Everything We Know About Accused Killer Nick Reiner

Today I'm here to announce that our. office will be filing charges against. Nick Reiner, who is accused of killing. his parents, actor director Rob Reiner. and photographer, producer Michelle. Singer Reiner. These charges will be two. counts of firstdegree murder with the. special circumstance of multiple. murders. >> Who exactly is [music] Nick Reiner? for. the guy accused of brutally murdering. his famous parents Rob Reiner and. Michelle [music] Singer in their home.

What would lead him to do this? If this. is true, what is his background? [music]. What was the relationship? This is a. full deep dive on the suspect in one of. the most shocking celebrity crimes of. all time. Welcome to Sidebar presented. by Law and Crime. I'm Jesse Weber. Okay, so [music] this is a unique. episode of Sidebar. We definitely wanted. to do a deep dive onto this. Uh this is. a rapidly evolving story and the reason. that we can bring you a story like this.

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deaths of his father, acclaimed director. Rob Reiner, and his mother, photographer. and producer Michelle Singer, out in LA. They were found brutally killed in their. Brentwood, California home on Sunday. Now, it has been reported, although it. hasn't been officially confirmed by. authorities, that they sustained. multiple stab wounds, and now he faces. life in prison or even the possibility. of the death penalty. It is an absolute. shock and it is inconceivable. It is. inconceivable that a son could do this.

to his parents if these allegations are. true. So, we thought, let's do a deep. dive on Nick Griner, right? We have to. understand this. We want to do a deep. dive into him because what is his. background? What happened here? If these. allegations are true, what would drive. him to murder his own parents in cold. blood by allegedly stabbing them? Now, Nick Reiner was born on September 14th, 1993. He's the second of three children. that his father, Rob Reiner, had with.

Michelle. They married in 1989 when he. met her, by the way, on the set of When. Harry Met Sally. He directed that. Nick's older brother is Jake. His. younger sister is Romy, who we're going. to talk about, too. Now, over the years, we saw Rob and Nick together. For. example, Rob was interviewed in 1998 by. a Times columnist when Nick was just. five. They were doing this interview. over lunch. And Nick apparently fell. around the table, as kids do, and Rob. said to the reporter, "He's floppy. He's. always moving around. He was born like.

that." When he came out, the doctor. said, "This is a squirmy one." But Nick. has reportedly commented that he and his. dad they didn't really bond much when he. was younger. According to the blast, friends of the family told the Daily. Mail that Nick struggled as a boy, that. he was intense as a child. There was a. yoga teacher who worked for the family. She apparently said, quote, "Nikki would. barge in like the world was on fire, screaming into our yoga sessions. He was. really screaming. I've never seen a. child like that." She even claimed that.

the family hired a therapist. But it was. his teenage years that were particularly. problematic. This is when Nick was. apparently fighting heroin addiction, going in and out of rehab. He even wound. up homeless. Nick told People magazine. in 2016 that he went to rehab 17 times. that he was homeless in Maine, New. Jersey, Texas. He added, "I spent nights. on the street. I spent weeks on the. street. It was not fun." The New York. Times reporting that he began using.

drugs at 15 years old and entered a drug. treatment facility program at that age. So young. And over the years, Nick would. talk about this as reported by the New. York Times in 2018. Nick revealed in an. interview on the Dopey podcast that. while being awake, you know, wired on. cocaine for a long period of time, he. destroyed his parents' guest house that. he was staying at by quote punching out. different things, a television, a lamp. He also apparently lost it at a.

treatment facility by throwing a rock. through a window. He said on the. podcast, "I was so lost, I didn't know. anything about myself or the world, and. that's all I knew as a coping. mechanism." He actually explained this a. bit more in a 2016 interview with. comedian Paul Mccurio as reported by the. LA Times where Nick said, quote, "I had. no identity and I had no passions and I. think the reason I had no identity was. because I have a famous dad and a famous. grandpa." Referring to Carl Reiner and. the fame sort of informs who you are. So. I wanted to edge out my own identity.

with a more rebellious, angry, drugaddicted sort of persona. And he. added that he had nothing to do, nothing. to look forward to. And it was. reportedly very tough for Rob and. Michelle. A family friend reportedly. claimed that Michelle said, "We've tried. everything. We don't know what else to. do." 2015. It's a very important time to. talk about here. Now, not only does Nick. apparently get clean at that time, but. he co-writes the film Being Charlie, which was released in 2016, and it's.

about a young man who is addicted to. drugs and his difficult combative. relationship with his father. his father. being in the movie a former actor who. gets into politics and is basically. portrayed as being cold and distant and. it's about their relationship. It's. about how this young man tries to. recover. Nick's father, Rob Reiner, directed the film and this proved to be. a period in which Nick and Rob grew. close. Really learned a lot about that. and their dynamic during the press tour. for the movie. For example, Rob told The.

New Yorker, "Working on this with Nick. was like being in therapy with him." He. added on the build series that Nick was. the quote heart and soul of the film and. that he would look to him to provide. quote honesty and truth. Meanwhile, Nick. told the New Yorker that that he learned. more about his father and his love for. him during this filming quote by seeing. him in his element doing what he loves. most. And Nick added in an interview. with People that he had quote very. loving and supportive parents. According.

to the New York Times, Charles Berg, one. of the producers of Being Charlie, said. that the film was quote, "a passion. project for Rob." And he made that movie. for his son. It's all I can tell you. That was his gift back to the world to. acknowledge his son, to say, "I love you. and I want to share your story." And it. was interesting how Rob would seemingly. talk about these perceived regrets that. he had regarding his son. According to. the New York Times in an interview in. 2015, he seemed to suggest that he put. too much reliance on professionals when.

dealing with his son's substance abuse. problems, saying, "We were desperate.". And because the people had diplomas on. their wall, "We listened to them when we. should have been listening to our son.". Michelle actually added about Nick, "We. were so influenced by these people. They. would tell us he's a liar, that he was. trying to manipulate us, and we believe. them." Rob Reiner added in that Build. series interview. The whole process for. me, I can just speak for myself. It did. make me understand him a lot more and I. think it made me a better father. Now, I.

say all that you see a family coming. together. What happened? What happened? If the allegations are true, what. happened with Nick? That's the tricky. part. Because the time leading up to the. moment that Rob and Michelle were. killed, except for a party the night. before, which we're going to talk about, things with Nick maybe seemed okay. You. had cinematographer Barry Marowitz who. told Page 6 that he had recently been. living at the Riner home in Brentwood. According to ABC, a former security. guard confirmed that Nick had been. apparently living on his parents'.

property in a guest house. You go back. to that photographer though, Marowitz. said that Nick looked to be normal, quote, on the upswing, that he was. playing sports and said this, he looked. great. He was sitting and talking with. the family. They ate dinner together, old school and a lot of love. Always a. lot of love. He added, he helped out. He. took out the garbage. He watched TV. He. washed dishes. And that he didn't notice. anything off at all. He cannot explain. the 360. That's his perception. Maybe we. don't know what was going on behind the.

scenes, but he emphasized that Nick's. parents were always there for him. Quote, "They gave him everything. They. tried a million things with him, not. giving him money, but sending him to. top-of-the-line places. Rob never gave. up. He tried [music] everything. If you. knew Rob, he was just a bundle of love.". And Marowitz said of Michelle, quote, "She was the kingpin and she was the. strength, the rock." And in fact, let me. add this. Rob had recently spoken about. his son just this past September. It was. on the Fresh Air NPR podcast. And he was.

asked, "Look, were you too busy for your. son? Did you not pay enough attention to. him?" And Rob said, "No, no, I was never. ever too busy. I mean, if anything, I. was the other way. You know, I was more. hands-on and trying to do whatever I. thought I could do to help. And you. know, I'm sure I made mistakes. And you. know, I've talked about that with him. since. You know, he's been great. He. hasn't been doing drugs for over six. years. I mean, he's in a really good. place, much better place. He's a good. place now. Now, I will say maybe Nick.

was clean at that point a few months. ago. Can't confirm what he was or wasn't. on at this point in time. And I can't. confirm that he was steadily clean since. Being Charlie came out because as. reported by Lad Bible, you remember that. 2018 interview I mentioned where Nick. sat down for the Dopey podcast? At that. time, he indicated he wasn't sober. Now, he claimed he wasn't abusing heroin, but. he also apparently confirmed that. relatively shortly after being Charlie.

came out, he relapsed, quote, that he. was back on the dope and he had what he. described as a quote cocaine heart. attack. Back to what happened here. One. of the difficulties when we talk about. Nick Reiner, and this is reported and. outlined very well by the LA Times, there is really not a lot known publicly. about what Nick has been up to since. being Charlie came out. There are photos. of Nick standing alongside his family. this past September at the Egyptian.

Theater in Hollywood. This was for the. premiere of Spinal Tattoo. The end. continues, which Rob directed. Nick. certainly looks much different. His head. is more close shaven. He has a beard. He. appears to have put on weight. And. according to the New York Post, a family. friend claims that Nick was abusing. drugs again leading up to the time of. the alleged attack and that Rob and. Michelle were very worried about his. mental state recently. The family friend. saying, quote, "Rob had been telling. people that they're scared for Nick and.

scared that his mental state was. deteriorating. These poor people did. everything to help this kid." And then. we go to 24 hours before the news of Rob. and Michelle's deaths. So, it has been. reported that Nick and Rob got into some. sort of altercation at a holiday party. that was hosted by Conan O'Brien in the. Pacific Palisades. According to the. Hollywood Reporter in Page Six, Nick, who was reportedly not invited to the. party, by the way, but his parents asked. if they could bring him. He was. reportedly wandering around the party,

interrupting conversations that people. were having and asking things like, "What's your name? What's your last. name? Are you famous?" And that. reportedly included Nick approaching. actor Bill her, the SNL alum, who. reportedly told Nick he was having a. private conversation. Nick allegedly. just stared at him and then stormed off. And later on is when Rob and Nick. apparently got into some sort of. confrontation. It has been reported that.

this was a very loud argument, possibly. about Nick's behavior at that event. And. then Rob and Michelle left shortly. after. What happens? It's reported that. that Sunday that Rob and Michelle's. daughter, Romy, who I mentioned before, that she was the one who found them. According to reporting from the New York. Times, a massage therapist had gotten a. hold of her because she couldn't reach. the couple who had an appointment that. day. And actually, this is shocking. news. Former first lady Michelle Obama.

said on Jimmy Kimmel Live that she and. her husband, former President Barack. Obama, they had plans to see Rob and. Michelle the day that they were found. So, we are talking again reported. multiple stab wounds and there is even. reporting out there and I hate to say. this that the couple their throats might. have been slit. Now, I will tell you. officially the cause of death at this. time at the time of this recording has. not officially been released. But. according to TMZ, when law enforcement. responded at around 3:40 p.m. that.

Sunday, the question becomes, had they. been dead for several hours? In fact, it. was reported that Nick had checked into. the Pierside Santa Monica in the early. morning hours that the shower was full. of blood. There were apparently bed. sheets hanging over the window. So, since Rob and Michelle's bodies weren't. found until later that day, there does. become a question. And could they have. been killed and attacked as early as. Saturday night after the Conan O'Brien. party? You know, it was also reported,

by the way, that Romy told authorities. that Nick, quote, should be a suspect. and that he should be considered. dangerous. Now, Nick was arrested only. hours later. This was at a subway. station near USC at Exposition Park. There's been video that has been. released of the moments leading up to. that arrest and the arrest. He was. apparently at a gas station just minutes. before. To be clear, after I've laid out. everything about what we know of Nick. Reiner, no motive, no official motive. has been listed for the alleged murders, but as I mentioned, he's facing murder.

charges. He's now apparently being. repped by defense attorney Alan Jackson, who, you know, represented Karen Reed. He's a very high-profile attorney. And. when Nick was doing court yesterday, he. didn't show up because, according to. Jackson, he hadn't been quote medically. cleared yet. Now, I'm going to talk more. about this, okay? But before I bring on. a law enforcement expert to talk about. this, the Hollywood Reporters, Steven. Zeitic, spoke about Rob Reiner in the. wake of his death. And he apparently had.

spoken with Rob in the past about Nick's. battle with addiction. With Rob. reportedly saying, "The number one job. of any parent is to keep their child. safe, and I hadn't done that, and now. here I have done that. I kept him safe. He came out alive." and Zichek said here. in 2025 the words kept ricocheting. through my brain. Yes, Nick had come out. alive. It was Rob that hadn't. So, I. want to talk right now about all this. I.

want to talk about the investigation, what might be happening behind the. scenes, what this is like. I mean, it's. such a high-profile case. Um, and. thinking about the Nick Reiner of it. all. So, I am joined by an incredibly. special guest. Somebody that every time. we have on, we're like, where's he going. to be? One day he's in DC, one day he's. on a cruise ship, one day he's in. London. He's sitting with me right now. Chris Swanson, Sheriff, Jennese County. Sheriff's Office. Thank you so much for. coming on. It's great to see you here uh. in New York. Um you gave me a great.

gift. I don't want anybody to forget. this. We're going to talk about this at. the end. This is a very, very, very. special gift. Um and it means a lot. So, thank you so much. We'll talk about this. now. >> This is a major story. Major story. I. just laid out everything we seem to know. about Nick Reiner. And if the. allegations are true, >> having homicides, having alleged murders. committed within the family, do you have. experience uh with this? Have you ever. seen anything like this? It seems, and. we don't have all the details, no motive.

has officially been laid out, but when. you're talking about somebody that has. this history of drug abuse, um it's. disturbing. It lays a different uh. aspect to this, different context. What. are your initial thoughts? Have you seen. anything like this? >> These are what's called crimes of. passion and there's so much emotion, especially when uh a stabbing is. involved. I recall I went to a scene. over 25 years ago where a kid shot his. dad and then stabbed him multiple times. in the chest, broke the steak knife off. in his chest, and kept stabbing him with.

another knife. And many times when these. stabbings happen and uh you have the. person directly in front, there's a. reason why they're they're they're. stabbing multiple times because they're. trying to release this rage that's been. building up and building up. It's. different than just pulling a gun and. shooting. You can still kill people that. way, but the murders that you see in. this particular case, Rob Riner and his. wife, it is a passion, hateful, rage. killing. >> And and can it come out of nowhere? If. you ask family and friends, I had no.

idea something like this was going to. happen. And we talk about all the time. people who, you know, can commit murders. for the first time. Like it just can. come out. They may have never broken the. law before, may have never been in. trouble with the law before. This inter, you know, family dynamics like this. People could be shocked by it. They had. no idea this was coming. >> The 28th of September, a lone wolf. shooter drove his truck into the LDS. church in Grand Blake, Michigan, and. shot four people and killed them. wounded seriously eight others, one. critical. One hour before he was goose.

hunting with his friends. He had dead. geese in the back of his truck before he. ran to the church. Nobody saw it coming. And and that's a, you know, kind of the. examples here. Many times those. families, again, we have to be cautious. not to jump to conclusions, but you. know, was there acts of violence that he. had shown publicly? Clearly not. But. behind the scenes, could there have. been? Yeah. But these people can snap. >> What is going on behind the scenes in. the investigation right now? Um, obviously the DA was quite tight-lipped. about uh the evidence and we don't know.

a particular motive here, but you know, I laid it all out what we seem to know. about Nick Reiner. Are investigators now. looking into his entire past? Are they. looking into that uh party that he and. his parents attended the night before. apparently at Conan O'Brien's house? Are. they interviewing people from that. party? How much do they do a deep dive. into what may have again, if the. allegations are true, may have led up to. this? So, I think it's important to know. that this is the kind of investigation. where there's probably not another. co-conspirator. So, that part is done. The victims are dead, the suspect's in.

custody, formally charged. Why did it. happen? That's the bigger question. And. the higher the profile of the killing, the the more those questions need to be. answered. So, if I was the lead. investigator, I would go all the way. back to this kid's birth. I'd go back to. not only his phone, but every. communication. We'd be doing search. warrants for every subscription he's. ever had. any way for him to. communicate, but also talking to the. family. You know, the daughter that came. up on the scene had called 911, every. neighborhood that was that he lived in, every neighbor that was in that.

particular location. You you want to ask. questions and because it's like putting. a big piece of puzzle together. You. know, this person may not think that. that piece is a big deal, but when you. put it in, it starts to paint the. picture. >> Does the celebrity nature of it affect. the investigation? Does it complicate. the investigation? >> Yeah, absolutely. >> How so? >> Because they're such a high profile. I. mean, if you look at the people involved. and, you know, we were talking about how. close that was to the OJ Simpson murder, you know, with. >> Simpson 5 minutes away. That's. >> And we're still talking about it. I bet. you people that, you know, can remember.

where they were when they saw the white. Bronco chase because it captivated, you. know, those murders, unfortunately, that. happen all the time, but high-profile. murders just have a different flavor. about it. Just like, you know, people. that, you know, kill law enforcement. that has a different flavor because it's. still taking a life, but there's, you. know, something more to it. That's why. they're more complicated because there's. a there's a higher bar, a higher. standard. >> How do they process the crime scene and. how do they process that hotel room that. he was apparently staying at where there. was blood, you know, apparently blood in. the shower? How do they process that?

>> Well, so you have outside, inside, perimeters, and actually the scene. So, you start as a like a wide lens, and. then from there you figure out because. this is a crime that has a lot of blood. So, you're trying to make sure that this. pathway that wherever he took, you can. almost match it, recreate the whole. thing. And that's what they're going to. do. So, go back to the house. Obviously, he made entry there. Do we have door. cams on the neighbors across the street? When did he make entry? How long was he. there? And then they can track his. phone. They can ping his phone. Is he. hitting off the towers? Was he there for. 5 minutes? Was he there for 15? Was he.

sitting outside getting the courage to. go in the house? Those are all questions. that need to be answered. And then when. you're in the house, having two people. killed with a knife, they don't die. automatically. So, was there a struggle. between one as he was killing the first. one? You can't kill them both at the. same time. It's not like a shooting. So, you're going to see I can't even imagine. the blood that uh has been spattered. throughout the house. They're going to. be doing all those different patterns to. see where this person was unfortunately. when the when the knife came back or. when it came down. That's all it truly. does in a in a in a very surreal sense.

paint a picture. >> They haven't even really released more. details about how Rob and Michelle were. killed. Um you have the DA saying a. knife was used. The cause of death at. the time of this recording hasn't been. released. I mean, it seems based on the. reporting, we can have an idea, right, of what happened to them. Why are. authorities being more tight-lipped. about certain details? >> Well, I think you want to keep the. integrity of the case, you know, solid. So, there's nobody jumping a conclusion. I read an article just this morning.

where things that were said a day ago. were not accurate. Yeah. >> And you don't want people to start. filling in the blanks. So there's a way. to, you know, to give as much as you can. but withholding information until it's. confirmed because you put something out. there, everybody starts to, you know, make their own conclusions. And it's not. uncommon that the cause and manner of. death and toxicologies, DNA, that could. take six months. So it's not a quick. investigation. They don't solve, you. know, cases in an hour crime show. >> Will they will they be able to know. exactly when they were killed? Because.

it's interesting. They come back from. the party. um their bodies aren't found. until hours later. Um he checks into. this other area, this hotel, right? There is a belief that they could have. been killed maybe right after the party. I mean, assuming allegedly if he did. this, um maybe in the early uh Sunday. morning hours, but there seems to be. based on the reporting evidence that. they were there uh for quite some time. How accurate can law enforcement be in. terms of determining a time of death? So. that's where medical examiners come in. because rigam mortise takes 12 hours to.

set. It lasts for 12 hours and then it. starts to dissipate. So you've got about. a 24- 36 hour window. So depending on. when they came there to do their. investigation, they're going to be able. to backtrack it to say within this time. frame, this is probably when they they. died. Now they could have been. incapacitated and taken 30 40 minutes to. bleed out and suffer because what. they're suffering from is hypoalmic. shock. That's what happens. You're. bleeding out the volume. And so that. medical examiner's report with again. surveillance and camera footage and you.

know cell phones, how long he was in the. house, how long he was not in the house, they're going to be able to track it to. a certain pretty close timeline. >> The excellent work from law enforcement. here. It was a relatively quick arrest. I mean it was only hours after the law. enforcement came on the scene. Uh they. arrest him and it was really interesting. because this video came out where you. allegedly see Nick Reiner at a gas. station. This is right before police. swoop in, they arrest him. I know you. saw the video of both. What were your. takeaways from that?

>> Well, I think the quick turnaround was. because they probably knew they had. footage and they reviewed the footage. Clearly, if you respond to a scene where. you have two deceased victims of a. potential homicide, the first thing to. do is let's get the cameras, let's. download, and let's find out where the. suspect is. We do that for active. shooters. you know, in Michigan State. University when the active shooter was. several years ago where that picture. came out. Within a short amount of time, he was arrested within miles because you. get that photo out for law enforcement. That's what we want to do. And for that. neighborhood, I guarantee there's. footage everywhere. So, they probably. had a really good idea it was he.

>> Then when they tracked him, they. probably had his phone because of the. sister. They pinged his cell phone. They. knew exactly where he was. You could. tell by when he was walking in the. store. Very melancholy. His demeanor. His demeanor was interesting. >> Just killed your parents. Well, allegedly, >> you know, I mean, yeah, allegedly, but. that that's the mindset. And then you're. walking out and then as soon as the. first contact was made with law. enforcement, what did he do? Put his. hands up, laid right down, total. compliant. He knew at that point that it. was over. >> Unbelievable.

There's so much we don't know. Uh we're. going to continue to stay on it. Uh my. colleague Chris Stewart as well is on it. as well. We want to try to get all the. details about what happened here, full. understanding. We'll follow this as it. continues into the legal process. Um, Sheriff, before I let you go, you gave. me this incredible gift. Now, >> this was made. >> by survivors of human trafficking. Explain a little bit more about this um. because I think it's really important. work that you do and to wear this um.

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algorithm. >> Yep. Well, you do great work. We do. great. You do great work. We just try to. cover it as best as we can. Thank you so. much for coming on. It was a pleasure. Happy holidays to you and your family. >> Brother, congratulations on your. success. >> Thank you. And that's all we have for. you right now here on Sidebar, everybody. Thank you so much for joining. us. And as always, please subscribe on. YouTube, Apple Podcast, Spotify, [music]. wherever you should get your podcasts. You can follow me on X or Instagram. I'm. Jesse Weber. I'll speak to you next. time.