Ilhan Omar Raid Mystery, Alex Cooper's Past Exposed, Selma Blair's Plane Meltdown, and "Trans" Cult

Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome. to the Megan Kelly show and happy. Tuesday. Man, we have a lot to get to. today. It I don't know if you can see. this on my desk, but like the the piles. of stories that I want to go through and. they're all fascinating. I have to say. the news cycle is juicy, for lack of a. better term today. Um, in a little while. we're going to be joined by Andy No. He's an independent journalist. He's. going to talk about his new book on a. trans death cult. Probably haven't heard. about this in the mainstream media. Plus, uh, there is more to cover on the.

Cornell 8 case. We did a little dive. into the history of the sex podcaster. You know, the one who's so confused as. to how we could be in this place 10. years after me, too. And wait until you. hear what we have found. Honestly, it is. it is actually too graphic to air on a. show like this where we are not horrors. Um, we don't take money for.

X-rated talk to our audience, nor does. anybody tune into this program expecting. to hear such a thing. But I am going to. play you a couple of excerpts with a. viewer warning, and you absolutely need. to hide the children because I I have an. answer for this woman on how we got. here. And it it's going to require a. mirror for her and other leftists like. her who promote the most irresponsible. messaging possible to young women. And.

then when those young women fall into. trouble, they scram. They run for the. hills. And And who do they blame? Themselves? No. The men. All of the men. The men who believe these women are into. the threesomes or the foursomes or. whatever the hell else Alex Cooper has. been promoting for years now as she's. bolstered by people like Kla Harris and. Michelle Obama as some sort of a female.

empowerment example. I don't think so. The answer is no. Um, also today, President Trump's new press secretary. held her first very brief press. briefing. Didn't go particularly well, but it was fine. It was fine. The. mainstream press is completely hammering. this young woman, and they're just so. nasty. Th this same crowd that told us. that Karine Jean-Pierre was the second. coming, that she was basically Winston. Churchill, uh, is has now got thoughts.

on how the new press secretary isn't. quite up to snuff on her first 15. minutes in front of them at the mics. I. mean, could maybe we could give her like. 20 minutes. Could we give her 20 before. we pronounce her the worst ever and. incompetent and unable to do the job? I. don't know this gal. I don't know. whether she is unable to do the job. I. know 15 minutes is not enough to make an. assessment. And people are damn nasty. They're nasty because she's blonde. She's pretty. She's a Trump fan. You.

could say sick of fan. I would accept. that based on what I've read about her. I don't. Who cares? Do you think Kareem. Jean Pierre wasn't a sick fan about Joe. Biden? Please spare me. Um, she. absolutely was. Never mind. Jen Saki. Did Jen Saki ever tell us one word of. truth? No. She ran cover for Joe Biden. for all the time she was at that. lecture. And so I don't really want to. care hear it on these people who are. upset that this woman seems to be more. of a Trump fan than she does an. independent journalist. That's not how.

you get that job. You're not there to. tell the truth. Please stop it. Polyanas. You're there to spin the media. into reporting the best possible version. of the president's agenda that you can. get them to. And it's their job to be. defensive. against your manipulation and to press. you and to look for real answers for the. American. But that's how the system. works. But to stop stop, you know, getting your panties in a bunch because. it seems she's a huge fan of President.

Trump and has never said a bad word. about him. This president wouldn't hire. somebody for that position. Probably who. had. I mean, the reports are that that's. why it took a while because he kept. finding people who had been ripping on. him. I have trouble believing that to be. honest because JD Vance said some very. very negative things about President. Trump and he's the vice president under. Donald Trump. So I don't know but it. doesn't matter. Who cares? The point is. she needs a minute. She did seem. nervous. We'll talk about it. I'm going.

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That's MK to the number 989898. Do it. today. We are going to start today with Ilan. Omar because it appears to me that this. woman may be in some serious legal. trouble. And while the left would like. you to believe that this is just a witch. hunt, it's basically the equivalent of. the witch hunt that was unleashed on. Donald Trump, that is not true. Um, Ilan. Omar genuinely does appear to have. behaved in a way that may have crossed.

more than one line legally. And now we. are getting some more details about the. whole situation with the brother slash. husband. I mean, she had she had a. husband last name Elme Li, who she was. married to, at least in the eyes of the. law. The law may not have known that he. was her brother. She denies that he was. her brother. Is her brother. I don't.

think I believe her. I don't believe. her. Many people don't believe her. I. think she married her brother to get him. in here. uh and to avoid too much immigration. scrutiny. And if she did that, she. committed a felony. And she's in a lot. of lot of trouble. Lot of trouble. The. feds raided her home yesterday morning. in Washington DC, pulling documents and. who knows what else. Um, they did not. raid her home in Minnesota. We don't. know why. Could be they couldn't get a. judge to sign off on a warrant because. Minnesota.

Uh, or it could be some other reason. that I don't know. But they did raid the. home in Washington DC. And honestly, they can continue this farce for as long. as they want. But if this guy's her. brother, they're going to figure that. out. You tell me, if you were accused of. marrying your brother and committing. immigration fraud and you had not. married your brother, wouldn't you just. submit a DNA test? I mean, this isn't um. Breitbart calling and asking if she. married her brother. This is the federal.

government saying you committed. immigration fraud and you could you can. completely exonerate yourself if you. prove to us that wasn't your brother. You all you do is get a cheek a cheek. squab swab from him and from you. very. very simple. Any one of these DNA. companies. could do it. We won't need that because. we have the FBI in Quantico. They'll. figure it out in about two minutes. So, we are going to know if that's the basis. for this criminal probe. We are going to.

know and we are going to know quickly. and she will not be able to defend. if in fact she married her blood. relative and claimed he wasn't. Uh so. that's very interesting. Now, we have. pulled some of the facts around the, you. know, marriage to the guy who's. allegedly her brother. And I want to say. there's a couple of different things. here, okay? Because she also was. subjected to a campaign finance probe.

that began under Joe Biden. And we don't know whether this whole. thing relates to that. We just don't. know why the feds ra raided her house. Um, but. we're we're going to find out. And here. is what we know about the alleged. marriage to the brother. All right, we're going to go to the reporting of. Scott Johnson. He wrote for City.

Journal. Uh, and this is what he. reported. He said that this is years ago. where. did the marriage rumors originate from? And he reported the following. This is. the guy, as far as we can tell, who. broke this whole thing. Um, a posting on. Somali Spot discussion board alleged. that Omar had married the man touted as. her husband in 2002. before marrying her brother. We told you. about this yesterday. She had a.

religious ceremony in 2002 with this guy. whose last name was Hersy. And then she. had her three kids with him. But then. she had a legal civil ceremony to get. married. The first one wasn't valid in. the eyes of the law to this guy Elme ei. later. And Elme is the alleged brother. So there was this the religious ceremony. in 2002 to the guy who was the father of. would become the father of her three. children. Then in 2009, there was a.

legal civil ceremony to the guy we think. may be her brother. She denies, which I. mentioned. Um, the post that journalist. Scott Johnson saw on Somali Spot, which. he'd been tipped off to, he wrote, seems. to have been withdrawn by someone from. Minneapolis's Somali community. Not. withdrawn, written, but it was then. quickly deleted. By the time it came to. my attention, he writes the post was. only available via a Google cache. Also.

now deleted. Now, he said he reached out to uh the. Omar team to ask whether she had married. her brother and you know what the story. was. He submitted written questions to. representatives of the Omar campaign. citing the Somali spot posed and asking. whether her second marriage had been. entered into with her brother for. dishonest purposes, meaning to avoid the. immigration laws. That same afternoon, I. received a message from Omar's press. contact indicating the campaign would. get back to me, but didn't. But I did.

receive a response from a Minneapolis. criminal defense attorney, Jean Brle. It. provided no answer to my question and. implied that the question itself. evidenced bigotry against Omar and her. candidacy for public office. Now, honestly, it's very easy to answer this question. You you just say, "I didn't marry my. brother. I deny that." And if you print. that I married my brother, I'm going to. sue you for defamation. And you're going. to look very f foolish when I submit a. blood test proving that you lied and you.

behaved recklessly in printing this. Then that's what you would do if you. were wrongly accused of marrying your. brother. Isn't it? Anybody who printed. that you had married your brother would. be on the wrong end of a very very evil. angry I should say lawsuit claiming you. are evil and slapping you with a. multi-million dollar uh damages demand. That's never happened. She has not sued. anybody who has alleged this about her.

at least that we know of and it would. have made news. And as I pointed out to. you yesterday, when the Minneapolis Star. Tribune, which has been running cover. for Democrats for decades, especially. for Tim Walsh and his trans agenda, when. they took a deep dive into whether Ilan. Omar had married her brother in 2019, they published the following. Um, we. could find little publicly available. information about Elme. That's the.

brother, alleged brother. Uh the search. of records could neither conclusively. confirm nor rebut the allegation that he. is ill on Omar's sibling. Then they talk they wrote about trying. to reach Omar's spokesperson Jeremy. Sleven about the issue. They said he. issued a statement on Friday again this. is back in 2019 asserting that the. questions about her personal life are. illegitimate. Here we go again. What. happened to uh the reporter Scott.

Johnson? He was told by a defense. attorney sicked on him by the Omar. campaign that the question itself. evidenced bigotry against Omar. Now we. have the Minneapolis Star Tribune three. years later. That Scott uh Johnson. report was 2016. Now this is 2019 and. the Minneapolis Star Tribune's taking a. hard look. And what are they told? These. questions are illegitimate. Quote, "Since before she was elected to office, Ilon has been the subject of conspiracy. theories and false accusations about her.

personal life. Emboldened by a president. who openly treats immigrants, refugees, and Muslims as invaders, these attacks. often stem from the presumption that. Illan, like others who share these. identities, is somehow illegitimate or. not fully American.". Well, that's not exactly a denial. Um, but it is somebody pretending to be. super angry that you're even asking. Minneapolis Star Tribune. Um, the Star Tribune was not able to.

confirm or deny, dispute, disprove that. she had married her brother and did. point out uh that the Star Tribune had. had sought to authenticate some of the. most egregious allegations using public. records and available social media posts. uh and yet couldn't do it one way or the. other. Now, back to the report by Scott. Johnson. a few years earlier. He raises reporting by Alpha News. You.

guys remember Alpha News, right? They've. done great reporting in Minnesota. It's. a it's a Minnesota based news. organization that's more fair and. balanced. It's not in the tank for. Republicans, but it doesn't hate them. either and will do fair reporting on. conservative issues. You can trust them. And they were very, very fair when the. George Floyd thing happened. They were. honest about what happened at the police. precinct. I mean, they they've been. great. Alpha News is great. So, Alpha. News reported.

uh a woman named Preya Samsonar, she's a local reporter writing for. Alpha, this is as of 2016 in that Scott. Johnson report, had found information. suggesting that Elme is indeed her. brother. Quoting here, Omar's own. Instagram photos from the summer of 2015. place her in London. with relatives and with a man later. identified as Ahmed Nur say Elme. Soon after her marital history became an.

issue, however, Omar closed that. Instagram account to the public. When. the account became public again, the. reporter Sam Sundar found that the. original photo collage of Omar and Elme. was no longer there. Clearly, Omar had. taken it down. Some Samundar also discovered that. accounts once connected to Elme had. disappeared since the controversy over.

whether this guy was her brother began. Even LinkedIn pages and Elm's. professional portfolio pages have gone. missing. New accounts for Elme have. appeared under a different name and. without his identifying photo. Based on her reporting, Sam Sedar. believes that Omar's siblings include. Akmed Nur say Elme and Muhammad Nur. Sahed Elme, both residents now of the. United Kingdom. Their social media.

accounts have referred to Omar as their. sister. Samar found comments and posts. by Omar and Elme showing an intimate. relationship. Now, we don't know. I. don't think they mean sexual, like a. very close relationship. They appear to. mean even after their supposed marital. split. Sam Sindar put it to me this way, writes Scott Johnson. I think social. media proves without a doubt that there. is a familiar familial relationship that.

is not that of a husband and wife. So that's the story my friends um on. the husband/brother. and um the n by the way I should tell. you that the the man she married was. Ahmed Nur say Elme that's who she. married in 2009 Akmed Nur say Elme and. Sam Sindar the woman who writes for. Alpha News believes that her Omar's.

siblings include Akmed Nur say Elme and. Muhammad Nur Nur say Elme. There is an. Akmed Nured Elme who lives in the UK and. she reported that his social media. accounts referred to Omar as his sister. Okay. So she appears to have a brother. named Akmed. Nur say Elme. Oh, and also a husband by. that name. Oh, what? Whoops. Is Doug secretly named.

Pete Kelly? Okay, then. No, he's not my. brother. I'm good. This is so ridiculous. I mean, ridiculous in that it seems. quite clear she did it. And we've been. like screwing around with this, not not. doing anything about it for how many. years now. And now the left is all like, "This is horrid. The raid, it's the same. as the raid at Mara Lago. How dare they. harass her?" She married her. brother. That's how it looks. And broke. immigration laws, allegedly.

That's how they got the warrant, we. think. Now, it could be. a different matter, which I want to hit. on before we leave the subject of Ilan. Omar. The New York Times in January of this. year, 2026, reported the following, that Joe Biden's. DOJ opened an investigation into. Representative Ilan Omar in 2024 to. scrutinize her finances, campaign. spending, and interactions with a.

foreign citizen. The inquiry initiated by the US. attorney's office in Washington DC and. the department's public integrity unit. in June of 2024 appears to have stalled. for lack of evidence reported the times. This is again from January 2026. Or did. it did it stall for lack of evidence? truly query whether Joe Biden's DOJ was. thirsty to track down Ilan Omar's.

misdeeds in the way they were Donald. Trump's. The investigation appeared to be thrust. in into the public spotlight on Monday. when President Trump blindsided. department officials by posting about it. on Truth Social, singling out Miss Omar. It was part of a rambling statement. announcing a shakeup of the team. overseeing immigration raids in Miss. Omar's Minneapolis district that. misspelled her name. This is what Trump. had posted. The DOJ and Congress are. looking at Congresswoman Ilan Omar, who. left Somalia with nothing and is now. reportedly worth more than $44 million.

Time will tell all. It was not clear. whether Mr. Trump was referring to. another investigation altogether or how. he arrived at the $44 million figure. Uh, Republicans have threatened to open. an investigation in Omar in apparent. effort to tie her to the Minnesota fraud. scandal that has revealed evidence that. some members of the Somali community set. up companies that build state agencies. for social services that were never. provided. That's another possibility. I. mean, that's her community. Does she. have any role, some role what whatsoever.

in the Minnesota Somali fraud scandal? No idea. No evidence has yet been. produced showing that Ms. Omar was. connected to the fraud scheme, reported. the Times. A spokesperson for her office. said they had received no official. inquiries from the oversight committee. of the House or DOJ. So, there's that about, you know, could. there be a Somali. Somali connection to the Minnesota. community or you heard the reference to.

the 2024 I think what that 2024 case was. looking at. It could have been the. Somali thing because that that's been. going on for a while, though it wasn't. as well publicized until this past year. Or it could be something having to do. with actual campaign finances because. she was also accused, this is just the. third thing I'm going to tell you, of. misusing. um her campaign finance money.

uh to. resolve certain personal finance issues. like she used it to cover legal costs. from her divorce. from Elme. So, in other words, the. allegation in this Star Tribune piece in. 2019 was that um a Republican lawmaker. had accused her of using cash from her. state house campaign to cover legal. costs from her divorce from her brother, I mean her husband, Elme, a British.

national she had legally married in 29. The Minnesota Campaign Finance and. Public Disclosure Board cleared her in. the divorce case, but the probe. determined that campaign money was used. for unrelated legal services pertaining. to her joint tax filings with the other. husband, the one she had the three kids with. She. was ordered to reimburse 1,500 in legal. te fees and to correct her tax returns. So, here's where it stands. She was, it.

appears, credibly accused of misusing. campaign donations on private expenses. She had to pay a fee and she had to. revise her taxes. She was also under a. DOJ probe after the fact as of 2024. That was 2019. Was it related to this the Somali fraud. in Minnesota? We don't know. the New. York Times article and the Trump tweet. say, "Precious little." The next thing.

we know, we have a raid at her house in. Washington DC. And I've just refreshed. for you the reporting over the years. about whether it has to do with. immigration fraud. So, all of this is a. long way of telling you we don't know. what's going on, but do not believe the. people who are saying this is a Trump. witch hunt. This is a Trump. administration and Biden administration. witch hunt. And indeed, there may be a. witch. I I don't know. If she married.

her brother so he could become get here. uh lawfully and spend 5 years in the. United States without a visa, the proper. visa, she's going to be in trouble. She's going to be in trouble. And um we. remate we wait to see. what if anything they have. Here's Trump. who weighed in on it yesterday and. sought eight. >> Well, I understand they're looking at. her very carefully. Uh I've always found. her to be totally crooked personally, but that has nothing to do with me. I.

think she's a terrible person, just a. complainer. She comes from a country. that is a a non-country and then she. comes over here and she complains about. our constitution. I think she's a. terrible person, but that's really up to. the DOJ. I have nothing to do. Okay. So, we shall see. I believe he. didn't have anything to do with it. because um you know, he sent out that. tweet in January, but he's he's been. pretty quiet and I think President Trump.

is thinking about a lot of other things. right now. A lot of much bigger problems. than Ilan Omar. So, I am looking forward. to seeing how this how this concludes. because once and for all, we should know. we should know whether she married her. brother. Remember when Bernie Carrick. didn't get a top job in was it the Bush. administration because he had an illegal. working as a nanny allegedly or a. housekeeper for him. But you can marry.

your brother to get him into the country. for free and nobody cares. I mean like I. I think maybe people will care if that's. what happened here. Stand by. Have to. wait and see. Okay, moving on. Uh the. new press secretary is named Katie. Zakaria and uh she had her first outing. today. It didn't go particularly well. I'll tell you who she is. It wasn't a. disaster, but it wasn't like impressive. Um she is.

a communications adviser was to the. Trump Media and Technology Group, which. which runs his social network, Truth. Social. She uh worked briefly at. Department of Homeland Security as a. spokeswoman for then Secretary Christy. Gnome. She is the sixth press secretary. under President Trump if you count term. one and term two. She's the fifth woman. to hold the position. Our pal Sean. Spicer was the only guy to hold it uh. under Trump. Scaramucci was comm's. director, not press secretary.

And um I'll give you a little flavor for. how this went. This is This is what's. Can we play the first comments she said. when she got up there? De uh Deb, >> good morning. >> I am so honored to work for President. Trump and the American people as the new. White House press secretary. I want to thank President Trump for his.

trust that he has placed in me. I have wanted to work for him for a very. long time. I'm looking forward to working with each. of you as well, especially as we are in the middle of. the midterm blitz with energy and. excitement. never seen before in the history of. midterms thanks to President Trump. Okay. I mean, it was fine. Um, part of.

it is the look. You know, she's got very. heavy makeup on. She's got the long. curls. She's got some chest showing with. the tie. Like, I think she needs to dial. it back. I'm I'm just going to say like. I know she's auditioning for a job on. Fox News. They all are. Um, look at Dana. Parino. She was too. Like, it's it's. been a long line of Republican press. secretaries whose real goal is to wind. up on Fox News. I get it. But Roger Als. will be the first to tell you when you.

are in a job in which you need to be. taken seriously. You need to present as a serious person. And then I would say once she's earned. the respect of the public and the press. corps, she can s it up if she wants. She'll have a greater ability to do that. and to be taken seriously. But right. now, we don't know you. And your first. impressions are important, and you. should be the consmate professional in. your presentation, which means dialing. back the makeup, dialing back the over.

the top curls and the hair, and maybe. covering up covering up a little bit. more underneath that suit jacket. You're. not there to turn anybody on. You're. there to look like a professional. And. by the way, it's advice I've given to. other officials, cabinet officials and. others in the Trump administration. And. I think some of them took me advice and. were very well served by it. Um, obviously I have no problem with glam. makeup or hair. Not today. I don't. really have any. But um, in general, I.

have no problem with it. But I do think. you have to earn it. And she has she. hasn't yet. So dial it back. 20% less. makeup, the this the the sparkly. eyeshadow, like just dial it back. and. you'll get there with the American. people if you are smart and credible. Okay, so a little stumbly because she. was nervous which you could hear and. sought too. Second question for you if I may. A. personal question. Your family is in. California, your husband, you have four.

children. Um, I'm wondering how you. manage how are you going to manage that. Caroline Levit left because she wanted. to spend more time with her family and. also did she give you any advice on how. to handle this job and the people in. this room? >> Well, first of all, I want to give my. husband an amazing shout out. We have. four kids ranging from 12, 10, 8, and. six. Three of them are boys, so we have. a handful. And I adore my family. I love. them. They are my priority. They I I.

love being with my kids. the idea of not. spending evenings with my kid kids are. is completely uh unacceptable. So my. president, excuse me, my husband. Uh. that's a that's a good one. >> All right. So she's getting creamed for. that stumbling mess of an answer, but. she's nervous. She's not like and you. can make the case she shouldn't be the. press secretary then if she gets nervous. in front of the cameras, but she she'll. get there. Trust me. like talking live.

on camera is not as easy as it looks for. most people and she doesn't seem to have. a ton of experience doing it. I think. she was probably hired because she's. attractive and she must have done a. decent job behind the scenes at Truth. Social and Trump was favorably favorably. impressed by her. Um, and believe with. time she could get there, but she's. clearly not there yet. Give her some. time. You know, the thing that's really. ging me is the people who are most.

brutal toward her today are the very. same people who truly wanted us to. believe that Karine Jean-Pierre was one. of the great ortors of our time. Um, no, not true. And by the way, she never. grew into the job. Karine Jean Pierre. read from that stupid notebook every. time she got up there and could not. speak contemporane extemporaneously. And. let me tell you what this gal was doing.

today. Uh Katie, she was trying to. develop that skill. She did look down at. her notes a fair amount. That's fine. But she was trying to speak off the cuff. and she wasn't very good at it. But. she's going to get better. And the only. way to get better at speaking off the. cuff is to do it and stumble and maybe. sound a little silly the first few times. you've tried it. But if she is still at. this job a year from now, she's going to. be way better at it. And there's really.

no short, you know, shortcutting that. journey from A to Z. So, I wish her well. and I actually am very open-minded to. her improving and I think the mainstream. media should STFU. I mean, we literally. have Brian Steltter out there ripping. this girl. Would you please stop that? It's a miracle anybody ever let you on. TV at all. You know that you only got. put on TV because you wrote that stupid. newsletter that like wrote up people's. ratings and therefore you got some.

notice, but you know nothing. You were. you were never a doer. You were always a. watcher. You were always a sideline man. That's what's so sad about these media. critics. You've never done You've only. watched. You've got lots of criticism. from the cheap seats. and now he wants. to weigh in on the job she's doing as. press as White House press secretary. Please be quiet. Please be quiet. We'll. let you know when we want to hear from. you and it will probably have to do with. something completely other than a Trump. press secretary. No one wants to hear.

your opinions on her. Uh, all right. One. other thing. She did make some news. while she was standing up there today. Do we have the sound bite or no? No, we don't have it. Um she um she made. news that Kimberly Gilfoil has been. asked to step down as our ambassador to. Greece. Um it wasn't a huge surprise. You know, if you listen to AM update. this morning, you heard that President. Trump yesterday said, "I'm not happy.".

And when asked if he was going to tell. her if he was going to fire her, um are. you thinking about it? He said, "Yeah.". And so in on the heels of that we got. news today that uh via via Katie uh that. they had asked her to. Oh, we have it. now. Okay, let's watch it. >> We have asked Ambassador Gilfoil to. resign. She has been a wonderful asset to the. team and we wish her well.

There they go. So, they've asked her to. step down. And now we have the expost. by Kimberly that reads, "Stand by. Serving as United States ambassador to. Greece has been the honor of a lifetime. I'll forever be grateful to President. Donald J. Trump and Marco Rubio for. entrusting me with the extraordinary. privilege blah blah blah. From my first. day as ambassador, I've worked. tirelessly to advance Trump's agenda. Blah blah blah. We've done all these. wonderful things. I'm so proud of.

everything. These accomplishments are a. president a testament to the president's. bold leadership. All right, here we go. I also want to address the recent. allegations against me. They're false. And I intend to vigorously defend my. name, my reputation, my integrity. I've. dedicated my professional life to. fighting for justice, standing up for. what's right, and defending the values. that will make America exceptional. I. will not allow false accusations to. define my decade decades of public. service. Blah blah blah blah. Okay, it's. all, you know, puffery about Trump after. that. Now,

the alleg I mean, it's interesting that. she's acting like this is like a, you. know, a false sort of hit job on her, and it may be, but just for the record, it's the Wall Street Journal that has. broken virtually all the stories. The. Daily Mail broke at least one or two of. the big stories. Those are not left-wing. publications. And she's not being fired. by President Joe Biden. She's being. fired by President Donald Trump. Um the. people who are accusing her of behaving.

badly work for Trump's um embassy. in uh Greece and work for or or were. donors to Trump's campaign and our Trump. boosters. So, you know, that's what this. has come out of. And I I'm very. open-minded to her statement that she. didn't do any of this stuff, but we'll. have to see because right now there is. the possibility that Kimberly's not only. facing the loss of her position as. ambassador, but she could she could.

potentially be in some criminal trouble. here if if the allegations against her. are true. And again, she's denying them. So, we again reported on this this. morning, but I'm just going to give. those of you who didn't hear AM update, which you should totally be tuning into. It's a 15minute 19minute uh news update. show that we put out every morning. Get. you up to date on the day's news. Here. is what they are reporting. Okay, first. it started with this guy Deers.

This guy Deers is uh a Trump donor. He's. a former congressional candidate who did. not win. and um he ran in Kentucky and got into. the orbit of Kimberly Gilfoil and. possibly some of the Trumps and appears. to have been trying to. worm his way closer to President Trump. through Kimberly. The allegations broken. by the Wall Street Journal on um October.

7th include. an alleged signal exchange in which she. was about to testify for her. confirmation hearing as ambassador and. she didn't. They probe everything. They. they look at when you're when you're. nominated for a post like this, they. will look at your finances. They will. make sure you know there's nothing. anybody can use to blackmail you, that. kind of thing. And apparently she had. some debts that she wanted off of the. books, reports the journal. and she went. to at least this guy Deers to say, "Please go pay off my AMX to the tune of.

$100,000. Um, do it directly. You can here's the. here's my MX number and the address and. I'm begging you to go pay $100,000 to. them for me." He said no. and she was. reportedly allegedly, according to the. Wall Street Journal, promising to set. him up with connections, bragging about. how all of the cabinet secretaries take. her calls and that she she could. basically have access to any one of them.

and this would be worth deer's while. He. reports the journal didn't do it, saying. I'll have to get a divorce. He told her. it would cost him his marriage. Quote, I. can't do this without getting a divorce. The reporting was that she was getting. ready for that hearing and that what she. said to him was quote, "Honey, please. I. need you to get this done for me today. You could just send it here." She wrote. on July 3rd, 2025, just days before her. July 9th confirmation hearing. Deers. didn't do it. For months she had been.

chatting with Deers reports the journal. um seeking he'd been seeking her help. and getting the administration to help. him on some personal tax and legal. issues. And he had promised Gilfoil. payments of as much as $1 million if she. was successful in helping him resolve. these issues with the administration. figures. Deer said Gilffile told him if. he came up with the MX money, quote, "I.

will be your Trump ride or die forever. and ever." End quote. But he said she. never came through on anything. A lawyer. for Gilfoil disputed the authenticity of. the messages, but declined to provide. specifics. He said she had been paid to. speak at events before her nomination. and was owed a balance. Deeders said. that is a lie. He owed Gail Foil. nothing. She was seeking a favor from. him. in exchange for. um access that she was promising him to.

the admin. Uh Deer said his dealings. with Gilfoil began in 2020 when he. launched an event called Freedom Fest in. Kentucky in response to the CO 19. medical mandates. At that point and and. in the years thereafter, he paid her. $300,000 to speak. He had also given. 200,000 to Trump Jr. 100,000 to Eric. Trump and others. Her interactions with. deers grew more frequent in the months. after she was nominated as ambassador. She promised to lobby top Trump.

officials from FBI director Cash Patel. to AG Pam Bondi. Quote, "Every secretary. you know you know of. defense, transportation treasury, commerce, IRS commissioner, everyone. gets right back to me," she wrote before. adding the FBI director his name. misspelled writes the journal. Oh yeah, I'm forgetting Cash Patel. Gulfoil also. expressed concern about her dealings. with deers becoming public and the. effect that that might have on her. ambassador post. She warned him.

repeatedly to not commit talk of money. or payments to text. Eric, quote, I. really wish you would stop papering all. these things. End quote. Just call me on. Signal. In January 2025, weeks after the. nomination, she complained that Deeders. had told a producer on her podcast about. their deal. quote, "It's unbelievable. when we have a private arrangement with. you that you would now CC a producer. talking about money." She said, "Do not. say we have any arrangement." She added, quote, "What a nightmare. You will. literally cost me my ambassadorship.

Stop writing.". As her confirmation hearing approached, Gail foil complained to friends that she. was broke. People familiar with the. matter wrote. Um, last March, when Deeders inquired. about when she would move to Greece, Gilfoil told him to stop asking. quote, "I have a lot of to get done before. then and I need to make money." Later. that spring, she began requesting. additional payments from Deers, writes. the Journal, asking him to draft a. letter saying he owed her two $50,000. back payments for consulting services.

That's what Deeders told the Journal. Quote, "She was worried about legality. She was worried about the appearances of. it.". Then there was a report that there were. two Greek business magnets who whose. businesses she had promoted. And the question is why would an. American ambassador to Greece be. promoting the business interests of some. Greek magnet? And the allegation is that. she did that because one gave her a. private jet ride to Paris and one gave.

her a private jet ride someplace else. maybe I can't remember Dubai but the one. in Paris and then that the one allegedly. paid for her um hotel stay uh is it her. hotel stay at George I the sank George V. which is the fourth season four season. uh hotel in Paris. Now, all of this. again, she has been denied. You heard. her touting her qualifications. Uh, but. there is reportedly a um an inspector.

general investigation into Kimberly. Gilfoil right now. And um that's. problematic. That's problematic for her. Inspector General of the Department of. State, so like the internal watchdog. The Daily Mail's reporting was more. about alleged mistreatment of staff at. the embassy. They report that three. sources told them the IG is looking into. allegations surrounding her potential. substance abuse, use of private planes. and helicopters, close relationship with.

an energy and construction company, improper gift acceptance, and more. The. official IG probe was launched after. internal complaints within the US. embassy escalated to a breaking point. Sources in Greece tell the Daily Mail. there was a toxic workplace climate. They allege that she's had workplace. outbursts according to sources. I mean, I don't know about any of these. This is. like they've got a quote in there that. she she threatened some embassy workers. get it done or you're. fired. Well, I mean, so maybe they. weren't getting done. Like that.

that doesn't persuade me at all. And. honestly, whenever there's a female boss. involved, you're going to get a you're. going to get an article about how it's a. toxic workplace. They don't do this. to the men. They really genuinely don't. Doesn't mean she's not she's not capable. of creating a toxic workplace. I'm not. saying I'm just I just it is a pattern. so take it for what it's worth. Um in. any event, there was a report that she. had abused her security detail, a. grandfather who was sleeping and she was. drinking at 4 in the morning and she.

wanted him to come get her. He didn't. respond because he was asleep. The Daily. Mail reports next day she demoted him. Her alleged early morning request was. quote to fetch more ice cubes. This is. what they are alleging in the mail. All. right, look. Here's what's really. happening here. She may or may not have. done these things. I have no idea. The. I'll wait to see what the OG says or the. IG says. But the problem is when stories. like this break in a cascade around any. cabinet official, which she's not, or. ambassador, which is a privileged.

position usually given to massive donors. to a campaign. I think we all know how. this one came about, which wasn't. exactly donations, but she was with. Trump Jr. They were breaking up. She was. with the Trump family for a very long. time, very intimately at many, many. private gatherings. And the next thing. we knew, she was offloaded to the. ambassadorship and Don Jr. moved on with. his life and later married and fell in. love with a lovely woman named Betatina.

Anderson. Um, now Trump. In any event, you cannot become a headache for the. president. That's the bottom line. Any. official who's in the cabinet or in the. administration in any way, whether even. if it's an ambassadorship, but. especially of an ambassadorship, which. is just like a plum job you give to big. donors, certainly don't want them to. become a problem for you. It's like what. do you like? At least a cabinet official. is actually working for you. The. ambassadors, I mean, we all pretend. they're doing something important, but. we know what this really is. This is a. boondoggle. Um,

and she has been like I'm not sure this. guy Deers seems very pissed off. He. created a bunch of problems for her and. then once the dam is broken, Bob's your. uncle. Everybody starts coming out of. the woodwork. If if you've ever had a. negative experience with them. Um, so I. look forward to hearing what she has to. say about it. My experience with. Kimberly Gilfoil is she's a survivor. She is a survivor. She's very clever, smart gal. And um I think if you were.

smart, you'd be betting for her to land. on her feet. We'll have to wait and. watch it. Now, as long as we are in the. lane of media personalities becoming. public officials, I've been meaning to. get to this. It was a podcast called. Uncloauseted, and Don Lemon went on it within the past. two weeks and said the following. S 18. Look, I I I never say never. Um, it is.

Look, I've got a lot on my plate right. now doing what I'm doing. This is not. easy to do every day, but I I have to be. I'm I am very aware of the importance of. what I'm doing, what it means to the. culture and society. Um, I shouldn't say. very, sometimes I'm too close to it, but. when I'm out there, people are like, "Thank you for what you're doing." Uh, and so it and it's very humbling. But I. when I'm out there, they're not only. saying, "Thank you for what I'm doing.". They say, "Did you ever would you ever. consider running for office?" and and I. say, "Well, you know, I thought about it. and this would you ever run for. president?" And I said, "Oh, well,

definitely I think I could be a better. president than Donald Trump." So, that's. where that came from. Um, how serious is. it? If the people want me, I'll do it. But if that's the best way for me to. help the American people, then sure, I'll do it. And maybe, you know, maybe I. can do them at the same time. And maybe. that maybe that's a way of running that. has not been um mined. Let me try and. get a headline out of you. What. percentage chance before you leave this. earth do you think you will run for. president? >> Oh, what percentage chance that I think. I'll run?

>> 6570. >> Wow. >> Okay, I'm going to shock you. I think he. should do it. I actually think he should. do it. First of all, there it's not a. dealbreaker that he has spent his life. as a journalist. I mean, you could. absolutely parlay that into a career in. public service. Second of all, do you. really think Kla Harris is a lot smarter. than Don Lemon? Do do you I know she was.

at least a lawyer. She was an attorney. general for the state of California. No, I I don't believe so. I do. You think. Joe Biden was? I I don't like I Are we. so enamored with our public officials. now, we don't think somebody like Don. Lemon could do it? I honestly I I I'm. not I actually think yeah he he could. match wits against AOC just fine. He he. could and um will he do it from his you. know podcasting booth? That would be.

interesting to watch. All I can say is. it would certainly give us a lot to talk. about. So I encourage him and I'm. rooting for him. He doesn't actually. think he's going to win, however, because well, he explains here on ST 19. >> Because I think that America is ready. for a gay president or or a gay black. president. But do I think, as you ask me. if I'm going to run, do I think that it. is the right time for that person to. emerge and run? I'm not so sure about.

that considering what is on the line. I. know the homophobia in this country. I. know the racism in this country because. I live it every single day. I don't have. the privilege of being a white man. People will say, "If I just had the. confidence. >> uh of an unqualified white man, I could. rule the world.". >> So, so um yeah, of course, I think that they. America would accept that and could be, but I don't know if it's the moment to. do it.

So the country is not too racist and. homophobic except for the fact that they. are too racist and homophobic so he. can't. So that's where we are. He um. thinks the country is homophobic and. racist even though it has made him a. multi-millionaire. He was at the helm of. CNN for many many years. Um he's married. a you know a white guy but it's all you. know has a lot of envy and anger and. resentment toward white men.

Because I guess Don Lemon's life didn't. work out the way he thought it would. I. would I would submit it's surpassed his. wildest dreams that he had as a as a. child. But much in the way that Michelle. Obama will never give up her grievances, neither will Don Lemon. So Sunny Host, Michelle Obama, and Don Lemon all in the. same category of having received amazing. gifts and nope, still bitter. Okay, coming right back.

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four had sex with her. They all say it. was voluntary and that she initiated it. with the last two. Uh she as well counts. as one of the eight because she's been. accused by the first male defendant of. felating him while he was in and out of. consciousness which she seems to admit. Not that she was actively performing. oral sex on him at the moment, but that. in their bout in the bed together, he. could not keep his eyes open, he. continued to fall in and out of. consciousness as she was having an.

interlude with him. Um, there's a new. report out today via TMZ citing one of. the roommates who lived in the room in. which the trrist took place. We don't. know his name and he's not one of the. defendants. So, this actually is new. information. He and his girlfriend were. apparently trying to get into that room. on the night in question and were. eyewitnesses to the state of Jane Doe. And so it is interesting to hear what.

they had to say when the university. began investigating this case at. Cornell. They testified that she was. coherent, Jane Doe was, when she was in. the room, that she did not look to be in. distress when she exited that same room. in the wee hours of the morning. overnight from October 19th to 20th, 2024. Um they also testified to this is. Jonathan Newell is defendant number two, the one who wrote the vile Snapchat post.

about free you know what. And he was. part of the first threesome and the. second threesome and was blitzed out of. his mind which is probably why he was. tweeting things like he was not tweeting. but posting on Snapchat. Um but he was. the one who was dry heaving and couldn't. really he wasn't doing very well on that. first trrist. he he was able to perform, but he was very sick. And um she. testified, she told the police that he. was dry heaving and that she was rubbing. his back. Well, now we hear from his um.

roommate that when he went into his own. room, Jane Doe was inside with Newell. who appeared to be vomiting into a bowl. or a bucket. He said Do repeatedly told. him everything was fine and she was. taking care of Newell. He says he felt. like Do was pushing him out of the. doorway and not allowing him to enter. his own room. She is now alleging even. that interlude was rape. A guy came in, a roommate, and her alleged rapist is.

bent over vomiting into a bucket and she. tells this new guy everything's fine. She's taking care of Newell and she's. basically pushing him out of the room. I. mean, truly, this woman wants us to. believe that this guy was raping her and. this is what she did when somebody. stepped in, a roommate who had nothing. to do with this and has not been accused. in any way in this case. That's his. testimonial. Completely innocent of. anything other than walking in and. seeing her and being told basically to. get out, that she's got it, that she's.

taking care of Newell, who is clearly. physically incapacitated or close to it. Not physically helpless. That's the. standard. physically helpless is what. she has to prove in order to show that. this was rape of her. She's not there. now with guy number one who was passed. out. You're you're there. Um this guy. was just vomiting into a bowl. Her. alleged rapist and she looked at the. entering second roommate and said, "Everything's fine. Everything is fine.". Repeatedly, he said, "And now I'm taking.

care of him." This is crazy, you guys. Um the next time he encountered her, multiple people were inside the room. He. says she was fully clothed, lying in a. bed and conversing with the other. individuals in the room very clearly. He. says she appeared to be speaking very. coherently and on a 1 through 10 scale. of intoxication she was between a one. and a two. Now whether she was or she. wasn't, we know that she'd been doing. some ketamine. All we really know is. that she did at least according to her. one line of ketamine off of this guy new.

unit. Um the first bout of ketamine she. claimed to remember in trrist number one. prior to that is disputed and there may. have been a a third or if you know you. go by the guy's count a second line of. ketamine later in the evening. In any. event um he finally told them all to get. out. He wanted the room for himself and. uh he did tell the police that he left. the house uh with Jillio Lopes. That's.

the third man with whom she had sex last. night and his girlfriend. They went to. McDonald's. When they got back, the room. was empty. He heard several of his frat. brothers the next morning when he woke. up involved in what he called um. in what the DJ the they're refer. referring to the roommate as the DJ. Um. what he called a consensual act act. The. cops asked him what he meant by. consensual. elaborated that all four of. the guys that had sex with her all. admitted to having consensual sex with.

Do. As for why the fraternity brothers. felt it necessary to characterize sex. with Doe as consensual hours after the. party, well, that's unclear, reports. TMZ. Let me clear it up for you. They. were talking to police officers. Why. would the police officers be asking you. about your sexual interlude unless they. were querying whether it was consensual? This like doesn't take a damn rocket. scientist. He told police do never gave off a vibe. that she wanted to leave the party at. any point he saw her during the night. and he saw her fairly late. The other.

witnesses, the DJ's girlfriend, also. spoke to investigators. um on December 17th, over a month after. Doe first went to the police. She said. the girlfriend when she got to the. fraternity house after the McDonald's. run, there were frat bros standing. outside the room wondering what was. going on inside. She was confused when. she saw people were going in and out. She told police she thought it didn't. sound like something good happening. inside. She said someone, presumably her. girlfriend, told everyone to leave, she. saw dough exit with four or five guys.

Recall before the third interlude, some. of the guys took her to another room. She said two guys. She said it was scary. because she didn't realize how many men. were with Do. But she said Do not look. distressed. Do did not look distressed. The co-ed. told cops she was not concerned about Do. that that night. She said her feelings. changed as she heard more about Do's. account and then she felt kind of guilty. for not helping her. She told cops there. was no way of knowing something may have. been a miss because Do said the men were.

in the who were in the room with her all. looked very calm. Sorry. She said Do and. the men all looked very calm as they. left, adding it seemed consensual. because no one looked visibly. distressed. Just another piece of the. testimony that is likely to come in. about Jane Doe and how she was nowhere. near physically helpless, which is the. only way she can prove rape.

Physical helplessness. If you are. intoxicated or high out of your mind, you cannot say, "I c I was incapable of. consenting." If you are the reason you. were that intoxicated, you can't. we've. made a policy decision in New York State. to not put male partners in that. position or they then have to go back. and relitigate consent that they did. obtain from a drunk partner who then. after the fact wants to say I didn't. give consent cuz I was drunk. No, we've.

decided as many other states have in New. York that if you are voluntarily. intoxicated you will not be able to. raise lack of consent due to. intoxication. However, New York and all these other states will. say if your voluntary intoxication has. gotten to the point of physical. helplessness, you're back in business. So, that is the only way Jane Doe can. prove rape. And this is the testimonial. of independent witnesses like somebody's. girlfriend who says she seemed fine. She. didn't seem in distress at all way into.

the evening when she left that room. It. was in between trrists two and three. She didn't she seemed fine. The male uh. roommate said she looked like she was. maybe a one or a two on the scale of. drunkenness. She was totally coherent. and not in distress. And by the way, contrast that with Jonathan Newell who. is vomiting into a bucket and she is. shoeing people out of the room saying, "Get out. I'm taking care of him." Okay, this is not a rape victim. Um,

we raised the issue of the show Caller. Daddy yesterday, which is a disgusting, filthy podcast where this woman has. gotten rich acting like a prostitute, talking about x-rated acts. I played you. some of the sound bites yesterday, giggling that 11-year-old girls were. listening um to her talking about giving. and making it very clear that. if you are unattractive in Alex Cooper's. eyes, you need to give more aggressive. If you're only a five or a six. in Alex Cooper's judgment, you need to.

make an absolute pig out of yourself. That's her advice to young women. This. is the woman we're now looking to for. female empowerment with Michelle Obama. and Kla Harris and um Haley Bieber. Uh. many many well-known A-list celebrities. go on there to be cool and it look like. they're going to have like the cool girl. conversation and now she's the voice of. a generation because she wants to talk. about how you should swallow a man's. semen. That's the level of conversation. she has brought into the public debate.

Um, it is worse than even we knew. because let me just show you something. Okay, she had on she had the nerve the. nerve to weigh in on the Cornell 7. All. I want to hear from Alex Cooper about. the Cornell 7 8 is she's sorry. I would. like to hear an apology from her for. leading God knows how many young. American women down the lane that Jane. Doe went into thinking that runchy, disgusting, immoral, nasty behavior is. going to make them feel better about. themselves instead of worse. Because.

there's no one more directly responsible. for filling young women's heads with. that kind of nonsense in this generation. than this woman who hosts this podcast. In my generation, it was Sex in the City. and Carrie Bradshaw, Sarah Jessica. Parker and that whole thing. But in this. generation, Gen Z and and millennials. were dealing with this woman. And. she had the nerve to weigh in on the. Cornell case by having on this absurd. absurd Cornell professor who fancies. herself an expert in misogyny and push.

the lie about more than a third. 30% of women on Cornell campuses have. been raped. These are lies are not true. Again, as Heather McDonald pointed out, the Detroit o the Detroit overall crime. rate was 2.4% not many years ago for for. everything. Murders, carjackings, robberies, you name it. What are the. odds that on Cornell an Ivy League. university in just rapes alone were at. 35%. These are lies. Okay, they pushed. the lies, of course. I mean, you're not. going to go there for facts unless.

you're an idiot. But the fact that she. had the nerve to weigh in on it is what. really got my goat. And here is one of. the exchanges that I found infuriating. Sat 25. >> It has been almost a decade since the Me. Too movement first started. A decade. How the hell are we still here? >> Right? We have been talking about campus. rape, consent, the way institutions fail. women for even longer than that. We've. got the language. We have the research. We have the tools and the resources to.

understand sexual violence, to help. survivors, and to prevent it from. happening. And yet, we are still having. the exact same conversations. It is. exhausting and more importantly, it is. infuriating. More than one in five women. have experienced rape. One in five. women. So, every single one of us knows. a Jane Doe. Many of us are Jane Doe.

>> Okay. She's not a Jane. As I said. yesterday, she she she's a Jane Hoe. Um. she's a trainho. Uh this is a. performance that we're witnessing here. because for this woman to look into the. camera and say, "How did we get here? How are we here?". is such a farcical job of acting. she. should be considered in the next Golden. Globes nomination. Let me tell you how.

we got here, sweetheart. And I this is where my viewer warning is. coming. Please legitimately remove the. children. Do not let them hear this next. soundbite. And I apologize to you in. advance for playing it on my show. We. have never played anything this fil this. filthy. I hope never to play anything. this filthy again. I don't listen to. this kind of thing. I know you don't. either. This is not my idea of. entertainment. I am playing this to show. you who this woman is. All right? Do not. let your daughter listen to her. This.

person should not be a thought leader in. any way, shape, or form. She is part of the reason we have young. women so confused about how to behave, what's going to make them feel sexy, what's good for their ego, their bodies, their minds, and their spirits. She is. as guilty as they come when it comes to. corrupting the minds of these young. women and leading them down the path to.

hell. That is truly what she's guilty. of. So again, please forgive me for the. clip. It is incredibly disgusting. But. Alex Cooper on her show not so long ago, it was 2019, had a little chat with her then co-host. about. a night of group sex that her friend. engaged in. This is her male friend that.

she celebrated like it was Christmas. morning. And it sounded very similar to. what just happened to Jane Doe. very similar. Take a listen. >> Basically, Mil Hunter was dping this. girl with his friend. And if you guys. again don't know what a DP is, double. penetration in the in the butt and in. the. >> or could be the mouth. >> We don't I mean, I think it really does. have to be the butt and the V,

>> whatever. >> Or two in the V or two in the butt. >> He's like, "All right, I texted this. girl and I said like, "Hey, what are you. doing tonight?" She's like, "Fucking. you." He's like, "Well, if you want to. come over, you need I want to know make sure you're. down to have fun with me and in all. caps, Josh." And she was like, "Absolutely. I'm on my way. >> My I'm my mouth, my jaw is Josh.". >> She's like, "Here we go. >> My holes are ready." This girl obviously. knows what she's doing. She gets down,

>> takes his dick out, it's soft, and. literally sucks it hard. Josh doesn't. know when to come in cuz I don't think. Josh has ever done this. Okay, >> so Mil Hunter gets on his goddamn. phone and texts him and goes, >> "Take out your dick and put it in her. pussy." So his friend Josh comes. on over, takes his pants off, and just. starts railing this from behind. They're all They're They're. switching positions. And all of a. sudden, their phones are blowing up. Their buddy.

>> Uhhuh. >> is texting them in all caps saying, "I'm. ready. I'm ready. Tag me in. Tag me in. >> Classic. >> He is outside with his pants down. jacking off to porn on his phone asking. if she can take more. And he said at. this point, this girl had been taking it. for so long. Mascara was on the hardwood. floor. Like this girl was taking deep. throats to the back of the. throat, guzzling both men's And she. literally looks up at him with dick in. her mouth and she was like, "Yes." So.

the other roommate gets in after. male ex comes and he sits down and. starts getting his dicks up. She is a pig. Th This is a disgusting filthy pig. And now she wants to lead a discussion. about how we got here. We got here. thanks to you and your filthy pig mouth. That's how we got here. You.

unfortunately became very influential. and very rich off of that disgusting. talk. That's what you are to me. That's what you sound like in my. opinion. You're a complete poor. prostitute. Nobody with an ounce of. class in their body would ever talk like. that on a show listened to by by young. women. Not to mention the 11year-old you. were perfectly comfortable with from the. sound of it knowing she was out there. Oh, baby girl, don't listen. Oh, so fun. Keep it chummy. That's her celebrating a night of.

debauchery that sounds nearly identical. to what happened to Jane Doe. Nearly. identical only, you know, in in this. case, uh, we have multiple texts from. Jane Doe after the fact reaffirming. consent and how much she enjoyed it and. that she loved at least two of the. participants and that sex and sexuality. were changing and people were going to. have to get used to it and people think. I'm a Unfortunately, it's true. He. he that we I don't know that there was. any of that in the other case. And yes, this Jane Doe did eventually allege that.

it was not consensual, but there was a. mountain is a mountain of evidence. showing otherwise, which you failed to. discuss on your little show asking, "How. did we get here? How did we get here?". None of the exonerating information, only the condemnation of men, only the. fake meto victimhood that you want your. audience to think you feel that you're. an empath to. Please spare me. And it. was not a one-off. Here's another one.

2020. Take a listen to Alex Cooper. there. Stop 29. >> I have a really random. thought for you. >> about threesomes. Oh yeah. >> And foresomes. This is so strange. Okay. >> I have been in relationships before. where I'm like, I will never have a. threesome with you. I will never have a. foresome with you. Get it the out. of my face because I was just too much. in the relationship too far down. I'm at. a weird place right now and I have never.

in my life really thought about this. I've had a threesome before. I've never. had a foresome with this new guy. He's. so sexual and we've had conversations. about like it's the first real. relationship that I've been so like. sexually pushing the limits like he. pushes me to the limits and he's like. would like I want to do everything with. you. >> because it makes me even if we do. that's wild like you like whatever it is. I it makes us closer and he was like it. could be hot like if we're like out one.

night and we you go pick someone up and. then like we bring them back and I've. been thinking about it it's early enough. in the relationship that if it's ever. going to happen, it would have to be. now. >> So, you should do a threesome and you. should do it early in the relationship. Got it? And maybe not a foresome. And. where did Jane do draw the line that. night? Anyone remember? She didn't want. to do the foresome, but she was game for. the threesome. She explicitly, by her. own words, said yes to that. And here's.

this one. How did we get here? How could. we possibly be in this place? She's. spent years promoting these exact. choices to a generation. Your daughters. And at one point, I'm sure she'd love to. get mine. Too bad. Um, this isn't the. only time. Here's another one. This is. from 2019 with her co-host Sophia Sat. 31. I don't know if I'd rather like a. Megan Fox situation or if I want like a.

real freak who's like a six. I mean, I. think I don't know. They're both. >> Listen, I think if you're gonna try the. three smell, go for both and see which. is your cup of tea. >> Honestly, just try them both out. Anyways, go for some. That's what we're. trying to say. a threesome. It's. for a forsome these days. >> It's so fun, so joyous to talk about our. wonderful threesomes and foresomes. Such. a good time. And not just that, now. she's graduated into she wants to be the. new Howard Stern, you know, getting the.

big celebrity interviews, crossing over. into legitimacy and hoping that we will. forget about her disgusting sex worker. past. That's what she is to me. How is. it different? A a sex worker gets paid. to get men off. How is this different? She gets paid to talk dirty X-rated. talk, which she knows exactly how that's. going to be received by at least half. the population. It's So now she wants to be legitimate.

and interview Kla Harris. By the way, it. was all about abortion and how we need. to keep it, you know, accessible on demand to every woman who. wants it. Um, and she manages to get uh. the chain smokers in there of the band, the chain smokers, the two guys, two. lead guys. and take a listen to her. exchange with them. This was just a. couple years ago. 2023, stop 30. >> How often do people propose threesomes. with the two of you? And how often have. you accept it?

>> Get out of my head. >> This is up to you to answer. >> I don't want to answer this question. >> It's caller daddy. >> How often is it proposed? >> It's not proposed a lot. >> Seldom. Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's a lot of man for It's a. lot of man. >> But it's happened. >> Does it count if it's internationally?

>> I'm so proud of you guys. Was it What. did you look at each other differently. that morning? >> The first time. >> all the times. >> I think we were just like, "What the. just happened cuz like it wasn't like a. they were never planned. You know what I. mean? It was always like. >> just like I don't know what is happening. right now but like I'm also just like. >> I don't know where's that. It's weird. I'm not going to lie. I don't know like. how. >> like that's how three sentence happen. though. Yeah. >> In anyway. >> Absolutely. It's usually this just.

starts. Oh, it's Oh, that Okay, I guess. we're doing that. >> I'm so proud of you. She said, "So proud. of you for your threesome." So the chain. smokers are disgusting pigs, too. Good. to know. Uh, she's so proud of them. So. proud. That's who wants to lead the. conversation on Jane Doe and how we got. here without taking one second to take. some accountability for her. irresponsible messaging to the women of.

America. Shame on this woman. Shame on. her. And here's the capper. Guess who's following Alex Cooper's. personal Instagram page? Yeah, you got it. Jane Doe. Jane Doe, who clearly. was influenced by this woman and her. disgusting, boneheaded messaging about what would.

make a young woman feel sexy, feel good, feel empowered, what would gain you the. approval, the the pride of Alex Cooper, what kind of behavior is fun and. celebratory and normal. That story, the. first story that we played, the only. reason I played such a filthy thing on. the Megan Kelly show, which we have. never done something this disgusting. before, is because it matches up nearly. identically with what happened at.

Cornell University and Jane Doe, who. follows Alex Cooper's personal. Instagram. Jane Doe got in trouble that night. because of Jane Doe's own choices. It's. not Alex Cooper's fault, but she is influencing a generation of. young women to make terrible, terrible. choices for themselves. To me, it has the it has the same air as. someone who's had three abortions, who.

is the most pro-choice advocate you ever. meet in your life. And some of these. women who are the most ardently. pro-choice truly there should be a a a. moniker underneath their card name that. reads, "I feel terrible about myself and. I want you to as well. I've made. terrible life choices and I'll feel. better about them if more women make. them. I won't be such an outlier.". That's what's going on here. That's.

clearly what's happening. Obviously, this woman has made some very dark. choices in her personal life. And she, I. think, would love to see others make the. same choices and somehow feel validated. by that and somehow feel that instead of. being just a disgusting she's. leading some sort of a sexual revolution. where it is totally fine to give up anal. on the first date. You we played you. that sound bite before. And not only. that, but if you want to do it with four. men or three who are strangers and you.

know, just keep picking them up one. after the other, you go for it, girl. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of. you. I'm disgusted by this person. Cannot believe that she has risen to. such prominence in the national. conversation. And shame on anyone who. goes on that show and helps promote her. Shame on you. And by the way, we'll be. calling you all out by name. Um, this is.

a this is the whole thing is a disaster. She's a disaster. Jane Doe is a. disaster. This case is a disaster. The. media coverage of it has been a. disaster. Thank God for TMZ, by the way, which is one of the only ones reporting. honestly on this. Unlike CBS New York. and the New York Times, which appear to. be hiding portions of text messages that. say our bodies, our choice, they didn't. want us to know that. that she herself, Jane Doe had referred to it as a gang. bang, not a gang rape in her text. message and so on. The whole thing is a. disaster. Please keep your eyes on True.

North. Go to church. Raise a godly. family. Stay in touch with Jesus. Read. the Bible. Remind yourself that there is. morality. There's right and there's. wrong in this world. There's a way of. enjoying sex to the fullest. 10 out of. 10 in a loving, caring relationship. where you can trust the other partner. and they trust you too. Like what's. happening here is something that is sent. to us by the devil. I genuinely believe. that. I I I believe this is the devil's. forces at work on us. And it it needs to.

be called out. You know, it's like I. feel like St. Michael is here trying to. protect us against the wickedness and. snares of the devil. And I see it there. I see it so clearly that that a person. like this would rise to such influence. and have the ear of such so many. vulnerable, clueless young women who. think somehow this is going to be fun. and empowering and a good time and they. wind up feeling absolutely disgusting. about themselves. The truest thing that. was written in all the Jane Doe texts. and exchanges of testimony that we've.

read was the bit where she said she'd. been up all night crying. that I believe that she had been up all. night crying shortly after this event. happened. I don't believe Jane Doe was. proud of what she did. I don't believe. Jane Doe, had she not decided to call. this a rape, ever would have done this. again. I don't think Jane Doe would have. continued telling other young women that. somehow this was empowering and that. being a is a laughable matter. I think what happened was she felt. absolutely disgusting about herself and. she had enough co-eds in her ear telling.

her she was raped and then got wind that. she wasn't going to be able to go to the. Ki Halloween party and that they'd been. talking about her in disgusting ways on. that Snapchat exchange board and that. was that her own personal narrative. changed and then those boys' lives. changed forever. It's very tragic. There. is still time for her to withdraw this. money grab civil complaint to stand down. on the absurd new criminal push. There.

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by RNNA.com or your local sportsman's. warehouse. Visit now and be prepared to. defend. There's another young woman in trouble. today for very, very different reasons. And her name is Selma Blair. She, of. course, is a famous actress who has. starred in quite a few movies. You may. know her best from her stint in Legally. Blonde. Um, if you're my age, it goes. way back. She's done a lot more than. just that. Um, hold on a I want to pull make sure I. have it in front of me.

Okay. She is 54 years old. She grew up. in Michigan. Cruel Intentions, 1999. That was the movie with Sarah Michelle. Geller that a lot of us know her from. Um, and Summer Blair's career has not. been as, you know, robust in recent. years as it was back then, but people. know who she is. And apparently, she's. had a long struggle with alcohol. The. reporting was that she was she started. drinking when she was seven years old.

Um she wrote a memoir called Mean Baby. back in 2022. She said she named it. after the fact that her perpetual frown. as a newborn was said to make. neighborhood kids scream when they saw. her. She wrote that she was 7 years old. when she started drinking. By college, she was downing spirits, self-medication. for undiagnosed MS symptoms, she. claimed, and inner sadness, too. After a. breakup, she took a bottle of pills, followed by tequila. The efforts to. resuscitate her were so intense that.

they broke her nose. She claimed she had. an abusive mother who would who liked to. tell Blair the story of how she wasn't. sure she wanted Selma Blair. When in. seventh grade, she told her mother she'd. gotten her period. Her mother asked her. weight, she claimed, and then informed. her she must never gain another pound. "This is your weight, mother. pronounces." "This is your size. I have. been I have been wary of weight gain. ever since," wrote Blair. She also claimed to the New York Times. in 2022 that when she was in ninth grade.

in Michigan at a private school, she was. quote ruined, groomed by a dean who. abused her. In the years ahead, she. writes she would be raped multiple. times. She says that alcohol made her. unable to remember the details of many. assaults. Quote, "I left my body and. other people entered it." No. prosecutions were ever brought. It does. not appear she ever named these. individuals specifically. And there were some questions about. whether this was a truthful account.

Um, now we find out that yesterday on a. flight two days ago actually I think the. news just broke yesterday she was on a. plane. It was a Delta airplane. on its way from Los Angeles to JFK in. New York. And while in the air she. attempted to open the door leading out. of the aircraft. This led to an. altercation in which she punched one.

flight attendant and bit another. If you. listen to the pilot calling down seeking. paramedics help when they land the. plane. He suggests he doesn't know. whether the second victim is a second. flight attendant or a passenger. But in. any event, it appears at least two. people were hurt by Blair on the. airplane. The plane went unlocked. unlocked down sources said adding that. Blair was restrained in some way but was. not duct taped. She did have a support. animal with her a dog at the time of the. incident. Her lawyer met her at the.

hospital and took possession of the dog. This is not her first rodeo causing. chaos on a plane. In 2016, she was. forced to apologize following a bizarre. incident that happened aboard a Delta. flight where she allegedly mixed alcohol. and medication before she started crying. and shouting about being abused on her. flight home from Cancun. She was rushed. to a Los Angeles hospital after she. reportedly mixed alcohol and pills on.

this flight home and began to scream. about a man physically abusing her. Quote, "He burns my private parts. He. won't let me eat or drink. He beats me. He's going to kill me." she shouted, breaking down in tears. According to. fellow passengers, her statement after. this was, "I made a big mistake. yesterday. After a lovely trip with my. son and dad and his dad, I mixed alcohol. with medication and that caused me to. black out and led me to say and do. things that I deeply regret. I'm a. flawed human being who makes mistakes. and I'm filled with shame over this. incident. I'm truly very sorry." That.

was 2016. And here we are 10 years later. and once again she has an absolute. meltdown on a plane where again she. tries to open the door of the plane. leading outside when they are flying in. the air is stopped and then assaults the. two flight attendants who tried to stop. her. They landed at LAX. The pilot had. called in advance asking for police and. paramedics and one of the passengers. caught this audio which they then sold.

gave to TMZ. You can hear it in part. uh you will hear Selma Blair we are told. according to TMZ screaming no and stop. or being removed from this flight. Stop. 35. >> upstairs. Wait for a few more minutes.

>> Obviously in distress. Now we are told that when she got into. the ambulance, she assaulted one of the. paramedics and a police officer. Um or or I'm let me correct myself. one. attendant uh who was trying to take care. of her and then later a nurse. This is. what the Daily Mail Mail reported that.

um. D. a request initially went out for medics. to meet the aircraft because two crew. members needed care. They said there was. a bloody nose as well as some bite. marks. Uh, and they also said that the. passenger, meaning Selma Blair, may have. bashed her head on the bulkhead. That. allegation was repeated later by her. lawyer. Um, then they said after leaving the plane, Blair allegedly took her leg out of a. stretcher's straps and kicked at a Port.

Authority police officer's face. So, not. the paramedic, but a police officer. while she was in the stretcher at his. face, neck, and chest. According to the. police complaint, as she was being. transported in the ambulance from JFK. airport's terminal 4, according to the. legal complaint, after Blair was taken. to Jamaica Hospital Medical Center, she. kicked the chest of a registered nurse. Both the nurse and the police officer. reported being in pain after being. attacked, prosecutors say, adding that.

the officer had a swollen jaw. She later appeared in court. She was. arraigned and she bailed out. Here's. some video of her walking into the. arraignment. There's no sound. She's wearing a white. t-shirt. She's got her um sunglasses on, white sweatshirt. She's kind of limping.

Don't don't know if that's because of. her MS. She was using a cane not long. ago, a couple years ago, but then she. claimed that she was completely in. remission with symptoms all resolved. thanks to stem cell treatments. So, I. don't know exactly what this the limp is. about here. Could be the MS has resumed. Could be got injured in one of her many. altercations that I just outlined for. you. Um, sorry. Here is actually dispatch audio. of the officials requesting the medical. personnel. I should have played that a. minute ago. S 34. We'd like to have some.

medical personnel uh at the gates uh for. a couple of the FAS involved in the. passenger incident. They just need to. get a couple things looked at. >> Okay. Um I will pass that along. Just. get an estimated patient count for me, please. How many ambulances we'll need? >> Uh no ambulances. Just some medical. personnel available for two flight. attendants at the gate. Should be fine. for that. >> And then I know you're busy, but just. had a couple of questions for you for. paperwork purposes. the uh passenger, the abusive passenger. Uh did that uh.

result in the two flight attendants that. are requesting uh paramedics? >> A firm. Uh from the info I've got, sounds like there were two uh yeah, one. flight attendant and one passenger that. sustained some minor injuries. Uh a. bloody nose as well as some bite marks. as well. So, I don't think we need an. ambulance or anything like that, but we. just get some medical personnel at the. gate to look at their injuries. Okay, Delta 938 uh heavy. Uh we do have uh. paramedics uh approaching the gate right.

now and the law enforcement already at. the gate. >> And then one additional add-on, it. sounds like the disruptive passenger. also uh bashed her head on the bulkhead. or something like that. Um so we'll. obviously have to get her potentially. checked out as well as involved with law. enforcement. >> And there you have it. And that that. person who hit her hit her head on the. on the bulkhead was Selma Blair. according to her lawyers. Now we we find.

the following out. This is not the first. time that Selma Blair has bitten another. person. Recall she bit one of these. flight attendants, at least one. This is a thing with this woman. The New. York Post reported a bit about her. memoir confessing to this. She blames. her biting on her shyness. If she's. overwhelmed in public, she writes, quote, "My system gets overwhelmed and. instantaneously short circuits. In my.

life, social interactions have been. cumbersome, especially for the victims. Sienna Miller had an incident with her. one night after her divorce. Uh, that's. Selma Blair's divorce in 2006." Blair. writes that she was at the Chateau. Marmmont when she that's in LA when she. saw Sienna Miller and introduced. herself. Quote, "I couldn't begrudge her. for any part. She was winning over me,". Blair writes. So, I grabbed her arm and. bit it playfully as if it were an apple.

Even as I held her forearm in my mouth, I was gassed at myself. I thought, "What. have I gotten myself into or her? This. is horrible behavior." Blair shares that. Miller quote kind of screamed, "Opever. someone breaks a plate. You bit me, didn't you? You really did." but quote, "She didn't shame me for this. In my. book, she will forever be the bell of. the ball." Okay. Seth McFarland. Another. incident. Blair also remembers becoming. friendly with Scarlett Johansson while.

working on the 2000 film In Good. Company. She was delighted when. Johansson invited her to hang out with. her and her pals in Las Vegas. The first. night, the group went out for sushi. But. Blair, who struggled with alcoholism for. years, confesses that she quote wasn't. good at social drinking. Well, yeah, that's not a thing for alcoholics. I did. not realize how drunk one can get while. seated at a table eating. After dinner, they made their way to a club where. Blair saw her friend Seth Green, who. introduced her to Family Guy creator.

Seth McFarland. I was starruck, she. writes, quote, "What do I do in public. situations where I admire someone but. feel as if I don't bring anything to the. party?" Well, I think we all know the. answer by this point. Quote, I bit him. on the hand. Whoa, he yelled. That. really hurt. It wasn't a disaster. I. didn't break skin, but I soon hated. myself. This is very bizarre behavior. And like, I'm seeing a pattern here, too, of constantly blaming it on alcohol. or mixing alcohol with pills. I mean,

sorry. after a certain point, you just. stop being able to use that as your. crutch. Like one big incident and we. would feel sorry for you like we did in. the 2016 thing, but this is a pattern. now where you've hurt a lot of people. None more so than Kate Moss. She finally. became friendly with supermodel Kate. Moss and one night was hanging out with. her and other people in a London hotel. suite after a Marc Jacobs fashion show. The two were having fun taking Polaroids. together, and that's when Blair decided. to bite Moss's finger, prompting the.

model to laugh. Quote, "And because she. laughed, I did it again." Selma Blair. writes, "The second time she did not. laugh and exclaimed, that really. hurt." The Calvin Klein model then. punched Blair in the back and grabbed. Blair's thumb and crunched right into. it, so she bit her in return. Aren't you. so sorry you're not at these Hollywood. parties? This was the first time I had. any inkling of how much I might hurt. people when I bit them. End quote. Blair.

confessed. Quote, Immediately I. transformed into a shamed nursery school. kid. Oh my gosh, I whispered. I am so. sorry. This is a very strange person. Um, I I don't know what's going on with. the MS or whether she's in full. remission as she claimed and she has no. more symptoms or like what's happening, but I I know a few people with MS and it. does not cause you to behave like this. Alcoholism and pill addiction can um. maybe severe anxiety. They said she has.

a fear of flying. Perhaps you have a. fear of flying and you self-medicate. when your dog's not getting it done as. your emotional support animal with booze. and pills on a flight. Um, that that. could explain this. I don't think it has. to do with MS, though I'm not a doctor. Uh, but her lawyer is of course trying. to come up with all sorts of excuses why. she's this isn't really her, that this. was some sort of a medical emergency. he.

wants us to believe. And by that, I. think he's making a reference to her MS. But I'm sorry. I I'm not sure that's. gonna fly. I think Selma Blair's had. some issues for a long time, as you. know, I just made clear. And I think. these issues unressed are going to. continue causing problems for Selma. Blair. She's now facing multiple. charges. Um she was, let's see, in. court, she was ordered to keep her cuffs.

on. They're afraid of her given that. behavior. Judge Endura Khan set her bail. at $20,000 cash, $60,000 bond during the. hearing. Um, let's see. She faces two to. seven years behind bars if she's. convicted of two state level assault. charges. This is with respect to the cop. and the nurse. There are other charges. that are going to come her way via the. feds for the two flight attendants whom. she assaulted in the air. Uh, that's. being handled now by the FBI. So the.

lawyer said this was not an intentional. assault. She missed several doses of a. powerful medication that controls severe. neurological symptoms. She not only has. MS, but they say she has Parkinson. symptoms or Parkinsonism, which I'm not sure if they're making a. distinction between that and the actual. disease. The lawyer said she boarded. this flight after being on set and. working extensive hours and exhaustive. hours in the days leading up to this. flight. Now, just stop it. Stop that. Stop it right now. Everybody listening.

to me right now has boarded a flight. after working extensive hours and being. exhausted. Many of us have done that. countless times on a flight. Has does. not cause you to assault flight. attendants and try to open the door to. the airplane while you're mid-flight. Additionally, at one point during the. flight, there was an incident where she. actually fell and hit her head. Well, it. seems that there's a dispute about. exactly how that happened. there there's. a contention that she fell in the course. of the altercation, but he seems to be.

suggesting, oh, she fell, she hit her. head, and this caused some sort of an. incident. I don't know what he's getting. ready to argue, but we'll learn more. about the facts as time goes on. He says. these factors coupled with the altitude. resulted in a state of severe confusion. and disorientation. So he's claiming. that it was missing her powerful. medication. and the altitude and she had worked. extensive hours and exhaustive hours and. she hit the head. Like I mean there you. know too many excuses means no excuse,

right? Like you know how it is. Somebody's cancelling on you. They're. like I'm sick and my husband's sick and. my kid is sick and also our house burned. down and our car's in the shop. You you. know they're lying. they just don't feel. like doing the date. Okay, so be better. off saying, "I don't feel well. Let's. reschedule. Too many excuses means no. excuses." Um, he told the judge to. consider Selma Blair's body of work and. what she's done for people. This is. someone we should look up to. He said, "She is the gold standard." And the.

judge, to her credit, said Miss Blair. should not get special treatment because. she is a celebrity. You go, Judge Khan. Um, so yeah, I think they're going to. take this very seriously and I do think. she was probably in the midst of some. sort of mental health crisis. That seems. very clear and I really genuinely hope. Selma Blair finally gets the the help. that she clearly so desperately needs. Um,

okay. We're going to take a break. When. we come back, we're going to bring on. Andy No. Now Andy is somebody who has. been right smack dab in the middle of. reporting not only on Antifa which you. know is a very dangerous group but on. transif. There are actually groups of trans. activists who whose aim it is to hurt. and worse other people and Andy know is.

one of the few people who will report on. them fearlessly, courageously, and at. great risk to himself. Um well he's. going to be here in a minute to explain. to us what he has found as he's. unearthed he says the existence and he's. written a whole book about this now of a. transif group that he says has actually. murdered people and I've got a lot of. questions for him about this group. Uh. in the meantime I'm going to tell you. this before we sign off from our second.

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got he's gotten physically attacked. He. does this reporting at great risk to. himself. Now he is out with a new book. detailing what he describes as one of. the most disturbing investigations of. his career. The book is called The. Zizians, Inside a Trans Death Cult. It. just came out today and in it Andy No. investigates a group he describes as a. radical trans leftist vegan AI doomer. cult that has been linked to multiple. deaths across the United States. Here's.

a look at the book's trailer. The book. has its own trailer. >> What began as a small and obscure. California community became something. else entirely. A cult built around a. trans figure known as Ziz. Around sizes, a secretive network of. transgender devotees emerged. What they. left behind was a trail of violence. linked to eight deaths, including a. border patrol agent and a key murder. trial witness. Over nearly a decade, the.

group recruited followers from around. the world. I tracked down sources, interviewed witnesses, uncovered hidden. records, and pieced together an. impossible story from fragments. scattered across the world. Andy joins me now. Andy, so good to see. you again. So tell us who are the. Zizians? >> Well, let me provide a little context. So for those who are familiar with my. reporting, they know that for many years. I've reported on Antifa and I've been.

subjected to their violence. But in the. last 5 years in I've taken a trajectory. towards reporting on trans violence. In. 2020 during the BLM riots and antifar. riots after George Floyd died when I was. gathering the data on those who were. being arrested at the Portland riots for. example in Portland where I used to live. disproportionately up to 20% of the. arrestes on certain nights were trans.

identifying in some way and I would. verify this through looking up. individually each person and getting. their booking photos. So, that was. something that I thought was very. curious and weird because all other. estimates out there, even on the higher. ends of what researchers think or um the. demographics of trans people in America, it's about 0.5% at the high end. So, why. is is it magnitudes higher in in in. left-wing violence? And then I was.

beaten severely in 2019 and also again. in 2021. and nobody was held crim criminally. liable for that. But I pursued uh. justice through the civil court. And of. um the individuals that I had sued, half. of them ended up identifying as trans. So personally, it really it hit me in. the face. And what I learned in the. years following census that for news. reporting involving homicide, murder. cases, some type of violence, you cannot.

take the names of suspects at face value. from um reporting agencies or even law. um enforcement departments because all. of them use names and sex of individuals. that are often inaccurate. if it. involves trans identifying individuals. So last year on inauguration day when a. border patrol agent was ambushed and. shot dead uh in Vermont right by the.

Canadian border, as soon as I found out. the names of these suspects who were. involved in that case, I dug further and. I found out, wait, there are trans links. here and not just trans link, but cult. links. And I kept digging further and. further and eventually I learned about. the Zizians and I traveled to the. various hiding spots across the US. I. interviewed people and witnesses and. family members and really uncovered. their secrets and the story has all the. elements that you think u media would be.

all over. There's uh interstate murders, money, suicides, revenge, uh fake. deaths, cover-ups, all of that. And yet. this it was barely touched on by the. mainstream media. And I think the. kryptonite for them was the fact that. almost all the members are trans. identifying and trans ideology plays a. huge component in their extremist. beliefs.

>> Yeah. Because the media loves a good. cult story. Normally they'd be all over. that. Like when there was that Nexium. sex cult up in my one of my hometowns in. Albany, New York, where I spent my high. school years, they were all over it. They loved that story. But this one, not. so much. And look at whatever, say what. you will about Keith Reeri. He wasn't. murdering people. Um, and yet in this. cult, we've gone that far according to. you. I mean, what's But no, but but the. guy the the leader. of the cult, I mean, we can get to this,

but like he's not in custody. He's not. on facing charges of murder. It appears. he's just gotten a massive pass from the. feds on um some of his behavior. So the. image that is shown is a booking photo. of Jack Amadeus Loda who identifies as. female and uses the alias Ziz. Hence his. followers are known as the Zizians. He. is currently in federal custody in. Philadelphia. However, recently his.

felony Maryland state case was suspended. for reasons that were unknown and one of. the other Zizians, one of the alleged. co-conspirators in that um case was let. go completely. Uh I think what but at. the end of the day, Ziz um has not been. charged with any conspiracy charges or. murder or even attempted murder. The. Zizians, what makes them really. different from many other cults is that.

many of the members you can describe. essentially as geniuses. They have. degrees in in STEM backgrounds, uh, engineering, biioinformatics, um, space research, quantum trading. Some of them were making hundreds of. thousands of dollars a year. They, uh, some of them had, uh, interned at NASA, for example. Ziz Jack Loda had interned. for NASA researching at one point um. solar expulsions um from the sun. So and.

their educational background for many of. them is quite elite. University of. Oxford, UC Berkeley, UC LA, um. University of Illinois, Urbana, Champagne, graduate degrees. So they. what I uncovered um is that they are. very very good at covering their tracks. and escaping accountability faking their. deaths. Jack Lassote himself had faked. his death numerous times at the same.

time particularly when they were in. California because they held their. origins in Silicon Valley as part of the. rationalist and effective altruism. movement which we're hearing a lot now. from those who are warning about the the. existential risk of AI. They um were able to exploit the. sensibilities in the courts regarding. transgenderism. So they over the years. um in past arrests related to ongoing. cases to attempted murder and murder, they made a number of accusations in.

various frivolous motion filings in the. courts about how their rights were. violated by transphobic law enforcement, transphobic judges, and the courts in. the Bay Area gave them time and listen. to their grievances. And meanwhile, one. of the in one of the attempted murder. and murder cases, the one key witness. was aging Curtis Lynch. And then he. eventually was assassinated in 2025 last. year in a very brutal knife attack in.

Vallejo, California. >> Do we know by whom? The person who has. been arrested for that is a Zizian. member and. at one point had applied for a marriage. license with one of the other Zizian. members who is facing a murder charge in. Vermont. >> Oh my god. Okay. All right. So, let's. stop one second here because I'm sure. people are confused at this point. So, we know that there's there's like the.

main guy who's at the heart of the. Zizian alleged cult and his name is Jack. Loda. He's the leader. He's been. arrested several times. You said he. faked his death and he was eventually. caught in Maryland, but those Maryland. state charges were dropped, but he's. still having to deal with the feds. So, he's got he's in custody right now on. some federal charges. and he's sort of. the leader of this cult which I'd love. to know why veganism is a part like they. got a lot of things here Andy we got we. got trans we got um veganism we've got.

violence like there's a lot they stand. for so what what is he selling you know. because in any cult there's a cult. leader who's generally very charismatic. and he's selling something to the. participants. >> so we're hearing a lot now about AI risk. from effective altruists a number of. them who worked at Open AI and Anthropic. have come out to talk about how AI will. destroy the world. But this debate has. been going on in Silicon Valley for a. decade and Ziz and the other Zizians.

many years ago have moved to the Bay. Area to get involved with the groups. that hold these type of debates and come. up with ways that they think of. mitigating those risk and saving the. world. So in that type of environment, Zizen developed some of his own ideas. For one, he believed that the mainstream. rationalists in EA communities weren't. doing enough. That Ziz himself actually. could perhaps form a vanguard of those. who would go on to quote unquote save.

the world. And those who would make up. that vanguard in his worldview would. likely involve trans women. He had a. belief that trans women, and by that I'm. referring to males who identify as. female, he believed they possessed. certain cognitive abilities, special. cognitive abilities that made them. unique and special. So, as part of his. ideology once he was recruiting people, they developed certain beliefs about how. they could conduct human. experimentations involving sleep.

deprivation. And they believed that the. two cores of the brain, the hemisphere. or the right and left hemisphere. correspond to actually different. identities. One potentially being evil, one good. And therefore you have to. separate the two hemispheres. So they. conducted a number of experiments on one. another that caused psychosis in their. members and that ended up with several. of them committing suicide. And that's. been part of the story of the Zizians. It hasn't been discussed as much in.

comparison to the murders. >> How many how many Zizians are there? How. many people in this cult? >> So I've been able to identify around a. dozen of them. However, like with many. cults and extremist groups, there are. other concentric circles and outside of. that that there are many associates who. identify by name their real names in. this book who have not been charged with. any crimes but nevertheless have served. very important roles in the group.

What is the what describe why they keep. crossing the uh wires of law. enforcement? Because you listed a couple. of the alleged crimes that some of them. have committed, but like what is it. they're doing? You know, like a lot of. these cults, they do weird things behind. closed doors, but they don't bother. anybody. What are why why are these guys. continuously in the crosshairs of law. enforcement? So law enforcement started. paying attention to them back in 2019. when the Zizians held a direct action. against a gathering of rationalists in.

Soma County, California. in in 2019 on. that day, they dawned um Guy Fox masks. and wore black robes and uh came in. costumes and blocked off the exits and. entrances to this park and created what. law enforcement said was a hostage. situation. Now, this was a park where. there were other children and families. there. So, dozens of people thought that. there was an active shooter situation. So, that was when they first were.

charged with felony charges. And as that. case had dragged on and then with the. pandemic and their various tactics to. waste time in the court also with the. civil claim that they filed alleging. transphobic abuse. Eventually that was. then Ziz faked his death. Another person. faked the suicide and he disappeared. And when Ziz was seen by law enforcement. again it was during the attempted murder. of their landlord Curtis Lint. He was.

stabbed dozens of times with swords. And. this is from his testimony. >> He had his eye so crazy. >> gouged out in the attack. Sorry I'm. being violent. And he was impaled with a. sword. He had a firearm for. self-defense. He shot one of the. Zizzines dead. He miraculously survived. that. Ziz, by the way, was seen um at. that area once police responded to the. attack. And um when he was taken to the.

police department to be questioned, he. wasn't placed under arrest and all they. did was pretend to be unconscious. Law enforcement thought it was a medical. emergency. They took him to hospital. Nobody kept an eye on him and he. disappeared. And the next time he. emerged was in Philadelphia with other. um in the Philadelphia area with other. Zizians and he was a person of interest. in a double homicide case there where. the parents of one of the Zizzy members. >> certainly were shot dead. >> Certainly feel better about the fact. that he is in federal custody. I was.

confused when I read that the Maryland. authorities had let him go. But that's. that's good to hear that he's not free. and roaming anymore. What do you think, Andy? Is it because you know we've heard. a lot about transif. which I never heard of before but it. does seem like there is a a if it's not. a growing cultism around transgenderism. there's definitely growing violence. I. mean the number of school shootings. we've seen that have been committed by. someone identifying as trans. It does.

seem to be on the on the upswep. And yet. the thing you're talking about is an is. another pattern of the media downplaying. or not reporting at all on the trans. ideology of the perpetrators. I mean are. you noticing the same trends? >> So it's important obviously to caveat. that not all trans people are violent or. extreme. However, even though the. Zizians are a very fringe example of. what happens at the tail end of this. ideology, they do pit fit into a larger.

pattern of surging trans violence. In. the book, I document the number of. attacks that have happened, mass. shootings, atrocities, parasite, that is. the killing of one's parents, the. killing of other people through. accusations of transphobia or other. mental health co-orbidities. And you see. that there's a surging um rising. violence that's not being discussed. In. fact, we're being gas lit on it. I'm. speaking to you now just as last week.

there was a American man in the in. Washington state, a trans person who was. federally charged for allegedly helping. the trans mass shooter that carried out. the February slaughter of women and. children in Tumblr Ridge, Canada. And. that's just one example. many many many. you know like people remember the. Nashville Christian school shooting. there was in Minneapolis um shooting on. children at the mass um there was the. shooting u by Robert Doran there's so.

many of them that and the thing is if. you just rely on media reporting oftent. times they will just report the suspects. killers and convicts as women who carry. out these attacks. So for my book, it. was very important that every individual. has their legal birth name reported and. the biological sex and that there's no. inbuguity about it because the only way. that the the truth about the Zizians can. be told is if um we know the true.

identities of who these individuals are. What what about do you do you know. anything about the the trans people who. were messaging in advance of Charlie. Kirk's assassination? Have you looked. into that at all, Andy? >> I have looked into that. Um I know that. was a uh people brought have brought a. lot of attention to that. When I looked. deeper into some of those accounts that. before his assassination were posting. things, you'll see that on some of them.

there was a pattern of them making. similar statements about other days. And. I believe that unfortunately this may. have just ended up being a sick. coincidence where certain threats or. certain things that they were. referencing ended up being true. >> Wow. Wow. that I mean that's more of an. explanation than we've gotten from. anybody else on why we've seen no. charges you know against any of those. people who was posting. Listen, I love. your reporting. You are one of the. bravest reporters we have. The book is.

called the Zizians ZIS Z. inside a trans death cult. And Andy can. only do his great work with our support. It's out today. Buy it. Support Andy and. you will find this quite an eyeopener. Thank you so much for coming on and for. all the great work you do. >> My pleasure. Thank you. >> Andy know everybody. Last name Ngo O. Look it up. You can buy it now. Again, the Zizians inside a trans death cult. Tomorrow we are back with our pals from.

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