't. gotten still enough with yourself. The. answers are not out there. They just are.

not out there. You know. the voice of God. God silence is the. language of God. >> Silence is the language of God. And you. can't hear it unless you are still. enough, quiet enough within yourself. The moment. you're asking out there and asking. everybody and what should I do and what. should I do and what should I do? That's. the moment that you get still. And even. if still is just sitting on the toilet.

seat with the door closed, with the door closed. Well, for some of. us, that's the only place that we can. everybody just to be still, to be able to feel what that thing is. It's trying to get through. There's. nobody born that doesn't have it. >> You know, I have a I have a very good. friend who was giving advice to one of. my daughters, >> funny enough, and he was saying to her, "Listen,

you got a lot of gifts to give. Don't. you dare show up in heaven with your. pockets full with that song you didn't. sing or that book you didn't write or. that smile you didn't share. >> Is there anything left that you're still. wanting to share or teach? Um, I was standing. in the sphere in Las Vegas after the. Bono concert and I'd gone with friends. and we'd had the. Bono and when it was all over,

I walked to the edge of where we'd been. seating and they were all behind me and. everybody was over to the side and they. were all cheering each other because it. was the first performance of you two, Bono at the Sphere. But I was standing alone on the side and. I had that feeling, the same one I felt when I was 5 years. old on the back porch. And it was as. clear to me.

It said, "Wow, what just happened here? You could take people to the edge of the. universe. You could use this. stage, this screen, this window into the. universe to allow people to connect to. themselves in a way that they have never. experienced before. You could connect them to the universe. and to themselves and to each other.

That is what that feeling said to me. It. was a voice and it was a feeling. And it. was exactly the same as when I was 5. years old. It said, "Huh, this is an incredible arena, an. incredible venue. I I didn't even know. what I had just seen, but it's not being used to its maximum. potential.". >> You could use it to its maximum. potential. How do you do that and share. the experience of what it means to be.

fully alive with people? How do you. connect people to the light within. themselves. using the tools of this space? That's. what the voice said to me. This is this. was 2023. >> Wow. >> 2023. >> So almost three years ago. >> It's almost three years ago. And in the. beginning, everybody thought was. thinking of it as a show. And I was. like, it's not a show. >> It's an experience. It's to be felt, not.

just seen. How do we bring the team. together that can create feelings for. people? And so now three years later, this dream is being scored by one of the. greatest musical composers on earth, Max. Richtor. >> So it's an immersive musical. light experience of people coming. together to ignite the light within.

ourselves. >> You know what I think is so amazing. about this? And I want you to really. consider everything that Oprah has. poured into you and shared with you. today. >> I think it's easy when you're standing. in a moment and you look backwards. >> Yeah. >> To see how all the dots connect. >> Yeah. >> And it requires deep faith. to stand in the present moment. >> and believe that where you are is. leading you somewhere. >> Yeah. And it is much larger and grander.

than anything you could possibly imagine. for yourself if you keep walking in that. faith. If you keep telling the truth. If. you keep staying centered. >> and grounded [clears throat] in your. intention. >> and you follow these fundamental laws. that you have taught us. The energy you. put out is the energy you get back. >> I think it's really cool that even for. somebody like you. >> Yeah. who has achieved things that are. beyond our wildest imaginations that.

here you are doing something that even 5. years ago was not even on your radar. >> Wasn't on my radar. >> Was not something you would have. possibly imagined was a thing. >> No. >> And so it proves yet again. >> Yeah. how when you're clear about the. way you're showing up and serving the. world and you're clear about the reason. why you're here, which is inspiration. >> Yeah. >> That life does rise up. >> Yeah. And I my my prayer has always been.

use me. Show me how. Show me. Show me. Show me. Show me. What is the next? Is. there a next? Oh, you just want me to. rest? I'll do that, too. uh. by actually being in conversation with. the life force within me. has led me to the highest grounds. possible for myself and I've been asking. that how can I be used I mean I am 72. and very much aware of the urgency of. time.

very much aware that I have. one solid good decade left very much. aware. So I'm looking at my life as. though I am going I have one solid. decade left to give and offer the. message that I came to give and to do it. with clarity and do it with love and do. it without ego and to do it as an.

offering to say this is why I came. I. think we should all steal what you said. >> when you said, "I believe I have a. decade. to. do what I came to do.". >> Yeah. >> And I don't care how young or old you. are. Imagine if you started living as if. >> you had a decade. >> You had a decade to do what you came. here to do. >> And how that focus shifts your.

intention. You know, the big dream for. me right now is the sphere, but I also. realize in every day. um. in every in my everyday life that every. encounter that people are that people. are seeing me and that I feel like it is. my responsibility to actually also see. them as well. >> It's beautiful. >> Yeah. >> I want to read to you page 79. >> Mhm. >> What I know for sure. >> Okay. What did I know then?

>> Well, when you make loving others the. story of your life, >> oh, >> there's never a final chapter because. the legacy continues, >> you lend your light to one person and he. or she shines it on another and another. and another. And I know for sure that in. the final analysis of our lives, when. the to-do lists are no more, when the. frenzy is finished, when our email boxes. are empty, the only thing that will have. any lasting value is whether we've loved.

others and whether [music] they've loved. us. And I can tell you for sure that I. know for sure that you loved us. >> and we all love you. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> Oprah Winfrey, what are your parting. words? [sighs and gasps].

My parting words are, "You were born. to fulfill the dream of your life here. on Earth. You were born. into this planet, into the density of. this gravitational [music]. pull to fulfill. the dream of your life and of the. creator's dream of your life here on.

earth. Get about the business of doing. that. [laughter]. >> You heard her. Get about the business of. doing that. That's right. about the. business. >> I love you, Oprah Winfrey. >> I love you too, Mel. Thank you for. having me. >> Oh my gosh. Thank you. And thank you. Thank you for making the time. [music]. Thank you for spending it with me and. Oprah. And thank you for being generous. with this conversation with the people. in your life. It is a gift that you can. give to other people that will inspire.

them, awaken them, remind them. And in. case no one else tells you today, as. your friend, I wanted to be sure to tell. you that I love you. I believe in you. And I believe in your ability to create. a better life. Now get about the. business of freaking doing it. >> Of freaking doing it. [laughter]. >> Can you believe that episode just. happened? I mean, it's 24 hours later. and I'm now sitting back in the seat. I. cannot believe Oprah was there. I'm so. thrilled that you were here with us. I. know that it stirred something deep.

[music] inside you. And here's what I. hope. I hope that you are generous with. this episode. that if it awakened. something in you, if you were reminded. of something that you needed to hear, that you copy and paste this link and. you share this with everybody in your. life because [music]. that episode of the Mel Robbins podcast. is an offering to the world and to. everybody that you love. [music] So, thank you in advance for being generous. and helping us spread the power of good.

around [music] the world. I really. appreciate that. Okay, I know that now. that you're inspired, you want to watch. something else. This is going to be an. extraordinary episode for you to watch. next. And I'll welcome you in the moment. you hit play.