🚨Trump’s Own Case JUST BACKFIRED EVEN MORE…

Donald Trump just got smacked down by. the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in a. three judge procurium decision. They. rejected Donald Trump and his lawyer's. application for a stay after a federal. judge, Judge Kathleen Williams, found. that there was no jurisdiction. uh over Donald Trump's collusive. settlement between Donald Trump and. Donald Trump's uh government, where. Donald Trump tried to create this slush.

fund with January 6th insurrectionists, and where Donald Trump tried to. basically give himself immunity from any. tax related investigations into Donald. Trump not paying taxes in the past. The. federal judge issued nonmonetary. sanctions against Donald Trump's lawyer, Donald Trump's lawyer, Breurto. And also. the judge made a ruling that Donald. Trump and Burrito because of the. collusion attendant to the settlement.

and the fact that uh the court. ultimately found that this was a. settlement that was uh filled with. collusion and improprieties that they. couldn't go out and basically call this. a legitimate settlement or say that the. this was done in good faith. And you'll. recall that there were dozens of judges. who filed a legal brief in order to try. and uh intervene and they asked the. court to reopen the matter. And so. basically the court made a finding the.

district court did that the initial. settlement uh was done improperly that. the court was being used improperly. Uh. there's still certain matters that the. court would need to rule on. So there's. technically not a final judgment before. Judge Williams in the district court. And so the 11th Circuit was being asked. by Trump and his lawyers for a stay of. what the district court ruled on uh. regarding Judge Kathleen Williams. nonmonetary sanctions. basically.

referring Donald Trump's lawyer for a. state bar investigation where the guy. could potentially lose his license and. barring Donald Trump or Breurto or. anyone who was involved when Trump sued. the IRS from saying that this was a. valid settlement and the Trump regime. was like, you know, this is going to. chill our free speech. It's a prior. restraint. And the 11th Circuit said. really two main issues here. Number one, there's not yet a final judgment where.

we can even really rule on the appeal. This is a non-monetary sanctions order. by a district court judge. And so the. district court judge is free to uh make. that ruling. Um and then more broadly, it's not a prior restraint on speech. This is sanctions. Um and the judge made. a finding and we give a lot of deference. to that. I want to bring in Harry Litman. from the Talking Feds YouTube channel, Talking Feds Substack and podcast. Harry, great to see you as always. And.

so, everybody might remember that ruling. by Judge Williams. You may want to. remind people of just again what the. ruling was, but this 11th Circuit is not. staying uh that ruling. And so, the. referral to the state bar, Trump's. lawyer, now will face disciplinary. proceedings or at least an. investigation, a referral. We'll see. what the uh Florida State Bar ultimately. decides. And this could have broader. ramifications on, you know, I guess if. Donald Trump is trying to claim that.

there's some settlement agreement that. prevents investigations into his failure. to pay taxes or potential criminality or. whatever else is potentially waved. He. can't hold this up, it seems, and say. this is a valid. I mean, the judge is. basically saying you can't say that this. was a settlement done in this court. you. want to say it was something else, but. at the heart of that settlement, Harry, it says this was a settlement reached in. this case, um, you know, which the. federal judge, Kathleen Williams, took. issue with as well. What do you make of.

this? You bet it could have collateral. consequences. Look, their whole scheme, uh, Ben, was to just vault over the. courts with this voluntary dismissal. They thought it was very clever and. there was nothing the court could do. about it. Do you remember Todd Blanch in. his confirmation hearing saying, "Oh, Tish Tosh, I you know, plus I know the. 11th circuit law better, etc." And now, guess what? This is the main event. The. Department of Justice, which had stayed.

studiously away from the litigation. That's one of the things Judge Williams. focused on in saying the whole thing is. collusive, now has had to come in. This. is all continues to be the strangest. caption I've ever seen. You have. Department of Justice as Appalles. That. would normally mean they won except. they're fighting everything that. Williams did because they're in lock. step with Trump. You have 35 judges who. now are on the caption uh interested.

parties and apples because they were the. ones who actually made the arguments. that won. You have Trump personally as. the plaintiffs, but they were really. hoping to just get outside the whole. system of you bring a real case, you. have real investigation, the DOJ uh. actually follows through as it's. supposed to do, which it didn't do in. many ways here, and then you settle.

Instead, it was all completely phony and. everything that Todd Bland said to win. confirmation saying, "Oh, we're not. going to go forward with a fund.". Meaningless, completely empty because. it's a contract. It's Trump's to. enforce. But if you have the o and. there's this is the only uh there's. something in the eastern district of. Virginia but this is really the case. that could wind up saying this was a. collusive uh and therefore there was no.

jurisdiction here in the first place and. by the way there is no settlement. agreement not for purposes of what we're. doing here imagine if that's what. Williams winds up finding and uh the the. indication are strong that she will. Now, what do you do with your whole um. argument that um you settled a real case. and that's why you had this fund, that's. why you have the amnesty. All of a.

sudden, uh no, you didn't. And uh. there's no basis. There's nothing left. I I know people have been thinking, well, maybe they can get around it. another way. Federal Tors Claims Act. Uh-uh. If you know the you have to have. money allocated by Congress. Congress. has allocated money to settle bonafide. disputes but this ain't one and the. court says that that's the biggest. danger that makes the entire scheme. unravel. Then in addition everything you.

say there is a risk um of what how it. works out for Blanch. there's a risk for. how it works out for the lawyers that. Trump had in play. Um, but the thrust of. the 11th circuit argument, excuse me, opinion was this hasn't this is not. final yet. She hasn't set legal fees for. the possible contempt. Yeah, she's. referred she sent her report to New.

York, but any adverse action is going to. be taken by New York. All she did was. send it along. So you have no call the. normal uh DOJ sound the alarm emergency. terrible you must take it away. They. just said no we must not. So that means. unless by and I I just can't imagine. this but you know for for uh to be. comprehensive unless somehow they get. the Supreme Court to reverse this and. it's just nothing the Supreme Court.

should be involved in at this point. They are in the clutches of Judge. Williams and she's going to make factual. findings and she's going to try to take. discovery and she's got the 35 judges to. listen to since the DOJ is just going to. keep handing her a the a complete echo. and repeat of what Trump has said. That. is the worst possible posture for them. Uh now after it's all said and done and.

she's decided legal fees and everything. and has slapped them around, then they. can try to challenge on the merits in. the uh 11th circuit. But good luck with. that on this kind of case where you. really have to let a district court you. know decide and go forward about how its. own jurisdiction was abused. So for a. scheme that started with the whole uh. idea of just staying out of the federal. courts but nevertheless getting the.

advantage of a settlement, they're now. uh that that part has been completely. unwound and they are just looking flat. out at being in front of the very judge. whom they obviously try to deceive, defraud uh to decide their fate and the. fate of this amnesty. tax stuff and. technically also the slush fund. implications here are a lot more than a. little boo boo for Todd Blanch.

>> You know, Donald Trump brought this in. his individual capacity against the. government, against the IRS, um against Treasury, against him, you. know, against the government that he. controls. In a normal situation, the. first person that the federal judge. would call in this discovery would be. like Trump, you know, or who are the. Treasury Department officials involved. And so I'm fascinated to watch what's.

that move going to look like because. Trump didn't file this in his capacity. as Trump, the president of the United. States. If she wanted to take his. deposition, she could at this point get. him. It would that would be the easy. call actually. Now, she may in her own. mind do an apex analysis just like at. hawk and say, "You know what? I'm going. to ask the person most knowledgeable at. IRS. Give me the person most. knowledgeable at Treasury and then give. me the person most knowledgeable on.

Trump's side and then I suppose what the. Trump side will do and we'll play this. out. They'll claim attorney client. privilege. They'll try to do all these. things about why they can't testify to. which point the federal judges who. intervene may invoke crime fraud. exceptions. And so we could be heading. down that route of crime fraud. exception. So follow that area. And then. on the Treasury Department IRS side, let. me make a bold prediction that's not all.

that bold. They're going to designate. people who actually aren't the most. knowledgeable. We've seen this in other. cases. So they'll throw up their people. with, you know, who they probably will. tell basic facts the day before their. hearing. They'll show up, the judge or. whoever will do an inquiry. It'll be. clear they don't know. Then the judge. will escalate sanctions over there. And. so this could take place for the. remainder of the Trump term. And some. people may be saying justice delayed is.

justice denied. But actually what the. 11th circuit I think is also doing is. saying look these nonmonetary sanctioned. remedies by the judge are pretty potent. and powerful not final rulings but can. Trump then go around and blanch can they. be taking these actions now in their. individual capacity while this sanction. order is in place saying this isn't a. real settlement and conduct yourself.

accordingly and Breto is going to really. feel the impact in terms of a uh state. bar proceeding against him, which is. going to be kind of notable. And then if. this one lingers. to the end of this term into an. accountability phase where the Trump. regime is out, could this actually be a. pending case where you'll see criminal. referrals? Because, in my opinion, clear. criminal conduct has taken place. the.

court was being used in a racketeering. enterprise and is it actually a better. scenario because the justice department. isn't going to prosecute Trump to let. this one linger for a few years. Let the. judge's order effectually function as a. way to render in effectual the. settlement agreement and Trump's ability. to use this as immunity and then you get. past these Trump years and then it gets.

put into high gear and the judge takes a. different posture of criminal referral. So I'm thinking a lot of steps ahead but. I wonder if that's where this could. head. Harry, >> totally. Look, there's going to be a. drip drip drip of this in Judge uh. Williams's court and she's already been. essentially greenlighted. She now says, "I want to take a deposition of Trump as. you say and they go up screaming to the. 11th circuit. The 11 circuit's already, you know, said, uh, right now this is.

for Williams to conduct. Maybe they'll. hear certain ways of cribbing it and. maybe they won't. But, uh, it it just. completely puts them at the mercy of the. very place they didn't want to be. And. I'll say one more thing. uh if this. emerges as it certainly right now. portends into a finding, you know, this. she she's technically not talking about. the IRS case, but she's talking about a.

separate fraud which would require and. make a solid finding of collusion there. One more thing is the a future DOJ would. be more than within its rights to say. what you think there's tax amnesty. Actually that happened only by means of. a collusive uh settlement. That might be. another criminal thing but we certainly. have no um command or enforcable.

agreement not to look into your taxes, Donald Trump. all of this and and I'll. just say, you know, you it's we we. absorb all these outrages week to week. and because of the quiescent uh. Republican Congress, you let it some of. them slide. This is really up there. The. January 6 pardons, the reprisal. prosecutions, and then I'd say this are. just uh completely top of the charts for. potential impeachable offenses. It's. such a total selfdealing and kind of.

radioactive for Blanch and Trump. violation of their take care duties. It's really tailor made for impeachment. proceedings if that's the way Democrats. decide to go. >> Everybody, make sure you subscribe to. Harry Litman's YouTube channel, Talking. Feds. After this video ends, search. Talking Feds and go and tell Harry I say. hello. It's on YouTube. Thanks for. watching. Thanks, Harry. >> Thank you, Ben. Breaking news right now. My brothers and I wrote a book. It's.

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