Murdered Ex-GF's Eerie Voicemail Reveals Shocking Details About 'Stalker' Trooper

Hi there, my name is Lauren Seamanchek. Um, I was looking to file a police. report or potentially even a restraining. order against my ex-boyfriend who um, he's also a state trooper, so I'm. especially uncomfortable. >> That was Dr. Lauren Semenche back in. May, leaving a message for police asking. for help against her ex-boyfriend, a New. Jersey state trooper. Her call was. apparently never returned. And just. weeks later, Lauren and her new. boyfriend, Tyler Webb, were gunned down. outside of her Franklin Township home.

And now, newly released 911 calls from. neighbors and a looming lawsuit are. shedding light on a tragedy that her. family insists could have been. prevented. We are going to break it all. down with New Jersey police Captain Tom. Rizzo. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by. Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber. [Music]. All right, we got to talk about this. We. got to talk about this latest. development in the tragic case of Dr. Lauren Seman. And it comes from a. chilling voicemail that she left with.

police and it's one that her family says. was never returned. In that message. recorded on May 20th, 2025, the. 33-year-old veterinarian sounded both. calm and deeply uneasy as she tried to. take steps to protect herself from her. ex-boyfriend, New Jersey State Trooper. Ricardo Santos. Um, I was looking to file a police. report or potentially even a restraining. order against my ex-boyfriend who um, he's also a state trooper. So, I'm.

especially uncomfortable. I just stopped. in the office. Um, but nobody was. available. >> And what makes that so chilling is that. less than 3 months later, Sechek and her. new love interest, her boyfriend, 29-year-old Tyler Webb, were shockingly. gunned down outside of her home. And. what's even more harrowing, neighbors. apparently did hear the shots and the. screams the night she was killed. Multiple 911 calls came in from Upper. Kingtown Road in Franklin Township.

>> My boyfriend and I just heard something. very strange. We heard gunshots. and also screaming. >> Yeah. No, it was very loud. The. screaming that made me a little nervous. Now, police did respond, but the thing. about that is records show they. apparently drove past Seman's house. without stopping, never locating the. source of the noise. And by the next. morning, it was Lauren's father who. discovered the bodies of his daughter. and Tyler. This is according to Lauren's.

sister. And they were both found outside. with Tyler on the back porch. Now, her. family is planning on suing. At a press. conference on August 21st, attorney. David Maisie announced legal action. against the New Jersey State Police as. well as the Franklin and Washington. Township Police Departments, accusing. them of ignoring red flags and failing. to act when Seman begged for help. He. told the media that a notice was filed. with the intention to file a formal. lawsuit, pointing to state directives. that require when an officer is accused.

in a domestic violence case that. internal affairs has to be notified. immediately and that the officer's. weapons have to be seized. But according. to attorney Maisie, he says none of that. happened. And we're going to dive deeper. into the details of the lawsuit and the. tragic final moments of Lauren's life. when neighbors call police and what she. specifically said in her May 20th uh. voicemail. But first, to really. understand how we got here, we have to. rewind about a year before these. killings back to the fall of 2024. Why?

Because in September, this is per. Lauren's family. That is when she ended. her relationship with Lieutenant Ricardo. Santos, a veteran trooper who had once. served, by the way, on New Jersey. Governor Phil Murphy's security detail. And reportedly, Santos didn't take this. well at all. family, friends say that he. began stalking and harassing Lauren in. the months after the breakup. Her older. sister, Deanna, told Pix 11 News that. when Lauren blocked his number, these. calls would keep coming in from.

restricted numbers. She also, per her. family, believed that he was following. her, prompting her to place cameras in. her car. By October, we have these text. messages we got to talk about where she. was already threatening to get a. restraining order if Santos didn't stop. These messages that were obtained by the. New York Post reportedly show these. communications between the two and we. couldn't independently verify, but based. on the reporting, this is what it says. They include exchanges like Santos. saying, "So, please stop making this.

about me being again a piece of trash in. some level or how you're going to now. threaten me with authorities. I do not. even know how to take that from you.". Lauren responds, "I feel threatened. I. am a single female who recently had. water in her gas tank, a recording. device in my room, and now this. Santos. says, "If you ever really want to talk. about it, we can just own it and stop. making me out to be a piece of garbage.". Lauren apparently responds, "I'm done. communicating with you. If you continue. to either reach out to me or invade my. privacy in any way, I will be getting a.

restraining order." Santos apparently. responds, "Take care, Lauren. Hope you. nothing but the best. A good person. You. are not." Now, by early 2025, her concern had deepened, to say the. least. She even confided in a female. colleague uh of Santos, telling her. about Santos's erratic behavior, though. it's kind of unclear what came of that. And then came May. On May 19th, Lauren's. car was reportedly vandalized while she. was at work, keyed across the side. So,

she apparently goes to the Washington. Township Police in Morris County to file. a report. And according to the report. that was reviewed by the New York Post, officers there called Santos directly, warning him to stay away from her. He. apparently denied involvement, but. agreed not to contact her. And then the. very next day, May 20th, according to. Lauren's own words in that haunting. voicemail, she drove to Franklin. Township Police in Hunter County, where. she lived, hoping to take stronger.

action. She asked about filing a. restraining order, but was told no. officer was available. So instead, she. was handed a phone number, which again. led to this now infamous voicemail that. she left that afternoon. >> Hi there, my name is Lauren Seamantek. and I live at Upper Kingtown Road in. Pittstown, New Jersey. Um, I was looking. to file a police report or potentially. even a restraining order against my. ex-boyfriend who has been harassing me. Um, he placed recording devices in my.

home, has continued to text me and call. me, and then I just came out last night. from work and my car had been keyed and. I have no idea who did it. Um, but I. don't have anybody else in my life with. any animosity. Um, he's also a state. trooper, so I'm especially. uncomfortable. I just stopped in the. office. Um, but nobody was available, so. the girl at the front desk gave me this. number. Um, if you could give me a call. back when you have a moment, that would. be great. my phone number. Thank you.

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me break this down, I want to bring on a. special guest. I want to bring on. Captain Tom Rizzo of the Howell Township. Police Department. Thank you so much for. coming on. Um Tom, having heard Lauren's. voicemail from a policing perspective, how should that call have been handled? >> Well, let's first even go before that. You know, there's a lot of these places. that, believe it or not, and and I I'll. never wrap my head around this, that. don't offer, and it's because of shared.

services, it's because of. regionalization, that they don't offer, you know, which I think should be, you. know, a prerequisite of a one-on-one, some type of level of service. So, you. know, you have somebody who's not a. police officer in most of these. situations who say, "Okay, how can we. help you? Oh, this is what I'm looking. to file a report. I'm looking to speak. with an officer. Um, a lot of them are, you know, somewhat relayed to a call. center and then wait for a call back. I. just I I think so much can fall through.

the cracks with that. So, first I I. can't believe that was the case that. here's somebody wanting to, you know, report or seek guidance or seek. assistance about a potential domestic. violence incident and they're told, you. know, hey, leave a message. Um, I I just. that alone is what's bothered me. you. know, even before these other caveats. But to answer your question, somebody. calling saying, "Hey, I'm being this, I'm being that, it's domestic. situation." That's got to be an.

immediate response. That can't be a, "Hey, well, you know, we'll we'll call. you a few days later." That should have. never been the case. >> Explain to me what a rationale could be. if it's true that no one ever called. back. Wh how is that possible? >> The it don't have a rationale. And what. I'm saying is is believe it or not, the. and this is what bothers me. There. shouldn't be a scenario where there. aren't resources. I'm not. Now, listen, some places are different than others. and they're they have skeleton crews.

that are trying to cover a large. geographical area and and we can go. into, you know, those types of whatifs, but to go without a call back within a. reasonable amount of time. And I'm. saying within that shift of somebody, I. can't give you a rationale. Should this. have triggered uh an immediate internal. affairs investigation? I mean, when. you're talking about a law enforcement. officer, that can be complicated, right? It's not just a report about being.

threatened by John Smith, but a member. of law enforcement. How complicated is. that? I when does it automatically. trigger internal affairs? How does it. work? >> And I've made this point before. It's. actually and and I understand how people. feel about this, but if you took the. same scenario of a a civilian who is. being accused of, let's just say for. hypothetical harassment and you take. that same scenario, but the accused is a. law enforcement officer. Yeah, there's.

more that gets done because it's a law. enforcement officer. What do I mean? departmentally there has to be an. immediate notification in who's ever. taking the report to a supervisor. officer of hey we're taking a report. right now and it involves a police. officer. So that's internally then. there's an immediate notification to the. employing agency of the accused. Yes. Now due process is important not just. for you know police but for people. So.

if there's uh you know the scenario. about the keying of the car, she's. reporting it and to her she's saying. look I know it's this guy because in her. heart that's who she believes it to be. and may very well probably was who knows. right but that's where regardless if. it's a police officer or not there has. to be an investigation that ensues as to. you know develop is it or is it not uh. but regardless the the accusation of a. domestic violence incident and there's a.

long list of what those are considered. triggers immediate notifications inside. the reporting agency and to the agency. that employs the uh the suspect officer. Absolutely. >> What's crazy is she tried to do the. right thing, right? She tried to use the. system uh to help her, which is just so. distressing and so upsetting about this. Um, by the way, side note, because we're. going to get into this a little bit. more, do officers typically, when you. think about what happened here, do. officers typically get periodic.

psychological examin examinations? I. mean, being on the job, this is kind of. a situation where it doesn't seem it was. related, per se, to what his work duties. were, but you got to unpack what. happened here. And and I did make me. wonder, do officers typically get. periodic uh psychological evaluations? you know, uh, that's my wheelhouse. That's my passion about mental health. resilience, and I am a very outspoken. critic of, you know, how the system. works. We get, you're required to do.

that upon initial onboarding and hiring. Um, some places do it when it comes to. time for promotion. Others will do it. when they triggered uh when they're. triggered by critical incidents. Others. could be triggered by the early warning. system when things uncover themselves. and again a substance abuse problem or. you know some type of there there's you. know um extended absenteeism or you know. some type of maybe they're having an.

incident at home. There's trigger events. that can, but there's no boilerplate. as to, you know, as far as requirement. except if there's a hiring some places a. promotion or if there was a critical. incident and or a disarming of somebody. So, they're not supposed to be rearmed. and that could be for a laundry list of. reasons until they're seen by somebody. for what we call fitness for duty. evaluations.

So, let me unpack a little bit what. happened on that day. So, according to. police on the afternoon of August 1st, Lauren left work at around 5:25 p.m. surveillance footage from her in-car. camera showed a white Mercedes belonging. to Santos following her. And this is. before hiding out in the woods just near. her house. >> Just before 700 p.m., Tyler Webb arrives. at the house, her house. Minutes later, that is when the neighbors heard it. the. gunfire, the screams, and then the. silence. Multiple 911 calls poured in.

that night. Neighbors reporting exactly. what they had heard. Gunshots, gunshots, and screaming echoing through this quiet. street. And for the first time, we can. hear those calls. >> I don't know if I'm watching too many. movies or what, but you know, my. boyfriend and I just heard something. very strange. We heard gunshots. and also screaming. And the screaming. sounded, you know, pretty close, you. know. And then, you know, when it.

stopped the last shot, it was quiet. And. then we didn't I thought it was kids. maybe laughing or something. I I. couldn't tell. We had music going. >> Okay. >> And yeah, anyway, >> we have um we have patrol responding out. to the area to check it out. Okay. >> And again, I hope I'm not bothering. anybody, but it just it just it was too. weird. Franklin Township Police. >> Hi. I'm I'm sorry. We don't typically do. this, but we we just heard some. something that sounded really strange.

There were about sevenish gunshots. We. thought we heard some screaming and then. the noises. Hello. >> Hello. Yeah. Upper Kingtown Road area. >> Um we're on Whitebridge Road. >> Okay. Yeah, we have a report of that. Yeah. >> Okay. >> About uh like fiveish minutes ago and we. just it just sounded really weird. So, we felt like you had to say something. >> Yeah, I have an officer on his way in. the area. >> Okay. >> 911. Where's the emergency? >> It's not actually on this property, but.

I just heard a bunch of gunshots. It. sounded very loud. >> Okay. >> Susan upper Kingtown Road. It's not on. this property. I just heard it from this. property. Um, and I heard some screaming. >> like I'm up on the hill. So, it sounded. like down the hill. >> and maybe. >> How many of them did you hear? H five round about 5 to six just before. you called. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, it was very loud. I. mean, but the sound really carries you.

>> Yeah. >> I'll send you out to the area. If. anything, if it continues to happen, just give us a call back. But I got them. going your way. >> Okay. I haven't heard anything since. Screaming that made me a little nervous. >> But it was right before you called, correct? >> It was. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Not a problem. I'll. send them someone out. >> Okay. >> Thanks. Bye. >> Bye. Now, police again, they responded. to that area. As I mentioned before, they apparently never stopped at. Lauren's house. This patrol car drove. by, kept going, and by the next morning, that is when Lauren's father made the.

discovery of the bodies. And not long. after, Santos himself was found inside. of his Mercedes SUV, dead from a. self-inflicted gunshot wound. Tom, back. to you. You have these multiple 911. calls. very very upsetting to hear and. this idea that you have an officer or a. patrol car driving past and never. stopping what happened. >> So you know again this is what.

frustrates me because this people like. you said they they tried to use the. system. One of the systems would be. calling 911 to report something and what. do people expect when they do that? for. the report to be, you know, taken and. considered and investigated. Now, if you. notice where they say, you know, look, we don't know, could have been kids, could have been fireworks. Does that. happen? Sure. When you add on screaming, when you add on multiple calls, at the.

very least, I don't have a problem with. doing a drive by the area, that would be. protocol, right? Because you want to use. all of your senses as a responding. officer to see, maybe let me listen for. myself now. Is there anything that. happened after that? Do you now have. another 911 call of somebody injured? You know, so you have to take all that. into account. Once you're done doing. that and none of that happened, at the. very least, it should have been all. right, who's the caller, right? Let let.

me now go talk to the caller because. we've all as kids, we all played the. telephone game. So, who knows what the. original caller to the call taker, what. and then what was relayed to the. officer. There's always going to be. information that was missed along the. way that the officer himself or herself. would want to hear directly from the. caller or in this case multiple callers. and that would have at least pointed the. officer, the responding officer toward. direction of her home. Now, would he. would he been able to save either of.

them? You know, uh we'll never know. But. at the very least, at the very least, that would have prevented this girl's. poor father from then having to come a. day later and discover what he did. >> And these 911 calls are so important. because if there was actually a trial, talk about reporting in real time, right? Gives everybody a time of this. incident happening, um, time of death, uh, things of that nature. I'm just. thinking from an evidentary point of. view. But do you have questions here? If. this is true and you have a patrol car. that drove by and never stopped. Do you. have questions about this department's.

training, staffing, judgment, what would. you like to know? >> I don't know where to begin and where to. end. Um, you know, because I'm trying to. look at this not just as a police. officer, as a person, and I don't sit. top, you know, a gl a hill that that. lives in, you know, a house without. mistakes. So, I'll never sit there and. point the finger and say, "I'm saying. what I'm saying or asking what I'm. asking because I'm perfect." But no, I.

cannot fathom. I can't understand like I. told you before in 2025, the year 2025, how this is the best we can do. I just. can't accept that. I I I can't because. this is why now imagine what it takes is. the courage for this young lady to even. have to walk into a police department to. say, "Hey, I'm reporting this and he's a. police officer." It's going to be a. formidable and and and overwhelming act. in and of itself. So, if at the very. least we want to sit there and make.

people have this connection with us, have them have faith in us that we're. going to do the right thing and we're. going to take it, you know, um again, I. I still can't believe that, you know, that it wasn't taken as seriously as it. should have for a lot of reasons. And. and for me, this pains me to see these. events happen because I do believe that. some things in this unfortunate world. and circumstances could have been. avoided. >> So, as you can imagine, in the days that.

followed, the fallout spread quite. quickly. The Hunton County Prosecutor's. Office, they seized control of the. Franklin Township's Police Department. They suspended the chief and a sergeant. citing quote serious concerns about how. the department had handled Lauren's. pleas for help. And before you even get. into the, you know, the threat of this. lawsuit, I I mean that is unusual, Tom, right? Am I wrong? Have you seen uh this. happen before? >> Well, I have. This quickly is an. anomaly. Um though normally when you see.

takeovers or supersessions of. departments by a higher authority. So in. this case the municipal agency being. superseded by the prosecutor's office. That's the normal hierarchy. There's. been ones that even that step has been. jumped and they've been taken over by. the attorney general's office. So um. have I seen it happen? Yes. This quickly. based upon a singular incident is an. anomaly. So, you know damn well there's. some significant serious concerns. Again.

though, where I say I can't believe in. 2025, I'm also not ignorant. some of. these rural isolated places who do. maintain a single department. That. that's why, you know, you'll see a lot. of county agencies who police. municipalities as well because the call. volume, you know, or the the the. municipal base, let's say, the. demographics, they don't support having. an individual agency. It wouldn't make. sense. It wouldn't be feasible, right? because how do you staff that where you.

don't have, you know, the volume to. basically, you know, um, rationalize. having it. So that's why you'll have. these regional places, you know, there's. pros and cons to it, but if at the very. least, if you can't sit there and police. something like this, then I don't know. what you were doing to begin with. So I. think the prosecutor's office no doubt. probably looked at this and see how. egregious it is but then in addition are. probably scratching their heads saying. oh my god you know we hope we don't.

uncover more you would have known. obviously something that would be of. this uh such a salacious story but I. think they're looking at it and say my. goodness I wonder what other services. were discarded. >> and now comes the threat of a lawsuit. from the families who say that Lauren. and Tyler you know might have to uh they. might still be alive if police had. followed their own rules attorney. Attorney David Maisie laid out the. allegations clearly. >> No one called her back. Franklin Township Police Department did. absolutely nothing after having this.

complaint. Now, the state of New Jersey attorney. general law enforcement directors. require require that a police department. once there is an allegation of abuse. against a police offer officer to take. action. These are the actual um a. portion of the um requirements. It says. whenever an officer is involved in a. domestic violence incident either as an. alleged perpetrator or as a victim,

internal affairs must be promptly. notified where the officer. or was the alleged perpetrator. Investigating officers must must seize. their surface weap service weapon or any. other weapon possessed as mandated by AG. meaning the attorney general directives. 2000 2003 and 2004. So, as soon as this. complaint was made, the Franklin. Township Police Department had an. absolute obligation to contact the state. police. And at that point, the state.

police would be obligated to take. control and to make sure that all. revolvers, all service weapons, any. other firearms that were licensed to. Trooper Santos would be removed and. they'd be put on administrative leave. and that they would do an investigation. Nothing was done here. Ladies and gentlemen, there's something. called the blue wall of silence. Blue wall of silence is where police. officers protect their own. Even when.

there's allegations against one of them, they look the other way. And that's what. happened here. We will be filing a lawsuit against the. Franklin Township Police Department, the. New New Jersey State Police, and others. on behalf of Lauren and Tyler. We will hold at the end of the day, we. will hold Franklin Township Police. Department. liable for its failure to act. We will.

get to the bottom of why no one at the. State Police acted. to take Santos's guns. We will go get to the bottom of why. police officers that evening failed to. even come into Lauren's home to. investigate the screams and the. gunshots. And we will uncover whether. the police in New Jersey have been held. to a different standard when there are. domestic violence complaints lodged. against them and whether there is a. cover up in this and other cases.

We will do this to and more to achieve. justice for Lawrence Manchek, for Tyler. Webb, and for their families. So, Tom, the family's lawsuit is going. to claim, you know, state directives. require weapons be seized immediately. when a trooper is accused in a domestic. violence case. Um, you're going to be. hearing this idea of uh whether this is. a matter of negligence by individual. officers, whether there is a broader.

reluctance to act against fellow law. enforcement um talking about potential. red flags. What do you make of this. lawsuit? What do you think is going to. come out of this lawsuit? And do you. agree with a lawsuit of the or potential. lawsuit of this nature? >> Um, all right. So, let's unpack that. Number one, uh, one thing I would. counter is no, there's not an automatic. disarming, whether it's a police officer. or a civilian. There has to be some type. of indication. So, for instance,

domestic violence, you know, covers a. wide range of behaviors and offenses. Not all of them have to do with that. Not all of them would rise to the level. of if a person is in possession of a. weapon lawfully, of course, that it. means the seizure of it. So, no, that's. not an automatic and it has nothing to. do with whether it's a police officer or. a person. So, let's let's look at that. number one. Now, for the actions that. are being alleged of this police. officer, whether police officer or. person, would there have been a seizure.

of weapons based upon it seems as if. escalating acts, stalking, invasion of. privacy, harassment, criminal mission? Like, we can keep going with that. Terroristic threats maybe. Um, so sure. Now um there's CR where they talk about. the triggers they're they're referring. to the early warning system what we have. here in New Jersey and it's covered in. two facets you have within internal. affairs there's guidelines on how to. deal with police officers specific. guidelines. Now in addition to that. there's early warning mechanisms.

internally that if a police officer. shows certain symptoms certain signs is. involved in certain things that triggers. a monitoring and the monitoring could. rise to the level of without domestic. violence we're going to disarm him or. her. Again I give you this hypothetical. Let's say there was a substance problem. Let's say there was uh some type of. mental health issue non-domemestic. related that could trigger what we call.

a conditional disarming and the. conditions would be treatment fit for. duty whatever the case. When we start to. see progress, they can then. conditionally rearm and that means in. some situations, hey, you're allowed to. carry your duty weapon while you're. working. You're not allowed to be in. possession of personally owned firearms. So there's a lot of layers to that. So I. think the lawsuit, what they're going to. do is look into, you know, hey, was. there these things that should have.

triggered these mechanisms that were. never employed? I think that's an. automatic. I think the lawsuit is. definitely going to look into and. corroborate, you know, what exactly did. she convey as these reports, you know, we so did she just look for guidance or. did she make the alleg if she made the. allegations of everything I read? Yeah, that would have triggered all of these. things to happen. So if they didn't, there's going to be a lot of answering. as to how was it neg. I don't, you know,

I've seen the um the insinuation and the. imp and the implants of this whole, you. know, the police taking care of the. police and the blue wall thing. And. again, I'm prepared to have stones. thrown at me for this. The only reason. why I don't in my heart believe that. that's appropriate here is because you. look at what we just talked about. The. 911 calls, it's no indication of hey, and it's a police officer. There's no. mention of that. It's just, hey, we hear. gunshots and we hear screaming and they.

they didn't even follow up on that. So, I think that there was negligence here. You know, I think the other stuff that. the family has every right to feel I. think would, you know, require a bit. more peeling back some of the layers to. see if that was the case here. >> No, that's a good point. That's a good. point about those 911 phone calls. Look, hopefully we get a little bit more. information, a little bit more answers. as a result of this and we'll see if the. lawsuit uh does progress. But I will say. this much, bringing it back to the. victims here, because despite these. horrific, horrific circumstances.

surrounding their deaths, you have. friends and family who are doing their. best to grieve and remember Lauren and. Tyler for the lives that they lived. You. know, Lauren Seek's uh obituary captures. her spirit, reading in part, she was. selfless and compassionate. Her her. inner peace came from spending time with. her friends and family. Lauren had a. non-judgmental soul and an acceptance of. one and all. Tyler Webb's obituary. reflects the same kind of warmth. Part. of that reads, "Tyler found true. happiness in just being with people. He.

was always helping anyone in need, and. through his kindness, he has touched. countless lives and brought many groups. of strangers together to become. friends." Just a really, really sad. case. Uh, Captain Tom Rizzo, thank you. so much for taking the time. Appreciate. it. It's a pleasure and an honor. Thank. you so much. >> And that's all we have for you right now. here on Sidebar. Everybody, thank you so. much for joining us. And as always, please subscribe on YouTube, Apple. Podcast, Spotify, wherever you should. get your podcasts. I'm Jesse Weber. I'll. speak to you next time.

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