Dozens of Names Linked to Jeffrey Epstein To Be Unsealed in January

more than a hundred of Jeffrey Epstein's. Associates and contacts could be. revealed in the new year as a trove of. court documents are set to be released. we're digging deeper into what that. could mean for those with alleged. connections to the convicted sex. offender as well as the court case the. documents are a part of all with. freelance journalist Daniel Bates who. has been following the story welcome to. sidebar presented by law on crime I'm. Jesse. Weber he is one of the most infamous.

names worldwide everybody knows him. Jeffrey Epstein convicted sex offender. he died in a New York prison in August. of 2019 as he was awaiting trial on. charges that he engaged in sex. trafficking of young girls he ended up. hanging himself but now more than four. years later we are learning more about. the people connected to him and his. operation now this all stems from a. lawsuit that was filed by an alleged. victim Virginia Roberts she claims that. Epstein and his C consp spirator glain.

Maxwell set up her to be assaulted by. prince Andrew the Duke of York Maxwell. was convicted of child sex trafficking. in 2021 she's currently serving a. 20-year sentence in a Florida prison but. Roberts sued Maxwell for defamation in. 2015 and the case was settled but it. didn't end there because media Outlets. had requested all of these documents. that were involved in the case they. wanted them to be made public well now. judge Loretta presca of the southern. district of New York has decided that.

over 150 names connected to Epstein and. Maxwell will be unsealed in full in all. of these hundreds of files but these are. not just victims it could be friends it. could be alleged Associates employees. and more these people have all been. listed as John and Jane Doe up until now. this is a very big development it's. looking like the public release will. happen January 1st 2024 what a way to. start the new year so with that I want.

to bring in Daniel Bates a freelance. journalist who wrote a great piece on. this on The Daily Mail he's been. following this case very closely but. first let me just say Daniel good to see. you uh it's been several years though. Daniel and I first met in New York when. we were covering the Harvey Weinstein. trial we were out at 5: am in the. freezing cold together so good to see. you again yeah good to see you that was. H that was a a test of physical. endurance that trial you know what was. amazing about that it was literally like. the the the verdict happened and then I.

think it was the sentencing and then it. was like literally what was it two weeks. no a few days later the pandemic hit I. remember being in that courtroom and I. was like some I was like this it's. amazing like the last time the public we. were all together somewhere yeah that's. right I I remember cursing the court. officer who kept opening the windows and. now he's my hero basically yep yep there. you go there you go um all right let's. talk about Jeffrey Epstein let's first. start why is this happening now why did.

the judge decide to do this well this. has been sitting around for quite some. time you know and it's the last batch of. these documents we've had you know um. six or seven now since 2019 when the. first lock came out and you know really. it's it's been waiting to happen for. some time and I'm not sure where the. judge decided to do it now uh maybe it. was the end of the year she wanted to. clear her decks but this has been you. know in the offing for quite some time. and um it's finally happened so and um. as as you mentioned what we're going to.

get is by my count the the details about. 177 people who are associated with. Jeffrey epsteam now we don't have their. names yet but we have descriptions of. some of them and they include Epstein's. recruiters um his associates some of the. victims um and it's going to be a. significant amount of information so my. understanding is and correct me if I'm. wrong the judge reason that it was okay. to publish all these names because many. of them have already been mentioned in. the media so there's going to be a.

number of names that we already know and. we could talk about who those people. might be but it seems also the judge. said that it might not be uh a salacious. as we thought uh and you know that there. the details might not be you know so. clear so CU people might look at this. and say wait a minute don't we know all. these names don't we know a lot of. what's been released why is this. different yeah I think I I think that. the judge had to balance the sort of the. right of the public to know um with the.

Privacy interests of of the individuals. and in 10 cases um she said that those. details shouldn't be made public because. they were minor victims whose names. haven't been out there you know at the. other end of the scale you have. high-profile people who who have been. written about a lot and have been the. subject of a lot of um a lot of media. reporting already their names have been. out there linked to Epstein so you know. there's there's there's little reason to. sort of keep them private you know the. these these releases have been a mixed. bag some have had really interesting. stuff some have just been very dry.

documents and the thing is that we we we. don't know what's going to be in there I. think what I'm probably expecting more. than anything else is more shades on. what we already know you know sort of uh. extra excerpts of depositions that we. haven't necessarily seen before you know. perhaps some police reports you know so. the figures that we probably already. know but more information about them you. know as to who they might be I don't. know um some of the famous men who. associated with Jeffrey Epstein as we. know included prince Andrew and Bill. Clinton so any insight into them would. have course um you know be be explosive.

but I I say I'm not necessarily. expecting any new names but what I am. expecting is more flesh on the bones of. what we already knew which if it does. involve high-profile men may be enough. that's so interesting you think it's not. going to be necessarily new names. because I wonder what would constitute. somebody being in there is it somebody. who just had a conversation with Jeffrey. Epstein was at a dinner with Jeffrey. Epstein I I I guess I'm trying to. understand what would have made it. important to be in the files that they. are counted as one of the names that. will be uh released.

I mean the the way that names have come. in already that we know uh you know. people were named in depositions for. example you know Virginia Roberts or. Virginia JRA she she alleged that she. was forced to have sex with a number of. high-profile men including former New. Mexico Governor Bill Richardson and. billionaire hedge fund manager Glenn. Dubin both of who denied the claims um. and she said that in a deposition which. was unsealed in a previous batch of. these you know other things that other. allegations have been made in police. documents and so forth so I think I. think it's it's we'll have to see what's.

in the documents but um in particular. I'm looking for um you know expanded um. depositions from a couple of people and. in particular um one of Prince Andrew's. accusers Joanna. sherg all right we want to thank Morgan. and Morgan for sponsoring this video I. think it's pretty clear from the stories. that we cover that it is not always safe. out there and when you're hurt it can be. pretty confusing it can be scary and you. really don't know where to turn well. Morgan and Morgan is actually the. largest injury law firm in America and. at a time when you already have so much.

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get uh a pile of stuff related to each. John or Jane Doe and you're going to. have to go through it so there'll. probably be dry legal motions you know. things that aren't necessarily very. interesting and the next document will. be a fascinating deposition So based on. previous experience it's going to be a. real hodg podge of stuff a real mixture. of things and um you just have to go in. and weed through it now again my. understanding is if anybody believes. their names are in these documents the. judge has given them a way to get out. right well yeah I mean what's what's.

interesting about this last batch is. that by and large these weren't people. who objected to their names coming out. you know in the previous batches it was. far more contentious because these those. were the people who said no I don't want. my names coming out they in some cases. there were lawyers in court I'm arguing. on behalf of them but these are people. who who for the most part didn't raise. any objections so they either don't care. not bothered or or just just want to be. done with it so so on the one hand you. could argue you well you know that means.

it's perhaps less salacious on the other. hand perhaps these are people who just. think well I just want to move on I. don't want you know to to fight it let's. let let the chips fall where they may so. you know you could argue that both ways. I don't think anybody wants their name. with Jeffrey Epstein in any kind of. context I mean look so the judge has. given anyone named in the documents two. weeks to object to their information. being made public otherwise it is going. to be Rel released on New Year's Day or. right after how would they know their.

names are in there I mean that's the. question right I mean how would they. know would and how would we know if. anybody cuz I'm also thinking like if. someone were to object is that private. is that sealed Would we not know if they. object how so how would they know their. names are even in the documents and how. could we know if there anybody who. objects well going back to the start of. this whole process you know years ago. now um everyone who popped up in these. files was originally notified you know. so um this isn't the first time they've.

had an opportunity to raise concerns so. I guess judge preser is giving them a. sort of final chance to to sort of say. Hey you know like I don't want my name. out there so um the court obviously. knows who all these people are because. they have the unsealed versions of the. documents and those names will not be. made made public to everyone else until. um until the whole process is completed. but yeah I mean they have had you know. ample opportunity to um to to register. any objections and if they register an. objection between now now uh in the next.

two weeks will we know about. it well I think we would I think we. would know that someone's lodged an. objection I don't think we would know. the identity of that person and if their. objection is successful then then we may. never know their objection so this news. broke uh it's been an interesting 24. hours uh what have you seen from the. response uh regarding this how is the. media Amplified this message and used it. I mean what have you seen in terms of um. because it it it is different you know. it's not like um uh flight logs or.

something like this this is a. significant development in my eyes in my. eyes what have you seen in terms of the. response to this news I mean it's been. picked up very very widely I mean ABC. News covered it I saw the New York. posted and a number of other media. Outlets too and I think it's I think. it's because the the the scale of it the. sheer number of names I mean in previous. cases as I mentioned they involve people. who are objected so you were looking at. a dozen or two dozen people but here. you've got 177 people so it's it's a lot. of people people um and I think the the.

size and potential scale of it is is. what's really C people's attention so. it's it's had a big response and been. picked up widely what about ver from. Virginia Roberts because she was the one. who launched this. lawsuit well also the Miami Herald you. know they were actually technically the. ones who let me phrase let me phrase she. launched a defamation suit but yes it. was media Outlets who wanted the public. release we haven't had any comment from. from Virginia yet I mean I I I. understand that that you know her her. lawyers are the ones who who have been.

um helping to sort of push for forther. you know sort of uh increase Public. Access with these documents in. conjunction with the Miami Herald so um. you know I guess her sort of her team's. position is that they want as much. Public Access as possible but we haven't. heard directly from her on this and when. we see what these who these names are um. you know the way we have to look at it. right is it seems to me from what this. you know everything we know about the. case there were people who had. connections to EP. it doesn't necessarily mean they knew.

about his operations but what I do think. is interesting their contact with him. after he uh he he was convicted right. after he pled guilty yeah yeah I mean. anything to do with Epstein is absolute. Kryptonite but anyone who had you know. dealings with him after he served 15. months in jail you know and came out um. and I think that was in 2009 and by that. point he was a registered sex offender. you know I mean and he and he admitted. having sex with underage girls with. minors and yet people were still.

associating with him so as we saw with. Bill Gates this week you know the Wall. Street Journal reported that in 2014. long after Epstein came out of prison. you know he had a meeting um with. Epstein and and a and a and a Polish. model who was being abused by him in his. office his Microsoft Office in Seattle. and and and you do have to wonder you. know what on Earth were you thinking I. mean this guy is a is a sex offender. he's a pedophile and you're inviting him. to your office in Seattle it's um it's. just inexcusable so if there's anyone. who has any links or dealings with.

Epstein in that time frame I think it. would be um very bad for them indeed and. you would imagine these documents would. have dates on them I mean that's going. to be significant too looking at that. that if we try to create a timeline yeah. that's right I mean I think we'll you. know if it's a deposition obviously. people will be asked you know when did. this happen when was this meeting if. there's other kinds of documents you. know I think we'll we'll have that I. mean we had a massive release of. information earlier this year with um. documents from the US Virgin Island. which had a lot of Epstein's calendars.

and schedules and I went through them. and they were very good for dates but um. I would imagine that that there would be. some kind of dates you know if a claim. like that was made and by the way just. to be clear for anybody who doesn't know. back in 2008 uh Epstein took what would. say a cont controversial plea deal uh. where he pled guilty to State charges. out in Florida of one count of. soliciting prostitution and one count of. soliciting prostitution from someone. under the age of 18 I'm very curious. what you expect from The Fallout of this. so January 1st happens that week we see.

the names I I just don't know what we. should all be expecting in terms of um. you know the questions the responses. people's names are listed I I is it. going to be a little bit of a crazy. storm I think uh you know as I said the. previous releases um from this case that. the judge presco has approved have been. a really mixed bag some of them have. just been you know boring Le boring. legal stuff you know motions counter. motions argument and so forth you know. yet in another release we had emails.

between prince Andrew and Gillan Maxwell. which we've never seen before you know. showing the panic when she first went. public with her you know her allegations. against him you know also we had a a. sort of draft of Virginia's Memoir which. was included in a in a previous. unsealing so you know again the the. scale of it and and and and and the. number of people involved means that uh. it's hard to tell you know what might be. in there or who might be in there you. know so um I think if it does come out.

on the first week of January it's um. it's going to be a busy time for a lot. of journalists including including me. yep uh I I don't uh Envy you because. you'll be doing like uh you know tons of. dock review going through it all but. what a way to start 2024 which is. already going to be a very weird year uh. Daniel Bates thank you so much sir I. really appreciate it thank you all right. everybody that is all we have for you. right now here on sidebar thank you so. much for joining us please subscribe on. Apple podcast Spotify YouTube wherever.

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