17 'High-Profile' Elites Punished for Epstein Ties
The fallout from the Epstein files for. high-profile politicians, business. leaders, royalty, the elites has been. quite intense. Resignations, ridicule, even criminal investigations. So, it's. time to break down who is now facing. some serious heat. Welcome to Sidebar, presented by Law & Crime. >> [music]. >> I'm Jesse Weber. Okay, before we go any further, if. you're putting things out on social. media, if you're into content creation, you might be wondering how do we get so. many of our clips out there so quickly? We use something called Opus Clip, okay?
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ideas and edit like a pro. So, go to. opus.pro/sidebar. to get a free week and then 50% off. One. thing is for sure, when it comes to the. Epstein files, there is fallout. After. the release of millions and millions of. pages of materials and videos and. photographs, people have come under a. lot of fire, and their careers, their. reputations, they are taking a hit. And. you even see criminal investigations. happening right now. And that's. interesting to think about, right? Because there have always been calls for.
accountability, calls for justice, calls. for transparency. And you have to think. that if there hadn't been calls to. release the files and to keep this in. the public spotlight, where you just had. the DOJ and FBI's memo from last summer, where it basically said there's no. client list, there's no other third. parties, there's nothing really else. there, would we even see what's. happening right now? And I'm not. justifying it. We'll talk about it at. the end whether or not it's justified. Was that going to be the end of the. story? Clearly not. So, I want to. examine the fallout from the Epstein.
saga right now. I'm going to start with. the criminal one. You got Norway's. former Prime Minister, Thorbjørn. Jagland. He has been charged with. aggravated corruption after authorities. looked into his connection to Jeffrey. Epstein, the deceased financier. You. see, according to the New York Times, this is serious. He could face up to 10. years in prison. And investigators say. they are probing, quote, whether gifts, travel, and loans were received in. connection with his position. And he had. served as Prime Minister from 1996 to. 1997, Foreign Minister and Secretary.
General of the Council of Europe at one. point. So, investigators, they even. searched his home, two other properties. I mean, this is big. Again, came out. because of the release of these files. Now, he has denied all wrongdoing, but. this is the first time in Norway since. the end of World War II that a former. Prime Minister has faced criminal. charges. So, what do the files say? Okay, you got June 2012. Jagland writes. to Epstein, "Hi Jeffrey, I tried to call. you the other day, knowing that you were. in Paris. I would have loved to see you. Thera and I spoke about you when we were.
in Luxembourg, agreeing that you are a. fabulous person, easy, and at the same. time demanding to be together with. Thorbjørn." By the way, that reference. was to uh Thera Rod Larsen. I might be. mispronouncing the name, former. Norwegian politician. He's been accused. of being uh Epstein associate as well. And I want you to remember something as. we're going through these communications. like 2012. This is after Jeffrey. Epstein's conviction on Florida state. charges of soliciting a minor for. prostitution. That is what elevates.
that. That is why you are seeing a lot. of this fallout is that you were in. communication with somebody who pled. guilty to that. And speaking of which, what about this one from 2012? "Hi. Jeffrey, no, I haven't called yet. I. have been in Tirana, Albania. Extraordinary girls. 2013. By the way, Han and I have talked about coming back. to somewhere in the Caribbean with my. two sons during Easter, I think it's. Easter, to celebrate 60th birthday. I. can't keep it going only with young.
women, as you know. September 14th, 2018. So, this is the year before. Jeffrey Epstein was ultimately arrested. on child sex trafficking charges, the. federal charges. You have an email from. Epstein's assistant to Yaglon. Subject: Jeffrey Epstein Apartments 2G and 10B. September 22nd to the 29th. Hello. Yaglon, I wanted to reconfirm your. apartment stay September 22nd to the. 29th. You will have two apartments, 2G. and 10B. We will have a welcome letter. for you with the doorman upon your.
arrival. Please do confirm back and let. me know if there's anything else we can. do. There's an email showing that. Yaglon's wife and adult children. seemingly stayed in Palm Beach, Florida. in 2014 and it was paid for with. Epstein's credit card. So, you can see. why they're looking at what was he. receiving, what was he giving. I mean, Yaglon at one point apparently stayed at. Epstein's homes in New York and Miami, visited his private island in the. Caribbean. This is apparently according. to the emails. And in the email chain. between you have a few people here, the.
subject says, "Yaglon hotel rooms." It. says things like, "All I know is JE. wants to bring to the island Torbjörn. Yaglon, his three kids and girlfriend to. PB and then on to the island. If we can. use his personal card, call me and I. will give you the info, I have it." Now, the New York Times reports that Epstein. would introduce Yaglon to his. associates, including Kathryn Ruemmler, the former White House Counsel under. President Barack Obama, who we're going. to talk about a little bit more in a. minute. And in exchange, he allegedly. wanted Yaglon to get him a meeting with. Russian President Vladimir Putin. So,
there's a lot of notable exchanges, including where Epstein wrote this to. Yaglon, "I think you might suggest to. Putin that Lavrov can get insight on. talking to me." So, you can see again. why this investigation is happening. Moving on, let's talk about Thomas. Pritzker, who served as the chairman of. Hyatt Hotels, held that position for 20. years. Problem for him? His. communication with Epstein, again, after. Epstein's conviction. Got this one from. Pritzker to Epstein. "I'm in a remote. valley of Afghanistan. It's my birthday. wish with boys with toys. Spend time.
with Petraeus, seeming with General. Petraeus, yesterday, and he loaned me a. chopper, actually two, with one as. backup." April 2018. So, this is the. year, again, before Epstein's arrest on. federal child sex trafficking charges, all the way up until then. You have an. Epstein associate, his alleged. girlfriend, we've talked about her. before, Karrina Shuliak, who he. apparently, by the way, Epstein wanted. to leave the mass of his fortune and his. properties to upon his death, wrote to. Pritzker, "Going to try to find a new. girlfriend for Jeffrey." Pritzker. apparently writes back with a smiley.
face, "May the force be with you." July. 2015. Epstein to Pritzker, "Would you. find it amusing to have Dalai Lama meet. Woody Allen for lunch on Saturday? Could. be a memorable event." Pritzker writes. back, "Can't do it. Will explain.". Pritzker resigned as Hyatt executive. chairman, and he released a statement. saying, "Good stewardship also means. protecting Hyatt, particularly in the. context of my association with Jeffrey. Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, which I. deeply regret. I exercised terrible. judgment in maintaining contact with.
them, and there is no excuse for failing. to distance myself sooner." Now, again, just something I have to put in. What. people's knowledge of what Epstein and. Maxwell were up to, not on its face. entirely clear, but the association, again, after Epstein's conviction, and. particularly going right up until when. he was arrested again, that is what's. concerning, okay? And I'm not saying. that everything we're going through. would justify a further investigation or. justify criminal charges, but you'll be.
the ones to decide whether or not this. punishment we're seeing, these. resignations, these career-torpedoing. emails and communications, is it. justified? You'll be the judge of that. Got to talk about Sultan Ahmed bin. Sulayem, okay? Resigned as CEO of DP. World. This is Dubai's largest port. operator. Doesn't help when you have. this email, June 2013, from Epstein to. bin Sulayem, "All I know for sure is. that you are one of my most trusted. friends in every sense of the word. You. have never let me down, not once, not.
half of once, and I greatly appreciate. the time we spend together." This was. the response, "Thank you, my friend. I. am off to sample a fresh 100% female. Russian at my yacht." Epstein responds, "100% Russian or 100% female? Question, if it were once a man and now has" and. describes women's private parts, "what. percentage is it?" And bin Sulayem. responds, "100% female." Yeah, the. messages between the two discuss women,
girls, sexually explicit content, business dealings, for sure, meetings. with world leaders, yeah. And then the. torture video. "Where are you? Are you. okay? I loved the torture video.". Epstein apparently sent that message in. April 2009 to a redacted name, but then. you had Representative Thomas Massie, who's been all over this, revealed that. this was sent to Assaultem. And then you. had a Deputy AG, Deputy Attorney General. Todd Blanche, who seemed to indicate. that it was linked to bin Sulayem. This. is according to CNN. No idea what that.
torture video is. There is a. correspondence also where bin Sulayem. shared links to pornography sites with. Epstein during a family trip to the US. with his wife and kids. There's this. one, September 30th, 2015, an email from. bin Sulayem to Epstein, "This girl is. Russian. Father Cypriot. Mom, I met her. 2 years ago. She goes to the American. University in Dubai. She got engaged, but now she back with me. The best sex I. ever had. Amazing body." Hmm. This one. caught eyeballs. "Dear Petra, attached.
is passport copy of redacted. She works. as the personal masseuse at the private. spa of our friend Jeffrey Epstein. I. would appreciate if you can arrange for. her to work as a trainee at Rixos. Antalya Spa so she gains better. experiences. Yours Sultan bin Sulayem. The allegation. being that he helped train Epstein's. masseuse. Look, anytime you hear Epstein. and massages, you got to stop for a. moment considering he was accused of. using massages as a way to not only.
begin the abuse of girls, but it was a. conduit to escalate the abuse. I. mentioned Katherine Rumbler, okay? Chief. legal officer and general counsel at. Goldman Sachs. Guess what? She resigned. Yeah, these two are apparently close. According to the Wall Street Journal, Epstein called her when he was arrested. in 2019. She once thanked Epstein after. receiving luxury gifts from him calling. him Uncle Jeffrey. See, the issue there. is she seemed to indicate that her. relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was. strictly professional. Let's see what.
the files seem to show. "I'm totally. tricked out by Uncle Jeffrey today. Jeffrey boots, handbag, and watch.". February 2016, Epstein to Rumbler, "We. all set for a day of joy?" Rumbler to. Epstein, "Best massage ever, but not. your kind of massage." Epstein writes. back, "Shame." May 2015, Epstein writes, "If redacted continues to claim that she. had sex with people for money, why is. that not prostitution and what I pled. guilty to? Every massage person got paid.
money. No girl came to the house to. learn math. Does sex for money change. the equation? There was a massage person. per day. Some turned out to be younger. than others. Some as old as 60. I'll. explain when I see you." Rumbler seems. to respond, "I think the point is that. if she was underage, she could not. legally consent to engaging in. prostitution." They would also discuss. politics and Donald Trump, her even. calling Trump at one point truly stupid. There's this interesting email in 2016. regarding Bill Clinton where Epstein. writes, "My memory is a friend killer. I.
I talking to Clinton when he swore with. wholehearted conviction to me that he. had done something he had forgotten that. he also swore the exact opposite to me. only weeks before. Speaking of Clinton. by the way, there's this one where. Epstein writes, "Do you think Bill. Clinton would like to join you, me, Ehud, and Steve? Could be very funny, all off the record." Rumler responds, "While he might like to, his lawyer. would advise him against it." Rumler. told the Wall Street Journal, "As I have. said, I regret ever knowing him and I. have enormous sympathy for the victims. of Epstein's crimes." And she also added.
through a representative in another. statement, "I had no knowledge of any. ongoing criminal conduct on his part and. I did not know him as the monster he has. been revealed to be." What about Casey. Wasserman, founder, chairman, CEO of. Wasserman Talent Agency, major agency. represents all kinds of athletes, performers, musicians, chairman by the. way of the Los Angeles 2028 Olympics, the Paralympic Games. So, he began. selling his company in the wake of the. Epstein files and he lost clients like. singer Chapel Roan and soccer star Abby. Wambach. The LA mayor now saying he.
should step down from the 2028 Olympic. Games. See, the issue with him is that I. think the argument was it seemed at one. point the extent of his connection was a. humanitarian trip that he took with. Epstein and Bill Clinton and Maxwell, but there was more that came out. Really. these kind of arguably flirty and. suggestive messages in emails with. Ghislaine Maxwell 20 years ago. Yes, years before she was ultimately. convicted of being a child sex. trafficker, but still toxic. Like this. one from back in 2003 when he was.
reportedly married with a family writing. Maxwell, "I think of you all the time. So, what do I have to do to see you in a. tight leather outfit? I am in New York. tonight, you're not. What am I to do?". How about this one from Wasserman to. Maxwell, "I will be in New York City for. 4 days starting April 22nd. Can we book. that massage now?" Maxwell at one point. responds, "Um all that rubbing, are you. sure you can take it? The thought. frankly is leaving me a little. breathless. There are a spots that. apparently drive a wild. I suppose I. could practice them on you and you could.
let me know if they work or not. In a. memo to his employees, Mr. Wasserman. wrote that he only had limited. interactions with Maxwell and Epstein, but that he had become a distraction, adding it was years before their. criminal conduct came to light and in. its entirety consisted of one. humanitarian trip to Africa and a. handful of emails that I deeply regret. sending. The pain experienced by the. victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine. Maxwell is unimaginable and I'm glad, as. I'm sure you all are, that those who. helped them commit their crimes are. rightly being held accountable. So, that.
becomes one. It's interesting where you. think about should he have had to step. down considering this was before the. convictions, before all this came to. light. Peter Mandelson, UK Ambassador to. the United States. So, Mandelson was. fired by UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer. This is back in September and he. resigned from the Labour Party a few. weeks ago because of his Epstein. connection. Kind of give you an idea, you have this exchange from 2009. allegedly surrounds Epstein's release. from prison after serving 13 of his. 18-month sentence on what I mentioned. before, the charges of solicitation of.
prostitution, solicitation of. prostitution of a minor. So, here's how. that went. So, this is from Jeffrey. Epstein, okay? July 22nd, 2009. He. writes, "Free and home." So, you have. this response, "How shall we celebrate?". Again, from allegedly Peter Mandelson. Jeffrey Epstein seems to respond with. grace and modesty. Those are the names. of two strippers. This is a response. allegedly from Mandelson, "How is. freedom feeling?" Epstein responds, "She. feels fresh, firm, and creamy.".
And Mandelson allegedly writes to. Jeffrey Epstein, "Naughty boy.". But, also you now have the Metropolitan. Police who have launched an. investigation into Mandelson for. allegedly providing Epstein with. market-sensitive information when he was. acting as business secretary in the. British government back in 2009. Yeah, the Guardian reporting that two of his. properties have been searched. So, for. example, you have this email from June. 2009 where Mandelson appears to write to. Epstein interesting note that's gone to. the PM, meaning the Prime Minister. So,
appears to be a note sent to the Prime. Minister about business issues and plan. of action including the sale of assets. And Epstein writes back, "What sellable. assets?" Or how about this one where. Mandelson allegedly gave Epstein a. heads-up that a 500 billion euro bailout. had been agreed to tackle the Eurozone. crisis. You can see the issue. Last. year, Mandelson said to the Financial. Times, "I regret ever meeting him or. being introduced to him by his partner. Ghislaine Maxwell. I regret even more. the hurt he caused to many young women.". And there's so much more, by the way.
Brad Karp resigned as chairman of. mega-house law firm Paul, Weiss got this. 2015 email where he thanked Epstein for. a once-in-a-lifetime evening. Or you. have this correspondence where he. connected his son David to Jeffrey. Epstein to try to help David get a job. on a Woody Allen film in 2016. What. about Professor David Gelernter? Was. banned from teaching classes at Yale. University, is now being investigated by. the university. Stuff like this when. Gelernter recommended a woman for a. project to Epstein in 2011. "I have a.
perfect editor in mind. Yale senior. worked at Vogue last summer, runs her. own campus mag, art major, completely. connected, very small, good-looking. blonde." Mona Juul, Norwegian. ambassador, seemed to resign due to her. connection to Epstein particularly being. written into his will at one point. Miroslav Lajčák, national security. adviser to the Prime Minister of. Slovakia, former president of the UN. General Assembly, resigned after. messages came out with him and Epstein. David Ross, chair of New York School of. Visual Arts, resigned. He even allegedly.
called Epstein incredible after there. was a suggestion of there being an. exhibit featuring minor boys. Joanna. Rubenstein, chair of Sweden for the UN. refugee agency, she announced her. resignation on February 2nd after there. were documents seemingly showed that she. had this 2012 family visit to Epstein's. private island. Larry Summers, we've. talked about him before, stepping away. from his teaching duties at Harvard and. acting as a board member at OpenAI. It. wasn't just that he was named backup. executor of an earlier version of. Epstein's will. No, it appears that.
Summers reportedly visited Jeffrey. Epstein's island. There were flight. records as part of a lawsuit that. revealed that he had traveled on. Epstein's plane multiple times. You see. all these communications between the. men, like where Summers says, "I don't. want to be in a gift-giving competition. while being the friend without. benefits." Or when Summers wrote, "I. said, 'What are you up to?' She said, 'I'm busy.' I said, 'Awfully coy you. are.'" Epstein responds, "She's smart, making you pay for past errors. Ignore. the 'Daddy, I'm going to go out with the. motorcycle guy.' You reacted well.
Annoyed shows caring. No whining showed. strength." So, seemingly getting. relationship or dating advice or. whatever you call it from Epstein. He. came out with a statement, "I'm deeply. ashamed of my actions. I recognize the. pain they have caused. I take full. responsibility for my misguided decision. to continue communicating with Mr. Epstein." Peter Attia, the anti-aging. influencer, recently appointed. contributor at CBS News, was mentioned. almost 2,000 times in the Epstein files. Attia wrote in one email to Epstein in. February of 2016 that a woman's private.
parts were low-carb, adding, "Still. waiting results on gluten content, though." You have an email from June 24, 2015 with the subject line, "Got a fresh. shipment." Where Attia seemingly writes, "The biggest problem with becoming. friends with you, the life you lead is. so outrageous, and yet I can't tell a. soul." Now, Attia came out and said, "Reading that exchange now is very. embarrassing, and I will not defend it. I'm ashamed of myself for everything. about this. At the time, I understood. this exchange as juvenile, not a. reference to anything dark or harmful.". He added that he was never on Epstein's.
plane, never on his island, never. present in any sex parties. But Attia. did step down from his role as the chief. science officer at the snack bar company. David Protein. And then there was a 60. Minutes segment that he was featured on. that was reportedly pulled. He. reportedly has been retained by CBS. though. What about the NFL investigating. Steve Tisch, chairman, co-owner of the. New York Giants, named over 400 times in. the Epstein files? Cuz you have messages. like this where Tisch seemingly wrote to. Epstein that he was quote curious to. know about a woman, asked Epstein, "Is.
she a pro or civilian?" Epstein actually. replied that he doesn't like records of. these conversations. Tisch apparently. asked Epstein in another email about a. different woman, "Is she fun?" With. Epstein replying, "She is a civilian, but Russian and rarely tells the full. truth, but fun." This one's pretty. striking regarding Tisch meeting up with. a woman. Epstein writes to him, "You did. very well. She's a little freaked by the. age difference, but go slow.". Now, in a January statement to ESPN, Tisch said, "We had a brief association. where we exchanged emails about adult.
women. In addition, we discussed movies, philanthropy, and investments. I did not. take him up on any of his invitations. and never went to his island. As we all. know now, he was a terrible person and. someone I deeply regret associating. with." And look, I don't even have to. mention Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, formerly Prince Andrew, being stripped. of his titles, even now being. investigated out in the UK over his. relationship and correspondence with. Epstein. We've already talked about that. in a full episode of Sidebar where we. talked about the Royals' connection to. Epstein. I mean, the photo of him on all. fours hovering over a woman on the.
ground, pretty bad. Andrew's ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, former Duchess of York, her charity, Sarah's Trust, announced on. February 2nd it's shutting down. I mean, one thing to keep in mind with her, there was correspondence between her and. Epstein where she said he was always the. brother I've always wished for, congratulated him on one point on having. a child. Yeah, there was that whole. secret child allegations. By the way, Ferguson had also at one point called. Virginia Giuffre's claim that she was. forced to have sex with Prince Andrew a. salacious lie. She said that in a TV.
interview. The Clintons, they're going. to testify in front of Congress because. of Bill's photos with Epstein. You know, remember the famous pool photo that came. out? Took trips on Epstein's plane. Leon. Black, investor, former CEO of Apollo. Global Management. We've talked about. him, too. He left Apollo in 2021, said. it was health issues, but remember a lot. of questions came up about his. relationship with Epstein. One of the. things that came up in the Epstein files. was communications about the two, like. this one. Leon Black will come see J.E. tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. He may want. breakfast, please be prepared. But there.
were also allegations that were very. dark. Allegations that Leon Black is a. rapist. You have an email where it says, "Got a call from victim woman who said. that she heard about lawsuit against. Black." Victim said Black raped her. around 20 years ago, 2001 or 2002 in. Epstein's townhouse. Victim described. it, felt pain on massage table with head. on floor and legs on his shoulders, excruciating. Spoke with redacted in. Manhattan D.A.'s office, substance abuse. problems in 1990s. Prayed on by Epstein,
gave massages to Epstein and Black for. money. You have another claim. Minor. victim in Epstein's townhouse and was. told to give Leon Black a massage, violently raped by Black, 16 years old. when raped by Black. So, look, that is a. sampling of the fallout we're seeing. right now. There is probably going to be. more. It's a question for you out there. about whether each and every person I. mentioned is it justified or not that. their careers are over, their reputation. tarnished. I don't know. You'll have to. make a decision yourself. But a lot has. happened. I will say there are no.
criminal charges yet in the United. States, but also kind of unsure if that. ever will happen considering the FBI. said there's really no one else to go. after, no videos, no photos of any other. third parties abusing girls. They said. it was just Epstein and Maxwell. You. hear lawmakers saying that's not the. case. So, we'll see. There you go. Some. fallout so far over the release of the. Epstein files. That's all we have for. you right now here on Sidebar, everybody. Thank you so much for joining. us and as always, please subscribe on. YouTube, Apple Podcast, Spotify,
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