Jack Smith FINALLY SURFACES and gets REVENGE on Trump!!!
Wow, special counsel Jack Smith has. finally surfaced and he is turning the. tables on Donald Trump getting his. revenge. He gave an interview with our. friend Nicole Wallace on MS Now and he. was calling out Donald Trump for. destroying the Justice Department. He. was calling out Donald Trump for. attacking the rule of law. Let me show. you here a special counsel Jack Smith. declares that the United States of. America is now facing the greatest. attack on the rule of law in our.
nation's history as we approach. America's 250th. Here, play this clip. >> you led. >> Yeah, well, you know, I was a career. prosecutor. I worked in the Justice. Department and other prosecutors'. offices. for near on 30 years and I don't know if. your viewers know this, but I work in. Republican and Democratic. administrations over and over. I was the. acting US attorney in the first Trump. administration in Nashville, Tennessee. And that administration appointed me um.
to a position running a war crimes. tribunal for the State Department. So, I have. investigated cases focusing on the facts. and the law throughout my career. We did. this case the same way under the same. standards and, you know, the thing. that's I think important for your. viewers to know is those standards are. not meant to change from one. administration to the next and in my. experience until now they haven't. And so, you know, I think we are facing. an attack on the rule of law that is. different in kind and scope to anything.
I've seen in my lifetime. And one of the reasons I wanted to be. with you here today in advance of the. 4th of July celebrating the birth of a. country that we all love. is to celebrate the public servants who. do this work, the people I spent. my career working shoulder to shoulder. with. I loved being a prosecutor and. part of it was I loved being around. these sort of people. and uh it angers me to see them. victimized, uh to see them demonized for.
doing their jobs. Uh I think it's really important that we. stand up for them. and let them know that there are a lot. of people out there. who back them. and who are with them. And it's not just. the people who've been targeted and. fired for no reason for doing their. jobs. It's also the people still in the. Justice Department today. Uh there are a. lot of good career prosecutors. who right now are working under. incredibly difficult circumstances. Uh. and they're still trying to do the right. thing. And uh these are not.
self-promoters. These are not people who. are going to go out and uh you know, crow about their achievements. Uh we. need to uh hold them up and celebrate. them because they're part of what makes. this country great. >> Some of the. >> Jack Smith then talked about how he. travels around the country and even the. world. People come up to him all the. time and he said, "By and large, even if. people disagree with me, people actually. care about ethics. They care about the. facts. Some people are misinformed," he.
said, "in this political climate that we. live in," he said, "but you know, you'd. be surprised that by and large, people. want justice and accountability and the. key is just getting people accurate. info." Play this clip. >> Do you think we still have a common. definition of integrity? >> I I think we I think we do, but I I also. for me personally, if I'm going to have that discussion, like I said, I I travel around and I go. to places where people don't expect me. to to be. I I do uh events athletic. events where I travel and I'll be in.
like rural areas of different parts of. our country. And people will come up and. talk. >> During sporting events, right? >> Yeah, yeah. I I do I ride bikes, [laughter] things like that. But I I go. out in these places and I talk to. different people. People come up to me. and it's it's interesting because they. don't expect me to be there. >> Mhm. >> And. I have to say, the vast majority of. people are really appreciative of of my. service and the service of our team. But. even when they're not, um. if you engage in a discussion with. people and you're open to hearing them. and not just kind of telling them what. you think, I I actually do think that people agree.
that integrity is a good thing. >> Do they believe that the claims that Do. they Do they believe the facts? I mean, do you Do they ask you about the cases. you brought and do they believe you? >> Well, it it depends on who you're. talking about, but often the people who. are more skeptical know less about the. facts. And I think one of the things uh that's. hard for me in this process is, you know, I'm a facts guy. Facts matter. I'm really big on that. >> [laughter]. >> And uh. and you know, when you go into a. courtroom, that's all that matters, right? And so, and you know that you're.
going to get your turn to present the. facts and then they can present theirs. and there's a process. Um how we communicate with each other. right now, it's very hard to do that and. very foreign to someone like me who was. raised as a prosecutor. You're talking in a courtroom, not on. the courtroom steps. And uh I think that's harder because a. lot of the people I think who uh have. resistance to what we do, they're just. not versed in in the facts. And you. know, not everybody wants to read a. hundred whatever page report. I get it.
Um but I think, you know, this this goes. to the DOJ going forward. My view is. that going forward, I I think we can't. get away from the issues of integrity. and doing things the right way and facts. and law. But I also think people like me who kind. of were raised on that and know that, we've got to start listening more to. people who know how to communicate and. and choose to communicate more. innovative ways cuz a lot of the people. that I bump into and talk to, um. no one's tried to communicate with them. No one's tried to give them the facts in.
a way that's actually easy for them to. digest. And so, you know, very foreign. to a courtroom guy like me, uh but I. think it's a a step that we got to be. talking about. >> Special counsel Jack Smith then talks. about how the Justice Department has. essentially become paralyzed at this. point. It can't do its work at all under. the Trump regime. The presumption of. regularity has been destroyed by the. Trump regime. Federal judges from both. sides of the aisle, appointed by.
Democratic and Republican presidents, are calling out the Trump regime DOJ, and Jack Smith says, "Once you lose that. trust capital, you're over." Here, play. this clip. >> Like Paul Weiss and others. What do you. make of the damage they're doing to our. democracy at a moment you describe as. dire? >> Yeah, well, I think one of the problems, uh, I mean, there's several layers, right? One of the problems right today, besides the the retribution. prosecutions, is that the Justice Department can't do. its job, right? If you go to court.
>> Explain that. >> Well, if you go to court and the judges. don't trust you, you can't do the basic. things that you need to do to represent. the American people in court. And we. have seen judges across the country, uh, say they can't trust prosecutors. anymore. And that has such a cascading. effect on any sort of case. Uh, and, you know, I can't count how. many opinions, but one opinion like that. in my career would have been seismic. People could not would not know what to. do if a court said, you know, trust.
that's been built over generations has. been lost in days, right? And that's. happening every day. And so, regardless. of what you think politically, they're just not effective at doing. their job anymore. They've jettisoned. expertise, right? And so, we have a. situation where. we've got rid of people who know how to. protect our national security, and we think that that's somehow not. going to have an effect on our national. security. Uh, you know, an example I can. give you, uh, Brian Driscoll. I don't.
know if you know who he is. He he was. the. >> a great video at the beginning. Um, it's. a kind of rally the troops, it seemed, from the outside. >> Yeah, I mean, he's a folk hero in the. FBI. If you were casting for. >> Yeah. >> a hero, >> Right. >> That's what they look like, right? >> Jack Smith. >> [laughter]. >> Um and and just for for your viewers, uh. this is a guy, career agent, you know, mob investigator, SWAT team, hostage. rescue, served overseas, Medal of Valor. or bravery medals, all these things, and. an expert in counterintelligence.
They got rid of him because he stood up. for agents who were being targeted. improperly. You can't tell me. you cannot tell me our country is as. safe as it was when people like that are. being let go and fired. for no reason. >> Special counsel Jack Smith talks about. an example from when he resigned as. special counsel. He goes, "Look, I had. to hire lawyers. The Trump regime is. threatening to throw me in prison, so I. hire a law firm and boom, the Trump. regime immediately goes after that law.
firm." Let's play this clip. >> You know, I I can't really comment on. other people's choices. I I I would say. >> Would it help? >> Well, I I think my perspective on this. is that in the moment we're in, which is. a pretty dire moment, right? What we're. facing, that we should be uplifting the. people who are doing the right thing. And I you know, I'll give you an example. from from my life. I resigned as special counsel. Uh I know I need to get a lawyer because. the president has said he wants to jail. me uh for doing my job. And so I retained lawyers, Covington and.
Burling. Uh. as soon as that becomes public, the. president and the Justice Department. target that law firm. And they do it because they don't want. me to have counsel. They don't want to. have anyone represent me. And what happened next was the very day. that happened, Nicole, the lawyers at the firm called me up and. said, "Jack, don't worry about it. We're there for. you." They did not blink for a second. And as you know, that's very different. than how some other law firms behaved. I think we should focus on things like.
that is separating a firm like Covington. and Burling from other ones that didn't. show courage to come forward. >> Well, right. The one. >> Special Counsel or former Special. Counsel Jack Smith talks about how, you. know, a lot of prosecutors that he. knows, they don't want to be involved in. these Trump retribution cases. Let's. play this clip. >> From my limited exposure to people in. DOJ and the FBI from my time in. government is they don't really want to. go do other things. They want this to be their life's work, protecting the country's national. security.
Um will you talk a little bit about the. the price people have paid who have been. purged for political purposes? >> Yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of the. agents and prosecutors I've worked with. in and to be clear, not just in Special. Counsel's office, uh but throughout my career in a bunch. of different positions I've had in the. Justice Department. Uh this is the. culmination of what they wanted to do. It's why they went to law school. Uh and. it's their way of of serving our. country. And we've seen so many times in. these uh retribution cases where. prosecutors wouldn't be a part of it. You know, prosecutors in Minnesota who.
are like, I'm not going to investigate. the family member of a shooting victim. I'm not doing that. Um prosecutors who. wouldn't go through with uh retribution. um. prosecutions. And those people give up a. lot. This is their whole career. A lot. of them, you know, this isn't a. lucrative uh sort of profession for a. lawyer in terms of what uh you could do. in private practice. Um they have to. support their families. And one thing I. have hope about is I I think the. traditions in the department, the people. that draw to so strong, um that we're.
going to have to rehabilitate department. for sure, but there's a lot of people. still there, still in place, wanting to. do the right thing, wanting to follow. the facts and the law, not be a part of. any retribution campaign. Uh and I think for me, one of the things. I see as I go around and talk to folks, and I try to travel around the country a. lot and see different people and talk to. different perspectives about this, is that. those people, it really matters to them. if they know they're being supported.
Part of this campaign is to make people. feel like isolated and feel like they. don't have people backing them up. And. so I just think it's really important. I. want to express my support. I think. everybody else should express their. support. Um, it's not it's something. with meaning and it's also something. that matters. >> I mean Chris Wray was a. >> He then talks about the Trump regime. pardoning January 6th insurrectionists. I'll show you this right here. >> You'll be okay someday. >> What do you say about the fact that you. developed that you see I know you don't.
watch a ton of news, but but you see. enough to know that the. the basic principle of recidivism likely. applies to the election case. The things. that you charged are a lot of the same. kinds of stories we cover. What is the. cost of someone not being held. accountable for their crimes? >> Yeah, I mean. if you talk about the pardons of these. these people convicted for the violence. on January 6th, right? There's all sorts. of costs. Um, there's the obvious cost. of just recidivism. Um, these are people. who committed their crimes in the name.
and in the interest of Donald Trump and. he's returned the favor, right? By. pardoning them. Uh, that sends one message to them. Uh, a message I'm equally concerned about is. the message that it sends to law. enforcement. Um, supporting law enforcement should not be. a political issue. It should not be a. Republican Democrat red blue thing. And. when I see people like Harry, uh, Harry. Dunn who was here before, uh, who put. his life on the line to protect others. and seeing him be smeared and vilified.
Uh, I don't understand that. That is and. I think more people who understand the. actual facts of that, I don't think most. people are okay with that. Um, it's. deeply wrong and I I have a concern. because we've seen that sort of thing. and the incentives it's set up. >> What do you make of. >> Then Nicole Wallace asks, "So, do you. expect to be indicted?" And Jack Smith. said, "I don't worry about that. I got. to live the life I live every damn day. and I'm going to keep on fighting for. the rule of law. I don't worry about his threats. But I do worry about this country and.
I'm going to devote and dedicate my life. to making sure that the rule of law is. protected here. Play this clip. >> I don't want to see uh people run from. public service because of that. possibility. >> Do you expect to be indicted? >> Listen, I. Donald Trump has made a bunch of. statements. >> [clears throat]. >> He said he would indict you, yes. >> I'll tell you Nicole, I honestly do not. spend a lot of time thinking about the. things he says about me and his threats. about me. Um. I'm real focused on the people who I.
work with, looking out for them. I'm. real focused on how the Justice. Department's going to be better going. forward, things like that. In my situation, I did my job the right. way. I had a all-star team. I mean. Nicole, the agents on my case, if I were. to walk you through all the awards. they've won throughout, you know, generations of administrations, we would. be here all night. These were superstars. And I'm much more concerned that those. people um. get to serve in the department, get to.
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