THE AFTERLIFE THEORY, MANIFESTATION, & USING ANPHANTASIA w/ Emson Mallari - JUMPERS JUMP EP. 47

No, but you you're lucky though cuz. Filipinos I feel like we have a cap, bro. I'm on our height. 5'8. No, it's it's either like 5'8, 5'9. That's it. 5'9 the tallest. I Yeah, I. don't know Well, my my dad's side was. was tall. Oh. Like my dad was like 5'9. How How tall's your dad right now? He's like 5'11. Oh.

My dad My dad. It's all good, yeah. It's. all good. your mom? My mom was like I'd like to. say 5'6. I feel like my mom manifested. this [ __ ] though. Yeah? Cuz as a kid, she would always be like, "You're going to get so tall. You're. going to be over 6'0." Oh, that's how. 100%. That's how, bro. I remember clearly as day like we were. at a Walmart when she was telling me. that because I did grow a little bit. taller than my cousins like faster, but. I was still shorter than all the girls. in elementary, right? Where'd you get. that interesting fact? So like I grew up. faster than like my cousins and taller,

right? And so we were at a Walmart one. time and then she said that. She's like, "You're going to grow over 6'0. You can. reach over all the shelves, right?". Yo, she manifested that. She manifested. that [ __ ] because she would always say. it like every time. And then I think it. led to me manifesting that cuz when when. she said that in Walmart, I would. visualize myself like tall and every. time I went to a grocery store, I would. visualize myself as being tall reaching. over [ __ ]. Yeah. I would always pray pray. I was like, "Yo, man, I better be 6'0.". That's how I I thought it happened, bro. That's how I thought it happened. Did. you drink like lots of milk and [ __ ]. Cuz I did I drank a hell of milk.

That's like the Filipino thing, bro. Like you have to drink bear milk so you. grow. If you drink hella milk, you get. strong bone and you're going to get. hella tall. So I drank like three cups a. day. Word. But here's the thing though. The lot crazy [ __ ] is like I used to do. that [ __ ] no effect, right? I'm lactose. as [ __ ] now. Yeah, me too. I don't know what happens, but like. there's a certain age when you're Asian. that you just like it's just like that. everybody like almost all Filipinos I. swear lactose intolerant. just Filipinos. I feel like a lot of. people like Asians, yeah. Like hella. Asians, but even some like just people.

of color in general I feel like are more. so prone to being lactose for some. reason. Yeah, why is that? I think I. read up on this like like a long time. ago. It was like because um in like Asia. or like East Asia, Southeast Asia, we're. used to drinking like goat milk and. other Word. But like in America, they started. drinking cow milk. So it's different. like the consistency or whatever it is. That's crazy. I didn't know that. I. don't I'm not sure if that's true. though. Yeah, yeah. I I didn't even know like we. use goat milk like that in Filipino food. though. Do we? I don't think so. Do we?

No, well I don't know if like if we use. it in a food, but I remember like like. our ancestors would like drink it, you. know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. That. makes sense then. Yeah. Not like the. generation before us, you know what I. mean? But like from time ago like over. time evolution it was like changes our. body. I heard like we're not supposed to. eat even peanuts. For real? Like the original human we're supposed. to be allergic to peanuts or supposed to. be allergic to milk or supposed to be. allergic to so many other things, but. just like through genetics changing, our. body's changing like we change and we. can like handle it now. See, but I feel. like as like the first generation of.

humans I guess, like what are you. supposed to eat? You know, like how do. you figure out that like, "Yo, that's a. cow. Yeah. Yo, I'm going to milk it, yo.". No, no, no. Whoever came up with. drinking milk from a cow is a horny. [ __ ]. That's as [ __ ] bro. No, yo. And then. then we're like, "Yo, let's milk it. Yo, why not eat it, bro?". I feel like they were eating it first, no? I don't know. Probably. They're. probably eating it and then like the. milk shit's like squirted out and. they're like, "Yo, is this like like you. know like a Boston cream donut?".

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were eating. the cow and there was like that cream in. the middle and they were like, "Damn, we. could drink this.". Yo, man. No, no, no. Bro, do you think. they would have figured out reproduction. before figuring out the cow? Like what. do you mean? Like Oh, like like. reproducing the cow? No, reproducing. like humans. Humans like [ __ ]. Before? Cuz they would they would. probably know what like [ __ ] is before. milk. Really? Yo, first of all, how do. you Okay, like how does even like. discover that reproduction, yo? You're.

just like, "Yo, this. No, I feel like naturally we the first. humans they would know right away. Like, "Yo, you have a hole and I have. something to fit in that hole. Let's see. what it unlocks.". That's how we know cuz we we already had. that urge already. Yeah. Like every guy, every girl that. had we had that urge like. scientifically. So I feel like no matter. what it's just going to find its way. That's true. Yeah, it's going to find. its way somehow. So that that's what I'm. saying. So what if they saw the cow. like, "Damn, we need more of these cows. What if if I take that cow and put it in.

me. and it creates like more cow. That's how. they thought That's that's That's a good. deduction, right? Right? Low-key. Yo, cuz I heard these um I heard these stor-. [ __ ] This is kind of like dark, but. It's all good, yeah. I I heard these. stories of like these shorties like mess. with horses, bro. That's like a thing on. the dark web, bro. I've heard that, yo. Cuz like the horse [ __ ] bro, that [ __ ]. is like. That's just my arm That's my arm, bro. Yeah, no, like your whole arm. You're. like Yeah, like like this. And people. mess with that, yo. But people are like.

that though. And it's so weird because I. feel like it's so interesting to see. people like get to that point. How do. you get to that point of like cuz in. infancy, we all basically start at the. same level of like mental capacity. basically. Mhm. As a baby. I mean, it could be. different between people, but like in. general everybody's the same like dumb. baby, right? Yeah, yeah. So what steps in their life. did it take to get to the point where. like, "Yo, that horse looking kind of. nice, you know what I'm saying? No, you know what it was though? It's. definitely just they they seen porn.

Yeah. And then that wasn't enough for. them cuz I feel like those people that. are addicted to porn. bro. they keep Yeah, they keep like. going to the next level. What's the next. level? It's like, "Hey, let me get this. free [ __ ] OnlyFans? Damn, I don't want. to pay." And then they pay for the first. time. They're like, "Okay, but I need. more." And so they start paying like. people to to watch to watch people. pretty sure porn has the same effect on. our brain as crack cocaine. I I I heard. that before, too. I heard that before. Because it's it's bad for you, right? Obviously. It's dopamine. It's dopamine at the end. of the day. It's an increased level of.

dopamine that we're not supposed to. have. Mhm. Like we're basically hacking. our brains to to get more dopamine to. get more chemicals. That's what drugs. are. Drugs aren't putting new chemicals. in your body. It's enhancing the. chemicals that are already within you. Exactly. A lot of people don't. understand that though. A lot of people. don't understand that. It just activates. what's already here. Yeah. Yeah, which is nuts because like. like DMT basically and like shrooms, they're just putting your brain on fire. basically. Yeah. So it it's literally. showing us everything that's already. here cuz that's what's crazy when I when. I look into these stories of. hallucinations under DMT or ayahuasca.

DMT mushrooms, they all say like, "What. if this is a filter? Everything's. already here. It just shows me.". No, that's what I'm saying. So like. Okay, I have like this crazy like idea. I got this from my from my homegirl. Kira. Shout out Kira. Mhm. But we were. talking in the car one day and we were. like, "What if black is a color that we. just can't see yet?" This is how we. know. What? You really think it cuz like. you said like there's a filter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. know how we see like only a certain. percentage of or like a certain percent. of light or something or certain lights. like ultraviolet we can't see or.

something like that. So what if black is. actually a color? It's just we don't. have like the cones or rays in our eyes. to be able to see what color that is. So. it presents us as black, but it's. actually something else that we can't. imagine because if you really beg it, you can't imagine a new color. Yeah, no, that's facts. You can't. Cuz. everything's already there. Yeah, so what if it's just a color that. we just haven't unlocked it in our brain. Okay, to to add on to that, right? When. you close your eyes, what do you see? See, okay okay I I. do this experiment with everybody. Yeah. So when I close my eyes genuinely, I see.

like blackish gray, but close one eye. and then try looking through that eye. that you're closed. That's what it feels. like to see nothing, bro. Oh, [ __ ]. No, no, no, but look look. Every time I. close my eyes at night or I go to sleep, I always see colors. Do you not see. colors? I see like like it's like pixelated It's. like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean, right? It's like a TV type [ __ ] right? Yeah, it's like it's like pixels with. like patterns sometimes and it's like. weird shapes. Bro, so I'm wondering cuz. a lot of DMT experiences, they talk. about these geometric patterns, right?

Yeah, and different colors and [ __ ]. What if it's already there? It's. literally right here. It's just It's. just enhanced, yo. But why do you think. we don't have it all unlocked right. away? I don't know. Like why isn't given. it given to us right now? Cuz yo, sometimes I'm not going to lie. Sometimes when I'm really really tired, I could really see full patterns, bro. When I close my eyes when I'm really. sleepy. Actually, I feel that sometimes, too. Or when I um I used to do this as a. kid. I used to look at the sun. Like. stare at it. Oh, that's bad. That's bad.

Probably why I need glasses now. But I. used to stare at it because like you. know how you get the after image of the. sun or like any light you get the after. image, right? So before I used to stare. at the sun, I would get like the after. image and then it came to a point where. I would stare at it, I'd close my eyes. and the after image would move around. and they would create like energy around. it. Word. Yeah. I don't know if that was just like. me as a kid just like imagining and. visualizing, but that's what I remember. from what I was seeing. Cuz a lot of. things when you see as a kid, we it's. hard to explain at the time until we're. older, right? Cuz we don't understand.

You know what you know when you when you. sometimes like look around and you see. those little Yeah, I know you know what. I'm saying? No, no, it's I'mma put it on the I'mma. put it on the screen. It's like those like cells Yeah. It looks like a microscope, bro. I. thought I was the only person to ever. see that, but I looked into it I think. two years back because I saw it on. Twitter. Someone was like, "Yo, y'all. Anyone else see this shit?" And it was. It's exactly what I saw. I think it's. like microscopic dirt in our eye. Oh, it's dirt. That just like moves around. or it might be dirt or it might be just. something in our eye that we just see. like something something that we just.

see. But I thought it was so weird. I. was like, "Yo, am I like unlocking. something right now, yo? Like am I seeing things that I don't. like I've never seen before?" Yo, did. you know there's like there's. microscopic living germs on our face? Yeah. And and they zoom in on it. They they. use like a microscope. Bro, they look. scary, fam. But that's all over our. body. There's like parasites. There's. everything in our body. Yeah, even on. our eye I'm pretty sure our eyelashes. there's like some type of like What is. it? Like a mite? Oh, no. I Yeah, there's. a mites. Yeah, yeah. I saw that. I saw. that on Twitter, too. Yo, man. Like But, if you think about it, like our body.

just houses like a whole universe. Yeah. Like, you know how we like humans, we. inhabit Earth? Like, our cells are like. the humans and we're the Earth. Like, our body's the Earth. Our body Our. body's like Earth. And then all of the. little microscopic beings, life cells, and [ __ ]. have their own like life in our body? Probably, bro. Like, you Like, there's this anime, it's. called Cells at Work. It basically just. like they just made the characters like. white blood cell, red blood cell. Just. going throughout their day. What if it's. like that, yo? I think it is, sir. I.

think it is. Are you Like, our universe is just. within us, yo? Cuz Cuz what if this What. if this whole Earth right now What if. this whole universe is part of. somebody's body? Or we're just a cell. Yo, no cuz I I think I've seen a I've. seen a TikTok on it. It's like the. universe and the whole galaxy put. together is like a nucleus of a cell. It. looks like it. Like, it looks like it. AND IT'S ALL. AND WE'RE JUST POWERING LIKE A. SUPERHUMAN BEING, BRO. LIKE, we're not. even human beings. Cuz you know, if you think about it, like looking at an anthill, if you put a.

lamp beside an anthill, all the ants, they're going to think that shit's the. sun. Yeah. You know what I mean? They. don't know like. They They're not going to understand it. Not going to understand. So, what if. that's for us? Like, we don't understand. the sun. What the [ __ ] is the sun? Yeah. But, it has like a a huge meaning. We. just can't comprehend it. Cuz in science, everything is just. theory. Nothing is proven. Nothing is. ever a fact. So, like who's to say like. no one's ever seen it in person? Yeah. We've only seen it through lenses, through cameras, but things could be. shifted through space cuz we don't even. know how space operates. So, light could.

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that's living proof the world will move. around without us. It doesn't care about. humans. People say like, too, like if the bees. went extinct, all of humanity would go. extinct. If humans went extinct, everything else would flourish. Woah, that's so true. Because if you really bag it, like. climate change and all these natural or. not natural like unnatural things like. happen because of us. Yeah. Cuz. pollution. Yeah, pollution. We're overmining. We're. like deforestation. We're. taking too many resources that we don't. need because of what? Like Like just.

consumerism in general, like make like fast fashion, you know. what I'm saying? Like people are making. bare clothes for like for what? And then. they just throw them out, you know what. I mean? I think I talked about this. before, but I always bring it back to. like greed, bro. Yeah, bro. It's always like that. It's always greed and it's almost like a. virus in of itself. Like, somebody's. greedy to one person and then because of. them taking away their stuff, they. become greedy themselves. Because they like, "Okay, well, if this. guy" And it's also like jealousy and. revenge, you know what I mean? Cuz if. someone's greedy, they take away from. you, then you're like, "Well, this guy. took away from me. That means I got to. take away from somebody else.".

Yeah, exactly. not going to stop if you keep it keeps. keeps keep. If he keeps doing that, it's not going. to stop, you know what I'm saying? I know. And that's the shitty part. That's kind of like That's kind of like. a man getting his heart broke, bro. Yeah, yo. If you think about it, every. single guy at one point in their life, they were a good guy first. That's what. I believe. I believe everybody was a. good guy first before they became like a. fuckboy or a [ __ ]. Yeah, no, I feel that, yo. Cuz they get. their heart broke, bro. Cuz Look, look, look. Let's say a guy treats a woman. like super nice. Like, this is a This is. a serious topic. A lot of people talk.

about this. But, let's say a guy gets. his heart. broke. He was treating her so well. If. he gets treated bad, he's going to. change his mind like, "Okay, maybe this. [ __ ] doesn't work anymore.". Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, he has to switch. and use what does work. And sometimes. what does work. is be the bad boy. be the bad boy. thing though, like some of these nice. guys though, they're not actually nice, yo. Because Yeah, that's true. If If you. really bag it, they're just like doing. these things out of like expectation. like to get something back you know what. I'm saying? But, is that really nice. then? Are they actually nice at first? Yeah. That's just what they're taught though.

Like, they don't know any better, you. know what I'm saying? They think like, "Oh, if I open the door for her, if I. buy her dinner, then then she'll date. me." It's like, "No, nobody's ever like. entitled to you. You're not entitled to. anybody else.". It's the movies. you that. And they There's never been a. movie where like there's a guy who does. all this stuff and then he just gets. rejected and then that's it. He becomes. a simp, bro. Yeah, they become a simp. And like if anything if if it does. happen in the movies, they end up. together at the end. Yeah. You know what. I mean? There's no realism in movies and. that's fine. But, I mean like It changes. um society. Exactly. It forces all of.

the males to follow that and then become. This is what the world is now. Yeah, and. people people always say like, "Nah, just don't listen to the movies." But, like once you have like 50,000 movies. and shows just coming at you like on a. day-to-day in a passive way like where. you just don't even notice like over the. years, your brain is going to like. rewire itself to think that's how the. world works. No, that's facts. You know what I'm. saying? Yeah. Because if you think about it, even with like brand sponsorships and. promos, like sometimes promo isn't even. just like straight-up, "Hey guys, buy. this bag. Buy this t-shirt from this. company." Sometimes it's just brand.

placement. You just put it in the back. Yeah. Or like I think you said it in like a. podcast where they put Red Bull cans in. like a dumpster to see like, "Oh, people. are drinking this energy drink.". Conscious. that's like That's what the. movies are doing. They're subconsciously. implementing these ideas that we see and. then it rewires our brain to think a. certain way. Yeah. So, maybe that's how. the government be controlling us though. Yo, cuz look look look. I always bring. it back to scarcity. Cuz I feel like. everything, whether it be relationships, whether it be consumerism, it goes down.

to scarcity and insecurity. So, people, big corporations, the big bosses, CEOs, they'll take advantage of your. insecurity. Facts. Facts. So, listen, listen. Yo, this is some. dark game. This is some dark game, but. they used to say like if you ever want a. girl to fall in love with you, attack. their insecurity, fam. Yo, that's dark. It's so dark, bro. behavior right there. fam. That's some That's some future. relations right there. No, but if if you. bag it, look look. If you If you take. this in, a relationship is based off. what, bro? It's low-key based off insecurity. Insecurity, yeah. You're finding things.

in somebody else that you don't have. You're lacking. Mhm. And you provide. something that they're lacking. Exactly, fam. The concept of marriage, bro, is based off insecurity because you. you want to hold them down because you. don't think you're going to find. somebody else like them ever again. Or you don't want them to find somebody. else that's not you, you know what I'm. saying? Yo, that's why like for me personally. like obviously in the future I would. totally get married, you know? But, it's. not like it's not the thing that hold it. down. Like, I hold it down. She holds it down.

for ourselves. I hold it down for myself. and then we just come together. You know. what I'm saying? Yeah. like marriage is just that like title, you know what I mean? It is just a title. But, at the same time it's also like. some people's religion. Like, marriage. is part of that like their religion. So, like. Yeah, yeah. It means It proves their commitment. It. proves their you know what I'm saying? Like, their trust with each other. It's a sacrament. Which is totally fine. Like, I totally get that and totally. respect it. But, for me like personally. like it's always been kind of like the. idea of it is just been like, "Okay, it's just there." But, that doesn't I. think our generation, we don't even want. to get married anymore. Like, if you.

really bag it, like my parents back when. they got married, they were only like. early 20s. Like, I'm like 21 and I'm like not. thinking about any of that. Not thinking. about kids, not thinking about family, not thinking about having this. I'm. thinking about like, you know, just like. being happy, doing my thing, trying to. travel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, it wasn't like. that before though. Cuz before it was a. different life. Everybody It was kind of. like a formula. Like, you get your job, you get a family, you have a small. house, whatever it may be. And then like. white picket fence, American dream, right? But, now the world's changed. It's It's always changing. They didn't.

have social media. We have social media. now. We can take advantage of. opportunities that weren't there. And. being an influencer is literally a valid. career now. Like, that's not that's not. heard of before. Yeah, but like back. when we were in elementary like, "Oh, I. want to be a YouTuber." It's like It's. like, "Wow.". Oh, yeah. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like now there's kids like if you ask. kids what they want to be when they grow. up, they don't say like astronaut, lawyer, doctor. They're like, "No, I. want to be like a YouTuber. I want to be. a Twitch streamer. I want to be a. podcaster.". Which is dope. I love that because it. allows you to truly do what you want. Exactly. Like, the internet like gives.

you the opportunity to be whatever you. want. And I feel like people like take. that for granted, you know what I'm. saying? Cuz like if you really bag it, like. people always say like it's so cliché, but like, "Oh, follow your dreams. Do. what you want." But, back then like you. didn't really have a choice or you. didn't know how to do it or what to do, you know what I'm mean? Because like now. it's kind of impossible in a sense. Exactly. It wasn't possible because. there was no platform to do it. Like, if. you wanted to be a podcaster, like How. would you How would you promote it? Yeah. You would And you would need like. the most back then like it would Gear. itself would have cost you crazy amounts.

of money. Yeah, it's Gear is so. accessible now. Like, professional grade. gear is so accessible. Nice cameras, nice mics are like you can get for less. than a grand. Yeah. Yeah. In total. Like, I Like, these. mics, they're pretty affordable, right? Yeah, they're They're not that. expensive. Like, they're not terrible. They do the same job as the. professionals. And honestly, sometimes. that's That's need. Yeah, that's all you. need. And that's what That's what it. proves like you don't need the best gear. to just to start. great, you know what Yeah, you don't. need the best gear to start, and you. don't need the best gear to see where.

your talent comes out. Exactly. I think I forgot who said it, but it's like you don't need to be great. to start, you need to start to be great. Yeah, exactly. might have been Michael Jordan, might. have been I don't know, but That's some. real [ __ ] though. That's some real [ __ ]. Cuz if you don't start, you're never. going to [ __ ] know. Yeah, and that's I feel like that's. always been my like issue over the years. like analysis always leads to paralysis. I'm always thinking about my moves, I'm. always trying to plan it, but it's like. you can plan and plan all you want, but. unless you attack, you're never going to. get a hit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Cliche, you miss 100% of the shots. you don't take, and that's facts. It's. It's facts. It's facts. And like you.

just have to like you just have to do. it, you know what I'm saying? I get it. though, like people are scared to follow. their dream or their passion because, you know, like parents, Asian like Asian. families, like that's such a common. thing, like their parents want They. don't want to take risks. Yeah, they don't want to take risks, but. it's like your parents came here to give. you the opportunity to take that risk. Why not take it, you know what I'm. saying? I feel for my parents the older. I get, I feel for my mom, you know what. I'm saying? Like she definitely had. dreams that she wanted to pursue when. she was younger, you know? She probably. wanted to be like a like a cook or like. a singer, you know what I'm saying? But. it's like she did what she needed to to.

survive, to she did what she needed to, you know, like put food on the table, keep the lights on. She's not thinking. about that. Cuz they didn't have those opportunities. that we have. They didn't have that. luxury. And if if we're not taking that [ __ ]. then we're kind of like leaving it out. What What's it for then if we're not. using it? If you just play it safe, what. the [ __ ]. Exactly, like what are you doing, you. know what I'm saying? Like you have like. choice is one of the biggest blessings. that we have that we take for granted. Mhm. To be able to choose what we want. to do with our lives, it's so like it's. such a big blessing if you think about. it. Like there's mad people in the. world, over half maybe like 80% of the. population don't have that right to.

choose or don't have that freedom of. choice to be who they want to be or do. what they want to do. So like that's why. I don't know, like that's why I just. don't see myself like working 9-5s. anymore. Yeah. or like doing any of that stuff. anymore. Cuz you don't want to work hard for. somebody else, you want to work hard for. yourself. And just like I don't know, just like in. general, if you really just look at. life, you know, Mhm. it's long, but it's. short. It's short. It's low-key short. It's. short, but if you're living in it and. like if you're actually living in it and. looking around and really just taking it. all in, you can live a long good long. life. Mhm. Cuz if you really think about it, whenever somebody has like this is what.

I noticed like recently, Yeah. whenever somebody somebody dies. like prematurely and they didn't get to. do much with their life, they always. say, "Ah, life is so short, you never. know what's going to happen to you, right?". Mhm. But when somebody has a life of. like accomplishments and just them being. happy doing what they love, they're. always like, "Damn, he lived such a long. amazing life.". Yeah, that's true. Mhm. That's so true. Like what, he died when he was 40? Yeah. That's still considered. Considered short. But then people always said like, "Yo, Kobe lived like a a long amazing life.". Because he's accomplished so much. And. that's why I feel like our lives aren't. based on our years, it's based on like.

what we've done, bro. exactly. The more you've done, the more. you age. So like if you really bag it, Kobe was already like probably 100 years. old in his like Oh, you mean in his in. the sense of like how much he's done, how much he's accomplished. Yeah, that's. what he said though. Kind of. But yeah, like based on accomplishments, Kobe was. already like a veteran, you know what. I'm saying? But the same person could be. 40 and still be an infant. Yeah, he's. like a rookie. Yeah, cuz there's a there's a hell of. people too that like Like you know like. you have those friends who kind of just. don't think at the same level as you.

yet. Yeah. They they're not quote unquote. like woke. I hate that term. I hate I. hate that term, but they don't see it. They're not mature yet. They're still in. that like high school mentality, and. that's that's fine cuz everybody grows. at a different mental like speed, you. know what I'm saying? But it just it. sucks when like you're such good friends. with them, but they just can't keep up. with you anymore, you know what I'm. saying? They want to do other things. you're not interested in. Exactly, and. it's not like we're not friends anymore, but it's just like, "Yeah, I I just got. to move on from this relationship. It. was good while we had it. Yeah. it's just hard to be around anymore.

It's not like you're forcing yourself to. to leave that person, it just happens. over time. Yeah, that's that's the life though, like you you're going to grow out of. certain people, you're going to grow out. of certain things you were in into. before. of Yeah, there's hell of things I used. to be into that I used to think were my. dreams that aren't anymore, Mhm. you. know? Like before I used before um all. this like Tik Tok social media stuff, I. wanted to be a movie director. Yeah, yeah. to do that, but you know what I mean? Like Like when I was growing up, I. always thought like I wanted to do. something big, you know what I'm saying? I want to be a singer, I want to be a. dancer, I want to be a movie director, just cuz that's what I consumed, you. know? Mhm. Like as a kid, I watched a.

hell of Michael Jackson, Elvis, and just. hell of movies like growing up. Yeah. So then I took that as a child to then. be like, "Why can't I do something with. this?" And so I like I always saw myself. as like, "Okay, maybe I want to do movie. direction. Maybe I want to be behind the. scenes.". Mhm. And then as I got older, I was. like, "You know what? Maybe I want to be. in front of the camera, not really. behind the scenes.". Yeah. And then now I'm like in front of. the camera, Changes, right? It changes. I wish I could be the cameraman and the. actor at the same time. Which is what I. do, but still it's not You can't do it. at full capacity, Yeah. That's what they. say, a lot of creative people, they.

really want to be in control of. everything. Yeah. Like they want to be. in control of everything, but our body. can't handle it. You know what I mean? Our mind can't. handle every single thing. But I really. want to try and like be the the front. man, the man behind the scenes, the the. one writing the script, screenwriter, producer, director, film. guy, like But you can't live like that's. what sucks. But that's what I learned like over the. years, just like it's okay to ask for. help, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's why That's why it's. like so important to just like find the. right help, and then you can just teach. it to them. Because if you're able to. teach everything that you know to.

somebody, then they know everything you. know, plus they know what they know. Yeah. So it's even then you don't even. realize that they're doing the job that. you've envisioned better sometimes, you. know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like. sometimes let's say like I have an idea. or like um the other week I went to I. went to do a modeling gig in New York, Mhm. and I always thought like, "Okay.". Cuz I used to do photography too, right? Yeah. And I always thought like, "Oh, this is the way to do it. This is how I. want my pictures taken. This is how I. want to pose." Mhm. Like as soon as I. walked into the room, everything was. just off the table. I was rookie, and. then having these people do it for me, I.

realized like, "Damn, this is how I want. it to look.". Mhm. This is not what I envisioned in my. head, but this is how I wanted to look. It's somebody else doing it. Because they're on the outside, they can. see in. And you just need to like trust. that. Yeah. That's why you need a team that. you can trust. Sometimes like you want. to do everything by yourself, but you. really can't. I know. what That's human nature though. Like. humans aren't meant to do things alone. Humans aren't meant to be alone. We're. like We're like one of the only species. I don't know what I I don't want to say. the only species. I say like every. species in the world actually like just. doesn't want to be by themselves or. can't operate by themselves. cuz some people do love being alone.

Some people are that lone wolf. That That's true. Some people do love. being alone, but is it because like they. just haven't been exposed enough to the. right people that they want to be with, you know what I'm saying? Cuz there are. lone I think there really are lone. wolves in the world though. Like there. are some people that can't live with. anybody else. Like they have to grind, they have to work by themselves. They. can't It's a It's a lonely world though, bro. I know, but that cuz cuz we're. we're like that, we love people. We love. people. But some some people don't work. well with others. Yeah, but like maybe they just haven't.

found the right person that they They. haven't found the right person that. makes them feel like I don't want to be. alone anymore, you what I'm saying? Sometimes you just have to find your. people. You have to find your pack. No, but there are lone wolves though. Like lone wolves in in nature, like. there's a pack. That's true. A pack of. wolves, and then there's the lone. But. who does better, the lone wolf or the. the pack? Depends. Depends what The It. depends what your perception of better. is. Okay, let's say Okay, that's true. That's true. That's fair. That's fair. Cuz what what if that lone wolf, right? He has his plan and he conquers his. goal. Mhm. His goal doesn't appeal to the. group, right?

That's true. And he doesn't have to. worry about whether the group agrees. with whatever he does. So his form of. success is not the same as a the group. Yeah. Group of wolves, I know. does not. have to worry about their opinion. Does. not have to worry about their judgment, whatever. His success is his success. His success is his his success. His success. is his success, but that's it. That's. all it That's all it's going to be, you. know what I'm saying? It's like, "Okay, I accomplished this. Now what?" No, but. at the end of the day, look look, we all. die alone, fam. That's true. But at the. same If If you bag it, we all die alone.

We're we're in the grave alone, fam. Yeah. But I don't know, for me like we. die alone, but mentally we don't because. we have the memories of everybody that's. like been around us from time, you know. what I'm saying? Mhm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm. saying? Cuz people Some people theorize. death is just after death, you live in. your memories. Yeah. I I said that I. said that before, yeah. Cuz I I think it. actually is if you lived a good life, if. you lived happiness, if you lived doing. good things around the world, your. afterlife will be good. But if you've. done evil [ __ ] like you were a serial. killer, it's going to be bad.

It's going to be bad. It's going to be a. nightmare. all that's what's in your head. what I'm. saying, like do we really die alone. then, you know what I'm saying? Because. we die with the memories of people with. us, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Physically we do die alone, Mhm. but. spiritually and mentally we we don't. Because I like to say this a lot, people. say like, you know how like people are. on their spiritual journeys and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Like I don't believe that. we're humans on a spiritual journey, I. believe that we're spirits on a human. journey. Mhm. If you really bag it. No, that I think that's true. Cuz like this. is just like a vessel. Yeah, it is a vessel. Like Like. Orochimaru and Sasuke, you know what I'm.

saying? Like he's just trying to get in. this man's body. That's his next vessel. Mhm. I feel like that's where like we. have so many like humans have so many. like just abilities to do things, but. just can't because of this this vessel. that we have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like what we were. saying earlier, like we want to do. everything, and we have like so many. ideas, and we think of certain things. limitations. There's limitations. There's physical limitations that we. just can't do yet. So maybe we're just. like spirits that are just going from. vessel to vessel to vessel finding that. perfect vessel that can that can like. withstand our full capacity of our like.

our spirit or mentality or our soul, you. know what I'm saying? Yeah, so you believe in a reincarnation. then? See, like I don't know if I would. say it as reincarnation, consider. reincarnation, but like it is in a in a. way. If that is, that that kind of concept. is. Yeah, cuz your spirit's just going to. somebody else, but it's just like you. just forget your whole past life type. thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but that's scary, bro. But see, I hate that idea of like. forgetting everything. It It scares me, man. Yeah. Like I don't think death itself. scares me, it's the whole like idea that. there's going to be nothing after.

The reactions of it. Yeah. You know what. I'm saying? Because it's just like, man, if you think about it, like people. actually think like when you die, like. it just goes black and nothing happens. That's sad, bro. I know, bro. That's the saddest thing to think about. because it's just like then what's then. what's the point? You know what I'm. saying? But maybe like cuz we don't. know, what if that is true? What if that. is true? Then the point is this, bro. The point is this. right. And that's why I always tell people. like, man, just do what makes you happy, bro, because like you just you just. don't know. Like that's the biggest. secret of life that we're never going to. like find out is that what happens after.

death. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But my theory is just like we're just. our souls are just boundless, you know. what I mean? We're just going to keep. traveling throughout the universe till. we just like I don't even think that. we're going to find a perfect body, either. Do you think cuz I said this. before in another episode, but do you. think we could reincarnate not just on. this planet but another? Oh, for sure. I. feel like we're not even reincarnating. in this universe or dimension. You know. what I mean? I feel like we can like. transcend into different things. Because. I remember I was having this like. episode when we was it was like. quarantine, you know what I mean? In my. head I was just like, man, like I was.

just thinking so deep and in my head I. was just like like you know how T'Challa. in Black Panther said he's like, "Death. is not the end. It is only a new. beginning." or something like that, you. know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like what if. what if it is that? Like what if like. when we do die our spirits just find a. new place to transcend to? What if we're. not What if we don't even like. reincarnate into human or something. living? We're just in like a spiritual. dimension. See, that's something we. don't understand. Transcendent or transcendent, all right? Like the way that we can't imagine a new. color, we can't imagine that life. because we've never seen it or we don't. understand it, you know what I mean?

Yeah, we can't comprehend any of that. [ __ ] Can't comprehend it, bro. Cuz cuz. it's just going to be like what what. would you consider a spirit dimension? Like we don't even know. What is that? What is that? thing you can imagine is like from what. you see on TV. Like like the the waves. of air like moving around, you know? Like the colors. Shadow realm, you know. what I mean? But there's no words that can describe. what we're going to see. Exactly. Cuz we don't even know what. we're going to see. Yeah, exactly. That's scary, bro. It is scary. I think. you told me a story before how like you. reincarnated like in a dream. Oh, yeah.

Okay, so Yo, tell that story right now, bro. I I told I forgot. It was after an. episode I DM'd you like right away. It. was after Josh's episode cuz he had a. similar experience. So I I DM'd this guy. I was like, yo, crazy thing. I have a story to tell you. So okay, so I'm just trying to remember. right now. Okay, so this is probably one. of the most intense dreams I've ever had. in my life. So basically it's I can't. really describe it like perfectly, but. in the dream I remember I was holding. hands with somebody. It was a shorty for. sure. And then we were looking at like. this we were just looking at a building.

We were looking at the skyline. Like we. knew it was like it was over, right? And. then boom, building blows up and then. the wave of fire blows past me. But I don't die. Everything just turns. black, you know what I'm mean? And then. like I feel my body just my body's in. that wisp of black. It's like it's just. in an all black room and you can just. see my body. And then like this outline. of a door opens and then it said it. there's like a sign on top. I forgot. what the sign said, but I felt a deity. like saying like it's time to move on to. the next part. And I was like, what? And. then the the name of the person I was.

reincarnated to opened the the sign. changed into his name. I forgot the name but it was like. something Fitzgerald or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I saw like like. beyond the door it was like a snowy like. it looked like just snowy hills and just. blizzards and stuff. And he's like, it's. time to go. I was like, nah, nah, like. nah, it's not my time. I need my. memories. This is like everything to me. And then I [ __ ] went through the door. and I was a different person and then I. woke up crying, bro. And it was so intense. It's so hard to. sometimes it's so hard to think if.

something's a dream or not when it feels. that intense, you know what I mean? if you think about it like dreams are. can you dream things you haven't seen. before? Yes, for sure. You think so? Actually, no, no, cuz cuz in a sense. everything we do dream is inspired, right? Cuz that's what's crazy cuz a lot. of people we have similar dreams. Like. you you know you know those pictures of. like why does this place look familiar? And it shows like an empty like room or. whatever it may be. Bro, and we all have. similar things. So what if it's. connected somehow? That's what I'm. saying. Like what if the dream world is.

its own dimension and falling asleep is. the way our souls just go there. Okay, what if what if, right? Cuz I always. think about this. What if people get. reincarnated but they don't get. reincarnated at birth? They get. reincarnated and put into that body like. midway through. Like like tomorrow. somebody else is in your body. Someone. else is playing the controller. Yeah. It's like a game where there's like two. controllers, but then you switch. it up. They picked it up. But we don't. know any different, fam. We don't know. any different because like we just know. the Carlos experience, the Emcee.

experience. That's all we know. Yeah, like playing GTA. The GTA character. doesn't know somebody else is playing. him. Could be somebody else. Could be. somebody else the next day. And we we. have no proof of telling if that's true. or not. Okay, I have a crazy theory like. like I I kind of like made this one up. by myself kind of. Kind of. It's kind of. inspired by a movie. Do you know. Arrival? Yeah, yeah. With the aliens. Yeah, and she kind of like lives life at. the same time. That's what I kind of. think we're doing right now. I feel like. we're living life not linearly but like. abstract where we're living it all at. the exact same time. So take it in. Like.

this moment right now we're living, right? This is the present. This is just. what we're experiencing at the moment. Like when we when we're trying to. remember something or we're looking it. back in our memories, that's going back. to the past in a way, you know what I. mean? We're looking back at our past. Yeah. And so how in what sense would you. say you you could see the future then? In the sense of like if you're. daydreaming or you're like looking to. the future what it may be. But like what. it is. Do you think you could see the. future as for what it is? No. No, I. don't think so. So that's when I think. like deja vu happens because it's just. like, yo, why have I been here before? You know what I'm mean? Oh, so so you.

think we've been in there? Yeah, we've. been there or we're already right now. And our mind is just catching glimpses. of what's happening at that moment. And. that's why like, why have I been here. before? Cuz you cuz you're there right. now. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah, we're experiencing. everything at the exact same time, but. we're just like like our body isn't able. to handle all of it, so we're only able. to just experience the present right. now. Yeah, what what if like when you go. to bed or you go to sleep it's almost as. if you close the game and then you can. pick it back up, but there's so many. different checkpoints. Save points, yeah. And then you can do. whatever you want to do. Yeah.

But we only remember from where our last. save was. Yo. This is crazy, you know what I'm. saying? Yeah, some crazy [ __ ] bro. You. ever think about having mutant powers? Mutant powers? Like X-Men? Do you I. think there's some people that do have. powers. I think a lot of people do. actually. Like Like a lot of people, what do you mean by I wouldn't say like. what you would say like what you would. consider mutant powers like teleporting. or creating fire, but like like. neurodivergent people, like people with. ADHD Yeah. or like, you know what I'm. mean? Like in that whole realm of like. just mental different, you know what I'm.

mean? I feel like that Like the. spectrum. Yeah, the spectrum. I feel like that is. like a power in itself, you know? In a sense, is that a mutation then? It. might be because like who in the past, you know what I'm mean? Just like. cavemen or just people in the past no. one knew that they had like, oh, I have. ADHD. Yeah. what I'm saying? That's like. a recent thing. Not recent recent, but. like within over like the past like. maybe 50, 100 years, you know what I'm. mean? That's when people started like. realizing, oh, maybe something in the. brain is different, some different. chemicals, you know what I'm mean? But. that could be just from like over time. evolution that our brains are just. mutating to think a different way, be a.

different way, you know what I'm saying? Operate a different way. Yeah, cuz I. heard a I heard a story from somebody. before. They have like an autistic. family member, but they're so bright. Yeah, I've I've heard stories like that. though. Right? Some way it's hardwired. into their brain and even though they. don't they don't communicate very well, they can solve problems so crazy. They. can solve riddles, anything you want and. they see it a different way and Really, the only thing different between. somebody who is autistic and somebody. who isn't is just like the physical of. it. Yeah. Really? And that goes back to like.

our idea of like maybe just like our. bodies just can't handle that brain. capacity that that that they have. Exactly, yeah. So maybe like he does. have like maybe autistic people do have. like this certain brain capacity that. just operates so quickly and so much. faster that the body just can't handle. that, you know what I'm mean? And so if. you give them the perfect vessel then. they become like some different type of. human, some next generation evolution. Maybe that's how maybe that's what. aliens are. Exactly, bro. You know what. I'm mean? Maybe they're just human like. with a different like vessel, you know. what I'm saying? Yo, yo, okay, I have. this theory, right? So when I was a kid,

a lot of people don't know this, I used. to stutter when I was a kid. Really? Like like kind of like speech. impediment? Kind of. I used to have a stutter. Okay. I still stutter all the time. I yeah, I. stutter sometimes. Stutter sometimes. But my theory is what if the reason I. was stuttering before is because maybe. my brain was working too fast at the. time and my body couldn't keep up. That's true. Cuz there's another theory. how people with messy handwriting, the. reason it's messy is because it can't. keep up with your ideas. can't move fast enough. Can't move fast enough. Yeah. Which I.

think is true. Then look at look at Kanye West. There's. so many different things like we see. Kanye doing like, you know what the. [ __ ] This is so weird, right? But we. just don't understand it because we're. not on the same wavelength. We're not on. the same like brain capacity as in my. guess. In his podcast with Joe Rogan he. says like his brain operates it's his. brain the way he thinks it's a symphony. of ideas, you know what I'm saying? And. like you can't control that. You can't. play every instrument, you know what I'm. saying? But like you can be the. conductor that like tells what the. instrument Tells the instrument what to. do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, man, I would have.

been with you all the way. There you go. There you go, right? But that's what I think like having ADHD. is cuz like I have ADHD for a long time. now. And like the more I more I like. study it, the more I understand why I. operate the way I operate. In a sense, I. think it's a superpower, bro. That's. what I That's how I see it because it's. just like you're saying hyperfocus into. multiple different things at the same. time isn't a superpower? Exactly, yeah. Because like like. sometimes I I was talking about this. with my homeboy the other day. Like. sometimes when I'm reading a book I'm. reading, but I'm thinking about five. different things. And I'm still able to. like finish the page. I just don't.

remember what I read because I was. thinking about five other things. But. then I get those five tasks done in my. head over this one task, you know what. No, I get that sometimes where I'm. reading and I didn't even read the book. I low key just like daydreamed. You just. saw the words, but you didn't read them. Yeah, I know I feel you, bro. I know. exactly what you're talking about, bro. Cuz that happens to me sometimes, right? And sometimes I even Okay, this is. crazy, but but I'll read a story and. then I'll I'll see the story in my head. I'm I'm still reading it, but the story. already went off the script and I. already I'm continuing it in my head.

Okay, the crazy you say that I was about. to tell you this one thing. So there's. people that can't do that, hey? What? They can't do that. It's called. aphantasia where let's say you say, imagine a red star. Mhm. Can you see it. in your head like a red star, right? Yeah. There's people that can't. They. see black. They see They They know the. idea of red star, but they don't. visualize imagine it. it, right? Yeah. And so when people are. reading a book like I just saw like a. Tik Tok about this like earlier. It was. like when people with Aphantasia read a. book, what do they see? Cuz you know.

what we were saying like Yeah. You see. like the movie in your head. You see. the whole thing. You give your. characters voices. bro. It's like maybe you can't do everything, bro. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, like you see every detail in. your head down to the smell and like the. the sounds. There's people that just. think of the idea of the book and the. words and they just see words. Yeah. That's crazy. Mhm. Because like I feel. like imagining is such a normal thing. But there's a lot of people with this. like condition where they just can't. visualize. No, cuz I I do relate to that when I I.

try to tell my friends some ideas and. like, "Yo, I don't know about that one.". They can't They can't see the vision, you know what They don't see They don't. see the vision and like "Nah, that's. kind of wack." or whatever, right? But. when I actually put it out and create it. into I put it onto a canvas they can. see. Yeah, exactly. That's when like, "Damn, yo. How did you. come up with this?" At the same time. too, it's just cuz like people can't see. what you're thinking. Sometimes you just. have to like write it out. Like you know. how like Kanye will say some outlandish. ideas, but until he does it, that's when. people start praising him. Yeah. You. know what I mean? Exactly. talks about like a lot of things and. people always clown him. People He He.

always says like, "Everybody's going to. get Yeezys. This is the new evolution of. footwear." You know what I mean? People. like, "Nah, those are wack." What's. everyone wearing nowadays? Foam runners, bro. Yeezy slides. Like because they're. practical. They're comfortable. They The. look people just aren't used to it, you. know what I mean? Yeah. But I see hell of people wearing like. Yeezy slides, foam runners and they just. look like house slippers, you know? But. they're practical. And what he was. saying about them before makes sense now. because he's produced it and over time. people have been wearing it. Mhm. Now. you see the vision. Now you see the. idea. Yeah. I'm saying? I feel like hell of people.

have amazing ideas. People just don't. get the chance to to present it, you. know what I mean? Mhm. That's why people say like the cure. for cancer can be in somebody's head. that doesn't that can't get a proper. education. Yo, that's deep. Where did. you hear that one, bro? I had no idea. That's the real [ __ ] Yo, but you know. what I'm saying? Like That's That's what. it is though. That's That's why I'm. saying going back to like the freedom of. choice. Like having the freedom of. choice is one of the best blessings we. can have because like we can just we can. put like nowadays you can put what's in. your head on paper and make it real.

make it into a billion-dollar business. Yeah, that's Everybody has the power to. do that now. If you have a phone If you. have a phone, you can do it. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. The Our phones. are like Like every year I'm like, "Man, the phone's getting more expensive and. expensive." But like if you think about. this phone can change your life. important. It's changed my I literally. just bought the the iPhone 13 the 13 Pro. Max. It's coming in November though. I. have to wait for it. fire though, right? You have it You have. it? No, I don't. But like I have the 12. Pro, but I saw the 13 in like person. like the other day. I was like, "Man, this guy clean.". Bro, take this in. Take this in. I have.

a theory, right? This is not even a. theory. This is low-key facts. They have. the ability to make You know how it like. the new one is 1 terabyte. You can get. like so much so much storage capacity on. it. My theory is that they can put. [ __ ] 10 terabytes if they wanted to. They can put so many if they wanted to, but it's not a good business plan. Like. it's not it's not stable for the. business to keep selling. Cuz then. you're not going to upgrade. You're not. going to buy the next one next year. And. take this in. It's the same thing with. light bulbs. Did you know the older. light bulbs in like the 1950s, the first.

ones that came out, they didn't go out. They didn't break. They lasted for years. on years on years. one's going to buy more light bulbs cuz. they don't need that. Exactly. So listen listen. They ended up. making this pact. So all of the light. bulb companies, they ended up making. this pact and if they wanted to produce. light bulbs, they would have to go under. their rules and make it worse so that. they ended up going out and breaking so. that the customers buy more. That's That's so true, bro. That's. That's crazy. Bro, but okay. This is my theory though.

with like the iPhones and stuff. And. like you know how like building PCs is. so like commercial now? Like Like this. back then it was only like really gamers. or really hardcore editors that were. building their own PCs, but now. everybody's building It's like the new. console. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Like PC master race. like it's it's growing. Like everybody's. getting new PCs. So what I'm saying is. we're going to have the ability to build. our own phones one day in that case. Cuz. it's going to get to a point where our. phones are so advanced like what can. they upgrade next? What can they upgrade. next? Like how about we just give you. the freedom to upgrade it yourself, but.

we'll sell the parts now. You know what. I'm saying? But I don't think they'll. they'll do that though cuz they they. want you to buy it. They want you to buy. the full thing. You will buy it, but then you can just. customize it. You know what I'm saying? Like. Apple sells the most useless things. Like you know the tile thing like where. you can find your things and if you lose. it Oh, the. the tag the air tag. Yeah. They could do. that be like, "Okay, here's like a. freaking new graphics card for your. phone that's a thousand dollars and it's. Apple branded." People will buy that. Yeah, people I'm not saying people. wouldn't buy it. It's just that I don't.

think it it's the best business move for. them because they know they're going to. buy it already anyway. That's true. That's true. So let's say I was Supreme. Remember when Supreme was going crazy? Oh my god. Like every It was the whole. site was selling out. They were selling. 50,000 plus shirts every single drop, right? Not even shirts like random. accessories, bro. Random accessories, whatever it may be. cuz they knew whatever they put out. People will buy it. People will buy it. So that their. business plan was they're going to make. all this random [ __ ] but make sure it's. expensive. Yeah. Cuz the price was the only. catalyst. Like they were going to buy it.

no matter what. It's just depended on. the price. Yeah, and like the Supreme hoodies were. pretty expensive. Not even like retail. price for crazy. Yeah, it was like it. was like two bills, right? Yeah. Two. bills. And if you think about it like. when did hoodies like acceptedly become. so expensive, you know? It was only. because of them. Literally five years ago like 20 even. 2014 you can get like a solid hoodie for. like 30 bucks, 20 bucks. Exactly, yeah. But now like it's normal. that hoodies are 60 plus, 100 plus. Crazy. And that's what it is like bro like ACG. like Nike hoodie, this is a hundred plus.

dollars and I'm like, "For a hoodie?" I. know. I was like in my head after I. bought it I was like, "When did I get to. the point where like I wanted to buy. like a hoodie for over a hundred. dollars?" It's because they change your. mind, bro. Exactly. And then that. becomes the new normal over the years. because that's what you see. These. Champion hoodies 60 plus dollars, okay. And then Essential hoodie comes out over. a hundred dollars and now that's your. new normal cuz you see it everywhere. Yeah. Cuz if you really think about it. streetwear isn't even just its own. community. It's like normal now. Like. people dress like that all the time.

Like people I knew that weren't even. into streetwear or shoes at all wear it. because they just think like, "Oh, that's just another brand. It's just. another Nike." That's the norm. That's. the norm. and that's crazy. That's why it's hard. to say that streetwear is dead because. it's not because everybody's wearing it. In a sense the streetwear where it was. used to be like a a hobby is dead. Yeah, like the I don't think I don't think. streetwear is a hobby anymore. Yeah, it's not. It's just normal. Yeah, it's it's just life. And that it. sucks that it's kind It kind of sucks. that it's like that, but I'm glad that. we got to like live through that like. culture and you know what I mean? It was.

It was a real like cultural change. Yeah. Like we didn't see that before. We. didn't see people caring about. streetwear like that. Like kicks. Like. who They didn't care about sneakers like. that before. Dunks, ones. Like It was a. small portion of the population that. really [ __ ] with the sneakers. Very small portion. And then like all of. a sudden it just blew up. Yeah, and millions millions of dollars, bro. Crazy, bro. Like it it's just so. crazy because like even back then like. every shoe I ever own I've ever owned I. bought for retail. Yeah. Yeah. I've. never paid resale for a shoe. Word, that's good. And like back then.

like the bread ones, the 2016 ones, I. got those like off a raffle so easily. Like just like put my name in. They're. like, "Hey, like you won the the bread. ones." I was like, "Oh, I bet." I can't. win a single raffle nowadays, bro. It's. not possible. It's not possible. It's. all rigged. People always saying like, "Oh, Sneaker app, it's already I already. lost." Because it's true. Like it's it's. so hard nowadays. It's so saturated. Yeah, it's just so saturated. Okay, let me ask you a question though. Do you think it's going to it's going to. get better or worse? Cuz look, let's say. you can put up the norm of a hoodie to. be a hundred sixty dollars, but it can. never go back down. It can't.

It can't. Like they're not going to change it back. down, but they can put it up. Yeah, exactly. And why would they put it. down when it's already been up? Why lose. money when you can make more? You know. what I'm saying? And even look at the. stock market, bro. Look at the stock. market. It low-key always goes up. If If. you think about like five years, 10. years, 20 years back Everything went up, bro. Yeah. Everything in general. The. prices of like cereal, the prices of. gas, the price of every everything's. always just going to keep going up. because it's just like why make Why make. less when you can make more? You know. what I'm saying? Okay, I have a I have a. crazy question for you. I have a crazy.

question. So like we were talking about. before, everybody has the ability to. become very successful. Hyper. successful, right? Now, do you think. there's an agenda right now trying to. hold people back? Cuz look, do you think. it's going to be like this forever? No. Nah. Cuz listen listen. The people. upstairs and I don't know the people. behind the doors that have the CEOs, the. the people controlling Illuminati, whatever it may be, right? They don't want that. They don't They. want to They want the same people in. power to be in power. Exactly. They don't want more rich.

people. They want everybody to stay. back. So how do you you hold them back? And do you think there's something's. taking place that are holding us back? See, that's That's why I think I don't. know. Like I feel like that's why. they're giving us this like They give us. platforms like Tik Tok to give us rapid. success. But in the end like yeah, we get this. rapid success, but how many Tik Tokers. are billionaires at the end of the day? Yeah. what I'm saying? It's only a few that that figure out a. way to monetize it very well. People say. like I'm not going to say it's easy to.

become a millionaire or something, but. it's definitely you can see the steps on. how to get there now. Yeah. But the. distance from million to billion is such. a gap that like I feel like people like. the front runners, the top people, the. front men give them this like small. success like, "Oh, here's your first. million." And then they're be they'll be. done with it and then they're like, "I'm. not going to make it into a. billion-dollar business because I don't. need to cuz I have my million." Oh, word. So they give them So they give. them that quickly. Quick success so they. don't get long-term success. Yo, that's. bro, that's smart. That is smart because.

you're like giving them the treat so. that they don't take the whole buffet. Exactly. Like if you tell somebody like, "Oh, this is the only piece of cake left. they're going to eat it but you still. have like the whole cake in the back. Yo, that's so true. I just took that in. cuz there's a lot of money going around. right now. Yeah, money comes and goes. every day. Like I feel like money is. just as easy to spend as it is easy to. earn, you know what I'm saying? And. people are spending and earning spending. and earning. Like I'm probably like one. of the worst people with money. Like. I've always been bad with money because. I didn't have it before. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And I always.

say that with people people who didn't. have money before and who were bad with. money back then are going to be the. exact same when they do have money. You. know what I'm saying? I think it's true. Yeah, because like you never learned how. to how to you know like how to save back. then. You didn't want to save and then. when you finally get money you're not. going to save it. You know what I'm. saying? But yeah like the value of money. for me now that I'm making like a pretty. steady income it's it's gone. For me. like the value of it has it's not as. good as it was. Like I'm not going to say money isn't. everything cuz Yeah. not you know what I mean? Like that's. like the cliche. you mean you mean the the feeling you.

have attached to it. Yeah, like you know what I mean? Like I. felt like before like oh I want hella. money. I want all this money. I want to. be so rich I can buy this buy this buy. this buy this. Yeah. But man just like. recently too like I just felt like you. know what? Like I just need enough money. to not worry about making any more. You. know what I'm saying? I feel like people. nowadays like people always want money. I want money to like but what for? Yeah. What do you want? I feel you. I I say that all the time. bro. That's why I'm flexing with books. and [ __ ] bro. But but that's like that's the truth. because it's just like people say like.

oh I want to work because I want to make. a lot of money. What do you want to make. a lot of money for? Mhm. Uh to do. things. You know what I'm saying? Like. money only gives you opportunity and. security. You know what I'm saying? More. money you have you can pay for health. care. You can pay to take care of your. family. You can get out like the. roughest of ends. Mhm. You know what I. mean? You can protect people, you know. what I'm mean? You can go you can pay. for experiences. You can pay for you can. buy time. Like you said like like why. would I why would I spend like $2 on a. 30-minute transit bus when I can spend. like 15 bucks on a 2-minute Uber or.

whatever. Exactly. what I'm saying? And that saves you. time, you know what I mean? That's like. the more and more I make like money I. guess like I see it as just. opportunities just to do more things, you know what I'm mean? Like I don't. save a lot of money. I just like to use. it to I use money as a tool to just be. happy, you know what I'm saying? Yo take. this in take this in. This is some real. [ __ ] They said why would you save money. if they're printing money? That's facts bro. That's facts. Yo no take it in cuz look if you're. saving money why would you save it? Why. would you hold on to it if they keep.

making more? Mhm. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't. You know why we think like. that? Because they taught us to do that. Because the rich taught us to do that. fam. And that's how they're like. inhibiting us from getting up there bro. Bro people always ask yo how are how are. these millionaires millions of dollars. in debt? Yeah. They're in debt because they make. moves with their money. They're not. holding it in a safe because they know. if they hold it in that safe it's not. going to be a million dollars anymore. Exactly. It's cuz it cuz everything's. going up man. Everything's going up. The. value decreases it depreciates. I feel. like the richest people in the world.

spend the most money. You know what I'm. saying? They're always investing. They're always putting money into new. businesses. Like Kanye $54 million in. debt now he has a $6 billion like net. worth. Yeah. Cuz he spent all that money. in his career investments or whatever. business ideas that he had and then look. it like it made him a billionaire. It it. went up. You know what I'm saying? But. that's the thing with money it's just. like I feel like that's that's the thing. with greed though. People are so greedy. with money but why? You know what I'm. mean? It's just paper. Yeah. People want. people want to be comfortable. People. want security and if it takes if it. takes away from somebody else's.

comfortability they'll do that. And it. kind of sucks how it's like that, you. know what I'm mean? It sucks bro. It's not fair but But. that's life that's that's life bro and. then that's kind of like we're we're. getting taught every day. And the only. way to combat that is to preach your own. message. That's why I say it on the. podcast all the time like you guys. shouldn't worry about it. Start to look. at it a different way cuz I feel like a. lot of people they just go with the. norm. Right? They just go with the norm. go with the mainstream what you're. taught in school and sometimes they. don't realize like not everything they. tell you is quote unquote the best.

Yeah or it's not honestly it's just. outdated. Is it outdated? It's outdated. Cuz the education system is how how many. years old now? You know what I'm saying? They've been teaching the same things. from like. I guarantee you right now if you take a. marketing class they're not going to. teach you about TikTok marketing even. though it's the best marketing you can. use right now. marketing and stuff. teach you about that [ __ ] because it's. outdated. Like the teacher doesn't even. know how to use it probably. Exactly. Because he's just teaching the. same lesson over the years. He's just. doing his job though. It's not his. fault. It's not his fault yeah. It's just like.

the people who run like the education. system like okay this is what we're. going to teach our kids because that's. what we want to teach them. And maybe that's how they're telling us. like Maybe that's how they're like. keeping us there. keeping us the information. See that's. why I feel like people are are so much. more prone to success nowadays is cuz we. have information. It's cuz we have so. much we have unlimited information in. our phones. Like everything we ever need. is in our phone. Yeah. You need you need. to know something just look it up. You. know what I'm mean? Exactly. to know what's happening across the. world you just look it up. You need to. know how to do something you just look.

it up nowadays. Like our phone is our. second brain and we take it for granted, you know what I'm mean? Yeah. We don't. use it for like the most proper things. and that's fine, you know? Yo you know. what's jokes fam cuz if you think about. it back in the day the people they would. call like the brainiac or the smart. person they would just be the people. that memorized this [ __ ] But like in a. sense we're just as smart as them now. because we have everything we have it. right here. Like you don't even need to. remember how to spell words because auto. No that's so true. Bro the other day I. was texting my homegirl I was like. necessary. Bro. I didn't know how to.

spell necessary by itself. Spell it for. me. N e c e s s a r y. Nah I'm pretty. sure there's like two c's in there. Is. it two c's? I don't know. See I don't. know. And we can't confirm unless we're. on our phone, you know what I'm mean? Is. it two c's? I think so something like Oh. [ __ ]. See we don't know. Like we we can think. but we don't know for sure. F e b r u. a r y. Yeah that's right that's right. You have. to I have to like I have to like.

visualize the word, you know? Me too. That's what I was doing bro. Cuz. see I I know a lot of people don't think. like that, right? And when I that's why. I'm so bad at math fam because when I do. math I visualize it as okay in. kindergarten when we learn math it was. like balls. Right? It was like two balls. plus three balls equals five balls, right? So in my head I see balls moving. Yeah moving. So when I'm trying to do like. multiplication it's hard to imagine like. 50 and then times 30 whatever, right? our brain just can't handle that. Yeah.

But what's the point in that though? Like why do we need to imagine like okay. Judy bought 50 pineapples. Yo what? Exactly. Nobody's doing that. Cuz cuz they write. that down now I have to imagine it in my. head and I'm like 50 pineapples. Damn. how how are they holding it? That's what. I'm saying bro like it's so that's why I. said it was so weird that people can't. imagine things sometimes like visualize. I know a lot of people relate though cuz. I feel like the the the true a lot of. fans of of Jumpers Jump are fans because. they know how we how we think. Yeah.

And they really relate to it because it. kind of we there's no voice for it. You. don't hear about it a lot. What? You. don't you don't hear about people. thinking about that a lot. It. In a sense people are scared to speak. their mind about things like that. Oh. you're too weird or like yo what the. [ __ ] you you sound dumb blah blah blah. Yeah like that's why people on Twitter. like blow up so much off just relatable. things. Yeah. And then people are like. oh damn we really lived the same. childhood. It's cuz people are too. afraid to just like talk about their. experiences. Talk about their life, you. know what I'm mean? And then when people. find like something to just be like yo.

same it like everybody gets hyped up. from it, you know what I'm mean? Yeah. Like the best things I like to watch. online are relatable things, you know. what I'm mean? That's why like my. favorite rappers are people that like I. can somewhat relate to or who are very. grounded. Like like J. Cole for example. Mhm. You know I feel like people love J. Cole because he's he just feels like a. normal person rapping, you know? Like. you know how you see when we see Kanye. rapping he has this whole production and. he we see him as a genius and like oh. that's Kanye West. He's he's a genius. Obviously. life is so extravagant. It's so. extravagant like like I love the music.

but I can't relate. But then when we see. J. Cole he's literally just like well. he's at home. He's making he's wearing. sweatpants, Crocs, you know what I'm. mean? That's why people love J. Cole. like die hard because they're like that. could be me honestly. Yeah it's true. it's true. That's what I love nowadays. about the internet like I feel like. that's why TikTok blew up so much. because of like the whole for you page. thing. You could see people like making. videos in their room starting podcasts. in their bedroom starting fashion like. TikToks in their bedroom because like. some people could just watch that be. like yo man I'm so into fashion. I don't.

know what to but I don't know how to And. it's inspiring. I don't know how to how. to present my creativity. And then you. see people on TikTok like oh they're. doing they're in their bedroom. Like I. have a some type of fashion sense. Let. me make that type of content now. And. that's how people that's why there's so. many creators nowadays because people. like see it's it's possible. Once you. see something is possible you're more. likely to do it. It's like that herd. mentality. Yeah yeah yeah. That's facts that's. facts. Like once you see it done before then. you'll do it. Bro I'm telling you ever since the. podcast bro we see all of these people. trying to copy us. And bro I'm like it's.

hard to hate on it. It's hard to hate on. it but like Damn bro. You can't say if it's like You can't say. nothing. Did they inspire you or is it. are they ripping me off, you know what. I'm saying? Mhm. I I heard this from a. friend though. He's he told me he said. like there are no such thing as original. thoughts and ideas, you know what I'm. mean? Our ideas are just a remix of what. we know. Like we're taking something. from somebody else. We're taking. something from somebody else and we're. taking something from our memories and. we're putting it together. We're. remixing it Yeah. into a brand new idea. But really it's just an a bunch of ideas. in one. And my friend told me this the.

other day. He was like he says he he. believes that ideas flow between people. You know what I'm saying? You think so? So like every like we share ideas in a. way where it's like let's say I get this. idea to start a podcast and then I don't. make a move on it. Yeah. It's just going. to go to somebody else. And goes to you. And then if you make a move on it and. then you start it and then it becomes. successful and then somebody else is. going to be like damn like I always. wanted to start a podcast. Now let me. start that. And then it's going to be. the same, you know what I'm mean? Interesting. I don't think people are. really it's hard to say like people are.

copying, you know what I'm mean? Because. I know it's like it's harmless copying, you know, what I mean? You know, it's like what you always say. like people don't don't copy steal, but. you know. Yeah, that I say I preach all the time. If you want to copy someone, don't copy. them. Steal it and make it your own. Exactly, but I feel like. I feel like people don't go to that. extra extent of stealing and they just. do the same [ __ ] They just copy and. paste and they don't they don't realize. that, you know, what I mean? That's why. I can't [ __ ] on anybody that like, you. know, sometimes like my content on. TikTok can get like a little bit bitten. off, but it's just like but it was it. really like my idea to begin with too,

you know, what I mean? Cuz at the same. time like a lot of my TikTok ideas. didn't even like like it they were kind. of like original ideas, but it was. remixed from what I've already seen on. YouTube and like my personal life. Yeah, it's it's through what we seen and. then we make the idea out of what our. experiences. Exactly, like the way I started like. doing my TikToks and starting all these. like videos is cuz like I combine like. what I saw from like fashion YouTube. combining with like my hobbies anime, streetwear, comics, everything like that. and I just put it in one, you know, what. I'm saying? Mhm. And then when people.

see that idea they're like, okay, let me. try that. And it's like it's it's cool. to see them do it too, you know, what. I'm saying? Like like oh damn like I. made this idea and like people are like. taking it but it's like is it really my. idea though? I'm like remixing it, you. know, what I'm saying? So, you think it. moves around to like people all around. the world? Yeah, it moves around like ideas just. keep moving until somebody takes. initiative to actually do it, you know, what I'm saying? for me I write down every single idea I. have even if it it sounds so crazy. Same. And there's some ideas in there I. know nobody will do, but the moment I.

put it out people are going to see that. and they're going to see something else. out of it. Yeah. You get what I'm. saying? So, like it might be an idea. related to something let's say related. to basketball. Let's say basketball is. the topic, right? Boom, basketball. Somebody's going to see that and move it. MMA. Yeah, move it tennis. Whatever it. may be, right? Like switch it up into. something different, you know, what. Exactly, but the it's only until that. moment the first one drops then it's. like boom that whole wave. Yeah, and that's that's that herd. mentality. People don't think. something's possible till it's done, you.

know, what I'm saying? Yeah. Like you. guys pioneered basically like podcasts. on TikTok. Low key. Yeah, low key like. before like Jumpers Jump I didn't see. anyone really posting their clips and I. I always thought about that I was like. why don't people just post it? Why. doesn't Joe Rogan post his podcast clips. on TikTok? Mhm. Cuz people I feel like people are. scared of it. That's why. But why. though? Cuz they're scared of a new. frontier. Cuz TikTok is a new frontier. it is very new. It's quote-unquote like. cringey. People don't want to be. associated with it, right? Even now. people still want to be associated with. TikTok. Exactly. use it.

Yeah. The people who [ __ ] on TikTok the most. are the ones on it the most. Everybody switched in I switched up too, fam. I'm not going to lie. I I I didn't. even think TikTok was sick before. Nah, I love that [ __ ] Right away right. away. Yeah, cuz my homeboy shout out JL, yo, he basically started up my career, you know? Yeah. Yeah, cuz he basically introduced me. he's like, yo man, the best videos are. on TikTok trust. I was like, I bet like. I'll give it a shot. I was like, fine. then. And I was like, yo, this is funny. as [ __ ] like this is the best content. and it caters to what your interests. are. Exactly. you just have to give it a chance like.

once you get judgment out of your head. and once you get humility out of your. head then you can do anything and you. can like see things for what they are. and not what. Yeah, and then you can [ __ ] on them now, you know, what I'm Yeah, you didn't see. Yeah, you see that. Like that's what I'm. saying I always told people I was like, yo guys get on TikTok they're like, ew. no isn't that like musically? I was. like, nah put your content on TikTok. Like do you ever have those friends that. you can see like man they would be so. hyper successful if they went hard on. TikTok. Those same people that I saw I was. telling I was like, yo man like trust. me, bro. TikTok's the way. Like nah. And.

then like 2 years later they're like, man I should have done it. And I'm not. saying I told you so, but like I'm. saying like next time an opportunity. like that comes up just just bag it. It is missed opportunity and I think so. many other things are going to happen. where it's going to change, bro. I don't. think this is going to be forever. I. don't think TikTok's going to be the. same forever. same as like YouTube. YouTube isn't the. same as it was before. YouTube is different already a year in. Just just like a year it's been changed. Like look at shorts and [ __ ] right? Yeah, lit- literally like they added. that and like YouTube channels been. blowing up from that. Mhm. There was a one YouTuber I saw I.

forgot who it was, but they had like a. million subscribers and they only had. two full videos on the channel. Word. But most of their views had like from. the shorts that had like 70 million. views. Damn, that's crazy. But if you think. about it like I always thought about. that too. I was like, what's going to be. the next form of media? You know, we. have Netflix, we have YouTube. I was. like, the only like real option is to. have it on our phone like vertically. Like why isn't there like vertical media. yet? And then TikTok came out I was. like, yeah, that's the one, yo. Yo, I. have an idea but somebody's going to. take this idea right now. It's like just.

remember I said it first. I think I'm. predicting right now the next form of. content the comments will all be audio. Damn, bro. I'm telling you right now all. of the comments will be audio at one. point in life. sick though. Cuz we haven't seen that. yet. We haven't seen that yet. Like we. seen like look look at um Twitch, right? So, imagine Twitch but it's like. individual comments that are speaking. like. Yeah. Yo, look behind you blah blah. Yo, what do you think about this this this? Yo, imagine you just have a packed. Twitch stream Twitch stream that No,

but maybe not at the same time. Maybe. not at the same time like like like kind. of like uh you know. Yeah, just like next one and next one, yeah. That's tough though. That's that's. cool though. But that's it's so hard. predicting what's next. Do you think. there's some prophets in the world like. real prophets that can predict [ __ ]. Predict [ __ ] Probably. Like. Nostradamus. See, I feel like people see. patterns in a way where like okay, if. this worked this way and um we're. missing this then this is going to work. because this app has what this is. missing and it's also bringing something. new to the table. Yeah. You know, what.

I'm saying? I feel like people see like. No, but I'm talking I'm talking prophets. as in the sense of like anything. Okay, like like see the future, yeah. Like the next the next president. Okay, like the the next natural disaster. some people know though. You think it's. true, right? some people cuz going back to the idea. of like how we see the future in deja vu. maybe it's people can just like they can. transcend back. transcend back or they can transcend. back and forth like like Black Mirror, you know, how like the you watch Black. Mirror? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched a. bit of it. You know, like how they have. that little like a headgear where they. can like rewatch the memories? Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Maybe there's a way like. with a device but in their brain they. can rewatch the memories and see the. like read the future just like not even. read it they're experiencing it in real. time in their head. And then come back. back and forth. Yeah. Yo, okay, I have a crazy story for. you though. So, there was this lady, right? This was long long time ago. This. was like during the Roman Empire. Oh [ __ ] So, she would go to this like. crack in the earth. Scientists figured. out this crack in the earth was right. above a source of ethylene gas. Okay. So, ethylene gas, right?

yeah. It supposedly gives you like a a. psychedelic effect. Like a halluc- it's. a hallucinogen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She would go under. this crack and then people would gather. around her and she would spit all these. like crazy crazy prophecies like, yo one. day this is going to happen a meteor's. going to strike blah blah and. everybody's looking around like, what is. she talking she's crazy she's crazy, right? So, she ended up writing down. hella prophecies. Yo. Hella prophecies, right? And these people some of the. prophecies came true during their their. time. The people went to the Roman. Empire the the emperor at the time was.

like, you have to buy these books. You. have to buy these books. He's like, ah. whatever whatever. So, she predicted. something crazy that happened to the to. the king. Yeah. And it happened for for real. So, he bought the he bought the books. Yeah. And these prophecies not only. predicted things that happened in their. era but also predicted things. era. in our era too. Predicted 9/11, predicted like Bro, it predicted like. phones crazy [ __ ] fam. And take this in. there's other predictions in there that.

still haven't come true yet. And one of. the predictions was extraterrestrials. Nah. Oh [ __ ] No, I think she she predicted. like a famine like a like a disease, bro. So, low key it's on track, Oh my god. Bro, cuz look look cuz I feel like those. random coincidence Yeah. just so. happened she was there under that. ethylene gas. They didn't know what the. [ __ ] ethylene gas was before. Mhm. But she absorbed it and it came out. with these prophecies. That was meant to. happen, bro. So, what if that was a way.

of let's say the higher power God Mhm. warning us like, okay, listen to this. girl. Yeah, but people just think she's. crazy. People just think she's crazy. But why do we think people like that are. crazy? Why don't we believe more people. like that, you know, what I'm saying? It's because it's so weird to look at. like it's so out of the ordinary, right? Like if you if you see quote-unquote. like a crackhead on the street, you. know, what I'm saying? Speaking. gibberish, right? to like give him a. going to give yeah, you're not going to. give him a second thought. But what if. he knew your future? Yeah, what if they're speaking like real. [ __ ] Like you you don't know because we.

just don't give it the time of day. because we're taught to stay away from. that. We're taught to stay away from. drugs and I'm not saying do drugs. I'm. not saying that at all, you know? If you do like at your own. risk, you know, what I'm saying? Mhm. But what I'm saying is just like we're. taught like even just marijuana itself. Everyone says like, oh it's bad. It's. the gateway drug. You're going to do. you're going to be a coming addict after. you do it. Mhm. But some people some most of the. like a lot of the most successful people. in the world do marijuana and they get. their best ideas off marijuana. But it's not for everybody. Everybody's.

different. Everybody's body operates. differently. Everybody everybody's body. takes drugs differently, you know, Yeah, that's why it's hard to say cuz when you. put it under that umbrella then some. people it might affect them for the. worst. Yeah, that's true. For the worst and. they wouldn't have foresaw that, right? Like they have to they have to proceed. with caution like they don't know. Some. some people even it might trigger. psychosis. That's true. And that's real. That is real. Thing though like should. we teach our kids that drugs are just. bad or should we teach them that drugs. just take it at your own risk, you know, what Mhm, yeah. Like just be careful if.

you do, you know, what I'm saying? Cuz I. feel like people a lot of people. nowadays or just people in general I. feel like a lot of people do drugs. because we're told not to do them. Oh, like a rebellious thing? Yeah, exactly. So, what would we taught our kids like. it's okay and we gave them access would. they do it more or would they do it. less? Depends. It depends. I think it depends especially on the. media and what the agenda is at the. time. Like look look at all the rap. music it's all about drugs all about. lean. That's true. Like nobody really. You think people actually like lean? No,

they only like lean when they start. talking about it, bro. Because the cool. guys are talking about it. Yeah, that's why. That's the media. it in the songs and then you want to do. it. Just like when you hear Lil Baby. with a Ferrari, like you want a Ferrari, too. chain, you want to make all these stacks and. all these racks, you want to break these. backs. Yeah. No, but that's why you see I feel like a. lot of rappers they look the same, too. They do. A lot like the typical the. typical big chain, skinny jeans, designer, Fendi, of crazy hairstyle, you.

know what I mean? Everybody's trying to. find their own style, but really they're. under the same cookie cutter. Yeah. You. can be under the same cookie cutter, but. they're just putting like different. icing on top, but that doesn't mean. you're still you aren't the same cookie. as somebody else, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, exactly. But that's the. thing, like it's always going to come. down to that formula formula. That's why. I feel like people on TikTok, like. that's why content gets so repetitive. and all looks the same or people we see. people as copying because it's just It. works. It's working. And if you see something that works for. somebody else, why wouldn't you try it. either?

That's why I can't I can't like [ __ ] on. anybody who does like get most of their. content from other people because it's. just like if you see something that. works, do it, you know what I mean? Yeah. I get it. I get it. It just It. just sucks now that people's a lot of. people's like content on TikTok is. getting a little bit more like it's. everything's starting to look the same. Do you really think about that Yeah, it. it does. It does. And that's why I feel. like people are always like oh, I miss. old TikTok. I miss old era. I miss. summer 19 TikTok. But no matter what it's going to get to. that point. It's going to get to that. point. Just like YouTube was like that, too. Exactly. People made the reaction. videos, uh things when people say, you.

know, that that's been a whole wave for. a while. gets back in the day like skits. and then at one point like gaming. YouTube was like taking over like. Minecraft YouTube and then everybody. just had the same Minecraft YouTube. videos, you know what I mean? But it. works, you know what I mean? If it. works, like why change it? But at the. same time, if you want to be better than. not better, if you want to be more. successful, Yeah. then you got to do something else. out of that comfort zone, you know what. I'm saying? So so do you know how to. combat that or no? To combat what? To combat this that whole wave of.

everybody's looking the same. Do you. know how to combat that? It It's hard. because it's just like everybody looks. the same, so that means you're consuming. the same media. You're consuming the. same thing. So what are you really. learning and what can you really What. new ideas can you make if you're all. you're looking at are the same ideas? Mhm. You know what I mean? So whenever I. create things, I don't look at my niche. So let's say So I do a lot of fashion. content on TikTok, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't look at fashion. videos for inspiration. Cuz why would I. do that? Everybody's doing that. Mhm. So. I look for inspiration in like nature or. some [ __ ] Like oh, I like the way this.

tree looks. The way the leaves like wrap. around the branches, you know what I. mean? Mhm. Maybe I'll do that with clothes. Yeah, yeah. You know, you have to find. like other hobbies and other niches to. put and remix into your into what you. want to do, you know what I mean? Because if you think about it like. everybody's making the Let's say Let's. say fashion. Everybody's doing the whole. like transition like oh, new hoodie. Yeah, yeah. You can only wear a flannel like so many. different ways, you know what I'm. saying? Yeah, that's right. have done that video from time from even. before TikTok, YouTube, you know what I. mean? So like I think the way to combat.

it, bro, is just sell personality. It's. just selling personality. That's it. Because that's the thing. That's the. only reason That's only way. differentiate from other people. Like. the difference between your podcast and. somebody else's are the the people. running it. Exactly. Like they're not. going to have the way I think, you know. what I mean? They're not going to have. the way Emcee thinks. Exactly. People could say the exact same. theories. People can copy exact word for. word, bar for bar, but would you rather. see somebody else rap Kanye's verses or. would you rather see Kanye rap his. verses? Kanye rap Kanye's verses. Exactly. That's some real [ __ ] Say that.

again, bro. Kanye Drake Okay, I I can't that that's. hard, bro. That's hard cuz look look. look. I I said this before. Kanye, in my. opinion, is a goat creative. That's. true. But Drake is the greatest rapper. ever. Greatest rapper ever. Greatest rapper ever. Do you think so? Like in terms of in terms of what? In. terms of numbers or in terms of. In terms of everything, bro. actual bars In terms in terms of his. influence in rap, his terms in. versatility. Bro, He does have really.

He's really versatile. I love Drake. I. love Drake, bro. He can put you in the. feels and get you hyped in like the same. day. Exactly. You pick Kanye over Drake? Personally, personal choice. But but what What are. What are your catalysts to say that? Cuz. Drake numbers Okay. It's Drake. But if it's about numbers, that means. McDonald's would be the best restaurant. in the world. You know what I'm saying? opinion, McDonald's is the best. restaurant in the world, in my opinion. That's fair. That's fair. But you know what I'm saying? It's just. like the You could say oh, numbers Drake. is the best because of numbers. He's.

always been on top. He's better than the. Beatles. He's. catching up to Michael Jackson, but it's. like yes, numbers do prove like that. somebody is great, Mhm. but that does that doesn't mean. like they're the greatest, you know what. I mean? Okay, look look. But I'm not I'm not. downing Drake. I love Drake. I listen to. Drake every single day. The day I I set. my foot in Toronto, that's all I've been. listening to. Views from the 6, Toronto. Bro, first of. all, like sidetracking, Views from the 6. is the perfect visualization of Toronto. That's all I'm just trying to. Like you listen to that and you felt it?

I I've been listening to that album for. like 5 years and as soon as I started. playing it, it hit different here, you. know? Cuz I started noticing the references. and like even the album cover I was like. damn. I was looking at the CN Tower the. other day. I was like yo, that looks. like the CN Tower. You even get the temperature from it, bro. You know what I mean? You get the. temperature from it. That's And that. goes back to the ideas like you don't. get you don't get the vision until you. see it, you know what I mean? Cuz I. think I think Drake's the goat because. he has the best of everything. He does. He has the best of everything and Kanye. only has that that segment of creativity. and bro, cuz look, Kanye has He has the.

He has great throwbacks, you know? He's. the goat from a long time ago, but. Drake's numbers it just shows already. It just shows who is the goat. It Cuz. Drake is the goat to more people than. Kanye is the goat to other people. But do you think if Kanye didn't get. into any controversy, do you think he'd. be bigger than Drake? No. You don't think so? No, I don't think so. Cuz I think about that all the time with. like Chris Brown, you know what I mean? Cuz Chris Brown was predicted to be the. next Michael Jackson. He's going to be. Michael Jackson. But after that. controversy, nobody was [ __ ] with him. anymore. But he still made good music.

He He does. He consistently makes good. music, but do you think if that. controversy with Rihanna never happened, do you think Chris Brown would be the. biggest artist? I don't think so. You. don't think so, really? I I think he. would be somewhat bigger, but I don't. think he would be I don't think he would. be bigger than Drake. You don't think he. would have been bigger than I don't. think he'd be bigger than Drake, bro. Possibly could have been bigger than. Drake. Okay, so here's why my Kanye's my. goat, though. Yeah. The reason I consider Ye my goat. is because he he doesn't I don't I. wouldn't say he People say like Kanye is. the biggest influence in rap ever, but I.

don't think he's influencing it. I think. he's paving the way. Okay, I guess that. is influencing. influencing, bro. He's like. He's like subconsciously influencing. people and people just don't know it. Like back then, 808s & Heartbreak, nobody liked the album when it came out. Not a lot of people were big fan of it. But now everybody is influenced There. would be no Travis Scott without 808s. There would be no Juice WRLD without. 808s. There would be a lot of people in. the music industry wouldn't be who they. are without 808s, you know what I'm. saying? No, that's facts. And like even. like fashion, when Yeezy when Kanye. first went into fashion, bro, Yeezy.

changed the game. It changed streetwear. It went It made streetwear from a. culture to a regular thing. Yeah. You. know what I'm saying? Like before like. before Yeezys came out and like Ultra. Boost were hyped, not a lot of like. there were sneakerheads, but not a lot. Yeah, cuz okay, in the sense of. creative, I think Kanye is a goat. creative. But he's the greatest creator. in my rap, too, though? Like if you. think about it, his discography like. Drake is versatile. I'm not going to. debate that, but Kanye is just as or. even more versatile than Drake has been. bro. Every single album has been.

different. College Dropout is different. from Late Registration. Late Late. Registration is like a graduation. like Drake, though. Kanye can't sing. like Drake. He couldn't do You heard You. heard Heartless, bro? No, but you can't. That's not like Drake, bro. You know. what I mean? Like he can't do no Find Your Love. That's true. That's true. Can't do no. Marvin's Room. But then But then then. you can't say Drake is the greatest. rapper. No, cuz he Because he's an. artist. Look look look. He's the. greatest rapper because he be he became. popular through rap, but it doesn't mean. he's just a rapper. That's true. So that's why he is the. greatest rapper. Just like I say Michael.

Jordan is the goat because Michael. Jordan isn't just the goat because he. played basketball. Michael Jordan's the. goat because he made basketball what. basketball is. Like he made basketball popular. He made. the sneakers huge, you know? And it's. still is that. The ultimate basketball. player is Michael Jordan. But if Kanye. if Kanye is the greatest rapper ever, we. have to take into look at his. discography, look at his numbers. Now if. his numbers aren't as good as this one. Look, Jordan is 6 for 6, man. Jordan 6. for 6. That's why he's my goat, bro. Yeah. So. that's why I don't think LeBron's a. goat. So I can't say I can't say.

Yeah, like you wouldn't say Floyd. Mayweather is the greatest boxer if he. lost. That's true. That's facts. And he's. undefeated, that's why he's the greatest. boxer. So Drake, in a sense, he's kind. of undefeated where look at the numbers, right? After Drake Okay, I would even. say Drake is the greatest musician. I. could say I could see that. I could see. Drake as a like the most solid like. musician. you're if you're talking like strictly, let's say lyricism in rap, then I would. give it to like Kendrick, you know? Kendrick or somebody else, you know what. I mean? I wouldn't give it to Drake, yeah. But if we're saying just like.

greatest rapper, I'd just say Drake. Okay, I can see that. I feel like in. in a general sense, In a general sense, yeah. in a general sense, I'd say Drake. is the greatest rapper. For sure, then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you like for. music heads and like people who dig. deeper, I think Kanye's the better. artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz see, it. depends who you're asking, right? Depends who you're asking. Cuz some. people some people listen They don't. listen to the music for the same things. that one person does, right? Yeah. Some Some Some person's listening. to the beats. Some person's listening to. the lyrics. Some people want the They want the.

story, right? And if it doesn't have. that, then it doesn't work for them, so. it's that's not their goat. That's That's fair. That's fair. It's. like That's like how people didn't like. didn't really [ __ ] with Donda. I think. Donda like to me, it's a 10 out of 10, but that's that's because like I still. think Donda's better than than COB, in. my opinion. Me, too. But I'm not going. to I would I would be a liar if I didn't. say I didn't like it at first. Oh, really? I'd say You you like Donda at. first? Donda listen? Yeah, like full through six out of 10. Really? Yeah? First CLB listen, 10 out of 10. Oh. Week later, Donda, 11 out of 10. A week.

later, CLB, solid seven. Yeah, no, no, no. CLB kind of got dry. See, that's the thing though, like. that's why I say Kanye is the goat. because he doesn't make music now, he. makes music for the future. Mhm. But does he make music for the. future or do people just follow that. formula? Does he make the new cookie. cutter? I don't know. It's hard to say if cuz he. has so much of an influence. He has so. much of like attention at him. It's hard. to say if they're just fans of. Exactly. Right? You can't really say if he's influencing. or people are just like just want to.

follow like that. Well, that's the same. thing. Mhm. But you know what I mean? Like I don't know, that's why he's my. goat. But like I love Donda now, 10 out. of 10. But at first, six out of 10. Who's who's your who's your favorite. rapper? Like cuz I remember you posted. on your story, what is one rapper that. you love the most? Like relate to, sorry. Oh, relate to? J. Cole. Oh, actually? No, Bryson. Bryson Tiller. Bryson Tiller? See, people consider him as like, oh, he's a. singer, he's an artist. Like but no, he. he goes hard when he goes bar for bar. Really like. Mhm. You know what I mean? So his lyrics. like hit you the most? He does. Trapsoul is my favorite album.

of all time. I've said this before. I've. said it like a million times. It's my. favorite album of all time. Even if it. might not be like a lot like the most. popular album for most people. Yeah. To me it is because it came and it's not. even like relatability, it's the time it. comes out, you know what I mean? That's. why Views is my favorite Drake album. Yeah, I heard that. For a lot of people, Views is not even top three. You know, most people like Take Care, Nothing Was. the Same. But for me, Views is number. one because of the time it came out. Because I was able to relate and the. feelings I had in the moment at that. time. Yeah. it's carried on till now. You know, every time I listen to Feel No Ways, I.

get the same feeling as I first listened. to it at first when I was like 15 years. old. Mhm. Whenever I listen to Trapsoul, I. remember the memories of what it was. like when I first listened to it. And. then maybe like when I got older, I. started understanding because I went. through the same experiences. Yeah. So now I see the album in a different. way. Cuz there's some songs you listen later. with me. That's why like I love I always. revisit albums constantly because like. in albums, like my top three songs in an. album always change constantly, constantly. Like Donda, it's changed so. many times. Like I've always liked. Heaven and Hell, you know what I mean? And Just Like and um Believe What I Say.

and 24. Like I was playing those three. on repeat. Now it's changing. Now I like. Come to Life, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that track. I. love that track. so amazing. And when. you see like the cinematic journey like. Kanye puts you through in that song, you're like, damn, I appreciate that. song so much more. Mhm. And then you. start seeing like you start listening. again, you're like, damn, that New Again. track with with Breezy is like, damn, I. really like that I like that track. because you're growing with it. Yeah. You grow like things don't really. hit the same the first time you things. don't really hit the way you want it to. the first time you press play. J. Cole. said something like that, you know what. I mean? You need to give it a couple.

plays. You do, you do. Cuz you you can't judge. anything by like a first listen. And that's everything, you know what I. mean? Like with ideas, like let's say. even new idea, are you going to give up. like if it bombs like the first video? Of course not. Yeah, you got to test it. out. Nostalgia drippin. Let's say like it got. let's say it did get 100 views your. first video. You're still going to make. more. going to make more, yeah. You believe in. the vision. If you believe in the. vision, Have faith, bro. Just have. faith. You just have to like see the. vision, like you know what I mean? I. always talk about it with my homeboy. Like people just don't see it yet. They're the greatest that they need to. be. Like people just don't know it yet. Mhm. You know what I mean? That's real [ __ ].

Like everybody else everybody's a. genius, everybody has a billion dollar. idea. They just people just haven't. don't see the vision yet. Mhm. These people just need to put on. paper. I think that's what people like. struggle with, you know? Yeah. People have a thousand ideas, people. have a million amazing ideas. I'm not. going to [ __ ] on any I that's why I. never [ __ ] on any ideas because I'm. like, I just don't see what they're. trying to say yet. Yeah, you don't see it yet. but then sometimes like the dumbest. ideas could be the greatest of all time. Yeah. Like celebrity boxing. Bro, who knows? You yeah, nobody knew at. the time like, oh [ __ ] that's going to. be a thing. Like oh, like I want to see.

I don't want to see YouTubers fight. Why. would I see YouTubers fight when I can. see am like real box professional. boxing. Yeah. And now look at boxing now. Like. I'm not saying boxing is dead, but I'm. saying like this influencer boxing is is. not only bringing interest of boxing to. boxing fans, but it's also bringing. light like interest of boxing to people. outside of boxing. Yeah, that's true. It's it's true, yeah. Yeah, you just can't [ __ ] on anyone's. ideas, man. Like you just got to stay. positive. You just got to like accept. everything. Be like, okay, you know. what? Maybe I just don't see things the. way he sees it yet. Yeah, exactly, bro. what I mean? You just have to see their.

vision. You know what I mean? You can't. have to you have to give people a. chance. Yeah. That's the thing. You have to give. people mad chances cuz sometimes people. just, you know, people just don't get. that chance. So just give them [ __ ]. Mhm. All right, yo, we got to wrap it. up. We're running out of time, but um. Nah, three more hours, bro. Yeah, thanks for coming through, bro. So. thankful to have you here. Uh you want. to shout out anything? Uh follow me on. TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Msumalari. I have a podcast, tell them to come. through. I don't know. Okay, all right. Thank you everyone for watching. Jumpers. Jump out. Peace out, y'all.