High School Rapist Walks Free in Shocking Plea Deal

Well, if this don't set you on fire, I. guarantee your woods wet cuz uh it it. makes you it makes you upset. Anybody. that listens to this is going to be. absolutely upset. There is outrage in. Oklahoma right now as a teenage rapist. who could have gotten almost 80 years in. prison for violent attacks. Instead, doesn't have to spend any time behind. bars at all. He is being called the new. Brock Turner. As you have parents, community members, at least one. lawmaker, they are crying foul over this.

sweetheart deal. We are going to be. sitting down with a content creator and. reporter who has been covering every. aspect of this case to try to figure out. what happened here. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse. Weber. [Music]. A high school baseball player out in. Stillwater, Oklahoma, just accepted a. deal that means he won't spend any time. in prison after pleading no contest to. some of the most heinous charges there. are. Charges like rape, forced oral. sodomy, assault, and battery by.

strangulation. According to graphic. arrest affidavit that were filed in. Payne County, Oklahoma court, then. 17-year-old Jesse M. Butler targeted at. least two teen girls that he dated. And. many of these accusations, they are. right out of a horror movie. Okay, so. now before we dig into this, before we. dig deeper into these affidavit, I got. to tell you a little bit more about. Butler, who turned 18 in August. So he. attended Stillwater public schools, played for the high school baseball. teams and other regional outfits. This. is according to reporting from the Daily.

Mail. Stillwater is the home of Oklahoma. State University. And Butler, by the. way, comes from an influential sports. family. The Daily Mail reports that his. father, M. Butler was the OSU football. team's director of operations from 2001. to 2004 and then again in 2009 until. 2021. He was then hired as the assistant. athletics director for Stillwater Public. Schools. Butler's mother, Jackie Butler, is a coordinator for Cowboy sports. properties at OSU. This is again. according to the Daily Mail. Family. members of Butler's victims described.

him as seemingly like quote the perfect. boyfriend when he dated their. 16-year-old daughters. But these. affidavit, they reveal that behind. closed doors, Butler was essentially a. violent predator who refused to be told. no. I'm going to take a look at this. paperwork. Okay, now we're not going to. be getting into some of the more graphic. parts of the affidavit, but this will. give you an idea of the grave. seriousness of this case. Now, according. to the first affidavit, a 16-year-old.

identified by her initials LS told a. school resource officer in September of. 2024 that she had dated Jesse Butler for. a few months earlier in the year. And. that during that time, he physically and. sexually assaulted her multiple times, multiple times, including trying to rape. her inside his car outside of an ice. cream shop the previous February. The. affidavit reads, "LS reported she yelled. and told him no repeatedly and tried to. push him off of her, but was unable to.

overpower him." LS reported Butler told. her he was sorry for what he had to do, but he had to do it. LS recalled. hyperventilating because Butler intended. to have sexual intercourse with her and. she did not want to. Now, according to. LS, a woman must have heard her. screaming because she walked up to the. car and interrupted them. LS told police. that Butler told her that if the police. came, they would both be in trouble. He. reportedly took her back to his home. where her car was parked and then tried. to rape her again. The affidavit says.

Ellis told Butler she needed to get. home, butler pulled her on top of him. and told her, "You're not going until. I'm finished." Ellis said she was. eventually able to get out of the car. and get home. Now, the victim told. police that Butler forced her to perform. oral sex on him in the parking lot of a. Planet Fitness despite her saying no. And unbelievably during the assault, the. affidavit says that Butler took a call. from his mom, told LS she had to be. silent or he would hurt her. There's.

another assault that happened at. Butler's home in what's referred to as a. movie room. According to LS, she. believes Butler's mom heard her crying. and saying no as Butler tried to have. sex with her and she apparently came to. the door asking if everything was okay. But it seems that's as far as this mom's. interaction went because the affidavit. just says that Butler drove LS home at. that point. Except he didn't take her. all the way home. No, he apparently. parked nearby, tried to sexually assault. her for nearly 2 hours. The affidavit.

says that when she finally managed to. get to her house, he followed her and. continued trying to assault her inside. of the home. And the abuse just kept. getting worse because according to LS, in late February of 2024, Butler. reportedly strangled her because she. refused to have sex with him. So, the. affidavit says, quote, LS reported she. was hyperventilating and then recalled. her vision being blurry and she was. dizzy. She reported her head immediately. hurt and she was confused about what. occurred. She was scared of Butler. But.

when she regained consciousness, Butler. was laughing at her. Following this. incident, LS reported she had a. handprint and injury on her neck. Now, LS was examined by a sexual assault. specialist confirmed the teen had been a. victim of sexual and physical abuse. This is according to the affidavit. I. got to say, by the way, this is a prime. example of what we try to do here on. Sidebar. We're trying to understand the. legal system. We're trying to understand. the law. And I have to say, I am so. happy that this show is sponsored by. legal experts. Morgan and Morgan, right?

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behavior that allegedly continued. You. have a second affidavit that details. assaults that KS says she suffered. during this relationship. Quote, KS. reported she engaged in sexual. intercourse with Jesse Butler throughout. the term of their relationship and did. so to prevent physical aggression from. him. When Ka told Butler he was hurting. her, he did not care and would not stop. Because of his aggressiveness, she was. scared to tell him to stop. She. expressed she was scared not to do what. he wanted because of how physically.

violent he had been with her. KS. reported Butler had left bruises on her. hips from squeezing her so tightly. KS. reported the intercourse was extremely. aggressive, but she reported she quickly. stopped fighting it because Butler would. overpower her and hurt her to get his. way. KS explained she learned what to do. and not to do to avoid being hurt by. Butler. According to KS, Butler would. pin her down and she was physically. unable to get him off of her. KS stated. this would often lead her to. hyperventilate, which Butler thought was. funny. So, not only is it horrific, but.

you're seeing how these accounts are. very similar to one another. Now, according to this affidavit, Butler also. strangled Chaos and so bad, so long that. she eventually passed out. She reported. she woke up on the floor of the living. room in a house where she was apparently. housesitting. And she claims Butler was. livid that she wouldn't have sex with. him in someone else's home. But after. strangling her, Ka claims Butler raped. her three or four times. Later that same. week, Chaos reported that Butler.

strangled her again. And if it's. possible to even believe this, it was an. even sicker power play. The affidavit. says KS stated Butler told her he wanted. to strangle her so he could film it on. his phone. And if you can believe it, police found that video on Butler's. phone, which showed him choking chaos. until she passed out. What these girls. went through, what they endured is just. unimaginable. But then you get to the consequences and.

that too is seemingly unimaginable. Why? So Jesse Butler was charged in March of. 2025 as an adult with 10 felony counts. We are talking rape. We are talking. attempted rape, sexual battery, assault. He was later hit with an 11th charge. when he apparently violated a protective. order. He was facing almost 80 years in. prison for these crimes. He ended up. entering into a nocontest plea. Okay, this is where everything changes. This.

is where the big shock comes when he. entered that plea in August. His case. had apparently been downgraded from. adult court to youthful offender status. And because of that, he would spend no. time behind bars. So instead of his. 78-year prison sentence, that was. deferred. It's deferred as long as he. complies with his quote rehabilitation. plan. According to NewsNation, until his. 19th birthday, Butler has to do these. daily check-ins, these weekly counseling.

sessions. He has a curfew. He isn't. allowed to be on social media. He has to. complete 150 hours of community service. And if he does that, no prison time. The. district attorney's office released this. statement per the Daily Mail. The. youthful offender sentence imposed. against Jesse Butler requires him to. complete his rehabilitation plan. successfully, including an aggressive. schedule of therapy with a specialist in. sex offender treatment. And should he. fail, he faces reclassification as an. adult and a sentence of 10 years in. prison. So this complete 180 on.

punishment for this apparent sexual. predator, as you can imagine, has caused. quite the outrage in the city of. Stillwater and now across the world as. the story spreads. There are calls for. the judge who approved this plea deal, special judge Susan Worthington, to be. reprimanded, to be removed for okaying. this. And even the state's legislature. could possibly be getting involved here. Oklahoma State Representative Justin JJ. Humphrey appeared on Ashley Banfield. show on NewsNation this week and he is. fired up. >> But I I keep coming back to how it.

happened. Sir, do you think that the. courts are corrupt? Is that how you. think that this deal was maneuvered? >> Oh, absolutely. We're working on grand. juries right there. I think this is just. the tip of the iceberg. I think we're. going to see more cases like this. I. think we're going to see uh I'm working. on a case that may be as shocking as. this. Uh we're trying to get uh the. Payne County Grand Jury because of this. kind of action. And so yes, I mean. absolutely there's a lot of problems. Uh.

we're meeting with uh you know great. resistance from their court and from our. Oklahoma government. I mean we're. meeting with uh great resistance on. trying to get that uh grand jury and. hold these people accountable. So again, until they're held accountable, the the. laws are there, but what do you do when. the when they uh you know, don't follow. their own rules, when they don't follow. justice, they took an oath to justice. Does this sound like justice? And again, here's what I'm saying. Shouldn't we.

investigate? Should we not investigate? Was there political favor done here? Was. this done as a result because of. positions the father has or because. people knew each other? Uh, I would. think that it would warrant. investigation. And again, it's all. allegations. We don't know what happened. until we go in and investigate it. But. golly, I'm I'm mad as all get out. And. we're trying to have other things there. in that same county investigate. I mean, very, very corrupt things going on in.

this county and really across the state. There's all kinds of things. >> So, I want to bring in Justin Shepard, host of Just in the Nick of Crime. Uh, so happy to have you on here to talk. about this. you've been following this. case closely. You helped shine a. national spotlight on this. How did you. first hear about this case? >> So, actually a a friend of mine, another. mutual um social media creator, he goes. by u missing in USA, literally his. content is all for the most part missing. people and stories and they work behind. the scenes and actually research his. stuff. He lives in Stillwater and he.

sent me this story and that night I was. actually getting ready to go live uh on. YouTube to talk about a completely well. three different cases and I was like I'm. after I read that story I was so enraged. that I was like I'm going to scrap what. I'm talking about right now because. these cases have been you know cold for. years and we're going to talk about this. and and I was infuriated. I called a. friend of mine who's an attorney like. hey can you hop on right now because I. want to talk to you about some stuff ask. some questions. So, she did as well. And. then from there, apparently I opened the. floodgates in in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

Um, you know, from there I, you know, I. got it sent over to the people over on. News Nation. It's like, hey, you guys. might want to talk about this. And but. basically, Dan had initially sent me. that story and was like, "Something. needs to be done about this." But when. you see somebody getting charged with. the charges that he had, we can get into. those a little bit more here in a. moment. But originally being sentenced. to 78 years and then walking away with. 150 hours of community service, that is. just a miscarriage of justice. There's. just no other way to look at it.

>> I I haven't seen anything like this, anything near this. And and and from. your research, from speaking with. experts, from speaking with attorneys, what's the what's the what's the. rationale here? What have you learned. here about how this is even possible? Because I will tell you, >> there is a lot of speculation online. right now that the Butler family may. have connections that may have helped. him get this so-called sweetheart deal. We couldn't confirm that. What can you. tell us? >> So, uh, I've spoken with some of the.

family the families as well of of. actually of both victims who came. forward against Jesse. there is a third. victim who she hasn't come forward but. can you blame her when you look at this. as the justice that they get. Um, so. there's a third victim and kind of like. you said, the speculation is that Jesse. M. Butler's father is a man by the name. of M. Butler and he was the head of. football operations at OSU for I forget. how many years, but for a pretty long. time. He's, you know, kind of a staple. in that community. And when we're.

talking about Stillwater, Oklahoma, we're talking about OSU for people who. don't know, Still Water is the town that. Oklahoma State University is in. So. there's a lot of things tied to that. You know, M. Butler. It seems that he he. grew up there. His wife currently works. for OSU. His daughter works for the high. the the public school system there. Um. he was apparently had been hired as like. a coach of some kind for Stillwater High. School as well. So somebody with deep. rooted ties into the community and that. then leads you to the judge in this case.

or one of the judges in this case, Judge. Susan Worthington. Her f between her and. her father. The Worthingtons have had a. hold on that bench for over 50 years. So. while you can't necessarily say. definitively that hey there's this. connection here because he's deeprooted. in football you know she's a judge they. all grew up in the same town that that. there's this kind of connection but it's. not really many difficult mental. gymnastics to make that leap right that. hey this is a town that or you know. requires the college needs the college.

to survive um it's very deep rooted into. the system that they're very much. supportive of OSU for this whole kind of. thing to be very close-knit and that's. kind of what's being speculated to the. point that even uh it's now gotten the. attention of one of Oklahoma's. lawmakers, Representative uh JJ. Humphrey, who's also running for. Lieutenant Governor. Um I'm actually. going to be speaking with him later. tonight. Little bit more details, but. >> yeah. And and and and if you can, I. don't know if you've spoken with him. already, but Representative Humphrey is.

talking, my understanding is about a. potential investigation into this. Is. this true? Is that is there going to be. a formal investigation into what. happened here? It sounds that way. Yeah. So he, you know, he kind of looks at it. from the same way. He was telling me. that he's got a lot of background, you. know, in the court system and. investigation before he got into. politics. And he said, you know, basically kind of the same thing that we. were just talking about that can he say. definitively or can he prove right now. that there's a connection? No. But his. exact words, but it sure as hell smacks. like it, you know, and so he's like it's.

worth an investigation. So he basically. he's thinking about, you know, wanting. to put a grand jury together to do an. indictment possibly. You know, the. conversation we had, which will go a. little bit more in depth, I don't know. if that could bring additional charges. against Jesse because when you look. again at the litany of charges, there. are some that should have been on there. that weren't like in my opinion as not a. lawyer, why he wasn't charged with. attempted murder when one of the girls. was near death for what he did. And and. so those are kind of the conversations,

but he feels that not just Still Water, that that entire county, Payne County, and then other places in Oklahoma, there's a lot of I mean, he said it flat. out, there's corruption, and he believes. that this is no different than that. And. it it merits an investigation. >> What What is the community saying? What. is the community feeling about this? Are. they up up in arms about it? >> Yeah, they are. So, there's a protest. they're planning um sometime next month. I think November I want to say November. 5th. Um, but they're planning a protest, but they don't think that it's it's. fair. And you know what's been very.

interesting about this is that since, like I said at the beginning, I opened. the floodgates on this. Since I started. talking about Jesse, I've gotten no less. than 20 to 25 messages, whether it's, you know, through Insta or direct email, um, or even messenger of people saying, "Hey, here's my experience with, you. know, Judge Worthington. Here's my. experience with this DA. Here's my. experience in, you know, the judicial. system in Still Water, Oklahoma, in Pay. County." And what's been interesting. about all these stories, I've kind of. started to compile them together and. like to one thing so I can kind of.

analyze them. And a lot of these, not. all, but a lot of them have the exact. same players in every one of them. There's another case for example, um, that Judge Worthington and I think. Michael Culling, I think, don't hold me. to the last one, was on it. And. basically, this was a guy, he was a. teacher, got arrested for sexing a. 13-year-old girl, was sentenced to 10. years. Not just that, he was also. stalking her, trying to break into her. house. This is a grown man, okay? An. educator, and he gets sentenced to 10. years, which sounds great, right?

>> He does 8 months and gets out. >> While he's out, he rapes a 16-year-old. girl. >> He the the family gets an an EP an. emergency protective order against her, protective order. He violates it 11. times. Each time, Judge Worthington. gives him a $500,000 fine. The girl. doesn't feel safe. She wants to get out. of that town as quickly as she possibly. can as soon as she graduates. and and. just be out of still water. And this is. another case I'm actually probably going. to be doing something today on it or. tomorrow, but this is another case that. again, it's the exact same players and.

there's a lot of them with it. And and I. was telling Representative Humphrey. about that as well, like you know, this. is not just a one-time singular incident. when it comes to these predators. >> Yeah. First of all, you talk about. violating a protective order. Okay. My. understanding is something happened with. Butler uh violating a protective order. and I think that would you know speak to. a lack of concern, a lack of. consequences you just mentioned and in. this other case what what can you tell. us about that? >> So I believe so obviously because the. victims were minor we'll leave their. names out but for one of the victims um.

he wouldn't stop harassing her, wouldn't. stop calling her, wouldn't stop. threatening her despite the fact that. the court told him not to do it and he I. mean he didn't even get you know he got. that charge but nothing really happened. for it. when you're at that point and. you're facing the charges um that he's. facing, you have to take that very. seriously, especially when there's. strangula, you know, there's. strangulation charges on this. >> And even though there was two charges. happened, there were three. strangulations on two at least two of. the victims. So, one of those victims.

too had to have surgery. I don't know if. you've seen the pictures on that, but. had to have surgery to correct the. damage that he did. and her medical. physician said I think that he said 30. seconds from death but let's just say. you know he basically say that she is. very near death on what he did and this. is also a guy who strangled one girl to. the point of unconscious each and each. strangulation was a point of. unconsciousness and one of the one of. those points once she woke back up he. had set his camera up because he wanted. to film it he did it again to the point.

of unconsciousness of this girl caught. it on camera and actually when they. searched his devices they found that. video so it's not like hearsay. It's. it's it's actually there. So, when you. have that and you have, you know, young. 16-year-old girls, you know, who are who. had to just go through this horrific. ordeal, you you look at pictures of. Jesse Butler, he's an athlete, he's a. big guy, you know, it's. >> it's an issue of he can easily overpower. these people. Um, you know, using. tactics of fear, coercion, things like.

that based on what we've heard. You. know, what what are these girls supposed. to do when you don't have a judicial. system that's protecting them? when he. blatantly disregards what the court has. said. I think that that speaks volumes. and I think it speaks even more when the. courts do nothing about it. >> And I want to highlight something. So, one of these victims, talk about the. victims, one of the victims submitted a. victim impact statement to the court for. the sentencing hearing. And according to. KCO and Oklahoma outlet that reviewed. the court paperwork, she wrote, "I've. had to explain bruises, explain silence, explain why I started isolating from.

people who love me. You didn't just. strangle me with your hands. You. strangled my voice, my joy, my ability. to feel safe in my own body. The Daily. Mail spoke with the mother of one of the. girls that Butler attacked, calling her. only Amber. She told them, "It's. appalling. I received similar. punishments for breaking curfew when I. was a teenager. It's a complete. injustice to these girls and to future. victims because unfortunately, statistically, it won't end. Not only. are you giving a slap in the face to. those survivors, you are potentially. putting other women at risk by not.

holding him accountable. Now, Justin, some people are calling Jesse Butler the. new Brock Turner because back in 2015, Turner was this 19-year-old star swimmer. at Stanford University. Sexually. assaulted a woman while she was. unconscious. He was convicted in 26 2016. of three charges of felony sexual. assault. But at his sentencing, you had. Santa Clara County Superior Court Judge. Aaron Perski sentenced him to just six. months in jail followed by three months. of probation. He was required to.

register as a sex offender for life. He. ended up being released after just three. months for good behavior. The judge in. that case, by the way, ended up being. recalled by local voters in 2018. The. case influenced California's legislature. to require prison terms for rapists. whose victims are unconscious and. changed the definition of what rape. means to include digital penetration. So. there was an outcome there. But I I feel. like that's a fair kind of comparison. No, >> I think it's a great comparison because. you have, you know, rape by. instrumentation, which is pretty much.

the same thing as, you know, digital. penetration. And um I I I agree with you. and and I think that with with Brock. Turner, who by the way, I have been told. I've not researched on my own that he. has changed his name to Allen Turner so. that I guess he can survive a little bit. better. uh you know that was another. travesty just cuz these girls they have. to live with this for the rest of their. life what happened to them and these. people get off scotfree what what kind. of message does that send and and I. think that when you look at somebody. like Jesse Butler I I agree with you and.

you know you've covered enough cases. I've covered enough cases to know that. people like this they reaffend it's not. a matter of if it's a matter of when and. I know that there's a believe that we. both know the some of the same people. and Gabito's family you know they've. really gone into uh domestic violence. awareness and and things like that, changing the laws. Well, Jim Schmidt, her her stepdad, had told me that when. somebody puts their hands around your. neck, there is a 750% increased chance. that they will kill you. >> So, for Jesse Butler, somebody who is. now comfortably strangled um girls at.

least three times to the point of. unconscious, filmed it, what's what's. going to happen next? What's going to. happen when he's now in college and all. of this stuff is expuned from? Which, by. the way, I don't know if you were aware. of that, you probably were. that when he. turns 19, less than a year from now, all. of this stuff is expuned. It's all. completely gone. Nobody knows about it. except for what was it's found on on the. web. But you know what's going to happen. when he's at college and now he's got. alcohol. He's got access to things like.

roofies, you know, inebriated states of. some of these girls who are partying. that should feel safe. What's going to. happen when he's there and he does that. and he takes somebody's life? Who's. going to be held accountable then? A and. look, that's the importance of reporting. on this and keeping it in the public eye. so it's not put, you know, in the. waistbin and no one knows what happened. here. Something real happened here. And. by the way, you and I cover these cases. all the time. You know how difficult it. is for survivors to come forward and and. explain what happened to them. If.

there's not digital evidence to support. it, if they don't have corroborating. witness accounts, if there's not. surveillance footage to it's mostly. based on their accounts. So not only. being coming forward and going through. the process to explain what happened and. going through the legal process and now. this is the result you you know Justin. that's why the work that you do is. incredible. It is really incredible and. and I can't highlight what you do enough. from what you've seen so far. Do you how.

are these victims and their families. doing? I mean how are they responding to. this? What is the reaction to all this? I explained it a little bit, but for the. best that you can tell, I mean, how are. they moving forward? >> You know, it's it's it's interesting. So, when you talk about the victims, I've spoken with Amber. I talked to her, you know, almost daily at this point. And what people have to remember, too, is that when something like this. happens, it's not just the girl that's. the victim. It affects the entire. family, right? So now you have a mom and.

a dad, you know, advocating for their. child, you know, and and people always. say the same thing and and I I say it. even too and and I I'll take a step back. like, you know, I even told Amber, I was. like, I don't know how you and your. husband, you know, y'all are better. people than me because I don't think I. could I could just let somebody walk. like I would be okay catching charges. and she was like, you know, we we had. that conversation, but we need to be on. this side of of of some gates so that we. can continue to help and advocate for. her. Um, but it affects the entire.

family. I think that despite all of. this, what I'm learning is that um I've. not spoken to the girls obviously that's. I'd rather speak to the parents cuz. they're they're young. But from what I. understand from the family, they are not. letting this guy take their voice. They're not letting him have the power. over him. And I think that that's a. pretty incredible thing because that's. what a lot of this is about, right? It's. about the ability to have power and. control and and I feel too that with. this story now getting more of the. public attention because originally it. was being swept under the rug that they.

also feel so much more supported not. only by their community who's now more. aware of this, but you know, somebody. said yesterday made a comment on one of. my videos, "Oh, I saw this on our. morning news report in Oslo, Norway.". >> And so this made Yeah, this this made it. all the way overseas. And I think that. for these girls, they finally feel like, you know, even if the court's not giving. him justice, this he can't escape this. He can't run from this. >> Yeah. And um by the way, just so I know,

have you heard anything from him, his. family, his side? Have they reached out. to you at all or anything like that? >> No, but I mean, but if they did, I would. talk to them. You know, I'd let I'd let. them have that opportunity. But no, they. haven't. My guess is they're probably. laying pretty low right now. Um, what I. have heard is that there is a there's a. group, a Facebook group, and I was sent. a couple screenshots of it. Um, where. the family was reaching out to the. administrator of that Facebook group. basically talking about how they're now. be they're being threatened and how. they're being harassed and things like.

that. Um, and that basically that this. was this was a big thorn in their side. is how I will word that. That's my. words, not theirs. But, you know, I'm. not saying that people should harass or. threaten people at all. I don't I don't. agree with that. But for it to be a. thorn in their side, good. I'm okay with. that. >> Well, I think I think more answers are. warranted and I'm very curious to see. what happens with your conversation with. Representative Humphrey to see what this. investigation uh will look like. Um. Justin, for anybody who's out there. wants to see more of the work that you. do, not just with this case, this story,

but other uh stories that you cover, let. everybody know where they can find you. Um because I think it again, you do. really important work. >> Well, thank you. So, I'm on pretty much. every platform you can think of. Tik. Tok, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Substack. Um, and it's all the same. name, Justinthen Nick of Crime. So, um, just kind of how it sounds. And I also. have a website, just innov.com, which. will lead you to all of my socials as. well. Uh, so that's kind of where you. can find it and what we do. And I do. different things on all the platforms. depending. But, uh, you know, this this.

kind of stuff, this type of awareness is. important. It speaks for victims. everywhere. And if I can too plug this, I'm also working, this case kind of got. me fired up a little bit to the point, you know, we cover a lot of things like. this where you see predators get plea. deals like this. And right now it's kind. of a blanket statement, but I started a. petition um which in two weeks has. broken over 50 I think it's a 54,000. signatures right now to stop these. predators from getting plea deals. And I. realize that that's that that's a very. broad statement which once we have. enough signatures we can whittle it down.

to get a little bit more specific, but. if anybody wants to sign that um that's. linked through any of my my bios as well. and you know once I get to 100,000 we. can start taking it to some of the. bigger representatives. >> That's great. That's great. Um Justin. Shepard, thank you so much for taking. the time. And just on a a different. note, great lava lamp. You know, nobody. does the lava lamp anymore. Um and that. you know that takes courage in and of. itself. I mean that's a great I I it's. look at that back there. Nobody does a. lava lamp. >> This is the biggest one you can buy. >> Is that right? >> It's It is. It's like It's like 27 in or.

something like that. >> Well, now now you're just showing off. Now you're just showing off about your. lava lamp and and everybody sees that. >> I went I went into a store and they were. on clearance and the woman was like, "Well, if you buy two of them, I'll give. you a better deal." Basically, two for. the price of one. So, I have another one. downstairs as well. >> Fantastic. I love it. I love it. Justin. Shepard, >> thank you so much. Really appreciate it. >> Thank you for having me. And that's all. we have for you right now here on. Sidebar. Everybody, thank you so much. for joining us. And as always, please. subscribe on YouTube, Apple Podcast, Spotify, wherever you should get your. podcast. You can follow me on X or.

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