TOP HAT DEMON STORY, DARK PERFECT WORLD THEORY & EGO DEATHS w/ EMSON - EP.146

[Music]. okay you guys ever have like you guys. ever like think of a jumper jingle ever. yeah. no but like an actual like more like I. don't know some kind of like slogan I. feel like I feel like if you make. jumpers jump don't worry jumper jump. into the slogans. like jumpers jump. homies be hoping.

like in your head I guess so yeah. there's another there's another podcast. in Toronto it's like players play and. everyone was like roasting them because. they like all the coffee yeah they're. like yo why you couldn't get more. creative and say like oh jumpers jump. players but that's crazy I actually know. one of my homies was like talking about. oh like oh you were on this was like way. back when I when we did the first. broadcast yeah oh you were on shooter. shoot. yo I was gonna name it that before. actually yeah that was one of the names. it was uh shooter shoot running with the.

winners. running with the winners bro. that's actually kind of it's nice. somebody has that podcast and then we. landed on jumpers jump was an inside. joke yeah yeah between like YouTube. right yeah it was an inside joke. something like college right yeah it was. something I said yeah because but it. just sounded like like nice it sounded. like iconic so it is it does sound. iconic no because uh also another one. the and what podcast oh that was hard. though I like that what is that just.

it's called Android is it for like this. podcast yeah What's it gonna be for this. it was like and what because you use you. always say oh and what yeah that's true. I think we always say that what else do. you always say take in take in uh if you. really bag it. if you're really kind of hard that's. kind of hard that is what you say but my. favorite is is my cat's homie because it. just sounds sick can't tell me yeah too. much can't tell me oh I'm surprised. nobody had that name too can't tell me. yeah nobody had it I feel like there's a. bunch of like basic ones out there like.

keep it real just chilling podcasts with. the homies. jumpers jump always be hopping like an.

ad-lib. now if if I was to do a podcast right. now low-key I've been having an idea for. it I really want to do like a podcast. that every single episode is almost like. a cinematic so it's like imagine like a. zombie apocalypse. and then Knights get trapped into. somewhere but since we're locked in we. gotta like talk we have to talk oh. that's kind of hard I am working on. something just like that word and I. haven't done the the zombie apocalypse.

one that one's good though wrestle got. it like kind of cat and Loki I want to. cast like big celebrities. yeah you don't want you don't really. like having too many guests on yeah. because that's what I had on on can't. tell me right because when I have it on. can tell me it's more like uh you know I. mean I can really like see the what the. guest is trying to do yeah rather than. jumpers jump is kind of known for I. guess theories stories and [ __ ] it kind. of reminds me of uh you know Kevin. Hart's like what now like comedy show. where all like the Cinematic and it goes. into him doing the actual show so it's.

kind of like that oh but instead of the. you're doing comedy it's doing the. podcast that's cool though because it's. like yeah like take in like whenever. you're with you ever like have insane. conversations but it's in the most like. weird English scenario like I remember. one time like I was like at a party and. I was I was messed and like I just. grabbed the most random person in our. friend group that I don't talk to as. much yeah and then we were in the. bathroom and she was just taking care of. me I was yakking I was like I just. wasn't feeling it and then we were just.

talking and taking like I know I don't. talk to her like this at all yeah and I. went through like my whole life story. for three hours. those type of moments I don't know it's. like it's like meant to be like exactly. she's supposed to be there at that time. and it's so like the stars are lying. type of [ __ ] yeah and now we're like. super tight yeah like it's crazy how. like that happens it's like it's like. the most Niche and the most specific. like setting and the most specific thing. like to bring you guys together but it's. always like it's always like the most. impactful you know High key that's like.

a that's like a life hack if you're. trying to take a girl out on a date yeah. like if you can if you can hone in on. the the feeling and the mood to raps but. like but then if you're trying to like. do it with like a shorty it's kind of. planned yeah so is that is that a thing. so like it's forced so it's not too. forced no you can transition it. if you're nice enough you can transition. like a deep talk with a girl yeah but. like for the most part like it doesn't. feel like you never have like actually. but you don't feel like it it doesn't. feel deep even if it is deep yeah.

no I know exactly because there's some. people I try having a deep talk with. like ah this doesn't feel right yeah. like you guys are just talking to talk. and you guys do have a conversation but. it just the feeling doesn't feel as. genuine I think I truly believe like. there's certain people that they have. almost like a spiritual thing when you. talk to them so it's almost like your. souls connect in a way and they. understand you on a level that's not. language it's like something else in the. air you know it makes sense though. because I feel like you know how. everybody says life is just frequency.

yeah and so like voice our voice and. like how our frequency from how we talk. might like affect somebody else's like. Vibe you know because it like like how. music touches us in a way yeah yeah you. know and it's just like certain like. music that we listen to like why does. one genre of music sound better than one. another. it's just sounds if you really bag it. it's just sound it's literally just. sound where it's it's just waves it it. almost appeals to our brain in a certain. pattern like if I if I just want you. like this hmm is it positive or negative.

it's like positive yes. [Music]. but is it because we learned that from. birth and that's how we're programmed. but maybe there's a frequency to it so. look look I don't know if I said this. before but this is [ __ ]. um monks and certain like yogis when. they when they meditate they do the. um I just say this right and it puts it. puts their frequency their voice to uh. 432 or whatever the high frequency is of.

of the the hurts now when people are. high you know how they always talk like. Surfers to go oh yeah. what are you saying. Theory the reason they do that is. because they're on such a high frequency. it changes their voice to talk like that. yeah I feel that you know because you're. like you're just kind of like. it makes sense because maybe it's like. like it's it's like two it's like tuning. like a radio yeah yeah yeah you're kind.

of like tuning into like the best. frequency that like suits your soul. no low-key I think that's what life is. it's just your soul like going through. like frequencies it's like finding exact. because if you if you look at life in a. sense of choices we're always just. picking choices and we just land on. where we are right now so every single. thing in your life whether it be like to. hang out with a friend yes or no or to. be nice to my mom yes or no to eat rice. today yeah it's the rest of the day yes. or no like that eating rice that day. could affected you later man I don't.

want carbs another day whatever it may. be right now whatever choices you made. is literally like a it's like code it's. almost like computer [ __ ] but it's. London zeros from just running your own. algorithm life will you ever hear that. like thing where it's like we're not. humans on our spiritual journey we're. spirits on a human Journey yeah yeah. like it's like our souls are kind of. like transcending through different. frequencies so like do you think like. that we that we're on like our one like.

kind of like not timeline but our one. frequency for our whole lives or do you. think certain events in our lives like. change that frequency and we tune into. something else like we should I think it. changes like shifting you ever hear. about that [ __ ] like yo I think [ __ ] bro. I get scared sometimes because I think. the moment you really. this is this is gonna sound crazy but. when I try to manifest things or try to. like. yeah literally like manifest things into. my life I feel a difference in How I.

Live yeah and then that's how I know I. did it right yeah that's the [ __ ] for it. so it's not only what changes like my. environment but everything from the. moment I wake up to how I eat my food. everything changes and then I'm like. holy [ __ ] am I am I a different person. or is this or is the world different is. the world different yeah is the universe. different like [ __ ] it can definitely. change though because imagine like one. day you do Coke and then the rest of.

your life is [ __ ] up like you jump. that Dimension you had a choice though. and then it would steer you on another. one yeah like a bad decision like a bad. decision just one all it takes and then. that like takes you on to that okay so. on to that next Dimension yeah yo but. like there's like always like what if. there's like an in-between between like. frequencies you know what do you mean. like you know how like let's say like. there's like a certain life where you're. living this or a certain life you're. living that what's the in-between of. Dimensions you know kind of like yeah. you know because like I always think.

like because I have like hella sleep. paralysis like I don't know really I. don't know you know I sleep well no I do. I sleep like eight hours minimum that's. good yeah but I don't know what it is. like oh you sleep on your back in recent. no I sleep like a baby. I don't know I don't know if that like a. fetal position almost but I'm hugging. like something interesting yeah what do.

you see what do you see okay so like you. know how people see like instantly. paralysis they see it's like a black. figure right yeah they see stuff like. that I don't it just it feels like like. my my brain turns on but my body does it. it's like parallel oh yeah that's what. it is and that's what it is right and it. feels like it feels like um you're you. see a glimpse of what you think is is. there yeah but it's not yeah kind of. like like I can like visualize what my. room looks like yeah yeah but like I. don't know they don't physically open my. eyes you know how some people have sleep.

paralysis Their Eyes Are Open they can't. talk but yeah like and I guess like At. first like the first couple times it was. really scary because I'm just like it. feels like your brain dead yeah yeah if. you can't move your body you can't do. anything you're telling your you're. giving the inputs but the piece he's not. like the computer yeah because he's just. your thoughts are the way and but like I. learned how to like properly wake myself. up every time now yeah I just do like. quick break quick breaths like so that. it raises my heart and then my heart. like yo there's some Tick Tock that was.

like yo sleep classes is fake because. all you have to do is remind yourself. that you your brain can connect to your. body and just say [ __ ] that [ __ ] that's. so fast. like you can actually do that people. forget that their brain is controlling. their body so it's Lily it's just all in. your brain so as soon as you say [ __ ]. this I'm not in sleep paralysis you'll. wake up from it yeah because what it. actually is is that like your brain. basically when you're like REM sleep it. paralyzes your body so you don't act. upon your dream yeah you know because. like let's say like it didn't paralyze.

your body and you're like fighting. people in your dream you'll you'll be. awake and like yeah in your sleep yeah. it's like the defense yeah it's like a. security system but I will say like. there was like a time where I did like. [Music]. but this one is crazy so like you ever. hear of like the the top hat man oh yeah. oh yeah you guys talk about that yeah. yeah okay yeah so basically what. happened so this is the craziest thing. so I used to do I remember when I used.

to do the podcast so I stopped for this. reason yeah for a bit so basically what. happened was I was having this was the. time when I was having like bare sleep. paralysis like almost like every night. but it was pretty it was pretty scary. and so one night like I don't know what. it was but I remember like like waking. up on my back and like I opened my eyes. but like I couldn't move and then at the. foot of my bed like like it started to. just like fade in no yeah it was like so. it was like a tall figure and then he. had like a hat but he had like no eyes.

nothing it was just the silhouette and. then like I started to panic and so my. body woke itself up out of the anxiety I. guess right yeah and so taking a couple. of years back my cousin he I don't know. I don't remember which cousin but he. told me the story about how like he was. never able to like sleep properly. because he would always see like either. before he would go to sleep or while he. was asleep or in the middle of the night. that there would always be like like a. tall guy in the silhouette with a topic. at the foot of his bed or at the doorway.

and it followed him for years and even. like I don't know if I'm butchering the. story but like even like later on when. he had like a girlfriend that like she. would like sleep over and she would see. him too yeah yeah like one time. apparently like she slept over and then. uh the next morning she was gone she he. called her like yo why'd you leave he's. like well I got creeped out because I. started I saw like this the topic right. okay so take take this in right like. months later I'm recording I'm recording.

my podcast with my my homegirl right and. she's very like spiritual like open her. third eye she has so many encounters. like gone through like monks and. Buddhists to like bless stuff for her. and she's been through it all she was. telling her stories on the podcast and I. was getting chills so I was like you. know what I'll open up let me like tell. the story yeah so I told the story and. while we were recording her whatever. like our friends were there in the room. with us and she was like listening in. and when she heard my story she was like. yo it's crazy because she explained her. experience with the tall van yeah and.

then as she was explaining. on the door. on camera too I still have I have it to. this day. and then I turned into the nutmeg and. then so yeah so we heard three dogs all. stopped we like all like dead silence. and this is when I was still like my mom. was still living with me at the time. yeah and so I opened the door and no one. was there and then I go to my mom's room. she's asleep. yeah so we're like this cat like what is.

this I know it it wasn't them yeah. because you could hear it from the door. we all look towards the door and I have. the footage and every time like I try to. go back to edit it it's just so Eerie. like the feeling like I feel it in my. gut and my gut feeling I will I never. like doubt my gut feeling you know yeah. like it's just such a it feels like a. pressure on my heart you know you know. what they say though they say if you. speak about certain Spirits they'll. manifest oh yeah no I'd love to say like. because like you know how my my friend.

she's super sensitive to all that stuff. I feel like that's why follows people. really allowed to like show itself. because we were like we were expressing. its presence and it got more like you. know in tune with where our. conversations because they follow people. that that can I guess communicate to. that other realm because they're trying. to get out see a lot of people are. saying when we tell these stories like. about the top hat man that's just fake. but fam there's another person that. literally goes through that [ __ ] and I. didn't even know you guys thought that's. what I'm saying that's why that's why.

it's so crazy and like do you do you. watch a lot of horror movies I used to. like during covet I remember there was a. time I was so bored I just watched a. bunch yeah but like before like I hated. horror movies like I was like a [ __ ] no. but like I don't like horror movies. still to this day though but like what. you said like uh if you watch all of. those like stuff you might summon some. bad energy too because like yeah yeah. because I remember see hearing like a. story there was like this family right. from Ecuador and every like I think it. was Friday night they would watch like.

their horror movie yeah so they would. have a session right so it's their thing. yeah that's their thing and I don't know. why but one one night they said that oh. they felt some bad Spirit come upon them. oh [ __ ] and so what they did they were. like okay when we have the the session. next week we'll set up a camera right so. I there's literally a video when they. set up the camera you can see them. shaking and stuff like that and in like. the couch you see a black figure like. swipe their hands so they jump they all. jump up they're like what the [ __ ] and I.

I'm telling you the water bottle on the. table flung across. and this and listen when they tried to. exit the room yeah the door wouldn't. open like they were stuck in there. that's see what do you do with that. situation you calling a priesthood like. what they did you have to pray bro. that's the only thing you can look if. you're dealing with spiritual [ __ ] it's. up to spiritual [ __ ] to fix yeah it has. nothing to do with anything physical no. more personally that's what I believe or.

when you're locked in you start a. podcast. [Laughter]. and then it's just like so what do you. guys like believe and it's like or. imagine like I don't know like this. might be different like obviously like. it might be more of like a cinematic. like episode more than a podcast but. what if it's like like you're all. trapped in but it's three different. people who have three different.

religions and three different beliefs um. people take it in like differently. different different like I guess ideas. like what if someone's like that's not. religious or doesn't believe this like. is in a group of two religious people of. different religions like how did that. conversation go that's interesting so. yeah that's like those cut videos. like find find they find them all fine. fine who's the Catholic yo. have you guys seen that that one that.

one episode no it's like find the girl. oh no figure out who's not a girl and. it's like a dude. it's like a girl voice my name is. Rebecca. they'll replay it but. this is them just watching the movie.

you see that. so they'll replay it watch watch closely. look they're all just reviewing the. gameplay. and then like fam shits are flying. costume they couldn't exit the door. pillows are moving they finally get out. and then they call the priest the next. day to literally bless the house no. that's [ __ ] it's because it's because I. think when you bring in that energy. that's what settles yeah you're asking. for it yeah why do you think like.

Spirits are so strong though like to the. point where you kind of open doors I. don't know like why well if you if you. take it in how do you know we're not. just Spirit word what if we're what if. we're like interrupting in their Realm. you know like that goes back into like. the frequency stuff yeah whereas like. some people think ghosts are just people. glitching like people's frequency. glitching into already into where we are. which makes sense because why do you. only see ghosts like it's never like. full on for like five seconds it's.

always the Glimpse yeah and you never. know what you really saw like they. glitch back out have you ever had those. one moments where like nothing's around. you but you feel scared yes all that but. is that anxiety no that that's what they. say is like the ghosts are in your. presence but maybe that's why some. people have anxiety because they're more. sensitive because my friend who's more. sensitive about that stuff she has like. like and like more like anxiety stuff. with her as well. yeah yeah yeah but just uh some of the.

facts of like how it is so do you ever. you ever read the book uh Think and Grow. Rich yeah this is like an. entrepreneurship book and it's all about. manifestation right one of the biggest. points they made in that book was if you. could almost give the idea of something. it gives it life to happen yeah so in my. head. and I think this is how movies work too. when you give an idea to a scenario. happening or let's say let's say I look.

at a picture or I look at like the. ceiling yeah and it looks almost like oh. it could be the shape of a dog or. whatever. what if this is this is gonna sound. crazy but what if. the idea comes to life in that Realm. in like the realm of like of like. ideas if that makes sense I don't know. if that your ideas have its like own. frequency no like so the moment I say. um this stick is a sword now yeah and.

there's other objects in the room. does it give life to other things. because that idea was set in stone and. because if you think of every single. thing in life is an idea yeah every. single thing like this was an idea first. the mic was an idea first the podcast us. speaking are all ideas yeah so I think. the moment you give it what if it just. manifests to itself or even it just like. opens doors to other realities then you. get to pull it in it's like that's what. I always thought like manifestation was.

though it's as much as it is spiritual. it's more like coding yourself to make. it real that's what I'm saying I think. that I think that's what it is because I. think the greatest power of humanity is. creation yeah as much as people say like. like in different religions oh like gods. are our creator but he created us as so. we can also like create things because. Humanity created like everything think. about it like that you know like you. create all the technology that's that's. a superpower in itself yeah to create. electricity like things to make fire you. know like we don't have like the. superpowers to actually like make fire.

in our hands like our balls but we can. have the idea we have like the idea to. create the bomb yeah yeah up at hybrid. like who would think like we could make. a city-wide explosion you know that's. just that's just an idea though right. but to be able to make that idea into. fruition yeah like with science or. whatever that means like would you think. like anything is possible pretty much. you know I think that's how it is I. think like even if it's not meant to be. if that idea is not to meant to happen. in this realm it happens in another so.

like let's say you paint a picture yeah. and you you paint like people that are. strangers that don't even have a real. person attached to them. once you create that picture that. painting does it create its own story. once it's finished. and you know how you go to art gallery. and people like interpret it yeah yeah. and people have their own ideas does. that make them real. I guess so because these ideas are set. on to them now or there's like I guess. manifestations that are set what they.

could be doing and in that realm of like. let's say you are that person in the. painting now. I know you can't like move in [ __ ] but. let's say spiritually you are that that. person in the painting. are you now whatever the painter said. you are are you the idea are you the. card are you the concept and what if. that's what we are like humans in. general we're just an idea yeah of like. something but we just don't know what. we're there you don't know who we are. perceived as you know that makes sense. because like.

I was gonna say something but I totally. slipped because but like. I forgot man it was crazy no because I. it's [ __ ] mind-blowing because I. always think [ __ ] is it are we just. meant to. to exist or are we just are we meant to. find out. like I want to like figure stuff out. yeah or are we just meant to like live. and exist are we meant to solve. something okay so okay I've got my idea. back so speaking on that like I've um.

somebody told me shout out my boy. Vincent he told me that like ideas are. all out there waiting to get out and. they're just traveling through different. people to find the person that'll bring. it to life you know because like you. ever have like a sick idea and then you. sit on it too long and then somebody. else comes in up with this exact same. idea and it pops off it blows up but. that's like that idea has been looming. around the world and it's been like. itching to like like be real yeah and it.

found it's like vessels it's a living. thing yeah it's almost like a living. thing do you think an idea is is almost. kind of like spiritual then in a way. yeah if you bag it like this oh this or. gets mind-blowing ready if you bag it. the idea of emson or the idea of what. Gavin is you create it so like you're. literally forming the idea of who Gavin. is the idea of who Carlos is for me the. idea of who emson is like that idea is.

living through you so it becomes you. create like what you are pretty much. yeah like it becomes and that's the idea. yeah that's a sort of a manifest thing. is right it's like you see that version. of you and then you're gonna like do. everything in your power to become that. version of you so the per like the. person you are in 10 years is an idea. from the present if you think about it. like that. think about it wait wait say that one. more time so the person you were gonna. be in 10 years yeah.

was an idea that you had now because the. idea of like the person that you are had. to exist so like I could have an idea of. myself being like a Millionaire right I. had to exist it's just an idea right now. but it becomes real when I'm actually a. millionaire and that's that's when it. becomes a reality you know yeah I think. I think that's what it is I think that's. what life is like what was your like um. you know when you're in kindergarten and. they say what do you want to be when you. grow up did you have that sure would you.

have the funniest one bro what did you. say I said I want to be a taxi cab. driver. yeah I don't know why okay well I. thought I thought only like I thought. that's like I remember drawing a car and. like I just wanted to drive I didn't. know that meant taxi cab driver and then. my teacher was like oh you want to drive. taxis I'm like I guess so yeah because I. didn't know better right yeah but really. I just wanted to drive yeah because I. feel like you know how you guys said. like manifestation is so spiritual I. feel like from birth they're already. trying to put you down like they're.

trying to break that spiritual energy. you know I mean I think so like Society. holds you yeah so it's like the the. people that grow up and take that risk. obviously Escape we can say escape the. matrix but it's like they live the best. life because that's what they planned. out to do that's what fills their Spirit. you know what I mean like they're much. happier than the people working you know. like when people say like do what makes. your heart full yeah yeah exactly that. makes sense well if you really like. think about it like. um oh [ __ ] I forgot what I was gonna say. sorry that happens a lot okay.

um but like what are we talking about. sorry no we're like manifestation yeah. manifesting [ __ ] oh just oh well like. yeah because like you know when we have. like you know you ever have like you. ever see those religions or certain like. shows like in Avatar yeah you know how. they find who The Avatar is like. Airbender like they give them a set of. toys and then whichever like oh they're. interested in that's the Avatar because. every Avatar has picked the exact same. toy from the time you know so do you.

think we kind of like find out what like. we do you think we figure out what we. want to do or was it just coded in us. you know what's crazy it's so it's so. crazy you say this because because when. I was a kid and like I used to do. presentations and [ __ ] every single time. I spoke there was something that felt. like yo I'm supposed to like do I'm. supposed to speak really well right now. and it was especially the because I. wasn't a good student where like I would. do [ __ ] last minute yeah yeah but the. the ones that I knew I was so good at.

regardless of how much effort I put in. was presentations and speaking speeches. all of that [ __ ] like that's your thing. it just came it just came like almost. like came naturally yeah. you just feel it in your bones like it's. an instinct yeah that's what it felt. like yeah and and I think. I think it was almost it was almost like. telling me because at the time I was mad. shy I was so funny same same [ __ ]. awkward and [ __ ] and I I wouldn't even. dare to want to see myself in that type.

of position. but I guess me being good at those. certain events made me see differently. yeah you know it's a different type of. vibe because I remember I went into like. the speech competition super introverted. I don't know why as soon as I got into. the mic I started like being funny and. like having that reaction of the crowd. is so filling it's like it filled my. spirit like I'm just man's listening to. me it was crazy it's like that Maslow's. hierarchy of needs it's like social like. social acceptance is kind of like a.

natural need for some people but for. some people like it doesn't really. matter but for people like like us like. we like we like that stuff we don't let. it control Our Lives to like yeah the. point where we control what we say but. like it's it feels nice to have that. like affirmation from people and why. does that feel good to us but not to. others like why do people some people. not like attention and why do some. people like it I think it's it's how. you're raised though you think so I. think it's exactly how you're raised. like you weren't getting enough. attention from your parents type [ __ ] no. I was getting attention but there's some.

people exactly like who grow up loving. attention because they'd never had it. yeah but there's people who love. attention because they always had it. um interesting I guess it just depends. on the person I guess it depends that's. why it's kind of like how you think like. like psychos are like turned you know. like were they always just like. something in their mind was just always. crazy or was it out of like nurture like. is it nature versus nurture like Ted. Bundy you know like people like like I. don't know his like story you know like.

I don't know what happened in his like. past or what his facts are whatever. happened to him like growing up but like. some people think like people are just. like that like do you think people are. just a certain way just because. that's hard I think I think like as. [ __ ] up as it sounds. there has to be kind of really evil. people in the world for us to see the. difference yeah like if there was no. terrible people in the world. that idea of something scary would exist.

in another way and it manifested in that. way so it doesn't have to be done again. yummy yeah and I guess like Society can. learn from its mistakes or learn like. from its tragedy. and we can kind of like stop it and. prevent it well in like like the Bible. and stuff wasn't like weren't we already. weren't we supposed to be like perfect. like no evil and then when we like. accepted like sin after or something. something like that I think into the. world after it was already perfect yo.

because this is from Adam and Eve yeah. so you know this right so like after the. Apple then we became original sin like. we all have sin though yeah so I feel. like. okay first of all would you want to even. live in a perfect perfect world no evil. no I don't think there is a perfect. world though because like have you ever. watched it I said yes though wait yes. everyone will want that because I saw on. Twitter recently someone was like man we. could have just been like cute little. people making art and eating fruit but.

instead we have credit score and taxes. no no but you always see this you always. see this like there's nothing such a. perfect life because if you don't see. the lows how are you gonna appreciate. the highs exactly let me get to my point. yeah check this [ __ ] out so yes right. here the world right now we need to have. that [ __ ] happening why. so that paradise when you get there you. appreciate it yeah because if you didn't. if you didn't see terrible things when.

you go to paradise how do you compare. yeah that's the beauty of your life man. I think you said this poem was like oh. God you weren't with me um uh walking. through the sand my whole life and stuff. like that because there was only like. two footsteps and then he was like God. was like no that was my footsteps out. and I was holding you I carried you on. my back like that's the beauty of Life. fam like you have to see the highs and. lows you guys ever watched the good. place the good place. yo Sahara was telling me something about. it like the girl in hell like just like. everything like just like I didn't watch.

it. do you guys care if I like kind of like. spoil spoil it I'm not gonna watch it. yeah so essentially like a premise is. the good place is about like have like. like it's basically like heaven and hell. but instead of saying that it's the good. place and the bad place so basically. it's like these people trying to get out. of like like the bad place and trying to. get into the good place after dying and. like do and like what what makes a good. person what makes cause like you could. say like you could live your whole life. like good but like what is good but then.

you could be in the bad place after. because like you used a cell phone that. was made by slaves in next place but. you're not bad yeah because you you were. like you know like you weren't promoting. like serious slavery or anything like. that of people making your phones but. you never did anything wrong with your. life but since you bought a phone it was. made by slaves is that yeah so was that. bad yeah so like they're trying to find. like the middle ground there and so fast. forward fast forward to like the ending. they all make it to the good place but. it sucks because everyone's always happy.

like and then what happens you have. eternal happiness and then and then what. like you live for like that's why to me. I'm always what scares me isn't death. it's eternity. you know because like that doesn't scare. you when you live forever I know exactly. what you mean like what feeling do you. have left. in your in your own life once you've. done everything like anything you could. possibly imagine like go-karting with. monkeys I know exactly what's next and. like you could do infinite amount of.

things but like there's always you're. always going to be looking towards. something because like forever doesn't. feel like peace but can you accomplish I. think I think forever does feel like. peace because it's infinite yeah but. it's just like you know it's more like. sometimes like I feel like our spirit. just will tire out one day you know what. do you mean like once we've like like I. said like how where's spirits on a human. Journey just Spirits just coastling to. life doing everything possible it like. in the universe and if it could take.

eons to like figure that out but I feel. like once our spirit kind of feels full. and satisfied I think that'll be like. our time for like to just release us as. energy I don't think we can ever get. failed this is what I think this is what. I think I think with this what heaven is. it's Paradise yeah but you can choose to. help back here okay so I really believe. like there's some there's some Guardian. Angels fixing things going out there.

like seeing who they affected while. their time on Earth happened and they're. trying to like watch over people like a. mentor yeah almost like that see so okay. so spoilers for the good place if you're. watching it right now or if you're. planning to watch it skip it but at the. very end this is the pro that's this is. the exact problem is they're they're not. happy because everything is too perfect. everything like there it's it's too long. so their alternative was once they. finally felt fulfilled with everything.

as a spirit and have lived for eons they. could go through this door that just. gives the energy back into the universe. and then they're not just that that. spirit anymore it just goes. and then they then that energy turns. into something else into a different. Spirit into something else. but like it resets. but like you're finally like giving it. all up like yourself your entire. experience of eons of experience you're. giving it up because you finally feel. like content but what were they doing. during these eons of years though that.

that they said that it's repetitive so. in in the good place what what you can. do is anything like so you can go. through these doors and you can go. anywhere in the world the universe you. can create any scenario you you'd ever. want like you could be a Naruto yeah. yeah you could have have Pokemon be real. and like yeah so like eons eons of that. like what else can you think of. you know no it's crazy what if this is. it right here that this is the this is. what this is exactly what you wanted to. do because it's a it's a perfect balance. of good and bad challenge yeah and good.

oh that's a good one so what your soul. really wanted it's right here is is the. perfect balance of both. do you think that's why life is so hard. I I wouldn't say even like do you think. life is hard I don't I don't look at. life hard I look at it as. yeah because then I always think like. why why is our lives like meant to be. like like it's such a structure you know. and I feel like there's been such a.

structure like put upon us I feel like. we could be such free beings doing. whatever we want but we have rules we've. got all these stuff that make life a. little bit more tougher than it should. be you know yeah like why do we have War. why do we have credit scores and taxes. and all of this stuff to like hold us. back from like what we could actually. like accomplish together that's that's. the balance of life though yeah so like. do you think like do you think that's. that this world that we're living in. right now is a perfect world then yeah I.

think it is no I don't think so so you. don't think this is the paradise that. I'm looking for like that was just a. theory I said but like I don't think. that's what it is I think I think. Paradise is literally like like paradise. happy yeah like you guys ever watched. that what's that one movie with like. Emma Watson the world's ending it's all. the celebrities oh oh this is the end. this is the end yeah yeah they all die. and then they're all like in like heaven. and they're like all living their own. Paradise you know like how that depicts. stuff is that like you're kind of like.

depiction or is it is yours different. from everyone I feel like if you don't. think this this world right now isn't. the is in Paradise then I don't think. you're grateful enough no you know what. I mean because it's like that's not what. I mean by it what I mean is. like God can grant so much better things. that you can't see right now that's the. way I see it it's like those like. pictures where he's like it's like God. asking a child to give him his give her. the toy but she doesn't want to let it. go but he has an even better toy behind. it exactly yeah exactly what what better.

toy is it like see he grants me life. what is better than life it's what you. would try to achieve so a lot of people. are comfortable and I think. once you're comfortable that's that's. where it ends no matter what like let's. say you want it to be something you're. comfortable oh okay that's it yeah. that's it God's Not Gonna help you the. moment you ask God I want to do this I. want to do all of this boom say less. challenge challenge challenge challenge. challenge challenge.

and then now you're jumping up [ __ ] yeah. what Mario type [ __ ] you know what I. mean jumpers be jumping yeah all of. these levels and then that's the stuff. that tests you and then now you can try. to achieve them. we have to ask for it you have to ask. for it and you have to you actually have. to have the you have to put the idea out. there the idea that's what it is you. have to find the actual I guess reason. the the almost purpose the purpose for. you to go ahead and do it because if.

it's just like because if you think this. is Paradise and everything is easy like. this boom it is for you yeah but. everybody's different yeah so I think. depending on who that person is. that's why a lot of people do amazing. things about other people are calm. because they're doing that they're. content they're comfortable some people. like that nine to five some people. exactly some people don't want more and. people want more yeah and I think the. people that really challenge like even. when it doesn't make sense to challenge. are the ones that achieve the most it's.

like when people like how nowadays. people kind of like promote delusion. like or the Lulu like let's be. delusional together because I'm like why. why be why live content with what we. have when we could be delusional and. live these dreams that we don't know are. possible that's not even delusional in. life it's just believing in like. yourself and like I feel like it's just. why not like in a world where we can. create anything why not you know it's. just why not yeah because like for my.

opinion I was gonna I was gonna put this. on threads before but I was gonna put if. my confidence doesn't make other people. uncomfortable then I'm not confident. enough I feel that but it's so true. because you see these people that do. amazing things and you feel. uncomfortable because they've done those. things yeah now that's how you know. they've reached that level in my opinion. because it shows other people like damn. it makes them question themselves like. can I can I can I right and that putting.

the idea onto somebody makes them see. life differently just by their presence. yeah but yo but they paint delusion in. this generation as something they can't. achieve no more like you know what like. oh I'm deluded about that that guy but. he'll never kill that he'll never want. to mess with me fem that's the wrong way. that's the wrong way because when you. call it delusion then you then it's not. gonna yeah yeah exactly that's what I'm. saying it's just it's just why does it. have to be delusion why can't it just be. real real yeah exactly it's stupid like.

every like and people like like oh. you'll never be this but like people. have done it before so isn't that proof. enough for you there's enough there's. enough dumbasses that go out there and. become rich so like what what's stopping. them yeah it's just people they they. hate on it it's because they're they're. scared themselves and they don't want to. see others be able to do it because they. want to try it but things hold them back. like themselves so they can look at you. as a oh if I did that that's what. happened to me that's what they're. looking for they're paying for you to. fail because like they it reassures them.

that that they chose the right exactly. exactly and then that's what cowards. love the most Dave Chappelle said it the. best he's like when a hero when a hero. Falls. the cowards Rejoice. because you know how like everybody like. always looks like any like any time. there's a new like celebrity or somebody. coming up it's always like praise praise. praise and then us there's always those. people waiting for that moment they like.

[ __ ] up and then everybody's attack. everybody hates them all of a sudden oh. oh they were always like that oh I. always like saw them as this bad person. oh this I I can't believe you guys. didn't see this before yeah I literally. remember there was a podcast out there. where I cried right but we never. released it but I asked Carlos I want to. ask you to do you like being in the. spotlight because being in the spotlight. means that there's going to be hundreds. and hundreds of people criticizing your. every move but you pre but a lot of. people pray for that Spotlight right.

I like the spotlight but I like my. privacy you know I like the spotlight. when it's on me like but it's like I. show them what like I want them to see. you know what I mean and like I like. having eyes on me I guess like I'm not. gonna lie and say I don't like attention. like yeah like I do like some like the. whole reason people crack jokes is to. make people laugh right and and when you. make people laugh you get like like. validation that like oh I'm funny yeah. yeah yeah and I like making people happy.

you know what I mean so I'd say like. yeah I do like being in the spotlight. and like I don't I feel like for most. people people are are afraid because of. like judgment or or what if they counsel. me for some random ass [ __ ] that like. doesn't really matter you know what I. mean or like all this you just can't. like. see it as like Spotlight as in terms of. like getting validation from people it's. just Spotlight just to want it like. that's just what I want not because of. other people because I think they'll be. happy yeah yeah you're not trying to.

like be in the spotlight to like to do. something to do something yeah and the. people that want it just to want it get. it but if you want it just to have the. fame to have eyes on you just to just. for other status reasons and for other. people's validation then it's not going. to go like the right way it's not. fulfilling yeah yeah exactly it won't be. free because you'll have it and then. what yeah like you're you have the. validation now what where's the. validation that you give yourself yeah. yeah yeah you read so much of that [ __ ].

because I remember I went to church I. think it was last Sunday and I probably. had the most spiritual like experience. ever because every time now like I. prayed that um I would have the. spotlight and stuff like that but I feel. like [ __ ] now God is giving me this but. so many people have been commenting. about my me as myself right so every. time I went to church I prayed for. protection from these comments and. judgments right and I just started. crying like sobbing right and then I. said Yo God if you're with me like can. you touch my left shoulder and I felt.

like something I was like [ __ ] like like. please just keep protecting me from. everything yeah I don't read comments no. more like I don't read like you told me. I don't read the good or bad and then. what you told me is like yo just let. Gavin be Gavin like those two together. like I can never fail after yeah with. God's protection you can't it's like. that that say like as I walk through the. valley of Shadow and death I know that I. can something something because God's. with me you know what I mean but yeah no. no weapon shall be formed against me. yeah or Prosper no weapon shall prosper. against me because you just but like.

see like do you think it's because you. like prayed for that yeah because you. you yourself really like comfortable. with it yeah it became comfortable. because it's probably both yeah it's. probably both because I paid for it but. as soon as I got comfortable those times. were probably the most depressing times. of my life sometimes I think it's more. so like you just need to say it to the. universe yeah and have someone to talk. to and I feel like for some people that. like are very religious like God's that. outlet like for you God's that outlet. right yeah and sometimes you just need. to like talk to him to like reassure.

your own no real self right yeah yeah. and because like that's everything comes. with it from within right yeah if you. get if you get all your validation if. you get everything. like in your life that makes you happy. from other sources then this is not. gonna be fulfilled it has to come from. you it's like it's like if you if you. put it in like a very technical sense. it's like would you rather have a device. that needs batteries or that can charge. itself exactly yeah that's just very. efficient energy you know and I feel.

like that's what fulfillment is to. ourselves you know like do you like do. you feel like people. who like do you think of people with big. egos. um are the type to are like have big. egos because of themselves like do you. think yeah let me elaborate like do you. think Eagle is bad no no I don't think. ego is bad but I think it I think it's. it's bad to a point yo elaborate Lucifer. fell because of pride.

for me but do you think it what's the. negative connotation of ego and what's. the positive of ego you have to have. enough to believe in yourself but not. enough to hurt others that's perfect. right there yeah I mean yeah because the. moment you you hurt others like. detrimentally that's a different story I. think you're better yeah yeah or put. other people down exactly that's. different yeah but bringing your ego up. just from yourself is like a different. type that's a different type yeah but. there's there's a there's a line of that. and for the greatest example is Kanye.

yeah I was just thinking about the. biggest ego of all and it's like what. you said is like if my confidence. doesn't like does it make other people. uncomfortable but there's a good and bad. with that right because depending on how. it's taken that could inspire people to. another person that makes them want to. give up uh so I guess it really depends. on who that person is and how they. perceive it but like I feel like the. negative connotation isn't like from. that person it's from the other like.

from the people like receiving it so. this is my like let's say this is my ego. I'm at the top of my game like I'm the. [ __ ] but I don't think I'm better like. I'm not better than anyone but no one is. better than me you know like I'm the. best but I'm not better than anybody. like I'm the [ __ ] so somebody could take. that like wow I want that ego like that. when you said like Inspire yeah yeah but. that's based on their perception how. they take it but then take somebody else. who sees life in like a negative yeah. and then it hurts it hurts them exactly. but it's not your fault you know it's.

not but but none of our jobs is to. please anyone exactly that's that's. nobody's job and I think I think when. when you focus on really like what your. true purpose is regardless of anybody in. the in the Limelight anybody speaking to. you any other influences then you're. gonna be doing the right thing. personally that's what I think now they. did a test it's a real test and they. they wanted to test uh the the. frequencies of how people reacted they. actually hooked people up like.

neurologically right now the first one. they did they want to see what emotion. would give off the highest number so. they did sadness obviously it was low. they did happiness obviously it was high. guess what the highest one was. uh uh anger one of the highest ones was. gratitude and like being grateful oh. yeah yeah that was one that was like one. of the highest yeah but. the most like this is the super power.

one was. being authentic oh uh so what's the. difference between that so when someone. was. the most like themselves. regardless like the literally existing. how they would exist yeah regardless of. anything else yeah like any any person. any comment any like. um interest they're into they're exactly. themselves yeah and that gave off the. highest frequency like the truest idea.

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how like Spider-Man's a thing with like. Canon events right. do you guys think have you guys have. like ever lived like an event where you. think that's supposed to happen and then. you just came out like feeling just so. like. like. euphoric where just like not even like. happy just. like you feel like you could die today. and like nothing and like you wouldn't. even care damn there's been moments I. had that in in like true I guess Bliss.

like I had like moments of Life yes yeah. like Bliss like there's there's moments. that I was [ __ ] sitting at the park. and damn this is some real [ __ ] you know. but like a Canon event isn't just like. Bliss though it's like something that. changes it changes your life right yeah. yeah sorry that might not be like the. best example yeah but like I just. remember because from my experience if. like maybe this will help you guys like. form an idea okay but that day like I. had like that conversation in the. bathroom like from early like earlier. when I released all that it was kind of. like an ego death.

word yeah like just talking that's just. talking like I admitted like every. single line not I told about people but. like I told about my to myself because. the per the the worst person you can lie. to is yourself yeah because you know. it's true but you're fighting it yeah. it's an internal battle that's what I. feel like like depression and anxiety. mostly is is the internal battle in. yourself not even with other people or. outside things so yeah when I was. finally able to just release it admit it.

like everything became so clear like. Crystal Clear Clarity in my head like I. like I felt like I could just like like. there was just nothing like bothering me. nothing in my head at all like head. empty no thoughts. it's just who I am yeah but not in like. a way of like oh I feel content like oh. I feel like oh happy like I literally. felt like I remember after we had the. talk it was like five in the morning-ish. like or four in the morning so this is. what happened so this is like my Canada.

event so that conversation is my kind of. event because it led to all these things. it literally lined up so perfectly so I. remember I went to bed like everybody. was in this cabin so there's like 20 of. us everyone went to bed I slept on the. couch by myself in the living room I was. like okay let me just for somebody I. just wanted to play music yeah for some. reason like I just connected with music. and emote yeah yeah and for some reason. I put shuffle every like most powerful. song that like all my favorite songs. every song that ever impacted my life.

played back to back to back to back like. if you put my life in the playlist it. was that wow for 10 songs straight like. freaking Living Single Big Sean yeah uh. runaway Kanye West like all of that. should have like played back to back and. I was just like I felt like every word. like I felt like I felt like I was going. through my life in my head and just. everything it just felt so clear and I. wasn't thinking the crazy thing is I. didn't have a single thought yeah I was. just feeling like truly feeling with no.

thought in my in my head and then after. that I went outside it was sunrise most. beautiful like thing I've ever seen I. took a picture I've never seen anything. like that I felt so like like at peace. like yeah true inner peace like my body. felt like it was just gonna float and. then like I just remember like thinking. like fine like the first thought in my. head that finally came up after all of. those motion was like if I die like I. wouldn't care like this is from a deep. talk right yeah like it like spiraled in. yeah because you never know how it like.

how things go for you yeah yeah some. people you talk to and that impacts your. life yeah so I remember that day I was. just like yo. if I died today like I actually wouldn't. care like I am like the happiest and. most peace I am right now if you if God. took me back today I wouldn't mind yeah. have you as ever had that like feeling. ever yeah I've like all the deep talks I. think I've I've gone with people because. I love a good detox right you do so I'm. always I'm always itching like even if. it's a stranger I'll try to get into.

into those things that they'll never. talk about but I remember one time where. I was like I had the same thing was I. was like drunk and stuff like that she. was drunk too and then there was. literally this feeling I don't know why. but everything was like perfect yes and. then you talk about your life and then. she talks about your life and I remember. there was one point where we saw like. two shooting stars and shooting stars. shooting stars you don't see like. they're rare as [ __ ] right because like. how often do you look up that's what I'm. saying so we were just like literally. there and it was like yo it was Bliss.

that's a good deep talk for me it's just. like that feeling of like. yeah I know I know exactly that feeling. bro so what if that's like that. frequency of like peace you know how. it's like we're trying to get into like. you said monks go like. to tap in yeah what if that final like. frequency of peace is just. to get deep with it though I feel like I. feel like certain people because you can. Loki achieve that like yeah any point in. your life low-key you're low-key but.

it's not it's not gonna be same if you. try to force it if someone reciprocates. that energy oh it's the best [ __ ] ever I. feel like it for me it's not about like. who's reciprocating the energy towards. me it's myself yeah I was I was gonna. say because if let's say let's say you. were super content like I don't know. where and you find like true peace um. but then nothing else that you wanted to. like go after or accomplish gets. accomplished yeah do you think God puts.

like certain things in your head on. purpose like yo you have to be worried. that you this won't come out you have to. be worried that this isn't gonna be. fulfilled you're actually feeling. like what the true feeling behind it you. know because like everything every. action we do there's a there's an. intention behind it there's a purpose. why do you do a podcast because you. because I like talking because you like. talking like why do you like talking. what's the feeling there's a lot of. people I love people and what does the. feeling of like people give you.

like what's the true like reason you do. what you do I guess it's connection. low-key connection and what this. connection with people make you feel I. guess love and then why does why does. love make you feel like like you do. because I'm a loving guy yeah it's like. kind of like like I said like our. hierarchy of needs like why do we eat. like why do we like cake you know what I. mean yeah because we like things that. taste good but why do we like things. that taste good because we like to eat. so might as well taste good but really. it comes down to like our instincts of. we need to eat you know and so it's kind.

of like our purpose like I've read this. in a book where it's just like. everything just ties like everything you. do you think that's the real purpose. that you're doing or do you think that. thing gives you purpose but you have to. break it down down into that purpose. that really gives it to you like it's. more like this is the purpose but what's. the intention behind it you know what I. mean and so like you'd really gotta like. really dig deep because like I don't. know why I do the podcast like you you. just told us it's because you love. people but truly I will never know what.

you really feel only you will ever know. that it's like you know when people say. like there's that version of you you. show to your friends version of you you. only show to yourself yeah yeah but I. feel like there's one version of you. that is. out like even it's hard for you to see. that you really have to dig really yeah. but I feel like it's a it's something. that you know that's there every day but. you deny it you know word I don't feel. that way though but like it's kind of. like anxiety you know or like you know.

the thoughts in your head yeah like you. always talk to like you have a. conscience that talks to your head like. that for me at least for me personally. that's that version of me that even I. don't even like to accept sometimes like. the anxious feeling the true version of. who I am because like I said anxiety for. me it comes from the battle Within. Myself so me and that that really small. quiet voice in the back of my head so it. only comes out when you're like alone. pretty like no just like in every every. setting because like in every setting.

I'm always like it's talking to me oh. yeah it's not like it doesn't feel like. me but it is me you know it doesn't. sound like me but it is me it's like the. true version of who I am it's like it. feels like I'm speaking to my actual. Soul you know every day and there's. always like a little thing in the back. of my head and I feel like that is the. most true form and the true idea of who. I am and like anytime like I feel like. I'm fine I'm giving I'm like giving into. it that's when I feel like I'm my truest. like self where I know everything is so.

clear I I think I think it's you can't. really like simplify it like that yeah I. feel like it's it's supposed to be like. super complex because it's a whole. person yeah and it's experiences and. [ __ ] like that like yo Loki the only. thing I'm really anxious about still to. this day is like dying dying like I. don't want to die right now like I have. [ __ ] together because you got [ __ ] to do. right I have [ __ ] to do that's like my. biggest like anxiety and I can't go I. can't go right now there's this couple. that I know where it's like they every. like year they say okay what if this was.

our last year like on Earth and it's. what it's so cool what they do is like. they write down everything that they. wanted to do and Lily for that year they. go out and do it which is so sick. because it's like yeah you never know. like when you're gonna go so it's like. death is so like comforting High key I. think that made me live How I Live yeah. because I think about it kind of often. which isn't good though like because I. have anxiety being afraid of death is. very is very tough on you yeah yeah it. and it's not that like um I guess I am. afraid but it's because I'm afraid that.

I won't be able to do what I want to do. and I guess the Way I Live Now is so. like remember I said this on podcast. maybe a couple episodes like every. single thing I do has a purpose yeah but. it's kind of bad too because it's. should I force everything to have a. purpose or am I just trying to like is. it that anxiety I won't be able to do it. I have to do it yeah yeah right so it's. like it's like a balanced thing now yeah. because I really want to make every. single thing purposeful so that I do I.

can truly say like I did what I wanted. to do do you guys remember when you got. you first like started fearing death. because I feel like that's not like such. a thing you I think it was like six I. think it was like six years old say I. was like seven years before bedtime bro. really what are your two thoughts well. like I just remember watching like there. was this I don't know what Fairly. OddParents episode I think it was like. where he wished that he didn't exist. type thing and so like I started to. think about that and then I was like you. know what like in a couple years I'm. gonna be gone like my family's gonna be.

gone holy everything's gonna be gone and. when everything's gone like when. everything is taken away from you who. are you as a person you know yo you know. what like if I really try to freaking. psychological breakdown on myself you. saying that it makes me think I think. it's a concept of me wanting to live. forever because that's why I want to do. all these things because I want to like. solidify a legacy why do I want to like. because I'm breaking it down how you. said why do I want a legacy. I don't know because I want to be you.

want to go here you want I know I still. want to be here somehow somehow exactly. yeah exactly but like it's like would. you be like let me ask you if you die. today would you be would you be okay. with it no. if it I mean it's I wouldn't I wouldn't. be okay with but I would be okay with it. if it happened like like it's not my. choice. it's not my choice right if God said. like this is this is how how it plays. out that's how it goes yeah God's plan. is greater than mine.

is there a party that will be. disappointed. I [ __ ] got scared bro God out of. panic attack because I was like yo what. if and it scared me Fam like I was dead. ass like this is the biggest panic. attack I ever had and I started thinking. like. yo what if I what if I go early yeah if. I die early like X yeah yeah nobody. really cared about him until he died he. passed and he became even more important. then I got scared I'm like [ __ ] would.

God take me because I would be more. important dead. because that's what you want to solidify. your legacy that's why I was scared yeah. holy [ __ ] and then I started thinking no. like I have to do more there's more. meaning you feel like you still have a. mission here just have a mission yeah. bro I remember I capped so hard so we. were an influencer event yeah and these. these guys were like I'm talking about. how oh yeah followers followers and [ __ ]. like that right so there's a video of me. saying this I was like oh if I die right. now I'd be so happy because I influenced. a bunch of kids to do good and.

everyone's looking at me like what the. [ __ ] and I know it myself like if I die. right now fam I still got [ __ ] to do but. I dropped that bar I felt so proud. because like at the same time it's like. if I die right now like pray to God I. don't like I would still be content that. a lot of kids watch us I had some. influence or or like my clothes traveled. to places that I never went to you know. so that's why I would be still happy. that's all but like that like like yeah. you you kind of like said that story. like oh like it was a funny thing but. that's just the true human yeah.

it came from Summer right and like I. said like you don't know where it came. from like but it's always been there you. know like you truly feel like like you. know what I did Influence People I did. help people out my clothes did make it. up yeah yeah you know but like like in. this generation when people say like oh. I don't know what I'm doing with my life. that's such a they [ __ ] on that but it's. like okay you as a 22 year old you're. not supposed to know everything that's. exciting bro Loki when I hear someone. like oh I don't want I don't know what I. want to do that's looking exciting. because you can't do anything yeah that.

means like you're a blank you're a blank. canvas right now like you can literally. choose exactly how you're going to be. put into motion like for me I'm already. on the way like how I'm painting my. picture but your picture you don't even. pick the brush yet like you can really. do anything the the mind is only like so. I mean there's nothing really holding. you back yeah do you think it's because. like parents live different and there's. so many different ways to live now is. that why you think I think because. before our parents like just how life.

was back then it wasn't about like what. we wanted for ourselves it was more so. just to like survive yeah because like. for my parents at least every immigrants. obviously moved to Canada with like zero. dollars it was about like working to. survive to have a fat to like have. enough money to have food on the table. have a family they weren't thinking. about having enough having enough money. to become a YouTuber yeah fulfill their. dreams they they did the job to like. survive you know but I feel like. nowadays like that's why I never take.

that for granted like I'm blessed that. they did that for me because now I can. live without having to like yes I still. have to live to survive but I still have. the freedom to do whatever I want you. know what I mean but because like every. kid was usually given an iPad or a phone. when they were so young I feel like. that's why we changed so much now and. it's like oh yeah I want to be that. YouTuber because since a child you were. put that in your hands yeah so it's like. no it's like uh oh when are you gonna. get that degree now this generation is. gonna be like oh when you're gonna start.

that YouTube channel you know what I. mean like like [ __ ] change like [ __ ]. changes. that is that is a thing now yeah it is a. thing when you see around people people. always like yeah I'm gonna go like start. a yeah when are you gonna drop content. like that's all it is now it's kind of. like oh what are you gonna go to college. yeah you know what I mean when are you. finally gonna get that degree when are. you gonna do this but it's like now but. see like that's the thing like why is. that such a pressure because YouTube. before you should just be it used to. just be a thing like it doesn't didn't. have like the pressure on it yeah yeah. now it does I feel like because I think.

it's because. people do it for different reasons yeah. a lot of people they even just do it. just for money yeah even just for like. to to be recognized to be like I guess. famous whatever but. I think the ones that really I guess. stay or stick around are the ones that. they had something else they're trying. to put out not that's not like. Dependable on monetary or. fulfillment through like attention is. something else that they're trying to.

like put out there for the sake of art. word because once once you start work. once you start worrying about that. monetary stuff then it just becomes a. job because you're working for that. money so no one wants so now you're not. even working to yeah just have fun now. you're working like your parents working. to survive exactly yeah. but I need I feel like anything becomes. like that just depending on how you look. at it yeah it depends you know like when. you and it's hard you know everybody's. comes from different situations some. people are really born into poverty and.

it's tough to make it tough bro like I. like as much as like I like say like I. work hard I'm also blessed you know that. I was put in the position to be able to. do this like all the cards lined up so I. could be here yeah some people like. can't have the cars line up but it's so. tough that like it literally will break. your spirit and it's like whether you. have the will to go through all of that. and make it to the end or if you're just. gonna let that like break your spirit. and like you can like it won't like. it'll just demotivate you to doing it.

you know and that's why that's why like. I see certain people that's done [ __ ]. battles in their career and I give so. much more respect because I think about. how much battles it would have taken. them to get there because a lot of. people they just see oh Drake's doing. good like oh he's he's famous blah blah. I wonder how many times that you wanted. to quit yeah I wonder how many times. like [ __ ] didn't go his way or he. thought like I would never do it I would. never make it exactly but usually people.

just see what's going on right now yeah. they don't see like what it took to get. there exactly like the the dirt the. ground yeah like like literally like it. takes like people always say like. overnight success but it takes a. Thousand Nights to become an overnight. success you know what I mean because. like that that doesn't happen you know. some cases some cases you get lucky you. know I mean there's there's definitely. outliers see like I wanna I wanna say. that like let's say Charlie devillier. everybody says overnight success right. no but she faces all their [ __ ] though.

there's other problems that come with it. that she didn't foresee think about it. like this if she was never an actual. like dancer in her in her past would she. be would she still be the Charlie who. knows like those thousands of hours of. dance she put in back in the day maybe. yeah the [ __ ] was just the outlet that. made it seem like it was overnight but. really she had hour of like blood. sweaters I don't know what she's going. through but she has her own hardships. right you know and everybody does that's. why I don't like anyone who like blows. up anymore I try not to like like be. like oh like they're just blue because.

they're industry Planet because you. don't know you don't ever really know. who really knows like you don't know. yeah he was just calling Bobby an. industry. oh did I yeah. but we had a conversation yeah we just. had a conversation. yeah I changed my mind still I changed. my mind but but low-key. like you can she isn't industry plan is. an industry period yeah like if they got. plug [ __ ] they got plugged yeah [ __ ].

well I'm not discrediting anything else. she tried to achieve because maybe she. her original plan wasn't that type of. content and she was struggling with. other type there's other internal. battles fam yeah like isn't she like a. mom she's like a mama three yeah she's. like a monster imagine all the [ __ ] all. the stress she has to face first yeah. being a mother is like what's wrong with. being an industry plan you know what I. mean yeah yeah I I would I'd be blessed. to be an industry. I don't lie it's kind of sick would you. okay so have you ever watched like the.

show eat both of you like Severance nah. you always talk about this yeah. so basically Severance is when you sever. their brain where it's half one half of. your brain is only work life and one of. it is just your regular life so let's. say let's say podcast right that. wouldn't be possible for me yeah but. like well because you like it right oh. yeah but for people with like nine to. five right some people don't want to. remember work so everything at work that. happens at work only your work self.

remembers that and they don't remember. anything from your personal life but you. and your personal life doesn't remember. anything that happens in your work life. all you know is like the personal stuff. yeah so then it becomes like the ethical. question of like is that even ethical to. separate your brain because the your. work self only experiences work like the. negative things yeah yeah you know what. I mean no I don't think I would want so. that's like the night people thing in. Rick and Morty you remember you're. talking about this so the night people. um Rick invented this thing called the. night person okay and pretty much he.

came to Morty one day and he's like look. at my abs I got six pack abs like what. the [ __ ] how'd you get six pack oh I. think I seen this so he said oh I have a. night person this this night person he. works out for me when I'm asleep but. what happened is all of them ended up. like the whole family got night people. yeah but the night people started. wanting to have the longer have their. have their life outside of what they. wanted to do yeah because they became. conscious that's exactly what happens in. like the show like no spoilers but like.

let's say because like there's like the. way they the way they show it is like. once they exit the door to work they. come back right in because they don't. know what happens right now yeah yeah it. happens outside so it's just always work. and they're like clawing to get like. that have their own life. but then the head office person is like. you have your own life and you chose to. sever it this is your choice because. this was never forced on anyone each of. these people that severed their brain. was by choice like they were either. trying to escape something like grief. like they didn't want to think about.

like work or they didn't want to think. about grief so they severed their brain. so like it cuts that part of their life. out yeah would you ever in your life if. you had the option if like a bad. experience would you want if you had the. choice to cut that out completely would. you do it yeah like what would you do if. you had a night person. I don't know I would probably cut it. like I would want the Bad and the good. together you know I mean though look if. like say I lift up my shoes and I have. abs now but I didn't work for that that. doesn't count it doesn't feel like it. wasn't perfect you did work for it but.

you just don't remember you still. remember no I wouldn't want that I. wouldn't want that that would be like. such a contradicting my brain like. low-key there's some [ __ ] I would want. to do I'm not gonna like there's some. [ __ ] but like we're talking as a whole I. don't think I would be. um like um my life wouldn't be full like. because you'd have the destination. without the dirt yeah yeah that's. exactly it that's exactly it I don't. know looky there's some there's some. like Filler episodes famine like washing. the dishes. that's the problem with Rick and Morty. they're like you didn't rinse your. dishes like rinse your dishes at least.

and we'll wash them no this one filler. [ __ ] in my life that I'm like you know. what but at the same time that's the. type of [ __ ] that once I have enough. money I will eliminate you know I mean. like I'll buy my time yeah yeah because. that's what remember I said this is. where my dentist way back in. my dentist you pretty much said he. doesn't he doesn't spend his money. necessarily on luxury but he spends on. buying more time yeah yeah so that you. can choose what you want to do with it. whether it be like with your family or.

whether it be for yourself is you buy. time as in. hiring people to do things that you. don't have to do personal chef if you. don't like to cook if you don't like to. cook now you have time to to cuddle with. your with your kids or whatever right. like personal drivers so you can still. do stuff in the car exactly you know how. much [ __ ] I've done like an Uber because. I Uber everywhere right yeah like I'm. literally working like honestly. answering emails and [ __ ] I'm in an Uber. fam yeah because I came from a drivable. City like I can't walk it's not walkable.

at all you have to drive everywhere so. like if you don't have your license. you're you're [ __ ] you know what I. mean everybody everybody in my city if. you don't have no license you get. clowned yeah because you can't don't you. can't go anywhere yeah but once I moved. here and I started transiting everywhere. holy the amount of like much more time. that yeah you're kind of just chilling. 30 minutes here and back that's an hour. of your day yeah and like back home like. if I drove like 30 minutes and like an. hour total of driving I'm just like this. yeah yeah like that's the only option I. have but now that I have more time it.

feels more blessed like I feel like even. an hour. feels like wow like I have an extra hour. because I feel like most people like if. one Freedom that they just can't grasp. is the freedom of time like they're. always like oh I gotta do this that I. gotta take care of my kids and I gotta. cook dinner and then I have no time for. myself and that's how people get. depressed yeah because they have all. these other like priorities and other. things that they have to take care of. but it takes up all their time yeah you. know what I mean and then like it hurts. them because what do you do when you.

have no time for yourself yeah that's. why I [ __ ] hate wasting time now yeah. like at least if I'm doing something to. waste time it's fulfilling I guess my. mental health to calm down exactly. because I guess those are the times like. I need to and if I don't like luck time. wasted is only wasted when you see it as. wasted yeah you know oh you're wasting. time playing video games no but look you. need this on time yeah you need that. [ __ ] you know and like I get Social with. my friends is that really wasting if I'm. happy yeah exactly you know what I mean. that's why I used to hate like when my. parents was like say that like it'd be.

like mom always be like oh you're always. playing games always watching videos but. it's like all that culminated to who I. am today the idea of me real [ __ ] yeah. so was it really a waste because I. wouldn't be where I am right now if that. wasn't for that fam you know how much. [ __ ] movies I watched like in high. school I don't care and my my mom and. dad would have said like you're wasting. time like do your homework and [ __ ] yeah. you know how much movies I I brought. back to them. and Concepts all around you it's all. from movies bro like you're mostly like.

a lot of your life is like influenced by. media like yeah anime like like the. lessons from that and stuff like from. anime like Scarface or Kill Bill like. that's like their big influences and. stuff like like what are like the movies. that like change your life like not. change your life but like feel like. shapes you oh Karate Kid top three top. three uh Ferris Bueller word good one. Ferris Bueller's Day Off uh Kill Bill. volume one and I want to say um. [ __ ] is is this is this old movie with.

these kids. so there's these kids and pretty much. this is a really this is like one of the. best 80s movies ever but there's these. kids and they just want to go on an. adventure and recently they heard. there's a boy same age as them that he. ran away from home and he died somewhere. and the theory was like yo he probably. died by the train track and we should go. look for him because his body's missing.

they don't know where you went so they. went on the adventure to go look for. this kid but it was one of those Soul. like heartfelt type of movies where it's. it's really just kids together doing. what they would have done on an. adventure just like that and it was just. a lot of like what they're talking about. at the time sharing experiences what. they think about like life when they. grow up and I don't know right now that. is us that's how we're talking about. right now it's and it's a really good. example of just um I guess living like. it was a great like living movie that.

made sense just like life. another one like that is um [ __ ]. Dazed and Confused. it's another one that's one of Quentin. Tarantino's favorite it's called a. hangout movie but literally all that. happens in the movie is they just. hanging out they literally just hang out. no but it's [ __ ] fire it's like. movies about nothing it's literally is. Loki about nothing this [ __ ] that. happens in it but it's just fire I don't. know how to explain it it's like we like. watching vloggers like nothing really. happens but they're just living no but.

vlogging is different because it's kind. of they kind of plan [ __ ] to go out. right right I guess so but in in a sense. of like a story that it's just like it. just feels it look it like the movie's. like a memory almost yeah it is what it. is it's literally just it's it's so good. I don't remember this with your boys. about like a lot of [ __ ] that ever. happened like debrief you know yeah I'm. gonna make a movie like that one day. like I need to make a movie like that my. top three Karate Kid because I started. Taekwondo like Mike because I started. basketball and then that adoption one.

with the family I forgot the one I. forgot. whenever I want to feel like gratitude I. always go back to that but that's like. my comfort movie you know what I mean. yeah in the comfort movie the ones that. make you feel like you feel like you. know what I mean I think that's what. Comfort movies are it's just like what. really like shapes you but what sucks. back to that yeah but what sucks is like. you know how you have like your comfort. song or your comfort movie that you. always go to and then like say like a. girl breaks up with you right and you.

would go back to that Comfort movie what. sucks is that once a traumatic event. happens and you go back to that Comfort. movie you can't go back to it again oh. look it yeah it depends on you. you'll always have that memory in your. comfort movie like this is not even. comforting no more because I I feel that. dramatic moment to me if you shared it. for the reason of like that's your guys. yeah sure but if it came from you first. and nothing then nothing else should. waver that movie okay okay yeah yeah you. know what I mean because like let's say.

you watched Karate Kid with your. girlfriend yeah break up with that. ruined Karate Kid no I wouldn't no. because that's that yeah for you right. okay I'm speaking more in terms like. that was your guys. that sucks like when you can't listen to. this song anymore that's like I kind of. listen I can't listen to like come and. see me anymore sometimes yeah that's. like one of those songs like every time. okay what's your three.

Shawshank Redemption oh that's a good. one my one of my favorite movies of all. time Spider-Man one word yeah and then. Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets two oh I. don't know I don't know why I never. really watched Harry Potter I can't I. can't give like a reason why Shawshank. is like dear to me it's like a family. thing Harry Potter's like nostalgic you. think Harry Potter I think so yeah. because like that was like one of the. movies like my sister and I kind of grew. up on and that kind of like got me into. the world of like everything is magical.

yeah like it doesn't matter like oh like. that's the magical world it's just a. movie like to me it's like why could it. why is it just a movie why can't. everything be fantasmical yeah you know. why can't it be like blah blah and it's. just it's just a funny movie and I don't. know why maybe maybe it's just a feeling. but I don't know why that just feels. like it just shapes me you know this is. the humor and it felt like very like. that Spider-Man is probably the most. I feel like it's me though like the. first one like when like I love when.

Peter Parker is just down bad yeah. because I feel like for me with my life. I always think like man there's always. like some other [ __ ] that happens oh. wait there's always something you know. like there's always something but like I. like that struggle you know like when. there's always something because like I. like when it's like good for a while you. know like it's nice to Coast I don't. have any struggle but like when there's. a struggle and you're just like oh. there's always something but like. because that there's like a struggle. like I like to over I like to figure out. the person I'm gonna be after I overcome. it you know it's like it's like Peter. Parker when he's trying to figure out. how to be Spider-Man like all these oh.

all these like things he has to overcome. first then he becomes Spider-Man he's. not Spider-Man then he solves everything. he solves everything first then he's. Spider-Man yeah yeah I feel that yeah. that's why I don't understand why Gavin. hates spiders. but he's just in like movies in general. no I don't like movies especially. cartoon ones like I like anime like uh. what do you call this um Spirited Away. one of my top ones right but I don't. know why but. the the image of like just a cartoon. when it has like when I've seen the live.

action with people acting in it it just. didn't hit the same no more I have a. friend like that though yeah I have a. friend like that though he hates anime. he hates all right I don't hate anime. it's just like the style I like my. movies in a certain style you know I. mean that's why like the movies that I. said like they're all live actually like. so what did you grow up with media wise. growing up then media wise it was like. yeah so so you know um uh like when. you're growing up as a kid like the. first thing you see on TV was like the.

Umizoomi and [ __ ] like that but then. there was like live ones where they. would like read you poems and like there. was actually kids acting those hit will. hit more than the you know than the card. that doesn't hit me though right does it. hit you like that way I'm like both I. like both but it's because it depends on. what you because I saw this on like a. podcast it was like why can I emote. better when I watch anime or something. like that yeah yeah but it's like. because like for some people just like. the way you emotionally Outlet is just.

sometimes it's just it just comes out in. certain ways like when you watch movies. you know because like there'll be times. where like I should be sad at something. but I'm not sad at the moment and I. don't know why but whenever I watch like. anime or listen to a certain music. that's what I said. yeah you know and I feel like that's. what it is it's just like it's these. media like media itself is just an. outlet for your emotion yeah I think to. the point of that Gavin has a point with. style because low-key there's a lot of. directors that could direct things in an.

anime style like directing lies yeah and. it would come out in that same emotion. but that's not what's popular with live. action they wouldn't do a movie in an. anime type of I guess directing yeah. because like when you eat when you eat. it's visual first yeah it's not what it. tastes like you have to see it and yeah. you have to be hungry you know what I. mean so like if I don't see something in. my style I'm already like nah [ __ ] that. yeah. it could be the best thing ever but if. it looks gross you're not looking at it. that's what I'm saying no you know Josh.

is the opposite so he he hates seeing. live action you can't watch live action. he doesn't like live action he doesn't. like live action at all damn wow like. you watch like a couple but like he just. can't do it yeah I like to say I'm a mix. but there's certain but like you said. like you some you don't like some. cartoon stuff I don't like some live. action stuff depends on what it is like. whatever genre it's like how we don't. like certain versions like genres of. music yeah some people don't like EDM. some people don't like rap I I feel like. there's not one not that I guess there. is but every single movie that I watch I.

don't like regret watching that makes. sense okay even if it was bad even if it. was bad yeah I don't really like regret. it though yeah yeah like even if it was. terrible like I don't have an experience. yeah look it's an experience like now I. can see I can put this because I feel. the more I watch yeah and I watch hella. but the more I watch I can see the scale. and I can I can make a better judgment. of what's what. and then that's why I reach [ __ ] like. that that's why Spider-Man and. spider-verse 2 is a six one five let's.

see okay but see like uh when I went to. Rolling aloud right after Rae Sremmurd. performed I listened to their music so. much more just because of that feeling. so I want to ask you that interaction. that you have with shamik Moore does. that affect your love and passion for. Spider-Man okay oh because you didn't. have a good experience so no hate to me. bad Expo. we went to Fan Expo right and I didn't. know that this was gonna happen that. shamik Moore the voice actor for Miles.

Morales was going to be there signing. like pictures and taking pictures or. whatever blah blah blah autographs and. so I was like yo I want a video like. yeah yeah and then I I went to school. see if I was like yo there's like no. line here like he's like he's right. there I was so hyped and then as it was. going on as he's interacted more people. he was just like yeah yeah he was just. he was literally like that he's just. like this is how he said he's just like. next person is like oh like an autograph. nice yeah yeah. um.

so then I was like I was like kind of. like I was talking about girl I was like. is it me or does he look like he doesn't. want to be here. I was like you know what like okay so. what's a lifetime experience I don't. care like let's go take a picture with. it yeah your girlfriend was like you. know what you watch the movie all the. time yeah go see him I was like okay so. yeah I was like so happy I was like yeah. paid for it boom he's like one autograph. I get there he like they put it on like. a post one autograph or no one picture. and then he's got it you guys like last.

one right and I was like he's like yeah. last one of the day like I know you're. tired well you're the last one yeah I. was the last guy I was like all right. last one I was like yeah last one I know. you're tired bro and like I know you. might be like like not good no I didn't. say girl it's like tired from just like. everything but so thanks for the time. that you're yeah giving me right now and. he's like he's like yeah man had no. problem but he was just like all right. let's get it done yeah we took a picture. picture looks nice but behind the scenes. it didn't feel that way oh and like I.

don't know yet if it ruined Miles. Morales and Spider-Man for me because. you know because I feel like once you. watch it again you'll always. be like oh awesome but vez didn't want. to really meet me or talk to me you know. I I think about that all the time. whenever I meet a stranger like that. that watches a podcast yeah I always. make sure okay I have to give the best. bad experience of my life yeah every. single person exactly because I don't. know like how it's gonna affect them. when people come up to you like what's.

your like go to like when it's like oh. you're you're jumpers jump you're. getting from Jefferson what do you say I. just be like oh thank you for supporting. me I don't I don't care what I say I. match the energy yeah yeah that's what I. do [ __ ] what they're saying like not. [ __ ] what they're saying but yeah I mean. like. your head no yeah like I just wanna I. just want to connect to them on how I. would connect to them that's it yeah. because for me whatever like if anybody. ever comes up I'm always like oh like hi. I was like what's your name like I. always ask their name yeah because it. feels more personal because you know.

because like that's what I would have. wanted from shamique more like yeah. that's my name bro like how are you yeah. but it was literally like all right. let's just get it done like you know. what maybe he is tired because I was the. last one sure but for me personally I. don't think I could be like. weird man okay you wanna hear something. yo so I went I went to the comic like. writers area yeah fam. I got I got comic signed by the current. writer of Spider-Man.

nobody at his Booth because nobody. really cares right except for like the. comics yeah I was so sad for them yeah. but I finally got my uh I I got it. signed and I had a real conversation. with them like oh yo what's up my name. is Carlos I just want to introduce. myself talk about the podcast and stuff. like that and he was a genuine ass guy. and it and like he said like you said I. wish he asked my name he remembers my. name like he remembered my name when he. was talking like when you first said it. to him yeah also Carlos like yeah like.

you know what I mean that's what feels. good bro because I do that with any. interaction I have I always ask the name. because that's just not what I learned. like people just like to be recognized. yeah a person and that's the most human. it can get your name yeah yeah facts. like when he didn't even be like oh. what's your name because all I wanted to. hear was Miles Morales say my name in. The Voice mom I was like yeah now he's. gonna go to bed no his name his name to. shamik Moore was the last one yeah. [Applause].

you know it doesn't ruin Spider-Man I. don't know yeah but there are some. people that like when you meet them it. makes things better yeah yeah you know. what I mean looking when you met the. just kidding guys just kidding soup like. yeah. yeah yeah exactly like when you meet. certain people like you you just tune in. more too now like like you watch more. jumpers jump obviously you guys yeah. yeah well like uh for me artists when I.

see them live it changes it changes yeah. some people I'll see live and I don't. like it I will listen like Isaiah Rashad. nah I like I saw him live once and it. was it was mid and like now that I. listen to his music it still hits but. it's not the best bro but but. I went to see Swae Lee bro he's a. performer amazing only like 40 minutes. to an hour but he put it all in put on a. show I was literally like 25 it was like. 25 bucks for a ticket you know just get.

in line and see him I was like wow like. and now I'm like what am I listening to. like swaley like I never listened to. swaley on a daily yeah why am I losing. sweetly now yo a person uh lucky I went. to Lucky's concert and lucky does not. perform like he goes he just sits there. rubs his belly and [ __ ] like that so. like whenever I listen lucky now. it's like that's it I feel that I feel. that yeah is there anyone that ruins. stuff for you at all oh or even better. for me yeah he ruins people's uh careers.

so whenever he goes to a solo artist. concert yeah they fall off right away yo. I don't know why we can't even name it. close to home though yeah we can't even. name them yeah but like let's say let's. say an artist is popping off yeah I'll. go to their concert and all of a sudden. the artist falls off yeah baby that's. why when you didn't go to Billy eilish. the first time. no did so I was gonna go to Billy eilish. when her her tickets were 15 nobody knew.

who the [ __ ] Billy eilish was and it was. awkward right because I really really. wanted to go because I was into the. music yeah but I'm not gonna go ask my. homies. but and then my sister was too young at. the time to bring because I was like I. think I was like grade 10. yeah like. that's how early that's how early I knew. Billy Alex fam so I didn't go to her. concert when she was on the come up or. if I went to her concert. [Music].

I will end it there because we're. running out of time but thank you. everyone for watching this episode of. Jumper jump podcast thank you so much. for emson coming through our special. guest today go check out his socials. down in the description below sir uh. make sure to go on Spotify Apple make. sure to download those episodes we love. you guys man and if you guys reach the. end say yo what's up MC down in the car. all right jumpers jump oh Deuces deuces.