Talarico is MISSING, and Ari Emanuel on Secrets of Hollywood, the Value of "Rage," and Meghan Markle
Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly show and happy. Friday. Oh, we have a good show for you. today. I'm really looking forward to our. second hour when Hollywood super agent. Arimmanuel will be here to talk about. his new book and he's naming names. He. and I have our own history which will be. fun to talk about. And the his new book. is a page turner. Uh he if you know. anything about the show Entourage then. and Ari Gold as the character is named.
there that's Ari Emanuel. Um the f-word. is every other word but he uses it to. great effect. He makes no apologies for. who he is. He is a tough as nails. Hollywood agent. Super agent is correct. in a town where everyone's operating. under kill or be killed and he's a. killer. So, it is going to be really. interesting to talk to him about what's. in his book, how he got to the top. And. there's a surprising side to Ari that.
you may not know about if you know. anything about him, which is there's. there's actually a piece of him that. struggled mightily. We'll tell you how. and why. And the lessons he's learned. from that struggle is something he wants. to share with you. So, that's next hour. Plus, there are new texts in the Cornell. 8 case that are going to make Jane Do's. claim that she did not consent to the. group sex impossible. I'm sorry. It's. it's imp like By the way, if you missed. the episode the other day, it's the.
Cornell 8 because she too has been. accused of sexual assault and the. allegations against her are far more. credible. Far more credible. Defendant. number one is alleging that she was. felating him while he was completely. unconscious, passed out in and out of. consciousness and she appears to. acknowledge. that he was completely blitzed out of. his mind on that on the interludes she. had with him. So why was she fooling. around with him? The left standard is.
you cannot consent when you are blott. whether you chose to ingest the drugs. and alcohol or not. I'll go with it. That's Jane Doe's preferred uh standard, too. If that's the preferred standard, then she is the Cornell 8. She's number. eight, the eighth person at Cornell. accused of a sexual assault. Only the. allegations against her appear to be the. most credible of them all. We'll tell. you about the texts. Don't miss a moment. Subscribe to this.
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been losing to Taler Rico in the polls. uh by 2.8. points in the Real Clear Politics. average of polls. So, Paxton has been. behind, consistently behind in this. race, and Koshi currently gives Talerico. a 63% chance of winning. That's as of an. hour ago, 11:00 a.m. Eastern time. Uh, however, there's been a twist in this. case, and it is a potentially shocking.
one. All right, let's just start with. this. Check out this clip of Telerico. from Saturday, September 26th. Watch. Corrupt politicians are profiting off a. corrupt war and Texans are literally. paying the price. Ken Paxton supports. this disastrous war in Iran that's. driving up our costs. Today, I am. calling on him to oppose this war and. support my plan to suspend the federal.
gas tax and the federal diesel tax so we. can provide Texans some necessary. relief. suspend the federal gas tax, suspend the federal diesel tax, and end. this disastrous war so we can lower. prices for Texans. Okay, those are standard Democratic. talking points. The real significance of. that clip is that was the last time. Terrio was spotted on the campaign trail. in Texas 13 days ago. Now we are in.
crunch time. [clears throat]. Even President Trump is blanketing the. country getting out there stumping for. candidates. He is in one of the tightest. and most important Senate races in the. country. The balance of power in the US. Senate very much hinges upon a few. states, including absolutely including. Texas. How has he not been seen for 13 days? Something's wrong. very clearly. His.
campaign tells CNN that on September. 28th, 2 days after that soundbite, Terarico did attend a fundraiser in New. York City for himself and for Ohio. Senate candidate Sherid Brown, headlined. by none other than Robert Dairo. Another fundraiser was held for Terico. in New York City the next day, but it. does not appear he attended that event. So that would make the last time anyone. saw him um potentially on the 28th. Now,
there was a brief sighting on the 30th. Here's what happened. He was supposed to. go to a US Hispanic Business Council. event in Texas in person, but he did not. show up in Texas in person. Okay, keep. in mind he'd been in New York doing all. these fundraisers. Why are you in New. York? Paxton's been making a deal out of. it. Why isn't he in New York? Or why. isn't he in Texas? He's he's basically. too busy in New York getting bought and.
paid for is what Paxton has been saying. So, this was the date he was supposed to. show up in Texas and, you know, in. person and instead he appeared virtually. and had this to say. >> Thank you, Javier, for for making this. work. I just wanted to um first. apologize to you and the and the uh US. Hispanic Business Council and your team. and everyone there at UTRGV. You can ask my team. My team is there uh.
on the ground. Uh they they will tell. you that I was looking forward. [clears throat] to being down in the. valley. Uh I've been talking about it. all week. Uh was ready to to eat uh my. favorite quesabidia tacos. Uh but uh I I. was starting to feel kind of under the. weather a few days ago and and last. night it got so bad that I went to the. the urgent care here in Dallas and uh. and I was diagnosed with the flu and so. uh I'm running a fever and and I'm I'm. my most contagious uh right now and and.
I guess I've been shaking too many hands. uh on the campaign trail. Uh, and so I. uh I want to keep everybody safe and uh. you know if something if I was passing. on this illness to somebody and and got. someone's grandmother or or someone's. baby sick, uh I I wouldn't live with. couldn't live with myself. >> Um I don't believe one word of that. He. could live with himself just fine. These. people who are this close to seizing. power will be stopped by nothing.
Uh, and speaking of nothing, since that. virtual appearance at the Texas event, we have had not one word from James. Tarico. Not a virtual event, not a. social media video, not nothing, not. even a proof of life picture. Terarico. had a 59% chance to win the race. according to Koshi, uh, one of our. sponsors back then. So, his odds have. actually gone up since he was last seen. in public. That ought to tell you. something about his personality. And by.
the way, you can give our sponsor Kali a. try by using code Megan Kelly or just. click the lick the link in our. description. All new users get 25 bucks. free when they trade 25 bucks. Um, I. love Kali. It's actually super fun. Now, Talerico has continued to post on X. But. of course, a staffer could do that, including challenging Paxton to a. one-on-one debate, something he clearly. feels comfortable doing because thus. far, Paxton has refused his requests for. debates. Who is tweeting for Terico?
He's been off the campaign trail in the. crunch period of the election for 13. days because of the flu. I mean, not for. nothing, but if you look it up online, what they say is the flu. typically lasts five to seven days. Full. recovery can take one to two weeks, but. that's from Harvard Health. 5 to seven. He's been gone for 13.
13. How is it that if you've got a. candidate in this tight a race and for. days now there has been speculation and. concern from his supporters about where. the hell he is, you don't get him back. out. You're not contagious week two. That's not the case. You may just feel. under the weather. Why wouldn't there be. a picture of him? He actually fell ill. another time and they put pictures out. of him. Where's the picture? If he's in. bed really suffering, why wouldn't we. document that with some sort of fun pick.
with like bunch of balloons and campaign. staffers showing his spirits are fine, but obviously he had a physical setback. No. Now, after everything exploded yesterday. on this, now his campaign says, "Oh, expect him back on the trail this. weekend.". But his next officially scheduled event. is not actually until Wednesday of next. week. That's when CNN and Jubilee Media. are set to host a town hall with him.
His nearly two week absence has sparked. many theories and speculation about what. the hell is going on here. Here's what. President Trump said earlier this week. He's a vegan. He wants to eat a piece of. lettuce. A little piece of lettuce, please. But he's been seen. You know, you. haven't seen him in a couple of weeks. I. hear the guy's disappeared. Nobody. knows. You know where he is? He's sick. because he's been forced to eat meat for. political reasons and he's throwing up. all over the place. He's sick.
Okay, that's the president's humorist. humorist take. This next person was not. being funny. She was reporting what. she's hearing on the ground. This is unconfirmed, but for awareness, Republican strate strategist Caroline. Ren raised eyebrows last night when she. told Steve Bannon about what she's. hearing yesterday. >> I'm just going to say it. I'm hearing.
that he checked himself into a mental. instit institution that he had a. full-blown like mental breakdown. sometime around I guess September 29th. or September 30th. They subsequently. have canled all events, all events in. the state of Texas. He has been nowhere. They're now the campaign's now saying, "Oh, he might be feeling better in a. couple days. You might see him this. weekend." So, I, you know, I heard this. from someone in Texas. I have no idea. what the truth is. I'm not an. investigative reporter, but. investigative reporters, if you're. listening, you should really be looking. into this because there's uh I've I've.
had the flu many times. We've all had. the flu. You are not out for 12 days. Like, give me give me a break. >> That's absolutely true. You are not out. for 12 days. These are lies. This is not. flu. I don't believe that for one. minute. 12 days at this point in the. campaign, something else is going on. And shame on the press corp for not. being all over this because if there's. any chance James Terico actually is in a. mental institution having suffered some.
sort of a break, it will be the biggest. political firestorm to break in years. Okay? So that would be a story that any. honest reporter would be all over if. this is their beat. Now, there may be. absolutely no truth to that, but either. way, the heat must be turned up to an 11. on this campaign for as Paxton is now. demanding, proof of life. Truly, we need. proof of life. Where is he? Let's see a. photo with today's newspaper. Let's see.
video. Let's hear him talk. Let's find. out what facility he's in. Where where. is he recovering from flu? Who can vouch. for it? Is there a doctor involved? Let's hear from him. Because if this guy. had a mental breakdown weeks before the. vote, the people of Texas deserve to. know. The people of the United States. deserve to know. Now, back in 2019, he's a diabetic and. that caught up to him as he was. campaigning to become a state. representative. And his campaign was.
quick to pump out pictures of him in bed. smiling. They knew what to do. He knew. what to do to document a genuine. illness. Where's that? Why are we getting nothing? I don't know if it's mental institution, but is he someplace else? Is he out. begging for money in states other than. Texas confirming the Paxton, you know, smears on him? Are they smears if.
they're true? About how he won't come to. Texas and he's basically getting bought. and paid for state-to-state. Who knows? We deserve an explanation. This morning, we emailed the campaign to. ask if Talico had undergone any mental. health treatment while he's been away. from campaigning. So far, no response. They're busy looking for their. candidate. That's my own take on it. This is a story, folks. It's not going. away. Uh he may come out this weekend.
Ain't going to do it. And even if he. does come out this weekend, where was. he? Where was he? The press corpora better. get off of its. lazy biased ass and start knocking on. the doors of every mental health. facility in New York and Texas first of. all. and on every staffer's door. Getting. them on the record. Let them lie to your. face. Get it on the record. Get a name. from each one of them. Call the. hospitals. See if you can find any.
confirmation of any admission. And Democrat donor circles are not. mysteries to reporters covering. candidates like Terico. Start kicking. the tires. Is that what he's doing? Let's find out one way or the other. right now. This is a scandal. Moving on. Last night was debate night. in several states and it was. fascinating. Unlike that lame Maine. debate, there were some real mixups.
going on between the candidates last. night. My favorite was the New York. State Attorney General debate, which. I'll get to in a minute. It's less. consequential, however, because Tish. James is leading this other rising star, Komaetti, by 13 points. And New York State is not. going to elect a Republican AG who. clerked for Brett Kavanaaugh. It's just. it's not going to. I'm sorry. I wish I. were wrong. Desperately wish. But this. gal's a rising star. She's got a future. in Republican politics and uh Tish James. looked flatfooted and kind of dumb and.
dishonest. But what else is new? In any. event, it was entertaining, but it's not. consequential. I I fear. Um but Michigan. was interesting. I I I have thoughts on. this this whole thing. So, we we go into. this Michigan debate between um Elsied. and Mike Rogers, the Republican, with. Elsa up. He's up and favored to win in in most. polls. And Mike Rogers hasn't been doing.
that well in in Michigan. Now, that means that Mike Rogers needed to. score knockout blows in this debate, right? He had to be the clear winner. He. had to basically take take out Elsad. And there were a couple of exchanges in. which he did land blows and he got. Elsaiad or the moderator did to make. some startling admissions. And here's my. question today.
While they would have been absolutely. devastating to Elsad in my view. 5 years ago, 10 years ago, certainly are. they absolutely devastating to him. today? because the issue they were. really firing back and forth on in some. of these exchanges was Israel and. everyone knows how controversial that. issue has become including in the state. of Michigan. I mean, that's one of the. reasons Elsad is doing so well is. because he is very firmly against the.
United States getting involved in any. more of Israel's conflicts. And Mike. Rogers is more your typical Republican. neocon. as you guys know that there's a large. portion of the Republican base now that. is not neoconi and is tired of foreign. wars and really wants the president to. be laser focused on domestic issues. not. Israel, not Iran, not the Middle East, and certainly not another war. But Mike. Rogers is more of the neocon traditional.
Republican uh cut. So these two square. off. I mean, it's a great issue to pit. them against each other on. If I were. the debate moderator, I would have done. it, too, because they're the differences. are vast. And while in some of these exchanges, you can see I I see why my Republican. friends online are like, "He's toast. Elsad is toast. I have to say I don't know whether. that's true. I am really not sure. whether the electorate in Michigan is.
going to say I will abandon him for that. answer. Um here's the one in particular. whether Iran. or Israel is more of a threat. Sat n. >> I'm going to ask you again tonight. Who. do you think is a bigger threat to the. United States? Israel or Iran? You have. 60 seconds. >> And again, Rick, I'm just going to say. that that's a ridiculous hypothetical. because here's what's happening right. now. Our ostensible ally in Israel has. lobbied us to go to war with Iran. We.
have watched as Iran has responded by. bombing all kinds of countries in the. Middle East and then choking off the. world's energy supply. So, this is a. situation in which I don't think we. should be a part. >> I'll ask one last time, Israel or Iran? That's a again a ridiculous question. I. think both of them have proven dangerous. in their own way. >> So the many Republicans more the neocon.
Republicans in particular were all over. that exchange last night saying you've. got to be kidding me. You you don't know. whether Iran or Israel is a greater. threat. And you know there's a long history of. Iran being antagonistic to put it mildly. toward the United States. not Israel, which is an ally, but he's coming at it. from a totally different angle, saying. basically, Israel is the one that got us. into this war, which has been absolutely. terrible for America. Iran didn't get us. into the war. He doesn't believe the. nuclear weapons claim. Even President.
Trump admitted after he claimed. otherwise that he took care of that. nuclear program in June of 2025. So, if this is your issue, if Israel is. the thing that's going to drive you to. go vote for a candidate and not for. another in Michigan or elsewhere, you. have absolutely no problem with that. answer. Right? If that's the thing. that's at the top of your electoral. issue heap, I I don't think that's going. to hurt him at all at all. He's been.
very clear uh that he's not really on. the pro-Israel side. And even before. last night's debate, they were pulling. aside uh Jewish voters in Michigan, and. a lot of them were saying, "I'm a. Democrat. I want to vote for him, but I. can't because of his stance on Israel.". So, I I think it's going to be. fascinating to watch whether answers. like that change the trajectory of this. race one way or the other, frankly. Now, they Mike Rogers was hammering him on.
his ties to radical Muslim groups. And again, this would generally be. something that would. generate enthusiasm amongst the GOP. base. Now, Michigan, it's really not a. red state, so I'm not exactly sure how. much he can accomplish with that, but it. was it was the move to to play. I mean, I would have hit him, I think, a little. bit more on his radicalism on social. issues, too. But who, you know, because. we're trying to we're fighting for. independence now. Um, in any event, he.
seemed to be throwing out a lot of. fodder for the base, for the GOP base in. Michigan, such as it is. And he did. score some points. Again, I have the. same question. Are they the points you. need? Are they the points with the. voters that you need to score? Um, here. is a back and forth on the Muslim. Brotherhood. Sad 8. >> This is the same IRGC that has killed. American troops uh in Iraq. it has blood.
on their hands tried a terrorist attack. here in the United States. If you can't. condemn the IRGC, you have no business. in the United States Senate. And if you. think about why you know his supporters. funnel money through uh from a group. that supports the Muslim Brotherhood, this is a huge problem and that is an. ideological problem that we cannot allow. to walk into the United States. I will. condemn any any use of force against a. domestic population abroad. When you've.
got an international problem, he's got a. war for that. That's his approach. >> He can't condemn a terrorist act that. happened on our soil in the state of. Michigan. He can't bring himself to. condemn. >> condemn. talking about making stuff up. >> I literally condemn you. Can't condemn. it. He can't condemn Hamas. He can't. condemn the Muslim Brotherhood. He says. his home is Egypt. This is all starting. my home. >> He does own a home in Florida. I just he. took it off the market. I don't know for. why he did take it home as a home in the.
United Arab Emirates. >> staying in the Middle East. Congressman. Rogers in the United States. >> Uh that was one of the spiciest. exchanges of the evening on the can he. condemn the terror attack on US soil in. Michigan question. Um uh okay. He. eventually got around to kind of doing. it, but this is what he said after a. March 2020 I'll say March 2026 terror. attack in Michigan in which a man rammed. a truck loaded with fireworks and.
gasoline into the daycare at Temple, Israel. None of the congregants uh was. hurt, thank goodness. Elsa initially, quoting here from the New York Post, drew attention to the perpetrator. appearing to be motivated by an Israeli. attack in Lebanon. So he went right to. the motivation of the terrorist. There's a place for that someplace in a. discussion about terror. It's down the list from oh my god I.
condemn this form of Islamic terror. against uh Temple Israel the daycare. that's which he didn't get. Uh and not. only that he said and I quote hurt. people hurt people. Oh my god. He said, "Hurt people, hurt people." Hurt people. hurt people in response to a terror. attack on Temple Israel and its daycare. Total fail. Now, he has been trying to. make inroads with some Jewish voters in. Michigan as of late. You know, he.
doesn't want there to be any margin of. error. He wants to win and he'd like it. to be clear. And some are migrating. over. Just because you're Jewish doesn't. mean you support Israel. Uh this has. been a frustration amongst you know many. who are Israeli supporters for a long. time. They think if you're Jewish you. should support Israel. A lot a lot. really have a lot of criticisms for. Israel especially its government. Netanyahu etc. But uh hurt people hurt. people is what he said after that terror. attack. So that's what Rogers is hitting.
him for and Rogers was right to do it. Um Elsa did have the good line of if. you've got an international problem he's. got a war for that. that's tapping into. a, you know, war fatigue that that. independents are feeling, some. Republicans are feeling, and Democrats. are feeling. So, good line. Then there. was the back and forth at the end about, oh, he's got a home in Florida. He he's. got a home in the United Arab Emirates. At least Florida's in the United States, which was clever. It was good by Mike.
Rogers. You got to give him the points. on that. As for ties to questionable. groups, here's what the Post, New York. Post, responded. that um Elsa's. father-in-law. uh and his a donor. uh had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. and his birthmother Faten Elcomy did. work for the Islamic American Relief. Agency which the Treasury went after due. to its support for Osama bin Laden. So. there are some questionable ties on the.
Elsa side that I think most Republicans. would not love. But again, who are these comments for? And is the. base big enough in Michigan that's. thinking about sitting on the sidelines. or even possibly thinking about voting. for Elsa over Israel because they know. Rogers is a neocon. Are these issues big. enough to change their outlook? That's. what we'll see in the polling to come. I. can't wait. I'm really looking forward.
to seeing their verdict. Um, here's. something else that's surfaced on Elsa. that's important and where, you know, what I think would shut a lot. of people down, which is something. unearthed by libs of Tik Tok via um its. review of a 2024 podcast Elsa Ed was on. Watch this 11. It's a mustread for. public health professionals, researchers, community activists, and.
advocates of women and birthing people. Against the veto of its Republican. governor, Ohio's Republican dominated. legislature has moved to ban all gender-. affirming surgeries and hormone. therapies. It restricts gender affirming. healthcare for transgender folks until. they turn 18. It also bans trans girls. and women from girls and women sports. through college. So, we discussed in a. previous episode with Dr. Cullen Baker. Gender- affirming care that allows trans. kids, their parents, and their. healthcare providers to make the best. individual decision for them, protects. them from suicide. It saves lives. Point. blank. >> Oh my god. These are lies. This is.
ridiculous. So, this is who you're. getting. Okay? Like, this is who you're. getting. You really I I think the. difference comes down like you got to. figure out what your issues are. if you. know our our proximity to Israel, our. you know. just willingness to fight Israel's. battles for it alongside it is your. number one issue, this is your guy. But. if you care about things like somebody. who thinks it's birthing peoples instead.
of moms, it's probably a no. And not. just that, listen to him last night on. immigration and illegal immigrants. Sat. 7. >> also think we need a pathway to. citizenship for folks who are stuck in. limbo right now. You've got this tough. guy attitude to immigration that's not. keeping us safe. In fact, it's. terrorizing folks in our streets. It's. not funding the southern border which. needs to be kept safe. But what it is. doing, it's weaponizing an agency of the. government at the tune of Donald Trump.
and his group. I mean, we we tried that. We've tried. that in four years of Joe Biden with his. open borders. This is okay. This is what. we're dealing with. Pathway to. citizenship. Really? But again, who's it going to get off the. couch? Probably Republicans. I I don't I don't know. Will it Is that. enough? Get me off the couch. Um but I'm. a right-leaning independent.
He did say when pressed by the. moderator, if you had an illegal in jail. in Michigan um and was he was for murder. and he was about to get out, would you. cooperate with ICE and getting him. deported? And he did say yes. So, thanks. That's great. So glad so glad to. hear that. Um okay, let me move on to. quickly what happened in the New York. Attorney General debate. So this comet. ready, forgive me if I'm not pronouncing.
it correctly, but she's a star. She went. to Harvard undergrad, Harvard Law. School. She clerked for Brett Kavanaaugh. when he was still on the uh the US uh. court of appeals for the DC circuit. Very prestigious court and very. prestigious clerkship. She went down to. the Eastern District of New York and. became a prosecuting attorney, federal. attorney there. um and has been making a name for. herself in Republican circles and you. can see why. So here's now she's had two.
sets of twins. So not only is she very. accomplished lawyer but she's got a lot. going on at home, a lot of. responsibilities and this was a very. charming answer, clever and one get gets. the sense honest unlike the nightmare. across from her Tish James who doesn't. understand the meaning of that word. Here, take a listen to SA 15. >> Miss James, what's the last book you. read? >> I'm currently reading Congress member. Jamie Raskin's book, Unthinkable, >> Miss Ready.
>> Uh, Little Blue Truck, actually the. Spanish version, my 2-year-old's favorite book. >> That's every parent can relate to that. When your kids are young, you has not a. whole lot of time for, you know, extra. leisure reading, especially if you also. work outside the home, right? And this. woman works hard outside the home and. has very high stakes things going on in. her life. Little Buddhuck, love the. series. Who didn't? [laughter]. Love the answer, too. And I think that. will resonate with some moms, but New.
York hates Republicans, so not not. enough probably. Uh, then there was this. question. Um, I I this is an interesting one. Let's. just play South 16. >> Miss James, name a past New York. attorney general that you admire. Um, uh, >> Tik Tok [laughter]. >> only admires herself. >> Uh, no, no, no, no. We admire others. Um, I admire all of the past attorney.
generals because it's a difficult job. and you've got to stand up. >> Dennis Fakco, at a time when New York. State needed it, we had another former. federal prosecutor become attorney. general and bring law and order to the. state. >> This woman is a badass. I love her. And. Tish James was h she had a Sarah Palin. moment there. That's what happened. She. had uh remember Katie Kurrick like what. newspapers do you read? Uh all of them.
And we all knew she was just like giving. a filler answer. And that's exactly what. Tish James did right there. She didn't. have any she has no idea. She was like a. blank on who had held the job other than. her because her opponent had it exactly. right. She's obsessed with herself. She's a narcissist. She only thinks. about Tish James morning, noon, and. night. And that seemingly easy question. caught her flat-footed and her vanity. was apparent. And then her opponent.
there commentator shoved it down her. throat. That was also quite beautiful. Then they got to the issue of Cornell. and Tish James' extrajudicial statements. calling Jane Doe a survivor and she. stands with her and all surv. What do. you mean you stand with her? Now you're. going to be the prosecuting attorney who. decides whether criminal charges should. be brought or to push for them. And. you've already said you stand with her. and against them. What the f? She was.
asked about it. Good for them for asking. her about it. And here is how she. defended it. Remember last week she said. uh or earlier this week, I think it was. Monday, she said um what day was it? Whatever. It doesn't matter. It was last. Friday. She said uh I don't I'm not. going to comment on Facebook or an ex. post. It was her own. But here's how she. handled it last night. Sot 17. You. called the alleged victim a survivor. And you also said, quote, I stand with. the victim. Considering these comments,
can the accused students have confidence. that you haven't prejudged the case? And. as a law enforcement official, how can. you make those comments based only on. allegations before conducting an. investigation and seeing the evidence? Those comments demonstrate empathy. And. what we need now more than ever in our. body politics is more empathy. the the. governor of the great state of New York, Governor Kathy Hokll, u basically. assigned me uh to analyze this case and.
to judge it um and to uh do it without. bias. And she's requesting an unbiased. investigation and a thorough. investigation. And we will do that based. on the facts and based on the evidence. >> Empathy. Who with whom does the empathy. fall? That that there should have been a. follow-up. Why does Jane Doe get your. empathy? and there is none despair for. the men who have been accused possibly. unfairly and untruthfully.
This is a complete derelction of duty by. a prosecutor. Even Ellie Honeig, the CNN. uh legal analyst, straight shooter, found the same in a in a compelling. piece he wrote uh that's available I. think at MSNBC. Uh so empathy for whom? That's not an appropriate thing to bring. to your commentary around a case like. this, especially when we all know she. had been sniffing around it and almost. certainly knew when she made these. comments 3 days before she was appointed.
that there was a chance she'd be getting. the case. So, no, it you don't express. empathy. Jane Doe may or may not be a. victim. Jane Doe may or may not be a. sexual assaulter. Where's your empathy for defendant. number one who may have been sexually. molested while he was unconscious? Tish. James. She's always over her skis. She's always. behaving inappropriately. Half the. she said about Trump when New York State.
went after his business. for its alleged fraudulent dealings, which went so poorly for her, were. completely inappropriate and unethical. She was eyeballing his business down his. building downtown. She couldn't stop. She was like doing a running clock. ticker of the amount of interest she was. running up on her that was running up on. her verdict while he appealed it. And. the verdict was so backward that a New. York appellet court, no friend of Donald. Trump's, reversed it and reduced the.
judgment to zero. It wasn't a win. She. stopped posting right around there. Uh. this woman is a hack. It's a disgrace. She's our attorney general and God. forbid that she become the the governor. which is her next I've got my eyes on it. post. Kaderetti had thoughts on the Cornell. statements and this is how she espoused. them. Saw 18. Sexual assault cases are some of the.
most serious cases that you can handle. as a prosecutor and they require serious. prosecutors. This requires. professionalism. Requires someone who. approaches the case with fairness, impartiality, and integrity. Tish James. has none of those things. She's never. prosecuted a criminal case in her whole. career. She's certainly never prosecuted. a sexual assault case, and she's already. screwed this one up by prejudging it. Amen. Want to give a shout out to the. moderator, Spectrum News anchor Susan.
Arbiter, who did a good job in raising. that question with Tish James. Um, again, could have used a follow-up, but. every second cost you your next. question. So, it's a tough call in these. debates on how hard to follow up. Um, in. any event, appreciated the question. being asked because it it's been. dominating the news and many other. anchors would have ignored it because. Cornell 7 and it's falling along. political lines and so on. Um, okay. I. do want to touch on news in that case, the Cornell case. And boy, uh, has there.
been news overnight. Um, something very. disturbing has emerged, which is that. Jane Doe made additional comments that. completely give up the game here. And. what is disturbing in addition to just, you know, reading them and understanding. what she's putting these young men. through is that it appears to me the New. York Times had these messages in its. possession and chose not to publish. them. Now, it is possible that whoever.
gave them or showed them the texts that. they've been printing only showed them. part of the message that they printed. But I have a hard time believing that. I. can believe they didn't get additional. text messages that have now hit via TMZ, but I have a really hard time believing. just half of an actual single text was. sent to the New York Times and they ran. with it. I feel pretty certain that the.
New York Times editorial board would. have said or editor um and standards. would have said, "We need to see the. whole text. We don't know what we're. dealing with here. We need to see the. whole thing." And the whole text is very. damning for Jane Doe. The beginning part. of the text was damning for Jane Doe, but the whole text is even worse. Um it. hit the news yesterday. If you were not. online, I will tell you what it what it. conveys. It is the more full version of. the text from Jane Doe to defendant.
number two, Jonathan Newell, dated. October 21st, 2024. The alleged assault. happened October 19th into 20th. We knew. from this text earlier that Jane Doe had. said, "At the end of the day, none of the. sexual stuff was illegal, and honestly, I really liked being with you and Matt.". Okay, we knew that she had said that, but there's a lot more in this text. And. I'll just start with the most compelling.
and damning. I don't think we should. feel any shame for the part I think she. means the sex part, but it doesn't. matter. I don't think we should feel any. shame, our body, our choice A as F, which in. slaying stands for as I don't. think we should feel any shame. Our body, our choice, her case is over. It's over.
In addition to all the other texts that. are out there, rumor going around that. I'm a Unfortunately, it's true. Nothing illegal happened, which is in. this particular text, as I pointed out. Um, it like I I love I love you. We. pointed this out that she said this to. Matt, defendant number one. Well, guess. what? She says it to this defendant, too. This defendant, uh, John Newell. That's in another text. Well, it's in.
the it's in the bottom half of this same. text. So, she says, I'm going to read. you the whole thing now. Okay, stand by. He writes to her and says, "This is Jonathan. Uh, wanted to. apologize for how things went down the. other night. My memor is kind of fuzzy. about a lot of it, but me and Matt both. feel like shits for being too up. to shut it down and kick people out. before it got way out of hand. You're an. amazing person. I genuinely hope you're. not catching as much heat from this as. we are. We've been shutting down any. stories we've heard, but again, I'm so.
so sorry. She responds on Monday, December 21st. A Jonathan, I really. appreciate this text. My memor is super. clouded, too. I think we were all way. too drunk and high. Okay, so. here she is acknowledging that he too. The and the boys too, men were way too. drunk and high. Not just her, them too. I'm getting a little heat. Pi girls, then she appears to name them. Their. names are blacked out. Can't get my name.
out of their mouth, but that's to be. expected. But at the end of the day, none of the sexual stuff was illegal. And honestly, I really like being with. you and Matt. So, anything anyone has to. say about the gang bang is out of their. jurisdiction. I don't think we should. feel any shame for the part. Period. Our. body, our choice, ASF. She calls it a gang bang. She's trying. to make him feel better about it. She's. acknowledging that the guys were out of.
their mind, hammered, as she claims here. was she. She says we shouldn't feel any shame. around this. Our body, our choice. The message goes on. Again, none of this. appeared in the New York Times after the. nothing was illegal. Um. that that piece about I really liked. being with you and Matt and at the end. of the day, none of the sexual stuff was. illegal. Okay. It goes on. Also, yes,
while it may have been nice for like. only four people to have been around, y'all were both super out of it. And. they should have taken it on themselves. to leave. At the end of the day, you, Matt, and I were in your bed and they. didn't need to get up in that. But if. you have any regrets or anything you. want to talk about, I'm always here to. talk about it cuz that was a lot. I. really do love you and Matt and I. promise I won't get quiet and weird with.
you like I did last time. I don't know what that is. What's that a. reference to last time? Last time they. were together. I have no idea if there's. a history between this gal and John. Newell or not. We knew there was one. between her and the defendant number. one, Matt Engles. But here she is. acknowledging again, you were both super. out of it. if you have any regrets or. anything you want to talk about, I'm. here. She's she's telegraph I can be. your comfort blanket on like if you're.
regretting it, I got you. Come come call. me. And then finishes it up again to her. alleged gang rapist who she refers to a. gang banger in here. A gang bang, not a. not a rape. Um and tells him, "I I love. you. I really do love you and Matt. I. really do love you." And there's a. separate message in which she tells Matt. she loves him. I mean, this is really. crazy. Then there are highlights. reported on um via CBS News from her.
voluntary statement to police. And these. two, I mean, are just very telling. The. first the first and foremost is um. she reiterates that she was excited. about her initial threesome with Matt. and John. That's her word. It's in. quotes. I remember being excited. I. remember being excited. And then she. goes on to say that thing that we talked. about wanting to have a threesome meant. that they were gay, which would have. meant that they were part of my. community as I am bisexual. Okay,
whatever. Um, she does in this statement to the. police tell them that she had been. drinking Tito's vodka, had consumed. approximately six shots before someone. took the bottle from her. She claims to. have consumed several sips from another. sorority sister's mix mixed drinks and. that when she went to a bar, she claimed. she got a Sex on the Beach mixed drink. The bar has denied that, but that's her. claim. So, we're seeing where she got. drunk. None of that is suggesting that. somebody else got her drunk. She made.
the choices. That's what's damning to. her sexual assault claims, the criminal. ones. Potentially, not the civil, though. it should be civil, too. In any event, um, then she she says she's talking. about the moment she was hit by. defendant number two. I began to feel. blank hit me many times on my butt. I. remember that they were hurting me and. one in particular sent a sharp pain. through me many times on my butt. I. remember that the hits were hurting me. Blah blah blah. Okay, same thing. And I. said, "Damn, one sent a sharp pain. through me, which caused me to turn.
around and say, damn, now this is. unpleasant and you know, I understand. the discomfort. However, the ability to. remember these things in intimate detail. is just fatal to her claim. She is not. physically incapacitated. That's the. legal standard. If she can prove she was. physically helpless, they can bring. charges. Her recitation from the. beginning to now proves anything but. proves she remembers everything in great. detail. On some things she may be fuzzy, but overall she can remember the.
playbyplay and told it to police like in. this moment. She went on, "I remember. someone bring someone someone brings up. the scars I have on my legs from. self-inflicted cutting that I had done. in August of this year. Hearing that my. scars were brought up, but that none of. them cared to ask about them made me. feel super isolated and that I didn't. matter as a person to these men." Well, that's interesting because you told them. days after that you loved them and that. you were eager to see them again at the. Ki Halloween party, but now they've.
disinvited her and here she is days. later in with the police saying, "Oh, I. I I felt like I wasn't a person to. them." Weird. She admits in this. document that she flexed. Remember, we. talked about her getting out and making. the muscle poses. Um, she said it was. because she was angry with one of these. men and so I stood up and began flexing. toward him while telling him that I. would mess him up. And then here is very. interesting about Lopes. Lopes, of. course, we had Lope's lawyer on the show. um 10 days ago or so. And Lopes's.
lawyer, this was the guy she had the. first threesome with the two guys. And. Lopes joined defendant number two on the. second threesome. Uh, this is what she says. First, she says that um all of the men. came in and were they were talking about. how pretty I was, which was very. confusing because although it was very. nice to hear, I was still very. uncomfortable with the situation. Again, this is to the cops. Shortly after that, I believe it was Blank who asked if they. could all do drugs off of my perfect.
body. Seeing as I was already laying. down and feeling extremely tired, I told. him, "Sure.". So, just in case there's any question. about consent on the snorting of the. ketamine off of her body, her recitation. to the cops was, "I told them sure," in. quotes, "Sure.". Again, the only way that consent is. visiated is if she had crossed over to. physical helplessness, which she does. not allege. She goes on about Lopes. Shortly after. the men were doing drugs off my body, Blank and Blank entered the room and.
said something like, "Okay, we're. shutting down whatever the f this is. I. found that strange because blank, I. think she means lopes here, was acting. as if he hadn't just been in the room. with me earlier in the night. I think I. even said something like, "Wait, didn't. this guy me?". This is not, "Didn't he just rape me? Didn't he just attack me?" She's amused. that he's now trying to that there's. been testimonial elsewhere that Lopes. was one of the two who went in tried to. shut it down.
Um, then she goes on, well, one final point. A reporter for. CBS New York, Masha Sedaro. say, she reports she posted a video, which then she took down, of Lopes's. Title N interview, but we got a verbate. of it before she took it down. He said. he had a pretty recol solid recollection. of the night and said that Jane Doe told. him quote, "You have no idea how much I.
wanted to do this with you." End quote. He says that surprised him because he. quote really thought about that. He told. investigators that Jane Doe initiated. sexual relations at that point. He saw. no sign she was under the influence. He. described her as actively participating. He said when they stopped, they quote. collectively decided to stop. So that's that. Um, she called it a gang. bang. She told two of her alleged. rapists that she loved them and she.
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I've even got my own personal story with. Ari, which we will get to, but he is. also the inspiration behind the. character Ari Gold on HBO's hit series. Entourage. Now, Ari Emanuel is telling. his story in his own words. From his. humble beginnings in the mail room at. CIA to building an entertainment empire, now as the executive chair and CEO of. TKO, and all the deals and power plays. along the way, and he's naming names. He.
lays it all out in his new book. It's a. memoir called Roll the Calls out this. month. Ari, great to see you. Congrats. on the book. >> Thank you so much. How are you doing? Long time no talk. >> I'm I know. I'm doing great. All is. well. And uh I'm thrilled you wrote this. book because I learned so much about you. that I did not know. Let me tell you. something funny just to kick it off. When um you were rolling the calls my. way years ago and seeking to have a.
relationship professionally, I called. some of your clients to see what's it. like to have Ari represent you. And one. who I I won't name him just because I. don't have his permission, but he loved. you. absolutely loved you. And I said, "What what what would happen if he. needed to break up with Ari?" And this. is like a grizzled newsman. And he said, "Oh, I don't like to even think about. that." [laughter]. But but but he he didn't break up with. me, right? >> No, he didn't. He's still with you. And.
they all loved you. So you are you are. irrassable and rageful to outsiders but. to your clients you would you would take. a bullet and you've proven that. >> hopefully friends hopefully they get it. in the book uh clients uh family members. um and and I hope in the book I re I. realize over time you have to be a ride. or die guy for yourself and um I hope. that comes across uh in the book and you.
have to take agency for yourself and um. I I I do believe my clients feel that. way. I feel that way towards them. So. >> that's that's the way I like the way I. like to roll. >> Both in the references I received about. you and in just reading the book, which. was a fun ride. >> I didn't get to sign you. >> I know. Well, here's what happened. I. mean, so you gave me you rolled the. calls my way and I got a million phone. calls from R Emanuel. You just like. non-stop. you write about that how that.
you do that in the book and most people. just give up in the end to say okay like. Larry David all right if you stop. calling me I'll I'll sign with you. >> um but in my case I had been getting. sort of solicited by a CIA agent for. many years at that point and he was. trying to close the deal so I felt some. loyalty to him so I wound up going with. him and I don't mind telling you that. was a disaster in the end I was. completely abandoned by CIA when the. hit the fan for me at NBC DC and um. that when I was in the middle of the.
biggest challenge of my career and being. called a racist in every newspaper in. America for saying something that was. true, which is blackface was treated. differently in the 70s than it is today. >> They sent me flowers, Ari, the flowers. They sent me flowers. I did not need. flowers. I needed a killer to go in. there and rattle cages at NBC and call. them out on their In any. event, I did wind up with a great lawyer. as a result of it all who did who did. become that guy. I think I could have. used the end of the day. Um, you want.
somebody that can engage in a. conversation with you. You guys make a. decision, whatever it is. You get tough. situations and I've had one with Michael. Moore. I've had many with a lot of. clients and all you want to know is that. when you put your p head on that pillow. at night and when you wake up that. partner, business partner, um has your. back in very tough times um has a. creative point of view of how to handle.
it. >> and we'll go fight the fight. They might. disagree with you. It's okay. I disagree. on projects all the time. But if we've. made a commitment, unless you've done. something so horrific or he's done. something, the representative, you know, you guys are in business together and. you you've made a, you know, kind of an. agreement. [snorts] And so, um, I think. that's what I I hopefully as a good. parent, meaning somebody that started a. company, I've taught the people here and. that's what people want in life. It's. okay to have the discussion the at my.
table at home with my parents and my. brothers. It was a very heated conversation. constantly about politics every night, >> but we love each other and we fight for. each other and we got our each other's. backs and that's what you want in life. So I think hopefully the audience knows. this but um you're the youngest brother. uh your your two big brothers are Rahm. Emanuel who's been on this show and Zeke. Emanuel who's been on my show at Fox. many times during one of the architects.
of Obamacare and a very accomplished. doctor and of course everybody knows. Rahm Emanuel was Obama's chief of staff. and the mayor of Chicago and ambassador. to Japan. >> and then came you and you're very open. in the book about how you thought okay. well I guess Zeke's the smart one. Rahm's the cunning one, and I'm just the. last one. >> And you didn't have like all this. swagger and confidence growing up. because you had very bad dyslexia and. ADHD, but you've come to a place, talk. about it, where you've you've realized.
now that that was actually critical to. your success. >> Well, one of the things um you know, my. mom would put our grades on on the uh on. the refrigerator when we walked in and. you know, Zeke was Zeke. I mean, he's. like one of the smartest guys, graduated, top of class, and uh Rahm was accomplished also. And I. had dyslexia that and what I learned. over time is dyslexia doesn't mean that. you're stupid. You just you you organize.
words and letters and sounds differently. in the in the left part of your brain. from this woman Sally Shayitz at Yale. who was an expert in um in dyslexia. But, you know, being a family that. reading education was so important and. having ADHD was very hard for me. Um, and my mom never gave up, she had my. back and she made sure that I was going. to read even though there was a lot of. people thinking that that wasn't going. to happen. And she did then what this.
program I sent my kids to, Linda Mubell, did for my kids. She did it for me and. found out how to get me to read. And. >> with this this book is about. realizing for me, you know, that rage. was about getting to my identity cuz. they had identity. And I felt whether. that be true or not, I was telling. myself a story that, you know,
to prove that I wasn't dumb, even though. I was scared a lot, that people were. going to find out that I was dumb. because of how I was brought up and to. find out my identity. And I hope this. helps parents that have kids that are. dyslexic. If you. watch your kids struggle, but you let. them struggle, they get emotional. endurance, which can serve them throughout their. life, which is, I think, not to. generalize, something we need for our. our our our generations coming up. And.
for kids, dyslexia now for me has been a blessing. even though I would have cut off my arm. before to learn how to read because it. makes you a freeth thinker and that has. helped me in business and and also. trusting people to be in business with. and that has been incredible for me. >> Now where the first word of the book is. rage. some of your clients or at least. one of your clients calls you his ragent. >> and the stories are amazing about the.
rage coming through to people who could. really hurt you in Hollywood. You just. >> it's like you you did not care as you. were coming up the ranks. It's one thing. to be rageful now. You're you're super. powerful. Nobody can really hurt you. But even when you had no power, you were. showing it. So let's just start with. where did that come from? >> Let me just say the following. I think. Cormick McCarthy said at one point, rage. is only for what you believe can be. fixed. Uh the rest is grief. And when we.
started the business of Endeavor, there. was four big agencies. You couldn't. compete on economics. So we all charge. the same. And a lot of people thought. they could push us around. I only had plan A. And I and I also was. brought up uh for my mother, it's okay. to demonstrate. It's okay to fight back. against. people above you if you thought your.
opinions or your you had a point of view. that you could defend that and that was. okay. Again, as I said before, in my family, we we we argued all the time. So what I. considered a normal situation, people. thought was rageful. And I I understand. I do understand. But I wasn't going to. let anybody when we were coming up, whether it be another agency, producers, studio heads, try and take advantage of. us. And yeah, I mean, I was ready to go.
to battle with anybody and everybody. I. was a wrestler when I was in high. school, so it seems like I I was. wrestling. I was on the mat with. everybody constantly. Um, and for me, that's what it took. Um, and so. >> you write in the book, wrestling without. rage is cuddling. >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. >> So you you manage to get a job. So. you're a scrappy kid from the Chicago. area, Will Met, and you decide, let's. see, maybe I'll maybe I'll go be a. Hollywood agent. So you go you move out.
to Hollywood. You get a job in the mail. room. First, you work for this other guy. who really made an impression on you on. how to be a great agent. You listen in. on all the phone calls. >> And then you wind up going to the mail. room of CIA where they tell you you're. too old cuz you're 26. Everybody here's. 21. You said, "I'm I'm getting this. job." So, you do the the remanual on. them. Like, "Oh, no. I I will be working. in your mail room." And you do. You do. work in their mail room. Then, you work. your way up to like a junior agent, but. you're making a name and you're getting. clients and you're kind of a rising. star, and a group of guys decides to.
leave CIA to go do something else, like. just they're done with the CIA. situation, which is run by the god of. agents at the time. >> Different agencies. >> Okay. So, but CIA is run by the god of. all agents at the time, Michael Oitz. And you you say, "I got to go in there. and I'm going to resign to his face.". Long story short, he you you revealed. the truth to a a guy you thought was an. ally who wasn't, who ratted you out to. OIT, so he knew you were coming when you. walked in. And could you please tell the. story of what happened in that room?
>> Well, the the guy was an assistant and. we had been playing basketball, very. friends. He had gone to Northwestern and. I tell him like, "Hey, you're my friend. I'm telling you what I'm doing. No harm, no foul. I'm not going to tell anybody. that. I told you the night before he the. day before he rats me out." And then he. lets me know he rats me out. I go into. Michael's office and I say and he says, "You can't see me." And I said, "Well, I'll be back and you'll deal with me.". Then I come back about 10 minutes later.
and Mike is in the room with this guy by. the name of Lee Gabler and uh Mr. for. office manager um as he was referred to. in the book and Mike who is on Mount. Rushmore of talent agents with Louman. you know goes into his appropriate. you know conversation that he's going to. ruin me and my career is going to be. over and you know you're making a big.
mistake and I'm gonna take you down and. I had no move like what are you supposed. to say to the most powerful guy in. Hollywood would and an incredible agent. and businessman. I didn't know what to do. So, I just. stand up pissed off. There's a the back of the chair has a. hole in. I just pick it up and I go, "Are you threatening me?" as if like, "Okay, if you're threatening me, this. thing's coming off the hand." And I.
think it was like a shock that. >> Yes. [laughter] you know, some like I'm. a little crazy and uh maybe a little bit. more than a little and um yeah, it was. like before I mean I was working at ICM. later in my career and uh this also. famous incredible agent Sam Conn. wouldn't return my call and I worked at. the same company and I was dealing with. something. He wouldn't return my call.
for like three weeks. And I finally told my office, I got in. at 6, called Sam Conn, 9:00 on the East. Coast. He that's where he worked. And I. I told him, "Don't get off the phone. until this guy gets on the line. Just. don't get off the phone." He finally. picks up and I now I'm I'm I'm a pimple. on the ass of an ant at this point. I'm. nobody in the business. I have good. clients, but like this is Sam Con, one. of the greats. And I just he runs the company. I'm like.
his employee. I lay into him that he's a. horrible boss. He's a piece of. I don't even know why. I mean, I'm just. an idiot. [laughter]. But, you know, it is what it is. It kind. of with all the craziness of this book. and all the heartbreak and the. physically deterioration at times and at. the end it turned out to be a nice book. Oh, well, I mean, you're such a complex.
character because you've got the rage, the ragent piece of it down, and there's. plenty of stories in the book. Again, it's called Roll the Calls, uh, about. that. But then there's also this softer. side, the guy who gets up, and you told. me this when we were talking years ago, the guy who gets up and meditates for 20. minutes a day. You do the sauna. You you. you've been you talk about your Dr. Comm, the the psychiatrist that you've. been seeing for for many years to try to. like manage your feelings. So, you're. not all sharp elbows. You are aware that.
this the rage may not be. >> absolutely wonderful for your mental. health at all times and it's possible. you should explore it. You don't want to. lose it, >> but you're you're attuned to sort of the. mental health piece in a way that people. might find surprising. So, has Dr. Comm. helped you? >> Well, I think Dr. K got me on this whole. kick about the he called it the ego. project. It worked and I was working on. it with him. um other which I talk about in the book.
other uh I then went to India and met. with people there to try and kind of. deal with it. Um and realized that if we. wanted to really get to a better place. at the company and me as a leader. that rage and aggression were not going. to enable us to get even farther. cut to um I also then did some. hallucinogenics to also help which I. think helped a lot and.
>> I mean I think probably if you talk to. the people at the agency or the new. company I started or TKO they would say. there's like a ridiculous still amount. of rage that being said I do know when. I'm on the field and working and my. beautiful new wife uh Sarah Stoutinger. Stad and I do know when I'm off the. field and she tries to not that that's a. lot. She would like it to be more. Um. that that balance.
has helped me when I'm on the field to. really go for it and it's it's made it. better. [laughter]. >> Is a great brand by the way. She's a. fashion. you're right. She's she's doing air. quotes. Sarah is a fashion designer. whose brand is amazing by the way. I. absolutely love this brand. I wear it. all the time. Um did not did not realize. until uh now that that she was your. wife, but amazing. Um so you one of the.
surprising things to me in the book was. your best friend is a guy who may be. familiar to our audience or at least. he's been the best friend for a large. part of your adult years. Peter Berg. >> Yeah. >> You talk about this guy Pete. >> Yeah. And it turns out to be Peter Berg, who our audience may know as uh the man. behind Friday Night Lights, the man. behind Lone Survivor, um an incredibly talented director. >> He's got a new movie out coming out in. about a month and a half. It's called.
Mosquito. >> What is it? >> So, the guy that wrote. >> military related? >> Yeah. The guy that wrote Friday Night. Lights, Buzz Bessinger, wrote Mosquito. Bowl. >> Yep, I know him. Brian Graasier and. actually my son Ezra produced it. Pete. wrote and directed it and it's about. what happened in World War II. um at Okinawa and Japan and these kids. that were you know kind of college.
superstar football players. go there and what happens to them and I. think it's one of the great. war movie anti-war movies and Pete Berg. I think this is his greatest movie he. has ever made. Um, >> very timely. Very timely if that's what. it actually is. >> And it is upsetting, emotional. He This is his best movie, Mosquito. Ball. >> The um we know Marcus Latrell and uh.
love Marcus Latrell and of course the. Lone Survivor is his story among others. And uh we asked him about Peter Berg and. he was a big fan and his brother too. So. I it's funny like the the connections. you make and who who makes a difference. in your life. But I love that you guys. have this lifelong friendship. We were. in college together. >> Yeah. He was on your couch or you were. on his. >> and he he married us um before we went. to our um we went to Sanrope and Larry. David then did the ceremony, but he.
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toward everyone in Hollywood. Can we. talk about Jeffrey Katzenberg. >> because I'll tell you something about. Jeffrey Cat Katzenberg to kick it off. I. met him in Hollywood back in 2015 16 and. he told me personally I will make sure. Hillary Clinton wins. I will personally. I will donate whatever it takes to get. her across the finish line. And we all. know how that worked out. And I know. you've had your own dealings with him. Could you could you give us your opinion.
on that? >> Here's my opinion. I hope and I probably. not true but I hope in most of my career. um with my incidents I don't punch down. when we started the company. um there's a story about what happened. with the Lakers and what he tried to do. there's. >> he stole your ticket. >> tried to he tried to. >> there's a story about how people in.
Hollywood how he would make money back. then was TV packages and my partner. David Greenblat at the time put a. package together when we were just. Endeavor there was five or six of us um. and s sold it to DreamWorks and and. Jeffrey they wouldn't pay our package. which is economically when you're. starting out like a lifeblood for a lot. of what we we do in Hollywood writers. guild um got rid of them but that's a. different.
And throughout. I mean I just it's very hard and maybe. people won't say it how they feel about. Jeffrey. I don't mind saying it because. I think my story is probably if you kind. of pull the curtain back a lot of people. feel this way. But at the end of the day the worst. thing for me is I came out and my. brother worked for Obama. We I don't want to get into politics, but you know, Biden was there. He got.
elected and we were all seeing what we. you know, our lying eyes. Our eyes were. not lying. Like Ruth Bader Biden, I said. it a year beforehand. And Jeffrey was. raising money for him, saying exactly. what he he said about Hillary, about. Biden. And he was doing everything he. could. And he said to me, you know, do. you want a meeting with him? You know, I. was, you know, I give I'm a Democrat. you want to give a million dollars? And. I said, and I'll set up meeting. I said, do you think I need through you so you.
get credit how to meet President Biden? I said, my brother worked in the White. House. I mean, I could have gotten to I. could at a million dollars, anybody. could get me a meeting. I don't need you. to do it and take credit for it. >> And I was screaming at him about Kieran. Bass, too. And um. after the election and he then when we. all realized this is not going well. this is bad. He was saying that he had. his ear and could do everything and he.
then did nothing happened. He couldn't. get him out. Didn't didn't get him out. and. couldn't couldn't get him on the phone. or whatever the reasoning was. And then. afterwards he was like election was over. and he washed his hand of the situation. So I realized and I probably realized it. but I it came like he does things mainly. one he punches down two. he does stuff not for the reason but for.
how it reflects on him. >> not for me. >> Do you think there was someone more. responsible for trying to cover up Joe. Biden's mental infirmities outside of. Washington DC than Kenberg? I think. there was a lot of people probably to do. it, but you know, I don't know. I I just. know he kept on saying that he could get. me in a room and he had his ear and he. was working on stuff and. I mean I think you realize this in the.
book. I'm a guy that is not afraid to. express his opinion to people. And if. something's going wrong, at least have. the conversation. And if you're representing something. over here that you can do and that's why. you're raising money and you have this. that and the other thing when it comes. time to, you know, sit on that wall, you. know, Jack Nicholson and I, you know, you need me on that wall, you want me on. that wall, get on the wall and do your. job. Don't it don't.
>> You were reportedly behind the scenes. saying for months before Biden was. bounced out like get someone else. Anyone get get someone else in there. I. do this conference in September. called the weekend and um Ron Clay was. on stage. My brother screamed at me and. this is way before and I just said, you. know, we do not need Ruth Bader Biden. and he and I got in a church. conversation. and um I was screaming from the top of.
my lungs, you know, this can't be good. >> You know who you like this time around? Well, I don't know. I think it's uh I. think my brother Rahm said it. He was. very funny about it. You know, it's. going to be 31 flavors and um who know? I don't know. I I. >> He's one of them. >> Well, I listen, I am praying my brother. is one of them. Um, I don't think. whether it be him um in the Clinton.
administration and what he did trying to. get peace with Arafat, whether it be in. the Biden admin I mean an Obama. situation, whether getting us through uh. the financial crisis and um and uh. passing Obamacare and we can you you can. talk to him about that and my brother. Zeke about that. >> I talked to Zeke about that many times. then or when he when he was a when he. was a congressman and what he did there. and getting Democrats elected. I think. he did an incredible job as a mayor in.
Chicago and fighting the unions of for. kids and school, the teachers union and. then learning everything about our. allies in Asia um as the ambassador to. Japan. I don't think anybody has whether. it be how the White House works, how a. city works, how Congress works, how and. fighting for fighting against. teachers and and and for better. education for kids. I don't think. anybody in the current possible, if my.
brother decides to run, is better suited. um for what we need right now. >> What? Give me one word, one word that. that comes to mind when you think about. Rahm Emanuel. >> You know, my parents always said to us, "Make the world a better place." I can. see it in my brother Zeke. My brother. Rahm. wants to make the place. the world a better place. He fought for.
kids in Chicago. He made that place a. better place for business. He made. mistakes and took responsibility. He I think he did the same thing when he. was uh ambassador. He did the same thing. in the White House. >> And he's a man committed to helping. people. Um and. >> he he told me it was authenticity. He. thinks that's what will that that's. that's what will set him apart. If if he. decides to run,
>> the rarest supply. >> if he decides to run, as he said, it. will be 31 flavors and he will be Rocky. Road and that's what we need. [laughter]. >> All right. Well, we look forward to. seeing whether uh you're going to have a. brother in the White House or at least. as a Democratic nominee. That process is. about to unfold soon as we get past. these midterms. Uh all right. Another. one I got to ask you about because you. write openly about Harvey Weinstein. >> You were not impressed even before his. downfall. Could you describe describe. him physically?
>> First of all, let let's just say the. following. There was nobody as it relates to movies. and television. that had better taste in material than. Harvey Weinstein. Nobody. I mean, he was. he had better taste than anybody. You. can I mean, it's just look he had more I. mean, he was incredible for where he. was. I we didn't we were a small company. We. didn't know.
anything that was going on to this. extent. Um. at one point he come comes up, we're. about a month and a half old, two months. old. He summons us to the peninsula. His. shirts backwards food. And he says he's. made a deal for us, this small little. agency for $10 million that William. Morris is going to buy us. Like, who the are you? I Nobody.
asked you to do that. And he was. probably getting, you know, it's inside. Hollywood. He was getting a deal from. Willie Morris, getting stuff, and he's. going to make this thing happen. He's. going to push us around and and do all. this. And I'm like, "F you. I thought happening.". And um yeah, I mean, I had many runins. He screwed around with a movie that Mark. Wahlberg was in. Um. and uh.
he was he was he was rough. I mean, he. he had he was rough, but this whole. other world that he was living, I mean, disgusting. And I think people knew it that had been. in the business and been in business. with him that represented him. I mean in. the agency business the our competitor. CIA was representing him so they knew. it. They were. whatever and um yeah it's gross.
Not not not a not not cool. >> at all. Well, the the physical. descriptions of him in the book are. hilarious talking about like just how. sllovenly and sla what a slob he was, which seems like the opposite of you. It. must have felt kind of disdainful. whenever you had to deal with this guy. who, as you point out, was talented. >> and ultimately powerful. >> He was really, really talented and. really, really powerful because he was a.
guy that always had projects that were. nominated for Oscars. you had, you know, and so you needed to get your actors in. there. My competitors at the time had. just taken over CIA from Mike Oz and Ron. Meer and Bill Haber. So they needed that. to keep potentially clients and I think. well time will tell. Let's not draw any. conclusions but I you know I do think. some funny business was going on but. that's okay. I mean they're their day. will come. >> Meaning you think CIA looked the other. way. Is that what you're saying? >> Yeah.
But, you know, guess what? That's just. an opinion. >> The courts will figure it out. >> Um, there's there's cases coming up and. we'll see. >> Oh. Do you think things have changed. since his downfall in Hollywood? >> Um, do I think things have changed? I'm hoping. >> I mean, don't you think the casting. couch will always be there? >> I'm hoping not. I'm hoping not. That would be sad.
It's like at Fox when they made us all. go through sexual harassment training. and I sat there thinking they're using. this for ideas. This is not being. unleashed on the on the people the way. the management thinks it is. And it just. seems to me that there may there's going. to be a next creepy director who's using. the Harvey Weinstein thing for ideas. >> I hope not. Um that would be sad. Um, so. it's it would be very very upsetting.
>> Did you have you don't have to tell me. who it was, but did you have anybody. come to you after Harvey was outed as. just a creep pig gross man? Um, tell you. stories that you found shocking. >> Well, I mean I I read I mean you could. read it all like all the different. stories. They're all. >> But did you have anybody that come to. you and say Ari? >> No, I don't remember really. But they'll. all take your breath away. Like who does that? >> What do you make? Can I ask you about.
this because this has been the news. lately. Any thoughts on child actors, Ari? Because it's like every day you. seem to have another story of another. one oding or having an implosion. And. we've talked a lot with our audience. about how just just dangerous it is to. put your kid into a Hollywood lifestyle. at a young age. You you've seen it all. So, what do you think? >> Here's what I would say. You know, you. kids might want to be in the m music. business, in the movie business, in the. television business.
Parents make decisions. Parents have a responsibility in that. decision to kind of protect them. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Um, those incidents are sad. Um, and um, I'm lucky. I have four beautiful kids. My ex-wife and I scored touchdowns. Um, I think society has a role to play.
I think the industry has a role to play. and I think parents have a role to play. and people in power have a role to play. And sometimes, and it's really sad and. we can all talk, you know, there's. >> people get abused and that's not great. And I don't think that's the only. reason, but um. it's a sad outcome. I don't if you want. to be an actor, you want to be great. I. mean that's but there's. >> people have around you have to also try. and be supportive and that takes a lot. of different forms.
>> and so. >> I mean it's not really the agents who. are known for you know. taking advantage of the young Hollywood. actress. It's it's like those who are. doing the movies and who have the power. over them on the set. It's just so. disturbing. I want to keep going though. Um, okay. So, let me ask you this. Something that's always. >> that I've always wondered about you. since you are you are you got sharp. edges. No question. But my experience. with agents. is. most of them are total and complete.
suckups to the point where it makes you. uncomfortable. >> Suckups, you know, like to the talent to. where like you feel uncomfortable like. stop. Stop with all the fake praise. I. know what's happening. Like don't do. that. Do you do that? That doesn't seem. like you. >> No. I mean, I I think the job of an agent. is to. ride or die with your client. The.
definition I'm getting paid my. percentage for my opinion. Now, at the. end, I will give my opinion. If you. don't agree with my opinion or you only. agree with SL, you you're the CEO, whether it be a writer, director, actor, musician, whatever. We're all going to. decide what the endgame. But in the. process, >> I'm going to give you my opinion because. that's what you're paying me my 10% for. >> And then once we make the decision.
>> and we're all on the street, we're. driving. We're going that way. And so at. the beginning, I definitely give my. opinion. And then I live with the I mean I live I. you know we live with the con and I have. sometimes with my opinion and I won't. mention the clients I have said certain. things. that have gotten me fired longtime. clients and it's okay.
It is what it is. >> Well what one opinion you gave speaking. of Peter Berg was he was being. considered you write in the book uh roll. the calls for the a directing role for. American Beauty. Yeah. >> Starring Kevin Spacy, Annette Benning, and um. >> the one thing you said to him was, "Do. not, whatever you do when you go into. this meeting where they're considering. you, >> pitch for the lead female role, your. current girlfriend.". >> This is now giving me anxiety. >> What did he do? >> This is giving me anxiety.
[laughter]. >> Tell tell us what he did. >> You know, he was pitching it. All was going great. and I prepped him and he he did it and. he then calls me and he says they all. leaned back and he didn't you know get. the job and I said to him you know we. had a plan we were running a route down. and out I said what what made you go up. down out and up like like on a you like. what are we doing here and but I would.
say like in the book it looks like a f. crazy mess this book in my life at the. end the book's Great. I think and I've. had a great life. >> It is great. >> And Pete Berg has had an incredible. career and his talent. >> and he had an incredible girlfriend. Tell tell us who he was dating who he. pitched. >> He pitched Madonna. [laughter]. >> Yeah. I you know, so but he's his career. >> they say love is blind. It can it can.
also make men blind. >> Yes. He he landed on his feet as as did. Madonna. But yes, I can see why that. would have been a source of aggravation. to you. All right, let's talk, speaking. of aggravation, let's talk about Larry. David. >> So Larry David, you wore him down. You. Is that how you get most of the clients? Cuz I remember when you were calling me, it was relentless. It was nonsense. It. turns out that's your thing. >> I didn't get you. I mean, what the. [laughter]. >> I would have been a great agent for you. Incredible. I would have been your best.
I would have been incredible. >> I met your husband. I met Roger. I met. everybody. I was like, I think I think. I'm going to get there. No. >> Yes. Do you remember that you sent Roger. Al something after meeting with him? Do. Do you have any memory of this? >> Did I? >> He told you that he grew up digging. ditches. Yes. >> Yes. >> He told you that he grew up digging. ditches in Ohio. >> He He made some He insulted you somehow. about like you shovel He he said.
I'm a Democrat. and you know. and my brother's a Democrat and D and he. said like as if he worked with his hand. and came up from nothing as if I didn't. I'm like. f you like and you know he g gave this. whole long speech about digging ditches. whatever. So I sent him a shovel. >> Yes. It was so good. >> I've done a lot of those. >> If memory serves,
>> I've done a lot of those gift. >> He made some snide comment to me about. you like, uh, you know, he's he shovel. and I told you and then you sent. him the shovel. Like, you wouldn't back. down to anybody and it was a good nature. sort of ribbing. >> Um, but yeah, Roger would have preferred. I remain unrepresented forever. He did. not like the talent getting connected. with agents at all. >> Um, and that's where I am now, frankly. And the audience knows that it's it's. lovely to be independent, not not have. to No offense to you. I never had you. represent me, but in general, I'm very.
anti- agent. >> Wow. This book didn't help you get over. >> I had some bad experiences already. >> This book didn't help you get over that. >> It's Listen, you the man, I like you, the agent, I respect, but agents in. general, nothing but bad experiences. Here's what I would say. >> to defend a profession that I am in and. I have started in and even though I do. other things now. agents it's an incredible occupation in.
that you take an artist. you take their dreams. you figure out a financial situation to. make that happen getting them economics. and the freedom to make what they want. to make. you defend them. Um, and then. you make sure that when conflict. happens, you you. get through the conflict and then great. things come out of it. If you if it you. do it well, it is in and of itself one.
of the great art forms. >> Um, and it's on the business side of it, but without it, um, I think it's a very difficult for. artists to be protected. Hollywood is. Yeah. Yeah. I don't I think in news it's. it's a lot easier. And you know, if. you're. >> Do you think it's a lot easier now? I. think it's getting harder in news. because of what's happening. >> Oh, that could be. I don't know. With. me, I only ever used an agent to. negotiate a deal like toward the end of. my time in in cable news. And that it.
was pointless because I can negotiate my. own deal. Not everybody can or wants to. Um, but I just always felt like it's. just a waste of your money cuz unless. you're going to really use your agent. and Hollywood makes sense because you're. going from project to project. You got a. lot to manage in news. It's like you. sign a three-year deal. Why give away? >> Here's the thing. All right. I want to. keep going. >> Keep going. >> We got to talk about Megan Markle. I'll. get back to Larry David. >> So, you recently told the Sunday Times. it was a great thing that you were no. longer having to think about her.
>> Yeah. >> Why? Why is that great? >> Listen, I got a busy life. She is finding her voice. I'm happy for. her. We're we're The great thing I hope. as a parent of starting William Morris. Endeavor is there's people here that. they can handle stuff and and handle. clients. And for me, I I just had a lot. on my plate with I've started a new. company. I run TKO. I have clients. And.
it was it was better to let them deal. with her and execute against her needs. and her desires. And I'm happy that. everybody's doing it for me. >> than to have you do. >> that. I I couldn't I couldn't it. couldn't occupy I didn't want it. occupying my brain. And when I'm. involved in somebody, it constantly when. I wake up in the morning, clients occupy. my brain. When that's what happens and I. just didn't want to do that anymore. Having nothing about her, I just needed.
to move on to other things I was doing. >> Did you find there was a big appetite. for her services? >> Well, I mean, you know, I I I think. there's a bunch of things that our. people are doing for her now. So, that's. a good thing. I'm just not involved. I'm not involved. And not in a bad way. I just I just have. >> a lot on my plate and I h I have to be. rageful and all those things. cuz I. can't, you know, on her behalf, I can't. be.
>> saying. you did represent her and then somehow. you didn't. And clearly you made that. decision. >> I just I just had to shift my focus to. other things that were a priority for. me. >> Things that actually could get bookings. and and make money for. >> the great thing is. I hope I've done with my own children, my four kids. You have to let them grow. up. I don't want to be a helicopter. parent. And here at the agency,
agents can go do their job. They've been. taught really well. They are do they're doing their job. Fantastic. [laughter]. >> It's It's doesn't seem to be going that. well actually, but I don't think there. she's actually getting booked and. there's reality stuff and TV stuff. They're doing stuff. >> I don't know about it. >> Oh, really? [laughter] You are so full of it. This. is the first thing I've had you where I. got you on the ropes, man. You are full.
of it. >> You've had me on the ropes for now 42. minutes. What are you talking about? [laughter]. >> Okay, I will let you off the hook and I. I'll bring you over to safer ground, which is Larry David. >> Yeah. >> Um, you wore him down. He decided to. represent you. And is it true what this. stuff about what he allegedly said at. your wedding that he called you a. mutant, a freak of nature, and even the. C-word? >> The C-word multiple times. My mom, who. has lost her hearing, couldn't figure. out what he was saying. It was It was.
one of the First of all, Larry David is truly. a gift. One of the funniest people ever, creators of all time. The show he just finished actually for. the Obamas and HBO was I think. unbelievably inventive and and. hysterical skits. and he's a really great friend. Um. and yeah, he went on he he you know he.
roasted me. >> What did your what did your mom think he. called you? I don't remember what she. thought, but it wasn't the word he said. [laughter]. >> Here. Here. I I I think it was couch. She thought he was calling you a couch. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Sweet mom. Okay. >> All right. Let me do a couple quick hits. with you. Can you give me a couple quick. answers? Or you can you can pass if you. feel you must.
>> Um, who's got the biggest power? The who. has got the biggest star power in a. room? just generally. mean in in Hollywood like Hollywood. people. >> Yeah. You know them all. Like you've. been in the presence of all these major. stars. Who's got the biggest star power. in the room? >> Well, as an actor on on serious stuff, um. probably um Leo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck,
uh Dwayne Johnson. group. Does that make sense? >> Who is the biggest ond. comedy? It's Adam Sandler. >> Yeah, >> Adam Sandler. >> Who's the biggest ass in the room? >> I think most people in Hollywood would. say me. [laughter]. >> That's rough. Who's the biggest diva? Um,
I won't deal with the diva. So, I don't. really I don't I don't know. >> Doesn't have to be a bad thing. >> I don't know. >> Diva can be. >> I don't know. >> Neutral. >> I don't I don't I don't I won't No. longer in my life will I deal with the. diva. >> Oh, that explains what happened between. you and Megan Markle. >> That's you. That's you, my love. That's. you. [laughter]. >> Okay. What? Who is the nicest guy in the. industry? >> Well, I have incredible clients. So, you.
know, you talk about Larry David, Pete, um Tyler Perry, incredible. Jonah Hill. has been incredible. Jim Brooks, uh Greg. Daniels, I mean, I have like I have I. ride or die with really great clients. I. am now, you know, Marty Scorsesei, unbelievable. They're they're these are. great people. Mhm. Is it is are those names that. anybody would like to work with just. because they're so enjoyable? Like they.
they show up, they work hard, that kind. of person. >> Yeah. I mean, that's a that's that's a. like that's the creme de la creme. >> I mean, I'm I'm honored to I'm honored. to be in business with those people. >> How about for a female? Like who's who's. the nicest female you've worked with? Um, Megan Markle. >> Oh, can I tell you one of the great one.
of the best female. >> You need that shovel back. >> One of the great one of the great female. um people ever. Uh, Oprah Winfrey. She's. incredible. Generous, thoughtful, kind, incredible. Very successful. Very successful. What. What about. >> put uh putting yours truly to the side? The biggest star who ever got away?
>> Well, I What do you mean? Like they I I. was representing them and then they. fired me. >> that or they just wouldn't sign with. you? >> You know, here's what I think about. that. Can I just say this? And this is. not the shovel again. >> Yeah. I'm I I'm I'm supposed to represent who. I represent because of my personality. Them, they know what they got. Yes. >> The biggest star that got away, >> you.
[laughter]. If it was meant to be. >> Exactly. >> We'll still come back together. >> Exactly. >> That's right. >> Maybe this whole thing was just a. roundabout way of actually. >> I'm going to get I'm going to get back. in now. The calls are going to start. [laughter]. >> God help me. And you've got the number. That's what's really scary. All right, listen. The book is called Roll the. Calls. You You'll see it in your store. because it's orange. It stands out and.
it says Ari Emanuel on it. It's well. worth your time to get to New York Times. besteller. One of a kind. Super easy. >> My mom loves me a little. >> I mean, that's amazing. >> My mom loves me a little bit. >> What I'm saying is even better than. that. >> She loves me a little. What I was saying. is even better than that, which is I'll. give it my personal endorsement is. highly entertaining and like your. brother Rob, authentic. Thanks for being. here, Ari. All the best. >> Thank you so much. >> Lots of love. >> Byebye. >> See you soon. What a guy, right? Take in. your thoughts. [laughter]. Megan at Megan Kelly.com.
