LOVE ATTRACTION THEORIES, ASIAN SUPERSTITIONS & HAYDEN PANETTIERE MYSTERY - EP.301

You can put any name you want. >> Uhhuh. >> But you can't put Jesus. >> Mhm. >> Like on the website. On the website. >> What if it's like inviting demons into. your house, inviting negative energ. like you looking at me like I like I'll. be like this, but like in my head I'm. like I want to move. It's it's scary, bro. >> You can actually put yourself cuz. physically whenever you do this you're. usually agreeing. So, if I get you in a.

sequence like this and we're doing it. together, I got you. >> The gingerbread man, he's like, I want. someone to love me forever. And then he. made the gingerbread girl. And then the. gingerbread girl. Yeah, the gingerbread. girl. [music]. >> The guys are on the booths now. We get. the free shots. >> The girls have no promotion at the. clubs. >> Yo, not even a hot take. [laughter]. We're living in a world where guys don't. go to we don't fight no more. We don't.

go to war no more. We be paybacks. >> Man's be too sassy. Look at [laughter]. the war is who gets to the front of the. line and skip the whole line first. That's the war. [laughter]. >> Who gets that cast on their head first? Give me that bottle. That's the war. >> Yo, it's probably so crazy as a promoter. right now that you have more [laughter]. guys hitting you up to be in booths than. girls. Guest guest is just all guys. Well, now we understand what it's like. >> Like once you once you be a bad [ __ ]. you can't go back. >> No, you cannot. >> Well, you give us the juice one time and.

it's like. >> once you once you experience penthouse, the lobby don't IMPRESS YOU NO MORE. >> That's the thing though. Okay. How do. you go? [laughter]. >> That's the bar. >> How do you go from something that's so. great and then go downwards? You know. what I'm saying? Like [clears throat]. that's that's the problem people had. with rich people. They're like, "Yo, once you have your Lambo, once you have. like your Mercedes or whatever, you. can't go back down.". >> But that sucks though cuz now Yeah. Now. your reality is like tempted. Like you. can't even have a good time if you don't. have a if if you don't have what you.

want in your head. >> Mhm. >> At that club. >> So do you think it's a curse to get. something too good too quick? >> Too good. Too quick. Yes. >> But good things, no. >> Good things never good things never. No. But like too much. Yeah. Yeah. >> I have a hard Yeah. Cuz if we say like. we got to humble ourselves and start. waiting in line. I'm like. [laughter]. >> yo yo yo craziest thing I was in Japan. so I was with all my friends and they're. like yo Gavin you have motion like. everywhere. Just get us in fam I'm.

across the [ __ ] worldap. >> What do you think I can do in Japan? >> Low key it works though. >> No it works but like fam I don't speak. the language. The bouncers don't know. me. I'm like yo this is imp. They're. telling me why are we waiting in line? We are halfway across. This is not gang. >> But here's the thing though. You can. actually fake your way up. No. matter what you have charisma, you know. the part. >> you can get in any room. >> It's true. >> It's confidence. Confidence.

>> What's the What's the manager method? >> The manager. [laughter]. What's the manager method? Tell that. >> Yo, this the thing the thing that's so. funny is you could actually do this if. if like you don't even have proof too. >> Yeah. Yeah. So the manager method what. we do cuz obviously we get like oh this. our Tik Tok like let's make club right. >> but it hits more when somebody is with. you that goes up to the bouncer and be. like yo listen I manage these guys like. we're trying to make some content we're. going to post blah blah blah blah you.

got to let my boys in. You could be the. most ded line ever. >> Yeah. >> You're getting in that [ __ ]. >> If you have confidence you can do that. >> Yeah. If you have confidence and your. boy that looks like the manager really. looks like a manager. [laughter] You're. good. >> You're honestly good. >> I'm telling you, they they told me they. told me about this manager method I. don't [laughter] know, like a month ago, and I was like, there ain't no way this. is working. >> He didn't believe. >> he saw the line. It was It was crazy. The line was crazy. >> Yeah, but you just have to have I feel. like if you have that that. >> manifestation of that image in you, you.

can literally have the whole world. You. can have whatever reality you want out. of life. >> That's true, bro. After you guys showed. it to him one time, this guy bust open. our FRONT DOOR. YO, MANAGER [laughter]. METHOD. NO WAY. YO, >> USE IT. >> WELL, now. >> we get to use it, but [laughter] we we. don't need to use it. >> Yeah, you don't need to. >> We don't need to use it. >> That's true. That's true. >> We don't need to use it. >> It's like It's [laughter] like a. >> Yo, yo, you know those guys You know. those guys that walk into like um the. big football games, the big like FIFA. games with only like a vest on, but if. you have confidence, oh, I need to be in. the back, blah, blah, blah. I've always.

wanted to do that low key. >> Like even with the tickets like a at a. music fest, oh yeah, I'm supposed to be. backstage. >> Just just walking with a ladder. >> Exactly. And you'll you're good. >> That's true. >> Yeah, that's true. Because people just. wear [ __ ] and then pretend you just walk. in. I've done that before at like. Disneyland. >> Yeah. If you just look like you know. where to go. I I've actually done that. to like skip merch lines at like every. concert I've been to. Sorry. [laughter]. >> What did you do? >> No, I just I just go to the front. I I. find someone who looks like they would. be my friend. I'll be like, "Yo, what's. good?" No way. >> Honestly, can I just like cut in line. with you? We just talked for a bit. And. they always say, "Yeah." Really? >> And then every time I do it, like I did.

with my sister one time, she was looking. at me like, >> see, confidence, charisma, that's all. you need. >> Charisma low key. >> What do you say is the most important. thing to build your confidence? cuz I. feel like you've been through all of. that. >> a lot. Yeah, a lot. >> Cuz I I saw your videos. I saw your. videos. The globe's crazy. Like the the. change is crazy. >> The change is crazy. For all the viewers. at home, I used to be 210 lbs. I was a. really big boy. >> I [laughter] thought that was AI. I'm. not going to lie. >> No, that was real. I don't real. [laughter]. >> Yo, I honestly don't remember. >> Like, when did you get fat? >> I don't think I don't think I hung out.

with like the most was when we did Muay. Thai. I think it was 180 then. Like when. I saw y'all. >> Yeah. Like like I've been through a lot. I would say the biggest thing is like. just rejection therapy. Yeah. Just that. >> Yeah. Honestly, rejection therapy. >> Get rejected from everything. Get a. million nos. You know, if you want to. talk to girls, talk to a million girls, get a million nos. If you want to make. friends, I used to like in university I. would go up with like a connect four. board in my [clears throat] notebook and. I'll go up to random people in like a in. like a table like this and now. one-on-one like table and be like, "Yo, does anyone want to play?". >> And I would get so many nos, but then.

eventually I'll get one yes. And then I. would just play Connect for with them. and I get like Instagrams. >> Wait, so you did that on purpose? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh [ __ ] What the. [ __ ] We You didn't film this. This is. just for your character building. >> Like 2019. [laughter]. >> This game actually that's just training. arc fam. >> YOU WANT TO PLAY CONNECT? THAT'S MINE. [laughter]. >> IF IT AIN'T BROKE, don't fix it. Sounds. right until you actually do the math. For most businesses, shipping is that. thing. What's it actually costing you? Because if nobody's questioning it, it's. probably costing way more than it. should. Ship Station makes switching.

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No, THAT'S WHY YOU TRAINING ON. >> THERE WAS no deeper reason. I just I. liked it and I was like, I want someone. to play with. I just find people that I. play with. >> Not for content, not for nothing, just. for. >> straight. Yeah. Wow. >> Cuz slowly and slowly become so regular. You know what I'm saying? Like you could. shock yourself and put yourself in a. really like. >> different scenario, but once you get. used to it, >> Yeah. >> regular dayto-day, f [snorts]. like nothing can scare you out. >> That's true. It's like the same like you. can't like just read a book about how to. swim. You got to actually get in the. water. Yeah. So,

>> that's true. >> How about you? >> I think confidence, >> bro. It just gets built off of like. >> being like like holding up to your word. >> So, like if you tell yourself you're. going to do something, you just don't do. it, like you're losing confidence every. day. That's true. That's true. That's. true. Accountability. Yeah. Like if you. can like if you can trust yourself that. if you say something you're going to do, you do that like over and over again. I. think that's what builds. >> confidence. Just like Yeah. Just like. >> deep belief in yourself. >> But like yeah, that character building. that you're talking about, I need to do. a little bit more of that, man. I'm scared of failure, yo. Still.

>> Yeah. Like I. >> I don't actually I don't know if I'm. scared of failure, but I hate failing. >> I'm scared of failure. That's why I. don't. >> You're kind of like Gavin then. >> Yeah. >> Like I I know what I should be doing. I. should be like going out and be talking. to people and stuff, but like at the. same time, I'm like h. >> But what's afraid of though? What are. you afraid of, man? >> I think like ego. I I would love to talk. about this. Yo, like ego. >> Is it like your own ego? No, it's like. well I think when a lot of people look. up to you, you just expect to not fail. that much because of how like you're. you're looked at from like a. >> and you're putting yourself Yeah. You're.

putting on social media too. >> The thing is like what I'm starting to. realize is a lot of people look up to. people that fail. So like. Yeah. It's just that thing where like. you want to be someone like the role. model, like the idol that doesn't fail. >> and I think that's no 100%. That [ __ ]. don't exist. >> I don't want to fail in public. Like. that sucks. Like you have like 50k is a. lot of people. 100k is way more. You. know what I mean? I don't want to fail. in front of that much people. >> No, but then what? You know what I'm. saying? Like. that's why I'm learning. You know, we. get around to that eventually.

>> Let's go Connect Force. [laughter]. >> I'll get back to you in 2 months, man, and I'll [laughter] be a professional. Connect for player. >> Bro, I don't think I don't think fearing. failure is a bad thing cuz I fear. failure, but I don't think it's a bad. thing. I think I I fear failure so much. to where I know I won't fail. >> You know what I mean? I won't allow. myself to fail. >> What's your thought process by that? Like my thought processes, well, like. for example, when I was a kid, I I was. always terrified of being homeless. >> Homeless. >> Like like no real reason, but I would. see homeless [clears throat] people and.

I would feel terrible and I I never want. that to be me. >> I was so scared of being like homeless. But like I like I had a home and. everything. >> But I just knew that if I had that. picture in my mind of that failure, it. just wouldn't happen cuz I would just be. like, "No, I'm never going to allow that. to happen.". >> Yeah. >> I I can't see the other side. I have to. look only one way because if I let. myself even imagine it a little bit. >> creates a different reality in my mind. Like [clears throat]. >> I I personally like make myself in a. delusion. >> and I put myself in such a delusion it.

becomes real. >> I can also relate to that. >> It's like faith though it cuz some. people call it delusion, some people. call it manifestation, some people call. it faith, right? If you have so much. strong beliefs in something, you're. going to make it happen regardless. Like. that's that your life will turn out that. even subconsciously. >> or unconsciously. >> Everything you think they can say like. does manifest, you know? >> Yeah. I will say like looking back I've. said stuff I didn't even mean that that. bad. But I knew when I was saying it is. the truth. >> Even if I wasn't like actively trying to.

go there, >> it just happened. Yeah. >> And it's because it's just like I don't. know your your subconscious and reality. itself. >> it feeds. >> and then you're saying it so it's like. you know the power of tongue super. >> like you know the you know Conor. McGregor. >> he used to say all these things all the. time. They call him like mystic mac. So. every single time he was going to go. into a fight he said oh I'm going to. knock him out in the second round. >> Second round. Left hook. >> Yeah. Left hook. Literally says how it. >> Yeah. And it happens exactly how it. does. >> And he said like oh I'm going to do. this. I'm become double champ and be. blah blah blah blah. All happened. Look.

at Tom Holland. >> Tom Holland is probably the. >> That one's crazy. >> The biggest actor in the world right. now. Damn. He had back toback. He had. Odyssey and Spider-Man. Spider-Man's. like the biggest box office hit in. history. >> He called his own girlfriend. He called. Yo, every celebrity crush. That's his. fiance now. >> Yeah. And you just said it out loud, right? So the things you say out loud. >> I want to find a girl, man. [laughter]. >> Yeah. You just. >> finding her. But you have to be careful because it's. like, oh, you're going to find a girl, but you have to manifest. Oh, I need a.

good girl. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can't just say nothing. >> It's like obsession. You can ask for it, but you'll get what. you ask for. You know what I'm saying? Be more. >> detailed. Right. >> Oh, yeah. Be careful what you manifest. >> Yeah. Be careful what you manifest. >> Yeah. Oh, >> I can definitely relate with that. I. think I think Matt knows that. I could. definitely relate with that. I'm like, I'm so delusional. If there's one thing. about Winter, I've never seen someone. have so much plot armor. [laughter]. >> No, but that's the confidence. >> Tell them. >> I'm not even going to say it. If there's. one thing about, okay, like you know.

manifestation is real if you if you hang. out with Winter for one day. So like. this guy has everything going against. him. And I swear to God there like I saw. one day where it broke him and he was. like, "You know what? >> What am I even doing here?". >> It was it was for like 5 minutes and. then all of a sudden it was right back. to being like, "Oh no, I got it." Like. it'll happen eventually. I'm 10 10k in. debt. I'm doing whatever. >> It's going to work out. Like it's too. early for God to like to see me fail. Like it's JUST TOO EARLY. NO, NO. [laughter] I THOUGHT I THOUGHT.

ABOUT SO, WE WERE in the Philippines. This was mine. This is the craziest [ __ ]. I've ever This is the craziest [ __ ] I've. ever heard Carlo say. We were driving in. the Philippines and his uh what do you. call this? His mom was telling him not. to point because in the Philippines. there's a superstition where you're not. supposed to point because that might be. a ghost and then it might like bite you. or like a bad spiral. That's why. Filipinos when we point we go. >> Yeah. Did you notice that? >> Cuz we can't point. That's the reason. trigger a ghost. Yeah. So his mom goes, his mom goes, "Oh, you can't point.".

He's like, and then I'm like, "Yo, what. do you say?" He's like, "Uh, oh, you. think God's going to let me die from a. ghost OR SOMETHING [laughter] LIKE. THAT?" I'M LIKE, "WHAT THE FUCK?". >> So real. Yo, look, I always think like. this. I walk in the room as if God sent. me there himself. >> Yes, he did. >> Yes, he did, though. >> Everything in your life that led up to. this moment, you came here for a reason. You think he's going to take you out for. a reason? No. Only happens. >> You think I'm going to die right now? >> God sent me. >> Okay, that's kind [laughter] of that's.

OD. >> It's not OD THOUGH. >> I'M GOING TO DIE RIGHT NOW. >> It's not [laughter]. >> people who knows that's lowkey not even. OD. >> It's just it's just like you just have. to be that like strong of faith. Like, yo, you could do anything you want in. the world. You can make it happen as. long as you believe you can. And it. does. And that's how all of these people. do it. Yeah. Do do you did you guys have. dreams before like you guys went into. this content creation? Like dreams of. what you were in the future or any just. weird dreams in general 100%. >> Cuz we talk about dreams a lot and we're. like yo are those messages like what.

could this one be? >> Oh shoot. Oh shoot. Have you guys ever. dreamt like the future. >> kind of and like when it when it happens. it feels like déja vu because you've. dreamt it before in the past. >> Yes. >> You guys have Okay. >> That means it's a check. You got that? You got that? >> Yes. Yes. Bro, I Well, I asked a lot of. people that they said they they say no. M NPC. >> YO, THAT'S [laughter] WHAT I'M SAYING. IN THEORY, DEAD ASS. I THINK THERE'S. ACTUALLY NPCs in. >> if you can't remember. Actual NPCs. >> Real life NPCs. >> No, there's like real life people that. aren't [laughter] real. They're just. like extras, man.

>> I will say this, Toronto has a good. looking crowd of NPCs. Like [laughter]. like there's some people in LA that are. like they got the bad feel like they got. a bad default there. But like here in. Toronto, there's some good-looking MPC. [laughter]. >> I'm so sorry, LA people. on behalf of Mac. >> No, no. LA LA is different. We can talk. about that later. LA is different. >> LA's got more people than Canada. >> Does it? Huh? >> Yeah. Like, no. So, sorry. California. California has more people in Canada. >> Oh, yeah. That makes sense. California's. pretty big though.

>> No, but sizewise. >> Like size wise. >> Yeah, cuz in Canada we only stay. on Calgary, right? >> That's where everybody's at. >> But even thinking about our entire. country is not even more than this one. state. >> That's crazy. I know. >> It's wild. There must be some hidden. secrets and [ __ ] there, too. >> Yeah, cuz that's why they have more. NPCs. >> So, have you ever had like uh prophetic. dreams or something? >> Almost predicted. Crazy deja vu. >> Predicted? I don't know if I have any. predicted like I I just have freaky. ones. Like like sometimes I. >> like what are the freaky ones? >> Like what type of freaky [sighs].

type? [laughter]. >> I thought I knew exactly what type of. freak he's talking [laughter] about. >> Are we getting into the scary dreams? >> Scary dreams. Scary dreams. Okay. Oh my. No. Like, okay. Do you guys ever see. demons in your dreams? >> Yeah. Right. >> I had like sleep paralysis before. >> Okay. Cuz I've had sleep paralysis. demons. >> Have you had sleep? >> I've never. So, yeah. This is new for. me. No, this is [laughter] NPC. >> No, bro. I'm just different. The demons. don't even launch. >> They don't even launch.

>> Demons are like in your dream. They're. like, [laughter]. >> "Fuck this guy.". >> What do you guys see? What do you guys. see when you see demons? >> It's like shadow. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz it's not like it's not. like a demon. It's just like a feeling. >> Yeah. It's a feeling feeling of like. uneasiness and [clears throat] dread and. like. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> This guy can't relate. >> But it's like whatever like like for me. >> whenever I have it I've only had it like. a handful of times, but whenever I had. it, it's because I'm going through.

something in my life and that demon is a. representation of that. So one time it. was like a a huge fear. >> and that fear was of death and one time. it was a huge fear and that fear was a. failure cuz I was making a lot of bad. life decisions at the time. >> It's really weird because you would be. initially thinking oh that's actually. really scary because demons are here. They might try and take my soul. whatever. >> But on the other end that actually might. be a sign from God, the universe, whatever. >> to scare you and put you back on track. Yeah. And every time I've actually had.

that, it actually did put me back on. track, which is actually really. interesting. >> Yeah. >> Cuz if you think about it, they say too, um, a robber doesn't rob an empty house. >> So if you have a lot, that's worth of. value. So God has plans for you, right? [laughter]. >> I can't relate. [laughter]. >> You're not a No, I thought that was I. thought that was STARTING. [laughter]. to empty house. That's what I meant. >> Robber don't want your dreams.

[laughter]. >> Well, I don't WANT TO ROB ME. [laughter]. >> I HAVE DREAMS. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> No, but yeah, that that's what happens. Like you see a lot of people um they. face demons on their rise or they face. demons at like the times they could. really really fall because that's the. time when you know the enemy wants to. attack. It's not when like [ __ ] they're. doing the bad already. It's when they.

want to be good and they could slip up. That's when the enemy wants to attack, you know? >> Talk to me more about like the sleep. paralysis, though, cuz I I know the gist. of it is that you can't you can't move. You like you're you're conscious and. you're awake, but your body's asleep. Yeah. >> But you like you have you have a feeling. there's like a shadow. Like what else? I. I heard this one thing like it feels. like someone's sitting on your chest. >> Yeah. There's a lot. >> You can't get up. You can't move at all. It's weird. >> I feel like I'll just will it. Like I I. sound very like you're literally. paralyzed. Like you're actually. paralyzed. >> Like your mom could come in the room and.

like you wouldn't even see like. >> she would look at you like trying to. escape it, but like. >> you couldn't get out. >> Actually look at your mom. Like you. looking at me like I like I'll be like. this. But like in MY HEAD I'M LIKE I. want to move. It's it's scary bro. >> You can actually put yourself in sleeper. if you tried. >> Have you guys ever lucid Ohid? Cuz I can lucid dream. >> Yes. But yeah, NPC. [laughter].

>> YO, what you saying? >> No, no, no. I don't I don't lose a dream. either. I don't You don't lose a dream? I don't dream. >> If if you have a sleep paralysis, it's. like a a step to lucid dream. >> Yeah. Yeah, I I did hear that. Yeah, I. did hear that. >> So, they say this what you do if you. want to put yourself in sleep paralysis. or like go into what they call the. astral world, actual projection. Cuz. that's what they say is when you go into. sleep paralysis, you're like on the way. to astral projection because your body. like your spirit wants to come out of. the body into that other realm, right? >> So what you're supposed to do if you. wake up and you're still like half.

awake, half asleep, >> if you go right back to bed and you're. conscious that you're trying to sleep. and you keep that in your mind when. you're sleeping or if you put like a. trigger, let's say your trigger is your. phone in your hand. >> and then you feel it. So when you go to. bed and you're asleep and you squeeze, you can feel something's there. That's. your trigger like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm in bed. right now. I'm not sleeping.". >> Crazy. >> Your mind will wake up, but your body. will stay asleep. And then what happens. is your mind either, this is what people. think is like just creates this reality.

of what you could see outside or you. actually go there and this is a. different realm and you're seeing things. that already exist. You're just outside. of the regular physical manifestation of. yourself. >> That's why I quit dreaming, bro. Too. many sweats. [laughter]. >> Too many sweats, bro. >> Holy [ __ ] Found that [ __ ] out. No, I I. knew I could do that. I just didn't know. what I was [laughter] doing. >> It gets scary, too, cuz people say they. actual project. And you know how people. mysteriously die in their sleep?

>> What? >> Yeah, it happens a lot. You don't know. that. People die. Michael Jackson. >> Yeah, people die in their sleep. >> Mysteriously, too. Like nothing's wrong. physically with them. It's just. >> uh I had my ex like actually she had. like a friend that passed away like. Yeah. Nothing was wrong with her. Sleeping. Yeah. Sleeping. >> What the? >> Yeah. Crazy. But if you look into it, this is a real thing. And people, this. is like a theory, but people say, "Oh, sometimes they accidentally go into the. astral world, astral projection world, and they lose their thread." So when you.

when you leave, >> Wow. There's like an invisible like. thread that connects to you and your. body and people that get possessed when. they sleep is when a demon goes into. their body and they're out of it. >> Wow. >> Oh no. >> Yeah. That's what people say. >> What if what if our lucid dream demons. is like those lost souls trying to get. back into a body? >> Probably is. >> Probably is. >> Yeah. Cuz they're trying to find. >> lost. You can never lucid dream ever, bro. >> I'm sorry. Lucid dreaming is one of the. best you.

>> I mean Yeah. Mine cuz I just fly around, >> bro. Oh my god. I'm flying around. because you just fly around but it. actually feels like you're like I would. I would fly out. >> I'm like Superman, bro. Like you can. like literally go. >> How do you fly? >> No, you just think about No, no, but. like do you go like this? >> I go like this. >> Do you go like this? >> Yeah, I do that. [laughter]. >> Hey, arms down. Arms down. Arms down. >> No, no. Cuz I thought about it cuz I. never been to like lucid dream. I'm. like, would I flap? Like would I You. know what I mean? Would I like. >> I think it's kind of like arms down like.

kind of arm because Superman flies like. this but I never got I was like why did. I fly like that? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now you leave with the like the face, bro. It's like. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> That's tough. That's tough. And you're. just going around. >> Yo, but they say too if you lucid dream. and you're in the astral world and your. homie does it too. Apparently time is. there you can meet up. >> Yeah. Y'all freaky. >> And you can No. No. And you guys you. guys would know Dream map supposedly. >> Yeah. So, let's say let's say like. >> let's talk about the map cuz I love my. map. >> and then um like one dream you had you.

you put up like 10 fingers like this. >> and then I like wave back at you. I'll. remember I'll ask you like yo what did I. do in your dream like oh I remember you. did this even though I didn't tell them. >> Uhhuh. Yeah. >> way. >> Yo, you can live. >> Y'all did that? >> No. No. Okay. [laughter] I know I know. people that have people that have those. >> but they they swear on it though. They. swear. But these are people that. actually practice the [ __ ] They do like. the spoon technique. They have like a. spoon and a teacup and then like when. they fall asleep the spoon will like. fall into the teacup and make a noise. >> Yeah. >> And then that's what wakes them up.

>> That's some get out [ __ ]. >> Yeah. >> He'll tell me. He'll tell me like, "Oh, you'll know I astrop project because I. grew this new mole." Boom. And he'll. come back with the mole. >> Yo, I've done I've done that with this. mole actually. >> What? What? >> Remember I told you one time on the. podcast? >> What do you mean? >> When that out of nowhere. Out of. nowhere. This is a long time ago. This. is like 2022 maybe. >> Yeah. >> But I grew this mole out of nowhere, bro. >> See? What do you mean you grew it? >> Like I don't know what just popped up. >> Like you grew it or it popped up? >> You just popped up. >> I feel like I'm getting pranked. >> No. No. [laughter]. >> There ain't no way this is real, bro. You. >> said I grew it. Like you looked at it.

and I'm like, >> we talking about manifestation a little. too [laughter] hard, bro. You growing. [ __ ]. >> Yo, dead ass. I was so deep into this. [ __ ] I was really researching it and. and trying to like see, okay, how how do. I enter like my best self? I would lucid. dream. This is how I know all this. stuff. I would lucid dream and imagine. like, okay, my life would be like this. when I wake up and boom, like things. start lining up and start changing. >> I'm telling you, dreams are messages, fam. You ever do you ever get ones from. like Cuz I I've had a friend that was.

going on an airplane, but then his mom. was literally getting prophetic dreams. of him dying on this airplane. And he. was like, the mom was like, "Okay, my. son like just please for me don't go on. this flight to wherever you're going.". He didn't go on that flight. Later on, two days in the news, that plane. actually crashed. And that's prophetic. That's like family. That's what I mean. So, it's like, >> I don't know. Do you have that with your. friends? You have that with your family? >> Crazy. >> My mom always knows when I get sick. Like, I couldn't not even tell her. I.

could be in Cuba. I get like stomach. sickness. Son, are you okay? And then. I'll be like, you mom, I'm actually very. sick. Like, how'd you know? That's my. mom. You know what I mean? >> You guys have homie intuition yet? >> Yeah. Ah, >> homie intuition. like like you just you. just like know what you guys are. thinking about or like I had that with. Josh sometimes. I'm not going to lie. >> Like a like a six sense I don't think. so. But I think we know each other. enough that like there's a lot of things. that we can say without actually saying. it but like a six sense not yet. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> I I was thinking like lucid dreaming in. a whole different way. Like the flying.

is cool but like. >> y'all ever like dream like a bad [ __ ]. AND [laughter]. that's faking. >> I knew that was coming. freaking. [laughter] after. No, man. I I believe. in the Well, I actually don't, but I. feel like very naive in like what what. you guys are talking about with like the. >> thinking or like seeing the future and. bro, I'm a hopeless romantic. I love. like putting myself in there like, "Oh, maybe this is real. That would be. awesome." I think being like a super. overthinker like the way I am, super. logical. Yeah.

>> Um, it is it is funny and I think. there's going to be an audience that. relates to. >> but then there's like those freaky. dreams [laughter] and I'm like, "Oh, PLEASE HAVE THAT HAPPENED TO ME.". >> Gooner dream. [laughter]. >> Yeah, we can move. We can move past. that. But I knew that's what I want to. talk about. >> What if What if you woke up the next day. and then you met your the girl in your. dream in real life? >> Yeah, I was going to say I had dreams. like that before. >> because you can actually manifest a girl. in your life if you really wanted to. And like um there's something called. like beauty voodoo where you tell.

yourself in the mirror every day you're. pretty. You're pretty. I did that. >> You did that? >> I did that. I did that. >> How for how [ __ ] it works? >> NO. NO. NO. [laughter]. That's it. >> No. I saw a video of winter like like 2. years ago. It came up on my real page. yesterday. I told him about it. I was. like, >> "How did this [laughter]. >> happening? How did this happen from. this?". >> It was a lot of screen real estate. >> Okay. Yeah. Tell tell me how you did it. cuz. >> No, no, no. I I've done it my whole. life, >> okay? >> I used to have [ __ ] terrible acne. Most terrible acne ever. I used to like.

every time I would look at one, this is. so terrible. Another one would pop up. Eventually I I learned about this. actually. >> Every single morning I would look in the. mirror. I'm beautiful. I'm worth it. You. will have clear skin. I'm beautiful. I'm. worth it. You will have clear skin. I. would look myself in the eyes until I. believed it. Like one day I did it for. like an hour. >> Like I I did it for like an hour like. crying until I didn't cry. I was like, "I'm beautiful. I'm worth it. I will. have clear skin." And literally in like. a month or something, it like cleared up. because I kept saying it every day. I. kept saying it every day. Same thing. when I quit my job last year. I would.

look myself in the mirror. You have no. idea what the [ __ ] you're doing, but. you're going to figure it out. You have. no idea what the [ __ ] you're doing, but. you're going to figure it out. You are. worth it. You are beautiful. You know, you're going to make it work. Every. single day on this one show that me and. Mac were on. We were on this game show, grand prize, $10,000. Every single. morning, I would play 10 bands by Drake. because the grand prize was $10,000. And. I would sing that song and I look at. myself in the mirror every morning. Eventually, everyone was like, "Can you. stop playing that song?" I'm like, "No, >> you're going to get in the way of what. I'm trying to do.". >> And guess who won?

>> There there's a lot of things that like. don't convince me that are real. But. like proof. >> Yeah. >> Oh, it's hard not to go against. [laughter] It's hard not to go against. proof. And I'm telling you right now, I. should have WON THAT GAME SHOW. [laughter]. And. >> he's still salty. Voodoo, fam. Use. Voodoo. >> No. Winter winning and like the glow up. that Winter's had. And also just like. bro there's like a lot of things that. could have went south and he just like. has unbelievable faith like that's. actual proof. >> Yeah. I'd love to see you have faith. >> Yeah. Like that like I I do believe in. like some of that some of that stuff and.

like the the selft talk like the the. pretty. >> holy [clears throat] [ __ ] like that that. must be real. >> Mhm. >> Ever do that? Do you guys. >> I I literally had a mantra. >> Yeah. I used to I used to say that even. when before I started the podcast I used. to say you're calm, you're confident, you're creative. >> Yeah. >> You will achieve it all. It's literally. still in my bathroom in my parents crib. on the shower. Like it's like a shower. glass. >> It's still there with a smiley face. >> Wow. >> And I used to say that every single day. >> So you're supposed to apparently like if. you want to manifest something like the.

best way, you're supposed to say it. three times. Six times and then nine. times and then three times in the. morning, six times during the day, and. nine times at night. >> Is there any reason why for the numbers? >> So 369 is like the key to the universe. It's like Nicola Tesla like he um hit. all these. >> people call it like magic. >> but it's really just it's really just. vibrations. You know how everything's. like, "Oh, you can listen to 432 Hz. vibration. It heals you, whatever.". Right? >> So, in the same way, life is math,

>> right? Life is low-key numbers and. vibrations and frequency. And Nicholas. Tesla had a crazy famous quote. He said, "Once you understand life and the world, your reality is vibrations and. frequency. You'll understand the keys to. the universe.". >> Damn, >> that's crazy. >> Yeah, that's crazy. >> I got a [ __ ] voice. [laughter]. That's how crazy that was. >> Yo, I like that. I want to do that. Is. that what circle 369? I can do that. Yeah, try it. >> Is that what the circle like the, you. know, like the universe circle?

>> It's a Fibonacci sequence. Yeah. Very. similar to that. It ties into that. So, um, this Fibonacci sequence, it actually. shows up in like snails, um, in plants. and like literal freaking like cells. >> Yeah. Cells. Literally cells. It'll have the same spiral. It's the. same like ratio. They call the Fibonacci. sequence. Yeah, >> it's like the perfect ratio. Like everything's made of that. >> Yeah. Try it for 2 months. Let's see. >> No, I I really like stuff like that cuz. like what's what's the worst that's. going to happen? Like nothing. >> But like the best thing that can happen.

like you you put some good like positive. selft talk into become more attractive. >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. >> Yeah. He goes, "Yeah, what's the. attractive theory? Did you have one?". [laughter]. >> Oh, I have some. >> Yeah. Yeah. What's the attractive. theory? What is that? Okay. >> It's It's not like It's not like. theories necessarily. It's just it's. just pretty much science to attraction. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> All right. So, >> what is that? Let me break some down for. you. >> Science to attraction. >> Science. Just look. The science. [laughter]. >> Yo, cuz not everything.

>> Just look good. >> So, okay. [laughter] So, this is this is. from like a a psychology. She studied. like psychology and pretty much the dark. arts of attraction. >> God damn. >> Crazy [ __ ]. >> What do you mean dark arts of. attraction? >> You could use it to, you know, manipulate things different ways. I feel. like I know some people who who know. that this dark art well. I feel like I. [laughter] know some people in my in my. life. I feel like you know some people. >> Yeah. >> Talk to me about this dark art because I. would [laughter] love to love. >> So um actually this is something I used. to do a lot but I don't do it no more. I.

don't do it like that. Like. >> this [laughter] it's dangerous. See this. [ __ ] is dangerous. It is dangerous. >> I I I used to read books like this. I. used to read like oh um 48 Laws of. Power. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> Rules of Attraction. All. >> of all that [ __ ] still got the dark. hold on it, man. [laughter] That's dope. I was just curious though. I was just. curious cuz I'm like learning. everything. Whatever I can get my hands. on and especially like people, that's. something you really want to know, right? >> So, one of the things you could do to. make somebody like attracted to you is. you kind of have to like you prompt a. vision in their head. If I can give you.

an idea and you make it your reality. even for a second, >> I already got you're there. >> You know what I'm saying? And that's how. hypnosis works, too. This is it's it's. like it's dark and you shouldn't use it, especially if you're, you know, have. malicious intent. >> But some people just honestly do it. naturally. >> Like they don't intentionally do it. So. one of the things is like if you're. really good at flirting and you say, "Oh, I like your smile." Instead of. saying, "Oh, I like your smile." You. would say, "Oh, I like how you smile. when you see me.". >> Mhm. >> Because what's that prompting?

>> It's going to trigger like. >> So whenever you see me, >> you smile. >> Okay. It's like small details. Yeah. And. then because because she knows that you. like it, when she sees you, she's going. to smile. >> She's going to do it. Exactly. It's like. um. >> conditioning. What is that? >> Conditioning. Yeah. Conditioning. You're. just conditioning your girl. That's. exactly. >> You're just [laughter]. crazy. >> No, but people do that actually. >> Yeah. Yeah. People do that. >> This is game that goes on every game. >> This is like forbidden game. >> It's forbidden game forbidden game. >> Yo. Yeah. This is all forbidden. Like. another one. I told Gavin this before. >> If you want people to like go with what.

you're talking about, >> you go like this. >> I got you. I got you hooked. Cuz listen, when I go like this and I get you. nodding your head with me, >> like you're starting to you're starting. to agree with me. You know what I'm. saying? Cuz physically whenever you do. this, you're usually agreeing. So if I. get you in a sequence like this and. we're doing it [clears throat] together, >> I got you. >> Holy, that's crazy. >> Because like when you WERE DOING THAT, LIKE, [laughter]. BRO, MY HEAD'S MY HEAD'S GENUINELY going. like this. Like I don't know if it's. showing up here, but I imagine.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Like you get into it, right? You get into it. >> Like I'm Yeah. a lot of these these. secrets. >> Yeah. So, if you want to if you want to. tell if somebody's like using it on. YouTube, you can pay attention, right? So, um some things people will like copy. how you how you sit. >> or how you um even just your mannerism. So, let's say somebody always goes like. this, right? >> If you start doing that and they they. see you, they intent or they like. subconsciously love. >> um people that mirror them. >> Yeah. >> Oh, mirroring. Yeah. Mirroring is one.

thing, too. >> We're the same. We do the same things. Yeah. >> Got [laughter] your ass. >> That's true though. That's true. >> Yeah. Yeah. Even too um this. psychologist she was saying people with. the same name or similar names even just. syllables. >> Mhm. >> So if like a girl's name is close to. Gavin in syllables, >> she'll like saying your name because it. matches hers. >> And cuz when you're a kid, the first. thing we learn to love and write and. actually use English is our own name.

That's the first thing we learn to write. or know or say. >> So if it's that first thing and it. brings us to our childhood and. >> nostalgia actually just nostalgia trip. >> Yeah. You're kind of playing with that. Max's like that's why that girl. >> So if you have a celebrity crush, you. should legally change your name. >> to whatever it is but with the same. syllables, same same letters, whatever. When you meet her, you already have a. better chance. >> You have a better chance. >> I'm going to need to get that I'm going. to need to get that handbook. >> Mac is just [laughter] Mac. One. syllable. Yeah.

>> Oh yeah. All right. So, this one's. interesting. She said, um, pretty much. you don't. >> you don't attract people initially. That's what she says. She said you don't. attract people initially. >> What real attraction is, especially the. one that that lasts, is when you carry a. trait that they have as well, but they. hold back. >> They hold back. >> So, let's say you're a very like silly. person, right? >> But you hold that back because you want. to I don't know, you're naturally like. more serious. If you're with somebody.

that's silly, you'll really be attracted. to that because like you'll be able to. let it out if you're if that's who you. are. Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So, in the. same sense, if you carry a trait that. she's not I don't know, she doesn't. necessarily show, but she she is like. that in the inside, >> she'll be more attractive. >> If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Sounds. right until you actually do the math. For most businesses, shipping is that. thing. What's it actually costing you? Because if nobody's questioning it, it's. probably costing way more than it.

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60 days free at shipstation.com. with code jumpers. Ju pers. That's. shipstation.com. Codejumpers. Shipstation.com. Code jumpers. Taxes and fees apply. Damn, >> that makes sense. >> See, this is dangerous cuz you can have. a man that uses this literally for like. malicious intent and then he'll be put. into the obsession story line. Like, you. know what I mean? It's like this is. their one. Yeah. That's their one wish. You know what I mean? You're like you're. like optimizing love. >> Yeah. >> That's a thing, right? That's a thing.

So there's human nature and human nature. never changes. That's the crazy part, right? Human nature doesn't change over. thousands of years. These stories in the. Bible and like scriptures and the. Odyssey is freaking one of the oldest. stories ever in the world. It's still. the same human nature. >> Even in the kid show, you know, um the. gingerbread man's plotline was. obsession. >> Wait, what? >> So remember the gingerbread man? He's. like, I want someone to love me forever. And then he made the gingerbread girl. and then the gingerbread girl. Yeah, the. gingerbread girl ran away and then she. had to like she died at the end because.

he couldn't take it no more. >> Oh, cuz Yeah, he ran away. Remember? >> You guys don't know that. >> Yeah, fam. The whole story line was. obsession. He made it the girl he wanted. and then she went crazy, liked him so. much that he didn't like it no more. >> Okay, that's kind of wild. >> Yeah. Yeah. Watch it back. You'll you'll. find it out. >> Bro, it's scary how easy we are to read, bro. like how easy like it is to just like. get someone hooked on you. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my. Like. >> did you see the person did you see the. person in Disneyland? >> Uh the Tinker Tinker Bell guy.

>> No. >> The guy that that's dressed up and the. girl was obsessed with this character. and she kept following around that guy. in the amusement park. But this is his. job, right? So he has to entertain. But. the whole time Oh, like he was trying to. skip away from her. She he couldn't go. just because he was associated with that. character. Like people are crazy. People. like things on screens, you in person. Like it's weird. That's why going up and. having clout like you'll have these. people that are parasocial to you, know. nothing about you, but just obsessed. >> Talk about this parasocial stuff.

>> Oh, it's getting bad. >> It's getting really bad. >> Before we get off the topic, I'm going. to need that. Uh, >> all right. I'm going to need that. darkhole thing that [laughter]. every time, you'll see this. >> We going to need some of this. >> No. Okay. No, [laughter] back to the topic. though. Like parasocial. [clears throat]. >> I think Winter and I have been feeling. like a lot of that recently and like it. almost come to a point where we're like. there's no way it could get this bad. Like there's no way you like you think. we're. >> we're I just met you 5 seconds ago.

>> Like why what what's happening right. now? But there's there's it's getting. really like concerning on how like. >> hasn't gotten dangerous though? >> Dangerous. I I think we've been very. fortunate enough that we haven't had. like like really big instance instances. that like come up to mind right now. that's not doesn't put us in direct. danger but it it it has been feeling a. little bit uncomfortable. >> Okay. >> Dangerous like dangerous. No, but it. could have been but it's also like but. just to clarify like it's a blessing. You know what I mean? It's a blessing to. be in a situation.

>> That's a good problem to have. >> We're not complaining. We're not. complaining at all. We are very blessed. We're not complaining. However, when we. are at Veld and then someone is just. following us around the whole park like. right beside Mac's shoulder the whole. thing like you know like raving is like. a group activity like you go with a. group you like go to one stage another. following the entire time. >> that's it's it's a little bit creepy. it's like a little bit it's a little bit. freaky cuz you don't want to be rude and. be like hey like you know. >> um but yeah some people do have like. like that relationship or we were. getting dumplings one time I posted a.

video of us getting dumplings this one. freaked my my girl out a lot we were. getting dumplings. And then when I posted like the Tik Tok, someone commented a photo and it was. from across the street. A photo of us. eating the dumplings in the window and. then and then it was like saw you. >> Yeah. See, that's rule number one. Never. post location. That's how Pop Smoke. died. >> I I tell her that all the time. I post. it after. Always post after. Especially for a. girl. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Especially for a girl. >> And always like because like I. [clears throat] don't know like my. girl's from China so like there I don't.

know if the safety is different, you. know? they have a lot of like. stuff like that. So she could post and. it don't matter. >> When I saw that I was like like she was. doing it in LA. I'm like what are you. doing? >> Stop. Don't do that. >> In Asian countries it's different. because I seen like a like a challenge. Uh kids walking around in Japan versus. kids walking around here. People in. Japan will really help the kid cross. like where you going. It's so safe that. they can do that that they can take the. subway in like New York City. Nah, you. gotta be you can't be out at like 12:00.

p.m. by yourself. You know what I mean? It's dangerous. >> Yeah. You got to be smart. You gotta be. [clears throat] smart. Like, you know. your surroundings and that's just. survival skills. But it's just different. in social media now cuz everything is. just shared. >> Yeah. >> I have to sneeze. >> It's okay. It's okay. Go ahead. >> Bless you. Bless you. It is definitely like a big It is It is. a blessing especially to the fact that. so many people feel like we are good. enough people to come up to and like. feel like they can share that. comfortable space with us. >> It does get to a point though like when.

like it's it's also just our lives. M. >> um and like we don't want to be like the. [ __ ] that's like [laughter]. >> okay okay what if somebody came up to. you and she was like completely obsessed. with you but that obviously would weird. you out but she was the girl from your. dream that you were in love with. >> that changes the game. See, pick and. choose. Pick and choose. [laughter]. >> Pick and choose. >> She's like, she's like the baddy you had. in your dream. >> I'll see the baddy in my dream tonight.

But like [laughter] in that in in that. moment right there since that's like my. real life, >> bro. I I have like I have an issue. Like. if if she was like really obsessed like. I I can't. >> She's overly going. >> Yeah. No. >> What if What if she came up and she's. like, "Mack, I'm like your biggest fan.". >> Oh my god. [laughter] Okay. >> Okay. You've seen this before. when I did that before. >> But that's what people say, right? Like. people always want something that they. can't get. Yeah. So if it's too easy or. if it's cuz honestly even with goals and. stuff when goals seem too easy, I like.

lose. >> I don't know like. >> care for him like oh it's like you could. just do that. You know what I'm saying? But why do you think we're so like. hardwired to want what we don't got? >> I think there's a lot of people that. aren't hardwired like that. I think in. this house or like this space right now, all of us are. And. >> I think it is a blessing to want to make. your life challenging because there's. only like. >> there's only a sense of accomplishment. and like achievement when. >> you feel like you earned it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> If there's no earning, you're just given.

everything, you don't like what what is. it what is it worth or whatever. You. know what I mean? So, I think maybe the. same thing kind of goes for dating as. well. >> Um I know what's good though. Like we we. be making like these jokes and stuff. like if someone that was good came up. like bro I I'll I'll trade whatever I'm. doing right now for for that. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, but like I was talking about like. obsession like like something that's. like a fan and it's like parasocial and. stuff. I feel like I I don't want to I. don't want to be looked up as this like. thing that they're putting me up to this. massive standard and I feel like I have. to like deliver that because of whatever.

they have in their head. >> Um, but yeah. What What about you guys? Why Why do you think. >> we chase No. Why do you think we chase. things that like are hard? >> Yo, it's cuz like it's worth it. You. know what I'm saying? Like if I'm going. to put time into something that. everybody can get, I'm like, "Ah, what. the fuck?" Like, who cares? You know. what I'm saying? >> And yeah, >> I I I see life as a video game. sometimes. >> You know, you know those games where. it's like a RPG and you collect items. and [ __ ]. >> Yo, [snorts] I want the skin that nobody. can get. You know what I'm saying? I. want like the item that like you have to. do all of these objectives to get and.

then like. >> it actually means something. Yeah. cuz. in my life if I'm collecting things. around me that let's say like position. um job whatever like partner these. things that I want in my life mean. something to me for a reason and. everybody's is different. >> right like and that that comes from like. how you're grown up and what you really. care about your family upbringing. >> and I don't know the more rare it could. be for me the more valuable it is. >> and only you will understand what rarity. means. >> it's like subjective to you.

>> but then there's The other side is like, okay, if you have all the cheat codes, you have everything you want, then it's. like life gets boring. That's why you. have to keep chasing the [ __ ] that you. like. That's why like people in. Hollywood are so weird because, yo, they're millionaires, billionaires. [clears throat] Nothing gets them like. excited no more. That's why they got to. do the weird [ __ ] That's why you hear. all the the big like CEOs. Yo, Jeffrey. Epste, you know what I mean? He's doing. the weird [ __ ] cuz that's the only thing. that can actually get him excited. I. mean, I would never want to get to that. point. You know what I mean? Yeah. >> I think Benadon had a joke about Drake.

when he was on stream. He was like, "Look at this guy. He don't even get. excited about a million dollars.". >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. >> Feel like a million dollar. >> Who the [ __ ] wants to feel like that? >> Exactly. [laughter]. >> It's true. >> It's true. >> House lobby. >> Pan house lobby. Yeah. That's exactly. it. >> You have to stay grateful for things. You know what I'm saying? And I I think. that's one thing I always like try to. stick with. >> How do you guys teach your guys' like. kids that then? Cuz one day when we're. all like super successful and you have. like you have everything to give to your. kids or whatever, how do you keep them. humble or how do you keep them hungry. for success?

>> I think we talked about this earlier. today. Yeah. We were like, >> how do you keep them hungry? >> How do you how would you do? >> We were having a discourse. I I want to. see what you got to say first. >> Okay. >> I feel like I just wouldn't give them as. much. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I. wouldn't give them as much. >> I like what Shaq does because he he. gives his he stays at his real estate, you know? I mean, the big one and then. he gives his kids a little medium house. You know what I mean? Cuz you got to. work your your way up there. Yeah. >> Yeah. I like that. Right. Cuz what. happens is character over everything, fam. If you you going to have the the. fanciest [ __ ] in the world, if you have. [ __ ] character, I don't even [ __ ] with.

you. >> You know what I'm saying? Like it. doesn't mean nothing to me if your if. your character is not actually cool. >> or like worth value in my eyes. So. >> I if I have a a son and like I have so. much to give to him, I feel like that. would be a curse instead of a blessing. >> Mhm. >> So I'll give just enough. You know what. I'm saying? or whatever he needs to be. successful. Or like, bro, when I was. younger, I had nothing. >> I had nothing. And I feel like the only. reason I was hungry and really tried to. do everything the best I could was.

because I was like literally like. scrging at dirt. Like, >> you can't buy that dog. >> Can't buy that dog. And you. >> like fabricating that struggle though. would be hard. >> You know what I mean? Like fabricating. like I I think all of us kind of like. grew up in the same same spot. Like the. reason why we want it so bad or the. reason why we're so passionate and. driven to like be successful and make it. is because of how we like kind of were. grown up. >> If you're if you're kid or whatever, like you're like Shaq and you have. everything and they know that they're. like being put through the test but it's.

for like a reason because they want to. be better and not because we need it. >> Yeah. >> Like when I'm looking at my parents back. then I'm like, "Bro, I need to make it.". >> Like I need to make it. They're not. faking it or anything like that. Like. >> like it's either we make it or we don't. make it. >> Yeah. They took the biggest risk. Um, how do you how do you like curate an. environment for your child so that they. get that type of hunger without the. like, oh, it's good for you. I'm I'm. telling you, you need to go through it. It's good for you. See, it's hard. It's. hard because circum circumstantially the.

reason I would say I I was like so. hungry is because I never got. validation. >> Never got valid for anything in my life. >> Damn. Chip on your shoulder the whole. time. [laughter] Annoyed game. >> So, I I need some I need a up, you know? I need I need to like get my. [clears throat] fill of like dopamine or. whatever. I need somebody to validate. me. >> Not now, but like before when I had. nothing. Like I need to show something. And obviously I'm not going to get. anything from not doing nothing. Yeah. >> So I got to make [ __ ] work. >> I think my dad worked. So he was working. two jobs for like 18 years.

>> And I barely I didn't see him that much. >> And the times I did see him it was kind. of rough. He was like a hard guy. So I. didn't really get the oh I'm proud of. you all the time. You know what I'm. saying? But because of that, I was. chasing it. >> You know what I mean? But in a different. sense, if we're successful and we have. kids, >> you want, you know, you want to give. that love. And I don't think I would. hold that back at all. >> But you want to raise a soft baby, [laughter]. >> soft guy. Cuz it's like you're telling. him proud, you're proud, you're proud, you're proud, you're proud. Then it's. like the more you hear it, it's like. less valuable.

>> Yeah. I I was Yeah. I was I was teaching. I was trying to like tell Gavin that. too. He's like your your word means so. much, especially when it's scarce. Mhm. >> So if I tell you all the time like, "Yo, you're you're the coolest guy ever.". Every day, "Oh, you're the coolest guy.". >> And then I don't say it like, "Okay, it. doesn't mean anything." But if like I. never say [ __ ] to you and I one day I. say like, "Yo, you're mad cool, fam.". >> Battle hits. >> Yeah. >> Battle hits, >> you know? >> That's true. >> It's that balance, man. >> It is balance. >> And like it's crazy that like that's. something that's not like been tapped.

into you enough or like talked about, but I think that's what's going to make. it like super fun like eventually. Like. >> Mhm. >> It it it does take a curated like crazy. blend. All of us have like way different. childhoods, but I can feel it like. there's every there's hunger here. >> There's like a lot of different ways to. curate. >> You can't teach that. That's literally. come up. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. You can't teach it. That's the. >> You can't It's environmental. [laughter]. >> You can't teach and like fabricate an. environment. Why Why does my voice keep. cracking? My voice keeping [laughter] it. that way. >> It's okay. I don't. >> You can't teach or force or fabricate an.

environment, right? But you can also. teach lessons and say. >> the the situation that we're in is a. privilege. You know, it's not a right. >> Yeah. >> You know, like you don't have the right. to treat someone like this. Like we're. privileged to be in this situation cuz. kids minds is like very moldable. Whatever you tell them, whatever you. make them believe, whatever you give. them is what they will take in life. Like those early years are super. important. I'm not a parent. You know. what I mean? I'm parents is the hardest. job in the world. But I'm just saying. from all the things that I've seen and. what I've read and and all the studies,

whatever, >> that's probably the most important thing. cuz you can't like take away privilege, you know, like we work hard to give our. kids privilege, >> but it's also understanding that you. don't have the right to treat someone. else different just because you've been. blessed this. It's kind of like. Spider-Man. It's like with great power. comes great responsibility. >> Great responsibility. >> Yeah. >> Damn, that's true. >> Yeah. >> I was I was like marinating on that. thought. [laughter]. >> You cooked on that. He couldn't tell. He. did think about it for a while, but he. and then and then I finally talk and I. go, [laughter].

>> "Oh my god, that was good though.". Fumble under the bright lights. >> Yo, so so me and Gavin, we have this. thing. We have a Whoever has a kid. first, we get to we get to name the. middle name. >> What? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But it has to be like something cool. >> Okay. Okay. >> Do each other dirty? >> No. I was going to go Obsidian. >> Obsidian. >> That's hard. >> NO, IT'S NOT. >> THAT'S HARD. >> OBSIDIAN IS HARD. It's like silly. It's. silly, but it's still hard. >> Like this. >> No. No. >> That's actually hard, dog. >> Bro, no one's named No one's named. Obsidian. That's why I said.

>> Zeus. Obsidian. Ruda. >> No. >> Okay, hold on. [laughter]. >> Zeus. >> You're not naming your kid a hard name. like that. That's crazy. >> I mean, I. go I want to name my kid Zuko. >> Zuko is pretty det. >> I want to name myself Zuko. >> Okay, but but Matt gets to pick the the. middle name. >> Okay. What would you name my kid's. middle name? >> Oh, that'd be crazy. I have to think. Well, I would I'll do you nicely though. I'll do you nicely. Like you nicely, [laughter] but it's got to be like kind. of troll at the same time, you know? >> It's got to be like kind of troll but.

still hard. [laughter]. >> I'm not troll. >> Whatever you do name your kid though, that also does manifest too. >> IT DOES. >> IT DOES. I WAS LITERALLY GOING TO SAY. THAT. >> you're like like no matter what I'm not. naming my kid somewhere like if you. troll or whatever like like No, no, no. Like it could be funny, but it has to be. something positive. >> at the very least. Like Obsidian is like. what? Like the hardest rock or whatever. It's solid. >> It means something. [laughter]. >> I'm just making an argument. I'm just. making an argument. >> No, cuz Gavin's such a Gavin to me. You.

know what I mean? Mac is such a Mac. >> Yeah, Mac is a Mac. >> Yeah, Mac. Mac doesn't look like a Dave. >> Yeah, I was I was supposed to be Brian. >> I can see a Brian. >> I can see Brian, but I like Mac way. more. >> I don't see Brian. >> No, but yo, I'm telling you your name. That's why Michael Jordan is Michael. Jordan. He was for greatness. You know. what I mean? >> Kobe Bryant. >> Kobe Bryant. >> That's a crazy You have to do some [ __ ]. with that. [laughter]. >> If you're not great with that name, then. that sucks. >> I I was thinking about this cuz I was. rewatching all the movies. The Amazing. Spider-Man like the like the new like.

like the reboot from 2012. >> Andrew Garfield. >> Yeah. And the and the director Mark. Webb. >> Oh, that's hard. >> It's like you're destined for it. >> The Melo Ball. >> The [laughter] Ball. Yeah. >> See, IT. [ __ ] YEAH. I look lowkey demonic, fam. [laughter]. >> Damn. I should name my kid like like. sword warrior success. [laughter]. >> Maybe a username. >> Sword warrior success 69. >> I made a Xbox.

>> I [laughter] made I made an Xbox game. >> No, no, no, dude. >> How much would you trust your homies to. do things for you though? Like name your. kid? >> I would I would trust him max to name my. kid. Like he Yeah, you know, he. understands the importance of like like. he wouldn't do me dirty. There's a few. other friends I wouldn't trust cuz they. would troll. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like if I give the birth certificate. paper, name my kid, I know you wouldn't. do. >> those are the real homies. >> Yeah. Like I know you wouldn't. [laughter]. >> Those are the real homies. I expect a. troll if I if I give a real homie. Yo, >> a slight troll is okay.

>> Yeah. Slight troll is okay. [laughter]. >> A slight troll is okay. >> Those are the real. >> No. If I got to rename him, then I would. a slight troll. But like for the kid Oh, he didn't do anything to me. Yeah. I I. would do him right or her. >> Would you rename him? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. What do I look like? Summer. >> Summer. >> Summer. >> That kind of sounds my real name. >> Yeah, that sounds like your real name. >> KIND OF CRAZY, ACTUALLY. >> OH, >> THAT'S CRAZY. >> Have you Have you done a video like. saying your real name? Nah, my people. know. >> No, I mean if people want to find it, they can find it. >> Yeah, type [ __ ] Type [ __ ]. >> But that sounds about my real name.

>> You know what people say though, like. when when you have a another identity, they call it like alter ego. Have you. looked into that? >> Yes. Yes. >> Is that why you did it? >> Yeah. Being winter gave me confidence. >> Like the other me didn't have because. the other me had the hard life. The. other me had the school. The other me. had student loans. The other me was. failing class. >> That's why I made a new like a new me. >> Just restart like. >> restart. I just made a new me. People. don't understand. You can re and social. media is the probably the easiest. You. can rebrand yourself. You know what I. mean? In like 10 seconds. You probably.

know this. You've been through. cancellation beef. You know what I mean? It's the two months pass. >> There's another beef. You know what I. mean? People don't understand that [ __ ]. You cut off the server. You're blessed. >> You [laughter] know what I mean? >> 100%. You. >> just got to go outside, man. People. don't be going outside. >> Look at Mr. Beast, bro. Like Like Mr. Beast, zero subscribers. Oh, that's a. lame username, bro. But now Mr. Beast. Mr. Like you don't call him his real. name. You call him Mr. Beast. >> Yeah. You give you give the validity to. it. You give you give the respect to it. >> And what's crazy is too I used to ask my. friends all the time. This is before I. was like like any success on social.

media and stuff. I was like like should. I change my ad like like winter skies. like that? Like like people know it's. not a real name. Like full name. Yeah, >> but I just like how it sounds. It's. like, bro, the name is what you make it. When you make it, people will call you. guys. >> That's literally what happened. >> Really, really? >> And that's the same with just your. identity. Like, you get to decide who. you become. >> You know what I'm saying? And a lot of. people, I feel like we live on autopilot. like don't they don't care or like they. just don't really realize how much power. they have in their hands. >> In your name. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Like you could do so much with. whatever you want to do. >> Yeah. I feel like I've heard that so. many times and but like nobody actually. believes it until they feel it. And I. think like. >> it's like bro you can do anything that. you want with your life bro like it's. all up to you. You [clears throat] like. in whatever situation. >> but like selft talk yo like that like. kind of bringing it back full circle. like anyone can do selft talk like. anyone can do positive selft talk. It. doesn't really matter your situation. like what what your life currently looks. like. There's a lot of people going. through like way less fortunate things. than us. Like there are way less less.

privileged people out there. >> But selft talk like that's like that's. one thing that anyone can do. >> And yeah, it's so true. Like everything. is kind of up to you. Like you can do. anything. >> You can you can genuinely do anything. >> Power in your hand. >> Yeah. The power [clears throat] is in. your hand. >> I think it's honestly like self. hypnotism too. Yeah. >> Kind of. Kind of. I don't know. >> That's true. Speaking of the names one, you remember the Coke thing that you. told me? You should tell it to these. guys cuz the name the the Coke name. theory. >> Oh, >> tell them that one. >> Coca-Cola. >> Yeah. So, Coca-Cola like um you know how.

you could you can make like a custom. Coke can. >> like you can have your name on it. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. How deep are you guys into like. Illuminati [ __ ]. >> I I fully believe Illuminati. >> Oh, yeah. You have you been to LA? >> Allegedly. >> Um I've been to LA. >> Okay. Do you feel different in LA than. here? >> I do feel a very uneasy energy in LA. >> Okay. [clears throat] Everyone says. that. Everybody says that peri like I I. don't even know how to explain. >> It's like shaky. No. Shaky. >> Yeah. Literally, that's how I describe. It's like shaky. >> Me, Mac, like my girl. Same thing. Like.

all of us just like there's just. something like air does not feel good. >> Like everything's we're hanging out just. like Huh. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> You you too? >> Yeah. Yeah. Exact same thing. >> What is that about? >> All right. What you got? So, first off, [laughter]. with with California, with LA in. general, because there's so much like. rich and powerful people there and. obviously like the Epste and stuff or. whatever, >> all the elites, people say they be doing. rituals and, >> you know, satanic things and dark magic, right? >> Okay. Boom. That's like a theory. Um,

and it's obviously it's prominent like a. lot of media and a lot of commercials. and a lot of music especially, you see. like dark things. You see rappers doing. kind of demonic stuff on stage. >> in their music videos, leave subliminal. messages. So, there's somebody that died. recently. Her name was Hayden. What's. her name? >> Oh, um ah [ __ ] What's her name? >> Patreon or whatever. >> Yeah, let me let me see. >> Yeah, bring that up. But she passed. away. And what's so weird is like her.

birthday lined up with um the numbers of. when she's gonna die and lined up with. uh the show she was in. The way she died. was the same in the show. So she died. during a lunar eclipse and she was part. of this show called Heroes and a lunar. eclipse happened in the show and she. died in the show to cardiac arrest. >> Mhm. >> And it was like the same date. It was. weird. Anyway, >> panitier. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. died at 30. >> This is recent.

>> And people are saying this is like it's. ritualistic, right? Ritualistic. So. people either sell their soul to the. devil, get rich and famous, but they. lose a side of them that they can no. longer control, right? >> She even came out on I think J Shetty. podcast. It was on like a certain date. that matched up with the date she was. dying or something. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Or the date of her birthday. And um. yeah, in that podcast she was saying. like she was being pretty much what's. the word? Like swindled to do things she. didn't want to do in Hollywood.

>> What the [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Anyways, go to the Coca-Cola. thing. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Okay. >> Holy [ __ ]. >> man. I'm just like. >> No, the Coca-Cola thing. Um you you can. make like your own custom Coke can. You. can put like Oh, winter skies on Coke, right? >> Yeah. >> What's weird though, >> you can put any name you want. >> Uhhuh. But you can't put Jesus. >> Mhm. >> Like on the website. >> On the website. And the only way you can. is if you put is evil. >> Jesus is evil. Wow. As [ __ ].

>> And you can do you could do like all of. these different You could do like. >> Wait, can you put God? >> You could put God. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. >> You can put God. >> You can put God. You can even put Allah. >> Yeah. You can put like Buddha. You can. put whatever. But if you put Jesus is. evil, it allows it. If you just put. Jesus is good, you can't. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> That's wild. So there's so many. different ones like that too. And it's. because like you know the elites control. popular culture, they control media. They control all the things in.

Hollywood. >> Yeah. >> So it's like a give and take of you have. to hang with the big dogs. >> if you want to Yeah. >> If you want to be rich and famous, you. got to be kind of like be careful where. you stand. >> Yeah. Don't fall for that in LA, man. >> One of us has got to do it and we HAVE. TO [laughter]. Everything you said me right now is me. >> I'm saying one of us has to get up to. that level where if the invite ever were. to come, we could verify. >> Well, I this should never make it.

[laughter]. >> This should never make it. But I'm. saying like, >> yeah, >> but I believe that shit's real, too. I. believe. >> Have you ever run into it or No, not. yet. >> No. No. I've never seen it run into. >> I don't know. >> You have a story for that? No. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, cuz it. happens in dreams, too. It doesn't even. have to be a guy coming up to you. It. can literally happen. Like, this is all. spiritual [ __ ] You know what I mean? I. I don't know if you guys seen the. Beyonce clip that recently came out. Like, I feel like all the leads are. finally leaking all the tapes, right? So, there was the people that that was.

going to sign her and then he was on the. phone and he was like, "Oh yeah, Beyonce, come come talk to Michael. Jackson. I can get you a song uh with. him." And he's like, "You just got to. sit on my lap." And I'm like, "Okay, first of all, she can just talk to him. standing up. You don't got to do the sit. on the lap shit." But you know what I. mean? That's what they're about. They. like that sexual stuff. You know what I. mean? It's weird. >> It's weird. >> It's weird because. >> feels like feels like they always find. scapegoats, too. Like there's always. scapegoat like and they blame it all on. that one person and then as soon as. something else comes up, they found. another scapegoat and they blame it all.

Oh my god, it was just this guy. >> And then it comes up for every No, no, it was just this guy. It keeps happening. scary over and over and over and over. >> Yeah, it is scary that they're they're. able to control like literally. everything. So like. >> like that's just. >> we can't really do anything about it. We. could have conversations [laughter] like. this, but. that's that's our like like uh thinking. every day is like can we do something. about this? Because if we try and go out. and say, "Oh, Hollywood, this at least. now everything everyone's looking at us. crazy, you know what I mean? Even though.

this shit's been happening the whole. time. And then later on when it becomes. true, oh yeah, you guys are right the. whole time.". >> Yeah, >> bro. We were talking about like alien. conspiracies, Epstein [ __ ] right when. you started the podcast. All this stuff. Yeah. came out now. Like now all of a. sudden it's real cuz it is real. >> I could imagine what that was like for. y'all when you guys started though cuz. like I mean all publicity is good. publicity and like you know what I mean? If people are calling us dumb, oh those. two guys are crazy crazy. You know what. I mean? As as long as we're those guys.

that you see every day, you know what I. mean? >> Like look at Kanye. Like you ended up. being right about a lot of [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's true. A lot of people. hated him, too. He's got like. everything. >> People don't like the truth. >> And just comes out. >> Yeah. >> Kanye's an interesting case, though, cuz. he like don't like [laughter] he like. don't COMMUNICATE IT PROPERLY, >> YOU KNOW? LIKE HE like it'll be like. it'll be like a great point and a wrong. way to [laughter]. say a crazy, well, and then you can't really like. support him in the moment. You're like,

[laughter] well, Yeezys are Yeezys are. tough. And then cancel culture will will. leech on to that and then you know that. [ __ ]. >> See that's the greatest example of like. delusion though. You know what I'm. saying? Like it's so much faith and. delusion but he gets it done actually. happens. I'm like [ __ ]. >> Mhm. >> Lowkey like a valid formula. >> Mhm. It. >> is a valid formula. >> Cody is funny bro. Like there's just so. much going on going on there. >> Would you guys ever sell your soul? >> No. >> No. You guys ever sell your soul? >> No. I I don't have a soul to sell. You. know what I'm saying? >> No. >> Huh? You don't have a soul? >> God owns my soul.

>> Okay. Okay. Okay. But I could tell tell. the story when. >> it's not mine to tell. >> I did have a dream where I was sleeping. and then I think I told this to you too, but the moment we were like getting up. in more like thing. I was given two. doors in a dream and then one door was. just like oh I think it was just light. and then the other door was it was like. something I fell into. I don't know. But. I didn't choose none. I just woke up. But I just remember seeing that one door. that was nothing. I'm like why did they. give me two doors? I'm like low key is.

like I was I was reading more uh. scriptures and stuff like that during. that time and that's when it attacked. me. But when I haven't been doing it, I. haven't been getting those dreams. So. it's like they know when you're getting. like you're trying to fix your. relationship with God is when they're. they're trying to get you back to that. side. You know what I mean? It's crazy. And it happens in clubs, too. There was. one time where I was in the club and I'm. like I heard like not a a voice but like. it didn't feel right like I like I. shouldn't be here and I left cuz I'm. like yo something's telling me not to be. here right now cuz just a straight.

demonic energy in there is like okay you. know better I think what do you call. that? It's um [sighs] I don't know it's. like gut feeling or something like. intuition intuition intuition but. something told me to get out of there. and I'm like okay I can't do this no. more. >> How [snorts] big are you guys on. superstitions? You guys have those? >> Like like what kind what kind? There's. some, but like I I my whole life I've. been the the guy who says superstitions. are dumb, but I I have my own. >> like the the knock on wood [ __ ] Like.

just like the super basic I never like. walk under like a ladder and then like. >> like my family I think like growing up. Chinese or Vietnamese like we have some. weird ones. >> This is the [ __ ] I want. >> Yeah, this the [ __ ] I want to hear. >> Oh, let me put you guys on some crazy. ones. Y'all going to think about this. differently. So my grandma we have like starting off. like low to to look really crazy. >> Um first like you're not allowed to have. like a mirror in your room for fun. >> Yeah. Like no no mirror at all for funu. but then also cuz like like demons and.

[ __ ]. >> Come out. This is a portal. >> I always turn my mirror when I see. >> Yeah. So [clears throat] there's that. >> Um there was one where my mom Okay. So. >> if we have if your driveway. >> Mhm. >> Okay. If your driveway is facing this. way in your house, right? If if your. driveway is this way, >> none of your beds in the house can be. facing like the same or like be parallel. with the driveway. Have you guys ever. heard of that? >> No. Why? >> Okay. I I've never heard of anyone that. has heard this and maybe it's just the. thing that runs in my family, but like. you are.

>> it's like it's really bad and looked. down upon for you to have like your bed. that way. So, it could be like the best. layout situation of like in your room to. have your bed this way, but like under. no circumstance like my grandma, my mom. will not let me do it. funu reason or. >> no it's like like just the drive like. the way my mom explained it to me she. was like it's cuz they're like driving. on you when like you're like when you're. sleeping or whatever it does something. something bad to what if it's like. inviting demons into [clears throat]. your house inviting negative. >> energ cuz it goes into the driveway and.

they get into your dreams when you sleep. so your bed has to face the opposite way. so they can't access. >> you know what that makes a lot of sense. you know that makes a lot more sense but. the way my grandma said it was like. they're driving on you I'M LIKE THEY'RE. NOT [laughter] DRIVING ON YOU THEY'RE. THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO. >> That makes sense cuz they're entering. >> That makes sense though. That does kind. of make sense. >> Wait, wait, wait. I'm trying to think. about when I had sleep process if my bed. was facing the. >> Oh, that would be crazy. >> Or was face the other way? >> Do you know Do you know like what. directions your bed faces? >> Like like north, south. >> Yeah, north, south, east, or west. >> I don't know. There's so much with that.

So, just recently, this is new news, like Jeffrey Epstein's island, you know, the temple they have. >> on that island there's a temple and they. have a fake door, right? And on the. door, it's just painted. It's just like. a painted wall, but it looks like a. door. And they put like a lock on it. Like they painted a lock. So, it's on. the outside. So, it's obviously keeping. something inside. Right now, they looked. at the direction. And the direction. faces north. >> Now, in Freemasonry,

>> Uhhuh. >> north is where the evil or spirit realm. comes from. And I think in certain. religions too, like north, that's where. the bad spirits come, right? >> And um I believe in certain like if. you're going to do casting out demons or. spirits, you're supposed to have a door. facing north. So when you open it, they. leave toward where they came from. >> But also leaving, you can also invite if. it's facing north. Now, they looked at a.

lot of haunted houses and a lot of like. >> cursed haunted places in the in the. world. Their doors. >> north. >> Face north. >> Face north. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> Oh, [ __ ] No. >> I need to figure that out. >> Fix the bad. >> We need TO FIGURE THAT OUT. [laughter]. Face the opposite way. >> The opposite way. >> Cuz it's inviting. It's inviting spirit. to come, right? >> [ __ ] scary, bro. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Yeah. >> And then facing north. Is is that cuz. like Satan was a fallen angel? Like he.

fell down? >> I don't know exactly. But yeah, that. makes sense. >> I'm just assuming. >> Yeah, that makes sense, too. >> Damn. >> So, which which way is your which way is. your bed supposed to face? >> Um, I face I think I face southeast, >> but I look I look into like the fun of. it. I look it like my building. >> is like kind of south. >> Okay. >> So, I face I face my bed southeast cuz. southeast is like the direction of. growth and momentum. >> That's [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Listen to me. >> I'm down to do whatever, bro. Yeah. >> Wait, what's the top on your list? You.

know how you gave us the. >> bottom? Okay, that was Okay, that one. was the top. And then the last one is. just like if you go to bed without like. 100% drying your hair, you're going to. DIE FASTER. >> WHAT THE WHAT THE [ __ ] WHAT? CHILL. >> But it kind of does make like sick. because like that's not the reason. Like. my dad like my dad's the one in my. family not to be superstitious, but he. would get mad. He would get like pissed. if I if I didn't get like this little. piece of hair that was like a little bit. down. Like you need to be like dirt like.

desert dry before going to bed. >> It's crazy. That's interesting. >> I never cuz like Yeah. You're you're. like cutting your lifespan short if if. you're like not. >> Wow. >> That's interesting. Chinese. >> I think I think that makes sense cuz. imagine back in the day when their. weather conditions were different and. their shelter was different. You know. what I'm saying? Like oh if your hair is. wet you're going to get sick and die. Especially when it's cold, especially. especially in place like China. >> areas. That that makes a lot of sense. like back in the day. >> Did you do did you do the one where you. were birthed and then they you have to.

crawl to something that describes your. career or No, cuz that's China too. >> Oh, really? >> Like a singer or like avatar. calculator like they would crawl to it. >> I I DON'T I DON'T THINK [laughter]. >> AND LIKE you would be a mathematician. smart. >> I I I don't think I I don't think I did. Maybe I did. My mom and dad didn't like. what I chose, so they didn't tell. [laughter] me. >> Oh, no. I don't ask. >> I don't know. >> Yo, but the mirror one though. >> The mirror one. >> Talk about it. >> When I was a kid, >> Yeah. >> I was terrified of mirrors cuz I would.

see [ __ ]. >> Word. >> No. Yeah, but I I never really I never. said it to anyone. >> Yeah. >> Because I I can't describe what I saw, but it just scared the [ __ ] out of me. >> What do you see? >> Like I I I would see myself, but it. scared me, but it wasn't me. It was. really really freaky. And I would tell. my mom, and my mom would just like it's. a mirror. You know what I mean? Like. she's like, "Oh, no, no, whatever." Like. he's just a kid. I told my grandma, "Oh, no, like you're just a kid, whatever.". But there was one mirror in my bedroom. It was in Kyrgystan, so like that's like. that's where I was born. And every time. I walked by it, if I looked, it was like. it was like it was just like a [ __ ].

like freak the [ __ ] out of me every. single time. So I NEVER LOOKED AT IT. WHAT THE [ __ ]. >> I never looked at it and I would and if. the mirror was here, I I would go like. this or I would. >> Yo, that's crazy. >> You would freak me out, but. it only it only went away when I got. older. So, I was scared of mirrors, but. like eventually eventually like you just. get older. I was young though. I was. young. >> But I I remember it would really scare. me. >> I'm telling you, kids see like when. you're a kid, you see it more. That's. why babies when they see [ __ ] dogs, they see [ __ ] You know what I mean?

>> You have to believe it. >> That that does freak me out when I see. [laughter] that. That That [ __ ] does. freak me out. >> And it is a little freaky too cuz like. in my family like my aunties and all. like they're all very spiritual. Like. they do believe in demons. They like, you know, like. >> do they have a third eye? >> One of my aunties does like like she can. tell when you're sick. She can she can. take the sickness out your body. >> Wow. She's like a healer. >> Yeah. Yeah. So like like if I'm sick, for example, she'll like take a piece of. paper or something, right? Yeah. >> Like pray like to God all over my body. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. You. know, pray all over the body. Take the. paper, burn it. Next day you're good.

>> Healer. Healer. >> Crazy [ __ ] bro. >> Remember my Lola we met in the. Philippines? She does that, too. >> Really crazy [ __ ]. >> Oh my gosh. >> But now there's not one mirror winter. won't look at himself. [laughter]. [ __ ]. Mirrors. >> Every mirror. I love mirrors now. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. >> Oh, but I used to think that mirrors. were alternate dimensions. And this is. actually like recently, too. Like it it. was really. >> I swear they are. No, because that's how. ghosts travel through mirror.

>> I don't know. But there was one time, and I may or may not have been really, really drunk, but. >> I looked at myself in the mirror for. like an hour. >> You can't do that. See, you can't. I guess I'm not supposed to, but I I. just saw myself and I was like, "That's. not me.". >> Yeah. Oh my gosh. I've heard so many. stories of this face. >> I I I don't know how to explain. Everyone's going to think I'm crazy, bro. Like, you know what? I understand. like I'm walking by the mirror and I. look back and I'm looking at myself in. the eye and I'm like, "That's not dang.". >> And I get like this close and I start.

just like looking at my whole face and. smiles. >> Oh my god. [laughter] Imagine you think. you got me. >> So I I I I didn't just stand up. I like. lie down like this. >> Oh, you I literally said I literally. said I'm like, "No, like I'm not I'm not. going to move until you move." And I was. like, "I know that you're not me." And I. was I stared at myself. [laughter]. >> And I I stared at myself for like an. hour. It's a [ __ ] mirror. But I was. like I really was like, "This is just. feels odd." Like I just feel like I need.

to observe. Nothing happened. >> Nothing happening. >> But who knows? Maybe just a weird. thought. Maybe people go through it. >> No, people go through But if the one in. if the me and the mirror like smiled or. some [ __ ] Holy [ __ ]. >> Oh my god. >> That's crazy. >> Could you imagine that? >> That's probably somebody is that. >> there is a movie about. >> What movie is that? >> I don't know. I don't know. >> Like a mirror. I think there was a I. forgot what it's called. >> That one scene of that one girl. She's. in ballet class or something and she. >> Oh, that's black swan. No, >> us I think. >> But like they switch places. >> Yeah, they switch places. Yeah. The. mirror thing.

>> Yeah. >> I hate that. Oh my god. >> I'm telling you you what you guys should. do. I seen a this is a perfect real like. viral video. These two guys just sat. beside each other with a computer and. everything that they were thinking in. their heads when you look at your. partner they just wrote it down for. three hours straight. Oh yeah, I saw. that. >> And they read it after first it was like. wow I wonder what he's thinking. But. then it's like deep depressing [ __ ]. It's like oh do I does he know me? What. do I look like to him? And like cuz if. you're staring at somebody for 3 hours. you never know what you're going to. think about. Okay. So, yo, do that, man.

Scary, bro. You can really see what. you're thinking. >> Scary, bro. >> Even an hour and type your thoughts. >> Do you Do you type your thoughts? >> Yeah, you type your thoughts and then. you read it to each other after. And. sometimes it can get really dark. It's. like, wow. Blah blah blah. I wonder what. he's thinking. And. >> you guys should do that. I feel like. you're. >> He's too crazy for that. I'm not going. to lie. You don't [laughter]. >> Yeah. You don't go into something that. with a crazy person still. >> cuz you know you know there was this uh. experiment people did with couples. Right. So, they were able to make.

strangers fall in love with each other. >> Oh, no. >> Doing I think 40 questions and staring. at each other for 3 minutes. Exactly. >> And they were able to. >> That's a viral right. So, what happened? >> It was a whole bunch of like the the. questions got more and more and more. intimate and they asked each other, right? And the more and more intimate it. got, the more in love they fell into. each other. And the last thing is. looking at each other for 3 minutes. because they say when you hold eye.

contact with someone, I think over 2. minutes, that's when you start to fall. in love. >> So if if you have like a combined amount. of like eye contact of that time is when. you start to trust people, when you. start to care, and when you start to. love. So after like 3 minutes and doing. the questions, they were able to get. these strangers to fall in love. >> Wow. >> Yeah. And they did it like a few. different times. Like this is an actual. experiment. >> Run that. That sounds like I'm down to. run that. >> I'm not participating. >> I'm not participating [laughter] in it.

>> That scares the [ __ ] out of me, but. nobody else could do it. >> Would you feel bad if like you got. actually got these random strangers and. made them fall in love? Is that like. playing God low key? Cuz it's like maybe. they don't want. >> Not necessarily. I don't care. >> Like I mean, no. No. >> I think we give them the option or the. opportunity to leave at whenever time. they want. >> Do they want to voluntarily stay the. whole questionnaire? >> That's [ __ ]. >> Yeah. But what if what if like you find. two people like you find a guy and a. girl and you make them do it? >> What if the guy's like like a serial. killer or some [ __ ] and the girl?

>> Could you imagine like like looking. someone in the eye and then you're like, "Oh, >> something's not right." Have you guys. had that? >> Yeah. >> Do you guys Oh my god. You guys. when you're just talking and you look in. the eye, you're like, "Oh, THIS GUY'S. [ __ ] CRAZY.". >> YEAH. [laughter]. YOU KNOW, in LA. got souls, fam. I promise you. >> Like like the light I see in your guy's. eye. Sometimes I'll look I'm like what. the [laughter]. >> It freaks me out. Freaks me out. Like. like sometimes. >> they're vampires, man. >> Yeah, bro. >> The eyes never lie, Chico. That's what. they say.

>> Yeah. You can see your soul in the eye. Like that's what they say in like Asian. culture. Like the the gateway to the. soul is the eye is the eyes, right? So. that's how you connect with someone. >> Don't look at me, fam. >> Now I'm like, now I'm like making sure. [laughter]. >> I'm like, "Okay, let me just. in my eyes you.". >> Yeah. So the eye like I think if you put. eyes on anything it actually. >> gives it a opportunity to be real like. it gives it opportunity to have life. I. think that's what they believe in like. Asian culture and [ __ ] So. >> yeah kind of right I think in Asian.

culture like if you put eyes on let's. say a rock and you can make a face. anything with a face you kind of give. like a manifestation to to life with. right. So even when when you get a. dragon tattoo they tell me um. >> you don't color in the eyes the eyes. last. You have to color in the eyes last. because you don't want the dragon to. feel pain. >> Oh wow, that's crazy. >> So that's why I told my artist like you. got to do that. You got to like do the. eyes last. >> Did the eyes last? That was fire. >> Wow. >> Mhm. >> Too much [ __ ] man. >> But it's interesting like that's why.

that's why I love like looking into. culture cuz you never know like these. little superstitions or something could. be meaningful to you. >> What if those ones with with no soul are. the NPCs? What if they're the NPCs? >> Maybe they are. >> They are, bro. >> Could be. >> That's freaky, man. I will wrap it up there. >> Yeah. Ready? [laughter]. What? I'M NEVER DOING THIS [ __ ]. >> It's a MIX OF EMOTIONS, RIGHT? >> WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? >> WE got scared. [laughter]. Basically, you see how we can go through. many topics and we we never know where. we're going to end. >> Me and Mac are going TO GO HOME. MOVE. ALL THE BEDS. [laughter] MOVE.

EVERYTHING. >> MOVE THE DRIVEWAY. Where the [ __ ] the. driveway? >> Where's the driveway? We live in a. building burn down. Where's Nor? [laughter]. >> Winter. Winter. Winter. Can you buy me a. burger? All. right. Thank you guys for watching this. episode of Jumper Jump Podcast. Make. sure to comment, like, subscribe, all. that good stuff. >> Yes, sir. Shout out Winter and Mac for. coming. Where can they find you guys? >> Uh, Macaw. >> at Winter Sky. >> Yes, sir. >> And if you made it to the very end of. the episode, Mac, what should they. comment down in the comment section? Any.

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