DOGE Insider EXPOSES MUSK’S SECRETS…Before HE QUITS

Well, it seems we need to audit Dodge. It seems like Dodge has been the least. efficient thing with the government. Elon Musk promised 2 trillion in cuts. and now he's saying maybe 150 billion, but that all seems BS as well. I think. we need to investigate and look into. what the heck Dodge was doing. Was it. ever about efficiency? I don't think so. Or was it about taking the data of. people, getting access to people's. private and medical information or.

social security information and other. sensitive data. Is Is that what it's. about? And by the way, you don't even. have to, you know, take what I'm saying. in terms of investigating or auditing. Dodge. Let's talk about what one of. Donald Trump's other top advisors, Steve. Bannon, called for this past week at a. conference held by Semaphore. He said it. needs to be audited. What was Elon Musk. actually doing? Watch Steve Bannon say. it. Play this clip. We need to have a very specific. accounting of what he found as far as.

fraud goes and and waste. And I mean. details. Treasury's got to sign off. that, OMB's got to sign off, and every. department head. We need to know exactly. what it found cuz he went from 2. trillion a year to 1 trillion a year to. 150 billion dollars next year with. nothing this year. None of this makes. sense. The cuts you've seen that have. been announced are programmatic. Whether it's USAID or DOE, that's a. totally different thing. None of it makes sense. I can't believe.

I'm saying it. At least there I agree. with what Bannon's saying. You know, remember when they were saying first. Elon Musk is the leader, and then they. were saying no, Amy Gleason's the. leader. And it's like like who's Keyser. Söze, right? From Usual Suspects. Who's. Amy Gleason? Who is this Amy Gleason. person leading this? So, we want to dig. into the facts here at the Midas Touch. Network about what is actually going on. So, why don't we speak to a former. career staffer at the US Digital. Services, someone by the name of Maurice. Vinton. Maurice, you worked at the US Digital.

Services starting in 2021. You were a former advisor at the IRS in. that capacity and Consumer Financial. Protection Bureau. And what you did at. the US Digital Service Department, which. became DoJ with the stroke of the pen as. Donald Trump signed that order before it. became DoJ was actually government. efficiency. Let me just brag about you a. little bit because your background was. you're an entrepreneur. As an. entrepreneur, you had an exit of a. successful business that you ran. And.

then you were thinking about what's the. next chapter in my life. The next. chapter was I want to give back. I'm. patriotic. I want to help the United. States with all of my business. background because I just exited a. company. So, you go into an area that. was similar to your strengths, US. Digital Services, and you start leading. some of these incredible programs. You. co-founded the Digital Team at CFPB, the. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. You lead the tax credit implementation.

at the US Digital Services. One of the. programs that we all know about that. Trump's gutting, you led the IRS free. direct tax filing system. You were. creating efficiency. Then Musk came into. town. So, take it from there, Maurice. Musk comes into town. Trump signs the. executive order. You're on the inside. You've since resigned. You're like, "I'm. not I can't be here anymore." But but. but tell us what went down with the. stroke of a pen. We had no idea that was coming. And so,

we found out the same time everyone else. did. That night, so inauguration. evening, we received invitations to meet. with our new DoJ colleagues. Everyone We. were told everyone was very excited to. meet us. And the next day, all 162 US DS. employees were brought in for 15-minute. interviews with people who wouldn't who. would only provide their first names and. asked a series of questions that, you. know, felt like a loyalty test. What do.

you think about DoJ? And who's your. favorite USDS teammate? Not not the most. serious of questions. given how complex the work is in. government. And then it was it was. rudderless. We didn't know what the. interviews were about. We had we really. had no context or leadership, which was. both jarring because obviously DoJ was. up to something as we started to see the. USAID takeover, the CFPB takeover, but we had we.

couldn't even determine who was like. going to travel uh if we could get. travel approval. And then on Valentine's. Day. 42 of my teammates were fired. Valentine's evening. while most people are out to dinner or. on holiday with their family. And then. that next week is when things started to. turn around and, you know, DoJ took a. more active leadership in the USDS team. But we were we were also grateful that. we weren't asked to be a part of the. destruction. That's not what brought us.

to government. We didn't find that. particularly efficient. We we came into. government to design great experiences. for people, to simplify people's. interactions with government, not to. take down federal agencies. Well, initially when DoJ was announced, it was supposed to be this thing outside. of government that was going to give. advice to Congress. It had nothing to do. at all with the United States Digital. Service. And then, as you said, there. was this mention of this merger to.

actually make it this official thing. And it seems like they wanted to house. it in the executive branch for. oversight or we should say try to have a. lack of oversight claims that Elon Musk. was trying to, you know, avoid. And then. all of a sudden you're like, wait a. minute. I'm Do- I I didn't sign up for. this to be DoJ." But, you you hang in. there. You hang in there for a little. bit. You have You talk about this. Valentine's Day Massacre, where all of. your friends and colleagues, 40 40-plus,

get fired on Valentine's Day, um you know, kind of out of nowhere. Then, take us through the next steps. What happens as DoJ really asserts. itself, and then really starts to impact. critical government services? I think. especially at the IRS. What What What. starts to happen when they assert. control? So, I viewed what happened at the IRS. as, you know, even though I was DoJ, but. as an as a bystander. I'd been on. detail, effectively the way that the US. Digital Service used to work is you.

would be sent out to agencies. I was on. detail on loan to IRS to support the. Direct File project. And so, when DoJ. arrived, you know, it was kind of a bizarre. series of initial conversations. You. know, you'd bring people in to to do a. briefing, to do an introduction to the. agency. I'll never forget one of the. first conversations. You know, we're kind of in this a bit of. a brainstorming, and one of the DoJ. people goes,

"So, everyone, just imagine there are no. laws.". And if if you've ever met anybody at the. IRS, the only thing that they're really. passionate about is the law, taxes, and. tax law. And it was just this jarring. experience of somebody who's like, you. know, "Imagine there are no laws." Like, typically you would say, "Wave a magic wand." Or, you know, "Blue. sky thinking." And And they just took a. really different approach. And And from there, it went like they.

did at several other agencies, which is. you ask for control and access over the. personnel systems, so you can fire. people. You ask for access to the data, I'm. guessing to individuals data, I'm. guessing to make determinations about. benefits. And then finally, you ask for access to. procurement systems. And that was so. that you could cut contracts that you. didn't. feel, you know, it wasn't based on. logic, but that you didn't feel were.

effective. And when you cut a. procurement contract, that's often a as. Steven Bannon Steve Bannon said, that's. often a body of work. That is stuff that. is being delivered to taxpayers or. services across government or, you know, the IRS. It's making IRS.gov more. functional, more features for people. And so it wasn't really a much of a. rhyme or rhythm to how they approached. their cuts, and it was not efficient at. all. So USDS, which you took a job for in.

2021, which had nothing to do with. getting rid of government programs, which was actually about digitization of. an outdated federal government, and you. wanted to help. You were doing things. like building these systems, direct tax. pay, tax credit implementation, you know, focusing on things like that. Musk comes in, they start doing loyalty. tests, they start firing people, then. they start bringing people like you who.

don't want to dismantle and destroy. That's not what your skill set is, that's not why you're here, that's not. why you're giving back. But you start. seeing what this group is doing that's. kind of did a hostile takeover of USDS. and made it Doge. So now you're almost a. bystander observing what's taking place, and now they're out there saying things. like whereas you would be working with. IRS, okay, let's do direct file. How do. we get this more efficient? How do we. reduce call times? How do we make sure.

we're increasing our tax revenue? Now. these Doge people that Musk brings in. are saying, "Imagine a world where there. are no laws. What would you do?" And. these IRS people are sitting around. there saying, "Huh? You know, what's. what's what's going on?" I I got to ask. you this question because I've always. wanted to know. Amy Glieson, who you. prob- you know, I'm sure from there. Let. let let me show you what the White House. has been saying about Amy Glieson. This. is Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump's press.

secretary. This is from a few months ago. after they were claiming in court, DOJ. was claiming in court that Musk was. actually not leading DOJ, but somebody. else. And they go, "We all know it was. Amy Glieson." Here, let let let's watch. this. And start her job as DOJ administrator. So, Amy Glieson has been the DOJ. administrator for quite some time. I. believe several weeks, maybe a month. I'm not actually sure of the specific. timeline. She's a career official. Um.

she's doing her job as the administrator. of this organization. Um I know. everybody's very interested in in her. name and who she is and what she does. There's a lot of people who work for the. federal government. They're just trying. to do their jobs and, you know, that's what she's doing. DOJ staff has told us yesterday that. they found out about her being the. administrator administrator yesterday. Why is that? You have to ask them. They're clearly. unaware. I don't know. Well, what's your response to first, did. you ever know Amy Glieson to be the.

leader of DOJ? I not until it was announced. No. So, the first time you ever found out. that she was either the leader of DOJ or. US Digital Service, you and others. working there, the first time you ever. knew was it was announced by the White. House in a court filing or somewhere. That's how you found out, "Oh, Glieson's. the boss now." Right? Yeah, she was on vacation. It was a It. was a shock to all of us. The prior. week, it was clear that there was more.

involvement from DoD, but nobody had a. title and it wasn't clear to us that she. was going to be our, you know, the head. of DoD or or the US Digital Service. The way I view this and Amy's position. is there's I view it as multiple Dods, like different cells almost. So, there's. the US Digital Service DoD, USD S DoD. Then there's I don't know what to call. them, like roaming Dods. So, they sleep. on the floor of GSA and.

they go to different agencies and. ransack them. And then there's also more. Dods is now officially inside the. organization in a in an official. capacity. So, the Bureau of Fiscal. Services, the gentleman there was DoD. and is now, I think the Assistant. Secretary is his title, and he oversees. a government agency. And so, there's. different modes here that really kind of. show that whatever whatever's the most. effective approach is the approach that.

they'll take. How worried should American citizens be. right now about what DoD is doing to the. government, the impact that it's having, whether it's at the IRS, which you have. familiarity with, the CFPB, which you. have familiarity with, or just in. general based on your experience? I'm really worried that people don't. understand that it's real. I'm from. Nebraska and I know I remember what it. was like thinking DC is a bubble, but. this is actually something that's. happening in DC and is impacting the.

country. When I joined the IRS in 2022, all IRS employees could talk about was. how they only answered 12% of calls that. year because they were under capacity. And then there were huge paper backlogs. DoD has cut that capacity. So, I don't. know we I'm sorry, we went from 12% to. 88% the next year, which is heroic. And. I don't know what's going to what next. filing season is is to look like. That's. going to impact people across the. country as they try to file their taxes,

they don't know when their tax refunds. are going to come or their social. security checks are going to come. So, those are kind of like the next year. worries. I worry long-term about cancer research, medical research. Those grants and and. that funding of that research is what. has made America great and is what has. put us at the top of, you know, really. think about medical research, education. grants. And it seems like a lot of that. money, the long-term investments, which.

is what government should be for, right? Not the short-term gains, but the. long-term gains gains, those are going. to be That's gone. And so, I also really. worry what it's going to look like in a. few years when we won't have had those. breakthroughs. So, you were on the inside. There's been. a lot of talk about DOJ. Um is there. anything that you think that's not being. discussed enough that you that you think. about that you think deserves more. attention? I mean, it's rare for our. viewers, and we've got millions of.

subscribers here at the Midas Touch. Network to actually hear from someone. who was there what before it was DOJ, who was there during the takeover, who. saw it, who has intricate knowledge of. it. And. based on your knowledge of working with. the IRS, the CFPB, and you building. these systems, you're in a very unique. position to just share your wealth of. knowledge with the audience. So, I often. like when I end these interviews just to. say, "Well, what what do you want people. to know?" And there's no time limitation. on this. I I genuinely want you to share.

your wealth of knowledge with our. viewers about what you've experienced, what you want them to know, what people. should be thinking about. So, let let. let me toss it to you there. I would say two things. Number one, a. lot of the destruction that has been. happening across the federal government. has happened it it seems like a. constitutional crisis in the sense that. I. you can try to eliminate or delete a. federal agency overnight and that is. something that was set up by Congress.

and paid for by taxpayers. And I I don't. understand how DOJ has been able to do. this legally and I hope that this is. something that there will be. accountability for and that's what we. should be demanding is accountability. for the actions that have happened and. are continuing to happen. I do think and I I really hope. that we can rebuild from this and that. is actually what gets what gives me hope. and optimism is that when we kind of.

take a step back and. I'll be honest the status quo was not. helping most people. Our institutions. were not super responsive to today's. problems and so there's an opportunity. to rethink how we do this but we have to. do it the right way and we have to do it. in a way that actually puts people and. their needs first. and really understands the mission of. government the mission of what it is. that were you know people need and and. what government's trying to deliver and. that's that's what I hope we can do you.

know in a few years if we're given a. chance. if if people like you know that like me. that want to come back into government. to rebuild are given a chance to do. that. I don't think this has been a. efficient and I actually think it's. going to be incredibly expensive to. rebuild what's been what's been done. I think that's very hopeful for our. viewers and listeners to hear though. that I'm sure you speak also with other. workers others who had been fired others. who had resigned as as you had resigned.

about what happens next obviously this. is a catastrophe and it's a mess but. perhaps the fact that we are seeing it. now people understand the importance of. actual efficiency which is what you were. doing when you reduced the ways the IRS. was not responsive to people to having. an 85 to 90% responsive rate. So, there's a world where you and you think. the others in a future situation, future.

non-Musk, non-hostile government. takeover situation are actually ready to. come back in the future and help. rebuild? Absolutely. Everyone is is ex- you know, is devastated. by what's happening and wants to come. back and they want to be a part of a. part of it. I think there are actually. still great people inside that are. trying to do the right thing. And I'm so. happy that they're able to have an. impact and try to push things in.

directions that are productive and. constructive. And so that there is still. pockets where, you know, it's it hasn't. been impacted yet by Doja's cuts. And. I'm grateful for for that. And but yeah, everyone uh. you know, a lot of my colleagues, former. colleagues were really excited to to. hopefully get the opportunity to come. back and frankly to rebuild people's. trust that both, you know, fed employees. who have been uh this has been a rough. couple months for them to say the least, as well as people, the taxpayers who.

expect something, expect a good. government, ex- expect, you know, things. to be delivered, their social security. checks to come on time. And so hopefully. we can regain the trust. And you know, things like Direct File, so Doja cut. Direct File, the free tax filing. product. And hopefully we can we can. reimagine that and bring it back. You. know, that's something that people loved. and we need more projects like that. We. can absolutely do that. I you know, I. I let me ask you more about that while I. got you. I'm enjoying this interview so. much because of the wealth of knowledge.

that you're sharing. Tell me about that. though. You built the free Direct Tax. File system that was beloved in the. nation. People said this is efficient. Musk. Doge cut the free direct file system, one of the most popular things, and you. were one of the leads who created that. What's your response to that? What do. you want to tell American people about. that program? So, Direct File was a startup within.

government effectively. It was a team of. people who were passionate about new. feature releases and taking it feedback. from our users to make the product. better. In its first year, Direct File. in It was just a pilot year, so it was. very limited in the number of states. It. was 12 states that that used Direct File. last year. And in that first year, 86% of users. said Direct File helped increased their. trust in the IRS. So, we have proof that.

if you do a thing that people love, it actually helps them expect have. higher expectations and expect more from. government and trust in their government. to do that. Uh. so, the the other thing that um that. we're very proud of is the Direct File. net promoter score is a private sector. kind of consumer index of of how people. love what they love the products that. they use and how they rate them. And. Direct File's last year was 74 plus 74,

and this year it's plus 82, I believe. Uh Apple's is plus 72. So, that is how. much people really loved a government. product and a government service. Uh one more point, cuz you gave me the. chance to talk about it. There's a you. know, every tax season there's a meme of. like, "Why doesn't the IRS, you know, the IRS asked me to do the math and then. they throw me in jail when I get it. wrong when they know all the answers.". And we started to pre-populate.

information that the IRS has about you. into your tax return. So, that way it. was more accurate and it took you way. less time. I got texts from people who were like, "My kid did this in 10 minutes." I mean, the average person it takes them 9 hours. and costs them $160 to do their taxes. and Direct File is free and it took a. bunch of people 10 minutes to do it. So, it's a really great example of. government efficiency and something that.

users love and DoJ. didn't see or have didn't see any value. in it and ended up killing it. The AP reported they killed it last. week. Maurice Civinton, thank you so much for. joining us and sharing the wealth of. knowledge from being on the inside, former US Digital Service DoJ staffer, Maurice Civinton. Vinton, thank you. Thank you. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 5. million subscribers. Can't get enough. Midas? Check out the Midas Plus Substack. for ad-free articles, reports, podcasts,

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