Major Developments in Karmelo Anthony Case and Nonsense at Obama's Presidential Center Ceremony

Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome. to the Megyn Kelly's Show and happy. Monday. We have some major developments. that happened over the weekend in the. Carmelo Anthony case. Pretty shocking. actually as the evidence that the jury. saw is now finally being released. Not. all of it, but a lot of it before they. sentenced him to 35 years in prison for. killing Austin Metcalfe. And like I mean. like the the bottom line is all the. stuff that these agitators who refuse to. accept that this guy committed murder um.

is. proof positive. I mean it's just beyond. any doubt, never mind a reasonable. doubt, what happened here. And like the revisionist history by this. activist class is just stomach-turning. And you look at this evidence and we're. getting some more descriptions now of. the stuff that wasn't shown. It's like. the dishonesty of these people is just. so patent who want to reframe this. It's. absurd. It's absurd. I.

I thank God that the vast majority of. the American public understands what. happened here, white or black or other. color for that matter. And it's just. this agitator class like this these. folks who were outside of the courthouse. down in Texas and then the more elite. Jemele Hill overly educated types who. have spent so much time in the DEI web. that they just are entitled entangled in. it. They're trapped like a bug in a. spider's web. It's inescapable for them.

They're going to live their entire life. seeing everything through that prism. And [music] unfortunately, we live in. this world with them. So we're going to. be subjected to the madness, too. Don't miss a moment. Subscribe to this. show on YouTube and follow me on Insta, Facebook, and X. When you sign your. insurance agency for some brokers, that. is the finish line. It's a handshake. They get their commission. Done. And you may not hear again from them. until it's time for renewal and they.

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to supersure.com/megan, paid for by SuperSure Insurance Agency. LLC, which is a licensed insurance. agency. It was an eight-man, sorry, [music]. eight-woman, four-man jury. They reached. their verdict after hearing five days of. arguments and testimony earlier this. month. On Friday, Collin County Judge. John Roach, the same district judge that. oversee the trial oversaw the trial, released some of the trial evidence to. the public, but because no cameras were. allowed in the courtroom, the public is. seeing all of this for the first time. and it came out piecemeal. And of.

course, because it's a court, they don't. release it in like an organized, understandable way. And to be honest, most of the media has been too lazy to. actually organize it and present it the. way it ought to be. So, we we got it. Uh. the released evidence includes. surveillance footage. showing chaos minutes after the. stabbing. Also, a 911 call where you can. hear Hunter Metcalfe pleading for his. brother Austin, the victim, to stay. conscious. And Carmelo Anthony telling cops, as we.

heard right from day one in this case, "I'm not alleged. I did it.". "I'm not alleged. I did" Thank god he. said that. Like who who knows where this crazy. defense would have gone if he hadn't. so clearly. admitted it all on camera. I don't know. what the If you're some lunatic out. there who's going to paint Carmelo as. the victim and Austin as the. perpetrator, yeah, you might say he didn't even. plunge the knife in. Oh, we would have. heard something about how like white. people can't tell black people apart. We've heard that before. Um but he's there. It's clear as day. He.

said he did it. They had no wiggle room. So, they had to go with self-defense, which is a lie that's still being. pushed, and we'll talk about that, too. All right, so we're going to walk you. through some of the key evidence to try. to give you a better understanding of. what actually happened that day, notwithstanding the lies that perpetrate. the media right now. On your screen here, you can see Austin. Metcalfe entering the stadium. There he. is. Poor guy has no idea what's about to. happen to him. The 17-year-old looking like the epitome.

of health and vigor. Just minutes before his murder, he has. no idea his life is about to end. And here's Carmelo. walking up to the bleachers from the. steps in the middle of the stadium. He's highlighted in this video. He comes. up the stairs and heads down toward the. tent where Austin Metcalfe was standing. with his teammates. I've got to say, like throughout this, I don't see like. the downpour that necessitated him He. had to go underneath the tent.

I I kept waiting to see like the monsoon. conditions. Like where's the wind. rattling the top of that tent to where. like he had to do this thing that would. be considered highly inappropriate under. any other circumstance, which is to go. into an opposing team's home camp and. sit with them. It's not there. He was an agitator. He was trying to prove something. And obviously he was loaded for bear. Before we show you more, want to remind. you what Carmelo's father, Drew Anthony, told that idiot over at The Breakfast.

Club, Mimi Brown, on June 11th. The most. pathetic interview I've ever seen. somebody do. You've got the father of a. killer, and by the time you were done. with that interview, Mimi, you would all but convince your audience. that it was the other way around. Nothing against her personally. Just the. job she did that day was hideous. Um but here's a reminder on what. the murderer's father said. There's. surveillance footage which we had not.

yet seen, but he had. He said this about what that. surveillance footage would show. Watch. >> And so the video that you all uh. that that they they short showed in. court, it it it it shows him running. away. from. >> Yeah, he ran to the teacher. The teacher said the the teacher he ran. to he ran to a guy. and the teacher he ran to actually um.

um he hugged him cuz Carmelo. he's not like that. He he hugged the. guy. Like he was freaking out. He hugged. the guy. So the guy was they there was. hugging. He was crying hysterically and. um. they tried to paint it as if he was. trying to leave. But then in court court they should have. said it that he wasn't trying to leave. >> Yeah. OMG.

These are what we call lies. That's it's just so unbelievable. That that's not what happened at all. He. made a run for it and he was stopped by. a teacher who put him in a bear hug to. stop him from escaping. He needed a hug. Okay. In addition to what you just heard, there were many rumors on social media. that the surveillance footage was going. to display a group of boys ganging up on. Carmelo. He was surrounded. We heard. that before he stabbed Austin in. self-defense, terrified. Well, we have.

the footage that was shown to the jury. now. It's a little hard to make out and we're. going to show you a zoomed-in version in. just a moment, okay? But screen left, you see a yellow tent. There's a group. of students sitting underneath it. Near. the top, you see a brief altercation and. that's the moment when Carmelo Anthony. stabs Austin Metcalfe. You then see a. figure highlighted running out of the. top of the tent. That's Carmelo Anthony. See him running? He's highlighted here. He runs down the steps. He gets to the.

bottom of the bleachers, trips, and. falls. He gets back up and keeps. running. He knows what he's done. He runs until he gets to the end of the. stadium bleachers and then appears to. start walking. Got to play it cool. New. people seeing you. Don't want to project. panic. At one point, he turns back toward the. stands and then starts running away. again. He can see people are coming. And as he's running, you can see people. chasing him and pointing at him. He. knows what's happening here. It is the. equivalent of a a car chase, only it's.

on foot as the perpetrator who commits a. dastardly deed tries to get away. Carmelo slows his pace as he walks over. toward a group of people. Okay, so to to. go back to Carmelo's dad, Drew, who's a liar, who tried to say the video doesn't show. Carmelo trying to leave. That's it's a. lie. He is fleeing. And the reason he needed a lie is. because fleeing a scene, a criminal. scene, is admissible in court as consciousness.

of guilt and that's exactly what was. argued because we can all see that's. what it is with our own damn eyes. We're about to show you three critical. up-close videos of what happened under. the tent. These were enhanced by Robbie Harvey, a. true crime social media journalist on X. In this close-up video at the top of the. tent, you see Carmelo Anthony walk in. and sit down under the tent where the. murder occurred. Carmelo runs for another team. Again,

there was no reason for him to be inside. that tent and he knew it was provocative. to do this. A few minutes later, you see Austin. Metcalfe get up and move next to where. Carmelo Anthony is seated. Witnesses say. Austin was trying to get Anthony to. leave the team's tent. About 3 minutes later, you see two. people appear to push each other. Within seconds, Carmelo is seen running. out of the top of the tent. By our count, it was about 4 seconds.

between the pushing. and Carmelo running out of the tent. I mean, there was no build-up. There was. no long altercation. He shoved a knife in another boy's heart. and then made a run for it. After Carmelo ran away from the scene. and to the end of the stadium, he's. eventually brought back closer to the. crime scene by teachers. Not because he wanted to, but because they made him. They made him. According to CBS Texas, Memorial High. School athletic trainer, that's where.

Austin went, Tiffany Whitaker, first. stopped Carmelo and then handed him off. to Heritage head football coach Vincent. Hooper. According to journalist Sarah Fields, who was inside the courtroom for the. entire trial, Whitaker testified that she got in front. of Anthony as he was running, put her. hands up to keep him from leaving, and. then yelled at coach Hooper, "Hey, this. kid stabbed someone. Don't let him. leave." End quote. This is when coach Hooper put his arms. around Carmelo in a hugging fashion to.

prevent him from leaving the stadium. Quoting there, I'm quoting. That's the. testimony that was given. It's not a He. didn't need a hug. What a liar. I'm sorry. The father's a liar. The parents are liars. They hired a. lying spokesperson to represent them, a. race hustler, too, which appears to. apply to the parents as well. Not to. mention their core supporters and their. grandmother, Carmelo's grandmother, who. kept chanting "Racist. Biased. Racist.

Biased." after the guilty verdict. Why. don't you try accepting responsibility, okay? Maybe if you hadn't had such an entitled. attitude that's blind to facts, we. wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. Your grandson would be free and Austin. Metcalfe would still be alive. We also now have the video of Carmelo. being taken into custody shortly after. all of this, where Carmelo Anthony. leaves no doubt as to whether he was the. one who killed Austin. He tells the.

officer, "I'm not alleged. I did it.". Watch. >> I'm still the alleged suspect. I am. I'm not No, I'm not I'm not I know how I. go. I'm not alleged. I did it. >> There it is. That mean honestly, "I'm not alleged. I. did it.". We know. And there's body camera footage from a. different officer as Anthony is. arrested. You're going to hear [snorts]. him sound emotional when he tells the.

officer, who had not yet asked him any. questions about the crime, quote, "He. put his hands on me." Watch. >> I'm going to check his phone, okay? >> Thank you. >> More detail over there, guys. >> All right. >> He put his. hands on me. I told him nothing. He put his hands on. me. >> Is he going to be okay?

>> I don't know yet, man. >> Honestly, at the end you hear Anthony ask, "Is he. going to be okay?" And the officer says, "I don't know yet, man.". Carmelo doesn't fully understand that he. just. committed a murder. And let me tell you. something. That I believe those tears. I believe he. was upset. I believe it was sinking into. him in that moment what he'd done. And this isn't to take agency away from.

Carmelo Anthony, but I'm sorry this is. the fault of his parents. This is his. parents' fault. When a 17-year-old behaves like this, he's been raised wrong. Some severe failure has happened inside. the home. Some sense of entitlement, more than. likely some massive chip on one's. shoulder. that interprets. regular teenage slights. as existential, as something so. offensive and deeply wounding.

that that a man's life must be taken to. avenge oneself. Oh, you're tough guy, aren't you? He was. so tough just 5 minutes earlier. Now. he's reduced to tears like a crying. toddler. Keep in mind, not 1 second of that. grieving. can compare in any way to what Hunter. Metcalfe was going through in the tent. steps away. To the pain and agony that Austin and. Hunter's parents were about to receive.

when they got word what had happened to. their son. But. I accept Carmelo Anthony's tears and. upset as authentic. And I think he has himself, clearly, but. his parents to blame. We. have to teach our children emotional. regulation. That's a parent's job. And by the way, I. see this all the time as a mother of. three. It's not just this extreme, you. know, when you don't do it. I see like. these kids who are running around so. stressed out, so anxious, so like afraid.

of putting one foot in front of the. other, so afraid of making a mistake, constantly looking at mom and dad for. affirmation. That is a parental failure. It's a failure. Same thing when I see a mother hitting. her child in public. It's a failure by you, the mother. You're failing. Why are you smacking your kid around? In. public as he or she is crying. I've seen. it so many times, drives me nuts. Especially a toddler. Who hits a.

toddler? I'm sorry, it's disgusting. You. don't hit a toddler. I'm I'm Look, I was. raised in a family that used spanking. I. wasn't spanked as a baby. You know, it's like my mom and I have. had many laughs over the spanks that I. spankings that I did take, but I'm just. saying like. you see a toddler who's hysterical, that. child needs to be held. They need caring and loving to calm them. down. They need a caring soul to hold them and. so they can feel the calm of the. mother's body or the father's.

and a stroking of their hair. and calm, soothing sounds until they can. calm down. They can't express themselves. well. It's extremely frustrating. I I can't stand when parents don't. understand this about their little ones. And this kid, Carmelo Anthony, who was a. kid even though he was about to become a. man, didn't have emotional regulation. I mean, I I guarantee you. he went in there to be provocative. He. wanted to play the tough guy.

because he didn't he knew he didn't. belong in that tent. It wasn't pouring. rain. It wasn't some monsoon happening. down there. He didn't need to be there. And he's not 11, he's 17. He knew the. rules. You know you don't go over to the. opposing team's home camp. You know. that. You guys know I know nothing about. sports. Even I know that. So, he went there to be provocative and. then immediately upon being told to. leave, he essentially said, "Make me.". You know, "Why don't you try to make. me?".

And then Austin Metcalfe put hands on. him in a way that sounded about as. gentle as humanly possible. That the. testimony was that he placed hands on. Carmelo and the person sitting next to. Carmelo didn't even have Carmelo bump. into them. So, couldn't have been very forceful. And in that same moment. Carmelo shoved a knife into Austin's. heart. He wanted to be tough. It wasn't out of. fear. It was out of a small, tiny ego and a.

need to prove that he mattered, that he. was a badass, that he was some sort of a tough guy. It's a failure by the parents. This piece of evidence here shows. Carmelo in the police cruiser with his. hands in cuffs with what appears to be. Austin's blood. on his finger. It's awful. You can see it there at the. tip. >> [snorts]. >> Literally has blood on his hands.

In stark contrast to the relatively calm. arrest. are the dramatic and emotional 911. calls. Viewer discretion, a warning here. These. can be, first of all, hard to hear um. and second of all, just disturbing in. exactly. what they're saying. In this first clip. a friend of. Austin's details the scene. >> My friend just got stabbed. >> Give me a description of the person that. stabbed him. >> He was wearing a gray essential hoodie.

Uh he was black. He's standing out on. the sidewalk right now. My friend's. bleeding everywhere. >> The person that stabbed him, is he still. there? Do you still see him? >> Um there's adults all in my face. >> The person that stabbed your friend, is. he still there? >> Yeah, he's still here. Okay. Like I mean. like totally have him, he can't hurt. anyone. >> Okay, when you say they have him, are. they physically holding him down? >> Uh no, like they're just holding him. walking around. >> And in this 911 call, you can actually.

hear Hunter Metcalfe pleading. with his dying twin brother. Hunter is not the person calling 911 in. this call, but you can hear him in the. background. You're going to hear a couple of people, one man saying, "Stay with me.". Austin's voice is the deeper one. You. hear him saying, "Come on, come on, you. can do it. Fight through.". as he begs his brother to keep fighting. >> We have. a army veteran that's trying to keep.

compression on the wound. >> Okay. Are you with him now? >> Uh he is laying here. He is. starting to go unconscious. >> Is he awake? >> No, he's going unconscious. >> Okay, is he breathing? >> Not right now. >> He's not breathing at all? >> No. >> Okay, where was he stabbed? >> In his chest. >> Okay, I've got them coming, all right? Stay on. the phone with me, all right? Is the assailant still nearby?

>> I'm here. >> Is the assailant still nearby? I'm going to keep you with me, okay, until they're with you. Is he breathing. still? >> He's trying, yeah. We're doing. compressions and giving him. mouth-to-mouth. >> Okay. Hey, they're doing CPR on him. Okay, keep going, okay?

>> Yes, ma'am. >> The medics are coming as fast as they. can. Keep me updated, okay? >> Yes, ma'am. Fight through. Fight. through, baby bro. Fight through, Austin. bro. >> It is awful. So awful. These two sweet boys who grew up. together from the moment. they first came into this world in their. mother's womb together.

Holding each other as all little twins. do when they're in their mother's womb. and ever since. And you can hear him because they both. were avid sportsmen, tough competitors. And you can hear him thinking the only. thing he can do for his brother is to. encourage him to find that toughness. Fight through. Fight through. Fight. But it was impossible. It was a feat too great even for. Austin Metcalfe. His heart had been. punctured. with a 4-in knife.

so deeply. and so brutally. that the bone behind it had been nicked. What we weren't shown. according to Sarah Fields. is the body footage of body cam footage. showing Austin on the ground. This was. played in court. His face turning purple. gray. as Hunter was screaming, "Oh my god. Please God. Please. That's my brother. That's my best friend. Please God.".

That has not yet been released to the. public. Sarah wrote that in her notes that she. took. during the court proceedings, she could. barely write because she could not see. through her tears. The Metcalfe family was shaking and. sobbing in the court. She said, "I was. shocked that the body cam footage was. shown while Austin's family was in the. room. It was traumatic. It was haunting. The Anthony supporters did not shed a. tear. Stone-faced.

Hunter's screams along with the coach. yelling, this piece we did hear, "Stay. with me, Austin. Stay with me." on that. 911 call will forever linger. in my mind, and now you've heard it, too. Mhm. The court also releasing several. heartbreaking photos. This is the coat. Austin was wearing when he was stabbed. You can see the blood stains all over. it. And this is a photo of the murder. weapon. It was found on the bleachers where.

Carmelo Anthony threw it when he started. running away. And honestly, it's like. stupid. In addition to everything else, he. appears to be. pretty dumb. Is this your Is this your attempt to. hide your evidence? Look at this thing. You could gut a fish with this knife. This is not some. butter knife at the dinner table. This. thing can obviously kill. The reason I. have to remind you of that is because. Democratic Congresswoman, outgoing,

who failed at her Senate run, Jasmine. Crockett, actually got on camera in the wake of. this horrific tragedy and argued that. clearly the knife wasn't big enough to. be a deadly weapon. Remember? >> Was it a switch? I don't know. Woody had. >> It was like a It was It seemed like it. was a multi-tool, almost like a Swiss. Army knife. >> Yeah, like with the little scissors and. everything and whatever. So, it was. small.

Well, I would have argued the size of it. alone, you wouldn't even think it's a. deadly weapon. >> And then I forgot he had the the bag. >> If If that's If it was one of the little. Like I I don't know. Like I I do think. >> why he went to his coach and was like, "But I don't think I hurt him that bad.". And. >> These are a bunch of idiots sitting. together. trying to opine on something about which. they know nothing. The woman in the. bottom right hand of the screen for the. listening audience is she's got a bigger.

close-up than anybody else with this. smirk on her face that you want to smack. right off of it. No, like no. Look at this smirk on the woman bottom. right. off. Okay, he was not a victim. Of course, it's like they they got to turn it into. a black thing. It's so undermining to race relations. which are doing fine, by the way, notwithstanding the fact that you crazy. ass activists and they're not all black. Most of them are actually white women.

from the Upper West Side of Manhattan. and the like. Notwithstanding what. you've tried to do to the country for. the past 6 years, but we're actually. doing okay notwithstanding this kind of. behavior because we understand, thank. God, you don't speak for black people. The vast majority of whom are normal and. understand exactly what happened here, but off to you people who are. trying to minimize this. and change the facts from what they. clearly are. It's infuriating. Your. little smirk. I got news for you, little lady on the.

bottom right. White lives matter, okay? Sorry, but they do. Crockett. who says she's such a race hustler. herself with her like newly found black. scent. She sounds like me. We all know this. We heard this after. her $40,000 a year private high school. and a a campus that looked like it was. something out of a New England movie for. where the rich send their kids. She becomes a lawyer. She sounds like.

me. She sounds like anybody. who's had an education wasn't raised in. the hood. And now she she leans in. She's got to dial it up. What was that? A switch? I don't even. know. You know full well what it was. It. was a knife. And you know how. you know that it was a deadly weapon? Because Austin Metcalfe is dead. He bled. to death and his heart stopped working. because Carmelo Anthony shoved this 4-in. blade into their heart. If you're so. comfortable with the blade, Jasmine. Crockett, why don't you try shoving one.

into your own heart? See whether you. survive. See how you feel about the prospect of. taking that knife and sticking it in. your own heart. I'm going to guess it's. a it's a no. I'm going to guess when it's your own. safety in danger, you would say, "Actually, now I see how dangerous that. thing could be.". Stop. All right, just stop. That's like. saying a small gun, you know, like the kind that they put on. like a female spy's dress on her thigh. so she can sneak into the black-tie.

event. That that Yeah, I mean, I I might shoot myself with. that. It's so small. Eh. It's small, but deadly. Just ask the Metcalfe family. This knife was big enough to make this. fatal gash in Austin's chest. >> [sighs]. >> This is a photo of the actual knife. wound. Look at this. Look at this. After being stabbed and left with this.

hole in his heart, hole in his heart, Metcalfe ran down the bleachers grabbing. his chest. and telling those around him, "Get help. Please, get help.". Those must have been his last words. Now, with all of this evidence released. to the public, are any of these. supporters beginning to understand. why Anthony was found guilty? Are they sorry.

for their incendiary rhetoric? Are they. sorry for Hunter Metcalfe and causing. him. more harassment and harm. by by starting a. change.org petition to have him arrested. for assault, even though there's zero. evidence he laid hands on Carmelo. Anthony? They they want the brother arrested. There are literally people out there. saying that they should dig up Austin. Metcalfe and piss on his grave and on. him. Are they sorry? No. They certainly haven't expressed one. word of that.

One well-known Carmelo Anthony. supporter, Tiffany Billion. #goals. who helped raise money for Carmelo after. after his arrest writing on X quote, "Releasing the footage of a terrified. black teenager on Juneteenth is a slap. in the face to all of black America. Carmelo defended himself against. monstrous bullies. Carmelo is alive. because he defended himself. You can. clearly see Carmelo Anthony being. attacked under the canopy. This is why.

we'll keep fighting until he's free." I. just like. This is not about black versus white. This is about civilized versus. uncivilized. It's about honest versus dishonest. It's about sane versus insane. You know, I just. The the these these people do not speak. for the black community. I will never accept that. This is deeply wrong and all rational. people see it irrespective of skin.

color. The red. that Austin Metcalfe bled is plenty. evidence for most of us that he was the. victim. not the other way around. And as we've been outlining, the tape. shows nothing of the sort that Tiffany. Billion describes. It's just so upsetting. And it's. it's incendiary. It's incensing, right? It's you can hear it, I'm sure, because.

I can't stand this. I the Metcalfe. family has suffered enough. and they don't need this additional pain. heaped on them. So, the record is. straight. It reminds me of what they did to. Charlie after he was assassinated, after. he was murdered. And they came out and like immediately. started saying the worst things about. him, calling him a racist and a sexist. and all the things. And it would it. wasn't just fringy, it was in the pages. of the New York Times, which may be.

biased and unreliable in many ways, but. is not fringe, with Nicole Hannah-Jones, who's a, you. know, race hustler, too, being given. endless supply of ink. to write all the hateful lies she wanted. about Charlie. It's just so infuriating. After they. die, you can say whatever you want about. them. And as long as it's a righty or. someone who the right wing loves and the. left wing can't stand, you'll get away. with it.

You know, we did a long fact check of. that Nicole Hannah-Jones piece, which I. am very glad we did. It's on our YouTube. feed right now. If you just search. if you search. I'll probably my name and Nicole. Hannah-Jones, it'll come up and Charlie. Kirk. It's worth your time because they're. still telling those lies about Charlie. now. Still. That Amanda Seyfried. That act- She's not a bad actress, I got. to say. I saw her not too long ago in. something, she was very good. I wish she. was as good inside as her acting skills. are on the out. Because she's now playing the victim.

She's super upset. that. she she felt threatened after she came. out. and shat all over Charlie Kirk's grave. He he'd barely been dead what, a day? And she said he was hateful. Maybe wait. a beat. You know, maybe maybe give his. parents time to like pick out a casket. before you remind the world how hateful. you thought he was. I. I like honestly, I I defy anyone to ever.

find someone. like a collection of right-wingers doing. this. Try Try to find me ever saying. that. I I've I've been called hateful just in. frankly all the same ways Charlie was. Good luck. Try to find Charlie Kirk. There's tons of tape of him saying that. about somebody of the on the left wing. who had been assassinated. You can't. You won't. It's not going to happen. An American citizen, a fellow American. citizen? Like I've celebrated the death of.

terrorists. This is crazy what they're doing. The. switched narratives, the posthumous. defamatory takedowns. They're just so beneath us, or at least. I wish they were. Um. I want to I want to just do like a. palate cleanser. There's a lot of other. news to get to. But I want to do a palate cleanser. because that's so dark. Um. So normally I would do. you know, Flow. Um but I think we need a palate.

cleanser. Why don't we go to Joy Reid? She's also a race hustler, so the flow. is okay, but she's a nutcase and she. kind of makes me laugh. Like she doesn't. upset me. She just kind of makes me. laugh. These days, thank God she no. longer has that show on MSNBC. I realize. nobody watches MSNBC, but it they. shouldn't be platforming people like. that Tiffany Cross and Joy Reid. These. are nutcases. Like that's just freaking. crazy. Just can't be doing that. And um. here's the latest example of why she. lost her show and was too much even for.

them. >> Because in many ways, and with apologies. to my dear spicy white friends, cuz I. know that that that that that that my. that my my white brothers and sisters do. love a 4th of July. It is Independence. Day, everybody's barbecuing, it's a. thing. I can promise you, black folks, we will take that day off. We will barbecue because we off. But black people that nobody black I. know is is really excited about the 4th. of July cuz it is a it is what Frederick. Douglas said it is. It is the. celebration of slaveholders. who freed themselves from having to pay.

taxes to the crown for their slave. empire. And and that is what it is. >> Okay, then you need to meet other black. people, Joy Reid. Because there's not a black person I. know who won't be celebrating July 4th. as avidly and excitedly as most of their. fellow Americans. Um like. still. 250 years later still we're hung up on. like.

you know, women are not mentioned in the. Declaration of Independence. All men are. created equal. They don't mention women. Most of us have moved on. We're not like. really holding a grudge that we weren't. explicitly included. We understand the. spirit of change was in the air. and that eventually we would be. recognized as full. uh equal. citizens here in America. And same is. true for black people. America's not. perfect. We didn't get it right right. from the founding. That doesn't mean you. don't celebrate the country.

All right? You need to meet better black. people, Joy Reid. Spend some time with. Glenn Loury, for example. He'll give you a little lesson. In fact, right here we're going to drop in part. of his rant on our show that my team. knows is among my favorite clips we've. ever generated here on the MK show which. has started almost 6 years ago. And he was defending America. against charges like this lunatic's. nonsense. And as we head into the July 4th.

what's it called? Fortnight? Yeah, to. quote our friends from across the pond, might be a good time to hear Glenn. again. >> The narrative about the American story, the the American project is. fundamentally important. Is this a good. country. or is this a country that's founded on. genocide and and slavery? The. uh impact of Western settlement in the. Western Hemisphere, the European. settlement the Hemisphere, on the native.

population was devastating. There's not. any doubt about that. And the commerce. and chattel, which was a transatlantic. slavery, was of a huge scale, mostly. going to uh. uh Caribbean and uh South America, but. of a huge scale. It was monumental in in. world history. It was monumental in the. foundation of the uh uh events that led. to the American nation-state. There's. not any doubt about that. But the uh founding of the country. uh. 1776, 1787.

the the creation of the United States of. America was a world historic event in. which the enlightenment ideals got. instantiated in government institutions. And as a matter of fact, within a. century, slavery was gone. And you know. what? The people who had been African. chattel became citizens of the United. States of America, not equal citizens, not at first. It took another century. But they became, in the fullness of. time, equal citizens of the United. States of America. The United States of. America fought fascism in the Pacific.

and fought fascism in Europe. and saved the world. American democracy. became a beacon to, quote unquote, the. free world. We stood down under threat. of nuclear annihilation. The horror, which was the Union of. Soviet Socialist Republics. We have had the greatest transformation. in the social status of a serfdom. people, which was the uh what if what. the emancipation affected, and the. creation of the Negro, of the African.

American probably that you could find. anywhere in world history. 40 million strong, the richest people of. African descent on the planet, by far. This is a question of narrative. Are you going to look through the uh. lens of the United States as a racist uh. genocidal, white supremacist, illegitimate force? Are you going to see. it for what it is? Uh which in the last 300 years is the. greatest force for human liberty on the. planet.

That's worth fighting about. That these people at the New York Times. laid down to a latter-day woke ideology. and debase their country. is despicable. >> By the way, my team looked up the. episode number where we fact-check. Nicole Hannah-Jones. It's episode 1164. in our feed, so pretty easy to find. Uh okay, so that's Joy Reid. Now, I. mean, while we're on the subject of. lunatics on the left, we got to spend some time with Kamala.

Harris. >> [laughter]. >> Kamala Harris decided I love when she. she decides we need to hear from her. like we missed her. She's got things she. wants to say to us and she's she's there. again. So, it was Juneteenth. and um. first of all, she posted this to her own. Instagram account. We had no idea where. she was. She just posted it with this. message. This is the joy we're bringing. all Juneteenth weekend. Let's watch.

She's dancing, I think. >> [cheering]. >> Okay, so I I wish this video had been. around when we were debating whether. she's actually black because I don't I. don't think so. >> [laughter]. >> I think that's proof positive it's a no. She can't dance. My god, what's. happening there?

I think I can dance better than that and. I can't dance. My friend has tried to. teach me many times. I just I don't have. it in me. Look at this. What is it? We're supposed to feel celebratory in. watching it. Well, it's a no. We don't. Um then. look at this. Then. She's got like the hands above the. midline. It looks a little Trumpy, if I. may say. Like it's got a little like a. Trump to the top the top half of the. body.

Okay. Uh. She decided to sit down for an. interview. Guess we're celebrating. Juneteenth with Don Lemon. And it's tough to say who is more absurd. between the two of them, but. I'm going to have to give it to the. former VP. So well done, you know, because you you. had some stiff competition there. Well. done. You won something. Uh and in about, I don't know, 60. seconds or so, she managed to squeeze in. every. empty word of inspo.

that like the 16-year-old set online on. Instagram, like girls in. sophomore year of high school might. shove at you in an attempt to really. make you feel great about something. you've done, only she's been the vice. president, so you'd expect a little bit. more. And possibly an actual profundity. here or there, but no. Instead. we got this masterpiece. >> So then, what's your case for hope then? >> You know, I I believe that uh.

when we feel powerless. we are powerless. And when we feel powerful, we are. powerful. We each have have light inside. of us. And we need to know that that is what. inspires our hope as much as anything. external to ourselves. And when we feel that and and and not. allow an election or an individual to. dampen that light. um and instead light let that light kind.

of carry us in particular through. moments of darkness. that that we. not only act on that hope, but we. inspire that hope in each other. It is so important that we not only have. hope, but that we understand that that. should be a verb, which means that hope has to go hand in. hand with action. That hope combined. with the action will result in us.

winning the midterms, and that we will also understand that. that hope is consistent with a. commitment to the fight. The fight for equality. >> [laughter]. >> Did you get one more in? It You get a set of steak knives if you. can get one more empty Inspo word in. your little. diatribe. Even Don Lemon. I like is sitting there looking.

expressionless into the camera like, "Where is this going? What is she. saying?". >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Please God, please. I've been a good. girl. Please let her run for president. again. Please, I deserve this. I. I I don't ask for that much. I almost. never pray for myself. I'm asking for. this one. Please, please let her run for. president again. Please give her the. Give her the hope and the light and the. Inspo to fight the darkness. Just kidding, Lord. That wasn't a real. prayer. He knows that already. He knows. everything.

Um. there she is. Now, there's Don Lemon on. the other hand who will does not escape. um. without without dinging himself up. He. decided that um he needed to bring up. how evil this administration is and um. the DOJ and so on. And here's how that. went. You'll notice there's no explicit. mention of his own indictment, which I'm. just going to say as a journalist seems. like something you might feel compelled. to disclose to your audience so they can.

factor in your bias in making a point. like this, but I report, you decide. >> But I think that the people who deserve. to be prosecuted or whatever it is. uh for misusing the Justice Department. and uh abusing, I believe, American. citizens and American politicians are. whatever you want to say, political. rivals or whatever. I think that they. should face, you know, some sort of. justice. >> Oh, well, I absolutely believe that. And. I believe that there should be that that.

there should be accountability. >> Like Pam Bondi, like. Kristi Noem, like I mean, if you look at. what's happening, I I am heartbroken. when I look at uh the Civil Rights. Division of the Justice Department. That. has just been. >> It is criminal. >> If you are president, let's just say in. 2028 you are elected, will you make sure. that there's accountability? >> Oh, I believe firmly in accountability. Yes.

>> My lord. Okay, neither one of these. people is going to be anywhere near the. presidency. I'm sorry to tell you, her. days are over. She blackmailed Joe Biden. into the position by calling him a. racist on the debate stage, and then he. had to choose a black woman because the. Democratic Party. understands that's their core voting. block. She wasn't chosen because she's. particularly talented. There are very. talented black women. She's not on the. list. Um but even that there on screen. left has talked about running for. president. Don Lemon thinks he can run. for president, too. Okay, great. I would.

love to cover that. I hope he does. Um. So, yeah, he no disclosure in his. criticisms of Pam Bondi. that she's she was DOJ Attorney General. at the time he was indicted. And the. nerve to rip on Harmeet Dhillon, who's. running Civil Rights. I mean, we've. never had a greater head of the DOJ. Civil Rights Division. She is a badass. serious lawyer. She's handled all sorts. of cases throughout her. decades-long career. She's respected.

across the aisle. She was making a. killing in private practice and took a. serious hit financially to go and serve. her country in this position, not to. mention the fact that she's had a lot of. loss in her personal life over the past. couple of years, but she picked herself. up, dusted herself off, and said yes, pick me, I agree to serve. I mean, she's. she's a national heroine. But these two rip on her like she's some. partisan hack, like Merrick Garland was. And um. again, without any disclosure on Don Don.

Lemon's part. So, remember when I said. that he was kind of like what is she. saying? I don't understand it. And. you're starting to think like is it. possible he's the smart one? Is he Is he. the smart one in this Is this exchange? Just when you're starting to think maybe. maybe I misjudged him. Maybe like he he. sees through her. Uh guess again. He's there to remind you. uh guess again. Watch. >> You know, as we were sitting here, we. were doing this interview, I have to. tell you that I got a little bit.

overwhelmed, which I don't I don't know. where it came from because I'm sitting. here with the first black vice president. of the United States, woman, first black. woman president, and um you know, we're. celebrating Juneteenth, and I never. could have imagined. that I would be sitting in this seat. interviewing someone like you. So, we. have made progress. >> Yes, we have. >> But um we've got to do a lot in order to. keep that progress, and you are you are. a part of that right now. So, thank you. for what you do, and thank you for doing. this, Madam Vice President. I really. appreciate it.

>> Thank you, Don Lemon, and thank you for. continuing with your calling as a. journalist, and always speaking truth even when it. may be at. great personal risk. and sacrifice. >> [laughter]. >> Okay. Don Lemon was not facing any great. personal risk when he stormed that. church in St. Paul, Minnesota. He was.

creating chaos and danger for the. peaceful churchgoers around him. Remember the report that somebody. severely hurt her arm? There was one. report it was actually broken. Um and. the children crying. He's an agent of. chaos. He He is not some brave intrepid. journalist risking it all. All right, that that's why he got indicted. Okay?

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the Hope and Change reception area with. the hideous. >> [laughter]. >> portrait of the two of them, where she. looks like the president and he looks. like backup girl number two. You know, like honestly, it's crazy. It's crazy that either one of them. allowed this. You know, even if. I don't know. I guess if I ever became. president. and Doug were like the first gentleman, I guess I'd be okay with that portrait. I wouldn't want anything anything at all. that was emasculating for my husband.

I guess it wouldn't be emasculating if. the the woman had been the president and. the man. wasn't. But here. he was the president for 8 years. She. was the first lady and not a. particularly great one. She didn't really accomplish anything. She did something on school lunches, which everyone seemed to hate. I was kind of into it because I do think. school lunches should be healthier to be. honest. And she started the Let's Move. campaign to get kids moving. Okay, that's good. I'm I'm not in favor of.

childhood obesity or adult obesity for. that matter. So, okay. That's it. Well, that's a All right. Like good. Terrific. Other than that. what she's going to be remembered for, well, now it's going to be her. bitterness cuz she let that mask slide. almost as soon as she left office, but. especially since she launched that pod. podcast. But she's going to be. remembered for all those Vogue covers. that Anna Wintour gave her and their. attempts to make us think she's a style. icon. Okay, we don't. I'm sorry, but we.

don't. Um. and just the fawning press coverage that. she was given notwithstanding the fact. she hadn't accomplished anything. Like. she was a lawyer at some Chicago law. firm. Okay, it's like there's millions of. lawyers in the country. They have an. approval rating equal to that of a. cockroach. See, I'm allowed to say that. cuz I'm a lawyer, too. Um. Being a respected lawyer is only. something you think is going to happen. when you're in law school. And then you. get out into the real world and you. realize nobody respects lawyers. Now, it's not that we're not necessary. We're.

necessary. Especially the criminal defense lawyers, but all lawyers are necessary. They're a. necessary cog in the US wheel. However, it's nothing great. It's nothing like. oh, wow, she became a lawyer. Ooh. Like, okay. She got into Princeton thanks to. the DEI program. She's admitted it. Good. for her, affirmative action. Um. So, in any event. she's pictured front and center in their. presidential portrait, not her husband. who was the president. He's in the. background. She's in the power seat.

facing camera and he's more like side. profile. It's crazy. Um. and they had their opening. and they had the Clintons come and the. Bidens come and it was all super super. chummy and they decided, not having. received the message, even the Bidens, from 2024, where he was kicked out of. office in part because of his woke. policies that drove even some portion of. the left crazy. to begin the whole thing with.

insert words here, a land. acknowledgement. Watch. >> We'd also like to take a moment to. recognize the original inhabitants of. the land upon which we are gathered. today. We honor the Anishinaabe, the Council of. Three Fires, the Ojibwe, the Odawa and. the Potawatomi Nations. >> God bless you. The Ojibwe, the Potawata blah Nations. What What?

No one there knows what she's talking. about. Everyone's eye rolling. The nerve, too. It's like What like a. the Are you going to give the land back? Why did you build there? Chicago's very large. Illinois's huge. Why did you build there. if it's somebody else's land? Like what I'm virtuous cuz I feel bad. about it. Unlike you conservatives, I'm. virtuous cuz I feel bad about it, says. Valerie. Um. Okay. So, there we get the land. acknowledgement. So, they haven't.

changed their tune. Which is again why Kamala Harris will. not be president. Again, yeah, she's. still on board with all of that as is. Obama. Remember he was supposed to be. the more reasonable one? No, apparently. not. Um. And then you've got Barack Obama talking. about what people want right now. This. is what they want. Cut 21. >> People aren't looking for perpetual. anger. and division. They are looking for fairness and common. sense and mutual respect. That deep in.

our gut, we want to find a way to turn. towards each other again, not further. away. I believe this because I've seen it. all across our country. In cities that have worked together to. reclaim their streets from crime. in rural communities that have rebuilt. their economy. and businesses that are finding new ways.

to make housing affordable. and those ordinary people. in the Twin Cities who brave frigid. temperatures, risk their own safety, standing shoulder to shoulder to look. out for their neighbors and sometimes. look out for strangers because they knew. that was the right thing to do. I've. seen it. >> [applause]. >> Okay. So, people right now are looking for. fairness and common sense and mutual.

respect, he says, and tips his hat to. the ICE protesters in Minnesota. I. I'm not sure he had his television on. because um they bit um. the fingers off of an ICE agent. It. didn't feel mutually respectful to me. And it's an obvious dig at President. Trump, right? Mutual respect and. fairness. He wants less division. He was. the most divisive president we had had.

in modern history during his term. Honestly, he he was the one. who seized 1/6 of the US economy, the. healthcare system, and shoved a new. system down the throats of Americans who. did not want it. It was the first time ever we created a. new entitlement in the United States. that did not have majority support. He. shoved it down our throats with lies. "You can keep your plan if you like your. plan. If you like your doctor, you can. keep your doctor." So egregious that.

even his supporters, as time passed, would ultimately label those the lie of. the year. That's how egregious his falsehoods were. about something as critical as your. healthcare. And we knew it. Those of us who objected. to it back in the 2008 to 2010 timeframe. knew he was lying because the experts. made it clear he was. He just continued to do it through his. teeth, but you see, he doesn't get. called out as a liar because he's not. brash. He's not orange. He doesn't have.

the hair. So, we had to believe in him. We had to believe hope and change. wouldn't lie to us. "Oh, I mean, we're. doing politics differently now. We're done with the division. There is. no red state America. There is no blue. state America. There's only the United. States of America.". That's not how he governed. He shoved that plan down our throats. with lies. And people died as a result. And when he shoved that plan down our. throats, he looked at John McCain and said,

"Elections have consequences, John. They have consequences. off.". Right, half of the country that doesn't. want this? He was so glib and smug about it. He. couldn't care less that old people were. genuinely scared about what was going to. happen to them, and they were right to. be. He's the one who started commenting on. legal cases in a way we had never seen. before. Now, Trump does it all the time. Joe Biden did it all the time. Joe Biden.

was calling Kyle Rittenhouse a white. supremacist when he was running for. office long before we even had a trial. That was brand new ground when Barack. Obama did it. We didn't used to have. presidents weighing in on legal cases. like that. Never mind the race. of the perpetrators and saying things. like if I had a son, he'd look like. Trayvon Martin. How dare you? Stay out of it. Don't prejudice a trial for either. party. That was Barack Obama.

He's the one. who told us he couldn't do any more on. immigration reform until he magically. took out his pen and his phone and found. more that he could do extra legally. He's the one who activated his Attorney. General to be his right-hand wingman. instead of an objective chief law. enforcement officer. And now, I mean, those days are gone. now. Now now the AG basically just works. for the president. It's obviously true. under the Trump administration, but it. we can thank Barack Obama for changing.

that previously existing norm. So, I. don't want to hear any lectures from him. about mutual respect or division, divisiveness. Because he's the architect of it. He's very good at selling it in a much. nicer way. He's a good orator. You know, he looks nice. He sounds nice. He's got good tonality in delivering his. speeches. But make no mistake about it. He is far more divisive when it comes to.

the way he actually governed than even. orange man bad. according to these leftists who now sits. in the White House. Trump is much more moderate than Barack. Obama ever was. Ever. So, this is all a facade. It's a lie. that they're putting on camera there. And of course, they ate it up, hook, line, and sinker. Now, here's his wife, Michelle, who. listen to it for a couple of things in.

this sound bite. Back to the fact that. she wants us to believe she was really. the president, right? The portrait, why is she front and. center? She wasn't the president. Sorry, but you weren't. Um. listen for the key phrase in this next. sound bite on that, and then listen to. the substantive point, because her. substantive point is also not right. Slot 22. >> It's why during our administration we. threw open the White House doors to all.

sorts of folks who don't usually get to. meet the president or first lady. The families pinching pennies to send. their first child to college. The teenagers who know that a hot. afternoon means the bullets start. flying. The military spouses and children. serving and sacrificing just like their. well loved ones in uniform. The native kids showing us that. resilience and pride.

can never be stolen. The 4-H'ers and FFA members with. calluses on their hands from feeding. livestock. The immigrants proving what. it truly means to be a dreamer. THESE FOLKS. THESE FOLKS aren't Americans, too. They are America. They are the beating heart of this. country.

>> Okay. Uh now, I love that she now is. worried about the inner-city kids who. have to worry about bullets flying. That's your hometown, madam. That's. Chicago. What did you do to help them? Hm? Cuz I saw a lot of protesting after. George Floyd. joining in on the George. Floyd-a-palooza. None of that helps Southside Chicago. None of it. The only thing that's going to help. Southside Chicago is. more police. Which wasn't done.

Will never be done. You don't seem to. count those black lives in the tally. The black lives who get killed only seem. to matter to the activist class if it's. at the hands of a police officer. Not a black gang member. Whereas actual black Americans want to. be safe. Just like Asian Americans and. white Americans and Hispanic Americans. I know because they've come on my show. time after time to say exactly that. To talk about their fear as. neighborhoods got depoliced thanks to.

Democrats like you. Michelle. And then did you hear the reference to. our administration? What did you do? You aren't You're part of the. administration. You're the first lady. Can you imagine Melania Trump ever. talking like that? Seriously, can you. imagine Melania Trump ever saying our. administration? She always says my. husband my husband My husband has done. this. My husband's administration.

She's respectful. She understands that. she's not actually a political leader. She's more of a figurehead. The first. lady does things like. She puts on the Christmas party. Oversees the Easter egg egg roll. Does. some sort of non-controversial. initiative like Let's Move. But you're not actually part of the. administration. You don't have a job. that requires Senate confirmation. You Like who died made you president? You never were. Sorry. It was your husband no matter.

what the portrait looks like. Then we get to. the piece about immigrants. How much she cares, how these these. dreamers who are illegal immigrants. It's a nicer word for illegal immigrant. who was brought here as a kid. Um. she she Okay, by the way, read the room. because now's really not the time to be. celebrating the dreamers. One was. allegedly just at the head of that. scheme that targeted the UFC 250th event.

um. for terror. Came up with the plan. The guy's from. Mexico. A dreamer, a sweet dreamer. Who. could be against dreaming? Yeah, a dreamer from Mexico, according. to the authorities, was the mastermind. of the plot to have drones drop bombs. over the UFC event that happened. two Sundays ago and then shoot people as. they ran for their lives. So, read the room. We're not really feeling.

that warm and fuzzy about the dreamers, Michelle. But, what did the Democrats do when. actual illegals did come into the. country and had the nerve to travel. north of the Mason-Dixon? Now, that's when my pals on the Upper. West Side and Michelle's pals in the. Martha's Vineyard gatherings really find. their spines. That's when like. you know.

what's the the rubber meets the road, okay? Because now we're going to have to. get really honest about how we feel. about dreamers and illegal immigrants. I'm sorry, undocumented workers. who come here just in search of a better. life. That's all they ever want. It's. not about causing mayhem. It's not about. shooting dead Sheridan Gorman on a. Chicago pier as she runs for her life at. age 18 just off to college. No, it's not. about assaulting sexually and killing.

Laken Riley. It's not what it is. It's. not about sexually assaulting and. throwing over a bridge Jocelyn Nungaray. It's about a better life. A better life, okay? Um. and we did see this experiment. with our own eyes a couple of years ago. When the brilliant Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, decided to take a bunch of illegals who. found their way into the great state of. Florida and shipped them up to Martha's. Vineyard by bus.

Here are the pictures. Ron DeSantis may not be a great retail. politician, but he is a brilliant guy. And he's a very effective leader, for. sure. And he sent these people to Martha's. Vineyard knowing exactly what would. happen, and it did. And this is also. uh one of our favorite sound bites. We've got the Glenn Loury sound bite. of the Megan Kelly Show tenure. Here's. another one. This is one of our. favorites, too. Um this is a gal named. Lisa Belcastro, who was the coordinator.

for the Martha's Vineyard homeless. shelter, Harbor Homes, um upon the influx of all the illegals. who Michelle Obama. wants us to know that the doors were. open to. They were open. When Democrats are in charge, the doors. are open. But this was 2022, and as far as I recall, it was a Democrat who was in the White. House then, and Kamala Harris, too. She. was the vice vice president then. And. this is how things went down. Let's.

check in with Lisa upon the influx. >> The difficult challenges are. uh. we have to at some point in time they. have to move here. somewhere else. Right? We we cannot We. don't have the services to take care of. 50 migrants. Um and we we certainly. don't have housing. We're in a housing. crisis as we are on this island. And so. We don't We can't house everyone here. that lives here and works here. We don't. have housing for 50 more people.

>> You don't? Uh. >> to Texas' world. Welcome to the southern borders world. Arizona and beyond. They too lack the facilities and the. housing, Lisa. Uh. And in the in the meantime, did we see. Michelle and Barack Obama say, "Well, we. we live in Martha's Vineyard. We can. help. You know, we're just kind of. sitting around making millions off of. Spotify now. We don't mind helping. We're going to.

you know, put our money where our mouth. is." Because they have. uh a home that they bought in 2019. So, they were there in 2022 worth more than. 20 million dollars. Do you have a home. worth more than 20 million dollars? Cuz. they do. Michelle does. It has seven bedrooms, eight and a half. baths, a large swimming pool, and a. private beachfront. This is to say. nothing of their home in Chicago, their. home in Washington, D.C., which is very. stately, their home in Hawaii.

They've got all the friends with the. yachts, David Geffen. They love to go. out on his yacht. It's so fun to party. on a yacht. Um I don't remember her. offering up the yacht or the home, which. was just a stone's throw away in. Martha's Vineyard. Has 30 acres. 30. acres in Martha's Vineyard. Do you know. what like kind of money we're talking. about there? That They didn't volunteer. to have the illegals come there, even. though she really wants us to believe. that the doors were open under the. Democrats to all sorts of folks who.

don't usually meet the president like. dreamers. Don't remember it. Didn't happen, actually. Um one more on Michelle, and then I got. to do something with Joe, Joe Biden, at. this event. Michelle gave an interview. with Barack, right? I think Barack was. there, too, but Michelle was definitely. there. Yeah. It was both. It was both, yeah, because he has a different answer. than she does. To Robin Roberts of GMA. uh in advance of all this. And you may have seen this cuz it went. totally viral. Listen to the different.

answers they give when asked to describe. their next chapter. in one word. >> One word to describe your next chapter. One word. >> Fun. >> Uh, me. >> That's what you call drop the mic. >> [snorts]. >> Oh my god, Robin Roberts. That's what. you call drop the mic. You can't get mad. at Robin Roberts. She's such a nice. person. I like she failed so mightily on.

that Jussie Smollett interview. I mean, we know what kind of a journalist she. is, but she is a nice lady. I actually happen to like Robin Roberts. personally, but in any event, that was. not a drop the mic moment at all. Uh, that was a drop the ball moment from. a PR perspective. Barack's answer was. fine. Good for him. He should have some. fun. He's worked very hard his whole. life. His wife, we're we're finally in the Michelle. Obama era? Finally? Okay. Didn't Forgive me for not noticing like.

the four covers of Vogue were not the. Michelle Obama era? She's really This is just I like I'm. kind of over her, but just quickly, she. was bitter about getting married. She's. bitter about playing second fiddle to. her husband. She's very bitter about. having children and having to raise. them. She sees them as like they're the. ball and chain to her. She's thrilled they're launched, quote, launched, that she doesn't have to. parent them anymore. And now, I guess, she's finally going to. focus on herself. Okay, how? Because her. podcast shows a woman who's utterly. miserable, who apparently desperately.

needs, but hasn't gotten, the therapy. she needs. And she's launched a podcast, which is failing. It's not going well. She doesn't seem to want to hang her. shingle back out and do the career for. which she was trained. Okay. So, what. are we going to What is it? Because you. wrote a book called Becoming about. yourself, how becoming you are. Uh, it seems like that might have been. the you era. I I. We didn't already have the Michelle. Obama era with the Vogue covers and the. magazine spreads and the fashion shows. and the first lady thing and the I'm.

becoming number one New York Times. worldwide best-seller. I. I I'm confused. I thought that was the. Michelle Obama era. Um I I can't wait to. see what the me era actually is. But. remember like then then you found. yourself and you started wearing your. braids and you gave us a lecture on how. you couldn't do it cuz we were also. racist and we wouldn't allow it. But. then you did it and you posed in your. portrait for a few years ago and that. was like the you moment where you were. coming out like take a stand. Like who. Who is that for? What the What Who is. that stuff for? Who is the launching of.

the podcast for? Who is like I don't. I you you then you launched a whole. another book this this past year of you. and your fashion. that we're supposed to celebrate you. once again your great fashion choices. Um Whose era was that? I'm. having difficulty like. Is it The The messaging is that it's. impossible. for you to prioritize you or be your. fully. in your own skin and comfortable with it. and thriving and well and joyful if your.

children are still in the home. You've. got to get them out. Because you cannot both tend to one's. self and one's children at the same. time. Challenge. Lots of us do it every day. Lots of us Michelle. We don't need to. scrub the deck of all people for whom we. care and care about in order for us to. prioritize our own wellness. or happiness or era. She's not a mentally well person. I. think that's been clear for a long time.

Um now we got to spend a minute on Joe. Here's This is in its way the most. infuriating clip. that I've seen in recent memory. I think it'll be obvious why but I'll. explain it on the back end but here all. They were all there like I said the. Bidens the Obamas and so on. And what we saw uh shortly into the. event as they I mean, not shortly into. it, like as the event was wrapping up, was everybody starting to leave. And what we saw was in a a moment just.

like at that California fundraiser. before like a month before the June. 2024 debate. when Biden had his meltdown. A month before that he had had a. California fundraising event with George. Clooney. and the guys from Pod Save America. And. remember we saw him freeze up on the. stage and Barack had to go get him and. hold his hand and get him off stage and. then we were told that if we believe. that we were just watching deep fakes. and it never really happened. And those. of course were lies. Well, it happened. again. You would think that Barack and. Jill of all people would know not to.

leave grandpa behind. He needs care and. feeding. You know, he's going to fall asleep in. his tapioca unless you got him by the. hand and we should know that by now, but. apparently we forgot. Here's video 10. Okay, he's walking. This is Barack and Jill walking off the. stage. Not even not even like. looking back. Now the camera pans back. There's Joe. There's Joe. It's funny, but it's also. infuriating. It's a lot of things. He's.

standing there with his aviators on, giving the thumbs up, squinting out at. the crowd. He looks. totally befuddled. He apparently says something like, "Where's so-and-so?" as if he's looking. for somebody. The even the camera. operator has to pan up away from him. because. he knows this is uncomfortable. Nobody. They forgot grandpa. They left him. Look, there's Barack, there's Michelle. in the white jacket. No, you forgot grandpa. And sorry, I. mean Jill. And here here's what's so. infuriating about They actually wanted.

us to put him back in office a second. term. They told us this person could be. free to le free to leader of the free. world for another 4 years. They told us. that. They wanted him to be in charge of the. nuclear codes. That guy we just saw. right there for 4 more years. And told us there was nothing wrong with. his mental competency. And if it hadn't been for a man named. Donald Trump, they might have gotten. away with it. And it's deeply scary scary alarming.

a betrayal. and and immoral. It's it's immoral. So, yeah. That's. the Democrat Party and there's been no. atonement ever after. We're still. dealing with their lies about that era. in our history and it's. it's wrong. It's morally wrong. Uh okay. I want to spend a minute on. Israel. and Iran.

Um Oh, wait. Before I get to that, Jimmy. Kimmel. My my crack producer reminds me. Maybe we'll save Israel and Iran for. tomorrow cuz we have VDH coming and he's. he's an expert on. everything that's happening over there. So, I'll save the Israel Iran update for. tomorrow. Um. even though we got a really good Nancy. up Nancy Guthrie update to get to. We'll. do that tomorrow, too. All right, we're. going to do Nancy Guthrie tomorrow and. Iran. Probably the only show in all of. media to do those two topics together, but there you have it. We'll end today.

with Jimmy Kimmel. Well, no, I want to. end with Norway. So, I got 6 minutes. because we're running out of time. Jimmy Kimmel's going on vacay. for 2 months. Do you have a 2-month. vacay? Probably not. Do you have 30. acres in Martha's Vineyard? Probably. not. These are our betters, you see. These are our moral betters because they. do land acknowledgements, so they're. better than we are. Jimmy Kimmel's going on a 2-month. sabbatical and guess who he has. sub hosting for him. It's a litany of left-wing comedians, most of whom you don't know very well. because he's worried about his job.

security, so he's got to find people who. are lesser than he is. Um but none none more so than. the next person. I'm going to show you. who actually gave her an interview. recently to Jim Acosta. And here's what she was saying in this. interview. This is the. a 2-week guest host out of the 2 months. for Jimmy Kimmel slot 27. >> I mean, part of the reason that I left. is I never in a million years thought we. would put a convicted felon.

who tried to start an insurrection back. in office. >> Right. >> How did that happen? I don't think it. happened. I think Kamala won. I do. >> Interesting. >> And uh I think that we're going to find. all this out. It's going to come out. And it's I'm not the first person to say. this. There are all these researchers. who are saying it. I read it online. again today. >> Oh, if she read it online, then. then obviously it's true. that Trump didn't really win the 2024. election. I was told by some reliable.

sources that election denialism is wrong. and basically makes you an. insurrectionist or a supporter. Interesting. Says Jim Acosta, "Interesting." Hm. Interesting. Um another word might be unsupported, made up, invented, but okay, you do you. So, Rosie O'Donnell's going to be guest. hosting the Jimmy Kimmel. show and we have real questions about. whether. Rosie will be offering bits like this,

speculative questioning she gave to us a. year or so ago in the. Was it in the week of the presidential. election? It was right around then. Wonder if she's going to be bringing. this up to Jimmy's audience, which is. ever dwindling. Watch. >> Well, hey everybody. It's Friday all. day, as my Nana would say. And look what I have on my lip. Everybody's been saying you have herpes, you have herpes all this time, and I. never had [clears throat] a cold sore in. my life. And now I have a cold sore. And. it makes me think that perhaps this.

weird pimple that had a tiny little head. was a cold sore, too. And so I talked to my doctor today and I. did a video telehealth. And they said that. it's not a cold sore. It's some reaction. to the sun. So I don't know. I will let. you know tomorrow if I do in fact have. herpes as some of the taunting from the. MAGA people. in the last couple of. couple of weeks. Hasn't it been fun,

ladies and gentlemen, to be standing in direct opposition to. everything he is and represents? And always has been. And. always will be. >> So MAGA gave her herpes and now she's. guest hosting Jimmy Kimmel. >> [laughter]. >> Uh note to the guests, don't get too. close. Do not do the hello kiss when you.

arrive on stage. She later confirmed it. was indeed a cold sore, i.e. herpes, and. she blames MAGA for giving it to her, the stress. Okay, in the minute we have. left, Norway is playing in the World Cup. against Senegal, went to Times Square and did this. Watch. It's.

tens of thousands of them from the look. of it. doing the row. It's a vibrant display. ahead of their crucial game tonight. against Senegal at MetLife Stadium in. New Jersey. And they're pretending to row. It's like. a thing for Norway and it's amazing. They're so well organized. I love these. guys. I love the Canadians. I'm loving. all of our friends from across the pond. who have come over to celebrate the. World Cup. The United States is crushing.

the World Cup by the way and just in. terms of our host cities. and the displays that we're putting on. and I could not be happier to see our. friends from overseas coming over and. experiencing the best that America has. to offer, fully enjoying it and then. putting on displays like that. Honestly, it's like patriotic for them, it's kind. of patriotic for us, it reminds us who. our friends are and it's inspirational. to have that many people that well. organized in a place like Times Square. Times Square has never been that. beautiful other than on New Year's Eve. in its existence.

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