RECAP: Amber Heard's Sister Whitney Testifies in the Defamation Trial (Sidebar Podcast EP. 19)

I actually to this day have never seen. my sister fall so madly for somebody. Amber herd's sister Whitney Enriquez. takes the stand to testify in her. sister's defense we got along really. well at first um he was sober at the. time and Johnny wiy sober is very bright. and beautiful and lovely and kind and. generous and he was very easy to get to. know and frankly we all fell in love. with him at first I'm Anette Levy and. welcome to law and crime sidebar podcast. coming to you from the Fairfax County.

Courthouse in Virginia this is where we. take a deep dive into the biggest. moments of testimony in the case of. Johnny Depp versus Amber herd now. Whitney Enriquez this is Amber herd's. younger sister she was the only witness. on Wednesday to testify live in the. courtroom the rest of the witnesses. testified via video deposition and a. little background for you on Whitney. Enriquez she lived in the Eastern. Columbia building in one of Johnny. Depp's pen houses so she really had a. front row seat to the couple's.

relationship she told the jury about. what she observed about her sister's. relationship with Johnny Depp as it. progressed if if he was using or if he. was drinking there was almost always a. fight there was always an argument there. was always a period where they weren't. getting along and it seemed to oscillate. pretty quickly he would be sober for a. little bit and then almost just as. quickly fall off the wagon and start to. use or drink and there would be some big. blowout and it seemed to go back and. forth pretty frequently there was never.

an extended period of time where it was. one or the other Enrique has testified. that she used cocaine and drank alcohol. with Johnny Depp on many occasions she. testified about the early morning hours. of March 23rd 2015 that's when Amber. herd said that she found text messages. on Johnny Depp's iPad and they were text. messages between him and another woman. andri said that she was awake by her. sister telling her that Depp was chea. her andri gave her account of what.

happened at the top of the stairs. remember the top of the stairs that's. that big incident that we've heard so. much about and this is what happened in. Depp's Penthouse during that fight but. I'm I'm standing up there talking I'm. standing up there I'm at the top of the. stairs with my back to the stairs and. that's when Johnny runs up the stairs. and my again I'm facing Amber he comes. up behind me strikes me in the back kind. of just somewhere over here he's strikes.

me in the back I hear Amber shout don't. hit mying sister she smacks him lands. one and then he grabs at that point. that's when Travis runs up the stairs. after Amber landed one and but by that. time Johnny had already grabbed Amber by. the hair with one hand and was whacking. her repeatedly in the face with the. other as I was standing there Travis. pulls them apart I get Amber into mine I. close the doors behind me and lock them. I I then hear Johnny's voice.

shouting never mind with okay sorry I. hear Johnny's voice shouting you I hate. you I hate you both you you fucking. whores and I hear crashing I hear. crashing and banging and smashing and he. starts screaming like an. animal and I then just moved Amber into. the next room and I just kept her there. all night Enrique's account of what. happened at the top of the stairs. differs from the account given by Travis.

mcgivern who is one of Johnny Depp's. bodyguards he said that herd hit Johnny. Depp as he was trying to leave the penth. house with him and nurse Debbie Lloyd a. point on which Enriquez and mcgiver do. agree though is that Johnny Depp knocked. over clothing racks of Amber herds in. her room at times during enrica's. testimony Johnny Depp looked puzzled and. whispered to his lawyers he had. testified that he was close with Whitney. Enriquez and actually considered her. like a sister this podcast is sponsored.

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your own set of rules the link is in the. description on Cross examination John's. lawyer Rebecca lacos questioned Enriquez. about the incident at the top of the. stairs turning to the um the staircase. incident in March. 2015 um you testified that Mr Depp. allegedly hit you during that incident. right yes but you weren't sure if that. contact was even meant for you right I. honestly don't I don't know what he was. in before my back was to him and you.

weren't injured during that incident. right no I wasn't and you didn't seek. medical attention no and you said Debbie. Lloyd was there during all of that. correct she was and Mr Depp security. Travis mcgiver was there too yes he. was and you saw your sister hit Mr Depp. on the stairs that day right after he. struck me. yes you said she she landed one right.

and then the next day you found some. damage in the adjoining Penthouse. correct and we saw some pictures of what. you saw that day right. yes you thought it was important to. document that damage right not to. document um it was Kevin's job to kind. of clean up the houses take care of the. houses um I took pictures just so he. could be aware of what he would need to. bring um I didn't know if he had tools. here or whatever I was just preparing. him for what he was going to have to fix. but but you didn't take any pictures of.

your sister that day right no I didn't. laca Rose also questioned Enriquez about. a friend of hers you know who Jennifer. Howell is Right Miss Enriquez I do she's. the founder of the art of alium. nonprofit she is and you worked there. for a Time didn't you I did around May. 2015 you actually moved in with Miss. howal Right May. 2015. yes and you moved out of the pen houses. because at that point you and your. sister were fighting.

right it was yeah it was around the time. that you know he had accused me of. leaking stories and that was the impetus. of me leaving and you you testified. earlier I think that he had asked you to. sign an NDA right at some point and that. was around the same time that he was. concerned you were leaking stories about. their wedding to the media I believe. so um you and Miss how were close we. were close enough that you lived with. her for around a year I don't recall if.

it was that long and you confided you. confided in Miss how right about some. things yes she was my friend you called. her your chosen. sister so why did Rebecca lacar Ro ask. Enriquez about Jennifer how well I'll. tell you they were very good friends. after Enrique testified to this version. of events about the staircase in the UK. trial how came forward and filed a. declaration in the Virginia case Hal. wrote that Enriquez had told her about. the incident on the stairs and that.

Enriquez had told her that she had tried. to stop Amber herd from hitting Johnny. Depp not the other way around she also. said that she was afraid how says she. andrias was afraid that Amber herd might. kill Johnny Depp Hal said in the. statement that Whitney had told her she. endured that type of violence her entire. life first from her father and then from. Amber how went on to write that Whitney. told her that Amber herd had once thrown. a glass of red wine at her in an.

elevator in New York how also wrote that. after the incident in Australia in March. of 2015 that Whitney Enriquez told her. quote Oh my God she has done it now she. has cut off his effing finger we likely. didn't hear about this on Cross because. it's considered hearsay but will we hear. from how in Johnny Depp's rebuttal case. we just don't know it's not clear at. this time the cross examination. continued you grew up in Texas with your. sister and your parents right correct.

and you were really close with M herd. growing up we were and you're still. close now right we are and you love her. of course and your childhood though had. some difficult moments right it wasn't. perfect your father hit you and your. sister at times. right yes and your sister would protect. you um from that abuse when she could. wouldn't. she we would protect each other for sure. sure and when you graduated from high.

school you moved out to Los Angeles. right I. did and your sister gave you a place to. live in LA yes and she helped support. you um in in part I also was working. myself and yeah and you're grateful to. her for being there when you needed her. right of course and just like she. protected and cared for you you want to. protect and care for her right.

she and when I can of course but yeah. guess who else Jennifer how mentioned in. her declaration Elon Musk Amber herd's. ex-boyfriend how wrote that herd's late. mother Paige had told her that musk had. given Amber herd a Tesla and that she. thought it was bugged went on to write. that musk was controlling and abusive. and that he made Johnny Depp look like. either a saint or an angel how. attributed these comments to to Amber. herd's mother Paige who is now deceased.

Hal also stated in her declaration that. Whitney had told her that herd and musk. were in a legal battle over Frozen. embryos I contacted Jennifer how this. week and her publicist told me that she. is not talking to the Press also. Wednesday the jury heard from Rocky. Pennington we've heard a lot about her. she was Amber herd's former best friend. she was a friend of herds who lived at. the pen houses rentree and she said she. took a lot of the photographs of Amber. herd's injuries M herd ever uh paint on.

bruises or use makeup to make it appear. as if she had a bruise when in fact she. didn't to your no the. opposite what do you mean when you say. the. opposite she often had to cover bruises. and injuries on her face with makeup.

did. you see her cover bruises on her face. with. makeup yes it is Amber at a slight. profile in the same Courthouse. room her hair is behind her ear you can. see a picture of a bruise on her. cheekbone she looks like a skeleton. did you take this.

picture. yes based on your personal knowledge is. there any truth to the allegation that. Amber did this because she's quote a. gold digger no that does it for this. edition of Law and crime sidebar podcast. I'm Anette Levy coming to you from the. Fairfax County Courthouse in Virginia. we've been here all week long we will. have more great content coming up for. you on our YouTube channel. lawandcrime.com and also on the podcast. so stay with us and check us out another.

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