Most Bizarre Met Gala Moments, Why Blake Lively Settled, & WILD New Exec Story Details, w/ Red Scare

Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome. to the Megyn Kelly Show. A massive show. for you today including our take on the. settlement between Blake Lively and. Justin Baldoni that broke yesterday. afternoon shortly after we went off the. air. Um, I've got a lot of thoughts on this. I'm. pretty sure I know exactly why it. happened and I have a prediction. Things. are only going to get worse for Blake. Lively from here. Uh, and we'll walk you through why. But. first, last night was the 2026 Met Gala.

where out of touch elites get to show. off their bizarre fashion choices often. [snorts] with hidden messaging for us. peons to ponder. This year's theme was. costume art. It's basically a dress code of fashion. is art. Don't understand it? No one does. You're. not supposed to. It's just supposed to. make them feel better than you and you. feel dumb. >> [music]. >> You don't get to understand high. fashion. You just have to be subjected. to it and ideally envy all of them.

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hard to know where to start, but we will. begin with the 67-year-old. Madonna, okay, who ditched her signature blonde. curls and lingerie in favor of a more. gothic, witchy, shipwrecks look. [laughter]. At least she has clothes on. The ship on her head had a scarf so long. it needed its own payroll. Seven people. carried it. Seven. To carry the train from the ship.

>> [laughter]. >> on her head. She was also carrying a horn instrument. for some reason. I I don't know why. It's again, it's not for you to. understand, it's just to confuse you, and ideally for you to feel dumb cuz you. don't get it cuz you're not Madonna or. Anna Wintour. Um we're going to get right to probably. the worst, the absolute worst. I mean, honestly, like. just when you think Lena Dunham cannot. get any homelier, she shows up at the. Met Gala after a 7-year absence from the.

public eye, a 7-year delightful absence, and. she's shaved off her eyebrows and seems. to have gained even more weight. Not. only that, but her enormous shins and. calves are covered in some sort of weird. marks. She's got obviously some sort of. a skin condition. They They appear to be. bruises. It's like. I don't know, weird little warts or. moles or like. I I have no idea what's going on, but in. addition to her other obvious problem,

she appears to have some sort of a skin. condition on these. very large legs. She's got calves that. look like thighs. I'm sorry. She's the. one leaning into her obesity. We're just. being subjected to it. Uh she did embrace the year's theme. uh in the form of a red feathered and. sequined Valentino gown. And again, shaved off her eyebrows. That literally. looks good on no one. Stop doing that, women of America. Um it's amazing.

because. you had and I'll get to Nicole Kidman in. a second, but Nicole Kidman showed up in. red sequins and was of course stunning, but I have some thoughts on her. And. then this what was like you know, like. if Nicole Kidman was like an angelic. figure, this was like. demonic. Lena Dunham, she looked like a stuffed. sausage in the thing. It was just so. unflattering. A a corpulent lady can look decent. It. is not like that is not not possible.

She just chose to assault us visually. with this gown, which looks like. something my housekeeper uses on my. kitchen pantry shelves. It's just Look. at it. She can't even make it up her the. stairs. I don't know if that's because. of her size, her being out of shape, or. her dress, which you know, went down so. low, maybe it gave her like the little. geisha legs. I have no idea.

I didn't really mean to say little legs. cuz that's not what we were saying, but. Lena Dunham, I I forgive you, but it was tough for me. to get there. Model Heidi Klum made a fool of herself. Um she loves a good costume, but this. look was apparently inspired. Look at. this. Look at this. I don't I don't actually know what's. going on here. It had something to do. with the Acropolis. and like one of the handmaidens. of the Acropolis. Um I'm not sure what that means. I was.

recently at the Acropolis and I don't. remember anybody who looks like that. anywhere. I like Look at her. Um. she looks kind of like a white version. of the Statue of Liberty. Ha. [laughter]. So, she told Vogue that after getting. inspired by the the 1846 sculpture. Veiled Vestal, she wanted to quote. become her. And so she [snorts]. transformed herself into a living stone. sculpture. She told Vogue, "I look hard,

but I'm soft. It's foam and latex. You. don't look recognizable." Which I mean. you know. it's kind of it defeats the point of. what Anna Wintour wants, which is for. all of us to be noticing the the A-level. celebrities and how fashionable they. are. I think that's probably I I just. answered my own question. No offense to. Heidi Klum. She seems like a nice. person, but she's not an A-list. celebrity. She'll show up to the opening. of an envelope. She's basically on every. singing reality show. It's just you.

know, your basic good-looking guest. I. mean honestly, she's not really even a star. So I guess. it makes sense to go completely. unrecognizable. One of the most criticized looks of the. night was former astronaut Katy Perry. Um she chose a rather unconventional. look, though it was kind of a cheat from. Kim Kardashian's look a couple of years. ago. She was sporting a white Stella. McCartney gown. with a long train, a face. full of metal.

Okay, so it's like a full metal mask. I. mean honestly, Kim Kardashian did this a. couple years ago where she had a mask. that hid her face. Like I Do you really. want to be following a Kardashian. on the style choices? like. you know, but maybe she does cuz she's, you know, good friends with Lauren. Sanchez, who is good friends with all. the Kardashians. So, it's possible she. doesn't find that shameful. Uh she had matching white gloves for the. face mask. The gloves were, of course, six-fingered. >> [laughter]. >> Was that a nod to her treason trip to. outer space and what she saw? Did she.

see aliens during her 12-minute trip up. and back down? Have you been? Okay. Uh. People magazine reports that the weird. mask was a nod. to Paris' public performance. as art. It was a It was a nod, you see. Here she is on the steps leading in. Um and it was designed to be, quote, "A. literal and symbolic reflection that. invites the observer to consider that. their perception of others can mirror. their own internal war world and.

conversely mask truth." It's a long way. of saying, "Stop writing mean things. about me. I'm an absolutely lovely. person. And I don't want to be bullied. for allegedly shoving my vag in some. unsuspecting young woman's face to the. point where the woman vomited and a. criminal investigation into me is now. underway in Australia. That's Okay? Yeah, that's your issues reflecting on. you from my mask. >> [laughter]. >> Actress Sarah Paulson, this is She was the AOC of this year's.

Met Gala. She wore a dollar bill mask. made out of leather to reflect the 1%. being blinded by money. Are you kidding me? This woman's. worth at reportedly over 12 million. I. guarantee you it's more like 30 million. she's worth. The designer said that the. collection was a reflection of the greed. and corruption that comes with extreme. power. Um. The Met Gala costs roughly $100,000. per person. If you were to buy a table, it's $350,000.

So, just stop with the lectures on. elitism and wealth from the people who. attend this thing. The stars don't pay. The you get invited, you know, by Anna. or by somebody who bought a table. Anna. has to approve those, too. So, like, if. you're Estée Lauder and you swoop in and. buy a table for $350,000, you can't just. invite who you want. Anna Wintour has to. tell you who from your company can come. What self-respecting businessman would. agree to this? Grow a pair. Honestly,

it's like so humiliating. Um. So, in any event, they still want to. lecture us on money. Okay, it's. you're you're at the Met Gala. Get a. clue. Also sporting a blindfolded look, actress Rachel Zegler, you know, the. woke Snow White. She was in the. 2022 live-action remake for Disney. Uh. she decided Snow White Snow White. Yeah, that's what she should have been called. It wasn't woke enough. Calling the original quote "extremely. dated when it comes to the ideas of.

women being in roles of power." Look at. her bizarre movements with her arms in. her mouth. Look at this. What even is this? I don't really know. what she's doing. She's she's uh in an outfit. >> [snorts]. >> that she says was inspired by the 1833. painting The Execution of Lady Jane. Grey. Grey was beheaded by Queen Mary. the First. And what she's like she's blindfolded. cuz they're going to chop her head off. Okay. Um some of her uh fans believe that this.

was a reference to her own encounter. with cancel culture and how she was. wrongfully scapegoated for being a. annoying person. How was she. wrongfully scapegoated? Like, she she is. a annoying and we all called her out on. it. Then there was the very bizarre This. guy's so freaky and bizarre, I won't. listen to his songs. Like, very few. people when their songs come on the. radio, I'll make an active effort to. press, you know, forward or rewind or. skip. Um [snorts] this guy's one of them. because he's so creepy and disturbing.

and obsessed with the sexualization of. children in some imagery, devils, um his in own enormous he makes Lena. Dunham look like Twiggy. Uh and that's 33-year-old British pop. star Sam Smith. He's disgusting. He describes himself as non-binary. He. goes by they/them, of course. So, he naturally showed up wearing a. dress. An embellished black gown weighing 52. lb. And let me tell you something. He.

didn't need any extra pounds put on him, okay? His coat was adorned with over 230,000. crystals and beads, hand-placed by a. team of 45 artisans over 800 hours of. work. Imagine Imagine like. having to work on one of these gowns and. thinking, "Oh my god, who am I getting? Am I getting Nicole Kidman? You know, am. I getting like Zendaya?" No, you're. getting the fat they/them Sam Smith. Devil worshiper. Oh my god. Now, this is Hunter Schafer. Hunter is a.

27-year-old man dressing up as a woman. for the red carpet. Schafer is an actor on the HBO show. Euphoria. He showed up in a Prada gown. inspired by a painting of. a 9-year-old girl. Why is a man showing up to the Met Gala. depict depicting a little girl? You're sick, okay? You're sick. Sam Smith is sick. Anna Wintour is sick.

And by the way, Lauren Sanchez Bezos as. an honorary chair of this event, which. you paid $10 million to be, are you okay with this? Like, do you actually sanction a grown. man showing up dressed as a single-digit. girl? these people. Honestly, they're so. out of touch. Anna Wintour, the. 76-year-old Anna Wintour, you're good. with this? Is that art to you, the. exploitation of little girls by grown. ass men? What what part of high fashion are we. not getting here?

Cuz we don't want any part of it. Then there were the moments that were. supposed to just like witness but not. say anything about. This one's truly bizarre. Everyone's. like talking about it, but they're like. they're they don't want to actually say. what they're thinking. Uh this is Aaron Rose Philip. Philip's. being lauded as making history at the. Met Gala for being and this is not a. joke, the first African-American. transgender model with cerebral palsy in. a wheelchair no less to attend the. event. I mean. like is she a lesbian? That's That I.

think that's the only thing she's. missing. She Is she lesbian? >> [laughter]. >> This is like okay, we all know what. they're doing here. She was born in. Antigua, raised in the US, she's 25. years old. Is this she or he? I don't know. >> [laughter]. >> I don't know. It's a trans person. I I have no idea what the natural sex. is. And as you know, I like to go by. normal like natural biological pronouns, but I got to be honest, I have no idea. what they are here. This person was.

signed by Elite Model Management in. 2018. This person has been featured on the. cover of Vogue. Billboard Chris on X, who we love, who. stands up to the trans mania like nobody. else, writing quote, "The trans industry. never found a person they will not use. and abuse for profit and propaganda. They'll even give cross-sex hormones to. a quadriplegic with cerebral palsy.". I can't. Okay. This is It's ridiculous. Um.

Okay. We also had to endure the women. who will go to extreme lengths to never. age. Um I'm talking extreme. 76-year-old Vera. Wang showed up. dressed as a 10-year-old boy. I think. that was her costume. I'm a 10-year-old. boy. I mean, I have a 12-year-old boy. So, I know what the torsos of young boys. look like, and this is it. Absolutely no breasts. Absolutely no. waist. Just a rectangular. torso. This is before a young boy's.

shoulders have. grown outward. And that's what she looks. like. She looks like a pencil. Straight. up and down. Just a pencil. Made of lead. Absolutely no curves. Uh I guess she's just the middle of the. pencil. The tip top would be curved, her head. But she looks terrible. Honestly, she's got a little like a she. It looks like a chest binder. Except she. has no breasts really to bind. Vera Wang. is flat-chested. That's fine. She's. leaning in. I guess this is the new. thing. We're supposed to lean in to the.

super flat-chested look. It's gross. I'm. sorry, it's gross. Her hair is bleached. blonde. She's like all skin skin and. bones. with one arm and a puffy black sleeve. Move on, Vera. Move on. Um okay. Lauren Sanchez Bezos. I have to be. honest. I expected more. I thought at. least she sat she'd have some like sort. of big fashion statement that we would. be like, oh okay, you know. Cool, whatever. No. This is She's going.

to wear this anywhere. This is so. boring. It's like a blue dress with the It's. you know, top It's not topless. It's a. you know, um strapless. It's got a V to show off her enormous. fake breasts. Okay. Um she That's what she shows everywhere. She's very very proud of her massive. fake breasts. I mean that's not like. something we can't all have. Literally, just pay your doctor and you can have. her size triple whatever breasts. It's. not hard. But she too seemed to be desperately.

trying to look like a Kardashian, but. I've got to be honest, not as good. Not. as good. Let me tell you something the. real problem with Lauren Sanchez Bezos. So I got to call her Lauren Sanchez. Bezos now. I mean honestly, I don't. understand like you're a 55-year-old. woman 56. Who changes her name at that point? Okay, but. she Here's the problem with her. It's. not the dress, which was a war. It's the face. It is the face. She is so. pulled and prodded. She looks at Doug. called it like an alien. I mean, which. is perfect given what she did without a.

space. Look how pulled and prodded she. is. The the cheeks, sister, I'm going to. tell you you have all the money in the. world and I know that you can correct. this. You go to your not your surgeon. You clearly have the wrong one. Go to a. good sir Go to go to a New York surgeon. Get out of Miami and LA cuz they've gone. they've done wrong by you. You go you tell them you want that. filler out of your face. You tell them.

you want that filler out of your lips. You tell them they've done something to. your eyes that's making you look. cross-eyed. I don't know what it is, but. you look cross-eyed now. You never. looked cross-eyed before. At least I. don't have a long history of studying. your face, but in your younger pictures. you did not look cross-eyed. You then find a way to cover up some of. your large forehead. Um and then you. ease up on the Botox unless you've had a. forehead lift and it's no longer. movable. Like I get it. I have Botox.

I'm going to show you right here. Look. Here's me back on camera. You get it? I. have the I have the Botox, but I can do. this. I can lift my eyebrows and I can. lower them. It's not a huge I can do it. enough, but that's because I say to the. derm, "I want some movement. I don't. want to be frozen." Lauren, my my. friend, that's what you need to tell. your doc. "I want some movement. Take. out the filler." And if you have a big. saggy face when you've gotten your. filler taken out of your lips and your. weird cheeks, everyone's starting to.

look Asian. They're putting so much. filler in whatever in their face. They're all starting to have squinty. eyes and look Asian, which is fine if. you're Asian, but she's not. She's. Latina Latinx. So, if everything is saggy, then you can. get the Kris Jenner facelift, which. would serve you much better than what. you are doing. All right, she's worth. $280 billion now through marriage. She's never publicly publicly confirmed. whether she's under undergone any.

procedures. She doesn't have to. It's. fine. It's not technically any of our business. whether she has or hasn't, but you know, we're allowed to speculate. And like. the online people are saying she has. more plastic in her face than a. Tupperware factory. And that's how it. looks to me, too. It's just it it's it's too much, okay? Um I'm going to go through. a couple more. Stand by. Take a look at. this woman, Chloe Malle. Chloe Malle,

she is the new head of editorial content. at Vogue. Okay? You would be forgiven if. you did not know that this person is. basically the new Anna Wintour. Look at this frumpy orange tangerine who. dared to walk on the Met Gala. Look at. her posture. Young girls everywhere. Okay, young girls everywhere, look at. this posture. This is no way to present yourself to. the world. Shoulders back, people. Stand.

tall, as erect as possible toward the. ceiling. You put your shoulders back. You lower them down. You elongate your. neck and your head. Ideally always, but. certainly when you are at the Met Gala. She is instead forward shouldered. She's. like eliminated her neck as a body part. She's kind of looking over her shoulder. She looks a little troll-like. She's got. rounded trapezius.

uh making her look hunchbacked and. ogre-like. And on top of all that, she's. wearing a hideous It's not even really. orange. It's like more tangerine of a. dress that does not look like art at. all. Doesn't look like art. Now, a word a couple of other words. You've got. Nicole Kidman who showed up in all red. sequins with. a lot of feathers in the middle of her. dress. It was reportedly by Chanel and.

she looks stunning because Nicole Kidman. is of course. taking care of herself as she ages. She's in her low 60s now, I think 62. And she's got the long long long blonde. extensions down below the butt and the. huge huge huge red feathers around the. waist and her figure is spectacular and. she's spectacular and she's a genuine. Hollywood A-lister and that will. complete the list of Hollywood A-listers. who were at the Met Gala. That like I'm. just going to tell you there weren't. many others. So, I just want to say she.

looked great. She looked stunning. I. love the dress. I don't know that it. matched the fashion is art theme. That didn't look like art to me. Just. look like a dress that she looked. amazing in. Same for Margot Robbie. Boring. You look. so boring. Your your hair was boring. Your dress. was boring. Your pose was boring and you. were boring. And that's unfortunate because you know, you you too can look stunning but you. chose not to. Zoe Kravitz too, some.

black lace number. Boring boring boring. I didn't find it interesting at all. But. almost no Hollywood A-listers. I guess. Margot Robbie's also a Hollywood. A-lister. But none of the big stars. Honestly, like where were the big stars? Apparently, they tried to move heaven. and earth to get Meryl Streep to. co-chair the event because she's of. course in The Devil Wears Prada and The. Devil Wears Prada 2 which just hit just. hit theaters portraying a woman called. Miranda Priestly but it's obviously Anna.

Wintour and um they begged her they. begged her to come to the Met Gala and. they she'd get the full Anna treatment. and the you know red carpet. And to her. credit Meryl Streep was like, "Oh hell. no. I I have zero desire to do this. I. don't want to go. I don't want to dress. up. I don't want to rub elbows with. these people. It's a no.". And it was very interesting cuz this. year you had a bunch of stars who showed. up. The Daily Mail was pointing this out. without their male counterparts. Um. uh. Zendaya was there without Harry Styles.

to whom she just got No, wait. Was it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Right? No. No, it was it was Zoë. Zoë Kravitz. She. was there without Harry Styles. And uh. Katy Perry was there without Justin. Trudeau. And uh. Kylie Jenner was there without Timothy. Chalamet. Here's Zoë Kravitz. Boring. Boring. It looks like something I put on. on Halloween just hand out candy to. kids. Um Justin Bieber wasn't there but Hailey. Bieber. Hailey Baldwin Bieber, his wife was.

It like the the guys basically said no. And Timothy Chalamet, who's dating. Kendall Jenner, he was down the road at. the Knicks game. The men are over it. They are over it. And good for them because nine times out. of 10 if you're a man and you show up at. this thing in costume like. on point when it comes to the style, you. look like a flaming homosexual. Um which most of them aren't so it's a. problem, right? If you are, hey, what do. you do you but like if you are a. straight man like a Justin Bieber, you. don't really want to show up gay, have.

everybody speculating for days just how. gay you are because you wear a very gay. outfit which all these designers are and. they they work out their weird gay. fantasies on these male actors or. singers who show up. So I applaud those. guys for not going. And as a result their female. counterparts just showed up, walked the. red carpet, and that was it. That's what. it's all about. But the genuine A-list. Hollywood talent wasn't there and hasn't. been there in years. There was no Brad Pitt, there was no.

Leo, there was no Tom Cruise, there was. no Robert Downey Jr., there was no Liam. Neeson, there was no Dwayne "The Rock". Johnson, there was no Will Smith, there was no Denzel. Like those people. do not attend this thing. It is now much more like the C-listers. who you're like, "Uh, what do I know. Sarah Paulson for again?". I can't think of one movie I know her. from. I know she was dating. the the woman um. Who's the the woman from.

I don't know. It's the the David E. Kelley series. uh The Practice, who played a judge. Um. Holland Taylor, thank you, Steve. Okay, oh, I guess The Rock was there. Okay, we. got one. We got one big male. Literally, a very large male. Um but my. point You got my point. You know, it's. like you really got to look You got to. really squint your eyes to see like is. there anyone anyone who who I recognize. who's there? Like who are the fashion. leaders of tomorrow? I don't know.

I don't think they were there. I think. it's the girls on Instagram who are. showing us how to style an outfit. I. think those are the ones that most. normal Americans are actually looking to. if they want a fashion tip. They're. certainly not going with Katy Perry's. weird mat weird mask on the face. situation. And Anna Wintour, by the way, you looked. gross. I don't know what you were. wearing. It was very ugly. Some green. monstrosity. Um it didn't work. It wasn't flattering. to you. Uh she's very very anti-black.

gowns and black clothing. Well, I mean, it might have served you well. I don't. know if you made a good choice. in wearing what you wore. Um. so I don't know. I think it's uh it's. it's a fail. Where was Jennifer. Lawrence, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock? I don't know. Um instead we got people I. I to look up and people like Heidi Klum. Of course, there were the Kardashians. Kim Kardashian was there. Kendall. Jenner, as I think I mentioned, and. uh.

the other one. Kylie. Kylie Jenner is the one who's. with Timothy Chalamet. I always screw. them up. I'm going to tell you the truth. I. thought these three looked great. This is Kendall. She's the supermodel. That's stunning. When you she puts her. arms out, it makes enormous wings and. she looks great. This woman looks great. in anything. She said many many plastic. surgeries. So, if you are a very homely. person sitting at home thinking there's. no hope for you, you totally should feel. inspired by like if you if you had a few. surgeries, you could look like her. Cuz. trust me, she looked nothing like this.

when she was 13, 14, 15. We all watched. her on Keeping Up with the Kardashians, but she looks stunning now and I thought. the fashion was gorgeous. Kim. had on this pointy like orange latex. number. I thought she looked great. I. I thought she looked stunning. Her body. looked great. Her hair looked great and. she looked great. And um Kylie, the one. who's dating Chalamet, looked awesome, too. I loved her outfit. It was weird. It was like latex with the pointy. Kylie uh with the pointy boobs and the. There was even a belly button situation. going on there.

With like a a bodice on the bottom like. the a train on the bottom that looked. like it was almost falling off of her. So, that was kind of sensual. but not inappropriate, which is, you. know, the Kardashians can go. inappropriate and they didn't. I have to. say, I would definitely put all three of. them on my best dressed look. And the. mom, Kris Jenner, wore a kimono. She. looked good. I liked her outfit. So, for. once, I'm giving a thumbs up to the. Kardashian. four. The other sister, Kourtney, never shows. up and then there's another sister, too. There's two sisters that never come up. There's Kim. She looks great. I mean, I.

thought she she looked stunning. Let's hope they stayed out of the. bathroom. um and the dry humping like I saw the. last time I was at the Met Gala. For. those of you wondering, when you go into. the Met Gala, it's really all about that. walk on the red carpet or last night it. was the green carpet. That's kind of it. That's what the event's all about. Um. you walk up at. the there's they treat everybody who's. not a celebrity like, you know, the. people who paid to be at those tables. like they're nothing. I mean, it's. really shameful. Like those poor people.

like the people who have no public name. run up those stairs in shame because no. one's interested in them even though. they're they look fantastic. They've. done it up like no one cares if you're. not like Beyoncé, whatever. Um. you go in, you mill about, you look at. the displays in the museum, you're. looking at the celebs, you're taking selfies even though you're. technically not supposed to, but. everybody does. Um and then you sit down. for dinner that most people don't eat. because no one eats when they're in. these gowns. And then you move to like.

an area for dancing. When I was there, I. can't remember who was there the first. year, but The Weeknd was there the. second year. Um they had some good. entertainment there this year, but. nobody really dances because they're in. these enormous high heels. Like I can't. It's all just about a photo op. It's not. about actually bonding with anybody, getting to know anybody. It's a photo. op. It's a massive PR event. Oh, I. forgot to mention the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena. Venus, total bore. I'll put her uh in the category with. Margot Robbie.

Uh swing and a miss. You looked utterly. boring. I don't remember anything about. your dress. There was some lace, I. think, on your head. Um Serena, I don't. remember what you wore last night, but. your your outfit for the night before. was dreadful. It was back on the red. sequins. theme. It It was It went all the way up. her ass. I saw total ass of Serena. Williams, which, you know, it's a lot. And the dress was cut all the way up to. show ass and a rather large leg. And it. was just inappropriate. Okay, it was. inappropriate. She's too old to be this. needy. That's generally my takeaway with.

these people who are older and show so. much skin. Like I really hope that I'm. just Serena is younger than I am, but I. really hope that when I'm like Madonna's. age, in my 60s, or. Vera Wang's age 76, I am not that needy. I do not need someone to see my fully. naked torso or ass, here in Serena's. case, in order for me to feel sexy or. good about myself. That's like this is. just not. it doesn't work with a huge long blonde.

wig, of course. All right. Um. it ended with a return to the Met Gala. here. Um Blake Lively making her very first. Met Gala appearance since 2022. And on the same day she reached a. settlement in her lawsuit against Justin. Baldoni and Wayfarer Studios, his. studios, over the film It Ends With Us. Lively telling Vogue, quote, "I haven't. been to the Met since giving birth to my.

fourth child. Every year I am a. different version of myself than the. last. So, to be able to stand in the. version of myself that I am today" Who. talks like that? "To be able to stand in. the version of myself that I am today, and all the experiences I have had in. strength and confidence is important to. me." These are lies. No one who actually. feels strong and confident talks about. themself like that. "I sit here at the. anchor desk in my strength and. confidence to bring you the news.". Nobody talks like this.

Like she's just trying to give you the. adjectives she wants you to repeat about. her because she has not those things. I mean sure, I said this to you many. times, but like. the 6'7" center doesn't tell you how. tall he is. If they If somebody is. telling you the adjectives they are in. this way, it is an ultimate ultimate. tell that they don't feel those things. about themselves. So, she does not feel. strong, she feels weak. She does not. feel confident, she is She has a suffers. from a lack of confidence, which seems.

if very obvious. because she's a bully. And that's how all bullies are. They. they None of them has confidence or. feels strength. That's why they have to. behave like that to make them feel those. things for a moment or two. And she is a bully. And I have a lot of. thoughts on. this settlement, why it came about, and. why it had to happen. Uh and some new reporting on exactly. what changed hands to make this [music]. lawsuit go away, and we will talk about.

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about this at guardyourcard.com. and consider telling Congress to guard. your card. The big news yesterday was the. settlement [music] 2 weeks before trial. of the case brought by Blake Lively. against Justin Baldoni and his movie. studio, not to mention the PR team. representing him. Um this came as a big shock to most. because so far they had been saying all. along there'll be no settlement like or.

we're going to see this through right to. the bitter end and a bitter end it was. indeed. Um I want to take you back. before we kick this off to what Brian. Friedman, who represented Justin. Baldoni, to what he said to me back in. January 2025 right after this thing was. filed. Uh he's a friend. He's also my. own personal attorney and he will make. your life very unpleasant if you come. after me. Uh but that's an aside. Um. he came on the show and he talked about.

what was going to happen in this. litigation. Remember what happened was. Blake Lively, just as a quick primer, she starred in. this movie It Ends With Us with Jeff. with Justin Baldoni. He had purchased. the rights to that Colleen Hoover novel. It was his film. He agreed with um Blake. Lively that she would star in it and she. agreed to that to just to be the star, not the co-writer, not the co-director. She had an executive producer credit but. that's meaningless. It's just like a. vanity plate. And um. when she did the movie, she started to.

complain that he was allegedly doing. things inappropriate on the set, that. she felt like he was writing in sex. scenes that weren't there and other. allegations and they took a break during. COVID and when they came back she wanted. him to sign this long rider of all the. things he promised he would not do like. go into her dressing room unannounced as. she claimed had allegedly been done with. We would later learn that she invited. him into the dressing room while she was. breastfeeding, something she would. complain about in the lawsuit. E- even though he she she said I'm. breastfeeding and he said, "Oh, I can. come later." She said, "No, come now.".

Okay, there was there was such a list of. those things where if you just heard her. half of it, you're like, "Oh god, he's. terrible." Then you heard the other half. of it, it was like, "Oh wow, she's. terrible for misleading me in this way.". So, she filed that she filed first a. complaint with the California Human. Rights Department. And then somehow, I. mean, gee, who knows, it wound up in the. New York Times. I don't I have no idea. how the New York Times got wind of her. super confidential complaint with the. California Human Human Rights Division, but lo and behold, the New York Times, they're good scoopers, and they found. out.

Uh shortly thereafter, we had. cross-lawsuits. She sued Baldoni and. Wayfarer and Justin's PR team. claiming that they had unleashed a that. she'd been discriminated against, sexually harassed, and then that they. had retaliated against her when she. complained with the California Human. Rights Division and with them. internally. And um he cross-claimed against her, too, for defamation of character and so. on and so forth. The litigation. proceeded. He was very aggressive in his defense. and very aggressive in. his PR, thanks to his lawyer Bryan.

Freedman, who, let me tell you, has been through. this a time or two. I mean, his. representation of me in my battle with. NBC was one of the first huge. uh litigations that he'd handled that. was equally big on the PR front battle. and on the legal battle. And Bryan is equally gifted at both. And he understood in this case, and he's. handled so many in between, but um he. understood in this case that both were. going to be equally necessary here. In. fact, the truth is the PR battle was.

even more important in this lawsuit. So, we spoke to him weeks after the New York. Times article dropped on this program, and he made a prediction. about how this was going to go. for Blake Lively. I think it's hot, too. What's your prediction of where things. go for from here? I mean, you know, my prediction is is is. is that this is going to get worse and. worse for Blake Lively. And the reason. it's going to get worse and worse is. people are going to be more comfortable.

telling the truth. And what this is. about is really the truth. And she's put. Jamie Heath and and Justin Baldoni in in. in this in this position of being called. sexual predators, sexual harassers. They. have no choice but to go all the way. No choice. So, you know, we're going to go all the. way. And and the unique thing again in. this case is going to be we're going to. put every single text message out there. We're going to put every email out.

there. We're going to put every document. out there that's relevant to the case, not something that's disrespectful or. otherwise would embarrass Ms. Lively cuz. that's not what we want to do. But we. want to make sure that people have the. facts and people can make their own. determinations as to what happened. And that would prove to be devastating. to Blake Lively. It's the reason she settled. Because they never relented. They kept.

confronting her via the media with the. truth about her behavior toward Justin. Baldoni and toward the press and toward. others and all the things she did that. made everyone loathe her. And it was devastating for her. Her. reputation is in tatters. It is in ruins. thanks to her. Uh they put out a joint statement. And I. want you I want to read you the joint. statement and take you through it from a. legal perspective. Okay? It's. remarkable. It is a huge [snorts].

accomplishment for the Baldoni defense. team. It reads as follows. A joint statement. Okay, so they're both all of them. uh signing on to this. The end product, the movie It Ends With. Us, is a source of pride to all of us. who worked to bring it to life. Raising. awareness and making a meaningful impact. in the lives of domestic violence. survivors and all survivors is a goal. that we stand behind. Okay, generic. Go see our movie. It was. a good one. Then we get to the meat of it.

We acknowledge the process presented. challenges and recognize concerns raised. by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard. Now, I'm going to guarantee I haven't talked. to Bryan. I guarantee you that that line. there was the subject of about 200. revisions back and forth, back and. forth, back and forth. Right? You I can. feel it getting watered down and watered. down and watered down from like Blake. Lively had righteous claims that she was. correct to bring. Unfortunately, they.

were thrown out by a judge and whatever. and this is the best she could do. Whatever, I'm sure it sounded much more. favorable to Blake Lively when it was. first drafted. Instead, we wind up with. the process of making the movie. presented challenges and we recognize. concerns raised by Lively deserved to be. heard. So good. I mean, honestly, every. defense lawyer out there is like that's. excellent. It's the best you could ever. hope for. We remain firmly committed to. workplaces free of improprieties.

and unproductive environments. There is. nothing nothing in here about sexual. harassment. Nothing. Or retaliation. Just workplaces free of improprieties. and unproductive environments. You could. be talking about people who leave early. and who are lazy on the set. That does not in any way suggest any. sexual harassment, never mind. retaliation. It is as anodyne a. statement as you could get. It is our. sincere hope that this brings closure.

and allows all involved to move forward. constructively and in peace. That's team Blake saying, "Please don't. hurt us anymore, Bryan Freedman.". But you're you're the one who started. this. Uh including a respectful environment. online. That's a message for all of us to stop. saying nasty things about Blake Lively. Well, I hate to break it to you, team. Blake, but I didn't sign a settlement. agreement, and I'm totally free and.

emboldened to say whatever I want about. you, including that you're a liar. You're a liar, and your legal team are a. bunch of liars. Remember when you. subpoenaed me in this case trying to get. my documents on you? This happened. They subpoenaed. me, my company, and tried to come out. after my documents that my team and I. put together before we covered her on. this show, before we interviewed Bryan.

Freedman on this show. They actually had. the gall to ask for my attorney-client. communications between me and my lawyer. thinking we had nothing better to. discuss than Blake Lively. Um. and I told her to pound sand. We I hired. a lawyer, it's outside lawyer because. Bryan was handling this case. I didn't. want him to have to, you know, be. conflicted. And the lawyer went in, objected, and they lost. Okay? They they. were forced to stand down, and then she. had the nerve when she was forced to. stand down to come out and say, "Oh, we. never subpoenaed Megan Kelly," which was. a lie. I can show you the document with.

my name on it asking for my documents. I. had to hire a lawyer and go into court. and defend it, and I won. So, I know. they're liars, and [snorts]. I know they're liars from the complaint. that they filed against Justin, which. Bryan bit by bit undermined with proof. With proof that she had taken things out. of context, that she was determined to. paint herself as a victim. I'm telling. you, this woman, Blake Lively, I think. she has Munchausen's. If one word of what she alleged was. sincere in her head, she has. Munchausen's. Or like she she tries to. make something bad happen to her. She.

like insists that she has to be a victim. because like something terrible's. happened to her. It's like some form of Munchausen's. And um um. either that or she's just a bald-faced. liar who made the whole thing up because. she understood that she was suffering. uh PR-wise thanks to her own bad deeds. and she wanted somebody to blame it on. She wanted someone to blame it on. Um the the. Daily Mail today I'm I want to give. credit where it's due. It's I think it's. the Daily Mail not the Post. But um is.

reporting not. $1. exchanged hands. Not $1. TMZ also has. it. Not $1. He didn't pay her one red cent. Can you believe that? That is a total and complete victory for. him with this anodyne statement and she. dismisses all charges. It is. a complete and total win for Justin. Baldoni and it is a complete and total.

surrender. by Blake Lively and admission that she. had no claims. She won't be forced to do it publicly. She was allowed to save face by just. saying, "Oh, we settled it." and give. this statement, you know, "We both agree. on appropriate workplaces." And now. she's going to run around and she's. going to try to paint herself as like, "I can't talk about it because of an. NDA." but like, you know, wink wink, we. we care about workplaces and I care. about women. I care I deeply care. And. the press is going to let her get away. with that. But the public is not.

And this is where I want to. offer. a free PR lesson to Blake Lively, to. Meghan Markle, another person who wasn't. at the Met Gala even though her good. friends the Kardashians were all there. and very tight with the co-chair Lauren. Sanchez Bezos couldn't quite manage to. get an invite for that loser. But both women need the same lesson and.

I am just the gal to provide it. When you come under withering attack by. the media, which happens to virtually every public. figure at one point or another in his or. her life, there is only one play. Be quiet and take it. I know you can go out there and you can. complain. You can fight back. It's fine to correct the record if. somebody's saying, you know, what you. stole from a bank. It's fine for you to. say that is not true. You ideally without too much emotion,

you can correct the record, but don't make a huge deal out of it. Don't call additional attention. to the terrible things being said about. you, right? Like. whatever. At least let time pass. You. know, ideally months before you get out. there and subtly say something about it. because. it only calls more attention to the. negative thing that's being said about. you. And on top of that, Americans don't want. to hear it. They don't want to hear it. They don't.

care about your PR problems, Blake. Lively. You're married to Ryan Reynolds. He's reportedly worth $400 million. You yourself reportedly earned $21. million in the 8 years preceding the. filing of this lawsuit, according to. those involved in the case. So, you're. earning what? $4 million and change per. film? That's not bad for you. You're. really not that talented. You're really. just the Gossip Girl actress. Your life is grand. You have four. wonderful children. You live in some.

huge mansion, I think up in Bedford, New. York or some place in the sort of hills. of Connecticut. You're doing great. Shut up. You got your liquor company. You got your hair company. Like shut the up about your bad PR, which amounted to like a month's worth. of negative articles, which he didn't even generate. But you. honestly, even if he had, shut up. We. don't care. America has its own problems and they.

look like real problems, not your stupid. problems. Oh, but I had bad things said. about me in the Daily Mail or the New. York Post. Oh, cry me a river. You ruined your own reputation. by telegraphing to the world that you. could not take a rhetorical punch in the. face. That you were so thin-skinned you had to. run and file a lawsuit and on top of. that try to ruin a man with less power. than you. It's one thing for a bully to. take on someone of equal or greater. power. It's almost impossible, actually,

to be dubbed a bully in those. circumstances. If you have equal or the. other person has greater power than you, you're not bullying them at all. Uh. that wasn't the case here. She and her. dragons, Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds, her best friend and her husband, and. Blake herself had way more power than. Justin Baldoni and she was determined to. ruin his life. to dub him as a Me Too-er, as a sexual. predator, to misrepresent his emails, his behavior. on set, that of his partners from. Wayfarer, and she did not care at all.

She just wanted to cloak herself in fake. Me Too glory. She was a Me Too stolen valor thief. And had she just taken it, had she let. us beat her up for her admittedly, I. mean not admitted by her but the rest of. us admit, terrible behavior in her. interview with that Nordic journalist, I. like your baby bump, too. Why do they. always ask us about our fashion? Why do. they ask instead of the man? Blah blah. blah. Parker Posey, you're awful, too. Had she just taken it cuz she would have.

realized I was bad there. I should. have just. mishandled that. And and ideally issued. an apology to that young woman. Had she come out and said, "You know. what? Some of my tone around the promo. of a domestic violence movie it may have. been off. Let me explain it to you in an. interview. I we actually fought. Maybe that was the better way to promote. it. But now having seen it I I understand. how it was perceived as insensitive. Whatever. You could have You could have. handled it like that. But instead you filed a lawsuit and you. tried to viciously ruin a man's life. And for that we do not forgive you. You.

haven't sought forgiveness. You don't. seem sorrowful or regretful. at all. In fact, I believe you'd do it again. So now you'll have to live with the. consequences of calling attention to. your own bad behavior, the reasons. people disliked you, which got amplified. the the Streisand effect times 2,000. Everyone's seen these terrible clips of. you, whereas they wouldn't have if. before. It would have been a small. 1-month deal at most. You're the one who. made it an unforgettable 2-year saga for. all of us, and you ruined your career.

No no director wants to work with you. They know you're going to do this to. them. They They know you're a nightmare, that you're a terrorist. That's what the. Sony executive, who was responsible for. putting this movie out, called you, a. terrorist. If the Sony guy's going to. say that, if you're going to do this to. Justin Baldoni, they've seen your. out-of-context allegations and so on, no. one is going to want to work with you. You're box office poison. You did the same thing to yourself that. Meghan Markle did to herself. Justin Baldoni will emerge from this.

smelling like a rose. He looks. victimized by you. and like someone who decided not to take. it lying down, who hired himself a very good lawyer, who was able to out you for exactly what. you are. So you will not move on and sail off. into the sunset with great movie roles. or in high demand in Hollywood. You've. reached the apex of your career. And you look, your life is still great. You have your great husband. You have. your kids. You have your multi-million.

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code m e g y n. We've got more updates in the JP Morgan. sex slave [music] scandal. A brand new. filing and this ex-banker now claiming. that he has new evidence supporting his. crazy allegations. Uh, this is a wild. story, and the update is crazy. Uh, joining me in the studio are the hosts. of the Red Scare podcast, Anna Khachiyan. and Dasha Nekrasova. Ladies, welcome. back. Thank you. >> Thank you. So good to have you both.

>> to be here. We're just joking in the. break that there's a lot's happened. since the last time you were here. >> It has, yeah. Yeah, in all of our lives. >> [laughter]. >> Uh, okay, before we start on the JP. Morgan thing, cuz I've got a a of. thoughts, and I know you do, too. Let me. ask you about our first two stories. today. Did you watch any of the Met Gala. last night? >> We sure did. Thoughts on the fashions. and. Um those in attendance? My favorite My. favorite looks were Hunter Schafer, Zoë. Kravitz, and. almost Kendall Jenner. I loved the.

dress, but her and Kylie both did the. Skims nipple. >> Yeah. And They're up to something, yeah. Yeah, it's like promo. >> cooking up a promo campaign. You're. probably right. And they're going to. make a million bucks, yeah. They do. Everything they touch is They touch. turns to millions. Yeah, though I guess. Kylie was wearing Schiaparelli, am I. saying that correctly? Down below. >> Kendall was wearing Gap Studio by Zac. Posen. >> Oh, really? >> a mega brand, yeah. I thought the dress. was with the with the wings. I thought. that was actually very cool. The dress.

was fantastic. >> I like that. >> It was. >> I Zoë Kravitz, though, I thought she was. She looked boring. It was like a black. lace dress that I I would wear on. Halloween. But she's so lovely. I don't. know. >> Okay. All right, you're just rooting for. her. >> And it was like goth princess. They took. the neckline of the original design. down. What did you make of Lena Dunham, girls? I loved that. What did you love about. it? Um just she's being herself, like. unapologetically herself. She came It's. like an It should be apologetic. >> [laughter]. >> Well, I love that she came up in there.

with like her ingrown hair scars and um. her burn marks on her. >> Is that what that is? The ingrown hair. scars on her legs? She's She's got. There's She's There's blemishes, but. she's owning it. But the legs, you don't. get blemishes on your legs. What? There's There's marks all over her legs. that are very weird. I don't know what. happened to her. >> person. Oh, so they could be burns? No, there's Who knows? >> I don't know either, but I mean, no. Maybe she's just a klutz, and they are. tiny bruises, but there were a lot of.

them. Mhm. And I found the whole thing. very disturbing. I just I don't think. anybody wants to see that. I think it's. so cool to accessorize with your skin. problems because we spend all this time. like minimizing them. >> Yes, and you want to show them off. >> Yeah. Hell no, I'm against it. You know, she and Nicole Kidman were doing kind of. a similar look like sequins and. feathers, bright red. And I think even. though Nicole Kidman has like 20 years. on her and is like a great Hollywood. beauty, Lena kind of mogged. >> [laughter]. >> Cuz she looked so out there. >> So you're saying Lena Dunham wore it.

better. Yes. Oh, wow. >> People are going to hate it. I mean, Nicole Kidman was kind of like, "Okay, it's fine." She looked like she was in. an episode of White Christmas, you know, like at the end. Like, "Okay, but what. was special about it?" You know, like. what was. >> was a lot of looks like that. And like. the theme, I think ever since they tried. to do camp and like no one could. understand it, they've made it more and. more This year it was. fashion is art. Yeah, whatever that. means. The dressed body, they kept. saying, which was like basically the.

bare minimum. So. I thought you made. that up. >> [laughter]. >> The dressed body. It's about the dressed. body. And I was like, "Well, they all. certainly dressed their body." Isn't. that what all fashion is, [laughter] the. dressed body? And then you also you. always have Irina Shayk, Shank, whatever. her name is. She's always naked. Yeah, I. guess this time she was doing like the. Greco-Roman sculptural torso thing. It. didn't really hit for me, but you know, it's fashion. She pointed it out. Whatever the occasion. Yeah, yeah. Well. Oh, you can't blame her for that. I. mean, but celebs are so dumb that they.

have to um make the instructions really. foolproof and then they still manage to. botch it every single time. So. This theme was so vague and open-ended. Like I really loved Hunter Schafer's. look because it was inspired by Gustav. Klimt, like Vienna Secession. But you. can't have a theme like that. >> know what Hunter Schafer is. I don't. even know who Hunter Schafer is. She's a famous transgender on. Euphoria. >> the Oh, that was the one No, yeah, I. thought we covered this person. I. thought we covered this.

We You cover this person. No, I think. she shouldn't have looked he he should. not be dressed like a 9-year-old girl. I. mean, that's the fantasy. Ew, so gross. No, I object on behalf of 9-year-old. girls everywhere. No, I it's a no. >> Yeah, yeah, but it's an offensive one. Look, [laughter] I like I don't I'm done. with like what the the woke trans the. the one cerebral palsy. What are the I don't know. There were.

like four other boxes that that person. signed with what? Elite models? Like. yeah, okay. Well, my question is if. you're gay, black, trans, have cerebral. palsy, do all those things cancel each. other out so that you become like the. most desirable woman on the planet? >> Yes, the most privileged There she is. right the most exactly right. It's like. that episode of Modern Family when. they're the two gay guys are trying to. get their daughter their adopted Asian. girl daughter into school and they're. like we got this made, you know, we're. we're gay. We have an Asian daughter. She's adopted and then in comes.

lesbians one of whom is black. >> [laughter]. >> They're like oh damn. Yeah, she. she's she out privileges everybody. They. had the but I guess she works. for Vogue. She's the midge the dwarf. >> Dwarf, dwarf, sorry, the dwarf. >> the dwarf somebody can we put the dwarf. somebody posted the the following. Who. who ate Melissa McCarthy? >> [laughter]. >> Or someone put Melissa McCarthy in the. dryer. She shrunk Melissa McCarthy.

Well, the like what's happening here? Why [snorts] does she look so much like. Melissa McCarthy only in miniature? It's. very strange. I'm not sure what's happening with the. with the waving. Well, what's really. lacking. ever since Joan Rivers died rest in. peace is like no one now the Met Gala is. just. They have the most banal commentary. No. one takes them to task for anything. Um. who was it who wore like the dollar. bill? Was it Sarah Paulson?

>> Sarah Paulson with the dollar bill over. her eyes and it's like Is that supposed. >> Celebs are just getting away with too. much. >> Yeah, it's a comment on the elite, on. the 1%. >> Oh. >> How rich they are. >> They're blinded by. >> tens of millions. >> Lauren Sanchez, yeah. So she but she can. she can comment on it. Yeah, exactly. You're at an event being hosted by. Lauren Sanchez. But you're there under. protest. Yeah. >> Is that what you're trying to tell us? But there was less of that. There was no. like AOC tax the rich dress. There was. it felt more I feel like we're healing a. little bit. >> Okay. If only we could return actual.

celebrities to the Met Gala, then then. we'd be all healed up. >> I was a little disappointed that um. Sauron Momondou and Rama Duwaji um. declined the invitation cuz he could. have played up to you saw a lot of like. South Indian heritage stuff going on. and she has such an art historical face. She's like Oh yeah, that would have been. a great theme for her. She looks. disturbingly disturbingly like the man. accusing the woman at JP [laughter]. Morgan. They look they're like the same. person. I'm sorry. I know that there are memes.

online in which they've used AI to. actually superimpose his face over hers, but the actual faces look disturbingly. similar. But I credit him for not going. because I I think it's for AOC. or Sarah Paulson to show up and be like, "I'm here, but it's under protest." Good. for him for being like, "No, I don't. believe in that. Goodbye." And his. messaging yeah, he's staying on task. Yeah. He's not going to get distracted. with the dollars. >> that. I mean I don't really want him to. stay on task because he's ruining New. York, but I I appreciate the moral.

consistency of it. Exactly, yeah. Um, okay, so now what do we make of the. Baldoni-Lively. settlement? The the word is that she. just like this week hired this very. heavy-hitting litigation firm to try to. tell a telegraph to him, "Oh, I'm going. to trial. Like I'll do it." And not. surprisingly, his lawyer Brian Friedman. and team were not intimidated by that at. all. Like he's an actual litigator who. tries cases all the time. He's like, "Great. Whoever you want." But the truth.

is, she could not let this case go to. trial. She could not let him. cross-examine her. She could not take. the stand. She was about to actually. become Amber Heard. And she had no. choice but to act like she wanted to try. the case all the way up until the end. And then she basically her case got. gutted by the judge 3 weeks ago when he. threw out all the sexual harassment. claims and left her only with one tiny. slice of it. And by the way, Balducci. was released from the case when the. judge issued that. So the only defendants left were. Wayfarer, his company, and um.

the PR firm. that they alleged was part of a. retaliation campaign against her by by. allegedly pushing for bad press. And his. defense was going to be they never. actually did plant the bad press. He. hired them to get a game plan ready and. they were absolutely prepared to do it, but they didn't have to. Mhm. Cuz she. did it to herself. >> Well, right. And that I believe that now. more than ever because she folded. Mhm. Well, she must have She she was at the. Met Gala. Yeah, hated her look. So she. must have anticipated.

being available. >> Yes. Mhm. She looked like an orange. sherbet. Like a like a big sherbet, you. know, that you used to get in the when. you were a kid with the three different. flavors in there. >> Yeah, it was very Wuthering Heights, a. movie I also hated. >> [laughter]. >> It's lazy to just do the long train. Yeah. Right. And then done. She she. snapped at the little. >> male male valets who are supposed to. flay splay it out. The Daily Mail has. this Look, there's a moment here. Look, look, here she goes. She's like, "No! That's what I wanted. Oh, put it back.

down." She just can't Yeah. Get out of. her own way. >> She needs the PR firm. See, this is why. I can never be a celeb, not because I. have a poor work ethic and suck at. promoting myself, it's because I could. never be pictured on camera snap. Like. don't these people think of how it's. going to look cuz they're being. photographed and filmed all the time? Yes, especially when your problem is. people think you're a bully. Yeah. >> Yeah, right. >> And a bully of like lesser empowered. men. Mhm. Right? So, what does she do?

That's not the way it's supposed to be. I [laughter] don't know what she said, but that's that's my own dialogue. superimposed over her. Um I don't I. think she meant to appear like here's me. and all my glory. I'm back. I've put. this terrible thing behind me. Mhm. >> And it's just not going to be that easy. I mean, I just don't think the American. public is that forgiving. I think. they're very angry at her. Um I don't even know what this case is. about. Really? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Well, what about you? You're in. the biz. Yeah. Mhm, not anymore. You got You got pushed out. But um I think I saw her giving like uh.

an interview on the Vogue livestream. where she claimed she was shy. Oh god. Which seems I feel like yeah, people can. sense that she's disingenuous, but I think she'll continue to have a. career cuz she's people ultimately, even. though we have mixed feelings about. divas, they end up prospering. >> Mhm. Diva is one thing. Mariah Carey is. a diva. I think J. Lo is a diva. >> have to be talented to be a diva. Sometimes uh.

>> But they're bullies. That's different. Bully Mariah is not a bully. And J. Lo is not reportedly that much of. a bully, is she? >> like Mariah Carey might. Is she? I don't. know. Okay. I'm not going to I'm not. going to slander her. I don't know. I. don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. Um Well, anyway, but what Blake Lively's. known for now is being a bully. Yeah. People don't like. They really don't. like that. It's not relatable. Like. every character she plays, you're going. to be like, who did she torture on that. set? >> [laughter]. >> You know, somebody with lesser power.

So, I don't like her chances. The optics. aren't great. Yeah. They're not, but I. feel like she's in so deep, she has no. other choice than to dig her heels in. And like own her reputation. >> Mhm. Oh, interesting. Mhm. I don't think. she's aware of what the reputation is. I. think she's going to go out there and. continue playing the fake Me Too card. Uh-huh. Last year, at the time 100, she. got up there and gave this big speech. about her how her mother was allegedly a. sexual assault victim. Wow. And it was. like, okay, this feels inappropriate cuz. it's your mom's story, but okay. And it.

was clearly an attempt to like glom on, you know, like. That's That's basically the same thing. as it happening to me. See, I get it. Yeah, they get it by association. >> Yeah, so she like that's That's a year. after she'd filed the lawsuit. Well, not. a year, but it was a months after, and. she'd been taking a beating already in. the press, and she still hadn't learned. this isn't going well. So, I just don't. think she's I don't think she's that. bright. If I was her, I would say cuz. the Baldoni movie was about domestic. abuse, It Ends With Us. I would say that.

I was so deep in character that I got. confused, that I was so in having. inhabited the role Oh, I like that. >> that I thought he was abusing me because. I just I can go to that place with her. I mean, I just I would like to watch her. try to spin it at a minimum. That's what. I would That's what I would try to do. >> All right. By the way, why is there no. fallout for Parker Posey who was equally. in that one clip with the with. the Nordic journalist? Do you ever Do. you know that Do you know that. >> Yes. Wait, we have it. Look, I'm going. to show you her. Well, actresses have. bad days.

>> Law. Yeah. Uh this is from 2016. It was. when they were promoting the Woody Allen. film Cafe Society, and this is one of. the things that brought such bad vibes. toward Blake's just so nasty to this. sweet Um I think she's a Swedish. journalist, someplace up there, Sweden, Norway. Um. And she is not pregnant, but Blake. Lively, what you can't see in this clip, but was known, Blake Lively was 8 months. pregnant in this clip. So, she did what. most journalists will do when there's. something very prominent about your. guest, and you make a passing reference. to it just to get it out of the way for.

the audience, and move on, and watch. what happened. First of all, congrats on your little. bump. Congrats on your little bump. >> [laughter]. >> What about my bump? You've got two nice ones. Are these. They are kind of bumps, aren't. [laughter] they? No, not bumps. The. lovely lady lumps. Check it out. Thank. you. Thank you. Did you like the movie? Are you Woody Allen fan? [snorts]. >> I love most of his movies and this one. was so like visually amazing. Yeah, it's.

gorgeous. Did you guys love wearing. those kind of clothes that you Yeah. Yeah. And you know, working in digital. >> to talk about the clothes, but I wonder. if they would ask the men about the. clothes. I would. I love Jesse's suit and his. hat. That's what I'm saying. His His. wardrobe was beautiful. Corey's wardrobe. was gorgeous. Those high-waisted pants. He's so great. I wish men wore. high-waisted pants like that still. Me, too. Or even the father with his. with his his tank top and Oh, it's so. good. >> Yeah, it's not just the women that that.

have [clears throat] the clothes. I feel. like the women get the conversation, but. it's like Yeah. Okay. Parker innocent. Yeah. She's being. diplomatic and correct. She's trying to. kind of save face. What year is this? It. looks like it's from 2000. >> 60s, but it didn't What happened was. Kjersti, however you pronounce it, she. did the her company, her whatever she. works for in Norway, they did put it out. at the time. Uh-huh. And um. then when she saw.

It Ends With Us and some of like the. back and forth around her, like the buzz. around Blake. she's like, "I'm re-releasing that. clip." Mhm. And she actually said at the. time, "I'm leaving this business. It's a. disgusting business. I hate it. I hate. the people in it. Like I'm just sick of. this BS." And she had had trouble. getting pregnant. So, she really didn't. appreciate the unlike your baby bump, you know? So, she left the business. because an actress was a huge to. her and No, I think it was just like one. of the many straws, you know? Like I. can't stand these people. Yeah. I mean,

you've had to deal with these people, like. >> [laughter]. >> I'm. not a great fan of journalists either. and they've been they've treated me. worse than actresses, to be honest. Present company accepted. Except for. you, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I I feel like the. press is the worst, but Hollywood's not. much better. And speaking of which, you. we were laughing that since I last saw. you, you technically got canceled. because you you committed the same sin. as Tucker Carlson. And he's coming on tomorrow. I've got. all the canceled people because of Nick. Fuentes on the show this week. Because.

you had the temerity to interview him. Thursday's Tucker's coming on. Yeah. So, and people were very, very angry cuz. you're not allowed to like him because. he's got this. very cuz he's unlikeable racist strain. when it comes to blacks and Jews and. women and so on, racist, bigoted, whatever you want to call it. But he's. got this other strain that is. interesting. And so, you but you're not allowed to. say that. You can't even acknowledge it. and you definitely can't interview it. Dasha, didn't anybody tell you that? Well, I saw it Yeah, I saw Tucker say.

that he regrets it and I actually also. regret Tucker interviewing him because. [laughter] we had Fuentes on a month. before and it wasn't no one cared. I. wasn't in trouble at all and then when. Tucker had him on I'm just kidding that. but he's but the cat that's when the. cascade of like denouncing started. And then somebody went back and dug up. your. >> person was especially Yeah, upset. That. person was me. >> [laughter]. >> Uh no, in the Hollywood Reporter, there.

was that one guy who like had been. waging this crusade against me. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Um I get it. I get. why he's like a no-no person. Why like the liberal establishment. wouldn't want you to talk to him. I. don't. I think it's totally. hypocritical. When I was reading the. remarks that Tucker made in his New York. Times interview where he talks about how. he regretted having Fuentes on. and to me it was kind of like sour. grapes, even though I agreed with like. other parts of the interview um because.

he says that the reason he regrets it is. because it was a distraction from these. other bigger issues. The problems that. are facing us are primarily economic, not like demographic in nature. And I. think he regrets it because, you know, let's face it, Nick Fuentes is much more. popular among younger people. He really. owned Tucker. He'll own anybody. And he. it's his moment now. He's ascendant. But. I don't find anything controversial. about even his most controversial. remarks because they're very clearly. meant as a half joke, and it's.

irrelevant whether he believes them or. not. And I think that the liberal media. is totally like complicit in it because. they are fascinated by him, much like. they were fascinated by Donald Trump. And they want to keep him in the news. because it feeds clicks. And they always. talk describe as far right, which I'm. like, yeah, I'm not sure that's right, but I understand what they're doing. >> can inflate it. They also Yeah, they But. before we had him on our show, there. were two articles. um in the New York Times about him. One.

was about like gripers in the MAGA. movement, which isn't really like. the the nuances of how he even feels. about Trump are kind of irrelevant. They. just really needed someone. Yeah. He's. black-pilled. He's not red, and he's not. blue. No, my I mean, my issue with him. and the reason that I was um. had concerns about having him on our. show was that I felt that um. he was kind of um an impediment to the. the health and future of the MAGA.

movement. And was brought in or brought. himself in. I don't think he's even like. a controlled or owned by anyone. I think. it is organic momentum, contrary to what. his haters say. Um but, you know, he's a. talented broadcaster, and I liked him. personally, but um my concern was always. that he was brought into or he brought. himself into like kind of subvert. or take the piss out of that um. movement which ended up kind of doing it. to themselves a little bit. But. >> movement?

>> Yeah, but it's like the same thing, you. know, it's the same thing as with Trump. with like Trump derangement syndrome. where the media loves these guys. They. feed off of them and then of course they. act all like um. shocked and outraged when someone else. who's not on their team entertains them. or interviews them. And you know, the by the end of that um. New York Times interview the um reporter. was like positively haranguing Tucker. about Fuentes. >> She was She was very focused on the. Fuentes issue. Yeah. Tucker definitely. regrets it. I think it's because it just.

blew up so much in his face and he it. wasn't worth it for him. You know, I I. think he sort of thought he might be. able to. reach Fuentes in a way that might be. helpful for the conservative movement. I. think that's what Tucker thought and. that didn't happen and it the bomb blew. up in his face and he was like And I. called him a total stray. >> Yeah, yeah. He's like, "This wasn't. worth [laughter] it." But I actually did. I I had my team pull this together. This. isn't because of you and defending. Fuentes at all. I just wanted I always.

say when we talk about him cuz I do feel. the need to accurately represent him. He. There's no question he's a very talented. broadcaster and he's predicted a lot of. things happening in the political sphere. correctly. But there's also no question. that he says things that are extremely. racist, anti-Semitic, and. misogynistic. Absolutely. >> Literally. So, I actually just to show. the audience cuz I constantly make this. reference and I don't actually put up. Here's just some of what I'm talking. about here in slot 17. And we're already.

a non-white country. Get a grip. Get. real, bro. This is already We already. live in Mogadishu. We already live in. Islamabad. Have you been outside LA, Chicago, New. York? We live in hell. And that's. just what And you know, it's what it is. Cuz everybody tells me you can't keep. saying the N-word on the show. They're. like, you can't You got to stop saying. >> [laughter]. >> You got to stop saying N-word.

I'm like, but it's so funny. Saying free. Palestine. Bro, free America. One of. these third world going to say. that? Because when I see 50 million. illegal and Apologies for the. slur. See, I can say that one cuz I'm. Mexican. It's not all You don't just get. called a Mexican white nationalist. You. also get to be racist against Mexicans. We're all in favor of a. fat race mixer who's married to a jeep. who named his son Vivek. That's a reference to JD and Usha there.

at the end. Yeah, that is It is. shocking. Shocking, yeah. Yeah. Are you. being facetious? I genuinely do find. that shocking. No, no, I get It's. extreme, certainly. But it's, you know, in the Like for people who watch his. show, it's all in the context of like a. stream. Explain this to me cuz I can't. see a world in which any of that is not. offensive. Like I I I mean, it's meant. to be offensive, yeah. I mean, but I. think he's also like revolting against. um the environment of like decorum and.

politesse and like these arbitrary like. moral pieties that were put in place by. the Democrats, the liberals. And yet in his like enclosed space of. his show with his audience, he's. obviously um. totally offensive and no holds barred. But kind of the most offensive thing. about him is that um once his reputation. started to get rehabilitated, he. started walking back a lot of these. remarks. >> Did he? Yeah, like now he's He likes to. go on a stream or wherever and claiming.

that he's not racist or he has no hate. in his heart. Did he used to say, "I'm. racist"? Well, I mean, I would I believe him because. we've all said crazy outrageous things. on our shows for like. >> Yes, but there's what we say, which is. politically incorrect and doesn't like. necessarily kowtow to the woke left, and. then there's the N-word over and over. and that J-word for Indians and you. know, take take your pick. Like I. and I I can even give you the point that. like it's strange how much energy we've. put behind in particular the N-word.

We've empowered that word well beyond. what we should because it's just we've. given it too much power to hurt black. Americans. You know what I mean? It's. like I wish we could we would disempower. that word. But we haven't. And so to hear like that like. a white man cannot be the one to. to disempower that word. That has to be. done. if at all by black Americans. And it's. just like why do it? Why be that. provocative? Cuz he's also saying, you. know, he's talking about blacks in the. inner city in a way that groups them all. and you know, he he's got racial.

stereotypes, he's got female. stereotypes. I mean, all the things that. would lead any rational person to think. you are racist, you're sexist, and. you're definitely anti-Semitic. He's a. racist guy. He's a He's He's offensive. Yeah. I can't I wouldn't argue with. that. Yeah. So that's so interesting to. me. So but you just don't care but you. like you you still just want to talk to. him. >> [laughter]. >> I mean, at the time he was doing all he. was going on a whole podcast circuit. He. you know, Yeah, it seems I felt that the. Overton window had shifted in terms of.

like he didn't say things like that on. our show. You know, he didn't say things. like that on Tucker. Yes. Well, You. know, the things he says in the confines. of his stream, it's his stream. I think. this guy was probably so. >> it. so debunked and deplatformed that he. felt comfortable doing that because he. probably felt there was no way back and. you know, now that he's Ben Shapiro. throttled him in the crib. Yes, Ben. Shapiro did throttle him in the crib. crib. That's that's true. And he was. canceled and put on the no fly list for. some reason when he was very very young.

I mean, that'll have a way of. radicalizing people. Um but I had my team pull this. yesterday. I don't know if you guys I. didn't even tell you I might use it. today, but. Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes interviewed. the grand wizard of the KKK in his hat. >> [laughter]. >> In his little outfit with his pointy. hat. >> Uh-huh. So it actually is. a time-honored tradition amongst those. who do interviews for a living to talk. to the most controversial people in the. world. >> Why wouldn't you? The difference is Mike.

Wallace grilled him, you know, and like. >> Sure. held him I mean, we pushed back. I. thought we talked about I you know, I. said I don't think the the jewelry is as. like. cohesive you know, obviously there's. left-wing Jews and right-wing Jews and. they have different interests and you. know, we pushed back on him, but we. don't take this like. hysterical tone. Look, there it is. There it is. And the SPLC financed that. And yeah, exactly. >> [laughter]. >> Exactly. Look at that. >> paid for that hat. And everybody from.

Noam Chomsky to Glenn Greenwald, all. these like you know, Glenn had him on. The thing is it used to be the norm that. um. liberal Jewish uh. pundits and journalists defended freedom. of speech and said you know, you can. talk to anyone. That was the always the. idea. >> Mhm. Um so now now you have like I think you. know, Tucker Carl Carl Carl'd it Carl'd. it childish and morally repulsive and it. is because you have this like double. standard, this hypocritical thing in.

place where you can't talk to these. people under any circumstances, but yet. the liberal media wants to um. talk about them constantly, yeah. But. wait, but Or you can talk to them, but. only if yeah, you have this like. scolding hysteria. >> Yes. Well, that's why I don't want to. interview him because I'm I have no. interest in doing the you know, playing him that sound bite Yeah. and. having him explain all like I just I. have no appetite for it whatsoever and I. don't think I could do an interview with. him without raising all the stuff he. says. It's like. >> Well, did you see Piers Morgan? Yes, I. thought it was pointless. I love Piers,

but I thought it was pointless. It makes. look stupid. I don't know how he didn't. Yeah. Well, it's like then if if all these. things are deal breakers for you, as. they are for me, then don't interview. him. Then don't platform him, don't. promote him. You know, everybody feels. differently about it, but I I have to be. honest, I care about like sexism if it's in the. extreme. Like. I interview a lot of people come on the. show who are sexist. I have to be. honest, I'm not going to name them, but. who I know have views of, you know, the. modern American woman that I do not. share at all. It doesn't bother me. Like I don't care,

and I don't feel the need to make to. bring it up every time they're on and. make those the stakes of the discussion. I don't know, I find them kind of. interesting. But then when I think about like would a. black journalist ever want Nick Fuentes. gaining purchase in the mainstream or a. black listener or viewer want that guy. getting purchase in the mainstream when. you you know, he's. he's saying that word over and over? Like he doesn't demonize all blacks from. what I understand on his show.

I don't think he has like deep hate in. his heart. I think he's. >> the Jews though? Well, you know, I was thinking about the. Jews. He says some of his best friends. are Jewish. I don't know. I don't I have to be. honest, I feel like on this guy I'm I've. got one hand tied behind my back because. I don't watch Nick Fuentes. I just know. what others tell me. And Victor Davis. Hanson was the one who first told me. that he uses the N-word all the time, so. I had my team go back and check, and. sure enough. he does. Not just that. Yeah, he he. does. And that and I feel like.

he has upper limited himself by doing. that, you know? And. you know, he like karma comes for. everyone. He's going to have to pay for. that down the line. I'm sure he's aware. of that. Um. you know, we caught a lot of flak for. having him on because people felt that. we had soft-balled him, and I don't. think that we did that at all. We did in. fact push back on him, but like it would. have been a totally different and less. effective interview if we had come in. hot, you know, scolding and accusing. >> You would have gotten nothing from him.

>> Yeah. Yeah, he would have clammed right. up. Well, that's actually Tucker's own. defense for his interview of Ted Cruz. He says the reason he was very tough on. Ted Cruz and not Nick Fuentes is because. he was basically called an anti-Semite. by Ted Cruz 7 minutes in and didn't. really get things off on a good note. Yeah. >> Um well, I understand. You guys do. something different on your show. You're. not confrontational. It does seem like. you'll talk to anybody and your whole. thing to me, now having known you guys. for a while, seems to be non-judgment. You're just kind of like well I mean we.

passed I mean Yeah. You've got opinions. Yeah. But you're not I wouldn't describe. you as judgmental of really anybody. You're just kind of like We're. judgmentally non-judgmental. >> [laughter]. >> And I am a free speech absolutist. Yeah. And I. you know, think Nick is interesting. >> Mhm. Yes, right. That's your sin. Yeah. That's why that's what got you canceled. in Hollywood. Like so your agency dumped. you? Mhm. Mhm. Does that mean no more work ever? Like. nobody. >> [laughter]. >> Um I don't know. I think uh we'll see.

Maybe you'll maybe you'll self-produce. uh your next project. Uh I I think. that's what Blake Lively's going to have. to do. Maybe Mel Gibson could. >> [laughter]. >> get in touch with me. I know he's had. some trouble. >> Yes. I mean, the whole institutional. landscape is changing so rapidly and um. yeah, there's a crisis of faith in every. institution. Nobody really like believes. in Hollywood anymore except for like. little indie. films. >> bad. It's true. You see that with the Met.

Gala, too, by the way, when people, you. know, are debating the theme and whether. people executed it faithfully. It's. like, well, the Met Gala hasn't been an. A-list event for. at least a decade now. It's a D-list. event now. Yeah. I know, it's. embarrassing. There's a reason Meryl. Streep is like, it's a no. >> No, yeah. Again. Sure. Um okay, let's. stand by. When we come back, we're going. to do the JP Morgan update, which is. crazy. Now this guy's back. [clears throat]. He's filed He's refiled his lawsuit and. he's submitted not one but two. affidavits from third parties allegedly.

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that she made his life a living hell. while he was at JP Morgan. He that she. sexually harassed him, threatened him, held his bonus over his head in order to. make him. give her oral sex and have sex with her. in order to make him allow her to. perform oral sex on him while he. allegedly cried the whole time. >> Crying. He claims she roofied him? Yeah. >> How do you have sex with a roofie? >> Well, she gave him both and Viagra. Also.

Viagra. Did they I I don't think that's how it. works. I agree. [laughter]. I agree. I think this is one of the. problems of his claims. I think roofied. means roofied. Yeah. Right? I don't. think like So what? Like he was passed. out You When you're roofied, you can't. lift your arms and legs. Your appendages. can't move. Right. >> So just the the Viagra goes just right. to that one appendage. Just like the one. is at attention? Yeah. And she's having. fun with it while he's completely passed. out? I don't think so. >> That's That doesn't seem right. >> No, it's not possible. >> um heartwarming feel-good story, though.

>> Why? Well, after all the um. friction and chaos of the last uh few. news cycles, it's nice to have something that's like. purely a meme back in the news. And it's. also funny because it's like um. actually like an epic media battle. between our last two remaining papers of. record, which are like the Daily Mail. and the New York Post. The Daily Mail. broke the story and then the New York. Post debunked it. >> Yes. Mhm. And they're like really. feuding over this crap. And it's also.

obviously a reverse me too. >> Yeah. It's a reverse me too. And it's. got it all. >> Yeah. So two things now. It has come out. that he [snorts]. pretended his dad was dead to get. bereavement leave from JP Morgan. But. the dad is alive and well and spoke to. the New York Post this weekend. Uh-huh. Okay, so we must point out this man, in. addition to the allegations of the. complaint which make this clear, has got. some serious credibility problems. There.

he is with his parents. His dad, this is. I guess recent, but his dad is. definitely alive. Mhm. Notwithstanding. what he told JP Morgan, which is that. he's dead and he needed bereavement. leave. And I guess his defense to this. is, well, I needed to write my. complaint. I needed time to work on my. complaint, and I couldn't say that. So, I said my dad is dead. Which, why don't. you just do it in your spare time? That's what evenings and weekends are. for. >> know. Right? So, he probably wasn't very. good at his job. >> No, and this is like so immigrant kid. filling out college admissions essay. where you're like, this is my sad.

immigrant story, and also my mom has. cancer. It's just like Nick Fuentes totally. vindicated about his with his screeds on. immigration because it's like. >> [laughter]. >> different honor codes. Though, to their. their credit, when they interviewed the. dad, he said, "My son, he's a good boy, great kid.". >> Mhm. Well, what's he going to say? Yeah. They don't throw their own family. members under the bus. >> Yeah. Except to say their dad. >> [laughter]. >> It's fine. That's what I'm here for. Um okay, but notwithstanding that very. bad piece of PR for this plaintiff, it.

it emerges as he refiles his complaint, which was withdrawn for quote. corrections, that he's got alleged. witnesses to Lorna's supposed bad. behavior. Um and I'll go through a couple of them. They are anonymous as far as we know, but they have details and quotes and. described describe alleged encounters. between this guy, Chirayath Rana, and. Lorna over the relevant time frame.

Okay, in his new filing, one alleged. witness, who appears to be a family. friend of his, says he was staying at an. apartment while visiting New York City. and was woken up. This is the witness. By Hedgenie's antics in the middle of. the night. The other anonymous affirmation, seemingly from the owner of the. apartment where the family friend was. staying, right? So, you've got one of. his friends, and you've got somebody who. owns the apartment in which. >> And she's there. Okay. Uh claims that he saw Hedgenie. kissing Rana's neck on the street.

sometime during summer of 2024. Now, that doesn't show harassment, if it's. true. It shows maybe they had an a. relationship of some sort. And then says in September 2024, she, the owner of the apartment, overheard. them entering the apartment building. recalling Hajdini saying something that. sounded like, "I OWN YOU, BROWNIE.". >> [laughter]. >> THIS IS A THEME. All of the dialogue. that he has in his complaint to me reads. exactly like what a very nerdy Indian. guy who never had any social life or. girlfriend would imagine it would sound.

like if somebody were harassing him or. if people were leaving him voicemails. like, "Okay, brown boy." It's a total. fantasy. of female desire, but also like with the. cultural with the racial psychosexual. element. >> I mean, like he he wants it to be true. that she's like uh threatening to Runa's. life and like stomping on his balls in. her stilettos or whatever. Like even. when the original story broke and I was. reading some of the dialogue and you.

know, she was like fondling her breasts. and referring to them as cannons. >> Cannons. No woman or how like assertive. or high-tier or high-powered like. working in a man's world ever would use. that word. >> No, ever. >> Ever. >> That is fan fiction. It just doesn't. make any sense because like women all. want to feel small and submissive in the. context of like a sexual scenario. >> the small percentage of women out there. who probably who might have like, you. know, dominant sexual proclivities, they still. don't talk like that. >> No. And and I also take issue with the.

notion that she forced oral sex on him. and he cried the whole time? That [laughter] did not happen. I don't. believe one word of that. But okay, I. digress. It's not for me because I'm not. the jury. Um [snorts]. Okay, so back to the legal filing. The witness who said he was a family. friend and came for a visit in this. apartment with. Sharaya Runa. This is dad. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> Who knows? Says uh it was September.

13th, 2024 or thereabouts. This guy. attended a concert held at the Barclays. Center in Brooklyn with his brother. During the concert, my brother and I. walked around to different parts of the. venue. At one point, I spotted redacted. sitting with a group. I think they mean. the guy. I was apparently one or two. seating sections away from him at the. time. I observed a woman sitting next to. him. Yeah, it's it's the two of them. The woman was very handsy, gals, with uh. this woman putting her hands on his lap, back, legs, and and lap again. In.

addition, she put her face very close to. and to his, I guess, and appeared to be. speaking into his ear. He sat facing forward. He did not look. comfortable with the situation. Because. I did not know the woman, uh I did not. stop by to say hello. Then later, this. is the same witness, September of 2024, same same month. I was visiting New York. I stayed at his. apartment. When visiting New York, I. sometimes stay there. Um. Okay, let's see. On that night, I had. plans. uh to go out for drinks together. However, when it became late,

I went to sleep on the couch in the. living room. In the middle of the night, I was awoken by the sound of a woman who. was clearly intoxicated Mhm. and. speaking very loudly. I should have you read this. You're the. actress. >> [laughter]. >> Shortly after, uh redacted entered the. apartment with the woman. He's talking. about these two. He asked the woman to be to please be. quiet, but she loudly refused and said. she would not be quiet. He later told me. that the woman was Lorna Hodjini, a. woman with whom he worked.

He and Mrs. Hodjini, Ms. Hodjini, went. into the bedroom, and I attempted to go. back to sleep. A short while later, I. was awoken by Ms. Hodjini, who was. completely naked. Naked, I say. Ms. Hodjini [snorts] sat on the couch. and lit a cigarette. Mhm. It's possible. I can [laughter] see it. Yeah, I mean, I. can see it. >> see it. Yeah. She then asked me to come. into the bedroom with her. This is the. third-party witness. And join them. I told her no. She again. said, "Come join. Come join.".

I again told her no. She then said, "You know, I own. what's-his-name. Mhm. So, you'd better. come join.". I continued to say no. Eventually, Ms. Hegedus got up from the couch and went. back into the bedroom and closed the. door. Through the door, short distance. away, I could hear arguing and I could. hear him loudly pleading with her to. stop, to leave. And I heard him say, "No, no, no, you have to leave. I'm not. going to do this. Please, stop.". She's already naked and he's saying all. this, okay. It became quiet. Then,

sometime later, sometime later, she came. out of the bedroom, left the apartment a. few moments after that, he came out of. the apartment in a state of shock and. embarrassment. He then told me about how. she constantly harassed him and had. forced him into engage in sexual. behavior with her on a number of. occasions. He told me she had frequently. said things to him like, "I'm in charge. of you and I will get what I need from. you. And if you don't comply, there will. be trouble. at the OK Corral.". >> [laughter]. >> He told me that this had been a big. problem going on in his life for some. time. In later conversations, he.

reiterated his concern that she was. blackmailing him, forcing him to engage. in sexual acts, and also. to provide help with her career, and. that she constantly threatened to harm. his career if he did not. Although he. was not comfortable explaining the. specifics of his experiences with her, I. recall him telling me. she had shown him naked pictures of. herself. He also told me, on the night. in September when I was staying there, she had sexually assaulted him in the. bedroom. That's basically it. I don't believe one. word of it. Um, that's the allegation.

Not one, right? >> what any man, let alone a man who's. involved in a lawsuit. to not. shoot down the opportunity to like. Eiffel [snorts] Tower a naked woman with. his buddy? I doubt it. >> Wait, what's the Eiffel Tower? >> When when she beckoned him into the. bedroom. It's she's a missus. Yeah. Is it. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's a. >> does an. >> Tower mean a threesome? It's a style of. uh Sorry I said that. [laughter] I'm so. bad. >> Because of the way an Eiffel Tower is. shaped. >> Oh. And Sort of get it. I could draw it.

for you. We don't need to We'll talk. later. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, it seems totally fake, but I I. just I guess my question is like. what what's the purpose? And did he. really think he could get away with. this? I guess maybe he thought she would just. Maybe they did have some Though I doubt. that also honestly that they had any. some kind of relationship that she would. be so ashamed that she would sort of. want it settled and.

>> She would just pay. And JP Morgan would. pay. Yeah. >> Who Who do you think the wit- the this. person is? Because if this, you know, if. he's making this up, he has now two. witnesses who are willing to lie under. oath. Uh-huh. Mhm. Or maybe he's making them up, too. He's like their family friends, cousins. >> Clan-ish. Clan-ish tribe, yeah. >> His His girlfriend in Canada? Yeah. And. I I'm thinking that they probably did. have an affair. You know, usual like. kind of like uh Eric Swalwell and his. former staff or Yeah, because he had to. have had some leverage. I doubt he made.

this up entirely out of whole cloth, but. who knows? Who knows? >> My thinking is because all of the. details are so kind of um fantastic and. humiliating. and with the the wishful the wishful. fantasy of this dominant woman. >> Yep. it's possible that he could just be. lying whole cloth because he has a. humiliation fetish. Like even to admit. any of this already would be so. humiliating, but maybe that's the goal.

>> Here's what I want to know. If any of. this is true, why didn't he provide the. evidence of it to JP Morgan when they. investigated it? >> Well, that's Nothing. They say he. provided nothing. She She gave full. cooperation, that she gave her cell. phone over, she gave all of her email. records, she gave everything saying this. is a lie, and he gave nothing Mhm. and. was conveniently unavailable to deal. with them. Okay, so it's fake and. >> Yeah. Maybe he's just a maybe it's just. the humiliation kings. And he's just. after after chasing that. He also, it. has come out, went on one of those legal.

websites 10 months before this. >> I saw those. You know, like it wasn't. legal advice, but it was one of those. type of, you know, what where and he. plugged in all these details that kind. of dovetail this lawsuit except he. described his harasser as a he and a man. and said he was with um Morgan Stanley, not JP Morgan Chase. >> Okay. Okay. Yeah. Now, it's possible. I could argue that one both ways. He had details that did that didn't. jive. Like, is your harasser this Lorna. or is it he? Mhm. Did this happen to you.

at JP Morgan Chase or at Morgan Stanley? He's worked at like multiple banks over. the past 10 years, which is also sketchy. Yeah. in my opinion. And um but I could also argue it that. maybe this helps his credibility because. he went on a legal website and was. looking for legal advice on what to do. with alleged harassment he was. undergoing. Mhm. Or maybe he knew in advance that he. would be playing the long game. >> suit. Yeah. But did the legal website. not advise him to report the evidence to.

>> I don't know. >> interesting. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. So, who knows all these. >> I guess. all these months later. Okay, then secondly, in the time we have left, there's a second witness. I've lived in a one-bedroom apartment. here. This guy sometimes visits my. apartment with a family friend. Um at some point, I had conversations. with him. He mentioned an issue he was. having with a woman at work who was. harassing him and trying to blackmail. him. He was not comfortable telling me. details, but kept saying this woman was. making his life hell. I told him I. wanted to see what this person looked.

like and he showed me a profile picture. I believe it was Lorna. Uh around dusk, I was leaving my. apartment one day, I saw her standing. across the street at the intersection. Oh, no, not her. Him. This guy. He. appeared to be waiting for the light to. change to cross toward my apartment. He. was with a woman. I recognized her to be. Miss Hutchins. While they stood there, this woman was. standing very close to him. She had her. face in his neck and appeared to be. kissing his neck. I also saw her grab. his She grabbed his rear end. His head. was turned [laughter] away from the. woman as if to avoid the interaction. He. did not appear interested in the woman. I did not see him reciprocate in any.

way. Again, this just sounds like. >> at him. Yeah, why would a girl like that. go for a guy like him? >> And she's very good-looking. >> attractive. And provided the cell phone. That's what. a truth teller does. Maybe this guy will prove us all wrong. and he will be. >> That would be interesting. >> produce some. >> It would be hilarious. >> Right? Some silver bullet proof. >> Yeah, she's so cute. >> I know, she's adorable and she's. currently getting her reputation ruined. by this guy. Because he tried to go. anonymous, but he used her name at every.

turn. Right. >> And where is his fish head wife in all. of this? There's so many [laughter] apartments. That's right. That's a good question. Where is the wife? If she's at the. apartment soliciting his friends for. threesomes, like where is the wife? That. is a very good question. He had to cheat. on his wife. What's going on? This is a. very relevant question. Thank you for. asking that because that has not been. cleared up. I think you may have just. cracked the case. That may be the the. key detail that does it. Well, we'll. continue to follow the saga because we.

want to know what happens. Uh so far, I think this is complete. and I'm entirely on her side. Open-minded to being proven wrong, however. Okay, um we are back tomorrow. with How about this for a turn? Supreme. Court Justice Neil Gorsuch. >> [laughter]. >> We're looking forward to that and much, much more. We'll see [music] you then.