5 Disturbing Details in Unsealed Ohio Dentist Double Murders Warrant

If you've been following the savage. killings of Spencer and Monique Teppi. out in Ohio, you know there has not been. a ton of information about the. investigation, about the evidence. However, there is now new warrant. paperwork that has been unsealed, and we. just learned new details about what. authorities may have been looking for. and possibly found as Monique's. ex-husband Michael McKee stands accused. of this brutal double homicide. Welcome. to Sidebar presented by Law & Crime.

I'm Jesse Weber. Hey, real quick. I got some really. exciting news that I want to share with. you, okay? So, we have spent so much. time together here at Law & Crime. You. know, obsessing over every wild twist. and late-night case, but we wanted to. find a way to bring you even closer to. the action. And that is why we are. finally launching Law & Crime Plus. This. is your new go-to spot for thousands of. hours of commercial-free episodes and. exclusive case files where you can dive. into the evidence yourself. We really. built this for the community of people.

who stay up late analyzing every detail. while waiting for a verdict. So, it's. just as much your space as it is ours. Go ahead, download the app, check out. the features, let us know what you. think. You can head on over to. lawandcrimeplus.com today to snag our. limited-time deal for just $3.99 a month. or $40.99 for the year. One of the. biggest questions we have had in the. Teppi murder case is what exactly is the. evidence. We know the victims, Spencer. Teppi, 37-year-old dentist, his wife,

39-year-old Monique Teppi, parents to two children. We know it was. a brutal crime. Authorities say they. were gunned down in cold blood on. December 30th inside their home in Ohio. This is in Wineland Park, the 1400 block. of North 4th Street. Authorities say. this happened at 3:52 a.m. Authorities. indicating that Spencer was shot seven. times, Monique nine. We are talking a. full magazine of bullets. and the couple's two young children were.

inside the home when this happened, but. thankfully they weren't physically. harmed. Now, the couple were reportedly declared. dead hours after the shooting at 10:11. a.m. Apparently, this came about after. calls came in, one about how presumably. Spencer was not showing up for work. There was a call about someone seeing a. body inside the house from outside the. home. And we know the defendant, authorities. say the accused killer is Monique's. ex-husband, 39-year-old vascular surgeon.

Michael McKee. They had been divorced. since 2017, nearly a decade. And we know. the accusations, authorities claim McKee. was living 7 hours away in Rockford, Illinois when he allegedly drove all the. way to the Teppy home in Ohio and shot. them point-blank. He is even accused of. using a silencer or a noise suppression. apparatus. He was arrested in Rockford. on January 10th, faces four counts of. aggravated murder and aggravated. burglary. He has pleaded not guilty, he's in the Franklin County Jail in Ohio.

right now, no bond. But what we didn't. have was a lot of the actual evidence, the concrete evidence in this case. But now we talk about the new. development. There is newly unsealed. warrant paperwork that has just provided. us more details that we want to go. through. And we want to talk about the. relevance, we want to talk about what. they may have found, what the defense. can do to fight back. And to be clear, as I go through this and I go through. the accusations, Michael McKee is innocent until proven. guilty, okay? He is not been convicted.

To discuss all this, I want to welcome. on Ohio prosecutor, former Deputy. Attorney General Mark Weaver, friend of. the show. Mark, always happy to see you, it's been a minute. I I have to ask you. about these new details. First, before. even get into it, to set the stage, when. we talk about a search warrant, and. reportedly under Ohio law, my. understanding is a search warrant can be. unsealed uh 90 days. So now we're. getting more information. According to. the uh Columbus Dispatch, after the. Teppys were found, police had to then go.

to a judge to sign off on the search. warrant, which happened, I believe, at. 11:36 a.m. So, relatively shortly after. the bodies were discovered. Is all that. standard? Why do they even need a. warrant? Do they say, "Hey, look, there's a crime. There's two dead. bodies. Why do we even need a warrant? We can immediately collect the. evidence." When a crime scene is secure. and there's not a particular rush. Now, obviously, trying to find the killers is. one kind of a rush. A lot of prosecutors want to make sure. they have a belt and suspenders.

approach. So, under the Fourth. Amendment, uh there was a requirement. for a search warrant. There are several. exceptions to the search warrant rule, but there's nothing better than having a. search warrant from the judge. So, when. there's time, we secure the scene, we. get a search warrant. Sometimes, we go. back for an additional search warrant if. the first warrant didn't cover some. things that we think it should have. covered. And by the way, just ta- taking. uh taking a step back, am I correct that. under Ohio law, the search warrant can.

be unsealed after 90 days? A- And why. that time period? And is this. problematic for prosecutors that this. information is getting out to the public. at this point before there's a trial? You know, you are correct. That's the. way it works. Um it's problematic in. that there's been so much pre-trial. publicity about this case. And there's. been uh not enough information to feed. the desires of public to know what. happened. Uh as more details come out, you could see the defense that I know. the defense attorney, Diane Menashe.

She's very good. Uh she doesn't have a. great case, so she's got to find a way. to uh protect her client. That could. include asking for change of venue. It. could have in- include any sort of. pre-trial publicity motions that might. limit the ability of the public to learn. more. I definitely want to talk about her. I. want to talk about what the defense. strategy here is, but I have to get into. the details of this affidavit. Okay? So, we have this affidavit from police that. was in support of the search warrant,

provides more information, right? It. shows why we needed. the warrant to look for evidence. And it. indicates that investigators collected. 29 pieces of evidence, which could. include items that were packed together, multiple swabs of potential blood and or. DNA evidence, and 15 sets of. fingerprints, and that there were more. than 400 photographs that were taken. I. want to take this piece by piece. So, Mark, when you look at this, let's first start.

here. Where did they get the blood, the. DNA, the fingerprints? They had to be at. specific relevant locations in the home, right? Sure, the goal is to find as much as you. can in the part of the house where you. think the the murders occurred. For. example, we're now pretty sure that. where the children were, there was never any crime happening. there. So, that's less of interest of. less of a focus of our interest, more. where the bodies were or where we think.

the intrusion was. In any typical house, there's DNA everywhere. Now that we have. touch DNA ability, everybody's house has. hundreds of different sets of touch DNA. in all sorts of places. Blood obviously. is a little different situation. Most of. us don't have blood in our house. But. crime scene investigators, particularly. in a heinous case like this, they want. to over find. They want to over stress. what they need to collect because we. don't know what's going to come up at. trial.

Um and what do you think could come from. that? What kind of testing do they do? Is it complicated by the fact that this. is in a home, right? You tell me. I mean, what kind of test. are conducted on this kind of evidence. and what do you think can come from it? Well, DNA analyst will tell us, first of. all, almost immediately they can say is. this male or female DNA and if they have. a sample of the suspect's DNA, they can. try to do a match. It's not like it is done on some TV.

shows though. You have to have a good. amount. I just recently prosecuted a. child rape case. and one of the indicators in that case. was we could tell that the DNA was from. a male, but we couldn't tell what male. it was from. So, a lot of this has to. depend on the quality of the sample and. how much of the sample was taken. Yeah, and if they find like at least one. fingerprint. of Mr. McKay. in that home, is that game over or.

again, you know, I'm going to talk about. this a little bit later, but there was. an allegation that he had been at that. home before, right? I think December. 6th. If they find a fingerprint there, is that the end of the game for him? It's certainly the beginning of the end. of the game. There's no reason for him. to be in the house in the private. sections of the house, even if he had. been there previously. If his. fingerprint is near the bodies in one of. the bedrooms, that's there's they're going to have to. come up with a theory for that. More. typically, they're going to push to. take, you know, to try to make a deal in some.

case and try to reduce the charges, get. some sort of outcome because fighting. this at trial will be very difficult. From what we've heard so far about the. evidence, it is beginning to amass not. just one piece of evidence, but several. key inculpatory. pieces of evidence. Why 400 photographs? Why were 400 photographs taken? And how does that help the prosecution? How does that help the investigation? Different crime scene technicians do. this differently and so some of them.

will, you know, take example, let's say. there's a cup near a body. You take it. from every different angle. You take the. photo from above, you take it from the. side where the handle is, you take it. from the other side, you take where it's. resting. So, that's four images just to. capture one cup. You never know at trial. what some defense lawyer might suggest. to the jury and say, "Why didn't they. take this one angle of the cup? What are. they doing there?" Jurors can get.

suspicious when defense lawyers, you. know, scatter seeds like that. Say seeds. of doubt. So, crime scene investigators, depending on their outlook, will often. go over the top with what's necessary, rather than later be accused of. willingly not taking some image. Mhm. When they talk about items packed. together, what do they mean? Well, that could be anything. That could. be, for example, a box that has several. items in it. It could be a stack of. paper that were together, something. that's clipped together.

That's a general description. It's hard. to say, but for example, if the murderer. interacted with that something packed. together, jurors are going to want to. know was it originally packed together? Did the murderer put it together? Were. these items elsewhere previous to the uh. the the crimes occurring? Once again, the more photos and images you have, then as a prosecutor, I can go through. and decide which of these images I'm. going to admit into evidence. It won't. be all of them. It'll be the ones that.

really help tell the story. I want to also highlight something else. So, according to 10 WBNS, the warrant. indicates that authorities were also. looking for firearms, shell casings, and. home security footage. Talk to us about. that. Well, we all know now that home security. footage is ubiquitous, whether it's uh. doorbell cameras or whether it's people. who put up cameras outside their house. or some cases inside their house. So, that footage is important not just from. the day of the crime, but from days.

previous to the crime to see if anybody. was scouting or or staking out the house. to find out how to get in there. With. respect to the other things they're. finding, obviously we want to know about. any guns or any casings both in the home. of the McKee, the suspect, as well as. the home where the crime occurred. Why is there not more information in. this. this warrant? I have more pieces I want. to get into, but why is there not more. information, more details about this? I. mentioned at the top there there's. seems to be a lack of understanding all.

the evidence they have against him. I'll. talk about more of the evidence in a. minute, but why is there not more. details of this investigation in the. affidavit, as far as we could see? We. didn't get a copy of the actual one, we're looking at reporting based on it. Why is that the case? Well, police get a sense for which. judges what how much information in the. search warrant affidavit before the. judge will sign the search warrant. Also, in a high-profile case, some judges don't need to know a lot. They know there's a problem, they know.

there's going to be a lot of scrutiny on. them, and they're just quick to sign. They don't want to be criticized for not. having issued a search warrant. So, it's. a officer-by-officer determination, it's. a crime-by-crime determination, and a. judge-by-judge determination. Now, also according to the Columbus. Dispatch, this is kind of all the. material that has been sent over by. prosecutors to Mr. McKee's attorney, Diane Menashe. You mentioned her before. We've interviewed before. We covered. her, by the way, in a previous sidebar.

in light of her coming onto this case. We talked about her previous cases, her. defense strategy, her win record in. high-profile criminal cases. She's an. excellent attorney. I encourage. everybody to check that episode out if. you want to learn a little bit more. But. here, according to the Dispatch, this is. what was apparently sent over to her. So, multiple search warrants from Ohio. and Illinois, firearms experts reports, comparison images and evidence images, more than 4,000 media items including. photo and video evidence, crime scene.

diagrams and scans, more than 250 video. files of surveillance related footage. from the Rockford Hospital where McKean. had worked. And by the way, we the. public can't see all this evidence at. this point in time, but I do want to. talk about it. Mark, search warrants. Is. Diane Menashe going to go through them. and see if they're defective, if they're. beyond the scope, if they were supported. by false information? Talk to us about. how a defense attorney attacks a search. warrant, and if it's successful, what.

should happen? Well, there will be a lot of pre-trial. motions filed because particularly when. there's a significant amount of. evidence, the job of a defense attorney. is to try to find something wrong in the. process, to try to convince a judge that. law enforcement or the prosecutors have. somehow cut a corner, broken a rule, done something they shouldn't have done. We saw this most recently and most. infamously in the Alec Baldwin case. Everybody knows Alec Baldwin shot and.

killed that woman. There's no doubt. about that, but the case was dismissed. not because he wasn't guilty, but. because there was allegedly a a problem. with how the prosecution had handled the. case and the judge dismissed it. So, particularly in those cases where the. evidence is strong, defense lawyers. focus a lot in the pre-trial motion. practice on mistakes made. Now, you. talked about the amount of evidence that. was given over to the defense. A cynic. would say, "That's the strategy of.

here's the haystack, go find your. needle.". Someone else might say, "Well, no, I. don't want to be accused of a Brady. violation, Brady versus Maryland, the US. Supreme Court case that said you have to. give over exculpatory evidence as a. prosecutor." So, someone else might say, "No, I'm going to give you everything. We're going to play our cards open and. up on the table. Either way, it's a ton. of work and hundreds and thousands of. man-hours will be spent reviewing this. evidence and preparing this defense. I.

think the firearms expert reports are. very interesting because I'm curious. what we can expect there because my. understanding is, okay, authorities. allegedly recovered a weapon from. McKee's home out in Illinois that they. believe is linked to the Tappy killings. that this is based on preliminary. ballistic testing. So, we're talking. potentially the murder weapon, right? Um what is that testing? What is that. testing? I will tell you let me just add. to our list. According to Columbus. Columbus Division of.

uh Police Chief Elaine Bryant, they use. national ballistics data through the. National Integrated Ballistic. Information Network or NIBIN. So, what exactly would these reports. say? What is preliminary testing? Well, many um rounds, which is what we. call the piece of lead that's inside a. a bullet. Many rounds and cartridges. have their own signature that's unique. to the gun that goes through them. They're not registered. Not not every. bullet gets has a serial number on it,

for example, but depending on the kind. of gun it comes out of, it might leave a. signature as it goes through the barrel. based on the unique metal factors of the. inside of that barrel. Having said that, we know this in the Charlie Kirk case. right now where there's a discussion. about whether or not the. the bullet can be matched to the rifle. I worked on a case years ago, officer-involved shooting, where several officers had to fire their. weapons at the same moment. at a suspect who was pointing a gun.

And when we took those bullets to get. analyzed, they were all Glocks in this. instance. The the expert told us that. the nature of these guns, you couldn't. tell which gun fired which bullet. So, sometimes we know. we can do a direct match. Sometimes we. can't because of the nature of the. inside of the barrel and the way that. the the firearm. ejects the bullet. And it could be if a case only rested on. that and you can strike, you know, you. can raise a little bit reasonable doubt.

in terms of the murder weapon in terms. of who fired it or in terms of, you. know, if it's the actual weapon. That. could be, you know, end a case. But when you couple that with the other. evidence in this case, it's just a piece. of the puzzle, right? And I want to talk. about that a little more because. when I'm saying the 250 video files of. surveillance related footage from the. Rockford hospital where McKee worked was. sent over to Diane Menashe. Before I. even get into the other evidence and. I'll I'll I'll get into that cell phone. and and the car. I What are What are.

they looking for there? Why Why is that. relevant to the case where he worked? Trying to build a pattern of where the. defendant was in the days and weeks. before the crime, when he arrived, by. what direction, and then looking to see. if that pattern has changed. You also. might want to see what he's wearing. Uh. famously from the O.J. Simpson case, the. civil case, um the kind of shoes that he used to. commit that murder were found in a photo. of him at a charitable event years. earlier, a very unusual set of shoes.

that wasn't commonly sold. So, by. looking at a photo of him at a charity. event. months or years before the murder, uh investigators for the civil attorneys. were able to identify that set of shoes. as the one that was used by the murderer. the night of the murder. So, similarly, you're looking for patterns, um times, clothes, things he may or may or may not. carry with him. You never know what. could be a clue both for the defense and. for the prosecution. And this is where I want to get into the.

other evidence, okay? Cuz there is some. more evidence that we have that we've at. least learned over the course of this. story. For instance, the Columbus. Dispatch reports that McKee's cell phone. showed no activity for 17 hours or. allegedly showed no activity for 17. hours and it was only picked up again. when someone would be coming back to. Rockford. And they claim that that data. shows McKee was near the Teppy home. including for several hours on December. 6th, but you have This is when the.

couple was out of town. NBC even. reporting there was security video. showing him going into the home. Mark, talk to me about that. Yeah, this is one of the most troubling. things for the defense. There's no good. reason for him to be three states east. at the home of his ex-wife. Uh there he. can be up to no good. And now someone. might say, "Well, it's not illegal to do. that." We're not suggesting it's illegal. to do that. We're suggesting it. indicates you still have a very. dangerous interest in your ex-wife and.

her new husband. Anybody with a lick of sense knows that. your cellphone tracks you where you go. And as a result, anybody with a lick of. sense who wants to not be tracked will. somehow disable their their cellphone. They'll turn it off. They'll remove the. battery. They'll do something that would. stop any signal from being put out to a. cell tower. And so, that's what likely. what happened here. Uh if he if he is. prepared Think about this. This is not a. crime of passion. A crime of passion is.

when you come upon something and you act. impulsively. When you when you live in. Illinois and your ex-wife is in uh in. Ohio, the just the time it takes to. drive there gives you plenty of time for. what the law calls prior calculation and. design. And it's part of a criminal's. prior calculation and design, they think. about how can I avoid detection. Shutting down my cellphone, putting it. in a special bag where the signal. doesn't come out. Whichever way he. disabled it, that's likely what.

happened. It's similar to Kohberger when. they said that he turned his phone off. at the key time of the killings, but at. least he had some sort of. I don't know. I don't think it was going. to work, but he was like, "Oh, he went. to school relatively nearby. He might. drive in that area." If they can. establish through cell phone data or. through surveillance that Mckee is. there, it doesn't make sense. That's I. think going to be quite problematic for. Diab and Nasho. Though, I wonder, can. you strike at the actual data? Is that. ever effective? You say, "Hey, this is.

not You can't look at the cell phone. data. It's wonky. Can't look at the. surveillance data. It's wonky." Does. that work? It typically does not work by by matter. of suppression. cuz you'd have to prove a Fourth. Amendment violation at a suppression. hearing. More typically, what they'll do. is they'll try to attack the foundation. or the authenticity of it. At trial, a. prosecutor has the burden of submitting. evidence to the judge and saying, "Judge, here's the foundation for the. evidence. Here's the authentication for.

this evidence. Please admit it into. uh the case so that the jury can. consider it." That's the part where the. defense will attack it. Somehow say. there's not a proper foundation. It's. not properly authenticated. They're. going to try to keep it from getting in. either at a pretrial motion in what's. called a motion in limine to limit. evidence into the trial or during trial. when they put the person on the stand. who collected the evidence and by way of. cross-examination and impeachment of the. process of assembling that cell phone.

information. And now I got to go to this other key. piece of evidence. Uh this is a big one. So, authorities say. they clocked the car near the Teppys'. home before the killings. And then this. car allegedly left after the killings. Then it was seen on camera at least one. other time in that area. And they. reportedly traced it back to Mckee and. back to Rockford. And they claim that. Mckee allegedly used at least two. license plates on this silver SUV.

including one stolen Ohio plate and an. Arizona plate. And when they apparently. found the car, it reportedly had the. Arizona plate and there was evidence. that a sticker had been {quote} hastily. removed. Mark A, how do they know this? What evidence would be used at trial to. support this? And B, how problematic is. that for the defense? Yeah, this might be one of the strongest. pieces of evidence I've seen in this. case. In 49 states including Ohio, there.

are Flock cameras. That's the name of. the company that tracks license plates. and allows uh. police officers to find. stolen cars, people who have a warrant. for them, even suspended tags. And so, as we all. drive around uh streets and in most. states, uh these cameras capture our. license plate. And they're actually. programmed to look specifically at. license plates and checking them against. outstanding warrants. That's likely. where it came from. It's entirely.

possible it also came from security cam. from nearby homes as well. But the Flock. cameras are ubiquitous around big cities. like Columbus. So, you're going to. you're going to hit them several times. as you traverse through the city. Again, somebody who's smart knows this. You. can't be a doctor and not be smart, right? So, somebody who's smart knows. this and as a result he's been taking. steps to try to evade that it's him. Stealing a license plate is obvious one. None of us secures our license plate. All you need is a screwdriver to remove. it. And then tearing off stickers that.

might indicate, you know, what county. it's from for example. You know, Ohio, every license plate has a sticker that. indicates what county it's from. That. might be something he did as well. But. Mark, there's so much we don't know in. this case. I'll give you an example. They say that these killings happened at. 3:52 a.m. How do authorities know that? Well, some of that could be. a doctor could not get you a an autopsy. doctor or forensic uh uh.

uh specialist could not get you to the. exact moment. But, other devices. electronic and otherwise in the house. that may have been involved uh might do. that. Certainly, people those of us who. wear smartwatches know that for example, my smartwatch is constantly monitoring. my heart rate. And uh things that are. happening in my body whether I'm you. know being healthy or not. So, that is. creates a whole new set of evidence that. we didn't have as recently as 15 years. ago that can tell us what's going on in.

a person's body based on the watch. they're wearing or other device. Yep, that's a good point. Um but again, there's just so much we don't have that. I I I would like a clear explanation. But again, that's the purpose of a. trial. Motive hasn't been laid out, right? Not necessarily. And And to be. clear, it doesn't necessarily even have. to be shown or be proven. It's not an. element of the charges. It does help to. fill in the pieces. It does help to tell. the story for a jury. And one of the. things that's come up and NBC has. highlighted this. They reported it. That.

there is this probable cause affidavit. that indicates that a person told. authorities that McKee had allegedly. threatened Monique saying he could quote. kill her at any time and would find her. and buy the house right next to her. And. that there was also an alleged statement. that she will always be his wife. And. allegedly And allegedly Monique told the. witness about this. Um I I don't know if. they're hearsay issues here. But Mark, it does Yeah, but first of all, you tell. me if that would be like a hearsay. issue. But also,

um is this the kind of evidence that. would help? I mean, is this the kind of. evidence that would establish how. somebody which it makes this case so. bizarre, divorced for so many years out. of nowhere, just comes up and. allegedly kills her and her husband? Let's Let's respond to your last. question. This is the kind of evidence. that would help the jury. If we can get. it in, I'll address the hearsay question. in a moment. We as you had mentioned, we. don't have to prove a motive, but juries.

are desperate for a motive, particularly. in a case with such serious penalties as. this. So, jurors would like to have a. theory. It gives them great comfort to. know that haha, I can see why he would. have done this. That means probably he. did it. So, if this comes in, it's. powerful powerful motive evidence, even. though it's not required to be shown. Now, with respect to hearsay, hearsay is. an out-of-court statement offered to. prove its own truth. You put John on the. stand. If John says Mrs. Teppy told me.

this once, that's hearsay. That is. there's no exception to the hearsay rule. for that. But if. if John gets on and says, "No, no, the. defendant told me once." That is an. exception to the hearsay rule. That's. not hearsay what the defendant has said, even though it's an out-of-court. statement offered to prove its own. truth. There's a specific exclusion for. for the exception rule that allows that. to come in. So, it's going to depend on.

who is the person saying this. statement and where that person heard it. from. Do you think this is relevant, cuz we. haven't had a chance to talk about it, that there was reporting that 3 months. before the shootings McKee was. apparently being sued for medical. malpractice. People magazine saying a. friend of Monique said he thought she. could not live without him, that she. needed him. So, for her to thrive uh so, for her to thrive in her new marriage, that just destroyed his fragile little. ego. I mean, this is somebody's opinion,

but how much of what's going on in. McKee's life or was allegedly happening. in McKee's life is going to play a role. in this trial? There's an evidence rule that judges. have to consider that says that evidence. that is more prejudicial than probative. has to be excluded. Prejudicial means. um it's going to inflame the passions of. the jurors. Probative means it gives the. jury's insight into the crime. And so. there's a balancing test. It's a very. common exception you see at trial. Judge, that's more prejudicial than.

probative. That's going to mislead the. jury. It's going to get them down a path. that's not probative as to what the. elements of this case are. So I I would be. uh surprised if the judge would not be. asked to rule on that by defense. counsel. So I think that would come up. if that evidence were offered. Either at pre-trial, Diane Menashe and. her team would seek to exclude that. testimony or during the trial itself. The uh closed-door status conference is. being held on April 13th where I imagine.

they are just going to try to maybe set. future dates for I don't know motions or. hearings. Um so we'll see what happens, but again, it's closed-door. We're not going to get. a ton of information. But I will just. end on this point. Look, it it's a very. high-profile case. There are a lot of. people invested in this. Their deaths have shaken that community, their friends, their family. It is. awful. To just give you a sense about. this, NBC reported that the Teppys'. relatives had said that this couple. shared a quote beautiful, strong, and.

deeply happy relationship, that the. family is heartbroken. Quote, "While no. outcome can ever undo this loss, our. family is committed to seeing this. tragedy fully and fairly brought to. justice and to honoring Spencer and. Monique by protecting the future of the. children they love so deeply." So we. talk a lot about the evidence, but. that's the human point of it. Mark. Weaver, thanks for taking the time. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Jesse. And that's all we have for you right now. here on Sidebar, everybody. Thank you so.

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