RECAP: Amber Heard Cross-Examined by Johnny Depp's Lawyer Camille Vasquez (Sidebar EP. 17)

I knew I had I knew I had to leave him I. knew I I wouldn't. I knew I wouldn't survive it if I didn't. so. I made the decision to. to file for divorce Amber Heard claiming. she filed for divorce from Johnny Depp. because he had been violent during their. marriage or was he Mr Depp is your. victim isn't he. no ma'am Depp's lawyer Camille Vasquez. flipping the script on cross-examination.

I pledged the entirety of the settlement. seven million. to fulfill those obligations. that's not my question I mean Jeanette. Levy and welcome to law and crimes. sidebar podcast where we take a deep. dive into the testimony in the. defamation trial of Johnny Depp V Amber. Heard Amber Heard second day on the. stand began with her recalling instances. in which she claims Johnny Depp. physically and sexually assaulted her. during their marriage Depp denies those.

claims heard had initially testified the. violence started in 2013 but on Monday. she said it was actually 2012. that was. the time heard said Depp hit her in the. face when she made a remark about one of. his tattoos she said she reviewed text. messages and Diaries to refresh her. memory how is it that you didn't just. remember all of those events like this. that's that's not how.

your memory or my memory works then her. denied telling her private nurse Aaron. Borum filotti that she had been addicted. to both liquor and cocaine and that she. had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. and eating disorders. when did you provide a client history to. Aaron filotti. okay never. when did you first get assigned Aaron. fellati uh I believe September of.

2014. okay now it says here. that client. um. reports a history of substance abuse. including an addiction to cocaine and. liquor. when did you have a substance a history. of substance abuse including addiction. to cocaine and liquor. I did not there's a lot of mistakes in. here okay so heard is basically.

suggesting that fellati who was hired to. provide medical care for her basically. wrote things in her patient notes that. weren't true. heard then tried to explain an audio. recording where she admitted hitting. Depp don't tell me what it feels like to. be punched you know even a lot of times. better. no when you have a closed fist. sorry I hit you like this but I did not. punch you I'm not.

hand what but you're fine I did not hurt. you and not punch you I was kidding you. how are your toes what am I supposed to. do. because you. because you start physical fights Amber. please explain to the jury what's. transpiring in that audio recording what. that's about well there's.

there's two different there's two. different situations that we're. referencing in this fight two different. altercations between Johnny and I. involved in the door. the first of which which we first start. talking about where I'm talking about. hitting him I am talking about. what that conversation is about is about. the disparity uh of this the disparity. between Johnny and I in our physical. fights the disparity of how he would. proactively punch me.

and I would have to resort to reactively. hitting him we've told you about the. defecation in the bed Johnny Depp said. his housekeeper found feces on his side. of the bed at the penthouse the morning. after herd's 30th birthday party in. 2016. well heard blames the Pooh on. Johnny Depp's dog Boo what if any issues. did Boo have with uh bathroom problems. if you will objection leading and. relevance overruled all that.

um. she had eaten uh Johnny's weed when she. was a puppy and had a bowel control. issues for her entire life among some. other issues she was you know we. regularly had to take her to the vet to. try to figure out. well what was wrong with this dog never. met a dog that was quite like this. um so she had some control issues. hence why we would she liked to burrow.

in the bed and she liked to be in the. you know by the foot of the bed. underneath the covers and it was um. customary that they slept in bed with us. but boo. having the issues she had we have to. leave her in bed so that she wouldn't be. encouraged to to go to the bathroom. um which would happen almost immediately. once you put her down on the floor now. remember Starling Jenkins one of Depp's. bodyguards said that herd called the. feces a practical joke gone bad why.

would that not be something you would do. first of all I don't think that's funny. I don't know what grown woman does I I. was not also in a pranking mood I had my. life was. falling apart I was um. at a Crossroads in my life I was really. serious and I had just been attacked on. my 30th birthday. by my violent husband with whom I was.

desperately in love. and knew I needed to leave. that was uh not really a jovial time and. I don't think that's funny period that's. disgusting heard then testified about. that critical date in May of 2016. it. was May 21st a Saturday night it was the. night that Johnny Depp said he went to. the penthouse to get his things he was. going on tour with his band in Europe he. said he had already told her that he. wanted a divorce heard said she had. called her friend IO tillett Wright when.

Deb got there Johnny hears this when. he's on the stairs he made it up one. flight of stairs heard this turned. around came bolting down the stairs. grab the phone from my hand. and really really started screaming this. time led into IO uh called IO every. imaginal every imaginable horrible name. that you can say to a LGBT Cube High.

person for one and and any person any. human being ever I mean just screamed. at IO um. some really nasty stuff and he when he. was done he says you know you want to. you want to have you want to have my. woman now you want to have my bitch you. can have you you take her you can have. her any. with that picks up just pulls his arm. back with the phone and throws it at my. face. hit me. right in my it felt like my eye.

I put my head in my hands. and immediately. start crying. um I. said you hit me with the phone Johnny. you hit me heard said dep then trashed. Penthouse five carrying a magnum sized. wine bottle two days later she filed for. divorce and four days after that she. obtained a domestic violence restraining. order against Depp who was in Europe.

touring with his band heard also. testified about her counterclaim against. Depp she claims Depp and his lawyer Adam. Waldman smeared her this is an article. that was in The Daily Mail. on 8 April. 2020. you see that. and then Michelle if you can move that. to the next page and. perfect.

it says. Adam Waldman Depp's lawyer said. afterwards Amber Heard and her friends. in the media use fake sexual violence. allegations as both a sword and a shield. depending on their needs they have. selected some of her sexual violence. hoax facts as the sword inflicting them. on the public and Mr Depp do you see. that. yes I do is this a true or false. statement. false.

and why is it false well. you have to use. to use what I've lived through and and. and and and what I've survived calling. it fake. saying that that I'm I'm harming. Johnny with this I'm harming the public. with this. is what I've lived through and to to say. that it's a hoax that these aren't even. real things.

I I mean. after everything I've I've lived through. and survived and also I hadn't even. spoken about the sexual abuse within my. marriage heard then told the jury that. she could not donate her seven million. divorce settlement from Depp to the ACLU. and the Children's Hospital of Los. Angeles because Depp was suing her to. date the Children's Hospital hasn't. received a dime from heard this podcast.

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30-day money-back guarantee so there's. no risk surf with your own set of rules. the link is in the description now to. the cross-examination that everyone's. been waiting for by Camille Vasquez. Depp's lawyer commentators have made a. lot about Depp's body language and the. fact that he doesn't ever look at Amber. Heard listen to Vasquez. Mr Depp hasn't looked at you once this. entire trial has he. not that I've noticed no. you've looked at him though many times.

haven't you. yes I have. you know exactly why Mr dab won't look. back at you don't you. I do. he promised you he would never you would. never see his eyes again isn't that true. I don't recall if you said that Vasquez. then played an audio recording from July. 2016 when Depp met heard in a hotel room. in San Francisco at her request this was. after she had obtained that domestic. violence restraining order she asked him.

is this how you want it to end. please stop me. please stop. [Music]. I just wanted.

[Music]. you and I will always be nothing to you. [Music]. each other. don't take my fucking glasses.

you know like fucking looking it's not. my fucking eyes you will not see my eyes. again. that's you and Mr death I'm not. recording that is and this is from when. you and Mr dot met in San Francisco in. July of 2016 right. yes that's what it sounds like that was. in the hotel we met once after that as. well. this is after you publicly accused him. of domestic abuse yes and got my tro. yeah and he tells you you will not see.

my eyes again doesn't he. uh yes he does in that recording and he. kept that promise hasn't he. as far as I know he cannot look at me. he won't look at you right Miss heard. he can't. Vasquez then questioned heard about the. recording where she told Depp to tell. the world he was a victim of domestic. violence. give us a security judged tell the world. Johnny tell them Johnny Depp I explained. that man I'm I'm a victim and I you know.

it's a fair fight it seems how many. people believe or besides of you. that's your voice on that recording. right yes it is you were speaking with. Mr Depp yes. and you said to Mr Deb quote you can. tell you can please tell people that it. was a fair fight and see what the jury. and the judge think tell the world. Johnny tell them Johnny Depp I Johnny. Depp a man a victim too of domestic. violence end quote that's what you said.

right. I was saying it to the man who beat me. up yes I thought it was preposterous. and the man you beat up numerous times. right was heard I could never hurt. Johnny. you're here in this courtroom because Mr. Depp finally told the world that he is. the victim of domestic violence. I know that he is suing me. um and has sued. other people or corporations that have.

said that as well. Vasquez also questioned heard about. photos she took of herself after she. claimed Depp hit her countless times. with this hand you know the hand with. the big chunky Rings your nose doesn't. appear to be injured and any of these. pictures does it misheard. I'm wearing makeup. your nose doesn't appear to be injured. in any of these pictures does it. misheard. that's why I'm wearing makeup right and. makeup covers up swelling right. makeup will not cover up swelling ice.

well though. ice will cover up swelling. ice produces swelling normally the. swelling after that kind of injury is. not as bad as you might imagine and for. me. it wasn't that bad I have a picture of. it underneath the makeup that's how I. know how to reference it. a picture you haven't produced or showed. to this jury right Miss hard I. absolutely I produce everything but you. haven't shown it to this jury I would. very much like to it's not my job it. appears Amber Heard might have been. throwing a little bit of shade at her.

attorneys suggesting photos existed that. were not shown to the jury Vasquez then. questioned her about her claim that she. donated the divorce settlement all seven. million dollars to the ACLU and the. Children's Hospital of Los Angeles this. is a clip from a European TV show in. October 2018 before the op-ed was. written seven million dollars in total. was donated to I split it between the. ACLU and Children's Hospital of Los.

Angeles sorry ACLU is a prominent. organization non-profit organization in. the United States it's called the. American civil liberties Union and they. work on behalf of marginalized. communities. on the ground and legislative reform. wanted nothing sitting here today. you have not donated the. million dollars divorce settlement to.

charity. I use Pledge and donation synonymous. with one another but I don't think. misheard. I don't use it synonymously that's how. donations are paid misheard respectfully. that's not my question. as of today. you have not paid 3.5 million dollars of. your own money to the ACLU yes or no. I have not yet. and as of today you have not paid 3.5.

million dollars of your own money to the. Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. correct I have not yet Johnny sued me so. as of today you have not donated. paid seven million dollars of your. divorce settlement to charity right. I have not been able to fulfill those. those obligations yet thing. and that's because you did want. something didn't you I didn't want. anything and I didn't get anything you. wanted Mr Duff's money.

didn't get it wasn't interested in it. heard claims she didn't want any of the. money for herself the cross ended for. the day with her admitting that Elon. Musk gave five hundred thousand dollars. to the ACLU to be credited to the amount. she said she would donate but heard said. it wasn't supposed to go toward her. pledge. remember Terence Doherty of the ACLU. said that heard never signed that pledge. form and interestingly enough heard. testified that she met musk at the Met.

Gala in 2016 but remember Alejandro. Romero who worked at the front desk at. the ECB he filed a witness statement in. the UK libel case in which he said Elon. Musk actually started visiting herd at. the ECB beginning in March 2015 when. heard was married to Deb and that heard. had given musk a key fob to access the. garage and penthouse. cross-examination will continue Tuesday. that's it for this edition of Law and.

crime's sidebar podcast I'm Anjanette. Levy and thanks so much for joining us. you can catch our podcast on Apple. Spotify YouTube and wherever else you. get your podcasts we'll see you next. time. [Music].