What Got CUT From CBS' Netanyahu Interview, & Spencer Pratt's Secret Ingredient, w/ Michael Knowles

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are big developments with Spencer. Pratt's surging campaign for mayor in. LA. Could he actually win? He's got all. the momentum despite a recent hit piece. on him by CBS News. Great job CBS. This. is the new CBS, same as the old CBS. Uh. and speaking of CBS, we begin today with. the latest in the Iran war. Uh and. President Trump calling Iran's latest. response to a US proposal to end the war. quote totally unacceptable. What does. this have to do with CBS? They had. Netanyahu on last night. Get to that in.

a second. Iran in turn hitting back by. calling its counter offer quote generous. and responsible according to the Wall. Street Journal. The end does not seem to. be imminent at all. So that made what. the leader of America's partner in this. war. He seems to think he's an equal. partner. Um not sure he's aware. He's. got 10 million people in his country. We've got 330 million in ours. Our. interests are a lot greater and frankly.

more important. sorry, but they are uh. and we're running this thing. It's our. military. It's our boots on the ground, not yours, uh that has been doing the. lion share of all this. So, yeah, we're. not equal partners. Uh but in any event, Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, went on 60 Minutes last night, and this. whole thing made that appearance all the. more interesting. 60 aired a good chunk. of correspondent Major Garrett's. interview with the prime minister on TV. last night. The segment was about 12. minutes, but CBS also released the the.

full 70inute sitdown online. That's not. out of the goodness of their hearts. That's thanks to President Trump's. lawsuit back in 2024 when he alleged 60. Minutes made misleading edits to a Kla. Harris interview in an effort to make. her look good. And when we saw the. outtakes, we found out that of course is. absolutely true. And we saw the the the. tease that they posted. Remember they. had posted different versions of the.

same answer. Uh one was she was asked a. question. It was actually about wasn't. it about Netanyahu? Um and they posted. one piece of the answer on one show and. another piece of the answer on another. show and it became very clear to those. of us out in the world that they'd been. manipulating us which they had been. So. now 60 Minutes posts many of its full. interviews with newsmakers and they are. sometimes quite illuminating like in. March when we showed you a misleading. edit of Pete Hexath's interview with. Major Garrett when the show suggested.

that Secretary Hegsth was responding to. a question about Israel dragging the US. into the war. Uh and the extended. interview showed the question didn't. mention Israel at all. There's. manipulation going on over at CBS. especially around the topic of Israel. Hm. I wonder why. Now, this time there. was no smoking gun showing journalistic. malpractice in last night's Netanyahu. interview, but there were some notable. ways in which the edited piece differed. from the actual full interview in.

substant substantive ways. The interview. began with BB saying, "The war is not. over." And here's an extended version. that's slightly longer than what you. might have seen if you watched 60. Minutes last night. Is the war with Iran over? And if it. isn't, who will decide when it is? >> I think it accomplished a great deal, but it's not over because there's still. nuclear material, enriched uranium that. has to be taken out of Iran. Uh there is.

still uh enrichment sites that have to. be dismantled. There are still proxies. that Iran supports. There ballistic. missiles that they still uh want to. produce. Now, we've degraded a lot of. it, but all of that is still there, and. there's work to be done. >> How do you envision the highlyenriched. uranium will be removed from Iran? >> You go in and you take it out. >> with what? Special forces from Israel, special forces from the United States. >> Well, I'm not going to talk about. military means, but the pres what.

President Trump has said to me, I want. to go in there. And I think it can be. done physically. That's not the problem. Uh, if you have an agreement and you go. in and you take it out, why not? That's. the best way. >> What if there isn't an agreement? Can it. be taken out by force? >> Well, you're going to ask me these. questions. I'm going to dodge them. because I'm not going to talk about our. military uh possibilities, plans, or. anything of the kind. >> And I'm just trying to get at how long. is it going to take to achieve that aim.

>> I'm not going to give a timetable to it, but I'm going to say that's. a terrifically important mission. I mean, okay, our president doesn't seem. to have the appetite for this. They're. they're reporting today, uh, over the. weekend, they reported in the Atlantic, he's bored. He's bored with this war. That's his second report using that. exact term that we've seen about the. president. He's really not that into it. anymore. But you can see this guy feels. differently. He He's not going to talk. about timing. Lots of important missions.

yet to be done in Iran. And here's his. answer on the infamous meeting inside. the White House situation room from. February, which the New York Times first. broke broke the news of where he. reportedly persuaded President Trump to. start this war. Again, this clip we're. going to show you here is a bit longer. than what aired in the 60 Minutes. broadcast last night. >> New York Times on April 7th reported the. following about a fateful meeting. February 11th in the White House. And the New York Times reports as. follows. quote, "In the situation room.

on February 11th, Mr. Netanyahu made a. hard cell, suggesting that Iran was ripe. for regime change and expressing the. belief that a joint USIsraeli mission. could finally bring an end to the. Iranian to the Islamic Republic. Is that. correct?". >> No, that's actually incorrect because. >> in what ways is it incorrect? >> It's incorrect in the sense that I said, "Oh, well, it's guaranteed we can do. it," and so on. I didn't say that. Uh we. both understood that we have little time. to act because otherwise they'll get.

nuclear weapons. Uh we both understood. that we have little time to act because. otherwise they'll bury underground their. ballistic missile capabilities. But. while we were uh we said that part of. the action would be the removal of the. leadership and other measures. There was uncertainty and we said it all. this you know is uncertain. If you ever. uh you know engage in military uh In the. confines of that conversation, you noted. the uncertainty. >> Not only did I note it, we both agreed,

you know, that there was both. uncertainty and risk involved. >> Okay, got it. Now, he wants to. underscore that he was really clear with. President Trump on the risk and. uncertainty around his plan. You know, his asurances that we could take out the. Ayatollah and affect regime change easy. three, four days tops. Now, he wants you. all to know he was really clear on the.

risk and uncertainty that he advised the. president of. Okay, so it's Trump's. fault. That's really what he's saying. He advised the risk and Trump overruled. him. Is that true? Or is he possibly. overstating the amount of caution that. he laced his remarks in? And here's an. important answer here, Netanyahu, on why. America and Isra and Israel did not. anticipate Iran doing the one thing that. has changed this entire conflict and. indeed has changed Iran's standing in.

the war in the world. Iran, it's now. calling itself a global superpower. And. it's not the only one. I've seen very. smart military analysts say. unfortunately that's become true. And. that's the straight of Hormuz. Why. didn't we anticipate Israel not didn't. anticipate it and the United States. apparently didn't take it seriously? The. reports are that Trump didn't believe. they could do it. Uh and that Netanyahu. had told them it wasn't realistic. But. they've done it. They've done it and. it's the thing that is holding.

everything up. It's holding up the the. closure of this war, the progress of. talks around this war. We've given them. a new tool even more powerful than a. nuke. That's what this war has done to. Iran. And if you don't think that's. empowering, you haven't been paying. attention. And unfortunately, it's incredibly. empowering for Iran. Right now, they. hold a lot of cards and they're going to. hold them forever unless we have a. permanent military presence in the. straight of Hormuz, which we police from.

now to the end of time. I don't think. we're prepared to do that. You know how. much money that's going to be? Okay. So. why why didn't we or they apparently. anticipate that they could and would. take control of the strait? Here's the. answer. Most most of this again did not. air on TV. Watch. >> No, I don't claim perfect foresight and. nobody had perfect foresight. Neither. did the Iranians. They should have. figured out that that's what's coming. >> Did you say that most of these risks.

would be minimal? >> I don't remember using that language and. I. >> would that be a fair interpretation? No, I would say I would say that uh the. overall conception was that this would. elicit a problem or a response that they. probably would not shoulder, but they. did shoulder and now they're respond. They're attacking. They're being. attacked accordingly. >> Yeah. Yes. It's a problem. Yeah, we're. aware. So, they're at least some. telegraph of the truth. They didn't. anticipate it. They didn't think that.

they could shoulder it. Well, they. could. And honestly, did he really not. know? Did Netanyahu and Israel not anticipate. that? I just I have that a very hard. time dis believing that. I mean that. like their. their intelligence is second to none. They they knew the Ayatollah was going. to be above ground on a certain day with. his top emissaries. Their intelligence. was really good on the Ayatollah's. whereabouts and his plans and was spot.

on. But they didn't anticipate that they. could effectively take control of the. state of Hormuz. Or did they just not care? Because their. goal is chaos in the Middle East, which. benefits them. And our goal is very, very different. Our goal is not chaos in. the Middle East. We have a lot of. friends and partners and allies there. with whom we do great business and whose. relationships with us have only been. getting stronger. And that's a good. thing for the United States. Is it. really great for us to have chaos in the. Middle East? Is it great for us to have, by the way, Iran bombing our allies over.

there, which is what they've been doing. That's another thing that was just very, very interesting piece in the Atlantic. by a big-time neocon hawk, a guy who was. behind the the Iraq war, the surge in. Iraq, and push for, you know, all sorts. of conflicts, writing some tough talk. about how the war in Iran is going, saying basically, we've lost, and it's. worse than our loss in Vietnam. It's. worse than anything than Afghanistan. It's worse than Iraq.

It's very, very bad because we've. empowered Iran in a way that we didn't. anticipate. And um Robert Kagan is the. name of the guy. And uh yeah, talking about how Iran has. now become empowered as a result of its. control of the Straight of Hormuz. And. one of the ways in which we've been. compromised is in fighting back. Not. only did it take the straight, it. started bombing all of its allies in the. neighborhood, our our allies in the. neighborhood. And that the reason Trump.

entered into a ceasefire was not a. desire for a ceasefire so much as it was. the fact that Iran had bombed the energy. infrastructure in Qatar. and that if that anything like that. continued, we were going to be setting. the energy markets back by years, decades, and it needed to stop ASAP. They actually pulled another trick out. of their hat that materially changed the.

course of the war. It wasn't just a oh, we're going to be nice. All right. So, there's been a lot happening. This has. been a very savvy, you know, tough effort that we're. fighting over there. I It's not a. compliment. It's just a reality and. something. the skeptics about the war had advised. President Trump about. Okay. So, now here's Netanyahu claiming. he was one of them. Okay. Sure you were. Sure. And here's another thing that did. not air at all on last night's.

broadcast, and that's Netanyahu. discussing how long this war might last. We had our brave pilots and your brave. pilots over the skies of Tehran, over. the skies of Iran. That changed. That broke that mask of. invincibility. And once that happens, once that happens, that regime, I think. their days are numbered, but it could. take a lot of days. I grant you that.

And if you say, "How long would it take. this war?". I think a lot has been accomplished in a. very short time. [snorts] It's not going. to take years. It better not take months. >> It better not take months. >> It may not take months. It depends. You. know, it depends a lot. I don't want to. put a a schedule on it. I think there's. a mission schedule. There are goals to. be achieved. But so far, I think an. enormous amount has been done in a very. short time.

[sighs]. So, are we going to be perpetually. months away from enduring the from. ending the war? Remember, President. Trump said it was going to be four. weeks. Now, we get from Netanyahu. Months. and won't won't get more specific. Are. we going to be perpetually months away. from ending this thing just like Iran. was perpetually weeks away from. obtaining a nuclear weapon in the years. before Operation Epic Fury? That's what. we've dubbed this war. I mean truly.

Netanyahu's been saying that they're. weeks away for years now, weeks and. months at most. This is sounding like. the Iraq war clips that we brought to. you when this war began in March. Dick. Cheney, Don Rumsfeld saying it was just. going to be weeks or or months at the. outset. Eight years later, that war. finally ended. Not to mention ground. troops, the more ground troops, the.

surge that was Iraq. Several sections of the interview. focused on how support for Israel is on. the decline here in America, especially. among young people, Democrat and. Republican and independent, and what the. cause of that is. Now, here's an. excerpt. This is from the full interview. where we removed a lengthy aside from. Netanyahu. about Israel not targeting civilians. This is a point that they make very. often that Israel says that they never. targeted civilians. And they do indeed. drop, for example, pamphlets on sites.

they're about to bomb telling them that. they're about to bomb them. And it's. also true that the Palestinians that the. Hamas will hide in a place like a. hospital, you know, to make it tougher for Israel. That that's all true and we know that. about Israel. But it's also true that. that Israel has killed civilians, thousands of them in Gaza, and it's. happening again now in Lebanon. We've. watched journalists get blown up and.

they they don't seemed particularly. apologetic about it. I got to tell you, they're kind of like, oh well, we've got. tens of thousands dead in Gaza. Tens of. thousands. Uh, and they are not all. Hamas fighters. There are thousands and. thousands of civilians. So, that was an. aside, but it's a separate debate. Okay, we want to talk here, show you here the. discussion about social media and his. concerns because let me tell you, BB. thinks that's the reason Americans are. turning on his country.

this idea that a younger generation are. on social media are scrolling. Do you. believe Israel is at risk of losing this. war on that social media front? Meaning. what is being portrayed, what is being. said? And this is particularly, I. believe, important in America for. younger Americans, Republican and. Democrat, who have hardened themselves. against Israel, scrolling through images which tell them. that there is something not.

as you describe, but univilized. And they would use words like barbaric. >> in [clears throat] Gaza and in Lebanon. We have seen the deterioration of. support for Israel in the United States. almost uh I would say it correlates. almost 100% with the geometric rise of. social media and that by itself is not. what caused it and I I don't believe in. you know in censoring them or anything.

but I'll tell you what happened. We have. several countries that basically. manipulated social media with bot farms. with fake addresses to break the. American uh sympathy to Israel to break. the American Israeli alliance because. they think it's in their interests. And. they do it in a clever way. You know, it's like uh you hear a text message. I'm a you know, red-blooded Texan. I. always supported Israel, but I can't.

stand what they're doing. I'm turning. against Israel. And then you trace the. address to some basement in Pakistan, you know, and that's that's something. that has hurt us badly. >> So that whole thing about bot farms did. not air. Okay. The version that aired on. TV included some of what we just played, but it was combined with a section from. the very end of the interview which. focused on Israel's tactics to respond. to the sentiment shift, not the shift.

itself. All right. They let him get away with. it's it's all social media. It's, you. know, it's not Israel's behavior. It has. nothing to do with those tens of. thousands dead in Gaza or Gaza looking. like a parking lot now. Um or the the. thirst what appears to be a thirst for. more war by Israel on this front and. that front. It's not like let's do it. all. Who could forget? When then the. focus shifted to Hezbollah after Hamas.

and then it was we're going to get the. Houthis and then it was they talked us. into bombing the Iranian nuclear sites. and now we're back for more in Iran and. not to mention Syria. Like they've been. behind a lot. It's not that though. It's. none of that. It's just social media. That's what's caused the shift. Um so. they're not interested in C at CBS in. talking about that, right? because they. included a little about how Israel's. responding to the sentiment shift like.

the evil podcasters or social media. trolls who are causing it and they don't. want to discuss the actual shift itself. and whether it has to do with Israel's. behavior at all. Again, why is that? Why. does CBS not want to discuss that? Could. it be the Ellison's and their handplaced. handmaidaden Barry Weiss who runs CBS. now? who's huge on Israel. It's truly. her favorite issue. I mean, that is. true. She's extremely concerned about.

Israel and has been for a long, long. time. You know, Glenn Greenwall was. telling us about what she did to that. professor at Colombia who she thought. was too anti-Israel. Like, she's been on. a cancellation crusade for a long time. against anybody who she thinks is too. critical of Israel. And uh now she's in charge of CBS. And. honestly, you can see it in the. coverage. You can see it. So Netanyahu. uh in a rather chilling moment actually.

reached over and picked up Major. Garrett's iPhone in order to make his. point, okay, about social media. Now. what's interesting about this exchange, I'm going to show it to you. This is the. final exchange in the 70minute sitdown, okay? This is this is purportedly. Netanyahu trying to tell us what's being. done to Israel by propagandists out. there. And I would submit to the jury. that it is very much true of what Israel.

is doing to its critics now too. Watch. >> again. You can say anything because it's. this. this is yours, right? >> Speaking of, >> you're not immune either because you can. penetrate this machine. You can. penetrate this. this little instrument and you can say. about Major Garrett anything you want. and I can paint you as a monster and if. I say it often enough.

people will believe it. I am am not. bemoning this. I'm stating this as a. fact. Israel is besieged on the media. front on the propaganda front and we've. [clears throat] not done well on the. propaganda war. We have to fight back. against these lies, this propaganda with. the only weapon we have. It's the truth. I'm trying to do that now and we'll try. to do that in a much greater effort.

Wow. I mean, that's pretty chilling. Picked up Major's phone and said to a. journalist, "You are not immune. If I. want it, I can paint you as a monster. He says, "I can paint you as a monster. and people will believe it.". Oh, we know. Trust me, we're aware. that I mean, what's interesting is there. was no followup about what Israel.

actually is doing, what it actually is. doing here in America, which I'll get to. in one second, but they are. It's. interesting to me because I talked to. Charlie Kirk about this. You know, he. and I were on the same trajectory on. Israel. Very, very ardently pro. and Charlie was in a different situation. than I was because he had a lot of. Israeli donors and and very prominent. Jewish donors to Turning Point and so. kind of felt financially beholden to.

folks who shared that view and may have. given him money because he shared it. I. thank God don't have that problem. Nobody owns me. I I take the only people. I take money from, you know, about Cozy. Earth. Love them. Like all my. advertisers, that's that's the only one. that they they pay money to get their. ads on this show and that's it. Obviously, SiriusXM pays me to license. the broadcast, but no special interests. like this. Okay. And and I've been. offered money. I have been offered money. by very pro-Israeli and when I was very.

pro-Israeli, you know, two years ago. Um, and I always said no because I just. I understood that it could compromise me. as a journalist and I didn't want that. to happen. I didn't I don't like anybody. having me by a leash. Um, but in any. event, Charlie and I talked openly about. how Israel was very bad at the. propaganda war, about how the. Palestinians were so much better at. propaganda than Israel. And the thing. that he and I discussed Israel needed to.

do, excuse me, [clears throat] was to get. its own Caroline Levit to be out there. every day. And and Charlie said, for. example, why why should I be out there. doing this? Why should it be me and you, Megan? Excuse me. I need some water. Why should it be us? Why don't they have. their own Caroline Levit or Admiral. Kirby who's out there setting the record. straight? Well, they went a different. way. They they joined the likes of the.

propagandists and those engaged in the. business of personal destruction of. their critics. So, we'll talk about that. in a second. Okay. But back to the. broadcast last night. These two moments. from the last two sound bites, they were. shortened. They were combined as if they. happened back toback. you know, it it. the the the with the phone. Now, they. didn't include the comment about how. Israel will be fighting back. They. teased that they will use the same. tactics to fight fire with fire on the.

social media front. Well, they they're. doing it. Okay, they're doing that. BB. said it several times throughout the. full interview, but none of that made. the broadcast version. So, why didn't. that go in there? Why? There were also. several references by Netanyahu uh to. the Americans turning against Israel. um. saying that they also hate America. Oh, they do? Okay. So, according to. Netanyahu, if you are against Israel and. its tactics militarily, you hate your.

own country here in America. You hate. America. This is a talking point we've. seen from the prominent pro-Israel media. voices in the past few weeks. It seems. to be like a new favorite. All of those. references were cut from the broadcast. version of the interview. Why? Why did Barry Weiss and her CBS cut from. the interview of Netanyahu? All the. references by Netanyahu attacking. Americans who have questions about. Israel as anti-American. Is it possible.

they believed that might make him look. bad and further alienate. Americans? I mean, I I think there's a level of. protection being run now on a on a. foreign leader that's just obvious. It's. as plain as the nose on your face. And. you have to ask yourself why and whether. we're allowing this. Because let let me. tell you, if I had Netanyahu sitting. here and he made those claims, I would. absolutely follow up with questions, for. example, about his own explicit.

statements last August or September. saying Israel was going to get in this. game. And then Jonathan Greenlat of the. ADL that was formed allegedly here to. fight anti-semitism. and he addressed. the Knesset right around that same time. frame and made really clear what he. expected next in this information war. Here's what he said. >> But we need the kind of genius that. manufactured Apollo gold pagers and.

infiltrated for over a decade to prepare. for this battle. We need the kind of. courage that executed operation deep. layer inside Syria and destroyed Iranian. missile manufacturing capabilities to. undertake this mission. This is the kind. of ingenuity and inventiveness that have. always been a hallmark of the state of. Israel that have always been a. characteristic of the Jewish people. I. know we can do it. >> Okay. You know you know that we can do.

it. Okay. Well, how about Netanyahu? What specifically has he said? Listen to. this one. >> We're going to have to use the tools of. battle. You know, the the weapons change. over time. You can't fight today with. swords. That doesn't work very well. Okay? And you can't fight with the fight. with cavalry. That doesn't work very. well. And you have these new things, you. know, like drones, things like that. I. won't get into that, but we have to. fight with the weapons that uh apply to. the battlefields in which we're engaged.

And the most important ones are social. media. And the most important purchase. that is going on right now is. >> class. >> Tik Tok. >> Tik Tok. Number one. Number one. >> And I hope it goes through because it's. uh. >> it can be consequential. >> And the other one, what's the other one. that's most important? >> X. >> X. >> X. >> Very good. >> And you know, so we have to talk to.

Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend. We should talk to him. >> H great. So, there it is. He's been very. explicit about what he's about to do. And then we know about at least some of. it. Okay. We know that Israel, thanks to. a an effort called Project Esther, paid a bunch of social media media. influencers approximately $7,000 per. post. pro- Israel or against its.

attackers in an effort to quote fight. anti-semitism. I've said this before. I've gotten attacked by many on social. media as making things up. Sorry if you. weren't smart enough to get paid for. your tweets, folks. But it's true. It's. absolutely true. It was first uh broken. by Responsible Statecraft, which is an. online magazine of the Quincy Institute. Um they advocate restraint and foreign. policy and they documented the fact in. September that Israel was paying.

influencers $7,000 per post. They write. in a meeting dedicated to harnessing. pro-Israeli media energy on Friday. The. prime minister Netanyahu alluded to a. cohort of Israel's influencers. We do have to fight back. How do we. fight back? Our influencers. I think you. should also talk to them if you have a. chance to that community. They're very. important. Being paid by Israel to post. on social media is also very lucrative, they write. According to previously. unreported recent documents, these.

influencers are likely being paid around. $7,000 per post on social media such as. Tik Tok, Instagram, etc. on behalf of. Israel. Bridges Partners, a firm working. for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign. Affairs, sent a series of invoices for. its influencer campaign. to Havas Media Group Germany. An. international media group working for. Israel. Very interesting. A group in. Germany working for Israel. Germany.

I may be coming back to that in days to. come and I'll explain why then. The. invoices detail a sum of $900,000. starting in June and slated to end in. November for a cohort of 14 to 18. influencers to create content. They had. to disclose this because this group had. to register under the Foreign Agents. Registration Act and they note in it. that the funding is for payments for. influencers and production.

So, we don't know exactly what the. number was or exactly who the. influencers were or even whether this is. the only such program, but it is. absolutely true that Israel was paying. thousands of dollars per post to several. influencers to attack those perceived as. dangers to Israel or enemies of the. Israeli state or Netanyahu. and to promote uh stories about Israel. that reflected well on it. It was called.

Project Esther. In addition, by the way, this same publication, Responsible. Statecraft, broke the news, which is. also true that Brad Parcal, who is. senior executive at Salem Media and has. his own AI company, had to register as a. foreign agent for Israel. Same situation. This is from The Hill, September 30th, 2025. Does that date. sound familiar? It's all happening. Was.

the unleashed last September. Parcal, this is according to the Hill, the. Parcal has registered as a foreign agent. for Israel, hired to create digital. campaigns combating anti-semitism in a. contract worth $6 million. Uh, by the way, I've also read it's it's. nine 9 million. According to his. contract, his company is hired to create. content where at least 80% is tailored. to Gen Z audiences across platforms. including Tik Tok, Instagram, YouTube, podcast, and other relevant digital and. broadcast outlets. Uh, Axios also.

reporting that Parcal, a top eight on. President Trump's first two campaigns, registered as a foreign agent to work on. Israel's behalf and create digital media. combating anti-semitism. Now I know Parcell personally and I have. had long discussions with him about what. his AI can do and let me tell you it's. substantial. This is before he decided. to become a foreign agent for Israel and.

when he thought that I was completely in. Israel's corner and not Israel. skeptical. And I was I used to be. Honestly, it's like they they have their. own bad behavior to thank for losing me. and and Netanyahu's paranoia about like, oh, social media. They get on there and. like people from, you know, some third. world country are on there saying, I I. live in Texas and I've turned on Israel. and it's all BS propaganda. That's. Israel's claim. That's not at all what. what changed my views. Not at all. It.

was I literally made a speculative. comment about whether Epstein might have. been an asset for Israeli intelligence. and immediately got called an. anti-semite as did Charlie Kirk. He and. I were part of the conversation. That's. what led in part to our conversation one. month before he was murdered about how. annoyed we were at how quickly the. pressure campaign began on us both and. the name calling using that term simply.

in response to speculation about. Epstein. It was crazy. Charlie was angry about what was being. done to him and I was too. And I firmly. believe he would have been on the same. trajectory I have been on because the. name calling against me only got worse. The demands of me only got worse. Sometimes proxies were put in. You have. to say this or you're an anti-semite or. you have to say that or you're an. anti-semite. I've refused all along as I. know Charlie would have because he was a.

free speech advocate very much so and. would never have bent the knee to these. bullies whether it's BLM or the ADL. And on and on it went. It's gotten worse. and worse and worse. And then Israel got. us into yet another damn war. Yet. another damn war. So people in the United States who are. having some negative feelings toward not. the Israeli people who we love and have. a lot in common with um but their.

government have every reason to feel. that way. And it's not because of. Tik Tok. Okay? Like honestly, I want to read this guy. the the the poem that Dr. Ben Carson. loves, right, by my way about yourself. to to blame. Is it my way Brown? I'm. trying to remember her exact last name. Um it's amazing. I've read it on the air. before that basically every refrain ends. with you have yourself to blame. Look.

inward. It's what the Miller is the last. name. Um look inward. Those words are. actually in the poem. look inward. I I. it's crazy to me that he's spending time. lamenting. how it's really totally social media. I. think what's happened here is Israel's. behaved badly in a number of ways. extremely confrontationally. and in a way that's actually gotten us. into a war now. And that's what's led. people that plus what they did in Gaza.

And honestly, he's worried about like. the social media campaign about Gaza. That's another thing that didn't work on. me, sir. It wasn't any social media. campaign about Gaza. I tried to defend. you on Gaza as long as humanly possible, but you just the thirst for blood lust. over there was a little too much. It. went on for years every day. Were all. the dead children propaganda by. Palestine? I don't think so. Then you. started it again in Lebanon. That wasn't Tik Tok that made me believe.

that. I don't even have Tik Tok, okay? It's not even on my phone. And X. is heavily dominated by the pro-Israel. crowd. X is not an anti-Israel forum at. all. So what are you talking about? My. personal Instagram has basically videos. of that lazy that lady who does all the. stuff on the 80s and what it's like to. be a Gen Xer. Uh fashion tips and other. great lifestyle and maja type content. I. don't use Instagram for politics. I It's.

I don't follow many political people on. there. I don't even follow many news. people on there. So, I didn't get any of. my viewpoints from these social media. platforms you're so worried about. Okay. I got them from news sources and from. your obvious attacks on yours truly, on. my dear friend Charlie Kirk and on some. other friends of mine. So, this campaign remains ongoing. And I. will say this just while I have you. I. am so grateful to all of you for.

continuing to tune in to the show and. not allowing this attempted destruction. to occur. I I love reading the comments. and the emails from all of you who say. you see what they're doing. I knew that. I mean, you're too savvy not to, but. yeah, it's it's a lot. And to hear him. play the victim is pretty gling. Okay. Sure, sir. Sure. You're many things. The. victim's not one of them. All right. Coming up next, we got a lot of other. news to discuss. Michael Nolles will be.

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President Trump has just given an. interview weighing in on the Iran war. In particular, Iran has now issued its. response to our demands to end this. thing. The president says he's not. happy. Here's what he what he said. Watch. >> For the time being, the ceasefire. remains in place. You know, it it's. unbelievably weak. I would say I would. call it the weakest right now. After. reading that piece of garbage they sent.

us, I didn't even finish reading it. I. said, "I'm not going to waste my time. reading it." I would say it's one of the. weakest right now. It's on life support. They understand these are all medical. people. Dr. Oz, life support is not a. good thing. Do you agree? >> Very prognostic. [laughter] I would say. the ceasefire is on massive life support. where the doctor walks in and says, "Sir, your loved one has approximately a. 1% chance of living.".

>> That that kind of brings it home. Just. for those listening at home, apparently. the response, this is per the Wall. Street Journal, hasn't been made public. yet, but it doesn't speak to our demand. for commitments on the fate of Iran's. nuclear program or its stockpile of. highlyenriched uranium. Instead, reports. the journal, Iran proposes an end to the. fighting and a gradual opening of the.

street of Hormuz. Then they punch the nuclear issues to. getting negotiated over the next 30. days. And um they do offer some sort of. a proposal on the highlyenriched uranium. and having it diluted and possibly. transferred, but apparently not to to. satisfy Trump or really feel that our. proposal was directly addressed. Um, you. know, the problem we have now is that. more and more, this is Bloomberg. reporting this too, that.

the president's not that interested in. the war anymore. He wants it to go away, >> but we can't really make it go away. without reopening that straight. That's. that's for damn sure, which was it was. reopened before it was opened. >> before we launched this war, but. whatever that may be, Michael, we can't. end it without that thing coming back. open. And the Iranians know they have a. pretty powerful card. >> Yeah, I love President Trump's vivid. language, typically graphic. He's. describing the life support of the.

ceasefire. But then what does that mean? For the ceasefire to disappear either. means you're going to have an negotiated. end to the war, actually put an end to. hostilities, or you're going to have an. escalation again. And unfortunately, this is an area where I you know how. much I hate to say I told you so on any. number of political issues, but this was. always my fear before the the Iran war. and while it was being launched, you had. a lot of people celebrating, you know, waiting for, I don't know, freedom. parades in Iran and a pro-western return.

of the sha or something like that. I. never really thought that was going to. happen. And and really what what I. assumed was at the end you'd either end. up with a deal you don't want or a. massive military operation that would be. politically unsellable at home. So there. were really no good options. I I know. some people make the claim that war in. Iran would be unjust, that the regime. doesn't deserve it or something like. that. I I never thought that. We've. we've been in hostilities with Iran for. 50 years. But the problem is in order to. establish a just war, you need to have a.

reasonable probability of success, which. means you have to know exactly what your. objective is. Is the objective just to. get rid of the nuclear program? Is it to. set back the nuclear program? Is it. regime change as many people wanted from. the beginning? So you need a reasonable. probability of success, which I don't. think we're really going to have, at. least on the regime change front. Don't. forget the mullers for all their. wickedness and sins lasted twice as long. in power as the CIA regime that we. helped to promote in 1953 with the CIA. coup that helped get rid of Mosed and. and ensconce the sha. So I thought the.

mullers are a lot tougher than people. give him credit for. And then the other. thing that you need is proportionality. that the goods to be achieved are going. to outweigh the the losses incurred. And. there too it's just it's a real country. These guys are really tough. They're a. very evil regime. So they're willing to. to use all the sorts of tricks at their. disposal. And on the on the American. front, people have PTSD from the Iraq. and Afghanistan wars. So they don't want. a protracted military engagement. They. don't want a ton of boots on the ground.

So it's it's a brutal kind of quagmire. The the one thing I would say for. President Trump's position here trying. to negotiate a way out of this thing is. that many of our toughest presidents, not just many American presidents, but. even some of our toughest presidents uh. on matters of war and peace actually. took the more dovish side. So you think. of Ronald Reagan famously and this one. involves Iran after the Beirut Barracks. bombings. Reagan did not directly. retaliate. He actually pulled the troops. out of Lebanon. You think of Truman.

being reserved on war with China. You. think of Eisenhower and Kennedy being. more reserved on war with Vietnam. So, you know, I don't think that Trump is in. a an impossible situation here. He's in. a brutal situation. He's in a very. difficult situation. There's no real win. available to him. So, to your point, Megan, the reporting that says he's kind. of sick of the war in Iran. Yeah, I get. it. That's a big threat to the. Republicans right now, even as we've got. a lot of structural winds thanks to the. courts, thanks to redistricting. So, any.

way to wind this thing down, I I think. is is probably the right thing to do. because the probability of ousting that. regime under current political. conditions, I think, is basically zero. >> Yeah, I totally agree with all that. Like, let's just get out. It's not going. to be graceful. It's not going to look. so great. President Trump's a great. salesman. he can probably sell it as a. win no matter what. Um whether it is or. it isn't honestly almost doesn't even. matter at this point. It's like we have. our own problems to worry about.

including now political ones for the GOP. that definitely need care and feeding. So let's let's just go whatever. I know. that they control the strait. It's very. complicated, but like I New York Times. reported last Monday that these. revolutionary guard guys actually are. somewhat mercenary. like money may speak. to them. It may not just be this. theoccratic, you know, Allah type. motivated action. And so if that's true, President Trump talks money. He knows. how to deal with people who like money.

And maybe we can set up some deal like. we don't really get our oil out of the. straight. I realize the whole global. economy is dependent, but like maybe we. can set up some deal where they do get. some money out of the straight because. now they've discovered that tool and we. get out of there. I I like I don't see. any other way other than giving them. something to make them want to reopen. the straight of Hormuse, which is what. we really want at this point. You've. done a lot of damage. That's great. You. you have these three options, which is. either you just take a bad deal, or you.

invade Iran, which nobody really wants. to do, or you could just keep the status. quo, which is what the president has. been doing, though he's signaling that's. probably coming to an end, which is Iran. launches its blockade to hold hostage. 20% of the world's oil and natural gas. and fertilizer and petrochemicals and. all all this other stuff. So, you're. you're basically holding the global. economy hostage. And then Trump does the. reverse UNOC card double blockade where. he says, "Okay, well, we're gonna starve. you and we're going to stop you from. exporting your oil." And and then it.

just becomes this game of chicken. What's going to happen first? A global. recession or the Iranian oil pipes. bursting? And you know, that's a very. very dangerous game, especially in a. midterm year. >> Exactly. Right. Because they're going to. start, they'll do what they did that led. to the ceasefire, which is they'll. attack Qatar. They'll attack all of our. Arab allies and their energy. infrastructure, which will only hurt the. global economy even more in addition to. those uh allies of ours. And then. President Trump will be scared because. we we cannot have a global recession. We. certainly can't have an American one. Uh.

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but by my children, my three kids, as. they did last Mother's Day as a gift, as. a Mother's Day gift to yours truly. They. took on the hard work of actually. getting the tracking done. Um, I was. there, I confess, it was actually super. fun and and enjoyable to watch them do. it. This is the second time they've done. it. They did it last Mother's Day as. well, and my team put together a little. one minute uh is it the highlight reel. of some of the outtakes. [laughter] They. did a great job. But here, it's always. fun to hear uh the stumbles. And here.

are a few of them. >> Three, two, one, go. Good morning, everyone. I'm Thatcher. >> I'm Yates. >> And I'm Yardley. And this is a special. Mother's Day edi edition of AM Update. where we're giving our mom the day off. >> No, start out. You just screwed that one. of those words up. [laughter]. It's okay. >> with the candidate hammering city. leaders over shoot. Uh, where should I pick up from? >> The only type that can spread person to.

person though close [music] through. person. I'm confused on what I'm saying. here. The Pentagon releasing a trove of. declassified materials on Friday related. to the unidentified anomalous phenomia. [music]. The unidentified anomalous phenomena. phenomena. Unidentified anomalous. phenomena unidentified anomalous. phenomena. >> An early April poll from UCLA's Luskin. School of [gasps]. This is annoying. Don't [laughter].

>> do it. You I'm so much worse. You're. doing so much better. >> Oh, I'm making more than. >> How do you do this every day? Thank you. everyone. Happy Mother's Day. >> Happy Mother's Day. >> Thanks. Have a great day. >> [laughter]. >> Megan, they I know they stumbled over a. few words here here and there, but your. children are much better at articulating. the English language than many members. of Congress. So, I would not let that. discourage them at [laughter] all. That's great. Also, you know, you can. hear at the top, Megan, your your.

children's names, which is it's giving. me intense Wasp name envy because my the. Nolles line, they're very waspy. I mean. there's I got a lot I've got like. Clarances and Basil kind of, you know, and I you're for my fourth kid coming. out. I got to get a little more. American, a little more English about. this. >> Yes. Oh, are you expecting another. child? >> We are. Yes. I It's another So, happy. Mother's Day to you and to my poor. belleaguered wife with our three and a. half children. Three that she's juggling. all at once and then one of them half.

cooking as we speak. >> Congrats. That's great news. Yes, I know. the names. We take a lot of guff for. them because a lot of people do not like. the unusual names, but. >> they're great. >> They they came by them honestly. Yates. is named after. >> Doug's dad, >> uh, whose name was Manley Yates Brunt. Um, and so we didn't want to go with. Manley, but we liked Yates. And my dad, too. His full name is Edward Yates. But. >> and then when you have a kid named. Yates, you know, you can't go with like. an for your next kid. So anyway,

Yardley, I'm pretty sure, is named after. a very fat, bald man in the movie. Christmas in Connecticut, Alexander. Yardley, which I had seen. And like. shortly after I saw it, I was like, I've. got it. It's Yardley. And so yeah, she. knows she's named after a very fat old. bald man in the newspaper business. though, so that's good. I'm sure. magazine at least. >> Yeah. And then along came Thatcher. But. yeah, my my nana, God love her, she. lived to 101. She said, "They have to. live with those names." She was. >> there ex I am calling for to all of the.

many many listeners I am calling for a. resurgence a revival of good solid waspy. American names. Uh this is a great and I. might I might be the first one to follow. suit frankly when our when our new. >> do it. Yes. I I've got some I've got. some um some suggestions for I remember. there was one family name on Doug's side. for our daughter that we quickly. rejected but it was it was uh you know. old school. You know, a lot of people. like to name their kids old school. names. >> Parthnia.

>> Parthnia. >> Parthnia. >> That's my middle name. >> How would you like that? Parthnia. Brunt. Oh my god. You're asking to get. beaten up. >> Parthnia. I love it. I love it. That's. beautiful. This uh you know, obviously. with demographic change, mass migration, a lot names come and go in the UK now. You know, nine out of 10 kids is. Muhammad basically. I that what we talk. about all the ways we got to restrict. migration. Sure. We got to increase the. birth rate. But if we could just name a. whole generation of Parthnias, that. would go a long way to preserving the. culture. I I [laughter] just love it.

>> It's true. We might be back on track. You rais a good point. All right. And. speaking of getting back on track, let's. talk about this wonderful redistricting. win out of the Commonwealth of Virginia. So they tried to get too cube by half. down there and go from a 65. split Dems's Republicans on their. districts within the Commonwealth of. Virginia and change it to a 10 to1. Democrat advantage. And um they did this. by a ballot initiative that did not make. at all clear to the voters what they.

were voting on. You know, it used sort. of flowery language that made it just. sound like do you favor democracy? And. sure enough, they did. And before they. knew it, their entire state, which is. almost half Republicans, uh was their. districts were wiped out. They they. ensured almost entire Democrat rule for. years to come. The Republicans filed a. lawsuit saying that's They. didn't follow the proper procedures in. order to get something like that passed. And um the high court in Virginia,

Virginia's highest court agreed and. really. like gave it to the Democrats on this. obvious nasty procedural maneuvering. saying you've completely violated the. law. This will not stand. And now there. is a serious discussion going amongst. some Democrats about whether they should. immediately pass a new law limiting. those who can be eligible for the. state's highest court to anyone under.

age 54, which would make all of the. current justices ineligible and would. lead to them losing their seats right. away. At which point the theory is the. the game plan is to then replace them. It's I think it's seven of them with new. judges who promise in advance that they. will overrule the decision this the. court just handed down and find the. opposite way upholding this new scheme.

which would completely invalidate the. state's judiciary forever. It will it. they will lose all legitimacy if they do. this. It is one of, if not the most. extreme. things I've ever heard someone say about. how to respond to a judicial decision. one does not like. And yet it's. reportedly being seriously considered by. Virginia Democrats in the wake of this. devastating blow to their plan. Your. thoughts?

>> Well, this is not anything new for the. Democrat playbook. This goes back some. 80, 90 years now. Franklin Roosevelt. when his New Deal programs were being. struck down as unconstitutional. at infanitum decided that he was just. going to blow up the Supreme Court and. he was going to rearrange it such that. he would have a rubber stamp and the the. only reason he didn't follow through. with that in fact was because one of the. justices decided to flip at the last. minute to try to preserve something like. the integrity of the Supreme Court. So. they call it the switch in time that. saves nine. Uh but but Democrats have. wanted to do this for a long time. They.

threatened to do it at the federal. level. So there's no surprise. Uh now. the downside for them is I think people. see through it. Coincidentally, I was. just up last week at Dartmouth. I was. debating the left-wing pundit Medi. Hassan over uh whether or not Trump has. upheld the Constitution. And this is. Dartmouth. This is a liberal Ivy League. campus. Obviously overwhelmingly hates. Trump. But what was very interesting is. this was a formal debate. So you could. see who objectively won and lost. And. even at this very liberal campus, there.

was a six-point swing. Happy to say I. won the debate, even though Medi wrote a. book called How to How to Win Every. Debate. Very happy to say. Well, there. will be a new edition, How to Win Every. Debate Except Against Michael. But even. be it's not that I I had such, you know, stunning rhetoric or anything like that. It's just very simple. Everybody knows. that Trump has upheld the Constitution. and people recognize that today at the. state level and at the federal level. The great threats to the constitutional. order come from the Democrats. I mean,

here they're talking about essentially. throwing out the Supreme Court in. Virginia. But what's so stunning is that. the the Democrats are getting knocked. down on constitutional points every. which way. I think a lot of people are. going to be confused. They're going to. think that the reason the redistricting. in Virginia has gone down is because of. the US Supreme Court decision, Louisiana. versus Cala, which said that Democrats. can no longer uh racially discriminate. in their gerrymandering. That that was. uh a violation of the 14th Amendment. But but no, this is actually different. The Democrats are getting struck down on.

their redistricting on multiple fronts. at the federal level, at the state. level. And all of this, Megan, brings. back a memory to me. About two months. ago, I was interviewing the House. Speaker, Mike Johnson. And I said, you. know, "Hey, Mr. Speaker, things are. looking pretty bad for the midterms, huh?" And he looks at me, he says, "Michael." He looks me dead in the eye. He says, "Michael, I think we're going. to grow the majority in the midterms." I. said, "Well, what's in your coffee? Hold. on. Can I have a can I have a sip of. that? I don't know what if you smoked. something before this interview, but you. know," he said, he looked at me dead in. the eyes. He says, "I think we're going.

to grow the majority." And I said, "Well, I like the enthusiasm. I like the. optimism, but I don't know. I don't know. if I agree with that." Now that we are. looking because of the Virginia Supreme. Court decision, the US Supreme Court. decision, redistricting going on around. the country, we are looking at a. potential gain of 14 congressional seats. for Republicans. I I'm now thinking that. House Speaker Mike Johnson is Babe Ruth. calling his shot to center field. If. this actually works out for Republicans, it's a big if, but if it does, that will.

be the greatest political call in the. history of the US Congress. >> I'm I'm counting here because you've got. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 14. You have five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 14. Yes. And Democrats look like they're going to. gain six seats from redistricting, which, you know, according to my math is. less than 14. So that's good. Um, at. least even I can do that. Um, however, the problem is the question is.

how big, >> right, >> will the swing likely be to Democrats? I. think most non Republican speaker people. think the Democrats are going to pick up. seats because the party out of power. almost always does and because of the. poll numbers surrounding everything. Trump is doing right now. Unfortunately, the president's numbers, I mean, across. the board are in the bottom third. I. mean, they're just really bad. >> Yeah, it's rough and especially. >> just as a political reality. >> We were talking about the Iran war. I.

mean, that's the that's the big wild. card. But, you know, the the point that. the Democrats can make is that the. president's poll numbers and the GOP's. poll numbers are quite bad right now. The point the Republicans can make is. that's true, but Democrats are also. historically unpopular right now. Uh, which is how you might get I don't know, people are talking about a potential. upset in the LA mayor's race. I'm pretty. skeptical of that, but both parties are. looking very, very bad. And then you. have the wild card of the Iran war, which is that if the war continues to. drag on and we have a recession or we.

just have surging gas prices or we right. now housing is looking very shaky. Uh. and obviously you get a lot of inflation. the longer that the straight remains. closed. All of that could have a very. very acute effect on the midterm. elections. Frankly, that is what the. Iranians are counting on. That's. probably the chief aspect of their. political strategy right now. and then. what the Trump administration's counting. on is that Iran just implodes before. that happens. Uh so that that's that. very dangerous game. But I agree with.

you. I mean, by all historical. precedent, Republicans should be. probably blown out of the water in the. midterms. Uh whether or not these. decisions from the courts can help to uh. stop the tide, obviously that remains to. be seen. Yeah, I mean they'll certainly stem some. of the bleeding, but. you know, as I pointed out earlier in. 2018, that was Trump's first term, his. first midterms, the Republicans lost 40 seats. >> Yeah. >> Now, we also I don't know, we expected a.

big Republican wave during President. Biden's midterms, remember, in the. middle of his term in uh 2022. >> And I remember talking to you that night. and we didn't get it. the Republicans. did take control of the House, but it. was really slim. You know, they barely. they barely had the the margin. And that. slim margin has been relevant uh ever. since. So, it's like maybe that same. dynamic will kick in here and save the.

Republicans to where like people are. what they are and they don't really flip. around in their partisan voting anymore. And it's like, you know, I I view it like, okay, so these people. voted for Trump and they weren't all. Republicans. It's like getting married. and like you your wife is like a size. four and she's young and she's got the. flax and hair and the flowing dress and. she makes you all your meals in the. beginning and then a couple years into. it like she's gained a hundred pounds. and she just sits on the couch all day.

and watches shows. the kids are unckempt. and you never get a drink brought to. you, never mind a meal made and you're. like, "There's a hot sexy lady at the. office paying me attention." But then. you get a little closer and the hot sexy. lazy at the office is crazy. She wants. to cut the penises off of your children. She [laughter]. wants to let millions of people into. your home to take your job. You're like, "You know what? My my original choice isn't looking so. bad." So, we're lucky over here on Team.

Sanity that the left is so nuts and it. could it could save us. >> I I certainly hope so. I hope that we. have the discipline that when we. leerously show up to the office water. cooler and stand over the desk of that. beautiful looking woman who looks. suspiciously like a mixture of Gavin. Newsome and AOC that we recognize it is. [laughter] not worth it. It is not. She's going to chop it off. It's not. worth it. As you say, I agree. and and. you you do actually see that reflected.

in some of the polls. I mean, obviously. the the admin has has taken a hit, but. the Democrats are looking really really. bad. There was that oped in the New York. Times just published yesterday, I think. it was, maybe today, that said that. Democrats need to stop talking about. climate change, which was their. existential, fundamentally religious issue for. decades at this point. I mean, AOC made. her career on the Green New Deal. Uh Al. Gore made his career on on that. PowerPoint movie and the Democrats have. been talking about this since 1972. Now.

they're saying pull the plug on that. They're obviously trying to downplay the. trans issue unsuccessfully though. because they haven't changed their. opinions at all. Uh they're trying to. downplay their support for open borders. They can't really even hide that. So we. are lucky that the Democrat strategy, they told us this months ago, was. they're going to run like Abigail. Spanberger in Virginia. Abigail. Spanberger, who pretended to be a. moderate and then immediately upon. taking office, gave us the most. left-wing agenda we'd ever seen in. Virginia. The problem with that is we've. now seen how it plays out. And so when.

you push these people even a little bit, you saw it in the California governor. debate, you saw it in the LA mayor. debate, when you ask them on any of. these issues, you know, do you want to. give welfare to illegals? Do you want, you know, do you do you want to just. open up the borders to your country? They all say yes. They can't they can't. help it. And uh yeah, I mean that's I. always say the Republican party is the. worst party in the United States other. than the Democrats. >> That's exactly it. That's what they have. to bank on. It'll be interesting this. month as Jerome Powell steps down from.

the Fed and we have his replacement come. into power, you know, because I think. Trump thinks the new guy will be more, you know, someone who can work with him. on interest rates to try to get the. economy going. But of course, the reason. that Powell doesn't want to lower. interest rates is he's still worried. about inflation. Trump doesn't think. that's a problem. But as inflation. starts to gear up again as a result of. this oil problem we're having, this. energy issue, I wonder whether the new guy will be.

inclined to lower interest rates, you. know what I mean? Because inflation's. more relevant right now than it was two. months ago. That'll be an interesting. thing to watch as we go into the summer. Um, and yeah, the Democrats have a lot. they have a lot on their plate that they. have to deal with, too. We'll see. They. got only the electorate can tell us its. mood, and we'll find out in about six. months. >> You know, nothing drives inflation as. reliably as as energy, obviously. And. this is just one of these points that. when you zoom out from the historical. perspective, I think this is what caused. a lot of skepticism on the Iran war is,

you know, the way President Trump talks. about it, I think he's totally sincere. I think he viewed this as a digression. because it met his non-negotiable line. which is we can't let Iran have a. nuclear weapon and may you know. reasonable minds might disagree about. how close Iran was to a nuclear weapon. but he said look that's satisfied my. criterion so we're going to go there but. it's just going to be a little. digression don't worry about it it's. we're going to put it in a compartment. over here and then we're going to get. back to our agenda and the problem. especially when it comes to war but. really with any geopolitical event is.

you can't just compartmentalize it all. of a sudden There's so many. externalities. There's so many. unintended consequences that yes, to. your point, Megan, you might even be. getting into issues with the Fed because. even if they were inclined to cut rates, maybe now gas prices, oil's driving. inflation up a little too much because. it raises cost of any good that's. shipped. And all of a sudden now that. has an effect on housing and all, you. know, these things spin out of control. This is one reason that we conservatives. are a little shy about wielding the.

government than the left is the left. thinks they can control everything in. society. And really you can't. >> Yeah. Well, AOC, you mentioned her. Um, she Yeah. Green New Deal, that was her. big thing. She also had uh pronouns in. her Twitter bio which have been removed. So, those are two small victories as you. know, her her green energy push gets. demolished by her own party and she's. taken out the the the pronouns. But, she's on to a new thing which she stole. from Bernie Sanders. And here's well.

it's a bunch of disinformation but it. also gives you the highlight of where. she's going. S 23. >> the American Revolution. was against the billionaires of their. time and we are declaring independence. from such an extreme marriage of wealth. and power and the state. wrong again. So apparently if you were. to calculate George Washington's net.

worth in 2026 numbers, it would equate. to $600 million. So he he really wasn't. about fighting the rich. That's not. really what the American Revolution was. about either. But details, Michael, details. uh George. Washington, not only was his estate. worth, yes, as you say, Megan, the. equivalent of about $600 million, he. also had neglected his plantation for. all the years of his public service. So, you could say, well, he wasn't. technically the equivalent of a. billionaire. He actually might have.

been, you know, he was sacrificing a lot. of his uh wealth in order to fight for. the revolution, but we have some other. data points as well. George Washington. was not the single wealthiest person in. the colonies at the time. He was pretty. close, but not the single most. Uh that. would probably go to Robert Morris who. is one of the few founding fathers who. signed the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the. Constitution, the single wealthiest man. in the colonies at the time of the. revolution. But [clears throat] it's not. just him. Uh think about the most famous.

signature associated with any of the. documents of the founding. That would of. course be John Hancock. So so identified. with with the founding that it actually. became a synonym for a signature. You. know, give us your John Hancock. John. Hancock, far and away one of the. wealthiest people in the colonies at the. time. That's why it was such a statement. when he wrote his name clearly and in. large font because he was risking. everything. So what I love about AOC's. little history lesson here is not only. is she a little bit off, she kind of, you know, messed around with a few.

facts. She is perfectly. 100% wrong. Her view is entirely. diametrically opposed to the truth. And. if anything, a reconsideration of the. American Revolution should really make. us love billionaires even more. >> I mean, honestly, like one of their. biggest complaints was taxation without. representation. They didn't want England. taking all of that money without them. having any say in the matter. So, you. have to have means in order to object to.

the government taking them, something. she conveniently ignores. She failed on. every front. I don't know what they're. teaching them at Boston University right. now, Michael. But her year, I think she. was out she was out to lunch or she was. too busy making those margaritas. Um, somebody who does show political. promise, unlike AOC, is Spencer Pratt. You mentioned him. And this guy, it's. been very fun to watch him go unleash a. can of reality whoopass on our friends. in California. Now, I want to start with.

what you said before. You remain. skeptical. I remain skeptical, too, because it's. California. I mean, what are the odds. they're going to do the right thing? He's still trailing in the polls behind. Karen Bass. The poly market and Kshi, you know, that's the betting markets. Look at these two shows Spencer. significantly improving his odds since. that debate of last week, but Karen Bass. also significantly improved and she's. reportedly some 20 points ahead of him. in the betting markets and double digits.

ahead of him in the actual polls. The. other woman is basically imploded as a. result of that uh debate, but you remain. skeptical that Californians are actually. going to do it. Notwithstanding, let me. just show something uh from him. notwithstanding amazing. He shared this. to his his social media. It's s 19B and. it's um him in an ad showing the streets. of homes in Los Angeles and drug. addicts. Watch.

>> street [music]. [music]. bikes. >> [music]. >> black. >> Now they're zeroing into something at. the end. [music]. [singing]. >> And it's a [music] homeless encounter. Your street [singing] deserves better.

LA deserves better. [music]. >> Vote Pratt for LA mayor. Excellent. Right. No one's there. No. kids on bikes. No girls doing hopscotch. uh or jump rope. nothing because this. neighborhood, like so many others in LA, really is suffering from a homelessness. problem that becomes a drug problem. doors away from where their children. play. >> You know, uh, one of the attack ads on.

Spencer Pratt, which I thought was a. parody, came out and and said, you know, Spencer Pratt doesn't want to give a. bunch of your money to junky bums. Spencer Pratt doesn't [laughter] want to. funnel all your cash to unions or. whatever. And I thought, "Oh, this is. clearly a right-winger who who is uh. making a joke about this." No, apparently it was a real ad uh from an. AFL CIO union. You can you can read this. in the Electoral Commission reports. And. so they're completely out of touch. And. Spencer Pratt is is tapping into.

something real. This is why he can go on. TV in news interviews and say, you know, they call me the reality star. Yeah, I'm. the only candidate in touch with. reality. The problem is what you. mentioned Megan on the couchy and poly. market uh prediction markets which is. yes when he came out there at that. debate and just completely dominated you. know created the legend of Pratt Daddy. just coming home and restoring order. Unfortunately all that really did was. get rid of Nidia Ramen who was the. socialist from the city council. And you.

say okay well at least you take the. really far-left candidate out. Well, we. had a socialist on the city council. running for mayor, but the current. mayor, Karen Bess, was a card carrying. communist. She was a member of an actual. communist organization. That's why Joe. Biden overlooked her when he said that. he was going to pick a running mate who. was a black woman. He had three choices. He had Karen Bass, who was a communist. He had Susan Rice, who was Obama's full. man for Benghazi. That left Kla Harris. That's the only way she got that job. But but Karen Bass was in the running. She was just way too radical. And and.

so, look, it's LA. It's Gomorra by the. sea, as we fondly call it. And uh there. there's just not a ton of evidence that. uh Pratt's going to be able to, you. know, get the lift that is required. You. know, it could consolidate the race so. that now you only have one crazy. Democrat. Uh I hope I want every. Republican out there, I wish him all the. best. I want to do everything I can to. support his campaign. Any sane person. needs to go vote for Pratt. The problem. is LA just isn't sane. I mean, if if the. last I've seen it up close for the last.

10, 12 years. If if the homeless. encampments, the junkies, the crime, the. all of it burning the city down on at. least one occasion, if that doesn't lead. you to vote for Republicans, I'm afraid. the very best ad in the world is not. going to convince you either. I know. One of my producers lives in. California, Lauren, and she's um she's. given me about 40 sound bites from. Spencer Pratt, because she's so. desperate to see him elected. She's, you. know, a good she's a good nice Orange.

County California Republican. Um and. those poor, reasonable people are left. in a in a field of hard leftists who. still like Karen Bass after she burned. down their city. I mean, it's like, forget the homelessness. She burned down. their city. There's there like there's. no more Palestades and yet she's leading. in the polls. Here's a little bit more. from Spencer. I want to show this. Um. Oh, wait. We have the ad to which you. refer that you um you thought was an ad. for him, but really it was a it was an.

attack ad here in s uh I think it's 19. from the AFL CIO. >> Republican Spencer Pratt is the last. thing Los Angeles [music] needs for. mayor. Pratt opposes using taxpayer. money to build brand new houses for our. unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for. the homeless to get help or get out. Pratt thinks LA needs thousands more. police officers rather than more social. workers. And Republican Spencer Pratt. thinks public employee unions should. have less power, not more. LA is on the. right track and needs to stay the.

course. Vote no on Republican Spencer. Pratt. >> Oh [laughter] my god, that really is. incredible. Spencer Pratt doesn't want. to kick puppies. Spencer Pratt loves. tasty apple pie. Like, what are who are. you appealing to? What is what is the. argument? [laughter]. >> It does show you something about the. average California Democrat like that. that they thought that ad would be. really effective and maybe it will be. That's is crazy. Like, we're laughing,

but they're probably right. They their. their neighbors probably loved what they. wrote because you did you saw at the. Katie Porter debate, right, with with um. Steve Hilton [clears throat]. >> and others. That was the gubanatorial. debate. You saw it was like, >> "Is it true that you want to continue. using taxpayer money to fund healthcare. for illegals?" And she's like, "Absolutely. Of course, that's what's. humane." It was like, "Oh my gosh." Wow. She's saying it out loud. Okay, wait. Let me keep going with Spencer because. back to CBS. Um they did a 28 interview.

with the guy, 28 minute interview and it. wound up in a threeinut hit piece he. said and we looked at it. It really was. slanted. They only include like they. highlighted his time on reality TV. including a sound bite from it. They had. a sound bite from a detractor rolling. her eyes at him. And of all the great. points he made, they used one 40-2. soundbite. He spoke to them for a half. an hour, but they had plenty of time for.

the Hills clips, uh, for his detractors. clips. It's like, okay, what are we. doing here? Um, here is a little bit. from the interview. And this is, uh, uh, 15. >> Are you being strategic now or is this. is this the authentic Spencer Pratt? >> I'm standing in my Airstream of my. burned down house. So, I'm being. strategic to fight these people that. have destroyed my life, my neighbor's. life, all of Angelino's life. So, yes, I'm being very strategic to win and save.

LA. But no, there's no strategy when. you're standing in an airirstream on. your burnout town. You can't fake that. There's no bit to that. I would much. rather be in my house feeding my. hummingbirds and have my life back. But. that wasn't God's path for me. And so. now I'm going to undo the harm these. people are doing to a lot of people in. the city of LA. And back to this thing, for instance, they say, "Oh, he seems so. angry." Everyone I talk to in LA is. angry. They're actually angrier than me. cuz I have a beautiful two kids, a.

beautiful wife. Some people are alone. and they're dealing with the destruction. of their city, not feeling safe on the. streets, all the disasters in this city. They're alone. At least I have my. family. I was a professional villain. I. was a TV character per se and I don't. regret one of those things because it. was a show. I worked with the producers. I worked with the story writers and. everything was fake. Everybody thought I. was this bad boy. 20 years later I'm. still with my wife. We have two. beautiful kids.

>> Okay. So that was a long clip from the. outtakes. Michael, a small portion of. that made it into the three-minute. piece. But the 3 minute and 30 second. tape spot which had just 4 seconds. seconds 46 seconds of Pratt's interview. uh also included. um let's see. this line about him. The 42-year-old. former reality star who has no political. experience is now a main character in. the Los Angeles mayoral race. They. featured debate clips with Karen Bass, including Karen Bass, saying, "For the.

first time, we've had a reduction of. homelessness two years in a row because. of policies that I have put in place.". That's kind of favorable toward Karen. Bass, don't you think? You really could. have highlighted some other portions of. that debate. And then then they've got a. political pundit in there who says uh it. would be a hard road to convince a blue. city like LA to vote for a candidate. like Pratt, identifying him quote as not. only a novice politician, but somebody. who has pretty much aligned himself with. Trump and Republicans. So he's now.

saying he's never going to give CBS an. interview again and that if he becomes. mayor and gets reelected one time that. for the entire eight years he will not. be speaking to them as how mad he is. about what they did make you wonder. where whether it's even worth it you. know to sit down with these outlets that. are just that are just going to do a. piece like that about you. Yeah, it's. it's very tempting because network news. still has decent penetration, especially, you know, it doesn't play as. much online, but among ordinary people.

who go out and vote, uh, it is important. to reach them. What's confounding about. the CBS interview, the the hit job on. Pratt, is that CBS is supposed to be the. most moderate uh, of the three. When. Barry Weiss took over there, the promise. was that it was going to be, look, she's. not a conservative, but it was going to. be at least a little more centrist, a. little more fair. I myself, I've done. interviews with CBS, and I thought they. were actually more than fair to me. So, the question is why why Pratt? Why are. they going after Pratt? And I wonder if.

there's a a pragmatic decision here, which is they they don't think he's. going to win, and so they're willing to. kind of write him off and cast him to. the side. This is all psycho babble. It's pure speculation, but it is a. strange zag. After after CBS had been. positioning itself as being the network. most fair and favorable to. conservatives, why would why would they. go out and really really smack down the. the most exciting local. >> such a joke? You know, that hasn't. happened at all. You know, it's like,

yes, they stated that because the. Ellison's have some affinity for Trump, but Barry Weiss doesn't. If you ever. read the free press, and I did all the. time, um, it's not woke, but it's not. proTrump. They don't like Trump. And. that's her. She's not woke, except on. the issue of Israel and anti-semitism. She's very woke, as woke as they come on. that. She's as identity politics. favorable as BLM is to its issues. Um, but she doesn't like Trump. So, this. line about him being a, you know, aligned himself with the mag. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure she's not. monitoring every piece that they do, but. that line would not be a problem uh with. the Barry Weiss. I knew she'd be fine. with that. Um, we'll see. I I'm rooting. for him. I love what he's doing, and I. think even if he loses this race, Michael, he may have a future in. politics, notwithstanding. I don't know. whether he'll throw his hat into a. national race of some sort. Uh, but I. think he's helping redefine who can run.

for office and how it can be done. You. know, he's it's very that is very. Trump-like if you, you know, if you. think about it, the way he's going about. it, he just doesn't care. The the. mocking face when. >> Yeah. >> the other candidate was like making fun. of him. He's like, you know, that's. great stuff. He's fearless. >> And Trump Trump himself is literally a. reality TV star, so the parallels are. pretty close. I thought Pratt's great. response to this question of uh, you. know, you don't have any experience in. politics, so what makes you think you. could be the mayor is, well, it was.

actually Trump's response when he became. the Republican nominee without ever. having held public office. He says, look. at what experience got us. >> Yeah. Okay. Well, if if Experience in LA. is burning down the Palisades while. you're on another continent and the fire. is being caused by one of your own one. of your own ideological comrades, this. left-wing arsonist, allegedly, then uh. if that's experience, I want the. opposite. Give me a novice, please. I I'. I'd trust him a lot more with my home.

>> What good has her experience done LA? I. mean, it's just look, if they continue. to put Democrats in power after Gavin. Newsome ruined their state and Karen. Bass let it burn, they deserve what's. coming their way. I love you. Californians, but you deserve it because. you can't just keep electing the same. kinds of people and expecting different. results. It's just that's not the way. the world works. Um, all right, let me. take a quick break and we're going to. come right back. There's much much more. to discuss, including an update in the. most bizarre case happening at JP.

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qualify for a first-time gold buyer. rebate of up to $10,000. So, Michael, I don't know if you've been. following this JP Morgan saga, [music]. but uh there is this man who is accusing. a an executive there named Lorna Hajini. of allegedly harassing him in some very. bizarre and yours truly finds not. credible ways. Um, the banker's name is. Shiraay Rana. He's the complainant. And.

I mentioned Lorna is the accused. JP. Morgan denies all of this. And she. denies all of this, saying, "Never, never a sexual interlude. We never had. sexual relations of any kind. I never. drugged him." He alleges that she gave. him both Rohypnol and Viagra so that she. could rape him. Not to mention the. alleged time that she forced him, he. claims, to allow her to go down on him, which she did, but he cried the whole.

time. He wants us to know, he cried. during the entire Wendy, as I understand. it's called by some men. Okay. Um, now. we are learning more about him per there. was a deep dive in the Wall Street. Journal on Saturday. It was very good. It says, first of all, correcting the. record on a couple things, he apparently. is unmarried. There had been reports he. was married. He's unmarried. He was not. having any sort of an affair. He um had. alleged she was his supervisor. She. wasn't. We actually reported that.

correctly here on this program. Um they. report that outside of work, these two. were regularly communicating with each. other in group texts and would sometimes. go out together as a group. On occasion, co-workers would joke about Ra's. Nepalese background in the chats and. refer to Indian men as quote brown boys. That's a term he claimed she used. against him. Ra liked one message. This. is the plaint of Ra where a colleague. asked quote if a brown boy could join a.

gathering. One screenshot reviewed by. the Wall Street Journal shows uh they. write that Rana and Hajini also. exchanged seemingly friendly text. messages with Hudgeini sending him. Soundcloud links and memes. According to. these screenshots, uh nothing though. about screenshots showing her harassing. him, calling him any sort of derogatory. words, trying to command him as her sex. slave as he's claiming in this lawsuit. And we learned late last week that JP.

Morgan tried to settle this case before. he filed it for a million dollars. He. rejected it. He originally wanted he was. demanding 11 and now he's asking for 22. million. The Wall Street Journal report. does point out he's been at several. banks over the past I think 10 years. He's got somewhat of a you know short. work history at every bank he's gone to. None of whom want to comment on the. record about him. And then of course it. broke that he had taken family. bereavement leave for his dead father.

and his father is alive and well. >> There's an intimation now in the Wall. Street Journal report that there may be. someone who's like a father to him who. he's now saying that may have been okay. that's not how bereavement leave works. It has generally does like father has a. defi definition definition can't just be. like you know the the superintendent of. your apartment building past and you. need time. um colleagues uh kids who went to school.

with him in college he went to Ruters. remember him as driven and ambitious. um others recall him as socially awkward. uh some say he could be aggressive while. playing sports at Rutgers he's from. Vienna Virginia a wealthy suburb B uh. the first of Nepali's immigrants, firstborn I should say, and that's about. it. So he cycled through prestigious. financial firms including Credit Swiss, Morgan Stanley, Carla Group, and an.

affiliate of Apollo Global Management uh. and so on, but never stayed at anyone. for a particularly long time and didn't. make it at JP Morgan for a particularly. long time. And then when he left JP. Morgan, didn't make it at the next firm. that he was with right before he filed. this lawsuit for a particularly long. time. All of which leaves us where, Michael Nolles. >> Well, look, maybe it's all a big. misunderstanding because if if he uh. initially claimed that his father had. died and then it turns out his father. didn't die, but it was someone who was.

like a father to him, maybe there was. someone at at JP Morgan who was like a. dominatrix to him. you know, it wasn't. this girl uh, you know, sort of. straddling him throughout the day at his. cubicle, but maybe there was someone who. was kind of like, uh, his, I don't know, sexual harasser. It's also very confusing because we were. told initially that Mr. Cherayu, whatever he he had a wife whom he called. a, pardon the phrase, it's from the. reporting that he who was a fish head,

he said. And then and even then. >> Lorna allegedly said that that he. alleges that his harasser said, >> "Look at these." Taking off her top. Does your fish head Asian wife have. anything resembling these cannons? >> That's the key. No, Megan. I guess. there's no. >> This is the key. When I knew for a fact. it was all untrue. Not just because this. woman is very good-looking. Plenty of. good-looking women are totally nuts. Uh. and not just because she had a good job. There women in finance are definitely. nuts. Well, and not just because this.

guy has a checkered history. It was that. word cannons. You know, I had heard the. slur that he allegedly called his wife. before because I watched Gran Torino. with Clint Eastwood, a great movie, but. it was cannons because maybe you can. clarify this for me, Megan. As far as I. can tell, no woman has ever actually. referred to No, I mean men do, but there. is no this uh lawsuit, in my humble. opinion. Uh reads like a penthouse. letter. You asked if I've been following.

the story. I've been reading the news. reports a little, but only late at night. when I can turn the blinds down because. it's embarrassing even to read this kind. of material. I've barely covered it on. this show. It's saucy. It's sultry. It. comes from this guy's crazy fantasies. and I suspect he will not be getting a. single dollar. >> I agree with you entirely. This is our. opinion that this man is making this up. No woman has referred to her breasts as. cannons. Any term of art about the. breasts I've ever heard a woman say.

literally every time has been the girls. I just women they're not throwing around. like cute terms really for they'll say. breasts boobs the t-word but like I've. never heard a woman call them can. >> baz that's another one I don't think the. women use that's more of a male term I. mean know we could look Megan we could. fill three shows with all of the. euphemisms but that was a tell to me. that is not a lady term. >> yes. I agree and I'm just going to be honest. like this woman looks very attractive.

this guy. you know, he looks pretty nerdy. He. doesn't really look like anything. special that you'd risk your entire. career for. Though, that's not to say. that some women can't have psychological. issues. And maybe there's something. about this really super tall guy who. allegedly played basketball at Ruckers. He claimed she squeezed his calf muscle. and said, "Oh, you really did play. basketball, didn't you?" Which also. sounds fake. Yeah. >> Um maybe there was something about him. that did it for her. But this to me. seems like a disgusting smear campaign. And I will say I'm also very suspicious.

of these short work stints. He left JP. Morgan like a year ago and in that time. found a new job and left it already. Okay. There you when someone wants to. come work for Michael Nolles, >> you look at the resume and one of the. first things you look for is okay, what. other jobs have they had and how long. did they hold them? >> Right? because if it's little short less. than one year stints, this person is the.

problem, not the job. >> Yeah, it's all sorts of red flags here. And then even just the the specificity. of the supposed episodes like the one. you referenced it earlier so I'm not you. know I'm not telling tales out of. schooler that where he says that she. came up to him gave him multiple drugs. supposedly pleasured him and he cried. tears not of joy tears of joy maybe you. could understand from this guy. [laughter] but tears I just nothing like.

every single red flag for scammer is. going off here. And I do feel for this. woman, assuming that this is all bogus, which I think we we mostly do. This this. woman, I think she is married, like she. has a family. It it is it's really awful. that she's been dragged through the mud. >> I don't know if she's married. >> I haven't heard that. >> I thought she was. I could be wrong. She's like a very. >> She's got a reputation to uphold. It's. very hard to make it in a man's world at. JP Morgan on Wall Street. You kidding. me? this girl is like the unicorn that.

she's made it this far and she's well. respected and she's apparently on a good. fast track and it's like boom she gets. saddled with this like this is. I mean listen it's happened to a lot of. men too. >> then it'd be taken probably a lot more. seriously if if it were a woman alleging. this stuff about a man but this just. sounds so incredibly laughable the. roypnol. >> Viagra combo I mean honestly we don't. even know if this is a medical. possibility you know [clears throat]. like the Viagra can just work on that. one appendage. And like everything's been knocked out.

Your arms and legs are like this, but. your one other appendage is at. attention. I just don't buy it. Michael. Nolar. >> No, this is It reads both as uh. pornography, you know, it reads like. penthouse or Playboy, but it also reads. like science fiction. I don't know. I've. never tried it. I don't intend to try. it. A cigar and a scotch is about as far. as I go. [laughter] Uh so we'll have to. let the courts figure it out. >> All right. note to my team. Today we. will get the answer to whether this is. possible. We know people. We know.

professionals. Um I don't know who do we. call. Do we call like a prostate cancer. doc? Do we call we can find this out? We. are going to have this. [laughter]. >> we're going to have this answer for you. tomorrow here on the MK show. All right, before we go, we've got to spend one. minute on poor Jerry Oonnell. I really. like Jerry Oonnell. He's so fun on. social media. He he was in Stand by Me. Uh he was in Jerry Maguire. Um he's he.

married to Rebecca Ramjin, formerly. Rebecca Ramjan Stamos, who's a. supermodel. But boy oh boy, he gave an. interview to Jamie Kennedy and came up. with the very very wrong answer about. what he would do. I think he's got three. or four daughters if he saw a trans. person in their bathroom. S 21. Not to. make this about horoscopes, but I'm an. Aquarian. I let I water flows. I let. water flow. I'm I'm like water, baby.

>> Let's say you're at the Montage Hotel. >> Okay. Fancy hotel. Five-star boutique. >> You're in the lobby. >> Sure. >> And there is a guy there who's about 35. years old. >> Person. >> Person. Well, he's a guy. I'm going to. tell you why he's a guy. Cuz he's. wearing a dress. He's wearing like a. Jill Sanders skirt. >> Oh, fun. >> And um you notice that his his unit is. hanging out and it's about 8 in. >> 8 in.

>> Yeah. Soft. And he goes into the women's. room. What say you? But he's wearing his Jill. Sanders skirt. >> I would say nothing. >> OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T. AND THAT'S WHY. WE'RE HERE. I would say nothing. Nothing. Um, it's. the wrong answer. It's a fail and it's. cowardly and it's going to endanger his. twin daughters. That's what he has. Your. thoughts, Michael? >> That is the politics. That's the church.

of nice. That's the morality of the. people who think on the left and you. even get this on the right. A little. lazy fair. Don't yuck my yum. Do. whatever you want. Who's to say? I don't. want to be an authoritarian. I don't. know. I'm not going to tell you how I. see things, folks. If we cannot insist. on basic truths and conclusions, basic. limits, we cannot have a society. If it. is authoritarian to keep the man with. the giant appendage out of the. daughter's bathroom, then call me.

[laughter] Francisco Franco. Giant. Michael, [laughter]. thank you. Always wonderful to see you. Uh, tomorrow we are back with Garagos. and Murphy of the Well. We're gonna ask. Garos about the new Michael Jackson. movie. He was his client. See you then.