'Reckless Ben' Speaks: The Truth Behind YouTuber's Bizarre Lego Arrest

Like I made a GoFundMe and they're. trying to send me to a life sentence. You know what I mean? Like how does that. make any sense? This is the goofiest. court case I've ever heard. >> We're bringing on Reckless Ben, Ben. Schneider, the man behind the viral. alleged stolen LEGO controversy that has. taken social media by storm. I want to. get his take on what's going on and how. he's navigating the criminal charges and. the lawsuit he now faces. Welcome to. Sidebar, presented by Law & Crime. I'm. Jesse Weber.

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sidebar on it. There's a YouTuber. getting handcuffed, a police raid, a. dispute over LEGO that somehow involves. stalking charges, redacted body cam. footage, a GoFundMe that has raised over. $400,000. The YouTuber is Benjamin Schneider. He. goes by Reckless Ben. Nearly a million. subscribers. His whole brand is going. after what he calls corrupt. organizations, cults, haunted houses, troubled teen facilities. Essentially,

he believes that there are criminal. cases out there that are not getting the. right attention. He goes out, takes care. of it himself. Now, he apparently finds. legal loopholes, he documents. everything, and he shuts them down. >> Journalist is kind of a weird word. I'm. a YouTuber. Um people email me stories, and then I. go and basically it's usually corrupt. organizations. I go in and then I think. the thing that separates me from other. people is I don't just report on it, I. actually take it to the next step and. like shut them down. >> So, his latest target is a company.

called Bricks and Minifigs. It's a LEGO. resell chain, apparently headquartered. out in Utah. Here's the backstory. An. Oregon family, a father and his son, had. a massive Star Wars LEGO collection. Hundreds of box sets, thousands of rare. minifigures, valued at around $200,000. Now, the plan was to sell it through a. Bricks and Minifigs franchise on. consignment. Now, the store would sell. the LEGO, keep a cut, family gets the. rest. But, according to Ben, when. corporate took over that franchise, the.

new owners, identified or reportedly. identified as Joshua Johnson and Brandon. Best, refused to return the collection. or pay the family. And the family. essentially claims they got gypped, they. got robbed. Now, Ben got involved, and he apparently. helped them file a lawsuit, but he. claims in order to avoid having to go. through the whole legal process, the. owners decided to shut down shop, shut. down the store. So, Ben ends up apparently filing a new. lawsuit, this time against them. personally. They live in Utah. So, Ben.

apparently flew out there in order to. effectuate serving these people the. legal papers, and that is where. everything went haywire. >> This is what you're required to do from. the United States court. We're just following the instructions we. got from him. >> You got help? >> He does not want the paper, so. >> He's. >> want the papers? >> Here's that back for you. >> Okay. >> He wanted you trespassed. >> Okay. >> All right. I'll have you stand over. here. Do you have any weapons or. anything like that on you? >> Uh no.

>> Okay. Let's go ahead and find your back. >> I didn't ask you to. >> You're under arrest right now for. stalking. >> Uh. they're arresting me because this guy. stole a bunch of Legos. >> And he was accused of also sending. people to the house, too. Putting up a. sign. And this is where it all got. really messy. Now, police were called. multiple times over the course of. several days. This was back in March. They apparently raided the Airbnb where. Ben was staying. They arrested him. Ben. now faces stalking charges, a targeted.

residential picketing charge. It's a. giant mess. And just this week Ben. posted a new video claiming someone had. hacked the American Fork Police. Department and released unredacted body. cam footage. >> Someone actually hacked into the. American Fork Police Department and. released all the footage unredacted of. my interactions with them. So, this is. the original footage I got with the. redactions in, and this is the new. unredacted footage. >> Now, the American Fork Police Department.

says they were just doing their job. They were responding to reports of. harassment and stalking. They've. released the body cam footage. They've. issued statements. And I'll actually. read one to you right now. In fact, they. basically said that they understand that. there's a lot of people out there who've. been following the situation online, have strong feelings regarding this. underlying business dispute. But at the. same time they indicated their. responsibility in Utah wasn't to. determine who was right in the business. disagreement. Their responsibility was. to respond to what they essentially said. was illegal conduct. And they say that.

the fact that someone may believe they. had been wronged financially doesn't. exempt any individual from the laws. regarding harassment and trespassing and. stalking or other conduct within their. jurisdiction. Now, Ben has always said that they're. not telling the whole story. So, what. did we do? We saw a lot of comments. online that this looked one-sided, that. you need to hear from Ben. We got Ben. All right, let me bring him on right. now. YouTuber Reckless Ben, Ben. Schneider. Good to see you again. I. spoke to you only a few hours ago on my.

NewsNation show, Jesse Weber Live. I'm. really happy to have you here on Sidebar. because, you know, I'm sometimes limited. in how much I can talk at night. This is. a full discussion. I want to get into. more details now. Thanks for taking the. time. I'm going to start with the. natural place here. Why and how did you become involved in. this whole LEGO issue, this LEGO story? How did you even find out about it? >> So, basically, I've kind of gained a. reputation online of solving crimes that.

the police are unable to solve. So, at. the end of my last video, I basically. kind of ran out of ideas, so I was like, I made an email specifically for like. ideas. I was like, if you have an idea, or if you have a problem that the police. can't solve, I'll try to solve it for. you. Just email me here. And I got. probably like 10,000 emails, and this. one just seemed like one of the most. injustice out of all of them, where. there was this guy who.

this family spent their life savings. collecting the world's biggest Star Wars. LEGO collection. It was like a big deal. for them, and then they give it to this. store trusting that they're going to. sell it for them, and then they get like. almost nothing back. All right, so I was like, how can that happen? Like, in America, like. if you steal something, you should get. in trouble for that, right? Like, how. can a giant corporation just get away. with stealing something this massive? And like, there's no repercussions at. all. That's insane. So, I was like, whoop, I'm just going to. go and hear out their side, you know?

And when I went in the store, I mean, you can see what happened. They just called the cops on me, and it. was insane. >> Well, let me back up a second. When you. found out this story, you get in touch. with them, right? Did you When was the. lawsuit filed? Did What was the first. thing that you did when you got in touch. with this family, which I believe is out. of Oregon? What was the first thing that. you guys did? >> Um I just heard his story and then I. said, "Well, I heard your side now I. want to hear their side." And so I. walked into the store and she called the.

cops on me and said I was harassing her. And she's like, "You're harassing like. all I did was I I in the most polite way. possible I said, 'Hey, I think my friend. has some LEGOs in your guys' store. He. asked if you could have them back and. you guys trespassed in the store so I'm. just wondering if I can get them back. for him.'" And she's like she calls the. other she's like, "I'm being harassed. right now." And she calls 911 she's. like, "Cops get here there's there's a. lunatic here harass harassing me." And. uh. So that's how that went I guess.

>> And and what you and when was that? Cuz. that's different than all the body cam. that's come out into the the you know. the media the last. >> Yeah, so in Oregon the police actually. don't wear body cams. They're not. required to in the state of Oregon. So I. was not able to get any of the body cams. for Oregon sadly. But that was the very. end It was like one of the last days of. September probably September 29th I'd. say. And of 2025. and. um. yes, that's when the whole thing started.

I guess. >> When did the lawsuit get filed? >> The first one. So we actually. did one lawsuit and then they ended up. closing down the whole store so that. ended up actually not working out. Um I think they closed down the store to. avoid paying us so they're like, "Well, if we can't sue the LLC well we shut. down our store we'll just sue them. personally, you know?" And so that. lawsuit was filed. probably a couple days before I went to. Oregon I'd say.

>> So so in other words, you couldn't even. get this in front of a court, get this. in front of a jury, litigate it, they. closed the store so there was nothing. left to do. So, you decided to go. to Utah now to confront. Mr. Johnson, right? And explain to us. what happened there. >> So, um it's such a long story. So, first, before you can get a court case. approved, you have to have what's called. a good faith conversation. And I mean, every state's different, but in Marion. County Court in Oregon, Utah, this is.

their procedure, I guess. So, you have. to show actual verifiable proof that you. tried to have like resolve it outside of. court first before it can get to a. court. So, I go to Josh's house to. basically just talk this out with him, like, "Hey, like, we don't want to take you to. court. Can we solve this like adults, you know?" And he calls the cops on me. And they let me go, of course, um cuz I. didn't do anything illegal. And then. uh. and then I'm like, "Okay, well, we had.

the good faith conversation. My court. case gets approved." So, we. next step, serving papers. Uh I can't. serve him papers cuz I'm involved in the. court case, but uh I So, I would just. like literally put on my Instagram story. post, like, "Hey, anyone want to like. help me with a video?" And someone. reached out. And I felt kind of bad. sending her there by herself because. she's like a girl going to this unhinged. like kind of lunatic guy who literally. the previous day made a false.

Yeah, we think he made a false arrest. saying we had heroin in our car. So, we. got a 3-hour search of our car the other. day for for. So, this guy is unhinged. He actually We found out later that it's. good that I brought her with me cuz he. said he was going to shoot the next. person that like walks on his property. or something. He told that to the. police. So, um. basically, I was sitting in the car next. to her. We got permission from the. police. We said, "Hey, is it okay if we. do this? We will sit in the. the street, like, we pay taxes, you. know? So, like, we have a right to be on. the street, like, the sidewalk. And when.

he walks outside, then we'll start from. his paper. And the police are like, "Yeah, that's fine. As long as you're on. the street, just don't go You, Ben, specifically, don't go on his property.". And so, we're going to wait for him to. come outside, and then the girl was. going to serve him his court paper. But. before we could do that, he called the. cops on us. And at first, the cops were like, "Okay, like I see what you guys are doing here. Like this is the legal way to do it.". They leave. He calls the cops on us. again. Um I think the cops just ended up. leaving and coming back for probably.

like a two- or three-hour period until. finally. Josh has convinced the police that this. is a fake lawsuit. And we see this in. the unredacted body cam, where she's. like, "It I think he said it's a billy a. million billion. the trillion time percent fake." Is what. he said in his exact quotes. And he's now completely convinced the. police department that this is a fake. uh lawsuit. So, the police officer. actually goes and calls the court, verifies it's a real lawsuit, and then. after that, that's when they arrest me,

I guess. So. >> So, let's take that apart for a second. Why not use a process server, right? I I. understand And we talked about this last. night. Like the idea of you can just. maybe get anybody to serve the papers, but if you go to an actual process. server that has a company that does this. all the time, um would that have been. maybe the way to go because they might. the po- law enforcement maybe Johnson. would have taken it according to your. narrative, they would have taken it more. seriously. Why not just go to a process. server to serve the papers? >> So, we ended up doing that. Uh we So, we.

actually ended up going having someone. officially like from the police. department serve it uh a couple days. later. So, we actually ended up doing. that. So, we did get him the papers. Uh. the first time, just I didn't think we had to. You know, it's a hundred bucks to do that. I'm I. was hurting on money. I haven't posted a. YouTube video in probably like nine. months. So, I was running on like my. last dollar, and. like why pay money to serve him papers. when I can do it for free, you know? Like. I don't know. That's just my thought. process.

>> I guess the question is, do you think. you crossed the line? Cuz law. enforcement says, you know, and they. said this in their response, which we'll. talk about, but basically they make the. idea I know a lot of people are. following this case. I know people have. emotions about it. I know people are. following what happened to the people. that the family in Oregon, but at the. same time you can't cross the line. Like, do you think when they claim that. you were stalking or that you were. harassing? What's your response to law. enforcement about that? >> That seems like. an excuse.

I would say if I didn't want to be. served, if I knew I was wrong and didn't. want to be served court papers, if I if. I was someone who. I knew that I was in the wrong and I. really didn't want to go to court, I. would say that the process server is. stalking and harassing me. That's an. excuse I would use if I was uh in the. wrong. Um because the law states that. serving papers is not stalking and. harassing me. That's a legal way to do. it. That's what the law says. I'm I'm. not the one that makes the law. If we I. even told the police officers like, if I. could just send them an email, like or a.

phone call, like that would be easy, but. for some reason that's not how the court. system works. And there was a line. It. was his property and I didn't cross it. >> What about the people that went on the. property, right? The idea or allegedly. went on the property. It was, you know, in the body cam. There's like like who's. who's Benjamin Adams to you? >> Uh he was just some random person I just. met on Instagram. He runs. uh Instagram page called like Urbex. Utah, I think.

Um. he just came and. like obviously we're trying to make a. documentary about this because I knew at. the end of the day if. if we can't get the legos back, if all. of our plans fail, what's not going to. fail is the video and the audience. support and the GoFundMe. So, in order. and that is actually what ended up. working is we made a GoFundMe and we. reached the goal in 12 hours. So, >> How much? >> I. >> Um it's a. So, the goal was $120,000 cuz that's the. amount of LEGO sets that I was told he's.

still in the store. And so, $120,000 is. what would make him whole. However, we. are now at $400,000. >> $400,000? >> Yeah, it's over $400,000 now. >> Gosh. >> So, obviously, filming this works. And so, I. just was like, "Hey." He was like, "I. have a camera. I can like film you going. around like trying to serve him papers. and stuff and doing all this." And I was. like, "Okay." So, he was just someone. holding the camera. And ultimately, that. is what got the money back. So, everyone.

that's saying like, "Oh, I'm stupid for. filming this. Like, I'm just doing this. for likes and views and stuff." It's. like, "No, I'm not doing it for likes. and I mean, kind of like the likes and views is. what's going to get Brian his money that. he wanted, you know what I mean? So, it's like. in a sense, it. >> How's How's the fam- How's the family. doing now that that that that that. money's been raised? >> So, they're still a little scared. because they're now being sued by Bricks. in My Pocket and they said a minimum. it's going to cost around like two. $300,000 to defend themselves if they. the lawsuit ends up happening. So, I.

mean, they're like super grateful. They got paid out with the LEGOs, but. it's like. right when one problem gets accomplished. or right when one problem gets solved, it just creates another problem that you. know, it's like. uh we had like a tiny bit of relief and. then now they're scared again, but uh I. I think Bricks in My Pocket I think it's. getting so big now Bricks in My Pocket. would be stupid to sue the people they. stole from, but. um. I think they're going to drop it for.

sure. I don't think they'll drop my last. lawsuit, but I think they'll drop his. cuz. >> And they're And they're accusing They're. accusing you guys of racketeering, right? They're accusing you guys of that. as well. >> They're thinking that Brian is the. mastermind who hired me to harass them. is their story. Where I This is just. Brian's friend reached out to me because. he saw how sad Brian was. He's like, "Hey, look at this terrible thing that. happened. If you want to do a story on. it, do a story on it." And I was like, "Okay." And that's. that's all Brian is involved with this, basically.

>> I guess the I guess the counterargument. would be what they're going to put. forward is there's a difference between. serving papers versus. you know, were people being sent to this. guy's property under false pretenses? There was this guy, Christian Morgan, who apparently went to the Johnson's. house, right? >> And this is like a Yeah. >> a kind of more like a religious figure. said like he wanted to talk to I don't. remember it was a Brother Johnson, how. he said it. And was it I guess to the to. the argument out there, the allegations. out there, that you allegedly sent. people there under false pretenses to.

serve the papers or getting contact with. Johnson, what would your response be? >> the the court case wasn't accepted yet, I don't think, at this time. Um so, he. wasn't there to serve papers. He. I was trying to find someone to. I'm still trying to fulfill this good. faith conversation that I'm court. required to have. And. I'm trying to think of it from like. Josh's point of view. So, he probably. thinks I'm some crazy lunatic YouTuber. And even if I say the perfect phrase.

that will like make the most amount of. sense, even that he's not going to listen to. that. So, I think I was like, "Okay, if. I'm just some stupid YouTuber, who would. he listen to?" I'm like, "His. like Mormon community." You know, like. that he would actually listen to that. So, um I found this guy and was like, "Hey, like this guy swore to God." I feel like. it's a really bad thing to do. And then, especially if you. like. swear to God that you're going to do. something and then you don't do that. thing, that's probably really offensive.

to God. And he's going to go to a place. called the outer darkness is what they. believe in Mormonism. It's like. hell, basically, for Mormons. And. I thought. if he if Josh is truly Mormon, he thinks. he's going to hell because in Mormonism. stealing is wrong. So, if anything, I'm. doing him a favor by like, "Hey, I'm. showing the Mormon community this. sin he's committed, and maybe they want. to help him not. like commit this sin anymore, you know, and like.

get and like maybe he'll actually listen. to them." So, that was kind of my. thinking on that. Uh. it ended up not working at all. Uh. But, at this point, I'm just like. thinking of like anything outside of the. box, you know, I'm like, "Okay, maybe. this will work. Like, let's try it. Maybe this will work. Let's try it." I'm. just kind of spitballing ideas, and. we're like, "Okay, let's let's send. these ideas, you know, and. didn't really end up working, but I. thought it was worth a shot, you know. >> Have you had any contact with Johnson. like through all this? Did you ever get. a chance to speak to him? >> Uh three phone calls with him uh in the.

first time I was in Oregon. I think it. was during the first video I posted. And. then, I think once we they closed down. the store, they ended up finding out. about my YouTube channel, and since then. I. I talked to him in mediation after that, but cuz we ended up. successfully serving him, and we took. him to mediation, and now. I guess we have court soon. So, I did. talk to him in mediation, but I'm sadly. not allowed to say what happened in. mediation because it's confidential, but.

>> Well, what did can you tell us what he. said? Did he say like where the Legos. are or anything like that? >> In mediation? No, I I I wish I could. It. sucks cuz I wanted to film it so bad, but it's like very illegal because. >> Yeah. >> I think it kind of makes sense, I guess, because if I make my film it, then now. Josh is going to be like less likely to. say his side of the story cuz he thinks. he'll be on camera. And if he knows I'm. just going to like say what he said, then he's more less likely to talk in. mediation. So, uh I could probably get in trouble if I. spilled the beans, but I will just say.

he was he was definitely lying in. mediation. It was all a big lie. But, he's probably going to say argument in. court, so whatever he in mediation will. probably just be able to make fun of him. in court. >> Ben, are you doing this all by yourself. or are you represented by anybody who's. giving you, you know, advice or. >> All by myself. >> anything? >> Yeah, everything's myself, which is why. the ideas are so stupid because I. thought of them. >> Are after everything that's happened, are you now are lawyers reaching out and. trying to. >> Oh, yeah. No, I'm getting reached out by.

like the literally the best lawyers in. the United States and I'm going to take. them on for these now criminal defense. things and I think I'm suing the police. department for civil rights for my. friends that got arrested like unjustly. because they literally did nothing. Um, and. so I think I'm going to get that lawyers. but. up until now it's just been all me, which is why it's why the ideas are very. stupid and because no lawyer would ever. recommend what I did.

>> What. What are you currently facing criminal. charges? >> Oh, a bunch, yeah. >> So, what are you What are you facing? >> Uh, the first one is. um, stalking when we tried to serve them. court papers. The second one is stalking. when I. uh, made the GoFundMe. They couldn't get. me for stealing the Legos because. obviously they searched my house, there. was no Legos. They tried to get me for. >> accused of that at one point. You were.

accused of you being the one to steal. the Legos? >> Yeah, and so. >> so I found out that it's not Legos, it's. Lego. That's the plural, I found that. out. >> that out too, like two or three years. ago. >> thought it was Legos. >> calling it Legos the whole time also. >> Yeah, but you were accused of that at. one point? >> So, they got a search warrant to steal. search my house for stolen Legos. Obviously, they searched the house to. find no Legos and then they just. arrested everyone inside, which. all the people that were inside, they. didn't have probable cause to arrest. them. They're just in a house. Like, if. you search a house, that doesn't give.

you probable cause to arrest everyone in. the house, you know. Maybe you could say. I deserved it because I created this. GoFundMe. I thought the GoFundMe was. legitimate, you know, like, this guy was. like, it was stolen, let's just get the. money back, but uh I guess in the state. of Utah, they don't like it when you. reimburse. stuff like money for someone who got. their stuff stolen. And so, I'm doing. criminal charges for the GoFundMe, and. then I have. So, that's that's in uh American Fork, but I'm also getting charged in Provo. for extortion. So, after.

I basically just talked to the CEO, like, "Hey, can we like please have the. liquor back, you know?" I was pretty. nice to him, and then he calls the. police department and says that I I'm. sorry, guys, coming out in the video in. like 4 or 5 days. He calls the police. department and says, "Ben said if you. don't give the liquors back right now, I'm going to burn down the entire. building, and I'm going to shoot. everyone inside." And I'm like, I literally gave the police department. the entire raw footage of our entire.

interaction. That. there's nothing like that in there, and. they're still charging me for that. And. that one's a felony. It's a class B. felony they're getting me for. So, I don't know what's going on. Um I. guess we'll find out in court. That's. going to be exciting, but um yeah. >> After about By the way, as we're talking. about all this, do you regret jumping in. on this? I mean, you know, have you. taken precautions? >> It's awesome? You said it's awesome? >> Yeah, my whole career has been basically. trying to put myself in like super hard.

situations, and figuring out a way to. solve it, and like like, "Okay, we have. this huge problem, how are we going to. solve it?" And now I feel like I got a. pretty big problem, right? Like, this. company's using one of the best law. firms in the entire world to try and. destroy me from putting out this. documentary about them. How do I get out of this problem? It's a. huge problem, and I don't know, I can. come up with creative ways to get out of. it, I guess, so. Um no, this is like peak like what I. live for, you know? I love solving. problems. I love doing hard things and. this is exactly what I live for.

>> What's the response been like? Like for. example, I know the Patreon CEO is like. we're we want you on the platform. We're. not taking down your videos. Like have. you been receiving a lot of like support. online from maybe like people like uh. you know, influencers, celebrities? What. what's this been like the last 2 weeks? >> Well, it's been insane. Yeah. Um. I think every single top streamer now. has like reacted to my video. Uh Yeah, and all the top streamers are saying. that this is like the best video on all. of YouTube, which is crazy. Like.

to get like that's an insane like. compliment now. Um. And yeah, a lot of There's like a few. like celebrities reaching out, I guess. Um They're like. They're crazy people I like really. looked up to. It's like, "Wow, this. person watched my video and they liked. it." That's. That's kind of like their stuff, you. know? It's like kind of like cuz they're. like, "I'm your biggest fan." I'm like, "I'm your biggest fan." That's insane, you know? So it's like kind of Well, I. mean it's kind of like. >> this is this story's huge. This story is. huge. Everybody's talking about it right.

now. And and again, just going back for. a second, a a lot of it's the body cam, right? We did an episode, we showed the. body cam, but you believe that the body. cam doesn't tell the full story, right? And I think it was yesterday or the day. before. more body cam came out. Can you explain. to us what what the body cam says and. what the body cam doesn't show? >> So, I was in Utah for 4 days. I think it. was 4 days of. police interactions. And. basically, yeah, so there was 4 days of.

police interactions. And really the only. body cam footage that got leaked was a. little bit of the fourth day, but mostly. the third day. Um and so, we got to see. what Josh was telling the police. officers. He was basically saying I was. threatening to kill the manager of the. store, that I was doing all this crazy. stuff like And so, I think. it makes a little bit more sense now why. the police arrested me just because of. how much it kind of seems like. you know, like. and it's like peer pressure, you know, like these like the cool kids are like.

telling this person like, "Oh, you got. to do all these drugs. You got to do. this alcohol." And like, "Yeah, I know.". And if you just keep pressuring enough. and enough and finally they just break. and do what you were begging them to do. So, that's kind of what it seems like. was going on here, you know, he was just. begging them like, "We have to arrest. this guy. This guy's trying to kill me. If you don't arrest him, I'm going to. kill him." Type of thing, you know. And eventually I guess they were like, "Okay, I guess like we confirmed the. court case was real, but we're going to. arrest him anyways.". And so, uh I guess we have to see that. A lot of.

the stuff is still redacted or they. would turn their body cams off. So, they're like they would turn the audio. off. So, it's like, "Okay, we're right about to. hear get to hear like the juicy stuff.". And then uh they just turn their body. cam off. It's. I wanted to know what they were going to. say. >> So, it's So, in other words, it's not. like you're not denying what like took. but you're explaining the context of it. and why you were there and it's being. mis- You basically you're saying that. the the way it's being characterized um. is is inaccurate. I mean, let me ask you.

this. Like the sign, there was a report. of sign, I stole a dying man's life. savings that was put across the street. Did you put that up? >> Yeah, for sure. Um. basically we found this little patch of. land that's not owned by the HOA. And. so, it's like a bunch like gravel and. kind of like it. like doesn't look like cuz all the other. like plots of land like the grass is. like super nicely mowed and this patch. of land is just like un- like taken care. of. And so, we looked it up, that little. patch of land is public land for anyone.

to use. And so, I put a sign there that. says And the plan was we're going to put. the sign there, Josh is going to see the. sign, he's going to walk down and take. down the sign, boom, he's out of his. house, serve him the papers, boom, we. take him to court, get our money back, give it to Brian. That was the plan. Um and we have freedom of speech, we're. allowed to make fun of people, you know, like. like we're not I guess it's not. copyright because we're not claiming to. be him. Like we're obviously making fun. of him. That's what makes America great, you know, I'm allowed to make fun of. people. And I feel like I'm rightfully. able to make fun of him because that.

sound is accurate. He did steal a dying. man's life savings. And I think he. deserves to be made fun of. So, I think. I I I take full uh. um what's the word? I take uh. I'm thinking of a I can't think of a. word right now, but I I take. >> I take responsibility. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let me ask you this before I let. you go. What is next? What are you going. to do next? What are the next steps? What should we be looking out for? >> Um. Well, you mean like with the legal.

thing? I think What's next? Well, I'm. going to court, so. uh they said to me about a 2-year. process and it's going to be the. funniest court case ever if I had to. guess. They're getting me for a bunch of. fake threats that I never made. They're. getting me for. a GoFundMe. They're getting me for. uh. like sending a Mormon to his house to. take him back to heaven because I. thought he was going to hell. Like. Like how am I They I think they're. charging me I I calculated all the.

charges up on like ChatGPT and it said I. was going to go to jail for 147 years. for all the charges they got me on like. 30 charges or something. So, it's like. It's like I made a GoFundMe and they're. trying to send me to jail a life. sentence, you know, I mean like how does. that make any sense? This is the. goofiest court case I've ever heard of. >> Listen, Ben, I appreciate you coming on. I appreciate you explaining the. situation uh and taking the time. Thank. you very much. We're going to continue. to follow it. You have an open platform. to come on, explain the next. developments, but uh Ben Schneider,

check out his YouTube Reckless Ben. Thank you very much. >> Oh, thank you so much for having me. >> And that's all we have for you right now. here on Sidebar, everybody. Thank you so. much for joining us and as always, please subscribe on YouTube, Apple. Podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your. podcast. You can also check us out on. NBC's Peacock as well. If you want to. follow me, X, Instagram, my NewsNation. show, Jesse Weber Tonight, 11:00 p.m. Eastern, Monday through Friday. I'll see. you next time, everybody.