Johnny Depp Testifies on Physical Incidents with Photos & Audio Recordings (Sidebar Podcast EP. 13)

what was the photograph of Mr Depp. it was a it was a. it was a photograph of the bed our bed. um and on. my side is for the bed. um. was human fecal matter.

um. so I understood why it wasn't a good. time to go down there. that's actor Johnny Depp explaining the. surprise that was left in his bed. possibly by his ex-wife Amber Heard you. know sometimes I just can't believe the. stuff that I have been seeing and. hearing coming out of the case that. everyone is talking about. hey everybody Welcome to sidebar. presented by law and crime where we. recap the biggest moments in days.

biggest trials I'm Jesse Weber. so we're talking the ongoing trial of. Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard out in. Fairfax County Virginia Deb is suing his. ex-wife for 50 million dollars claiming. defamation namely that she falsely. accused him of domestic violence in a. 2018 Washington Post op-ed piece and. that that article ruined his life and. his career now she's actually counter. suing him for 100 million dollars saying. that he defamed her when he publicly. called her a liar and that she created a. hoax about him being an abuser there's.

no court this week it's a pre-scheduled. week where court is dark they're going. to be back Monday May 16th with Amber. Heard back on the stand so we thought it. would be a good opportunity to do. something a little bit different we. thought let's go over some of the key. moments from Johnny Depp's testimony. where he is a plaintiff and counter. defendant in this case and we're going. to start with the 50 million dollar. question why is he suing Amber Heard. what's your understanding is the status. of pirates six.

at this point yes. um I believe it's in dangle mode. Mr Depp have you ever physically. assaulted misheard never. have you ever sexually assaulted. misheard. never certainly not. what have you lost as a result of. misheard making these allegations. against you.

nothing less than everything. nothing less than everything. when the allegations were made. when the allegations were. rapidly circling the globe. um. telling people that I was uh.

a drunken. cocaine fueled. Menace. um. who beat women. suddenly in my 50s. um. it's over you know you're you're done so.

um what did it do to me. what effect did it have on me. what did you this way no matter. the outcome of this trial. the second the allegations were made. against me. the accusations. the second that more and more.

of these things as I said metastasized. and turned into. [Music]. fodder. for the media. um. once that happens uh. or once that happened. I lost. then it's fascinating watching Amber. Heard just staring him down as he's. saying this and you know look this is. important because for defamation cases.

particularly when you're proving damages. it is critical to show how you were. harmed what did you lose and what's. interesting here is when he talks about. no matter the outcome of the trial. because Depp is fighting a battle in two. courts he's fighting in the court of law. and also the court of public opinion. he's trying to clear his name obviously. with a successful judgment but maybe. more importantly than that even if he. were to lose the defamation case he. might win over public opinion we're. already seeing a very strong social.

media response towards that many argue. watching him testify he comes off very. well trying to rehabilitate His Image. his reputation so he's hoping he can get. a second chance after this trial but. there's something else to keep in mind. here there's an argument that Amber. heard's accusations definitely harmed. Johnny Depp and if she lied about them. that is not good for her but for this. case it is so specific Johnny Depp has. to show it was the 2018 Washington Post. op-ed not anything before that not the.

2016 allegations not her seeking a. temporary restraining order not other. news articles that it was the Washington. Post article the very thing he's suing. for he has to show that that is what. caused him harm and that may be a little. tough for him to ultimately prove. deptho has been trying to reframe The. Narrative about himself and he's been. doing that by saying hey I'm not the. abuser I'm the victim I didn't attack. Amber Heard she physically attacked me.

and was verbally abusive towards me I. would just walk away when there was a. conflict and in fact Depp would explain. these incidents by going through photos. seemingly documenting these alleged. injuries Mr Depp what's reflected in. these photographs. [Music]. um. there were some scratches. a. another. altercation and there were some.

miserted. come at me with her nails her hand. scratch scratching. at me what is this a picture of. that is um. that's me in the emergency room. I see. I see a detail that I forgot I'd.

forgotten. which is the. Missouri that pulled taking my cigarette. from. the ashtray and uh. storm till Island map. face here you know I will tell you I was. actually in the courtroom from when that. was shown and it was something to see. definitely something to see in person.

very powerful and then of course there. was this bombshell and this is when Depp. was on the stand and audio recording. between him and Amber Heard was played. where basically she admits that she hit. him. Travis I said no I said to you hey tell. Travis we'll just uh well you tell me to. do it you told me to he said go do the. you punched me. you figured it off and you said.

you lie and then I didn't punch you by. the way you I'm sorry that I didn't uh. uh hit you across the face in a proper. slap but I was hitting you it was not. punching you babe you're not punched. don't tell me what it feels like to be. punched you know even a lot of fights. have been around a long time I know yeah. you didn't get punched you got hit I'm. sorry I hit you like this but I did not. punch you I did not deck you I was.

hitting you I don't know what the. promotion of my actual hand was but. you're fine I did not hurt you I did not. punch you I was hitting you Mr dab could. you please explain to the jury what they. just heard on those audio recordings. um. what what was just played on the audio. recordings.

was um. very much the tone. and the. aggression and the. attitude. and the. need. for a fight. from his hurt and I should also tell you. that Amber Heard in that recording also. seemed to acknowledge that when this was.

happening Depp would walk away that's. the very thing he said he would do so. this was arguably some of the strongest. testimony for Johnny Depp because it. really makes him look like the one who. was abused it makes it look like he was. telling the truth about everything that. happened I mean this is so much a he. said she said case because Amber Heard. is saying the complete opposite she said. she only hit death or said nasty things. to him to defend herself and let's not. forget this is important the jury could. believe that Amber Heard physically. attacked Johnny Depp and he could still.

lose this case if the jury believes that. he hit her or psychologically abused her. in any way than what Amber Heard felt. about all of this is subjective this. isn't about whether or not Johnny Depp. committed a crime it's whether Amber. Heard lied about being a victim of. domestic abuse which is a very broad. term if she didn't lie about what she. felt happened then he most likely will. not win stay with us here at sidebar. after these words from our friends at. the court junkie podcast.

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stand without talking about him being. questioned by herd's attorney Jay. Benjamin rottenborn on cross-examination. this was highly entertaining this was. entertaining back and forth because as. much as rottenborn tried to show that. Depp was an erratic and dangerous. substance abuser who was a threat to. Amber Heard the more Johnny Depp played. with him let's take a listen. the only reason we go for the throat is. love. did I read that right you did.

and then she writes. my throat is yours. you're going to be the death of me but I. don't care. and then you write. I have other uses for your throat which. do not include injury. I have other uses for your throat which. do not include injury. sorry could you read that again. into your word sir right I read that.

right correct. you did okay you can take that down and. you know look that could make Johnny. Depp likable the jury might like that we. talked about the court of public opinion. people might like that they might think. oh look rottenborn looks like the bully. here Johnny Depp is getting one over on. him but I want to go to this this is. when rottenborn plays a video of Johnny. Depp trashing his house smashing things. again showing he was a danger showing. that look who Amber Heard was around of. course she's a victim of domestic abuse.

but then look how Depp responds I did. assault. um a couple of cabinets but I did not. touch Miss heard and as you can see I. think. and you may have been you may have been. may have been drunk in that video. correct. responsibility of that yes sir you you. poured yourself up. a mega pint of red wine correct. a mega pint.

yeah. I poured myself a large glass of wine. right I thought it necessary that moment. actually went a bit viral the megapod. instance but look what he says is I. didn't hit her I was having a bad time I. needed to deal with my own stuff that. was going that I was going through this. is an abuse but that does leave me with. one final point you know we talk so much. about the alleged physical abuse in this. case but what about the verbal eat salad. with your equine.

A.D bovine yurps and thanks for the. support have a great shoot you sicken me. leave me be officer square head. your display of guilt and matronliness. as a lesbian camp counselor was plenty. your future is on display best of luck. just if look. thank you for the correction best if. luck and thanks for the tunes bye JD.

don't call again I will begin to feel. embarrassed for you go away Coach hop. done did I read that right no. other holy coach. done. thank you otherwise did I read that. right. um. sure do you agree that referring to. Amber is a lesbian camp counselor is a. highly offensive. reference to make correct.

um. what's the date here 2013 it wasn't. um as uh considered as egregious it was. a bit more it was a bit more. um. understanding about terms Amber also. called herself a lesbian camp counselor. many times. so. um. I don't think I'm the first to say that. here's the thing Depp is.

taking ownership of these remarks but. he's trying to explain them away but if. Amber Heard really felt them offensive. if the jury sees this as a form of. verbal abuse which can be a form of. domestic abuse then Depp once again. might lose his case because the jury. could say hey she didn't lie she. honestly and truly believed she was. being abused by the actor. fascinating stuff from the Pirates of. the Caribbean star. thanks for joining us here on sidebar.

make sure to subscribe on Apple podcast. Spotify YouTube or wherever you get your. podcasts I'm Jesse Weber speak to you. next time. [Music].