The TRUTH About Lively and Reynolds, Potential CBS Lawsuit, and Russini Scandal, w/ Maureen Callahan

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly show and happy. Friday. We are learning that Blake. Lively's settlement with Justin Baldoni. was an even bigger disaster for the. actress than we thought. We have the. details. Plus, a top CBS host is. reportedly out at the network and is, we. are told, getting ready to sue and fight. the new Barry Weiss regime. Plus, Don. Lemon says he might run for president. Could we be that lucky? Joining me now.

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at checkout to make sure you get that. discount. brooklyn betting.com promo. code megn. >> So good to see you. >> It's so good to see you. There's been so. much happening and I've been like I'm. dying to talk to Megan. >> I know. I feel like let's start with the. Met Gala because we both reacted to it, but we haven't talked to each other. about it. And we have to start with. Blake Lively because she's pretending. that she got a massive victory in this. settlement with Justin Baldon this week. when it's exactly the opposite. She.

didn't get $1. >> Now she's making noise about wanting to. sue for her attorney's fees. So, we'll. see how that goes for her. But honestly, even if she were to get those, it would. just res restore what she spent, it's. not a victory. It's not a win. It's not. damages, right, that she's getting for. being allegedly wronged as she's been. claiming for all this time. So, the day. of the settlement, she thought that she. would appear at the Met Gala and it.

would be her triumphant, you know, spike. the ball moment, Moren. and instead she. humiliated herself by snapping out this. poor male valet who is fluffing the. train of her dress and let the mask down. yet again on what a nasty person she is. Plus, there's more. But before I get to. the sound we're going to play, you tell. me your thoughts on that. It feels um. very Marcollian. would be my port manto for this.

Machavelian Megan Marklesque, right? because it makes me think of that. moment. Remember after the queen died. and Harry and Megan did that very. strange walkabout with William and. Catherine and uh Megan was receiving a. bouquet of flowers from a regular. British citizen and a male handler came. around to take them and she turned and. she snapped at that guy. She was like, "You're doing it wrong." It's like. that's it. It's like, "Oh, you're trying. to help me at like $8 an hour. You're.

doing it wrong." Yeah. >> It's also extremely delusional to think. that this is going to be a victory lap. Your husband's not there. >> He has begun leaking to the press or at. least it seems his camp has that he's. been wanting her to settle. She just. won't listen. Hey, he's just an innocent. bystander here, >> which you know he's not. Uh, and um then. she gets to the top of the staircase and. is interviewed by Laa Anthony for Vogue.

and she says, "You know, I just I have. this little handbag with me and my four. children.". >> Let's watch that. That's the latest. sound. Watch. >> This is a Judith Lever bag and we were. trying to find a piece of um famous. iconic art to put on and make it look. like it was in a frame. And then I said, "Would you actually, if you're going to. make it custom, would you do my kids. art?" So my kids each painted a. painting, a watercolor painting. So each. of my four kids did this. >> That is so special. >> Isn't that special? So I have them with.

me because I'm shy, too. So I just like. to like. >> got the kids with me. >> I have my kids with me. They're like I. probably could have fit them under my. dress. It's like my little comfort. So. yeah. >> Well, I hope you have the best time. tonight. >> Thank you so much. You, too. >> Oh my god, what a farce. The last refuge of the scoundrel hiding. behind your children. Not for nothing. I. mean again this is so this is so let. them meat cake. Like a Judith Liber bag. retails for about 5K. Like that clutch. is like 5K. So and then so she's so.

wealthy she can deface it with her. children's water. They're not just. painting Megan with acrylics. We're. doing watercolors. We've got little. Monaes running around. And uh it also reminds me, remember when. Angie and Brad finally got married, which was like literally they were like. on the way to splitting up, but it was. like, let's see if marriage will help. this. >> Yeah, sure. It always does. That and. having a kid. >> Exactly. And then they released the. photos to people and Angie's um wedding. dress had been defaced with the scrawls. of her children. Do you remember that?

>> Well, we have it. How did Debbie. Debbiey's way ahead of us? She's got it. Let's see. She knew it. Okay, keep. going. So you can see it's like it's th. those are the the scrawlings of like the. child army on her. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. >> Oh my gosh. I don't think I've ever seen. that before. children. >> Mhm. >> Okay. >> So, you know, it's been done before. Like there's nothing original. And so. Blake would also have us believe she's. just very shy. >> That was crazy. >> in this tool confection that has taken.

up the entire. MetGala steps. I mean, I referred to it. as like her territorially pissing all. over the mech. This is mine now. >> Only me. >> is I am the victor. To the victor go the. spoils, you know, at this horrible. event. This this I called it like the. convention for the worst people in the. world. >> It was it was truly like I mean we can. go down the list and and Will. >> Um but but the. >> that acting at the top of the staircase. of I'm shy and also the over-the-top.

saccharine sweet voice with the. reporter. M. >> it's an obvious compens comp. compensation for the nastiness toward. Kirsty from Norway who she ripped on her. non-existent baby bump and the nerve of. her having to ask about fashion which is. something Blake talks about incessantly. and is obsessed with. I mean every time. we see her she's got another Birkin bag. Like this woman's obsessed with her. handbags and her rich spending on her. wardrobe. But god forbid you actually.

just loosen the mood a little, lighten. it by asking her about it. you'll get. shamed like this poor Kirsty did. Um, and so that acting at the top of the. staircase was pathetic. It was stomach. turning to watch her. I'm I'm shy. Like. the Let's go back to the text exchange. between Is it in here? Hold on a second. Between her and Taylor Swift after like. during the whole heat of that. controversy, right, where she was. ripping on poor Justin Baldon. You know,

it's not in the main packet. >> Oh, you're reading my mind with this. That's exactly where I where I went to. >> She's so nasty. Hold on a second. I got. to get it cuz like if when you read the. actual text exchange. Yeah. Here it is. It was in both of these, I guess. Oh, no. It You know, you know where I was. why I'm not pulling it up in my packet. It is in my packet because it was from. the Moren Callahan piece, which is so. good. >> Oh, thank you. >> Yeah. On the Daily Mail. I love your. writing and I love your show, as you. know. And you, too. I know. >> Um, yes. You pointed out in your latest. piece on the Daily Mail, which everybody.

should read. It's called Blake Lively is. truly the worst of the worst in. Hollywood. Entitled, delusional, utterly. loome, and here's proof. Okay. You point. out that she writes when she had her. secret meeting up in their uh penthouse, hers, and Ryan Reynolds with poor Justin. Baldon while they tried to steal his. movie from him and steal the. screenwriting from him. Um that she. texted Taylor Swift before the meeting. asking Swift to say that Swift was. freaking out over a script rewrite that. Blake Lively had done. And then she.

writes to Swift, "Having the greatest. living storyteller unknowingly echo to. him how much you love what we're doing, giving him credit as if he wrote them. with me, will go such a long way.". Swift, "I'll do anything for you," you. write. After the meeting, Lively texted. Swift. "You were so epically heroic. today. This clown falling for all of it, but also resisting it. You are the. world's absolute greatest friend ever. I.

won the lottery. Swift, I won the. lottery. You are the coolest person in. the world and you like me. Moren. summation again. These people are awful. It is. It is awful. The setup, the the. self-ceelebration, the disgusting narcissism of both of. them, right? >> And it didn't end well for Blake Lively. even in that relationship either. >> No, that relationship is done. Um, I. have read, I think, very reliable.

reporting that Blake thinks that she can. salvage this relationship with Taylor. and that she can potentially get an. invite to that wedding, which is taking. place in New York City, which is where. Blake and Ryan have their four or 5.7. million Tribeca Loft. So, if she. >> plus a massive estate e it's either in. Bedford or Northern Connecticut. >> Yeah, exactly. I mean, they have so much. money and Taylor Swift, a self-made. billionaire. And this is how they're. talking to each other. How they're how. how they're throwing their weight. around, but also like the disgusting.

kind of like over-the-top effusiveness. about how amazing each of them are to. each other. It's. >> looks like that. >> They're so I just feel like they're so. arrested. Like it feels very junior. high, you know? It's very it's it's it's. just it's it make it's like it's. uncomfortable for me. >> You point this out. I actually didn't. know that. You you report you say. reports are that Lively, who named Swift. godmother to three of her four children. with Reynolds, is not even on the guest.

list for Swift's summer wedding in New. York. So, she's not even going to make. the guest list. And she's named Taylor, godmother to three of her four children. I'm sorry, but that's weird. >> I agree. >> All three. That's star That's. what that is. >> Uhhuh. >> Right. like I'm going to get the most. famous woman I know and I'm going to. make her be tied to my family forever. >> by giving her this honored role. I mean, most people go with family for those. things. >> I mean, you might go with somebody who. you're really close with for God's. parent.

>> Um, but three out of the four cuz you. have no other friends other than this. friend with whom you obviously just have. a surface level relationship because it. ended over these texts in the Baldon. case, right? Right. I mean, if you're. really really friends with somebody, you're there for with them for the. really difficult stuff and you take. culpability for your But. Taylor can't do that because it's a ding. to her image, you know? I mean, I I. don't know how they got her out of being. deposed. >> Do you remember that? >> I know how.

>> How? >> Um because she didn't want anything to. do with this case, >> right? >> Quite clearly. And I think they. basically struck a deal where they said, "Give us the texts and give us like what. we can and we'll leave you alone.". >> Oh. And um this is, you know, allegedly. reportedly Moren. Uh but yeah, they they. didn't want to harass Taylor, but they. did want to see those text messages and. they got them. >> And I think she was very unhappy with. the way that Blake was writing about her. and talking about her and actually. threatening that she might be a part of.

this lawsuit. Like I I I think she was. irritated that her name was thrown. around so loosely by her dear dear. friend and mother of her godchildren. Yeah. >> Blake Lively. You know what this reminds. me of too when you were saying how star. it is to name Taylor godmother to. three of the four children. Um Megan. Markle uh naming Tyler Perry godfather. to to Archie. Right. >> They don't even know him. >> They don't even know him. >> They don't know him. He was like a fan.

who felt bad for her cuz he obviously. just took her side probably because of. the race issue. >> and gave her a place to stay when they. fled the horrors of. >> Buckingham Palace to to Monteceto. and she made him the godfather to her. child. What the hell? Like they didn't. even know him. >> And to your point, they didn't know him. and now he's facing uh major lawsuits. from men who are accusing him of sexual.

harassment and or worse. So know who you. are naming the godfather of your. children. >> The kind of thing you would know if you. actually um knew the person as opposed. to just he's rich and he's famous and I. want my very famous son to be you know. connected to this famous man. Here he. was uh right around the time Tyler Perry. on being named the godfather sat 10. This is from I think her name. We'll. >> call him. we'll chat. We'll talk about. silly things. And they were pretty.

serious on the phone. I go, "Okay, what's going on?" And they said, "Well, we'd like for you to be Lily's. godfather." I go, "Well, I take a minute to take that in." And. >> right, cuz we don't know each other. >> I'd be honored. I'd absolutely be. honored. And I got off the phone, took. it all, and then I called him back. I. go, "Uh, hold on a second. Does this mean we got to go over there. and do all of that in the in the church. with them and figure all that out? Cuz I. don't want to do that. Maybe we can do a.

little private ceremony here and let. that be that. And and if you have to do. it there, then it's okay. >> He knew. He knew what they were doing. It's overly familiar. It's an. inappropriate boundary crossing. He's. also though saying there I think he's. completely out of line saying do does. this mean if if you want me to be the. godfather do I have to go over there to. England. >> to the royals to the palace to the. church of England with them which is.

very disrespectful. It's a. depersonalization. of the royals. He's basically saying I'm. all in with Megan's version of events. which is that they're horribly racist. And not only that, Megan and Harry. rubber stamped him saying this in the. Netflix doc. >> Oh yeah. Well, they they themselves in. their Netflix doc said the whole country. that voted for Brexit was racist. I mean. that that is what they say in that piece. that their countrymen are racist if they. wanted Brexit. Um they wanted that for. England to leave the UK. So why wouldn't.

they put him on display? So Blake Lively. now is back threatening. No sooner did. she declare victory in this lawsuit, which is just such a blatant lie. Trust. me. I mean, like I I of course am dear. friends with Brian, but uh Justin's. lawyer. But separate and apart from that. friendship, as a lawyer, I'm much more. interested in getting things right than. I am in being loyal to my friends when I. do my commentary on this show. And there. is no question that this is a resounding. victory for team Baldoni. She was suing.

him for $400 million. Moren. And to make. a point for all women, >> she didn't neither. >> She emerged as the villain and didn't. get one red scent. And even now, she's. going to push for her legal fees. At. best, she gets made whole on her legal. expenses, but not on any damages caused. by sexual harassment or retaliation or. all the terrible damages she claims she. lost on her brands like her liquor. company because she was made a villain.

by herself. Mhm. >> Uh so you tell me whether she was in any. way a a victor here. >> I I don't I don't I would you would have. to be in that mind to try to understand. it. I think it's probably an outgrowth. of what I perceive to be just my opinion. malignant narcissism. They are never. wrong. If you are a malignant. narcissist, you are never wrong. It's. everybody else's fault. Uh people just. don't understand. And you know, as you. and I were talking about, I think the. last time I was here with you, my main.

problem with this is the incalculable. damage that Blake Lively has done to. every other woman, especially in her. Hollywood sphere, who wants to come. forward with legitimate claims of sexual. harassment or worse. Now, it's going to. be much harder to be believed. And it's. no accident that Justin Baldon and his. wife who live in Nashville where. paparazzi are not just roaming the. streets were photographed holding hands.

smiling in multiple public locations. That is Justin I believe telling us the. public that he regards himself he and. his wife regard themselves as the true. victors. And I think that's the right. that's the right answer here. There is. not a defendant on earth being sued for. $400 million given the chance to walk. away with a settlement agreement paying. nothing who would not consider himself. the victor. Not a person on earth. She. reportedly is the one who was desperate. to settle. Brian Freriedman actually.

gave an interview uh to TMZ saying that. she was panicked because she didn't want. to have to be cross-examined. Because. when you are on the stand, Moren, it's. not like being at the top of the Met. Gala stairs where you can say whatever. the you want to, true or not, you. have taken an oath to tell the truth and. you are subjected to potential perjury. charges if you don't. So, it's a very. different situation when you are under. the withering cross-examination of an.

experienced and very clever trial. attorney like Brian Freriedman on the. stand in front of a jury than it is like. when you're across from Kajeri from. Norway, right? And she knew the stakes. were going to be different. Brian had. pointed out that um hold on a second. because I made a note about this um that. she'd been caught lying like repeatedly. in the case. There were a couple of. times where she did, and one of the most. recent ones was she denied, I think, at.

her deposition, >> that she ever asked anyone to destroy. the dailies, >> like the, you know, when you film a. movie, there are dailies that they look. at every day. What did we shoot today? What's the video look like? And she said. under oath at her deposition, she never. asked anyone to destroy raw footage. reading here from TMZ uh from It Ends. With Us. But an email from an executive. at Sony shows that was a lie. She lied. about that. Um during her deposition,

which was July of last year, she was. questioned whether she had asked anybody. from Sony to destroy the dailies. She. said no. She said no. I never asked. anyone to destroy dailies. No. When. asked if she ever requested anyone to. instruct Sony on her behalf, she also. replied no. that she did not do that. However, the transcript of a message. that was entered into evidence in the. case from Sony executive an Geianetti to. then president of Sony Pictures Motion. Picture Group Josh Greenstein from.

September 2024 about a month after the. film's release suggests otherwise. Gianetti writes, "Call me when you can, not urgent, but Blake asking us to. destroy some of the dailies." She adds. that she's never heard of a star doing. this when no nudity was involved. It. would make sense celebs wouldn't want. clips of their private areas just. floating around out there, but she says. she wants to talk to Greenstein about. what they will and will not do. And. wrote she was going to ask a woman named.

Bridget to contact the vendors they were. working with to delete the dailies. It. is unclear if she went through with that. plan. So, here she is caught in just one. example, red-handed, obviously lying. under oath. Can you imagine the number. of inconsistencies they would have her. on if she took that stand and this kind. of thing played out in front of a jury? Didn't she also lie? It's my. recollection before all the discovery. when the Taylor bruhaha was happening.

Will Taylor be dragged into this? Um, I. believe she had said there was no such. planned meeting at the Tribeca Loft with. Justin invited up so that Blake and Ryan. could bully him and threaten him. Oh, and then, oh wait, Taylor actually was. there, but you know what happened? She. was just walking by. She just happened. to be in the neighborhood and Blake. said, "Hey, why don't you just come on. up?" And Taylor had no idea what was. going on and sat there passively on a.

sofa cuz she's such a shrinking violet. >> Yeah. And that's Taylor's life. You. know, she's just meandering about. looking for plans. >> She's got nothing but free time. Nothing. but free time. You know, it's and and. then we find out that this was a. coordinated attack that this was. pre-planned and that when it was over, they were congratulating and high-fiving. each other verbally about humiliating. this guy and lying to him and him buying. it, you know, and it's just it's all so. disgusting. But I just hope that in all. of this, the person who I refer to on.

the nerve always as psycho arsonist Ryan. Reynolds is not lost here. >> Yes. Explain why you call him that. >> When Ryan Reynolds was a teenage boy, he. burned down his elementary school in. Canada to the ground. This was an arson. fire. He set it in the middle of the. night. This school was like over a. hundred years old. It went up like that. He uh has given varying it's it he's a. psychopath. I believe he's given varying. accounts of this story. In one, he just. meant to set fire to like a wing of it.

>> In another Megan, >> okay, >> there's another version of this story in. which he just was he set fire to a tree? >> I could I I when I hear that like I. could cry like who would set fire to a. tree? >> I know. >> To a living thing, you know? Oh, but it. was just a tree and then what it went up. and then he. >> who knew? So we have if if anybody out. there doubts this, we on the at the. nerve have dug up the contemporaneous. reporting with with a front page from.

the Canadian province of the school. ablaze. Um it was it was leveled. All of. the students had to go take classes for. months and months and months at like. various community centers. >> He admits that he did this. >> 10 years later about he gives another. interview. He's not a huge star yet, but. he's coming up and he's asked about this. and we we have the reporting as well. We. have shown the physical paper. He says, "Yeah, you know, I did that. I did do. that. You know, I just I just I got away.

with it. I got away with it and I just. hope some poor schmuck isn't sitting in. jail for what I did.". >> Oh my god. >> Mhm. >> That is a psycho arsonist. >> Mhm. to say nothing of. Then he and his. um director or co-director on uh. Deadpool, I think the most recent. Deadpool, his and Blake's daughter, it has a has a. role in the movie and she's behind those. masks. So, it's unclear why he insisted. it had to be the daughter. Um, and the.

line of dialogue was um, so it was. basically like, "Hey Deadpool, when I. want your opinion, I'll smack that dick. out of your mouth or I'll smack my dick. out of your mouth." And, um, he, this is. on the commentary for the DVD, the the. bonus content. Brian and this guy Shawn, I believe it's Shawn Levy, if I'm. correct, they're laughing about it and. they're laughing at how his then. eight-year-old daughter kept saying, "Daddy, I don't want to do this. I don't.

want to say this dialogue. I don't want. to." And they're laughing and he's like, "Yeah, so we made her do it between like. 50 and 500 times." Like, he's a piece of. this guy. He's a piece of. >> Marine, we've talked about this. There. is it's very rare that there's a huge. delta between the character of the. husband and the character of the wife. Yeah. >> It's very rare. I mean that's why I. really believe in that saying, "Show me. who you love and I'll show you who you. are.". >> Exactly. Show me who your friends are.

and I'll show you who you are. Yeah. >> So, it's not surprising to me. The the. odds of him being this great, terrific, kind-hearted, good man and her being. this insane, malignant narcissist are. extremely ex extremely rare. they'd be. divorced already. >> I agree completely. And if they do get. divorced, trust me, it will be because. Ryan is trying to salvage his career. Yeah. Paramount has already dropped. three feature films that he was to. either star in or executive produce or. direct. Um, and this again, this takes.

us right back to Harry and Megan. You. know, the poor Harry narrative. Nuh-uh. I think they are very well matched. I. think they are very well suited in their. rage and resentment and narcissism and. their juvenile uh way of looking at the. world emotionally, psychologically, intellectually. Give me, give me, give. me. >> I I I think they're very well matched. >> Did you see that King Charles removed. their wedding photo from his like side. table? His favorite side table, I guess,

in one of the palaces. a a a. photographer who was allowed in uh got a. quick glimpse of it and took the shot of. the I don't do we have it um uh to show. the audience but they took the shot of. the table and you had seen uh this is at. High Grove. Here's the old one. You see. that on the right is their big wedding. photo. >> and then uh yeah this is at his gloer. How do you say that? >> I think it's glosser glouester home. I.

don't Why are there so many letters if. you pronounce it Gloucester? G L O U C E S T E R S H I R E. That's a. lot. I don't know why our friends in the. in Great Britain do that. Anyway, High. Grove is the name of the home. And that. was her wedding photo. Um, which was. snapped by a different photographer who. had been there. And now look at it. This. is the updated one. It's gone. Royal. photographer Chris Jackson was recently. led in there and uh posted the pics on. his Instagram story. He has removed the.

wedding photo of Ms. Mark, you know, that's driving her insane that the king. no longer wants to look at her whiny. face while he relaxes in his home. Moren, >> I just wish he would remove the titles. >> I just wish he would remove the titles. that that tour of Australia. >> Oh, >> you know, and then she um they set up. clearly, I believe. I think Megan has. many friends over at People magazine.

They were on the cover of People, which. uh usually hits news stands on. Wednesdays. Um and that was smack in the. middle of Charles and Camila's state. visit. >> here. >> There it's always something, you know, it's just I just wish they would just. sever it. Just it's just sever that tie. What did you make of the fact that she. clearly was not invited to the Met Gala. even though Lauren Sanchez Bezos was. co-chair whose bffs with all the. Kardashians. >> who you know Megan likes to pretend are.

her friends even though it was their. party Chris Jenner's 70th where she. threw her little hissy fit over being. photographed without having signed a. release. And when you and I talked about. how she was clearly just upset that her. husband was caught learing at Kris. Jenner's bust. Um in any event, I did. think it was interesting that they. clearly didn't invite her cuz she'll. show up to anything. I mean, literally. anything. >> Oh, she was dying for the invite. The. reportage was that she was convinced as. as um recently as days before that the.

invite was dropping in her email inbox. any minute now. >> Oh god. >> Any minute now. And so imagine her I I. like to think of Megan watching our. Nerve Met Gala live stream. >> I Yes, it was excellent. >> Thank you. We had so much fun doing it. And uh you know watching again a. convention for the worst people in the. world. Tina Fay said that one year. She. said after having gone that it was like. imagine yourself in the center of a room. full of everyone you would like to punch. in the face. That that's what it feels.

like in there. >> Yes. and um you know all of these. terrible people. Blake Lively, she's one. of the absolute worst in my opinion. Megan is too radioactive for that crowd. >> Katie Perry got an invite. Notwithstanding the fact that she's. currently accused of sexually assaulting. somebody and under criminal. investigation. Come on in. But Megan. Markle, it's a no. >> Lena Dunham, dog dumper, falsely accused. a man of rape in her memoir. wrote about.

molesting her little sister in her. memoir. Come on in, Lena. Come on in, Jay-Z. Uh, hasn't said a word against. his old pal and business partner, Shawn. Combmes of many, many, many years. Jay, come on in. And you know what else? Bring in your 14-year-old daughter who. won't take off her sunglasses, even. though you have to be 18 to get in. You. talked on our show about the one of the. events you went to, one of the Met. Gallas where you walked into the room. and saw Shawn Combmes dry humping a.

Kardashian. >> Yes, it was a wall of Kardashians and. influencer models and yeah, he was. definitely humping one of them and I saw. it with my own eyes and nobody was using. the bathroom. Just not for nothing but. nobody was using it. They were all. smoking cigarettes in the the Met. bathroom which is disgusting and dry. humping one another. Mhm. >> And then Doug walked out of the men's. room where he's he had just seen two men. who shall go nameless for purposes of. this story. Uh but big uh Silicon Valley.

types uh who were snorting cocaine off. of the. >> Oh, that doesn't surprise me at all. So. very nice, very classy crowd. >> at the. >> Oh, and this year on top of that, agitators had um had put uh Poland. Spring bottles filled with urine all. over like next to priceless works of art. in protest of Jeff Bezos because as you. know, Amazon workers have very timed. bathroom breaks and a finite amount of. them per day. And even Amazon drivers,

their time is tracked so that they don't. get bathroom breaks. they are they have. to resort to using plastic bottles. >> It's ridiculous. >> So, that was a big thing, too. And. again, Megan is still not wanted there, you know? It's like she's still too. toxic even for them. Here, uh, so we. mentioned Beyonce and Blue Ivy, the. 14-year-old who she took with her to the. Met Gala. Here they are as they're. arriving and the Vogue, because of. course this is Anna Wintor's Vogue, uh, announcers fawning over them. Watch. this. of regal royalty right there.

>> The feathers, the diamonds, the. headpiece, the poised beautiful face. Oh, Beyonce, the queen has arrived. Wow. Do you see. blue behind her? >> Wow. Mommy daughter duo. >> No, it's very, very cute. Look how long their hair is. >> It looks amazing. I love that blue is.

like in this I own everything mode also. >> together. This is warming my mother my like mommy. heart. It's not warming mine. I love that blue. is in her like I own everything. Okay, her parents are Beyonce and Jay-Z. She. literally does own everything and. therefore it's not a virtue for her to. be telegraphing with her body language.

that she's king of the world. >> She was born into it. In fact, what. would be laudable would be some humility. and possibly something approaching a. demure projection. But she's not capable. of that because all they've done for her. since she was born, Moren, is try to. make her an independent clicks generator. from the day she was born. my team. reminding me that her dad Jay-Z released. a song Glory which earned her a Guinness.

World Record for being the youngest. person to have an entry on a Billboard. chart. Uh time dubbed her the most. famous baby in the world. Carter made. her feature film debut in 2024 in Mufasa. the Lion King as a voice actress. Uh. she's also one of Beyonce's backup. dancers. We have some video of that. Hold on. Let's watch it. Here she is. She's walking out. You. would be forgiven if you thought she was.

27 years old. >> Mhm. >> I mean, it's all an attempt at sex. appeal, super tight pants, super tight. top, you know, the over-the-top. gestures. It's a lot what they're doing. to their daughter Moren. And it's it's. not the daughter's fault. It's their. fault. You know, this is so disturbing on so. many levels. There's no way this kid is. having like active real schooling. They. are building this monster we're all. going to be suffering many years to.

come. But it does remind me of um Willow. Smith, daughter of Jada and Will Smith. Yep. >> And Will and Jada were pushing her for a. long time. She had that she had like a a. hit called uh it was like I whip my hair. back and forth. I forget what it was. called. And then they wanted her to. audition for something like what Blue. Ivy had done, but not voice work, like. screen work. And Willow said to them, "Listen, how about I just be 12?". >> Wow. >> And I love that. I love that because it.

does show that even at that age, there. is a self-awareness. And. >> did she later come out and declare. herself one of the weird sexual like. pansex? She did. >> Listen, you grow up in that house. If. you get out alive, kid, like good for. you. It's a win. It's a win. Also, like. how is uh how was Blue Ivy the most. famous baby in the world? I thought I. mean I guess in that year or that month. you could say so. >> Let me tell you something. Whether she. was or she wasn't Jay-Z,

>> he's not I mean honestly, is he really. talented? Like. >> I do think he is. >> He's got New York State of Mind. That's. a great one. I can't name another song. by Jay-Z, but of course I'm a little out. of it. >> It's okay. I I'm I'm a fan. >> What I think he's great at is marketing. Beyonce. Her songs aren't even that. good. Sorry, I don't like them. Like one. or two here or there, they're fine. She's not like the premier artist of our. time, but you would think she was, but. watching her at that look, she came in. like she actually was a queen. Oh, yeah. >> She's got way more Grammys than like the.

Beatles. Somebody just did the the list. recently and she was like triple what. our most talented artists are when it. comes to award-winning. >> It's him. He he he runs a marketing. machine. He first unleashed it on. Beyonce to make her Queen Bay. Okay. Whatever. And now they're doing it to. their own child and this Met Gala. appearance was part of it. Yeah. And. again, like just what you and I were. just talking about in terms of what. actually goes on inside that thing. Who.

in their right minds thinks that that's. some place for a 14-year-old to be? And. also for the adults in that room who. paid anywhere between 100 and $350,000. to be there, they don't want a kid there. either. It's an adult party where adult. things are supposed to be happening. True. You don't want to censor yourself. or have to watch yourself, especially at. that price tag because Jay-Z and Beyonce. had to bring their little monster that. they're building. >> And they won't. So, she'll just go to. the bathroom and see dry humping and. people snorting coke cuz it's such a.

classy event. See, can't you see the. class right in front of you? >> Um, yeah. So, she they weren't the only. ones who did this. Nicole Kidman, >> she brought her kid. Sunday Rose, is. that her name? Okay, that's her name. Yet another Nepo situation. Sunday Rose. Kidman Urban, 17 years old. She went as well with her. mom who was a co-chair. And honestly, it's like save some room for your child. to grow into these events, you know,

like can't what if the what what does. Sunday Rose have to look forward to now? What if Sunday Rose becomes a star in. her own right and would like to get to. the Met Gala via an independent. invitation? Well, it's too late. Mom. Nicole has already dragged her. everywhere on Mom Nicole's arm. I don't. know. I think like the inappropriate. showing of your child at an event where. you know she's going to be on camera in. front of millions and have her fashion. critiqued and have her body critiqued. and have her face and her hair and.

makeup critiqued is not such a great. thing for a 14 or a 17year-old girl. >> Well, Nicole has been using her. considerable star power to leverage a. high fashion modeling career for Sunday. Rose. >> Oh Lord, >> who really wants this? She has walked uh. for major designers. I think she walked. in Paris most recently. Um she she got. the cover of L Australia. and I am sorry but this girl is not a. model. She's not and if you love fashion.

and you love you know curated highly. stylized images like that is that is a. cover that belongs to somebody else. I'm. sorry. This girl is not a model and. she's being shoved in our faces and. Nicole is and I I wonder too how much of. the divorce has to do with this of like. overcompensation, you know? Oh, is this what you want? Like I'll get it for you, you know? >> Right. Maybe maybe just spend more time. with her. >> instead of doing every like Hulu, Amazon, Netflix project that like gets.

thrown across your desk. >> Literally with Nicole Kidman, she's like. yes to everything now. >> Yes. Maybe spend more time with her, not. at the Met Gala, at home, across the. dinner table from one another, actually. talking about life. Maybe that. Try. that. Same for Amy Griffin, by the way, who was also there. The one who clearly, we've talked about her, clearly, very. clearly stole another woman's sexual. assault memories and tried to pawn them. off as her own recovered memories after.

using MDNA. um and got a best-selling book, The. Tell, out of it, which we now believe. were lies. And not only that, they made. her one of the Time 100, which is such a. joke. For what? For what? Her recovered. memories, which as it turns out, per the. New York Times, appear to have been. stolen from a girl from the wrong side. of the tracks. And now she shows up to. at the Met Gala, of course, which is. just, you know, her money could buy her. entrance there in a year. But again, her husband's money. >> Her husband's money. Uh there there's.

nothing. Again, we have people at this. mech gala between Amy Griffin and Lena. Dunham. Two people who have leveraged. false accusations, it seems, against men. in print and then propped up by the. mainstream media industrial complex. Amy. Griffin has been propped up by Oprah. Winfrey, by Gwyneth Paltro, by Reese. Witherspoon, by the Today Show, by No. She's She's swanning around like she. doesn't have a care in the world. She's.

a psychopath. you. This guy that she's. accused is an actual man living in a. town where everybody knows who he is. He. He's a synonymous in the book. >> Uh but everybody in town knows who he. is. Mr. Mason, she doesn't give a. She doesn't care that she took what. should be considered most sacred, another woman's. recover, sorry, not recovered, another. woman's sexual assault as a minor child.

>> by the hands of another teacher. By the. way, it should be clear, not Mr. Mason. >> Correct. stole that, appropriated it for herself, and then shrouded it all in uh recovered. memories brought upon by a guided MDMA. trip so that if she's ever accused of. making this up, she has the convenient. excuse, well, I was high out of my mind. >> Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't realize. But honestly, if you read that New York. Times article, which is very telling, it's just the old phrase. Um, it talks.

about how she went, this is a woman, Amy. Griffin, who's married to the richest. man in New York and they have billions. And she wrote this book, Gatell, a. couple years ago, claiming it all came. back to her, how she was raped. repeatedly by a teacher, Mr. Mason, in. Amarillo, Texas, where she grew up. One. of the richest girls in town, one of the. most privileged with an intact family. Those are not the girls this happens to. Sadly, they always pick on the weak. girls from families that are broken up. because they know that they don't really. have a solid home life to go home and. complain about it to. But in any event,

that she claimed it happened to her. And. uh then the New York Times started doing. a deep dive on her after the nerve. raised questions about whether any of. this was true. And uh not only did they. seem to echo your concerns, Moren, but. they actually found the girl on the. wrong side of the tracks who's now an. adult, who then later came out and said, "Not only are these my memories, but she. met with me like recently, right before. she published the book, like a two-year.

period before." And she said, "Hey, let's both sign postcards to each other. Let's grab a postcard from this little. cafe where we're having our coffee, and. I'll put my address on the one that you. send, and you do the same for me." And. so I sent her one, you know, per her. request, which Amy Griffin then uses in. the book as evidence. She allegedly. believes that like another me too victim. reached out to her. It's all such a web. Anyway, this is a long way of saying she.

was there. She's at the Met Gala, >> so she can come. And none of those. people, not Oprah, not the Today Show, none of them, Gwennneth has done any. cleanup on this story, even after the. New York Times gave her the double. barrel treatment. First the original. takedown piece and then the second one. pointing out that fact about they found. the woman and the postcard and all that, nothing. They're like, "Come right in.". And none of these so-called reporters. has even atoned for putting her on. question free. It makes you wonder just.

how much money Amy Griffin has given to. Gwyneth, you know, in any round of. funding for Goop. Has she contributed to. Oprah's media empire in any way? I mean, it really makes you wonder again. And. Oprah especially who has said repeatedly. that she is a survivor of childhood. sexual assault. Yeah. >> This flies with her. This is okay. >> Yes. Right. Exactly. Like then then show. it. Why don't you prove it? Um Okay. Any.

other thoughts on the Met Gala? How. about Lauren Sanchez Bezos? >> Um, she looked bummed out to me and I I. think two things were potentially going. on. Jeff did not walk the red carpet. with her or the green carpet because the. reporting was he was surprised there was. a backlash as if Blue Origin didn't tip. him off last year that those of us who. are still Earthbound, well, not you and. me. >> We've we don't brag. We've we've been if. you know you know. >> you know but um so that that there was.

that and then she it it looked like Anna. Wintor did get her hands on her because. you know in the hours before the mech. gala Anna always hosts a a press. conference to say there's a mecha in a. few hours as if we don't know and Lauren. was looking very somber in this like. vintage John Galliano. She was looking. somber. >> and it because the neckline was up to. here and it looked like her. undergarments were like minimizing so. she can't fully express herself. You. know, her bodaciousness can't just reach. 11 and I think she felt like she was.

hemmed in and like she was having to. hide her light under a bushel. Well, did. you happen to see I think it was the the. Times, right? Wasn't it Steve that did. the long piece on her which we read in. great detail live on the show. Um, and. the last segment of that interview. covers her absurd outfit at the. inauguration. Remember, she showed her boobs. She was. right behind President Trump. They moved. that inauguration indoors because it was.

sub-zero temperatures or close to. And. she had on the booier, the white lace. booier with her enormous breasts. spilling out the top and a very low cut. white blazer. And she actually tried to. spin it to the times that she was really. proud of her outfit as like demure and. appropriate, you know, but then it got. moved inside and oh, she was just. shocked shocked that her outfit became a.

story, you know, and she said, "Got it. Don't wear lace to the inauguration.". No, not it. You could wear lace. Don't. show your tits. It's a little known. rule. Maybe only we reporters get it. You're not supposed to show your boobs. at an inauguration. We saw everything. but Areola. And now she wants to play it. off like whoopsie. It was just a little. lace that happened to peek out because I.

was unexpectedly caught going inside. instead of outside on the inauguration. day, which by the way, we all knew the. day before that it had been moved. inside. My favorite shot from that entire thing. was Mark Zuckerberg standing next to her. going like. they're all children, you know, again, as you just said, oh, like reporters. would know Lauren Sanchez began her. career as a reporter. True. >> And then she was a helicopter pilot for. like a Los Angeles, like a major. affiliate out there. She was married to.

one of the most powerful talent agents. in Hollywood, Patrick Whitell, who has. represented the likes of Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, I believe. You know, the. idea that she's this fawn in the woods. and then she begins an extrammarital. affair with Jeff Bezos and allegedly. reportedly had it leaked to the Inquirer. because Jeff wasn't moving fast enough. with the divorce. You know, she's a fawn. in the woods. She had no idea. You're a. woman. I'm a woman. We know how it feels. when we get dressed and how things fall. on the body.

>> I know when my boobs are out, >> you know. >> Yeah, I know when my boobs are out. >> I don't really have any, but you know. what I mean. I mean, it's like, you. know, you're very sensitive about that. stuff. And so, just just admit it. Just. be like, at the inauguration, you're. right behind the president. >> I'm an exhibitionist. I like attention. I did not get enough hugs as a child. Give me more attention. >> Right. And honestly, it's all tied. together with what she's doing to her. face. You know, it's like. >> a lot of people have plastic surgery. We. were just talking about Jane Fonda the.

other day because Ted Turner died. >> Their relationship was fascinating. I'd. love to spend a minute on that. But. >> um I I'm of course I infamously asked. her about her plastic surgery and she. she took issue with it which she talked. about many many times. But her she's had. great plastic surgery. She looks. amazing. You know she's 88 now. She. looks spectacular thanks to the many. faceless but whatever she's doing it's. working for her. Um I don't think though. that Jane Fonda I think Jane Fonda is. vain which there that's fine. I'm vain. too. Um but she looks great. Lauren.

Sanchez is vain and it's gone another. way. She's more to me somebody who's. obsessed. Here she is side by side. Is. this before and after? Yeah. Well, no. This she's already had some work here on. the left. Try to find one of the younger. pictures of her. Like really younger. because she was really cute when she was. younger. She very pretty. No, no, no. We'll keep looking. Um, but look how. prodded she is and look how much filler. is in the face now. >> She's one of those people who's become. like an addict, I I know. It's sad. It's.

sad to see. She's carved herself up. She. She kind of looks humanoid, not human. >> Yes. >> We're Do Do you remember the cat lady? >> Yes. >> Joselyn Waldenstein. >> She's giving cat lady vibes. >> It's sad. I hate to see it because. you're right. She was very pretty when. she was younger and and before she sort. of got on this billionaire track. I just. think the billionaire track is weird for. a woman to choose. >> It actually has the opposite effect on. every woman. Instead of women becoming. more beautiful cuz now they've got.

access to billions. They become very. weird looking. She's not the only one. >> You know, I think of like Elon Musk. who's impregnated like at least 500. women. You know, it's like it's just all. weird. >> Is it 500? >> I think it's got to be. Listen, by the. time his obituary is written, >> Yeah. >> be like thousands. I mean they like if. you don't know who your dad is or if you. think it might be Elon Musk, you should. definitely have like tests before you. have sex with a stranger who's your age. >> Oh my god, you're so right. Especially.

you're going to be running in this sort. of millu. You know, it's a little scary. >> It is a little frightening. Yeah. But um. so anyway, no, I I look at her and it is. it is to weep. I mean, I think you know. Chris Jenner has had better work. >> She looks good. >> She does look good. Now, she also felt. it was necessary to address us all. because uh she does not like the reports. that her facelift has been slipping. >> Didn't she just have it? How could it be. slipping already? >> Well, she's also on OMIC, Megan. >> Oh, >> so, you know, we may have some.

contraindications. >> There's a lot going on. >> It's a lot. >> All right. Um there's much more to. discuss. I do want to pick up that Jane. Fonda thing because it was a fascinating. interview that uh in the wake of Ted. Turner's death about their relationship. and much much more. Stand by. Moren's. with us for the whole show. Hey, thanks for watching today's full. episode. If you're new here, throw us a. subscribe. See what you think. Stay in. touch. There's plenty more goodness. where this one came from. As always, we. really do value your feedback, so email. me, too. Meganme.

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people who were there. >> Mhm. >> Eileen Goo, that nightmare from the. Olympics who was all about herself. >> I thought you liked her. >> No, I hate her. >> Really? The girl with the the zebra. striped hair? >> No, that that was Alyssa Lou. >> Oh, sorry. >> Was the nasty skier. Can we pull over. John Casio's favorite soundbite of of. Eileen Goo? Uh, the budded soundbite. If. we can find what a terrible person she. is, we'll get that. But in the meantime, take I mean, her dress was I'll say. this. It was interesting. It was a. conversation piece and I'm not sure it.

was art, but watch this saut. >> Literally wearing art. Today I'm wearing. Iris Herpin. It is so special. This look. is all about bubbles obviously, but it's. about whimsy and it's about a play on. time and reality and permanence. So, there are 15,000 bubbles on me. They are. made of glass, which is incredible. 25,550 hours of work. Insane. It's about time and permanence. Somebody.

gave her that line, obviously. And um. this was the person who was at the. Olympics who she skied for China. >> Oh, right. >> Even though she's American, >> her one of her parents are both are. Chinese nationals. >> and she sold out. She got offered a. bunch of money to ski for China and she. took it and then she was lauded by all. these woke magazines here in the States. is like, "Oh, good for her." It's like. she's What do you mean she's skiing for. China? Alyssa was offered that. opportunity because she had a Chinese. dad and said, "No, I'm not doing that.

I'm American and I am skating, ice. skating for the United States and she. didn't get anywhere near the same kind. of coverage and treatment." But this is. why we don't like Eileen Goo among other. reasons. What I just said and this. watch. I'm so proud of how I've done. this Olympics. I joke. I'm not a betting. woman, but if I were, I took a big. gamble this time because I chose to do. three events knowing that I hadn't. trained halfpipe in 2 months, knowing. that I would miss the halfpipe training. I'm an introspective young woman. Like,

I spend a lot of time in my head. Um, and it's not a bad place to be. The fact. is I get to become every day the kind of. person that me at age 8 would revere. Like, I would be obsessed with me today. Are you kidding? I would love me. Global. beneficial impact is like my central. theme. The fact is a rising tide raises. all boats. And so this is also good for. every other athlete competing regardless. of what country you compete for. >> She she's given Gail King astronaut. vibes there. >> I wish she had more belief in herself.

She just had a little more. self-confidence. She could get there. She could do it. >> Doesn't she? Like I I inspire everyone. I would have been a huge inspiration to. me. That's right. again. Blonde origin, Megan Markle with love, Megan with a Y, it's all about me, it's all about me, you know. So, we we did a little segment. today on um you know, Bill Maher, no. matter what kind of conversation he's. attempting to have on his podcast, it. always comes back to his porn.

consumption and his masturbatory habits, >> literally. And there's but there's this. thing going on with like Gen Z and it's. weird. It's like two things. One is like. the phenomenon of this younger. generation just actively not having sex. Like they don't want it, they avoid it. >> I know. It's very weird. >> And a kind of narcissism that I don't. think we've seen. I I mean, when you. think of our the greatest athletes. America has produced. I mean, this it. like she's like, I I'm I'm so great for.

not preparing and losing and stealing a. slot from some kid who doesn't have my. le. You know what I mean? vagina, right? >> It's so insane. And and you know, >> so you didn't even know her name. You. were like, "Who?". >> I don't I did not know her name. I. thought, you know, it's Alyssa and. Ailen, right? So I I got confused. because I saw. >> now we love. >> She's the one who's got like again that. great like Brock hair. She's so herself. >> Did it her way. >> I just love her. I love her.

>> And was very self-deprecating and like. gave the credit to others like her. trainer. Not like this who's like, "I inspire everyone, most especially me. My eight-year-old self would love me. I. I would revere me." Who talks like that? Okay. So, she that's what gets you an. invitation to the Mechala. And one other. person I wanted to mention. So, we all. felt uncomfortable when we saw the black. transgender quote woman. That's a lie. It's a man with quadriplegic cerebopaly. at the Met Gala. It was a little.

awkward. Everybody was wondering what's. what's happening here. Who is this. person? Like I I guess good for them. >> This is the Ashley Graham interview. >> Aaron Rose Phillip. Now Aaron goes by. Ariana. It's a man. Okay. It's a man. It's confusing because there's a lot of. boxes checked in this particular. >> I didn't even clock that because there. this reminds me of um Anna Wintor is. dying. This is not what Anna Winter. wants on her red carpet or her green. carpet. Now look, I I'm not making fun.

of this person because they're in a. wheelchair or has cere cereble palsy, but I am going to make fun of this. absurd soundbite. I mean, you didn't. understand like what is this person. doing here? And there they've been. signed to Elite Models. I think it's. elite. >> No, stop. >> Okay. All right. Sure. Um, now we get we. get to listen to Aaron Rose Phillip talk. about himself. And do we have that. soundbite? This is what he had to say. When I first started working, I was an. anomaly to the industry. Arguably, in.

many ways today, really, I still am. I. think it's time to say the quiet part. out loud. The fashion industry is. unlikely to book or pay black trans. feminine and or physically disabled. models to do runway, editorial, and or. campaign because of an absence of. whiteness. What? >> Okay, I'm just going to go right back to. do you remember when Dove tried to do. their all-inclusive ad campaign? Yeah,

>> it didn't work out for them. It didn't. boost sales. In fact, I think it hurt. their sales. >> This is not what people are looking for. You have to know your lane. You have to. know your lane. But that but that. appearance at the Mech Galla reminded me. of there was an episode of Curb Your. Enthusiasm. like at the peak of wokeness where Larry. David goes in to pitch something to. Netflix. >> Yeah, I think I I saw this. >> Do you remember this? and he goes into. the room and there's like a black person. in a wheelchair and then a trans person.

and a and somebody else with some sort. of like unusual thing happening. physically and you could see him try to. >> hold his tongue which for Larry David is. impossible but kind of like what's what. is this like I thought this was just a. pitch meeting. >> What did I just walk into? Yeah. Look, the the thought that you would find. yourself confined to a wheelchair with. that kind of debilitating cerebopal paly. and then on top of that declare yourself. a woman when you're a man just to layer.

on yet another challenge in your life. and then when given the opportunity to. give a TED talk on the things you've. overcome to blame the absence of people. like you on runways on whiteness. on on whiteness That's what he said at. the end there is a testament to how. up and sick we are today in this. country. Like that's going to be your. message. You're not going to be like. thankful that you're here giving a damn. TED talk. And then of course he I I.

guess he got signed by Elite. Maybe it. was before, maybe it was after. Maybe he. guilted his way in. Either way, it's. it's a kindness that they gave to this. guy. Obviously, there's no designer. who's dying to show their clothes on a. trans quadriplegic wheelchair B. Look, that these are just the truths. And uh. instead of being grateful, he's bitter. And by the way, he's trying to co-opt. our sex by claiming he's a she among his. many other special boxes checked. It's.

the whole thing is absurd, Moren. It's. absurd. And he's bitter. Still bitter. about whiteness. Well, I'm sure I'm sure. this person will get a book deal. >> Great. Okay. and it won't sell. Um, okay. Forging forward this Diana Rousini. Mike Vrabel situation. >> Oh yeah, >> there is an update. So she is the former. ESPN, now former New York Times sports. reporter. She was for with the um. offshoot of the New York Times, The. Athletic that covers sports. And he is.

the current coach of the New England. Patriots. And it seemed to be very clear. that they were having an affair based on. pictures that were recently published of. them um at a Tony Sedona Arizona retreat. holding hands and very familiar in the. pool. I said to the audience at the time. uh there's nothing not like a naked shot. of them in bed together, but if I ever. saw Doug holding another woman's hands. or in a hot tub frolicking that way, he'd be dead. >> Not actually dead, but but yelled at and.

probably divorced soon. Um, but I have. to think it over because I really love. Doug. I don't know. I, >> you know. Yeah, it really is hard. You. wonder why like Mike's wife hasn't just. put his clothes out on the lawn in like. a funeral p. Oh. Oh, I was thinking. about why Diana because there was a. there's breaking news on the Daily Mail. today. I don't know if you saw it. Yes. About Diana. >> about the pregnant trip she took. >> Yeah. She was like seven No. No. Oh, it's even worse than that. Okay. Not. worse. It just gets more and more worse. uh she was seven months pregnant and.

they went out on a boat that they. chartered together for two or three. hours. She and. >> Mike and there's video of it. This is. again from 2020. So it comes out that. this alleged affair. They're denying it. still has been going on for at least 6. years. She was pregnant with a baby and. named her baby Mike, which is his name. Here she is with her pregnant belly. 2020. Okay. I've covered a lot of. sources. I've never gone on a like a a. little boat trip with them while I'm. pregnant, while I'm wearing shorts and. like bare feet. >> Who would go out on the open water with.

a man they don't know very intimately? >> I don't know. >> What woman, I tell you, because it's. you're putting yourself at risk. Yeah. >> It's a very vulnerable. Ask Natalie. Wood. >> Oh my god. And ask uh Lacy Peterson. >> And ask that reporter. Remember, do you. remember that reporter who went out like. she was in Norway or something? She was. doing she she was reporting a piece on a. guy who was like either a submariner or. he was a he was a a voyager and she went. on his boat and she was not heard from. again and the authorities began.

investigating and boarded that boat and. he had murdered her. >> Oh my god. >> And dismembered her. So like you see. that you're like they're together. I'm. sorry. >> Yes. The Daily Mail this morning has a. report that um she was g she was doing a. Zoom like during COVID with a bunch of. other reporters and that coach Mike was. in the Zoom Brady Bunch box. Oh, wait. We have this. Oh, sorry. Okay. Well, I'll I'll play it and then you take it. on the back end. It's a family feud. It's a fake family feud segment. She's.

in one of the boxes and so is Mike. Verbel. >> Okay. Hey, Diana. What is something you. might close your eyes to do. >> when you have sex with your husband or. wife? >> Again, this is from uh Family Feud Kids, but yes, >> she answered it. She answered, "It's. done." That's the one. >> It's done. You have to take the answer. >> No. >> Okay. She So, I think that's Mike there. with his head in his hand. Y. >> uh she also posted to Instagram. something like.

you know if I had married if I had. married I married she said something I. married boring I married mediocre. >> if I had married somebody beautiful I'd. be overposting all the time if I had. married somebody exceptional I would be. posting all the time but I didn't and. she's yeah she's she's disgusting and. but but so it made me wonder you know. Again, I think the last time I was here. with you, we were talking about what's. Brian Gnome's kink.

>> cuz this was before the bimboication. thing, like sitting behind her. >> at the at the thing, you know, everybody. knew. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I wonder if the husband's got something. >> Oh, like he likes to see her with. another man. >> Or he's got some sexual fetish that like. he's like, "That's great. She's. preoccupied over here. He can do what he. wants over here." Cuz it doesn't make. sense. >> Like a gnome situation. Yeah. Why aren't. they both announcing divorces? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. It it's. honestly it's like if you found out your. spouse was having an affair allegedly.

for six years and also that she had her. baby your your baby together. at a time when she was having the affair. and your son is named after the affair. partner. Now she's claiming, oh, her. brother's named Mike, too. Oh, sure. Sure. She named him after her brother, not her affair partner. Whatever. What. man would stay? She's actively. humiliating him for years. When she got. engaged to him, she was reportedly.

having the affair with this guy. >> Even if my question is, is that child. his? >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Everybody wants to know. that. >> Is that child his? and you the Daily. Mail had a a great photo of them kissing. on their wedding day and she's leaning. back and it's not like a passionate kiss. or a warm kiss or it's like it's like. let's just just let's touch the surface. of our lips to each other and get this. over with. It's very very curious and it. seems to me that she has always wanted.

coach Mike. Yeah. >> But she had to settle for her a she. says, "Oh, my husband's average." She's. like an executive at Shake Shack. He's. not a bad guy. >> He's not a badl looking guy at all. Seems like he's a great father, you. know, like and she's out here like she's. getting off on humiliating him. >> Her kids are going to hate her. >> as well. They probably should. >> Yeah. Like the husband may forgive this. behavior. I don't know whether he will. or he won't, but the kids are going to. hate her. There they are together. They're going to hate her for. humiliating their dad over and over and.

over. Like you emasculate and humiliate. a boy's father over and over and over. and he will loathe you. You have a lot. to answer for if one word of this is. true. Diana, again, they both deny it. It's an awful lot of photographic. evidence suggesting they've been in. love. She and her affair partner, alleged affair partner, for some time, which leads me to Jane Fonda and Ted. Turner. >> So Ted Turner died this week. Um lived. quite a life. He died at 87. He had been.

diagnosed with Louisbody. dementia about seven years ago in 2018. So yes, eight years. Um so he had a. rough, you know, last decade or so. But. what a titan of industry and of America. just, you know, you look back on the. life he led. Um he apparently had a very. abusive father when he was little. like. very so abusive that Jane Fonda said. when he told her about the abuse on. their second date, she burst out into.

tears. >> Yeah. His his father apparently beat him. and abused him very badly. But his. father was in the billboard business and. Ted eventually joined him. He I think he. failed out or dropped out of Brown. University. Ted did and then joined the. family business and turned one thing. into another and then had the idea for. 24/7 news station CNN because he got. home from work at 7:00 and and there was. no more news. So simple, right? Like my. husband Doug was saying, so simple. Some.

of the best ideas come from just like. the simplest thought, you know, like. guys were like, I see a problem. I'm. going to solve it. >> And uh CNN was later born. It was, of. course, it's still going to this day. Of. course, it's not what it used to be, but. it was, there's no question, it was a. hugely great idea. Changed the way we. consume news, changed so much about. America. There wouldn't have been Fox. had there not been a CNN. >> and so on. >> But they got married. So, he had two. earlier wives with whom he had his. children, two with one and three with. another. Then he meets Jane in 1991, and.

they got married. They had a 10-year. marriage. He was a huge sailor. He won. the America's Cup and was so competitive. um that he one time was racing against. one of his earlier wives who was also a. sailor. They met sailing. >> and she was about to beat him in some. big race and he rammed his boat into. hers. >> I mean like that's God. >> Yeah. Like like and I think if memory. serves like actually like her boat was. sunk or something happened. But in any. event um very competitive they they all.

got divorced. He meets Jane in '91 and. she's 54 years old when they get. married. She looks spectacular. You. won't be surprised to hear because let's. not forget after her career in movies. where she was stunning. You watch The. China Syndrome, she's stunning. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> then she goes on to become an aerobics. guru. And so she's got a rocket bod to. this day. I have to say she's hashtag. goals in this department. She marries. Ted Turner. He's this swashbuckling sort. of amazing strong successful.

crazy like interesting man, but he's got a serious problem with. women. And I guess he's driven by this. insatiable lust that he cannot get past. And even though he's just married a. spectacular Jane Fonda, he cheats on her. the first month. This is from a long. piece that Jane gave an interview for. for which I think I read in the New York. Times last night. Um was either the.

Times or the Journal. But in any event, um he cheats on her within the first. month of their marriage and never. stopped. Was cheating all the time. Was. insatiable. She used to talk about his. quote nouners that he would happen. >> Oh god. >> They refer to when he was forming CNN. and he would sleep at his desk or in. like some room in in the office and one. morning came down at 4:00 a.m. with like. early morning news staff with Raquel. Welsh on his arm. He was so thrilled to.

show off that Raquel Welsh and he had. slept together. She was in a robe and so. was he. But while married to Jane Fonda. never stopped like screwing other women. and all the while she said and she's had. very nice things to say about him but. she was talking about like the downsides. of him and why the marriage didn't work. was like crushingly insecure and needed. to be built up all the time and she he. needed mothering by her and she was just. exhausted. She said she really didn't.

like find herself until that marriage. ended 10 years later, even though she. now and for many years thereafter would. refer to him as her favorite husband. She's got a few too. >> Um, and it all sounded so complicated. And then he later said after his divorce. from her, he had four women. He had 26. homes. Moren, I mean, obviously one of. the richest men in the world in the. world. He he had four different women in. his life and he would spend a week a. month with each one at the different.

properties, right? And so there there. are women who are living like this who. are like, "Sure, I'll I'll be Ted. Turner's second week of the month girl. and I'll have access to all these. millions or billions and these this. wonderful mansion maybe like the Arizona. one is mine. The one in Bise is another. ones. and just painted this very complicated. interesting picture of him and frankly. of Jane Fonda too. >> Well, Jane Fonda had a really rough. origin story as well. You know, her. mother committed suicide when she was a.

teenage girl. Um her father who America. believed to be this incredibly warm. fatherly figure was very cold and. distant on Golden Pond. I think she has. basically said was very biographical for. her. You know, he played this very, you. know, it was Katherine Heppern and um. Henry I think I must have seen that. movie like a hundred times as a kid. They played it on HBO on a loop. >> They did. They totally did. >> Right. And so she's got this very and. you know she was prior to that she's had.

several husbands, one of whom was Roger. Vim. Now she and her she has a. doorstoppper autobiography that I have. yet to get to but I have been dying to. get to it. She writes in that book about. he how he forced her or really insisted. that she engage in threesomes. and I think that um. men at this level I think I think it's I. would love like a longitudinal study of. men at this level because it sounds like. an outlier kind of behavior but you're.

talking about this and I'm thinking. about like JFK who had women everywhere. all the time compulsively like sex. addiction that also I think I truly. believe that womanizers do not love. women. >> They don't. >> Right. >> Women are there to scratch an itch. They. are interchangeable. I mean, Megan, could you imagine hundreds of women all. over the world like like a a a beautiful. movie star who is an entrepreneur and.

very smart herself isn't enough for you, you know? But you need this arm candy so. that shareholders think you're a stable. human being. That's like I was thinking. about Tiger Woods, you know, and he's. still doing we know, do you know? Um, as. I just mentioned, Elon Musk and this. compulsion to make sure that his DNA is. is populating the earth to to like a. Genghaskhan level. You know what I mean? It's it I I I you you you got to wonder.

what makes somebody like that tick and. the ways in which I mean I would love to. know the real story about Bill Gates and. Melinda's divorce. >> She clearly love stand him. I mean you. you hear her talk about him now and. she's got nothing but disdain for him. >> Obviously he was romping around while. they were. >> married and it's like. >> But wasn't he also having a very. long-term affair with someone high up at. Microsoft? someone who Melinda would be. in board meetings with. I mean, it.

wasn't enough that he was catting around. on her. He had to humiliate her in that. way. >> with like Ebstein and friends. I mean, >> the Epstein, you know what I mean? Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, you mentioned womanizers are. no fans of women. >> That's an an ultimate irony and true. I. wanted to bring up something about Bill. Maher. >> Yeah. because I know you've been. unsparing of Bill Maher on the nerve and. I'm very entertained by the whole show. as you know including that. >> Thank you. >> But I've I've been in the past defensive.

of Bill. I've also been on the attack. against Bill at various times in my. career. When I was much younger, I used. to say he strikes me as a misogynist. I. used to say that. >> And then he started having me on and he. treated me well. And I was like, "All. right, well, if he's a misogynist, why. does he keep having me on and treating. me well? Like I I'll I'll take him based. on his behavior toward me." you know, it's which has all been very positive. and respectful. And um something. interesting happened between the two of. us within the past, I don't know, four.

months. So, I've never been anything but. nice to Bill Maher since I've known him. personally. I've been very cordial to. him. I've had him on the show many. times. uh well once or twice and I've. been on his show a few times and. he was one of the first Moren to run to. his microphone and call me an. anti-semite. because some small contingent of the. neocon group started to call me that. because I don't know why they just. started calling me that because I.

wouldn't defund Tucker Carlson is really. what led them to call me that. I've. never said anything anti-semitic in my. life, nor do I feel any anti-semitism, of course, at all in my heart. Literally, my best friends are Jewish. Um, but anyway, it that's all it took. I. mean, for like Ben Shapiro to go out. there and like say she's a coward at. that Turning Point event in December and. it that's it. He ran to his microphone. and on his show actually said, "I was an. anti-semite." And gee, it's amazing how.

this thing is like lurking right behind. the the screen for so many of these. people, you know, just like that she. turned and she's an anti. So, he's a. hypocrite because he does his whole. anti-woke thing, >> you know, like I don't like these. labels. Who are these perfect people? He. said when he had me on after the whole. blackface controversy, "I don't like. what they did to you. This is so wrong. They want to tar and feather you. They. call you these names and it's so wrong.

It's a virtue signal." It took him two. minutes to do that to me when his. favorite issue came up. Right. And I. have to say it made me think back to. like all the misogyny claims against. him. Like would he have done that to a. man? Was he too quick to jump on board. the anti-MK train because I had. humiliated him a couple of times that. let's face it both on my show and his. because he wasn't prepared. He didn't. have his facts about Hillary Clinton or.

about Donald Trump. We've had very. infamous viral exchanges and he hasn't. done that well in them. And next thing I. know, I mean a second later that. hypocrite turns on me and actually. has the nerve to use the. anti-semite term on me, which is a damn. lie. And if he bothered to look into it. for two minutes, he'd know that. Anyway, I just thought, as usual, Moren is. right. Oh, I'm sorry. I don't I I don't. enjoy being right in circumstances like. this. This is the thing with a guy like.

a Bill Maher, you know? I like his show. to me is a throwback to like the kind of. shows that would be popular. Like I feel. like the 70s was the last time where. like it pop culture and kind of. intellectualism mixed and you would have. people like a Christopher Buckley on a. Dick Cavitt with like a John Lennon. >> It was great. >> and everybody would smoke and drink and. bat around ideas and like public. intellectuals were on the cover of Time. and his show used to be like that. Now. he kind of has just like this sort of. rotating lazy Susan of predictable.

guests and you know they're gonna say. and you know it bums me out because his. show used to be spikier than it often. is. I feel the same way. He often will. come to the table not terribly prepared. >> Not at all. >> Um he'll he has more male guests than. female guests. And the female guests he. has often seem a little bit cowed by him. or he'll talk to them in ways he just. doesn't talk to male guests. like he'll. roll his eyes at a female guest and he. would never do that to a a male. And um. but I I just love I I love that Bill.

it's so funny like when he says. something like it's just lurking behind. you know Bill's podcast is just about. Bill's peeverations on not getting laid. in high school and college. I think. that's really the root of his misogyny. >> I mean he's super super proud of himself. that his girlfriend is something like 40. years younger than he is. Like. >> is that Al Alpuccino? Sloppy Seconds. Is. this the woman? >> I don't know who she is, but he's pretty. quick to tell you that he's dating. somebody that much younger than he is. I.

mean, he loves that fact. >> So again, like how how pro woman So on. his podcast, this most recent one we. did, he was like he was um castigating. the women of LA for thinking that they. could approach a Bill Maher and expect. to level up by dating him. >> And he literally says, "You know what? You're not that special. All you have to. offer is you're cute and you're a dime a. dozen and why don't you try cracking a. book and it's like where is this guy. looking for women like on Pornhub?

>> Yeah, there's a lot of grind not. Grinder. That's a whole other cult. >> That's how we look for women, right? >> That's that's No, that's for gay men. But uh you know, but I'm just saying I. he's he's not it's not like he he's. looking he's not a Ted Turner looking. for even if it's you know, in some ways. cosmetic. I'm sure their relationship. was real on many levels. The the. fascinating thing about Ted and Jane, I. was thinking about it this morning. They. both have said that they were like the. loves of each other's life. I would bet. they really did connect very deeply on.

their very broken childhoods. Yes. And. them being. >> She sounds like she was willing to. mother him. Like she knew he needed it. and she was willing to give it, but it. was never enough. like no matter what. she gave him, he was still going to. philander. >> And you know, she's a strong, proud. woman. At some point, maybe you can't. look past it. You know, she clearly. tried, but after 10 years, let's face. it, after that point, you're at the. point where you're either making a. deeper connection or you're splitting,

you know, and I'm it sounds like she. looked around and said, "This is too. exhausting. He's just. >> too humiliating or he got somebody. pregnant like something happened where. like you just cannot come back from it, you know, or he got caught maybe with. somebody under. You just never know with. these guys because it's never enough. Like the dopamine hits they stop. hitting. And I think that's why we see. so much like truly scandalous behavior. where they're ramping up their they're. they're constantly pushing boundaries. and and and and almost like daring the.

culture to catch them. >> I don't know. >> I know. so many women over the course of. my life who really think it's it's the. beall end all to to bag a billionaire, you know, to land a man with a ton. of money. And I know some men who have a. ton of money who have been out on many. many dates and so on. And my one of them. said it best when he went out with one. of these women. He said. she felt like she was looking for a.

solution. And I was like, that is such a good. line, right? Like she's not there for. you. She wants you as a as a solution to. her problems. No one should marry. somebody who's looking for a solution, right? Like it's like you should be. marrying somebody who compliments your. life with whom you get along, who. stimulates you intellectually and. physically and all that. Um, but I swear. if these women would just look for. somebody who would treat them well, who. had some modicum of mental health to. start with and who would treat them well. and and fell in love with them, not.

because they could compliment their life. or not because they had stars in their. eyes over them because they were these. rich, successful men, I think these. women would be so much happier. I don't. think aiming to marry a man with money. is a good aim at all. I think it will. actually really make you quite. miserable. >> Oh, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't. agree more. Honestly, the idea of. marrying a billionaire terrifies me. I. think that is such a big different kind. of life with a whole kind of apparatus. around it and like ego and I I don't.

know. I just I think that the healthy. reaction would be to say to step back. for a moment and say, >> is is this truly for me? Like could I. handle this? Like. >> you get folded in. You don't get you. don't join in a partnership. >> You're going to be absorbed into an. ecosystem that's pre-existing. And a. billionaire has like a very specific. kind of mindset. And um, of course, I'm. not trying to paint with a broad brush, but I'll never forget years and years. and years ago, I was at a party and I. didn't quite understand.

what was happening until it clicked into. place for me. It was a man I knew for a. long time. I didn't know that this guy. had any necessarily romantic designs on. me. And then. flash forward to his divorce. Had a. party at his new place, invited me. I. went, I thought, "Oh, my friend is. having a party." I didn't quite. understand the wealth that he came like. I didn't know about it. It he didn't. advertise it. And when I learned about.

it, that was something I liked. I was. like, "Oh, he doesn't advertise it." I. still wasn't interested in him in that. way. But at a certain point in the. evening, my conversation with him was. interrupted by another man who was. basically like, "Now it's time now." And. there was a line that formed all the way. back to the back of the townhouse. >> Gosh. >> And it was young women. Come shake. hands, meet, make eye contact. Okay, you. go the here. Here comes the next one. It. was like a par it was a parade of. potential contestants. And then it and I.

was like, "What?" I was young. I was. like in my 20s. Like I was like, "Wow.". Like I that was something I had never. seen before and I was like, "There's a. there's a level I I saw behind a little. bit of a curtain." You know, I don't. there I'm not going to say who this is, but there is a very very well-known. power broker in New York who continues. through his assistant to ask me to come. and be part of some sort of roundt. group that gets to ask him questions.

over a meal. And I continue to say, "No, thank you. I'm not doing that. If he's. ever coming through Connecticut and he. wants to meet for a coffee, I'll. consider it. But I'm not going and. joining some herm of media people for. the privilege of asking him a question. There are lots of people who would love. for me to ask them many questions. They. come on this show and I give them my. platform and we have a great time. But. what the hell? like the level of hubris.

of some of these big swingers, you know, in New York or in California is kind of. gling. >> and uh they have only too many people. around them who are willing to play. right into it. Whether you're the one. who lines up the herum to shake the hand. at the end of the party or you're the. one who plans the dinner parties where. the the the treasured guests may get the. privilege of asking one question of. their host as they I guess listen for. the rest of the time to the host ramble. on about his thoughts on life. I'm good. Thanks. Okay, this has been very.

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spoke to Cara Swisser at some summit. over in London. And wait until you hear. what he said. S. >> So Cash Patel wouldn't survive an Lemon. administration. >> Cash Patel would not surv. uh a Pam Bondi. >> Well, you outlasted her. >> They would. Yeah, I know. >> Yeah. >> Uh. none of those people would uh would ever. be in a Don Lemon administration. >> It would actually be on meritocracy. >> All right. Away from this ridiculous.

speculation, would you ever consider. running for office? Yeah, I would. I. would. I don't I don't know why. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> But you're gonna go right to freaking. president. Well, why not? >> Why not? >> All right. Okay. >> I mean, I'm a man of a certain age. I've. been around long enough. I've I've, you. know, I've worked hard. I You laugh. I. know people laugh, but I I'm a. completely self-made person. I did not. come from a wealth. I did not have $400. million to start. I've become a an I've. made it to the top of my profession. And.

I've also made it I've also started a. business and I'm a self-made millionaire. from a country where my ancestors were. enslaved. So, >> oh my lord, could we be that lucky? Do. it, Don. I believe in you. Do it. >> I just want to salute Caris Swisser's. bravery in sitting with Don Lemon since. as we know in the world according to Don. women are past their peak. Yeah. at 50. something or prime. So, uh you know,

it's kind of it's just it's it's just. this this whole little ecosystem of. these people just buffering each other. constantly, you know. Oh, Don, you. totally have what it takes to be pre are. you going to go straight to president? Well, I guess why not? and Don who you. know slightly before his firing I'll. never forget this image of him at New. York Fashion Week and he was standing in. the center of a bunch of paparazzi and. he had like his camel $2,000 coat. hanging off of his shoulders and he was.

holding up both hands to show off his. bejeweled fingers and he was a CNN. anchor at the time. >> It made it to the top of his profession. Did you? This guy I again the delusion. I love it. And also very rumored. reportedly to be very handsy out in uh. where he's got a home in Sag Harbor. Married though he may be. Apparently. there's no shortage of male weight staff. out in Sag Harbor who've been accosted. by the one and only Don Lemon. reportedly. >> Here's the other thing like he he.

makes himself sound like Trump, right? Like self-made millionaire. Although. Trump received some help from his dad. Uh but Don Lemon doesn't have one one. millionth of the wealth. Everyone knew. he was the dumbest person there and kept. advancing because he kept reminding. everybody he was black and he was gay. which worked for some time until it. didn't and now thinks that those things. qualify him to run for president. So in. any event, uh he's wrong. Donald Trump. had built a fortune. He had built an. empire. He had a casino uh you know he.

was a casino magnet. He had a line of. hotels. The Trump name was ubiquitous in. America. He also hosted the number one. show for 10 plus years on NBC, not CNN, prime time cable, but you know, The. Apprentice, which was all about. moneymaking and businesses and so on. In. any event, now speaking of journalists. in the news, Sharon Alons is a. correspondent on 60 Minutes. She. recently had a dust up with Barry Weiss. at CBS. She's the new chief over there. And it was over Sharon Alonsy's piece on.

Secot, the prison where we're keeping. people, well, we're sending people over. in El Salvador and and they're being. kept there. Uh, alleged Venezuelan gang. members who have been in the United. States illegally. Barry Weiss held. Sharon Alonsy's piece for a few weeks. because she allegedly wanted to make it. more fair and balanced to Trump. Sharon. Alons and many others at 60 Minutes took. umbrage at that, saying it was fine. She. she barely did anything to it. And by. the way, she had five screenings she. could have gone to to raise these. objections. She skipped them all and.

then at the last minute was like, "We're. pulling it." And unnecessarily gave. Alonscy and CBS and C 60 Minutes a black. eye. Um, now there is a report that. she is lawyering up and has reportedly. contacted my lawyer, Brian Freriedman, Justin Baldon's lawyer, to represent her. in a suit that she is getting ready to. file against Barry Weiss, who reportedly. is about to fire her or let her contract. expire, which it does within the next 30.

days. >> This is according to page six. >> Um, so you tell me what that tells you. I mean, to me, it's like Barry Weiss is. loathed within the building at CBS. And. some management, you know, of the zoo. animals is really required when you are. the new boss. You know, you can't just. treat them like they're caged animals. and shove the food in there and let them. sit in their own slop. You actually have. to be kind and respectful and somewhat.

nurturing of them and their work product. or when you treat them like a zoo. animal, they're going to come back. against you. Like, you're in for it. It's just to me, she doesn't get it. She. doesn't get how to manage talent. You. can't fire the whole newsroom and you. can't alienate the whole newsroom. And. um this was her mo over at the free. press, my understanding. Terrible, terrible at managing people. um. convinced that she is always right. Um. does not take to questioning or.

criticism. It's you know I think also. when you come in at at a at a at a level. like that it is your job to go and have. lunch or a coffee with your top talent. Talk to them. See where they are, where. they want to be, issues they're having. Make it clear that you're you want to. work with them. You want to be a place. they can come to. or if you've got. issues with how this thing is running. You know, what do you think? It's that. kind of I just think the Ellison's are. having major buyer remorse. That stunt.

she pulled with Sharon Alonsy that that. never really sat right because what. Sharon and her producers also said and. many in the newsroom was that they had. gone to the Trump administration many. times to get officials on the air to. talk for this segment and they refused. >> or at least an on thereord statement, >> right? And Barry was like, "Well, you. should go back again." And you know the. reporter in them is like how many times. do I go back like I'm not. >> And they were saying you can't spike a. story just because the administration. won't comment on it. That is true.

>> That is true. >> Exactly. >> To me it's you can't as the manager. spike a reporter's story because you. failed to look at it the five times it. was screened. Right. Like because you. failed to find the deficiency until the. the night before it was supposed to be. aired. You're setting the reporter up. for an unnecessary embarrassment. That's. what she did to Sharon Alonso, >> whether you like the piece or not. Like. you you missed your window to weigh in. Now you're going to embarrass the entire. network unnecessarily. >> And that's what she did to her. And so.

the but she's reportedly angry because. Alonsy leaked the story to the media. about what Barry did. And reportedly. Barry wanted an investigation and she. wanted her to potentially be sued over. leaking. This is a news organization. who's upset about leaks. I'm sorry, but. that's kind of our business. You don't. make a federal case out of it when it's. literally your business to try to. encourage leaks to you, even though. sometimes they may come out about you.

It just feels like sophomore in high. school territory. Correct me if I'm. wrong. First of all, if I had been that. reporter, I would truly wonder if my if. if if the if the head of the newsroom. was trying to sabotage me that like. missing five screenings and then pulling. it the night before when guess what? It. leaked in Canada. The Canadians saw it. So now you look even sloppier than that. Secondly, I don't think Barry Weiss has. ever ever worked as an investigative. reporter. I don't think she's ever done. a door knock. I don't think she's ever.

worked in television. >> parachuted into a field. She was an. opinion columnist. It's a very comfy, cozy job. She doesn't know what she's. doing. She doesn't know the basics of. investigative journalism. >> Yeah. No. And she doesn't know anything. about television. And it actually is a. specific art form that you do need to. know a thing or two about in order to do. it well. And it's not happening. CBS has. literally record low ratings across the. board. The morning show, the evening. show, they have fallen precipitously. since she took over. I don't think these. shows are going to make it. and she's.

steadily running CBS into the ground. Um, her new bosses, the Ellison's may. love her personally, but they're not. going to have any choice professionally. but to re-evaluate this decision some. point soon because this is just it's a. it's a disaster for their flagship. property, for their morning show, for. their evening show, and for their. talent. Um, okay, I want to get to some. good news. I think Ridgeland Farms, it's. this place in Wisconsin. There were. 1,500 beagles. being used for animal testing.

Apparently, they like beagles because. they're the right size into their own. hands. >> And they're submissive. Hold on. And. they're submissive. They're sweet. personalities. Like, they allow you to manipulate them. It's so sad. And this hero. um went in to this Wisconsin facility. and stole the beagles. I like all I can. say is good for you, sir. Um Wayne.

Sun, H S I N G. And he's now being. charged with burglary because they did. steal the Beagles. But of course, I. think most of us are in favor of it. This is him opening the door. Um, by the. way, they in 2025, a judge found. probable cause that this facility had. broken Wisconsin anti- cruelty laws, including certain medical procedures. that were being done without proper. anesthesia and inadequate sanitation and.

ventilation. And they they got a slap on. the wrist. And this guy said, "You know. what? They got off too easy and thought. this was a rescue mission where they. went in there and rescued. Look at these. beagles. >> God, >> all these beagles. Big Ranch Dog Rescue. and the Center for a Humane Economy uh. reached a deal to rehouse the 1,500. dogs. And there are many people who say.

it's theft. It's wrong. You know what? Did you think your shampoo was tested on. before it got to you? Um, this guy has. also stolen hens that are laying eggs. Do you eat eggs? Yes, I do. So, does it. make me a hypocrite? I maybe I'm wrong, but I see a difference between hens that. are laying eggs that we eat and beagles. that are being abused with inappropriate. anesthesia before we perform procedures.

on them. That is so effed up. And I. applaud this guy. I am completely on his. side. >> I I I ju I am just seeing this now. because I did see. >> this is a video of of one of the beagles. being taken to the beach by his new. owner. Before she put him down, she just. brought him to the beach. It was his. first look at the ocean. And he does the. doggy paddle in her arms. It's. instinctual. It's instinctive. Look. Look at him. >> Look at him. >> Oh my god. >> Oh, the sweetest, sweetest baby.

>> Oh, these dogs. They're going to need a. lot of love and a lot of special care. because they've been they've been. abused. This this is they've come out of. a trauma and now they they don't quite. know they're safe. Like I hope that's. not AI. I hope that's real. I see these. things with animals. I know you're. right. I think. >> but um yeah. No, I I animal testing in. general is is terrible. I can't believe. as as we now enter the AI era that it's. going to be necessary to continue except. in probably the most extreme kinds of. testing like in terms of looking for a. cure for cancer, etc. But um no, this is.

a it's a Robin Hood feelood story to be. sure. >> Yeah, I I'm ready to adopt a beagle and. I do not need another dog, Moren. Callahan. I do not need one. >> Well, from everything you say, Strudwick. keeps you on your toes. So, you know, buyer beware, I suppose, or adopter. beware. >> You know, we love him. He's lucky. He's. so cute and so sweet. >> But I'm thinking about getting one of. those beagles. Great to see you, my. friend. Have a great weekend. >> So good to see you, Megan. >> Lots of love. Lots of love to all of.

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