Security Failures Lead to Trump Assassination Attempt at WHCD, and Melania Wants Kimmel To Be FIRED

Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome. to the Megyn Kelly's Show. Happy Monday. everyone. And we begin with the. continued fallout from yet. another. assassination attempt. The third that we. know about of President Donald Trump. I. mean really I think it's the fourth. You. could argue it's the fifth, but it's I. think it's the fourth. Um there was that. guy who breached the White House. and like tried to set it on fire. Um in. the sorry, not the White House, the. Mar-a-Lago [clears throat] perimeter. Um. it happened Saturday night, the latest. in the Washington Hilton Hotel at the.

annual White House Correspondents. Association Dinner. The very first that. Mr. Trump has attended as president. He's been. refusing to go all the other times uh. when they had it and he was president. because of his contentious relationship. with the press. So this was a big deal. that he was actually going to show up. The entire cabinet basically was there. Several luminaries from Congress. um members of. And that's the same hotel. where President Ronald Reagan survived.

an assassinate assassination attempt on. him 45 years ago. We call it the. Hinckley Hilton because it's where. John Hinckley tried to kill Ronald. Reagan. And I've been to this thing many times. You go there for the Radio and. Television Correspondents Dinner, you go. there for the Washing for the White. House Correspondents Dinner. And it's it's basically just a big like. cattle call. You go in the front, you. get your picture taken on the red. carpet, you mill about, you might go to. a pre-party at one of the little.

smaller conference rooms. um on that sort of first level. And then. you take a very, very long escalator. downstairs. into the ballroom, which is where the. main event is. So this guy didn't any get anywhere. close to the actual main event, but he. was certainly all over that first floor. And um. was intent on getting down to the level. below where the president and everyone. else was.

His name is 31-year-old Cole Allen. That's his name, Cole Allen. He's 31. He's self-employed. Says he's a video. game developer and part-time teacher. from the Los Angeles area. This is just. no coincidence. It's just not It's just. not. The more education, the more likely you. are to be a shooter. Or think that violence. to solve your political problems is. okay. We just We've seen it time and time. again. Did anyone think, "Oh, it's a. working-class guy from Ohio?" Uh.

no. You knew who it was going to be. My only shock was that he was 31 instead. of, you know, between 18 and 25. But, uh. the fact that it was a disaffected, relatively young man, well-educated, not. a shock. at all. Teacher, not a shock. He attempted to breach the final layer. of security at the event. Okay, so like. right above that that long, long. escalator that goes downstairs, there is.

a layer of perimeter a perimeter um. there where they have a layer of. security. And that's where you would. have to go through a magnetometer. And he ran through it. He ran through. the mags. with his guns, etc. Reportedly carrying. a shotgun, a handgun, and multiple. knives. You can see here, this just. came out. A picture of the shotgun that. Allen was carrying in a photo obtained. by the New York Post. More on Allen's motivation in just a. bit, but here's a quick recap of what.

happened. Allen booked a room at the Hilton in. early April. So, it's amazing. He like. he seems to have come upon this plan. this month. He traveled from Los Angeles to. Washington, D.C. via train, one. presumes, because they don't check. for guns on trains the way they do on. planes. In other words, Allen was able to travel. across the country and check into a. hotel where the president of the United. States and all of his top advisers and. cabinet secretaries were.

with multiple lethal weapons on him. According to CBS, surveillance footage. from Saturday. shows Allen, a graduate of the. prestigious Caltech University, leaving his 10th floor room inside the. hotel. By the way, this is hotel. surveillance. This is not Secret Service surveillance. This is like. there was no Secret Service. surveillance inside the stairwells, to. our knowledge. So, this is hotel surveillance shows him. leaving his 10th floor room where he.

checked in the day before on Friday. inside of the hotel, dressed in all. black, carrying the shotgun, the handgun, and. the knives in a bag, we're told. Instead of the elevator, he ran down 10 flights of stairs, emerging at the terrace level, one floor above where the event was. taking place, and the primary access point to the room. where the president was on stage. In. other words, the access point was that. layer above. That's where you'd go. through the mags. Once you got through. them, you'd go into the escalator and. get downstairs.

The event began at 8:00 p.m. Uh we are told that the president was. seated around 8:15 p.m. And at 8:36 p.m., as you can see in this. surveillance footage, Allen made a mad dash. past the final layer of security. Look. at Look at screen left. There he goes. through the magnetometer. You can see. the Secret Ser- that there's a Secret. Service agent, we believe, pulling his. gun. So, he comes on scene from the left. You. can see the outlines of the mag, it's.

white. You see the figure run through. And very quickly, guns are drawn. and he's out of frame. Right there, on his way. And indeed, he was not shot, but one Secret Service agent was. Several rounds were fired. And we do not know exactly. How? That one officer was shot. So one Secret. Service officer was shot. Thankfully, he. was wearing his vest.

And has already been released from the. hospital. But it's unclear if the would-be. assassin. Shot him. Or whether he was shot by friendly fire. That'll be one of the things that they. investigate. The suspect was not shot. So the Secret Service did not manage to. hit him. Uh Allen though did not make it beyond. the Terrace level. He was taken down. And you could see him. On his stomach in pictures with his.

clothing removed, but he did not get. close to Trump. He got he did not get. past that Terrace level. He was up. A level above as you can see. here in this diagram from the Daily. Mail. He. He wasn't that far away either and this. This. Don't kid yourself could have been truly. catastrophic. At one of those most. high-profile events in Washington. I. mean many of us are asking like how this. could have happened. Like truly what what's going on with the. Secret Service? Because let me tell you something.

Even with my own security and I'm not. the president of the United States. They've made clear to me so many times. that. That the best security is the one that. prevents the person from ever getting. anywhere near you. You know that it is monitoring exactly. what you're going to be doing what the. vulnerable points are. Whether there are any threats that kind. of thing so that. You know things like watching the hotel. Um making anybody staying there put.

their bags through a mag. In the week leading up to the big event. It's really not that hard. They do it in. other countries all the time. Um something like that like preemptive. security. Yes, the last line of defense protecting. President Trump did work. You know, the mags outside of where he. was sitting. Should we really. have to wait until he's that close? What if there were more than one? What if this were like a band of five. guys?

Um. They again, they they missed. If they. fired at him, they missed. He He doesn't have a wound on him. that we know about. Now, they they did. take him down. I'm not taking that away. from them. Just saying a lot of. questions about how it was. I said I guess the second last. realm of security around him. The very, very last would have been the Secret. Service agents right next to the. president. Thank God it didn't get that. far. You know, I personally I think about. what was inside that ballroom. Like.

Melania was to the president's right. The first lady sitting there. She. doesn't often appear with him at these. events, but she was at this one. And who was right next to her? A very pregnant Caroline Leavitt. I She I think she's like. literally 9 months pregnant. I think. she's due in a week. A very pregnant Caroline Leavitt sitting. there. Who was in the front row. of the ballroom? Stephen Miller and his very pregnant. wife Katie Miller. She's got to be due within a month or.

so. Um. you know, not far from them, Erica Kirk. who is not pregnant, but good lord, lost. her husband in an assassination. that took place. seven, eight months ago. Uh there just Steve Scalise was there. Who was shot in an act of political. by a deranged gunman. who was a Bernie Sanders fan. I mean, just.

I don't know. There is. there were a lot of especially. vulnerable people there last night, even. outside of the president, the secretary. of war, the FBI director, the acting to. uh. attorney general um. the level of catastrophe. this could have been. is rattling. It really is rattling. That the. president is not as safe as we need him. to be. Uh and the question really is what why.

not? According to the Washington Post, the. Trump administration. did provide a level of security at this. event that was lower. than other gatherings with high-ranking. officials. Like they did not unleash the same. amount of security that they would had. this been an inauguration or a State of. the Union. Why not? Trump, Vance, Rubio, Hegseth.

all the top dignitaries, all the people. who run this country were there other. than like House members and some. senators with you. they're they're more plentiful. There's There's only one secretary of. war. That was typical of a White House. Correspondents Dinner. Okay, so they. don't normally treat those like they're. a State of the Union or an inauguration. But in this new threat environment where. the president's been targeted. three times already? Where we had Charlie Kirk shot and. killed 9 months ago? Where Luigi. Manjione's about to go on trial for.

murdering the CEO of United Healthcare. and active political violence of sort. but. the environment right now. it. it feels. closer to 1968 than 2028 at the moment. White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. will reportedly hold a meeting. with the people in charge of Trump's. security now to discuss security. protocol. They say that she's been a big. backer of the Secret Service. and a defender of them.

And I think she's finally coming to see. maybe she's been a little too defensive. of them. It's not to take anything away from. those who did their job on site. But. once again, much like Butler, this seems. to have been a problem in the planning. Who's doing the planning? That's. what I want to know, truly. Who didn't have someone patrolling the. rooftops in Butler, Pennsylvania? Who. seated the rooftops in Utah when Charlie. was killed? And who didn't.

think to take a look at the hotel guests. or an outer perimeter outside of the. Hinckley Hilton. when the President of the United States. and all of these cabinet secretaries was. were going to be there? Who? That's what. I want to know. Who is sitting with the. pen and the paper and the computer and. the maps? That's the person I want to. know. Of course the guys on on site did their. job. Though we should talk about the aim.

problem that we seem to have with the. Secret Service. But like the the. planning on this, you don't have to have. a law enforcement background to see it. seems to have been woefully inadequate. inadequate. Look watch here how long it takes the. Secret Service. to remove President Trump after shots. ring out.

They've just now gone to cover him. after 10 seconds. All right, so the. shots had rung and the people are. getting underneath their tables and. President Trump is sitting there. It's he's sitting there. It took nine of. those 10 seconds before an agent even. came to stand in front of him. And the people are already under their. tables. What the. Yeah, why?

Uh as you could see from your screen if. you're watching this on YouTube, Vice. President Vance was removed from the. stage well before Trump. Why? Unfortunately, there seem to be a. growing number of people like this. would-be assassin who hold a deep-rooted. hatred for members of the Trump. administration. and who would very much like something. to be done. uh to stop them from governing. And this guy Allen did not do anything. to hide his disgust for Trump and his. team. Here's his post on Blue Sky on.

April 15th calling Vice President Vance. a piece of. for not supporting funding for Ukraine. Here he is on April 8th, the day the. ceasefire with Iran was announced. writing quote, "Trump is literally one. of those villains that if you beat his. ass hard enough, he'll join your team. Don't really have any other insights to. this. It's not really actionable cuz no. way Schumer just canes him into acting. his age, but like it would probably. literally work on him.". He also wrote a manifesto about his. assassination attempt.

which CBS's Nora O'Donnell read in part. to the president last night on 60. Minutes. Watch. >> The so-called manifesto is a stunning. thing to read, Mr. President. He appears. to reference a motive in it. He writes. this quote, "Administration officials, they are targets." And he also wrote. this, "I'm no longer willing to permit a. pedophile, rapist, and traitor to coat. my hands with his crimes." What's your.

reaction? >> Well, I was waiting for you to read that. because I knew you would because you're. you're you're horrible people. Horrible. people. Yeah, he did write that. I'm I'm not a rapist. I didn't rape. anybody. >> Oh, you think you think he was referring. >> Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm not a pedophile. You read that crap. from some sick person. Uh. I got associated with. all stuff that has nothing to do with. me. I was totally exonerated. Your. friends on the other side of the plate.

are the ones that were involved with, let's say, Epstein or other things. But. I said to myself, you know, I'll do this. interview and they'll probably I read. the manifesto. You know, he's a sick. person. But you should be ashamed of. yourself reading that because I'm not. any of those things. >> Mr. President, he said these words. Excuse me. >> You shouldn't be reading that on 60. Minutes. You're a disgrace. But go. ahead, let's finish the interview. >> The other thing that he wrote in the. disgraceful.

>> I got to tell I I had no problem with. her reading that the would-be assassin's. words to him. I I don't I don't think. that was beyond the pale. Like she's. trying to get his reaction to what this. guy said about the president. I don't. think I would have done it. Just I was. thinking it through. Like would I have. read those words to him? I don't think. so. But I have no problem with the fact. that she did. I do, however, have a. serious problem. with her weird "Oh, you think that was. about you?" What the What are you.

saying? Of course it was about him. What. is that? And she knows it. She's not an idiot. She knows very well. that was a comment about President. Trump. What is she trying to like get. Trump? Like, "Aha! It's an admission by. you that you are a rapist and a. pedophile. The fact that you you. recognize that was about you. You. recognize that was about him, too. That's why you read it to him. And if. you didn't recognize that it was about. him, then I do have a problem with you. reading it to him." What's the What is.

pick a lane. Which is it? What was that? "Oh, you think it was. about you?" Yeah, it was obviously about. him. Why are you faking this? You're so. fake. Like the acting. I honestly, it's just I. What is that? And I And the other thing is if you're. going to read it to him, if you're going. to read him that, somebody's saying he's. a pedophile and he's a rapist and you're. just. you're reading it to him because you're. reading the words of his would-be.

assassin to get, you know, his reaction, then you say, "Forgive me, Mr. President." Quoting here. And then he would have forgiven her. Trump would have forgiven her. He would. have understood she's not doing this to. be an. But she was doing it to be an ass. And. then she doubled down on that exact. thing and Trump picked up on it. We're going to have more on this. assassin's manifesto. in a minute cuz it goes on and it's. actually very interesting. I have to say. it's very interesting. It's like he. wants us to like him.

He wants us to feel sorry for him, maybe. He feels kind of sad or sorry about what. he's doing or he wants us to believe. that. And like he's not raging. like a mad raging like a madman. Like. he's not going to get away with an. insanity defense. This guy's cooked. But it's very interesting from those. standpoints among others. Uh and by the way, the manifesto which. makes perfectly clear his motive, he. wanted to kill President Trump. He. thought he was all those terrible things. and he thought it was his obligation to. stop him. Um somebody might want to tell. Barack Obama because at 5:15 p.m.

Eastern yesterday, hours after the. manifesto was released, he wrote on X, quote, this is former. President Obama, "Although we don't yet. have the details about the motives. behind last night's shooting at the. White House Correspondents Dinner, yeah, we do. We do. Why didn't Why are. you saying that?" He goes on, "It's. incumbent upon all of us to reject the. idea that violence has any place in our. democracy." Why did he write, "Although.

we don't yet. have the details on the motive"? We have. exactly the details, way more than we. ever normally get because the guy wrote. a manifesto in great detail. In great detail. He wrote about what he hated about. Donald Trump. He then went through. these might be the objections to me. doing this. Let me take them on. 1 2 3 4. 5 and rebut. why the objections don't hold water for. me and why I really feel like I do need.

to do this and I mean like it was the. most detailed you you could ask for no. better. Truly, like. what is he talking about? Like this is it's like a parody, you. know, like we may never know. We. We've been seeing that. with left-wing violence. We We saw it after Charlie Kirk. When the shooter wrote on the bullet, you know, fascist. Uh we. We'll just We may never know. No, we we. know. We have a good idea. If this guy. shot Charlie, he wrote his motivations.

on the bullets. So, just read the. bullets. This is I'm. tired of this. Like there are some things we need. answers to, like the questions we. outlined at, you know, the top of the. show. Uh. his motivations, not really. Those have been written down. They were. given to his family members, to his. friends, and to police. So, what of the Secret Service and how. does this keep happening? Joining me now for reaction, Pat. Brosnan. He's former NYPD detective and.

host of The Batcave with Pat Brosnan. Pat owned, developed, uh the second largest security company. in the nation up until just 2024. Uh so, he knows how to keep not only massive. retail spots safe with thousands and. thousands of customers coming through, but he knows how to protect dignitaries. and presidents and has with the best in. the business. And Susan Crabtree, she's. national correspondent for.

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the job. >> Sadly, this is another epic failure for. the Secret Service leadership, and I say. that deliberately because I once again, just like Butler, these lower agents, these rank-and-file agents, were put in. a place to fail and set up to fail. Uh. they performed. remarkably considering the. circumstances. Uh however, there were several elements. of this that are concerning. Uh one. being they were taking down the.

checkpoint, the magnetometer. Uh they. were sitting in more idly than a robust. posture uh when Cole Allen decided to. rampage through there. And then there was a sort of a bit of. chaos. Uh we don't know if there was. friendly fire um that was resulting in. the Uniform Division officer going down. and taking a bullet. Thankfully, he was. okay. These people put their lives on. the line. I There's nobody There's no.

better part of humanity than the these. agents and officers. So, I am not. faulting them. This is a serious. leadership issue at the Secret Service. I have been warning about this for since. Butler. I was very happy uh to report on. the reforms of the Secret Service. I was. expecting to report on the reforms of. the Secret Service. Instead, we've seen. failure after failure. And I'm told that.

uh I will break a little news here with. you uh exclusively that Susie Wiles. was pushing back. She was directly. overseeing the Secret Service and was. pushing back on DHS under Kristi Noem. providing a some oversight to the. reforms after several incidents that I. reported on. You know the code pink. incident where they got too close to. Trump in that restaurant nearby the. White House. I reported on people say. your agents falling asleep on the job at.

the UN General Assembly. Uh the fact. that Melania rode up that escalator that. was stalled. Uh there was a celebration. of Charlie Kirk's assassination by a. Secret Service agent. Most recent. recently two sex scandals. One broken by. James O'Keefe. My the one I broke was. last weekend where I asked the White. House, "Do they still have uh full. confidence in Shawn Curran?" Did not get. a usable response back on that. This has. been. time and time again failure after.

failure. And from what I understand, Kristi Noem was trying to do something. about it. Wanted to put a political. chief of staff Sorry, chief counsel in. after the one that Shawn Curran. chose crashed and burned literally was. in it pretending to be an officer and. got pushed out by the White House. There's just been so many incidents. I cannot even list them all here for. you. But it's the DEI is alive and well in.

the Secret Service. And you layer on top. of that this sort of culture of. corruption that I've been reporting. about since 2012. uh with the prostitution scandal. And. it's just still needs serious reforms. And for some reason, Congress is not. doing its job. >> Can you Can you just give us a little. background on Shawn Curran? >> Mhm. >> Is Is he that the Is he in charge of. Secret Service right now? >> That's the director of the Secret. Service. You have deputy director uh.

Quinn. Matt Quinn. Uh he has a cat. background. He has counter assault. He's. very, you know, he has all the. background he needs. Shawn Curran is honestly they rushed him. through. He was in charge of. of Trump's detail. He was leader of that. detail. And he had the receipts. He was. pushing for more assets from the Secret. Service, and as you know, Kimberly. Cheatle was being political and not. treating him as a regular president. She. was treating him as a any old former.

president like Jimmy Carter. Um he there was not enough assets at. Butler. Some of them were being pushed. over to Jill Biden's event. Uh she had. more post standards than even Trump did. that night cuz she had a similar same. 400-person event in a closed ballroom. Um that night. all of this is just you I expected way. more reforms, and I'm telling you the. White House pushed back on those on some.

of the reforms that they wanted to put. in. I have a statement I can read to you. by Carolyn Levitt. When I reported um. that Susie Wiles is pushing back on. this, she tells me this morning, "Nobody cares more or has pushed harder. or had has asked more hard questions. about President Trump's safety than. Susie Wiles. The insinuation that Susie. would object to anything that would help. strengthen protection for her boss and. friend is absolutely absurd.".

>> But you're reporting that it's not. absurd. >> That Susie Wiles. did push back on an attempt by Kristi. Noem to add an additional person uh. person overseeing the security protocol. >> There's two two attempts. One was to put. a political chief counsel in charge of. the Secret Service or put him install. him there. The other issue was a deputy. chief of staff at DHS was at the Secret. Service to provide recommendations for. reforms. This is recently, and he was walked out.

of the building when Shawn Curran. complained to Susie Wiles, according to. my sources. >> Wow. Well, this is relevant because what. we're what we're told is that the reason. that the White House Correspondents. Dinner did not have a higher security. profile is because there's typically a. DHS employee who would make the. recommendation. This one needs to be. bumped up. Like this don't treat this. like some random dinner. You need to. treat this more like a state of the. union. And our our understanding is that.

that didn't happen. That there that. recommendation was not made because it. I presume it had never been made in the. past. And I guess whoever the DHS person. was and I don't know if this is Mark. Wayne Mullen or somebody beneath him. didn't see the need not withstanding the. fact that this is not an ordinary. president. This is somebody who they've. already tried to kill three times. >> Absolutely. This they were using a 2023. model Biden model. on Donald Trump. It is the same issue. that was that we had at Butler. You.

Trump broke the mold when it comes to. the threats against him. The national security should be. should revise. all of their former models. They have. these models. That's the first step. When you when you get assigned to be in. charge of the White House Correspondents. Dinner for the Secret Service, you pull. out the old model. And then you revise it if there's been. any renovations to the the space, the. hotel. There haven't been. Um, and you. Right now though, are you kidding me.

with all of these cabinet secretaries in. this This was a disgrace to have all of. our cabinet and dignitaries under the. tables. It was a disgrace to the entire. world and there were warning signs that. I have reported on consistently over the. last year. Dan Bongino at the time, when. secret when Shawn Curran was up for this. job, said Shawn Curran is not a. reformer. He's not a change agent. Suddenly Dan Bongino went silent when he.

joined the administration about that. I. did not stay silent. I. I was ready for the reforms. They They. did not come consistently in terms of. getting rid of the DEI. that was that the Secret Service was. riddled with under Joe Biden. and. >> They have a goal of 30% female. workforce. >> That's exactly right. >> 2025. Mhm, keep going. >> That's exactly right. And they also you. know, there was a lot of things that.

needed to be reformed. There's an exodus. mass exodus out of the Secret Service a. brain drain from the senior talent and. now they're trying to hire really. quickly, but they have lowered the. standards. You no longer have to have a. college degree. Recently they lowered. the drug standards. It's completely. different than it used to be 10 years. ago. Uh, it's time and time again you. see it in the the people that they're. hiring. You had they missed a Glock at. Donald Trump's golf course in Sterling,

Virginia. I reported on that. They've. had like I said multiple sex criminals. There was a cat fight outside of with. between two uniform officers outside of. Obama's residence. I mean these are just. signs of problems within the Secret. Service and. when you have an agent falling asleep at. at the. There's also been an FBI raid and this. is when the Secret Service stopped. talking to me last year. They they used.

to get back to me. regularly and they stopped talking to me. when I reported on an FBI raid of a. Secret Services agent's home. And I think he was on presidential. protective detail. Last December because he was involved in. a tax scheme that involved. possibly 30 other agents. What is going on at the Secret Service? This was his moonlighting career. There is serious problems going on at. the Secret Service and you know, I was.

more than happy to report on the. reforms. In fact, I kept telling them if. you were doing some hiring at you know, for college athletes. So, if you're. reaching out, whatever you're doing, let. me know. I'm happy to reform on report. on positive elements. But, uh they never. engaged me and I I know why. Um there. there were some serious problems going. on on that detail. uh even couple months before. Donald Trump before the Butler. assassination attempt and the subsequent.

one at the golf course nearby his. Mar-a-Lago. Um there's some problems. going on in that detail and I reported. on those problems and ever since they've. been concerned about me. Um. and I'm sorry to say there were formal. complaints lodged against. Shawn Curran and his deputy. and they were cleared. But, Secret. Service is notorious for playing. favorites with agents and this culture. of corruption has to end. They retaliate. against agents.

and. this DEI problem has never been because. they have a hiring problem. They can't. really effectively deal with the DEI. issues that occurred under the Biden. administration. >> And meanwhile, President Trump is sent. out there like a sitting duck. because they won't get real about what. the problems are. Susan, I know you got. to run. Thank you for coming on and. giving us. your exclusive information. We. appreciate it. Great reporting as. always. >> My pleasure. Thank you for me having me.

>> Turning now to Pat Brosnan. Pat, what your reaction first of all to. everything Susan just said. >> Well, she's she's spot on. Well, good. afternoon. on the vast majority of the points that. she referenced. I mean, to be very. frankly, Megan, if if I had a burner in. front of the front burner, uh ramping up the president's security. detail would be on that burner. Uh throwing out the outdated model that. Susan astutely referenced from 2023, I'm in kind of a a little bit of a.

unique position. I've been physically. present. uh. by design and by coincidence at all four. locations. Um I went out out to Butler. cuz I had to see building six. uh in late July, jumped on a motorcycle. and went there. Uh I was out at the Irish Riviera, Long. Beach Island, so it wasn't a long haul. Uh and I went there and I took a close. look at the fields, I scoured the. terrain, I made some assessments and uh. and did some pretty significant.

reporting on it, painstaking detailed. reporting. But I also walked. the perimeter of the uh Trump National. and saw the area where uh. Wesley Ralph was secreted for 12 hours. Um. also as in Mar-a-Lago, I've been through. that north gate a hundred times. And then I've had a a number of. different dinners and business meetings. at the Hilton Washington. So, what does. all that mean? Well, it means a lot.

because uh I'm intimately familiar. and the fact is. that what we saw. Saturday night. was. a um. I would I would call it a catastrophic. failure. of the four C's, communication, coordination, control, and command. And that's the omniscience that's needed. and necessary and required when you're. protecting the biggest of all the big. shots. President of the United States.

Um they failed. >> What what do you make of these reports. that people are allowed to just come. into the hotel room, check in this this. shooter? Uh he he's checked in Friday, the event was Saturday. No one ever. magged his bags. He just ran down the. stairwell with his guns in his duffel. The woman saw him take the gun out, assemble it. She said I he ran out and. did a bunch of shooting. I mean so easy, Pat. >> Making this catastrophic failure on so. many levels, I don't know should I go. alphabetically, chronologically, or just.

random. But let let's start with the. Connecticut [laughter]. >> Let's start with the Connecticut Avenue. entrance to this hotel with 1,100 rooms, 2,500 guests coming in, and folks coming. in and out all week. Uh. At Brosnan Risk Consultants, my security. company, uh over the years we've. provided uh security for the Republican. National Convention. We provided it for. uh King of Saudi Arabia, the Prime. Minister, so a lot of different folks. So, we know a good bit about the.

protocol process and procedures that are. absolutely mandatory when it comes to uh. attempting to to completely sale-proof. and fail-proof uh in terms of not just. uh. the security measures, which were. uh delinquent and we'll discuss that, but the rudimentary stuff. like the due diligence. And the due. diligence is critical. Uh the fact that. they did not vet and do a background.

search. on all the. guests in that hotel for the prior 3 to. 7 days, somewhere in there, okay? Uh. >> Mhm. >> The significant failure and a. particularly glaring red flag with the. this individual, Cole Allen, is he hit both checkboxes. He's solo, and he traveled a great distance, and he got in the night before. >> Yes. >> Those are clues. Stevie Wonder would. have picked up on them. Let's be crystal.

clear. They're easy ones. They're ground. balls. I mean, stolen. >> I know this just from my own from my own. security team. Like if I travel, if I'm. going to be up close with people, and. they know who they are in advance, they. will they'll make sure it's not somebody. who's like appears to have a grudge, who. traveled a long distance, like all those. red flags. That's for me. Like this is. the president and the entire cabinet, virtually. It It's incredible that they.

allowed this guy to to get within a a. hundred yards of him, never mind a. hundred feet. >> Mind-bending. It's [clears throat]. mind-bending. When you think of the the concept of. layered security, this is the textbook example of what was. needed and necessary and was failed to. be implemented. A 200 or 250-ft lobby. and the distance from a Connecticut. Avenue uh west to the doors to the. International uh Ballroom, which is. subterranean, by the way. I've I've been.

there. To not have posted as fixed posts. um. armed and uniformed and plainclothes. armed officers throughout that lobby is. the height of negligence. It's It's the. height of reckless negligence. To not. have a fixed post at the stairway at. ingress and egress points is supremely. negligent. And to not have a fixed post.

at the base of the elevator is supremely. negligent. These are fundamental. >> Pat, why why wouldn't they have said, "Okay, we got to think about people who. are staying in the hotel and there's. going to have to be a person at every. stairwell." Like what? I I maybe this is just 20/20 hindsight. I don't know, you've done these things. before. Is that 20/20 hindsight or was. it Is that an obvious one to have looked. into? >> It's It's really a very obvious one to. look into and it's and it's coordinated. and implemented in conjunction with the. CSO, chief security officer, of the.

hotel. They worked hand-in-hand with the That's. how we operated. Our senior leadership. would interface not just at the RNC with. the CSOs of the specific hotel, but. hotels in every direction, east, north, west, and south for a few blocks from. Madison Square Garden and different. venues. That's called doing your. homework. That's called intelligent and. pragmatic due diligence, and it was not. done here, and it's shameful. >> Okay, how how about how about the fact.

that this guy, we saw the video of him. running through the MAG? There was one. MAG still standing. They were in the. process of dismantling the other MAGs. There's one that they were taking apart. as this guy ran through the one MAG. They seem to have like gone into, well, the dinner's started. POTUS is inside. the dinner. Like we're good. The people that we're. not going to let anybody else in, so. we're going to take everything down. Like without anticipating, Pat. >> Yep. >> But what if somebody isn't respectful of.

the 8:15 start time? What if somebody. comes right now when we're all feeling. super relaxed. with two guns and a bunch of knives and. tries to run through us? >> Hate to say it, cuz I was in civil service as a active. What you're seeing in real time, up front and close, the civil service mindset. Civil service. mindset. And that doesn't apply. >> Yeah. >> to this president. Not when we are now. in an everything, everywhere, all at.

once threat environment for the past 22. months, where you astutely pointed out, Megan, and no surprise that it's four. That's right, four. Call Austin Martin. on February 22nd and 26th. He wanted to go in and kill the. president. President just happened to. not be in in Mar-a-Lago at the time, and. they neutralized them at the north gate. of Mar-a-Lago. But to not have this at. this particular time is unbelievable. It. really is [clears throat] that that. these fundamental and rudimentary steps. are not in place, and and it the civil.

service mindset, and that's why I said. early on if I had a front burner in. front of the front burner, it would be throwing out the rulebook. as it relates to the Secret Service uh. methodologies, policies. That was before. Trump. That's another guy. That's Potter. or somebody, somebody sleeping at the. switch and unremarkable. is, if nothing else, extremely. remarkable. And he's And And he has. developed an army of of wicked, evil. haters who are.

>> [clears throat]. >> committed to murdering him. That book. has to go out. What has to come in? I. have some thoughts on it, but I will. save the first thing is it's got to be a. consideration for bringing in special. forces operators. They are the best and. the brightest and the fastest, and they. do not have a civil service mindset. They have a battlefield. mindset. It's entirely different. They. adhere better, and I'm saying it as. [clears throat] a former Secret Service. detective, they adhere better to. ironclad protocols. They're much better.

at at the command structure, reporting. structure. They would not ever be. disassembling a magnetometer. And they. would not, Megan, have had their faces. buried in their phones, which I saw on. various clips. Not in Not in this lifetime. >> I hate to, you know, ask this because I. I'm sure anybody could make this. mistake, but we saw. six rounds fired when that guy.

approached the golf course, you know, he. was lying in wait for Trump for 12. hours. And when Secret Service finally. discovered him, they fired on him six. times and missed every single time. Now here we see a collection of I think. it's both law local law enforcement and. Secret Service, but this guy, like. this is why we arm the Secret Service. This is why we arm cops who are there. sent there to protect the president in. case a shooter comes by with a gun. This. guy had two of them.

Ran right past the good guys with the. guns, who did appear to open fire and. once again missed. Missed and missed and. missed and may have actually hit a. fellow Secret Service officer. We're not. sure who. who hit him. And we don't know exactly. how many rounds if any of the actual. assailant fired. We just have this one. woman's eyewitness testimony saying he. shot a bunch of times. So we don't know, but like. does it does it surprise you at all that. there's so much missing going on? I'd. like to think that they're all like that. sharpshooter who took out.

uh the the the killer in Butler. But. these guys were a lot closer. They were. a lot closer than that sharpshooter and. with a lot worse aim. >> Well, again, it comes back to the Secret. Service mentality. You may be mandated. to train every 6 months, perhaps every. 12 months, I'm not certain, but probably. not much more than that. Uh completely. unlike the military. Uh it's a a. completely different set of protocols. for uh for practicing and for training. with your weapons. Uh and I I do concur.

Uh a lot of rounds do miss. We don't. have the facts yet. That may very likely. have been friendly fire Saturday night, but certainly at the golf course there. was a number of rounds of fired at uh. Wesley A. Roth. Uh and he was uh. unscathed. Uh but again, it it. [clears throat] comes to gross. negligence at every level. Even then uh. September 15th of the 24th the. International. one dog, Megan. one foot patrolman and one dog would.

have detected him in minutes. I walked. exactly that path where he was up. against the gate in the bushes. A dog. would have picked him up lightning fast. One drone. >> He was lying in wait. He was lying in wait for 12 hours, that. guy. >> 12 hours. 12 hours he was there. 12 hours. He had his little pack of. food. He had his uh waters, his. supplies, a little blanket for his. little leggies. I mean, you just can't. make it up. You can't make it up.

>> Mhm. >> 12 of. And it wasn't the Amazon forest. >> I I. >> I feel like Trump is going to get. killed. I'm I'm I'm very worried that. he's going to get killed. I if if we. didn't start taking this extremely. seriously after Butler, Pat, after. Butler, then we're not going to. I mean, so cuz Susie Wells is going to have a. meeting. Oh, great. Great. But like a. meeting, what are you talking about? Like I don't know if everybody should be. fired. What what If they if they call. you tomorrow and say, "Pat, please come.

in and take over. Take over all of the. president's security. All of it. Secret. Service everywhere." What's the first. thing you do? >> You bring in the best and the brightest. You pay up. I would make sure that that that they. made double so they wouldn't leave, which is exactly what I did at my. business. You pay up, you make sure that. the best and the brightest stays with. you. Surround yourself with them, learn. from them, forget that you're the leader. because. they've forgotten more than you know. And then take their collective wisdom, expertise, and and experience, and meld.

that into an ironclad. policy, protocol, procedure, training, vetting that ensures that the president. will not be murdered because I share. that with you, Megan. Every single day I. think that a bullet could catch him. And. I thought, mistakenly, sadly, that after. Butler, which was beyond biblical level. catastrophe, I thought and and and September 15th, I. thought when he was out of 46 and in. again as 47,

that it would have been. far far far superior. And it's not. These fundamental missteps, and they're. not even missteps, they're they're. catastrophic failures in terms of. planning. Textbook on the response, right? When he. ran through the magnetometer, but it's. all in the planning. It's all in setting. the stage. And. >> Yeah, never should have gotten to that. point. >> It's. >> What about the fact that J.D. Vance was. removed from the stage before the. president and the fact that all these.

people are under their tables, Pat, and. Trump is still sitting up there without. an agent in front of him, without being. pulled away? Like, how does that happen? >> He's a tough cookie from Queens. That's. all I can say. He's a tough cookie. He. wouldn't He wouldn't leave. And I. watched the 60 Minutes interview, and I. know from Butler because. a friend of mine was present, a Secret. Service agent, and he gave me the the. inside skinny on it. When When Trump. stood up with his fists raised, and he somehow kicked off his shoes that.

were tightly laced, they had to wrestle. him off that stage. They had to wrestle. him off the stage. He's a He's a tough. guy. I saw the same exact thing, and. they were yelling at him to hit the. floor and to crawl out. And he he just. stayed at it. He's He's really not. scared of these threats. And it's It's a testament to our. >> cool and composed. Yes, I know. He was. incredibly cool and composed. And of. course, immediately was like, "Let's. Let's go back out there. We'll have. We'll have the dinner. We'll have the.

dinner." Thank god they talked him out. of that. >> Cuz when I was watching it, I I. I remarked to the bride, I said, "He's. definitely going to come out and finish. this up because he won't let a criminal. thug disrupt his plans." That's how his. mind thinks, and that's what he kept. saying on 60 Minutes. But I guess other. minds prevailed. But overall, horrific. Horrific. It's It's terrifying, Megan. It really is. But these were fundamental. resource allocations, labor allocations, fixed posts, and this could have been.

mitigated. This guy should never ever. ever have been able to run through the. metal magnetometer checkpoint. Should. never ever have happened. >> Yep. I really hope they are calling you, Pat. Brosnan, and I hope somebody listens. this time before this happens again. Thank you for being here. >> Thank. >> Unbelievable, right? I mean, it's. stunning. It's like. Uh we're getting used to this. How How. crazy is that? Not just assassination. attempts on Trump,

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completely understand that there was a. real threat. There was a lunatic with. two armed guns, loaded guns and knives out there. But. the dramatics of some of these reporters. who are talking like they just got back. from 'Nam. >> [laughter]. >> I was like. okay. Like deep breaths, you're fine. You were. never actually in danger and they like. just the over-the-top. acting is a bit much.

Um, I'll give you just one example. Brian Stelter was out there today. comparing like the trauma that he went. through to that experienced by actual. shooting victims in mass shootings like. one we saw last weekend where a nutcase. killed his seven children. Look at this. >> Today I've been having some memories. come back from last night, but I've also. been thinking about Shreveport, about. the mass murder a week ago. I was. thinking about the the mall shooting in. Louisiana where that teen girl died a. few days ago.

The scourge of gun violence is all too. common in America and I've been thinking. about how people process it. My sources, my contacts, my friends who were in the. room with me, they're processing the. traumatic stress and I know for me. personally, the memories have been. flooding back today. I remembered. talking to House Speaker Mike Johnson 2. minutes before all this went down. And. then I remembered as we were crouching. on the ground, hearing people shouting, "Get down." And wondering if there was. some assailant who was loose in the. ballroom. So, those memories are coming. back. And And I'm also thinking about. how people who work at places like CNN,

people like this, we have access to. counselors. We have access to employee. assistance programs. We typically have. health insurance. But what about folks. in Shreveport, right? What about folks. uh who experience this in their. communities, in their hometowns, in. their schools, in their churches? >> Okay. >> [laughter]. >> First of all, Brian Stelter. tweeted out, "Oh, it was just a bunch of. plates that fell." It was So, like, which is it? You were so terrified you. need counseling, or you actually weren't.

one of the scared ones cuz you thought. it was plates. And second of all, like, to even raise. an actual mass shooting in comparison to. what he went through is absurd. Um I. I personally at my favorite of the night. was this guy Michael Glantz, who's an. agent from CAA, who never missed a bite. of his salad through the whole thing. And somebody took a video of him eating. his salad. I was like, "That's #goals.". Like, everybody's under the tables and.

he sat there. >> [laughter]. >> eating his meal. And then Dana White, I. was told, I didn't see it personally, but I was told he was like, "This is the greatest night of my life.". He was like on top of the table. He was. watching the security do his thing. He. was He had like admiration and respect. for them. This guy spends his life in. the arena, so he like He's tough to. scare. I Tom Bevan, you tell me your. take on it as somebody who was actually. there. >> So, I And I saw Brian Stelter's thing. And I I tweeted something back at him.

saying, you know, "Listen, there was a. moment. There was about 90 seconds when. after after the noise, right, Which was. this muffled sound that that we couldn't. be sure was a gunshot and you know, that. the the doors opened and the Secret. Service came swarming in the room like. 50 agents. And they were like plowing. through, climbing over tables and all. that. And that was kind of dramatic and. we would didn't know if there was a. shooter in the middle of the room they. were trying to get to or what was going. on. And everyone was looking around and and.

um but then we realized that you know, they were trying they were there trying. to get to the cabinet members and get. them out of the room. And once they did. that and they obviously they got the. president, the vice president, and the. first lady off the stage, then. there were that was it. I mean, we were. all kind of stood there. and for about 15 minutes trying to you. know, and and there was you there wasn't. good Wi-Fi in the in the ballroom, Megan, which is why like people couldn't. send texts or get calls or whatever. So, there was a bit of an information void. and then there was.

you'd hear well, someone said well, maybe it was a tray dropped or something. that you know, um. >> [clears throat]. >> but there was this bizarre reaction from. from folks. Some folks were like diving. under tables. There was a table right. next to us where after about 10 minutes. these two women literally crawled out. from underneath the the tablecloth. Like. they were under there the whole time. Um I just stood up to try and see what. was going on. >> like I'm not mocking them, but it like. when everybody else is milling about. like you saw these people who were.

crouching under the tables for for a. long long period while everybody else. had already started milling about again. and going about their business. And uh. they were giving off Michelle Kosinski. vibes. Do you guys know that reference? >> Michelle? >> She was the NBC Today Show correspondent. who was rowing her little canoe through. the non-existent flood and then the. firefighters walked right by her in like. ankle-deep water. It's like at some. point you have to stop pretending that. you are in the middle of a mass shooting.

and just eat your salad. >> Yeah. I I will say, you know, there. there were exceptions, you know, Erica. Kirk was there and obviously she has. trauma that's that's real and recent and. when she left, you know, she was in. tears and you know, Carl you know, RFK. Jr. was there. Obviously he's got some. family trauma that's wrapped up. But but. for the vast. >> But he had no he had no reaction. >> Yeah. >> RFK Jr. also ate his meal. His dad was. killed in a ballroom like this. He was. like, I'm good. Where's my What are we. Is the steak coming? Is it going to be.

medium or medium rare? Like there were. examples of people who let's just face. it like it's one of these things is like. a test of how you deal with trauma and. like fear and I think we'd all like to. believe that we look this is poor Katie. Miller. I feel so bad for her. She's. she's very pregnant right now and that's. clearly a Secret Service agent with her. Major Garrett and Stephen Miller trying. to protect her. And and if you're a. married to Stephen Miller, you'd have to. seriously be worried that they're going. to target him because of the left has. made him into such a villain. There's. Cheryl Hines running after they they.

swoop away the principal RFK Jr. They. leave the spouse behind unless you're. Melania. So she's running after. It's. It's not great to be the spouse. But you. do kind of wonder how you'd react and it. I do respect the ones I'm sure Tom and. Carl you were two of them who were just. cool. Just cool about it. >> We just I mean Carl actually went. started walk I mean he's an old school. reporter. I'll let him tell his story. He started walking away from the table. heading to where the where he thought. the action was. I just stood up and was. like we were looking around and just. kind of you know, as I said it was like.

90 seconds of drama and then the rest. was was kind of just a it was low level. chaos and confusion about what was going. on and that was it. >> Why is it always the Carl Cannon types? Like the sweet ones who you never see. who are like, I'm good. We're It's fine. And like the big burly men are like. under the table. Like everybody down. Carl's like, Could you pass the salt? >> Actually actually I. >> You explained it to me, Carl. >> I I I had a glass of wine in my hand, and all I say is I I kept it in my hand.

I. You know, you see those pictures making. [laughter] of those guys with the baby. at the ball game, and they catch the. foul ball without spilling their beer. while they're holding the baby. That You know, that's that's who you. want to be. >> That's you. Yes, [snorts] well done. Well, you know. what? You're a seasoned political pro. This ain't your first rodeo at an event. like this. I don't know. It's like it it. I'm sure it was scary. I do not mean to. take that away from those who were in. the room for like those. 10 minutes. And then.

after you realize you're fine and. nothing happened to you, you should act. like a normal human. But. a lot of these reporters truly are. acting like they just got back from. Fallujah. It's like, "Okay, can we Let's. keep some perspective here." I'm just. going to give you one more. Here's. Olivia Rubin Gold. She writes for the. Free Press. Thought I got a thought or two on this. one, slot 31. >> We were just seated over. I'm seated near one of the doors, and.

there's. People are shouting USA now. I don't know. I just heard like. four huge knocks by this door. Everyone. I don't know what to do.

I'm safe now, but. >> Okay, I First of all, you don't wear. mini pigtails to the White House. Correspondents Dinner. Second of all, she shows herself crouching. All the guys are She shows the guys All. the guys are standing up all around her. She's like the only one left crouching. And third of all, note to self, Olivia, to be a good. reporter, you turn the camera outward to.

film what's happening in the ballroom, not yourself. Is there a better example. of the vain glorious upcoming class of. reporters in America today? Keep it on. me. I'm telling you there might be a. shooter here, but I want you to see me. and how scared I am. Carl, I object. >> Well, you know what, Megan, you're. you're on to something. So, in my day, you you had the way you got.

to cover the White House, you started at. a small newspaper, you covered police. and courts and fires, then you went to a. bigger newspaper, you covered police and. courts, you know, then you went to city hall, you covered, you know, you covered and. you go to courts, you covered trials, murder trials. If you're really good, you get to go to the state capital, and. then finally you get to go to. Washington. Well, you know, those. newspapers, the pipeline doesn't exist. anymore. You got people covering the. White House who've never never never. covered a never covered a murder case,

never covered a trial, never. even covered a fire, and sometimes it. shows. Um, you know, Bryant Bryant. Stelter I I think Tom's as we speak in. sort of a exchange with his. his fans on. X, but you know, you don't compare. yourself to victims of a shooting. He He. wasn't at those places. He wasn't in. Shreveport. Having said that, there were people in that room, Megan, who had every right to be. very alarmed and very scared and very.

upset. You know, Tom mentioned a couple. of them. You You mentioned. Erica Kirk Erica Kirk is one, the the. White House press secretary is 9 months. pregnant. And I thought, as you did, Megan, immediately about Bobby Kennedy. Jr. I had spoken with him. at a reception at some length um just. before that half an hour earlier and I. he asked me where he was from and I talk. I told him and I told him he asked and I. told him the story about one of the. reasons I went into became a reporter. was when I was on my paper route in.

Sacramento the night his father was. killed his father and namesake as you. point out in a crowded chaotic ballroom. and I had had to hand out the newspapers. that morning to you know 90 and 6:00 in. the morning people were up there was no. cable television I had to hand the paper. and the paper didn't even have the. shooting it had Bobby Kennedy won the. California primary and I had to tell. people my mom told me. >> Wow. >> she said I said mom nobody will be awake. she said they'll be awake and I said. where's dad she said he he's at work he. was a newspaper man in Sacramento so I.

had this 3 by 5 card and I read these. and the route route usually took me. about 45 minutes it took me 2 and 1/2. hours this day and. the usually the woman in the house would. come out and people would hug you and. they were sad. and so Bobby Kennedy I ever write you. know you're right he you know he the sec. the somebody came and security got him. pulled him up literally climbed on a. table he's very you know he's big and. athletic and then his wife was right. behind him he had a. if he's traumatized he has a right to be. I don't know that he was. >> How about Steve Scalise?

>> Yeah. >> They had at least two people there Steve. Scalise and President Trump who had been. shot before in acts of political. violence I mean it's like. I I haven't seen Steve's reaction but I. saw you know President Trump was cool as. a cucumber here's a little of the the. the president I thought this is actually. a really good point he said this he held. a presser right after went back to the. White House held a presser the press. corps is sitting there in their ball. gowns and tuxes President Trump still in. his tux and he made a good point here in. stat 17.

>> I've studied assassinations. and I must tell you the most impactful. people the people that do the most you. take a look at the people Abraham. Lincoln I mean you go through the people. that have. gone through this where they got them. But, the people that do the most, the. people that make. the biggest impact, they're the ones. that they go after. They don't go after the ones that don't. do much cuz they like it that way. And when you look at the people that.

have. either, whether it was an attempt or a. successful attempt, and they're very. impactful people. Just take a look at the names here. The big names. And uh I hate to say I'm honored by. that, but. I've done a lot. We've done a lot. We. have. We've taken this country and we were a. laughingstock for years, and now we're. the hottest country anywhere in the. world. We've changed this country. And there are a lot of people that are. not happy about that.

>> And he he talked about how. his job is a dangerous job, and he knows. that in today's day and age, and he's. willing to take the risk. >> Yeah, most dangerous job in America, I. think he has called it on more than one. occasion. And he's right, and that that. uh. press conference he gave immediately. after um. I thought he struck the right tone. I. thought that he was complimentary to the. press. Um he said that he wanted to hold the. dinner again within 30 days. Um said.

that he wanted to keep the dinner going. that night. Um so, you you got a sense. of his resilience in these situations, which you know, are happened all too. often now, but this is what his third. time around in the last 2 years where. he's been the subject of an attack. So, he. you know, I hate to say he's kind of. used to it, and I hope we aren't used to. it. But, uh his his sort of. his affable give-and-take with the press. after that, I thought was was uh was to.

his credit. >> Yeah, he was magnanimous. He was He. sounded like the Trump. at the Republican National Convention, which was days after the Butler. assassination attempt, where he sounded. much more magnanimous than we're used to. President Trump sounding. You know, we're used to the the fighter and the. one who's like. "You're an idiot. You're a loser. You're. low IQ. Whatever.". Um. >> But But Megan, just do a historical. correction here. Um.

these assassins don't only go after. impactful presidents. They They tried to. kill Jerry Ford twice in like a month. There were two assassination attempts. He never hurt anybody or did anything. He He was a caretaker president. >> Buzzkill, Carl. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, I'll give you another one. James. A. Garfield. >> Lincoln. He's thinking Kennedy. You. know, he's thinking some of the Reagan, the attempt to kill him was the. greatest. >> [laughter]. >> I'll give I'll give you Kennedy. I'll. give you Kennedy. I'll raise you. Garfield.

>> Okay. Um here is an example of what I'm. talking about, though. Listen to him. He's like He's He gives a shout-out here. to Weijia Jiang, who's the president of. the White House Correspondents Dinner, who was the person sitting to Trump's. left on the dais, uh who organized this whole thing. And. now they're back at the White House for. this, uh you know, impromptu press. conference here in stop 15. >> But Madam Chairman, uh I just want to say you did a. fantastic job. What a beautiful evening,

and we're going to reschedule. >> that. >> [applause]. >> And after that, it's very tough for her. to ask a killer question, right? But you. have done a fantastic job. Please. >> Mr. President, I appreciate it. Um as. you mentioned, it all happened so. quickly, and I wonder, especially because. unfortunately, you have experience with. these sorts of threats. In that moment, when you realized there was a threat, and service agents were telling us to.

get down, can you describe um what was. going through your mind, how you were. feeling in that moment? >> That's very good question, actually. It. was uh it's always shocking when. something like this happens. Happened to. me a little bit. And uh that never changes. >> So, just a different tone entirely there, right? From a president who's normally. much more combative with the press, but. it was openly calling for actually the.

temperature to be turned down. I'll play. one more, guys. Not just between him and the press, but. with Americans. Here he is in slot 12. >> So, as you know, this is not the first. time in the past couple of years that. our republic has been attacked by a. would-be assassin who sought to kill. And Butler, Pennsylvania, less than 2. years ago, you know all know that story. And in Palm Beach, Florida, a few months. after that. We came close. We really had Again,

we had some great work done by law. enforcement. But in light of this evening's events, I. ask that all Americans recommit with. their hearts in resolving our difference. peacefully. We have to. We have to resolve our differences. >> I mean, I don't think this moment of detente. with the press will last, Tom Bevan. And unfortunately, I don't think and I. don't think it'll last on either part. I.

don't think the the press will be any. nicer to Trump, and I don't think Trump. will be any nicer to the press, and I. think we will devolve back into the very. low-level name-calling situation within. hours. But I also, unfortunately, don't believe. the president. is going to convince anybody. to tone it down, to resolve our. differences peacefully, as he said. There's just too many nutjobs out there, and the messaging around Trump has been. too ubiquitously catastrophic.

in its levels of hysteria. Like, I don't even know if you can turn. it down. You know, what do you think? >> And And look, Norah O'Donnell already. ruined it and. I heard your righteous rant on that. earlier in the show. I mean, you know, that So, it's already it's. already spoiled and and the you know, the headlines were, "Oh, Trump's state. talk with the press you know, is over". or something. I mean, she's the one who. who basically ruined it uh by reading. that quote and then pretending that she. was like, "Oh, you know, you think. that's about you?".

Um it was really really disingenuous. Um. but I think you're right. Look, the the coverage of Trump and I know. look, Trump has played into this too. He's used harsh language about his. political opponents and the left always. points that out. But. you know, when you look at the at the. shooter's, if we call it a manifesto, the stuff that he said about Trump being. a pedophile and a rapist and a traitor. and a fascist and all of that, that is. what you get on MSNBC every single day.

for 10 hours a day and have gotten for. 10 years. And so, I. >> Yes. >> He's not a He's not a mentally ill. person, this shooter. He's not some. deranged wacko. He's basically been. radicalized by the left and the media. into thinking that they create this. permission structure which allows some. of these people who who, you know, to. malfunction and decide that, "You know. what? I'm going to take care of this and. I am doing so My doing so is is.

justified and in some ways righteous. because I believe this person is so. evil." Um and they've done that and then. and then they all come out like they. did, you know, Hakeem Jeffries who just. last week said, "Maximum warfare every. day all day" uh is now like, "It's a. time for unity and I'm so glad that. nobody's nobody was hurt.". And they try and wave it away like, you. know, they haven't been. complicit in the demonization of this.

president in particular for a dozen. years. >> And the irony of course because Trump, while very. not normal in his rhetoric, is actually. quite moderate in most of his policies. Now, he's again he's been hardline on. immigration up until recently anyway. That's what the American people put him. in office to do. The polls showed that. the public was majority behind him on. the deportations and closing of the. border. But on most of everything else, Trump has been very moderate. Even like.

the trade practices and the tariffs and. all that, that's not right-wing. That's not right-wing at all. >> over Spirit Airlines. That's like Bernie. Sanders and Elizabeth Warren should be, you know, breaking out the pom-poms. >> Right. Like Trump is not radical in his. policies at all. He's just a fighter. Right rhetorically, he's a fighter. He. engages with the press. Just He gives as. good as he gets and that's led them to. hate him and write the worst possible. things about him. And you're right, they. all show up here. It's no accident this.

guy was well-educated, had an advanced. degree. He says things like um. "I don't expect forgiveness, but if I. could have seen any other way to get. this close, I would have taken it. On to. why I did any of this. Alert Barack. Obama, this part's for you. We may never know the motive. Here's why. I did it.". >> [laughter]. >> Oh, wait. Okay. Literally, he says that. "On to why I. did this. Uh I'm a citizen of the US. What my representatives do reflects on. me and I'm no longer willing to permit a.

pedophile rapist and traitor to coat my. hands with his crimes. Uh well, to be completely honest, I was. no longer willing a long time ago. But. this is the first real opportunity I've. had to do something about it. Um ba ba. ba ba ba. He then he goes through who he. he kill and who he won't. For some. reason he exempted Kash Patel. He. appears to like him. But everybody else. was fair game, especially administrative. administration officials. He didn't want. to have to kill hotel security, Capitol. Police, National Guard, hotel employees, or guests, but said he would if he had.

to. Um in order to. get to, you know, the the targets he. wanted. And then he goes on to say um. rebuttals to objections. One, as a. Christian you should turn the other. cheek. No, my rebuttal is turning the. other cheek is for when you yourself are. are oppressed. I'm not the person raped. in a detention camp. I'm not the. fisherman executed without trial. He's. talking about those Venezuela drug. boats, I think. I'm not a school kid blown up. or a child starved or a teenage girl.

abused by the many criminals in this. administration. I don't know what that. is. I'm not sure what that's a reference. to. Objection two, this is not a. convenient time for you to do this. Why not? I don't He's just making this. up cuz I don't think anybody would. have said this is not a convenient time. for the murder. Find a more convenient. time. But in any event, his rebuttal to. his fake objection is. um take a couple minutes and realize the. world isn't about them. Do you Do you. think that when I see someone raped or. murdered or abused, I should walk on by. because it would be inconvenient for.

people who aren't the victim? Objection. three, you didn't get them all. Rebuttal, got to start somewhere. Objection four, as a half black half. white person, you shouldn't be the one. doing this. Rebuttal, I don't see anyone. else picking up the slack. Objection. five, yield unto Caesar what is. Caesar's. Rebuttal, the US is ruled by. the law, not by anyone or several people. in so far as our representatives and. judges do not follow the law, no one is. required required to yield them anything. so lawfully ordered. And he goes on from. there.

And then by the way, he has a whole long. page on how incompetent the Secret. Service is, astoundingly so. Talking. about how he had free reign over the. hotel, no one stopped him, he walked. right in. There were no security. cameras. His hotel room wasn't bugged as. he thought it might be, I guess given. his rhetoric about the president. He. thought he'd see armed agents every 10. feet, metal detectors out the wazoo. What I got, who knows, maybe they're. pranking me, is nothing. No damn. security, not in transport, not in the. hotel, not in the event. Goes on from. there, it's just amazing when he gets.

onto that part. So, you guys tell me cuz I'm very. interested in this piece of the debate. You could, Tom's right, you could see. all those terms, rapist, pedophile, etc. on any MSNBC show, on any left-leaning. podcast, radio show, etc. But, the left has been doing this to the. right for many, many decades. You know, a shooter shows up, a mass shooter, and says something that tracks something. Trump said in a speech or Sean Hannity.

or Rush Limbaugh back in the day may. have said. And we on the right have said for years, nutcases are nutcases and you can't pin. their nutcase behavior on the words of. an anchor or a radio show host. And I. still believe that. This is my own take. I still believe. that. But I also believe that like. that. the incendiary rhetoric around Trump. is ubiquitous now. Like it is so out of control and so. constant, you also cannot just write it.

off like it had no effect when we keep. hearing it. out of shooter after shooters' mouth. You know, I mean, you I could say the. same same thing about Charlie. And then what wound up on that shooter's. bullets, but like. so where do you stand on. the rhetoric has something to do with it. or it doesn't have anything to do with. it, Andrew? >> Well, I think [clears throat] the rhetoric. does have something to do with it. Um. the. There's certainly well,

just back up one thing. Carl and I talked about this earlier on. our program. We should not refer to this document as. a manifesto, what you just read. It's. about a thousand words that the guy. wrote. It. It's pretty nonsensical. It doesn't make. sense. It's not When we we give it too. much credit when we call it a manifesto. There is such a thing as a manifesto. The Communist Manifesto is a good. example of it. I you know, this is not that. Um. but I think that the you know, there's.

You don't have to go all the way to you. know, a murderer like this, a political. murder to to understand why this level. of political rhetoric is bad. I mean, we. see it in our everyday lives. If you try to have a political. conversation with a friend right now, it's very difficult. Um and you know, on. our program where we kind of disagree on. things, but we're all friends, we're trying to model in some sense how. we used to have political discussions in. Washington. Uh and how we think.

it should be done. So, I do think that the rhetoric should be. turned down on both sides. I think that. would be nice. But I also agree with your original. point, which is that there are going to. be people out there. We live in a in a. country with all you know, a lot of guns. and a and a lot of freedom and a lot of. freedom to move around the country. And. if we don't want to live in a police. state, we're going to have to. sort of securitize the area around our.

our politicians and our our leading. officials. in order to keep them safe. I I don't. think there's any way around that. >> Yeah. That's right. So, we have that. this is a very good point cuz here's. what we have. We have the same security. perimeter around Trump that we would. have put around Carter at the White. House Correspondents Dinner, which is. just foolish. But it's especially cuz of cuz of Trump. and who he is. But But it's especially. foolish when you consider that we do. live in a cesspool of really charged.

rhetoric around this president and his. top. admin officials. And here's the third piece. Where political violence is more. accepted than ever. >> Mhm. >> Especially amongst young people. You. look at the polls like young liberals. are just fine with political violence. They in like some scary numbers. Over 20% are like, "Yeah, it's fine to. feel happy when somebody I don't like. politically gets assassinated. I'm good. with that.". >> Mhm.

>> And so. while I wouldn't say. you know, you can't blame this. assassination attempt on a Joy Reid type. who says the most incendiary things, Carl. You have to factor in that there's. not only that ubiquitous message. but there is ubiquitous leftist. celebration of political violence. I. >> I agree with you. >> I guess ubiquitous is not the right word. there. But it's it's widespread. It's. widespread on the left. I'm just going. to give you an example. Here's Karine. Bomb, another teacher.

This would-be assassin was a teacher. Um the Lucy Martinez who did the. shooting in the neck. infamous video outside at the No Kings. rally after Charlie was killed over and. over. to a to a truck going by with an. American flag and that praised Charlie. She's a teacher. Here she is. Disgusting filth that woman. And here's another teacher, Karine Bomb, teacher of young children at the. Children's House Ohio on TikTok. Watch. this. Sat 21.

>> Man, there's been a few creators on here. saying that like Friday or yesterday. could have been the day. And then I wake up to that news. but not that news. >> [laughter]. >> We're going to have to pay really close. attention. to what they're trying to actually. distract us from. >> One more. Another. another another sound bite here sat 22.

>> I wake up each morning hoping he has. died. I go to bed [music] each night hoping by. the time I get up in the morning he has. died. I'm fully convinced that we can't. [music] even begin to start fixing any. of our problems until he has died. [music] For the love of all things good, just [music] die.

>> Another teacher. He too is a teacher. And Carl, that that also relates. So. it's the acceptance of political. violence. Deb sent me the poll, YouGov. polling. 22% of liberals under age 44. say it's okay to feel happy when a. political opponent dies compared to just. 6% of conservatives that same age. So it's it's all that, but then. all these teachers have access to our. children coming up through the pipeline. What is what is the lesson plan look.

like in history, in English, even in. math and gym these days they find ways. of indoctrinating the children K-12. It's not just college anymore. Right? So. like. all these factors. have gone into why it's more dangerous. than ever. to be a Republican. Let's face it. It's. to be a Republican because it's our side. of the aisle that's getting killed. >> Well, I I agree with you. That that that. one teacher said we can't begin to solve. our problems until Trump Trump dies. I I.

would turn that around. I say we can't. begin to solve our problems as long as. we're letting people like this have. access to our children. That let's just. start there. Um you know, and and Megan. they're taught the the the mantra on. college campuses it started out that. speech is violent. You know, speech is. violence, speech I don't like is. violence. And then the the the next. level was silence is violence. Well, if. you actually say that, then then how are. you telling if you're teaching young. people that, then how do you tell them. that violence is wrong? Because, you.

know, it's like anything they don't. agree with is violence so that they can. respond violently to it. And I it it's a. real pro- it's it's it's a existential. problem for this country that we're. teaching a whole generation of Americans. that if they don't like somebody, they. it's okay to kill them or root for their. death. And it's not only that it's. so destructive, it's that it shows. they're not even capable of abstract. reasoning. We're teaching people not to. think because the abstract reasoning. there is, "Oh, would it be okay if.

somebody disagree with me would kill. me?" Well, no, I guess not. Well, they're not even getting that far. So, we're teaching a generation of people. first start proselytizing them on. politics. Then we're teaching them that. violence is okay. And then we're. teaching them not to think. And it's a. toxic combination. And I'll say one. other thing. Megan, to your original. point, you know, was Rush Limbaugh, you. know, responsible for the Oklahoma City. bombing? Of course not. Of course not. But, you know, you know, was Alex Jones responsible for. the nut the poor bastard who showed up.

at the pizza place in Washington D.C.? Yeah, maybe. And but this is not Alex. Jones types in the Democratic Party. These are members of Congress who are. repeating things from the Jeffrey. Epstein files that they they know are. false or they should know are false. And. they're they're slandering Trump on a. daily basis and demonizing him. And so. some there are going to be some people. and I this this shooter to me is clearly. not legally insane. He doesn't meet the. legal definition. But, he's clearly been.

he's been radicalized as Tom pointed. out. He's a misanthrope. He's he's a. malcontent. He's got this grandiose. idea. But, he's operating under things. he thinks are factual because he's been. told not by crazy people, not by Joy. Reid, not by ex- people who get their, you know, maze money make money by being. incendiary, but by member elected. members of the Democratic Party, leaders. in the Democratic Party who repeat this. stuff knowing it's wrong. And what. what's going to be the result of that? It's going to be this.

>> Yeah, the the the reference to a teenage. girl abused does suggest he's been. watching MSNBC or listening to top. Democrats who took those unsubstantiated. Epstein allegations and just put them on. the board as fact and accepted. >> only unsubstantiated. There's there's a lot of evidence that. they're not true. I mean, the I I don't. just say that I think they're lying. about it, Megan. I I think that they if. they thought about it for a minute, there's no evidence it's true at all. And and they should know that. >> Yes. >> Can I Can I just add.

>> but they ran with that. There I saw many. segments on MSNBC about those ridiculous. allegations. We did not touch them. It. was ridiculous. Go ahead, Tom. >> I just want to add one of the things. that disturbs me most about you play. that that clip of the teacher and and. the other one is is that we're. the the inhumanity. I mean, we're just. as a as a country. as individuals we're losing our. humanity. If you can't If you're rooting. for the death of another person or you. celebrate the death of another person.

for any reason, but but certainly be. over politics, over ideas, over, you. know, difference of viewpoints, I mean, you have really your soul has been. corrupted and and I don't know how we we. turn that around. And it that that's. disturbing to me most when I see these. people and I'm like, how can you. possibly. just as a as a human be saying and and. feeling and thinking these things. because they're so deeply inhuman.

>> Mhm. I know. I said before like I can't. think. of somebody on the other side of the. aisle whose death I would celebrate. I. just I. That's so crazy. I In in. people have asked me many times like. clearly President Trump and I have had. our ups and downs together over the many. years that I've been covering him. And um. I just I don't hold it against him. personally. I don't love it, of course. It is annoying, but. I don't hold it against him personally. because as they say and you guys know.

this better than anyone, politics ain't. bean ball. And it's like if you're going. to get in the arena and you're going to. have your own sharp commentary, every. once in a while you're going to run into. a politician who's going to elbow you. right back in the eye socket. rhetorically. And you have to be able to. take that without you know, getting too. personal about it, like making it a. personal thing. This press corps can't. take it. Like they can't take his return. rhetorical fire. They personalize it. They internalize it. They They grow to. loathe him. It's reflected in their.

their coverage. Um it's just got to. stop. We got to get back to the way it. used to be when when the reporters would. try. to be objective and at a minimum to. project objectivity, to remove the adjectives from their. reporting. You know, Carl, I came up in. a different way. I was I was. practitioner of law for many years, almost a decade, and then I got into. reporting, but I too started in local TV. and was out there doing snow preps, standing in front of the salt mines, you.

know, covering all like weather and. hurricanes and all the stuff. And you do. learn one thing when you're doing that, humility. You learn humility. That you. are but a cog in the wheel. That you are. a part of an important system, but it's. really not about you. It's not about you. when you're standing out there. It's. about the potential loss of life that's. coming your way. It's about your. audience who's watching you for reliable. information. It's not about you, Olivia. Reingold, as you're crouching in your. very weird double mini pigtails.

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places with what happened on Saturday. night. We've gone to most of them in. these 2 hours here today. This is one place. you should not go. This is not the. place. Maybe 10 days after the shooting, some leftist might raise this. Um even. then it would be dumb, but you. definitely within 24 hours, 12 hours of. the event, don't go here. on how the shooter took a train with a. gun. Watch this. >> Here in the District of Columbia, open.

carry is not permitted. You just said he. traveled from California across the. country by train. At this point, are you thinking at the federal level of. changing security protocols in any way. to, for example, match on trains what. you are expected to go through when you. fly, where you do have to declare a. weapon when you cross state lines? >> Look, this isn't about, in my mind, changing the law or making the laws more. restrictive around possession of. firearms. It appears he purchased these.

firearms the past couple years. We don't. know how those firearms ended up in his. possession in D.C. >> I'm not talking about changing the law. in terms of possession of a firearm. I'm. asking about crossing state lines with. that firearm and arriving the capital. If you try to fly, you do have to have. your firearms declared in some way. You. don't when you get on a train. >> That's. >> [laughter]. [clears throat]. >> We need TSA. at Am- track. That's where she went with.

it, guys. Cuz like, why don't we have. TSA before you get into your car? Everyone has to be inspected before they. at Avis, at Hertz, and then also at. their homes before they get into their. cars. and dare drive across the country, Tom. >> I mean, >> [sighs]. >> look, Margaret Brennan is. uh. she has uh distinguished herself, not in. a good way, many, many times over. [clears throat] the last year or so with.

her line of questioning, her performance. in the debate, all of that. Um and this. is almost inexplicable. You've You've. got how many minutes? 10 minutes with. the acting attorney general of the. United States to talk about a. significant. major news event that just happened the. night before, and this is what you. choose? I mean, it just. it boggles the mind, and it does It does. make you question, you know, what these. reporters are are thinking Um um and and.

how skewed their viewpoints are that. this is the kinds of questions that they. would they would. eat up that valuable time with. >> Well, there's a reason for it. >> She was more interested in virtue. signaling to her audience. than she was in actually doing. journalism. And you need look no further. than her stupid little arm tag at the. event for verification. She showed up at. the dinner. wearing a hideous dress. >> [laughter]. >> Hideous, gentlemen. I'm sorry, but it.

couldn't have been uglier or less. flattering. It's so bad. She's got like. the Madonna pointy breast thing. happening on the front of it with the. with the points above that, too. All. pointy pointy sharp pointy. No nothing. soft about her. And that's she needs. something soft given like the face the. makeup that's harsh the hair like. something feminine. And then these all. the way up to the shoulder um gloves, red as well, with the little armband. It. looks like a purchase price stuck on. there. And it reads same as Jake.

Tapper's little pocket square. Congress shall make no law abridging the. freedom of the press or of speech. Cuz. she really needed a virtue signal that. she was there, but she hates Trump. I've. got to say I was saying this to my team. beforehand. Don Lemon did this weird. thing where he was like, "I'm not. going." You know, he's he's a fascist or. whatever how he called him. He's like, "I'm not going." I got to tell you I. respect that. I actually if you believe. that as I'm sure Mark Halperin does, too, then do what Don Lemon did. Don't. go. He's right about that. Of course, he.

also thinks the whole thing was a hoax. that it was staged. That's what he's. asking every like. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. So, only can get only go so far in painting. him as the reasonable one, but. that's why she asked that question. She's got to wear her armband. And Carl, she's got to tell everybody there that. everybody watching her show that she. knows this is really at its heart about. gun violence. >> Well, that's that's right. That's what. this is. That phrase gun violence came. up and I I I I get it. I know what it. means and I I remember, you know, Jim.

Brady was the press secretary. I met him. once. He was a lovely man. He was. Reagan's press secretary. He was shot in. the head and grievously wounded, was. never the same and eventually died at. that same hotel. And his widow started. a campaign against handguns and because. a guy like she would wondered quite. properly, Sarah Brady, why a guy like. John Hinckley could buy a handgun. It's. That's It's a debate worth having. It. was an issue that I covered and I. thought her heart was in the right. place. But when Democrats today use the. phrase gun violence, they almost mean.

something else. Like the the way they. say it, it's like the gun didn't It's. like the gun did the violence on its own. and I I don't think this I don't think. this is a gun control story. Some Some. crimes are, Megan. This one isn't. This. guy bought He never had a record. He. bought guns legally, as you pointed out. in your in miracle way. He could have. driven across country just as easily as. taking a train. This is not This is not. really a story about gun control if. you're being if you're being honest, if. you're being if you look at the issue. fairly. Um but you know, we look but we.

have You want to be careful not to have. double standards. And you know, Tom and. I and Andy. we're we always talk about that on the. show and I think sometimes we're guilty. of it. I mean, we were just talking. about people dying, you know, rooting. for a person to death. Well, Tom, I I. mean, just didn't Donald Trump say how. he was glad Robert Mueller was dead? I. mean, this doesn't only come from the. left and this kind of rhetoric. And so, you know, I I wanted to point that out. as well. >> Well, it's true, but I would say I think. the vast majority of Republicans and.

Trump supporters. I mean, maybe not the most hardcore, but. the vast majority condemned that. You. know, like when when President Trump. does that, he gets ripped by his own. side. >> get ripped for that and you have a. point. Yeah. And he should [snorts] have. gotten ripped for it. >> They The left doesn't do that to They. don't self-police over there. Andrew, what did you think of Margaret's dress. and why am I right? >> [laughter]. >> Oh, god. >> I mean, question. >> you the most, Daddy. She wouldn't guess. you questions like that. >> I have [laughter] I have three daughters.

and a wife who would be able to answer. that in a heartbeat and tell you. everything [laughter] you want to know. about the dress. Uh I I think she looks great. I think she looks great. >> You don't think that. No, you don't. No. I deny that on your behalf. [laughter] I. deny it. You cannot deny it. I deny it. >> stay on his wife's good side. >> No, no. I I I I do not criticize women's. choices in dresses. I think I think she. looks terrific. And she. >> How about her choice in questions? >> Yeah. >> Uh there there I I think you have a. point. And I think um you know, the. interesting thing.

you know, the struck me about it is. if DC has these terrific gun laws, um. it it again shows that the gun laws. really can't stop this sort of thing. I. have I have friends who come out to the. Eastern Shore where I lived at the to. shoot. And uh. you have to be very careful about what. you when you're driving through. Washington DC with a gun in your car. You have to have it locked and. disassembled. I mean, there's. So, if you're if you're a you know, of a. legal gun owner coming out to you know, shoot some uh you know, clays,

um you take it all very seriously. because there's horrible horrible. consequences if you don't. But I think. for uh someone like this, obviously it. just shows that you know, if you want to. get into a hotel in Washington DC uh. with a firearm, uh. you can do it. Um. you know, I just. I do want to bring up Hasan if we. could for just a second because. >> Yeah. >> we're we're talking about um. >> He's a left-wing podcaster. >> And um. cuz it helps if you do have a sort of a.

a. a mythology mythology and ideology that. that. allows violence. And he you know, these. leftists, cuz he brought this up in the. New York Times last week. He called it. it's called social murder. It's. he he he quoted Frederick Engels on it. He said, "Brian Thompson, United. Healthcare CEO, was engaged in a. tremendous amount of social murder." And. that's fascinating story for me because. Americans are very draconian about crime.

and punishment. They're very black and. white on this issue and yet because of. the. pervasive pain that the private. healthcare system has created for the. average American, I saw so many people. immediately understand why this death. had taken place. I mean, to me that's. frightening. I mean, that is that is. justifying murder. through, you know, your a left-wing. ideology and I think that that um. that's one of the things we have to. contend with with this sort of rise in.

uh in in socialism in the United States. There's a lot of stuff that comes along. with the economic part of socialism. It's mostly. about using violence, actually. And um. people just should be aware of that. going forward. That's my take. >> Oh, you don't. Not to steal this moment for a book. plug, but my husband's book is about to. hit and it's called The Lost uh ca- The. Lost Fortune of Emmanuel Nobel and it's. got a lot about socialism, the rise of. it and exactly that, Andrew. [music]. Thank you guys. Um I got a couple more.

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off-point and inappropriate. Thursday night, he decided to do a mock White House. Correspondents Dinner as the comedian. who would have been, you know, invited. They didn't have a comedian this year. They had a mentalist. Somebody actually. made a funny comment about it cuz the. mentalist was apparently on stage. accurately telling Caroline Levitt what. her baby's name was going to be. Like he figured it out some some magical. way. And people were saying like he was.

literally on the stage when they like. kneeling down by her at the time when. the shots rang out. Somebody was like, "Uh there was a much. more useful prediction you could have. made in that moment if you really did. have the magical power, sir.". Um okay. Thank God everybody's okay. So, Jimmy Kimmel does this mock White House. Correspondents Dinner comedian routine. on Thursday night. And I'm just going to show you I'm. driving towards something here, but I'm. going to just show you. how unfunny the jokes were. Truly, we.

all think that we can be funny. but if you actually had to sit down and. write jokes. and maybe you've tried to do this for a. speech you you cross out everyone you're. like this isn't funny I thought I was. funny but I'm not I. wrong again wrong this is a much higher. art form than I give comedians credit. for it's not for me Jimmy Kimmel needed. to come to that realization. These are so on the nose like. 11-year-old.

humor like an 11-year-old could come up. with these stupid jokes they're so. obvious not clever not surprising. not even a mild laugh or like bemusement. as you listen to them watch. >> It's hard to get JD to come to an event. like this he's a real homebody his wife. had to peel him off the couch. Please do. not get up from your seats during the. performance because the vice president. will. them. Stephen Miller is so racist the. reason he went bald is because his hair.

was black. >> [laughter]. >> Stephen Miller puts the cyst in white. supremacist. If anyone starts any trouble fear not. because FBI director Cash Patel is. standing by. Waitress can we get Cash a. vodka soda and a booster seat please? Pete hair has more oil in it right now. than the Strait of Hormuz. Bobby Kennedy years ago he wrote in his. diary that he pulled his car over to the. side of the road to carve the penis out. of a raccoon and his son asked him dad.

why did you do that why did you chop the. penis off a dead animal and he looked at. his son he said BECAUSE I'M A. PSYCHOPATH. >> [laughter]. >> NOW GET OUT OF THIS CAR AND GO GET. MEASLES. >> I GOT LIKE I don't even know where to. begin. They had fake reaction shots from. administration officials. Um. nothing funny. nothing remotely clever. that didn't sound anything like.

RFKJ. He doesn't talk like that. He doesn't. actually talk like that at all. I for. some reason you gave him a Brooklyn. accent, which he doesn't have. And the laugh track meant to boost his. sagging audiences, I'm sure, like. smattering of applause. Even leftists. don't find that funny. That was so not. funny. Jimmy Kimmel is not funny. Um. And here he was least funny of all. What he said about Melania Trump now is.

making major news. You would think he would have learned. after making light of the Charlie Kirk. assassination, suggesting that the guy. who did it, Tyler Robinson, who's been. accused of doing it, is MAGA, remember? That led to his show getting pulled off. the air for five days, and then they. turned him into Rosa Parks on the left. But listen to the terrible quote joke he. made about Melania Trump during the same. routine. >> And of course, our first lady Melania is.

here. Look at Melania, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an. expectant widow. >> Who would make a joke like that knowing. the Trump had almost been killed. relatively recently? This is obviously. before Saturday night, but I mean. it is not an exaggeration to say that. Trump was almost killed in July of 2024. That that's recent. And for this guy to get up there and say.

she's got the glow of an expectant. widow? Like how insensitive can you be? Honestly, like Trump, he's got. children. He's got grandchildren. He. does have a wife. He has millions of. people who love him. And the glow of an expectant widow? How. sick are you? That I I. truly, the left and the desensitivity. that they're trying to create, you know, in people to the thought of political. violence.

is truly pernicious. It's. I It's a force for evil in this country, and he doubles and triples and. quadruples down on it every other week. Um. now, today, Melania Trump actually. responded, which she never does. As you know, Melania is. she does not seek the spotlight. Did you. see her by chance the other night when. Trump came out and spoke uh in the White. House press briefing room. after the shooter was apprehended, attempted shooter? Uh somebody asked a question about.

Melania and how she reacted. Of course, she hasn't been with Trump or by his. side, you know, she wasn't right next to. him on the stage in Butler or when Ruth. tried to open fire on him on his golf. course and so on. So, poor Melania, you know, this is I. hate to say it so cavalierly, but her. her first assassination attempt, forgive. me. So, she puts out the following. And and. by the way, so Trump said, "Do you want. to say something at the end of that. presser?" And she No, she does not like. the spotlight. It's very rare when you. hear Melania speak out.

So, she has today. She posted online, "Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric. is intended to divide our country. His monologue about my family isn't. comedy. His words are corrosive and. deepen the political sickness within. America. People like Kimmel should not have the. opportunity to enter our homes each. evening to spread hate." Wow, how about. that? "A coward, Kimmel hides behind ABC. because he knows the network will keep. running cover to protect him. Enough is enough. It is time for ABC to.

to take a stand. How many times will. ABC's leadership enable Kimmel's. atrocious behavior at the expense of our. community?". Wow. How about that, guys? And that is extraordinary. That's the. closest I've heard. to. her. Melania getting. I mean explicitly political and actually. appears to be calling for him to be. fired, obviously. Enough is enough. It's time for ABC to. take a stand.

How many times will they allow him and. his atrocious behavior. to go on? Well, no sooner did she post that than I'd say. two or three hours later we get this. from her husband. who is the president of the United. States. Wow, Jimmy Kimmel, who is in no way. funny as attested to by his terrible TV. ratings, made a statement on his show. that is really shocking. He showed a. fake video of the first lady Melania and. our son Barron like they were actually. sitting in his studio listening to him. speak, which they weren't and never.

would be. He then stated our first lady. Melania is here. Look at Melania, so. beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow. like an expectant widow. A day later a lunatic tried entering the. ballroom of the White House. Correspondents Dinner loaded up with a. shotgun, handgun, and many knives. He. was there for a very obvious and. sinister reason. I appreciate that so many people are. incensed by Kimmel's despicable call to. violence and normally would not be. responsive to anything that he said, but. this is something far beyond the pale.

Jimmy Kimmel should be immediately fired. by Disney and ABC. Thank you to your attention for your. attention to this matter, President. Trump. This pretty. explosive. I can only imagine the oh moment. that any normal person would have. after saying she has the glow of an. expectant widow. and within 48 hours someone tries to. kill her husband. I can like a normal person would have a. complete.

meltdown at that series of events. It was bad enough. Poor Caroline Leavitt. in a in a pre-interview. before the event got kicked off was. talking about the president's expected. speech which always historically. includes it's all about barbs against. the media. That's the fun thing of. having him there. You make fun of him. and do corrosive coverage of him all. year long and with your typical. president, they never say anything about. you and this is their big night to rip. on you the press by name and network and. so on. President Trump does it differently as.

you know, he's he's non-stop ripping. But she said, "Oh, there's going to be. some shots fired tonight." And some. nutcases on the internet are now. suggesting she was in on it. Okay, get. get a grip. Get a grip, people. Um that's a figure of speech. If you. haven't used the that phrase, you need. to expand your vocabulary. But this was, you know, pretty. extraordinary. for this guy 48 hours before to say, "She's got the glow of an expectant. widow." I mean, if President Trump, God. forbid, had been killed at that event,

can you imagine? Can you imagine? ABC would have no choice but to rip this. guy off the air once and for all. He's. irresponsible. He is so deeply offensive. Truly. Imagine someone saying that that about. Michelle Obama. Imagine. what the reaction would be. Just. think about that for a second. Think of if somebody had said that about. Erica Kirk before Charlie had been.

killed. Like. these predictions. I'm not saying that the the shooter was. motivated by Jimmy Kimmel. But to be. honest, who knows if he'd watched that episode. I don't. Um. I'm saying this is irresponsible talk. given his professional position. You. don't make jokes about assassinations. of the president, especially when. he's had multiple assassination attempts.

attempts against him. Okay, don't you. don't make light of it. Honestly, and and I'll say one other. thing. I can even understand in the wake. of an assassination. Easy for me to say, assassination. attempt. To like a comedian like Jay Leno who's. universally beloved and is not known as. a partisan hack who actually really does. hate the president who just got shot. making a joke like that was in good. faith. You could You could find a way. Like that's not in bad taste. to help the nation heal. That's actually.

always been one of the great roles of. our great comedians to help us heal. through humor. This was not that. We were not healing. from anything. It was in advance of a. massive gathering where he knew the. president would be attending. And Melania, too. And he was pretending. that he was at the event and that he was. the comedian there. And just sending the message out. to you know, whomever follows that show. that wouldn't it be funny? It's so funny. to think of Trump dead. And Melania.

as a glowing widow. It's just sick. So, we'll see. Balls in your court, ABC. You're not going to be able to ignore. this. You are not going to be able to. ignore both the president and the first. lady. She's even more powerful than he is in. this particular moment on this. particular issue speaking out. Uh we'll. see. Balls in your court. Do the right. thing. Honestly, like I can't imagine. this. Like think about it. ABC. fired. Chris Harrison from The Bachelor.

because a Bachelorette. on that show went to an antebellum party. years earlier when she'd been a you. know, young college student. And they thought that was racially. insensitive. And all Chris Harrison said. was "Are we judging her by the standards. of today or by the standards of when she. did it?" That's all he said. And ABC. ruined him. He's never been heard from again. Have. you seen Chris Harrison hosting some.

network show? Um no. His life was ruined. His career. was ruined. But you can say this as. Jimmy Kimmel. as like the face of ABC. You can say. she's got the glow of an expectant widow. about a a husband who was almost killed. at least once and two other times. attempts were obviously in the making. and now a fourth. very ill-timed. Too bad for Jimmy. What are you going to do about it ABC? Right?

Disney, they're the ones who fired Gina Carano. over a totally anodine online posting. about. World War and Hitler. and the excesses of the left. That she got fired? That was too much. her her tweet her one post online. Okay? Well, your move. What are you going to do? Let's see. You paid Donald Trump $16.

million when George Stephanopoulos said. erroneously. a factually that Trump had been. found liable for rape over and over now. you recognize the deep offense caused by. that comment when it wasn't true. How about. the libel of Melania Trump suggesting. she wants her husband dead. That's what you just did to her. Forget. what you did to President Trump there.

But you suggested she wants her husband. executed. How about that? You. paid $16 million. for civily found liable for rape. Are we going to do anything about she. wants her husband dead? Or normalizing the thought of an. execution? Anything? Okay, we'll wait. We'll wait. Look forward to seeing what ABC does. All right, that's it for us today. I'm.

going to toss it over to my pal Emily. Jashinsky on the MK wrap-up show here on. Sirius XM. And tomorrow on this show you. will be joined, as will I, by our friend. [music] Stu Burguiere. Can't wait. Have. a great day.