Epstein Docs Deleted to Protect President Trump?

Okay, we got to talk about this. Bombshell new reporting claims there are. key documents about sexual assault. allegations involving President Donald. Trump that are missing from the Epstein. files release. So, we're going to break. down how these outlets and journalists. are coming up with this, what this. [music] could mean, and the responses we. are already seeing. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law and Crime. I'm [music]. Jesse Weber. By the way, if you're into content. creation, if you're putting things out. on social media, have you ever wondered.

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that the DOJ, the Department of Justice, withheld files from being made public. that were related to allegations that. President Donald Trump sexually abused a. minor. And regarding Epstein's. allegations that somehow involve Trump, this is a major major issue. Although. when we looked at it, there is some. stuff that's maybe not entirely clear. So, I'm going to go through that. But. here's the big picture. Throughout the. release of these millions of pages of. documents through the Epstein Files. Transparency Act, there has been a.

rumor, a belief, an allegation that the. DOJ wasn't actually transparent. whether. or not they are hiding something, whether or not you are seeing everything. there is to see. And by the way, that. comes in multiple forms. You have. members of Congress reviewing the. unredacted Epstein files at the. Department of Justice, claiming there. were redactions that should have not. been made or that there needs to be. further investigations despite what the. DOJ says. Many people will refuse to. accept or believe the DOJ FBI's.

assessment that there is no evidence of. third parties other than Epstein or his. convicted accomplice Galain Maxwell. sexually abusing women or girls. I've. mentioned this before, I'll mention it. again. You had the FBI internal case. summary within the Epstein files. There. was this internal memo that said the. case agents and a USA's ensured that all. videos and images from the case file and. from Epstein's residences and devices. were reviewed for evidence of a crime. Those reviews reveal no evidence from. any of the searches we conducted or any. of the files we reviewed that any videos. or other images exist of any victims in.

this case being sexually abused. Nor did. those reviews reveal any evidence that. anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell. participated in the sexual abuse of. victims in this case. We are aware of. the theory circulated in the media and. online that Epstein video recorded the. abuse of his victims, including by other. men, but we have found no evidence to. support that theory. Indeed, had we. found such videos, we certainly would. have used them as evidence in the. criminal cases we investigated and. prosecuted and would have pursued any. leads they generated. We did not, however, locate any such videos. I read. through that fast cuz I mentioned it.

before, but here's the thing. I want to. get to this. With all that in mind, you. now have this reporting by NPR that I. want to break down. The outlet claims. that there are more than 50 pages of FBI. interviews and notes that are missing. right now and that they regard this. accusation that Donald Trump years ago. sexually abused a child. So the natural. question is why does NPR believe this? And by the way, I should tell you, you. have to assume for an outlet like NPR to. make such a claim, to make such a report. against the sitting president of the.

United States. And by the way, they made. this on the eve of his State of the. Union address. they better feel pretty. confident in their analysis and. reporting to do this, okay? Otherwise, they could potentially subject. themselves to intense blowback and maybe. even legal liability. So, the reason. they are reporting this is they claimed. they looked at the serial numbers of the. pages in the Epstein files and they say. there are quote dozens of pages that. look like they were cataloged by the. Department of Justice but are missing.

They weren't released. Now, before we go. any further, I want to remind everybody. about the law here and what the. Department of Justice is technically. permitted to exclude from release under. the Epstein Files Transparency Act. So, according to the law, the attorney. general can withhold redact materials. that contain personally identifiable. information of victims or that contain. child sexual abuse materials or that. would jeopardize an active federal. investigation or prosecution. and even. things that depict or contain images of.

death, physical abuse, injury. There was. also a section that said information. that could basically jeopardize national. defense or foreign policy can be. withheld or redacted. However, Attorney. General Pam Bondi wrote a letter to. members of Congress that records were. not being withheld on that basis. And. she did indicate that records were being. withheld on the basis of privilege. So, such as attorney client privilege or. deliberative process privilege. That's. basically the inner workings and. thoughts regarding how a government. agency comes to a decision. It's kind of.

like executive privilege. Now, Bondi. also guaranteed that no records were. withheld quote on the basis of. embarrassment, reputational harm, or. political sensitivity, including to any. government official, public figure, or. foreign dignitary. Natural conclusion. would be if there was something. embarrassing about the president, they're not going to withhold it. So the. question is as we go through this, if. there were materials withheld, were they. withheld under one of those other. exceptions? I don't know. Let's go. through this. I want to go back to the. reporting from NPR. So NPR explains, and.

this is something we talked about in a. previous sidebar, how the FBI compiled. this list of accusations against Donald. Trump, and the tips apparently came into. the FBI's National Threat Operations. Center. Now the problem is this was an. issue of secondhand information and also. an issue of there was no corroborating. evidence to necessarily support these. claims on the face of it. So for example. you have this one and this is the one. that we're going to be focusing on. Redacted reported an unidentified female.

friend who was forced to perform on. President Trump approximately 35 years. ago in New Jersey. The friend told. redacted that she was approximately 13. to 14 years old when this occurred and. the friend allegedly bit President Trump. while performing. The friend was. allegedly hit in the face after she. laughed about biting President Trump. The friend said she was also abused by. Epstein. And by the way, there is a note. that that lead was sent to the. Washington office to conduct an.

interview. Keep that in mind. We're. going to talk about that. But just to. give you an idea about the other tips. that uh came in, here's another one. Online complainant reported she was a. victim and witness to a sex trafficking. ring at the Trump Golf Course in Rancho. Palos Verdice, California between 1995. and 1996. Complainant reported Galain. Maxwell as the madam and broker for sex. parties. Clients of whom included. Epstein, Robin Leech, remember. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous, and. Donald Trump. complainant reported. participating in orgies and that some. girls went missing. Rumored to have been.

murdered and buried at the facility. Complainant reported being threatened by. Trump's then head of security. That if. she ever talked of what went on there or. who she saw, she would quote end up as. fertilizer for the back nine holes. Now, there is a note there. Complainant was. spoken to and deemed not credible. Additional research showed three. separate incidents involving police. which requested in mandatory psychiatric. evaluations. So again, keep these. allegations with a grain of salt. But. there's also more allegations. One of.

complainant's ex-girlfriend's daughters. told complainant Trump raped her, as did. Epstein. Complainant reported Donald. Trump participated regularly in paying. money to force her to perform sex acts. with him and alleged Trump was present. when her uncle murdered her newborn. child. Donald Trump, the president, had. parties at Mara Lago called Girls. Jeffrey Epstein would bring the children. in and Trump would auction them off. Again, these are all allegations that. came in, but you have serious issues of. credibility, corroboration, not being. able to follow up on tips. And remember,

the DOJ came forward and said, quote, "This production may include fake or. falsely submitted images, documents, or. videos, as everything that was sent to. the FBI by the public was included in. the production that is responsive to the. act. Some of the documents contain. untrue and sensationalistic claims. against President Trump that were. submitted to the FBI right before the. 2020 election. To be clear, the claims. are unfounded and false. And if they. have a shred of credibility, they. certainly would have been weaponized. against President Trump already. Okay.

Want to go back to the one that was. apparently sent to the Washington. office. The allegation that Trump had. forced a child to perform oral sex on. him. According to NPR, this allegation. was different. This allegation was taken. so seriously that it was included in an. FBI PowerPoint presentation. and that. the President Donald Trump was listed. under the prominent name section. So. there's two different allegations here. One redacted stated Epstein introduced.

her to Trump who subsequently forced her. head down to his exposed private area. which she subsequently bit. In response, Trump punched her in the head and kicked. her out. Date range 1983 to 1985. Redacted would have been 13 to 15. Here's a second allegation that. apparently was taken seriously. Redacted. remembered Epstein introduced her to. Trump saying, "This is a good one, huh?". And Trump responded, "Yes, Date range. roughly 1984 would have been 14." Now,

we're going to get back to that second. allegation a little bit later on. By the. way, there were other names on this. PowerPoint, too. Bill Clinton, Leon. Black, Howard Lutnik, Les Wexner. We've. talked about them a lot on Sidebar, but. but NPR makes the point. Here's the big. deal. that these allegations against. Donald Trump only appear in two places. in the Epstein files. One, that list of. yellow highlighted allegations compiled. by the FBI, which I mentioned before,

and this slideshow that they're not in. any other Epstein files. In other words, isn't that strange? Isn't that curious? And then they highlight that when you. look at the FBI case files and documents. that were sent over to Galain Maxwell. and her attorneys during her federal. criminal case on sex trafficking of. minors charges. This new claim takes on. a very different meaning because NPR. makes the point that the FBI actually. interviewed this Trump accuser who was.

claiming abuse in the 1980s. four times in 2019. Now, this is. reporting that is also supported by MS. Now, who claims they too found that. there is only one memo regarding these. multiple interviews with this woman, that there were no handwritten notes. found. So, in other words, this account. about this woman saying she was abused. by Donald Trump in the 1980s was taken. seriously. There were follow-up. interviews, but in the Epstein files,

you can't find out any more information. about it. Now, how does NPR know that. this accuser was interviewed four times? This is where it gets a little bit. tricky. So, in their article, they cite. an FBI serial report. Now, they don't. provide a hyperlink embedded in the. article. So, I don't see the actual. document that they're referring to in. the Epstein files library on the DOJ. website. Like, I can't find this FBI. serial report. Maybe you guys out there. can find it where it would show, hey,

this accuser was interviewed four times. I couldn't find it. But NPR also cites a. list of non-estifying witness material. in Galileain Maxwell's case. Okay. Now, I did find this. And NPR claims that. there is only one of four interviews. with this accuser in the database. And. how does this non-estifying witness list. prove that? So, I go to the reporting. from independent political reporter. Roger Solenberger. And by the way, NPR. even cites his reporting. He claimed OnX.

that this Trump accuser's case file. number is 3501.045. Now, to be clear, I'm not sure how he. knows this, but assume for a moment that. he's correct. When you go to page 8 of. this full chart, next to that file. number, there do appear to be four. separate interviews on four separate. dates. They're called 302 interviews. 302 is the form that's used by the FBI. to memorialize an interview and usually.

includes handwritten notes. They're. later used to support testimony. But. according to Solom and NPR and MS Now, there is only one interview that is. available and able to be seen in the. Epstein files, the one seemingly. conducted on July 24th, 2019. This. initial one. So now you might be saying, "Okay, wait, where are the other. interviews with this person or about. this person?" Right? I'm going to get to. that. But if you go to this first. interview, okay, and again, seemingly. the only publicly available interview. with this person. And if we assume this.

is the Trump accuser, this person. describes mostly her abuse at the hands. of Epstein. But then I want you to. listen to this section that is in the. interview. It says, quote, Redacted. later viewed the image sent to her with. her friend and neighbor, Redacted. Redacted told Redacted, "That is the. person who has caused me great harm and. affected my entire life. He's a. nightmare." Upon request by the agents, Redacted accessed the image and before. she showed the picture to the. interviewing agents, Redacted asked. whether she could crop the photograph to.

include only the man she was referring. to, essentially cropping out one or more. individuals also included in the. picture. Redacted attorney, Mr. Redacted, off-handedly mentioned the. word president while looking at the. image on the cell phone. The agents. asked whether Redacted would be. comfortable explaining why she wanted to. crop the photograph. When Redacted. hesitated, Redacted attorney advised. Redacted was concerned about implicating. additional individuals and specifically.

any that were well-known due to fear of. retaliation. The agents advised Redacted. she could crop the image to show only. what she felt comfortable with if she. felt it was necessary. Administrative. note, Redacted agreed to allow the. agents to take a photograph of the. cropped image. Of note, the particular. image sent to her by Redacted was. recognized by agents as a widely. distributed photograph of Jeffrey. Epstein and current United States. President Donald Trump. The cropped. image redacted provided to the agents. only included Jeffrey Epstein. Redacted.

advised the agent she was 100% positive. the man in the photograph was Jeff, the. man who she initially believed she was. hired to babysit for and who sexually. abused redacted multiple times beginning. when she was approximately 13 years old. on redacted. So if I understand this. correctly this interview she doesn't. come out and say that Donald Trump. sexually assaulted her or anybody else. rather there seems to be an effort to. make sure he's not included in her.

allegations. There is a hint of concern. regarding Trump being identified right. now. Why? Could it be that she's scared? Could it be that something really did. happen and she's legitimately afraid of. retaliation? Or does she not want to. give off the false concept that the. president was involved in something that. he really wasn't? And again, according. to NPR's reporting, there are more. interviews about this that are just. missing, that haven't been publicly. released, and we do not know what is in.

them. Again, this is based on NPR's. reporting, and MS Now supports it, and. Roger Sullenberger supports it. So, you. go back to NPR's initial claim that. there are missing more than 50 pages of. FBI interviews and notes with this woman. who allegedly accused Trump of sexual. abuse. And more specifically, the outlet. claims that out of 15 documents listed. in that log related to this accuser or. this accusation, only seven are in the. Epstein file library. And also missing. are the notes that accompany the.

interviews with this person. And this is. important. According to NPR's analysis. of the files, they say when you look at. the sets of serial numbers of these. documents, there are about 53 pages. missing. Now, it's possible that those. interview documents are buried in the. millions and millions of documents. released. So, it doesn't show up when. you search the library, but is it true. that it was deleted? Where is all this? If that's true, why is it really about. the president? Is it really about these. allegations? Why are they not there? And.

particularly, if you're talking about a. Trump accuser, what was allegedly said. in those interviews? Was it subject to. privilege? Was it subject to another. exception? Was it part of an ongoing. investigation? Did it have personally. identifiable information about a victim. and it couldn't be released? Seems. strange considering that interview that. was released had very graphic details. Was it nonresponsive to the Epstein. case? Probably unlikely. So why wasn't. it produced if this if this reporting is. true? Look, as of right now, there is.

not a clear explanation. So, in other. words, this accusation about Trump. allegedly abusing a young girl in the. 1980s was taken seriously enough to. seemingly warrant multiple interviews. about this. We don't know what was said. And look, I'm piecing together the. reporting from Solom and NPR and MS Now. to kind of make sense of all this and. these allegations. But if true, you can. understand why this is concerning. And. one of the things that both NPR and MS. Now highlight is this internal FBI email. that was dated July 22nd, 2025 regarding.

names in J file. And under positive case. hits highlighted in yellow, which is. meant to represent salacious. information, it states Donald Trump. One. identified victim claimed abuse by Trump. but ultimately refused to cooperate. Now, we don't know for sure if that is. the same person that we've been talking. about, but it's possible. And it should. also be noted that next to other names. on this list like Bill Gates, Jean Luke. Bernell, Lex Wexner, Harvey Weinstein,

Donald Trump is the only one with a note. like that next to his name. Now, there. is a second part to the NPR reporting I. want to talk about. Remember when I said. there was a second claim from a. different person in that FBI slideshow? Redacted. remembered Epstein introduced. her to Trump saying, "This is a good. one, huh?" And Trump responded, "Yes, it. seems this accuser is file number 3509.". I mean, that's the file number on her. interview, which I'll talk about. And.

that number is listed in a testifying. witness 3500 material list in Gain. Maxwell's criminal trial. 3500 material. are statements of government witnesses. Anyway, when you look at 3509 in this. list, and as reported by NPR, there. appear to be six interviews. In what. appears to be the first one where she. claims she was sexually abused by. Jeffrey Epstein as a child, it says. this. In the beginning, before the pool. house incident, Epste showed off to. Redacted. Epstein told Redacted that he. had famous friends that he would call.

and put on speakerphone. Epste took. Redacted in a dark green car to Mara. Lago to meet Donald Trump. Epstein told. Trump, "This is a good one, huh?". Thought Epstein introduced her as his. friend to Trump. Now, NPR also notes. that in a lawsuit against Epstein's. estate and Gla Maxwell, this accuser. even added that she quote felt. uncomfortable, but at the same time was. too young to understand why, meaning she. felt uncomfortable about this. interaction. Now, why am I mentioning. this? Well, NPR alleges that this.

interview was removed from the Epstein. database after initial publication and. then was republished 20 days later. So, somebody will look at this and say that. seems suspicious. Now, I will tell you. NPR explains that the DOJ has said it. removed and then re-uploaded files. because a victim or their attorney would. flag it for review. So, possibly to add. redactions. Maybe that's what happened. here. I mean, there was a lot of. controversy regarding the DOJ failing to. properly protect victim identifiable. information, but NPR further claims that.

another mention about this accuser that. made a small mention of Donald Trump was. also removed from the database and then. it was republished. And then they say. there was another interview that was. taken offline, although I will tell you. I think it may be back up now. If this. is the same document they're talking. about, it's basically about the same. accuser. And there's this brief mention. of Donald Trump. says this. Redacted. told Redacted that Maxwell and Epstein. used to visit her at Redacted. Redacted. would tell Redacted that famous people. would go to Epstein's house. Redacted. heard that a prince and Donald Trump.

visited Epstein's house and this made. Redacted think that if they are there, then how could Epstein be a criminal? I'm just mentioning this because you're. going to hear allegations that anything. about Trump or a lot of things about. Trump were taken offline or were taken. offline and republished. So, there's. going to be accusations that things were. edited or material was omitted. I'm just. mentioning it for this point. Now, as. we're talking about allegations of not. including Donald Trump related materials. in the Epstein files release, MS Now. reported something else. Jane Jane was. an accuser who testified against Maxwell.

at her criminal trial and described her. abuse at the hands of Maxwell and. Epstein. And while Jane testified that. Epstein introduced her to Donald Trump. at Mara Lago when she was just 14 years. old, MS now claims that handwritten. notes from her interview and a witness. statement from someone apparently close. to her allegedly that stuff nowhere to. be found in the Epstein files. So either. they weren't included or they were. possibly taken down. That seems to be. the allegation from this reporting. Now,

NPR claims that the DOJ has reached out. to them in response that a spokesperson. said that any documents that were not. published are because they're. privileged. They're duplicates. They're. related to an ongoing federal. investigation. You had White House. spokesperson Abigail Jackson tell NPR. that quote, "Trump has done more for. Epstein's victims than anyone before. him." Just as President Trump has said, he's been totally exonerated on anything. relating to Epstein. and by releasing. thousands of pages of documents, cooperating with the House Oversight. Committee subpoena request, signing the. Epstein Files Transparency Act and.

calling for more investigations into. Epstein's Democrat friends, President. Trump has done more for Epstein's. victims than anyone before him. Meanwhile, Democrats like Hakee Jeff and. Stacy Plask have yet to explain why they. were soliciting money and meetings from. Epstein after he was a convicted sex. offender. On X, the Oversight Democrats. account released the following statement. from ranking member Robert Garcia. For. the last few weeks, oversight Democrats. have been investigating the FBI's. handling of allegations from 2019 of. sexual assault on a minor made against. President Donald Trump by a survivor.

Yesterday, I reviewed unredacted. evidence logs at the Department of. Justice. Oversight Democrats can confirm. that the DOJ appears to have illegally. withheld FBI interviews with this. survivor who accused President Trump of. heinous crimes. Oversight Democrats will. open a parallel investigation into this. Under the Oversight Committee subpoena. and the Epstein Files Transparency Act, these records must immediately be shared. with Congress and the American public. Covering up direct evidence of potential. assault by the president of the United. States is the most serious possible. crime in this White House coverup. The.

DOJ rapid response account on X posted. at oversight. Democrats should stop. misleading the public while. manufacturing outrage from their radical. anti-Trump base. at the Justice. Department has repeatedly said publicly. and directly to NPR prior to deadline. Nothing has been deleted. If files are. temporarily pulled for victim redactions. or to redact personally identifiable. information, then those documents are. promptly restored online and are. publicly available. All responsive. documents have been produced unless a. document falls within one of the.

following categories: duplicates, privileged, or part of an ongoing. federal investigation. Look, I hope this. all made sense, okay? But again, this is. based on reporting from NPR, MS Now, Solom. The story is circulating right. now. I imagine this is not the last we. will hear of it. We will see if these. interviews, the interview notes, more. information is actually published and. whether or not there's a follow-up on. this, but we'll keep a very careful eye. on what happens on this particular. Epstein topic. That's all we have for. you right now here on Sidebar. Thank you.

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