LEGO Scandal Explodes as YouTuber ‘Reckless Ben’ is Arrested Twice

Am I being arrested? Stop. Really? This is my first time ever being. arrested. >> It is the Lego controversy that is. blowing up online. Allegations of theft, allegations of trespassing, allegations. of harassment. Tell you what, we now. have police [music] body cam footage. that is telling a lot of different sides. of this story [music] and we're going to. do our best to try to make sense of it. right now. Welcome to Sidebar presented.

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chefiq.com. This story has a lot of people talking. online. It has a lot of emotions to it. It has a lot of people trying to find. out the answers of what happened and. people have been asking for coverage on. this case. So, we decided why don't we. do it. So, you got this YouTuber. Benjamin Schneider. Apparently goes by. the name Reckless Ben on YouTuber and. has a channel of nearly a million. subscribers. He does investigative. documentary like content where he goes.

undercover, exposes schemes, things like. that. Now, in his latest investigation, he really gets into this story uh about. a guy in Oregon whose family had a. $200,000 Lego collection. And the. collection ends up at this bricks and. mini fig store under a specific. agreement where the store would sell. these Legos, keep a cut, give the. original owner the rest. According to. Ben, one day this collection just gone, and there's no money, there's no Legos.

The family seems to claim that they got. robbed. So Ben is investigating and he. helps the owner of this collection sue. the corporate owners of Bricks and. Minigs and they apparently win. But. according to Ben, the corporate owners. to avoid paying the judgment, they close. the Oregon store. Now Ben tells police. that he filed a new lawsuit. This time. against the owners personally. Those. owners Joshua Johnson and Brandon Best. live in Utah. So Ben decided to fly out.

there and that is when everything goes. sideways and is caught on police body. cam. >> Am I being arrested? >> Yeah, I'm getting right now. >> Really? My first time ever being arrested. >> So that was apparently March 10th. Ben. gets arrested. You have this newly. released body cam footage that we're. going to show you where you can see. exactly what police claim happened and.

we're going to take a look at this. because there's been a claim that the. police were protecting the people that. Ben has accused of wrongdoing. The other. way of looking at it is whether Ben. himself crossed the legal line. And by. the way, talking about the line, so the. Bricks and Minifigs, the corporate. franchiser, the franchisee, the. executives apparently filed a lawsuit. against Schneider and also the man who. claims that this store stole his Lego. collection. They claim that the. defendants created online content to. quote defraud, manipulate, threaten,

trespass, extort, injure, and damage. them. Now, here's the thing. Ben hasn't. really stayed quiet about it because. after the body cam was released, Ben. posted his own response video and he. seems to suggest that what the police. released may not actually tell the full. story. >> Most of this footage is redacted. So. again, there's a big mystery of what. happened. Can we all come together and. convince the American Fork Police. Department to unredact this so we can. find out the truth? So to figure out. who's right or if anyone is, we got to.

go back to the very important piece in. this timeline that got us to that. arrest. We go to March 8th, 2026, two. days before what we just saw there. Joshua Johnson calls American Fork PD. and he says that a suspicious person. just showed up at his house. Person's. apparently wearing a baseball cap with a. UPS logo taped onto it and he left a. package. inside that package reportedly. rubber ducks. Johnson tells the. dispatcher that he thinks it's Ben.

Schneider and he says that there's a. civil case in Oregon. He believes Ben is. sending people to his home to harass. him. And according to the police report, while an officer is still on the phone. with Johnson, Johnson says that two. females just got out of a car and are. walking toward his property and a male. driver apparently staying in the. vehicle. So officers respond. They. apparently find the driver and his name. is reportedly Benjamin Adams. So, not. the YouTuber, we're talking about a. different Benjamin, but Adams apparently.

or reportedly tells police that he's. there to pick up a friend for a date. And then he seems to change a story. >> How you doing today, sir? >> Good. How you doing? Good. >> I'm Ben, by the way. What's that? >> I'm Ben. >> Ben? Not not the. >> You're not Ben? No, I'm I'm just another. Ben that actually lives in Utah. Yeah. So, I'm not the van, >> but. >> are you okay if I photograph these? >> Yeah, go for it. Um, would you guys I. guess like to hear my like what I'm just. doing here? >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. >> Um, and also sorry for like I guess I.

abandoned places so with cops. I do have. like some trespassing charges in the. past. So, >> sounds like it. You guys are going on. people's property and messing with them. So, it doesn't doesn't surprise me. >> My my I guess whole position in this. whole thing is really just filming. Um, so the YouTube came in the other last. night. from. >> Mhm. >> Um from I think LA something like that. Um he just posted on his Instagram, hey, if anyone's in Utah, I'm filming a. video. He didn't go anywhere. >> You go back to me or to the video. >> Do you get paid or something for this or.

what? >> Yeah, I I get paid. I I film for. different creatives around Utah. Um this. just happened to come up as an. opportunity for me to make some extra. money. >> So, you're exchanging a criminal record. for money? >> I What does that mean? >> Well, it mean like you're getting. charges. >> you're getting charged for like trespass. trespassing and stuff for money. It's. not really I never enter onto the. >> I'm not You said you have multiple. trespassing charges, right? >> Well, just with abandoned plate like I. go to abandon plates. >> You're filming for money for that. That's a bad idea is what I'm saying. >> Oh, yes. I I stopped doing that. It's. just that used to be my.

>> So again, that was Benjamin Adams, the. driver, and police say he was. trespassed. He was told not to return. But at almost the same time, another. officer spots this dark car. And. according to the officer, it failed to. come to a complete stop at a stop sign. and the officer pulls it over. >> What's up, my man? >> How's it going? >> Good. How are you? >> Good. >> My name's Officer Richardson with. American Police. The reason I stopped. you is the stop sign. You didn't come to. completely stop at it? >> I didn't. >> No. >> Oh, okay.

>> Unfortunately. Um, do you have a. driver's license on you? >> Yeah, I do. >> Appreciate you. >> Those boxing gloves? >> Yeah. So, we got like a a purge mask. We. got a bunch of camera equipment. We. filmed YouTube videos, so. >> Oh, dope. Sweet. >> Yeah. Is this going on YouTube then? >> Shout out YouTube, dude. [laughter]. >> Speaking of the cult we uh. >> You heard of Scientology? >> We joined Scientology for like I joined. it for like four weeks. >> Yeah. >> I don't know how long freaky. Why' you. do that? Dude, >> we joined one called the 12 tribes where. they're going to do like a suicide soon. So, we like tried to stop the group.

suicide. >> How what how are you getting into this. crap? >> Yeah. I don't know. >> I just Google near me and they pop up. >> and we just go join the Colts and get. secret footage of it and it's pretty. cool. That's wild. >> Um, I think you ever heard of pasta. varian? >> Oh yeah. >> You have? >> Oh my gosh. >> Spaghetti on a driver's license. >> Have you ever pulled someone over and. there's a spaghetti cap on their. >> No, but I'm a homie. >> We know a guy. >> Yeah. >> That's so funny. >> Yeah, he literally has on his driver's.

license. He's. >> Is your YouTube big? >> Not really. >> Like I guess what's what's big? How many. subscribers we talking? >> A couple hundred thousand. >> Couple hundred thousand. My boys got a. >> couple hundred thousand. Oh, that's a. [laughter] lot. >> Do you have a couple hundred,000? >> I only got 9,000. I started like soon. Like he's been doing it for like eight. years now. So. >> Oh, wow. >> What's your YouTube? >> Where's your car? >> Reckless Ben. >> Reckless Ben. >> Okay. >> I I started off doing slacklining slack.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> So you got good balance. >> And yeah, I would like set it up in like. places and stuff and I but I do like. double back flips on it and stuff. I do. like crazy flips and stuff. >> Yeah. I just do a bunch of like extreme. sports and then that kind of turned into. uh this there's like the world's. scariest haunted house and it turns out. it's like a cult I guess. >> Oh yeah, I've heard of that dude. I've. gone down the YouTube rabbit hole on. that one. >> Yeah, I was the first person to ever. complete it and then we uh took it turns. out the guy has like a torture fetish. So we ended up stealing his company from. him and uh I was like.

>> bought the LLC and everything. Yeah. >> And so then we like shut him down and. that way he can't like torture people. anymore. He was like false advertising. It's like it's a scary haunt, but the. haunted house doesn't exist. He just. brings them in his backyard and tortures. them and like waterboards them and. stuff. So, >> and you you were the first one to like. get out. >> like a YouTube series on it. >> I was the first person to make it all. the way through without quitting. And. then I was like, "Wait, this thing. sucks. This is so He just like. waterboards you all day. Like, this is. stupid." And so I was like, "I'm going. to take over his business." And so I. like found some like legal loophole to.

take it over. >> So that conversation goes on for a. while. Ben seemingly explaining his. YouTube work and the officer's listing, but then another officer arrives and. he's the one who apparently responded to. the original call at Johnson's house, right, about that strange person showing. up and he's already spoken to Benjamin. Adams. He's seen the text messages. apparently and now he wants to talk to. Ben. >> So, who's Ben? >> Ben, how's Utah? >> It's good. >> You like it? So, here's the thing,

right? is that he called in cuz people. were filming his property. He got a. package delivered today, right? And I. already spoke to somebody else. He was. filming him. I have the footage. I have. the text messages, right? Let's let. civil problems remain civil, right? And. let it just stay in court. Okay. So, um, at this point, do you guys have your IDs. on you? >> I got I got drivers in my. >> He's got my driver's license, right?

>> Yeah. He He'll get it back to you once. we're done here. You don't have your ID on you? >> No. Up to his house. He lives like right. around the corner though. >> Okay. Okay. What's your name and date of. birth? >> Um, I have a picture ID. >> That'd be great. >> Oh, sorry. I thought there was somebody. else in the passenger seat. >> Oh, no, there's not. Yeah. >> Gotcha. >> California man. So he was saying and the.

two females that are involved. >> Um. so do you have their information? So. because the thing is is that everybody. today is being trespassed from that. property. >> Okay. Yeah. We just barely met those. people today. So. >> again that was March 8th. Ben and. another person police say were. trespassed. They were released. Next. day, Johnson calls police again because. this time a man is at his front door, ringing the bell, knocking, and the man. reportedly says he's there to talk to.

someone. You're going to hear him refer. to as Brother Johnson. But when officers. arrive, they realize this is supposedly. some random person that Ben allegedly. found online. >> Uh I'm just here trying to talk to. brother Johnson. Okay. >> I'm in the second world. >> What's the What's the relation? Um, there's just been some like audio. going around around like there's been an. audio going around with the young men. group. Um, if you I can play for. >> Can you say that again slowly? There's a.

what? >> There's an audio going around through. our young men's group. >> Yeah. >> Um, Brother Johnson taking advantage of. some people. Uh, >> like how so? So, this guy donates his life savings in in. Legos to uh Bricks and Miniigs. >> It's a It's like a resale store. >> Yeah. >> I was just coming to come discuss that. with them. And then on the Ring. doorbell, he said he'd be out in a. minute. So, I've just been waiting for.

him. I uh I'm up in Mil Creek in Salt. Lake. >> Okay. And you drove down here? What car. is yours? >> My car is It's not here. I drive a. 4iner. Toyota 4. So, how did you get. here? >> I drove down here and then I met up with. Ben. um like fiveish minutes away. I think. he's at an Airbnb and then we just drove. from here. >> Where is he at then? >> Honestly, I don't know where. >> he just left you. >> He.

Yeah, I mean he just he just asked me to. come confront him and get his side of. the story on everything, you know. And. what was your plan exactly? >> I was just going to ask him like, you. know, does he is he willing to give up. everything like he said cuz he swore on. everything he swore on God. >> Um and if not, I was going to confront. his bishop. I don't know about it. >> Okay. Um Okay. And then So, have you.

been drinking at all today? >> Cuz I have I smell a little bit off your. breath. So, >> no, I have not drinked this at all. >> I don't I don't drink, sir. >> So, what am I smelling then? >> Okay. >> All right. You're going to hang out with. this officer then. Okay. I'm going to. see what his name is. You said his name. is Ben. >> Who's this guy? >> Brother Johnson. >> Okay. I'm going to find out what's going. on with him. Just hang out with him. Okay. >> What's your friend's last name?

>> Ben. >> Ben Schneider. >> Ben Schneider. Okay. So, he sent you. today, correct? asked you to be a third. party leaison with him. Okay. So, he was. trespassing this residence yesterday. He's using you third party to console. That's ending you up in the same trouble. that he's in now. I was unaware. I. didn't know he was trespassing. >> Probably not best to be a tool for. someone else. >> Yeah, I get it. I really didn't know. what I was.

Go ahead. Continue. >> I really didn't know like what I was. getting into. He's a YouTuber. Follow. him for a while. Slid up on Instagram. said, "Hey, I'm coming to Salt Lake." I. just slid up. I said, "I'm a local.". And he was like, "Cool. Are you free the. week of March 9th?" They text me. earlier. I just came down here. Well, this isn't Salt Lake County. This.

is Utah County. We do things differently. down here. So, if I wanted to, I could push things, but I understand you're being used by. someone you don't know. He wants you trespass from the property, which means you cannot return. If you. do, you will be arrested for criminal. trespassing, plugged into the Utah. County Jail. Does that make sense? >> I don't think you want a record.

That man reportedly identified as. Christian Morgan taken away, released. But as he walks away, officers claim. they watch him head straight for this. black car, parked down the street, and. inside two people. Reportedly, one of. the people they just got for trespassing. earlier, and yep, according to the. reports, Ben Schneider. So later, an. officer tracks down Schneider and stops. him in his vehicle.

What's your name? Are you Ben? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Go ahead and lower this window for. me, would you? >> What's your last name? Ben. >> Schneider. >> Schneider. Okay. What are we doing, boys? >> We're just going for a drive. I actually. live in the area. >> Okay. I'll ask again cuz I wasn't born. yesterday. Why are we doing it? asking people. Okay. Go ahead and give me your ID. You.

have your ID on you or no? >> Okay. All right. So, >> do you want to follow us to my house? My. house is literally down the street. >> All right. >> So, well, here's the thing. Okay. So, you were all involved. >> You were all involved yesterday in an. issue at at uh. Well, >> you were trespassed from the residence.

yesterday, correct? >> Yeah, but we weren't on the res. >> I know you sent someone else. >> We didn't send him anyone else. >> Who sent him then? >> I don't know. We did tell his we found. out what church he was in. We did say uh. we told the bishop that. church like big crime. church. And I think they said they might. have sent someone. Heat. Heat.

These are the other two that were. trespassed yesterday, though. >> Why don't you call him? Tell him to come. over to the car cuz he's not. >> We don't have that number. >> How did he call you guys then? >> Really, guys?

Are we We're going to play stupid. I know he called you guys. I watched him. try to get in your car. I don't have his number at all. >> Okay. >> But is there is there. like a church member to go ask? >> Well, he's saying you sent him. So, it's.

not a church member going up and asking. me if they want to like they seem like. they want to. >> go ahead. >> They seem like they want to. go for 16 now. >> Okay. Listen. Okay. If we want to play. stupid, we can play stupid. I'm not. Okay, so I'm gonna be straight up with. you guys. He was at somebody's house. >> Yeah. >> harassing that individual. He got tres. Listen, he got trespassed today. Okay. >> I see I watch him tried to get in your.

guys' car and then he and then he bails. Listen to what I'm saying, though. Then. he said, "Ben is the one that sent me to. Yeah. Well, I like I told you earlier, you're. walking a very dangerous line to be. honest. >> Um, which can get you hemmed up a lot of. the time. >> Yeah. And I don't want that. >> And I don't blame you. Right. Neither. would I. If you didn't do anything. wrong, I don't want you getting heed up. for stuff that's wrong. Right. >> Um,

>> what I would suggest, I'm not going to. push tonight's issue. >> I appreciate you. >> Okay. Um, >> I'm not sure if you're lying to me or. not, to be honest. >> I'm willing to take any drug test you. want. I promise. >> What I'm going to do is I'm going to put. in there. >> Yeah. >> that since you guys returned, >> I have to document it. Okay. >> We didn't property. I know. >> it's a little too convenient that he. says you guys sent. >> because I live in the neighborhood. I. live in the same neighborhood as this. guy. I'm driving through it all the. time. So, if I drive past his house to.

get to my house, is that incriminating? like just if you go on the property. >> Okay. >> Like I said, that's why you're not being. charged and arrested and being booked in. jail. >> Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate you, >> but I'm just saying you're walking thin. line by by being even. >> Don't give this guy ammunition if he's. in the wrong. >> I understand that, >> right? >> Yeah. >> And your and your buddy already told me. that you're the one that showed up. yesterday in the UPS gear trying to have. him sign something. >> That right there is a federal crime. >> I understand that. Yeah. >> So, if he decides to take a different.

route with that. >> Uhhuh. You can be liable. >> Understood. Yeah. >> Cuz it's on Ring doorbell camera. You. don't work for UPS. >> Yeah. >> But you're wearing a UPS hat and you. make them sign. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? >> I do understand that. Yeah. >> That's a federal crime. So, we're not. going to take action on it. But if he. decides to or the mail office somehow. gets rid of it and they report it, it's. something coming down the pipe that's. going to really jam you up. >> Yeah. I apologize. >> But don't let him manipulate you to. that. Don't let anybody manipulate you. If you're not if you're not going to do.

it on your own, don't can do it. >> Yeah. >> Does that make sense? >> I appreciate you. >> Same with them like having 30 different. people in your car. If you don't know. them that well, like. >> I see I feel I film content. So, it's. like it's just people online that like. are also filming videos together. So, I. >> You don't know what they're into, right? So, >> yeah, for sure. I don't know anything. about these people when they come in my. car. So, I got to be more careful for. I know you said you've known Ben, but if. you were to pop you, say with Christian. in the car and he has some stuff on him,

>> then. >> that also goes on you, right? >> I understand that you're trying to film. content and trying to make a living, do. that type of stuff. But. >> maybe vet these guys a little bit better. cuz then stuff like this happens, right? >> I do understand that. Yeah, >> cuz if we found stuff in the car and. nobody took accountability, all of you. get to charge. >> Yeah, I get that. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. >> Um, so I'm going to talk to him really. quick and then we'll let you guys get. out of here. Okay. So just stand by.

>> All right, Ben. >> Cool. Ben. >> Yes. >> All right. So, you did give him your ID. and all that already. >> Uh, I gave him a picture of my ID cuz my. is at the house. >> So, I already told him. Okay. Um, luckily nothing was found in the. vehicle. However, because of the. situation today and because of the. things that you've said and what could. happen and transpire, you guys. technically could be arrested under. federal charges for that DPS situation. Okay? We don't take action on that, but. if he decides to inform the mail office.

and go that route, it's going to be a. it's a jam up that you're not going to. want. So, even if you're trying to do a. stint or trying to joke around or bait, whatever you called it, I don't. remember, but dressing up as UPS. >> going to someone's house. >> He did. I saw the ring door that he's. wearing a UPS hat. >> And you asked him to sign for a package, dog. >> What is that? >> Yeah, but it was just to show him like. the irony of why. >> If that's not dressing up, what is that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. >> And you could end up in jail in Utah.

when you're from Cali. >> Okay. >> Not worth it, right? Yeah. Yeah. We play. differently here. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, like I told him, we'll let you guys. go now, but you're walking a thin line. Just be mindful of that. >> Next day, March 10th, Johnson reportedly. calls police again. This time, police. say he tells them a woman is standing. near his front door taking photos. Officers respond. They find a vehicle. parked nearby. inside Ben Schneider.

>> You guys can I see those papers? >> Yeah. >> So, this is what you're trying to serve. them with. >> Yes. That's uh required by the court. that we have. I wish we could send him. an email. I wish we could just send him. a phone call or the court could send it. to him, but this is what we're required. to do from the United States court. So, we're just following the instructions of. the government. >> Have you guys been here before? Uh I. have once I came one time to have a good.

faith conversation with him before. stewing which the government also. requires us to have before. >> So are you Benjamin Schneider? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So I I'm just following the basically. the instructions of the government and. he keeps calling the cops on me to try. to avoid getting in trouble for his. crimes. >> Um so that's why he keeps calling this. like the third time he's called the cops. now on us because he thinks if I just. call the cops on me he can get away with. it. But we're showing him like we're not. going to let him go away with this. crime. So, >> okay. You okay if I give these fakers to.

him? >> Uh, yeah, for sure. >> Okay, >> hang tight. >> Hi. Um, I'm trying to speak with someone. to verify if a uh case is just verify if. a case is real. >> Okay. Did you get a case number or I can. look up a name? >> I do. When you're ready. >> I'm ready. That's 26. S is in Sierra. C is in Charlie.

06134. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Looks like a a real small claims. case in our court. >> Okay. Do you know. um if it's already been to court or are. you allowed to tell me kind of where. they're at with the case? >> Um there is no hearing date set and. there hasn't been a hearing in the case.

yet. Um all I see is the claim that was. filed. I don't have any proof of service. or anything. Um hearing wouldn't be set. until a response is filed by defendant. >> Okay. Okay. So, the defendant needs to. be served with papers before the the. case will um I guess start. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you for your help. Um. that's all for today. Thank you. >> No problem. >> Okay. Bye. >> Then the officer returns.

>> He does not want the paper. So, >> he's not want the papers. >> Here's that back for you. >> Um he wanted you trespassed. Okay. So, don't. >> she she never even went on the property. though. >> Yeah. He So, who went on the property? >> None of us did. >> You guys No one went on the property. today? >> No. >> Okay. Why is he saying that you guys. went on the property? >> Cuz he wants us arrested. So, he has. nothing to court. >> Okay. Um, but he he does want you. trespassed regardless. He doesn't need a. reason as to why. >> So, how do we serve him then?

>> You got to go through the court, man. You got to. >> We did go through the court. They said. we have to serve him in person. >> Okay. >> Um, so we had $200,000 worth of Legos in. the store. >> Okay. and it's the world's largest Star. Wars Lego collection set. >> Okay. >> And um basically he the deal was he like. he we can like put our Legos in his. store. Once one gets sold, he keeps a. small percentage of it and then we get. the rest. >> And then well that was with the previous. owner. It's a complicated thing. It was.

with the previous owner. He's corporate. He comes down takes over the store cuz. I'm taking everything in this. The. owner's like screaming him like you. can't like kick me out of the store. like all of these sets have not been. paid for yet. He says, "I don't care. I'm taking it anyways." Boom. He takes. all the sets, sells them, keeps all the. profit, which was supposed to go to us. And. >> uh so we sued him actually and we won. Uh and they had to shut the whole he. shut the whole store down to avoid. paying us. >> So now the only option left, we have to. sue him personally because it's a. personal thing he did. So now we're.

suing him personally and he's doing. everything he can to avoid. accountability. So, according to the. police report, there was also a sign and. it was placed on a public strip across. from Johnson's house and it reportedly. showed Johnson holding money with the. words, "I stole a dying man's life. savings." Now, Ben reportedly admitted. that he put it there. That is when the. officer told him that he was kind of. straddling the line here. >> Obviously, this isn't working.

>> Yeah. No, it will work if we keep doing. it. Yeah. No, it. >> it always has worked for us before. So. >> So right now you're straddling the line. of what we call stalking. Okay. >> But we're not stalking. We're here for. uh we're doing with the court. >> Regardless regardless fifth year to. serve papers, >> if you continue to have people going up. to his door and onto his residence, >> if him and his family feel unsafe, >> you are straddling that line of. stalking. >> Yeah. But the what the law says is if. the average person would feel unsafe by.

our behaviors. So I think he's feeling. unreasonably unsafe. A reasonable person. would not feel unsafe in the situation. >> What about his family members? Kids, >> wife, kids. >> They should not feel unsafe. We're here. for a legal business reason. Uh if if he. feels unsafe because we're here serving. papers, that's on him. That's what the. law says is that's on him, not us. >> Okay. Well, him and his family are on. not feeling safe. You sitting outside. their fault. Okay. If somebody writes up. these papers, we won't sit here. That's. their fault that they feel unsafe. >> Regardless of if you're to serve papers.

or not, having multiple people that you. just met come up here and try to serve. papers for the same thing. I feel unsafe. trying to conduct business with him and. he calls the police on me to hide. I. feel unsafe because of that. Because we. had a three-hour search in our car. He. said we had heroin in our car yesterday. We had a 3hour search in our car. That. makes me feel unsafe. I think that's. reasonable for me to feel unsafe. It's. not reasonable for him to feel unsafe. Well, you're the one putting yourself in. this position by sitting outside his. house. >> What's the alternative? >> Putting up putting up signs like that. >> What's the alternative?

>> Can't be doing that. >> Why not? >> You cannot be putting up signs in our. photos of his face in front of his house. >> with information like that. >> Isn't that freedom of speech? Isn't that. >> called residential picketing? >> Uh-huh. It's a coloss misdemeanor. with his shirt on my pocket. Okay. >> I stand over here. Do you have any. weapons or anything like that on you? >> Uh, no. Okay, the trans find your bag. Am. >> I being arrested? >> We're under arrest right now for. stalking. >> Really?

>> My first time ever being arrested. >> We're just following the walls with. >> Is there a phone or anything you'd like. to take with you? >> Uh, is that okay? Take a. >> We'll We'll collect it for you. It's not. going to be on you. Um, no. The guy. Okay. All right, let me walk over here. Oh, you guys arresting me, not Josh.

>> 30. Yeah. Widen your stance for me. >> All right. Take a seat back here.

>> Uh, they're arresting me because this. guy stole a bunch of Legos. >> That's March 10th. Ben is apparently. booked into jail, later released. Next. day, March 11th, police say Johnson. calls yet again. Now, there's a group of. people reportedly hanging the same. message on a neighbor's fence. Johnson's.

face. I stole a dying man's life. savings. And one of them, they say, is. on FaceTime with Ben Schneider. >> Hi. >> What you guys up to? Actually 42. >> Yeah. >> Um what we're doing is we're going to. get a bunch of publicity to get uh. basically all this money back to the. family. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So we got her permission. She said we. can film here. So we're just getting. ready to film. We're going to get. >> the owner of the fence. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

>> Yeah. We got her permission. >> We got a huge GoFundMe and stuff. >> Yeah. >> We have permission from this house. That. orange house. >> Yeah. They're also They said we were. good to film there too. So, we're. allowed all over the nonp property. areas. We're just trying to get this. GoFundMe going. Um, it's a legit. GoFundMe. >> What's it What's it for? >> Um, we're getting back uh this money for. this family. Um, let me pull up the. GoFundM. It's a real It's a real. GoFundMe. Um, >> it's real. Uh, >> yeah. Do you want to hold.

it? >> Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Why'd you hang out so bad? >> Oh. Oh, I don't He hadn't been on the. phone in forever. >> That's not true. So, >> but yeah. So, here's the GoFundMe. We. got 10 bucks. 28,000. >> Can I express some concern? >> Sure. >> So, I know who Ben is. I know the. situation. I know the situation with. this guy, the YouTube, the Legos. I know. all that. Okay. >> Um, he was arrested for stalking. Okay.

>> Yeah. >> You know that. >> Um, he's paying you guys to be here. I. know that. No, he's not paying us. Um, >> he can't. >> It maybe it'd be better if he Where is. he at? I know he just left, too. >> Um, >> I have no idea. >> Okay. >> The problem that we're running into is. you guys are slowly becoming an. accessory for stalking. >> and you guys can be arrested for that. >> Okay. >> And so, we're we're kind of at the phase. point where the the people that are. involved in this are getting upset. >> We're here to keep the peace. >> We're here to make sure that nobody gets.

in trouble, nobody gets hurt, nobody. gets arrested. But I don't think that. this kind of stuff is going to help the. situation. >> Well, but if we get this off and get the. drone shot of it, it's going to look. good and then we'll take it all down and. we're getting the funds for the. >> Yeah, that's how we're going to we're. going to cuz we can't, you know, we're. not going to do the the lawsuit anymore. We're just going to do this fun me. We've already got it started. So the the. other the other issue that we run into. is it it can run into some defamation. stuff or it can have some other. ramifications that come.

>> because the gentleman that officer. Richardson is is explaining has been. arrested. He's not allowed to have. contact with that party or indirect. contact either. >> Yeah. >> So you guys are indirectly in contact. with that party. So we don't. >> we don't want that the threshold. >> Okay. >> Because that can mean you guys can get. arrested as well. I'm all for GoFundMes. I'm all for support. I like what you. guys are doing, none of my business. But. you have to understand, we're not stupid. either. I know you're FaceTiming Ben. I. know he's having you do this and cool.

If that's what he's doing, then cool, but I'm just I guess this is. >> like he explained, you don't want to get. caught up in this. Ben doesn't want to. go to jail again. We don't want to. arrest him again. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Like that's not what we want to do. Obviously, we have to do our job. >> Yeah, absolutely. I know you guys are. doing your jobs. >> What we want is not take people to jail. Yeah, >> we want Ben and his posi, whatever you. guys call yourselves, reckless Ben, whatever. We want you guys to be happy. We don't care, but we also have to look. out for Ben. >> But Ben apparently isn't there. And. police didn't actually know where he. went until, according to the incident.

report, they receive a tip. And a. neighbor says that some YouTubers are. apparently renting an Airbnb nearby. So, officers go to check it out and they see. the black Chevy Malibu from the sign. hanging. They apparently get. surveillance footage reportedly. allegedly showing Ben walking into the. basement apartment. So, they get a. search warrant. >> The doors are open. Windows are open. >> Windows are open. >> You ready on you?

>> Everybody step out. >> Police department search warrant. >> Stand up and come outside. >> right now. Let's go. Step outside. >> Step outside. Everybody, >> come on. Everybody step. quick. >> Are we all going to present it? >> Just curious. Are we all.

>> talk to you about that? >> And then they bring in Ben for more. questioning. So, I thought it was a. funny plot point for the video to be. like, "Okay, well, if we serve him, we. go to jail, you know, so obviously we. can't go through the civil way because. they keep saying do it civily." And. obviously, civil going civily, suing him. is not working for us. >> So, let's do a GoFundMe. I have a big. following. I've. >> I'm very confident if I made a GoFundMe, we would get him the $200,000 just from. a GoFundMe. I'm very confident we would.

do that, but I have to like do something. funny. So, we were like, well, we uh we. found a house that uh we saw some people. at the house yesterday that were really. like like, "Oh my gosh, like they're. arresting you just for like serving. court papers." Like all the neighbors. were like, it seemed like they were on. our side, you know? So, we talked to the. neighbors about it and they were like, "Yeah, let's do a GoFundMe here. We. like, I give you permission to put the. sign up at my house, you know, it's. freedom of speech. were allowed to do. that if it's their private property, you. know. And so we're like, we'll just do.

like a little video where we're like, hey, like donate to this. And we have. that sign hung up, you know, and then. we're like, we're just going to make. like a short little video just for the. GoFundMe. And then my friend gets. arrested and he's not even like I I just. met him for this video. He showed up to. this. So I had a fake tier on my Patreon. uh where it was like if you pay me. 3,000. It's like I It's a joke to a lot. of things I do are satire if I guess you. haven't found out by now, but I involve.

a lot of satire in like my work. And so. a lot of big YouTubers that I think are. terrible people, they always have like. tears where it's like, if you pay me. $1,000, you can collab with me, which I. think is so it's like, why would you. have someone pay to work for you, you. know? I think that's so stupid. So I did. the same thing jokingly on mine, like if. you pay me $3,000, you can be in one of. my videos. And I think the guy who got. arrested today, he was like my biggest. fan ever, you know, and so he was like, "Uh, I'll pay that, you know." He's. like, "If if I pay this, are you really. going to do a video with me?" I was. like, "No, it's a joke. Like, don't pay. the money. I'll just do a video with.

you. Like, who car? Like, you don't have. to pay anything." So, I flew him out and. so that's how I met him actually was. through that. And then what they said is. he was being a kind of a dick to the. police, I guess, today, and that's why. he got arrested. So, I I don't know if. that's true. Um, I I don't really know. him that well. pro. Maybe he was, I. guess. >> Maybe he's not being as cooperative as. like the rest of us are. I mean, all. these people are just random people uh. that were in that Airbnb that you guys. like swattered us for. Like, those are. all just random people. Um I I.

[clears throat] just met all of them as. of like a couple days ago. So, I'm. really the M. If anyone should get in. trouble, it should be me. Um but not. them. >> Okay. Um, >> so today's event was. was that kind of your ideas to do this. video with the GoFundMe and all that or. how did that all. >> So I wanted to video the GoFundMe. because the whole thing is is like, okay, if we do a video of this thing, I.

know like I just know how the internet. works. It's going to raise the money for. this family, right? And before we could. even shoot the video, um the police just. came and shut it down and arrested like. sh I don't I don't know if he deserved. to be. Maybe he was talking back. I. don't know. Um I I. >> I'm not sure either. I wasn't there. >> I wasn't there either. Yeah, cuz I was. afraid that if I go back then they're. going to arrest. So I just stayed back. out of it. I wasn't in it at all. >> But the plan with with everyone was to. create this video.

>> It was just to create a video. Yes. Goofund. >> and then get the. >> cuz if I just say like, "Hey, this man. stole his Legos. Donate. No one's going. to care." You know, like you got to do. something like kind of funny for it, you. know? >> But the the the purpose wasn't to. intimidate Josh. It was like those. neighbors seemed like they were like on. our, you know, it was like, "Oh, like if. we do it the neighbor's house, like. >> it'll go viral." And. >> Okay. >> Um Yeah. But the purpose wasn't to. intimidate Josh. It wasn't to like make.

him scared. I guess it was cuz I know. that that's going to go viral and that's. going to basically blow up and get like. that sign is a funny sign, you know, and. like we have the freedom of speech to. say that, you know. Um, and it's true. It's not defam. I mean, even if it is. defamation, he has to get us in civil. court, but it's not defamation. It is. true. Um, like that is what he did. And. I have so much evidence to back it up in. our documentary. >> Um, and we have the freedom of speech to. for that person to put that on their. property. And um and I I thought we were.

doing a good thing by getting this. family their money back, you know, and. like we're like cuz the police said, "Hey, do not serve them court papers,". which means basically police told me, "Do not take this man to court or else. he'll get arrested." And so I was like. just thinking and like let's do a. GoFundMe, you know, and that was their. solution. >> Gotcha. And they book him again. >> So our plan kind of moving forward is. we're going to book you back into the. jail. Okay. For an additional stocking. charge. So, what that kind of looks.

like, you're booked in on a stocking for. all the stuff that happened, whatever happened yesterday, right? I. don't I don't really know [snorts]. the full details of that, but you kind. of explained it to me, but I don't know. the details behind that, but we're. looking at some different things that. happened today, right? You had your. little crew go back to the house today. Post that picture thing in front of his. house. And then also the. >> Well, you're in the vicinity, right?

>> Yeah. But they didn't say I couldn't go. back though. But they couldn't say I. couldn't do that. Like I wasn't warned. that. >> Right. But we're still we're still doing. these patterns of showing up at people's. house like near their house, posting. these posters in front of their houses. It still kind of meets that element. And. a lot of this stuff you may have to just. get an attorney and just and fight it in. in the criminal side of court, right? But I'm just kind of giving you the. benefit of the doubt and explaining to. you of kind of where we're at rather. than just like, "Hey, you're under. arrest for stalking.". >> And then you have questions like,

"What's going on?" Right? So, I'm kind. of giving you the benefit of the doubt. of explaining things to you, right? And. then the other thing was the creation of. the GoFundMe, right? We're blasting this. person all over saying, "Hey, he's. >> So, creating the GoFundMe was illegal.". Well, in the in the concept of the. stalking, right, you're blasting this. guy that you were arrested for stalking. yesterday, saying that he's all this stuff. It's. again another element to the stalking. and then just the entire stuff that's.

leading up to this like, >> but is that stalking or is it I guess. your guys have to fight in court, I. guess. >> Yeah. And then if I fight in court, am I. able to get like. I don't know like I guess you wouldn't. have that answer. Never mind. >> Probably not. No. >> Oh yeah. Should I yell back? >> Yeah. Go ahead and stand up. I got an. officer right here that's going to He. has cuffs for you. >> So Ben was reportedly arrested twice. You got this one incident allegedly.

stalking and targeting residential. picketing. You got another one, another. stalking charge different days. And in a. statement released by police, the. American Fork Police Department. addressed all of the growing online. controversy surrounding this case. because there seemed to be a lot of. focus put on the police department and a. lot of sympathy for Ben and the person. who claims his Lego collection was. stolen. I understand that many people. following this situation online have. strong feelings regarding the underlying.

business dispute out of Oregon and. allegations that individuals may have. lost significant amounts of money. I. recognize that people are frustrated, angry, and may feel that justice has not. been served in relation to those. allegations. Those concerns are understandable. Our. responsibility in Utah was not to. determine who was morally right or wrong. in a business disagreement originating. in another state. Our responsibility was.

to respond to conduct reported here in. our community, evaluate the facts. available to our officers at the time, and enforce Utah law as officers. established probable cause that a crime. had occurred. The fact that someone may. believe they have been wronged. financially does not exempt any. individual from the laws governing. harassment, trespassing, stalking, or. other conduct within our jurisdiction. We remain committed to enforcing the law.

fairly, objectively, and transparently, regardless of who is involved or what. narrative may exist. But again, Ben says. that the police version isn't the full. story. And he responded to all of this. He points to the body cam footage from. that traffic stop, claiming that there's. actually footage that has been redacted. >> Now, let's go to the heroin claim. We. got pulled over by the police and they. claimed that we had heroin on us. >> This officers are looking to search. because.

>> most of this footage is redacted. So, again, there's a big mystery of what. happened. Can we come together and. convince the American Fork Police. Department to unredact this so we can. find out the truth? However, what the. police is claiming now is that they did. not get a call saying that we had heroin. on us. Instead, they could just tell. from the second we pulled over that our. eyes were glossy. >> Good with these guys being able to. drive. >> Yeah, I think so. I didn't see anything. as I didn't see anything clear as day. with Tyler that I noticed.

>> What's the What's the goal of. >> right right now? >> Yeah, I was going to I was going to. scare him a little bit and let him go is. all I really was going to do. So, so. American Fork Police Department, if I'm. your teacher, here's your homework. First off, learn the facts of what. actually happened. Second off, stop. lying about the facts. No one's. believing it. The third thing is. unredact the audio that makes the police. look bad. >> Now, here's where everything stands. So, police apparently have not yet responded.

to Ben's claims. As of May 29th, 2026, the American Fork Police Department. claims there are no active warrants for. Ben Schneider out in Utah. The chief. said they are not currently seeking him, but we'll keep a careful eye on this and. see how it progresses since it's getting. a lot of attention.

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