SASHA'S GHOST STORIES, MONA LISA THEORY, & HAUNTED TAROT READINGS - JUMPERS JUMP EP. 35

So, how did it all start? Like when you. were a kid, did you have like. inspiration? ask me this. Was it Was it like somebody. in your family? Was it like a celebrity? Someone famous? My grandfather, my dad's. dad. Mhm. He does art. Yeah. was honestly, do you remember like TVO. Kids? Oh, like Art Attack? Yes. Yeah, I know you're talking about.

Art Attack is what got me. I was like, "Oh yeah, that's it.". I love that show. I love that show. growing up. I don't know. Like that's honestly like. I never think about it, but that's. honestly like a big. That's like a real Canadian throwback. Yeah. Like not a lot of people remember. that [ __ ]. Yeah. And you know what's sad? What? I think. that guy died of a heart attack. So, it's like damn. What the heck? Well, but um Art Attack is mostly a. painting and stuff. So, you were. probably into painting when you were a. kid. Honestly? Or just drawing? Sketching. Yeah, like drawing. I never.

touched paint till I moved to Mary's. Not even in Not I used to go to. Pickering High, but not even at. Pickering High. Like cuz I didn't do art. cuz I had so many friends and like you. know what? Like in grade 9, 10 you just. take courses you know your friends will. take. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, is it grade 9? Is there electives? I haven't been in. high school in. you get like one and then grade 10 you. get two. Yeah. Right? So, what did you What did you. take? You took visual art obviously. I. took art in grade 9 and then in grade 10. I was like off of art cuz none of my.

friends were in art. Mhm. So, I was like. whatever and then I moved to Mary's and. then I was alone again. So, I was like, "Okay, I got to take things that I. actually like." Yeah, cuz cuz then it's. like you really want to get into stuff. that you want. Not necessarily like what. your friends are doing. Cuz then that's. when you start to see or you start to. make friends that are outside of your. original friend group with the same. interests as you. Yeah, that's how I. made friends with like Anna and Oh, word. Yeah. Oh, cuz yeah, cuz I forgot. you moved schools.

Yeah, I was Yeah, I was pretty sad. Like. honestly, like Mary's like really like. kind of pushed that saying to me of like. you know, things that may seem the worst. in that moment like can literally be the. best thing later on. You know what I. mean? Yeah, how so? How so? Cuz I made like so. many new friends that like had the same. interests as me cuz I took art. And then. like that school I found like maybe. people will disagree with me, but like. it was a like all the teachers and stuff.

they actually cared about you. Yeah, for. sure. what I mean? Like they actually checked. in on you. Like It was a good. environment. Yeah, in my old school like you would. have a class with the teacher and. literally like if you saw them in the. halls, they wouldn't even like recognize. you sometimes. Yeah, they're like, "Oh, [ __ ] this kid.". Yeah, but at Mary's they're like, "Hi, see you like third period." And I'm. like, "Oh yeah, see you third period.". Like you know what I mean? So, art was definitely like your. favorite class, right? What do you use. as inspiration? Really? Okay. I'm. curious. Inspiration. I think it's like for me it's literally.

like things I'm looking at. Yeah. Like I. was literally like. on the toilet. I was on the toilet. And I saw this like. I have these like jars in my bathroom, right? And there was like shells in one jar and. I started like making pictures in my. head with the shells. Word. Yeah. Like I'm seeing things kind of like how. people look at clouds and they're like, "Oh, you know, I see a dragon." Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was looking at it. and I I literally saw a dragon in a jar. for a second and I was like, "I need to.

do this." And like sometimes the image. or the idea will stay in my head for. months and then like I don't know, something like comes in me and I was. like, "I I I can do it." And Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like that those type of. moments are so important for a creative. cuz like even for me randomly I'll be. Okay, so I have this story. I was. getting like a cardiologist check. Sorry, I love when you say that. Like I. was I like was binging your videos. I. was like, "I have this story.". All right, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I had like this.

There's this like curtain. Mhm. So, you. You know when you're in the hospital. they have like the curtains and and. [ __ ] I was lying down on my side. Why. were you in the hospital? Was it your. hospital or Yeah, it was it was a. hospital that I was getting like a test. Oh, you're okay? No, I'm good. I'm good. Okay. But I was getting like. So, they had the curtain and I was. looking at the thing. They're doing a. ultrasound on me. So, it was taking [ __ ]. maybe like 30 minutes plus. so long. So long. Yeah. So, I was looking at the. curtain and like I don't know if this.

was me freaking hallucinating or if it. was just me like really, really bored, but I started to see like faces, Yeah. images just in like random pat You see. that You see that blanket right there? Turn around right there. Yeah. It was. something like that. Okay. But it's so weird where you see. images. Like I make images out of things. that aren't supposed to be. Yeah. And I. feel like a lot of artists have that. Do. you Do you think the same? Yeah, I do. That's exactly like that's exactly how. it Or it's something like inspirational.

as in like a saying that turns into an. image. Word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's dope. How. did you come up with like wanting to do. theories? Theory Oh, yo, honestly. it's not just theories, but like you. know what I mean? Like conspiracy? Yeah. It For me it was. just always something I was in I was. interested in all the time. Just even um. just thinking outside the box. Like. trying to make something out of. something small. Yeah. Even though it. didn't mean that, what if we dive deeper. and it means something like this. That's. why I love art so much because you can.

really do that with everything. Yeah, it's nice. What I get inspiration from. also is like other entertainment. industry other arts. Like you know what. I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like yeah, I like to. do art, but like maybe a music video. will like inspire me or like. Mhm. even like a vlog or like a podcast. Word. Yeah, if I hear like a certain. word or like something like a certain. idea they're talking about, it starts. like. creating an image in my head. So, do you look more in the past or the. present? Past. And I could say way too much in.

the past, you know? Yeah, way too much in the past. I get. stuck sometimes. Mhm. Like. So, how far in the past are we talking? Like 2000s? Are we talking about like It. doesn't matter. freaking Leonardo da. Vinci era? Like whenever I was born. Yeah, okay. my past, you know what I. mean? I feel like that's with everyone. too, right? Even even just like rappers, singers, whoever. We always look at our. childhood. Yeah. Right? A lot of our. inspiration is from our childhood. Look. at them Look at all their chains. It's. freaking You got SpongeBob chains.

Yeah, what is Trippie? Trippie has like. Trippie has the the thing from Crash. Bandicoot, the game. Oh, yeah. I. remember Yeah, I remember it. The Ooga Booga or something. You know. what I'm talking about? He has a song. called like Ooga something. Yeah, yeah. It's from a game, Crash Bandicoot. But. that's from his childhood, right? Yeah. So, I feel like Yeah, so in your. art do you think you you pull from your. childhood the most? like Coraline. Word. Yeah, do you know any conspiracies about. Coraline? About Coraline? Maybe not. Nah.

but I've heard like there are some and. I'm like I should have researched, but I. can't. But I found Coraline is very. similar to Us, Jordan Peele movie. To I. don't think I You never watch that? Oh, it's a Jordan Peele movie. You know. Jordan Peele did Get Out? Oh, yeah. Yeah, and he made another. movie called Us. And pretty much what. it's about. It's It's a little bit. It's a little. bit. It's like creepy tone, you know? But it's like. there's versions of themselves like. clones. No, I did watch that. that, right? I did watch that. It had.

something to do with rabbits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I watched that. Mhm. That was scary, but. I liked it. And I feel like the ending. wasn't satisfying for me for some. reason. Oh, did you Did you catch like the. hidden meaning in it though? So, You. said tell me. So, yo, it was kind of. like a hidden detail if you notice in. the movie Us. when they're when they're listening to. the music, they were like, "Okay, snap. on beat with me." Remember the mom was. telling the son like, "Okay, like this. Like this." Right? So, in the I don't.

remember it. This feels like When did it. come out? 2018, something like that. I have. horrible memory, but continue. Yeah, but. anyways, at the end of the movie we find. out that the mom was the kid that got. switched. So, she was actually the clone. she was the Wait, the person who was not. the clone was out though, no? Cuz she. They traded places when they were kids. Yeah, it was at like she went through. like this like haunted house. yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then she saw someone that looked. just like her. Yeah, and a mirror. The.

clone choked her and then that's why the. other woman. was like. she couldn't talk properly. She's like. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah. that's the reason why the son So, supposedly the son is also the same too. because if you saw the clone of the son, he was always wearing a mask. Yeah, I. remember. He was like an odd oddball. Yeah. Yeah. And so both of them were. really the I think they're called the. unsullied or whatever. No, they're. called the whatever the clones.

You know, this is a side note. You know when you like learn a new word. and you just like use it for everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. That was so That was so weird. No, yo, that [ __ ] used to happen a lot. when when I was in elementary school. Especially. kid. Yeah. Yeah, I used to work like my mom's a. teacher. I used to work for her. Like a. kid will learn a new word and one of. them was like like they learned the word. disgusting. So, everything is That's. disgusting. Like they're eating their. food and they're. enjoying it, but they're like, "Disgusting." And I'm That's like their. favorite word now. Cuz I think when we.

were kids, whenever a word would come up. on a TV show, whether whether it be like. Suite Life Yeah. Or like Hannah Montana. Suite Life. Right? Yeah. The word would come up and then. all of a sudden you hear it everywhere. because everybody saw the same episode. that day. Yeah. Right? Yeah, for me that was like Phineas and. Ferb, I feel like. Mhm. Okay, okay. So, going back to like inspiration and [ __ ]. right? Do you Do you ever look at like. Picasso or like Leonardo or these. Michelangelo Honestly, I look at this.

artist named I think his name is Marc. Chagall. Mhm. I could be wrong. Yeah. But um. Is it more modern or No, no, no, no. It's like an older artist, for sure. Oh, I also like what's his name? Starts with. the M. Monet? Uh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like him, too. He's good. Yeah, so do. you ever like take inspiration from them. or do you think it's too much of a it's. too much of a pedestal that you don't. want to like steal? Yeah. Yeah, for me. it's like too much of a pedestal and. like for me it's like basically when you.

get inspired by other artists, it's like. you're kind of somewhat taking their. style and making it your own. But I do I. used to copy like color palettes. That's. where I like. Color palettes. Like basically if you. look at shoes, like colorways kind of. like yeah, like I think the artist I. like Marc Chagall, he worked with like a. lot of like dark blues, dark reds and. then like used white as like. highlighting. So it would like be like a. streak and it would just be like. mesmerizing to me. That's my favorite. thing about art is like highlighting. My favorite thing about art is just like. diving into the the inspiration or the.

meaning behind something. the painting. Cuz like if you look at a painting, not. only did they have that idea of the. painting, they had a story attached to. it, whether it'd been like a moment that. they remembered Yeah. or someone they remembered, right? Yeah. So I have a theory for you. Okay. So you ever heard about the Mona Lisa. theory? I feel like I've heard theories. about her, but like I don't know. But. tell me cuz I don't. So there's a theory that the Mona Lisa. isn't actually a painting of a woman,

it's a painting of a man. Oh, I've heard. that. Like if you look too long or. something, that like she looks like a. guy or something. No, no, no, listen. So. it's a painting of Leonardo da Vinci's. friend and supposed lover. But he kept it a secret cuz of that. time. yeah. So um they did like infrared Yeah, they did like infrared scans of. Leonardo's work painting his friend. Salai, right? Okay. That's his friend, supposedly.

like twins basically, but one's a girl. and one's a boy. So he painted Salai would always dress. as a woman, like for fun. For fun. For fun, he would dress as a woman. Mhm. So supposedly, those paintings of. Salai before, they look very similar to. the Mona Lisa. I'll put it up both. I would say like as someone who likes to. do art, that's definitely a believable. theory. Right? Because like when I like I'm exposing. myself now. But whenever I had like a. crush or something, like my pieces,

whether it was on purpose or not on. purpose, would look somewhat like my. crush. Or like I'd use like certain birthmarks. or like beauty spots on their face, I'd. put them in. But that's dope though cuz. it's like um it's a little piece of you. It's a little piece of like your your. mental, you know what I mean? And. everyone says that when they look at. like my portraits and stuff, they're. like it they say like it's someone I. know. It looks like my mom or looks like. my dad my friend. And I sometimes it's. not on purpose. Like you're naturally.

inspi- Like that's why it's easier for. me to draw people I know. Like I drew. Sophia the other day and you Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That was dope. It was easy. for me like it was quick cuz like I have. my own images of her in my head. Word. That makes sense, yeah. you know what I mean? Whereas it's way. harder for me when I don't know the. person. Yeah, that's that's true. Cuz like when. you see someone so often. Yeah. then you really take in like the fine. details you wouldn't notice as if like. someone you just seen the first time. And I feel like you look at people. differently after you've drawn them. Word. Yeah, like you just like I don't.

know. Like I'll just look at their face. and be like I remember drawing that. eyebrow was so hard. But like you just. look at their face differently. Like. instead of like them as a person, you. start looking at them like a piece of. art kind of. Word. That's cool. It is. cool. So so you see like shapes. So you. see kind of like lines. Literally, like I see lines. And it's. almost like the person in a weird way is. less dimensional. You know what I'm. trying to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it. doesn't make sense, but. I'm clicking this.

This one? I'm sorry. See, what I really like about. you, you think in that way. You think. like a creative. Cuz that's kind of a. rare trait to see like, okay, I think of. everything in my field, I mean. Cuz for. me, when I just have a regular. conversation, I study like speech. You Oh, cuz. speech cuz obviously I got to run the. podcast. So I I I tend to see like voice. patterns, what works with their voice or. um like for example, just their their. train of thought. Like, okay, they're.

into this type of thing, maybe they'll. go down into this line if they like this. type of interest. It's kind of like. learning people. That's what I really. love. Yeah, like and there's more and. more like depth the more you go into it, you know what I mean? Also, another. thing is like all artists really like. support each other. Like a singer might. like be so into it. Like a lot of. singers buy so much art or like artists. like love music and they listen to music. when they're painting. Like. we kind of all kind of grow off and feed. off of each other, you know? Cuz it's an. appreciation of just the work in.

general. Yeah, and even like a podcast, like you know, you could be listening to. it while doing art and you know, you get. inspired by what they're talking about. I noticed you talk like a lot of your. podcast talked about ghosts and stuff. Yeah, yeah. I was going to talk about. ghosts, but I'll. Oh yeah, we'll go story right now? I. have so many ghost stories. No way. Okay, I got to hear some. I got. to hear some now. Let's hear it. Let's. hear it. Um I feel like ever since I was. like a little kid Ever since you were a. little kid, you saw ghosts? Yeah. But. like also I've always lived like behind.

a forest. Oh. Like ever since I was a. kid, like like I don't know. Sometimes, you know, when you can like feel there's. energy. Like you just. No, I know what you mean. I know what. you mean. You get the the eerie feeling. or like like dark energy. Cuz it's the. same as like happy energy. Like when you. when you go into a club, you get a vibe. Okay, there's like obviously good. spirits and bad spirits. But like when. it's a good spirit or like a familiar. spirit, like okay, so okay, you know. tarot cards? Everyone knows. It's like a. kind of like trend now. But like I've. been reading them since I was like a. younger kid. reading them? Yeah. Ever since I was.

like nine. how to do it? Yeah. Do it for like a lot of my. friends. Oh [ __ ] can you do it for me? Do you. have no money? No. That would've been. cool. Next time, next time. Yeah. But I. feel like because I'm like I don't know. if I'm religious or like it's like. faith, I always believe it's like you're. asking higher beings and whoever you. follow. You see you feel a spiritual connection. Yeah. So let me tell you what happened. One time I was doing a reading. Yeah. for someone who has like bad. energy. Really? they're not like It's I'm not saying.

it's wrong to not be religious, but like. they they were like kind of dissing like. anyone who believes in. Really? being, yeah. Oh [ __ ]. So yeah, they were like, oh like F that, F whatever. Like no. And I was like, okay. And they're like, can you do a. reading for me though? And I was like, like they're like, I'm bored. Like let's. just do a reading. And I was like, I. don't know if I want to like do a. reading for someone who, you know, Yeah. like doesn't believe in other like. beings or presences. Mhm. And I had like. a bad feeling. And that person just.

Oh, you got it right away. Yeah, and that person just didn't have. the best energy to be around all the. time. yeah. But I don't know. I did it, but I. was like nervous and like usually I like. pray before the reading or something. Or. like I light a candle. Like you hear all. those things and you think that people. are just being extra or like it's just a. part of the commercialism of like. readings and stuff. Yeah. But there's like meaning behind. all that. Yeah, you're supposed to do it. You're. supposed to. And I had bad energy. the entire time and I just felt like. there was literally like just like a.

heavy cloud above us and I was like, okay, this is weird, right? Yeah. You know how everyone says like 3:00. a.m. is like the witching hour? You know. what I'm talking about? So after that. reading, she I had a really bad feeling. Like a really weird feeling and I woke. up at 3:00 a.m. and I went back to bed. and I felt like I was being woken. Oh. I felt like you know when you like get. out of your sleep and you're just like. like if you're just like irritable or. something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it felt like like. my eyes just like was like like it felt. like I was. like oh like someone woke me up. And I.

was feeling like really weird and I was. like, okay, I have a really strange. feeling and I just went to bed with the. lights on. I was like holding my rosary. and I was like, please like, you know. So I went back to bed. Yeah. And then um at 6:00 a.m. I like. woke up and like I saw the person I did. a reading for was calling me. And I was. like, oh weird. And I picked up and the. person was like crying their eyeballs. out. And they were like, oh like Sasha, my back like burning da da da da. like didn't believe her. I was like, that's when she's like, I literally. feel, you know, like something's up.

Like there's something definitely wrong. And her parents came in the room and. took a picture of her back. Yeah. And she had like BIG LIKE NO. YEAH. There's no way she did it herself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. way. Like the way it was, like there's. no way she did it herself. Mhm. And like I was really freaked out. and I was like, okay, like, you know, I. had a bad feeling. Oh yeah, she said she. was like walking past her like shelf. Yeah. Like her family shelf. You know how. there's like people have them in their. house of like trophies and stuff. And.

like each was personalized. So like one. was for her dad, one was for her mom, one was for her. Yeah. And all the stuff on her shelf. like fell off. No, are you serious? No, this is like. this is not it. Like and the parents. were like, okay, yeah, this is messed. up. Like this is weird. [ __ ] And like every night every night. for like two, two and a half weeks, I. was waking up every day at 3:00 a.m. Like between 3:00 a.m. and like 3:18. a.m. Holy [ __ ]. the time. Like I was just like so. afraid. And I just feel like really like. strange. Like and one time like I felt.

like someone was like behind me like. whispering. And like like I was trying. to turn my head, but it felt like. someone was like not letting me turn my. head. Like was holding my head down. What the what? Yeah. I have a couple stories like that. Damn. So okay, were you always like a. medium or you could you could do these. things? You could feel these things? I'm a medium. I definitely feel like. there's a lot of spirits and energy like. around all the time. spiritually aware. Yeah. Mhm. Yeah, whether I want to be or not. When my.

grandfather passed away, I was also. woken up a lot. Yeah. But not like that stark like stark eye. like oh my god like it was like a. peaceful like someone would be like I. could feel like yeah, someone was there. Mhm. But like sometimes it's just not. one of those nice waking up pleasant. Yeah. Yeah. So, was that like the first. spiritual or kind of experience you had? Like a first episode like that? No. The. first one Yeah. was like me and my best friend. She's.

also very religious. Not Sophia. Hi. Sophia. Not Sophia. Sophia. But. no, it's it's another Sophia actually. Her name's Sophia too. But like. basically she moved to this new house. Yeah. And it's really creepy. Like it's just. really creepy. Like even if you weren't. spiritually like It just looks scary. weird. Like it's just weird. of those. Yeah, it's one of those houses. and like she moved to like BC for a bit. like she has two little brothers. And I.

used to go like see them a lot. Mhm. I'll be babysitting them all the time. but I'd have like really weird feelings. in that house and I get so sleepy like. whenever I was there. But not like cuz I. you know it was like a shift and I woke. up too early or I went to bed too late. Like it wasn't like that. It was just. like instantly when I went there I felt. like super weak and like just like uh. Oh, so you had like your energy drained. type thing? Yeah, like drained yeah. And basically. so like I this was like two times into. babysitting them. I had a dream about.

babysitting but it was two girls and. they happen to be the same ages as the. two boys. Oh. looked similar and it was like the mom. looked exactly the same but they didn't. have the same name. And the house layout. was exactly the same. What happened was. um the older brother kept telling me the. house was haunted. Or in the dream the. older sister kept telling me the house. was haunted. Mhm. And being like oh like someone's. trying to kill us here like. Woah. Yeah, like and I'm like what that's so. weird or whatever, right? And then. I had to save them from like whoever it.

was and it was like this lady, right? And she was like all like she was like. in all black like her hair was like. greasy black like straight and she had. like wings on her shoulders. Like she. didn't have wings but she had like. feathers like coming from her shoulders. Bro. And you remember it like clearly. so clearly like sometimes when I close. my eyes I see her and I'm like please. But yeah, so basically I had that dream, right? And ever since I had like an. eerie feeling about that house and.

everything like but I didn't connect the. two yet. Like I didn't connect my dream. to like the boys. Oh, so you just thought oh it's just. like a nightmare. nightmare. Yeah, I was like that's. scary. And then one night maybe like a. week after or so my friend called me. really early cuz I woke up again out of. my sleep at like 3:00 a.m.-ish. Mhm. I. woke up and I was like I had a really. strange feeling. And then I texted my. friend Sophia and she was like oh I'm. awake. I'm going to call you and I was. like okay. And she called me and she was. like bro like the weirdest [ __ ] just.

happened. And I was like what happened? And she was like I literally saw the. little boy like her little brother like. the covers being like pulled off of him. Yeah. And he had said he was telling her. like oh there's this lady who bothers me. and she has black long hair. What the [ __ ] and like feathers like. and I was. what the heck? What the hell? Yeah, and he. he told and he's little. He's like he. was three at the time. Yeah. So it's not like he was making it. up. And he had told her that like she. knows Sasha. He's like oh she's friends.

with Sasha. And I was like. No, are you serious? Yeah, I was like what the heck? Yeah, yeah. They And like things kept. happening like more things. I can't even. remember. There was like a lot happening. for like two months and then they ended. up moving from that house cuz it was. just like too much. Like so many things. were happening. I can't. So it was like real like they know. that's paranormal [ __ ] happening at that. house. [ __ ] that and they left. knew. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, and you know when like I don't. know if you've seen like haunted movies. and stuff. It's always like when there's. a ghost like the whole family's mood is.

just negative and everyone's fighting. and there's always problems happening. Like that's what was going on in that. house. Really? So like the vibe of the family. like The yeah. It was just going And. like she would always tell me that the. boy was always drawn to the back. windows. Like he'd always just be around. there and just like literally just like. laying on it and like. And like when I would babysit I realized. like we all would always just want to. look at the window. Like we just stare. at the window and just look out. Like I. caught Yeah, and I was one time I was. like brushing his teeth like at where.

the back window was and I was like not. concentrating like hurt him and I was. like oh my god I just had a weird. feeling about that house. ever find out the story of it? No. Cuz you know you can look down into the. records of the homeowners before or even. look into like old newspapers of [ __ ]. that might have happened. That's crazy. Where where was it? Where was this? Oh, like deep Ajax the woody part of. Ajax like very like where the houses are. like very separate from each other. Mhm. So it's a old ass house. old house. Yo, do you think there's a.

connection of dreams and just like Do. you think dreams hold like kind of like. an entrance to a different dimension? Uh yeah. I feel like I feel like for me. dreams are such a big thing like they're. such a big deal. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like another dimension and. I feel like You know what's weird what. people say? This is like a side note but. you know how people always say like. people you see in your dreams are. someone you've had to seen before. Yeah, you know what? That's kind of. true. Do you believe that? I think that. there's some truth to that cuz like how.

would you create a face that that is. nobody? You know what I mean? Yeah. You would have to create it from. similarities of people you've seen. before. I like going back to art like when I. draw people it's like a mixture of a. whole bunch of people I know. If it's. like someone's like oh draw a person. from your head I'm like okay but it's. literally probably like a mix up of. people I know. Cuz it's subconscious, right? Cuz our subconscious it's going. to remember [ __ ] that we wouldn't even. like think about. And it's just there. It's just in the. back of our head. So bam it just shows. up in your dream one day. Right? Yeah. So you know when we were kids and.

we would have like a nightmare or just. even in media in general every time. somebody talks about a dream they're. always like oh don't worry it's just a. dream. It's just a dream. But really. what is a dream? You know what I mean? I know. Where does it come from? Where does it come from? And like who's putting them there? Yeah. Cuz I don't believe in like. I guess that's me uh someone who creates. and like you create. I always believe. there's like a creator for every single. thing like that. Which is why I feel. like I'm so faithful. Yeah, no me too. cuz I know this is proof there's there's.

a creator. Like everything here is proof. there's a creator. We are proof. Do you. know any theories about like why he. created us? Why he created us? Yeah. I don't know. Cuz like someone. told me it's because he was lonely. Like. he was just lonely and he was like I. need. Really? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. It's it's so hard to. know cuz like we we won't even find out. Mhm. Cuz if we're talking about God. himself. Well, if you believe in afterlife cuz I. think you and Sophia talked about this. I feel like he'll like tell you.

everything when you get up there. You think so? Yeah. Like I feel like. everything's just out in the open and he. like shares everything. Mhm. But in my. opinion I don't know if we could ever be. on his level. You know what I mean? I. don't I don't think I don't think it's. going to be cuz what if what if we So. you think when you get to like heaven. per se or like whatever you think. Whatever it is. You don't think you you. still don't see him? No, I think we we come in his presence. but it's still not going to be on the. level of we'll know everything. I feel. like it will forever be a mystery. Mhm.

Cuz I think in my this this is my. perspective what heaven is. I think the. afterlife or what heaven is is up to us. and it becomes our experience on Earth. So whatever experience we had on Earth. whether it be good or bad, right? So. let's say you're evil. You're let's say you're really like a. you're like a serial killer or. something, right? When you go to sleep. at night when you go to sleep at night. everything in your head is what? It's. evil. It's [ __ ] it's like Like. everyone you're saying like. No, like like if you're evil.

person? you're a bad person and you do evil. [ __ ] Yeah, you're like who am I going. to kill next? Like that's what you're. thinking. Yeah. When you go to sleep at. night your subconscious is is thinking. about what? Bad [ __ ] Evil [ __ ]. Nightmare type [ __ ] right? Now if you. live a really happy life. You live like. your life now is peaceful paradise. Everything is positive. I feel like that. is kind of a push into into that heaven. sense. You know what I mean? So I think. whether Okay. This this is just my. thinking, right? This is my I don't want.

to say this is true whatever. Okay. Cuz. obviously we'll never know. But I. personally think when you go to heaven. it becomes whatever we lived. It becomes. the best of what we lived. Our. experiences. you're saying if you're a bad person you. go to. down there. Because you've experienced bad [ __ ] or. because you've been involved in that. saying that like cuz I heard that you. know when you're down there I don't like. saying. h e double Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like when you're down there you relive.

the like sin or the bad thing that you. did. You live it like over and over. again like the same thing. What what if. what if the afterlife is like a dream? What if it's like a never ending dream. state? for like eternity basically is what. you're saying. Yeah. Cuz our our brain is done. Like. you know what I mean? See cuz I like when I watched yours and. Sophia's you were saying that you don't. believe in reincarnation, right? Okay, here's the thing. I I don't know. anymore. I still don't know. Okay. Cuz I. I'm still like halfway in here halfway.

in here. I'm very open-minded to every. theory, Okay. Yeah, see so I believe in. like reincarnation and I know what's. your religion? I'm Catholic. Yeah, yeah. We went to the same. Yeah, but some kids are not. But um. yeah, but like I I in our religions you. don't we don't necessarily believe in. reincarnation. to, yeah. Yeah, like Hinduism and all. that believe in reincarnation. But like. personally, just because I'm Catholic. and I believe in God. Yeah. doesn't believe that I don't. believe there could be other creators. altogether, you know, like kind of like.

Yeah, cuz in a sense a lot of it is the. same. A lot of All of the ideas Yeah, all of the ideas and the concept behind. religion are the same, teaching you to. do good, you know, don't steal. So like. the 10 Commandments are like in other. religions, like they have, you know what. I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I feel like. reincarnation is real. And like I feel. like the only way you get to like. nirvana or like heaven is by reaching. your like path of like your journey of.

like and then succeeding. But I feel. like if you don't, you're put back on. No, yeah, that's what I heard, too. Yeah, that's I think that's a part of. Hinduism, but you keep getting they have. like the the like classes or like the. caste system, I think. Mhm. Right? But yeah, um I do believe in. that. Like I feel like if things don't. work out even in one section, you get. put back. Yeah. Yeah. Like say like you're. successful, you like are doing well with. your career, like you're rich, like.

whatever, but then your love life gets. messed up or something. I feel like. still your creator is like, "Nope, not. good enough. You're going to get put. back till you succeed in all all of the. different ideas of like, you know what I. mean?" Yeah, cuz um I heard, you know, XXXTentacion. Yeah. So he's he had this really like. deep quote. He said, "Someone asked him. like what do you what do you think. happens after death?" Mhm. Right? And X. was huge on spiritual [ __ ]. love I love him personally. I know. there's like controversy about him and. like things he's done. Yeah. But I like.

I like him. Yeah, he was very. spiritually aware. And he said this. quote, he was like, I he he thinks there. is a heaven, but if you didn't get it. right, you do it again. Yeah. Yeah. You. didn't do it right. Yeah, that's what I believe, too. I. think he had like like a vlog thing Mhm. about just like his ideas on life. Oh, I. should have brought my should have. brought my journal here. Yeah. Yeah, I. like wrote down the things he was. saying. And it was crazy cuz as I was. writing at the very end he was like, "I. hope you were writing this down in your. journal." And I was like.

Oh, and you're writing it. I am. Yo. Yeah, but um he was talking about. different things like succeeding in like. career or whatever. Manifestation. Manifestation. Maybe you watch the same. thing as me. Maybe. Yeah, he was talking about manifestation. a lot. And the importance of Believing. in yourself. Believing in yourself and. like how life's a game. Like you choose. your character. Literally, you can do. whatever you want. Yeah. Cuz really, if if you take it in, everybody kind of starts on the same. level, right? Not like Okay, we don't.

really start on the same level as the. position we're put in cuz we don't know. where we grow up. Yeah. You know what I mean? We don't. know where we grow up. But we all have. the same type of life. Like we have a. life. Mhm. And with life, we decide to. take on different purposes, right? We. can see, "Okay, I'm interested in this. Mhm. Maybe I'll go down this path. Maybe. I'm interested in this, I'll go down. this path." But really, none of us were. given our set goal. Mhm. It's like it's. up to you. It's up to you what you want. to do. It's your game. It's your life. You have to choose what you want to do. Yeah. Right? Literally, it's it's literally a.

game. Like you choose exactly what you. want. Mhm. While you were talking, I was. thinking what you were saying. My head. went into a whole bunch of other like. little things. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I was just. thinking to do all these things you need. to have like a lot of confidence in. yourself, right? So I was going to ask you like how do. you have like how do you have the. confidence to like, you know, start and. just be like, "I'm not stopping whether. or not I'm failing right now or not?". Having the confidence? Yeah. Yo, it start it really just starts. with yourself. Mhm. You know what I. mean? I I think it was Sun Tzu. You know. who Sun Tzu is? He was like.

He wrote The Art of War. The Art of War. It was like an ancient Chinese text, right? Okay. The Art of War. People in the. military still study this to this day. Wow. Still to this day, right? Mhm. And. one of his quotes was like, "If you know. yourself and you know the enemy, then. you will never lose." And it I I feel. like that that quote is so true is. because you really need to know yourself. to be true in whatever you do. Like the and you're talking about the. enemy and yourself? The enemy as in. whatever. Uh your enemy is literally the obstacles.

that come in front of you. Any. boundaries, anything that stops you from. doing what you want to do is an enemy, right? So it doesn't have to be a. person. It doesn't have to be it could. be like a roadblock. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the. enemy cuz you're in my way from. accomplishing what I want to do. Mhm. So. really, you need to know yourself first. Like And I feel like a lot of people. they're not true with themselves Mhm. to. where like they think they kind of lie. to themselves. They lie to themselves in. a point where I think I can do this. better than this or I.

I don't know I don't know how to say it. without being rude, you know what I. mean? Yeah. Yeah. But like you have to you. have to think about what are you really. really good at and you know you're truly. good at, no matter what anybody else. says. I believe in myself because of. this. And once you have a grasp of that, Mhm. that's when the true confidence. comes. Cuz then you're like, "Okay, [ __ ]. you. I know everything.". Yeah, you're not waiting on other people. to believe in you. You believe in. yourself and that's all you need. That's all you need. That's all you. need. Cuz if your if your fuel is other. people's kind of agreement.

Mhm. then that [ __ ] isn't forever. Yeah. This right here, this is forever. You. your self-confidence, your your own ego. is yourself. and go, yeah. Yeah, you're staying here. forever. You're here with yourself the. whole journey. or not you like it or not, so you might. as well like it, you know? Mhm. But I was thinking, too, about like. people who are like in the industry or. like creative minds and stuff. Yeah. And it's like for me, sometimes I. think about it and it's sad how people. who are like not bad people, but people.

who like. are not the best. Yeah, yeah. they get high and they get. so many like followings. Like cuz I. always think about how amazing it is. that you got so many like followers and. you're a good person. Mhm. He's a good person to follow, yeah. It just makes me happy because I know. you're a genuine person. And like I feel. like a lot of people who watch podcasts. and things are like everyone in general. are is not trying to be alone. Like. that's like a human's worst fear is like. loneliness, failure and all that. For a. reason like why I watch podcasts or.

I like ASMR, so. Yeah. Like the reason why I watch these things. is because like it's like when I'm alone. or like I can't sleep, it's nice to feel. like other people are there. Like it's. like a white noise thing. I feel like a. lot of people watch podcasts as white. noise. comforting. like company in a way. Like you feel. like you're with them. So it's nice that. like people like your followers. Hi guys. have you to like kind of like be around. them all the time, you know what I mean? Cuz for me as a kid growing up or like.

whenever I was having a bad day or I was. going through things. Yeah. I'd like sit down and watch my. favorite YouTuber or something like. that. And like I genuinely had a love. for them, like, you know? Or I like I. liked them a lot. And I'd enjoy and be. like, "I get It's almost like spending. time with them." It's like. They become your role models. You're. like, you know, like you would think of. your following like or the people who. like view you as like your friends kind. of like. Mhm. Like I'm so aware of the camera. because like I'm like I'm like thinking. of it as the people who watch you like. instead of like the screen. I'm like. Mhm. Yeah, cuz there's people there.

watching. There's people there listening. and they some things I say, whether be. like the good I I really hope they take. the good [ __ ] out of what I say. You know what I mean? Cuz I know I say. some dumb [ __ ] Like just for. entertainment. But I I try and leave as. much of a good impact on my following as. I can. I mean, if there's a little bit. of like inspiration I can give to them. Yeah. Anything they might need, anything. that I I think is very valuable to them, I'm going to leave it out here for them. Yeah. I'm going to leave it out here for them. so they can succeed, too. I feel like as.

like anyone who's in entertainment. Mhm. the reason why we're in. entertainment or the arts Yeah. is like. literally like if someone says like, "What's your passion?" It's not art or. like for you like maybe I'm wrong, but. I'm pretty sure it's probably the same. for you. It's not podcasts and talking. It's connecting with as many people as. possible. Yeah. So the passion is actually people. Mhm. You know what I mean? what? I think that that's like so true. Yeah, but I feel like if you're not like. a I feel like if you're not like a legit.

artist or a legit like any entertainer. or influencer, like if you don't. actually care about people, you're not. you're you're a false one. Word. mean? Like but I feel like most artists or. anyone, if you talk to them like even if. they are not aware that their passion is. people, I feel like it's people. down inside? cuz you're just trying to connect with. as many people as possible, you know. what I mean? You're trying to share your. story to them. like I. you know, I have like stage fright. Like.

I hate presentations. So when you asked. me like, "Do you want to be on the. podcast?" I was like, "No." But then I. thought about it again and I was like, "You can connect with like so many. people cuz you have like such a good. following." I was like, "You know, I can. like reach out to many people as. possible.". that's what I think is so important cuz. I want to give people that platform, you. know Yeah. And like I could say things. that I would want to share and like get. out there, you know what I mean? But I. am afraid I'm going to get bullied, so. No. Please don't bully me. Go going back to the confidence thing, like you just have to take those shots, right?

why I asked you. Cuz I feel like where I. lack is like ego. Like I have way too. much ego to the point where it's like it. stops me from doing things because I'm. so afraid of like people like not liking. me. Word, yeah. So it stops me from like. pushing myself. Like even with the NFTs, I'm like not pushing myself because I'm. like, "What if someone's like, why is. this even like why does she think she. can Cuz here's the thing, like if you. have such an ego, there's good ego and. there's bad ego, right? You agree? Mhm.

So when you have an ego that. restricts you from doing what you want. to do, that's the bad ego. That's like. the toxic one you have to change. Yeah. Because it's it's good to have that. confidence ego. Mhm. Right? But you also. have to be open. You also have to be. open to where like, "Okay, I'm so big, but doesn't mean I can't do this, right?" It's like being too cool for. school. You know what I mean? That type. of that type of mentality. When you see. these uh let's say these rappers are too. cool to show up for the meeting.

Obviously I I'm not there, but if I had. such a following, I feel like I'd truly. love like every single person. I don't. know. I feel I just don't understand how. like when people get big, they like just. like. You know you know what it is? You know. what it is? It's it's so hard to connect. when there's so many people at the same. time. Yeah, I understand that. And I'm. not saying like answer every DM. Like. I'm not saying that, but it's like when. you start showing disrespect. Oh yeah, okay. That's different. like, "Okay, really?" Like they got you. up here, you know what I mean? Yeah, cuz.

I You know I really try and answer every. single DM I get. I try and comment every. single comment that comments on my on my. post, right? what I wanted to say too about like. Carlos. Yeah. is that like even after you've. gained a following and like you're an. influencer now. That's so weird to say, right? So weird. to say. Like not that you're not. qualified. Like I can totally see why. you are one, but it's like it's so weird. to think about. I'm like, "We went to. school together.". So weird. But um you still like follow.

everyone from high school and you still. interact with all of us. Like it's not. like you're like too big. You know what. I mean? Mhm. Sometimes when people get. followings like unfollow everyone. Like. they're like zero follow. I'm following. zero people now. But you like kept your. followers. Cuz I I try to cuz not only. taken some off, but like majority. Yeah, but like I just want to I want to stay. true. You know what I mean? And and for. me I I never do ill to people that. didn't do me. You know what I mean? I'm. going to give everybody the same. respect. I'm still the same Carlos that. went to high school. It's just like I.

have different things now, right? I. still have the same heart. My heart. hasn't changed. Yeah, that and that's. what I feel like people who are like. that should get pushed higher and. higher, you know what I mean? Cuz you're. following you're probably going to teach. them the same. Like you know, like from. your heart. Cuz if you want to see a change or if. you want to see more of that, then you. got to do it yourself and you got to. spread that message. these big like rappers that get such a. bad name or you're like you see their. their mug shots or whatever. Like even. them they're they love their like. followers. Like they're like some of.

them will go back to their hometown and. like throw cash out of their cars or. like give them all like I don't remember. who it was. I think it was Lil Baby. Maybe not. Maybe I'm wrong. But like one. of them like yeah, he only wears his. clothes once, but he goes to his like. hometown and he gives them all the new. stuff. So like when you go. yeah, so when you go to his like. neighborhood, they're all wearing like. No way. That's sick. Yeah. Cuz it's it's. important to just remember where you. came from. Cuz that's that's what made. you. And like if you think about it like.

you got to love them because they love. you like they love you. Like that's why. they watch you or they support you is. because like they're just a fan of your. personality and like your spirit. So. it's like you know what I mean? Yeah, that's what I love to you cuz I I. feel like podcasting is kind of the best. where I can get that. Mhm. You know what I mean? Cuz I can. really they I'm not really selling. anything besides my personality. All it. is is just my personality. Like whatever. topics come with it, it's just my. personality, my opinion on [ __ ] And if. people [ __ ] with it, that means so much.

You know what I mean? Sorry. I'm like. I'm thinking about what you're saying, but it's a part of me is like, "Posture. Posture." Like. cuz my posture is so horrible, guys. Yeah, no. Exactly. So props to you and. your personality, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. One more thing. Can I say something really quick? Another thing I I get from like like. when we talk about inspiration and. stuff. Yeah. I feel like shows even shows you. watch and stuff like anime shows and. stuff. Like Do Do you watch Attack on. Titan? Yeah, I watch Attack on Titan. Yeah, um what's his name? Armin? He said.

something Did I say his name wrong? Armin? He said something about people. and like everyone. I just want to ask. you your opinion on this. Mhm. Everyone is about self-preservation. in the end. So even good people or. people who do things for others, in the. end it's it's about self-preservation. It's for themselves. Yeah. Like doing things for good people. or doing things for people makes you. feel good. No, that's true. So I'm wondering I'm like confused cuz. I'm like, "Is that true or is it not. true?" No, cuz look look. It It is true,

but it's good though. Yeah. Cuz I see. this good. Cuz look, people have their. crutch. You know what I mean? Whether it. be good or bad, somebody everybody has. their own type of crutch. And it's it. kind of goes hand in hand with like. their their interests, their hobbies, right? So let's say Floyd Mayweather, his crutch is training. Like he loves. training. So if your crutch is helping. others, then it's good. If you get that. that sense of like I get all this. pleasure. thing. as long as it's for the greater good. Yeah. Because I was confused. I was like.

like I was like contradicting myself. because I like doing things that make. people feel good. But it makes you feel. good. Yeah, it makes me feel so good, but I'm. like, "Is it wrong because of like what. Armin said?". think so. Okay. I don't But it is it is. a sense of like are you doing it for the. right reason? But does it at the end of. the day does that matter? True. At the. end of the day does it matter? And I. think he also said something about a. good person is someone you can take. advantage of. Like whenever you hear. someone say, "Oh, that's a good person.". It's because that person's done. something good for you or like someone.

you've seen like that you see you can. take advantage of. And I'm like I don't. believe like that's true, but a part of. me is like. I feel like that could be. Like a good. person is someone you can take advantage. of? you see a good person is like like say. you say like, "Oh, that person's so like. that they're such a good person." But. it's really because. They're trying to They're trying to. prove something. See here's the thing, right? Cuz you look at um you know the. quote like a nice guy? Mhm. Oh, that's. sad. in that [ __ ] right? That's sad. But But look look look. A nice guy isn't.

actually a nice guy if he has an agenda. Mhm. He's being nice just so he can get. with somebody. Oh, so he's not actually nice. He's not actually nice. He's being nice. He's putting on this persona like, "Oh. yeah, blah blah. I'm like a nice guy.". So he gets in there. a nice guy. Yeah, you know what I mean? What do What do you think about that? Honestly now that you say that, I could. see that. Cuz a lot of people they're. not straight up. I feel in my opinion. that's why that's why I'm more attracted. to people that are real. Like whether. they be a dick or not, as long as you.

show your true color. that are like not the nicest, but. they're so honest that you're just like. lol. Like it's just like. you know what I mean? Like they'll be. like, "Yo, that person da da da da da.". But like instead of like being sneaky. about it and then talking [ __ ] after. like straight up to their face they'll. be like, "Hey, listen. You're da da da. da." It's better than like being like. sneaky and like. Yeah, they're unapologetically. themselves. Like they don't they don't. give a [ __ ] whether you like them or. not. They're going to show you their. true colors. And I feel like those. people that hide their true intentions,

those are the people that are dangerous. Yeah. Cuz you don't know what they're up to. calculating all the time. Yeah, I agree. with that. Those are the mans that will like. manipulate. Those are the mans that will. like, "Okay, I'm doing this for this.". Right? Then it becomes very like. business-minded, you know? It's like, "Okay, this then this then this, right?". Yeah. But if you're just real, if you. just like go with the flow. Mhm. and you show your true color, then. that's to me that's more I like that. character a lot. Yeah. But that's one thing I wanted to. say too is like anime characters. I feel.

like people like just because they're. cartoons they get like a bad rep. Like. people like, "Ew, you watch anime." But. it's like But it now no cuz. Now nobody nobody says that no more. Yeah. But like there's such deeper. meaning behind those characters. Like. even Naruto. There's so There's like. such a deep Like I always like write. down quotes and stuff. Yeah. And that's I'm just bringing it up. because it's a part of inspiring like. being inspired is like through things we. watch and stuff like that. Yeah, that's so true. It's so true. I. think Gavin said it before. Mhm. One of.

the reasons he's so happy-go-lucky Mhm. is because he was inspired by SpongeBob. Oh my gosh. I love SpongeBob. He said. like he's always so happy because he. seen SpongeBob character. He's like, "I. want to be like that." Like this guy. literally gets hurt and he's like, "Ah. ha ha ha." Like Yeah. No matter what. happens, right? He doesn't care. Yeah. I. remember this one episode of SpongeBob. and he got like the splinter. Oh yeah. worse and worse and he'd still be like, "Gotta flip my Krabby Patties." Like and. I was like, "This guy. He's the.

greatest." Like. cuz you know most people would be like, "Oh, like my life's over. Like I can't. Like I'm not doing this." Like any. excuse like you know to get out of. things. But SpongeBob doesn't care. Mhm. He doesn't give a [ __ ]. care. So I could see that. And that's a really good like character. trait too. You can take that mentality. and then like if you're put in a. situation you don't want to be in, let's. say work. Let's say you're at work and. you don't want to [ __ ] do your job. Yeah. If you take on a mindset where it's. like, "Okay, I'm going to have fun. I'm. going to I'm going to do it like this.". So it becomes like a movie. Yeah. Then.

you you change your mindset. It doesn't. feel like work at the end of the day. Yeah. And do you know Do you know those. ones where it's like horrible? Like when. you're so bored at work you're like. counting down the hours. Oh, those are the worst. Oh my gosh. Those are the worst because you're. conscious. Yeah. So like I guess like if. you get inspired by SpongeBob, you can. see it as like I want to wear my hat and. get to work. Like you know what I mean? I think if you really want to get. through if you're ever in a in a really. bad position where you have to do a lot. of work and you don't feel like doing.

it, the best way to get out of that is. called a flow state. You ever heard of. that? No. So a flow state is the perfect. balance of struggle Mhm. and it's easy. So it's it's a perfect balance of hard. and easy. So you're saying like it's okay like. you're saying to get used to struggling? No, no, no. It's It's easy enough to. where you don't mind doing it, but it's. hard enough where it's not too easy. You. don't get bored. So it's still. challenging. So you have fun. Okay. Also, there's a way you can trick your.

brain to just think of work as like an. activity rather than work. Cuz. Yeah, I've I think I've done that like. subconsciously. Like where it's like. tasks are like it's not a negative. thing. It's just like a "Ooh, next is. this. Next is this.". instead of just being like like not. Cuz if you think about it so much, you. put that energy in like "I have to do. work." then it's different instead of. like "I I got to do work now." right? It's a different type of vibe. So, what. I do when I have to clean the washroom. or anything, whenever I have to clean.

the house, I have this playlist and I call it the. cleaning montage, right? See, music? No, it's it's not called a cleaning montage. Yeah, yeah. But it's usually like. like an album. I like you know Young. Nudy? Young Nudy like one album would just get. me through it. Like like just a beat or. something. It like makes me go quicker. or something like that. You know what I. mean? So, my playlist is a bunch of songs. It's not necessarily like the songs I'm.

really into. It's actually just songs. from movies where they have a montage or. something. So, I'd have like the songs. from Guardians of the Galaxy or like. some 80s throwbacks. to say that. It's like movie Well, I. didn't want to say that just just cuz. you said that now I want to say it. But. like soundtracks are literally the most. inspiring things ever. Like soundtracks. like they just Cuz if you're a movie fan. if you're a movie fan and then you put. on that that soundtrack or that song, it. puts you into that scene. You know what. inspires me? Being sad, okay? And.

sometimes if I'm not sad, the way I get. sad is through music. You know what I. mean? So, like one thing that gets me. sad is You purposely get sad? I. purposely For art? Yeah. That's kind of dark sacrifice though. Yeah, I do. Like I listen to like the. Itachi sound like his like soundtrack. Where do you do? Yeah, I do. It's all like despair and. he's all like It sounds like rain and. I'm just like I'm sad. And then you like. inspired from that and you go off. Literally. I'm not advising people to get sad for.

inspiration, but if I'm being honest. that's like literally like heartbreak, anything like that's what inspires me. Yeah. Like if you ever see me like all. of a sudden just being super active, just know I'm probably sad. I'm joking. Not every time. Not every. time. Yo, if if you see if you see her making. hella art, you just got to like. you'll get it. Yeah, just send me good. energy. That's send me some nice energy. Word. Cuz a lot of people like that, even actors. Cuz I think you know Heath.

Ledger, he was the Joker, right? Oh, okay. When he played the Joker, you. know he passed away, right? Yeah, that's. why I was like [ __ ] I didn't remember. his name. Yeah, so he went on this whole. kind of like he did method acting where. he would take on the whole mentality of. that character he was going to portray. And he went on this whole binge of like. going insane. He turned himself insane. because of that character and by the end. of it, he died of like drug abuse. That's why I feel like I can never get. into something like that because I feel. like I want to take the role so much.

Like get attached. That's what I'm. wondering like all these little kids in. like scary movies or horror movies. I'm. like I know it's a movie and I know. they're acting, but like sometimes I'm. like does it affect them? Like does it. scar them? you know the guy that played It, he he. said after he he was done filming that. [ __ ] he would have nightmares of. Pennywise of the clown for like months. Yeah, and I was going to say like even. the kid from Home Alone. Kevin Yeah, yeah, yeah. Macaulay Culkin. Yeah, yeah, like not just Home Alone. Like he's done so many. So, I'm like.

wondering if taking on so many different. personalities and characters just like. messed with him completely. Cuz I feel. like I would. Maybe if you're doing the. same thing every day like say you're on. like Jessie or like Shake It Up. Like. one of those like I feel like it's not. as intense cuz it's just like a not. really an intense role. But people who. play like intense roles of like being. possessed or like any of those things, I'm like I feel like it would mess with. me. Word. But they're professionals too. I feel like they're. how could you say like a little kid? Like yeah, a little kid could be a.

professional. No, that's true. But it's like. We still we have the same body. chemistry. Yeah. Right? It's like the same thing. Like. your mental is like my mental. Like if. you go through this [ __ ] it might. affect you like that, right? Yeah, that's what I wonder like but who knows. All right. So, do you do you look into. like crystals and [ __ ]. That's what I wanted to tell you is I. don't like when you do you talking about. being a medium and stuff? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a medium. I don't know how this. got started. No, but look look look. Cuz. I feel like a lot of people they don't.

know though. That they're mediums? They. don't know. Cuz how do you how do you. prove how do you say like okay, I am? How do you know that? Yeah. Well, I. don't talk like I can't hear them. You. think everybody can be one though? Mhm. That's a real question. That's a real. question. Like No. You don't think like if you train. yourself to be like that? even people with like talents like you. doing this, I don't think it's something. you could train someone. Like if. someone's. You think it's a gift? I want to be a. podcast person. Like I feel like you. could tell them as much as you can, but. it's like you said, it's your. personality and it's who you are. So,

it's not something that like could be. like taught, you know? Word. Okay, okay. Like you can't And like mediums like you. can't like be go to a medium be like I. want to become medium, what do I do? I. feel like it's a gift. I feel like it's. someone has put that in you. Word. Okay, yeah. Or something or. the higher beings. But I was going to. say like I guess that's not it, but I. was going to say like I wanted to bring. like a crystal to like hold just like. for like What crystal? What crystal? It. was a citrine. What does that do? That's. just for like happiness and like chasing.

your dreams and all of that kind of. fluffy Okay, yo, cuz I have I have a. story for you about crystals. Okay. So You have a story for me? This guy's. got all the stories. So, I had like. I think it was called blue apatite and I. had an amethyst right there. This was I. have an amethyst. Yeah, this was. these were in like the past couple. episodes, right? wait, wait. Sorry, when's your birthday? February 8th. a Pisces or I'm Aquarius. Oh, I should. have known that. You're an Aquarius. How do you how do you how do you people.

know this stuff though? I think it's. just personality. I feel like I'm going. to get a lot of hate now. All the people. are going to be like. No, it's it's dope to look into though. But okay, going back to my story. So, I. had these crystals here, right? And I. was kind of in that sense of like okay, I'm curious. Like I want to see about. these things, Yeah, you want to see? Yeah. So, I. bought them. I spent money into it. I. got them. And yo, after a couple weeks, I kind of. felt a wrong type of energy. Like I felt. like it was wrong rather than good.

clear them and stuff? How what do you mean clear them? you get them? I got them online like. eBay. Yeah, see. So, if you got them on. eBay, eBay's usually things that people. have used, right? Like not all the time, but like eBay's like so in crystals, crystals carry energy. So, the previous. owner's energy could have been in the. crystals. And like if they had. whack energy or they were upset or sad. That's how it works. So, you have to. cleanse them. I washed them with water. Yeah, that's a way you can I guess.

cleanse them or something. But you you. can like No, you don't have to do me, but you can just put them like in the. window light. No, I did that though. I. put them in sunlight. I put them in. sunlight. Okay, here's the thing though. Here's the thing. So, blue apatite is. supposed to it's supposed to open your. throat chakra. It's supposed to make you. a better speaker. It's supposed to It. helps a lot with manifestation and it's. very like a motivational one, right? And. I forgot what amethyst does, but I got. that too. remember either. My mom gave it to me. But anyways, I kind of got this sense of.

like it was so overwhelming cuz I feel I. don't know. What did you Did you ever. keep them on you? No, I just had them. here on the table. Big ones? Yeah, huge. Oh, okay. So, here's the thing. I've never had a big big one. So, it was. like handheld. Yeah. Here's the thing. When I got them, I got that sense of. like it's overwhelming and I feel my. energy is already so high, Yeah. it. [ __ ] it up. Okay. You think that's that's a thing? like that's a thing because I feel like. people who have like a lot of energy in. general, that's why like when it comes.

to like I don't know if we're allowed to. talk about these things, but like drugs. and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like weed. about it. Okay, I don't I can't do it a lot or too. much or anything like that because I. feel like it messes with your like your. frequency? your frequency. And if you're. someone who's already very with high. energy, like that just like messes you. up. When you're around people who are. creative, they seem like they're high. sometimes. No, that's I get that all the time. I'm. fully sober. think I'm high. Like. People always think I'm high. And like.

another thing I think is like when. you're around other people Yeah. who are. under the influence, it it messes with. me. Like if I'm sober completely and I'm. around a lot of high people, I start. being like "Ooh, Oh, you get that? I. feel like I'm high. Yeah, I feel like I'm literally high, but I'm. not. Yeah, so. No, I think that's so true cuz for me, I. don't even drink. I don't I don't smoke. I don't drink. I don't drink. I can't. I can't drink, yeah. And people think like oh, he's.

he's such a like I think weird. So, people think oh, he's high. He comes off. like he's fried. Like no. When you go to. like parties and stuff, people are like. yeah, you're high and you're like. I am sober as hell right now. So, I feel that. Go going back to like the the crystals. and [ __ ]. Yeah. I don't think that was for me cuz. I wanted to to try. I wanted to try. I. was so open to doing it. had too much energy from crystals. before. Really? That's a thing? Yeah, I.

feel like it is. I don't know if it's a. thing, but I've definitely like certain. crystals I'm like oh, I can't. Cuz for me, I took them out. I'm like. I'm done. I don't I don't want to. better? Cuz I don't I didn't feel like. myself anymore. That was just weird. I've never had a big crystal. So, I feel. like they held even more energy. Like I. feel like you have to do way more than. just put in the sunlight. Word. Okay, okay. There's also something. called like grounding crystals. So, you. like put them in the dirt cuz they came. from like they're minerals, right? So, they came from like the down like So, you have to do something different. No,

you put them back where they belong. basically. So, you like you like put. them in the dirt and they like absorb. like Have you heard that it's good for. us to like take our shoes off and our. socks and stand in the dirt? yeah. Yeah, so it's like I do that, actually. Do you? I I try to, but I don't have. patience, so I start like fidgeting and. stuff. Mhm. Yo, yo, I have I have a technique. for you. Take your two fingers like. this. Okay. And then touch your sole, like the bottom of your foot. Okay. Right in the middle. Right now? Yeah, right now. Okay. And you're grounded.

You feel that? Yeah, I do feel that. But I'm like is it. cuz you told me that. No, it's like that's a thing. That's Is. it like a pressure point thing? No, I I watched this um this this this. like a hippie guy, right? Yeah. I found him on YouTube. guy. Yeah, yeah, no, like for real. And. he he does like a bunch of meditation. videos. Okay. And he goes really deep into it. And he said this is one way you can. ground yourself without touching the. ground. You ground yourself with. yourself. Ground yourself with yourself. Okay. So. That makes sense. Like you gave yourself. a I need to do it again. Should I put. like a lot of pressure? Just a little.

bit. Do you feel it, though? I do. I get like a tingling feeling, but. in a good way. Mhm. Like a very like. like a set feeling. Like a set So, grounded. I guess set and grounded, yeah. I guess I do feel grounded. I did and I'm like oh [ __ ] it worked. Yeah. Or I heard something that calms me. or if I'm in like a fight with like my. friend or something, something I do I. don't I don't do it to Sophia. Oh, Sophia was watching you. You don't do. that. Cuz she's one of my best friends. But like sometimes like if someone has. like a lot of tension, I always put like.

my finger like where their like third. eye would be, basically. Where? Like I feel like it like calms. them. Like it's like a grounding thing. Yeah, and they're like bro. I'm like the Avatar. Yeah, or like I. pretend I'm just like messing with their. face and then I do it. Like so like so. they don't know it. think, yeah. Yeah, and I feel like they. calm down. But maybe that's just in my. head. But I feel like it works. Yeah, cuz see a lot of this stuff, like. there's not proof, but [ __ ] if you. believe in it, maybe it holds some truth. to it to yourself, at least. Yeah. Yeah, do you believe in like third. eye and everything? Yeah, honestly. I believe in the third. eye. How do you know like I don't know. How.

do you know you don't have a sixth. sense, though? Like how can you tell? Cuz if you can if you can contact spirit. or like if you have these kind of. experiences with spirits? Cuz last night I was on like the phone. and I don't know I was sleeping and then. I woke up and I was like I knew. One. thing that happens to me that's very. like freaks me out a lot and like I have. to understand why. I don't know why it. happens, but I like wake up out of my. sleep and I feel like something's like. shaking me. Like. Oh, [ __ ] Like I feel like something's. like sleep paralysis? I don't know how. to explain it. Like I I am like not.

paralyzed, but like I can't move. Oh, that's sleep paralysis, then. Is it? It happens to me so much and then it. feels like there's things around me on. my bed like moving. Where? Like I feel like people like things not. people, but things around me are moving. on my bed. Like objects? Yeah. No, no, like okay. Like a present? My cat yeah, my cat sleeps with me on my. bed. And that's another thing like you. think animals can see? I think they can. see. so. I heard some stories. I heard some. stories. And I'm like.

mhm. But another thing that my dad One day I. live by like Rouge. Yeah. So, the forest is right behind my. house. And one time I was walking like. back there and this couple like came up. to me and they were like oh, did you. know like um this is like an indigenous. like. Burial ground? Yeah. right here, too. There's a forest right. there. Oh, really? So, yeah, maybe it was just. sleep paralysis, then. Maybe, but it I. don't know, though. Okay, yo, I have I have a story for you. Look, look. Yeah. Cuz going back to with.

my crystals, when I got my crystal I. started having sleep paralysis all the. time. Listen, I started You know what. astral projection is? Yeah. Yo. Yo, so. when I got into the crystal I started. going into like I looked into that [ __ ]. it wasn't a negative thing. Maybe you. just had to learn to control it. Maybe. because you are someone with such high. frequency and people who are like who. have a lot of energy, I feel like. they're like which is why I feel like. it's easier for people like you to. connect with so many people is because. you have a higher conscience and like.

you're hyper sensitive. Mhm. So, like. maybe it was too much for you. Like. maybe someone else who's not aware of. their conscience level or like. spiritualism or whatever would would. like feel it, but it they wouldn't care. Wouldn't affect them. But because you're. so aware, maybe you were like bothered. by it. It It doesn't work for me. No, not that. it doesn't work for you. It's just you. haven't you didn't learn to like. Oh, okay, okay. to like control like what you're feeling. and stuff. Have you ever tried astral. projection before? You know what that. is? Okay, I have a friend who's very. spiritual and he talks about it like all. the time, but I've never like I don't.

think I've experienced it. Never. experienced it. Can you explain to me? So, what it is, it's pretty much it's. going into that kind of sleep paralysis. type of state. Mhm. and then being conscious outside of. your body. So, you know when you're when. you're when you have sleep paralysis, you're stuck. You can't move, right? So. Can you see Can you see yourself kind. of? Not unless you do something. So, the. trick is the trick is if you want to. astral project, you fall into that sleep. paralysis where your your conscious body. sleep. Okay. And then you pretend there's like. a rope in front of you. Okay. And you.

have to Like bring yourself out of your. body. So, take this in. I did it. This. is when I had the crystals here and. [ __ ] too, right? And I was like out of. my body and I started walking around my. room. I went upstairs and I looked. around. But here's the thing, though. Yeah. I don't know if this is. hallucination or I don't know what this. is Okay. because when I did it, everything I saw, it was like real. It. was like real life. It wasn't It wasn't. like a dream You know when you when you. see a dream and then things feel like. kind of blurry? Yeah. Things feel kind. of like It doesn't feel real. Yeah. This.

felt just real. Almost as if I was just. there. I was walking around. So, take. this in. I I did it. I was walking out. and then I saw my dog, but my dog and. then. another dog and another dog and another. Like dogs you are familiar with? No, it's my it's my dog, but like. multiple versions of itself just in the. same I'm like what the [ __ ] is going on? Why is that there, right? It was so. weird. That is weird. And then I walked upstairs. I walked upstairs, yeah. And I saw my. mom, my sister, they're normal. There. was no like multiple of them.

No multiple of them. Just my dog. And. I'm like and then I woke up. I woke up. When I woke up, I did the same path. And. you saw your dog, but just your dog. Yeah, just my dog. I did the exact same. I woke up, I walked around and I did the. exact same path. Like everything's I. looked at my hand like this in in when I. was in astral projection. Yeah. I did that, too. And it was the. exact same. That's weird. Cuz the thing is like when you when How. do you know if you're dreaming or not? You look at your hand and supposedly if. you look at your hand and it looks.

different, then you're probably. dreaming. I looked at my hand and. everything looked the same. know that to look at your hand. Or. you're supposed to have like a You know. what Inception Yeah. like a totem to know if they're dreaming. or not. So, he had like the top. He spun. the top and the if the top kept spinning. he was in the dream. If it dropped, then. he's not in the dream. Not in the dream. I saw That's crazy. because like. before I came here I was like panicking. I was like I don't know what I want to. talk about. Mhm. And like what popped into my head was.

the Matrix. Yeah. Right? And like red pill, blue pill. theory and we studied that theory, but. like in real life, like how it's how it. could be like. what's the word? Put into real life kind. of. Mhm. Like formatted into real life. Like in. my in OCAD. Yeah, yeah. And I saw there. that you have the Matrix. And it's just. weird cuz it's kind of like anything to. do with astral projection or anything. like kind of just like. multiple like things to one view like. kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like Kind of like different dimensions,

different universes, multiverse, right? in one like. Yeah, like in one thing, but you see it. in so many different Mhm. You know what. I mean? Like what's real, what's not. real. So, that's weird. No, I've never. experienced So, maybe it was that, but. I feel like there was another presence. there. You think someone was there for you? you know when like you feel the weight. of someone like getting on the bed if. you're sleeping and someone comes beside. you, but you're sleeping or like. someone's they've gotten onto the bed. Mhm. or like when my cat jumps on the. bed, like I could feel the vibration of. You feel their presence there, right?

Yeah, so I felt like there was like like. three, probably. Like one at my feet and. then two beside me. Yeah. And like I knew there was. something else there, but I couldn't. like do anything cuz like my body felt. like it was shaking, but like not on the. outside, on the inside. Yeah. I don't know how to explain it. Like I. wasn't like physically like No, I know. exactly cuz I had that before. I've had. experiences with um sleep paralysis. before and I thought my mom came into my. room and then like talked touched. touched me talked to me and she walked. out. But she didn't? She was outside gardening. She didn't.

even come into my room. I have sleep paralysis. It was I think I. think what you felt was sleep paralysis. But the thing is sleep paralysis might. be a key to astral project. It might be. like a doorway. Oh, okay. Might be that. gateway. When I was a kid, I would have that a. lot, but I didn't feel the I didn't feel. the three presences. No, huh. I just. felt like the like my body was. Yeah, and I couldn't like get up and it. felt like I was like like kind of like. winding with my like I was like like to. myself. Yeah, yeah. And I couldn't like.

like talk. Like I couldn't like like if. someone like was to like come up to me. and talk to me, I probably wouldn't be. able to talk to them. Yeah. Yo, I get really scared look. looking into a lot of like the crystals. and [ __ ] and a lot of like astral. projection I don't know. because I saw this thing they said this. might be witchcraft and it might be like. satanic [ __ ]. Okay. What do you think about that? That's what I wanted to like Okay, so. there is this thing I was watching like. a video and it was like okay, like. someone that like who's above Mhm. that.

I personally have a deep connection with. is like Mother Mary, which is nice cuz I. went to St. Mary's. Yeah. But like I. like when I pray like I usually pray to. her and like I feel like she's there. Like I feel like she was like holding my. head or something. Like when when I'm. like like praying to her, I feel like. she's like there. like one thing that scared me is that. all over the world they've seen like. like they've taken videos and it's like. when things are going wrong in the. world, Mother Mary statues all over the. world they found had like tears. Oh, I seen that. Yeah. So, I'm like something like they.

were saying like oh, it's Mother Mary. like and then other people and other. like beliefs where that. it was like satanic and it was like. Satan mocking. Woah. And I was like. so like you never know like you know. what I mean? And like someone that I'm. close to had told me too like they were. like praying. Mhm. And whenever they. pray, they feel like they feel like it's. not maybe God and like it's something. else. Yo, I'm going to be honest with you like. I had experiences like that. Okay, cuz I.

don't want to say this too especially. when there's like bad things happening. Maybe it's just like in my head, but. when I'm praying Mhm. I get like an. eerie feeling and I'm like. Sometimes, yeah. is it cuz of like my guilt? Am I afraid. to talk to Jesus? Like is it guilt that. I don't want to talk? Like why am I. afraid right now? Yo, you want to know. what I tell you? Yeah. It stopped after. I took the crystals and [ __ ] out. Really? It stopped after like I was like. [ __ ] all this isn't for me. Like That. isn't I shouldn't be doing this.

is is I only have good experiences. Yeah. Like when I hold them, like when I. have them, I never feel that way. And. another thing is crystals I've only. gotten into them it's been like a year. Word. But I've had this experience like way. past. Mhm. Yeah, like I have good experiences. with crystals, but I'm saying like way. past that like of the experiences of. like praying and feeling like a bad. feeling was way before I had the. crystals. Mhm. Oh, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of these things I told. you was like I didn't have crystals. that before. No, I didn't have the. crystals at the time. So, I'm saying.

like for me I don't think it's. connecting to crystals. Word. Okay, okay. But I thought I was the only. person besides that person that I talked. to like who told me like when they're. praying they've gotten like a bad. Nah, yo. Not even like two nights ago. Mhm. I was praying and then it felt like. Something was. praying to the wrong thing right now? Cuz I felt like I was praying. So, why? it was like going to the wrong part. So, why do we get that? I don't know. I. don't know. Because I do believe I believe like. obviously I believe in heaven, I believe.

in Jesus, God. Another thing is like. people have a hard time understanding. who God really is. Jesus people feel easier to understand. Jesus. Oh, that's. But it's like God like when I was a kid, I remember like being unfaithful and. like crying because I was like it. doesn't make sense like who is God? Like. Mhm. It's confusing like Joseph, God, what is like I realized like I. understand like God conceived a child in. Mary and then Joseph is like the father, but he's not the so it's just confusing. Like you're like God has always been.

like such a mystery. Like you're That's. that's interesting cuz for me, I always. prayed to God just the father. Yeah, like when I would say like the Our. Father, I just felt like I wasn't there. Like it was just like I'm just saying. it, but when I say like the Hail Mary, I'm like. Word. Interesting. I'm feeling it more, you Yeah. I feel like Mary is more like. easier to like connect to and she's more. understanding. Yeah. Whereas I don't. know like okay, as much as I believe in. good and Mary and I also believe in bad.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you have to cuz if you. believe in the good and the higher. powers of the good. believe in then there is the evil side. to it, right? Yeah. So, I'm wondering. like there was a movie I watched. recently. Mhm. It's just at the sea. It. was talking about like basically the. angel was kind of bad. The whole thing. about Angel Gabriel like all of that is. just so confusing. Like the like the. the devil is actually was an angel like. a fallen angel. So, all of that confuses. me. Like I'm just like.

What? Yeah. And how do you. I hate like thinking about it, but. how do you know the devil like didn't. get a hold of you? Yeah. Would you would you not know? Would you. know? No? I feel like I would know. But my I feel. like my my worst fears like besides. getting like kidnapped and like failure. and all of that is like being like. possessed. Being possessed? It's like my worst. I don't think I can ever be possessed. I. don't know. Knock on some wood. Yeah. But I don't know. Like that's my.

worst fear of is like. can't be open to it, you know? I think. that's the only way if you're open to. it. Open to I think no, for me it's like. people who it's like always like women. or men who are very spiritual or like. they're very religious. Mhm. Like it's. always like a girl who's like praying. all the time or something. Yeah, oh, I see. That scares me cuz I'm. like I pray a lot. That's. That scares me. Like it's always like. people who are like martyrs or like so.

like devoted to their religion which I. wouldn't say I'm the most like I did not. go to church every Sunday. So, you think. that that puts you as a target? Yeah, I feel like the devil's like mhm, a challenge. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. Cuz I I see it as like. the ones that don't believe or the ones. that fall victim to let's say money, to. greed are the ones that got caught. No. The ones that don't necessarily like. okay, you mean like in general? Okay, I.

mean like legit possessed. Oh, yeah. I. mean like when you're like possessed. possessed like. like eyes back and [ __ ]. Yeah, cuz you said you had a cousin, right? yeah. Yeah, I've like like a family. friend aunt Possessed? who was possessed. or something. Damn, what happened? I. don't know the details, but like she. would like she was possessed. So, like. that's enough for me to believe Was this. here in Canada? Yeah, in Canada. What? Yeah. Wait, you were born here, right? Where. your parents from? Yeah, I was born Sri. Lanka, yeah. Damn. Mhm. And she was.

possessed here? Mhm. That's good. I hate. hearing those stories when it's here cuz. when it's like in like the. back when it's back home there and there. You're like I'm far from there. Yeah. I. feel the same. Cuz sketch [ __ ] happens like in those. countries all the time. Yeah, and. another thing that I wanted to talk. about too was like my cousin like when. he was young, he was like going to die. from like pneumonia and all these. things. He's older than me, but like. when he was little, like he was.

literally going to die. Like there was. obviously complications. It wasn't just. pneumonia. And he was like throwing up. blood and nosebleeds all the time. Like. just too much. Like projectile. Like. they took him to I think a place in. France. Mhm. It was like like a known. church or something like that. Oh, is it the one with the water? One. with the water and you hear so many. miracle stories from there with the. white statue of Mother Mary. Yeah, I heard of that. Yeah, I don't know what it's called. Mhm. But basically my cousin went there. when he was little cuz my aunt and uncle. had they were like there's nothing else.

we can do. Like he's he's going to pass. Yeah. And they took him there and like. in our language I think mom means like. ama something like that. Ama means ama. So, basically like he went up to his mom. with like a white box and like he went. up to her and he was like oh, like ama. gave me this cuz Mother Mary is also. mom. Like that's how we see her. He's. like yeah, like like Mother Mary gave. this to me basically. the box out of nowhere. And he was like. four, yeah. The box came out of nowhere. and then he was cured. What? What was in. the box? Nothing. It was just an empty box?

Yeah, just an empty box. Yo. you you hear a lot of miracle stories. about that place. Especially in yeah, especially in that in that place, yeah. When you hear these stories then it's. like it it's proof, you know? And yeah, it makes me believe like. there's good and there's bad. You know. what I mean? And even my experience of. like babysitting and this and that like. it's definitely strange. Yeah. Like. there is bad, too. Mhm. That's why you. got to be careful like what you fall. into. And that's also what I want to. talk about is like reincarnation is like. I guess if you are that bad of a person.

or not a good person, I guess you don't. get reincarnated. Yeah. they're just like you're too like you're. out of here. You don't get another. chance. Mhm. So, but I'm wondering how. many times does it take for that to. happen? We'll never know though. That's. the thing. It it could have been. thousands of years. It could have been. five. Yeah. You don't know, right? You. don't know how many lifetimes like Okay, you believe you believe that your soul. has been through many different. lifetimes? Yeah. Do you believe in. soulmates? Yo, that's tough. I don't I. don't know. I don't know about.

soulmates, but I feel like people for. sure that were meant to be in your life. Okay. So, do you feel like me and my. aunt were talking about this where it's. like when you were created Mhm. you're. created in a group. So, like my yeah, my. aunt was saying like okay, well you and. I are created in the same group because. I'm your aunt, you're my niece. Yeah. We're from the same, you know. Family. Not even just family. Like like. even a partner, significant other can be. like made in that group. Like in that. bubble Mhm. because you find them when. you come here. Yeah. You know what I. mean? It doesn't matter the age.

difference. Like even if it's your. grandpa, like you're still in the same. bubble. It's not like you were legit. created at the same time. Mhm. It's just. like when he was creating like your. spirit. of like the same mixing pot. Yeah, the. same mixing pot literally. Cuz you find. like people you're closest to like. you're very similar so in some way which. is why you get along. is true, yeah. Yeah. So, like oh, no. I'm just thinking like a soulmate is it. someone that you've lived past lives. with? Mhm. Like you know what I mean? Like you. find a way to be with that person again. Again. And like something must have gone.

wrong for you guys to be back again. You're back here on Earth again. No, cuz that makes sense cuz if you guys. are back together again, that means you. didn't get it right. Yeah, you didn't get it right. So, you. have to fix it. Oh, [ __ ]. Yeah. That's crazy. I never thought. about it like that. That's what I yeah, I I believe that. So, you think there's somebody out there. that Okay, if you say soulmate as a. lover or as like just somebody you're. supposed to meet. I think both. Both. Mhm. It's a lover. and lovers are friends. I love my. friends. I wouldn't call them lovers.

Like Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like family, they're lovers. They're like I love. them. They love me, you know. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like they all goes. under the same boat. You know what I. mean? So, I feel like like I just feel. like those are your people. Like I call. my friends soulmates. Word. Like. obviously there's your your most. prominent which is your partner. soulmate, but like your friends like I. feel like they're meant to be there. Like if they're friends that obviously. you've been with for so long. Like you. know, Gavin's probably a soulmate to. you. I don't cuz see I don't know I. don't know what soulmate is to me. I.

don't know what that means to me for me. And obviously what it means to me is not. the. Is different, right? Yeah, yeah, cuz I. don't know if I believe in like there's. that there's that person there and. that's the one. I don't I don't know if. I believe in that. So would would you say you believe in. multiple partners? Like multiple. soulmates? know if I even believe in that. I just. believe in that this is like my story. The people that show up were meant to. come into that time at that act. So like. a next chapter. I feel like someone who's meant to be. would be like your soul's mate. You know what I mean? Cuz they're meant. to be. So they're mates with your soul.

because they're supposed to be there. Yeah, interesting. And your souls belong together. But. who's to say? Okay, let's say you meet. your soulmate. Who's to say you think. that and then they're not? Or who's to. say like let's say they pass away or. they they do something ill to you. Like. wrong to you? Yeah. Like how wrong? They they show you something that makes. you think, "Okay, they're not you're not. soulmates.". Like they've hurt you? Yeah. I feel like. that's a part of like. It's part of the journey then. It's part. of the story. to hurt you. Like I'm not going saying like the.

beyond and being like, "Yeah, you're my. soulmate killed my mom, but like that. was supposed to happen. We're. soulmates." Like okay, there's there's. moderation. Everything's in moderation, right? So like there's things that are. obviously not okay, but like I feel like. soulmates are not just the perfect. candidate to be your. you don't think it's not the perfect. puzzle piece then. That's what I cuz in. my head that's what it is. Like So you. think like there should be no argue when. you find your if you believe in a. soulmate. saying. I don't know if I believe in. that. Yeah. Okay, no. I I believe that.

you can get into things with your. soulmate. They can hurt you. You can. hurt them. Mhm. But like I feel like God. will keep putting or like the creator. will keep putting you on in the world. till you both can figure out like yeah, get through all the pain, get through. like what you've done to each other. Interesting, yeah. Like a level of like such happiness. Like and I think that's a part of also. like conditioning and like your. environment as a kid growing up. It's. like a lot of kids don't believe in it. cuz maybe they didn't see it at home or.

they didn't see it like with their. parents or whoever. So like you're just. like. like it's not like no. But I feel like. another thing like this is like such a. big special. good. This is good. is like I believe. that. you know how some people are just born. with like mental illness sometimes. without going through trauma or. anything. Like it's like someone will be depressed. and Sometimes it's even hereditary. Yeah, it is. Like genetics and. everything. But what I believe is like. your whatever your parents hold in them,

they pass down to you like when you were. Yeah. Like whatever like illnesses or. like things they never fixed or like say. they have like problems with their. family or they went through a lot or. they're having like they have trauma and. stuff like that. I feel like it just. gets passed on to their offspring if it. was never dealt with or they never fixed. it. Oh, but that is so true too in the sense. of if that environment they're in, the. environment they grew up in is that. energy Yeah, not even grown up. Not even grown up like when you're in.

your like mom Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when you're like being like you. know, like created in there and like. when you're like growing in there. Like. say your mom, that's why it's like. people say it's so important for the mom. not to be stressed out. Word. pregnant person not to be like. stressed out because like you can like. have an effect on the kid. your baby. You can damage your child. So. it's like it's important. Like yeah. So. like it's I feel like that's I can't. even remember like the primary thought. of all this conversation.

I can't even remember either. Yeah, I. don't know why where we. where we got to all this, but um yeah. All right, let's bring it to a like a. happy topic before we cut it off stuff. Okay. I got to bring up the mood, feel. me? Yeah. Oh, I have something to say. Okay, what do you want to say? It's so funny. like being on like the podcast. Yeah. Podcast is just literally like a. hangout. It is. That's all it is. Yeah. And like just talking to you like. through this thing is so weird cuz the. like the conversation seems so much more. deep and intimate because like it's like.

a different you know what I mean? Cuz you hear it like this? it like this. It's just like woah. Like. No, you know what? It feels like it's. almost of a kind of like a ritual. You know what I mean? I don't know how. to how to explain it like a like a cere. like you share. Yeah. Like I share story, you share story. Yeah. And it it's it's honestly. thought on thought. Like you're like. you're merging thoughts. You know what I. mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I really. like podcasting is cuz you get to. connect on that level of okay, let's see. how deep I can like reach into their.

brain. What kind of experiences can I. pull out from them? From other people. And that's the same when it comes to. doing art. Mhm. It's like someone told me, I can't. remember. You don't when you do art. Yeah. you don't want It could have been Miss. McDavid. But you don't want the viewer. or like the person looking at your art. Mhm. to like like to know what your. art's saying. Like you don't want it to. be like cut to the chase. Like you want. them to think and connect themselves on. how they could relate to it. Yeah, you want them to create their own. message for themselves. piece should always be a question. Word.

Even your podcast like you know, it's. just like. No, that's true cuz I don't want it just. give it as is. Mhm. Cuz that's the way I look at. things. Cuz I feel like a lot of people. they they don't watch it the same way as. others, right? Like when I read a book, when I look at a movie, anything, a. piece of art, I look kind of as what was. their thinking behind it rather than. what they're just showing me straight. up. I'm looking at, "Okay, he's showing. me this because he might have felt this. way." So this might transport into this. type of emotion. Yeah.

Right? Yeah, and like you can like I can. create something being angry and someone. else might look at it and be like, "Oh, this makes me happy. Like I'm getting. like happy vibes from this." Or like sad. or something. And that's what I wanted. to say like about your podcast is I. noticed like you never like say like as. it is. Like you never you never make. statements. No. leave each conversation as a question. Like you're always like, "Hmm, I don't. know." And like you like. you know what I mean? Like kind of like. leaving it at your viewers like what do. you guys That's what makes it. interesting is when you think for.

yourself. And that's kind of like the. movement I kind of want to bring is just. think about it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Don't stay close-minded cuz. I feel like those close-minded people, they see an opinion from somebody. Even. if it's an opinion that they. it doesn't like sit well with them. Yeah. Like at least give it a chance and. try to see where they're coming from. Yeah. what I mean? Yeah. Cuz don't just like. just block it off cuz that's like I. that's kind of like my pet peeve. When. some when somebody has an argument with. me or like a conversation with me and. they say a statement and they don't want.

to change their mind about. They're very. stubborn. mine too. That's mine too cuz I always. my problem is not being understood. So I. always try my best to understand other. people. Mhm. So I always try to like somewhat see it. from their side. Like even if it takes. me a while cuz I can be stubborn. I'm. still like, "Okay, like I could see why. you see it that way." Mhm. But when. people are just like, "Nope. Nope. Like. you're wrong. Like no." I'm just like. Yeah. "You're wrong." Like you know what. I mean? then you don't get anywhere with that. And then there's no growth with it. Cuz. I'm all about like we got to grow. You.

know what I mean? Yeah, and you're very. like I noticed that like you're educated. in a lot of things probably because like. you're so open to other people's like. ideas and information. You know what I. mean? Cuz I think that's kind of like a. superpower. Like if if you want the I. think the best superpower in the world. is being able to just be open to. everything or just wanting to learn. The. will to learn. Like. Yeah. if I want to learn let's say. surfing. I want to learn freaking. biomechanics. You know what I mean? And. you're right. That would be the best. superpower because it's just literally.

like success. That's all it is. Like. because you're so willing and you're so. like I'm going to like do this and this. and that. It's just success. Yeah. Mhm. Cuz then you're not you're never in a. position where, "Okay, this feels like. work." Like you're you're you're having. fun. And I think as long as you're. having fun, you're winning. That's it. Just have fun. Okay, one more thing I. want to say is about like. like you know when people say they. create something or like they make a. painting. Like this is my first thought. when you said the Mona Lisa thing. I. thought this is what you were going to. say, but like when people say like the.

eyes of paintings like follow you. Yeah. Like you feel like they're like. following you or like when you look at. them, it looks like their eyes are. moving. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. But. like that was just a side note that cuz. you were like, you know Oh, that's it. Yeah, that's what I just wanted to say. cuz I'm like it creeps me out. I feel like like when when you go into. like a art gallery and then you see like. the faces. But that's with pictures, too. Yeah. Just just like. photographs and [ __ ]. yeah. But I don't think as much as I. don't think as much as like I'm looking. at Michael Jordan and I'm like, "Nah, he's not really following me." Yeah,

yeah, yeah. But I don't know. Like. What if they what if it only happens. when there's an intention for it? That's what I'm saying. Like if there's. a meaning behind the portrait or behind. the person in the piece. I'm like, you. know, like is there like you know what. I'm trying to say? Yeah, I know what you mean. Like there's one painting I have in my. room that I made when I was really. really sad. Yeah. So sad. And whenever I like see. that painting. You get sad? Not that I get sad. It. looks like that person like the painting. is crying, but the person's not at all. Like it's just a very stark face. Like.

they're just like that. Yeah. But I'm like they look like. they're crying and it makes me sad. Like. it looks like I can see them literally. crying in the painting. Word. You know what I mean? But the eyes. are not moving, but that's what I mean. Like in my my head, it's moving. Like. they're. Yeah, yeah. You get your own kind of. like So I wonder yeah, when other people. like view things or look at things. Like. do they get that vibe from what you put. into it or is it always just opinionated. from themselves? Word. Okay, we'll end it off on one more. thing. Okay. What's Sasha's like message to the. world? What's her goal? What does she.

want seen? Um. Whether it be through your art, whether. it be just something you want to say. right now. Like what do you want to tell. the world? Honestly, it's the most basic thing, but. it's just I want everyone to love. without it hurting their own ego. Mhm. Like even for me. like I'll look at like. an Instagram model or like just. influencers and I'm like, oh, like she's. so pretty and like my initial thought is. always like, oh, why can't I be like. that pretty? Or like it's always. insecurity. Like it's never like, oh,

that person's pretty, like good for. them. It's always like, oh, why can't I. be that pretty? Like. [ __ ] with your mindset. always like and obviously that person's. succeeding and they're happy. So instead. of like just us being like happy for. people, it's always like I'm not saying. like it's a bad thing and I'm just like, oh, damn, like I'm not angry at the. influencer. I'm not the type to like be. like, you're ugly in the comments like. because I'm insecure, but it's like I. just want to be like like happy about. it. You want to change their. perspective. And I want to change like. social media like in the sense of like.

it's literally like when you go on Tik. Tok or Instagram, people literally get. off of it so drained. Yeah. just like, I'm not cute or I'm a failure. or I'm not doing this right. Cuz they think it's a competition, that's why. usually all you see is like them on. vacation, them with their Rolls-Royce, with their. chains, like everything else and you're. just like, oh, like I'm poor or like. you're thinking like negatively like, oh, I want to be in Jamaica right now, but it's like you have that power as an. influencer, like you can show them like. it's not all about the money and that,

yeah. Like just being so simple, like. being in your room filming, you know. what I mean? Like it's a cozy space. Yeah. But like you know what I mean? Yeah, you got to change your. perspective. Like you said, it's it's. literally pick your character. You. always have the chance. You cuz you. create your own, right? You create your. own story and then if you fall into. like, I want to be like them, Mhm. then. it's no longer your own story. It's. trying to replicate their story. Mhm. So. that's when it gets twisted, right? And. you can't look at it like that. You got. to look at it like, okay, I see the.

good. I'll see that. I'mma use it as. fuel, as motivation, Yeah. rather than an end goal, cuz that's not. my end goal. That's just a motivation. where I might end up, you know? this is one more thing is like I guess. my like thing would be is always is like. look at the bigger picture. When it. comes to anything, even self-confidence. Like I'd always look in the mirror and. focus on like the thing I hate the most. about myself and what helped me like. obviously I'm not like the best best me. yet, Yeah. but what helps me is to look at myself.

as a whole. Word. Like my heart, my spirit, like what I. have to offer in that way, like. Mhm, that's so important. Yeah, instead of just being like, I hate. my my unibrow or something like that, you know what I mean? much to you. It's not just one part. Like there's so much layers you can look. at. It's all like a collection of. things. It's not just one. Yeah. And. then if you look at it like that. instead, when you're feeling shitty. about one thing, focus on like one collection. Yeah, there's so many other things you. can think about. Yeah, and the bigger pictures. Don't let.

one thing throw throw off your whole. [ __ ] mood, right? what I would say. Like yeah, I feel like. don't let your like self-image like take. you down because nobody really cares. Like not to sound like rude, but nobody. cares Yeah. what's on the outside, you know what I. mean? Like yes, judgment like is a. thing, like you know what I mean? Like. looking at someone and being like, they. dress nice. Like you know what I mean? That's a thing, but like whenever you. actually take the layers off and get to. know like who's on the inside is like. really honestly what people care about.

Yeah, that that's what holds longevity. Yeah, like you can be with this. beautiful model, but if she's like mean, you're not going to want to be with her, you know what I mean? Like you can't. Like maybe she's pretty to look at, but. then like soon as she opens her mouth, you're like, why am I here? Yeah, how long does that last, right? Yeah, so it's really cuz I was really. afraid to like come on this podcast. I. was like, I'm going to get. I I think I'm looking at your viewers. more as like not like just people who. are like. No, they're here cuz they want to. listen. they're present. Yeah, so please don't.

bully me, guys. Please, I'm begging you. We're not going to bully you. You're. good. Okay. But yeah, thank you so much for. coming through, Sasha. So glad you came. through. Yeah. All right, you have any announcements. you want to give out? Follow you on. Instagram, your article, right? have an article if you guys want to. check it out. It's Sasha Grace with two. S's in the beginning. I I'll link you down in the bio and. yeah, if you haven't checked out my vlog. channel, go check it out. Link in bio, too. All I can think of is like, subscribe to. his. Like you know when you watch those. people and like I'm like, yes,

subscribe, subscribe, like, comment, share. Yeah, all that good [ __ ] and yeah, thank you. Jumpers jump out.