Khloé Gets Real About Parenting, Co-Parenting, and Mom Guilt | Khloé In Wonder Land

[Music]. I would say one of my top requests that. I get to talk about is parenting. I. think we all are searching for advice in. the parenting world. So, I'm really. excited to get into today's episode. I. do think being a mom is the hardest but. best job in the world. People that. always say, "How do you do it?" or "How. can somebody have so many kids?" Like, you always find a way and people figure. it out. for people who are scared. We're.

all scared. Mom guilt is definitely. real. You can't understand it until. you're a mom. Like, I can't be at. everyone's activities all the time. And. they're good at making you feel bad, too. Mom guilt is so wild. Balancing. being a co-parentter emotionally, it is. hard. Sometimes I do get defensive. internally and I have to remind myself I. have to allow for Tristan to be the dad, too. And I try. You got what I need.

Today I wanted to do another solo. episode and one of my I would say one of. my top questions or requests that I get. to talk about is parenting. I know in my. social groups all we do is compare like. do you guys do this? Do your kids do.

that? Is this normal? Is it not? So I'm. not surprised that one of my number one. requests is parenting. And I think we. all are searching for advice and to feel. less alone in the parenting world. So, I'm really excited to get into today's. episode. I feel like everyone, at least I know little girls, they. fantasize about their life when they get. older. Like, I'm going to have five kids. and yada yada yada. And I think you have.

this fantasy for yourself of what your. adult life is going to be. I definitely. thought I was going to have more than. two kids. And once you have kids, it's. just different. That's when you realize, okay, number one, it's incredibly hard. So much harder than I think we ever. realize what our parents go through on a. daily, but it's so scary. And I don't. know if it's the times that we're living. in and how much access we have to so.

much information. I feel like we are. bombarded with more negativity than. positivity. So for me, I have my two kids. I feel like that's. how much I can protect right now. If I. have more, of course, I would be able to. do that. But I feel like this is what. I'm able to do right now. But when. you're younger, you don't think about. all those things. I don't think about, okay, eventually my kids are going to. have to be left alone in this world. and.

survive on their own. You you just don't. think about. real grown-up when you're a kid. So, I. think a lot of us have these fantasies. and they change the older we get. Actual. motherhood, I think, is the most. incredible thing. and people who decide. to not have children. I also praise. those people because I think. society sort of makes you believe that. if you don't have children then your.

life is less than or it's not a. fulfilling life. And I think everyone. should have the freedom to do what they. want. And I also have one or two friends. that have chosen to not have children. and I'm really proud of them for making. that choice because not that they. wouldn't be great mothers, but they know. they just know where they are in life. and it's the best thing for them. And I. honestly think it would be the best. thing for those children. And some. people make those decisions and we.

should be proud of those people as. opposed to shaming those people. I do. think being a mom is the hardest but. best job in the world for people that. always say how do you do it or how can. somebody have so many kids like you. always find a way and people figure it. out and for me I love every single day. and regardless if you are the most. exhausted person if you feel like you're. at the end of your rope when you are. around those children and you know that. these little humans are relying on you.

and they do something that might be. really silly or anything. It definitely. gives you that resurgence of energy. So. for people who are scared, we're all. scared and I no one at least I've never. met anyone. that's like okay like I'm ready to have. a baby. You might think that like I. remember when I was with my ex-husband I. wanted a baby so badly and we tried and. we tried and it didn't work out for me. in that time. And probably though, even.

though I was trying and intentionally. trying to have a baby, probably if I got. pregnant, I would be terrified the. second I got pregnant because it's. scarier. Life is changing and it's a. different world. It's something that's. unknown. So, I think that anyone who has. fears being pregnant or having a baby, I. think all those fears are valid and we. all feel them. I get asked a lot about. my co-parenting relationship. I get asked a lot, how is it? How do we.

co-parent? Is it drama? So, for Tristan. and myself, there's really no drama when. it comes to co-parenting. There's drama. in other areas of our. relationship, friendship, whatever it's. called. Him and I are seamless. co-parents. I will say that. And I'm. really grateful for that. Tristan trusts. me as a mom and so I don't get. a lot of push back or he doesn't doubt a. lot of things that I say. Like if I'm.

saying I want the kids to go to this. school, he'll, you know, probably want. to do his own research or whatnot, but. he'll trust that I'm putting them in the. best school. If I need to take them to a. certain doctor, he's not like, well, let. me take them to my doctor or let me call. around. He trusts that I'm I always have. their best interest at heart. He just. knows that I'm not going to do anything. to harm the kids and he doesn't make. that part difficult on me. So, I'm very. grateful for that. Do I talk to my kids. about co-parenting? I don't talk to my.

kids about co-parenting. So, I try to. keep adult conversations for adults. Um, if me and Tristan are fighting, if we're. not getting along, any of that, my kids. don't know about it. They don't need to. know about it. I think us adults really. complicate things because we put our own. feelings and egos in the way. My kids. have nothing to do with anything adult. They have nothing to do with Tristan and. myself. All they need to know is mommy. and daddy love them. Daddy shows up,

mommy shows up, and we're here. It is a. different circumstance because Tristan. plays in the NBA and since TR's been. born he's played out of state for her. whole life and Tatum's whole life. So. they know that their dad isn't around. I want to say 8 to nine months out of. the year because he's in the NBA season. So they see him when he plays an LA team. or if it works with school breaks, they.

go to see him, but then he's around all. summer. They're just used to that. So it's not. weird if they're not seeing their dad. for long stretches of time, but they. talk to him every single day. But no, I. haven't sat down and be like, you know, me and your dad, we co-parent you two. They just know that this is our. lifestyle. And I do think Tristan being. in the NBA because we were together at. first, now we're not. That's probably. the best thing that made our.

co-parenting so easy for them. They. didn't notice a change. Like, oh my, now. my daddy's gone a lot more. They didn't. notice that because of his career. They. just knew he was gone a lot. And the. communication from FaceTime never. changed. Do the kids ever ask why they. don't live with their dad? No, they've never asked. I don't know if. that's weird or not, but they sort of. think it's cool. Like, not that they. don't live with their dad, but they.

think it's cool. Like, oh my gosh, we. have two houses in LA. Like, they're. like, "Wow, my daddy has a house and my. mommy has a house." They've never asked. Tatum is going to be three at the end of. July, so he doesn't know. And true has never been when me and. Tristan were living together. She was so. young. So her memory just she wouldn't. remember that we did live together at. one point. So. I don't know but they haven't. So TR.

just turned seven in April and maybe. like 2 years ago TR would say something. like your husband or whatever. And I was. like who's my husband? And she was like. my daddy. And I was like oh okay. I just. didn't know what her thought process was. because from where she would have the. memory of it, she's never seen us kiss. before, anything like that. And I didn't want to say, "No, he's. not." I didn't know what to do. So, I. asked my therapist and she said, "Oh, she's so young. This is how they.

associate things. If it gets to be a. problem, we'll talk about it. But right. now, she'll figure it out or ask more. questions. When she's ready, she'll ask. questions." But she never asked. questions then. So, I wasn't going to be. like, "Just so you know, me and your dad. are not together." I didn't feel the. need. And the therapist also said, "There's no need to say that. If she. brings it up again, we can talk about. it. And if she has questions, of course, I would never lie to her and say, we're. married and this is what marriage looks. like." No. I was.

sad for a minute thinking, "Oh gosh, does she think this is what a marriage. is, where two people don't live. together, they don't kiss, they don't. show affection?" And like I didn't want. her to also think that, but again, she's. so young and. he doesn't live in the same state and. all that. So, it wasn't it just wasn't a. big topic because he was in and out of. town all the time. She's now seven. and I don't know if someone else has. told her or she's just like figured it.

out that she's a little older, but she. knows that we're not married. Um because. she has said things. She's like, "You. you and my daddy didn't get married, did. you?" And I was like, "No, we didn't.". Like, she's asked, but it's never it's. just been the most casual. statement. It's never been like, "Why? Why didn't you guys get married?" She. just said, "You didn't marry my daddy, did you?" I said, "I didn't." And I go, "How do you feel about that?" She goes, "Huh?" And just starts playing with her. Barbies again. So, kids are way more.

resilient than we do give them credit. for. But also, I don't think it's as big. as a deal because she knows there's no. love lost. Like in our household, there. is no fighting. Tristan comes around as much as he. always came around. So, I just don't. think they feel this big void because I. don't allow them to feel that. I don't I. don't believe in having kids involved in. any adult stuff or I don't want to strip.

away their innocence, take away their. childhood. They had nothing to do with. any of this stuff. So, I don't believe. in that kind of stuff. >> When he is in town, are you doing like. family activities together for the kids. like birthday dinners, Disneyland, those. types of things? >> So, I do whatever really the kids want. If for example, today TR has her very. first tennis lesson. So, I invited. Tristan cuz she said I would love my. daddy to be there. I invite him. I don't. have a pro like me and Tristan actually. get along super well. I don't have a.

problem being around him. We just had. taco Tuesday with like kid version taco. Tuesday and I invited Tristan and one of. our mutual friends to come and the kids. love it. So I will definitely have. Tristan around but for kid related. things. He's not just around to hang out. with me. You know, sometimes I still. want like my mommy daughter time or my. mommy son time, but if it's something. big where I think it's appropriate, then.

totally. Tristan lives very close to me. The kids are like, I just want to go to. my daddy's house and have dinner. Great. So, I will send them down there and they. do that. Tristan knows that I don't play. about the kids and he doesn't play about. the kids. Like, he knows don't bring any. nonsense. Like, there's no fighting, there's no nothing. and we both just. really respect one another when it comes. to the children. But I will say for. people out there who are like, "How can. you make this work? If it wasn't for me,

I don't think it would be this easy.". Like I make this co-parenting. relationship. really easy. If I wanted to torture. Tristan is what I'm saying. I could, but. what does that do for my kids? I torture. him privately. So many adults can have. the same relationship, but there's a lot. of women who are spiteful or men too, but that are like, "You cheated on me, so did it." Like, and they'll drag this. out where of course I could do the same. thing, but what does that do? It was.

December, I think like four years ago. I just. found out Tristan was having another. baby that wasn't my baby. and my. surrogate was pregnant. True. was maybe four. I think that was the. first week of December. Christmas is. coming. I remember cuz TR was like, I. want to I want my daddy here. I want my. daddy. It was her first Christmas that. if I decided to keep Tristan away, he.

wouldn't be there for her. And she's old. enough that she knows things and all of. that. I was like, "Okay, let me breathe this through." And I let. Tristan come over Christmas morning to. open presents with True. Do you think that was easy for me? Do. you think I wanted to do that for. myself? Absolutely not. I did it for. True. I was a big girl. I kept all my. feelings aside. I was probably boiling. on the inside or wanting to ring his.

neck, but I didn't. He flew in town, forget what team he played for, had. Christmas morning with her, and flew. back out of town. and I was able to. control my emotions for the hour or 90. minutes that he was there for my. daughter, not for me. So, in the worst. of times, you can still control yourself. if you have control over your emotions. for your children. Tristan and I. haven't had the conversation like when.

you are serious with a girl, this is. what you do with my kids. I think it's. just. understood. No one's going to be around my kids. until like we Tristan and I need to have. the talk. I would need to meet the girl. or at least I would have to know he's. serious with her. I don't want my kids. around just a bunch of random girls. Just the same way I wouldn't bring a guy. that I'm newly dating around my kids. My. kids have never met. Well, I'm not.

dating anyone, but you know, if I was, my kids would not meet that person. I am. so insane about it. I just don't trust. people. I don't believe in that. So, I. think Tristan knows and True will tell. me everything. So, everyone knows to not. play that game with me. What I think is so interesting. just about I don't know why this is so.

interesting to me but like Tristan. because he is gone so much of the year. and Tatum now that he's going to be. three like he's so much more of a real. person and has this amazing personality. and just what he's drawn to. He's so. tall and he's drawn to sports and all. these things. when Tristan came back. from season this year. How excited Tatum. was to see his dad. And I was like, that's so cute because he hasn't seen.

him. since January when Tristan came here to. play one of the LA teams. So that's a. big time. That's 6 months. And for a. little kid that's two and a half to. remember. I don't know. I know it's his. father and he talks to him on FaceTime. I just thought it was so cute how. excited he was to see his dad and how. boys are just wired. Like he loves to go. to Tristan's practices and the. basketball. It's just it's so silly to. me how boys are wired, but it really is.

I will say that balancing. being a co-parentter. emotionally, it is hard and I imagine. it's hard if I had a husband. I think. there is that emotional balance that you. have to deal with. For me, I have my. days like there are days that or like. little things like which Tristan's not. wrong, but he's like, "Don't you think. those shorts are too short on her?" And. I'm like like you want to almost be.

like, "Yeah, she's my kid, but it's our. kid, but you you just want to like have. that ownership." But I'm like, "Yes, they're short, but we're just hanging. out at the house pool." Like cuz I will. send pictures to him or whatever. You. still want to let your co-parent be the. parent as much as they want to. And you. also have to give them grace, yourself. grace. Sometimes they have to take a. breath and be like, "It's okay. He's. doing what's right. Yes, the shorts are. short, but we're at home lounging. So, let me explain the context of these.

photos." So, sometimes I do get. defensive internally and I have to. remind myself, no, this is this is good. And that is an emotional battle I have. between myself. like it. I can't be. like, "No, this this is my kid. I have. to allow. for Tristan to be the dad, too.". Mom guilt is definitely real. And I. never understood it. You can't. understand it until you're a mom. You're. like, "God, leave the kid. Go see the mo. to the movies. The kid's not going to.

notice." I think I get the most mom. guilt. I sort of get it all the time. Like. I want to be so hands-on. I want to do. everything. I want to be there for every. activity. And it's not possible all the. time. Like I can't work the way I do, have two kids, and be at everyone's. activities all the time. And they're good at making you feel bad, too, when they know they could pull on. your heartstrings. They know how to do.

that. If you know you're doing the best. that you can, then just know that it's. also a good feeling because that means. that they love you and they want you. around. And I know how present I am as a. mom, so I know that it's not real what. they're like, if they're like, I want. you to have dinner with me. I'm like, I. have dinner with you every night. Like. the other night, I had to go to my mom's. and she wanted me to have dinner with. her and my grandma. I have dinner with. my kids 99% of the time. And I was like,

"True. I'm going to go to Loveies. My. mom lives right next door to me. And. I'll come back to put you to bed." And. she's like, "You never have dinner with. me. You never have dinner with me." So. then I was like, "I'm not even going to. let you with me right now because I know. I have dinner with you all the time. They just know what to say. to try to get you to stay." So some mom. guilt is real. Some I'm like, "Girl, please." And then Tatum follows and. starts whining just cuz she's whining. It's a whole thing. I mean, for me, I.

think the things that I do for myself, so I still feel like a mom. Like, yes, I. know I talk about fitness a lot, but. like I like to look a certain way. Like, I like my body to be a certain way. Those things make me feel still just. strong and powerful and like, okay, I. had this hour for myself and that really. I also just feel healthy. I do it so I. can literally I do it cuz I want to play. with my kids like get on the ground, jump on a trampoline with them. I want. to do all those things as long as I can.

and not be like cuz it is real when. you're 40. You're like, "Oh, my back. hurts." Like you might sleep one day and. I don't know how but you threw your back. out just by sleeping. That's what. happens when you're over 40. And I want. to do things that make me feel strong. I. also want to set good examples for my. kids. There are times that I'm like, "Okay, I need. I need to have a night with my girls.". And it could be every blue moon, but. sometimes you need to do that. I feel. like even.

me working and me being busy. I take. quick trips. I had to go to Germany and. Italy for a day for something for my. fragrance. And when they were younger, my kids, I would have said no cuz I have. so much anxiety about leaving them. But. I'm like, you know what? This is so. exciting for me. Doing my own fragrance. was something that I've thought about. for a while, but something happened in. my 30s where I lost so much of myself. And I really pushed myself when I turned.

40 to do new things. And so now that I. have these new opportunities and things. like my fragrance, I am going to take advantage. I've never. been to Germany. How cool. I get. to jump on a plane, go to Germany, and. not just go to Germany. go to Germany. for a fragrance of my own. Like for me, all those things are like, "Yes, yes, yes. My kids, I'm going to be right. back." But those things I still need. where it gives me that ump and like that.

sense of accomplishment like, "Oh, holy. I'm in Germany for my fragrance.". Like, it's just crazy and something that. I. never dreamed would happen. So to have. those opportunities, I can't keep saying. no. And yes, they're workrelated, so it. makes me feel less guilty, but it's also. pinch me moments all at the same time. So, when I travel or even if I have like a. shoot, we've done a few photo shoots. that are in California, but it will be a. two-day shoot and my contract is like.

they could have me for like 15 hours and. the next day the same. So, literally, I. will go home, sleep for a few hours, and. I have to go back. So, I don't ever I. don't see my kids for those two days. I. do have nannies that will help me when. I'm doing stuff like this. And and also people that talk about. nannies, we all have help in some. capacity. You can call it daycare. You. can call it a school. You can call it. in-laws, your mother, sister, whoever. A.

babysitter. For some reason, the term. babysitter people find way less. offensive than a nanny. I don't know. why. We're all blessed and it takes a. village to raise a family. I do not. understand the shame that people give to. other people for having people help them. with their kids. There is no shame in. that. And whoever it is, a grandparent, a niece, a sister, whoever, thank God we. have these villages that can help one. another. With that being said, I'm a.

control freak. I micromanage. I. just feel like if I don't do it, it. doesn't get done. I'm insane. So before. I go on a trip, cuz I'm used to making I. make TR's lunches. She has to have two. snacks every day and d I know how she. likes things done. So for school, I. pre-do the lunches for the length of my. trip, the snacks for the length of my. trip. I label everything Tuesday, Wednesday, th like whatever. I check the.

weather. I feel like people don't check. the weather. So I check the weather. every day to do her uniforms. Does this. one a legging day? Is this a bike short. day? Does this require this whatever? And for Tatum, it's different because. he's not in school. So, I read him. bedtime books every day and I know the. bedtime books he likes and so, you know, we leave those out and it's just. specific. But, you know, I still like. doing the voices and all that kind of. stuff. But. I I also think about, okay, now when.

Tatum goes to school next year, I'm going to have to do this for two. kids. like a it's it's a lot. Will. everyone know how to do this if I don't. do it? Yes. And I know that because when. I got CO for 15 days, somehow everything. survived. I still knowing that I like. can't. I still think I need to do it. But I do know if push comes to shove, it. will happen and the kids survive and. everything gets done. But going on these. trips, it's also not like, okay, bye.

I'm I'm gone and I'm free of. responsibilities. the amount of work it. takes me to prepare. for these trips more for my kids, not. for myself. I don't know if other moms. are like, is this normal that we do this. to ourselves? I don't know. I do want to talk about my relationship. or the examples I had. I think one. reason, one reason why Tristan and I. co-parent so well is what I believe is.

the example that was given to me from my. dad, my stepdad, and my mom. The very beginning when they first. divorced, my mom admits this herself. There was their cooling off period. So, I am not saying that my mom and my dad. got along perfectly from the very. beginning. I just don't remember it. being that bad. I think my older sisters. remember more tension. I don't. But what.

I remember is my dad and my stepdad. years after their divorce, they started. having golf once a week and they would. play golf once a week. My dad would come. over to my mom's once a week for family. dinner, have dinner with all of us, with. Bruce, my mom, my dad, all the kids. Kettle and Kylie, they refer to my dad. as Uncle Rob or Uncle Robert. So that. was just the norm. As an adult now, like.

for us, we're like, "This is my dad. These are my little sister's uncle." And. then if someone was like, "Oh, is that. your like how?" Like, "Oh, no, that's my. mom's ex-husband." Like, it's crazy when. you think about it. As a kid, you don't. know all those dynamics and how strange. that is or how hard that probably is for. my dad to see my mom married to somebody. else, having babies with somebody else. And now as an adult, you're like, damn, that had to be really hard. But what a.

great example for us all. What a great. dad I had that he put his feelings aside. just to be around us. There's photos of. my dad holding my little sisters and. seeing that it makes my heart so happy. and so full because I know my dad loves. my little sisters. and to know that it's the best thing. ever. And for me to have that as my. example, I just always knew as much as I.

could control it, I was going to do the. best thing I could to co-parent. the same way. And so I'm proud of myself. that I. have been doing such a good job. co-parenting. And I'm proud of all three of my parents. for doing the job that they did instead. of the examples that they did for me and. my siblings. What traditions do did I do. with my dad that we still do today and. with my kids? So we and we've you've. seen it on some of our shows, but my dad.

every night at dinner we did the peak in. the pit where you go around the table. Each person says the peak and the pit of. their day. And I do that with all the. kids. I am like the hub for the kids. They all come to my house and they. pretty much have dinner at my house. almost every night. And so we all go. around. We do the peak in the pit and. it's great. There could be something. really silly. It could be something that. leads to bigger conversations. And I. think it's a great way to talk to your.

kids and hear the highs and lows of. their day. And I love that it keeps that. tradition going that I had with my dad. I also love that my dad's presence is so. strong around my family. My dad has. never met any of his grandchildren. He's. been gone 21 years. He died when I was. 19. And for him to be gone longer than I've.

known him for and for his presence to be. so strong in all of the kids' lives and. for them to know him, know what he looks. like, know stories about him, how silly. he is, all that stuff. I'm really proud. that we've been able to keep his memory. alive as long as we have. Things I've. learned from my mom. Honestly, I feel. like everything that I do as a mom, I. sort of emulate from my mom. My mom was, is, and will always be the best mom. We.

had the best childhood. If it's, I don't. know, the smallest holiday, like Flag. Day, she's going to make Flag Day the. most amazing Flag Day possible. And I. just love how much she celebrates life. from like themed little napkins to, you. know, she'll have cookie cutter fruit, like takes the cookie cutter and makes. fruit into different shapes. Silly. things that I do all of that stuff and. more. Um, I remember as kids, we always.

had pool parties that my mom was always. throwing. I try to do that for my kids. and just be the house that everyone. wants to be at. My mom makes everything. incredible. Very over the top, but. that's very much my mom. I just love. that everything is based in love. And it. is interesting cuz now that we all have. our own kids, we still don't do our own. holidays. We still all come together to celebrate.

the holidays. We'll have, for example, Christmas. We'll have time for our own. households to celebrate to do like the. presents, but then we'll all meet at my. mom's for Christmas brunch and we. celebrate together. So, we're always. together, but we will have times to make. our own traditions within our family. But what's better than having one. big family? That's the best. So, something that gets me a lot of heat. sometimes is when I talk about my. pregnancy versus surrogacy journey. I.

also wish that I heard more people talk. about surrogacy. I feel like I knew a. lot about surrogacy, but never more like. the technicalities of it. I don't feel. like I knew a lot about the emotional. aspect once the baby was born. And I'm. only here to talk about my journey cuz. that's all I can reference from. I do. have a few different friends that did. surrogacy and they feel the exact same.

way. So, I feel less alone in that cuz for a. while I was like, I'm using my platform. and of course it's not I'm not giving. any misinformation cuz this is my. information. It's coming from me. But I. just want to make sure that I'm letting. people feel seen and that they're not. alone. And I do hope that other people. feel the complete other way with true. She was my first baby. I was always told. I couldn't get pregnant. I get pregnant.

I had such a great pregnancy. I loved. it. And when you are growing yourself. and growing a human, it's you really. feel this journey with you and you feel. like you're on every step of the way. and it's just a different feeling. And. then I also think True and I I don't. know if True would be involved in this, but I definitely trauma bonded with True. when she came into the world because.

just a few days before I found out this. affair Tristan was having. Yeah. I just. feel like I trauma bonded with her. She. saved me. She got me out of this really. dark place. It was a very. There was so many layers. There's so. many layers to both of my pregnancies, but there was so many layers to mine and. TR's connection there. Then I have my surrogate. Um, my surrogate gets pregnant. I did my. embryo transfer. The first week of.

December, I find out Tristan is having. another baby with somebody else. And. we didn't even know if the embryo took. you find out in two weeks. And then of course the following week I. find out the embryo took and I. did not know how to process any of this. And I. definitely admit that I buried my head. in the sand and I also wanted to protect. my surrogate. This was a huge media.

story and I didn't want to do anything. to jeopardize my surrogate's privacy for. her and her children. She has children. she is a husband and also. to protect my baby that she's. growing and nourishing and I didn't want. to add any of this onto her. So, I. wasn't with her as much like I wasn't. going to the doctor's appointments cuz I. was being followed everywhere. There was. a lot I had to do a lot of things.

remotely. So, it wasn't this connection. that I had with True. And then I. remember when I got Tatum for the first. time and I hugged him, he still wasn't. the same feeling that I had to compare. with true. because I was being so honest on. Kardashians. I got a lot of heat for. this. But all I'm doing is saying my. truth. Tatum is now 3 years old. He is. truly the best thing that's ever. happened to me. And I cannot imagine my.

life without him. He reminds me of my. dad and my brother every single day. He. is so funny and in a way that only my. dad and my brother have this humor. And. to be such a little human, it's I don't. know how he has the jokes he has or the. sarcasm or facial expressions at such a. young like it's just not to me. I don't. know kids that act like that so young. So I I have to believe that there's.

pieces of my dad in him and. how my home is so complete because of. Tatum. It's like something I could never. explain. So yes, me being honest about. my surrogacy journey, me being honest. about I didn't feel connected to Tatum. until probably 9 to 10 months after he. was alive. When I rationalize. everything, I wasn't connected to True the second I. found out I was pregnant. I I was never. a mom that was like.

I didn't name her until I met her. But. if I wasn't like, uh, the baby this, the. baby that. I was very matter of fact, like, no, I'm hungry. I got asleep. I. worked every day. I worked out every. day. Like, I me being pregnant was not a. disability. It wasn't I just moved on. I. was very matterof fact about it. So, true. I didn't feel. anything when she was in my tummy. Like. I wasn't one of those. I feel like. Courtney gets very attached.

I don't know. I was much more just blank. about it. And then when I met her, I. fell in love with her instantly. And I. feel like with Tatum, it took the length. of someone that would be pregnant. And. then when I was around the 9 or 10 month. mark, I was like, "Okay, we're vibing." I wanted to be really. honest about that because I also think. that people should hear all sides of. surrogacy. I think it's an incredible. opportunity that we have for women who. can't get pregnant for any reason and I.

feel so blessed that we do have that. option. I just wanted to tell my truth. and there are some people that were so. grateful for that. And then there's also. a lot of people that till this day, years later, they hold it over my head. that I was honest. And um I find that. crazy, but Tatum is the best. TR is the. best sister. Tatum is obsessed with her. And I I love my little family. I love. seeing them together. And I just know.

Tatum completed my household. Thank you. guys so much for listening and watching. with me. Hopefully I could help or let. some of you guys feel seen on this. parenting journey. I mean, parenting is. scary. It's messy. It's fun. It's. amazing. It's all those things, but we. all need a support system. And hopefully. I was able to provide a little support. and understanding for you guys. And if. you guys have any more questions, I.

still have tons I didn't get to. Maybe. we'll do a part two, but keep sending. them on in. And yes, I'll see you guys. next time.