Phoenix Cop Accused of Creating X-Rated Content for Twitter Fans While on Duty

a police officer accused of starring in. porn while on duty former sheriff's. deputy and SWAT team member Chad Ayers. talks about what we can expect from this. internal investigation welcome to. sidebar presented by law and crime I'm. Jesse Weber. let's go over to Phoenix Arizona where a. police officer is under investigation. for creating and distributing. pornography while on duty now if you. thought that I was about to splice in a. shot of any of these videos or anything.

like that this is sidebar okay we're a. classy operation here I wouldn't do that. but truth be told all jokes aside this. is a very wild accusation I mean we're. talking about 30 year old Christian. Goggins and it is alleged that while on. home assignment for unrelated and. non-disciplinary reasons Goggins would. produce and star an x-rated pornographic. films apparently he was Distributing. them on his Twitter account an account. called Rico Blaze the New York Post. reported that he was making these kind. of movies or this pornography in 2019.

this was even before he joined the. Phoenix Police Department and as I. mentioned he is now under internal. review so let me bring in Chad Ayers. former sheriff's deputy for Greenville. County in South Carolina former member. of the SWAT team where he served as an. assistant team leader and our resident. or one of our resident law enforcement. experts here on sidebar Chad good to see. you Jesse thanks for having me you know. what I when you sent the article I knew. this guy looked familiar for some reason. yeah yeah.

because you worked with them right yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah sorry sorry yeah. well Chad let's start here if this is. true if this is true right you know. we're this is law it's innocent until. proven guilty it and he's not even. committed crime but if this is true. how do you feel about it yeah so Jesse. first and foremost uh when when you sign. up for this job we are held to a as a. law enforcement officer we're held to a. higher standard. um more than just the average citizens. our our duty and and the way we present.

ourselves on duty and off duty. um is held to a higher standard and so. there's uh when you when you get on you. get your rules and regulations you get. your general order bucks. um and and I'm sure we'll go into this a. little bit more but there is probably. more than likely a policy violation here. okay let's start there in other words it. wouldn't matter whether or not he was on. duty making this these pornographic. films or off duty meaning in the after.

hours the fact that he was doing it if. he's a porn star that in and of itself. could be reasons for him to be. disciplined or fired yep so so the way. ours read and I might have a a word here. or there off but basically it was. conduct Unbecoming of an officer says an. officer shall conduct himself or herself. at all times both on and off duty in. such a manner as to reflect the most. favorably on the department and when you. have a police officer that is producing.

uh pornographic films and having sex and. posing naked and everything else let's. be honest I haven't looked at these. videos. um but from what we can tell that does. not look favorably on the department. yeah I I. I don't mean to laugh but on this. Twitter account it said I create art and. my eggplant Emoji is the pen I don't. have to explain what that means I guess. the question is where's the lime because.

I think we're in an interesting. discussion here where there are people. you see articles all the time about law. enforcement officers on the side making. money through only fans and now we have. this gentleman who I can't tell if he. was making money or if it was just for. art is there a line is it maybe Hey. listen if he was let's say he was a. regular model let's say he was doing. print advertising and he was shirtless. for Abercrombie and Fitch or something. like that is that not right I mean is it. the degree of what he's doing on there.

what is the line and should there be a. line. no I I look I absolutely think there. should be a line. um one even in our own Department back. at home when I when I was there uh when. social media started to come into the to. the equation we had a clause put in that. basically you cannot post yourself uh in. uniform on social media even if you're. just out to dinner with your family so. now you see on social media a lot of uh. officers uh will post pictures of. themselves in uniform and they're. getting around it a little bit by.

blurring out their patches or their. badges to so people don't see you know. who they're representing there. um but you know I think when it comes. down to it when you when you go back to. say well what if this guy was just a. normal model on the side. um one I think that where I came from. any type of secondary employment or or. extra income whether you Mo we had guys. that mowed graphs on the sides had. Landscaping businesses that had to be. approved through the department in order. to you know have that secondary income.

probably for that reason uh alone you. know I I don't know a department in this. country that's going to have a. let's just say a female officer comes to. him and says hey uh making a little. money on the side working at the strip. club on Saturdays. um it's not gonna you know there's. there's too much. um especially in that line of work. there's a lot of Investigations for. prostitution that goes on in strip clubs. there's drugs that go through those. types of places so again uh any type of. employment needs to go a secondary.

employment needs to go through the. department but it Jesse it all goes back. to following rules and regulations. um and you know I think that a while ago. there was a great podcast done by our. friend you know on Sean Larkin where an. officers in dejas was involved in only. fans it takes a lot to go into that but. there's you know it goes back to. following your rules and regulations. period And I think there's something. good about that I think it's good to. hold members of law enforcement or the.

military to a different standard I guess. the counter argument would be and this. is still so early if I'm doing my job. great and I have you know been doing. great work for the Department I've been. I'm just giving an example here let's. say to somebody who has a great a record. with the Department in terms of arrests. and busts and citations. you know how much of what they do on the. side should that affect it because in. the end of the day if they decide to. fire him uh they might be losing a. really good officer.

well I think we've got to look in in the. news articles that I have read. um and like you mentioned earlier he was. on duty but working from home so maybe. he was had some type of injury or. something like that. I know plenty of officers who have been. caught and charged for you know double. dipping so basically you're on duty so. we had you know a prime example we had. an officer that was on duty but at the. same time he was in a role that you know. was minimally supervised he was working.

on the interstate directing traffic and. helping with construction sites so now. you're getting paid to do your job now. you're double dipping now we've got some. you know it's almost like an. embezzlement type of ordeal at that. point and this guy was criminally. charged. um so I would go back and looking at. this article at face at a minimum you've. got a guy that is making money on the. side while working that's the biggest. problem for me that's the biggest. problem that he was on duty and when.

again you're on duty you have a job to. do a very important job and to be doing. this that's the biggest problem so an. internal investigation what is that. going to look like what do you think the. penalty will be uh and how do you think. that this is overall going to conclude. man it's so hard to say in in this day. and age 2022 going into 2023. I've seen. uh such a change in internal. investigations. um and the outcomes I would say uh let's. be honest if this was back in the 80s. this guy would have been gone already.

um so with an internal investigations. you have an IA Department that their job. is to investigate complaints or. misconduct in office. um so what I gather is they're going to. look into this they're probably going to. pull times uh time stamps on when these. videos were produced or uploaded they're. going to interview this gentleman ask. questions. and at that point leadership Command. Staff is going to come together and say. was there a policy violation and does.

this policy violation meet a termination. does it meet a suspension does it meet a. write-up I don't know what those. standards are for for this department I. know where I'm from uh the internal. investigation wouldn't last very long. um but there is it comes back to being. held to a higher standard. hey real quick Chad before I let you go. how did he make it through the vetting. process if he was making these kinds of. films or art.

um before he joined the police force how. did how was he not vetted so in a. background check when you go on into any. law enforcement whether local state. federal you're sent a packet and you. fill out a questionnaire an extensive. questionnaire it goes all the way back. to did you ever steal an ink pen and. middle school or anything like that then. your uh recruitment Department starts. going through that highlighting. questionable things whether it was hey I. smoked weed in college whatever that is.

they're gonna then start looking at okay. what happened here. um but with this what I think happened. is he's using a different name on his. Twitter thread that probably wasn't. picked up on all right I don't think. anyone was searching. whatever that name was. um I personally I think that if that. would have come up in the. hiring process we probably wouldn't be. here today yeah they weren't searching. for Rico Blaze uh for the uh or the uh.

or the Emoji or the Emoji or the Emoji. Chad Ayers thanks so much for coming on. and talk about this I know we had a. little fun with it but you know it is an. interesting it's a serious accusation. for him it is his life I think it you. know it's a member of law enforcement. you don't like to see this but I I think. it's worthy of talking about nonetheless. because as you said and as we talked. about we're seeing these kinds of. conversations more and now but more and. more about officers taking certain kinds. of jobs uh clearly there's a difference. doing it on the side and actually doing. it when they're on the clock but it's an.

interesting discussion nonetheless and. Chad Ayers thanks for taking the time I. appreciate it Jesse always great to join. you and that's all we have for everybody. here on sidebar thank you so much for. joining us please subscribe on Apple. podcast Spotify YouTube wherever you get. your podcast I'm Jesse Weber I'll speak. to you next time. thank you.