‘Dark Chapter’: Victim of Ruby Franke’s Business Partner Tells All, Details Disturbing ‘Therapy’

and the world needs to know it because. they are doing Jody hildebrandt's doing. the same thing right now with these kids. that she did to me Adam Steed says he. went to Jody Hildebrandt for counseling. because he needed help but she betrayed. his trust and now he's here to tell his. story. welcome to law and crime's sidebar. podcast I'm Anjanette Levy Jody. Hildebrandt is the friend and business. partner of Mormon YouTuber Ruby Frankie. we've been covering the arrest of. Hildebrandt and Frankie for weeks now.

for you as they stand accused of abusing. Frankie's children Hildebrandt owns. connections classroom a business that. offers counseling for couples and. individuals along with coaching for. businesses Frankie worked with. Hildebrandt at connections prior to. connections Hildebrandt worked as his. therapist treating people who struggled. with addiction to drugs and alcohol one. of her former clients is a man named. Adam Steed Steed says he was sexually. abused by someone with the Boy Scouts of.

America when he lived in Idaho as a. child he then moved to Utah he became. married and that's when he met Jody. Hildebrandt when did you first encounter. Jody Hildebrandt. so. my my Mormon Bishop asked me. to go me and my wife to go to her I had. just. I finished. um passing the statute of limitations in.

Idaho for criminal and civil sexual. child abuse they had this bizarre. statute for five years. and and I had changed that with my dad. and and a lot of people that we had done. a Grassroots movement together and I. moved down to Utah and I had just. finished a settlement case with Boy. Scouts of America. and then. like immediately afterwards my Bishop. asked me to go to Jody Hildebrandt which. my wife for his therapy Adam Steed says.

he and his wife were seeking cow Ling. for ordinary issues that come up in any. marriage. yeah just normal marriage issues outside. the fact there was a lot of stress on. our marriage because uh. we had done a settlement for child abuse. with Boy Scouts of America. you know and we were having an you know. my uh we had a one-year-old baby and we. had a newborn coming along and and we. were both in school at Brigham Young. University trying to do all of our. credits and.

and you know my ex-wife had some issues. as well that that were kind of difficult. and and and I I had Trauma from what. happened to me in the past and. and uh you know we were just trying to. be normal people and live a normal life. and and start and have a beautiful life. after some of the things we've been gone. we've gone through. um. you know I it's it's hard for me to talk.

about this stuff because it's so. traumatic what year was this that you. were being counseled by Jody Hildebrand. 2008 we we just finished the scouting. settlement I think I had the psych. evaluation for the damage it had done to. me somewhere in like the late fall. and then I think around Christmas or. winter or something we had settled this. case. all right. somewhere in the early early January or. February and I think it was in April.

that I had started therapy with Jody. helderberg a group therapy was Jody. Hildebrandt what's me and my wife how. did the counseling start did it seem to. go well at first or. or or did were there red flags right. away. you know I I will tell you a story that. um. Jody hildebrandt's more sophisticated. than a normal person in a lot of ways.

she evolved into what she became you. know she works that she put us in a. phase one there's phase two and phase. three of the particular group she was in. at the point and phase one she didn't it. wasn't very intense it was light-hearted. and fun and you know think of like a PG. movie or something and a lady that's. just charismatic and fun and teaching. these principles about delusion denial. and all this kind of stuff. codependency using small examples in.

people's lives where they didn't realize. they were in this state and the whole. room laughing about it uh that was phase. one and it was you know. um couples all happy couples thinking. there was this incredible lady you know. what when she separated. the couples into all women and all men. groups then after she gained everyone's. trust and really bad things began to. happen. and. um.

what's different in. in my case is that when I chose to leave. this like cult-like group. uh there. uh Jody tried to punish me. and she worked through BYU Honor Code. office. uh and legal measures to to try to hurt. me. and I I have. um the emails between my ex-wife and her.

planning out all this stuff talking. about what the real issues in our. marriage were and then them evolving. that into something drastically. different with allegations so it would. totally destroy your life and and how. that Evolution happened from what they. originally were like is it's just. astounding I had to come forward because. when I heard that they were doing the. same thing to those little kids that. they did to me to hide their crimes it. was totally predictable. and I I knew my records would just.

completely showed the world the truth so. how dangerous this lady really is and. and clients that are close to her that. that are probably not really good people. in the first place but that she enhances. their abilities under her. uh under her guidance to do incredibly. criminal things Adam claims that Jody. Hildebrandt conspired with his then wife. to accuse him of sexually abusing their. child I never had the courage.

to talk about this openly. because the damage was so bad after Jody. and my ex-wife got done. trying to make me look like a child. abuser and a sexual addict and a rapist. and everything else having been a victim. that came forward. to change the laws to protect children. and having the insecurities that victims. have the stigma and all that stuff and. Jody working on me to try to make me.

look like I was a predator. uh in her final stage when I refused to. pay all the money and refused to stay in. the group and was so uncomfortable with. it what they did to me the coordinated. attack to create the solution and all. the stuff I have all the documentation. and if these fine I mean I haven't I'm. ability coaching my ex-wife and fine. I I'll share that in this other. interview the exact words as she coaches.

are through how to make people think. that they're coming up with the idea of. themselves. uh when they're when she's trying to. contort people's minds into thinking. that there had been abuse and violence. and. when you start to see this evidence of. what the real issues were. what Jody sagenda was how she went about. it and the documentation for it. it is these people will be hung I mean.

the game's over and these little kids. you know that they're accusing of abuse. sexual abuse right now to hide their. crimes. that's just an old Mo and what ruby said. in court that day about one of her. children sexually abusing other children. and then people in the neighborhood. you're saying that's the same thing that. Jody tried to do to you. well not just to me to probably hundreds.

of people. and there's going to be so many victims. coming forward with the same story the. story that if you told it on your own by. yourself everyone would think you're. weird and creepy but when a hundred. people come forward and tell the exact. same story. and that's why Jody's trying to they're. trying to act sick and speed up the. hearing. is they don't want. this complicated thing to material to. materialize. and then show this incredible crime Adam.

Steed said he went to counseling. sessions with Jody Hildebrandt for six. months and then he stopped he described. a rigidity in hildebrandt's counseling. style for example Steed claims. Hildebrandt became upset if men looked. at something like the swimsuit issue of. Sports Illustrated likening it to. pornography once he tried to leave her. counseling session Steed said things got. ugly she was just contacting like she.

didn't want me to leave her therapy. group and she had my wife send a email. message to me of the terms so that the. marriage wouldn't end and included that. I had to go back to Jody I had to pay. for it was thousands of dollars a month. um that I couldn't go to any other. therapist I was trying to go to other. therapists because they were saying I. was an addict in denial and you know it. was just crazy Jody in her group she. said that if you had to spend time not. thinking about something just the fact.

that you had to not think about it meant. you were an addict I mean she brought. everybody in. and now she was saying I was mentally. unhealthy and I I couldn't choose for. myself because of how unhealthy I was I. couldn't choose to go to another. therapist this was this was my addiction. working to not receive the confrontation. that she had. and you know uh. she just uh. help y'all this is just so hard to talk.

about like I'm trying to give a. condensed quick version without sharing. all these dramatic files that are the. the complete evidence of who this lady. is and what she is and and but the short. version. um. she wouldn't let me leave therapy Adam. Steed says Jody Hildebrandt violated his. trust when she shared information about. his counseling sessions without his. permission documents we obtained from.

the state of Utah show hildebrandt's. license was suspended for a time in 2012. and that she admitted to discussing a. John Doe's clinical diagnosis without. his permission with clergy and two other. mental health therapists the documents. also say that Hildebrandt admitted to. doing this and that she also shared. information with administrators at the. John does University. Steed says he is the John Doe listed in. these documents currently Jody. hildebrandt's counseling license is.

listed as active Adam Steed says he. believes more people will come forward. with stories about Jody Hildebrandt I. just want to say that to any victims out. there that have had their lives. destroyed by Jody Hildebrandt or uh. you know any kind of any of this kind of. stuff I just want you to know that you. need to have courage and come forward. and talk about it. um you're not alone and it's super. traumatic but if you talk about it after.

a while the trauma will go away and you. will live in a much more beautiful life. for you and your family and your. children and for everybody in the future. and and I'm now actually pretty happy. other than just sharing this like. re-traumatized terrible dark chapter of. of of life that happened and the world. needs to know it because they are doing. Jody hildebrand's doing the same thing. right now with these kids that she did. to me that's it for this edition of Law.

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