We Said What We Said ft. Malika Haqq | Khloé In Wonder Land

Hi. Hi, my girl. Should we do like random girl  chat chaos? Love your lip color, by the way. Um, I just feel like everyone is with me. The only  thing that I will allow to rattle my nervous. system is the stock market. If you know, you  know. Don't worry, we're still going to come, but we think we might want to make a few edits.  You can't edit someone else's birthday. Uh, yeah, we can. You'll never be with another man like that  again. Or be with another man. We don't cry on. pillows. We don't miss moments with our children.  I haven't used eye drops in decades. My skin's.

the best it's ever been. I sleep at night. So, do  you want to talk about the dock? Hell yeah. I was. pissed. Now Lamar is doing press insinuating  that I'm a liar. You're not now going to on. me because you don't like the reaction and the  response. Don't take our kindness for weakness. Clock it.

Malikica Chloe, I love that you're back in  Wonderland with me. Me, too. Thank you for. having me. How was your Easter? My Easter was  lovely. What did you do? We just did an Easter. egg hunt. Ace is such an early child. So, we  did one at our house first. Oh my gosh. And he. got to jump on the trampoline that your mom just  got him. Oh, she did? Yeah. He She got him the. ingground trampoline. Oh, those are the Where  did she put it? in my front yard. Oh god. Cuz. I had that massive eyesore of a trampoline.  So it's it's a really gym. It's still there.

We have room. We have a little bit of room. The  jungle gym of a front yard. Yeah. So he did the. trampoline. He did his Easter egg hunt. He opened  his baskets. He opened your basket. He loved it. Cute. He was like, "Mommy, Auntie Coco's the best  ever." I'm like, I know. So cute. Those photos. were adorable. No, he's too cute. And that bunny  was adorable, too. It was like the size of him. Yeah. No, it was cute. It was cute. Yeah. Okay.  I want to make sure that you know that it was.

wonderful. Okay. You're so critical of yourselves.  I am. I'm very critical of everything. You're an. incredible giftgiver. Thank you. That's my  love language. I love gift giving. It's mine. as well. But I don't like receiving. Makes me very  comfortable. Very awkward. Yeah. I just get like, "Oh my gosh, I know how much money this cost. I  know how hard it is to make money." I like spiral. in my head. And it's kind of crazy because you  make me open my presents in front of you and I. don't think you've ever opened a present in front  of me. Hell no. Cuz you're never going to get the.

reaction you want. You're so cute though. I can  always hear your smile on the phone. I can do it. better on the phone. When I'm like with people,  I'm like, "Okay, Chloe, you have to act this way, but don't let it be fake." Cuz it's not fake,  but I just want to make sure I'm giving someone. the response they want. Yeah. You just don't like  to blush in front of people. like you're blushing. right now. Yeah. No, I don't like any of it. It's  very cute. And I became a newer open in front of. me type of person cuz my mom had a talk with me  and said it's like what I should be doing. You.

should. Yeah. They say it's just an American thing  to do. Like other people don't do that. What? Like. you give a gift and you like take it away and then  that's like supposed to be like a normal thing. What? To open in front of people. To not open in  front of people. I think it's just Americans do. that. Yeah. Well, how was your Easter? Mine was  great. We were in Palm Springs. It was really. nice weather. Not too hot, which is always nice  cuz Palm Springs could be deadly. Crazy. But,

you know, we go over the top Easter egg hunts, the  baskets, brunch. We went swimming after and then. drove back down for school on Monday. Crazy, but  it was great. I loved it. Okay, so they're back. in school. Back in school. Okay. I shop around a  field trip yesterday. teach you 12 kids I had to. be responsible for in my group. It was like crazy.  Like when I got home I was like no one can talk to.

me for like an hour because being on that bus  with all it's just a lot of over stimulation. It's the bus for me. It's the bus. I actually feel  really bad now and I hope Ace doesn't talk to Drew. because he had a field trip and I didn't let him  go. Oh well. Did he want to go? He knew about it, but I like kind of talked to him like mommy's just  not comfortable with you going that far away and. on a bus and they didn't they didn't pick mommy  to go. So, were you lying? They were going to No, they were going to an amusement park like Yeah,  near Disneyland. And I was like, I'm sorry. I.

just I'm not comfortable with that. So, unless I'm  one of the chaperones, he can't go. First of all, I don't know. Why does a school send someone to  an amusement park? I mean, I think it's because. the kids really want to go, but I'm just not that  kind of parent. I don't think it's for learning. I. think it's just for fun. It's not when you're on  one of those yellow school buses and it takes 3. hours to get there. The school bus and the diesel  feel not my thing. Sorry. Know that most people I.

just I wouldn't going to be able to ride on the  bus anyway. I was just going to follow behind, but then I just decided I was like, "No, you're  crazy. Cuz what if I want to leave early? I can't. even separate my kid and take him. Like whoever  goes on the bus had to go back on the bus. Yeah. I wouldn't I was like this is just not for us.  I wouldn't let my kid go either. I mean honestly. on the bus yesterday they were all like this is  taking so long. Can we leave? Can we get off? I. have to pee. I'm like was it hot? It has AC on  the bus. Like it was it was fine. In our days.

you just rolled down the window dropped. No. The  new yellow buses have like AC, but it takes 30. extra minutes to get anywhere on those buses.  Where did you guys go, though? Malibu. They're. learning about like plankton and water animals.  And so we went to the bluff and like we have. to go down on the beach and like but a different  guide is with every person. They're like teaching. us about certain native plants and microscopes and  so nice for you home studies. It was great. It was.

great. Did I tell you I'm home studying Ace?  You did? Yeah. But when are you starting? So, he'll graduate from kindergarten and then he'll  start first grade. I found the best Well, my. mother and I found the best Christian home study  program. Nice. It's the cutest. Is your mom going. to do it? She's going to help me, but I'm going  to get him an actual teacher. Malikica's mom, Beverly, is an actual teacher of like 30 years.  I know, but she's retired and it's just hard.

But she is very capable. Imagine having your mom  come teach your kids. Well, my mom never That's so. not her. My Your mom was a teacher. But I get if  your mom's retired and doesn't want to do it. No, she does. I just think it's going to be  different if it's like 4 days a week, 9 to 12 every day. She hasn't been on a schedule  like that in for so long. No. And I don't think. she wants to do be that committed. But you just  can't say I hired an actual teacher. Your mom is.

an actual teacher. I hired another teacher or a  current teacher cuz your mom is retired and then. my mom can do like the substitute teacher work.  You know, when the teacher doesn't come in, my mom. can sub. The making a school lunch and snacks  like being creative. I'm like, I'm not going. to miss it. I will not miss carpull either. But  doesn't it make you appreciate your parents more? I totally understand my mom more. And I guess  that understanding brought appreciation because.

at first I had to be like, "This woman's insane."  When I was in my teens and then once you become a. mom, you go, "Oh, she's not that bad. She's like,  she's like normal." Your parents are people, too. Yeah. That's how I feel. Yeah. And I'm like,  I can't believe she did it with five cuz I have. one and I feel a little crazy most days. Oh, I'm  sure she felt crazy every day. But you just don't. know better cuz you don't know there's like life  outside of this. It's true. Especially because.

she didn't have any access to like the outside  world unless it's like a newspaper. Like that's. just you just knew everyone had kids. You take  them to school like that. Remember when you were. like in the car with your mom or your dad and they  throw that big book on your lap until you flipped. a page? Thomas Guide. Thomas Guide. Our kids  would die if we didn't get them a Thomas Guide. When Bruce used to be like, "Go to page 94  and tell me these coordinates." I'm like,

"A coordinate?" No. Yeah. Our kids will never  know what we suffered through. We used to print. out directions on Map Quest. I think that was  once AOL came around, right? Like, but I still. born and raised LA. I don't go anywhere without  ways. Like everything. Am I like Do I just not. pay attention when I drive? I leave. Show me the  quickest way. Yeah. and I'll make my decision from. there. Just give me I like options. I just can't  go anywhere without it. It's really nuts. So,

I don't know what I did. I I guess I was always  printing out that paper on Matt Quest. Mhm. Crazy. We made it work. Malikica has a show  that's going to be out. I don't know when, but I don't think anyone knows when yet. Just yet.  But exciting. Yes, we're 3 weeks in. We've got. about three more weeks left and then a couple  pickup days. But it's I don't know how you do. this every day. It's a lot. Like and then multiple  other jobs. Like crazy. No friends anymore. Well,

I mean you still have me. We just only see each  other every quarter. Totally. But that's why it's. not like I'm sitting at home like No, but it's  actually good to be a workaholic cuz you get out. of your head a bit sometimes. You just have to  carve out time to do like self things. It's like. my Sundays are so good. My self-care Sundays. You  would love my list. No. What do you always say? I. know Sundays are precious to you. They are though.  They really are. Like if someone talks to me on.

a Sunday, do not disturb. Okay. Do you still keep  your phone off? Sometimes. I haven't had a Sunday. cuz we were in Japan and then like I haven't had  a Sunday in a minute. But when I get a Sunday, I just try to put the phone down and not pay  attention to it. But like I it's not off and. I'll check it. But I just think it's so healthy  to not be a prisoner to your phone and detox a. little bit. Do you remember when I used to turn  my phone off? Yeah. All the time. Malikica used.

to get really emotional and like she still does.  She can totally control her emotions better, but as a young adult, she would like disappear.  Disappear, but also wanted everyone to know in a. way. If I would let you guys know 100% because she  would put on a black icon cuz Kim would always be. like, "You might want to check on Malikica." She  would always cuz then we all knew what it meant.

when she gone and you would not be able to find  me. No. I like give me I needed like I think it. was always somewhere between 48 and 72 hours and  I'd be back to normal. Yeah, but you always just. needed that damn black icon. I think it's a reset.  I can't believe you still remember the color of. the icon. Of course, it was a solid black screen  and everyone was like here. I'm still very black. Yeah, you are. I love my black. I just express  it differently now. Well, cuz you have a kid. You.

can't disappear for 3 days. I'm just emotionally  healthier or stronger. You think? I think so. Do. you think that comes with age and experience? You  go through enough things and you're just like, h, I rather stay in the light so I don't have to go  black. Yeah. You just preserve and protect your. peace. How was Japan? Ooh, it was so nice. Japan  was great. I'm excited you're going to do that for. your birthday. I want to. It's been on my bucket  list for a minute, but I think most importantly, I.

didn't just get up and go cuz I want to make sure  Ace is old enough to understand it or at least. remember, you know? I was like, I think he is.  I mean, what I loved is how much the kids loved. it. There's so many great things to do for kids.  It's so safe. It's so nice. Tatum, like every day. that we're back, he's like, "Are we going to go to  Japan again?" Like he loved it. M I know he won't. remember it when he's older cuz he's only 3 and a  half, but I love how much he loved it and he was.

so happy every day. Like the jet lag is a lot,  but kids are so resilient and they can handle it. and he just like appreciated everything. It was so  funny for someone so young for them to like he was. so into everything we did and that I really loved.  Yeah. I think he realizes how different it is from. his regular life. So he doesn't have to identify  exactly but like that appreciation comes from like. I like this enjoyable for me. Ace was like that  when I took him to Paris at 3. He used to keep.

saying can I go back to my tower? Can I go back to  my tower? He loved the Eiffel Tower and I was like. yeah it's a really long way away. We can't keep  going back but one day. So I think he remembers. it. Go for your birthday. It would just be like  an adult trip. I think my whole family is going. Nice. So that's like it'll be big. That would be  amazing. March. So it's still I think it's the.

start of cherry blossom season. Yeah. That's  why I was like I hope you get it cuz they say. it's so beautiful. It is so beautiful. It rained  a lot when we were there but towards the end the. beginning like it was perfect. It's really really  so beautiful. I'm not really an amusement person. part at all, but the kids love it. They do, but  like after I've hit like 15,000 steps, I'm like, I mean, Disney is not for the faint of heart. You  just have to It's a lot, but the kids love it. So,

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lived that. I don't necessarily want to go back  there because to me it's just dark and sad. Well, this is also what is so annoying to me. So, like  the documentary number one, do people think I just. like talking about this all day long? No, it's  traumatic. I have to relive things. I have to. talk about things that weren't fun in my life,  right? So, I'm It's like, no, I don't just feel.

like doing this. So, I think there's like what  I keep seeing cuz people keep sending me Tik. Toks or just videos. Number one, I was asked by  Lamar or Lamar's team, whatever you want to say. I was asked if I can do the documentary. I was  contemplating cuz I'm like, I don't know if I. want to do that. And also, I wanted to make sure  it was handled in the best way. I said, I want to. make sure this is a positive piece. I don't really  want to go down this road if it's negative. he's.

been through enough negative. Let's like turn the  tune here. Everyone was like, "No, it's amazing. It's going to be really positive." He's the one  doing it. He's the one asking. I'm like, "Okay, cool." Netflix then was like, "We can't finish  it without you. You're a big chapter. Sure, get that." I willingly do the Netflix thing for  Lamar. I'm not getting paid one penny to do this. I have no dog in this fight. It doesn't matter  to me if this documentary is made or not made.

I don't care. Right. And it's also not something  I really want to talk about anymore. You don't. want to go back down. It wasn't a great thing.  It wasn't the best time of my life. I had best. time moments, but it's not like let's rehash the  dark stuff all over again. Can I just say you took. months to get an answer? Yes. You took a long time  to even agree to do this. And on Alexa's point, because I was like, how does this benefit me  for Keeping Up or for Kardashians, whatever?

People always want to ask about the Lamar stuff.  I get it. But at some point, I'm like over it, right? It's like that chapter's done. I'm  good. He's good. We're good. To do this though, what turned me was Netflix reaching out again,  saying like they can't finish it without me. And. I didn't want to do that to Lamar. So, I was like,  okay, he deserves this. you did him a really big. favor cuz you actually can't tell the story of  the that chapter of his life without you. As a. matter of fact, he doesn't know what he doesn't  really know what happened. You do. Either way,

I remember you. I was like, I really want to make  sure like let's get on the same page with what he. wants me to say. You reached out to him for me.  He wouldn't respond to us saying I mean he took. by the time he had responded it was done. Yeah. He  took weeks to respond and we were like hey Chloe's. going to do the interview. She wants to talk to  you prior. Nothing. I tried. All good. Which we. have in writing by the way. Receipts. Also what  I think people are confused about is I'm not.

just sitting on camera talking. There's a producer  asking me questions. This producer is from Lamar's. documentary. Has nothing to do with me. I'm not  an executive producer. I don't edit anybody on. their documentary. I'm not paid a scent. I have  no involvement in this documentary besides sitting. down and giving an interview. This producer is  asking me questions that I then respond to. So,

how would the producer know to ask me certain  things if they're not given by Lamar's team or. this guy does research, right? If the guy is like,  "Hey, so I heard this happened in Vegas. Why don't. you tell me about that?" I'm going to be like,  "I am going to tell you that story." Cuz somehow, you know, the story know exactly. So, I am just  doing exactly what the producer is asking of me. I didn't see the documentary in whole until it  came out. I was still trying to figure out what.

the takeaway was from the documentary. What do you  mean? So I think like for the public. Yeah. So I. I think that that's another thing that people  were kind of hung on, which is like what were. we supposed to get from this? That you weren't  a good father. You weren't a good husband about. So this is what like your overdose was 11 years  ago. You're telling me that you have nothing to. show for anything at the end of your documentary.  you couldn't show after the last 11 years your.

sobriety journey and that has nothing to do with  you has nothing to do with me if there was nothing. positive to show at the end that's on you you are  ending it as making a joke oh let's go to Vegas. let me go to ve come with me to Vegas and get  married or whatever he said to the camera crew. like you're everything's a joke for you you're not  accountable for anything I think what's pissing. me off is we did this all good I was done with  this I'm like I'm never going to do another Lamar.

thing again cuz I'm all good. It's finished.  But now Lamar is doing press, annoyed with me. I can't stand it. Claiming or insinuating that  I'm a liar, all these things, discrediting me, saying that I'm I wasn't the one that helped  him. That pissed me off as well, only because. I was like, "Sir, you weren't you were there,  but you were a shell of a person." I'm like, the things that I witnessed and was there for  even the week that I was in Las Vegas, I was like,

I want my friend out of here, but I knew what you  were doing was so honorable and so loving. Like, it's it is who you are and what you would do. So,  we fast forward how over a decade later and you. want to tell the story, but you want to tell  the person that they're not telling the story. correctly. How, sir? But that's not even that's  not even it. I think for years he was singing my.

praises all this. I don't even need you to sing  my praises. But you're not now going to on me. or now play in my face because you don't like the  reaction and the response from the public. Well, I. think you're getting a better reaction as a human  being than he is getting for his own documentary. That's your documentary. It's not my problem.  I didn't edit your documentary. I had nothing. to do with the final product. That's all you. If  that's the way you wanted your documentary cut. together and all that, how the is that my problem?  Maybe he didn't have control over that, but he.

also didn't have anything positive to give them  either. But again, that's not my problem. I think. this is the first time people have ever really  had an opportunity to hear you speak and see the. experience through your eyes. Well, because it's  not and he didn't like that. It's not my story. to tell. I was I would never expose someone that  was not for me to expose. I kept all of that to. myself for 11 years or whenever that was for this.  I was asked by Lamar to do this documentary. I did.

it for him. His team, whoever provided those  questions to the producer, had to be someone. that knew these things. That's how they knew to  ask me those questions. They don't just happen. So, I answered the questions and then I even said  when I left, well, Lamar can take out anything he. doesn't like cuz I don't care. Take out what you  don't want in there. That's your choice. This is.

your show. And I just find it crazy like that he's  first of all, I don't care. You don't have to give. me credit for anything. I don't want the credit.  All I did was tell the story that I was asked by. you to tell, but now to like play in my face and  now to act like I didn't do any of the things I. did. and insinuate I'm a liar. Look, he needed you  to complete that documentary. There were questions. that I'm sure were asked of him and he couldn't  answer it. You answered them. He just didn't like.

the answers. That doesn't make it not true. All  the rest of that is not your problem. And I know I. know why things irritate you, too, cuz you're also  like, "Here I am again. I was there for you to. help you save your life. I'm here for you to help  you explain your life. And I'm still the bad guy. I'm still getting kind of, you know, the short  end. It doesn't feel good. I get that. But that's. why you're done. Beyond done. Like even in the  documentary when he said something about him.

getting drugs after he overdosed. He's like,  "Yeah, but why would a drug dealer give Lamar. ODM drugs knowing what he went through?" No. No.  Why would you call a drug dealer? You know what. I mean? Like, it's always everyone else's fault.  It's not his. And then I saw on some clip that the. person was like, "Did you watch the documentary?"  Or like, "How do you feel about it?" He's like, "I didn't watch the whole I didn't watch it  all, but I will." First of all, that couldn't be.

further from the truth. This person loves to watch  himself. You're telling me No, he walked in my. house with a picture of himself on his t-shirt. On  his shirt? Yeah. That's a different kind of love. You're telling me that you have a documentary  for yourself and you're trying to say publicly. that you never saw it? Boy, please. Yeah, let's  not. I call BS. Let's not. I just think he wasn't. expecting this response and now he's trying to  sort of slander me a little bit, which frustrates.

me. I think you you know if I can leave you with  anything that I feel like again you should know. is everything you have done is honorable and it  does not serve you as an individual. But what. it does do is speak highly about the heart  and the way you care for people if you ever. said you did. If he doesn't honor that so what?  stick with the people that have been like, "God, she was such a great wife and she really is even a  great person for doing this documentary because I.

wouldn't have I've seen so much stuff where people  are like, I wouldn't have done anything for him. Look at what he did to her then. Look at what he  does now." And I'm like, you really do let things. roll off your back, but I think you pay more  attention to the positive. He's not a positive. person. I don't think he has that to give. You're  sitting on camera saying you married me for fame. What? Like not weak. It's it's all the all  the conversation is very weak. But I saw.

some TikTok was like, "Wait, am I such a fool?"  Because I thought they really loved each other, did it? And and the person was like, "Did  anyone else feel that way?" And I was like, "No, I think that's what you say now after your  wife has left you and it's been a decade later and. you kind of have mud on your face." But he hasn't  said that for years. He was never the truth. KK. What? It was never true that he married you. He's  saying that now. But why is he saying it in his.

documentary? He's saying it now because he that's  the only leg he has to stand on. He can't get you. back. He just texts me. Right. But you're asking  KK will be family forever. In your documentary. and behind the scenes, you your friends, you guys  are all saying how you were with me just for fame. That's like some like I feel so dumb. I spent  hours and time doing this documentary as a favor. I'm not paid one penny. Yeah. I didn't do any like  people are like, "Oh, I wonder how much she got.

paid." What? Look, it doesn't make him look good  at all. No, but I am also that if his if that's. his ego talking and that in some way is supposed  to make him look like he doesn't care about Chloe, it didn't work. It didn't make it doesn't even  make him look good. Listen, I let go the blowup. sex doll he got made of me two years ago, which I  thought was like the most sociopathic thing. How.

violating. How gross. What is wrong with you? Cuz  he just does things for money or for fame. Like he. tries to for attention. Gross. Yeah. Anyways,  I don't want to give this that much breath, but I am like the amount of messages I'm getting.  Everyone is like shocked like how did the tune. change so much? And I think it's changed just  because he's seeing the response and now he's. like, "Oh, I'm going to attack her because she's  getting so much love. Someone told me I'm like the.

icon on the Netflix special." I'm like, "You're  mad at me about your betrayal, but that's what. you gave them." It's crazy. I mean, I guess weak  people often pick someone to be like the bad guy, the fall person. And unfortunately, you are in  that seat quite often. But I think you now are. removing yourself. So, this is just like the  final straw with him over it. I gave you your.

stuff back. I did your documentary. I think we're  done here. And what's crazy is he says over and. over again, "Hey, it's Coke. It's Coke." when we  were together and I would say like you're smoking. crack. He would be like, "Don't say crack. Crack  is a poor man's drug. Say coke because it comes. off more expensive." Excuse me. So if you see the  documentary, all he does is reference coke because. he won't say the word crack. And I'm almost  thinking, is that why he was mad at me? I'll be. honest with you, I would probably still be working  with you till this day if it weren't for him. He.

is the reason I left. Well, I didn't want to be  around that stuff. Well, and that's also like I. haven't said 90% of the story I have. This is this  is why I'm going sir, I want you to stop talking. cuz I don't want to get in a position where I feel  like I have to even defend you and I couldn't have. been nice to be normal sir because the information  I offered cuz I have 90 literally this was only. 10% of the that it was nothing compared to photos  and receipts and all those things. So it's like.

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daughter needs an a manager. Yeah. Um, hook her up  with Chris. Not even hi. You can't say hello. No, he know. He does. He gets straight to the point.  All you do is respond to him. I don't respond to. him anyway cuz he should I want him to literally  know that I read it and I we talk about receipts. on No, but he knows I read it. You know what I  mean? Cuz any other time that he's ever called. me or text me, I respond. So, you know, I've  seen your message. I want you to know that I've. read it. I want you to know that we're talking  about you and that your access has been denied.

That's what I want you to know. I have seen like  clips from like on TikTok basically like someone. will pull something that you said and then they'll  like narrate their feelings behind it. And it one. thing that made me happy I I want to share this  with you cuz I think I shared something else. One. thing that made me happy was to see so many people  read your heart the same that they were the same.

way you we you've always been but that they didn't  know you were at that time cuz it's one thing to. just say like yeah I was there at the hospital I  did all of these things that maybe a nurse should. have been doing. I was scared for you. I never  wanted to leave Las Vegas but I was like I don't. want to be here anymore. I love you anyway. Not  about me. I just feel like the things that I heard. people say where they're just like, "God, she  really is a good soul." Like some like these guys. really have not deserved her. But it's I think  What is wrong with all of them? Well, I think they.

know how to pick. But I don't. Well, we need to  be more judgmental. No, I know. I don't. I think. we need to be more judgmental because the truth  is is if you see someone that doesn't carry the. qualities and characteristics that you are. No one  has to be like you. But someone should have your. heart. Someone should have your depth. Someone  should lead with the spirit the way that you do. You'll never be with another man like that again.  It's dark with another man. Period. If that's the.

safest thing you find, so be it. I might be right  there with you. And then people always like, why. haven't you had a date in four years? I'm like,  are we Have you seen the history? Want to go back? Let's go back 10 years and I can give you every  man I've been with and what trauma they caused. me on a daily basis. Would you be skipping into  your next relationship or would you be immersed.

in watching your stunning, beautiful children  grow up and build core lifelong memories? I'm not. letting a man with me right now. Can you imagine?  We don't cry on pillows. We don't miss moments. with our children or our families. Never puffy. I  haven't used eye drops in decades. My skin's the. best it's ever been. I sleep like I'm not worried  about someone's coming home, what they're doing, who they're with. You could My nervous system  is regulated. I got my regulated. I got my heart. checked the other day and the guy was like, "How  are you?" Guy was like, "How did you why are your.

levels like they're astronomical? You're amazing.  You're like a 15y old. What did you do?" I said, "I sleep at night." Literally, that was my answer.  Mhm. Sleep. Yeah. That's it. It's very important. Very important. And these men are not. No. I  said, "The only thing that I will allow to rattle. my nervous system is the stock market. That's  it. I will never be in another situation with.

someone where I feel that disturbed. Doesn't that  feel by who you are? My no game. No. I think the. first sign if someone's stressing me out or like  I know when I can like get out of my character. Mhm. Like actually I will never text you. You'll  never see me again. No. You're blocked. We don't. do that anymore. Crazy. It took us to get here to  figure it out. But that's fine. I'll take it. Cuz. now we're good for our kids and that's really all  that matters. I don't need to be good for another.

adult. I'm good for my children. I think someone  will be good for you one day. One day. It's not a. mother thought. I know it. Just don't care. Talk  about happy. Talk about bliss. I know. This is. joy right here. It really is. Me and you on a  sofa. No, it really is. Just talking with kids. Just talking [ __ ] Happy unbothered. Well, what's  going on dating for you? Absolutely nothing. No, literally absolutely nothing. Okay. So, who's  on your list? Like, what are five manifestation.

things that you want out of a man? He looks  like George Clooney/ Richard K. Okay. Um, he's deaf older than me. Okay. Right. Seasoned.  Probably eats dinner at 4:30. Goes to bed at 6:00, you know. Stop. Yeah. And then I can go have like  a glass of wine at your house while he's sleep. And then we get up and have an early breakfast.  And he might name a yacht after me or something.

I don't know. Okay. What about anything on the  inside? He cannot be his own leader. He has to. be like Christled or have some higher power. No.  Cuz you know that ego that's like I run my life. I'm the reason I'm so successful. I'm like that's  cool and all. You can support yourself and think. highly of your work ethic, but like if your higher  power is yourself? No. No. Absolutely not. So, I'll never never be led by someone that doesn't  have a strong spiritual like compass. Do you need.

someone to be your same religion? No. Okay. No. I  actually believe that like being led by spirit is. more important to me than who you pray to. Right.  I believe we if you pray, I believe it's all your. God. My God. My relationship with God is my  relationship. So your relationship with God, I don't get involved in. I would love a man that I  can pray with. Mhm. Um I need a really good strong.

leader cuz as you know, I have a tendency to  get in my head. Mhm. I want someone that has. a life that's totally different from mine.  Like I don't care if he makes those books. Like when we come together, we just have two  different lives that actually work together. and it's cohesive and joyful. Um, I'd love a  great father figure for my son. That would be my. son really wants that. I would like to have one  more kid. I don't know. It's fine. If we don't,

Ace will always be enough for me. That's fine.  But it's not enough for Ace. Like, he's like, "Where's my baby, mommy?" He keeps saying,  "Where's my baby and where's my pet?" And I'm. like, "You'll probably get a baby before you get  a pet." What? because they eventually grow up and. take care of themselves. I can't do the I can't do  it. I'm not telling AC get one. I'm just saying, you know, mommy is doing the best that she can to  take care of you and you're just going to have to.

give mommy a minute. Why don't we go to Target  and get a new toy? I just kind of, you know, that's my thing. It's terrible. You're talking  to me. No, no, no. I'd like a new toy. Well, I feel like you knew your manifestation list quite  quickly, so that's good that you're thinking about. it. Yeah, I think I wrote it down. What about  yours? I don't have one at all. So, what are you. manifesting? It doesn't have to be a man. So,  what are you manifesting? Manifesting? I mean, I'm just like happy, healthy. I like just being  as present as possible, but I am really fixated on.

some of my businesses. Like brand new businesses  are like babies. So, I'm needing to give a lot of. energy and time there and first and foremost my  kids. But like that's what where my energy goes. It's not like if it's not work, it's my kids. If  it's my kids, it's work. And then Yeah, I just. don't think about a man right now. I really don't.  And I'm not mad about that. I get it. So, is there.

anything else that you want that you don't have?  I mean, I'm sure if I think about things, I think. what I would love is to learn to balance like  friend life a little more. Sometimes I'm like, "Oh, I would love to do this once a week." But  knowing that's not realistic for me cuz like. the weeks get away from me, right? But like really  making it why can't I twice a month go to a dinner. with my friends? Like sometimes I feel like I need  to schedule it and then once I'm there I'm great.

Yeah. But you have to have the energy to actually  do it. And sometimes I don't. But I know when I'm. there I have so much fun and I need that for my  soul. See our relationship is like very different. We spent a lot of our time growing up side by side  and now as we've gotten older it's separated us. A. lot of people don't see their friends every day.  They like see them maybe on the weekend or on. their birthday. I think that's kind of normal. I  don't know what's normal anymore. I really really.

don't. Just a few random kind girl chat questions.  First core memories of each other. first core. memories the day I met you which was God I think  I was at Andre's house I was like I was going for. the age I think I was 16 17 yeah 16 or 17 and you  were like a platinum blonde y I was like who's. this tall drink of water and you laughed exactly  the same um but you were sweet and so inviting.

cuz I didn't even know if I was going to talk to  you I was like, "Oh my god, Malikica's boyfriend. was one of my best friends and he," which we  didn't realize at the time, but he kept us. apart from each other. I think he just was like,  he knew we would fall in love and be besties. So, he was like, "I'm not doing this." And he kept us  apart. And I was picking something up from Andre's. house cuz he lived so close to me at the time.  And Malikica answered the door and I was like,

"Hey, you look like a nice girl." And we were just  like chatting. And we just chatted in the doorway. We hang out like the next day or something.  And then I met your sister and me and your. sister became besties while you were with Andre  and we just were obsessed. Inseparable. We've. been together ever since. Ever since. Thoughts on  audiobooks versus reading a book. Ooh. So, I love.

actual books. Same. I love texture. I love the way  they feel. I love the smell. But practicality, if. I just need to get information and I'm trying to  get two things done at once, whether I'm walking, I like to listen to an audio book. I feel like I  retain the information as well. Like for audio, I like it and it's timesaving, but if I have  a real book and can highlight or whatever, I. just remember it so much more. So studious of you.  Social anxiety. Do you have it? Highly. A really.

and it's weird because I was not like this when we  were younger. I know my social anxiety is so bad. I can feel someone looking at me from behind. I  think it's a co thing. I think it was born I think. I was like that before. It just got worse now  that I have a kid. I feel like I have eyes around. my entire head. Oh yeah, that's that's I'm too  aware. So it's not enjoyable. I'm like I'll just.

stay home. That's being a mom. But Ace makes me go  to restaurants. He's very social. He's Oh my god. He made me my He was introducing me and my mom to  someone in Costco. He didn't even know her. He was. like, "Hi, I'm Ace. What's your name? This is my  mom. This is my Emma." I was like, "Oh my good, he's so cute." But he like makes me talk to people  and I have anxiety. But that's good. Maybe that's. what you need. He'll help me grow out of it. How  do you feel when you watch old clips of you on. Tik Tok? I think the funniest Tik Toks that I see  are like the compilation videos that people do of.

you and I. Those are always so funny. They go  so far back. We were so young. I'm like, "Wow, those keeping up days are like different scenes  and like Courtney and Chloe take Miami." I'm like, "Oh my goodness." Do you forget? Like for me,  and I don't know if it's cuz I film so much, but. like Keeping Up was on and SAZ and Re were like,  "Do you want to watch this?" I was like, "Sure,

let's see what it is." Cuz like, "Do you know  what this means? Kendall and Kylie ruin." It's. like the description was like, "Kendall and Kylie  damage, Chris's rug, something." And I was like, "I have no idea." I was like, "You guys, we filmed  so much. I like I don't know." It's hard watching. it. I don't remember one thing. And then like  there's some episodes I it's like I'm right there. I remember it, but some are just like I don't  know. I don't remember a thing. Do you see stuff.

like that and you're like, "Oh, I need to watch  this cuz I don't remember." No, I just see a lot. of things even of Chloe and Lamar show and I was  like, "Oh my goodness." Like we really did. And. that was like two seasons, right? Mhm. I was like,  "We did a lot. We did a lot a lot. A lot. Yeah, there was a lot. And I don't like I we have really  great memories together, but there's just some. moments where I'm like me and this girl really  used to rip and run. H we were busy. How quickly.

do you respond to emails? Oh, I'm slow these days.  It sucks. I sort of respect that. I'm a little. slow these days and I I don't love it, but I think  that's because there's things in my life that need. to be better organized so that I can like I just  like don't have a full-time assistant now. So, there's more things that I'm physically doing  because they're in front of me. I sometimes I just. like don't even know where my phone is. So, what  I try to do is don't go to the phone and I'll sit.

in my closet and then go on the computer and try  to go through my emails that way. For some reason, when it's a little bigger, I feel less I don't  know. I get more stuff done, too. Okay. I get. annoyed with how quickly I will respond to things  sometimes cuz like now that I my day is running. away from me, I can't. And I have over a hundred  new emails from today, I'm like, I don't have the. energy for this right now. My picture of you in my  head, you have your hand your phone in your hand. Yeah. That's not good. And you're responding to  something. That's not good. But you have a very.

full life, honey. There's a lot going on. Are  you an exclamation point person? Facts. I am. like I need you to know how serious I am about it.  Screaming. Yeah. I'm going to put a couple. Yeah. But why are girls like this? Why don't we do that?  We're just we're dramatic. That's what everything. I'm screaming about. I'm just so happy. And I'm  like in real life, I'm not that happy. Why am I. so happy? It's crazy. You like a little extra  emphasis on things. I think it's part of your.

character. It's cute. I don't know why I'm like  that crying in public. Oh, I will cry anywhere. Nothing's changed about me. Well, it's feel it.  I cannot I cannot hold back my emotions. No, I know. But the crying has really I can't believe  you're not over it. No, it's really hardwired in. who I am. It's crazy. Yeah. Very generous till  you cry. Oh, me and Chris are just alike in that. way. Crying over anything. But we feel deeply,  honey. No, it's great. I just don't know how you.

guys do it. It doesn't bother us so much. No, we  think it's healthy. What is your bedtime routine. now? I know you used to like a glass of wine and  to go to bed. Yes. So, no, now we're going to tea. Tea. Tea. Like chamomile. Like it's giving like  sometimes like a liver kidney flush recently. Oh. yeah. Little metal. Better ginger. Honey like I  switch it up. Thought you were going to say like.

a liver tea. I was like that's No, no, no. Not the  actual protein. Gh. I like to take my vitamins, wash my face, mask my hands. Oh my god. I mean, it  takes almost as long at night to get ready for bed. as it does to get ready in the morning. Seriously.  Are you one of those girls that do like the mouth. tape and all that? No. I started that and I got  over it so quickly. God, I cannot be one of them. Yeah. I just I was just weird. Does Ace sleep  through the night? He does, but he has a new.

thing where he wakes up around like 5:00 a.m. and  gets in bed with me. That's fine. Yeah, but it's. awful from 5 to 6 with him in bed. No, he's cuz  he's a spinner. It's just like I get kicked in. the face. Like I actually got up this morning and  got in his bed. And he came to his room. He goes, "Mommy, why did you leave your bed?" I was like,  "You kicked me, honey." He's like, "Oh, I'm so. sorry. I was so asleep." What is your criteria  for people to get close to you? Um, patience. I.

require quite a bit of patience cuz I don't let  people in the way I once did. Sometimes you and. your sister just pick up random people that you  guys become friends with. So, don't I don't have. any randoms. I have no strays right now. No, but  I'll see you guys like be like, "Happy birthday. to so and so." I'm like, "To who?" I don't know.  I don't know these people ever. Haven't seen them. them. You'll be at like their birthday lunch  and I'm like honestly Malikica, go home. Oh,

no. That was Kadijah. Are you talking about  I told you like she has like mom friends. She loves a friend. You know her. She's got like  her church group and I'm happy for her. Her, you know, she's like a real mom. The next time  I see it on your stories, I'm going to be like, Mhm. I'll send you the I know you will. I know  you will. But you do make random friends. I don't. have any randoms. I swear. I think the last time I  made a friend was like four years ago and she's my.

business partner now. So, yes, Anna's one of them.  Yeah, that's about it. No, there's others. I'll. send it to you. What the [ __ ] are you talking  about? Who are these rand? Well, you could never. be jealous. You're first in my eyes, girl. Thank  you. That's all I need to hear sometimes. It's you. or it's you. That's all I need to hear sometimes.  And I know I don't have the energy. So go hang out. with neither do I with Anna and the other ones,  but just know when I call it's on. I can't wait.

till she's May 8th. Okay. It's on May 8th. May  8th. We're having a date, you and I. We're going. out. And Cameron. Yeah. Who else is on the list?  Oh my god. I'm going to tell him to send it to us. Hold on. Yeah. Send us the dinner list, the invite  list. Send the list. And I also need to know. like vibes of clothing. Nosy. We want to know the  invite list for your birthday. Don't worry, we're. still going to come, but we think we might want  to make a few edits. You can't edit someone else's.

birthday. Uh, yeah, we can. Well, Malik, this was  fun. I would love to do this again. It was an easy. breezy. Let's Whenever you want, love, I will  come and hang out with you. Thank you for having. me in Wonderland again. Thank you. Okay, let's  go continue our date. All right, let's do it.