Pooh Shiesty Allegedly Caught Robbing Gucci Mane in 'Leaked' Video

Let them know you dropping. You. dropping. No, shit, nigga. Pooh Shiesty. dropping 1017. >> New video and details are emerging in a. major federal case where prosecutors. claim rapper Pooh Shiesty [music] held. his former colleague Gucci Mane at. gunpoint all in an attempt to break free. from [music] his reporting contract. So. now, as Pooh Shiesty is fighting to get. out of jail before trial still months. away, the government. >> [music]. >> is revealing more alleged misconduct. claiming he can't be trusted on the. street. [music] We've combed through new. filings to bring you the very latest on.

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opus.pro/. sidebar to get a free week and then 50%. off. Have you seen this clip that's been. floating around online? You probably. have. Now, it's not clear exactly where. it came from or how content creators got. their hands on it, but we'll talk about. that, too. But it purportedly shows the. moment when Pooh Shiesty, real name. Lontrell Williams Jr., and his. co-defendants allegedly held rapper and. record executive Gucci Mane at gunpoint.

Allegedly, it was all because Pooh. Shiesty wanted out of his recording. contract. Now, we're going to bring on. Bradford Cohen, attorney to the stars, and represented Pooh Shiesty at one. point in time in this case until. recently. But, we'll get his perspective. on all this. But, just take a look at. the video for yourself.

So, we corroborated this clip's apparent. authenticity with the screenshots from a. federal filing that appear to show the. same people in the same studio. Because. in the screenshots, the guy who appears. to be Gucci Mane, his face is redacted. with the label RD, so presumably. standing for his real name, Roderick. Davis. Pooh Shiesty is also reportedly.

allegedly visible wearing his signature. balaclava. You can also see who appears. to be one of his co-defendants. identified by the feds as Demarcus. Glover standing near Gucci Mane, allegedly holding a large gun. And the. feds claim that Rodney Wright Jr., also. known as Big 30, is the one who's. actually doing the recording. We also. know that federal prosecutors submitted. a USB with digital evidence to the court. on June 25th. This was a major. escalation in this case. It's the latest.

evidence to emerge against Pooh Shiesty. because he stands accused of. orchestrating this alleged brazen. kidnapping and robbery plot. And the. reason this USB and the video and the. evidence has come out recently is in. response to a request from Pooh. Shiesty's legal team to re-examine the. conditions of his pre-trial detention. Because Pooh Shiesty has been locked up. since he and his co-defendants, including his father, Lon Trell Williams. Sr., were indicted on charges of.

conspiracy to commit kidnapping, kidnapping, conspiracy to commit. extortion, extortion, those kind of. crimes. Now, according to the. indictment, Pooh Shiesty allegedly. arranged a meeting with Gucci Mane at. this office building in Dallas, Texas. This is where the music label 1017. apparently has a recording studio. Pooh. Shiesty had been apparently signed to. the label since 2021, but reportedly. wanted out of his contract. Now, how. he's accused of trying to get out of. that is interesting because prosecutors. claim that he didn't, you know, go. through a lawyer. They claim he used the.

threat of violence to get what he. wanted. And then they accuse him and his. alleged co-conspirators of robbing Gucci. Mane and his entourage on the way out. The defendants' arrival, by the way, at. the building was reportedly captured on. the building's security cameras, and. screenshots of the footage were included. in the criminal complaint. And this is. new, by the way, a text thread included. in the government's response to Pooh. Shiesty's bail request that allegedly. shows the plan in the making. It says,

quote, Williams Jr., using the name. Michael Myers, discussing needing 630 or. certified, which is believed to refer to. certified gang members for that. Saturday, January 10th, 2026. Someone. else in the thread says, "I got the cat. and TRX." Prosecutors believe the cat. refers to a 2020 Dodge Charger Hellcat. belonging or allegedly belonging to. defendant Rodney Wright's father, which. was reportedly seen on camera leaving. the office building, right, the alleged. crime scene. This is according to the.

criminal complaint. And investigators. claim that the crew took luxury items. from Gucci Mane and other people, other. alleged victims, including a necklace, a. chain, watches, a Louis Vuitton bag, and. according to prosecutors, what's. believed to be the same items later. appeared on the defendants' social media. pages. And despite what you may call. what you can arguably call, again, they're innocent unless proven guilty, but arguably call the apparent avalanche. of evidence against him, Pooh Shiesty's legal team is fighting to.

get him out of jail. So, a judge had. denied Pooh Shiesty's bail earlier this. year, but his lawyers want that review. By the way, his trial's been pushed back. to February 2027. There's a lot that can. change between now and then, but his. team says he should be released with. strict conditions up until his trial. Before we even talk about the arguments. in that filing, I just want to go a. little bit back and I want to talk a. little bit about Pooh Shiesty's past. experiences with the justice system cuz. it's important. In April of 2022, a.

federal judge out in Miami had sentenced. Pooh Shiesty to 63 months, a little more. than 5 years in prison. And as part of a. plea deal, he pled guilty to one felony. count of conspiracy to possess firearms. in furtherance of violent and drug. trafficking crimes. According to. charging documents in that case, Pooh. Shiesty was believed to have been part. of a group that shot two people and. stole drugs and high-end sneakers at a. hotel in Miami-Dade County back in 2020. Pooh Shiesty, he was released from the. Bureau of Prisons, the BOP, in October. of last year. And the rapper apparently.

signed paperwork last fall outlining all. the rules that he would have to follow. while on home detention. According to. that paperwork, Pooh Shiesty agreed, quote, "I will not drink alcohol. beverages of any kind. I will submit to. urinalysis or alcohol testing as. requested by the RRC probation." In its. motion for review of pretrial detention, Pooh Shiesty's legal team stated, quote, "He reported for every required. urinalysis. He never tested positive. He.

complied with all conditions of home. detention without exception." Here's the. thing. Two sides, according to Texas. prosecutors, the rapper had not been. following the rules. The feds filed. several exhibits with the court, including incident reports regarding. Pooh Shiesty's alleged refusal to. undergo urinalysis tests at the VOA, or. Volunteers of America, which contracts. with the BOP. So, for example, one. report says, quote, "Client was informed. on March 21st, 2026, in the morning that.

he needed to report to the VOA facility. to provide a UA. Later that evening, the. client was contacted by phone as a. reminder to report again for the UA. The. client stated that he did not have. transportation as his producer was out. of town. The client then asked if he. could report first thing the following. morning. I informed the client that I. would need to obtain approval and would. call him back. After speaking with Ms. Blair regarding the situation, she. approved the client reporting the next. morning. I then contacted the client and. informed him that he was required to. report on March 22nd, 2026, at 10:00. a.m. The client stated that he.

understood. On March 22nd, 2026, at. approximately 20:01, the client had not. shown up. Another report states, "On. November 9th, 2025, at approximately. 1:39 p.m., client Lantrell Williams was. asked to produce a urine sample. The. sample that was provided was cold and. did not read between 90 to 100 degrees. Supervisor was notified, who then. advised to write up as a refusal." The. government also apparently produced. these text messages that were allegedly.

sent by Pooh Shiesty that they say prove. he was drinking despite the rules. against it. So, one, for example, allegedly from October 13th, says, quote, "High and drunk.". October 18th, quote, "I'm drunk.". January 25th, quote, "Getting drunk.". And in a conversation, seemingly from. January 31st, Pooh Shiesty seemingly. texted, "What's up? I just got up. I've. been tore up.". Person responds, "You was drunk, LMAO.".

And Pooh Shiesty reportedly replied, "Yeah, man. Passed out in the studio.". You know what else? The rapper even. reportedly got into a car accident while. drunk in February. That's a new. allegation. There was a text message, a. text thread, that was included in the. government's motion and includes this. exchange, quote, I got in a wreck. What. the F? How? You was drunk? Yep, but. somebody hit me. So, look, it seems he. arguably, allegedly, wasn't super. cooperative with the terms of his.

release, right? That's the allegation. And get this, the feds claim that Pooh. Shiesty. was essentially in cahoots with a case. supervisor who helped get him day. passes. Here's what the response says, quote, investigators have now learned. that Williams Jr. was involved in an. inappropriate relationship with at least. one of his VOA case supervisors and that. his VOA employee was actively involved. in entering fake day passes that would. allow Williams Jr. to travel to. unapproved locations while he was. supposed to be confined to his.

residence. This misconduct extended to. the day of the kidnapping itself on. January 10th, 2026. On that day, the. employee entered three day passes. allowing Williams Jr. to travel and. contacted him 19 times over the course. of the day. VOA later terminated the. employee for this conduct. Makes me. think, is that going to be a key witness. at an upcoming trial? But what else did. the defense present as a reason for why. Pooh Shiesty should be let out of jail? Well, according to them, the star. witness in this case, Gucci Mane,

recanted. Yeah, from their motion, it. says, quote, strip away what the. government does not have and what. remains is this. RD, Raddrac Davis, or. seemingly Raddrac Davis, told Dallas. police on the night of January 10th that. Mr. Williams pulled a gun on him, forced. him to sign a contract release, and. robbed him of his jewelry. That. statement, relayed through an FBI agent. who was not present at the incident and. who did not interview RD herself, is the. sum total of the government's case as. presented on on core offense. Special.

Agent Hanson conceded on cross that the. FBI has not taken a formal statement. from any of the five alleged victims in. the four months since the incident. More. damaging still, RD, the man at the. center of this case, has gone on social. media and denied that any of this. occurred. He has posted videos. repudiating the government's account, and according to defense counsel's. unchallenged representation to the. magistrate judge, has displayed the. allegedly stolen jewelry as if it were. still in his possession. Agent Hanson. did not know about these posts and.

confirmed that no one from the FBI had. spoken to RD after they appeared. A. complaining witness publicly recanting. the offense is not a minor evidentiary. wrinkle. It is a fundamental problem. Look, if that's true, it could really be. damaging to the feds' case. But. remember, Gucci Mane wasn't the only. alleged victim of this purported. shakedown. In fact, the man identified. in court documents as CW, so reportedly. one of Gucci Mane's security guards, submitted an impact statement to the. court urging that Pooh Shiesty remain.

locked up. In it, he wrote, quote, "Prior to this incident, Mr. Williams. was given a second chance and was. granted bail bond with monitoring. conditions. Despite those conditions, he. was once again accused of committing. another crime that resulted in a person. being shot. My wife and I are both. afraid of what his mindset might be if. he's released. Since the incident, I. have found myself watching vehicles. passing by my home, worried that he or. someone connected to him may attempt to. harm me or my family. I have young. children, and because of this fear, I. have limited their ability to go outside.

and enjoy normal activities as they. should. Judge, I respectfully ask that. you consider the safety and security of. my family and me when making your. decision regarding bond. I believe. keeping Mr. Williams detained is. necessary to protect us and prevent even. further harm. Thank you for taking the. time to hear my concerns. Respectfully, CW, Texas victim and survivor. So look, the defense is hoping for home. confinement. They want conditions that. are similar to those that he was under. after his release from prison. So, 24-hour home confinement, GPS.

monitoring, continuous third-party. monitoring managed by a retired FBI. special agent and a retired DEA special. agent. Pooh Shiesty could reportedly. secure the bail with up to eight. properties. His team suggests that he. surrender all travel documents and. passports, that there be no contact. order regarding both the alleged victims. and the co-defendants or way to kind of. alleviate any concerns there might be if. he's released. But, the government. responded. The government followed up. with a 25-page response including.

several exhibits that challenged some of. the defense's arguments. For example, they say that the quote release of. contract, which the defense argued was. never found, was discovered. That it. would seem that the purported video of. the incident would support that. The. prosecution also pointed out that even. if Pooh Shiesty wears an ankle monitor, it apparently doesn't deter him from. allegedly committing crimes. He was. wearing one when this whole alleged. kidnapping and robbery happened. So, look, the judge has not ruled on. whether bail will be granted, but you.

know we're going to stay on top of this. and see what happens. Okay, so we got a. special guest. I want to welcome back on. Bradford Cohen. So, not only criminal. defense attorney to the stars, had. represented Pooh Shiesty at one point in. this criminal case. Thank you so much. for taking the time. Always good to see. you. This is a significant development. I mean, the last time you and I talked. about this, there was a question, well, what does really the government have? What's their evidence? >> Sure. >> I mean, they seem to have this video and. they seem to have a copy of the. contract.

Feels like it's going to be tough for. the defense. >> Sure. So, there's a couple ways to look. at this. Number one is when this case. was originally filed, why I thought this. case was so done in a sloppy manner is. because they didn't have any of this, right? They were looking for this stuff. They didn't do any search warrants that. they could get the stuff early on. They. didn't do any physical search warrants. in terms of locations. They just didn't. do the work originally on this case. What they did is they just indicted. So, my original argument was they don't have. any of this stuff, which they didn't.

Since [snorts] that time period, obviously, they've done their work and. they started to discover these things. Now, I would be foolish to say, "Wow, this is a a great video for the. defense." because it's not. But, at the. same token, my argument at the bond. hearing, which I conducted, was. even if they had all this evidence, it. still does not rise to the level of a. federal kidnapping charge. The charges. that they charged him with do not meet. the evidence that they have, the actual. elements. So, it's really a legal.

argument. I understand like the. populace, and I posted on my Instagram. today, and the opinion is like, "Oh, he's cooked. And this that he Oh my god, he's in the all these different things.". They don't understand the legal argument. behind it. Now, this may be a state. case. It may be some state arguments. There may be other federal charges that. should have been filed, but not a. federal kidnapping charge. >> Explain to me why it doesn't fit that. >> So, in order to fit a federal kidnapping.

charge, there needs to be a benefit, and. that benefit needs to be proven, and. their benefit, their theory of this. benefit, that's one element, by the way. The second element is that there's some. sort of interstate commerce clause that. comes into effect. They can't prove. these weapons were made out of the state. of of Texas, which generally, that's how. they bring cases in federal court, kidnapping cases. They It has to affect. interstate commerce. So, then they say, "Oh, well, maybe their cell phones were. commute They were communicating on their.

cell phones." That doesn't make any. sense because they didn't show any of. that. >> What about travel? >> So, the travel would have to be proven. that they traveled specifically to. kidnap or specifically to commit this. crime. They have not proven that. So, that was my original argument. I had. case law that backed that up, and I. really think that it was a very, very. articulate argument that the court just. was not She She just didn't want to take. it under advisement. She just saw like, "Okay, this FBI agent came in. She says. there's a kidnapping. I'm going to say. there's a kidnapping." The The actual.

judge in the case, who looked at the. evidence at the time, said, "I don't see. where this is a federal kidnapping case. for Big 30 and the and and Pooh's dad on. their bond hearing, they appealed to the. judge. And the judge said, "I don't see. a federal kidnapping case here. I'm. going to give them a bond." So, that is. still the argument. Now, are there other. federal charges or different federal. charges that they may look at? Sure. But. this was done so hastily and sloppy. They should have had it the right.

indictment with the right charges from. day one, and I think it would have been. a cleaner case for the defense and a. cleaner case for the government. >> Is it extortion? Is it extortion? Is it. conspiracy to commit extortion? >> I think that there's an argument for. that. I think there's some arguments for. those for those issues. Again, you're. still going to run into whether or not. it's a federal extortion as opposed to a. state extortion case. I think there's. just some issues there, legal issues. that need to be raised in case there's. an appeal or in case there's things of. that nature. Now,

the X factor here is that there's many. defendants, and whenever you have many. defendants, you know as well as I do, you know, the best crime is committed by. one person. The worst crime is committed. by eight, because out of the eight, you. know, seven might be probably going to. flip on the one. So, I think that's what. their bigger concern is is that, you. know, these individuals are going to. flip on on Pooh or his dad or Big 30, cuz those are the people that they. really want, and the other people are. kind of peripheral. So, and and they.

might not have enough money for good. attorneys. There's so many things that. take place in these type of cases where. there's multiple co-defendants that it. starts to kind of fall apart at that. point. >> So, let's assume for a moment, let's say. in this theory that it does match up to. the federal charges. Let's just put that. for a second. If I look at this video. and I'm wondering how does a defense. attorney explain it away? Is it one argument he wasn't being. serious, he wasn't serious? Like it's a. weird clip. It is a little bit of a. weird clip. Like you see a guy allegedly.

with a gun, one of the allegedly one of. the co-defendants. He's there's like. saying to the camera, "I'm released from. the contract." He's like. it's a weird video. And And you know one. of the arguments that's being made, and. correct me if I'm wrong, is that Gucci. Mane doesn't like like he didn't take. this seriously. Like went on social. media and then kind of the I mean. defense says that he recanted what. happened. Is there any way you can look. at that video and be like this wasn't. serious? Like it was up like it was I. don't know, it's not staged, but it was. a gimmick or it was a I don't know if. that's anything, but.

>> Yeah. Am I wrong about that? >> Not wrong. I I mean there's a lot of. ways to look at the video depending on. the evidence that comes out. When I look. at this video, if this video is if. they're going to say this video is is an. actual video that's not staged or not a. joke or things like that that you could. make those arguments or there's evidence. that shows that it's not. Here's the. issues that come up, right? Number one. is the statement was is that Pooh had an. AK-47. Pooh was the one who was forcing him to. sign a a document with an AK-47. In the. video, Pooh does not have a weapon in.

his hand. He allegedly is filming it. In the In. the statement, they were saying Big 30. was filming it and that Pooh was the one. with the weapon. Then they also say that. they take all the jewelry, that the. jewelry is taken before or after he goes. into the into the studio. You see Gucci. with his. well, allegedly Gucci with his diamond. earrings and it's still in his ear. That. was one of the things that he said they. made them he made them take out the. diamond earrings in his ear. So, why. wouldn't if that was the case, why.

wouldn't they have robbed him right. there on you know, they're taking this. video, shut the video off, rob them. right there in the studio instead of. waiting until they got out of the studio. and then robbing him. There's still a. lot of issues there with the video, even. if we were to assume that this video is. not weird, but it is super weird. And. the way that. >> at the end at the end of the day, there's a guy that looks like he has a. gun with him as he's telling him, "Tell. him I'm released from the contract." I. mean, another argument is it looks. straightforward based on based on the.

accounts, based on what the prosecution. has alleged, it seems to match up to the. narrative of what's in that video. >> Well, he's also saying something like, "I already said you're you're out of. your contract. I already said that you. were out of your contract." It's just. the the body language is weird, the. conversation is weird, um and I have had. a lot of conversation with Gucci before. this all occurred, you know, um I was. very friendly with Gucci during Pooh's. first case cuz I represented Pooh on his. first case. And I really love Gucci. Like I I think he's a a good dude. And.

to see this video, it just doesn't seem. like this would be Gucci's Whether or. not there's a gun in the scene or not, I. know Gucci like the old Gucci, and I. don't think that the way that this was. broached with him and his hands in his. pocket saying like, "Hey, you're out of. your contract" very calmly, all the. things that are going on, it seems. really unusual for Gucci to be in this. position. And I understand, everyone's.

like, "Well, he there's AK-47, there's a. lot of guys there." Like. I mean, between me and you, Gucci used. to be John Wick. Like, you know, like. not not the violent John Wick, but the. mindset of like, "I don't care if. there's a million guns." Like, you know, that's just Gucci. So, I don't ever. picture Gucci I don't ever picture him. uh with his hands in his pocket saying, "Yeah, I'm good." And I don't care who's. in the room. >> That's going to be the uh that's going. to be the YouTube title for this video. And you know, [laughter] John Wick is uh.

the new Excuse me, Gucci Mane is the new. John Wick. Um. look, this is all being brought because. of pre-trial detention, right? This is. all being brought about whether or not. Pooh Shiesty there should be a change in. his pre-trial detention, should he be. released? At the very least, the rules. of evidence, the standard is different. when you're having an analysis in terms. of. pre-trial detention versus whether or. not somebody is guilty beyond a. reasonable doubt. Do you think that this. is sufficient for the prosecution to. establish he shouldn't be released or. there shouldn't be any changes? >> I think it's it weighs very heavily in.

the on the side of the government. I. think the defense has some work to do. I. would start subpoenaing people to this. bond hearing. Let them object to who. you're going to subpoena. I'd like to. see if individuals who gave statements. previously are still sticking to those. statements. I think that's really. relevant. And even during my bond. hearing, when I had the bond hearing. with Pooh, you know, the FBI agent is. like, I haven't even had any contact. with any of the victims since the. incident. I didn't even have contact.

with them at the incident. I read a. police report. I did my my due. diligence. And I I She didn't even write. the report. They put on an FBI [snorts]. agent that did not author a report, that. did not gather any information, that did. not gather any evidence. It was really a. sloppy bond hearing. They were lucky. because the magistrate was on their. side. But if that was in front of a judge that. was paying attention, and I don't No no. disrespect to the magistrate, but I. think if if there was a judge who was.

really paying attention to the law and. what they presented at that bond. hearing, I think it might have been a. different story. I know everyone says, "Oh, it's an uphill battle." I mean, listen, everything for me is an uphill. battle. But that's where, you know, that's why I'm Brad Cohen. >> [laughter]. >> I love it. I love it. The the modesty. Before I let you go, big component about. this is the contract, right? The. contract that was printed out in the. store and then. now it seems the prosecution says, "Hey, we got it. We can show it to you." Is. that significant?

>> Um I think it definitely helps their. narrative. >> I mean the release of it, right? The. release. >> I I think it helps their narrative. And. here's another thing that's that's. really. not normal is that this evidence is. being released. Obviously, it's not the. defense releasing it. Um this evidence. is being leaked into the press, obviously by the government, which is. also a a nasty move that they do on. basically any case. They never They. never let the defense leak the good. stuff, but the government always leaks. anything that's bad, and then the judges.

just let it go. Like it's never really. addressed in court how this video got. out, who sent the video out, why it went. out, how did they get a hold of it. There's never ever any very infrequently. are there investigations of the. government. But, putting that aside, uh. the the having the physical contract is. definitely If it's a signed physical. contract, if it's just a physical. contract without his signature on it, I. don't know how much further that gets. them. It definitely gets them, you know,

a little bit further, but if it's not. the signed contract, where's the signed. contract? Why it was it never used? Why. did the record executives never get. noticed that he is now dropped off. Why did he never shop himself around to. other labels after allegedly he was. dropped from Gucci's label? So, all. those things come into question if this. was a real deal thing and this really. happened the way they said it did, then. why didn't he go out the next day and. start negotiating contracts with.

Columbia Records or Sony or whatever and. say like, "Hey, I'm not I'm no longer on. 1017. I want to make my own deal." That. never happened, and you don't see any. emails saying that, "Hey, we're going to. renegotiate or anything like that." So, that's really, I think, a hole in their. case. Is it an impossible case to win? Um I never find any case impossible to. win. There's always a way to win. It's. whether or not arguments are presented. correctly, motions are filed that need. to be filed, evidence that can be.

excluded can be excluded. So, all those. things really come down to your legal. prowess. It's not just the story that. the government is telling. It's also. whether or not the elements are met and. how their elements are met. >> Well, let's see what happens. We got. some time between now and February 2027. if that trial should actually happen at. that point. Bradford Cohen, thank you so. much for coming on and giving your. perspective on this. Appreciate it as. always. >> The best. The best. Jesse Weber is. always the best. >> Love it. Thanks, man. That's all we have.

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