Part 1 ft. Kim Kardashian | Khloé In Wonder Land

Hi. I'm so excited from the second we. decided we were going to do this. You. said it has to be juicy. Like no one. better see these texts or we're all. canceled. I know. Was there ever a. moment that you didn't want something. filmed? >> When I said that whole thing, she's. like, "You have to take this out. You. look insane." I go, "In fact." Was there. ever a time you thought your reputation. might not survive something? >> I just thought like our careers were. over. I brought us up by taking us right. down. Do you ever remember celebrities.

that were rude to you? >> Let's talk about some of the AI dating. rumors. >> Is this not insane? >> Does it bother you the scrutiny that you. get for the way that you allow North to. express herself? She knew what she. wanted since the moment she came out. >> You're really the first celebrity to. openly stage paparazzi shots. >> knew where they were. >> Right. So, you would just go. >> It was cool to be desperate back then. I. lived for it. Let's talk about some of the.

crazy conspiracies, the Kardashian. curse. Ooh, I love a conspiracy. Hi. I'm so excited to be on your. podcast. >> Oh, well, I'm so excited to have you. here. >> From the second we decided we were going. to do this, we both, but specifically you said and. it has to be juicy. Well, yeah, cuz I. feel like it's obviously weird coming. from you cuz you know all these stories.

You know my whole life. You know. everything that you're going to ask me. But let's just like juice it up and have. a cute combo. And that's what it is. It's a conversation. I'm not just going. to be spitting questions at you, but. like feel free to talk back with me. I'll talk back to you. >> Oh god, I love when you talk back. And. I'm going to ease you into it. >> Okay. You know, we'll do foreplay. Okay. >> bit. I know how you like to get down. What's the last text you sent? Ooh.

Oh, to to North just about. her engineer is on his way. Ooh, okay. >> I text that right before I sat down. You. love the notes section in your phone. I. do. >> You do. You're a big girly. You want me. to open them up? Oh, I just want to know. what was the last note you wrote in your. phone. A birthday party list. Oh, yes. You know I love a party. We've been. going with that today. Name of the most. used group chat in your phone. Oh, the. bat chat. Bat chat.

>> chat. It's you, La La, Tracy, and me, and Steph. >> Mhm. I think it's been going for what? At least 5 years strong? Yeah. I think. so. It's been a while. >> we will be canceled. >> just call me on the bat phone. Yep. Like. cuz like no one better see these texts. or we're all canceled. I know. We're all. [ __ ] It's like a place to really let. it out. Just talk about anything and. everything. Judgment free. Yeah. Yeah.

It really is. Like a safe zone. It's really crazy cuz like I know we're. beyond the days of like going through. people's phones and people going through. our phones. I feel like that just isn't. a thing when you're in your 40s. >> Okay. >> Right? Like going through a boyfriend's. phone? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So like, but if they were smart, they. wouldn't be like looking for guys in the. phone. They'd go straight to the the. group chat. >> Well, that's where all The girls chat. But take note for people in their 20s. wanting to go through someone's phone. >> Yeah, go for their group chats. Go for.

the guys group chats. Go for the girl Go. Go Just go for the group chat. >> Yeah. No one is really talking in a solo. session. Yeah, or like you're not really. going to find anything. You want to know. everything, that's where you go. I learned about. this um. one of our friends last night told me. about you know in Mean Girls, they have. the burn book? Mhm. >> There's this website that's for. people anonymously It's like a do what.

type of thing, but it's about dating and. you anonymously will be like, "Your. boyfriend sent me a dick pic." And like. they put it up and they expose different. people, but it's all in the gay. community. It is the most salacious website. >> Simon Huck told you this. Oh my god, I. wasn't going to out him. I was I was. like, "That is fascina- It's just like. there's a different world.". >> It's a different world. It was. fascinating. I loved every What were you. guys doing at the end of the table? You. didn't hear that conversation? >> No. Oh, that was amazing. I learned a. lot last night. The first photo in your.

camera roll and the last photo, if you remember. >> Oh, well, the I mean, the first one has. to be from years and years and 15 years. ago. However long ago that was. >> one, I think is of me and Bernard, the. dog. The boxer? My old dog? That's who I. thought was Bernard. No, I had a boxer. named Bernard with Lamar. Did? The most. recent photo in my phone for sure is a. picture of Beyoncé with her beautiful.

like goldeny locks, like this hair do. that's like so gorgeous that I. want to do my hair like a golden color. I did it once. It's like a honey I love. that honey color. >> Yeah. Speaking of hair, what does your. natural hair look like? Ooh, I like this. question. Okay, my hair is like your. length, exactly. If I blew out my hair, that's exactly what it would look like. It would be cute. I wear it every time.

it's in a bun. That's like my hair. I. love extensions and all the things. I. think people were like. really. confused when like Chris Appleton did my. hair once and it was like platinum. blonde and we. slicked it back in a bun and then glued. tracks over cuz I just didn't want my. real hair that blonde getting like. exposed, but people were like What's. happening? >> confused. But I have had some like. serious hair health journeys.

And so, I do like all the things to. make sure that it's as healthy as. possible. You wore it well. >> and downs. The red light hat, every. serum you could possibly imagine, every. >> like the rice What was it? The rice. water? You're like I'll be cooking it. for days. >> I'm like, "Kim, you do it and then. you're on to the next thing.". Everything in a shampoo, but like it. works. You know, I'll do like the stem. cell injections in my scalp, like.

everything to make sure that it's as as. possible. Yeah, but you just love a. beauty treatment. You love to. experiment. If you could only pick one beauty. treatment for the rest of your life, Ooh. >> do you have a favorite? I mean, Botox. probably. >> one. Or just like a really good facial. by Shani. Yeah. I love a Oh, I love a. red light situation. >> a tough one. That pod you have to get, the longevity pod. >> I know. >> You really, really do. I do want to talk.

about Kardashian Closet a little bit. because I feel like we get a lot of hate. for Kardashian Closet. >> We do. But I think you should explain. the backstory and the foundation of it. and why it's so important because of CC. Yeah. And so, our cousin CC is fashion. obsessed. I know you know this, but like. she her dream of life was to go to a. fashion show. And when she finished some. chemo, you know, she's been battling. cancer for like 30 years. And sometimes it gets really, really bad.

and so she can't um it's in her lymph. nodes, so she can't probably work as. regular. And she she loves fashion. She. would want a job in fashion. So, she. would always ask us like, "What do you. guys do with your stuff when you're. finished wearing it? Like can I start a. site?" And we'll start I don't know if. you remember, but Courtney and I and. maybe you were going to open up a store. before Dash called Poor Little Rich. Girl. Mhm. We trademarked it. It was. going to be consignment clothes, like.

designer clothes, before The RealReal, before all of those like stores. This. was like before Dash. So, we've always. had closets and closets full of like. stuff that we wanted to purge and get. rid of. You know, nice stuff that you. >> wear once and spend a lot of money on. it. So, CC put together this site. She. now employs a team of people and has an. office and they photograph everything. and they ship it out and it's like a. site like The RealReal in a small way of. just our things. But it's funny because.

people we know and our friends shop on. it all the time and love it. And the. stuff is great and like vintage sites. have bought off of it and told me when. they buy things. So, Well, it's really a. beautiful story because CC, you know, I. think that we all are really hard. working women and I think we know that. when you have something to get up and to. work for, you feel so much better about. yourself. And CC, >> in chemo and radiation and all the. things, there were days that she.

couldn't work as consistently and other. days she really wanted to get out and do. something. And so, by her having this. job, she said it really gave her a will. to fight. It makes her feel good about. things. Of course. >> off of every sale. And so, of course, we. can easily give to The RealReal. We can. easily sell on a third-party site, but. we do so on our own because we want to. give to CC and make CC feel good and. like that she has something do every day.

and it gives her a purpose. Yeah, purpose. And so, I love that we do that. And Me, too. >> talk, they just talk, but they don't. understand that there's so much story. and history behind it. And listen, like. I used to take my stuff back in the day. I didn't have the money. So, like if I. wanted to buy new things, I would have. to sell things. >> eBay. Yeah. And I used to sell. everything on eBay and that's kind of. how I feel like you know, we're still on. budgets. We still like have things that. we try to be responsible with and so.

like if I sell some things and make a. certain amount then I can, you know, buy. with that. I still budget my life out. and love living like that. Let's talk. about our parenting styles. Yeah. Where. do you think you and I are alike and. where do you think we're different? >> Hmm. I think you're really strict. And I love. that and you're very structured. I don't. think you're strict actually, that's the. wrong word. I think you're just very. scheduled and micromanaged. Thank you. >> To the moment. >> I agree with that.

>> So I actually think you're lenient. I. think your kids are a little too young. for you to feel what it's like when one. of them wants to be extremely expressive. in a different way than you would. >> Mhm. I agree with that. I don't know. what teenagers are like. But don't you. think North, I'm trying to remember, at. like 7 or 8, I felt like she still was. very, like she knew what she wanted at. that age, too. She knew what she wanted. since the moment she was born. She was. born getting born to. the song Bohemian Rhapsody.

>> god. >> talk about this all the time. Kanye was. DJing. So he put on Bohemian Rhapsody. for the moment she came out and isn't it. so her? Kourtney and I like cry laughing. thinking of this moment. >> of just like. >> I was in the room. I don't remember. that. >> Yeah. And how it's just so like. her. >> North. You know? Isn't that such a weird fact? >> song. Yeah. >> Yeah, I love that song by the way. >> Yeah. >> Like when I listen to it I just like.

get a mosh. I didn't remember that. >> Yeah, Kourtney remembers every detail. Her memory I didn't remember it and it's. something that I would have written in. the book. So I asked Kourtney years ago. like, "Hey, what was the song in all the. rooms that I I like to write all the. memories and just have random facts.". And she's like, "You don't remember? It. was Bohemian Rhapsody.". >> She's nuts. She does remember. everything. Yeah. And I was like, "Of. course it was." Being. a mom of older older kids, like.

teenagers, do you. wish you did something different when. they were younger? I treat my two older. kids a little bit, um I have like. stricter rules for my two little kids. and so my two older kids have devices, my two little kids don't. It's. interesting, your first kid, your first. two kids, they're like growing up with. you. We're figuring it all out together. And then you learn and you realize you. want to maybe do things differently and. and luckily I have, you know, Chi and.

Psalm that like I could try that with. and like that's really worked for us, but like maybe at this age the other. kids had a phone, so it's like a little. bit unfair, but it's the rules and. >> They don't know the difference, though. >> I'm stricter now, but. >> that Saint and North had a phone at that. age. >> Exactly. Well, they tell them. >> Well, but that's. >> They know. That's their word versus I'm. going to look No, totally. Prove it. But. it's it's I wouldn't like change. anything. I think like I have such a. great relationship with my kids. They.

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get for the way that maybe you allow. North to express herself? >> do you think that's fair? I'm just not a. judgmental person like that, so I try. not to pay attention to it, but I think. that no one knows unless they're in my. shoes of what I'm dealing with and how. we have to manage certain things from. the outside world or even close in our. life that we have to go through. together. So I think like the one miss-.

conception that people might have is. like, "Oh, she's trying to be her bestie. and lets her get away with a lot." Like. no, Northy actually has a lot of rules. The one area is I do let her express. herself and I do let her do that. I love. her for that and she would do it, you. know, regardless. She's been It's funny. like people are like, "Oh, this blue. hair, all of this all of a sudden" or. like her fake piercings that she puts up. or her, you know,

I have pictures of her when we're in. first grade, pre-K, where she'd come with like a fake. septum ring and she has her green braids. and she has pink braids and but she's. always loved the colored braids in her. hair since she was little. Like she. really is who she is and always has been. that girl. Unapologetically. >> And so like I nurture her. She is is. homeschooled and a lot of it is me. helping her do a lot of the teachings.

and the things that we do, but we do a. lot of realistic courses. Things that. she's really into. Math, we'll get. budgets and we'll go around and we'll. get stuff and we'll add it all up and. subtract it all and we'll she has a. brand building class, you know, it's. like an actual course and a curriculum. >> learning than textbook learning. >> learning. And so she wanted she had an. idea of making hats and making jewelry. and all the things she wanted to make, so we made it a course and she has to do. the web design and she has to do the.

budgeting and she has to go to the to. the stores and get materials and sewing. and we do like full fashion courses and. she goes to. in the summers like to FIT in New York. and goes to fashion camp, you know, and. loves these more interactive experiences. and so I nurture her, but it's a. full-time job even for me and her. teacher and I think people don't realize. like. I'm with her and the kids 24/7 and it's.

like I've now added like a teacher to my. role cuz she wants me involved in all. the things. And you know, I took like the last 6. months off to be able to really do that. and do her courses and get the. curriculum from her teachers and be. there in the room with her and it's been. a lot and it's been so fun to see her. blossom and and even like her music. course at school, she'd do a regular. like music course and learn certain. things, but at home she'll do an 8-hour. music studio session where she's.

producing, writing, and a part of you. know, I'll add her writing out all of. her lyrics as a part of her, you know, spelling tests. And we do all of the. things at home that she really enjoys. and are challenging and I think they. would be like proud to see like how. smart she really is and how creative she. really is. And I can only dream. that my children all find a passion and. a purpose. as young as she has. Well, and I think. it's really. inspiring and beautiful the way that you.

do nurture her passions and that you are. so accepting of them. Like she's 12 and. I know she loves producing and she's. doing that now and you encourage that. And I think I know on Alex Cooper you. talked a little bit about you and Yay's. relationship and where you guys stand. now and I think it's important to say. you and Yay have really. bonded over.

North's. producing. You guys are now in a much. better place. Yeah. And I think that, you know, I'm a really empathetic person. I mean, at the end of the day, we're always. family. I always look at it that way, no matter. what's going on. There are times when I have to be super. protective and there are times when, you. know, at any moment I would love that. relationship and I've always talked. about that. The music side and the. producing isn't my thing and that's her.

bonding thing with her dad, but even. just like coming up with stuff we have. to communicate about. how North like moves through that world. and all these like opportunities that. come her way and having to filter that. and like respecting his opinion on the. things that go on with his really. important. So, yeah, I think, you know, >> good at doing that. I think it's. important for the kids. You just kind of. have to put all the other stuff aside.

Do your kids still sleep in your room? They do. I don't think there's anything. wrong with that. I know you always want. to like apologize for that, but Lala's. in town and she loves to sleep in my. room. I have this like massive bed and. everyone's like, "Why doesn't she sleep. in the guest room?" And Saint was just. like at my door like, "This is not fair. I'm going to sleep in between you guys. or I'm going to sleep. >> with Kim and like literally I remember. Kim was like, "I have to go.". He heard me saying like, "Oh, I'm going. to Paris with your mom." And he's like,

"How many days I need to approve this?". He needs to He needs to know my whole. schedule like how many days am I going. to be gone? He always like cries when I. leave, like calls me every time we have. a Life360. That he hears your voice. >> Oh, when I leave, I make my kids this. like little, you know, the like. recording device that's in a. Build-A-Bear. I got like the heart that. like just the recorder and I leave the. messages like, "I love you so much. I'm. going to be back soon.".

And I leave them like I'll say a prayer. cuz he likes we say our prayers together. every night. So, one is just like a. prayer that they can play on repeat if. our timing is off or something. They. love them and they play plays. He keeps. it in his pocket when he is like out. And it's so cute to see. >> with you. It's so cute. >> Bey talk about you're obsessed with. them. Life360. Oh, yeah. That's what. it's called. We have a Life360 app. Obviously, the only kids with a device. like North and Saint and myself. Saint. will be checking it and he'll just be. like, "Mom, you know, you're here. When.

are you going to head home? I see you're. here. Mom, did you land? I see on the. app like you're just landing or are are. you on the plane yet?" He makes me text. him when I take off, when I land. It's. so cute. It's so cute. Let's talk about. the show a little bit. Mhm. When you. look back, do you ever watch old. episodes? I don't really. No, but I'm. not like opposed to it. When you see. that the first 20 seasons are coming. back on Hulu. >> Hulu. When you see old clips I love it.

>> You love it? >> it. >> to say, do you cringe? Are you like. >> No, sometimes I'm like sometimes there's. cringey moments, but like other than. that, it's like the best home movies. Like so well shot. Like we have so much. documented. It's really So much of it. over It's been like 20 years. Yeah. And. so much of it I forget that we even did. We were all in Idaho and it was just on. TV, the old Keeping Up. And random stuff. was just on TV and I was like, "When did. we ever do this?" There's no.

recollection. I think we just filmed so. much, but think about having literally. every single day of your life filmed for. like 15 years and it's just there. Don't. even want to know what's on the editing. floor. Who knows? Was there ever a. moment that you didn't want something. filmed, but they filmed it and it turned. out for the better? I think. I know a few. Really? >> Like the Bentley fight. I don't think at. the time It's funny like Mom and. Courtney like want us like pull back a.

lot and I'm just like, "Why?" Let it go. Courtney when I said, "I got married in Italy.". You She got married in Italy. When I. said that whole thing, she's like, "You. look like a lunatic. You have to take this out. We just You. look insane." I go, "Perfect. Put it on. It's It's making it." And I was She's. like, "No, no, I'm telling you like. sister to sister, you look crazy." And I. was like, "Good." I love it. >> Like I can really step back and look.

like from a producer's eye. I like the. fight. >> The slapping fight. >> Oh, yeah. Mom was like, "This can never. see the light of day." She was freaking. out and I was like, "You're not in it. So, it is making the cut." I don't care. Oh, yeah, they do. >> Let's talk about some of the AI dating. rumors. Is this not insane? >> It's insane. >> no. Insane. You want to know the most. craziest one that people I think thought. was real? Which one? There is a.

basketball player that I think got. traded to the Lakers, Luka. There was. like an fake. tweet or comment on Instagram. I don't. know where it came from, but it was. like, "Hi, you're coming to LA. I want. to learn from you Slovakian or whatever. language." Who knows? And then there was. either I don't know if you really. thought it was me and then he replied. or if it was like a fake reply. I don't. know at this point, but mine was so. fake. Okay. And it looks like I'm.

hitting on this guy. I haven't gone to a. Laker game since. Rob sent Stop. Because. of that, Rob sent me. >> Not really because of that, but. >> Victor Wembanyama. Rob was like, "You're. dating" I think he's like 19 or 20, some. 19 or 20-year-old basketball player. I. was like, "Not that I know of." Oh, and. it's the whole story. of him and I. Yeah. AI photos is insane. There was a photo, an AI photo of me and. Kevin Durant. Yeah. And was like, "If. there is ever a basketball player that I. would date, he's the one." And it said.

all this stuff like a a real quote from. me with a picture. And I'm like, "I. That's absolutely just not true and I. never said that." It's insane. AI is. getting out of control. There was even. this quote that said, "I would have been. a billionaire sooner if Jay-Z was my. husband." Or something like I don't. remember and I was like, "Who comes up with these fake quotes? How do you stop them?" Cuz once you send. like a cease and desist, it's like all.

these other people have posted it. >> But even like you said, you sometimes. second-guess like the tweets. Like some. You're like, "Wait, I have to Oh, yeah. I didn't think mine was real. I didn't think mine was real. >> No, I don't think that, but then you're. like, "What is real versus what's fake?". Like even. the AI photos or there is I think a. video I sent you. It was either of you. or of North talking and I sent it to you. and you were like, "That is so AI." Like. they're so real some of them and it's. really up. No, it's insane. I don't like.

it. The dancing ones we like though. Yeah. Those are funny. >> send. the stupidest dancing videos and she. laughs until like. >> "I am crying." No, streaming down your. face and it's very cute, but we're like, "Okay.". But last night you and Kylie were dying. over some of those. >> Kylie and I were laughing. I'm like, "Please recreate Please try." And she's. like, "I don't know if I could even do. this move." So funny. Do you think. people would be surprised that you. listen to Taylor Swift? I think I've. said it. I think people would be.

surprised. Surprised? Yeah, I mean, it's just I. have her like some of her older songs in. my. playlist. I've always thought she's like. a super talented, great artist. And do. you like country music? Love country. music. >> Who's your favorite country? >> I'll always be a Shania Twain girl. You. do love Shania. I really do. And then. like I love Carrie Underwood. I love all. of those you did. Right? I always She. just came on my playlist like Wasn't it.

LeAnn Rimes? Love LeAnn Rimes. That was. my song. I remember being in your car on. the way to Arizona driving to Courtney. to college. and I was like CDs at the time. Yes. CD. singles. So, I only had the single of. LeAnn Rimes. >> The CD book that we had to keep popping. Yeah, I still have it. I still have the. CD book. You're really the first. celebrity to openly stage paparazzi. shots. Mhm. Talk about how,

when and why you started doing that. Okay, it's not like. we would know where they were. And so, yeah. And so, when you. >> Yeah. Vote for Kim was like the first. That was the taste So, Kim did Dancing. with the Stars. 2006 or 7, something like that. >> Something like that. And Season 3, I. think. >> walk down Robertson Boulevard. Definitely not season 7. No, of of. Dancing with the Stars. >> Oh, I was like, please. No, we knew like.

we wanted people to vote for me. So, I. we made vote for Kim t-shirts and we. would walk down Robertson. >> So, people see us. Like you knew where. they were. So, you would just go make. that huge. >> Totally. >> was a like a It was cool to be desperate. back then. >> It is all I wanted. I lived for it. Like. there was times I told I mean I said. this story once where Jonathan and I.

went we were at a restaurant and we. heard these people I Jonathan just like. sees everything like online and was. like, "Oh, Britney Spears is staying at. this hotel in New York." So, this person. at dinner had this like crazy Phantom. Rolls-Royce. Jonathan and I could hardly. even get a cab, you know? So, we're. like, "Oh, can we get a ride to our. hotel?" And the guy's like, "Yeah." And. Jonathan and I like, "We'll sit in the. back. You sit in the front." So, it. looks like we got out with a driver. Oh. my god. >> At this hotel and we got out paparazzi.

everywhere waiting for Britney, you. know, at her hotel. They weren't. following us at this point or who knows, maybe they were. But they come out and. they're like, "Kim, Kim, Kim, are you. here to visit Britney? Are you here?". And Jonathan's like, "Keep your head. down and just like Shut up. So, we go. inside, we go in a phone booth cuz we're. like, we don't know anyone at this. hotel. We don't even know if there's. like a hotel bar for us to walk in. We go and like hang in the phone in the. phone booth in this hotel for like 20. minutes and then we're like, "All right,

let's go out." And then we come out and. they're like, "Kim, how was Britney? How. was Britney?" And Jonathan and I are. like, you know, we just like walked in the. took a cab, I think, from that point cuz. this Rolls-Royce person dropped us off, but they weren't going to take pictures. of us like getting in, so we. totally scammed the system. >> scammed the system and it was like on. every cover and we thought we were. killing it. >> Well, you guys were back then. >> a time and and one time Jonathan was. like, "You have got to stop smiling.

Like Victoria Beckham never smiles." So, we'd like walk out of like Intermix on. Robertson and he would be like, "Victoria Victoria." And I'd be like, "Oh, get it together." Okay. And I'd. like stop smiling cuz I'd be like, "Hi. guys." You know, to the to the paps and. he'd be like, "Victoria." And I'd be. like, "Oh, get it together." Yeah. Well, you segued this perfectly. I have a. guest that's coming. Who? Welcome, Jonathan. I'm just kidding. Oh, I was like, "No.

way. I loved We should have called him.". >> he would have loved to have been here. That was a big mistake on my part. >> That was crazy. I I love Jonathan. We should call him. We should. Call Jonathan. >> people think we don't talk, you know? Hello. Hey. What are you doing? Sexy look. Thank. you. >> I want you to go to dinner in Miami. We. were just talking about you. >> talking about good or bad? >> We're on the We're doing Khloe's.

podcast. How's Jonathan? And I'm like, I. love Jonathan. Hold on, I'm calling him. Do you need proof of life? I'm in Miami, actually. It's like 80° out here. Oh my. god. Just chill. I'm at like a nice. dinner and it's like a brand new. restaurant here in Coral Gables. >> Nice. Uh How's the podcast going? It's. good. We just wanted to give you a. little shout-out. I said you were at my. mom's 70th and yeah. Thank you. >> That was a fun night, wasn't it? That. was a fun That was probably.

one of the best parties in like 15. years. They don't do parties like that. anymore. >> Right? They don't. No. Yeah. >> We used to do, you know, when I did PR, we used to do big events like that and. they were like these kind of parties. where like one after the next would come. in and it was like the crazy. >> party like that? And it was like the. crazy mix and now it's like everything's. so corporate and sponsors. Yeah. >> Nobody could ever pull that off unless. you're like paying for your own party, which nobody really does anymore. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, we're not doing it again for. a long time. It was really expensive. Okay, we love you. I'm flying maybe. See. you in LA. Call me when you're back. Bye, guys. Bye. Love you. Bye. Okay. Jonathan and I are good. Here's the. thing. I had kids. >> Yeah. and it's really hard. to maintain friendships when you have. kids and you're like in it and like.

Jonathan's not going to come and sit. around Calabasas all day. He's like. always on the move. >> Well, especially when someone else. doesn't have kids, so it's not like you. can do playdates with your kids. >> Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. I get that and. we love Jonathan. There's so much. history there. Okay, can we talk about how the new year. hits and suddenly I want to clean. everything, organize everything, and. completely reinvent my wardrobe? Between work and just existing on this. planet, I do not have time to go. shopping, which is why I'm obsessed with. our next sponsor, Daily Look. Daily Look.

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for 40% off your first month. Okay, let's talk about leaks. I know. Like do you remember that big that. When was it? I think it was like when. Jennifer Lopez was going to marry. Ben Affleck the first time and she. wanted to know who was leaking stuff to. the press and she gave different stories. and she found out who did it? No way. It. was like the thing to know like if you. have a leak, let's give either, I don't.

know, different groups a different story. and then you can sort of pinpoint. >> say the leak is. When we were filming. Keeping Up with the Kardashians, there. was leaks every single week. >> Mhm. of all the stuff that we were. filming. We were on the cover of every. magazine with these crazy salacious. stories. >> I think that it was kind of genius even. though we didn't even realize it. We. thought that was life. Mhm. >> But that was feeding the beast and then. getting us to film more things to shut. it down or to this or to that. And then.

we got to the point where we were like, "Okay, if I'm going to tell Kourtney. that I'm pregnant." When we were in. Miami, I would call our main producer. and be like, "Can you just bring no cameras, but can. you bring a. like little camcorder. and film it and then we'll keep the. footage, the tape until we're ready to. edit or until it's out there." Mhm. Cuz. it took so long to edit and get, you. know, the show up anyway. So then we. started doing these like, "Oh, our.

delivery room? Yeah, we'll film it, but. we'll film it on this like camera and. then keep the tape until we're ready.". You know, so like then those things. didn't leak so that I told Courtney. What Someone just in production. wanting to I don't think it was like. malicious. I think it was like knowing. that they're feeding this beast that. will get us more popular, that will be. more popular for the show. >> Mhm. Now that I look back at it.

>> That's a good perspective. I haven't. looked at it like that. You know, but. it's so interesting cuz when we film. Kardashians, we'll film. everything and there's not a leak. We. haven't had leaks in years. You're. right, but also the group has. dwindled down. Yeah. Remember when North. was born and you. to different group I think this was a. little bit of a miss. Oh, I sent the. photo of North? >> Yes, but you wanted to see. >> it? >> But from what I remember and maybe I'm. wrong, you sent different photos of.

North Mhm. to different groups of people. and you wanted to see which one would. get leaked. Yes, and one did. >> One did. >> called me with one photo going, "We have. a photo of North.". >> But didn't you forget? I then I forgot. what group I sent what picture to, so I. was [ __ ] But I did say. I forgot how I handled that. I think I. said that wasn't North and was like, "Ah, it's a generic baby picture on the. internet.". Cuz it was in the hospital bed, like.

right when she was born. Isn't that. crazy? Was there ever a time you thought. your reputation might not survive. something? Hundreds of times. Bazillions of times. When I got a divorce I thought my life. was over. >> was over, the dramatics are. "No one's going to talk to me again.". And. >> Oh, I yeah, I always get that way. I. think just like after. >> about a breakup. No, but just like you. just it's crazy that you really have. thought numerous times that the world is.

over and I just thought like our careers. were over. >> you've said it. You're like, "I ruined. all of our careers.". >> like, "I brought us up and I'm taking. this right down.". "I'm sorry, guys, but better me than. anyone." You know, like I've literally. been so dramatic after my 72-day. wedding. I and I find that like so. interesting that like. the media kind of like built it up. Like. they were so kind to me, they were so. great and then that happened and it was.

like. you know, a fraud and this is fake. >> love to build you up and tear you down. >> Yeah, and I was just like, "Wait, I. wouldn't do that." Or like That's the. name of the game, though. I just really. thought and, you know That's the name of. the game. Do you ever remember. celebrities that were rude to you at the. beginning. and now they like kiss your ass? And do. you. treat them differently or you just like, "Huh, I remember." Honestly, I don't even. think we were like invited to anything.

with any major celebrities for a long. time, so I don't think we were ever put. in that position. I just remember so. many people being so kind. Aw, I love. that. >> welcoming and even if it was like a. different genre of something that like. we were in, I think everyone was like. really kind and gracious. I love that. >> Like maybe it was like a time that like. someone didn't want us at a party, you. know, or something or maybe we weren't. invited, I don't know. Oh, I love that. I love that those are your memories.

Yeah. So I know one story that really. bothered you and rightfully so was the. elephant Birkin drama. Yeah. And even. Ellen DeGeneres reached out to you. >> me. Well, you know what? She always has. Like no matter what it is, if there's. like a an issue, she's always been, you. know, she is the reason why I went to. like full faux fur and like I have my. vintage furs and I like completely toned. down a lot of things.

And it was her approach and the way that. she communicated with me about it. And. so she wrote me and was like, "Hey, I. see this story with this elephant. Birkin. Like what is this?" That was a. bag that is fake. that we bought for extra props. You know, I brought a lot of my bags in. to film All's Fair as accessories, but. then. we just got a bunch of other ones that. we would have and leave like on set that. we can like leave there and grab if we.

ever needed one for a specific outfit. and I was wearing gray and it was a gray. one. If you look at it, I actually have. pictures of it. The hardware is upside. down. So it's like an actual like fake. one. Even like everything about the. texture is like not whatever. But what I. was so annoyed with myself about is just. that like that message that the elephant. Birkin was okay. Because like people. didn't know if it was real or fake. So. even just like putting that out there, like I wish I was a little bit smarter. on that and did made a a better choice.

on that. So I could see that and I. appreciate that. Yeah. And I'm sure. Ellen does, too. Do you Did you tell. Ellen it was fake? >> Of course. I was like, "The bag is fake, but like it's just also like the stories. and the headlines and all of that that. like follow it with them not knowing. what it is. So you know, I don't blame. that story or for the outrage of that. story. I really don't. >> hate certain organizations' approach.

to things. It's so. >> Yeah. just Oh, it's fully it's the. approach. That's why like Ellen's. approach was so great. Like she's. you know, it just struck me like how she. really took the time to communicate. certain things to me. >> approach in my book. Yeah. Being that it. bothered you so badly, why don't you go. out and respond and set the record. straight? I think. that came at a time when there was a lot. of other All's Fair criticism and I was.

like overwhelmed. I'm a firm believer of. like addressing something head-on and. quickly, you know, whether it's like naming. Kimono and then changing it to Skims and. acting quickly and like I hear you and. like sometimes I wish I did act more. quickly, but like my thought process. also is like same thing, why didn't I. shut down all those like AI rumors about. you know, the Laker player and you know, Katie and like all these things, fake tweets and pictures. It's like.

sometimes I'm like, "Oh, I'm not going. to give it attention because I can't. just sit there all day and shut. everything down." You know, and then. Well, anyway, I get annoyed enough and. I'm like, "Guys, like why aren't we like. Sometimes you just have to give a. statement if something's totally It just. It depends on my mood. >> I get that and some are. you can shut down a few and then if you. don't shut down one, people will be. like, "Oh, she didn't shut that down, so. it must be real." But it's not. Yeah. And I think you're right, you can't shut.

down every last rumor and we don't. >> talk about it, you know, we do have a. chat about it and it's like, "What are. we going to do about this? How are we. going to get you know, around this and. what are we going to You know, we are. conscious of everything that's going on. We really are. And sometimes we're like, "We're not giving it energy." Or we're. going to have to give this, this, this. and this energy. Right. >> And then sometimes you're get annoyed. like, "Why didn't I give that energy?". Oh, I think it's cooler that you don't. Yeah. But then sometimes I get pushed to the. limit and I'm like, "You better shut the.

We I'll tweet this myself." Yeah. >> You know, and there's just some random. things that like take me to the edge. that I It could be the most random thing. where I'm just like, "I have to speak. up." What is the craziest rumor you. think you've ever heard about yourself? Mhm. I don't know. I really don't. Like there's just been. so many. >> keep up. >> that it's like I know there's this crazy. video of you and Ye on jet skis. That is. fake. Well, that's not us. Duh. We're.

going to show the clip, obviously, when. >> believe people think that's us. It. doesn't. >> like us? I don't think it's No. If we. had a major jet ski accident, I think. >> like you in the slightest. That's why. I'm like, I don't even understand how. some rumors get started or go viral. It's really strange to me. >> it's so strange. I mean. Uh speaking of AI, I think there was. even like a fake tweet of Kanye's saying. that like, "Oh, Kim is like in the.

bathroom like having diarrhea.". >> Yes, I've seen that. >> "What? Do people think this stuff is. real?" Like that never. >> Okay, let's get to the tea. What tea? I. wanted you to spill. There's a few. iconic stories that I think the world. needs to hear about. >> Oh my god.