PSYCHOPATH BEHAVIOUR, THE LOST BOYS UNSOLVED MYSTERY & INTROVERT VS EXTROVERTS - JUMPERS JUMP EP. 67

Like I said, I was about to expose. Expose what? You You ready? Yeah. Cuz I think. Did one episode did we Did we talk about. you how you might become like a crazy. person? Like what was it called? Was it. a serial killer or like a crazy person? No, remember you. Oh, like a psycho sociopath? yeah, sociopath. I'm not going to. relax. First of all, that's this.

I gave you a foreshadow. Before we. record I said I'm about to expose. Carl. was like, "What?". Okay, woah, woah, woah, let me hear it. So, you're you're very impulsive, right? Yeah, actually, yeah. You're very. impulsive. I'm No, but I'm very spontaneous. That's. what I am. exactly. That's exactly. That's the the same as impulsive? Yeah. And you're very um what do you. call this? You get bored really quick. Oh, yeah, I get bored quick. Yeah, and so. what's another thing? Uh you listen to. rock, right? Yeah, I do. Why?

What what what does it have to do? No, no, and and you you [ __ ] with. Wendy's, McDonald's, and KFC? You [ __ ]. with those? I mean, not anymore. Cuz my. New Year's resolution is not to eat. Okay, but you did But you would eat it. though, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah, okay, so you are you have. characteristics of a serial killer. Shut. up. No, swear to you. Swear to you. So there it's like it's like on a list. of a study type thing? yeah, so there's been studies, right? Where. scientists have found that there are. many things that all serial killers have. in common. Like what? Like what?

like I said, so serial killers are very. irresponsible. I wouldn't consider you. irresponsible. Yeah, but you're very. spontaneous. And what what made me laugh. is you get bored too quick cuz you. actually do. Yeah. Like you're you're. going from from hobby to hobby, right? And why serial killers are so like they. get bored really quick is cuz they need. adrenaline to excite them all the time. Oh, it's it's like hacking the dopamine. type of thing. exactly. That makes sense because I. think I think those serial killers I'm. I'm not saying I'm I'm not a serial.

killer. First of all, I don't have. serial killer tendencies. This is just a. theory. Yeah. But I could see where you get. bored in something and then you take it. to an extreme. Why? And I think that's. why people fall into like really bad. [ __ ] like for example, gambling. Oh, yeah, that. Right? That's a that's a what do you. call it? Rabbit hole? Yeah, it's all. it's all a rabbit hole. It's literally. all a rabbit hole. That's why they say. weed is like a gateway drug. Yeah. Because it's all a rabbit hole. Like. once you get a taste for something, that. little dopamine you don't know how it's. going to affect somebody whether they're.

going to take it to extreme. Depending. on their personality, they could be very. very responsible with it or they could. be just like All right, [ __ ] it. I want. to do something. I want to do something. And that's where it gets dangerous, bro. I know. One one of my friends told me. because he was he was really big on he. wanted to try weed. Yeah. And then he said, "Thank God I had a. really bad like trip my first time I. smoked it, so I wouldn't ever do it. again. I didn't want to do it again.". That's what he told me and I was like, "Fuck, bro." Who knows cuz maybe that's. that's what's best for him, right? Cuz I. think This is what I think. I think.

people that hop from hobby to hobby to. hobby so quickly. it's it's kind of a sense of like I need. a I need to find something to fill. The. the void? Yeah, fill the void. That you. could take it as like a dark thing. You. could take it as a happy thing cuz. there's a good side to it is like you're. you're you're taking part in so many. different things. You get to experience. a lot of things, but then it's like can. one thing really ever hold it down? Yeah. Oh, but there's a saying where. it's like would you rather be really. good at a lot of No, no, really mediocre.

at a lot of things or really good at one. thing? And that's kind of like that's. kind of like the hobbies. Would you. rather have a lot of hobbies or. something you're really just passionate. about that makes you happy? So do you believe in the. jack-of-all-trades thing? Uh Cuz people called me that before and. I don't agree with it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't [ __ ] with it. either. Because I think you can be a pro. in many things. You can be a pro in many. things or at least very good at a lot of. things. Cuz jack-of-all-trades it's like. That You know, you have an arsenal. Yeah, it's a good thing, but it can be a.

bad thing at the same time. It's like. you're just not good at that one thing. cuz I remember there was an artist. Yeah. who was just really good at art. and he flourished, right? But you can. see you can have a person that's really. good at [ __ ] drawing. movies, but he he doesn't make a career. for himself just cuz he's focused on too. many different things. Mhm. You know, that's where it gets. confusing. Okay, but I think this is my. argument to it cuz I [ __ ] hate when. people say, "Oh, jack-of-all-trades, oh, you're not a master of anything." Fam, I'm pretty sure the person that made. that [ __ ] up What's your name?

They're just jealous. They're literally. just jealous of like, "Oh, he can do all. of these things, but but you don't have. a degree in this. You don't you don't you don't have a you. don't have a pro in this. You don't have. a black belt in this, right? It's like I. think the people that came up with that. theory or at least that saying were. like, "Oh, I put all of my time into. this, but he's still cooler cuz he can. do so many other things." Cuz in my. opinion, would you rather have would you. rather have a crayon case with like 64. colors or just three? That's kind of.

different. How's that different? How's. that different? I thought you were going. to say only one. I thought you were. going to say one. Yeah, like three. Okay. You want to have 64, right? Yeah. You want to have 64, fam. You want the. whole big ass Crayola like 64 pack. You. don't want the tiny thing. Yeah. You get. me? And it's not a thing of like, "Oh, you're you're a master. You're a. master.". Sure you're a master, but who who's to. say like he can't be a master in a lot. of other things, right? If if he puts. his time into it, maybe next month he's. a master now. Yeah.

Next month he's a master in something. else now. That's true. Do you think a. jack-of-all-trades gets frustrated just. cuz he has so many options of where to. go? Cuz that could be a problem, too. Maybe that's why. Nah. Oh, at least for. me. Okay. So so I'm Let's say I'm a. jack-of-all-trades, right? I'm speaking. the jack-of-all-trades out there. For. me, it's almost like there's too much. there's too much, but I'm excited to do. a lot. You get me? So it's not like it's. never a I don't know what's for me cuz I. love everything. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. But. would you say would you say that's a.

disadvantage where you don't fall in. love with something? That's what. That's what I was trying to get to cuz. like I said, the artist he fell in love. with that one passion. His whole life is. based on that. Like you know. who's the boxer? The [ __ ] the guy who. took down Deontay Wilder? Oh, Tyson. Fury. Tyson Fury. His life he said was devoted. just to boxing and he's so happy right. now and he he he wouldn't change it for. the for the world. Just cuz he trained. all his life, didn't have fun, but that. was his passion. One thing. Yeah, okay,

I agree I agree. It's an amazing thing. and everybody's different. Who knows? What if What if one thing is set for you. for life and you're happy with that? Good, right? But in my opinion, just. from what I see, I'm not saying. everybody's like this. Dog, a lot of. people change their minds. Yeah, I know. A lot of people change. their minds and and it's fine. It's fine. to change your mind. And I think what. happens is when people have this. preconception of themselves or they they. come up with an idea of themselves that, "Okay, I'm a swimmer. That's who I am. I'm a swimmer." And then you fall out of.

love with swimming, then you feel like. you don't know who you are anymore. You. get me? And I think a lot of people they. go through that like. midlife crisis. Yeah. That's why that's why I kind of. say it's like a blessing when you. finally find your passion. It's like. finding the right program in university. You're like, "Yes, I like this one. finally after four tries." Right? It's a. blessing to finally find that, but it's. really hard to get to know where your. passions are. Like where your passions. are, you know? I think I think what it takes is just. trying though cuz look look look.

If if you were just a master one and. then from birth, let's say you were a. soccer star. Yeah, yeah. Right? And then you never. got to try any other sports. Then it's kind of unfair to to say like, "Oh, I couldn't have been a basketball. player. Oh, I couldn't have been like a. boxer." You know? It's only until you. try things and you get to realize [ __ ]. I know. The the jack-of-all-trades kind. of has the same characteristics as like. a genius cuz geniuses they move they. have so many ideas running around their. head at the same time. They're always. switching. Mhm. They're always. switching. Yeah, I know.

when I went to Jet's Shout out Jet one. time. When I went to his art gallery, right? And he had like his presentation. there. I was talking to a lot of the. creatives and one question came up to to. my boy Remsen. Shout out Remsen. Somebody asked him was like, "Okay, you're rapping. How do you manage it. with school? How do you manage it with. school and how does working or how does. doing homework as an engineer student. reflect on your rap career or reflect on. your art? Right? How does that. translate? Cuz look, let's say let's say.

I'm a I'm a boxer, but I love anime. Okay. So a lot of my moves I might take. inspiration from animes, right? Now take. it to a way crazier level, two things. that don't even intersect. Yeah, like me and a accounting and. podcasting. There you go. So how does how does. something like that, let's say working. as an accountant or doing accounting. homework translate to podcasting or your. art? and I'll tell you. So I think the reason. why it mixes per kind of perfectly even. though on paper it doesn't seem like. that that would never work, right? So.

accountants are usually at their desk by. themselves all the time. Right? Just doing just doing work. sounds boring, bro. doing work, right? Yeah. This gives me the opportunity to to. finally get out that box and just talk. to someone. Oh. You know, and express. cuz we're not talking to people we're. talking to people on the phone on email. So I finally get a chance to to talk. And you know me, I'm an extrovert. Actually, no, I'm not an extrovert. I'm. an ambivert. So I can be introverted cuz.

I [ __ ] with just being by myself in my. room, but I can be extroverted. Like I. can just control the room whenever I. want. So so this just gives me. opportunity to just talk cuz it's so. boring. So it's kind of like. it's kind of like your superhero at. night time. Yeah, no, that's exactly it. Cuz whenever anyone DMs me, he's like, "Yo, you're really into fashion. Are you. into in design school?" Mhm. And they're all like, "What the [ __ ]. Why does that tend out?" But I remember. telling my dad when I was small and I. kind of manifested this. I said during.

the during the day I'll have. regular job, but during the night I'll. have my passions that no one will know. that I do. And that so it's accounting. I put on the the Superman and go into. creative podcast Gavin. That's cool. That's cool though. living my Miley Cyrus life. Yeah. Okay. Do you think Do you think personally you. would ever find a way to leave. everything from behind if you didn't. like it and start a new life? Oh, [ __ ]. That's a deep question.

So let's say let's say. don't have the same passions. Yeah, let's say one day you wake up um. and going back to what we said, somebody. somebody that was so stuck on one thing. they they came up with this idea of who. Gavin is or who Carlos is, who this. person is, who they are. Now one day. they wake up and they realize do I even. like this stuff? Do I Do I even like who. I am? Blah blah blah. Yeah. Would you. Would you think Would you find a way to. escape and start a new life? think I could. You don't think you.

could? too It's too rooted. It's like you know. when the tree it's like rooted to the. ground and when you take that tree out. the roots come with you. You feel me? You can't do that. Would you? It depends. cuz cuz going back to to what I was. talking about before, like I do get. bored fam. I do get bored. And what's. good about podcasting is like there's a. lot of [ __ ] we can talk about. So I. won't get as bored, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying like maybe one day I'll. I'll I'll be like [ __ ] do I want to. play golf? You know I'm I'm not saying I. I don't play golf, but one day I come up.

with something different like Mandy, do. I want to do this? Yeah, okay. Right? And would you want to leave what. you have if you're not unhappy? Like. within an instant moment like that. Oh, if I'm unhappy? Yeah. But I think it would be hard. Yeah, it would be very hard. Yeah, cuz I'm saying if I I put so much. time in my clothes and [ __ ]. researching for the podcast and you're. just going to tell me nah nah, let's. just not do it no more. Oh, no that's. like No, it has to be right timing. Yeah. to be right timing. you said the like a one day. Oh yeah,

you know what though? Knowing me there's. never like a right timing. It's like so spontaneous like you said, spontaneous. That [ __ ] there's there's. no like right timing fam. Yeah, exactly. There has to be people that like. disappeared and and started like a new. life and nobody knew about. Oh, I I. swear I've heard stories about that. Yeah, so I I heard a story before. This. is a local story. Okay. So this is called the lost boys of. Pickering. Oh, that's a song? Yo yo. listen, listen. No. This is this is a. true unsolved mystery. Nobody knows what.

happened to these six boys that. disappeared forever. Okay. So what. happened was these boys, I think they. were in grade Wait, 17 to 18. That's. around like first year university grade. 12, right? High school? Yeah, that that should be around there. 12 high 12 freshman year. So I believe. it was a high school party and these six. boys were at a high school party, right? And they were getting drunk, they were. getting turned, whatever. And one of. them had the idea, yo let let's kick it. by the marina. You know the Pickering. marina? What? Yes. The Liverpool marina,

right? Yes, bro. So they're like, all right, let's go let's go. So they're [ __ ]. around, they're doing their thing, right? Shenanigans shenanigans. And I guess one of them had an idea to. hop on one of the boats. No. So what. happened was the next day Yeah. it was. reported that a boat was missing and. like one of those paddle tricycles were. missing also. Okay. Now they didn't know. where these boys went. Had no idea. Six of them. Six of them. Okay. There.

was no sign of wreckage. There's no sign. of the boat. They couldn't find it. They. couldn't find the tricycle paddle boat. and they couldn't find anybody. Okay. Right? Time goes by time goes by. They're all wondering like what the [ __ ]. happened, right? So they check the. security camera footage and they see. they can see some of the boys getting. onto one of the boats. Okay. Right? And. I believe they were trying to steal. liquor. That was their plan. Like they. they wanted to hop on the boat, steal. liquor for the party. And then just go. back. And just go back. But they never returned. What the [ __ ].

So take this in. This is still unsolved. today and they don't know what happened. to them. Um police, right? They did like a whole. search Lake Ontario. Holy [ __ ] Couldn't. find one. Take this in. Six boys, right? Six boys. Two boats. Yeah. Right? Take this in. take this in. Yeah. The boat that they took it was called a. wayfarer something. No. Ah [ __ ] I. forgot the name of the boat, but the. boat they took. is supposed to be unsinkable. Huh? It's.

It's It's sold as unsinkable boat. So. even if like half of it gets destroyed a. piece of the boat It'll still float. It'll still float. It will still float. on the surface. So it's really weird. that the boat they couldn't find. anywhere, right? Now take this in. Take. this in. So time goes by time goes by. They still do do their search, right? No trace of the boys. Now. this woman she sees somebody that looks. like one of the boys, right? And he's.

like, wait, isn't that one of the. missing boys? Yeah. And he sees him walking, he turns. his head and he smiles at her. No. So she made eye contact with him. He. smiled at her. And she was noticing he. was walking towards what seemed like his. house, his mom's house. Okay. Right? Now. she called the mom right away. I think I. just seen your son. I think I just seen. your son. Yeah. And she she rushed home she rushed. home. She checked the house and it it. seemed like somebody was there. Like. things were out of place. What?

Yeah, things were moved, right? Yeah, yeah. Now keep in mind, six boys, right? That's a lot of That was only one. person, right? Now they're still looking. for evidence what could have happened. what could have happened. And a lot of. theories a lot of theories came up to. light on what could have happened to. them. Yeah. One of them is the obvious. one like, oh maybe they crashed the boat. and they sunk and they all died, right? Yeah, and then you get the like, oh. maybe like aliens took them or something. like that. get the crazy ones like that, right? Now. there's another theory. This one's kind. of plausible and this one's kind of. crazy. [ __ ] Pickering. Yeah. So Lake Ontario.

it's actually known for smuggling drugs. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. That's why That's why the police units. they have the boats. Oh, okay. during that time a party time where it's. like 3:00 a.m. 2:00 a.m. whatever. there would That was That's when you. want to do drug deals fam. Oh, [ __ ]. That's when you want to do drug deals. So the theory is that these six boys. hopped onto the boat and they might have. saw. something that they weren't supposed to. Whether it be like a drug deal or they.

were just witnesses to a crime. A very. serious crime. For For them to kill six. boys it must have been a very serious. crime, right? Human trafficking whatever. it could be. Yeah. So time goes by again time goes by. again. And another theory comes up, right? Because they find pants. Oh, [ __ ]. They find pants and and then these pants. came to light and they're like, these. are the same red pants that this boy. wore at the party. And this was washed. up on shore like I think two years three.

years after and like, yo these look like. his pants, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. this is where it gets sketch. This is. where it gets sketch cuz the police they. had the evidence locked up, but they. didn't want to show private. investigators for some reason. Also when. when the private investigators that were. rehired to keep looking for the boys. tried to get the security footage they. found Uh-huh. apparently they said the. footage doesn't exist. So it gets it gets sketch. It gets. sketch, right? Now another theory came. to light.

Okay. Now the theory was that these boys. they all planned it all along. What? They planned it all along. What do you mean? And around that time. there was this YouTube video. Yeah. You. know those those videos where it's like, how to how to survive a zombie. apocalypse, how to how to One of them. was how to survive a shark, how to. disappear, how to fake your death. Yeah. So the theory goes. they might have tried to fake their. death. Why? With this plan. Why though? Cuz they knew something was coming? No,

they just they just wanted to leave. Maybe they just Maybe they just had a. really impulsive decision and just. wanted to leave their life. Cuz remember. that lady that saw him? Uh-huh. That and. and she saw like, wait, that's the son. of the mom, right? he might still be alive. be alive. So it's weird. Also also there. was a sighting that I think somewhere in. Toronto there was like a beach and. somebody reported they saw all six of. the boys together on the beach. What? Yeah. I I'm surprised I never. heard of this cuz. usually when I search up Pickering like.

haunted or mysteries, remember I said. that Pickering camp tent lady? Yeah, yeah, yeah. one never came up. Yo, this one This is like a ongoing. unsolved mystery. They still haven't. Tho- Those red pants, remember what I. said? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. um they looked into it more and more. There's more? And they realized, yo these pants. they're not even the red Levi's that the. kid was wearing. So it was a completely. different pair of pants and they still. have no evidence to where they are. Zero. evidence. Not even an engine, not even a.

piece of the boat, nothing. They just. vanished, disappeared. Nah, that's hit. the hit the Illuminati button. So what. do you think? What do you think. personally what do you think happened to. them? All right, so this I While you're. telling the story I was kind of like. compelling like. Making your own theories, yeah? So you know how you said the cops never. showed the evidence, right? So you know. I hate referring back to this, but you. know it's good game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know in good game when. um the the workers were selling illegal.

organs and they and they shipped that. through what how they do it? Through a. boat through like water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? So maybe the cops have not shown. um what do you call this? The the. evidence just cuz maybe they might be in. In on it. on a legal drug deal that. they're getting stuff and maybe the boys. seen it. They were going to report it. They're like, "Nope, we're killing. them." Yo. And. another one. Here's another one. The The. six boys probably had like an Atlantis. moment where they saw like something.

with that uh like gold or or like bear. liquor like exotic liquors. that they they saw and they weren't. supposed to see that. So, someone like. the owner of those liquors killed that. killed them. Oh, [ __ ]. Yeah, those are my two that I came up. with. Yeah, cuz what if. if I was to make a movie about this? Yeah. It would have been like they found. the drug money and then they ran away. with like the bag of [ __ ] millions of. dollars. against the cops. They were against the. cops and [ __ ] But but it's already kind. of sketch cuz oh, the marina marina is.

already sketch cuz there's already. theories like you know animals that have. washed up on the marina? This is in. Pickering. Really? Like there was like an eel-like thing. where it's had fangs all around like Oh, yeah, yeah, you know why that is, fam? Cuz that's the Pickering marina is. literally the nuclear power plant. There's theories where if you swim long. enough, you'll turn into like a mutant. Like you'll be good if they ever release. a radioactive warning but you swam in. the marina, you're blessed.

Yo, that's. theory. That's like the cure. Yeah. No, but it's tough cuz you know that. you've probably been sent the. radioactive pills. Oh, yeah, the um the. iodine pills or something like that. scary. Like I wouldn't want anything. Dog, realistically, if they blow that. [ __ ] up, this whole thing is is dust. Yeah. Like there's nothing to be. standing, bro. Nothing to be standing. Yeah, that's true. You know what's funny. though? It's not really funny but. [ __ ] I don't have to be laughing. It's. not It's not really funny but.

There was this Game Boy that was um. You know what You know when they dropped. the the bomb on Nagasaki in Japan? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This Game Boy like. stayed intact. It was crazy. You seen. that? there's in It's in the museum right now. Yeah, it's like a It was on Tetris or. something and it's still like intact. That's kind of crazy to me. How strong are these like devices that. they can withstand that blast? Like what. the [ __ ] No, Game Boys like if you. really back it in uh you have a PSP, right? Yeah. It's [ __ ] heavy. Oh, yeah, it.

is pretty heavy. It's [ __ ] chunky. Mhm. And you now. now you got phones a little drop can. break the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. know. Why is that? Why is that they made. phones so fragile? Yeah, I know. But like the old. technology look at Look at Motorola. phones. That [ __ ] is indestructible. And. you're telling me they couldn't make a. phone. Yeah. like an iPhone that's. indestructible like a Motorola? 100%. they could. But they want to sell you. cases too. No, I Wake up, bro. Wake up, fam. Okay, yo, but I have another crazy. like disappearance story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So, you.

know you know the story about um Betty. and Barney Hill? Betty and Barney Hill? Wait, is this local? No, this is not. local. I think that this is in the US. Okay, okay. So so this is in Connecticut in like. 1963, right? Yeah. So Do you know about the thing. called the Blue Note Project? I think Have you heard about it? I heard Wait, the Blue Beam? No, it's called Have you heard about. Project Blue Book? Blue Beam, no? No, Blue Blue Book. It's Project Blue. Beam, isn't it? Aliens? Yeah, isn't it. Blue Beam? No, it's Blue Book. Project Blue Book? Oh, [ __ ]. Yeah, cuz it's a book of every time in.

the United States that someone has seen. an alien or a UFO. Oh. So, there's like pages and pages. That's. why it's called Blue Book. Oh, so. Project Blue Beam is something else. Yeah, it's something else. You have to. tell me about that after. Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead. So. what happened is Betty and Barney, right? They were driving driving around. It was late at night. There was no cars. around them. Mhm. Right? And the only. thing that they really noticed was a. light from the sky beaming at their car. Oh, [ __ ].

Right? Yeah. So, this is what happens. The There's There was so much light that. something landed in front of them. They. stopped the car, right? They got out, passed out. They didn't know what. happened until they woke up. Where did. they wake up? 30 like 30 yards away away. from where their car was was stopped. initially. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is. what they they interviewed Betty and she. said that she saw she saw like a. disc-like thing that they were getting. transported on.

Oh. And she saw in that was alien-like. creatures. Damn. is And this is crazy cuz they took all. lie detector tests. Yeah, and they they. passed. And it was all passed. Oh, [ __ ]. might actually be a thing. Like Yo, cuz. look look look. If if there's so many so. many sightings of the same thing and the. idea of like a disc-shaped UFO, we heard. that from there time ago. There people say the same thing. Mhm. So, come on. It has to be some. truth somewhere. And the And the same like time,

I think the US force said that on their. radars they actually seen a UFO in the. radar. So, Like like on the CIA black. books and [ __ ]. Yeah. So it was like green dots and then. you see that one red dot. Damn. During. the time when they were supposedly. transported by aliens. Yo, that's fire. I know. What the hell? No, no, no, cuz cuz my. cousins they had a sim- they had a. similar experience where they saw Yo, dead ass, they told me this and my. cousins don't lie to me, bro. So So, they were they were on their way. I. think they were in Washington. They're.

driving on a road and it was like a. forest, right? A random forest. All of a sudden, boom, big flash of. light. It lasted for like 3 seconds and. gone. It was almost like a. literal beam like a literal beam. Like. it looks like You know when Thor like. flies away and that big ass beam of. light comes? Yeah. That's what they said. it was. What? Yeah. Nah, it's like you know in a COD. when the mystery box moves and there's a. big. Yeah, like that, like that. Yeah, for 3. seconds, boom, and it's gone. What the.

[ __ ]. Yeah, and what That's all they told you? Like there was nothing else? and that's it. But what they say they. say it's like. They say Project Blue Beam. That's. That's what I thought you were talking. about. Yeah, what is that? Project Blue Beam is. supposedly this initiative they're. trying to do to fake aliens. Mhm, okay. to scare civilians about aliens. And. that's just like That's a conspiracy. that the higher-ups want want us to. believe in all of this [ __ ] so they can. they can like push us into different.

directions, right? So, why would they. want to do this? I ask you, why do you. think they would want to scare us about. aliens? Uh. I don't know. Uh maybe because of the. first thing that came into mind is just. distract us from coronavirus or some. [ __ ] like that. Mhm. So, this is the whole conspiracy. I'm not. saying I believe in this. Like this is. just for fun. Mhm. But what people say. is they say. they're trying to they're trying to. create fake aliens to push us in. directions so that they have control of.

us. Cuz if you think about it if you. think about it Yeah. What are you afraid. of? If you're afraid of something Yeah. and I control what you're afraid of, in. a sense do I control you? Oh. Yeah, for sure. Right? Cuz you can. dictate you can dictate what I do just. by putting stuff in front of me. Exactly. So, let's say you're you're. scared of ghosts, right? Mhm. And then I had like super crazy. technology to make fake ghosts in your. room. Yeah, you're [ __ ] for that. I would. control your life, would I not? Yeah, you would. That is. You would. You would just traumatize me to the. point where I would just not leave my.

room. Yeah, or you can like push you into even. just just on a very simple standpoint. Yeah. push direction. Like I want you to. move over there. I'm going to put a. ghost I'm going to ghost right in here. Like [ __ ] like Plants vs. Zombies. Monopoly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like playing chess. Yeah. So, that's the. whole conspiracy is what if the. higher-ups the elite they're trying to. they're trying to create an idea of. aliens so they can scare us and make us. do things like. Okay, I'm not going to get too deep into. rabbit hole but we'll leave it at that. Yeah, there's there's another theory.

where elites You know how they they you. said they kind of leave hints Mhm. in. like movies and [ __ ] So, there's a. theory that elites actually leave hints. on nickels. On nickels like money? Yeah. So, they you can predict we can kind of. predict the future based on a nickel. Oh. So So, every nickel is made in. advance. So, you get a nickel in 1999. Yeah. That nickel was made in 1998. Oh, [ __ ] Right? So, one of the nickels. I don't know I forgot the timestamp but. it had a bat on it. It had bats on it.

What was the start of coronavirus? From. a person who ate a bat. The bat soup. who ate a bat. They predicted it. It was. on the nickel. So, if we see aliens on a. nickel next, we're [ __ ]. Bro. No, no, no, no. That's too obvious. If. they show us a nickel with aliens on it, we know it's wrapped. So, you just know. it's wrapped, fam. But you know but we. don't cuz we're like the only top 5%. that actually look into this. That's. true. Like if you really seen a bat, you're like, "Ooh, that's pretty cool.". Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, have you seen that.

um. There was this kind of comedy sketch, right? And it's of this guy having a. conversation with a quote-unquote like. an extraterrestrial like an alien. Okay, okay. Right? So, it was a conversation this. guy having with an alien and pretty much. he was trying to explain to the alien. our economy. So, he was like, "Oh, um I have a boss. I work for my boss, right? And he pays. me money." Mhm. Right? And the alien's. like, "Okay, what do you use the money. for?" He's like, "I use this money to. buy food. So, I pay somebody else and. they give me food." Okay. Oh, but then.

he work his own job? Like, "Yeah, that's. how it works." So, the You know what the. alien said? This is deep as [ __ ] He. said, "So, you're telling me you trade. suffering for suffering?" Oh, [ __ ]. Cuz if you think about it, we're just. trading off. suffering. Mhm. So, let's say you work a. job that you don't like. Yeah. Most of. the times that's that's what the. population does, work a job they don't. like. Mhm. Right? But they have to do it to. get what? To get money. Money, yeah. Right? And we trade that. money for what? Services, goods,

products, whatever from somebody who's. making it. who is making it having their own. suffering. Their own suffering. No, that's low-key I never looked at it. like that. That's crazy. yeah, if you think about it, we're. literally just passing off other. sufferings and trading it off. Yeah. That's that's deep. That's deep. That's [ __ ] deep. right? Cuz the the person at Starbucks, I'm paying my money and they're. suffering doing their job if they didn't. like it. Yeah. And boom, if that's the trade-off. That's the trade-off. And that's how our.

economy works. Yeah, I know. And it You. know those those little like illustrate. illustrations where it's like society is. like this and like the the person has. the phone and they're just falling into. a pit. Oh, yeah, yeah. of like that. It's kind of Yeah, it is. kind of like that. illustration of that. No, it's like the one um it's like the. the people in the cave. No, I've never seen that. I've never. seen that. Oh, [ __ ]. Well, what happens? Okay, so there's like four stages, I. think. Okay. So, the first one you got. I'm going to put up the picture, too. The first one So, check this out. Check.

this out. Yeah. So, if you see here. Okay. This is There's four stages. This. is the first stage. So, there's people. in the cave, right? And then there's. there's symbols on the wall, shadows. casted onto the wall. And what are these. shadows casted by? Other people. Now, they don't realize. other people are casting those shadows. because they're only in this part of the. cave, right? yeah. Now, there's these people. Okay. They realize, oh, they're just casting. these shadows. This isn't real. So, they. climb out and they say, "Okay, I'm going. to find out the truth. What is the.

truth?" Okay. So, these people are truth seekers. Yeah, yeah. And then they become. enlightened. So, these are the people. that realize the truth and realize what. the world is on the outside. Yeah, yeah. So, it's kind of a metaphor. for people that control us, kind of like. the woke thing, right? So, these people. in a sense aren't woke. Yeah, or they're just uh getting like. [ __ ] fed into them. Yeah. So, this is this is an idea of. let's say media, whatever um high high. power is putting onto us, teaching us. all of these things, what life is about.

So, this is them teaching us what life. is, right? And they're stuck in that. cave. Yeah. And these are the people that. realize what life actually is. Yeah. Damn. But it only takes cuz if you. think about it, bro, all this conspiracy. stuff, it is it is all for fun, but Mhm. it it's it's a chance to like just be. open-minded and try to learn. And I. think that's the biggest thing we have. to keep is just our just our love of. learning. Just the just the willingness. to learn, right? I know. That's true. I.

I think um what do you call this? There. was also I seen a homeless guy. They. said that the homeless people know so. much and they're the most open-minded. because did you see the the homeless guy. was educating the kid? He had like a big. cardboard in front of his tent. No, I've. never seen that yet. like, "You have to invest in this. crypto. Do it right now." How the [ __ ]. does he know? I don't know. I don't know, but he's. like, "Make sure at 0.7 you invest into. this. You invest into this." I'm like, "What the fuck?" Wait, is that the time. traveler guy? No, I I don't know. I. don't I think we're talking about the. two different things. Wait, what's the.

time traveler guy? So, there's this. homeless guy, yo. There's this homeless. guy that people think is a time traveler. because he's writing like on the wall. all these like mathematical equations. And then he he has like receipts in his. pocket that he showed to somebody on the. street. He's like, "Look at this. receipt. It's from like 2076. 2076. I'm. not supposed to be here." And he's like. writing all of this like mathematical. equations. It's crazy. Nah, nah. It's crazy. But yeah, going back to the aliens real. quick. You know James Corden? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're suspecting him. This is like a. kind of funny theory, but he had a video.

with a I don't know if you know what an. xenomorph is. What is that? It's like it's like an alien like you. know Goku? How his final form is. supposed to be an xenomorph? Wait, you. mean Frieza? Oh, Frieza, Frieza. Yeah, or whatever that's called. Like. xenomorph. Yeah. It starts with the X, right? Like a weird alien. alien. Yeah. So, he had a a video uh. where he was eating uh I think the video. was labeled on a date with a my. girlfriend. Yeah. And it was an alien. Right? Yeah. And. people are saying that uh what do you. call it? That alien is actually real and.

since James Corden is a really big elite. Mhm. there's something going on weird. with it. Oh, so it's like it's just like for fun, but this was a fake. but this was another hint that the. elites gave us that aliens are actually. real and they're coming. Oh. Cuz yo, yo, what if what if it is real? What if it's real and then he's just. like trolling? Yeah, yeah. I know I know. Whenever we talk about aliens, why do we. never knock? Oh, cuz maybe we already. know. Maybe subconsciously we already. know aliens do exist. Look, I feel like.

they are, man. I feel like they really. are. point we had coronavirus, man, just. bring on the aliens. Yeah, we're ready. We're ready. You know, yo, you know what? Cuz. I I always think about like how do these. how do these uh let's say the people in. power, the elites think, right? How do. they think? Mhm. I'm. like, they have to have some sort of. like strategic plan, right? So, I'm. like, if I for example, you're dropping. clothes and I'm dropping clothes. And. you have this an idea that's not ready. yet, not ready for the public. You're. not going to release it right away cuz.

they're not ready for it. It might shock. them, right? Yeah, yeah. So, Why are you laughing? Bring it to like a. fashion like sense. Yeah. It's almost as. if they're like, "Okay, let's let's drop. this one first and we'll leave the. aliens for later.". That's true. Like give them a little. teaser. yeah. Because if you just bring. something out, whether it be like a a. huge different fashion um piece that. they're not ready for, like, "What the. [ __ ] is this?". Yeah, exactly. It's going to shock them. and then they're just going to be so. disgusted and it's just going to cause. panic. And I'm like, "What now? What.

now, right?" But wouldn't you say that. the coronavirus already caused the. panic? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. No, that's my point. But what warmed up coronavirus since. there's always a teaser before the big. bang? There's some things, but I don't. really want to say them. Why? Nah, there's some things that Yeah, let's. just stay on that topic. There's some. things. Okay. But but yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I. think if you really really really bag. it, what if the creation of TikTok This. is now a theory. This is a theory now. Listen, listen. This is my whole theory.

Look, what if the creation of TikTok was. planned to come out with conspiracy and. make conspiracies popular? Okay. Listen, listen, listen to scare us. more and prep us for even crazier [ __ ]. that will come out. Time out, time out. Cuz then No, you. can't say that cuz then you're just. putting the blame on us cuz listen, TikTok was created, right? Just for. dance. We were the first ones to create. the conspiracy. So, they're going to think that we were.

we're part of the elites. going to think we're part. It's like the elites Okay, listen. It's. like the elites had a list to do, what. to drop. Maybe let's let's make two. Asian guys and just come up with. theories and and [ __ ] and and uh. what do you call this? Make the [ __ ]. into fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if. what if What if they're so advanced? Yeah. Listen, what if they're so. advanced that they knew who I was and. they put content on my phone to make me. want to do a podcast and make me want to. talk about conspiracies? Nah, man. Nah.

Hey, man. We're put on this planet We're. put on this planet for for certain. purpose, you know? Exactly. What if that. purpose was predetermined, fam? That's. crazy. And you said the first theory, so. it's not on me, okay? So, anything bad. happens, he's the teaser. Yo, you know. what? It's not even Okay, obviously. that's [ __ ] fake. Like that's not. going to happen. Nah, but just cuz we said that like this. like this, people are going to They're. going to They're going to act like, "Oh, [ __ ] It's real.". It's real. You know. No, don't throw up that. Don't throw up.

that. Oh my god. If you ever drop a. picture like that, like you throw it. like a little hint. Nah, nah, I can't. I can't, man. I. can't. Yo, there was a there was a crazy a. crazy theory that You know how you know. how Jim Carrey did the Oh, yeah, yeah. And he did that whole thing on Jimmy. Kimmel. Yeah, with the You talked about. it, right? And they added like the laugh. track and [ __ ]. Uh-huh. His wife died, fam. Recently? Yeah. Oh, [ __ ]. was a there was a I saw this TikTok. I. saw this TikTok. It was showing him. doing the the whole thing on on that.

show. Yeah. And then right after showing the. picture of him holding the coffee. What? Yeah. Oh my god. That's scary. all the the most sus [ __ ] happens on. talk shows. Why is this Jim Do you Do. you think that these talk shows are so. big that they have a big audience and. everyone listens to them that they're. just going to put out [ __ ] and. that's why Jim Carrey wanted to go over. there and do that? Yo, you know what? I. think just just broadcasting in general. Broadcasting in general, yeah. Just that. note, like I'm not I'm not going to put. names, but just freaking television in.

general has kind of like that you can. control people type of thing, you know? You can say this is a broadcast. Yeah, but but the internet That's why I. think social media is so powerful. because it's the people. It's literally. the people. And where you can get Whoa, I just got I just came up with a crazy. theory. You can get you can get iffy is. when people start to pose as the free. people. Mhm. So, what if what if we're What if we're. pretending to be like a small podcast. with just me and you when in reality we.

have this huge network and we have a. huge agenda behind us that we're trying. to control people? Okay. No, it's So So, you're saying that it's. like a cult, basically. No, I'm just saying. I guess. Because because right now a. thing that's very popular, you see it in. TikTok. It's like you have different. cults now. So, you have the underground. like the Yeat fans, you know, that's a. underground fan. That's a whole cult. You know, Yeat if he wanted to take over. something, all of the the Yeat fans.

would go with him. Why? Cuz he's like. the leader of that. Mhm. You know? Mhm. I think there was a there. was a story Yeah. how A$AP Mob they had. like their concert for Yams, right? And. they got charged with inciting a riot. because because right after like they. were partying on the streets. Mhm. Yep. So, in a Yeah, in a sense like. they kind of did cause it, but unintentionally, unintentionally. It's just it's just that gathering of. those people together. And strength in. numbers, right? That's a very important.

thing. I think there was like a a. metaphor with a bundle of sticks. You. ever heard that metaphor? yeah. So, one arrow No, it was arrows. It was like a I think it was a native. metaphor. One arrow, weak. Boom, cracks, right? Bundle of arrows, strong. You can't. break it. So, strength in numbers is. when you have all these people together. under one movement, nothing can break. them. But alone, it's easy to just chop up. chop apart. And and it's it's the. marketing was perfect with the ASAP Mob.

Cuz when you think ASAP Mob, you already. think like oh riots, rebellion, right? And there was this one. concert. So, this is a crazy like a. concert memory that somebody somebody. did. So, everyone was throwing beer cans. and water bottles at ASAP Rocky. Why? Right? I don't know why. I guess they. they just didn't want to get they didn't. like what they were performing. And ASAP. was like looking at the crowd, if I see. one more person throw a and before he. finished the sentence, he got hit in the. face with a with a can. Yeah. What he.

did, dropped the mic, ASAP Mob flooded. flooded the crowd. Yeah, yeah. Oh [ __ ]. The one guy that threw the water bottle, they caught him. And they're like he's. right there. Damn. He left with like the the blackest face. Like Yeah, yeah. Like bruised up. Yeah, your UFC fight and you like you just. transform. Like swollen. Oh my god. Yeah. So, they just wrecked him on. there. [ __ ] wrecked him. And like oh. my god, it was crazy. So, what happened? Did he like sue or I don't know. Could. he even sue for that? Cuz he was the one.

who initiated it. Yeah. Like who's. really in the wrong? I don't know. Okay, okay. If if you if you incite a riot. Yeah. That's a crazy question to ask. That is a crazy question. But but keep. going. And if you Wait, where was I going with. this? Hold on, hold on, hold on. If you. incite a riot, right? Okay. Are you responsible for every one. of their actions because you started it? Mm, that's a good question. you're a leader. Let's say you're a. leader and then you start like a.

movement of something. Yeah. But it it. trickles down into so many different. sectors cuz that's what happens. When. it's a huge group of people, they're not. all going to be doing the same thing. Yeah. There's other people that might. have different values or whatever and. decide to do some [ __ ] that's against. your morals. But are you still. responsible if you're the leader? Yes or. no? Yes. I believe it. Cuz if I'm if I'm. influencing them to do the bad [ __ ] and. they do the bad [ __ ] Yeah. If if someone. interrogates them, who told you to do. this? Me. Mm. Why? Do you think Do you think it's.

opposite? No. Okay. But I think I think. there's a debate there where it's like. you your original message wasn't that. Yeah. That's true. Your original message. wasn't something. Yeah, like they took. it too far and that's not my fault kind. of. Mhm. But at the same time, it is. what it is. Yes, you So, so that's. that's the debate is. if if you if you're the one that. gathered these people but they decide to. do something else, is it still your. intention? You you can look at it like. just team sports, right? Yeah. If if we. lose a basketball game, is it one the.

leader's fault or all of our faults? Mhm. Is it the coach's fault, too? It's. the coach's fault. ever the coach's fault? Yes, yes. That's. a good question. It's ever the coach's. fault. Yes. Cuz a coach has to make. substitutions. If the one guy's fatigued. but he keep the kept him on the whole. time, that's his fault. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? And I think I I I don't. think I can play team sports anymore. Why? And I this is when I found out that like. I couldn't play team sports. Why? Right? So, I think it was. when I when I quit basketball, right? Yeah. This was. I used to play 2K a lot and it was.

always my player. Mm. My player. So, I would work only worry. about my stats. Yeah. So, I knew I wasn't meant for team. games when I wanted the starting point. guard to [ __ ] up. Oh, so you can play. Because. I get playing time. But at the same time, I get playing. time. That's me. I I can't do that. So, so you think you think you transitioned. over? Yeah, yeah. Cuz in Taekwondo, it's like. what do you call this? I have fun by. myself.

Yeah. Right? But I if if my teammates catch me. having fun and not in a serious mood, they get mad at me. Man, let me just. have fun. So, I'm responsible in. Taekwondo for my own faults and I can. just blame it on myself. Mhm. It's. harder to put more fault, you know? Yeah, but that's that's the thing. Like. do you are you looking for faults? Are. you ever looking for faults? Like if. something doesn't go your way, are you. quick to blame yourself or others? Cuz honestly, sometimes I I do blame. others. Like if I'm going to be real, I. I always try to look for a way like.

okay, if if I did my best, then [ __ ] it. can't be my fault. Mhm. But I'm so quick. to do that because I guess I'm a. stubborn person. And that's just me. being real like if if there's certain. things I couldn't handle or I couldn't. like control, then I want to like blame. them right away. Yeah. Yeah, I I I beat. around the bush. I never blame myself. but I know in deep in my soul that I. know it's me. Mhm. But I always just try. and find a way to excuse myself, you. know? That was his fault. Mhm. It's kind of like my toxic trait. Yeah. That's a hard one. That's a hard. one cuz you have to be you have to be.

ready to like accept. Yeah. Right? And. that's tough. That's hard to swallow, fam. That's hard to swallow. Like if if. I have to. I have to bag myself like oh it's. because of me that [ __ ] didn't happen, then it's like tough. I know. But then I. I don't want to argue with more people. I'd rather just be arguing with myself. No, exactly, exactly. That's why that's. why I think it's the best when I can. just if I can just blame myself only. You know what I mean? And I don't see it. other ways. That's why like. that's why I love when it's a game I'm. playing on my own. Because if I [ __ ] up,

then it's on me. I just get mad at. myself only. I can't I don't have the. choice to be mad at somebody else. Yeah. Right? And I think that choice is. where a lot of people you have to you. have to be willing to be a great leader. and be willing to understand their. choices. Yeah. Right? Cuz would you would you. agree that if you want to if you want to. just get get away with it quickly or fix. the issue right away, Uh-huh. you have. to be willing to just accept right away. Yeah, for sure. You I think you do just. cuz yeah, if it's your fault, you just.

got to bag it. Cuz then they'll just. start more arguments. Cuz I think the. faster you accept, the faster you can. fix. Yeah, yeah. I [ __ ] that that goes into. like everything. Like relationships, life. Oh yeah, no that's that's what's. true. I I never like I I've matured now. is like I never hold grudges cuz in my. mind, I always think that never burn a. bridge cuz maybe is like that person. that I held a grudge on and and like. faulted maybe in the future like he's. going to employ me or get me a job or.

some. Or he's going to Or or they going to. show up. Yeah, link me to another. person, right? So, I'm like [ __ ] do I. really want to hold a grudge? And at the. same time, we're getting so old where. like when you're on your deathbed, you're going to you're and you still. hold a grudge, that's pathetic. Come on, man. Yeah. Unless it's something super. super like on some anime level like you. betrayed my family type of thing, then I. don't think I don't think it's that. serious, man. Yeah, I know. I don't What. what would be the point to where. somebody would you would have to hold a. grudge against someone? Yeah, that has.

just like the anime storyline. There's. some there's something like You either. killed one of my like close friends or. my family. Mm. Or is there like how What. was your longest grudge if you had one? A longest grudge? Like say you have a fight with someone, is it 2 minutes, 5 minutes, a year, a 2. years? Damn, I don't I don't know. Okay. That's a good question though. That's a. really good question because. I think the fact that I don't know is. because I just like forget. it right away. Cuz I forget it. I don't. want to remember it, right? Yeah. Damn, that's a good Let me think.

Yeah, yeah. I don't know, bro. Yeah, you. can say it was like 5 minutes. It. doesn't have to be like a crazy. storyline. No, but I'm really I'm really trying to. think like. is there is there somebody that I still. think that I can't forgive them for? And. I don't think so. I don't think there's. somebody I can't forgive. Okay. And I. think I only started thinking I only. started be being like that recently. Cuz looking back, if I was in high. school, I could probably name something. Yeah, that's true. Like have you ever. has Have you ever seen when someone was.

talking behind your back but you. actually seen it in real life? Cuz that. I think that is a great. that that you you can have a grudge to. that. Cuz you see it. Talking Talking behind your back? Yeah, yeah. Yo, honestly, nah. I don't. think I have a grudge against that. Cuz. now when I see if I do see somebody like. talking [ __ ] or at least talking behind. your back, then I see them as weak. I'm. like yo, y'all couldn't just say that. right here. Yeah. You know what I mean? Cuz yo, if you have that if you have. that confidence in yourself where.

um they they're weaker because they. couldn't come to you. Mhm. You know what. I mean? And say it to your face. Yeah. A. real person or like somebody that really. wanted to say something to affect you. would come to your face and say it. You. know what I mean? A coward would hide in the shadows. A. coward would hide behind the phone. A. coward wouldn't want to see your face. when you say it. Yeah. You know what I. mean? They want to hide behind the. screen. That's facts. Yeah, cuz I've. I've seen like with my own eyes like. [ __ ] that I was not supposed to see. Oh,

really? like it was about me, right? So, and. that at that moment I was like [ __ ]. bro. It's a it's it's like a. gut-wrenching feeling, right? Like I was. not supposed to see this but I seen it. and they were talking [ __ ] I was like. okay. Okay, but now. I don't really want to hold a grudge to. it. It's just something that built me. more, right? And I can I can endure it. now since I've been through so much. [ __ ] pain already. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, now it's just like thing. And one. thing too is crazy is like someone told. me is like Gavin, you tell me all this. like pain stories. I would never I would.

never expect you to have all that [ __ ]. cuz you're always smiling. I was like. and I told him, you would never know. when I'm going through some [ __ ] cuz I. just cry and thug it out and then I'm on. to the next. I'm smiling when I get out. And it's kind of it's kind of sad but. like you got to do that. I'm my own. therapist. Yeah. But I think I don't I don't I. don't think you should you should like. rush right away though. Like I think you. should I think you should really go. through your sadness though. Like that. [ __ ] has to be expressed, fam. Yeah, for. sure. Right? Like you you should you. should never hold in any feelings. That's for everybody out there. Like if.

you get your heart broke, if you go. through something, don't just hold that. in. Like try and have your moments but. don't cry about it for too long. I think. Drake said it actually. Drake had this. In a in a bar? No, no, no, no. Drake. Drake said this in an interview. Yeah. He said his mom had this famous. like 72-hour rule. Okay. Where if. something bought if something bothers. you. Yeah. it's going to bother you the first. 24 hours. You're going to go to sleep. and you're going to wake up Mhm. and. it's still going to bother you. Yeah. But it's going to be a little bit. less. Then you go to sleep and you wake.

up. Maybe on the third day it still. bothers you, but after that it's fine. Yeah. You know what I mean? It will feel. like nothing. Yeah. Cuz at some point. you just got to let it go, bro. Yeah. And it's good to make those decisions. Like let's say let's say you have let's. say you saw something Okay. right? And. it would have affected let's say a a. friendship. Like something you hold. really dear or even a relationship. Let's say a relationship. Okay. And you you didn't want to jump to. conclusions, you know what I mean? You. don't want to jump Yeah, you don't want. to jump to conclusions. If something.

small bothers you, I think if you have. to take time to like Okay. Let me evaluate. Yeah. Let me see if it still bothers me. And if it still bothers you after the. 72-hour rule, then I say it's a worth. bringing up. Oh, that that No, that's. that's valid. That's valid. Right. Also, what do you So say you find. information. Mhm. about. about something that could ruin a. relationship between maybe friends or. maybe boyfriend and girlfriend. Mhm. And this was your close friend that. that that the information you have.

affected. Like it's bad on his. Oh. Would you tell your friend that or would. you just keep it and let him find out? Where did the information come from? I don't know. That's a good question. That's a good question. Where did the. information come from? Let's say from. Or you seen? Uh from like the friend the friend of. the girl that [ __ ] I don't know. No, but that's a great question cuz it. it it depends, right? If it's. if it's from the girlfriend, then yeah, I think her at least exposing that to me.

would be the trust in the sense of me. telling that guy. Yeah. You know what I. mean? Yeah. Or like I'm supposed to in a. sense. Right? But if it comes from by. accident or it comes from like a. unreliable source, then maybe not. Yeah, cuz No, I'll just give you an example. Yeah. So um. one of my friends. Yeah. uh called me one day, right? Mhm. And he saw he saw my ex and some. other guy in a restaurant. Yeah. Right? And my friend was at the. restaurant, too. So he called me, right? And I'm like, "Oh, yo, what's up, bro?". He's like, "Yo, I'm just eating." He's.

like, "Yo, your your girl's here with. someone else." I'm like, "What?". I was like and then after some time I. was like, "Why would you tell me that? You If you see something like that, don't tell me that. The thing is already. over. Why would you bring new. information to me? You know?" Oh, for an. ex? Yeah, that would affect me. It would. affect me. It would affect me. Yeah, that doesn't that makes no sense though. Oh, wait, you're saying ex or current. girlfriend? No, ex ex. Oh, then what the [ __ ] Who. cares? No, no. Yeah, but no, this was. just like, you know, the the weird time. and point where it was just. Oh, like right after? Yeah, it was. fresh. And so but this is why he said.

his reason. He's like, "No, I feel like. it would just hurt me more if I didn't. tell you." Oh, hurt him more? No, no, hurt No, hurt me more. He's like, "I had. to tell you, fam, cuz it would just be. bad on my conscience." Yeah, it would. hurt him, too, cuz he feels guilty. He. feels guilty. But you don't just If you see someone. that I I messed with before, don't don't. tell me that. Yeah, that's true. Like I don't want to hear new. information. No, but it's it's good to This is how I. see it. I think it's it's good to just. like detach or at least be comfortable.

with seeing that. Yeah. You get me? I think the quicker. you can get with like seeing the worst. possible outcome, the better. Yeah, facts. The better because you don't want. your imagine imagination to play out. And for me especially cuz I'm a very. visual imagination. Yeah. Oh my god, I. don't want to see [ __ ] you know what I. mean? I don't want to imagine nothing. I. I'd rather just like see exactly what. the problem is and be like, "Okay, that's what it is." Boom, I don't have. to keep thinking and thinking and. thinking cuz that's what keeps you up at. night. Yeah, fam, I always have like I think I.

had to stop doing that cuz I was. creating false expectations for. situations. Mhm. Right? So when I went to. uh what do you call it? Ash trip? I. always thought boom. Like in my head I. was creating scenarios. Yeah. Oh, we're going to have so much. fun. We're going to get drunk. We're. going to do all this. None of the [ __ ]. that happened like Project X in my head. happened. Oh, cuz you had too much expectation. I wasn't having fun. Why? Because I was. trying to make those expectations come. true. I wasn't living in the moment. Oh. Yeah. See, that's what I think we said. this literally last podcast where where.

you shouldn't go in with expectations. You try going blind. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's so. true, bro. Just do that [ __ ] on your. own, man. Cuz that's the problem with. all of these rom-coms, movies, anything. anything. Literally anything. Even your. your friends hyping you up about. something. Even your friends giving you. false hype. What's that? You can give a lot So no, but sometimes you need to Okay, do you. think it's good to hype up a friend that. that shouldn't be hyped up?

[ __ ] I don't know. Don't ask me that. Do you think it's good? Cuz I'mma be hypocritical cuz I always. hype up no matter what. Mhm. But at the same time it's like for. for things I really think that is really. good. Mhm. I hype up to them I it's like. genuine hype. You'll see me. I'll post. on my story. I'll do all of that, right? But I don't want to kill a guy's dream. if I see him trying. Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, that's true. That's true. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. But I. think there's a way you can like give. um Oh, uh criticism? Yeah. Constructive? Constructive criticism at least. But it.

takes a person to like understand. Exactly. Cuz I guess like I don't know. A a person that's too emotional would. take that and be like, "Oh, he's not my. friend no more. Blah blah blah." What. whatever I do to eliminate conflict with. somebody, I'm just not going to say it. cuz I hate getting into conflicts. Yeah. Like say it's like a simple thing like a. pizza the pizza person forgot my dip. I'm. too it's too much conflict if I ask. What? No, it's not that. I'm just going to leave it. Really?

that's the type of person I am. I think. I'm the opposite. Yeah, you are cuz you're what the [ __ ]. And my mom's opposite. She's like, "No, give me that. Give me that." Yeah, I. think I'm the opposite. Like if. something's not right, like I go and fix. that cuz I want what I want and I know. what I want. I beat around the bush a. lot. Damn. Yeah, I think I think looking. back there might have been scenarios. where like you'll call us go ask for. that. Hey, oh yeah. I think that happened. before, right? I know. Remember we had like our our. plates our food? What plates? They they. gave us the wrong orders. No, no, you. got my order. I got your order. I'm.

like, "Wait, what is this?". Wait, where was that again? I'm trying. to remember. I think it was Marco's. station or something. yeah, yeah. Like, "What is this?" But But what did I. do? do You just got up and eating. I'm like, "What the fuck?". Well, what did I do? I was already. eating, fam. Just whatever was on the table was just. me. Yeah. Dude, you know what's crazy though? Like. and I seen this in person. One of my. friends couldn't even tell a waiter that. um for water. You know how you ask for. water? What? So it was so funny. The waiter was.

walking by and my friend was like he did. one of these, but then he was like I. seen him crumble. Really? He's like, "Oh, shit." What? I. was like I was like I was like, "Bro, ask." I was like, "He's like, "No.". I was like, "You got it. You got it.". For water? Yeah, but seeing that it's like no, you. can't blame him cuz maybe he might be. like introverted. True. Yeah, yeah, yeah. funny seeing it cuz I'm an introvert. It's funny seeing that, you know? Damn, yo. Honestly Just. need If you need something, go get it. Go get it, yo. Facto. Cuz you don't want.

to you don't want to like leave it in. the dust. You get me? You want to be. able to put something in your hand and. say, "Okay, something happened because I. did it.". Yeah. And I think no matter what I'm in, whether it be a career I choose, whether. it be a project I want to do, whether it. be yeah, literally anything. I want to. make sure like. I can see it to full fruition and what I. wanted to see cuz if it if it doesn't. happen that way, then I'm just going to. have regrets. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean? I. think yeah. There's psychologists where. it's like when we think about ourselves, we always think negatively first, right?

Cuz that's why people who who are. attractive don't think that they're. attractive. And there's actually a. theory where it's like Have you heard. this? It's like you're 20% more. attractive than you than you think. Than you think. Yeah. I don't know if. that's true. Is it true? I think so cuz. there like studies say that um. if you're attractive, you don't get a. lot of compliments, right? Cuz. people people already think you know. that. So they don't want to So they. don't want to gas They don't want to gas. you up more. Yeah. I think yeah, I heard. that one. And that might be true, too.

That might be true, too. Cuz would you. would you tell Conor McGregor, "Oh, you're such a great fighter."? No. If I'm in a fight with him, no. Or at. least like compliment something small. like, "Oh, you know what? I think the. big one was is like a sneakerhead. When. when a sneakerhead's on his come up and. he just has a few pairs like a few nice. pairs and you compliment his shoes, then. if you it's more like valuable because. he only has a few pairs of shoes. But. when it's somebody that has like a whole. collection, you're you're less likely to be like, "Oh, nice kicks. Nice kicks." cuz you're. not going to say that every day when he. wears a different pair of shoes. For sure. No, but I noticed this, too,

in anyone doing a startup business. You're first when you're really small. Yeah. they'll repost everything. Repost, repost, repost. Yeah. But as soon as you get bigger, bigger, the support. gets less cuz they think you already. have that big fan base. Oh. Right? So. they're not going to support you no. more. And at the same time it might be. jealousy. It might be this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know that you're not going to. see the same love as I think cuz the the. big when we first released the podcast. Yeah. everyone was on it. Everyone was. like, "Yo, you guys are going to do. crazy things.". Mhm.

But after when we actually blew up. Like people we know, you mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think I agree. I don't I don't hear the "Oh, good job, guys. You did it.". I agree, yeah. I've never heard that you. did it, but I heard you guys are going. to do good. There's some real ones. though. I'm not going to I'm I'm not. going to There are some real ones. Yeah, shoutout to the real ones that. that were there from the beginning. But yeah, there's some people I think. it's almost a sense of they wanted to do. something that they couldn't or they see. they feel bad on themselves because. they're not doing something. for their own. Yeah. You get me? Mhm.

But yo, that's that's the problem is. when I think people look at social media. too much and compare themselves. That's when you get in so much conflict. or so much issues is you're you're. looking at stuff that I forgot who said. it. It's like why would you look at. somebody else's plate when your food is. getting cold? Oh, I think I heard that. too. That was that was a crazy one. Right? Think about it. Why would I look. at your stuff when I have my food right. here and and it's going to diminish as. we as I as I waste time. Yummy. And.

that's the problem is when people try to. compare themselves to younger younger. people in the game. People on the come up. People in. in music industry that maybe they had a. one-hit wonder. You need to get that. You need to get that. You need to get. that. When you have your own grind and that's. completely separate. Nothing they will. do will affect your career. Nothing. And I think. another one I heard is like everyone has. their own clock. Right? Their own clock like their own life that. certain achievements that you get will.

be different. So you might not blow up. at 13, 14 years old. Maybe you might hit. that that peak at 25. You got to stick. to your don't don't see whatever they're. doing. Just stick to your clock cuz your. time will come if you put in the work. Yo, you know what's crazy? I think Jay-Z. started rapping in his like late 30s. The guy who made the smiley face. The. artist? The artist like that only became. popular when he like right before he. died or some [ __ ] Really? I think that. that it was the smiley face. Damn.

Or maybe the lightbulb. I don't know. That's completely different things, bro. That [ __ ] is so that's completely. different like sectors in life, fam. But yeah, I think it was the smiley. face. The smiley face. Smiley face. Yeah, look at Gary V. Yo, Gary, do you. know his story? You know his story? His story was he worked out of high. school for his dad for his dad's. business. until he was like [ __ ] I think he's. till he's 40.

Until he's 40 and he didn't start. posting online until then. So literally. his first time posting himself. was late was when he was 40, bro. That's so crazy to me. Imagine if he. started when he was young. Whenever you. see Gary V, I just think. I remember the thing that Ryan said in. the group chat where he kissed his dad. It's like Gary V sus. No, but what okay, would you would you. do the would you pull a Gary V if you.

were in his shoes and work for your work. for your family for all of those years. and not work for yourself? You want to know why I said? Okay, yeah. You go ahead. Hell no. But that's just me. But what if that's the building platform. for you? Like you get money from your. family, then you got to build it. yourself. See, I don't know. Is that me. being selfish then? I don't know. I don't know. But I think. I maybe cuz I'm such an individual. person. Like I don't want to I don't want to be. attached to like oh, it's oh like so you. might say oh later in the future you're.

like oh, I have to pay them debt. I owe. them. No, I [ __ ] with that cuz that when I. started my brand, I didn't ask my. parents for money cuz if I do and it. blows up, guess what? I have to pay them. back. The dividends. So you would rather. build it from ground like dirt instead. of having like the the foundation. already set for you. But it was built by. someone else cuz I guess you don't you. don't get the what do you call this? You. don't feel happy at the end cuz you.

didn't start it. That's kind of a weird. thinking. That's like it is a weird. thinking. It is a egotistical thinking. But I don't I don't think anything is. wrong. I don't think anything is wrong. like no matter what you'll find your. way. But you just have to be I don't know. I. think you have to be willing to. to understand. I think at least you as. long as you understand both sides, there's no way you can you can be at. fault for it. Does that make sense to you? At fault. for it? Kind of. So like. let's say let's say I decide to do.

something over one. I think. as long as you understand why you chose. it, makes sense. Yummy. Cuz I I think I think it's bad when you. just pick a side and then like you don't. even you don't even consider the other. one. It's biased. Have you ever been Have you ever been. put in that position? No, but I see. people do it all the time. Like let's say let's say you're you're. at school and then somebody says. oh, I like I like this this artist, but. they didn't even listen to it. You know. what I mean? Yeah, or or or people that say oh, that.

that artist is trash. That artist is. trash. Haven't even listened to the. whole album. You know what I mean? Me. Certain artists, fam. I'll just go with the group. I think I. think that's maybe because I I take my. my time to. to learn everything and I'm like when. people are so quick to give a hot take, then I'm like yo, that that's. disrespectful not only to me, to the. artist too or to the art. Cuz imagine. like say CLB came out, right? The first. I don't know like any any artist right.

now dropping something, a big artist, they'll say it's trash. First listen. That's like that's like the main thing. cuz everyone wants to be different. I. don't think there's been an album. released in 2022, a 2021 that was trash. Someone said that was actually good at. the start. You know? It's always been Playboi. Carti. This [ __ ] is ass. Cuz every. you're right. You have a really good. point where you say everybody wants to. be different. Everybody wants to be like. that the antagonist. Cuz I've never seen an album when it.

first came out everyone was like let's. go. Let's go. This is amazing. There's always that. clout I mean the the the cult. Yeah, this [ __ ] sucks. I think it's because. when there's so much eyes on it. When. it's something else when it's like a. like a Frank Ocean where it's a very. knitted knitted community, everybody's. gassing cuz there's nothing to hate on. There's nothing to hate on. Low key. all the trap artists, Playboi Carti, Uzi, they'll say it's trash, but you get. the the soft Tyler the Creator fans.

Tyler the Creator fans love Tyler the. Creator. Oh, that that I think that was. one of the only albums. Oh, Igor? Cuz. that actually I don't listen to Tyler, but that made me listen to Tyler. Why? Cuz all the comments were like this is. this is amazing. I want to be part of. that that love. You probably get what. I'm saying. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Maybe. that's what Maybe it's because we want. to have that feeling of like. welcomeness. and then that's what makes other people. stray away. Yo, I think that's why we do so good cuz.

we have like a a bond tight-knit. community where they can where like the. kuyas, you know, you they can just come. up to us whenever you want. Ask us for. advice. Yeah, facts facts. Yeah, on the. Discord like I've been like helping. anybody out that wants to they need a. little bit of advice or whatever. Just. hop in and give them whatever I can when. I can. But you don't see that a lot. You don't. see that a lot and I feel like that's. where that's where I guess leaders or at. least really big people in can have an. influence. Really popular influencers, they kind of.

lose that that sense of. it's all together. We're here together. And it's hard to control because there's. so many. I I I I I want to say I feel guilty that. I don't respond to every DM. I know it's. hard. I try. Yeah, I literally try. I yo, but I you know what I still do? I. still reply to every single Instagram. comment. Oh yeah, I. I reply to every single Instagram. comment no matter what. But unless it's like unless it's like. old, then I won't reply.

No, but I try. No, but dead ass dead ass, it it took me. like like I want to say 3 days. to finish, but I did. I tried. Yeah. Make sure to comment on my Instagram. 100% respond. Now we have more work to do, bro. You know what was the sneakiest like. marketing tactic that I've seen? So you. know in the stories there's like random. ads that come across. There was one ad. where they put a hair in the ad. Like.

you know like a little hair string. So the comments. I had to snow I had to. swipe up to get the hair out, but it's. not on the it's not on my screen. It's. like it's on the ad. So it swiped up to the thing. That's smart. I was like no way. That's. smart. Yo, you know who's smart as [ __ ]. with with marketing? Logan Paul. Have. you seen Have you seen the Prime the. Prime drink? Have you seen like the the viral videos. he's making? Bro, Logan Paul.

the monkey. You see the monkey? Bro. He's got every every celebrity. right now trying that [ __ ] too. Gary V. I think tried it. Mr. Beast. Everybody. Once we get Mr. Beast to co-sign anything, you're. rockets. You think Mr. Beast is is the. king of creators right now? Yes. I don't. think there's anybody else besides Mr. Beast. You can't cancel Mr. Beast. First. of all, there's nothing wrong with Mr. Beast. His content is kid-friendly. Kid-friendly. There's nothing you can't call him dorky.

and [ __ ] because he makes more money. than you. This guy's like Goku, fam. Like you can't touch him. All right, you want to. This was a long podcast. Felt like a. long podcast. I did. I think we're just. spitting like some shoe [ __ ]. I want to end it there, but. yeah, thank you everyone for watching. this episode of Jumpers Jump podcast. Make sure you hit the links in the bio. Follow us on Instagram. Comment, like, subscribe, all that good stuff. Go. listen to Spotify, Apple, all that. Go. listen. And yeah, Jumpers Jump out. Deuces.