Red Light Therapy, Morning Routines, and Why Peptides are "Big Pharma's Nightmare," with Gary Brecka

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly Show. Today, we have. one of the most preeminent health and. wellness experts in the world. Gary. Brecka is a human biologist, biohacker, and influencer who sits at the helm of. RFKJ's Maha Action Committee. That's. Make America Healthy Again. Once upon a time, he worked for. insurance companies tabulating the. expected lifespan of their customers. Now, he uses those same skills to help. you beat the odds. He has millions of.

followers on social media. He has a hit. podcast, and he is in demand worldwide. as an expert in the longevity space. He's founder of The Ultimate Human, a. movement designed to help you feel. better, look better, and live longer, naturally. He has many, many prominent fans, including Joe Rogan and UFC President. Dana White, who said that, quote, "To. say Gary [music] Brecka saved my life is. the understatement of the century.".

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Gary Brecka, welcome back to the show. Great to see you. >> I'm so [music] excited to be back, Megan. Uh we had such a great time last. time. I felt like our time got cut too. short. So, maybe we'll have time to take. a deep dive on some things today. >> Same. There is so much I want to ask you. about. Let's just start at the beginning. and by that I mean this morning. The Gary Brecka morning routine. Go. [clears throat]. >> [snorts]. >> Yeah, you Oh, you want me to just rip. it? Uh. >> Yeah, let's rip it. >> So, so I have a I call it bookending.

your sleep, you know, so I have a. specific sleep hygiene that I use to go. to bed and the same thing to wake up. The thing about this routine is that. it's easy, it's portable, you can do it. anywhere in the world. I've proven it. number of times by uh sharing my sleep. scores onto Instagram. You know, last. year, I think when I did 14 cities in 18. days and was able to maintain 88% and. higher sleep scores even though I was. changing time zones every day for 14. days, people's ears perked up and they.

started to listen because the truth is. that sleep is our human superpower. And. so, I bookend it by using the same. routine to go to bed and the same. routine to wake up. So, morning routine. is within 30 minutes of waking every. day, uh I find my way outside into natural. sunlight. You know, what's fascinating. about natural sunlight is that it. doesn't get the credence that it. deserves. Sunlight certain wavelengths. that are only in natural sunlight that. are constant on, they're flicker-free.

I'm not talking about through a window, I'm not talking about through your. drapes, I'm talking about exposing your. eyes to natural sunlight. This helps set. your circadian cycle. So, we actually. have a clock in our brain. It's called. the suprachiasmatic nucleus. It's a very. sophisticated name for basically the. puppeteer in your brain that is setting. your circadian rhythm. And what's so. important about circadian rhythm is that. this is what governs your menstrual. cycle in a female. This is what governs. your sleep and wake cycle in all human.

beings. When your cortisol rises, when. your melatonin comes down, this actually. governs your digestive tract. It. actually sends signals to your digestive. tract that you're awake and peristalsis. can begin, which is why most people. don't use the restroom. and have a bowel movement at night. They. usually have it first thing in the. morning. And so, their circadian clock. is so important, not just to longevity, but it's very important to how well we. sleep that night. The one thing that you.

can do that is absolutely free to ensure. that you get a good night's sleep. tonight is get sunlight in your eyes. this morning. So, within 30 minutes of. waking, I'm outside. I'm in natural. sunlight. I realize people live in cold. climates, they live in dark climates. This light does penetrate through the. clouds, so it doesn't matter if it's. overcast. Get outside in sunlight, and I. do three rounds of 30 obnoxiously deep. breaths. And at the end of each round of deep. breaths, I I do a prolonged breath hold.

And the science behind this is very. valid. In fact, if you really want to be. blown away by what breath work can do to. the human body, regulate the immune. system, tap into our autonomic nervous. system, just watch the documentary on. Wim Hof called The Iceman, and you will. become a believer in breath work. I. think because sunlight and breath work. are free, people don't allocate it the. same. level of validity that it deserves. So, I'll do three rounds of 30 breaths. At. the end of my 30th breath, and I would.

encourage you if you're a novice to. breath work, just start with five. breaths, I do an extended breath hold. And the. reason for that is it allows the carbon. dioxide to build up in my bloodstream. Carbon dioxide is the main vasodilator. in the human body. The reason why we get. vascular when we go to the gym and. exercise is because of the CO2 going. back to the lung. And so, we want to. dilate that vasculature first thing in. the morning. This is a very simple way. for us to wake up. And our bodies are.

creatures of habit. They crave routine. You know, when you want your body to. trust you, you do the same thing at the same time. every day. Give it some consistency. Something that when you're traveling um. or when you're in a different time zone. or when you're staying in a different. environment, sleep environment, you're. at a hotel, you're at an in-laws house, something that your body can cue into to. know this is time to wake up. And if you. make yourself get into sunlight within. 30 minutes of waking, do three rounds of.

five to 10 to to 30 deep breaths with an. extended breath hold in between. If you. do that consistently for 7 days, you. will never miss another day. It will. become your new drug of choice because. nothing will make you feel better for. longer. Improves your mood, improves. your emotional state, gets oxygen to our. tissues, gets our digestive tract going, spikes our cortisol, reduces our. melatonin, and sets us up for a great. night's sleep that night. You know, [snorts] it's really fascinating, too, and we can get into more detail on this,

but if you look at autoimmune disease as. a category, 85% of all autoimmune disease is found. in females. And why is that? Um it's not because. autoimmune disease is selective by sex. It's selective by weakness. And very often, women, especially, do. not feel safe in their own bodies. And by safety, I mean out of the fight. or flight response. You know, our nervous system, which is. regulating everything, not the least of. which is cycling in in women, our.

nervous system has two states. One is called the sympathetic state, the. fight or flight state. One is called the. parasympathetic state, the rest and. digest state. You want to be in a parasympathetic. state to wake up, to go to bed, to. digest food, to uh regulate your hormone. cycle. So, some of these things that we. do tell our body that it's safe, things. are okay. This is a routine that you can. rely on, that you can learn to trust. And those habitual patterns are.

something that if you build over a. lifetime will pay tremendous dividends. >> Mhm. Oh, that's fascinating. Now, tell. me about um you men- you mentioned it. doesn't matter if you live in a cold. environment or an environment where it's. dark, you know, our friends in Alaska, for example. But, you know, typically. during the school year, most parents. wake up at 6:00 a.m. and that hour. because they have kids that they have to. get off to school, and it's dark. everywhere. Pretty much everywhere it's. dark at 6:00 a.m. You're not really. getting sunlight. Is the rule the same? >> The rule is the same. If you can't get.

into sunlight within the first half hour. because you're waking up too early, then. after you drop the kids off at school, spend 8 minutes outside facing the sun, you know, allow the sunlight to hit your. skin. I don't know if you've seen the. recent research that's come out on sun-. sunscreen and exposure to sunlight, but. the incidence of skin cancer is. significantly lower in groups that do. not consistently use sunscreen. Now, I'm. not talking about bathing in the sun for. hours. Talking about 8 to 12 minutes of. direct sunlight. Sunlight has.

wavelengths. They're constant on. wavelengths that pass through your eyes, and they trigger very specific. activities in the brain. One of which is. to tell the suprachiasmatic nucleus, this puppeteer, that it's morning, it's. time to raise my cortisol, it's time to. drop my melatonin, and it puts it onto a. very good cycle. You know, that we we. used to sleep and wake with with the. sun. Um and we are so disconnected from. the cycle of Mother Earth now, and our. schedules are so discombobulated.

Sometimes we get up at 6:00 a.m., sometimes 9:00 a.m., sometimes 4:30, depending on whether or not we have a. flight, we got to get the kids to. school, or it's a weekend, and we're. going to catch up on our sleep. So, that. consistency gives your body a routine it. can rely on. Um and when you are in dark. environments, if you take the kids to. school, let's say before the sun rises, you get back to the house, spend a few. minutes outside, do a few rounds of. breath work, very simple, go back. inside, and tell me how good you feel. when you start your day. >> Can I ask you about the the studies you.

mentioned? I thought it was. observational, but that on the. sunscreens, because as somebody who's. very fair, you know, I'm I am part. Italian. I'm more Irish than I'm. Italian. Um but. >> there's no evidence of the Italian in my. skin at all. >> see the Italian in there. >> No, my grandfather's name was Angelo. DeMaio. I mean, fresh off the boat from. Italy, but nothing. Um anyway, nothing. but the temper. That's I got the temper, the fire, but I didn't get the skin. >> [laughter].

>> Yeah, three you got the short fuse. >> But, you know, everyone in my family has. had some form of skin cancer. Thank God, no melanoma, but like the basal cells. and the squamous and all that stuff. And. I actually asked my dermatologist, I'm. very, very tuned into skin cancer. issues, you know, is this possibly true? Like, should I be not wearing sunscreen. and and my kids? And she was like. absolutely not. You you do need to wear. the the sunscreen, and your kids need to. wear the sunscreen. And. her take on that study was that.

it's. I don't know how to phrase it, but. basically, the people who aren't wearing. sunscreen. tend to be darker-skinned people, people. who aren't like me, who can tolerate the. sun much, much better than the likes of. me can. And so, yeah, of course, they're. not going to over long-term, if you. study those people, they're going to. say, "No, I don't use sunscreen," and. they're not going to have skin cancer. Whereas. if you took a bunch of Irish people like. me and put us out there for 30 years.

without wearing sunblock, our cancer. rate would be through the roof. So, what. do you make of that? >> That's actually not true. If you actually look at population data, I used to be a mortality expert for. large life insurance companies. So, we. studied population data, mortality data. I mean, you can make some broad. analogies. For example, some of the. longest life expectancies in the world. are centered right around the equator, 20°. Is it longitude or latitude? Latitude. from the equator. It used to be, it's. not this way anymore, but historically.

as you got closer to the poles, life. expectancy was precipitously lower. In. fact, when I started my career about 25. years ago, Eskimos, true Eskimos, had. the shortest life expectancy of any race. on Earth. And when you got closer to the. equator, you extended life expectancy. So, it's not whether or not you can use. sunscreen. It's the type of sunscreen. that you use. So, if you were to. actually look at skin cancer trends, because we've known about skin cancer. for decades before the advent of.

aerosol sunscreens and topical. sunscreens, we knew that there were skin. cancer existed. Look at skin cancer. rates in the '40s, '50s, '60s, '70s. What you'll find is if you if you. superimpose a chart, now this is. correlated, not causal, so you could. call it anecdotal, but if you were to. superimpose a chart of the parabolic. rise in skin cancer, it would be. superimposable with the parabolic use of. sunscreen. Does that mean that you. shouldn't be using sunscreen? No, it. means that you should be using a type of. sunscreen that has titanium dioxide or.

what's called non-nano zinc. You want. things that sit on the surface of the. skin and reflect sunlight. What you. don't want, because the skin is not just. a barrier, it is a gateway. It is a. gateway directly into the bloodstream. It's the largest organ in our body. And. so, we eliminate waste through the skin. One of the reasons why sauna is. one of the best ways to reduce all cause. mortality and cardiovascular disease is. because we use the skin to eliminate. waste, but it is not just a barrier. It.

is a gateway. We transmit medications. through through the skin, patches, creams, sprays. So, when you apply. sunscreens, para-aminobenzoic acid and. other um binders, fillers, uh agents. that are meant to create uh aerosols, uh. aerosol sprays, those chemicals, and. it's not the sunscreen. that is the issue itself, it is the. chemical carriers in the sunscreen that. show up in the in the bloodstream. And. if you look at that study, some of the. concentrations of these chemicals,

para-aminobenzoic acid being one of. them, PABA, um. were 400 times the safe allowable limit. And the the FDA safe allowable limit. And you would think that if I'm spraying. on my skin, it's not transmissible and. and can't be picked up in the serum of. the blood, but that's actually not true. The skin actually transmits a lot of. these uh. molecules right through the skin into. the bloodstream. So, it's the carriers. that are taking the sunscreen and making. it into an aerosol or making it into a. gel that's very easy to spread on your.

skin. Those carriers, those chemicals, transmit right through the the the skin. They get embedded in the dermal layer of. uh of the skin. They also enter the. blood. And this is where you have issues. with skin cancer because all cancer, regardless of its form or its origin, was at one time a healthy cell. So, there's no form of cancer. that was not initially a healthy cell. So, what happened to that cell? It. became metabolically sick. It shifted.

its metabolism. If it happens in the. liver, you have liver cancer. If it. happens in a lymph node, you have. lymphatic cancer. Um you know, if if if. it happens in the spleen, you have. splenic cancer. And so, what causes. healthy cells to become sick? Well, very often, what causes a healthy. cell to become sick, we know radiation. can do this, which comes from sun. Um we. also know that chemicals can do this. So, when we apply harsh chemicals to the. skin, we can very often cause an. accelerated shift in that cell's. metabolism, which is the genesis of.

cancer. So, if you're going to apply. sunscreen, and I am actually a fan of. sunscreen, there are a lot of. tallow-based sunscreens that use. non-nano zinc. There are sunscreens that. use titanium dioxide. These are. extraordinarily safe. Um when I was 19. years old, I was a lifeguard in Ocean. City, Maryland. Remember everybody had. the white noses? Um and then they. >> Yeah. came out with colored. uh zinc oxide. >> Yes. >> Um so, a lot of us had blue noses, pink. noses, whatever. Um those sunscreens are. extraordinarily safe. Um you can get. them cleared now. You can get them in in.

gel format. You can get them in paste. Uh so, if you're going to apply. sunscreen. >> Yeah, cuz that's the downside of the. zinc. Is it just it's so you're so. white. You go from white to even whiter. >> Yeah, you do look like Casper the. Friendly Ghost. Um and just by saying. Casper the Friendly Ghost, I'm dating. myself. That that I think that show went. off the air 30 years ago. >> there with you. >> Um and if you remember it, you're as old. as I am. Um. but uh. >> [laughter]. >> uh so, these topical sunscreens that. have titanium dioxide and zinc oxide, that's the direction you want to go.

>> Okay. All right. Well, I got it. That's. good to know. But now I'm getting. concerned. that I my my long-term editorial. producer, Debbie Murphy, she lives in. Canada, damn Canada as we call it, and. uh she's been warning me against putting. on the self-tanner, Gary, for a long. time. Long time, you know? Like when you're pasty though, especially as a woman, like you do tend. to want to fight it somehow. What's the. solution? Wait, just get a tan or. cuz like I never really considered I.

never really con- considered. >> There's a peptide called Melanotan. Um which will do it naturally. Um and it. will activate melanocytes um in your. skin systemically. You'll get an even. tan. Um if you do go in the sun, you. will accelerate your tan. So, you'll be. the darkest you you've ever been. >> Stop it right now. This is sci-fi. >> No. Melanotan, look it up. Melanotan, it is a very special. >> People are taking this and it's work.

it's making them tan? >> Oh, no question. Um, and and it has a a bunch of other. positive effects in the body, but. Melanotan is a peptide. >> doing this on the air. I'm people are. going to watch me tan. >> Well, come back and do and and do a. follow-up show in 45 days. You're going. to look like you're Italian. So, now. you'll start to fit your heritage. >> [laughter]. >> That's amazing. Can you Is it over the. counter? >> Um, technically you could get it over the. counter. It's considered a supplement, but you want to get it from a licensed. compound pharmacy.

What's called a 503A pharmacy. >> That's spectacular. Okay, great. I wish. I had invented that. That's very good to know. All right. So, wait, a a couple of other questions on. the morning routine. So, that you get. the sunlight, you wake up. Now, here's a. question I have for you. A lot of women. my age, we don't sleep well. >> Mhm. >> You know, it's like the the menopausal. process, which I've now found out takes. forever. >> Yes. Can start in your late 30s. >> Yes, like 15 years you're stuck in like.

whatever perimenopause or menopause, I. don't even know what it is anymore, but. um, you don't sleep well. I don't know. anyone my age, female, who sleeps well. So, I've told the audience before I did. start HRT, which I really like. >> Good for you. >> Uh, it's been actually kind of. miraculous and that I do do the. estrogen, I do the cream. >> Mhm. >> It's great. >> Yes. >> And I'm so dumb to think like, of course. those hormones can pass through my skin, but I'm fine with a self-tanner. Okay, I. needed this conversation, Gary. Anyway, so, the progesterone, though, it's a problem.

for me and a lot of my girlfriends. Like, not everybody tolerates. progesterone well. It makes me, for. example, super bloated, like. uncomfortably bloated and I hate it. >> Right. >> So, then the doctors are like, "Oh, you. can do an IUD." I'm like, "I don't want. to do an IUD. I don't want to do any of. that I'm not sure I want to do any of. that crap." But the problem is if you. don't you have to do progesterone if. you're taking estrogen to protect. against uterine cancer. That's what the. doctors say. But the problem is. um progesterone makes you uncomfortable.

and yet it's the key part of HRT that. helps women like me sleep. >> Mhm. >> It's what makes you sleep. It gets you. through these menopausal weirdnesses. And I wonder if you have any thoughts on. that. Like is there any solution for. women who are between 40 and 60 having. sleeping difficulty but who either don't. tolerate progesterone well or who just. don't want to do HRT? >> Yes. So first of all let me back up this. happens to be a core competency of mine.

and I think it's one of the most. underserved areas of all of modern. medicine is female hormone therapy, perimenopause, premenopause, and. menopause. You know, as you know that. the the US Food and Drug Administration. just recently removed the black box. warnings from female hormone therapy. because nearly 51 million women suffered. for decades because they thought that. hormone therapy and specifically. estrogen led to an increased risk of. breast cancer. We know that that is. patently false. You know, if you look at. the um study that that came from which.

was called the Women's Health. Initiative, one of the largest hormone. studies ever done, it was bastardized. and misreported and essentially what. came out of that study was not that. there was a 20% concomitant increase in. in breast cancer. There was a 20%. relative risk reduction in breast. cancer. And that's why I applaud the FDA. for that. Marty Makary did that before. his tenure ended. >> Yes, God bless him. >> And. they removed the black box warnings from. female hormone therapy. So let's just. back up. a little bit and and let's just talk.

about what premenopause and menopause. actually is, right? I mean when you're. in menopause you still have a cycle. It's just that your amplitude is lower. So, you have a very high amplitude. cycle, very definitive cycles between. follicular ovulation and luteal as you. are a menstruating female. And as you. get older, this amplitude begins to. drop. You still have a cycle in. menopause, it's just very. very low. So, it's important to understand first. of all that this this. cycling decline can begin in your late.

30s. And and the signs are not things that. drive you to the emergency room or take. you to the ER or get you over to the. urgent care. They are signs like brain. fog, waking, water retention, poor focus, poor concentration. The hallmark sign is. exhaustion upon waking in the morning, which is an inverted cortisol and. melatonin cycle, which I'm going to talk. about in a second. There is a gold standard test for women. And if your female audience is. listening, I think they should write. this down cuz it may completely change.

their life. There's a gold standard test. called a Dutch test. Um one of the most dangerous things to. do in female hormone therapy is to um. prescribe your entire complement of. hormones based on a blood test, just a. simple one-time blood test. A blood test. is a snapshot in time. A menstruating female, it's perfectly. normal for her estrogen to be in the. 400s. It's perfectly normal for estrogen. to be in the teens. So, who's to say that 172 or 210 or 68. or 99 is high or low? Well, you don't.

know unless you know exactly what stage. of her cycle she's in, follicular, ovulation, luteal, and you know whether. or not all of those hormones are. entering or exiting the cycle together. What happens in these different stages. of menopause is that all the hormones in. a woman's body don't get together in a. conference room one day and go, "Okay, girls, it's been a great run. We're all out of here." Right? They They. get together in the conference room and. estrogen goes, "No, no, no, I'm going to. stick around a while." Progesterone.

says, "I'm out." Pregnenolone says, I. think I'm going to hang out for a few. months and then I'm going to leave. Testosterone's like, I'm totally out of. here. I've been in here long enough. So, you get this. weird cascade of everything from lack of. libido to brain fog to weight gain to. water retention to mood changes to. emotional changes. The a a female's. attraction. to their spouse can shift um during this. period of time. Does it mean that they. don't love their spouse? It means that.

And and very often sadly uh in in. relationships we we couple. libido and arousal with love and. attraction. You can be deeply in love with your. spouse. You can be very attracted to. your spouse and you can have. no ability to be aroused and no libido. That's usually because free testosterone. is low. So, these strange things happen. where you're like, well, I'm. still in love with my significant other, still attracted my significant other, I'm just not aroused. I have no libido. Or you wake up in the morning more.

exhausted than when you went to bed. Or. someone that is extraordinarily. organized. This is what happened to my. wife. I'd encourage you to go watch the. podcast that I did with my wife Sage. Workinger because we went through. menopause together. Um we did the Dutch test and then um. she was very transparent, put her entire. cascade of hormones. She had every. symptom that a female could have all the. way through to frozen shoulder. Something called adhesive capsulitis. >> I have a friend who has that right now. >> It's menopause. Um I will tell you your friend is. between 42 and probably 54 years old. Um.

and it's very painful for her to lay on. her shoulder. She probably has a. difficult time raising it above the. level. Okay? >> Yeah, she just got a shot in it. >> Oh boy. She got cortisone and next. recommendation, tell her to be very. careful, is they're going to recommend. manipulation under anesthesia. Which is. where they actually put her to sleep and. they break those adhesions while she's. sleeping. They physically break those. adhesions. >> gosh. >> It's called adhesive capsulitis. Within. 3 weeks of starting hormone therapy, her.

frozen shoulder will be gone. My wife's. shoulder went from being raised to here. to straight up in the air, no pain. Your. friend will also tell you that it's very. painful to lay on that shoulder. If she. rolls on her. over on it at night, she'll it will just. wake her up. And she'll tell you that. it's restricted. And then she'll do. simple things like she'll bend down to. tie her shoe and forget that she has. this and it will take her to the floor. It's very very painful, this adhesive. capsulitis. >> Wow. >> This is a byproduct of estrogen.

metabolism. And if you wanted to have. one lever to torture a woman, it would. be estrogen. Right? Because as you and and and. estrogen is a category of hormones. There's E1, E2, E3. It's called. estradiol, estrone. They're These different hormones are. high and low at different times in a. woman's cycle, in her life cycle of her. menstrual cycle, until she goes into. menopause. By moving these estrogen.

levers, you affect skin elasticity. So. all of a sudden they look in the mirror. and they're like, I feel like I've aged. 10 years in 6 months. So the elasticity. is leaving their skin. Libido crashes. They the exhaustion in. the morning. They start to retain water because. remember the primary role of estrogen is. to retain water in the interstitial. space. The reason why estrogen goes from. high of about 400 in a menstruating. female to a high of about 4,500 is. because when they get when they get.

pregnant, um is so that you can. retain water, pad the uterus, protect. the fetus. So but when we're older, we. don't want to uh retain water. These. women think that they're getting fat. And they're not getting fat. They're. getting water retentive. This also. happens to women that eat in a very. narrow feeding women window, which is. why one of the most dangerous things. that menstruating women can do is. intermittent fasting in a very very. narrow feeding window. And you want to. frustrate a female when they start. intermittent fasting with their spouse.

Husband's got all the energy in the. world, he's putting on lean muscle, sleeping like a bear, wakes up like a. tiger, um doing great in the gym. A. woman's eating in the same narrow. feeding window, can't get out of bed, starting to get bloated, is also. exercising, is barely eating, and is. gaining weight. You know, that's because. you throw off the estrogen cycle and the. body starts to retain water. So So, let. me walk you through what the solution to. this is. The solution is a 24-hour urine. test called a DUTCH test. Um and you do. this test once, and what it shows is the.

entire complement of hormones. And don't assume that because some of. the hormones are tanking heading into. menopause, that all of the hormones are. tanking. In fact, I'd be very surprised. if the reason why you react poorly to. progesterone is because your. progesterone in its cycle is probably. normal. And you may be low on pregnenolone. You. may be low on one of the three um. estradiols, the the estrogen hormones. You're almost certainly low on.

testosterone and free testosterone. So, when you treat women for hormone. therapy, you replace the entire. complement of hormones. We do not shoot. women with rifles. In other words, you. don't take darts and throw them at. hormones. You replace the entire. complement of hormones. And the reason. for that is because it's called hormone. replacement therapy, is that hormones. are not cumulative. So, I often will open some of my hormone.

lectures by asking a roomful of. physicians, let's say you have two men. One has a testosterone of 200. One has a. testosterone of 600. And you're going to put them on hormone. therapy. Who gets more testosterone? The guy with 200 or the guy with 600? And the answer is they get exactly the. same amount. Reason for that is as soon. as I replace their testosterone, both of. their production is going to zero or. near zero. >> Oh. >> So, if I give each of them 200 mg of.

testosterone, then they will end in the. same place. Because hormone. >> If a man stops taking testosterone, will. his body kick back in and make the. testosterone again? >> Depending on how long he's been taking. it, which is why I'm a much bigger fan. of peptides, uh like kisspeptin, gonadorelin. Um I'm. a big fan of something called. enclomiphene. These will signal the testicles to. increase their production. So, then. they're high on their own supply. And no.

matter what anyone tells you, there is. no better hormone than one the body. makes on its own. So, as men age, um. they can develop something called. primary hypogonadism, where they cannot. produce their own testosterone. And in. that case, absolutely replace. testosterone. The evidence is clear. 2018, the Journal of American Urology. updated all of their clinical guidelines. on male hormone therapy. Having low. testosterone is a risk factor for.

cardiovascular disease. Replacing. testosterone does not increase your risk. of cardiovascular disease. In fact, it. reduces it. There are 10,000 receptors. for um testosterone in the male heart, one of the highest uh it's the highest. of any organ in the body, so you don't. want to deprive it of testosterone if. you're a man. Um there is not an. increased risk of prostate cancer, there's not an increased risk of. prostate enlargement, um and there is. not a correlated risk or causal risk for. cardiovascular disease. So, you replace. it if you can't produce it.

You stimulate. >> Got it. >> if you can produce it. So, I want to go. back to women for a second and close. that loop. A Dutch test will give your. OB/GYN, hopefully a functional OB/GYN, everything that he or she needs to say, "Okay, here are the hormones that are. deficient. I am going to bring those. back into the normal level. Here are the hormones I'm going to leave. alone. or I'm going to replace." And then you. replace that entire complement of. hormones and it is a game-changer for.

women. Because no woman only suffers from the. classic signs of menopause. Classic. signs are the hot flashes. Classic sign. is low libido. Classic sign is sleep. disruption. They usually have this. myriad of other symptoms that they don't. attribute back to, you know, the poor. focus, poor concentration, lack of. waking energy, um you know, brain fog. These are things. crushing fatigue for no reason.

Um. waking exhausted and then having what. they call crushing fatigue during the. day where they just feel like they. really have to take a nap. Your. listeners do not have to suffer. Get. that Dutch test, get it to a functional. medicine doctor and and and get those. hormones replaced. You're not increasing. your risk of breast cancer. >> So, now. not to beat a dead horse, but if if you. don't sleep well, notwithstanding cuz I. am doing the HRT and I love it. Um. there are some out there who are saying. like 20 mg, I don't know if that's a.

unit of creatine. and you're going to feel a lot better. and I've I've never taken creatine. I. don't know whether that's something we. should be considering. But like is there. any. >> [gasps]. >> like bounce back tool? >> Yes. So, there there are there are a. bunch of things that can mitigate the. effects of poor sleep. So, first of all, why is sleep important? Um there's two. [clears throat] phases of sleep that are. extraordinarily important. One is called. REM phase. This is where we are. assembling memory, right? Learned. memory. So, maybe you learned something. on this podcast today. Um and when you. go to sleep tonight, um your.

subconscious, your hippocampus, and your. prefrontal cortex, these two will. connect and this will become a learned. memory. You'll remember what maybe that. you learned during this podcast or a. lecture or an interview or another guest. that you had on. So, that is called. learned memory and that's assembled. during REM phases of sleep. During the. deep phase of sleep, something called. the glymphatic system is active. So, we. have lymph nodes in the body, right? The. lymph nodes that swell when you get a. sore throat. Um we have a glymph-. atic system in the brain which drains.

waste from the brain. And by waste, I. mean inflammatory proteins, cytokines, histamines. These inflammatory proteins. that if they are not drained from the. brain, will stay in the brain. And these. are the genesis of a lot of things. Alzheimer's, dementia, early onset. cognitive decline, which by the way. are not conditions of you losing your. memory. It is a fallacy that people that have. Alzheimer's are losing their memory.

They are losing access. >> your memory. >> It is correct. I am sitting right now, physically sitting in a memory care. facility. It is called Regentra. Um I have I'm checking my my mother and. my father in today into assisted care. It's actually independent and assisted. care living because. um there is a project here called. Regentra where they're using red light. therapy, hydrogen gas, uh vibration uh shake plates. to dramatically improve cognitive.

outcomes in the elderly. And what we are seeing coming out of. these studies is absolutely. mind-numbing. Um controlling their. glycemic profile, their blood sugar, um. and reducing these inflammatory. compounds. So, let's go back to sleep. cuz that's what you asked about. Um so, creatine is one of those things in high. doses that crosses the blood-brain. barrier. Um and what it does is it. creatine can actually mitigate the. effects of sleep deprivation. So, my. wife going through menopause um was.

having a very difficult time sleeping. I. mean, if she slept more than two or. three hours at a stretch without a long. period of waking, that was a good night. for her. So, she was taking 20 mg of creatine. daily because in high doses it does. cross the blood brain barrier and there. is evidence that it can mitigate the. effects of sleep deprivation. So, if you. are a female. over 42 to 44 years old, I would insist that you are on a minimum.

of 5 mg of creatine a day. Full stop. >> Is it something you have to build up, you know, like 5 mg for a week, 10 mg. for 2 weeks, and then graduate to 20? >> No, the loading dose was it's sort of a. bodybuilder holdover. where you did a loading dose of creatine. for a week and then you actually went. down to 5 mg. That's That's Those. studies are related to muscle. hypertrophy, growing. lean muscle, tearing a muscle, having. the muscle grow back larger. When we're talking about the cognitive.

benefits and the inflammatory benefits, anti-inflammatory benefits, 20 mg of. creatine split into two 10 mg doses is. very safe. Um. >> Okay. You just put it in like a glass of. water? >> Put it in a glass of water. Now, here's. here's the difference between the two. creatines. Monohydrate, there's more. clinical evidence on on monohydrate. I. am a actually. a fan of both monohydrate and creatine. hydrochloride, HCL. Women sometimes will find that they.

bloat less on HCL, hydrochloride, because it is 40% more. water soluble. One of the things that. creatine does, which is why bodybuilders. love it, is it holds water in the. muscle. But it also holds water in the gut. And so, dissolve your creatine. completely or use a. a form that has other carriers like a. Symbiotica gel pack creatine. Very, very good form monohydrate. Start. with 5 mg and then work your way up.

Don't do a loading dose at first. 5 mg. week 1 and week 2 you can switch all the. way to 20 mg a day. You will notice the difference in. cognitive function in 24 hours. Some. people even say the same day. Um, because sleep deprivation. um, doesn't it leaves these inflammatory. proteins in the brain, so you want. something to cross the blood brain. barrier and help get them out. >> The other thing. >> could do that every day regularly or. just save that for when you had a bad. night's sleep? >> So, if you don't have consistently poor.

sleep, if poor sleep is something that. is not common to you, so it only happens. when you travel, only happens when. you're stressed, only happens when you. change time zones, then you can save. those large doses of creatine for that. period of time. If you're going through. menopause or you're chronically poor. sleeper, I would I would recommend that. you take the 20 minutes. 20 mg of creatine daily. It is a. game-changer for cognitive function. In. this memory care facility, um, I'm in. Coconut Creek, Florida. Um,

these. uh, 80, 85, 90-year-old, um, patients. are on high doses of creatine, 20 mg of. creatine a day. My mother is on 20 mg of. creatine a day and it is having very, very positive outcomes on learn memory, short-term recall, focus, um, uh, concentration and complex tasking. >> you said the. What was that thing you mentioned? I red. light therapy, I know. That sounded. familiar. >> Mhm. >> Um, then there were two other things and. the second of that of them was something. about a shake a shake bed?

>> Uh, shake bed. It's low vibration. therapy. So, what happens in in in the. elderly and deconditioned people is, you. know, they can't get into zone two. cardio. Um, and they can't exercise. We. all know the benefits of exercise, right? We Maybe we can go down that. road, but if you don't, uh, you know, exercise is probably the single, uh, best hallmark activity to ward off. aging, all cause mortality mortality, cardiovascular disease. You see this in. blue zone studies. You see this in.

meta-analyses. You see this in all the. big. >> Alzheimer's. >> Alzheimer's. Um. uh which is now also being called type 3. diabetes. Um if you Google type 3. diabetes, you'll see that type 3. diabetes is Alzheimer's. Uh we used to. think that Alzheimer's was the presence. of neurofibrillary tangles and amyloid. plaques. That is the byproduct of. Alzheimer's. The genesis of Alzheimer's. is insulin resistance. So, if you only had one biomarker that. you were tracking and you said, "I'm. only going to choose one biomarker that.

I'm going to manage for the rest of my. life." If you managed your. um. your insulin level and what's called. your hemoglobin A1C, the 3-month average. of your blood sugar, that would probably. do more to ward off all cause mortality. than anything else that you do, which is. why exercise is so beneficial. But, they're doing a few things here. Um. one, they're using low-impact vibration. So, these these vibration plates put. several Gs of force through the body in. very short bursts, vertical bursts. The.

reason why that's important is it helps. the bones to strengthen and. remineralize. You know, for decades we. always thought that brittle bones was. low calcium. But, that is patently. false. Our bones are not even calcium. Our bones are uh calcium bound to. something called phosphorus and they. form something called hydroxyapatite. So, our bones are hydroxyapatite, not. calcium. In order for calcium and phosphorus to. bind, you need 12 minerals.

If you're missing any one of those 12. minerals, your bones do not ossify and. you get osteopenia or osteoporosis. You. can go to assisted care living. facilities all over the world and see. elderly men and women that have. osteopenia or osteoporosis um and that. have been on calcium supplements for 25. years. I promise you this, calcium is. not the answer. Minerals are the answer. Taking a mineral salt would do more for. bone density than taking calcium.

You know, usually these people are not. calcium deficient. Most of us are not. calcium deficient. By the way, if you. take too much calcium, it ends up in the. arterial wall. This is where we get, um, calcification and hardening of the. arteries. So, mineral salt is something. that should also be in your daily. routine. I take a mineral salt called. Baja Gold. There are lots of great. mineral salts out there. Redmond salt, Celtic. >> How much of that do you put in? I I. actually saw you mention that and I. ordered it. Um, how much of that do you put, like, in. the morning? My doctor actually told me. a while ago, start your day with a glass.

of water and put a little salt in there. >> Yes. >> Uh, he doesn't He didn't recommend it. for my husband who's. >> Um, >> got some high blood pressure, but for me. he did. >> But I you usually. >> is it just a pinch? >> You know, there's So, Baja Gold has a. liquid, um, mineral dropper. Um, this is. probably the cheapest biohacker in the. world and it's my favorite biohacker. Um, you can buy a. bag of this salt for about 15 bucks and. last you 5 years. I buy the liquid. mineral salt. It comes in a dropper and. I put two squirts of it in a glass of. water in the morning,

um, with all eight essential amino acids. and a hydrogen tablet. I put those three. things in water and I whack that back. first thing in the morning and I never, ever, ever, ever miss that. All nine essential amino. >> And that gives you the hydrogen and that. That gives you the minerals you need? >> Mhm. Um, I probably have those with me. I I literally never leave home without. these things. Um, so, hydrogen gas, this. is this is the one that I use. I want to. use one called H2 tab. >> a prop. >> I'm sorry. I'll take that out, but. >> No, I love it. The visual aid, everybody.

loves the visual aid. >> This is. This is. I I will tell you that the role of. hydrogen gas in the human body, mark my words on this, is the greatest. discovery of our millennia. Hydrogen water, hydrogen inhalation, and um even bathing. in hydrogen gas, will be as common as a. multivitamin in 10 years. The evidence. is absolutely crystal clear. And I am.

talking about human trials of. peer-reviewed, placebo-controlled, randomized clinical trials conducted at. gold standard universities that are in. the public domain that have been. published. Hydrogen. um is the smallest, lightest element in. the universe. Um it's highest on the. periodic table. It's also the most. prevalent element in the universe. 10%. of your body weight is hydrogen, so it's. harmless to human beings. The role that hydrogen gas has in the. human body we have only recently. discovered. So, hydrogen acts as what's called a.

selective antioxidant. So, in other words, it doesn't just. reduce oxidative stress, it reduces oxidative stress to. neutrality. It restores something called redox. homeostasis. And why is that important? Because too. much inflammation, too much oxidation, too many free radicals, very bad. Too little. inflammation, too few free radicals, too.

little oxidation, also very bad. You want there to be a balance. that which is called redox homeostasis. You want there to be a balance between. in- what's called inflammation and. reduction. But when you take hydrogen. gas, it restores this to neutrality, to. balance, and stops, even if you take too. much. Um there is not a professional athlete. that I work with, there's not a VIP. client whose health trajectory I manage,

who is not regularly bathing in hydrogen. gas, and does does take hydrogen water. tablets every single day. And you can. just take elemental magnesium and which. is what a hydrogen tablet is, drop it. into water and it will effervesce into. pure hydrogen gas and you can drink it. So, what happens when that goes into the. body is it neutralizes these free. radicals. So, when we say something is an antioxidant, for example, like what does that mean? Blueberries are antioxidants.

Vitamin C is an antioxidant. Quercetin. is an antioxidant. What does that mean? It means that it donates electrons. So, something is causing free radical. damage and oxidative stress, you. neutralize it by giving it electrons. So, hydrogen, because it can pass. through your skin, through your bones, through your cell wall, right through. your joints, through the capsule of your. joint, it can go right through your. spine, it is the smallest, lightest. element in the universe. It's the.

fraction of the size of a virus. And so, it goes everywhere in the human. body and reduces this inflammatory. cascade. Um. I I don't. even talk about this in the public. domain because people would call me a. complete charlatan, but um I have a. hydrogen bath at my house. Um and I have. put people into that tub, Megan, nearly crippled with arthritis and they. will skip out of my. unit like they won the lottery. My my. wife Sage has an L5S1 fusion, spinal.

fusion, in her back and if you know. anything about spinal surgeries, they. they never really go well. I mean, it's. like you just buy yourself a problem. down the street. Um anybody that's had. back surgery knows. >> In another life, I was married to a pain. management and interventional pain. management doctor. >> Were you? >> And uh he used to say, "I can help. anybody except somebody who's actually. had back surgery.". >> Yeah. Um. and usually starts with a discectomy, starts with a fusion, and then goes to. another level and another fusion and. another discectomy and then and then.

rods. But so so my wife's age has an L5. S1 fusion, so he had she had her sacrum. fused to her first lumbar vertebrae. because of a really bad car accident she. was in. And ever since then, you know, when when that. uh. that surgery acts up, it just goes right. up her spine. Um and it just. cramps her whole spine down. If I bathe her in hydrogen gas for 25. minutes, she'll sleep 8 hours through. the night. Like it like a towel. >> What?

>> It's an It is a selective antioxidant. I. will send you the research, the. published research on this, and you can. put it in the show notes so your. your readers can or your listeners can. check it out for themselves. There's. also a website called. hydrogenstudies.com, where you can see all 1,500. peer-reviewed studies. You can select. out the animal studies, just look at. human studies. It will be as common as a multivitamin, especially in professional sports. Because professional sports. >> I ask you a quick question on this? Is. this because I I had Dr. Casey Means on.

the program many times, but. >> her. Her brother Kelly and I are good. friends. >> I love him, too. I know because you're. very active in the Maha space. He's. They're both brilliant. We're so lucky. to have them. Um but she was the first person who just. insisted that I get the RO filter in my. house, which I did. The carbon filter. and the RO. >> Yes. >> And but a friend of mine was saying that. they had. they've gone next level, and they've put. one of these like. Is this possible to have a Is it a. hydrogen filter in their house like Do I.

need something other than the RO now? Like what what is this? How would How. would this work in terms of consuming. water? >> the single best. under-the-counter water filtration. system in the world um is called a MAW. water filter, m a w. Um. I think it's MAW wellness. that sells it. I have it under every. sink in my house. I have it under every. sink in every property that I have. So, what this does is uses. uh sediment and reverse osmosis the. these these.

different uh carbon filters and. different filters to completely. de-structure the water. So, you have you take out fluoride, chlorine, microplastics, pharmaceuticals, what's called PFAs, polyfluoro alcohols. Um I live in Miami. We have some of the. worst municipal water. Um they'll tell you that it's clean, um. but I've had it tested. Arsenic, palladium, cadmium, nickel, um trace. amounts of lead, not not significant. amounts of lead, but chlorine, fluoride,

uh microplastics. You I would argue that. one of the best things that you can do. as a passive wellness hack, meaning not. something you have to be active in doing. like getting in a sauna or getting in a. red light bed, is to put water. filtration in your home. Um so, this. this uh Mall Wellness filter, MAW. Wellness, it it it what it will do is it. will de-structure the water, and then before it comes out of the. sink, it will. uh make the water alkaline, it will uh.

add electrolytes back to the water, and. it will at re-mineralize the water. So, it de-structures it, and then. re-structures it coming out of the. uh. so, I I still put my hydrogen tablet in. there, but I would argue that that is the. single best water you can put in the. human body. Because it's. >> It's so helpful. I'm I'm going to go on. a shopping spree after this. Although is. I imagine that the the Mall water filter. is pricey, and for people who don't have.

money to spare, can you just try to put that on one. filter and go from there? I mean like if. you know, that sounds like a lot to put. it all over your house. >> called the Coldlife um that you can. actually screw on just to your sink, and. that will do fluoride, chlorine, uh microplastics, which is a long way to. getting really healthy water. But if you. want the gold standard, an. under-the-counter water filtration, you. know, these things are. it it's an investment you make once and. it is pricey. You probably could finance. it. Um. but if you added up all of the.

bottled water that you drank, you know, I just travel with an aluminum bottle. that I filled up from that filter this. morning. Um. So, you actually can save on glass. bottled water and and plastic bottled. water by actually having water. filtration in your home. And then you're. cooking with it, you're drinking it, your kids are drinking it, your spouse. is drinking it. You know, it's it. probably I think as a single. intervention, one of the one of the best. things that you can do. Um. >> Wow. And all the things that you're. saving yourself, as you said, you're not. not Now you're not drinking chlorine,

you're not drinking all the arsenic and. your children aren't either. So, it's it. is an investment. All right, stand by. cuz we have much more. Gary stays with. us. We take a quick break. >> [music]. >> The one and only Gary Brecka. I've. learned so much this hour. I hope you. have too. More to come. Stand by. Hey, thanks for watching today's full. episode. If you're new here, throw us a. subscribe. See what you think. Stay in. touch. There's plenty more goodness. where this one came from. As always, we. really do value your feedback. So, email. me, too. Megan, m e g y n at. megan.kelly.com or just leave a comment.

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the Ultimate Human media platform, and. let me tell you something. I know you. you're very familiar with this story, Gary, but there it is, Ultimate Human. >> Mhm. >> Um it wasn't that long ago, I don't. know, maybe 9, 10 months, maybe a year, where I was. I I was watching something that you had. done, and it you were telling the Dana. White story, >> Mhm. >> uh CEO of uh UFC. >> Mhm. >> [clears throat]. >> And it let me down a rabbit hole into. Dana White videos talking about his. health. And I'm going to let you set the stage.

in a second for his turnaround, but I. just want to show the audience this. So, this I get to this video where he's. laying out part of what Gary's protocol. for him has been and how it's been. absolutely life-changing. This is a guy. who was on blood pressure medication. They were going to be doing these like. aggressive interventions, like surgical. interventions on his heart. He thought. he had a limited time on this earth left. uh when it came to his blood pressure. and his heart issues, and then Gary came. into his life. Long story short, he's. off all meds. He's off all of them now, thanks to Gary.

And here's some of what he put on the. internet that he does, which I find. fascinating. So, first, there's um Dana. here there's video of him getting into. this red light bed. So, he doesn't just. do red light for the face. He does red. light. He's in the bed. He's got his. shorts on. That's all he wears and he. goes into this red light bed that he. pulls down over him. I think it's 20 minutes a pop. He says. he does this at least a. few times a week and this is one of the. ways [clears throat] in which he starts. his day. Then he also says he does this.

he runs on a treadmill while breathing. oxygen. Now, I have done this at this. spa not far from me. We call it med spa. or spa spa gym. And uh. this is like a big thing where they have. you. at this gym spa. we ride a bike and we put these oxygen. masks over our faces and then you put. the little like a handle on on the. mountain where your oxygen goes way down. and off the mountain where you get all.

[clears throat] sorts of good oxygen. flowing in through this mask. So, it's. the same sort of approach. I don't. understand it any better when I do it. there than I would when I watch Dana. doing it here. We'll get to that with. Gary. >> Mhm. >> And third, uh. Dana shows us that he goes on something. called a PEMF. pad that uh here in his video he just. lies on it on like a massage table. You. can see him pressing a button, but he. says that he sleeps on this every night. and.

that seems like another very low impact. way of improving your health. If you. just have to sleep on a pad, I mean this. is right up our alley, is it not people? We're like we can get just a little bit. better without all of that looks highly. pleasant to be quite frank. So, walk us. through the Dana White story and those. protocols there, Gary. >> So, I'm going to tell you the expensive. way to do it and then the free way to do. it because um you know, the the best. biohacking modalities. uh what they do is they take the best of.

what mother nature has to offer us and. they just make it convenient. Um very. often I say I'm a much bigger believer. in what God gave us than what man makes. us. I'm a bigger believer in. our God-given immune system than I am in. chemicals, and synthetics, and. pharmaceuticals. And the same thing is. true with a lot of biohacking. modalities. >> [clears throat]. >> Um, so. I'm a huge believer in red light. I'm a. huge believer in PEMF, pulsed. electromagnetic field. And I'm also a. big believer in what Dana was doing,

which is called EWOT, which is based on. uh, Dr. Otto Warburg's research, who won. two Nobel Prizes in modern medicine, uh, called multi-step oxygen therapy. So, if. you can afford those pieces of. equipment, or you have access to them in. a spa, or uh, uh, a gym, by all means, regular red light therapy, regular. sauna, regular PEMF, even cold. immersion, um, and something called intermittent. hypoxia, those are phenomenal things for.

your body. Um, they not only shift your. cellular biology, they improve your VO2. max very often at rest, and they have. proven life extension capabilities, and. I'm going to explain that in a second. Proven. Clinically proven life extension. capabilities. Um, in fact, I'm in the. process now of of opening 600 ultimate. longevity centers all over the country, because I really feel like my message is. for the masses, not just for the top 2%. uh, of society that can afford that type. of equipment, a red light bed like that.

A a really good red light bed will cost. you $100,000. So, if you're getting. ready to buy a Ferrari, buy a hyperbaric. or red light bed. If you don't have the. money for a Ferrari or a red light bed, um, you know, you find your way to one. of these centers. Uh, and and there'll. be 600 of these around the country in. the next, uh, in the next few months. Um, >> That's great. That's great news. >> Yeah, it's a it's a I'm I'm really. excited about. It's a project that, uh, uh, Tony Robbins LifeForce is involved, you. know, for the corporate practice of.

medicine, hormone therapy, nutrient deficiencies, peptides, um but most importantly, you know, low-cost memberships where people can. actually go in and use sauna, red light, hyperbaric chambers, um PEMF, like. you're seeing there with Dana, and. something called intermittent hypoxia. And I want to explain those in in a. moment. But, if you cannot afford a red. light bed, a PEMF, um and an EWOA. machine, get sunlight on your skin, learn to do breathwork,

and touch the surface of the earth. You will get the same, very close to the. same outcomes, because certain. wavelengths of red light, we are very. photovoltaic beings. So, red light therapy, the primary role. of red light therapy is it passes. through the skin. Remember that light. doesn't care about inflammation, it. doesn't care about the cell wall, it. doesn't care about the tissue, it passes. right through your skin. >> [clears throat]. >> And when it passes through the skin, one of the things that it does is, without getting too scientific, is it.

goes into a little organelle in the cell. called the mitochondria. And the mitochondria is the powerhouse. of the cell. It's a little battery. that's inside of your cell. And we have about 110 trillion of these. in our bodies. 10% of your body weight. is mitochondria. So, you got 110. trillion of these in your cells, they're. very important, and they're making. energy. They're making this form of energy. called ATP. What's fascinating about the. mitochondria is that there's a motor. inside of the mitochondria, and every. time it makes one revolution, it has two.

choices. It can either create two units. of energy, two ATP, or it can create 36. units of energy, 36 ATP. One turn, and it's either 16 times more. powerful, or 16 times less powerful. So, what determines whether or not it's. 16 times. more efficient or more powerful, or 16. times less? The the of oxygen. If oxygen enters that cycle, aerobic. respiration, you get 36 ATP.

If carbon dioxide, anaerobic respiration, enters that. cycle, you get two ATP. One of the things that red light does is. when it passes through the wall of this. mitochondria, it kicks out a gas, a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide, and forces oxygen to dock. So, it's. almost like taking a hammer and driving. oxygen into the battery, the powerhouse. of the cell. So, red light therapy heals.

you and gives you energy from the inside. out. Certain wavelengths of sunlight do the. same thing. So, yes, red light therapy is excellent. for you. >> How many times a week would you be doing. that? >> Well, red light therapy is dose. dependent, just like sauna. So, if you. look at the research on sauna, dry. sauna, for example, and the data is. clear on dry sauna. I don't think anyone. in the functional medicine or biohacking. space would argue the impact of sauna. And it reduces. >> Just just just to clarify, dry sauna is. like what you know of as sauna. Wet.

sauna is steam room. >> Uh I mean dry sauna and infrared sauna. So, [clears throat] they're both dry. >> Oh, okay. >> Um one uses light to create friction and. heat you up, the other uses heat to heat. you up. A dry sauna is usually about. 160° to 180°, an infrared sauna is usually about 100. to 155°, but it also makes you sweat. It. makes you sweat by using wavelengths of. light to create friction in water. chromophores. To so so it actually also. makes you sweat. Either of those is. fine. An infrared sauna or a dry sauna.

I'm not a fan of commercial steam rooms. unless they filter their water because. commercial steam rooms usually bring in. the municipal water, and then you are. vaporizing fluoride gas, chlorine gas, polyfluoro alcohols, um whatever is in. that water, you're turning into a gas. >> Good point. >> And the way that we take a poison. and turn it into a bioweapon is we. vaporize it. Right? I mean, you You and I could be. sitting on in in front of a desk with a. pile of anthrax on our desk, no problem.

If you lit that on fire or vaporized it, big problem, right? Um so. >> There's a dark thought. >> There's a dark Yeah, I got really dark. there for a second. Thanks, Arnie. [laughter]. >> Wow. I'm not saying. >> in the steam room enjoying myself until. I got poisoned by anthrax. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, it was all fun and games until. Gary vaporized the anthrax, you know. >> [laughter]. >> But. and I'm not saying municipal steam rooms. are that bad, but when you walk into. [laughter] a lot of these Yeah, locker. rooms, you smell the chlorine. Right?

>> Yeah, that's right. >> just smell it and it's it's chlorine gas. and fluoride gas. So, unless you're. filtering the water in your steam room, I would avoid that. I would I wouldn't. use municipal water. But if you filter. it, great. Um. But so, we know that sauna reduces. all-cause mortality. Meaning, we know. that the reduction in cardiovascular. risk and the reduction in all-cause. mortality clearly causal, not. correlated. It is a It is a clear line. in in the scientific literature. So,

sauna is one of those things that if. you're on a longevity bandwagon, it. should be a you know, somewhere in your. in your stack. But um. it is also dose-dependent. So, 5 days is. better than 2, 2 days is better than 1. Red light therapy is the same way. The. more consistently you lay in a red light. therapy therapy bed, the more youthful in appearance you'll. take on. You will notice. um extraordinary youthful changes in. your skin. Why? Because it's very good. for collagen, for elastin, for fibrin,

and for something called vasomotor. circulation. Vasomotor is something you may even want. to write down because. most people think that our heart. circulates all the blood in our our. There are cardiologists that think that, but um that the heart circulates all the. blood running through our body. That is. That is not true. Um the heart. circulates about 30% of the blood in our. body. Nobody has a left ventricle with a. single contraction that is strong enough. to push blood um 63,000 mi. You have.

about 63,000 mi of blood vessel in your. body, including venules and capillaries. um and arterioles. So, this 70% of our circulation, how does that 70% of the blood. circulate? It's circulated through this activity. called vasomotor. So, I want you to. think of a snake swallowing a mouse. Okay? We don't put a hose in the snake's. mouth and push the mouse along. What. happens is there's a muscular, like. peristalsis, a a muscular motion that.

moves that mouse down the snake's body. That's how the bolus of blood is moved. through 70% of your circulation. So, vasomotor, this microvascular. circulation, we never examine it, we. don't image it, we don't treat it, we. don't even talk about it. And so, what. happens as we age is we get compromised. in this vasomotor circulation. Red light therapy is one of the best.

things you can do for vasomotor. circulation. And if you go back to Dana White, Dana. White had what's called brittle. hypertension when I met him. And brittle. hypertension means that you have. extraordinarily high blood pressure all. the time, and it's not controlled well. by medication. He had been on beta. blockers, calcium channel blockers, diuretics, uh something called ACE. inhibitors. None of it was working to. keep his blood pressure down. What was fascinating was that uh Dana.

was told he had familial hypertension. He was told he had genetically inherited. hypertension. And I want to make. something super clear for your. listeners. In modern medicine, there's a type of. diagnosis called idiopathic. So, when a. physician has no idea. um in fact, the Latin root of that is. unknown origin. So, when you have a. condition and we don't know why, we just. diagnose it as idiopathic. You have. idiopathic hypertension. You have.

idiopathic hypothyroid. You have. idiopathic autoimmune, which means we. have no idea what caused this. 85%. of all primary hypertension diagnosis. are idiopathic. So, when they are medicating your heart. for crime they cannot prove it's. committing, it's because they do not. know the origin. And that's in the record, idiopathic. And so, when we can't explain things in. medicine, we look for other routes to.

validate it. And one of the routes they. do is they look at your family history. and they go, "Oh my gosh, Megan, look at. this. You have high blood pressure. We've examined your heart. There's. nothing wrong with your heart, which is. what happened to Dana. Your EKG's. normal, EEG's normal, heart sounds are. normal, lung sounds are normal, cardiac. cath's normal, dye contrast study, all. of these advanced studies are all. normal. So, we can't find anything wrong. with the heart. We want to medicate the. heart anyway. So, we look at your family. history and we go, "Oh, look at that. Your father's brother has hypertension. Your mother had hypertension.

You have familial hypertension. You have. genetically inherited hypertension.". Well, if I can get you to believe that. you have a genetically inherited. disease, I can get you to subscribe to a. lifetime of medication. But, if we took. that conversation one step further and. you look the physician in the eye and. said, "If I inherited this disease from my. ancestor, what gene. did they pass on to me that caused this. condition to exist?". That's when their face would go blank.

Because that gene does not exist. There's not any gene for hypertension. There's not a gene for hypothyroid. There's not a gene for type 2 diabetes, drug and alcohol addiction, depression. and anxiety. All of these things run in. families. None of them are genetic. So, >> Wow. >> that is a critical distinction. So, they diagnosed Dana with idiopathic. hypertension, hypertension of an unknown. origin.

The reason? Familial genetic hypertension. Even. though, there's no gene for hypertension. So, the first conversation I had with. Dana was, uh well, they don't know the origin. They're They're medicating your heart. for a crime they cannot prove it's. committing. In fact, your your cardiac. workup says the opposite. You have no. cardiac anomalies. Your EEG EKG, heart. and lung sounds, and all of your cardio. workup has been normal for 10 years. Um. Dana's response, I won't.

say his exact response on the show cuz. it's very colorful. Um but he said, "What in the beep am I. on all of these medications for?". >> [laughter]. >> Um. and. so, what I found was that uh. he had an amino acid in his blood. Please, if you have hypertension, write. this down. He had an amino acid in his blood called. homocysteine. Homocysteine is in everyone's blood. that's listening to this conversation. right now. Homocysteine is normal in our. bloodstream.

Our body takes homocysteine, breaks it. down, and turns it into another amino. acid called methionine, which then. quiets the mind. So, when homocysteine rises, which is. genetic, you inherit. poor homocysteine metabolism, which means you inherit high. homocysteine. You do not inherit. hypertension. And so, when this amino acid rises,

and it's cruising by the inside lining. of your blood vessels, it irritates your. blood vessel. And if you irritate a. blood vessel, it will clamp down. And when you make the pipes smaller in a. fixed Excuse [clears throat] me, a fixed. system, the pressure goes up. An apprentice plumber knows if I want to. increase the pressure, I decrease the. diameter of the pipes. So, you have. 63,000 mi of blood vessel in your body, 70% of which we never image and never um. and never examine. And if you get.

vascular constriction, vasoconstriction, in that 70% of your system, the. pressure's going to go up. Just like if I wanted to raise your. blood pressure right now, I'd just put. some NormaTec compression boots on your. on your legs. Your blood pressure will. skyrocket. Nothing wrong with your. heart. If I take the boots off, pressure. goes back to normal. So, what happened. to Dana over 21 weeks, and I would I. would encourage your audience to write. this down, too, if they have. hypertension. Check your homocysteine level. If you have high homocysteine, that.

means that you have vascular. constriction. If you have vascular. constriction, you likely have high blood. pressure, and this is well documented in. in in the literature. Um. you take an amino acid called TMG. You can get this over the counter, trimethylglycine. What TMG will do is help your body. metabolize the homocysteine. So, over 21. weeks, as Dana took this amino acid and. he began to metabolize homocysteine, as. his homocysteine level dropped, his. vascular system began to relax, and as.

it relaxed, his pressure returned to. normal. So, after 21 weeks, he was off all of. his cardiovascular medication. He is no. longer pretty hypertensive. Um he does. not take medication for his heart, and. he takes an amino acid called. trimethylglycine, TMG. >> That's incredible. >> Perfectly normal. >> Absolutely incredible. The. uh just to circle back before we move. on, um we talked about red light bed. >> Mhm. [clears throat]. >> We talked about the treadmill with O2.

The lying on the mat, the PEMF. >> about the free version of that cuz I. said I would tell you what to do for. free. >> Okay. >> If you can afford any walk, get on a. treadmill, breathe the oxygen. If you. can't, learn to do breath work. That breath work that I described at the. beginning, three rounds of 30 deep breaths, obnoxious. Like deep breaths in through your lungs, really expanding your rib cage, exercising the auxiliary muscles of. respiration, and then out through a. straw. Three rounds of 30 breaths followed by. an extended breath hold. And then the.

final one is touching the surface of the. earth. It's called earthing or grounding. And I. used to get a lot of flack for this 10. years ago, but it's not really that. >> I know. That's real though, right? That's real. >> You discharge into the earth. You can. hold a voltage meter and put one get one. off of Amazon. Put one pin of the. voltage meter in your hand, plug the. other one into the ground, and then. stand barefoot on top of your tennis. shoes. Okay? Hold the voltage meter. Step off of your tennis shoes onto bare. ground and watch the meter peg all the. way to the right.

>> Oh, so you have to have your shoes off. That's it. That's important. >> Yes, you want to touch the surface of. the earth with bare feet. It's called. grounding or earthing. It's why people. feel so good when they go to the beach. >> And the PEMF does that. >> Yes. >> for you. It's kind of a substitute if. you can't. >> Yeah. >> I mean, if you live in a very snowy year. Oh, by the way, does it work in a snowy. year? Like if you if you were standing. on the snow. >> It'll work on cold uh ground, too. What's fascinating, too, is a lot of. commercial buildings. um are grounded. So, like if you if you. actually live in a commercial. condominium, you're in New York City and.

you're like, "Gary, there's no dirt. around." Um. uh you you can also get a grounding test. meter on Amazon. They're six bucks. Um. and you can hold it and take your shoes. off and stand on your tile floor. You. may be grounded because commercial. buildings run uh steel um and they also. have steel poles. So, very often the the. concrete surfaces in those buildings are. grounded. So, you may be on the 15th. floor, >> but fully grounded. >> You can just touch the surface of the. earth, touch your touch your tile, and. you'll be grounded.

>> Um on the subject of. you know, the the Dana White revolution, do can we talk about LDL? There's such a. debate over LDL. And. I actually was looking into this. recently because. like my doctor, I've told my audience. this, he loves the statins. He thinks. everybody should be on a statin. He. thinks they should be in the drinking. water. Literally said that to me. I love. my guy, but he's he's more of an old. school, you know, he's not functional.

medicine. Um. but I'm into functional medicine. So, like I it's interesting for me, but so. he loves loves loves the statins. But. now I know, I've had enough people on. the show that I know that there's a real. question about statins, and there's a. real question about whether we should be. focused on LDL cholesterol at all. >> I agree. >> Peter Attia, who's he's you know, in. longevity space. He does believe. >> Did he resurface? >> Well, I don't know. Maybe he's not he's. not functional, but he's in the. longevity, but he he loves us he wants. LDLs down. I and he also believes LDLs.

should be low, and you do have to worry. And my doctor was telling me, in Europe, they want your LDL to be like below 60. I mean, that's really low. And you know, they'll lead you to. believe you're going to have a heart. attack if you don't manage the LDL. So, where do you stand on LDL? >> So, first of all, let's talk about what. cholesterol is and what it's not. Um so, cholesterol is not a fuel supply. Your. body cannot use cholesterol for energy. So, what is it? It's a construction.

material. We use it to build every cell. wall, every cell membrane. We use it to. make vitamin D3, the only vitamin that. human beings make on our own. Human. beings only make one vitamin, and it's. vitamin D3, called calciferol. We make. it from sunlight and cholesterol. You. don't need to eat, drink, or or. supplement. You just expose your skin to. sunlight, have cholesterol in your. bloodstream, you'll make vitamin D3. So, just think for a moment how critical. that must be to human function. if when God made us, he made us with the.

ability to make one vitamin. >> [snorts]. >> So, it's a construction material. And. so, secondly, um cholesterol. is also a transport molecule. So, if cholesterol was a tennis ball, the fuzzy yellow surface on the top, that would be a triglyceride, a fat. So, fat, triglyceride, is transported around the. bloodstream on the surface of. cholesterol. So, if you remember from high school. geometry, that as the size of a sphere gets.

smaller, its surface area to volume ratio goes. up. Why is that important? >> Hold on. I'm going to explain it in a. way that your audience is going to get. [laughter]. >> Bring it home, Gary. >> there, nerds. Um. So, let's say you had two basketballs of. cholesterol sitting on your desk. Okay? They're covered in fat. And you want to add more fat to your. desk. You want to put more fat on those.

basketballs. How do they hold more fat? Two basketballs become four softballs. You add more fat to the bloodstream. Four softballs become eight baseballs. You add more fat. Eight baseballs become. 16 golf balls. You add more fat. 16 golf balls become. 32 little BBs. Now, those two basketballs. are markers for longevity.

Large puffy cholesterol. The 32 BBs are markers for. cardiovascular disease. Same level of cholesterol, different size. Does that make sense? >> Yeah. >> Two basketballs have the same surface. area as 32 little BBs. Those 32 little. BBs are very dangerous because they will. pass through the endothelium, the the. arterial wall. They'll get eaten by a. macrophage. They'll start foam cell um. they'll start the production of what's. called foam cells, which is the genesis.

of placking, scarring, narrowing, cardiovascular disease. Cholesterol by itself doesn't magically. just jump out of the bloodstream and. stick to the arterial wall. You need oxidation and you need um that. molecular size of the cholesterol to be. very small. So, I mean to say something that's going. to sound controversial, but if anyone. has evidence to prove this statement. wrong, I'm happy to look at it. No one. hasn't been ever been able to do this. for me so far. But there is zero.

and I mean zero evidence anywhere in the. peer-reviewed published clinical. literature linking elevated uh levels of. LDL cholesterol on its own. to cardiovascular disease. You have to have a corresponding. increase in triglyceride. or you have to have the small particle. size. Now, lipo A, lipo little A, which is. genetic, is a very dangerous form of. cholesterol. Right now, there are no. pharmacological solutions for that. PCSK9 inhibitors do not reduce lipo.

little A. Um there may be solutions by the end of. this year, but as we stand right now, there are not pharmacological solutions. for lipo little A. Lipo B. So, what. happens is we've selected one myopic. view of cholesterol, LDL, and we've said. LDL high, cardiovascular risk high, we. need to get it low. That is not true. And I will tell you that in the. evidence, because when I was in the. mortality space, we had access to the. day, date, time, location, and cause of.

death for 371 million lives. I can tell you in 22 years, I never. processed a single death claim on a. centenarian, somebody who lived over age. 100, that did not have clinically. elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at. the time of their death. And if you look at blue zone studies, elevated LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you look at the. centenarian death claims that I. processed, high LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride. If you want to focus on a single.

variable that makes your cholesterol. less lethal, control your insulin. Insulin resistance is a greater marker. for cardiovascular disease, insulin and. hemoglobin A1C, than LDL cholesterol. I. would not. I am not a physician, so let me be the. first one to say that. I'm not a. physician and I am not licensed to. practice medicine. Um. but I am a data scientist and I have. read the data. Um if it were me or my loved one, I.

would not take a statin if purely my LDL. cholesterol number was elevated. Especially if I had normal to low. triglyceride. So, because. >> you a question then. If if you if you're. a diabetic. whose insulin is controlled, right? If. you're a medicated diabetic who's. controlling her insulin all the time, shouldn't you then never die of a heart. attack? Like because. >> Well, what's interesting. >> Your insulin's always under control. >> Um if you look at the category of.

diabetes, so diabetes if there's a. measure called the hemoglobin A1C. Okay, this is the three-month average of. your blood sugar. It goes from 4.8 to 5.6 on most standard. lab values. In that range you're. considered to have normal blood sugar. Between 5.6 and 6.0, you are considered. pre-diabetic. Between 6.0 and 6.4, you are diabetic but not insulin. dependent.

So, so insulin dependence. you can have diabetes and not be insulin. dependent. You can have diabetes and require. insulin. So, if you look at the incidence of. cardiovascular disease in type 2. diabetics, meaning they are diagnosed. with diabetes, um. then you you find significantly higher. rates of cardiovascular disease. In fact, insulin is a more correlated. risk to cardiovascular disease than LDL.

cholesterol. It is a greater predictor. of cardiovascular risk and disease than. LDL cholesterol on its own. Insulin resistance is what causes. uh cholesterol to to oxidize. So, if you're going to monitor, if you just. had an LDL cholesterol number, and you. had your insulin and hemoglobin A1C, I would control my blood sugar before I. took a statin. Because the uncontrolled blood sugar.

>> about blood sugar is it's not just. sugar. I mean, obviously, if you're. having boatloads of candy and ice cream. and sugary products, that's not good. But you could eliminate all that and. still have high blood sugar, right? Like. >> That's right. >> For example, if you if you have hunks of. bread, >> Mhm. >> your body recognizes that as sugar. It. processes that as a sugar. There are. ways of spiking that blood sugar that. have nothing to do with the consumption. of actual sugar. >> That's right. Yeah, and and and the big. offenders are white bread, flour, rice,

pasta, um. grains. Those are the ones that they. don't taste sweet, so you don't think of. them as pipe spiking blood sugar, but. they you know, they spike blood sugar. Fruits and and be very great be very. protein forward with your diet. Saturated fats and proteins are fine as. long as you do not also have high. glycemic carbohydrates with them. We. just updated the entire uh not just the. food pyramid, but the nutritional. guidelines to be very protein forward. We also ended the war on saturated fat.

Um, when when we. launched the war on saturated fat, we began the explosion of high sugary. drinks, sodas, snacks, and highly. processed foods. And look at the rates. of diabetes when we went after fat and. replaced it with sugar. Because. >> Everything got worse. >> Yeah. >> And I know, Gary, you say just to get. this out, we have to take a break, but. you say the number one, the only diet.

rule that matters. is to avoid processed foods. I mean, processed foods are the devil. Like you. can't eat them. You do not buy them. Do. not have them in your pantry. Do not. give them to your children. Avoid them. like the plague. >> Yes. This is very true. And And just quick, cuz I know I know we're short on time. Um, Blue Zone studies, meta-analyses, and. big data all line up. There's no. argument for dogmatic dieting to extend. life. It's not keto, paleo, pescatarian,

vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, you know, raw food. The secret to extended life is. the absence of processed food. You can do fine on a vegetarian diet. It's difficult, but you can. Very. difficult on a vegan diet, but you can. do it on a vegetarian diet. Difficult, but you can do it. You can do it eating. fish, chicken, meat, eggs, um, as long as you are not taking in. high amounts of, uh, highly processed food and you're. watching your sugars. Honey is great,

you know, um, uh, fruits and and berries. are amazing for you. It's not no sugar, it's eating sugar in moderation. And. when you look at, uh, all of the areas. of the world where we have life. extension, there is no presence of. processed food. >> Wow, think of that. And we are the. capital of the world. >> Yeah. >> when it comes to that stuff. It's part. of our diet and it's pushed on us. everywhere. >> And we're the sickest, fattest, most. diseased ridden nation in the world.

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pathological infection. So, if you think you have an autoimmune. disease, you say there are five things that you. need to think about. Um forget what the disease is, forget. lamentations about having one. There are. five things you can look into to improve. your health and how you feel. The first. one on the list is mold, very. interesting. Do you want to keep going.

from there? >> Yep. Microtoxin, parasite, virus, and heavy metal. I'm going to I'm. going to do a little demonstration here. that may be the most significant thing. that you learn about. uh autoimmune. Now, I am not saying that. all autoimmune disease is caused by. those five things. What I am telling you. that is that as a category of disease, 85% of autoimmune. is diagnosed as idiopathic, which means. that you're led to believe that you woke. up one day and for no apparent reason,

your immune system turned on your colon, so you have Crohn's. You woke up one day. and for no apparent reason, it started. to attack the myelin sheath of your. nerve, you have multiple sclerosis. It. went after for thyroid, you have. Hashimoto's. The Shogren's uh lacrimal. gland of the eye, and on and on and on. Um so, if if this This is a piece of. gum, but it [snorts] if this was a mold. spore or a microtoxin or a parasite or a. virus or a heavy metal, and this healthy cell, this does not hide like this.

It hides like this. And that's a very important distinction. because the immune system is. hyper-vigilant. It wants to get to this, right? And it's hiding. >> Just for the listening audience, he's. putting the bad thing in the middle of. his fist. He's saying it's like hides in. the middle of your system there. Keep going. >> Yeah, so think about if somebody across. the street from your house robbed the. bank and ran into your house and. barricaded themself in your in your. house, the police would bust down that. door to get to the perpetrator. They're. not just showing up to your house to. kick in the door for no reason. They're.

kicking in the door because the. perpetrator is inside. >> [snorts]. >> So, the immune. >> That's why your autoimmune markers are. up. There's something bad happening. inside of you that they're after. >> Exactly. So, we can take one of two types of. belief if we have no explanation. One, God made a mistake, the immune system. just attacked you for no reason. God. didn't make a mistake, the immune system. is there for a reason. So, the police officer just showed up. and barricaded through your door and ran. around your house. Or he kicked in the door to get to a. perpetrator. So, what happens when the.

immune system reaches the wall of a cell. and it doesn't have permission to go. inside? The way it gains permission to. go inside, kick down the door, is it. manufactures an antibody to that tissue. So, if you look at the incidence of. heavy metal toxicity in Hashimoto's, which is autoimmune thyroid, you would. find that very often, not always, but. very often these patients have high. levels of metals embedded in their. thyroid. Why? Because the thyroid has an.

affinity for heavy metals. So, mercury. toxicity, palladium, lead, arsenic, very. often will gravitate into the thyroid. And then what happens? The immune system. is chasing that perpetrator, and it. begins an autoimmune response. If you. have Crohn's disease, the immune system. didn't just wake up one day and attack. your colon for no reason. Usually what. has happened is that you have you have. damaged the single cell layer of the. inside lining of your um intestine. You. have something called leaky gut where.

contents from the inside of your. uh intestine are leaking in through the. wall and into the bloodstream, and the. immune system arrives there and starts a. fight. And then we suppress the immune. system, we hold it responsible for a. crime it's not committing, and we give. you high doses of. uh corticosteroids, anti-inflammatories. to try to control the inflammation, instead of saying, "Why did the immune. system show up in the first place? Why. is the police officer at my house. kicking in my door?" Um.

oh, there's a bank robber inside. Oh, there's a heavy metal. There's a mold. spore or a mycotoxin, a parasite. Viruses, same way. When a virus arrives. to a cell, what it does is it sticks to. the cell wall and injects its DNA, and. then it takes over the function of that. cell. A virus is not a living thing, it. needs a cell to survive. So, it survives. by injecting its DNA. It's like being. bitten by a zombie. Now you're a zombie, right? So, a cell bitten by a virus. becomes that virus, for lack of better. explanation. Um.

>> Well, And also, I just want to say Dr. Dale Bredesen, who is. a brilliant doctor who studies. Alzheimer's and dementia, he says. looking at all those things also helps. prevent Alzheimer's because you're. reducing your viral load, you're. reducing your toxic load, which will. help, you know, your brain. in addition to these other things. So, yeah, this can help you in a number of ways. But I want to keep going cuz there's so. many so many other things. You had a. woman on your show recently talking. about your feet. No one thinks about.

their feet as important to longevity, but I listened to the two of you and I. went, I have to say I bought a pair of. the ugliest sneakers I have ever seen, but. they're going to make us live longer. somehow, Gary. >> I know, but they're so not fashionable, Megan. >> [laughter]. >> But I mean, if just look at the general. shape of the foot. The foot's shaped. like a Y. Look at the general shape of a shoe.

It's shaped like a pyramid. And so. >> Yeah, pizza. Shaped like a slice of. pizza, but that's usually processed. food, so let's stay away from the pizza. analogy, Megan. Shape like the you know, the. capital building. So, you you you have. this. pizza shape to most shoes, but you have. a Y shape to our feet. And if you look. at what happens, bunions and. corns and and things like that, you. know, the the toes start to turn in. towards each other. We also, because our.

shoes, we. some running shoes even have carbon. fiber insoles, like flat insoles. So, we're losing the original strength of. our feet. There's an amazing book called. Born to Run. It was about Mexican tribes. that run 60-70 miles on a regular basis. every week barefoot. And they have no. ankle injuries. They have no foot. injuries. They don't have knees and hip. and low back injuries, because the foot. is adaptive. The foot has 300 planes of. motion that it moves in. Has 20.

I want to say seven bones. Um, so the. foot is meant to adapt to different. surfaces. It's meant to be malleable. Um, and when we cast it and we put it in. narrow toes. high heels are the worst and the most. poor anatomical position for women. Um, and so we we do damage to our feet. Um, you know, I've seen photographs of a lot. of NBA players, famous NBA players. These are online. They're the grossest. things you've ever seen. Ingrown hairs, I mean ingrown uh um toenails, um toes.

literally overlapping with other toes. Um you know, this very pizza shape to. all of the toes at the distal end of of. the foot. So, this is a very unnatural. position for us. So, yes, wider toed. Y-shaped shoes um great for you. >> Or barefoot. >> is excellent for you. Toe strength is. right up there with grip strength in. terms of how we can determine how. balanced we are. So, in elderly people. that lose toe strength and they lose. foot strength, it's very easy for them.

to fall. >> And she was saying that if you keep your. your toes out and you like lift your big. toes, that's good. Like do that to keep. your, you know, some toe strength and. separate your toes apart so that they're. not together. >> Try the exercise I was. talking about. >> just your big toe. It's way harder than. you think. >> All right. Now, what about ferments? Because RFKJ and a bunch of other people. in the administration are on some diet. where they're eating red meat and. ferments only. >> Well, right now he is only eating uh.

meat and fermented vegetables. >> [snorts]. >> So, what that looks like is um. in the morning at 6:30. he's cooking a steak and eating. sauerkraut. >> So, what happens if you guys go out to. eat? Is he like waiting to get back home. to eat? >> Now, this is he I don't know if he wants. me saying this either, but who cares? >> [clears throat]. >> He's so dedicated to this diet that he's. eating that he will bring his own. sauerkraut. to the restaurant.

>> [laughter]. >> Which by the way, Katie, you will. appreciate this because. we'll be in the car dressed up. I'll. have like a little. No, I'll have my little clutch, right? One of my good bags that I only take out. every once in a while cuz I I don't I. want to keep them nice. And he'll hand me a bag of sauerkraut. and say, "Can you put this in your bag?". >> [laughter]. >> And I'll say, "I actually cannot.". And I you know what? If you would have. told me when we were inside, I I would.

have brought a different bag, but. what you're about to put in in this bag. is not okay. I'm going to give this bag. to one of my daughters. When she, you know, when I die, this is. not a sauerkraut bag. But you If you. tell me ahead of time, I can bring a. sauerkraut bag. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> You know what I mean? >> [laughter]. >> It's too much. >> in advance, I won't bring the Chanel. I'll bring a different bag. >> Exactly. >> What do you make of those? >> So, fermented foods are going to First.

of all, they're excellent for your body. They have great probiotic flora in them. I I eat a lot of sauerkraut, a lot of. kimchi. Some really interesting research. coming out on kimchi and microplastics. Correlated, not causal, meaning they can. remove microplastics from the body. This. is a correlated result so far. Um but. fermented foods have two things. One, they have soluble and insoluble fiber. Soluble fiber is what turns into free. fatty acids and produces something. called butyrate, which is an anti-cancer.

molecule, and it also lowers. inflammation. Um insoluble fiber moves. through the gut as bulk. And we know. that high-fiber diets are correlated to. decreased risk of colorectal cancer. And. so, one of the things that you can do is. reintroduce fermented foods, and you get. the benefits of soluble and insoluble. fiber. Reduction of inflammation. We. would call these foods anti-cancer. Uh. they're not to treat cancer, but we call. them anti-cancer. The bulk moves through. as bulk, and the soluble fiber turns.

into free fatty acids and butyrate. Really good for you. >> All right, there's a free There's a free. tip for you. Now, peptides. All the. latest, you know, big celebs, they love. the peptides. >> Yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan of peptides. I've used them myself. And use them with really effect on you. know on a with on a couple of injuries. >> I love peptides. >> Peptide plumping or nail polish? >> Peptide plumping. I guess I just don't. really care about my nails. >> I've been enjoying my peptides.

>> Ooh. >> I got restocked on my peptides which I. kind of cycled off and I love them. >> What is peptides? These are pills? I. love them. >> Like Joe Rogan, BPC-157, a synthetic 15 amino acid peptide. derived from a protein found in human. gastric juice marketed for tendon, ligament, muscle, and gut repair. Is. that something we should be taking and. is there another peptide you like? >> No question. Um first of all, so just a.

quick explanation on peptides. Peptides. are not new, novel, recently discovered. molecules. Peptides are generally things. that are made endogenously in the human. body. Insulin is a peptide. GLP-1 is a. peptide. We have a trillion-dollar. industry built on the back of a peptide. that we make in our own gut and we make. this peptide GLP-1 in response to. nutrient density. Um GHK-Cu, the famous copper peptide for the skin. We make this in the human body. So.

peptides very often are endogenous. We. make them in the human body. That's the. first thing. The second thing is they. are signaling molecules. They usually. tell the body to do something. Produce. more growth hormone. Produce more. testosterone. Send platelets to this. location and heal this tissue. So it. taps into the body's innate systems that. already exist. Very often as we age, the. body does not um lose the ability to. produce youthful levels of things like.

growth hormone, testosterone, other. hormones. The signal gets turned down. So in other words, if you walked into a. room and you could barely hear the. music, you wouldn't go mess with the. speakers, you would find the tuner and. you would turn the tuner up and the. music would play louder. This is how. peptides work. They're signaling. molecules. They're like the tuner. And. so, because they're amino acids, they. actually have enzymes in the body that. recognize them and can break them down. and eliminate the way eliminate the. waste. The reason why you don't. desensitize to food, you can eat 1,500.

calories for the a day for the rest of. your life. Why don't you have to eat. 10,000 calories 10 years from now? Because your body is not desensitizing. to food. It's not building a tolerance. to food. Why? Because we recognize it, we have enzymes to break it down, we can. store it as energy, we can use it to. build structures, or we can eliminate. it. Peptides fall into this category. What's fascinating about peptides, I. think these are big pharma's worst. nightmare, is that it can signal the. body to accelerate wound healing.

BPC-157, TB-500, GHK-Cu. Peptides that already exist in our body, amino acid chains that we already have, we can add these back to the body and we. can accelerate wound healing. There are. peptides that are anti-anxiolytic that. actually reduce the impact of anxiety. They have impacts on brain-derived. neurotrophic factor, BDNF. Uh there are peptides that cause our. body to secrete something called. telomerase and lengthen our telomeres.

Um so, peptides are something that we've. been using for the last 10 years in. clinical practice. We my. team of physicians probably written over. a quarter of a million. uh prescriptions for peptides uh without. a single adverse event, serious adverse. event. Itching and rashes at the site of. injection, uh minor infection at the. site of injection for not being sterile, um. are some of the side effects, but those. are not related to the peptide, those. are related to the injection. There are. certain peptides that have.

contraindications, you should always. have a physician do these, but the. pharmacy compounding advisory committee. is meeting on the 23rd of this month, and I pray that there is a positive. recommendation to the FDA that they turn. into guidance on peptides, taking these. off of the category two and putting them. on the category one list. I will be in. Washington on Monday advocating for this. my myself. >> That's great to hear. Okay, well, I'm. excited by these because as you say, big. pharma's nightmare. They actually seem. like they're helping people and it's not.

necessarily a game of and now we're. hooked for life and we're just going to. make tons of money off of you. >> That's the thing. >> And the more I hear, the more interested. I am. I'm not I'm not. I don't think I'm on any peptides, but. I'm interested. >> think you're on any peptides. I love. that. You can go to my website and you. can learn about peptides and I do a. whole educational series on peptides. >> I loved our conversation. I'm so. grateful to you, Gary. Thank you. Thank. for all for all the great work you're. doing. Check out the ultimatehuman.com, ultimatehuman.com. Yeah.

>> Um and check out all of Gary's work. The. ultimatehuman.com, yes. >> The ultimatehuman.com. All the best to. you and all the best to all of you. Tomorrow, first-time guest, Alex. Bruzowicz will be here. Boy, does he. have a lot to say. You'll see. >> [music].