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Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly Show. Happy Monday on. another very busy news day. Some. incredible sports stories over the. weekend. They even made their way into. my lane, so you know they were big. From. UFC Fight Night at the White House to. the New York Knicks winning the NBA. Championship. It's unbelievable. It's. like it's been almost Well, it's been. over 50 years, incredibly. But we begin. today with an exclusive here on the MK. Show. Uh and that is some breaking news and an. exclusive document to reveal in the.

Justin Baldoni Blake Lively saga. As we. reported Friday, Judge Lewis Lyman. granting Blake Lively's request for. attorneys' fees on the defamation claim. that was filed by Justin Baldoni against. her. She sued him for sexual harassment. He counterclaimed for defamation. And. she got that counterclaim dismissed. before virtually all of her claims were. dismissed. And under this weird.

California law, that entitles her. potentially to attorneys' fees. All. right, that sounded like a like a. victory, right? But remember that. Baldoni's and and the judge said, yes, you can have the the fees to Blake. Lively. But. Baldoni's defamation claim was only. active for less than five months. So. that's just a small part of the 18. months of high-priced litigation between. the parties. Justin Baldoni on the other. hand got himself a major win on Friday.

when Judge Lyman denied Blake Lively's. request for punitive damages against. him. Damages meant to punish him um or. for a a tripling of damages that she. also argued she was an entitle entitled. to when it comes to her her actual. sustained damages. So she had a a couple. of other categories of damages that she. wanted him to pay her outside of her. attorneys' fees, and this judge said, it's a no. Now, as we've been reporting, Blake. Lively's. request, all of those requests for.

attorney's fees and these other damages. was rooted in this California Civil Code. 47.1, which is a law passed to protect victims. of sexual harassment from being deterred. to go public with their stories. thanks to. a powerful defendant who sues them for. defamation. It's basically like. you work for a man, you're going to. claim sexual harassment by said man, the law is trying to discourage said man. from trying to bully you out of filing.

that litigation with a defamation case. against you. I mean, the whole thinking. behind this provision, and we spoke with. the woman who dreamed it up and. architected it, was to protect less. powerful women from more powerful men, or you could reverse the genders. depending on the situation, but the less. powerful from the more powerful, who use. defamation in an effort to silence and. make the whole process impossible. You tell me, who's more powerful, who's. richer, who's better connected between.

Justin Baldoni, whose name you probably. never heard of, unless you watched what. was it, Jane the Virgin, and Blake Lively, married to Ryan Reynolds, and at that. time best friends with Taylor Swift. Okay, so she misused this entire thing, but that's where we were. Okay, this was never meant to protect. multi-millionaire movie stars like Blake. Lively, but she saw an opportunity. We. heard that from the architect of the law. herself, who came on this program and. said, Blake's people came to her, the.

architect, and said, she wants to be the. face of it. She wants to partner with. you to take your law national, and she's. going to show the world how she's an. advocate for Me Too victims nationwide. And this woman said, stay the hell away. from me and my law. It's actually working out okay for some. plaintiff or some some women here in. California, and I've gotten it passed in. a couple of other states and I don't. want your help. You'll only draw. negative attention to it. No one sees. you as a Me Too victim. And she said, "I didn't want her to Met.

Gala my law.". I totally got it. Now, Lively's 47.1 motion, the motion for all. these fees and costs, was the the only. part of the case that was not part of. the settlement the two sides reached. last month. Okay? So, this is the one piece she said, "I'm not. settling this." In other words, "Justin, I'll still be coming after you for. attorney's fees." And it's safe to say. that Blake Lively thought she would. prevail. Here is her attorney, Michael Gottlieb,

the day after the settlement was. announced, appearing on Matt Belloni's. podcast. >> So, let me tell you why our client is. happy, ecstatic with this settlement. The reason that our client is happy with. this settlement is because it gives her. the power and the opportunity to pursue. what we believe is her most potent and. powerful claim in a way that is. efficient, in a way that is final, in a. way that the defendants have no appeal.

rights over, and in a way that cuts off. uh most of the noise that would be. surrounding this case and lets us get. straight to the core issue of how the. defendants retaliated against her, specifically the retaliatory lawsuit. that they filed that called her a liar, that branded her a liar. It's not one of. these statutes where there's discretion. for awarding the damages once the. conditions are met. And we believe the. conditions have essentially already been. met. And now they're going to be held. liable for compensatory damages tripled,

punitive damages, and attorney's fees. when we establish the elements of this. 47.1. >> Well, that's not exactly what happened, is it? They got their attorney's fees, but they didn't get the huge pot of. money they thought they were going to. get when they got punitive damages meant. to punish and her compensatory damages, meaning the actual damages she could. prove to a court she suffered as a. result of his counterclaim times three.

That's what treble means. The judge said. it's a no. And now it appears from the statements. that her team has issued over the past. couple of days that she thinks she can. still have another bite at the apple in. getting those other damages that this. judge just denied. So, a bit of breaking news there and an. exclusive reaction from Justin Baldoni's. attorney. [music] He happens to be my. own as well. His name is Bryan Freedman.

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have a little hand-holding as you go. through this. crazy process? Paid for by SuperSure Insurance Agency. LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Brian, welcome back. So, she says. [music]. it's not over for her. She's still going. after Justin. Her attorney's fees are. not enough. She wants damages to punish. him. And I guess she thinks she's got. some actual damages she can prove that. will be troubled or tripled if she can. just resurrect this claim under 47.1,

the statute of California law that I. just explained. Your reaction? >> I, you know, my reaction is um. that we don't believe that's accurate at. all. And um part of the reason I think. that there's confusion. is because um. you hear all these different things from. all these different people and um. and and really, you know, it's from from. day one it's been about the receipt. So, I I thought what would be really. important is to release the settlement.

agreement, um which is not confidential, um which is not subject to any kind of. order, um which restricts the public. from seeing it. And I think that will. provide some clarity for for people to. be able to take a look at the settlement. agreement and see exactly. um what it says, which is that Judge. Lyman will have the right to rule. um and only the right to rule on this. particular motion.

Um one of the reasons that that that. Justin felt it important to to also not. resolve that motion as part of the. settlement agreement was was to give. you know, Judge Lyman the right to do. what he felt was appropriate under that. If he felt it was appropriate to award. damages, um then he would have done so. If he. felt it was appropriate to award. punitive damages, he would have done so. If he felt it was appropriate to award.

treble damages, he would have done so. He didn't do any of those things. Those. all of those things were were were not. awarded. What was awarded was attorney's. fees. And we respect Judge Lyman's decision. with that with with that particular. ruling. Um and and so it's it's you know, the. the settlement agreement really provides. that both sides didn't want any type of. appeal from that. Both sides wanted to.

respect 47.1. whether it's constitutional or not. And. both sides wanted resolution. Um and that was not something chosen by. one side or the other. It's been enough time. People should be able to move on. There. should be a result here. It should be. done. handled and people should move on with. their lives. And Justin would certainly. like that opportunity along with the. other individual defendants. They felt.

like, you know, they've gotten um they. were they were, you know, dismissed from. the case as part of the summary judgment. um ruling. They just would like to move. on. with their lives at this point. And um. and if the judge is going to award. attorney's fees, which it looks like he. will, that number will be determined. Um. we believe that that's um in the statute. pretty clear that that's attorney's fees. to defend the defamation cause of action.

um. >> Only. >> Yes, and and only a like Lively's, not. other. um plaintiffs. Not other, you know, defendants in those. cases. >> Okay, so. so to be clear, you are releasing the. settlement agreement between Blake. Lively and Justin Baldoni. You've. released it to us. and people can go right now to. megankelly.com to read it themselves. This is an exclusive for the show for.

now and uh you should check it out there. right now. Um if you can, we've posted it as we. came to air. And what I see in this agreement, Brian, is that she the both parties agreed that. any and all proceedings relating to her. pending 47.1 motion will be heard before. Judge Lyman. So she's not going to be. able to resurrect her claim here for. punitive damages or triple damages in. front of any court or any judge besides.

Judge Lyman. Do you agree with that? >> Yes, and as a matter of fact and just. like um that the other. uh parties in the case won't be able to. resurrect the ruling that she's entitled. to her attorney's fees. It's a you know, the parties wanted finality. And and there's no forum in which she. can then take this based on the. settlement agreement and say, I want to. redo. um any of these. uh provisions of like punitive damages,

like treble damages, like compensatory. damages. The only issue left is for. Judge Lyman to rule on what's the amount. of the attorney's fees under 47.1. pursuant to the limited cause of action. of the defamation claim. >> Okay, so but let me ask you this. So she. can't file this claim, she can't try to. resurrect the punitives and treble. damages claim elsewhere. If she's going. to try to do that, she would have to do. it in front of Judge Lyman, but your.

point is she can't do it in front of. Judge Lyman either because he issued. this ruling on Friday. and it did seem to make a distinction. between attorney's fees on the one hand. and all these other damages she wants. And he seemed, Brian, you tell me, he seemed in his ruling on Friday to be. saying, "You can't recover all those other. damages you want under the federal rule. of procedure that you've. raised here. Like the federal rule of. civil procedure 54 only gives you a.

right to attorney's fees, madam." But he. seems to be saying, "If you want under. this California statute to recover all. these other damages you're talking to me. about, the triple of the compensatory, the punitive damages to punish, all that stuff requires a jury trial. trial, Blake." He seems to be saying, "Justin Baldoni would have all sorts of. rights to make sure any such exorbitant. award would have been run through the. proper legal process, which he he. specifically references like the Seventh.

Amendment. and jury trials and like a a full. hearing on all this, none of which she. ever asked for, which she appears now to have waived and. settled the case finally. So, you tell. me whether I mean, honestly, whether. there is a legitimate avenue. remaining for her to try to punish him. more with these damages.". >> I I think what Judge Lyman was ruling on. was he was saying, "Look, there were. other ways this could have been done.".

Um that you could have, you know, first. of all, you could have gone to trial, but another way this could have been. done is by filing some type of. cross-claim. to try to recover these things, which. would have afforded the you know, Justin. Baldoni and others. >> Mhm. >> to to, you know, the right to a jury. trial, the right to put on a defense in. the case pursuant to, you know, the. Constitution. And and that that was not chosen. That. that was not the path that was chosen.

And as a result of that, there is no. ability then to recover. punitive damages, treble damages, or. compensatory damages. The only recovery. that's allowable at this point is. attorney's fees based on the defamation. cause of action uh defamation claim. >> Yeah, that Justin filed against her that. he dismissed months prior to dismissing. almost the entirety of her case as well,

which is why she ultimately settled it. because there was only a small little. acorn left in her corner to hurl at. Justin, and it was going to be extremely. painful to go to trial and have to get. cross-examined on the truth that she. that you guys had on your side. just to pursue that one acorn. Now, as I. look at the settlement agreement, and. you know, we've just got it. The one thing that stands out to me, in. addition to her waving all claims. against Justin and any appeals as well, there's no. there's no dollar figure in here, Brian.

There's not a single penny. I mean, normally when you have a. plaintiff like this with a lawsuit that. was supposed to be this massive with. these big claims, "He sexually harassed. me. Then he turned around. He retaliated. against me. He tried to ruin my. reputation." All the stuff she's been. saying a couple weeks earlier, she was. demanding $400 million in damages. Not one red cent was paid by Justin or. any of the defendants. to to settle this $400 million she.

claimed she was entitled to. >> I I think that's a fair reading of the. agreement, um certainly. And and but but. you know, the truth is, you know, I'm not here and. Justin's not here, and neither of the. other parties in the case are here to. start pounding our chests and saying how. great this is and how wrong they are and. how right they are. What we're here to. do is to move on. To allow people. finality, to allow them to have peace,

to allow Justin to have time, you know, with his family, unmitigated time where. his mind is elsewhere, to allow him to. continue moving on with his career, to. allow all the other individual. defendants that were dismissed in the. summary judgment, you know, motion to. move on and and and live their lives. And and frankly and honestly, the same. for for Ms. Lively. To allow her the. dignity to move on with her life and put.

this all behind everyone and and. frankly, I you know, I don't know if if. people are getting tired of it. Um I. imagine that they are. And um and and. it's time to move on. And it's time to. learn from it all. And um and I'm sure people would have. made other choices had they had they. considered uh. this in hindsight. But the the the truth. is, you know, when you settle, you. should settle. Wish the other party the best and move. on. And you're correct about the fact.

that there's no dollar figure that. exchanged um exchanged uh in in either. direction in this document. >> She walked away from the whole thing on. the eve of trial because she did not. want to sit across from you, Brian. Friedman, and have you cross-examine. her. Having been in that exact spot, I. don't recommend it. Although, it's not true. Actually, you. and I got along really well. That's when. we became fast friends. But it would. have gone differently for her.

>> Um you know what? Um I I think that that. that the parties got to the point where. it said, "What are we fighting over. at this point?". Um. let's reach a result. Let's reach a. settlement. Let's move on. Let's, you know, let's live our lives. and and not. >> But she says here, her lawyer says. though, Brian, you heard him in that in. that clip with Matt, he says this that. her most potent and powerful claim. is this bid for a fee for fees, etc. And.

that the retaliation, now he says, was. Justin's cross-claim for defamation. Like the just get real honest here. The. That's not what she claimed was the. retaliation in her case, was it? The I. read the claim. It's been a while, but. the retaliation seemed to have been all. those other allegations she made about. how mean Justin was after she accused. him and his business partners of.

sexually harassing her. And like a a. nasty press campaign that she could. never prove he orchestrated. >> I you know, there were a lot of. positions taken in the case at various. times during the case. Sometimes it was. a case about sexual harassment. When the summary judgment motion was um. you know, granted, it became a case. about the smear campaign. It it it it. was a moving target throughout. But not. withstanding any of that, I think.

everyone would agree that moving on and. allowing people to live their lives. and do better and be better. is the way to go. >> I don't think she would agree with that. And that's that's why her lawyer's out. there saying they're going to try to get. every last cent from Justin. I mean, they clearly want to make him suffer. They're not happy that they had to. settle. This is my own gleaning. They're. not happy they had to settle. They knew.

that it was the best move for Blake. rather than have her subjected to. cross-examination and tatters, you know, her reputation already in tatters, it. would be even more so. But they're pissed. That's how I read. this. And here's more from her lawyer. You You are. You certainly sound like you're ready to. move on and sound like your normal, sane, classy self. I got a different vibe listening to him. Uh here he is again back with Matt. Belloni on um his. his podcast The Town uh sought for.

>> So, what are you hoping to get here? Give me a best-case scenario dollar. amount that you could collect and from. who? >> So, I I want to step back from that. because. this lawsuit has never been principally. about money for our client. It has been. about accountability. It has been about. shining a light on this underground. smear machine that retaliated against. her for raising claims of sexual. harassment and retaliation and has. harmed so many other people. And what.

you've seen since Blake stood up and. brought this lawsuit is evidence coming. out in our case that has led to to. information being used now in other. litigations. Uh the Nicholas case, um. the Amanda Ghost case, this underground. smear machine has been exposed and. people are now on notice uh that if they. see a you know, if you see a a Matt. Belloni sucks.net website pop up, you're. going to maybe have an idea of who might. have put that website up.

>> What's your reaction to that, Brian? >> You know, my reaction to that is is that. what you're hearing is clearly. disappointment on his part. Um and it's disappointment that that he. didn't get the numbers. um that that he hoped to get in this. case. He didn't get the result that they. hoped to get in this case. And and you. know, clearly when you bring a case. um and and you hope to prevail on that. case, if you have the evidence to show.

that you're right, you go to trial. And so it was really easy. for us to to to end up in a trial. All. All. Blake Lively needed to do was to say, "No, I'm not settling. Let's go to trial. and a jury of our peers, and let's see. what we can get." If it was so good, why do you settle a case exchanging no. money? It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't.

pass the smell test. But again, right? That puts us back into the he said, she. said fight here, fight there. And I. think the settlement agreement speaks. for itself. Um you you don't spend 30, 40, 50, 60. million dollars. and walk away. um without. um. you know, without a dollar thing. >> A dime. Yeah, without a dime. He paid nothing.

whatsoever. What about the attorney's. fees? Do you have any idea, Brian, how much those are likely to clock in. at? And is there a component of. reasonableness that's going to be. required in making that calculation? >> Well, the attorney's fees are limited by. the statute to, first of all, they the. attorney's fees that were spent on Blake. Lively defending. um a cause of action, and that's the. defamation cause of action. So, that's. one cause of action. Um it's also one.

um defendant, which was Blake Lively. So, it's not you're not talking about. something that would be, you know, involving a number of defendants or a. number of causes of action. Also, we. have to recall that that's during a time. period that what was filed was a motion. to dismiss. There wasn't any discovery. I mean, I believe there were somewhere. in the neighborhood of 30, 40, maybe. more depositions in the case. There were. no depositions taken at that time. So,

there there wasn't a significant amount. of work that was done at that period of. time. So, we believe that that those. should be a pretty reasonable, um, relatively nominal amount uh, given. what was actually happening during that. period of time. Um, so so we're you. know, we're not necessarily concerned. about that. But but but the truth is. this, right? We you know, Justin has. always supported women.

Um, will always continue to do so. And you know, part of the reason that he. agreed to have that 47.1 heard and and. not dismissed it is because he wanted. the right result, whatever that right. result was. To respect that statute, to. respect to he agreed to not have. appellate rights, to respect that. statute, to respect Judge Lyman's. opinion of that statute. But he wanted. finality. He wanted this to be done.

and over with. And and it look, you've. heard from the. you've heard from the the person who the. statute was written by and and frankly. on behalf of and and you heard what her. feeling was about this. And and she had very strong feelings. about what the purpose of the statute. was and who [clears throat] the statute. was supposed to protect and why. And without re-litigating or. re-re-hashing that point of view, I think this is a very different case.

when you look at the power dynamic and. you look at the. the the actual. um, funds, access to power, access to. people, um, and careers of of you know, who. we're dealing with here. It doesn't feel. like the typical case where you have. someone who's made an allegation of. sexual harassment or sexual assault. Um. and and you all of the sudden have you.

you know somebody overwhelming somebody. with um a lawsuit that um that that uh. tends to. um scare them and force them into giving. them the inability to protect. themselves. It's not the typical case. It's not what it was meant for. Victoria. Burt, who wrote this um statute, said. that herself. >> Right. Right here on the show. Um is this something that would be.

covered by insurance? The the attorney's. fees, Brian? >> Um I I I don't know the answer to that. question whether it would be covered by. insurance or not. Um you know, likely, you know, there there if. I mean we we went through during this. case, we went through a fire. Right, a terrible fire in Pacific. Palisades. >> You were on the air here while your home. was was burning. That was awful. >> Yeah, I I I was and I feel terrible for. the other people in in in you know, in.

the in the areas that they were going. through the same thing and and lots of. families that that suffered. I really. think, you know, a lot of people. suffered, but you know, we're still. going through it with attorney. with insurance companies now. So, whether something's covered by insurance. is an awfully interesting question not. just in the world of this type of case, but also in the world of of you know, of. people who suffer, you know, their their. homes and losing their homes and smoke. damage and. >> Yeah, it's one thing to have insurance,

it's another to actually receive the. payments. that are supposed to be your benefit. Um. how how. how did Justin react, Brian, when he. found out she wanted to settle this. thing as opposed to go to trial? >> Um. >> I I think that Justin has always wanted. to be able to be heard. Um, and and he's always wanted to be. able to speak. And and to be able to share what he. experienced, what what, you know, what.

he felt, what his family went through. Um, how he does support women and how he. feels about um, women and and how he. feels about protecting them and the laws. and all of that. Um, so I I. you you know, I think he was, you know, disappointed. that he didn't have the forum of of a. trial. um, in which to be able to be heard. But, you know, Megan, as you know better.

than anyone, like a trial is hardly. um, the forum in which you get to be. able to tell your story in the way that. you want to. It's a very regulated. process where certain things come in, certain things don't come in. And I'm. really, you know, it's kind of enough. about me. I'm I'm I'm tired of me, frankly. And and it should really be. about Justin and Jamie and and Jennifer. Able and and Melissa Nathan and Steve. Sarowitz and and hearing from them.

That's who I want to hear from. >> These are all the people she accused of. in engaging in the alleged smear. campaign against her as opposed to Blake. just suffering the consequences of being. an unlikeable person in her many. interviews. Yes, I see your point that. those people also suffered and they also. want this over. And I'm sure they want their reputations. back, which I think were there. I mean, that the. for better or worse, filing that. defamation claim did change the whole. narrative around this, even if it's.

going to cost attorney's fees now, it. changed the whole narrative around this. whole claim. And that's when Justin. really told the world he wasn't going to. take this lying down. He wasn't just. going to roll into the fetal position. and say, "Go ahead and beat me. I did it. all. I'm sorry.". >> I I I just want you to take take you. back. It was Christmas time. There were 8-10 hours given by The New. York Times. to respond. There was a, you know, a complete um. what I'll call hit piece that came out.

that was untruthful. We were scurrying. to find, first of all, lawyers that. weren't away for Christmas, but really. to find the truth and and we found, you. know, emojis that were removed. We found. text messages that said, you know, "Meet. me in the trailer. I'm pumping." Right? That were directly opposed to some of. the allegations. We We found that, you. know, that they were talking about. circumcision because she was pregnant. Like all of these things that were.

different than what you were reading. And and really felt it important to try. to get those, what the kids call. receipts, out there to try to tell the. truth and be transparent. And this, hopefully, will be the final. transparency, but we're putting that. settlement agreement out for everyone to. see so they can take a look at it. They. can see what exchanged hands or actually. what didn't exchange hands, and we want. to continue with that transparency and. honesty with respect to showing the.

people what actually happened. >> You can go see it right now at. megynkelly.com for yourselves. How. What's going to happen now with Justin? Because I haven't seen him in a. in an acting project since this whole. thing came out. Is he going to renew his. career? How does he feel about doing. that? Where's his head on that? >> You You know, my belief is that he will. renew his career. Um I I don't know.

exactly. I I think that from day to day, you you you know, probably he has. different thoughts, but I'm I'm sure he. will try and and and renew his career. I. think that um he's, you know, a a super. meaningful, super caring person. And. more than anything, right? If you could. tell anything in this case, all you had. to do was read his text messages and his. emails. And and, you know, and you can see what. kind of person.

>> he is. And that's why we were never. afraid. to just have the truth come out, to have. the documents come out. And um and and I. think he'll he'll go on to great things. in life. Um and I'm really looking. forward to that for him. I'm looking. forward to his healing. I'm looking. forward to Emily and his children's, you. know, futures. And um. and and I can just say honestly, it's. been an absolute honor to represent. someone of that character.

>> I know you don't say that about. everyone. Just for the record, Brian's. also represented Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo. Okay, never mind. He doesn't say that. about everyone. Not everyone's personal. emails reflect well on them, but they. have in this case. You've produced them. even while he was being bullied by her. into the basement at his movie premiere. His his messaging, and you gave it all. to us. You gave us the voice memos, you. gave us the emails. That also is on. megankelly.com and you can hear it for. yourselves,

was of someone who is very sweet trying. to navigate a really difficult. situation. And al- always saying nice. things about Blake. Like trying to. maintain people's positive opinions of. her. Uh she just made it impossible. Um. I last question. There are over 1,400. entries on the docket in this case. Some. of the filings are over 100 pages long, Brian. Is this thing finally over? >> Um. I think uh.

I I think it's finally over. I'm hoping. it's finally over with respect to. allowing Blake to move on, allowing. Justin and the other parties to move on. There's still some collateral matters um. involved in this that that have to be. resolved, but but the crux of the case. and the crux of the issues, I think. people are going to be able to move on. And and hopefully people will wish the. best for each other and come to that.

place that says, "You know what? Enough. is enough. We can agree to disagree.". Um I feel I'm right, you feel you're. right. Um and everyone. through transparency and authenticity. has been able to make their own. decisions. And from the beginning where. we had nothing in our favor, we had no. one in our favor to today where I. believe that the great great majority of. people see who Justin Baldoni is,

um it's really changed significantly and. I'm really happy for him. >> And see who Blake Lively is, too. Brian, thank you. Thanks so much. All. the best to you and to Justin, too, and. the rest of the defendants uh. who were well represented and this is a. great result for them. Let's hope the. judge keep these attorneys' fees. relatively low and does not engage in. any nonsense about trouble damages and. punitives. Uh so again, go to. megankelly.com right now if you would. like to read exclusively the settlement.

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god. What What was she thinking? Here to break it all down for us is. Glenn Greenwald. He's host of System. Update on Substack and the first Megan. Kelly Show guest ever, the official. godfather of the MK Show. Glenn, welcome. back. >> Thank you. One of my proudest titles, if. not the proudest, in my career. >> [laughter]. >> Okay, so what a day to have you. We just. got lucky. We didn't know that there was. going to be a settlement inked with Iran. today, but actually that's the news.

hitting just as we come to air, which is. the following, new from the New York. Times, Trump and. J.D. Vance both have electronically. signed the framework agreement with. Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf, Ghalibaf, one. of the leaders of Iran's war effort. So, we've signed a deal. and we don't exactly know what the deal. is, but. um. we're getting some hints. So, the New. York Times had a long interview with.

Donald Trump and he said that it will. ultimately assure that the Strait of. Hormuz is permanently toll-free. It appears the Iranians are already. disputing that, suggesting. not permanently, maybe for a. 2 months, but they're not necessarily. giving up their right to charge tolls. Um. let's see. Then then saying that we will. deal with the nuclear agreements later. We're going to start talking about that.

after. So, it's kind of like let's. cease-fire now. Let's reopen the strait. We'll remove our blockade. And as for. your not enriching any more uranium. or at least not enriching it to the. point where we don't like it, above. whatever it is, 3.47 or 3.67%. Um we'll deal with that later. And as. for the so-called nuclear dust, like the previously enriched uranium. that we were told. was obliterated by our strikes last. June,

we'll deal with that later, too. But there's going to be some nuclear. agreement. to be negotiated that's going to. severely restrict Iran. This is what we believe, and in response. uh or in you know, as a result of all. this, if we do it, then um we are going. to allegedly provide full sanctions. relief and access to $25 billion in. frozen funds of the Iranians. Um that. again is per the New York Times. Now,

just to add to it, the Iranians came. out, CBS News reporting this, their Iran. the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which. is in charge now. It added more color. It says immediate. and permanent cessation of the war on. all fronts, including in Lebanon. No more battling between Israel and. Hezbollah in Lebanon. A US commitment not to interfere in. Iran's internal affairs. Again, not. confirmed by. Trump. This is via CBS citing the. Iranian side. Full lifting of the naval blockade, US. commitment to withdraw forces from the.

region around Iran, not sure what that. means. Reopening of the strait within 30. days under Iranian arrangements, don't. know what that last qualifier means. Suspension of sanctions on the sale of. Iranian oil, petrochemical products, and. derivatives, and full Iranian access to. revenues. So that's going to be very. lucrative to the Iranians. US and its allies required to present. reconstruction plans for Iran worth at. least $300 billion. We believe that. because J.D. Vance seemed to confirm it.

if they meet certain conditions on the. news this morning. 60 days of. negotiations to reach a final agreement. on nuclear issues, as I just mentioned, so that one's kind kind punted to be to. be negotiated, and the complete lifting. of primary and secondary US sanctions. against Iran. Now, that would be a big. number, and. like that's. if if we really do lift all sanctions. for them and reconstruct Iran and make. $25 billion.

available in frozen funds, too. I don't. know whether that's in the sanction. relief or not. Maybe they won't charge in the Strait of. Hormuz. Maybe we're just going to make. them so rich that they're going to be. like, "Who cares about the strait?". Uh and then there's uh yeah. US commits not to increase its forces in. the region during this time. Uh Iran. will reaffirm its commitment under the. nuclear nonproliferation treaty not to. produce nuclear weapons. And then they. add as a separate deal part, separate. and apart from the complete lifting of. primary and secondary US sanctions, the.

release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian. funds um during the 60-. day period. They get like half, and then and then half later. So, that's where we are now. Critics. um who are Democrats are saying, "It's a. worse deal deal than Obama's JCPOA.". Critics who are Republicans are the. neocons, like Mark Levin, who seems to be in a. tailspin this morning. rage tweeting every 5 minutes about he.

needs to see the deal points and why are. we bashing Netanyahu cuz Trump is and. he's he deserves a kind word and what he. basically what is this is his. point of view. Like, I'm happy it's. ending. That's my take on this. I wish. it had never started. I don't know that. this is better than where we were when. we were actually negotiating with Iran. before we started this war, but. whatever. Let's get it get it done is my. current feeling. Now, back to you. >> Yeah, there's so much.

there, which is why it kind of shocks me. both in general, but right now to say. that I do think the one point Marcoobian. made that is valid is that since the. deal has been signed and it's not the. final deal. It's a memorandum of. understanding to stop the war for 60. days in order to get a final deal, but. everyone understands that if you stop a. war of this magnitude for 60 days, you're stopping the war. You wouldn't do. it otherwise. If the deal is already signed as J.D. Vance and Donald Trump both have. confirmed that it is, we we ought to see.

the terms of the deal. The reality is. that we know essentially what's in the. deal not only the Iranians have. disclosed it and not only because. members of Congress and certain. reporters have seen it, but also because. if what Iran was saying about this deal. were just fabricated or completely. false, you would of course expect the. Trump White House to be saying that it's. false and they're not doing that. In. fact, as you said, J.D. Vance is. confirming it. So what we do have is the. outline basically of a deal and we can. talk about the deal and we absolutely. should. I think what we are going to see.

end up happening. and it's extremely ironic given that it. was kind of a central promise of the. Trump 2016 campaign and the Trump first. term to claim that the JCPOA was the. worst deal ever negotiated, that we had. to immediately withdraw from it because. it was such a threat to American. national security. That was the Israeli. view, but from the American perspective, that that deal, I'm not saying it was. perfect, but it certainly worked to keep. Iran from doing things like enriching. past 3.67%. They only started enriching at 60% after.

Trump withdrew from the deal. And what. we're going to have is a deal that's. similar to that, though probably without. as many of the intrusive safeguards that. that original deal had, on top of which. Iran has been unbelievably emboldened. and strengthened by the fact that they. stood down the world's most powerful. military and none of the stated goals. that the United States government. insisted it was intending to fulfill at. the start of the war. Not all of them, but none of them has really been. fulfilled. Iran's government is. obviously still very much in place.

Their ballistic missile system has been. somewhat degraded, but they could easily. replace it. Their drone capacity is very. high. They still have that enriched. uranium buried under the soil. They. still have the right to enrich. They're. still able to fund what are called. proxies in the region. I mean, none of. the stated goals of the Israelis and the. Americans at the start of the war I said. the war was about have been fulfilled. And on top of that, not only are those. aims unfulfilled, but Iran will be much. better off by now being reintegrated. back into the world economy, able to. sell sell their oil on the global.

market, above and away from sanctions, have their funds that we froze unfrozen. so that they have availability to them. I'm thrilled this war is over. I don't. think the war should have ever started, but the Israelis understand and all of. them are saying with a lot of rage and. resentment that this was basically, if. you don't want to say Iran won the war, certainly they didn't lose the war and. they're coming out as strong if not. stronger than when the war began, which. is quite a remarkable observation given. that the United States is the most.

powerful military in the world. >> Yeah, not to mention that they've. realized they have this other nuclear. bomb, which is the Strait of Hormuz, and. their ability to control it, which is. like brand new, was not the case. beforehand, but. I and you know, my own feeling in. watching this whole thing cuz clearly. President Trump wanted that strait back. open. He wanted oil to continue to flow. or to resume its flow through the. strait. And I think that's important and. a good idea. Um but my first takeaway after that was. we better make damn sure somehow.

that there are ways around the Strait of. Hormuz. Like immediately, that should be. our number one. job right now. is to open up the oil flow not using the. strait so that we remove this important. tool from the Iranians' deck of cards, right? Because otherwise they're going. to hold it over our heads forever. And. we're just going to have to keep going. back over there. In fact, Trump. reportedly said something to the New. York Times along the lines of we'll go. over there. if we have to and we'll like be the.

policeman, we'll be the guardian. Here's. how the Times reported it that Trump. insisted if Iran failed to reach a final. nuclear accord with us, a process his. aides say they expect will begin this. Friday in Switzerland, that Trump would. restart military attacks on Tehran, quote, or make the US the guardian of. the Middle East in return in return for. 20% of the region's revenues. Good God. No. No, thanks. No American voted for that. We don't.

want to be the guardian of the Middle. East at all. >> You know what, Making, this is to me. the kind of. overarching mystery and bizarre aspect. of what happened here is that it's not. like nobody had looked at a map before. this war began and figured out for the. first time that the Strait of Hormuz is. this critical passageway for the world. economy, not just for oil, but for. natural gas and a whole bunch of other. petrochemicals on which the world. economy depends. And there's basically, unless you want to move Iran, like.

actually physically move it from one. place to the to another, which we don't. have the ability to do. >> We One of the reasons why presidents. never went to war with Iran is because. of the immense leverage that they had. And by the way, the leverage is not just. being able to shut the the Strait of. Hormuz as as they've done for the last. several months, they can also destroy. with great ease and always will be able. to the entire energy infrastructure of. our Persian Gulf allies, meaning the. Arab dictatorships of Saudi Arabia and.

and and the Emirate. And they proved. that as well. And so, it's not just the. ability to choke off the Strait of. Hormuz, it's also the ability and they. only exercised a small portion of this. power to be able to just these these. little countries that we call the. Persian Gulf. uh. allies are are really not even. countries. They're tiny little gas. stations. They're filled with very few. people. They have we we have to protect. them and Iran is a real country, like a. big country, three times the size of. Iran of Iraq and they are able very.

easily to destroy that energy. infrastructure in a way that will cause. economic collapse. And the thing is. Megan, this is what I what you I think. we always have to come back to is. Donald Trump knew all this. He he he. said it all before. He's talked about it. all before. He's talked about the. reasons why these kinds of regime change. wars are so destructive. When was the. last one that ever ended well from the. perspective of the American people? You. you barely can think of one. I mean. maybe you can go back to like the last. century and find one, but recently these. wars have been nothing but disastrous.

Trump built his whole political identity. on this. The lots of people were telling. Trump this that this is what was going. to happen if he entered this war with. Netanyahu. He knew that and yet he did. it anyway. And I think he got into the. middle of it and now what you're seeing. is a kind of speech from an American. president about Israel and Netanyahu. that we haven't great heard and I think. the only reason is because Trump really. ended up with no alternative. He had to. get out of this war for the economy of. the United States, for the world economy. and his political interests as the.

midterms approach. >> Yes, because what Trump's now saying was. in our AM update this morning, but he's. basically like. Israel, I don't know what Netanyahu's. effing doing and apparently said to him, you don't know what you're effing doing. and. was very. >> You have no effing judgment. >> to engage in a bombing campaign against. Hezbollah in Lebanon. He claims that they struck first. Trump's response is what they hit you. with was an absolute nothing. No one got.

hurt. You're using that as a fig leaf in. order to launch your much larger and. more devastating attacks which will lead. to us never being able to end this. He's. finally lost his patience with. Netanyahu. Um I've got a. >> [music]. >> I've lost my time in the first hour of. the show. Here we go to break, we come. back with Glenn on the opposite side, so. much more to discuss. Don't leave. If you are heading into summer without a. medical emergency kit, you're taking a. risk most people don't even think about.

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Glenn Greenwald, host of System Update. [music] on Substack, is my guest today. My guest tomorrow will be J.D. Vance, the Vice President of the United States, and what a day to get him on the heels. of this Iran deal. He's got a new book. he's promoting all about his faith, which I'm very much looking forward to. discussing with him. So, that'll be a. fun show, and we also have He's the. second hour tomorrow. Wait until you. hear who is the first hour. Whoa. This. is going to be an interesting show. Don't forget to download tomorrow's. Um,

Glenn, welcome back. Uh, there's a lot. more to get to. We can go back to the. Iran deal as well, but I wanted to move. forward and talk a bit about what. happened at the White House yesterday. and then what happened in New York over. the weekend. They're sports stories, but. they made their way into my lane of news. stories, therefore they make it onto the. MK show. The UFC event at the White House. yesterday, and I don't watch UFC. I. don't like violence. I don't like. violent movies. I don't like I I really.

just don't like it. I don't like Full. Metal Jacket, The Green Mile, like. anything involving torture, or. I you can like break somebody's bone in. UFC. It's crazy. I respect them. Like. they're. very tough, but it's just not for me. However, it's very American, and it's. pretty cool, and I love that Trump did. it differently and had this event on the. White House lawn. That is totally. Trumpy. Like good for him. You know, it. wasn't so long ago we had on. the White House lawn showing their fake. boobs, naked, uh in in front of the.

people's home, which is disgusting. Now, as we go into last night, the big. question was, will the big event go off. or will it not? Because DC was. experiencing some bad weather. And the Weather Channel sends out the. most, I got to say, bizarre. forecast. I'm putting that in air. quotes. I I don't know what this was. Here it is. UFC Freedom 250 is facing a chaotic.

weather setup on the White House South. Lawn. Okay, so far it's fine. With a 60%. chance of thunderstorms, heavy. downpours, and wind gusts up to 34 mph. threatening to delay the outdoor fights. Here we go. On top of the storm risk, brutal DC humidity is driving a. triple-digit heat index alongside. massive swarms of mosquitoes and gnats. that fighters will have to battle inside. the cage. While the venue's massive. 92-ft overhang will keep the octagon.

dry, a single lightning strike within 8. miles will trigger an automatic. 30-minute freeze on the entire event. What? Have you ever heard a forecast. [laughter]. about the mosquitoes and the gnats? I. have to say, I do think there's an. agenda going on at the Weather Channel. >> Yeah, I mean, the picture they painted. is scarier than anything you can find in. the Old Testament when God gets like. exceptionally angry and destroys entire.

cities. And honestly, when I first read it, I. almost thought it must be satirical. Like there was kind of a level of irony. and that they knew that they were doing. because it's it you know, it starts off. already kind of dramatic in a way that. that surprises you and then the more it. goes, the more it just gets I mean, biblical is really the only term I can. think of, but like almost threatening. And it's and it's not even a generalized. warning for Washington residents. It's a. specific weather threat, like a. meteorological.

omen for this event that a lot of people. for whatever reasons have have a problem. with. I'm still hoping there was some. winking and nodding of of of satire in. in what they were doing, but we've seen. so many instances where supposedly just. like very neutral institutions become. outrageously political in the most. inappropriate ways that it really leaves. you wondering. >> Yes, the the rapid response account. which writes for the administration. responded, "This event is about.

celebrating America's unmatched. greatness after 250 years, which. apparently doesn't sit well with the. friendless loser who wrote this. clickbait headline.". >> [laughter]. >> "Rain or shine, we're celebrating our. great country no matter what. God bless. America.". And they were right because while there. was like a half an hour rain delay, the. fights did go off. A great time was held. by all, and I do have a lot of friends. who love UFC. And like their feedback on. this event was so positive. They loved.

the entire weekend. They had the. military flyovers, they had Zach Brown who refused to not. sing even though he came under all sorts. of the usual criticism. How dare you? How dare you? You know, at the at a. President Trump event he was like, "Stop. it. It's about America. I'm doing it.". Did not fold. the anthem. Like all of it was very. patriotic and yet if you've got the TDS, Glenn, you're not allowed to enjoy this. You. got to on it however you can. That.

the mosquitoes and the swarms of gnats. and the terrible Zach Brown who flouted. his duty as an American. Here was the. walkout. Trump and Dana White. walking from the Oval. uh under like well, the the covered part. of the White House and then out into the. so-called Octagon. That's where they. have the fights. It was. you know, no. no moment of theater or you know, presentation dramatics was spared which. is perfectly on brand for both men,

actually. >> Yeah, you know, I actually think that. these are the sorts of things where. liberals have done the greatest favor to. Trump by acting completely hysterical. and just seemingly being very petulant. and resentful and bitter and angry over. what at the end of the day are really. just kind of. inconsequential. cultural celebrations. I mean, inconsequential from the sense that. there's no political harm to them or. anything else like that and the ability.

to get liberals worked up over things. that in context, let's remember we're. still involved in this major very. dangerous war. There's all kinds of. economic harm and damages that Americans. are feeling. To get liberals focused on. this instead and have them whine and. complain about a kind of cultural. spectacle that isn't for everybody. I'm. not the target audience for it. I didn't. watch it, but I know that huge numbers. of Americans do and have every right to. be included in White House celebrations. and cultural celebrations as whatever.

you know the Obama administration like. to do in order to show how elevated and. and and you know kind of uplifting. Obama's intellect was. This is all part. of kind of like what makes America great. is the cultural diversity of it and it's. he's so good Trump is and and their team. at provoking liberals into drawing. attention away from what benefits them. politically and instead whining and. complaining about this sort of stuff. that they have just become their own. worst enemies. Why would you begrudge a.

celebration of this kind that obviously. tens of millions of Americans take a. kind of pride in and feel like they're. culturally represented in the way that. these kind of people haven't always. felt. And in a way it's kind of one of. the promises of the Trump administration. was to start including in our DC. politics, in our national life, a kind. of part of our country that's very. important that has represents a lot of. people but that has kind of been scorned. upon when it's not excluded and they. always fall right into the trap of. sounding like douchebags and elitist.

by saying this is a degradation. of the White House when it's things that. tens of millions of Americans. see as their culture and that they love. and and find entertainment in. >> They're still doing it. This morning I. made the mistake of putting on MSNBC for. a little while on Sirius XM you can. listen to it and I was like that word. kept coming up over and over. Even on. CNN I heard it too. Like they They they. think this was this was a degradation, that this was somehow a defilement of.

the White House grounds, the vaunted. White House grounds. It's like. Joe Biden had a out there showing. his fake naked boobs all over the White. House. And yes, they were forced to. condemn it after it happened because. there was a national outcry after like. how dare you do that. But I mean please, would you just stop stop spare me on you. know, your standards of taste because. there are none. We saw what your. standards of taste were. >> To say nothing of what American. presidents have been doing Yeah, to say.

nothing of what American presidents have. been doing in that White House forever. going back to JFK and the hordes of. women that he had and Bill Clinton. in the in the Oval Office. We're now going to pretend that unless. it's like highfalutin enough culture. somehow it degrades the the sanctity of. the White House that has seen all sorts. of things ever since it was constructed. because human beings occupy it. It's. it's just the kind of. artificial controversy that liberals. just can't help and I think the reason. why they love it is because they do get.

to feel kind of like elevated and. superior. It allows them to look down. upon the culture of the people with whom. they disagree with politically. Yeah, and it's just too tempting of a. psychological benefit for them to. resist. >> Watch this. This is this is from 2024 or. 2023? 24. Look at this. Okay, this is Trans. Day of Visibility at the White House. Joe Biden's right there. Shape Look, there's the naked boobs. That's a man. This is absurd that the anybody who.

supported this would have the nerve to. talk about the degradation of the White. House grounds. It the defilement. Um please, spare me your lectures. That. was disgusting. We've never really. recovered from it. Let's be honest. And. this is like a restoration of. masculinity. and what it actually is. So I I applaud. that as well. Like let Yeah, let's get. back to masculinity. While I'm on the. subject of masculinity and the trans. people.

>> [snorts]. >> I've got to spend one moment on Elliot. Page. who makes me so uncomfortable. Elliot. Page was a cute female and still is a. female. The name has changed. She was Ellen Page. and now she goes by Elliot and wants us. to believe she's a man which she's not. But, it's a very poor imitation. She. starred in Juno. And here she is, okay, fine, she's going to pretend she's a man. now. Not only is she pretending she's a man, she had a little lecture on how she. believes she's feeling a healthy.

masculinity, unlike the toxic masculinity, obviously, of all the people who support Donald. Trump or just vote Republican. Take a. listen to this stop 34. >> A healthy masculinity to me is or even. just something I've. felt as trans like transitioning is. like leaning away from whenever there is. some sort of impulse or expectation. you've put on yourself to like.

shut down or or conform in a way that. usually feels like this. Like I am. closing off. I remember kind of being like, oh. Elliot, maybe you should, you know, talk. with your hands a little less or. >> Mhm. >> Uh. you know, maybe in pictures you're cuz. every since transitioning, now I'm like, Johnny, I am smiling. I am smiling in. those photos. Whereas I used to be so I. I could barely look at a photo of. myself. I was always like, you know, and. now. and I'll be taking say a dude's like, hey, are you are you Victor from. Umbrella Academy, you know, and we're.

doing a photo together. He's very. >> Mhm. >> I'm very. Yeah. >> Uh-huh. >> And like having that moment where I'm. like, oh, should I also not? Like should. I also be closed off? >> like, what the Elliot? What are. you what are you talking about? Like, oh. honey, you're the part of the problem. >> Okay. So, it's now toxically male. to not. gesticulate, talk with your hands a lot, to not overshare, to be a dignified.

stoic man. That's. toxic. And Elliot will show all the rest. of you, Glenn, actual men, what it's. what it really means to be masculine. And it does not include closing off from. people. You can't If you close off, that's that's the bad masculinity. If. you. just regurgitate every feeling and. gesticulate with your hands while doing. it, Gavin Newsom style, you might say.

That's the good kind of masculinity, like Elliot lives. >> You know, there's there's so much here. actually that that as somebody who. became kind of part of and had my life. affected by what was called the gay and. lesbian equality movement, you know, starting in like the '80s and '90s when. I first became aware of it, coming of. age, to compare what it's become now, it's. not just a different movement or in a. different category. It's almost like the. exact antithesis in terms of what its. ethos is supposed to be. I I think I.

might have mentioned this to you once, I. don't know though. Uh in Brazil, there's. this uh. left-wing politician. She She was born a. man. Uh she's she's now identifies as a. trans woman. And they just made her the. leader in Congress of the commission on. women. And she's been a woman for like, I don't know, 13 seconds. And she goes. around lecturing everybody on what real. femininity is, even like to to to other. women who don't who lived their whole. lives as women, were born women. And the audacity of that is so it's so.

amazing to me. It's kind of like, you. know, these these these people who are. lifelong Republicans become Democrats. cuz they hate Trump and then start. immediately telling you what a real. Democrat is. But is it There's so many things that. has been bothering me about this new. iteration of like what is now called the. LGBT Q all those other acronyms. And one. of the things that bothers me the most. is that we actually made progress, I. think progress, in society where people. weren't as confined to gender roles. Like, to be a little girl didn't mean. you can't play sports. Or to be a boy. started to mean that it was fine to have.

an interest in art or fashion or. whatever. These we we kind of had like. women were allowed to be in the. workplace, men could have a kind of more. interest in in raising kids. These. things kind of became fine and. all so much of this discourse is so. regressive. I mean, listen to Elliot. Page saying, "This is how a woman is. A. woman behaves this way. A woman doesn't. gesticulate with hand gestures. Only men. do this." It's like they're imposing. these extremely rigid gender roles that. I thought we had moved past you know, past to the point that now if some you.

know, celebrity parent looks at their. 6-year-old who was born a girl but likes. sports, they immediately say, "Oh, you're not a girl. You're a boy. You. like sports." Or a boy says, "Oh, I. don't want to go play sports. I'm kind. of interested in these in in drawing.". Oh, that's a very feminine trait. It's. like such a regressive. form of looking at gender dressed up as. this very progressive and radical. movement and you and you see that so. manifest in the way that Elliot Page is. lecturing us about what it means to be a. man. And also, I have to say.

as somebody who does tend to have more. male friends and has always kind of had. a a I just I got general disposition to. being more around men than women. That. discourse everything I heard Elliot Page. say codes is very female to me, which is. so ironic. Like the way she's. introspected. >> like that. >> No men talk like that. No men I know. think that way or talk that way and here. she is saying, "I'm a man." And it. sounds like a woman in therapy like a. standard liberal woman in New York on. the Upper West Side like in therapy in.

ten like trying to understand her own. shyness or inhibitions or whatever. >> That is so true. Such a good point. She. doesn't sound at all like any man I. know. That's not how men talk. No men No. men talk like that. They Doug and I have. an an ongoing joke of. I'll just say to him like well, we're. sitting there on the couch and I'll say, "Do you want to talk about our. feelings?". And we both laugh cuz it's just. [laughter]. I'm not really that way either to be. honest and he's really not that way.

He's a Presbyterian from the mainline. So, yeah, yeah, it's a no. Um, and we. just joke about it. Like men are not. like, "Oh, with the hands and my. feelings, let's do this." And that's. Yeah, so she's she's got thoughts. Okay, I want to get back to. what happened last night because. we had the UFC event, again, much, much. better than where we were just a couple. short years ago. And yet it had to be counter-programmed. by the lunatic left, led by, of course, who else? Jane Fonda. Here's a little.

bit of how that sounded. Sat 28. >> This isn't the first time that. Americans' rights have have come under. attack. But this time. what is really different from the last. century, uh the attacks are coming from every. part of the government, the executive, the the legislative, and the Supreme. Court. There is There is a clear effort to. destroy our fundamental democratic. rights and dramatically retake our form.

of governance. I think the Un-American Activities. Committee right now is coming from the. White House. >> [sighs]. >> I got to give you one more. There's a couple, but I got to give you. one more. Let's check in on Bette Midler and what. happened when she got up there. Sat 30B. >> All you fascists [music] bound to lose, you're bound to lose, you fascists bound to lose. >> [music]. >> Hear.

there, all you fascists, let me put you. straight. When you come for the rest of. us, we'll fight you at the gate, and you. will lose, you fascists bound [music] to. lose. >> [laughter]. >> Maggie, can I tell you something about. that clip? I I'm like very traumatized right now. I. saw that clip online, and I just thought. that that was some like standard white. progressive lady who's like a Democrat, like where's. >> Oh. >> I didn't know that was Bette Midler.

until you just told me and it's very. Bette Midler used to be super cool. And. this is like she's now turned into like. Rachel Maddow's grandma and I just have. a couple points on this like. >> De Niro in a dress. >> Yeah, totally. And like I just want like. when like there was a time maybe like a. decade ago when I was getting invited, you know, when Citizen Four came out, the film that that was about my work. with Snowden won an Oscar, when I was. kind of like integrated into Hollywood. stuff. I'm sure the way you were when. you had your film out in other times as. well. And there was always this. perception that like Hollywood politics. is super radical left. It really isn't.

It's like very like establishment. Democrat. And you know, Jane Fonda who. used to have pretty radical politics in. the '60s like marching against the war. obviously going very controversially to. to North Vietnam. And all these people I. guess like as they just evolve they just. turn into really ordinary boring. Democrats. They're like Chuck Schumer. and Nancy Pelosi. And it's a very. superficial politics. And I'll just give. you a quick example like, okay, there's. Jane Fonda giving a speech about a. speech in defense of free speech. I do.

think free speech is under attack right. now. I always think free speech is under. attack as somebody who's made that a. primary cause of my life. Free speech was under attack at least as. much if not way more so during the Biden. administration when they had a. systematic campaign to bully and. threaten and pressure and coerce Big. Tech into censoring and banning. dissidents from their policies including. on COVID and Ukraine from the entire. internet. What Mark said was one of the. most full-frontal assaults on free. speech in decades. Do you think Bette. Midler and Jane Fonda and any of them.

are raising their voices against it? Of. course not because they've just become. very like boring staid partisans. They. don't have. fascism to them means Donald Trump. And. you get rid of fascism by electing. Kamala Harris. It's nothing more. interesting or or complex than that. >> Um by the way, Kamala Harris too. launched her campaign. One of her first. stops was on RuPaul's Drag Race show, where the week before they had some. walking down the runway with fake. boobs like in a in a bag in a clear.

cellophane bag dripping with blood. The. The display was his chest like missing. breasts with fake blood dripping down. That's the classiness of the Biden. administration that they wanted to. return us to to get us away from the. disgusting debauchery of the Trump. administration. It's a no. No, thank. you. Um I mentioned Robert De Niro, of. course he was there. Yeah. You got Bette. Midler, who is the female Robert De. Niro, the actual Robert De Niro was.

there. And we would be remiss if we. didn't check in with Julia Roberts, who. prior to the Kamala Harris campaign had. done a relatively good job of staying. apolitical. But like her pal George. Clooney, she just couldn't keep it under. wraps anymore. She got to her late 50s, Glenn, and she said, "Let's do this. thing." Here she is at this pathetic. little rally. Shot 29. >> Rene Nicole Good is not a symbol. She is an American woman,

a queer woman who is doing the very best. she could do to be good in an unjust. world. Yeah. And I am honored to celebrate her. life and her legacy tonight because the. life she gave is our responsibility to. carry. >> [applause]. >> Okay. Uh Remember when she did the ad for.

Kamala encouraging Trump voters, female. Trump voters to go into the voting booth. and disobey their husbands once they got. behind the curtain? That was her big. contribution. How'd that work out? This. is not going to work out any better. But. why? Why must it Why? Why can't Why. didn't she get the same memo that. Jennifer Lawrence got when who came out. and said, "I'm kind of done doing that. I I just want people to watch my art, and I'll express myself through my art, and they can take it or leave it.". >> Well, this is the thing, like.

historically, if you look at Western. artists and the idea of art in Western. culture, it always has been political, but not in this like direct, you know, go and vote for this candidate, or I'm. going to represent these very, you know, banal political ideas that everybody. else I I speak to and that it that is. near me also represents because I want. to be part of the crowd. Part of the. idea of art is to question taboos, to. test new ideas, to kind of poke at. orthodoxy. There is a politicized aspect.

to art, not always, but but often. Even, you know, going back to Renaissance art, I mean, a lot of that had political. themes to it. And these people have convinced. themselves because they refer to. themselves as artists, even though. they're just like good-looking studio. tools, that they too play a similar role. in society, even though they have. nothing of actual value or interest to. offer. And that's why I say what offends. me are not people who are in like the. creative world wanting to express ideas. that affect the world. Like I said, I. think that's a normal part of art.

What offends me about it is they're so. empty and vapid about it. It's pure just. Hollywood groupthink. They all repeat. what each other says. There's no bravery. to it, there's no courage to it, there's. no impact. And I think that's the reason. why. And one of the only thing good. thing that has come out of all of this. is they all do have to realize that they. have basically become inconsequential. because they did everything possible. Remember going back to that 2016 mega. cringe fight video that they did with. all those celebrities singing that fight. song about Hillary Clinton?

They've just gotten destroyed and. humiliated because no one pays attention. to them. I remember people really. thinking Taylor Swift's announcement and. endorsement or that Brat woman's. endorsement of Kamala was going to swing. the election. It didn't swing a single. vote because nobody cares. Not because. people don't care about what artists. think, but because these people aren't. artists. They're just banalities. They're just people craving public. attention and and and applause, and that. will never have any power. >> Truly, who cares what Julia Roberts.

thinks about politics? Now, Julia. Roberts is going to stand up in front of. some large group in New York and tell us. what it was like to act across from. Richard Gere in Pretty Woman, I'm. interested. Go on. What was that like? That you were great in that. That great. Let's do that. But no one wants to hear. me talk about what it's like to be an. actress and how one prepares for one's. roles, and no one wants to hear her talk. about politics or the news at all. We. saw her, she went on with Oprah during.

that fake tele- town hall, whatever she. did, that she charged the campaign a. million dollars for. In your life as a. journalist, I guarantee Glenn Greenwald. has never charged the interview subject. for the set Glenn had to set up in order. to go do the interview. That's not the. way it works. Only a grifter would do. such a thing. Um but at that farcical. event, Julia Roberts had thoughts there, too. Remember this? Watch. >> I want people to say, "Oh, you're.

American?". and not, "Oh, how's it going over there?" You know. >> Yes. So, I want to get back to that. space. >> Exactly. Ugh. Go ahead, Glenn. >> But but but but just that alone. Do you. Do you see what she's saying there? She's saying, "When I go to Paris and. I'm invited to these, you know, elite. royal uh dinners in Scandinavia, I want. the people next to me to feel like being.

an American is a good thing instead of. looking down their nose at me because. Donald Trump is the president. I want. them to see someone more European like. is this even in the same universe as. what most Americans think? And this is. what gets me about, you know, Julia. Roberts has been this huge Hollywood. star making gigantic sums of money for. decades. Obviously, that distorts her. perception, that removes her from. ordinary life. These people have no. understanding like no humility at all. that the way they speak, the concerns.

that they have are so radically. different from the people on whose. behalf they think they're speaking or. who they're influencing that it's like. this incredible mismatch. Even just. listening to her, it sound it she. doesn't speak like anybody that you. typically speak to. And I think this is. the breach that they're incapable of. recognizing. It's really bizarre to. watch. I mean, that is what she's saying. is she's like, "When I go to When I go. to Brussels, you know, I used to be. applauded when Obama was president. because people loved America and now in. Europe they think that we're gross and I.

want to get back to, you know, having. British and and European royalty look at. us again in a positive light." As though. that's even. anywhere near the list of of concerns of. of ordinary voters. >> Yes, like we're real working class. voters who can't pay their mortgage or. their grocery bills and she thought that. they'd be listening to her on how she. really wants people to admire her as an. American and to be universally beloved. and she doesn't like this like sort of. tone she hears in the elite circles.

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or enter Megan to to get 30% off your. first subscription order. That's a r m r. a.com/megan. So, I'm very happy that the Knicks won. I've lived in Manhattan. I've been. living in New York state for most of my. life, and I lived in Manhattan for 17. years. recently. And so, they never win. They. never win the championship. I I know. enough about sports to know the Knicks. always disappoint their fans in the end. And no one really thought that they were. going to pull it out, but then that one. guy was amazing. What's his name? He was.

so good. He was incredible. Um. Hold on. I Jalen Brunson. He was the. game. When they when the championship. was over, they put on the screen Jalen. Brunson points 35 or 45. Everyone else. 49. Like the entire rest of the team had. scored like one or two baskets more than. he did by himself. And he's only 6'2, which is kind of short by NBA standards. And going up against, you know, Wembanyama, who's 7'6, it was no problem.

for him. He was just a crusher. So, go Knicks. All right, but there's a couple of. things we got to discuss. We got to. discuss the absurd New York people who. rioted and burned school buses and. stabbed people and um. hurt 10 cops as a quote celebration. Just derelicts. I'm sorry. It. happens every time. Philly does it, too, cuz Doug likes the Eagles, so we see it. What's wrong with these people? But, let's table that now. Let's go up to a.

higher price point on the incomes and. discuss. Ben Stiller. and Hank Azaria. So, Ben Stiller was one of the ones who. you kept seeing in the front row, celebrity row there. It was like Timothy. Chalamet, Larry David, David Zaslav. >> Uh. Jerry Seinfeld, Zaslav is not a. celebrity. He's with like the more. owners crews, but whatever. Yeah, Jerry. Seinfeld, Taylor Swift was there on the. the miracle at MSG night.

And as I mentioned, Ben Stiller was. there. So, Ben Stiller was giving an. interview after the fact to those guys. who do the halftime show on like Shaq. and um Charles Barkley and so on. And. there was a bit of a reveal. on how the celebs get those floor seats. or like second row, whatever. Listen. here. >> where they are. >> Hey, Ben. You're not a fair-weather fan cuz we. Number one, thank you for the love you. show you show in our show. >> watching you guys forever. >> But, you like a real fan. Like a lot of.

these other freeloaders, they're just. showing up cuz the Knicks are doing. good. How long have you actually been a. season ticket holder? >> I I don't have a season ticket. I just. get I get the tickets. The celebrity they they give us the. tickets. >> Ben, stop lying. >> think I could afford the the Knicks. season ticket front row. Um no, I'm. lucky No, I I'm just I think it's. because I've been coming for so long, you know, that there's they feel I'm a. loyal. >> fan. Our family's been coming forever. So, I'm lucky enough to get that.

>> Okay. So, he doesn't have season tickets and. claims he can't afford season tickets, which is a lie. Ben Stiller can. absolutely afford season tickets to the. Knicks. I know a doctor friend of mine. who has them. He's got more than that. guy does. In 2016, he snapped up a. four-bedroom condo for 15 million in a. luxury building in the West Village of. New York. His main residence is a. 33-acre spread reportedly just north of. Manhattan in Chappaqua. He also owns.

reportedly a 14-acre pad near. near well in Hawaii. And he can afford. it. But. they get I didn't realize that these. celebrities are getting it the Adam. Silver the NBA commissioner gifts it to. them. And like Anna Wintour over at the. Met Gala he sprinkles his little fairy. dust on the ones he thinks I guess I. don't know people want to see there. So that's bad enough Glenn. That's bad. enough. Right? Because God forbid they.

have like a contest or they give it to. like. the New Yorker who's most down and out. had the roughest year lost his job in. this difficult economy or in Mom. Donnie's hideous New York. God forbid. they give it to like the Make-A-Wish. kid. No, we got to look at Taylor Swift. there fake excited over the miracle of. with her nitwit friend. She looked like. an idiot. Okay. [snorts]. Then enter Hank Azaria who starts off.

strong. I'm with him. He starts ripping. on Taylor. He's like I've had it with. this woman. I had to watch her at all. the football games and now she's got to. be at the basketball games too. Like I'm. sick of her. Yes Hank, you speak. for us all. But then started bitching. about his free seats because they were. in a suite that's high up at Madison. Square Garden and not down at the camera. level. There there he is in a seat. It's.

high up. I agree, but you're there. You're there. People around you outside. of your suite civilians had to pay a. minimum of six to seven grand for the. worst nosebleed in the house and his. came for free and he's still bitching. Listen here to what he said about those. seats to the Dan LeBatard Show. >> I tell you the one that bothered me was. Taylor Swift. >> Why? >> But come on. >> She just got here. >> I know she's the hugest thing in the. world, but we had to sit with her all.

through the NFL, and now she's at the. Garden. Come on. >> Wow. She gets four seats. >> it's it's. >> It's total bandwagon. Like. Hank has been there since the '70s. He's. the voice actor for a generation. Like. this is the. The man continues to be someone who. stars in movies for the better part of. 35, 40 years. >> Not that I question why she'd get the. seat. I'm just tired of the whole Taylor. Swift. >> She did have three seats. I got the. guest list in front of me right now. >> She had three seats.

>> Okay, but he went on to say. Uh okay. You don't know from the Garden. if you're going to get in until the day. of the game. If you're Ben Stiller or. Tracy Morgan, you know, I think Spike. Lee actually pays for his tickets, he. says, but they don't let you know until. day of because there's such high demand. After not making the cut for. complimentary tickets to game three, the. um. the actor said he was able to get in.

free to game four. That was the miracle. at MSG game. However, Hank Azaria. thought it was horrible, that's in. quotes, that his seats were in the. arena's Cisco Suites located within the. upper bowl. >> Oh, the. horror. >> "I know I'm not courtside," he said, "but I think MSG has got me good seats, but we're way up in what they call the. Cisco Suites, which are like the. ceiling," he recalled, noting that other. stars like Questlove, Rainn Wilson,

Edward Burns, Jeremy Strong, Aaron. Judge, and Christy Turlington were also. in the same area. "Like there's so many. folks who want in that they've stuck us. all up in the rafters. I'm sorry, but. this too is so out of touch, Glenn. >> Yeah, I mean, I get why sports leagues. want to have celebrities at their events. because it gives it for some people like. a kind of cachet, but it only really.

works if the people are actually. interested. You know, like Jack. Nicholson famously was like obsessed. with the LA Lakers, so it made sense for. the LA Lakers to want him always at the. game. Huge star, you know, like on the. at courtside. I guess like some New York like Spike. Lee always at the New York Knicks games. when they're winning, they're losing, whatever, like a real fan. I like the. sport I know and watch most is tennis. and there's like huge stars like from. the NBA and movie stars who love tennis, travel the world like really watching. the matches. I get why they're promoted. But like if you're going to be that and.

especially if you're going to get these. free tickets for an event, you know, where New Yorkers and their. you know, obviously millions of them who. have lived and died with the with the. New York Knicks forever. I lived in New. York 15 years when they were like the. era Patrick Ewing and like really good. teams. John Starks like never won the. championship. These people have been. waiting for these for forever. They're a. lot of them are priced out and then to. have these celebrities who don't even. seem like the real fans get in and get.

in free and get all these perks like. those suites have tons of perks. It's. not just like sitting in any old seat. high up. It's you know, like a a suite, then go on and complain that their seats. weren't as good as they as they This is. why there's so much resentment toward. the celebrity class. We talked about. this last time on Zoom like in order to. have this like mystique of celebrity. that actually is appealing, there needs. to be a mystique to it. Like you have to. have something opaque about yourself. You don't want to show yourself because. when you show yourself, you're showing. who you are like an ordinary guy with.

all the warts of everybody else, but. getting all these undue privileges and. that's what creates resentment and these. people seem not to realize it. They're. so immersed in this in this detached. culture that they don't understand any. longer what they sound like to people. If I were their agent, I would be like. just just shut up always unless you have. a script in front of you or some written. prepared speech and otherwise just go to. your movies, go to your TV, collect your. huge paycheck and go on a boat and just. don't let people have no anything else. about you.

>> Yes. I I they what they should have done. was say uh here's my seat, Daniel Penny. Here you go or cop patrolling the beat, you you want a good seat? They'd kill to. be able to sit in the Cisco. >> Or like a single mother who gets to. bring her kid, you know, who would never. otherwise afford it. Yeah, like that. would actually be something and not even. for PR like you would I personally would. feel better about it than, you know, just somebody who's gets every privilege. just taking it because you can even. though it doesn't give you like find.

somebody who would actually. see the experience as this. once-in-a-lifetime you know, opportunity. and I guess they just don't think that. way. >> Ugh, it's disgusting. Like. what a missed opportunity by Hank Azaria. to say like I was so thrilled to be. there like all I I was I'm so grateful. to the garden for making sure I had a. seat. That was so generous of them. Like. I saw my Knicks win it's like I have. nothing but blessings. I'm I'm very very. grateful instead of like we were up in. the nosebleeds with Christie Turlington.

Oh my god, you you started off strong. and then you fell apart Hank Azaria and. he's not the voice of a generation. either. It's like if you watch The. Simpsons, you enjoyed his work. Otherwise, most people don't even know. who Hank Azaria is. I'm sorry. And Ben. Stiller, I mean I give him credit for. like at least admitting like he he's. Charles Barkley um stepped in it, right? Cuz it was like. >> You're a real Knicks fan. You have. season tickets. Yeah, and he's like no, actually there's not three. They just. gave these to me. I really have no idea. why. >> [laughter].

>> But credit to him for admitting it and I. have to do something that pains me, but. I must do it. Um. there were all these Knicks fans on the. streets of New York watching on like. jumbotrons that were up, and they were. packed in like sardines, and it added a. lot to watch their reaction when the. Knicks won. It was That's exactly what. you wanted to see was their reaction and. how happy they were. And in smooshed in. with the crowd, I did see Jon Stewart. And I'm pretty sure this is where he.

was. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm sure the. audience will. But I I saw him, and he. was standing out there outside with a. baseball hat on with the everyman. And I. have to say I admired it. Like. he didn't. go inside the garden. Jon Stewart. absolutely could have afforded a $6,000. ticket or more. You know, some of the. other ones were tens of thousands. And he chose to spend it that way, and I. have to say I like it when people do. that. And he he didn't look to go He. wasn't Meghan Markle like making sure he.

got in front of the camera. Here I am. with the everyman. He was just there. watching the game and like cheering, and. somebody got him from the side. And I. was like, you know what? Good on you, man. >> Yeah, and you know, I'm sure you've had these experiences. too in in in New York, and I I. definitely did too. Like when I lived. there, I love New York, of course. Extremely frustrating. People who don't. live there look at it and say, "Why. would anyone want to live there with all. the obvious problems that it has?". But there are certain kinds of. experiences because of the diversity in. New York, and I don't mean diversity in. like the DEI way. I mean like natural.

diversity of so many different kinds of. people from so many walks of life who. are almost forced into finding this. common humanity and common ground and. common cause where those divisions. actually don't matter. New York has a. unique capability to bring people. together from like the richest to the. poorest to every kind of different. religion and background in a way that. really is inspiring. And I think having. this city that's so filled with every. different kind of person unite around. the sporting event, you know, if there. is something very encouraging about. humanity's ability to do that and there.

aren't many cities in America that. produce that like New York can and I. think that's one of the reasons why this. resonated so much. >> Yes, totally. Um, a word on Jalen Brunson before we. leave the next after. game four. He was in such demand because. that was the miracle at MSG. It really. was a miracle. They were down 30 plus. points and somehow they turned it, you. know, it was like before you knew it. they were down only 15 points, which. they were again in the final. It was. like, oh my god, the stress for, you.

know, Knicks fans. And really truly they deserve to win it. cuz it's like the Spurs, if you can't. win a game when you're 30 points up or. in the finals 15 point points up and. hold on to that lead in a game of that. consequence, I mean, with all due. respect, then you should expect to lose. So, good for him. He was the hero of. that game, too. And he came out the. night after game four. Um, and everybody wanted to hear his. reaction and what did you think of the. game and before he spoke about the game. at all, he said this about a Make-A-Wish.

kid. that he'd been connected to. Oh, shot 24. >> Um, real quick before we get started, um, just want to say, um, hearts and. my thoughts and prayers are with, uh, a. friend of mine I got to meet and talk to. last week, um, Jonathan from North. Carolina. Uh, from the Make-A-Wish Foundation and. the Garden of Dreams Foundation.

Um, he had a heart condition and, uh, it was just asked of me to. just kind of take a video and reach out. to him, but. something in my mind told me to, uh, try and get him on FaceTime get get to. chat with him and I was. got the pleasure to do so and, um, it was a quick call, but it was a It was. It was well worth it. And I just want to say my thoughts and. prayers were with him and his family. I just found out some news about him.

today. So, um. That guy was a soul. >> Oh. Obviously, the little boy died. Uh I don't know We haven't able been. able to find anything out about this. Jonathan, but uh clearly the last line. suggests that he died. And good for him, right? Like. It It's I've been on the receiving end. of that. Like, will you Will you do this. thing? Will you like make a phone call? Will you send a note? And if you. actually do, if you can spare the time to actually.

call and speak with the person live, it's so meaningful if they ac- actually. are your fan. And he did it. And it was one of the. little boy's last moments, Glenn. It. just restores your faith in humanity. Like, athletes so often there are bad. stories about our famous people. And here's a great one. I've I love this. guy. >> Well, yeah. And it's what we're talking. about before, too, with like how you. have the opportunity if you have these. kind of privileges to, instead of just. like gobbling them all up for yourself. and getting as much attention, you know,

you can do so many things that. obviously are are beneficial to the. people who you're helping, but obviously. but also are so beneficial to you. Like, look at how the Like, look at like this. is a guy at the height of like his his. career, right? He's at the pinnacle of. the success, the star of this incredibly. uh. significant sporting event where all. eyes are focused on him in the most. admirable way, and clearly the emotions. he had that he felt compelled to share. in like the most unrehearsed, genuine, from-the-heart way. You could just tell.

like his soul was invested in it. Probably gave to him at least as much. as, if not more than, whatever other. benefits he's getting from having been. the star of the series, helped the. Knicks win the first championship, at. the center of the world media capital, which is New York. And so many people. deprived themselves of that kind of. profound human experience because the. benefits aren't obvious. It takes. emotional investment, and just to see. somebody in that moment focused on that. instead of themselves, which, you know,

again, this is like an extremely. important one for him financially and. reputationally and every other way for a. sport to which he's devoted his life to. be able to have the presence of mind to. speak in that manner so powerfully and. and connected about someone who he did. not really know that well until the week. before, but was so affected by. Yeah, like you said, it does kind of remind. you that human beings are capable of. great things. >> Mhm. Okay, that gave me the chills when. you were talking about him. And he was. voted MVP of the finals. Of course, he.

very clearly was, so definitely has a. new fan in me, even though I don't. totally know his name yet by heart, but. I'm going to I'm going to remember. [laughter] it. >> You'll get there. >> I'm definitely going to remember it. But. unlike these other people, I'm not a. poser. I will tell you the truth about. where I stand and when it comes to. sports. I'm I'm not going to lie. I. think J. Lo is a poser. She posted this. video, Glenn, and Steve Krakauer, our. executive producer, cracks me up on our. producer text text chain sometimes. He. just he just sent it out with the word. relatable.

Watch this. >> That's it. >> It's her. It was clearly a multi-million. dollar home. It's huge TV. >> It looks like. I can't even explain the luxury we're. looking at, the fireplace, the windows. floor to ceiling. SHE'S DRESSED UP.

>> OKAY. OKAY, BECAUSE, GLENN, who doesn't have someone filming them. it in order to post it on social media. when something wonderful happens. >> That's the point. It's like she's acting. as though this is like some spontaneous, uncontrollable, emotional ecstasy, and. yet she has what I'm sure is a. professional social media person who. probably was instructed to make it seem. like it wasn't as professional as it. was, even though it's framed so.

perfectly to show the beauty of her. house. She's dressed up as well. Like. who watches, you know, like a a New York. Knicks game in their living room in like. Dolce & Gabbana or whatever it Prada, whatever it is that she's wearing with. her hair all done. And you know, it also like she's she is. the world's biggest poser. She just did. that subway interview where she was. like, "If you weren't born in New York, you're not a real New Yorker." Remember. she had that super cringey clip where. she talked about the going to the bodega. and she was like, "Got the orange juice, if you know, you know." And everyone who.

was actual New Yorker was like, "I don't. have any idea what you're talking. about." Nobody knew. She was acting like. it was some secret thing that only real. New Yorkers know that nobody actually. ever heard of. And she is just the. biggest farce. I mean, that was sad to. watch. I hadn't seen that until just. now. >> No, it was pathetic. I honestly like. she's definitely giving Meghan Markle. vibes too. Like, "Oh, it just got to. happen. I I just happen to be on camera. as, you know, my team won the In that. case, I think it was the World Series.". Her husband, Prince Harry, was there. He. showed up at the championship game.

Uh like with Adam Silver, the the. commissioner of the NBA, no no wife. And. apparently the only friend he brought. was a guy, a military guy from um. I don't know if it was his Invictus. Games or what he was, but like he has no. friends. You never see Prince Harry with. like And there he is with his buddies. from the military. Or there he is from. his buddies from Eton or like some. friends that they live by in Montecito. No friends. Not like me and Glenn.

Greenwald, friends for many years. And. I'd go to any finals with you, Glenn, nosebleeds or not. >> Let's go, and we won't complain about. where we're sitting either. >> But we will need somebody who's like. straight and like into sports to explain. to us what's going on. >> [laughter]. >> Well, you there's no shortage of those. people. We can find them. >> See you soon. Thanks for being here. Back tomorrow with. >> All right. >> J.D. Vance and you'll see who the. surprise guest is in the first hour.