Untold Stories Behind the Kardashians ft. Kris Jenner | Khloé In Wonder Land Ep. 9

[Music]. so five is your closeup hi Hi Five get. it high five I just got. it I think when I was about 16 years old. all I wanted to do was have six kids. that was my destiny and I used to pray. about it and I claimed it I don't think. anyone questions your determination I. think everyone knows if you I was laser. focused I have this like anxiety and. this buildup about the teenage stage I.

know what a terrorist I was as a. teenager you were you were wild I know. you were spicy and crazy okay you're. confirming that I should be terrified of. the teenage phase absolutely you and Kim. like we're going to film a show and you. guys have to be on it court and I were. like no we're not we don't want to be on. this show then when you were like our. manager and telling us what to do and. we're like What are you talking like. you're not going to boss us around like. we were like what you just don't want. people thinking oh working with family. is Breeze there are challenges for sure.

just use me as a filler when you don't. want to tape another episode oh you'll. be the host no oh yeah you have nurtured. that Rolodex you will have I don't know. Jesus sitting right there oh my gosh. that would be great that would be great. [Music].

hi Mommy hi hi I'm so happy that you are. on my podcast thank you for inviting me. we've been talking about this for years. not me being here but you having a. podcast yes and I'm really proud of you. thank you because I think it's very. brave of you to actually go ahead and. pull the trigger and do this when you. were so reluctant to do it for so long. for so many reasons and here you are and. look at you.

here we are I know well you know having. you on obviously you are what many. people aspire to have on any podcast but. you're my mom and I feel like we film. together and like you have a documentary. coming out one day and like there's. books about you I there's not for me I. felt like asking you the typical. questions of where were you born where. were you born you know how was San Diego. what's your mom like I feel like people.

that are real fans of yours know those. things and so sure we might glaze over. those things but I really thought an. interesting topic that I feel is. interesting and that people always ask. me about people are always praising us. for our family Dynamic um they always. say like whether they come from a family. with a lot of siblings they always are. like oh my gosh you remind me of my mom. and my siblings or if they don't have. siblings.

they dream like that's their fantasy if. I had a bunch of siblings like that's. the sibling Dynamic and parent Dynamic. that I would love to have with my family. so I felt like it would be a great. episode to talk to you about I think our. Dynamic the dynamic that you have with. your children and the many phases of. that but did you always dream about. being a. mother well yeah I mean that was the.

dream the dream for me when I was. growing up all I wanted to do was have. six kids so much so that I would think. about it day and night I had things. planned out in my head I wanted to be. that was my goal in life to get married. and be able to raise a family have six. kids and live happily ever after and in. those days you know when I was growing. up I sound like a a dinosaur but there. were no cell phones there were no you.

know I barely had color TV so there was. no real form of communication or things. to compare yourself to or things that. inspired me so I don't know where and. when I got inspired but I was watching. Leave it to Beaver and I Love Lucy and. all those shows and The Flintstones and. everything in between the Jetson and you. know you just saw the future and your. life as more traditional in those days. it was a very I was born in the ' 50s I. was a 50s baby and I think I kind of.

grew up like a 50s child even though I. graduated from high school in the 70s. but all I ever wanted to do was have. kids so the year after I graduated from. high school I met Daddy and I just. thought was the dream was to have babies. and you know sail off into the sunset do. you know what's interesting when I was. getting divorced from your dad I thought. wow how did that go so sideways I was. supposed to have six kids I always.

thought that was my destiny that was. that was what was going to happen and I. used to pray about it and I claimed it. and it was going to happen so I really. thought I messed up when there weren't. six of you guys at the time I I think. about that often I thought how. interesting that that was one of the. main takeaways from that whole. experience and I think also maybe and. it's so crazy to think this but you had. Kendall and Kylie when you were 40 and. 41 and.

and 28 years ago or 27 years ago it was. really rare for someone in their 40s to. have children it was almost like. whispered about like taboo like she's 40. right and she's going to have a baby is. she nuts and so and then it was OB. obviously safe to have babies at that. age but everybody thought there was also. some danger to it like what's going on. how could she have a baby in her 40s.

doesn't aren't all her eggs gone and it. was very controversial well so I'm sure. even you probably thought that ship has. sailed I didn't know what to think I. thought I got pregnant right away and. then had a miscarriage but I also had a. miscarriage right before Robert was born. so at a couple months right before I got. pregnant with Rob I had a miscarriage. and then I had a miscarriage right um. before Kendall so when I got pregnant. with.

Kendall it was we were really trying. because I thought you know I'm not this. isn't taken me down I will show my body. you know you almost it's almost like a. challenge to get pregnant I I don't. think anyone questions your. determination I think everyone knows if. you I was laser focused laser focus you. say you're going to do something you're. going to do something and if somebody. said if I read something that said drink. iced tea or take you know Pepto Bismol.

or have three coffees or whatever. somebody's recommendation was I would do. whatever it took you know to try and get. pregnant like all these little old wi. tales and under the bed one time you and. your ex-husband were trying and that. was still go to therapy over that yeah. but you snuck into my bedroom I was. playing hide and go seek and nobody. found me and I fell asleep well you were. with Franchesca so you apparently who. were you looking for each other you were.

hiding under my bed it was gross and you. didn't get caught you decided to stay. there because it sounded exciting and. you got an earful and you being tortured. for the rest of your life is exactly. what you deserve great well those sounds. will never leave your no they won't wait. how did you get out of there did we. catch you under the bed or did you wait. R I ran out and you guys were like what. was that oh so we didn't at the time. know it was you yeah well you like I ran.

out and because at first we were like H. like I think we were like oh my God and. like a little giggling and then you guys. were like I think I hear something and. then when you guys said that we ran and. then you're like what was that who was. that no one came to find us for a while. cuz I think you guys were probably so. mortified as ibly trying to figure out. the game plan like what do we say what. do we say we were doing yeah let's say. we were wrestling yeah no I knew. happening it was an Olympic competition. gross I can't even think of about this. anymore okay this is like a therapy.

session am I have to are you going to. make me go through every childhood. trauma no that's not help you like work. it out tell you're satisfied if Courtney. was here then that would probably happen. but I'm good all right good I don't feel. like I have a lot of childhood traumas. thank God I don't that makes one yeah I. think well me and Kim I think are on the. same boat and what I find interesting. cuz I don't remember like even I.

absolutely despise when people call. Kendall and Kylie our half sisters yeah. because I'm like no those are my real. sisters I was born and raised with them. spent every minute with them and so I. really find that insulting when people. say that about us so I don't like that. term none of us like that term and um I. don't even think about that term or use. that term we never do but like just. other people I just hate when they lab. that recognize the Divide really really.

hate that I don't hate a lot of things. but um I think something that you did so. well because I hear from so. many Blended families like it's so hard. to integrate my first set of kids with. the other set of kids but I don't. remember there ever being with any one. of us I think Kendall and Kylie were. born when I was maybe like 11 and 12. that okay maybe younger I don't know 95. so you were 11 you were 11 so but I.

don't remember ever there needing to be. even a discussion or just even with my. dad I felt like everything I don't know. we've always had this really strong. family Dynamic we never felt like no you. were you were you were at the hospital. all of us when I gave birth all of us so. you guys all came and it was like here's. your baby sister like this is we're all. going home together we're all in this. together you sleeping on the floor and. you know any I don't even know if you do.

cuz for us it was not I don't think it. was methodical or talked about but do. you have any tips for people that are. trying to blend families or nervous. about that you know I think that it's a. little bit different if you have parents. with two sets of you know two families. and each parent has a different set of. children with somebody else that's a. little bit different it's a little bit. harder to really integrate the kids and. and if the kids get along.

then you know it's that's obviously a. lot easier but with Kendall and Kylie I. felt like I had two litters of kids and. it was just so natural that one just. came a little bit later than the other. and it was you guys I think from the day. I got pregnant with Kendall and the day. I got pregnant with Kylie you guys were. so involved in every discussion. every doctor's appointment decorating. the nursery you know where we were going.

to live because we were looking for now. we had to get a bigger house and that. was the year in 1996 right after Kendall. was born and before Kylie was born we. moved to Hidden Hills and it was all. about finding this big you know massive. house that everybody could have their. own bedroom and you know I think the. minute that we came home from the. hospital with number. five I think you were in love with your. sister and so was everybody else and and.

you know it there was never a thought of. she doesn't belong to me right she's not. mine this is my sister and everybody was. so protective and loving and you know it. was just you know we did everything. together yeah and nobody was ever left. out right not even your dad your dad. came over way before we you know. obviously when Kendall was born and he. just wanted us to know and you guys to. know I'm Uncle Robert I really think. what it has to do with and I always say.

this is the parents yeah I think. 100,000% yeah if children see that this. is normal and okay by all parents. everybody involved then the kids are. like okay this is okay because I think. hatred and all of that stuff is learned. that's not innate in anybody you know I. think it causes so. much trauma to the children and. unhappiness and and just being very. anxious a lot of anxiety and people.

really trying to tiptoe around parents'. feelings and that's really not the. child's responsibility it's really for. us as parents to make you guys feel. loved and comfortable well I know from. my personal experience with Tristan and. how we're such good co-parent is because. of the example that I I've had my whole. life from you and my dad's Dynamic to. Bruce and my dad's Dynamic and it's all. I saw so for me it was a no-brainer and.

I do really think that yes you don't. need that example you can do it on your. own but when you have that example it's. it's all you know and it's just embedded. in you and it's so easy and for that OB. like it's I think one of the best. lessons because it's so peaceful for my. children andace that is such a great. important powerful word because it. really does you know you don't let the. divide and the trauma and the nastiness.

come in at all it's almost like you've. built a wall where none of that can get. in because you're showing your kids how. to live this amazing to do with them. life together and it this has exactly. and they want to feel loved children. want to feel you guys all my my job as a. mom was to make sure you were safe and. you felt loved and secure in a really. special place and that was the most. important thing to me and if we could. get there and you know what it wasn't.

even something that we sat down and. talked about although I feel like we. would have if it got nasty or anything. at some point but I think that when. people get divorced I feel like there's. always a cooling off period where people. have to find their way and come to terms. with what's just happened and maybe the. fact that you're not going to be with. this person forever but when you have. kids with somebody you are with that. person you're connected forever for the.

for the rest of your life in my mind yes. of course and that's how I've always. lived my life and I you know would share. everything with your dad and then after. we had our cooling off period is what I. like to call it we became best friends. and he would come once we moved to. Hidden Hills and Kendall was born and. then Kylie followed and you guys were. you know young 11-year-olds or teenagers. and all that he'd come walking in the. back door at any time what's for dinner. you know he'd be there Christmas morning.

he'd be there on your birthdays we'd. give our parties we would you know. co-host everything that you guys did and. he just wanted to be a part of every. special moment and want to be a part of. the planning of it too I would call him. up and go hey Rob's graduating from you. know this or that where are we going to. go you know or you know from. kindergarten he would be a part of the. recital when you were four years old in. nursery school you know but I mean we. were still married then but I mean he.

was a part of all of those moments and. what I mean is he still wanted to be a. part of every single moment he came to. Kendall and Kylie's birthday parties I. know you know as Uncle Robert yeah so it. was a pretty special time and I think. that the best thing that happened. because of all of that was that you guys. it takes a village but it takes all. like-minded adults and I wish people. would put their own ego and issues aside. for the betterment of children because. it makes such a difference in the long.

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um and I think all three of you guys did. an incredible job and then my dad thank. you died in 2003 and so I think you. always had that person to lean on my dad. died my brother was 16 I was 19 and I. forget Courtney Kim in their young. 20s and you know having that person I. think just really abruptly taken away. how did your role change of being yeah.

you know a parent that had yes we still. had Bruce but it is different when our. real dad is now gone and who was also he. he was so present in your lives and such. a big part of our day-to-day so it. wasn't just like oh your dad lives in. Iowa and you know he's not around very. much or he's not you know an available. he he was emotionally available to you. guys in such a big big way and he was. emotionally available to me and that.

really meant the world to me because he. was um he was always there and when I. got remarried Bruce didn't have a lot of. money and I didn't have a lot of money. and we were trying to put it together. and we were all collectively paying for. for um private school and all these. different things but one of the funniest. things and one of the Nic most lovely. things that your dad did was when I was.

going through this your dad used to um. kind of jokingly harp on me for my nean. Marcus Bill oh yeah so every month it. was the Neeman spill oh her and the nean. bill she's still using my Nan's card. right I was going to say it was his card. yes let's talk about this relatable. Story please okay but anyway it was a. charge card I was spending too much. money and so later when I was remarried. I remember one time he goes do you need. anything I know you know. it's crazy over there and I said well if.

you want to help me pay my and now I had. my own neon's card and I asked him would. you pay the bill this month and he goes. sure and he paid my neeman's card bill. that month and I'll never forget it and. we laughed about that he goes if you. would have told me years ago that I. would still be paying your nean Marcus. bill you know or your clothing Bill all. these years later and so we got a good. laugh out of that but I just think that. that's cute when you're. supportive and you. can raise kids together and be there for.

one another and do it as a as a team it. was definitely something where we were. all aware of this that's a lot of people. I mean six kids is a lot of kids and he. was really well aware of the fact that I. was juggling and by the way my. relationship with you changed the minute. I had Kindle because you really grew up. and came to bat for me because you were.

like my little helper you were Mama's. helper cuz I was working from home and. whenever you came home from school or on. the weekends you always helped me with. Kendall and then Kylie which changed my. world because we didn't have a nanny I. had somebody to help me with housework. and stuff and somebody to help which. then turned into somebody helping with. the kids while I was working in my home. office but I just remember you were. you had this amazing bond with them the.

little ones because you were so in love. with them and you knew I could use the. help and you found a gazillion ways to. entertain them you really did you'd feed. them you'd bathe them you'd help put on. their pajamas you'd take them for walks. you'd play with them in their playhouse. outside or you'd swim with them or. whatever it was and that made I think. that not only made your your bond with. them so strong but our bond so strong.

because you were you were doing. something that Kendall and Kylie were. out the house by then I mean uh Courtney. and Kimberly where Courtney was went to. college and cam ran off and got married. and I didn't find out for a minute until. Courtney yes found it on the internet so. that was wild I mean we've been through. some wild stuff together mhm and I think. that does make a family close did you.

feel a shift of your role as a parent. when right my dad passed away and if you. didn't that's F I felt a huge shift and. a huge responsibility and now it was you. have to say. okay I'm the mom and the dad I have to. make the decisions that him and I used. to make together because no matter what. happen him and I would always discuss. whatever was going on with you guys and. make decisions together School decisions. um I remember before he passed he was.

Rob was living with him and we had this. really crazy plan that he was going to. make sure that Rob was prepared and. prepped for college and for the college. exams and filling out all the paperwork. to get into USC and different colleges. that he wanted to apply to and I thought. oh great this is your lane this is I'm. so happy this is happening you know were. this was early like 20. 2003 and it was such a relief to me that.

he was so you know wanted to be there. for Rob and when he passed I was lost I. am not Scholastic like that I wasn't the. one who was doing homework with Rob I. wouldn't know how to do high school. homework I mean that was like so out of. my you know realm of things that I would. be good at or help somebody else doing. first grade home work and I'm like what.

is Singapore Math I know hello Singapore. Math I don't know what that is exactly. okay try it no I'm going to make you do. it one day no like excuse me what. happened to just regular edition one. plus one I know well he was really. instrumental in just helping your. brother mature and go through those. teenage years of his life and I knew the. girl thing inside and out but the boy. thing was a bit you know I just thought.

oh Rob's got this do you think you're. more of a girl mom or a boy mom or can. you adapt to both I learned how to adapt. to both yeah I think I was more of a. girl Mom right but then Rob was the most. adorable perfect like funny. loving athletic I mean he was just. everything that he was a boy but all boy. mhm what is your favorite stage of a kid.

like I'm not a huge infant type of. person like I like infants but I'm like. all right can we do something like I. more love I love the infant stage I love. the way they smell I love the cuddling. you guys were such Angels except. Courtney oh God not give her more she. Justa she just threw up on everybody. everybody we couldn't get that formula. right so that was challenging but after.

I got through that I think I love the. baby baby stage then when they first. learn to walk that always used to be an. adjustment for me because we always had. stairs and you know a lot going on and. it was running around trying to chase. four little kids around it was nuts I. think for me my biggest right now I. don't know I'm just I got to get this. out of my head okay is that I have this. like anxiety and this buildup about the.

teenage stage I know what a terrorist I. was as a teenager you were you were wild. I know you were spicy and crazy you used. to Chloe Chloe so each one of you. probably had a good 18. months of Hell Week wow I called it hell. week but it was really 18 months and one. of the things you used to do regularly I. might add was we had a bedroom you had a.

bedroom that had a patio off of the you. put downstairs because the other kids. took my room so I moved downstairs well. the babies needed to be up by us so. you're downstairs and I think you're a. pretty mature young. lady but you're also very creative and. resourceful and you used to stuff your. bed as if it was a person sleeping under. the covers lock your door leave the room. mhm but lock that door and then you.

would leave and I don't know when you. came back or how you got back in but. this went on for a minute and I fell for. it until one night I just thought. there's no way she's this good of a kid. and puts herself to bed every night at. 8:00 and doesn't come out of that room. until you know 7 o' the next morning and. we had to break into your room and. that's when we found out that you had. been stuffing your bed and leaving and.

then another time that I still can't get. out of my head and I'm sort of like okay. a little angry about it is. you were friends let's call it you were. friends okay some okay and you used to. cook for them are you going to talk. about the. pots pots and pans I can't let it go I. cannot let it go I will buy you new pots. and I have pots and pans. but you took my favorite pots and pans.

from Tower Lane that I used to make that. was my PE love pan and you took my PE. love pan what can I to make this up to. you cuz you bring this up on a weekly. basis what can do there's nothing okay. so we're just going to talk about it. forever well we're we're in the right. you know Forum this is the right it. happens once a week the peel off pan. okay well the peel off pan so that was. my favorite pan I got to do something. about said to you where's my PE love P I.

went to go make PE love I made PE love. twice a. week and you like did not know where the. Pea magically disappears and you were. blue right blue the blue PE love pan. with the clear top the clear glass lid. and I used to make my PE love and I was. so happy with that pan I wore it in it. was the perfect like. cookware and you just really took my pan. and I asked you bring the pan just go to. the guy's house and get the pan back.

yeah and you just wouldn't I just. wouldn't do it no you wouldn't and but. then phone disappeared feel like at the. end of this episode we should be like in. loving memory to the peof pan RP yeah. and my phone with the $6,000 bill that. somebody you loaned my phone to somebody. when cell phones first became a thing. and I said's phone you did and I said. where's my phone and I think or somebody.

took it from you that you had had a cell. phone missing it was lost so now I'm. looking for it I had to get a new phone. and when I got the bill who has a $6,000. cell phone bill I'm not sure about this. story it was from. Europe wow I'm so sheep somebody took I. knew people from Europe at somebody took. the phone to Europe and charged all this. money on my phone and I'm like these are. her friends I have so your grandmother. to say show me your.

friends and I'll show you and I'll show. you who you're going to be and I was. like these friends they're taking the PE. love Pan and the phone to Europe they. sound pretty Chic and cultured they know. what to take they probably were yeah. they know what to take they probably. were but anyway you gave me a run for my. money I was and you were you were you're. confirming that I should be terrified of. the teenage phase absolutely I feel like. it was always what it seemed so seamless. for you and I would love even for myself.

for the listeners out there what are. some tips like how do you handle your. children like cuz we drink together I. mean now I'm 40 but like there is that I. would think there's that transitional. period that you have to okay this is. normal my daughter's ordering wine at. dinner but she's of age like I don't. know does that is was that ever strange. for for you you know what I remember.

when you guys were getting a little bit. older and my girlfriend used to say she. used to get so mad at me because she. felt like I wasn't Tough Enough I wasn't. the disciplinarian that she was or that. she thought was appropriate and I would. say to her but I want to do this my way. you know well these aren't your friends. they're you're you know you're too much. of a friend you're not the parent I said. oh no I'm the parent but I didn't you. know carry these kids around for 9. months in my body and then give birth to.

them and raise them and come this far. and now they're young adults or they're. you know going to be a teenager soon to. just let it all go and just be their. parent and then it that would and that's. the end these are going to be my. soulmates for the rest of my life I want. to be able. to find our own Lovel anguage with each. one of my kids because you guys are all.

so different but yet we have a thread. we're all so alike and I think that. that's what makes us so close is we love. each other so much but that was always. the lesson you know I always said God. first family second and everything else. comes after that and I taught you and. raised you like that we went to church. and we you know I took you to Bible. study when you were a toddler and when. you got a little bit older and tried to. instill those types of belief and.

spirituality because I think it's a huge. part of growing up and it's how we live. our lives now we believe in God and we. say our prayers and you have Bible study. at your house on Thursday nights with. your kids and all the cousins and I. think prayer is so important in our. family and we all pray a lot about. everything and I really think that's an. important part of who we all are and. then I think that just our love language. My love language with each one of you is.

just a little bit different and I find. that seeing each one of you and letting. you be who you are while at the same. time you know that I'm your safety net. well you do an excellent job at that and. it's hard it is hard but I think the. hardest part would be when your kids. start dating. I think by Nature I was a very welcoming. person to whoever you guys brought home.

yes whether it was a stray cat or a guy. from fourth grade or as you guys got. older you know it was the dating. suddenly you were dating and the. challenges that come with that. definitely. um tested. my you know ability to control my temper. sometimes I'd be so mad that you guys. would try to pull the stuff that you. would pull or the dating that you tried. to do until I think you realized we're.

all good bring everybody here and we. became the house that everybody liked to. hang out at when you guys would become. very close to somebody we welcome them. into our family with open arms we have. the time of our lives we're close we. have very intimate you know. relationships with all of the people in. our family and the people that you guys. are dating and it's really fun but when. you guys break up with somebody I feel. like I break up with somebody totally I. it's so I think we all for me you know I.

feel like wow this was such a crazy time. in our lives I can't believe they're not. here anymore because sometimes I get. caught up in your joy or your desire to. want to build yourself your life your. family and then when it doesn't work out. I'm heartbroken too you know when. something breaks your heart it breaks my. heart but you're also very forgiven. because we can be like so and so is a.

piece did X Y and Z and then we're like. we're never talking to them again and. then next week we're like okay we're. back with this person and you're like. okay yeah here we go yeah and you're. very forgiving where I would be like I. might kill that person you have to be. you you know what it's the what did they. say the only person when you get really. angry with somebody or you get you know. you build up all this hatred towards. somebody the only person that's really. hurting is yourself. I remember when I was I want to say 15 I.

didn't have a license yet and I stole. Bruce's Expedition and I was driving on. the 101 by the 405 like right where it. crosses over and it's like a little turn. anyway so I guess I swerved a little and. I got pulled over and I was wearing a. really cute skirt from Forever 21 course. you were and um I I'll mention why. remember that skirt and um I remember.

the police officer was like what's can I. have your license and you know. registration and I said oh I don't have. my license but my name is I think I said. Courtney Kardashian but my birthday is. and I gave Kim's birthday so of course. they were like you're lying get out of. the car I got taken to jail I remember. that so I went to jail and they called. you MH and it was I don't know like or. 10 at night M and I was just they took.

me there I didn't go to jail like they. took me to a Precinct or whatever just. until you came to pick me up and they. impounded the car and you were like. what's wrong with you you're D look at. the short skirt you're wearing you look. like you could have been a hooker but. this is all private like in front of. everyone you were like oh she's a great. girl like you were so sweet like H. teenagers I don't know why she did that. or sisters whatever you said they let us. go like with a warning you didn't tell. Bruce that we impounded his car for 30.

days and somehow we made up some story. cuz you were like I'm not remember he. couldn't get the car the next day and. he's like where's my Escalade oh it had. a scratch I took it right to the shop. but to me you were like you I can't. believe you did yeah you were like. cussing me out I was on punishment but. you kept it from Bruce and I was always. like that was really nice of you that. was really cool of you that you did that. you guys showed me a lot of respect so.

even though you were probably shaking. because that was a horrible thing to go. through and scared of what I might do or. how I would react you know my my. temperature you know you know that when. I get really mad and get in the car you. know you're dead get in the car I'm. gonna you know that I don't mean any of. that you just know that because you know. me your mom and I'm going to get in the. car and we're going to laugh about it. one day did you ever think you would be. working with all of your children and. not only working with them but cuz it.

started out the clothing stores and us. working together but then managing like. their careers and everything and. basically guiding their Futures I think. the way that our lives. unfolded is one of the best things. that I've ever I could have ever dreamt. of and it was like the perfect storm and. did I see it coming no I think the way.

it all unfolded. was The Perfect Storm and I think that. it was started out because I needed to. pay the bills and it ended up because. we're working with our favorite people. and having the time of our lives to this. day I get excited about getting up in. the morning and what we're going to do. today because I feel like every day we. have a different job or we're working. for a different company you know we're. always filming our show and the right. over there those Kardashian people the.

filmers but I can't I guess I could. never also have imagined it to even. include another generation which is so. amazing like now my. grandchildren get to shoot with us or. film with us or even just if they don't. want to film be in the room like it's. the kind of thing where we can all work. together I also think our Dynamic at the. beginning like it was. challenging I know more so for court and. I. to for you to be our manager at first.

because we were like what are you. talking like you're not going to boss us. around like we were like what we don't. even want to do this like at first when. you guys were like when you and Kim like. we're going to film a show and you guys. have to be on it court and I were like. no we're not we don't want to be on this. show you you guys were like no you're. going to be on the show yeah we're on. the show and we're doing a show and it. just sort of happened and you were like. it's only going to be one season it's. not a big deal just do the show and we. just did it but then then when you were. like our manager and telling us what to. do and where to go and it was hard for.

us to differentiate mom and then a. manager it was hard at for I would say. the first few years to be like okay. she's ordering me around or telling me. to do this but not as my mom because we. would be defensive or like yeah what are. you doing like it was I think Kim and. you always had a very easy Rapport and. respect and this and I had respect for. you as my mom but I was like you are not.

my boss like that's was my yeah just my. attitude towards you until I had to. realize okay she's this is know this is. manager Chris well I had to put you in. two different categories until I think. our relationship really became very. seamless once I had kids and it was. always a great relationship but the. management mom role was always very hard. for me. to just. sometimes if I wanted to talk to you.

about manager stuff you would be. defensive which one is my mom today but. it would be hard or or you would want to. talk about work when we're at dinner and. I'm like no like that's not what I want. to do right now so it's always no we had. we definitely had to figure it out yeah. the transition of that was definitely. and when to turn it off that was always. hard for me but I don't think I've ever. learned how to turn when I get on a. rooll that's always been one of my you. know not yeah well I it's it's hard for.

me to turn things off because I get so. excited about stuff and that to me is. like the the you know if we're at dinner. that's my dessert let's talk about. passion for everything in life you're a. very passionate person but I just don't. want people thinking oh working with fam. is a breeze and this it's it's not it. just there are challenges for sure all. the time I think it takes a minute. to be comfortable in those roles and. know people's positions and learn to not.

take things so seriously and put them in. that work role as you would if you had a. legit boss that it's hard when when I. get angry at somebody if somebody. doesn't show up or cancels or can't do. it or doesn't want to do it or you know. really up I I inside I'm going crazy and. then you know I'm singing stormy song. Patience like I'm losing my mind but on. the side and on the outside I'm trying. to be you know professional if it's a.

professional setting and go okay this is. what needs to be done because like I. said I'm solution based but whether it's. teaching you how to tie your shoes or. teaching you how to create a new. business you know that's I we've had so. many different I feel like I've had nine. lives you have and all these different. decades and different chapters but I. think the best thing about every one of. your lives is one of your biggest. strengths I would say and you have many.

would be your ability to nurture and. curate these relationships from every. different life that you've had and. you've never let them go and you have. this Rolodex of people that you can call. rely on ask for something and they ask. you the same like you've you've really. I'm not great at nurturing relationships. I'm like I'm I'm busy I got k like I. don't have time to chitchat and go to. dinners and do that and I don't know how.

on Earth you have time but you do and. even if you don't you make people feel. so loved and seen and that they're so. important to you and and I think that's. why I think that's something that people. can all take away it doesn't matter what. world you're in but whatever that world. is make sure that you do nurture those. relationships and that you you never. burn a bridge and that every bridge you. can walk back over at some point in life. because we're all to need to and I know. that when I'm like I want to do this or.

let's start this business or do that. you're like I know someone that is an. expert in that field let me call them. and let's get advice from that every. single person I if I I could name 50. people and I know you know every single. one of them or there's someone that. knows that person and you can always. reach out to those people you've never. burned a bridge and I think that and if. you have burned a bridge it was wasn't. worth going back over anyways like it's. very intentional and that is something.

that I really admire and I feel I hope. that when my kids get older and I have a. little more energy at the end of the day. that I will be able to do the same. because it's such an amazing gift to do. that because it is it takes energy your. friends your girlfriends are super. important in your life they play such a. huge important role and I think you. don't realize that until you do get. older but I think that I think I've. taught you that because you've said to. me numerous times how you and your.

friends sit and say I want to be like my. mom and her friends because you know. she's got these great girlfriends and I. think that's a really rich rewarding. important part of life as you get older. because you do share ups and downs and. as you get older you lose a lot of. people and you know life gets sad at. times that you didn't have those. experiences when you were younger so if. you. and and and the fact that you guys all. have each other is amazing you and your.

siblings are so close and you might be. closer to one than the other through the. years you might be you know this year. you're closer to Kim and next year it'll. be Courtney and then it'll be Rob and. then you know all always a different um. beautiful delicious loving relationship. but it's always a little bit different. and. relationships change just like you know. from time to time they just they they. change but nothing changes about the.

love language you know you find that. that really great way to be and have. that relationship at least for me with. each one of you because you're all so. different and we have different like. people say to me who's your. favorite well today my favorite's Chloe. because I'm on the podcast and wait I do. have of course I have a favorite every a. different favorite every day you might. be weird you might be my favorite for 30. days in a row that's weird but it's not.

weird it's like I'm so in love with Rob. this month like I'm spending all my time. with Rob and Rob and I are working on. this or we're doing your favorite is. you're vibing so much with Rob this. month well I'm just saying favorite is a. silly word okay but I I mean it lightly. I mean who am I hanging out with right. now who am I connecting with who am I. exchanging ideas with and cre creting. with and being passionate with who wants. like Kendall and I will sit and talk.

about design ideas because she's working. on something for days you know or. Courtney who can't even pick a paint. color you know will drive me up a wall. because she can't get into the process. of it so I'll talk to her about. something else and I think it's really. when your kids are teenagers learning. how to pay attention to what their. interests are and what how to help them. find their path passion I have a random.

question for you. because you were married twice very. long-term marriages and then you start. dating like how weird was that for you. because we're adults yes but like was. that weird like I can't seem to date. because of my young kids like I'm like I. don't want to expose them to that right. is it different when cuz you dated after. my dad to meet Bruce. obviously what is weirder I would think.

when they're adults cuz they're judging. well it's weird when they're adults. because if you're adult children don't. get along with your significant other or. the person you're dating it's never. going to work was Corey not like I'm. going to obviously I'm sure when he met. you he knew obviously that you have six. kids I think three of them were with me. when I the night I met him in Spain but. yeah I think it was pretty well known. that I have yeah six kids and that. doesn't I mean doesn't throw anyone off.

not throw Corey off I think he you know. loves you guys for me yet no I think. when you're. listen if one of us is with a partner. we're kind of all with that partner I. mean it's like all for one and one for. all we all have to kind of decide like. it would be in our family I'm talking. about our situation I'm not saying this. is the way everybody should be but we're.

pretty connected and we're pretty. intuitive of one another's feelings and. our energies and I think if somebody if. we feel like one of us you know is in. the wrong relationship we're pretty. vocal about it and I think. that we know that we just want each. other to be happy and we're all we all. spend all of our time together so for us. it would never work. if you know there was friction with the. kids I don't remember the first time I.

met Corey I just remember the first time. I knew you were talking to someone and. cuz you were smiling and texting and. being weird and I'm like what the I know. that face and I'm like who are you. texting and you're like this guy I met. andh it was just just to see you that. Giddy and smiley and happy it was really. cute but I don't remember the first time. I physically met him um but has been. around for over 10 years or 10 years. almost 11 years and he hasn't left yet.

with all of our craziness Cory was. somebody also that had been in his. career had worked with a high-profile. person and he was very well aware of how. a life like this goes and that's true. all the things that came with it and we. would walk into a restaurant in another. country and walk into the you know the. George sonk in Paris and they would go.

Corey you know and whisk us right back. into the table that you know blah blah. blah and through the kitchen so we could. get out of there and you know he you. know he knew all about security and all. about all the drivers and seemed to know. everybody in LA and everybody in my life. and it was a very safe feeling to be. able to date someone who you didn't have. to explain how our life worked I know. that's a weird thing to say but and. unrelatable it was my reality and I felt.

really comfortable with the fact that I. didn't have to make excuses for our. lifestyle or for the way we lived and. explain it to him he was explaining it. to me and he was making my life easier. and saying oh my god let's do that and. then we travel really well together and. all we did was travel we still that's. all we do is we're going here going. there you guys do it's amazing and. working and and he knows that if I'm. going to be in another country and you. know if we're trying to do something fun.

I'm still going to be working at 2: a.m. and I have to set an alarm and do this. and do that and he helps you know. facilitate he doesn't try to control you. he lets you be you and he makes it. easier to be me but it is interesting. that he has no kids and he's with. someone that has the most kids and. grandkids and we're always together does. he ever get annoyed that were no I'm. always cuz we're neighbors so I just. walk on in and I'm like hey Cory sitting. on the couch eating like watching TV and.

I'm like sorry just going to go see my. mom like I'm sure he's like what the. someone he doesn't care he never says he. does he's never he would never I'm sure. deep down he's like what the no he's. he's proud of you guys I mean he's been. around long enough to see you know a lot. of the things that you guys do and how. passionate you are and how hard you work. and you know nothing's handed to you. nothing and he sees and respects that. and talks about that and just admires.

how much everybody has so much just. focus and vision and creativity and I. think that anybody who's watching from. the inside which is very few people get. to really see how we are. daytoday and I think it is amazing for. somebody like him to sit back and say. wow this is in this is incredible I have. a very serious question what oh God what. who's my favorite no okay I wouldn't ask.

such a thing uhhuh what makes a great. Martini oh now we're talking yeah now. you've got my number yeah a great. Martini is shaken not stirred okay it's. putting a generous amount of vodka in a. metal martini shaker with about six ice. cubes six shake shake shake until it. it's freezing cold straining it into the.

glass you don't always need to strain if. I'm in a hurry you pour it directly into. the glass two. olives and enjoy it's just a glass of of. vodka that's what that isas well it's. typically with vermouth right but yours. is straight up Vodka it's straight up. but if you go to a restaurant and say I. want a martini they're going to say do. you want blue cheese. or regular gross and you I don't like.

blue cheese you want. regular at least that's the way I drink. them yours is just vodka just say can I. have a shot of vodka that's what I would. say no it's it's about the. experience you have to like hold the. martini glass think Frank Sinatra music. oh love you know what I mean get into. the everything's an experience this was. an experience just like the Martine. experience. oh my God thank you thank you.