The Fake Campus Assault Statistics, w/ Heather Mac Donald, and "Sense and Sensibility" Shock Casting

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly show. Happy Monday. Hope you had a great weekend. We've got. a great show for you today. Heather. McDonald. She's the bomb. We'll be here. later. She is the perfect person to talk. to on a day like today. But first, major. updates in the case of college students. now being accused of a massive gang. rape. I mean, it is Salem all over. again. These young men have had their. names plastered all over every major. newscast in America for a week now. The.

mob has decided they're guilty and ought. to be put to death, which is literally. what we are hearing in several circles. online without a trial, without a due. process chance to defend themselves. Not. in a kangaroo court on a college campus, which is a joke, but in [music] an. actual court, either civil or now it's. looking more and more likely criminal. Don't miss a moment. Subscribe to this. show on YouTube, and follow me on Insta,

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evidence against the young men who are. probably in some room with their teeth. chattering they're so scared about going. to jail for 20 years because the public. has made up its mind. Yes, there are. plenty of online influencers and others. who are being fair to the young men, but. not that many. And I'll tell you why. It's because their objective conduct was. gross and no one wants to defend it. But.

just a reminder, you can defend them. from this overreach, the legal overreach. and not defend the actual decisionmaking. on the evening. Obviously. Obviously. Wake up people. Wake up. It doesn't have. to be they're entirely innocent morally. and legally. I don't defend what they do. or did morally at all. I mean, I will. contextualize it. I'm sick and tired of.

people saying she's a victim. What. happened? The university president came. out over the weekend. What happened to. Jane Doe was horrific. What do you mean. what happened to this victim? Like, what. do you mean what happened to How about. Mr. President of Cornell? What Jane Doe. engaged in? What Jane Doe decided to do? You know why there was never a question. about whether I was gang raped or had. three threesomes in a night? Because I. never did that. I never ever put myself in a situation.

where that would even be a remote. possibility of a question someone would. ask. It's miraculous how that works. And. trust me, I grew up at a time when we. didn't have cameras everywhere. So had I. wanted to do this or had the men around. me wanted to do this, we could have. gotten away with it. I mean, this is. just absurd. She has been robbed of all. accountability. You know, it's like. Shawn Davis was saying, she has full. agency and no accountability. That is not female empowerment.

I'm sorry to break it to you, ladies of. America, but you cannot have one without. the other. You want full agency? Good. Me, too. Guess what? We both have it. You cannot. have it without accountability for your. own decision-making. There cannot be a. presumption in the criminal and civil. court systems that someone who claims to. be a rape victim is a trutht teller as.

there is now because we allow them. anonymity. The media plays along granting them. anonymity just because they say they are. a rape victim. Are they? Or are they. someone like a crystal mangum out to. ruin boys lives unjustifiably? Are they? Or are they actually a willing. participant in a sex act who then had. regrets and did something truly evil, which is to turn a consensual sex act.

into a rape that could imprison a man. and take away the freedom for the rest. of his life for something the woman. knows was consensual. Why does such a. woman deserve to be protected? genuinely. because of all the other victims who are. genuine, [snorts] who are not playing a. game, who are not lying. That's not good. enough. We don't protect protect any. other victims in the court system or the. media this way. We we do not say, "Oh, you've been.

humiliated as a man who got raped by. some criminal. You don't have to put. your name out there." We we don't say. men who get mugged and get the. kicked out of them. Even big muscly men. can file anonymously because it might be. humiliating for them. Genuinely, it. might be to come out as a victim of. someone else's beatd down. You know, we. don't do this. Like there's so many. crimes that might feel embarrassing to.

the victim and we don't say, "Okay, you're granted your anonymity until the. day a jury says guilty or not guilty, liable or not liable." This is a very. anacronistic. protective blanket we've put over an. entire half of the population. Any woman. who [snorts] says she's a victim is. presumed to be one still in the courts. in the media coverage of such an.

allegation and still among some pockets. on the left in the way they approach any. accuser. This is deeply immoral. There. are two sides to every story. You don't. know and I don't know what happened. inside of Cornell that night. We know. there's been a story told by Jane Doe. We know that from her own story, the DA, a Democrat, said there's no case here based on her.

own admission. And we know that it took her two years. to actually file a civil suit, not to go. back to that DA. She [snorts] wasn't. willing to do that. Now her lawyer's all. over the television ripping on the DA. How dare he? He didn't look into this. He would have found the Snapchat. messaging if he had just looked into it. Where were you, sir? Where was your. client? She had the the contact. According to the DA, he told the campus. police, "Give her my contact. Tell her.

to call me. If there's more, if she. wants to discuss my decision not to. charge nothing crickets for two years. now, she and her lawyer are just. outraged that no charges were brought. and this DA didn't do his job according. to them. Now this morning, the, you know, the. attempt to make you hate the young men. continues on ABC's Good Morning America. They played audio from Matt Engles. He's. the main guy who she came to the. fraternity to see that night, the guy.

who proposed a threesome, who she. [snorts] says she said, "Yes, I will I. will have a a threesome with you." In. response to his question, he. participated in threesome one and two. And we now know from New York Times. reporting, which I'll get to in a. minute, he was expelled. According to. her complaint, um, this is the guy who. shephered her through the evening. And. also, the Snapchat messages make clear. he behaved like a complete dirt bag. He.

was texting about the woman who had come. to see him, who she considered a friend. Clearly, he didn't view her as a friend. If this is how Matt Ingles treats his. friends, count me out. But he is the one. after his buddy John Newell, who he. asked to join the threesome allegedly. tweeted out at some point in the middle. of the evening free Pword upstairs to. the 57 guys on their group chat. Matt. Engles responded like you can just walk. in and whip it out. And now it emerges.

that he did more than that on the text. chain. Okay, but let me just try to keep it all. straight. ABC News, they have this audio. and it apparent apparently according to. Jane Do's lawyer, Jane Doe called these. young men, some one or two or three, I. don't know, three times after the. October 19th, 2024 incident and. surreptitiously recorded the phone. calls. At this point, she's obviously. just looking to get them to make. admissions. And they both have competing.

interests here. she has a an interest to. get them to say something incriminating. and they have an interest at this point. before she's actually come out with the. fact that she's reporting them to the. Cornell University police which happened. on November 8th um to try to appease. her, be as nice as possible, be as. accommodating as possible, give her as. many points as possible because I'm sure. they're scared shitless because if she. if you know as as some genius you know. once said and I've repeated this on the.

show before, if you co-conspire in a. crime and your co-conspirator calls you. up after the fact and says, "What did we. do again? Tell me again how we committed. the crime." The only correct response. is, "No, that is not a thing.". [laughter]. That always amuses me. Um because the. odds are they've been caught and the. cops have, you know, cut a deal with him. to throw you uh sell you up the river. Now, she that's what she's done here. She's not cut a deal, but clearly she's.

she's she's thinking about criminal. charges. That that must have been. obvious to them because in the package, you'll hear her say something like, "Tell me again what happened that. night." And here's another thing that. you'll notice of this package. In this. piece, ABC chose to air the audio. of Engles only. So now it appears we. can't even hear Jane Doe's voice. Even. that is too offensive. Watch. You want. me to give my recollection of the entire.

night? >> She told him she spent time in the. emergency room and in therapy because. there's so much damage on my body and my. brain. She said, "If I wanted to take. this somewhere, what y'all did would be. classified as gang rape. You already. knew when I came in, I was 10 shots. deep." Les responded with a different. recollection. >> You did tell me you were sober, by the. way. You You did. You said you hadn't. been anywhere. >> Jane Do said she was 100% sure. She told. him she had been at a bar for a sorority. event. and I never lie. She asked him. how they ended up in a threesome with.

one of his frat brothers. >> So you you you come in, say hi. Uh we. start dancing for like maybe 3 to 5. minutes and then I pop the question, you. say yes. Then I remember like we didn't. know who else to bring. So I go up to. who was on the dance floor too and I pop. the question and he's he's like yeah. And then we go upstairs. Jane Doe then. asking for his help to identify all of. the men, saying she remembered four in. the bed and more standing around the.

room. Engel seemed to suggest both of. their memories may not be accurate. >> I have wrecked my brain for this. mystery. You know, it's possible that. both of us like remember this and it's. not true. >> Jane Doe pushed back saying, "No, because I remember looking up and being. like that is too many people." She then. asked, "Do you remember how any of these. guys walked in?" the party was sort of. like crowded, so people started like um. filling up the balcony just cuz there.

was nowhere else to go. >> Engles did not mention that during the. incident he posted to a group on. Snapchat a photo of her in bed and an. invitation to his fraternity brothers. saying, "Boys, come whip it out." Engles. has not responded to Jane Doe's lawsuit, but during Cornell's internal. investigation, he said he was too. intoxicated to consent and suggested. Jane Doe assaulted him. >> Why can't that be true? Why can't that. be true? Unlike Jane Doe, he kept. passing out during the initial.

threesome. He kept he couldn't keep his. eyes open. He clearly was passing out. and drifting in and out of. consciousness. H how is it that he takes. all the blame for accountability, for. agency in the moment, but she gets none. She wasn't passing out. Oh, now her. lawyer is using the term she was blacked. out when when all the way up to 3:05. a.m. She was texting. She texted her. roommates at 3:05. She certainly wasn't. blacked out during threesome number one. or threesome number two, which were over.

by then. When did she black out? Why. does he get expelled for a sex act or. two committed when he was out of his. mind, high slash drunk, and he gets no. cover for the fact that he was high. slash drunk? Might it be because he. chose to ingest those substances? Oh, wait. So did she? You see, this is the whole thing is. basically a sexist,

what's the word I'm looking for? Um, it's a sexist play. It's just a sexist. like play act where we pretend that the. women have no agency and the men have. all of it. We hold the men to account. for their bad behavior but the women. none of it or in this case women. What? How is this progress? the the absolute freak out by all women, not all of them are freaking out, but.

the ones who are over this accounts for. zero agency for women whatsoever. They. no one will even consider the. possibility that this woman made a. decision to get it on with four men. total, uh, not seven, and enjoyed it. because I'm just going to be honest, she's not the most attractive gal. She's. extremely. beefy in in like her arms and her legs. She has a whole video online talking. about her cankles. Um, and she.

possibly enjoyed being admired. This is. how women make these mistakes. Admired, wanted. Some women even, you know, foolishly say loved by these guys at. Cornell. This is probably a first for her. She's. probably thrilled to be so admired. because she clearly didn't grow up the. incredibly beautiful one. I'm not trying. to be insulting. I'm just trying to tell. you the narrative that is likely to have. occurred here in my opinion.

And why can't we account for that. possibility that the girl who was never. the most sought after suddenly had four. guys who wanted to have sex with her and. she counted this Yeah. in her inebriated. state as a win and liked the feeling of. being sexy and desired and wanted. It. happens. Sorry, it does. And that's why she kept saying yes. Why. do we have to go right to she's a.

victim? Even she took weeks to get. there. It wasn't until they told her she. couldn't go to the party. We all know. that, right? This is so disempowering. to all of womankind, to all of us, to. our daughters. We are capable of making decisions. She. made the decision to drink and then show. up at a fraternity house at 11:00. She now says in that in that exchange.

with um Les that she had done 10 shots. She said, "You know, I did 10 shots.". And he says, "You told me you were. sober. Okay. So, where'd she do the 10 shots? By the way, I genuinely would like to. know. This seems to be I don't know, something made up. Maybe to help her. lawsuit, maybe to help her claims that. she was inebriated from the second she. knocked on that door, but even her. lawsuit says she had uh Tito's vodka at. the Tridel House. She doesn't specify.

how much. Then they went to a bar where. she got the under 21 stamps and they. complained that this bar nevertheless. served her one drink. Then she went to a. second bar and they don't allege in the. lawsuit that she drank there. So by my. count that's one drink at a bar and she. what she did she did nine shots at the. Trout House. And honestly if she did. nine shots at the Tridel health house. who is to blame for that is it Trid. Delt? I don't think so. It's you Jane. Doe. Why the did you do nine shots.

at age 20 or 19 at the sorority house in. my life? I've never done nine shots and. I'm an Irish woman. This is just what is this? And then the. whole world is oh you're excused for. anything bad that you you choose to do. thereafter. We have to blame everybody who. interacted with you for their bad. behavior because you chose to do nine. shots and then have a drink on top of. it. What is this?

Like you show up, you say, "I've done 10. shots." This is according to her. And. everybody inside needs to run, duck, and. cover. Get the hell under your bed. Lock. yourself into the hope chest. Stay away. If you lay one finger on this girl, the. whole lynch mob is going to come for. you, saying you had no right. She was. inebriated. Even though the law in New. York is exactly the opposite, but now there's a big push to change. that. Do not send your child. If this. law changes, do not send your son to.

college in New York State. If this law. changes, don't. Every drunken romp can be criminalized. if this law changes. And it will only be. criminalized one way. As we see in this. first threesome, one of the guys can't. stop passing out. One of the guys is dry. heaving and apparently did eventually. throw up. And the only person whose. intoxication. count counts is the is Jane Doe. No one.

gives a that those two guys were. completely blitzed. that they also were heavily inebriated. and had also been doing ketamine. That. doesn't count. You see, men can't be. taken advantage of, which is just a lie. They absolutely can. So, now we hear from Jane Doe's lawyer. He should appear on every television. show with a pitchfork. He should be. mandated to appear everywhere holding.

his pitchfork. His name is Thomas Gifra. He went on TV with CNN over the weekend. and he alleged that there may be now in. his estimation even more members of the. fraternity involved in this thing. If. this was a normal investigation that was. done in New York City, for example, they. would have gotten search warrants. They. would have grabbed every single one of. these phones of these guys. They would. have downloaded all this material. I'm. I'm confident knowing this day and age. and the group that we're dealing with.

that there were other photos. There were. videos. And you know where I think those. photos and videos are now? I think. they're in the bottom of Lake Kyhoga. because once they knew there was a. problem, they cleared everything out and. they got rid of it. And the fact is that. the investigators let that happen. They. let that happen. We'd have a lot more. evidence. And frankly, I don't I'm not. even sure we have everybody who. participated in this assault because my. client was blacked out during periods of. time. And that's reported in these.

statements. We don't even know the. people we have or the people we. definitively know. If you ask me, I. believe there were more. >> Based on what? based on what? You got your own client in her little. setup phone call with Matt Engles saying. she can't remember anything. So, what is it based on? Let's just cast. a wide net. That's what the disgusting. vile pig Amy Syskin did online as she.

outed the names of all 57 on the text. chain as equally derelicts. Like this woman decided to cast this. wide net of disgusting blowback on every. single man on the text chain suggesting. they're all disgusting. because they received the text because. they were on the Snapchat. Um this is. deeply wrong because that text chain got. started someplace around 1:40 in the.

morning. Not not the original text. chain, but the. free P word upstairs. Her name is Amy Siskin. Again, she's. glad that quote, "We have a highly. competent professional in charge, and. she wants Leticia James to interview all. 57 men on the Kaii group chat." She was. good enough to plaster their names on. social media. Reading from a Twitchy post here, the. cut off text reads, "Hold them all. accountable and the admins. 7 hours. 7.

hours. She didn't say they were guilty. She just named all 57 and said she wants. them all investigated during a rape. investigation and held accountable. Later, after she got dragged and. probably threatened by several of their. lawyers, she deleted the post. This is a. far-left activist who tried to make a. name for herself during Trump's first. term for creating the weekly list of his. creeping authoritarianism.

Um, you better be very very careful doing. something like that because a text that. goes out at 140 a snap in the morning. tends to hit most of its recipients when. they're asleep. Amy, so off in your assumption that they. all received it and did nothing. And in. fact, the evidence thus far is that at. least two of them went into the room and.

said, "We're shutting whatever the f. this is down right now.". Um, one was a participant. One we. believe was not, though he hasn't been. named, it was not shut down. it went on. past that point. But it is not true that. nobody did anything in response to that. text that that could have resembled. trying to stop it. Um the lynch mob around these these boys. is very dangerous.

I'm I'm genuinely worried. I'm worried. about. I'm worried about them. and I'm slightly worried about Jane Doe. too because I think what happened to. Jane Doe is she made a terrible decision. and then to deal with the shame of it. She made up a lie about being gang raped. and I think it probably feels very good. to see all these people speaking out in. her defense right now. But inside she. knows what she's doing. She knows it's. wrong. She's going to have to reconcile.

it with God, who also knows the truth. And honestly, it's it is the one thing. that has stopped me from naming her. I'm. I know her name. Um it's it's been well. publicized, but on on online, but no one in the mainstream media has. said it, and as you know, I've been. seriously considering just saying it. And the reason I haven't is because I. don't want to do anything to hurt this. young woman,

to get her hurt, or to add to the pain. I'm sure she's feeling. My real. complaint is that she doesn't get named. and the young men do. That's what I'm. pissed about. Why do we have a court system that. allows it? Why do we have a medium media. system that allows it? And therefore, I. haven't totally made my decision. I. haven't. But these are the. considerations I'm weighing. I have no. wish to. unleash a lynch mob on her. I think. she's a troubled young woman. These guys.

are nothing to write home about either. I don't purport otherwise. But that. what's being done to them now, threatening with decades of imprisonment. over what was clearly a consensual, if. disgusting, night at the Ki House is. deeply wrong. That's deeply wrong. morally. And you also have the celebrity class. told you about Florence Pew and others. last week. And now singer Olivia Rodrigo. takes to Instagram on Saturday and.

writes the following quote. Shame on. Cornell and every institution who. protects rapists and abusers over women. I stand with Jane Doe. I mean, good. lord. Her bravery reverberates across. the country and the crimes against her. will not go unpunished. Crimes. Olivia's. figured it out, folks. What she lived. through matters, and so does the failure. of those who could have intervened but. chose not to. She deserves answers, consequences, and lasting change. Olivia.

did not stop there, posting a list of. demands from an organization called Free. Form, which claims to be quote about. ending gender-based violence by building. economic freedom. Here's a list of. demands. Some of them not only include. accountability, justice, and repair. We. must also demand economic reparations. Colleges and universities need to. provide full scholarships for survivors. to complete their education. That. includes money for therapy and healing, new housing, and anything else they. need. And to top it all off, she posted. a story, Olivia did, about a Columbia.

University student who went to class. carrying a mattress on her back, claiming she had been raped on the. mattress. But that story is years old, and her alleged rapist was found not. responsible by the woke left-leaning. university that was dying to affirm the. findings of rape, but couldn't. And then. the woke leftist DA in New York declined. to bring charges. Olivia in some You. don't know what the you're talking. about. Shut up and stick to singing. I.

liked you better when you were in front. of a microphone singing your weird. little depressing songs. Shut up. You don't know what you're. talking about. It's better to keep your. mouth shut and let people suspect you're. an idiot than to open it and prove them. right. Ever hear that saying? It applies. to you, sweetheart. Be quiet. Go away. See you at the concert. Got it? It's just It's amazing. Adults are. talking. Okay, take your seat. We we. don't need the participation of no.

nothing morons who have been autotuned. into fame and suddenly think they have. something profound to say on the culture. wars. Sit down and be quiet. Got it? Or. I'm going to have to start pulling your. music and your lyrics and take a deep. dive into exactly the kind of messaging. that you are pushing on young women. because I guarantee it's not going to. end well for you. Olivia, be quiet. The adults are talking.

Um, the lynch mob jinned up. by people like Jane Do's lawyer, people like Olivia and others have gone. too far. You're you're shocked. But. here's an example of a male Tik Tocker. who's got thoughts in SAT 11. Put all. seven of them to death publicly. I'm not. kidding. The Cornell seven. No.

essay. How about you explain to me why. you should live? Why you should continue. to be on the earth? Seven Cornell. inhuman scum. Seven Cornell men, drugged. and raped a woman for seven. hours, advertising it to an entire group. chat. The seven that committed the act, death. Every single person that got that. message and did nothing, prison. expelled in prison and the punishment. was writing an essay.

How about they all explain to the public. why they should keep their. breath in their lungs. >> Okay, if you're going to do this bit, like you should really work on not. trying to look like a John Mayer wannabe. because you'll never be as cool as John. Mayer nor have as his good hair. Try. again. And honestly, if you're going to. contribute anything, try to make it at. least smart. In no in no state in the. union, sweetheart, is the death penalty. for even a terrible gang rape, as you.

seem to believe happened here, death. It's virtue signaling. And honestly, as. we've seen time and time again, those. who feel the need to virtue signal the. hardest tend to be the ones who have. something they're hiding. I love to get that guy's name and take a. look at his past. Trust me. Trust me. The ones who virtue. signal the very hardest in these. situations almost always turn out to.

have something on their conscious. conscience. What is it? Tell us all. You. won't tell us what it is, but you say a. lot when you try to do your super hard. virtue signaling. It's just really repulsive. There is a. lynch mob after these young men and they. haven't even been indicted. Okay. And. again, back to this lawyer. Oh, I'm sure there are more. Who? How. dare you? You're the same as Amy Ciskin. just casting this wide net. I'm sure.

there are. Who? That's so. irresponsible. Not even your client alleges that. What. your client says in that sound bite we. just heard is, and I quote, "I never. lie. I never lie. I'm 100% sure that I was at. a bar for a sorority event and I never. lie. Well, that's a problem for you, Jane Doe, because you're the one who. said nothing illegal happened. I. actually liked being with you, John.

Newell and Matt Engles. Uh, we're all. consenting adults here. It's true. I'm a. And people are going to have to. get used to this because attitudes about. sex and sexuality are changing. I guess. I'm just really open-minded. I love you, King. Not to mention, according to one. of the young men, reportedly said, "We're all consenting adults here. We're all consenting adults here.". But I never lie. Well, good. That's. going to actually serve the young men in. this case very, very well. I'm glad to.

hear you say that. I got it. I believe you. But your lawyer certainly seems to your. lawyer's making some very scurless. allegations which you know are not true. And when they're done on your behalf, my. dear, they're on you. And there will. come a day, if you see this through, when you will have to take the witness. stand. You will have to swear an oath on. the Bible and you will have to make. these claims under oath as God and a.

jury and a judge and a public watch you. that day better bring the truth or these. guys defense lawyers are going to eat. you alive. You will be torn to shreds with the. statements that you've made. I'm sorry. I'm not looking forward to it. I'm just. telling you as a lawyer, if I had the. chance to cross-examine you, it would be. absolutely brutal, unsparing, unpleasant.

for us both. But that's what you've done. because you admitted this was consensual. over and over and over again before you. did your 180. And yes, those admissions. matter and will sink your case. ultimately. I hope and pray because, you. know, a New York jury, who knows? But. they should. Uh, we're going to take a. short break. We're going to come back. with Heather McDonald and [music] her.

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you think this is something that hap I'm. asking you a lot of questions because. I'm so riled up about this. Do you think. that this is something that happens. often on your campus? >> Yeah, there have been studies every year. at Cornell. I know two years ago 20. around 25% of women students reported. unwanted sexual conduct in their four. years here. That went up to 35% last. year. So not only is this a consistent. problem, it's actually on the rise. And. you know, I think answering the question.

of if it feels safe at Cornell is is. really hard, but I think it feels sad to. be at Cornell. It feels frustrating to. be at Cornell. We feel anger here at. Cornell. >> Great. Welcome back to the Megan Kelly. Show. Joining me now, Heather McDonald. She's a fellow at the Manhattan. Institute and contributing editor at. City Journal. Heather, the lie. continues. They're pushing it on every. channel and in every publication. Something you have debunked.

dozens of times, but they will not. listen to facts. It's remarkable, Megan. We are watching the lie be constructed. in front of our eyes. They are shameless. about it. They are ignoring the evidence. on the record that proves that this was. a uh consensual. interaction. Uh Jane Doe herself gave numerous. testimony after the fact. And yet the.

narrative is being spun with all of. those statements completely excluded as. if she had never signed on to a uh a. police report that showed that this was. a consensual if completely sorted. interaction. Uh they're ignoring the. evidence that even the New York Times. posted where she was invited to a a. Halloween party back at the dorm where. she was allegedly gang raped and she was.

so happy to be invited she said, "Oh, I'll bring my sigs." And uh and then. >> she was eager eager to attend. They. reported. >> You know what? Nobody goes back and has. repeat interactions with his alleged her. alleged rapist. It does not happen. And. here's another thing, Megan. Colleges. know how to respond to rape. If there. had been an actual rape on Cornell. campus, the the university officials.

would have shut it down. They would have. sent out notices to every single. undergraduate that there was a rapist at. large and that they should walk uh, you. know, in in protective squads. They. shouldn't go out at night. None of that. happened because Cornell threw its army. of Title N investigators at this. incident. They recorded thousands of. hours of of testimony and Cornell.

reached the right conclusion the first. time around. This was not a rape. >> That's right. They we now know that they. expelled the most offensive Snapchat. posters uh Matt Ingles and Jonathan. Newell. Matt Ingles is the one who. invited her into the house who proposed. a threesome whose voice we now hear on. that ABC News clip which Jane Doe is too. delicate apparently to have her audio.

played. Um and John Newell is the one. who posted free Pword upstairs. Matt. Engles chimed in like you can go in and. whip it out and then appears to this. broke over the weekend have also posted. in the Snapchat thread um boys. come whip it out. Um so disgusting and. also they both did ketamine according to. the allegations at least and they both. wound up having sex with Jane Doe. So I.

think this combination of events got. those two expelled and the others. suspended for a long time. The. punishment wasn't like suspended for a. week, Heather. It was uh for a couple of. years, uh semesters, and then come back. and years on probation. So, I mean, Cornell did take it very seriously. Uh. the the men are not, however, in. shackles and imprisoned for the rest of. their lives. So, the mob is unhappy. accusing Cornell Cornell of being pro-. rapist. Well, if Cornell really believed.

that this was criminal rape, it should. have demanded that it be prosecuted. That's it's completely inexplicable. You. You would not. Again, I'm going to make. a very old-fashioned distinction, Megan, between stranger rape and so-called. acquaintance rape and having sex with. your classmates in a drunken drugfueled. haze. uh where they are constantly. asking is this okay and she says yeah.

that is not rape. uh and if if Cornell believed it was it. should have gone to the police and they. and she gave her report the Cornell. police signed on to it she signed on to. it she made corrections that was the. time uh when she was closest to the. event you know we're always told believe. survivors the question is when are we. supposed to believe survivors?

She her initial set of statements said. this was not criminal. She wrote back to. one of the participants and said, you. know, you and I know both none of what. we did none of what happened here was. was criminal acts. But we're not allowed. to believe that because the the rape. industry has this marvelous heads I win. till you lose logic where. >> Yes. If if a if a so-called puditive.

rape victim. denies that she was raped, that merely. means she was raped with all the more. vigor and and awfulness. It's only when. she says, "I was raped," when you. deserves belief. But otherwise, you it. becomes this it's unfalsifiable. You are not allowed to deny that you. have been raped. Um, and. >> yes, that's so exactly right. It is a.

heads, I win, tails, you lose situation. If they say rape from the beginning, the. rape industrial complex is thrilled. If. they say consent, consent to consent, they sick their little minions on you. who absorbed this stuff by osmosis. Like. the roommates who were like, "This was a. rape. It was a rape. It was a rape. Your. reputation's ruined." And then finally. they browbeat you into your 180 and then. they back you. They lovebomb you. Yes, you were raped. Say it over and over. again. >> Right. And it's not just that. It's that.

and you're absolutely right with all the. coercive pressure. It's that the very. fact that you're denying that there was. a rape is itself proof that there was a. rape. So there is. >> it's your drama. There is literally no. way to falsify. the rape allegation. >> You would think one of these guys would. have been kind of relieved to get some. of these text messages saying nothing.

illegal happened. I really enjoyed my. time with you guys. Um, I love you, King. Attitudes about sex and sexuality. And I think the blacked out word is. effing because it's was blacked out by. the news media and they've only been. blacking out the swears. um are. changing. But I guess I'm just really. open-minded. You know, the wanting to go back and. party, eager to party with her alleged. rapists weeks after the fact, what she. said to her Tridel uh big sister. People. are saying, "I'm a slut." Unfortunately,

with a laugh, it's true. Haha. I All of. this has to be treated as trauma, Heather. This is trauma. And what's so. infuriating is it is true that some. people who are brutalized some women who. get absolutely brutalized by a man will. try initially to defend it to to. normalize it so that they can in their. own mind say I haven't been raped. But I. I have never seen a situation where for. weeks on end they're yucking it up.

They're trying to get back together with. their rapists. They're telling everyone. who will listen that they're really just. a and they have evolved attitudes. on sex. On and on it goes. Then they. finally get to sit down with cops and. they don't describe anything approaching. a rape. Like this is just be it's. stretching the the bounds of empathy and. understanding from all of us who our. knee-jered instinct is neither to. believe women nor disbelieve them but. follow the facts. They're pushing us too.

far. Well, you know, the only happy news to. come out of this whole preposterous and. depressing event is the news that there. is still such a norm on campus c. campuses as promiscuity and being a. Who knew? You know, I thought the. whole purpose of the uh sexual. revolution was to completely. amoralize sex uh and anything goes. And.

it's encouraging actually that. when this behavior got out uh she was. accused they were there were the her. classmates were accusing her of being a. They weren't saying rape, they. were saying she was a And that. gave her pause and and decided and at. one point uh she said there was a text. message between her and one of the males. that said, "Boy, there's gang rape is.

going on at the Ki fraternity." And she. she wrote back with a set of excl uh. question marks again like why what is. this? Uh she's both upset that the news. is out but also uh presumably uh. expressing um disagreement that this was. some kind of rape going on. >> But in fact the idea of promiscuity on. is an extremely important one. Uh the.

male libido if you release it from. traditional norms of chivalry of sexual. propriety of protecting women. uh it will be extraordinarily crude and. gross and aggressive. Females and males. have different responses to sexual. intercourse. They have different desires. for sexual intercourse. And the idea of. female modesty and chastity, another.

completely taboo word these days, but. yes, chastity was an a a thing. It was a. norm and it was extremely important to. protecting women. those norms and a. marriage norm, the idea of you should. wait until you're married to have sexual. intercourse, those were all values that reflected a. society that was more reality based, that was more willing to to state the. truth about the male libido and its.

differences from the female libido. Uh, and if we could get back to that, those. norms rather than having this pretend. that males and females are exactly. identical in their sexual drives and. their responses, their emotional and. hormonal responses to intercourse. That. would do a a great deal to ending this. bakanol on campus uh that has no.

advantages. you know, these kids should. be at home staying, studying for their. exams rather than these incredible. drugfueled orgies. Uh, and both sides. come out very poorly. You know, if. females, this is no, if if this frat is. viewed as a rape. ground, as a place where women are. destroyed with the second most import. serious felony crime that is available,

and they keep trooping to the damn frat. house, walking into a crime situation. that is unknown across the globe. There. is no crime on earth that has a 20 to. 25%. incidence, which is what the New York. Times has today recycled this completely. phony statistic about one in five or or. one in four women will be sexually. assaulted. That is preposterous.

The Detroit's crime rate for all four. violent felonies. That's rape, murder, aggravated assault, and robbery is 2.4. for four violent felonies compared to. 25% for rape alone. But if the women. keep trooping there to this rape killing. ground, they don't deserve to be in. college. They're if they're too stupid. to protect themselves, maybe they. shouldn't be in college. But frankly, the males are idiots themselves because.

they should know by now they are in an. environment that is desperate to hang. them, that is desperate for any evidence. that we live in a patriarchal culture. and they will not get a fair shake from. these kangaroo courts that were set up. under Biden and Obama that gave no due. process rights. They should know. themselves for God's sakes. Act sensibly and and take your your the.

girl you're interested in out on a date, walk her home, kiss her good night, and. go to your own bed. Because otherwise, if you give in to your libido, you are. putting your college career at jeopardy. >> Yeah. They're now at the point where. they all have to do what I was told by a. source, unconfirmed, but it was a good. source. Derek Jeter did throughout his.

career with the Yankees, which was if. you showed up at his, again, unconfirmed. Sorry, Derek Jeter if this. isn't true. But you would show up at his. apartment, there'd be a guy standing. there with a videotape saying, "Are you. sober and here of your own valition? Yes, I am." And then on the way out, same thing. If it wasn't done by Jerick. Jeter, it should have been. This is the. point American men are at. You You've. got to get the consent on camera on the. way in and on the way out or next thing. you know, you're one of the Cornell.

seven, >> right? And and as we know that even that. won't work. Uh because the consent. they'll probably there'll be some. infinite regress where it's not just. after the fact, you know, they say it. was okay, but the consent itself will be. seen as a very proof of trauma of. trauma. So, you know, guys, here's the. solution. And yes, I remember when we. were really in the the height of the. campus rape frenzy in the 2000s and. early 2010s. I think there was. definitely talk of um of cameras and.

certainly consent forms. This is so. ludicrous. I mean the the university is. turning something that is primal, primeval, cathonic, irrational and then. they lay on top of it this incredible. series of consent rules as if this was a. you know a commercial paper transaction. in Renaissance Venice to carry about the. the silk trade. These are totally. illogical uh you know completely.

>> and 20 year olds who are like driven by. hormones and sometimes booze stand by. much more of the one and only Heather. McDonald right after this. You'll. continue that thought then we've all. heard those radio ads about owing money. to the IRS. They try to scare you and. push you into calling out of fear. But. Tax Relief Advocates takes a different. approach. If you owe the IRS five grand, 50 grand, or even 500 grand, TRA has. real solutions to fix your tax problem. They're not going to panic you, okay? Do.

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All right. The Cornell president, Michael Kotlov, who now is in a pretzel in his self. flagagillation attempts trying to verify. every one of the worst claims being made. about Cornell. [laughter]. as he apologizes to Jane Doe and all the. offended women nationwide. Here's a. sample in S four. >> What happened to Jane Doe in 2024 is.

deeply disturbing and will weigh heavily. on our community for years to come. My heart aches when I think of what she. experienced. We must do everything we. can to prevent what happened to Jane Doe. and everyone before her and anyone after. her from ever happening again. This is a. defining moment in Cornell's history. We. must lead the way. We owe it to Jane Doe.

and to survivors of assault to get this. right. And we must keep each other safe. Sounds like he's super open-minded to. letting the legal process play out in. the courts, Heather. >> Well, no, but here's what I love, Megan. If if he believes that, here's what you. do. You can prevent this 100%. Cornell. and every other college can stop the. alleged rape epidemic overnight by.

giving the following advice to females. Yes. We're going to empower females, ooh, to take care of their own safety. We're going to tell them, you do not. drink 10 drinks in two different bars. And as a young female, I don't know what. her body mass is, but you know, unless. she's massively obese, 10 drinks is a. lot of alcohol. You do not go then and. have a beer at the frat. And when you're. offered ketamine, you go. >> at 11 o'clock at night.

>> Yeah. So, so here's how you avoid. getting raped. You don't get drunk. You don't get into. bed with a guy you may or may not know. You don't take your clothes off. You go. to a party, you dance, and you insist. that you be walked home safely at night. That would stop the campus rape epidemic. overnight. And when I have asked these. overpaid. uh living off the fat of taxpayer.

tuition dollars, Title N investigators, why don't you send a message of personal. responsibility to females? If you. believe that there is this epidemic of. the second most awful felony that a. female can experience in her life going. on, why don't you tell females how they. can avoid it? And they will always. respond, these Title N investigators.

that present themselves as the guardians. of female safety, they would always say, "We would never do that because rape is. never a woman's fault." Well, who cares? If you really believe this is rape, the. most important thing is prevention. As. the president just said, we want to. prevent this from happening. Here's how. you do it. Because all of these. encounters are completely predictable. They are within the volition of the.

female. Is this putting too much. pressure on the females to guard. themselves? But I thought we were for. strong females. In fact, the whole. system that we've worked into is this. bizarre recreation of the Shiovalick. episode because we hold the females. completely irresponsible. They they have. no agency and the males are responsible. for female safety. They're they may be. just as drunk as the female is both.

voluntarily, but only the male is responsible for. both himself and for the female. The. females are just helpless virgin. victims. >> And then we carry it forward. The. females who may or may not have been. raped, >> right, >> get to file in the courts anonymously, but the males get named and instantly. found guilty. Then the media has an. unwritten policy, unofficial policy of.

not naming alleged rape victims because. they don't want to add to her trauma. But they're happy to report the names of. the accused because no one cares about. their trauma. I'll tell you, Heather, I'm really having a difficult time with. it. You know, I I have confirmed this. young woman's name from actual credible. sources, not the online trolls who are. out there pushing it, and I've been very. much wrestling with should I just say. it? I don't answer to a news.

organization now. I answer to myself. I've I'm on the fence because I don't. want any harm to come to her, additional. harm. You know, I'm not trying to add a. storm to her life in addition to. the one she's created for herself. But I. watch these guys twisting in the wind. and think that's not fair. And I also. think not saying it is a perpetuation of. the dynamic that you are speaking about, right? treating women as the fairer sex, as needing this protection. Even if she.

is a real rape victim, then she's a victim who deserves. empathy. We Why do we put her like we we. were protecting identities because it. was like, "Oh, the scorn of rape." Well, what do you mean? The the modern. feminist should be saying there is zero. scorn on the victim. There is nothing. wrong with saying her name. >> Well, it's a war on men. And I would I I. I sympathize with your dilemma. I'm not. sure how I would come out. I you know,

I'd get consult everybody in sight. because my initial instinct is hell yes, reveal her name. Uh because this is just. it's sickening what's going to happen. We're we're looking at another Derek. Schovin possibility of a of a absolutely. heart-wrenching miscarriage of justice. Um but to have that all on your. shoulders would be extremely difficult. It's too bad there can't be some sort of. agreement among the press to to. everybody to name her because as you. say, it's a it's an totally unlevel.

playing field. But this whole campus. rape epidemic is just another way to. marginalize men. Uh and and another. statistic that just shows how totally. ludicrous this entire narrative is. uh. the proportion of females in elite. colleges or colleges generally keeps. going up and up and up and up. Cornell. was under 50% female in uh 20 25 2005.

>> 20 years later it's nearly 54% female. and and males are being disappeared. Uh, another sign that females are possibly. too stupid to even belong in college if. they keep trooping in beating down the. doors to be admitted to schools where. they are allegedly in this complete rape. killing fields. Um, so the real purpose.

this is not female safety because. females there's no more safe spot uh in. America, let's face it, than a college. campus. the the actual uh uh crime rates. on college campuses is very low, including rape. Um but we're all. supposed to pretend that, you know, it's. this it's this traumatic situation. Well, females and their mothers should. be demanding single sex schools where. they can learn in safety. If this is. really what's going on, what's really.

going on is just another way to push men. out of civilization. Uh it's the vengeance of the of the. powerless the vengeance of people who. have not accomplished and the only thing. they can do is tear things down. Yes. Yes. who want to live in this. patriarchy where men like the Cornell 7. have an obligation to protect the woman. who's saying we're all consenting adults.

here from the consequences of her own. choices have an obligation to be. chivalous have an obligation to look out. for her not themselves even if she's. saying I want you and I want this to say. no but then those same men um cannot be. patriarchal in any other aspect of. American life whatsoever. They're even. told now to open a door for a woman is a.

sex a sexist act that is somehow. treating her as less than. So you could. forgive the men of America if they have. zero idea what's actually expected of. them. I mean truly you you've got this. woman we talked on Friday about this. Alex Earl not Alex Earl um Alex Cooper. who is the head of this podcast network. and she call she hosts the call her. daddy podcast all of her messaging and I. have no idea whether this Jane Doe. listens to Alex Cooper but all of her. messaging is go for anal on the first.

date yeah if that's what you want go for. it kiss everybody have sex with them all. on the first date do your thing girl. that's her message of empowerment And. look, these guys are at the Cornell Fi. Ki House, Heather. I think there's a a. real possibility. They were like, "There's one of those upstairs in the. alumni room." Like when they received. the message, free P-word. Sure, they. were curious. What the hell does that.

mean? And went up there to take a look. And what did they find? Not some girl. crying, you know, saying help me. But a. girl who in some instances was under the. covers, but then according to the two. defendants who came after that message. were actually pulled over to her by her, that she was the initiator of the sex. and that she at that point, it was later. in the evening that she said, "We're all. just consenting adults here. It's fine.". And then allegedly made the comment of, "In medieval times, this was normal.".

And then after the fact when we know she. was sober was making all the comments. about how sex and sexuality and effing. are just changing. You know, I'm just. really open-minded. Love you, King. Like, why why is it so implausible to. the university president and others that. they believed and that they in fact had. an Alex Cooper type disciple upstairs? >> Well, colleges again are totally. hypocritical. They pursue two different. narratives. Simultaneously,

on the one hand, you've got all the. college sex weeks, and I'm sure Cornell. has them, which is promoting female. sexual empowerment, you know, and. handing out instruction sheets on how to. maximize your orgasm. Uh, and, uh, you. know, is is completely unwilling to send. any message of sexual modesty and. restraint uh, and abstinence. And then. they've at the right next door, you've.

got the whole campus rape uh uh. industrial complex that is dedicated to. the idea that that consensual sex should. be viewed as rape. Uh and and the. females are these these helpless. virgins. Now, I think we're maybe of. different generations. Megan, you're. slightly you're more on the feminist. scale than I am. I am not at all. offended by the idea that males should. be the uh guardians of females. I I.

think. >> I'm not offended by it either. No, I'm. with you. >> Yeah, I want that. That's how I'm. raising my boys. >> Right. There are there are documented. differences in frankly rationality. There's obviously in exceptions on on. all sides. Uh but the averages are. different. Um and and again the. females are the weaker sex. If you just. want to look at at physical capacity,

men could we could live in an actual. rape culture. They have the strength to. do that. And it is norms that prevent. that. And what prevents that is telling. males that they are should treat females. with care with respect based on a. fundamental understanding of the. differences between males and females. The 1960s it gets very tiresome to.

repeat this but sadly it's a truth. And. so you know you you got to sort of say. okay I got to repeat the truth again. The 60s got everything wrong and the. rise of the flower power liberation, sexual liberation when you had for the. first time in history adolescence that. were so culture had gotten America had. gotten so wealthy that that adolescence. had spending power for the first time. and they became empowered and they. started rewriting the rules and saying. we're going to have maximal lust,

unchaned lust uh and and maximum. freedom. and men and women are going to be. absolutely identical in all things. That. was profoundly ignorant about human. nature. It threw aside thousands of. years of collective wisdom on the part. of civilization that understood profound. differences between the male and female. psyches, between the male and female. libidos. Uh and we've since then we.

really haven't recovered. As I say, the. only positive sign of this is that the. concept of still exists. And that's. a very useful concept to keep a hold of. >> Indeed. No, I my I married such a. chivalous man and he and I are raising. two chivalous men. And I have a. daughter, too. And what I Here's here's. a split that's very interesting, Heather. We have our boys at an all boys.

school and our daughter at an all girls. school and our all boys school this. morning sent out a letter about to all. the parents about this case. >> and I found it generally unobjectionable. because we're not at a woke school and. the the school the messaging was. basically this is a good opportunity to. remind our boys as we always do to. behave with honor and decency and. respect right. >> and the importance of consent and it was. not throwing the Cornell 7 under the bus. at all. And I agreed with all those.

things that we're also raising the boys. to think that. But did we get a similar. note from our girl school saying we are. reminding our girls to behave in their. lives with honor and to respect consent. and dare I say chastity or something. approaching just selfrespect when it. comes to human sexuality. I mean truly. we're not going to get that letter. If. anything, well, they're probably. teaching them about how evil the boys.

are and how this is what can happen, you. know, like these evil boys are out there. and you better watch out for them as. opposed to No, I mean, we sat down with. all three of our kids and talked about. this case in a way that was very. objective on the facts and our kids had. the same takeaways that you and I have. had here. Personal responsibility for. all involved, >> right? And you know, if we really want. to go out on the limb and and brand. ourselves as as Neanderthalss, you can. also just question the whole culture of. consent,

uh, which says that anything goes. There's no, you can't make moral. judgments about any behavior as long as. there's consent. And I'm enough of a. product of of modern times that, yeah, okay, I I could probably go along with. that. On the other hand, here's another. possibility that there's some behaviors. that you can consent to all you want and. they're still depraved. Uh they're still. a violation of human dignity.

>> and they're going to have emotional. consequences that you should probably. avoid. And arguably, uh this type of group sex is one of. those. You and I agree and the record is. absolutely clear that this was. consensual. Uh and the district attorney. who's now being vilified, he was a noble. man. He he took this case seriously and. he made the right judgment. And as you. said last week, it's a tragedy that he.

is being railroaded into reopening it. And now it's even more of a tragedy as. you said last week uh that Leticia James. has taken over with her clear prejudice. in advance. Um but but again you know. this is something that we could all. avoid. uh by realizing that there there is a. virtue to sexual modesty. uh before marriage and that we have the.

power to enforce those norms and people. have the power to avoid situations that. are then going to just be fed in as more. fodder into the whole anti-male complex. which has now taken over the entire. West. >> Yeah. I I really think, you know, maybe I should just be doing a hard push. for no sex before marriage, which is. what my church would say. But my own.

realistic I think more realistic ask is. don't don't have sex with somebody. you're not in love with. >> Like be in a a loving relationship with. a person and this won't happen to you. It really won't. like I mean some crazed. woman who's like in a custody battle. sometimes accuses a husband of this but. the the 99% of the times if you are in a. loving relationship where the both of. you are love loving and committed to one. another this won't happen to you it's. not that hard and certainly don't be.

having sex with a stranger which is what. she did right she the the guy it's. undisputed you heard it on the ABC phone. call do how about a threesome and you. said yes and she said in writing I. really enjoyed that my time with you and. John Jonathan Newell, this guy. So, like. she or Jonathan was the one she was. writing to. She said, "You and Matt. really enjoyed that one." So, it's like, "All right, don't have sex with. strangers. You're everyone involved is. setting themselves up for a disaster.". Um, and in indeed the disaster is here. Now, on the issue of the numbers,

I played the sound of the Cornell. University student claiming that the. stats are up at 35%. We actually looked. Cornell sent out a survey to its own. students and it was in 2025 so it was. before all this. Uh and apparently. almost nobody filled it out. There was. like very little interest. If this is. such a big problem, Heather, they. weren't exactly running to fill out the. survey. Uh they sent out they said uh. let's see thousands of us 6,000 to the.

undergraduate, graduate, and. professional students at Cornell. Um, they had 926. responses. Only 757 actually failed out. more than one question. Okay, [laughter]. so I'm getting the feeling it's not the. epidemic Cornell would have us believe, but still the headline is that 30, this. is ABC reporting, 35% of Cornell. undergraduate women reported having been. sexually assaulted. And then we get this. from same university president who.

cannot stop himself again. Michael. Kodakov with the virtue signaling that. he's going to lead the rape reform even. though there's allegedly a 35% rape rate. at Cornell. Watch. >> We also need to be the author of our own. future as an institution. At the. appropriate time, we will speak in. greater detail about how Cornell will. use this moment, this conversation, this.

anger to help lead the broader effort to. combat sexual assault, not only on our. campus, but beyond it. Cornell has extraordinary resources and. expertise. We will bring them to bear, building respect for each other as human. beings, understanding the factors that. lead to this behavior and the. interventions that mitigate it. >> They're going to lead the broader effort. against sexual assault. Heather,

>> well, what more can they do? I mean, this actually also gives me hope because. there's nothing more they can do. They've already got the apparatus. They've already got the the counselors. and you know all these schools have set. up these rape crisis hotlines and it's. the exact same thing as the as the. survey here. Nobody calls them you know. like waiting and saying please call it I. want to hear about a rape and nobody. calls them because the students have a. little core of of of connection to. reality despite the efforts of the. indust the education complex to sever.

them completely from reality. But if he. wants to take a next step and prevent. this alleged tsunami of rape, here's. another rule like have chaperones at the. parties. Uh really enforce drinking. rules and and make people come in and. and and sign in and sign out of their. dorms. No visiting. You know, again, we. had same rules. We had rules that said. no males in a female dorm and vice versa.

because we were sane about the male. libido and we've forgotten about that or. we're saying well the female libido is. just as as voracious. It is not. Um so I. don't know what remains to Cornell or. any other university because they have. >> they they can go single sex. >> Exactly. They have bure bureaucratized. this up the wazoo. Um and you know I'd. also like to know the details of that. survey because the way the general. number uh was the first time we that.

came out Miz magazine published this. survey from a Arizona uh state. university researcher Mary C that came. up with the one in4 statistic that was. so shocking and the way she did it she. found that if you ask females directly. were you raped uh they say no and so. what she said well I'm going to ask a. series of questions did this happen? Did. this happen? Did this happen? And I will. then reassemble the description of the.

event to come up with rape. And that's. how she got the number. Well, then if. you go back and ask the females that she. classified as rape victims, were you. raped? 73% said, "No, I wasn't." And. about 45%. went back and had sex again with the. people that CSL classified as their. rapists. Again, this is inconceivable. Here's a rape. Uh I write about Temple. University Edwin one. A guy, a criminal.

breaks into your room at night. You've. never seen him in your life. He's from. the city. He's from the streets. He. holds a knife at your throat and he. rapes you. And you're telling me that in. in the 43% of females that experience. that are going to go have sex with that. guy again? Of course not. Um so I would. love to know. Even Even Heather, I I'll. take it one step closer to where the. feminist would argue it. Even you have a. guy, you're on the first date, you go.

back to his house, his dorm with him. You're fooling around on the couch, but. you don't want sex. So, you fool around. a little. He's pushing for sex. You say. no. He puts his hand over your mouth. He. holds you down. He pulls down your. pants, your underwear, and he forcibly. penetrates you. That's rape. That's what. we would call date rape or acquaintance. rape. >> You would never go see him again. There. would not be a second trip back to his. dorm. Every woman on earth knows this.

But this young woman, I really enjoyed. my time. I'm eager to return to all of. these guys at the Kai Fi House. Let me. read you what we know about the. questionnaire. Um, we couldn't find the. actual questions. They weren't. available. But regarding the 35%. non-consensual sexual contact stat which. is now blown up into 35% of the women at. Cornell have been raped. >> uh is as follows. Student were asked. about their direct experiences with.

non-consensual sexual contact while at. Cornell. This contact was defined as. starts off well including penetration. vaginal or anal penetration or oral. contact including attempted acts. involving physical force. Also kissing and/or sexual touching. Kissing, touching someone's breast, chest, crotch, groin, or buttocks. Grabbing, groping, or rubbing against. the other in a sexual way and/or choking. or strangulation. Okay, that middle.

stint there describes pretty much every. night of my cocktail waitressing. experience in college. I like, good luck. not having somebody rub up against you. in the crowded college bar while they're. trying to get a drink. Half of it more. is completely inadvertent. The other. half may be a drunken attempted to come. on. Most women roll their eyes and keep. walking. Now it's categorized into the. rape stats that should make you run from. Cornell because more than onethird of. the populace there has been raped.

According to the young co-ed we heard, >> well, it's not just behavior in a. drunken bar. It's male behavior, period. They are the aggressors. They're sexual. aggressors. And unless there's either a very strong. social norm to say you don't do that or. a female who is absolutely saying this. is not acceptable. Uh that's going to. happen. They're trying to figure out. they're they have a goal. You know, we. know what that goal is. Uh and unless.

they're getting very strong signals, they're going to pursue it. Now again, this gets to the absurdity of overlaying. uh this bizarre legal code onto. something that is the most primeval of. all instincts. It is true that if you're. a female in that situation and a male is. being sexually aggressive with you, you. can feel embarrassed. You can feel ambivalent. you can feel, well, I don't want to acknowledge that.

this is going on in order to say no. because you're in a a nonverbal realm of. of of messages in in either direction. >> And so, females, you're you're you're. inhibited in that situation. You're. embarrassed. That's why we had bright. line rules. Don't get in this situation. And I would say in response to your uh. you know theoretical rule of don't have.

sex unless you're in love with somebody. that's also not quite bright linish. about because a lot of girls may be. thinking wisfully wishfully uh oh I'm. really in love with this person and yet. >> even this girl texted I love you king. >> right and there's been no commitment and. then the guy you know you see him the. next day and uh he's chatting with his. fellow bo male friends and he doesn't. have that emotional hormonal pang that.

females have after kitis. It that it. creates a completely different emotional. bond with their sex partner than males. do. And and so that's when they're going. to regret it and and think, gee, you. know, this was a terrible interaction. The easiest rule is a very bright line. rule, but I agree it's going to be it's. impossible to go back to at this point. Just wait, you know, wait until you. really know you're in love because. you've gotten married.

>> and you I mean, at a minimum, you know, you're exclusive to each other, you're. committed to each other. Like, it. shouldn't be it shouldn't be ambiguous. There's a way of making it non. ambiguous. Now, there are some nutcases. on the far-left feminist sect who are. blaming this whole thing, wait for it, >> on Trump. [laughter]. >> Why didn't I see that coming? Oh, I'm so. unimaginative. >> Oh my god. >> Wait, you must be off your game today, Heather. Come on. You knew you knew. that's where the this would land. Let me.

give you two examples. So, there's this. one woman named Sandy Basham. She's a. New York-based independent video. journalist or so she says. She filmed. Occupy Wall Street, Charlottesville, Unite the Right rally in January 6th, other events that she could use to tar. right wingers as evil. And um she posted. to X the following video and then I will. give you the explanation for her video. Uh here it is. S 12. PATRIARCHY IS OUR.

JUDGE. THAT IMPRISONS US AT birth. and our [laughter] punishment. IS A VIOLENCE. YOU CAN SEE. IT'S. IMPUNITY. OKAY, you get the gist.

No, I don't. Please, please explain what. what in the world was I seeing there. Was that was that a protest about this. Cornell case? >> No. So it was a protest cover for from. those covering the Harvey Weinstein. trial that the videographer re-uped. right now in honor of Jane Doe. And. obviously what has happened to her as. she covers it uh covers it and uh says. that she she when this happened the.

first time she turned around at the. Harvey Weinstein trial and started. crying and now they're saying she says. two years ago seven members of a Cornell. fraternity raped a 20-year-old woman for. 7 hours with no accountability. It's. been 10 years since grab them by the. pword to now the Cornell free pword. upstairs with 57 young men. These boys. were 10 years old when they first heard. this. And then the Epstein case broke. We are teaching a generation. They can.

do this with impunity. And she's not the only one. Here's the. New York Times Michelle Coddle on ABC. this week. Watch. >> It's a fundamental disrespect for women. You can't send those messages, no matter. how drunk you are as a frat boy, without. having some kind of misunderstanding. about what women are there for and. whether this is a real person you're. dealing with. And that I think starts, you know, we can go to the president for.

this one. I mean, we are in a moment in. this culture where the glorification of. being thuggish and swaggering and. mistreating women is kind of making you. a cool kid. >> It's Trump's fault. I mean, males, just walk away. I, you. know, males, be smart. Don't get. yourself in these situations because. you're dealing with a bunch of. hysterical females that cannot be. trusted to be able to reason logically.

uh and hold, you know, the consequences. of certain claims about female. empowerment and then female victimhood. None of it makes sense. the the whole. campus rape uh alleged epidemic began in. the 2000s under President Obama. Uh, and. you know, that's why we got rid of any. any shred of due process on campus. because the the the feminist harpies.

were saying, "Well, we're not convicting. enough males. So, we're not going to. allow males in these tribunals to to. confront their accuser because allegedly. females are so so delicate that if they. see their alleged rapist in court and he. asks them questions, they'll just melt. away completely. So, we're going to. throw out 500 years of probably the most. great evolution of civilizational. accomplishment in human history, which.

are the rules of due process, of. cross-examination, of being able to. confront your accuser. All these rules. were thrown out under Obama because the. alleged campus rape epidemic was was. this great. So, this is a completely. phony history. uh and and females are. being. liberated from any expectation of. rationality and and males again don't. allow yourself don't walk into the trap.

If females can't be counted on at this. point to exercise the most basic level. of self-p protection of not going to. those frat parties, not drinking. themselves blotto, which they do. precisely in order to lower their sexual. inhibitions because they're told that, you know, they've got to be mono ammono. with males and their sex drive. For the. males, be the smart, you know, live up to what. we think you should be. be the smart.

ones and just get do not walk into this. trap because the trap is being set for. you. >> Yeah. You just ask the Cornell 7, ask. any of the men who have been dragged. through Obama's drag net for the past 15. years whose lives were ruined with no. evidence. And when evidence came out. completely exonerating the men, the. universities were impervious to it. They. didn't want to hear it. They didn't. care. They were happy to let the guys.

hang. I mean, it was just it's been a. very rough 15 years for men on college. campuses thanks to Barack Obama. 100%. Heather, thank you for speaking truth. You are one of my north stars. I'm just. so grateful for you and your voice. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. It's been great. Megan, I love talking to you. >> Oh god, Heather McDonald. We're so lucky. to have her. Listen to anything she. says. Read everything she writes. You. will be so enriched for the experience. Um, okay. We'll be back in a minute. You.

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happening with one of my favorite films. and maybe one of your favorite films or. stories, too. Sense and Sensibility, of. course, by Jane Austin. The great movie. back in 2002, was it? Oh, no, it was. 1995, actually. um directed by Ang Lee, starring Emma Thompson and Kate Winslett. was, you know, second to none. It was. such a great cinematic experience and. it's going to be very tough to redo it. Anyway, uh Hugh Grant, there just a a. cast of standouts there. Hugh Lori and.

that is actually who I want to talk to. you about. Hugh Lori as Mr. Palmer in. the Angley version of the Jane Austin. classic written in 1811. Hugh Lori. played Mr. Palmer, who was married to a. very obnoxious, shrill woman. And they. happened to host Miss Maryanne, played. by Kate Winslett, when she was in a. moment of distress, stressed out by the.

collapse of her relationship with one of. the stars of the story, Mr. Willoughby. She basically made herself, literally. made herself sick over the fact that. something catastrophic happened in their. relationship. read the book, watch the. movie. In any event, Hugh Lori played. this role, which is not a major part, but it's people who've seen the movie or. read the book know who I'm talking. about. Um, and Hugh Lori of House Fame. played the part to perfection. He's. irrassable. He's sarcastic.

He's kind of not likable until Miss. Maryanne, Kate Winslet, goes into. distress and then he comes through and. you you soften on him a bit. But here's. just a a little reminder of how Hugh. Lori played this the uh the character of. Mr. Palmer. [laughter]. >> Oh, if only this rain would stop. >> Only you would stop. [laughter]. >> It was you took her off my hands, Mr.

Palmer. And a very good bargain you made. of it, too. And now I have the whip hand. over you. For you cannot keep her back. >> Mr. Dashwood, if only Mr. Willoughby had. gone home to Kum Magna, we could have. taken Miss Marian to see if we live at. half a mile away. >> Five and a half. >> No, I cannot believe it is that far. You. can see the place in the proper bio. Is. it really five and a half? No, I cannot. believe it. >> Try.

>> Well, I was excited for the new reboot. I don't feel about Sense of Sensibility. the way I do about Willy Wonka, where I. will never see a reboot. Um, and I. actually even texted it to Doug saying, "Hey, this is coming up. Let's go see. this." And then I heard this. The part. of Mr. Palmer will not be played by a. mister. It's going to be played by a trans. actor, female to male. And it's the Nepo. baby of Sting and Trudy Styler, who goes.

by they them. Uh, and it's 36-year-old. Elliot Sumner, who is really not an. Elliot. Probably an Ellie by the birth. name. Who knows? But this is a girl. It's a woman. This is a woman who they. cast to play a male role as a they them. in 1811 England. What the f?

And the here's what Spiked wrote about. it. A non-binary Nepo baby has ruined. the new sense and sensibility. They. write, "It's not just her high-pitched. voice that's the problem. As soon as her. face filled the screen," writes the. author, "I was distracted by how pretty. she was." Now, this it's a man. She has. fine, delicate features that even the. most handsome male actor could never. hope to match. Here's a bit of the actor.

Elliot Sumner, Nepo baby of Sting and. Trudy Styler, right? Do we have it from the movie? Is. that what we have? Just looking. No, we. don't. We just have a full screen. picture. Is that all we have? No. Too. bad. So, we will not be able to play the. actual voice for you, unfortunately. But. I will tell you what we have, which is. the name of the director of this reboot, and it's Georgia Oakley. Georgia Oakley. is a Brit. Georgia Oakley directed.

uh as her debut now I got I got to say. Georgia looks a little they them to me. Uh she directed her debut film in uh is. it blue seas blue seam which follows a. closeted fizzed teacher navigating uh. through life under Margaret Thatcher's. homophobic legislation in England. We do. have a clip of that do we not?

>> Yep. Here it is. So that's. >> you do realize that the filot tellies. were this just here to distract us from. what's really going on. Not everything. is political. >> Of course it is. >> Here at home there's been another big. demonstration against clause 28 which. seeks to stop councils from promoting. homosexuality. >> I've been saying this is a good idea for. years. Young people have such vulnerable. minds. >> What's wrong? You [music] look stressed. >> I don't want my students on every part.

of me life. >> Every part of your life. If anyone found out, I'd never work. again. >> The gay and lesbian lifestyle is not. natural or normal, and it never will be. >> What I don't get is how two girls are. actually Just ignore them. Sorry, you. dead. I'm not talking about me. >> What kind of example are you setting for. her? Just cuz I don't parade my. sexuality around, like a badge of honor. >> How was that girl ever going to learn. that she has a place in this world? >> Think she has a place in this world. >> You're the one with the problem, not me.

>> This isn't a game, Lois. It's me life. >> Okay, so that was Blue Jean, her. directorial debut. And Georgia really. wants you to know she's queer. Okay, she's queer, folks. And that. representation is super important to. her. She's a British woman who's uh. known for championing fresh, diverse. voices. And then we are told this in an. interview she gave to The Mirror in. 2023. Representation is vital. So many. queer people I know can trace their.

journey of self-discovery back to a film. or TV show they watched when they were a. teenager, but there's been so little. representation of queer women. When I. was growing up, there was a complete. lack of queer role models on screen. And. I was particularly aware of never having. seen a lesbian relationship that spoke. to my own experience. Tell it to Oprah. I wanted to see a. couple who are very much in love sitting. on a sofa watching TV in their. tracksuits and having a laugh. I think. it's important for audiences to see that. because that's the reality for so many.

of us. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Okay. The fact that we live in a world. where white heteronormativity is seen as. the norm means that anyone who just sits. outside of that will will be able to. relate to Jean's journey in this film, Blue Jean. So, this is the woman who. cast a woman as Mr. Palmer in an 1811. story about. uh the ladies in sense and sensibility. It is outrageous. It is ridiculous and.

it is offensive. I'm I'm just so sick of. this Aren't you so sick of this. God. God. Just so sick of it. Sick. of the nonsense. Okay, let's keep going. Um unfortunately, we had a story about. All right. Wait, stand by. Where is this. one? This poor guy who got hired as an. announcer for this sports team. Okay, stand by. Oh my god, where is it? I have so many.

good stories for you and I can see the. clock. I'm running out of time. I might. have to carry over a little bit today. because I've just got to get to this. Uh, okay. Page four. My team's talking in my my. ear. Oh, the Trailblazers. Yes, that's. why I got conf confused. the Portland. Trailblazers. I have no idea who that. is. Uh but they hired a new playby-play. announcer. And the same day they hired. him, some intrepid local reporter. uncovered archived tweets that this guy.

sent out when he was 15 years old, which. is 14 years ago. He's 29 now. This is. the entirety of the tweets. I'm not. racist at all, but not going to lie, Asian people piss me off. Haha. Honest. That's him. Hashonest. Uh, November 30th, 2012. Got to give a. shout out to all the big girls out there. and those closet [laughter].

Come on. This is kind of funny. February. 13th, 2013. We got a alert on. Isisle 10. I mean, who who's to say? We. don't know what he was looking at. February 24th, 2013. Girls these nights. SMH. What does that stand for again? Shaking my head. #thirsty for the D. [laughter].

of for this this guy Braden Bell got. fired. This is so ridiculous. He did. He. got fired instantly. Thanks to the. intrepid reporter who uncovered his. highly offensive tweets. The. Trailblazers would like us to know that. they have zero tolerance for racist, sexist, or harmful comments. Uh, it's in. clear violation of team and league. policies as well as our values and. expectations. Therefore, we will not be. moving forward with this broadcaster. The playbyplay role carries a long. legacy of excellence on the broadcast. and in character, and we hold that.

standard without exception, writes. Belle, apologizing online, the. perpetrator here on X. Um, I'm deeply. sorry for the language I used on. Twitter. These tweets, while wrong, were. written by me 14 years ago while I was. only 15. I have no they have no. reflection of who I am today. I do not. take lightly any harm it caused now. This won't help you, sir. I'm. apologizing anybody hurt by my words. Blah blah blah blah blah. This is. absurd. Absurd. And can I tell you, I've been. thinking about this in connection with. the Cornell case. I didn't see any gang.

rapes at Syracuse, thank God, or gang. bangs or threesomes or anything like. that. But it was the '8s and into '90s. and there was definitely a lot of coarse. talk like apppropo of that Snapchat. discussion whatever you want to how you. want to refer to it that those guys were. having. I mean, very vile, crude talk. that I remember at fraternity parties, at regular parties, you know, just. around college age men. And it wasn't.

great. It was, you know, I would say. back then we just rolled our eyes and. moved along. And the guys themselves, for the record, who would speak like. that from time to time, I can testify. to, were not all bad. I actually knew a. lot of them and became friends with a. lot of them. They were just moronic. young guys who got caught up in a. culture of like, you know, testosterone. and bro talk. It didn't mean anything. It really didn't. And I feel bad in a. way when we are, you know, completely.

castigating these guys for having the. stupid ass decision-m to put those same. kinds of comments down in writing. I. don't think those boys really wanted a. gang rape or even a gang bang up there. for all these guys to go up there and. actually to just whip it out. I really I. don't I don't think that I think they. behave like idiots and wrote down a. bunch of drunken comments that are now. coming back to haunt them. And. unfortunately, all of our kids in. today's day and age are growing up in a. time when all of their moronic thoughts.

are posted online and will come back to. haunt them. It's both their uh. potentially their downfall and their. protection against a downfall because. everybody's posting their whole lives. In any event, this poor kid does not. deserve to to lose his job at age 29 for. stuff he tweeted out when he was 15, which wasn't even that like maybe there. was some Asian in his life pissing him. off. I'll bet my Asian friends don't do. not give a about this at all. Come. on, lighten up, trailblazers. Of course, it's Portland, so what are you going to.

do? Um, all right. I actually will. I'm. going to save the rest because we got to. run. And um I don't have enough time to. get into it. I want to tell you that I. am going to be off tomorrow. I am going. to see somebody I love very much who I. haven't seen in a while. And uh I'm. taking the day to go be with that. person. But coming up later this week, we're going to have James Woods. We're. going to have our pals from National. Review who have been writing great. pieces about the Cornell 7 and. everything. Uh the midterms are coming.

up and the news is looking a little. scary. There actually was a very. interesting New York Times podcast today. outlining how the Democrats are doing. better in red states you would never. expect to go their way like Ohio, Texas, and Kansas. And they're doing worse in. certain blue states like Maine and. Michigan. where you would expect them to. do well. So, God only knows what's going. to happen in these midterms. We'll talk. about it with NR. And Matt Taibbe joins. us a bit later this week as well. See. you then.

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