DREAM SYMBOLISMS, THE RAT KING THEORY, & HOW LOVE CAN KILL - JUMPERS JUMP EP.65

What's this What's this story? Okay, yo, no, no, it's crazy cuz this is. the first time like I don't remember a. lot of my dreams I had. Yeah. But this one was like 4K HD, right? And. I was looking at my friends and [ __ ] in. like there were certain friends that I. met that kind of contributed to the. story, right? Okay, so I'm going So this. is all in a dream? This is all in a. dream and this was right before we were. about to record. Yeah, no, no. This was.

right before something really bad. happened too like the day after with. you. Okay, so listen, listen, listen. Yeah. So I'm going to give you the back. story. Mhm. So before I had this dream I was going. through a lot of [ __ ] right? I was I. was lazy. Yeah. um my my routine was so [ __ ] like I was. sleeping at like 4:00 a.m. Damn, yeah, yeah. at like 2:00 p.m., right? Not doing. [ __ ] So I had this dream, right? And I. I only remember the end of it, okay? Okay. So it was me one of my really really. close friends Yeah. close friend, right?

Yeah. In a bus with a bus driver with a. gun. Oh, [ __ ]. Right? So I don't know how we ended up. in that position, right? Mhm. But the whole dream was the bus. driver uh kidnapped us and he was going. to kill us one by one, Oh. so he called me up first, right? Yeah. And I was I was in my dream crying. We. were all crying. Damn. So before I went. up to him, I went up and looked at my. friend and I one of my closest friend. I. said Here I I wrote it down. You You. remember the whole [ __ ] Yeah. so I wrote it down. It's a full feature.

film. Fam I dabbed him up and I said I'm going. to see you in my next life, so don't. worry. Okay, okay, yeah. boom, that one is my really close. friend. So I always say that I was. supposed to meet him in this life. Mhm. So I go to the next one. I don't. really know him that much, so we just. dabbed up and hugged. Yeah, yeah. And we were just crying. crying. So I laid my my head on the bus. driver's lap and he had the gun to my. head, right? And at that point I usually. wake up because I'm about to die. Yeah. But this one I was like what the [ __ ] am. I not waking up like I'm I'm about to.

die. Yeah. And I'm waiting I'm waiting. You. hear the click? I it's white. Oh, [ __ ]. after the gun click you wake up. Yeah. 2 minutes pure white. Woah, what the [ __ ]. and I was like and I was like Yo. Is. this the afterlife? Like I'm not waking. up from this dream. You went to like. purgatory or something. Exactly, yeah. Cuz I'm like what is this. white? And then boom, after 5 minutes of. white I find. Yeah, yeah. 4:00 a.m. in the morning. I'm like what the [ __ ] Oh, you wake up. after the whiteness? Just straight? Yeah. It's like I It's like I I got out.

of like some I was supposed to die, but. then I I woke up out of it. Damn. So you. could have died in your sleep. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yo. I know. it felt it felt so real like the gun to. my head it felt so real. Yeah. And now this is the crazy part cuz. I thought that was an omen that. something bad was going to happen to me. Mhm. And the day we went to um MrBeast. Burger? MrBeast Burger MrBeast Burger, right? Here it Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here it is. It. started snowing like crazy. The roads. Oh, [ __ ] right? Yeah. I dropped you.

off. I dropped Josh off. Me and John. were going down this hill. Yeah. A car was turning left. I couldn't. brake. Oh, [ __ ]. brake was getting jammed. Yeah. J- J- the funny [ __ ] is John is. like the most UH HE'S NONCHALANT. SO SO SO WE'RE GET WE'RE going to crash. Yeah, yeah. And he goes oh, no, THIS. ISN'T A CRASH. LIKE LIKE LIKE BRO, THAT'S JOHN. THAT'S. JOHN, BRO. I'm like what the [ __ ] I'M.

LIKE YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME TO SWERVE no. nothing. Bro, he's like oh, THIS IS A. CRASH. NO, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW HE DID REACT, BRO. But then yeah, but that happened. and but I swerved last minute. Oh. Like I swerved. The brake was not. working. It was one of those ones where. it's like. like the brake You had to pump it. You. had to pump it. to pump it. Damn. was like [ __ ] was that an omen that I. was going to die that day? That's. [ __ ] Oh, [ __ ]. Cuz it happened it happened just the day. after. Mhm. Yeah. So you think did Did.

you have the same feeling cuz I know. sometimes when you have a dream Yeah. you have a similar feeling in the dream. to in real life. Just like when people. predict things Yeah. they have like not. necessarily the the whole setting. Uh-huh. but the sense you have. You know. what I mean? Like the gut the gut. feeling type thing. I had a gut feeling. That's what I was. saying. That's why when you asked me let's go. out and when it started snowing I got. worried. Oh, [ __ ]. want to be driving on these roads right. now. Damn. But But do you think Do you. think you start to manifest things like. that? Yeah. Cuz you could manifest bad.

[ __ ] too. that's why. And that's why I searched it. up. Is this Is this a uh if I had a. dream of me dying, what does that mean? Mhm. thought it had it was me an omen of. dying. Yeah. it's actually it's actually um all your. bad habits you die with all those bad. habits and your new person comes out. Mhm. I told you that I was having a bad. routine bad everything? Yeah. Just before I had that dream I was. I was getting good. I wasn't getting. lazy. I was do I was editing Tik Toks. sending you in advance, Mhm. you know?

No, that's true. That's true. And I. think that's always always what it is. Whenever you have like a death Yeah. there's always an outcome. There's always an outcome. Right? There's always a a silver lining. to it cuz death to one life Yeah. equals. a new life. becoming, right? Which is And there's a. there's this really really deep quote. I. forgot who said it. It was someone like. super wise. Yeah. They said no matter. what whether it's like a breakup Mhm. whether it's like a death in the family. something crazy that affects your whole. life Yeah. there's always if you want to.

become someone else Mhm. You have to You. have to destroy the buildings that once. were if you want to build the next one. Yeah. And that's so true cuz you can't. have room for everything else Mhm. if. you want to start a new one. Yeah. Right? to let go of that baggage cuz like okay, say one of the one of the Uh things that. you don't do in a new relationship is. bring up your ex. If you're always. bringing up your ex Yeah. that new. person not going to like you. You. haven't moved on from that person yet. No, that's fact. You should never You. should never bring. Who the [ __ ] brings up past.

relationships in a relationship you're. in right now? of people do actually. A lot of people do. Well, why? Why do. you think that is? Because they're still. they still have that feeling like. especially the first. Yeah. I always say. like you will never forget your first. How you how [ __ ] it was how bad memories. it was you will always remember that. one. Yeah, I guess I guess. And maybe that's why you bring it up cuz. it's so rememberable and you just always. have it in your head. Mhm. But I think I. think you can move past like pretty. easily once once you have someone new,

Yeah, exactly. But you don't you forget. [ __ ] right away? I think I forget [ __ ]. right away. Forget [ __ ] right away. I. forget bad [ __ ] right away. Honestly, yo, sometimes sometimes um. people will ask me yo, do you remember. that terrible thing that happened way. long time ago? And then I'm thinking to. myself. Nah, did we ever even do that [ __ ]. Yeah. And they're like yeah, you were. there. Like I think I deleted that whole. memory in my head just because it was. bad. Mhm. So I delete my bad memories, bro. No, I. only remember the embarrassing ones.

Like like I could like Uh in like JK ask. you I can bring up a time where I was. embarrassed. Yo, okay, okay, I can I can. agree with you there. Yeah. So I used to. I used to remember embarrassing [ __ ]. from when I was in like really really. young ages. Yeah. elementary school JK whatever Mhm. and bro anytime I remember the SpongeBob. episode. Yeah. You know where they're like. burning the files and [ __ ]. Oh, yeah, yeah. Where's the fire? WHERE'S THE. SO IN MY OWN HEAD UH-HUH. I I imagine I. kind of manifested Where I'm taking.

pieces of my memory Okay. in files and. locking up in a safe and right as I. think about that that memory gets locked. away forever and I don't access it no. more. What the [ __ ] Dead ass. I'm not even. making that [ __ ] up. Like I actually. don't remember it. If I really want to. forget something, I really try really. really hard. I swear to God. I swear. Really? Yeah. That That's such a visual thing to. do. Like Like remember how you were. telling me that you you see the apples. in math? Yeah. And that your your mind works so. weird. No, it's all visual. Just like.

conversations you said it's like It's a. road map. It's a road map. That's. [ __ ] weird. I think that's just how. it is, bro. That's how it is. But going. back to going back to like I guess. regrets or or thinking of past things, right? Yeah. So there was this there's this. site I was recently on. Oh, no. So So I saw this Tik Tok. Yeah. It's called [ __ ] what's it called. again? It's It's called uh. Unsent Project? The Unsent Project. It's. called Unsent Project. So what it is. Okay. much unsent text messages that were.

supposed to go to you allegedly. That's. crazy. How do you even How does How do. you even do that? Like So so pretty much. what it is it's almost like a Ask.fm. So. there's a there's a sense of anonymous, Mhm. right? So you don't know who that. person is. You don't I mean you don't. know who sent that message. Okay. So I. was looking at it, right? I was looking. at it. Okay, you put your name in and I. think what it is Yeah. it's just to. everybody that's named Carlos. Carlos, right? So I searched up my name.

Carlos. I'm scrolling through. There's some. crazy [ __ ] in here like I was in love. with you earlier this year. Yeah. You. Like [ __ ] like that. There's some crazy. [ __ ] here. Yeah. I want you so bad, but. you never even answer my phone no more. No. [ __ ] But I'm thinking most of this [ __ ]. isn't towards me. Mhm. It's towards another Carlos. Yeah. But then But then listen. Cut this part. out, but like cut out the name. Okay. But they said. name, fam. Oh, [ __ ]. This Look. Look. No. So I'm like I'm. thinking bro, maybe that one went to me.

or it was supposed to go to me. Yeah. Read this next one. Okay. This This one. kind of [ __ ] me up cuz I'm like Nah, this one definitely went to me. Listen. Whenever I see Cowboy Bebop I remember. you. No. I'm like yo. No. That That has to be. towards me. And then look and I see this. one. This is You never sit right on your. chair, BUT IT'S OKAY. WAIT. OKAY, THAT ONE THAT ONE MIGHT BE. THAT. ONE MAYBE. That one's maybe. That one's. maybe cuz I I do never say right away.

here. That's so fast. Wait, can you put. Is it only your first name or is it your. last name too? I think you It's just. your first name. I'm pretty sure it's. just your first name. No, that's not. to try? Let's try it right now. Let's. try it right now. I'll put in Gavin. Someone is funny. Someone is funny. The. fact I want to kiss you right now. What? Till my mouth falls off. Why. there's so much romantic ones towards. you? I have no idea. Maybe Carlos is just. medicine. But a lot of them are [ __ ] Look, are. we drifting apart? What made you lose.

feel like there's some sad [ __ ] in here, bro. But if you think about it, all of. these messages would come from people. that have regrets or at least have um. [ __ ] they want to get off their chest. You know what I mean? Anytime you had. like a a crush or somebody you really. loved and never told them, it would. probably go down there. Cuz you can't. leave that [ __ ] inside. That [ __ ] will. kill you. So is is this only from Instagram or is. it like actual messages? No, this is. just um. This is like you write messages. I think.

it's like a forum. I think. Okay. Cuz I was like how how are they. collecting a database from all the. Instagram unsent messages? I don't know if it's Instagram. I don't. know if it's Instagram or I don't even. know if it's like um text messages or. whatever. Allegedly it's text messages. That's what they're saying. That's. [ __ ] crazy. Okay, let's search up. Gavin. Okay, bet. There's going to be like a. whole bunch of Let's see. Let's see. I. need a love letter. I love you, brother. I love your brother. I said I love your brother. Yeah, that's that's me now, B.

All right. I love you, but you don't. know how to tell you. I don't know how. to tell you. Okay. Woah, Gab. I love. you, Gab. That's my nickname. Thank you for coming to my life. Love. you so much, idiot. See, these these are. all like some sappy [ __ ] you know? Yeah, I miss what we had. That's. definitely my ex. No, there's a lot. There's hella. There's hella. I think I was. Stop playing Apex and text me back. Okay, no. I don't play Apex. That's. crazy. See, mostly of it mostly of it is. like um. un un uh unhashed love type of thing,

right? And that's crazy to me cuz it. just goes to show how many different. story lines there are in the world, bro. Yeah. Wattpad story? Have you ever had. Wattpad? I never I never used Wattpad. had Wattpad, but this girl was telling. me like her whole life is based on a. Wattpad story. Like how they met. Woah, woah, what is a Wattpad again? So it's like a love story that is so. crazy that it just ended up being real. Oh. one um that I read that that my friend. sent me. There was a guy and a girl, right? And every day before work, they.

always took the wrong exit. And one day. uh like the girl let down her window and. like the guy was staring at her and like. they gave her a little nod. And then. boom, they're like, "Oh, you want to get. coffee?" Boom, now they're married. That's a Wattpad story. Oh, so it's like. sappy like the blog type of thing. That's what it is. fate type [ __ ]. Okay, okay. Okay, I heard this theory. though that love unhashed love or love. that eats you up on the inside I can. actually kill you. Oh. You heard about. that? about that, too. So I think love like it.

affects your actual heart. So that's why. in every single symbolism of love, Valentine's, or whatever, they always. show the heart. Because love indirectly. directly affects your heart your heart. health. It will affect the way you. breathe. If you think about it, anytime. you see someone you love, you get a. little bit of I guess anxiety or. excitement. butterflies. Yeah, that would change your your your. breathing pattern or even your blood. pressure. Maybe it like you skip a beat. or whatever, right? So bro, a really.

really bad heartbreak could kill. somebody. How though? I don't know. I. think just Emotional damage? Yeah, just. straight emotional damage. Maybe even. just the the willingness to live. Yeah. No, that's facts, bro. Like for people. out there, if you ever got this if you. ever got heartbroken, you can't like you. can't eat. Cuz when when I got my. heartbroken, fam, I was trying to eat. Really? but I lost I I lost my appetite, bro. Like. I couldn't eat. I think it's the opposite for some. people though. Cuz some people that eat. hella. Oh yeah, like. better to feel better. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yo, so I I bring it back. I take this. kind of idea and I take it to Attack on. Titan. Do you watch Attack on Titan? No, no, I don't. So there There's this. There's this one scene where this guy I. don't want to spoil anything, but this. guy he kind of lost the willingness to. live, right? And he wasn't able to. transform into his Titan. Yeah. And I think that's such a deep That's. kind of like a metaphor you can use in. in everyday life. Like you can't be you. can't be the superhero you are if you. have those feelings like deep down that.

you haven't hashed out, right? You. agree? Do you think Do you think something like. that whether it be like a heartbreak. whether it be. the willingness to to move on Yeah. can affect how you flourish as a person? How though? Give me like Give me another. example. Let's say somebody's a super super. confident guy. They're like uh They just. lose it, you're Yeah, or even let's look. at Kyrie Irving when when what's her. name Kehlani Yeah. cheated on him.

him. And he did [ __ ] right? Yeah. But then but he did He did come. back. He did come back. So I guess it's. just that that little push that cuz. there's always like what do you call. this? The the hill. Yeah. that you just need to get over. And if. you get over that hill, you're blessed. for life. Yo, yo, I seen this funny ass I seen. this funny ass video. So. there's this crazy win in UFC history. where Georges St-Pierre he was getting. backlash because they thought Georges. St-Pierre was cheating, right? And then. Georges St-Pierre he came out with a.

video and he's like, "Okay, guys, I have. to tell you I was cheating." And then. and he he explained how he how he. started cheating. He explained, right? He said, "I actually I hired I hired. somebody. Uh-huh. to kiss B.J. Penn on the lips. right when he was walking into the. octagon." And there's a video. Yeah, that's too much. There's a video. B.J. Penn's like walking in like you know the. walkout. He's walking in and then. there's like a random guy that like. kisses him on the cheek. No, that's that's too much, bro. And.

then GSP's like, "At exactly that moment. he lost all of his willing No, no. all. of his will to win, all of his. strength." No, that's [ __ ] weird. You. know that reminds me of You know the. cheater the how to catch a cheater? How. to catch a cheater? Which one? Uh when a. guy or a girl hires another guy to go. flirt with their significant other in. the store. Oh, that's so dumb though. That [ __ ] is. so dumb. You have to be so insecure in. your relationship to do that. I don't. know why why girls and guys do that. Yeah. Why they hire another guy or girl to in. the first place just to go out their way.

to hey To test it to test it. the [ __ ]. I think I think if you have to if you. have to do that, that's already a deaded. relationship. No trust in it. But but. going back to what you said like how how. you have to get over that hill and stuff. and how you have to flourish type [ __ ]. Yeah. So like one of my one of my. friends um he owns a shoe store, right? And I I always ask like um these local. businesses why they start why why like. what's their motivation. And it's always. it's always heartbreak or they didn't.

have money. It's either both the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz like like what what you were saying. how how you have to you have to have a. willingness to live, right? Remember in. the group chat when I went through the. heartbreak I was like, "Guys, I don't. know what the [ __ ] to do, man." And then. you were you were telling me like the. number one thing, right? The number one. advice to how to get over heartbreak. Carlos told me is just if you can be. okay with that your your girl is [ __ ]. another guy. And I took that I didn't. want to hear that, right? But Carlos. told me that and I took that [ __ ] to.

heart and that's when I couldn't eat. Oh, no, but it's it That's what You have. to face that reality. Cuz if you don't. face the reality of the really really. really bad, then you're never going to. get over it cuz you're going to think. everything's sunshine rainbows like a. like a rom-com. That ain't life, bro. Your life ain't a rom Maybe maybe by. luck it could be, but more times your. life ain't a rom-com. And that that's what I can I I go off. that. motivates me, too, cuz what happened. after I got heartbroken. I was. designing. I was doing the stuff I love.

Now boom, look what happened. Yeah. Yeah, I think even even art whatever it. becomes like. into the actual canvas onto onto a movie. onto like a piece of music, that's where. you hear the stories come out from, bro. It's from J. Cole getting his girl. pregnant and then the wanting to get an. abortion that type of story in his song. Yeah. That's probably from real emotion. Nobody just raps about that [ __ ] for. just cuz. Real [ __ ] Like you It's so easy It's so. easy to rap about clothes you don't.

have, chains you don't have, grills, money you don't have, but it's harder to. rap about [ __ ] that actually affects you. emotionally. Yeah, that's No, that's. real [ __ ] Did you Did you hear about. the artist that is only an artist in his. sleep? Who? Who's this? You didn't know. this? Okay, okay, I'mma tell you. So. there's a theory that you're actually. smarter in your sleep than when you're. awake. Woah. Now, how how? Okay, so. there's a there's a video and. infographic, right? And there's a guy. that proves this that you can have some. special abilities while you're deep in.

sleep, right? So. So there's there's a guy called Lee. Hadwin, right? And during his sleep, he. creates like Mona Lisa masterpieces. Oh, [ __ ]. he wakes up, he has no creative talent. at all. What the [ __ ] So so he just. loses everything? Yeah, exactly. So he's like Is he Is he sleepwalking? Yeah, so so he has a habit of. sleepwalking, right? So the there's a. sleep specialist that tested him, right? So they put Before he went to bed, he. put a bunch of blank canvases around his. bed and art supplies. When he when he.

woke up, there was a body of painting. already there. Damn. Yeah. And this is the crazy [ __ ] too, cuz he like when he's awake, again, no. creative ability. His highest mark in. the art class was a D. Oh, [ __ ] Yo, I'm. pretty sure there's a there's a famous. pope that a lot of the the church hymns. came from him in his sleep. Like he. would just be humming and he would set. like a tape recorder to get his humming. So, that's how they made all of the. songs. It's just.

like what in his bed, bro. He's just. This guy was caged just like. Holy lord. You know there's AN APP FOR THAT? Is. there? Yeah, so I wanted to download the. app too, but low key like there's some. creepy [ __ ] that on Tik Tok of people. like saying stuff that Oh, it records. you whenever it hears something. Right? Oh my god, I don't want to hear that. [ __ ]. What if What if it catches something. that's not your voice? It's like Carlos, wake up. Some next [ __ ] like demon.

Wait, have you ever have you ever woken. up like at the middle of the night just. randomly? All the time. All the time. You know what I found out too? When you. randomly wake up, it's our body. like our body gets a sense of somebody. staring at us. That's why we woke we. woke up. Did you know that? Yeah. Oh [ __ ] Or like you have a sense. of someone staring at you. That's why I. know I'm like, what the [ __ ] I think I. think it has a lot to do with anxiety. though. I think that's why that's why I always. wake up just cuz it's the Any time I set. an alarm in the morning, I wake up.

before the alarm. So I have like a. automatic body clock that I can set up. myself. So I'll set up the alarm for. let's say 10:30, I'll wake up at like. 9:30. I'm like, bro, how did I wake up. early so so easily? I have those two. And I think it's just the just your mind. already knowing what time it is outside. of your body. Do you think that's. possible? No, that is. That's why we. wake up like on on the stop right before. we we get off, right? Really? So your. body has a sense of like outside when. you're asleep? 100%. Interesting. Cuz you know what I never.

got? Like why why do I sleep on a public. transit? Like it's very dangerous. You know? Oh, and there's a thing called. the first night effect. So so it's like. your body when you're in new like. environments and you're trying to sleep, you don't sleep that well because your. your brain is trying to protect you. From what? So just just cuz you're in a. new environment. So there's new dangers. around you. Oh, so any time you go to. like a hotel room and [ __ ] I was going. to say cuz one time I couldn't sleep at. like when I was a kid Great Wolf Lodge.

Why? Cuz I thought like those. animatronics. at the at the front would come and get. me in my sleep. That's why it's the. first night I couldn't sleep at all. You're scared of animatronics. That's. Five Five Nights. I was so scared of. Five Nights. That's one of my like like. deepest fears, man. I don't know. It's like clowns. Are you. actually scared are you scared of like. like mascots? Mascots? Cuz you're scared. of clowns and you're scared of. animatronics. Are you scared of mascots? When I was a kid. Okay. Not right now. Not right now. Not right now. Like I can. I can push it off. Let's test that.

Cuz like a mascot behind you. That'd be. crazy. That'd be crazy. Comes out the wash. No, but. going back to. going back to feeling like a heart. breaking [ __ ] or feeling something in. your heart. I heard this This was on. Discovery Channel when I was a kid. Do. you remember this? There's somebody that. had a heart transplant and when they got. their heart transplant, they were able. to speak like six different languages. They were like vegan all of a sudden.

They wanted to go exercise all the time. And before then they had nothing to do. with that. But it was just the fact that. they had somebody else's heart in them. Cuz on that recess, everyone is asking. the question if you had anyone's heart, who would you replace it with? Oh, I. remember those talks though. I remember. those talks. Okay, who would you who. would you replace it with? Anybody's. heart? Damn. Okay, like somebody I know. personally? No, no. Like it could be a celebrity. It. could be anyone's. Probably some. Somebody that's healthy, bro. Somebody. somebody that likes eating carrots all.

the time and [ __ ]. To live longer. No, anybody anybody that doesn't have. high blood pressure or something like. that. That's what I try to avoid. You ever watch. I want to eat your pancreas? Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, you watched it. You watched. it. Yeah, so the theory is that if you eat. somebody's pancreas, they will take away your like disease. So let's say you get a you get a you get. a transplant, right? So this is the. whole concept of the anime. Is this girl. was going to die and her best friend at.

the time, he was like, I'll eat your. pancreas for you. So when you eat it, it's supposed to dismiss the toxins in. that person. Yeah, it's some it's some like next. superstition. Some next super. But I'm starting to think Do you think. certain things with the heart cuz we see. so many symbolism, right? So much. symbolism with the heart, with the soul, all of that. Do you think it really. affects our physical body? What? Like. like seeing hearts? The spiritual side. to it and the physical.

To be honest, I don't know. What do you think? So recently, remember. how I had crystals here, right? My my cousin's girlfriend, she's she's. like a She's like a quote unquote I. guess like a witch, right? And she can heal she can cleanse. crystals, all of that. I was having. trouble with the crystals. That's why I. took them out in the first place. And. then I asked her, can you cleanse them. for me? Can you cleanse them for me? Make them good. So she did that and then. right away when I got the crystals back, she told me like be careful cuz it could.

be a stronger energy. My blue crystal, you remember that one? That one is supposed to open up your. throat chakra, right? And it's supposed. to make you a better speaker, all of. that. So right when I took it out of the. bag, I got like a massive headache. Like my head was like pounding. And I. was like lying down right here. Literally right here and I had it right. here. And I was like this. I was like, damn, it's like it's like hurting my. head. And. over time, I want to say like 20 minutes. in, guess what happened?

My throat started to felt like it was. closing on me. Closing, not opening. Closing and I'm like, what's going on, right? Cuz it's supposed to open your throat. chakra. And it felt like it felt like hands were. around my neck. Yeah, no, I'm not even I'm not I'm not. I'm not even lying. Like this this is. real [ __ ]. So I'm starting to feel something. I'm. like, what is this? And then you know. that feeling where you kind of have like. a clogged throat and you can't talk? Not. COVID, but like you know what I mean?

So I'm getting this feeling and I'm. like, okay, I'm going to put it away and. then just relax for a bit. And it was. still there. It was still there, right? It's still there. I did a little bit. more research into Google. And then yes, those those crystals do. open up your throat chakra. But maybe. it's because my my my vibrations is too. high already. It might mess it up. But anyways, I went. back. I gave the crystal to my sister. I'm like, okay, test it out. See if it. affects you. She's like, oh, I didn't even really. feel nothing. I'm like, oh damn, interesting. So I brought it back. I brought it back. to my room and then all of a sudden it.

was cleared. Yeah, all of a sudden it was like I felt. normal and I felt like I really wanted. to talk. Like I really wanted to I. really wanted like hop on the pod right. away. And then that same day, the next. two days I recorded for my next podcast. So I just back to back like boom boom. I. need to talk. I need to talk. That's. [ __ ] No, no, back to the symbolism. It does I feel like it does like relate. to what's happening actually in your. life. Cuz remember when I told you that. before I seen I had that dream and. before I was going to a bad routine, what number did I always see? Two?

Three? Four? Four? Remember? And that that means that you. like you're on the right path. And I was. getting to that right path by by getting. a good routine. Getting a thing. So I. don't know if it's real, but it did it. did in like inner. it did make me want to do it more. Like. go to bed early. Do my bed. That's good. That's good. Even if it's even if it's. just a placebo, if it helps you for the. better, who cares, right? But I'm going. to tell you this. I actually avoid the number four. Why?

So the number four in Asia is actually. really really bad luck. Yeah, cuz it's actually I think it's the. same symbol as death. The number four is. the same symbol as death in Chinese. Something like that. I'm pretty sure. And the number four, if you think about. it when you write it, it has one, two, three, four ends. So it. ends four times. So the very lucky. numbers in China are what? Eight. Seven, right? Two ends. Eight, infinity.

Yeah, well four ends in four ways. So. any time any time you see like a like a. really superstitious Asian person, ask. them about the number four. They'll tell. you, yeah, that's like a unlucky number. Any time they get a phone number, they. try to avoid the number four. When I I went to you know Pacific Mall, I was getting my phone plan and we're. like, okay, let's get a good number like. a good fortune. And there's all the ones. that had 444 444 whatever, those were.

still there cuz nobody wanted them. But the ones that had like for example, my number has hella sevens. I'm not. telling you what my number is, but hella. sevens. Yeah, cuz it's it's very lucky number. Even. even in in a rolling dice, seven is the is the highest outcome or. like it's the highest possible outcome. you can get. Or Yeah, that's what it is, right? Like. you can get seven more odds than you can. get like a nine than a five. That's what. I'm trying to say. Chinese New Year, red is is lucky,

right? I always thought that red was a bad. number cuz you don't want to see. Yeah, cuz it's like related to blood. Like that's the first thing you think. about. [ __ ] like that. Red? I never. thought about it like that. I was like something that I just was in. my head. I don't think there's any. unlucky color because there's colors in. the whole world, you know what I mean? And I don't see any Maybe black with. black cats. With black cats. Yeah, okay. Going back. to fate though cuz I was I was. researching some stories. So there was.

this girl, right? I I think she was in. Connecticut. and she had a bucket list. You have a. bucket list, right? Or or do you have. like a I have one in my head. I don't I. don't write it down. So okay, so this. girl had like a little bucket list that. she wanted to complete before she died, right? So. But of them was like. kiss in the rain. One of one of them was. like fly to Spain, right? Yeah. And she did all those things, but. the last thing on her list was to save a. life. Oh, interesting. And she she didn't. complete it cuz she died. Oh, I know where this is going. I know.

where this is going. Yeah. Remember they crossed the street? Yeah. And then the car hit her, right? But she actually did save a life cuz she. pushed her friend OUT THE WAY. OH. OH. IS THAT where you thought it was going? I had a whole different plot twist in my. head. I was like, oh, she probably got in a. car accident and she was dying and then. they she was a donor and used her heart. in another body. So, she saved a life. after death. Cuz they were they were. walking across the road. It was supposed. to hit her friend. Yeah. Moved her out the way. Damn. a life. So, that's why I'm like writing.

[ __ ] on piece of paper or. powerful. powerful. Like saying [ __ ] here is very. powerful. And I think what's more. powerful than just putting like the. words or just putting the symbols and. [ __ ] is the actual feeling. Mhm. So, I. remember when I was doing a reading. Yeah. also did a reading for me before. And then when she was doing reading she. said, okay, Carlos, you have to really. like feel, right? And I did. I like. waited to feel something. Yeah. I'm. like, [ __ ] now. Now. And I knew I knew. exactly when to like for her to put the. cards down. Yeah. And the reading I got was mad.

accurate. Mhm. But who knows? That that that's the. thing cuz you never know if some of this. stuff is all just in your head or if. there is like an actual presence there. cuz of vibration. Yeah, cuz I'm I'm such. a hypocrite to that because whenever I. heard girls talking about like. Oh, 444 111. I'm like, shut the [ __ ] up, man. And then I started seeing. you're mad superstitious. Yeah, yeah. No, I feel like like you. said, once you get into it, then you. really start to see it cuz before you're. not paying attention to the signs. Mhm. But now you're kind of paying attention. to the signs. I think for me it I only.

got it into it because it was too. obvious. Word. Cuz for example, the. 33333, yeah, I still see it like everywhere, no. matter what, reading. Yeah. I was dead ass disrespecting the. art. Like I was like, okay. I was. sitting down like this. I was like, I. don't care. That shit's not true. And. then when it actually started to like. she started asking me questions. I'm. like, wait, hold on. So, do you think. it's valid? You think it's valid? it's I think it's I personally believe. some of that [ __ ] is real. Yeah, some of. it is real. But but there's also like.

general stuff like, oh, boom, like you're going to make a lot of. money. Yeah, you can say that to anyone. else, like Mhm. that that will just. motivate them to go make more money, you. know? I think I think what really. affects. a reading like that is when you can hear. something that they know about you but. didn't get to know you yet. Mhm. Yeah. I. think that's when it's different. That's. when it's different. why my my friend said, whenever you go. into reading, never answer the questions. that they ask cuz they can easily twist. it. So, they can you can feel like they. actually know you. So, when I went there.

I just say yes or no. Yeah. Not not like, oh, yeah. Yeah, my mom. knew a ghost or some [ __ ] like that. they're going to they're going to run. with it. They're going to run with it. Oh, yeah, that means you're going to. have more spiritual [ __ ] in your life. Like, no, bro. Yeah, cuz I swear the first ever you. know, the crystal ball readings? I'm. pretty sure they're all just a finesse. Yeah. That was the most fire finesse, too. And then now there's more easier. way to make money. Do you know there's. you can match make online and you can. make money from that? Wait, what?

can take two you can like on dating apps. you can take two people and match them. and you can make money from that. What. do you mean like match them? Like find. people you think will be together? you can actually make like $35 an hour. making that money. What? Yeah. How the Who's paying you? Huh? Who's paying? The The website. Interesting. Yeah. And uh did you know that you can. there's something called rent a friend? Oh, I heard about this one. I heard. about this one. you actually rent a friend and you do. fun stuff for like an hour and you pay. them like money. Now, there's a guy in Japan. He's. actually he's actually kind of. introverted, but to force himself to go.

out more, he would he would put himself. up for hire for just to hang out. And he. wouldn't talk much and he wouldn't even. do much. He would just be there just. just for company. So, you know who. actually hired him? Who? Were criminals, murderers, people that were cheating on. their significant others. Just people. that needed to kind of going back to the. the unsent message thing. Just getting. [ __ ] off their chest. Yeah. Right? They. had all of this all of this stuff built. in inside of them. They're guilty for.

that. They let it out. They were just. giving him Mhm. everything that was. holding them back. Yeah, that's true. I. I really want to do some some. spontaneous [ __ ] like that. Just putting. myself out there, going out and. exploring this year. I think it's just. cuz we were in COVID area. Yeah. But. like the number one like Wattpad story. that I always have in my head is one. that me me and some shorty are stuck in. like like this snowstorm and we just. have to talk it out for an hour and [ __ ]. like that. Oh, that's like Bart and Geo in in JK. Yeah. That's exactly what happens to. them. Word. That's a Wattpad story. Or.

there was some this video that they they. asked a stranger out on a dating app to. go fly with them to a random country for. one day. Mhm. And that was like their. first day. I always thought that's so. fire. Yeah, that's really sick. If I can find a chill enough shorty to. do that with me Let's go to New York. But like flying out. flying out, that [ __ ] happens on the. regular, low key. It does? Rich people. fly out girls all the time. That happens. on the regular nowadays. Yeah. Nowadays. about a regular person like me just Not.

regular people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? Yeah, people get flown out. I swear. No. No, that's like a that's like a LA. thing. Like they they'll fly people out. from Canada, Toronto, whatever. Yeah, but that's like Blueface flying out. models to No, not even just like not. even just rappers, just hella rich. people. Really? Yeah, if you have the if. you have the bands for it, you probably. do it. You probably do it. Yeah, but that. that's like the ultimate goal of mine. You want to get flown out? No, I want I want to fly out with some a. random person that I don't know and just. like have a good time. What if it's.

someone you don't like? No, obviously. obviously that's why you have to look at. their profile and [ __ ] like that and. ask, are you want to get flown. For me, what if you're stuck with. somebody that you do you like despise, bro? Like right away like you just terrible. vibe but then you're stuck with them the. whole trip. That's why you kind of text. first and then you get the vibe, right? And then you go. What if you get. catfished? You've been catfished before? No, I haven't. I've never been. catfished. I've never been catfished. The real jumpers know. Oh, that story.

No, that's crazy. You could you could. get catfished, you know? Yeah. There. were there was a story where one of my. friends was on dating app. Yeah. The The guy was actually like 4'11 but. on. He was like he was like 5'10 5'11. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, when they got to. the coffee place, she was looking around. looking around. She was like, oh, wait, that you're him? Ah, damn. Okay, okay. What do you think about. people wearing those risers? The risers.

on their feet. Like if they're short and. then they wear like the the gel pads. In. a girl? On a guy. On a guy. guy. Cuz girls already do that, man. Girls. already do that. Girls I don't care. Like they're already. like the guys? But why why don't guys. have the same thing? Why can't guys do. the same thing, huh? I don't know. It's. just. Why not? Right? If girls can have heels, why. can't guys have risers? That's a double. standard type thing. Yeah, there is a. double standard. It's just like it's. such a norm that the guy is more it just. has to be taller than the girl. Mhm.

Yeah, it's I think it's it's just been. normalized in society that for most that. that girls don't want to date a smaller. guy. I don't know why. I don't know why. I think it's just the the like the. subconscious. of survival instinct. Somebody bigger, stronger, [ __ ] like that, right? Cuz. small doesn't mean masculine. Like you. can have a small masculine guy, right? what? Those small people they're they're. the most survivable. You know that? Like tall people die earlier than. shorter people. Did you know? That's a.

thing? Yeah, you didn't know that? No. Like y'all mans not going to last like. long. Why? Just cuz genetics? Hopefully. he does, but yeah. Just taller people in. general, something with like their brain. to like their heart distance, something. like that. I forgot exactly. You guys. have to look into it. But taller people. actually have shorter lifespans than. smaller people. Yeah. And even goes with. the dogs. So, bigger dogs they'll live. maybe like I want to say 12 years, something like that. Yeah. My Chihuahua. his lifespan is like 16 to 20. Yeah. 16.

to 20 years. That's long. That's [ __ ] crazy. Right? Yeah. So, it's probably the same. It's. probably the same thing. I know. There there was something where. the month you're born determines the day. you die or something like that. There's certain months that live longer. than other months. I don't want to hear. that [ __ ] bro. I don't want to hear. that [ __ ] I don't know about November. was one of the ones where it was like we. live longer than others. What was yours. again? I forgot. February. I don't want to hear that. [ __ ] Oh, the earlier you're you're the. earlier months. Shut up, bro.

No, no, obviously obviously obviously. Okay, but. Anyways, anyways, um you ever hear about. the rat king theory? The what? The rat. king. No, I haven't. Rat king? Rat king. It's not a show. It's not nothing like. that. Okay, no, I haven't. So, listen. So, in early middle century, like middle. ages, there was this thing that was like. it was a sign it was a sign of really. bad [ __ ] about to happen. Okay. So, if you saw this Yeah. you better. prepare. Okay. So, what it was is called.

the rat king. And what it is is pretty. much a rat with its tails I want to say. like eight rats with its tails like. entangled. Yeah. I'm going to show you. Okay. So, check this out. Check this out. So, see. see how there's like 10 12 rats with. their tails entangled like that, right? Yeah. So, this was a really really bad. omen that we're going to see really bad. misfortune, disease, something bad's. going to happen in the world, right? [ __ ] yeah. So, this was called the rat.

king. And how this happens is when rats. come into a small area, they become. cramped during very harsh environments, cold environments, whatever, natural. disaster. They're going to they're going. to get to that at some point. But, it's. very, very, very rare. Mhm. And. recently, Yeah. I think just like last. month, Mhm. they caught a rat king on. video. No. Yeah. Where? They caught a rat king. on video. Hold on. Of a bunch of rats. like in cables? But, but it's really um it's graphic.

Okay. So, they weren't able to show it. on this Tik Tok. But, it's something. like this, but to a to a worse effect. No. is nothing compared to what the actual. one was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like um their. feces, whatever, makes them stick. together and they get stuck. And it's. called a rat king. So, there were kings, I think in England, that their whole. bloodline fell Yeah. because of the rat. king. They saw a rat king in that in. that time. Yeah. And what's happening. right now in this month, I know. some crazy things happening.

around the world. You might see like. World War III. No, stop. Don't say that. Don't say that. No, deadass don't say. that. Don't say that. Cuz there's some talk, man. There's some. talk. There's a lot of crazy stuff. happening. That's scary. Like the omens like you. get like the black cat. Remember I told. that story about the Filipino with no. head? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you know about the the doll? Oh, what's that that scary tower that in. Disney? Where you drop Tower of Terror. There there is. an omen like you get an omen if you. don't say bye or good morning to the.

doll at the end of the the ride. What? Yeah, so all the employees before and at. the end of each shift have to say. goodbye whatever his name is or else. they will like that's omen for bad luck. Yeah. There's some anvil [ __ ] bro. No, it is. That's like it's actually. cursed. Yes, it's a thing at Disney. It's it's. at the end of the ride you walk out. It's it's a doll sitting around all. these like dirty things. Damn. to keep it there or else like the the. whole thing's cursed. Oh, something's. going to happen. Yeah. [ __ ] Has anybody died at Tower of.

Terror? No, I don't think so. But, actually I don't know. I haven't. searched it. I'm pretty sure there's some like ghost. stories there though. I heard like ghost. stories about that. I don't know any. personally. Word. Cuz they changed it ever since. I'm pretty sure the one in Hollywood at. least, they changed it into. what do you call it? Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay. So, they. completely renovated. But, maybe the. reason they renovated was because of the. curses. Word. You never know. Who knows? There's a lot of [ __ ] at Disney, bro. You know they the first water park at.

at Disney got it taken down? Why? Why? So, I think I think Do you know the the. Tom Sawyer watering hole or whatever it. was called? I know who Tom Sawyer is. Yeah, so that was the first one. So, that whole river, right? They thought. that there was a that a lot of people. were dying because of the back of. brain-eating bacteria. Oh. Like amoeba or what what do you call it? Amoeba? Um um amoeba? Amoeba. Something. like that. And they were like there was. either that killing people or or there. was no explanation of why people were. dying. Oh, [ __ ] But, they completely took it. down cuz obviously you don't want kids.

swimming in a. infectious pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For. sure, for sure. eating their brains like. bro, that's [ __ ] Okay, speaking of. Disney, Okay. have you ever heard the. Monsters Inc. theory? I've heard a lot. There's another one? one's crazy. This one's crazy. So, there's a theory that in Monsters Inc., you know how they use scream energy in. their in their universe, right? It's a. sense of like clean energy. They only. use the the screams of kids. Yeah. So, the theory is Uh-huh. that. that there being a clean energy Okay.

has to mean at some point they were. using a dirty energy. Mhm. And what is. the dirty energy? What? As we heard in many monster stories. before, Souls? No, in many monster story before, as we know, monsters what? They eat and. kill kids. Oh, [ __ ]. So, maybe the dirty energy is the kids. is the kids. No. I 100. I 100 believe that theory though. Right? Yeah, cuz why why would they want to. keep that little kid around with them?

Mhm. It's almost it's almost like a it's. a twist on the regular monster story. Cuz OG monster stories were always about. oh, that monster's going to eat you. That monster's going to take your blood, right? Mhm. And there's even darker. theories how the kids' blood Yeah. and. the screams is like a metaphor for what? Adrenochrome. No, that's that's so. [ __ ] up. That's crazy. No. You know I'll add on to that cuz I heard.

a theory that Luca was actually a. monster. Luca, the Disney movie? Yeah, cuz what does a human go forming into a. monster? What do you think that is? Do. you think the monster. took like that the kid and now is just. like transforming everywhere? Oh, [ __ ]. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think there's another short one. I. think you know about the how Moana. actually is dead. Moana? How do you say Moana Moana. Moana is. actually dead in this whole the whole. movie. Oh, I heard about that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz I I think on the boat, right?

Where. she she was on, like that's when she. died. The the craft she made herself, right? Yeah. And then that that um. symbol that she was trying to get, that. was her trying to find a new life, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz when um. when she fell or when the the wave. crashed, she she didn't save herself. It. was like the waves that picked her up. But, that could have been a hidden. meaning where she actually died. And. then when she went on this whole. adventure to see Maui and see all these. magical things, capture the thing Yeah, it's just all of.

all of a dream or all of her in like a. coma state. Yeah, that's true. It's. weird, man. the hero, right? And you can take that type of sense to. any cartoon like oh, they were in a. dream the whole time. Yeah. Caillou? Caillou, yeah. It's kind of like the. Pokémon You know the Pokémon one? Which. one? The Pokémon one where where Ash is. in a coma. Like that that classic one. A. lot. But, there's another Pokémon theory. I heard. This one's kind of crazy, too. Okay, okay. That in So, in the OG. Pokémon games, Fire and Red, Red and.

Blue, right? Yeah. If you think about it, the whole. What's the end goal in that game? It's. to what? Catch. leaders and catch them all. and catch. Mewtwo, right? Yeah. Catching Catching Mewtwo is like. the the final step. Yeah, yeah. Right? So, listen, bro. Okay. If you really take it in, throughout. your journey in the game, you go ahead. and like fight Team Rocket. Yeah. You. get in trouble with Team Rocket a lot. Team Rocket is everywhere in your. journey, right? Yeah, for sure. So, why? Why? Now, if. you take it in,

Mewtwo was made by who? Team Rocket? Team Rocket. Now, listen, listen, listen. So, the theory goes that Mewtwo is. actually taking revenge on Team Rocket. cuz Mewtwo is what? Mewtwo psychic. So, he might be controlling you as a person. to go ahead and collect all these. Pokémon, fight Team Rocket, dismantle Team. Rocket, and then once you're worthy. enough, be captured. And then you go fight. And then yeah, and then come to Mewtwo and then you're.

you can you're worthy enough to capture. Mewtwo. Okay. That makes sense. Cuz if. you if you think What does a kid have to. do with Team Rocket? Why the hell would. a kid want to take over Team Rocket? Yeah. Is there there's no backstory? I I. don't remember remember any backstory of. why Team Rocket was a thing. Yeah, no, no. It's just like they're the criminal. organization. And just it's like Swiper. They just ran up. Exactly. But, it has. nothing to do with the main character. himself. The main character just happens. to be in all these situations where Team. Rocket is at. And if you take it in, the. first time you ever see Team Rocket,

you're right beside Cerulean Cave. And. that's where you catch Mewtwo. Oh, that's [ __ ]. No, that's [ __ ] Right? Yeah, that's. [ __ ] You know you know the funniest. thing in Pokémon? It's like why are. there just random people standing around. wanting to fight a kid? No, that's like the premise of the game. though like. It's like. yo, I want to battle you out of battle. I don't know where. The mechanics it's. like you walk straight and if you're in. your in your line of.

eyesight, then it's like oh, let's. fight. It's on smoke, bro. Anytime they see. you, they want to battle. Imagine that was like in real life. though. It's like If it was in real. life, I think that would be a thing. though. I think that would be a thing. But, the only problem is Do you think. No, for sure for sure if Pokémon were. real, we'd be settling we'd be settling. beefs with Pokémon. Yeah, just straight just straight. fighting. Yeah. Low key, it would. probably be like world peace. Yeah. Okay, hold on. We'd settle everything in battles, fam. No, but you know there's a there's a.

thing going around on Tik Tok where you. you pass by a guy with like your same. fashion sense and in your mind you're. always like damn, I want to beat that. guy. Oh, yeah. Like that. You hate on. people and Yeah, do you. Why do you think we get that? Cuz I know. in thrift stores, when you see that guy. who's like stylish, you're like this. guy. Oh, I only I only do that. Okay, backstory. Backstory, I only hate on. people that. that look like me in the thrift store. just because back in high school, anytime I was at the thrift store, I was.

there to hustle. Yeah. I was there to. like get clothes and then resell. So, anytime I saw somebody that like oh, they know what's up, [ __ ] They got. everything I wanted. For sure. You see the guy in the. Carhartt, oh, he's going to get. everything. Yeah, they get all the nice clothes. Cuz. cuz they're the they're the. hunter-gatherers, bro. Exactly. Exactly. Oh my goodness. But, but if it wasn't. for that reason, why do you think we in. our subconscious mind if someone looks. like us, why do you think we we hate. right away? Like our first one is like I. want to punch this guy in the face, fam. Mhm. I don't know. I get that a lot. Like seeing somebody that looks like you.

or like resembles you? resembles me and then I'm like bro, like. I don't know. Do you think it's a it's a. thing of This is deep though. Okay. of you disliking certain. attributes of yourself? I wouldn't say. that. No, but that that you know that's. a real that's a real dilemma. Like a lot of a lot of things that you. hate about yourself, you'll try and put. onto this a different person. Like oh, I. don't like that person. I don't like. that celebrity. Maybe it's certain. attributes that you have, but it affects. you and you don't like it yourself. Mhm. I never thought about it like that. But,

I'm the way I'm talking cuz obviously I. never like talked to that person that I. hate. I'm going off straight off like looks. Just looks? Yeah. I don't know cuz I think it's the. opposite when somebody does look like. you or actually resembles you, I think. you end up liking them. Really? In my. opinion, my opinion. Or at least at. least cuz I read a lot of subconscious. books and [ __ ] right? So one of the. biggest ones is their mannerisms. If. somebody has really similar mannerisms. to you, you'll end up liking them. Oh, yeah, yeah. I I I remember reading. something like how to make a girl like. you, just copy the mannerisms.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I was like that doesn't even make sense. cuz you're just going to uh be weird to. them. No, you don't have to You don't make it. obvious. You don't do every single thing. as they do it like a mirror. You don't. do that [ __ ] Imagine she takes out her. phone and you're like No, that's. all right. That's all right. You don't. do that. You don't do that. and you're like What you do, you pick up. on something let's say uh they play with. their cup like they tap it a few times. And then when they're done doing it, you. think, oh, okay. And tap it a few times. Later, later. But that's like That's like stepping.

into some dark game or some manipulative. That's too much. That's too much. You don't need to do all that. You don't. need to do all that. But it is That's. the problem when when certain tactics. like that do work, is it is it wrong to use them? Now that. you know, now that you know. Oh, I I. believe yes, it's wrong. Why? And this is why because if you're using. all these tactics that that are not you, then she's falling in love with a. fabricated subconscious game you. Okay, okay. True, true. I agree I agree but.

but would you say everything that you've. learned becomes you? Oh, that's a good. question. Cuz what what you've learned what you've. learned. Take this in. Take this in. Whether be from personal experience or. people telling you it's the exact same. thing as learning something else. No, but okay. Cuz you learn it's information. you take in and then go ahead and do. So. if you learn manners, so would you say. manners is the same thing? Uh Right? Cuz. you learn manners and then you do. manners on the daily. but like you're saying dark game. So.

this is stuff that you're really Only. certain people look into this, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can view it like homework or. test, right? That that game is you. cheating. So you have. That's like that's like learning. not what you learned. That's stuff. that's that's stuff that you have on the. side that you can use. Okay, okay. But but I'm going to tell. you this. I'm going to tell you this. No matter what, I think people learn. that in life. But they go through like. the harsh part of it and then get to. experience it. Then they learn. Like.

like they go So it's kind of like a fast. forward. So for example, learning learning not to put. all your all your heart into somebody. you just met. Yeah. is something you learn cuz maybe. you're a very loving person and you do. that right away. Yeah, real [ __ ] Real [ __ ] So you're. going to learn it no matter what in my. opinion, but I think people that do like take a. step and then try to learn about human. psychology, Yeah. they get the edge. because they're early to it. I know. So. in a sense it makes them more wise. Would you agree? Yeah, no, for sure it.

makes them more wise cuz now you have. all these tricks, but. yeah, you're kind of right cuz I I guess. that is what you learn, but what I'm. trying to say is that if you the natural. the natural it's like it doesn't feel. natural and I feel like maybe long term. you might feel some people might feel. guilty that they do that stuff. Like, oh, this is how I got you. This is how I. actually got you. I don't think it would be like that. unless you're very malicious. I don't. think it's See and that's [ __ ] to say. like you don't want to go into that. relationship malicious in the first. place like. I'm saying like I don't think like I.

don't think anybody malicious would. really Maybe certain people would do. that. Uh-huh. But this is the way I see. I see it like this. If you're learning. Let's say you had a friend. Let's say. you had a friend and then your friend. taught you all this stuff. Yeah. So in a. sense you naturally learned it. Or let's. say you had a big brother that taught. you these things. In a sense you. naturally learned it and that's just how. you know. So would you say that's. natural in itself? But for people that. didn't have the big brother, that didn't. have that friend that knows these. things, how would they learn? Yeah. You. get me? No, I think it's just one of.

those ones where the ones who really go. through some [ __ ] and then like, okay, let's let's learn these things. Yeah. Now they have the upper hand. But it's. [ __ ] because now those people can use. it on people they don't even like or. just They can use it in really malicious. ways. yeah. That's why it is tough. It is. tough. But would you agree people will. use the same things on you like girls. definitely use it on you. 100%. Are you. crazy? You You got to be insane if you. don't think a shorty's doing the same. [ __ ] to you. Yeah. You got to be insane.

Yeah, but in the back of my mind I'm not. thinking that she read a [ __ ] book or. watched YouTube videos. I'm not saying any of that. I'm not. saying any of that, but girls definitely. play games guys play games. Everybody. does that. Everybody does that. But it's. it's very. what's it called? Naive, I guess to. think that they wouldn't do it to you. Yeah, that's fair cuz I yeah, I do play. games, but it's it's [ __ ] that I. naturally learn or try or some [ __ ]. that's trial and error. Like, oh, that. works. Not texting for a while and then. texting. That's I learned that through. like trial and error, right? It's not. that I went on a [ __ ] book and read.

it, right? So I guess yeah, it is fair. game that if if you want to go out and. read these these these books about like. how to get a girl or some [ __ ] I guess. it's fair game. It's just that I'm I'm. lacking cuz I'm not reading it, I guess. But I would never do that cuz I'm a I'm. going to just trust in myself. No, but. you do learn in a sense, no? You learn. You either learn from experience or you. learn from. rather learn from experience. Learn from. experience. I don't I don't feel like no guilt or. like I'm trying to do cuz whenever I. tried it and do it, I'm like, ah, it doesn't feel right. It doesn't. give me a good like.

like cuz. You know why? Cuz maybe your intention. of use isn't right. Cuz if For example, for example, if I. learn if I learn how to If I I'm I'm a. I'm a fighter. I I know how to fight. My. intention of use isn't to hurt people. So when I'm sparring with people, I'm. not going to [ __ ] them up, you know what. I mean? But I do know those skills and I. just like here and there boom boom boom. It's whatever to me. So in a sense it's. the same thing like if you're if you're. talking to somebody or if you're trying. to make a relationship, you have all. these things, but you're not going to.

like. Yeah. You get me? You're going to You're. going to like here and there. I I That's. how I think at least. In my mindset, even if you have all this power, I don't. think you should use all of it at any. point. And obviously my my intention of use is. not like malicious, right? Yeah. But the crazy [ __ ] I I heard which. actually goes goes into this was the. psychic or that that girl that was doing. me readings, she was like, yeah, I can I. can give you like a love reading and. [ __ ] like that. I'm like, nah, it's. okay. I don't want to I'll just let me.

just experience that, right? Mhm. So she. goes She goes, oh, do you like anyone. right now? I was like, yeah, one person. And she's like, oh, yeah, I can actually. switch the energies for for her to like. you more, but you have to do. But but you have to do the rest. I'm. like, no. See, no. On like that, that will make me feel. guilty cuz that's not me. That's messed. up. I I. To for me to hire a or anyone to hire a. psychic and and switch around energies. so they can actually like you, that's. the lowest of the lowest. That's the.

lowest. playing real life Shrek 2, bro. That's some low push [ __ ] But isn't. that just kind of like the the the. books? Cuz you're kind of switching the. energies by by doing these games. I. don't think it's the same. I don't think. it's the same. I just think your. intention with it. is what matters. Yeah. Yeah, your intention with it is. what matters. Cuz like bringing you back. to sparring like try I know all these. things, but I'm not going to leave. someone on the floor bleeding, right? That's messed up. Mhm. It just it just. takes a certain person to do those.

things though. Like somebody with. malicious intent is going to do. something malicious anyway. Yeah. Right? That's true. Somebody evil is going to. be evil anyway. Mhm. Right? Somebody. with a good heart is going to be good. anyway. Yeah. That's true. So it's not. necessarily what they know, it's more of. who they are as a person and what. they're going to do with it. Yeah, I know. And back to Taekwondo cuz. before I was this guy who who would. always get beat up, right? Always get. beat up, but then once I reached a black. belt, there was this newcomer, right? Who had like the most stubborn He was. the most stubborn kid, right? And I.

thought and he he he thought he was a. [ __ ] right? So my master really put. this lesson in me. He I I went and. sparred against him, right? I beat him up, beat him up like crazy. and I was taunting. I was doing all this. cocky [ __ ] My master pulled me to the. side. He's like, what the [ __ ] you. doing? You don't teach. You You learned. all these things to teach someone. You. don't bully just cuz you're bigger now. You don't bully him now. Cuz what is he really going to learn? He's going to learn once he becomes. bigger, he's going to bully the next. kid. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

You just You go You teach him a lesson. You don't You don't [ __ ] beat him up, bro. Yeah, yeah. And I had to really. look at myself. I'm like, [ __ ] man. I I. became into a bully. Yeah, you know. what? I had I had a similar a similar. experience with that. Yeah. This one's a little bit funnier. So. Okay, I I think that was probably when. you're really young, right? You're. really young. So this is when I was. younger, too. Okay, looking back I kind of feel bad, but it was still like something I just. wanted to do just cuz. So one day in practice in one time.

um one of the kids I sparred with, his. dad came up to me. Okay. His dad came up. to me and he talked to me and he's like, hey um so-and-so's brothers are coming. in like older brothers. And he's like, do you do you think you. can you can go easy on him? Just make. him a look look a little bit better for. his brothers, right? Okay. And then I'm like In my head I. yeah, I I just told him, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever, right? And then. I don't know why. I don't know what it. was in that exact moment, but I'm like,

[ __ ] LADS. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT I JUST WENT LIKE I. went off. I didn't I didn't hurt him. badly. I just like I did [ __ ] to make. him fall. Like, you know the SWEEPS I. DID? THAT'S [ __ ] THAT'S MY SWEEPS ARE. DEADLY, RIGHT? YEAH. So I was like sweeping. I was. tee-peeing. I was like, boom. like. Tee-peeing? YEAH, YEAH. NAH, CUZ LOOK. NAH, I I I THINK I GET. why you did that cuz obviously when.

there's like older brothers coming in, that there's more people watching. yeah. don't want to get beat up. No one. wants to get beat up in in like their. their like respective thing, you know? Yeah, yeah. I think for me, at that time. when I was a kid, this is when I was. like I was a little bit of a demon. I'm. not going to lie. Like I didn't really. care. I was kind of a bully, I guess. You. could say I was a bully. But in my. This is what I was thinking. I was. thinking like, "Yo, if if he's going to. if he's going to if his dad's going to. come up to me and tell me that, it. should be him.".

Rather than his dad. If he came up to me. and said that, Yeah. 100 respect. Yep. You get me? 100. Bare respect. Bare respect. But the fact. that had to be somebody like his dad, somebody like that, it's just like I. don't know. Why why couldn't you tell. say that yourself? Yeah, that's true. Like I I I understand. why you did that. I would have done the. same thing. [ __ ] up [ __ ] all that noise, man. You know? And I think. Growing up though, I do feel I do feel. like maybe I shouldn't have done that. And I do kind of regret like I should.

have given him a better experience. Yeah. But I never let that one thing. Yeah. be like his whole experience training. Like I would still train I would still. like work with him like really try and. build him up. But it was just that event. like I don't I don't know. I I felt like. a demon there. No, I get that. And I've I've been. extremely humbled. Yeah. one time when. I went to another gym to spar. And you. know when you go into another gym, you. got to act like you're good, Mhm. right? So I I went against this Olympic like. person, right? Yeah. And during sparring during.

sparring, we just doing drills, right? We're just doing the kick after kick. And I was kicking this guy mad hard. In. my head, I'm like, "Let me assert. dominance. Let me let me show what this. guy got." This is only during practice. Yeah. And and the master and my master is. like, "Gavin, if he's if you kick him. that hard, guess what he's going to do? Yeah, that's true. times harder." That's so true. So what. happened? Well, we actually got into a. match, beat the [ __ ] out of him. Ba ba. I was getting like Olympic. treatment. This guy turned into. Olympian.

That was like one of the I I became. extremely humbled after that, bro. You. know? In in Muay Thai especially, it's a. very. When when you see Taekwondo and Muay. Thai fight, Muay Thai they stand in. front of each other and just trade and. just trade. So when you're sparring, you. never want to go like full force cuz. you're going to get the exact same thing. back. You're not moving nowhere cuz. you're right there. You get me? You're. right there. You're going to get hit. You're getting hit no matter what. So whenever I spar, I'm like, "Okay, I. got to give him a little bit of this, a. little bit of this.".

But I really hold back on like. full-fledged power. Especially if you're. fighting with Doug, at some points, Yeah. because there wasn't a lot of. younger people in Muay Thai, Yeah. I was. sparring with adults, bro. I was. sparring with adults. And these adults. are way stronger than me. So they're. going to hurt me if I if I go too hard, even though I'm a kid like If a little. kid hit you hard, you're going to hit. them back. And they have like a little bit less. respect for you, you know what I mean? For sure. So I remember this one time. Mhm. [ __ ] I still hate this guy to this. day. Yeah, yeah. There was this there was. this guy holding pads for me.

Uh-huh. And and you see some dumb [ __ ]. No, I was holding pads for him first. Okay. holding pads for him first. He was. saying some dumb [ __ ] He's like, "Oh, yeah. I used to train at the old gym.". Like, "Yeah, I was there too." Blah blah. blah. Yeah, I was there too. Anyways, he's. like, "Yeah, I I I bet I could beat your. ass." Blah blah blah. That's what he. said. He said, "I bet I could beat your. ass." No, that that's Why why you got to. say that, right? Well, I'm just I'm. helping you train. Yeah. Helping you train. My turn to hit pads. Okay. My turn to hit pads. I gave him smoke. I You've seen me kick. the bag. I literally kicked it way.

harder than that and made sure he felt. it. So Yeah. it became to the point. where he was like, "Okay, bro. I get it. I get it.". Yeah. He said it. He said it so, "Okay, I get it. I get it, bro. I get it. You. can kick hard.". Yeah. And like if you gave me the. respect in the beginning, this wouldn't. have been a problem. But now you got to. hold it for me. I get it. No, I got. that. And I don't think we've ever told. this story on I think we've only told. this on Stereo. Yeah, yeah. Which one? So when I was sparring Carlos, I I hit him with a jab Yeah. and his nose started bleeding. Right? And he goes into the washroom. He he.

gets the tissues and stuff like that. And it's the respect thing. He comes out. the washroom, says the scariest [ __ ] to me. He's like, "Okay, let's go now." I'm like, "Oh, fuck." No, I said it so, "Okay, I got to. get you for that. I said I got to get. you for that." He said "Okay, I got to. get you for that now." I'm like, "Oh, fuck." It's one of those ones like, "Oh, if I hit you hard, he's going to hit me. back hard.". Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. It's a. it's a mutual it's a respect thing. It's. a respect thing. It's like, "Okay, okay. You got that. Okay, now it's your turn. Now it's your turn.". Exactly. Right? And you know what happened, you know, I. gave you a bloody nose, you know. And.

then you. you gave me a nice liver shot. But yeah, you know. Chill chill chill chill chill chill. chill chill chill chill chill chill. chill. Don't ever do THAT AROUND ME. DON'T EVER DO THAT. WE'LL SCRAP. We'll drop five points and. we'll scrap. No, but but it's it's cool cuz like in. the the fighting vlog, you can see our. art forms kind of Mhm. kind of. differentiate cuz I was going around you. and you're just. you're just there. Yeah, yeah. I was there.

No, but I was counter I was counter. punching. If you guys see that vlog, Yeah, go look at it right now. Yeah, if you guys see that vlog, I'm not. going to I'm not going to be like I'm. not going to gas myself. I'm just going. to say I'm going to say this. I I really. just I didn't try to like go hard. All. right. try to be like a oh, I got to like look. good. Yeah. You never do that. You never do. that. You never I never want to do that. No matter what in sparring cuz you never. want to [ __ ] up your homie. Yeah, exactly. You never want to [ __ ]. with your homie. You get me? Like I. don't want to do that to you and then. like you look embarrassed and [ __ ]. Never that. Never that. So if I ever if. I ever spar somebody, you're going to.

get treatment, but you're not going to. be like. on the floor knocked out viral. Exactly. Exactly. You're not going to. yeah. Exactly. And I respect that cuz. once we're on the camera and you you. post it, anything can go, you know? Hundreds of people are seeing this, you. know? Yeah, so I never like I never kick it. up. I never do that. But if it if it's. an actual fight, that's why that's why. if you see me train on the bag and then. see me spar in person, two different. stories. Yeah. Two different stories. You'll see. me like go full-fledged, full speed, full power. But when we're sparring like. I really hold You get me? Just just for.

fun. Just for fun. Now yeah, my toxic. trait. I'll get some highlights. Like. I'm not going to lie. I want to look. good in front of the camera. But. obviously, I'm not going to [ __ ]. knock you out. Mhm. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, especially when. training with like Taran and then Miles. and stuff. It just it just looks worse because they. can't they can't defend it. But I'm. really not hitting them hard. I really. wasn't hitting them hard. Okay, is it Oh, yeah. Is it wrong for if. you do get a great shot and you knock. out your homie like your homie, is it. okay to post that on your story? Nah. It's not? Nah, it's not. Okay. Cuz cuz just look.

at this. How would you feel if I posted. you knocked out? Uh Yeah, you'd feel. Yeah, come on. Yeah, but but but I would I would do the. same thing though. That's why that's why. I said there's Don't ever do that. You. never I gave you a bloody nose, Sam. You've never gave me a bloody nose. I. get bloody noses all the time when I. spar though. Okay, that's that's true. If I didn't get a bloody nose, I didn't. spar hard enough. You get me? You know what I hate though? Those guys that you'll hit very softly. and and he'll get no hits on you, but. then he'll become like he'll turn into.

You know when in Mario, like you'll hit. a boss and then he becomes angrier? Oh, he gets like level two level two. But. you're not going hard, but he'll go hard. super hard. Who? No, I'm not going to obviously say. the name, but Oh, yeah. I know who Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You know exactly who. I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like you'll hit. him with a few shots and then he'll be. like, Yeah, yeah. That's why That's why you. just got to pepper him up cuz cuz if you. get peppered, you'll get annoyed, but. you won't get angry. You'll get annoyed. You'll get annoyed. That's exactly it. You'll you'll hit him.

with like a thing and he's like, "Yo, good job, man. You good job.". Yeah, you got you got to give him like a. You got to You got to be happy, feel me? In anything. If if I'm if I'm if we're. playing any sport, Mhm. let's say we're playing basketball. and you just like imagine LeBron playing. with you. Yeah. LeBron would crush you, right? Obviously. Obviously. LeBron would crush you. But this is what. I think. If LeBron's playing with you, he's not going to use. his full power. He's not going to go. full slam out there, by the way. Yeah. Or maybe he does. Who knows? Maybe.

he does. But just knowing a person with. all of that, Yeah. like let's say there's a real. superhero in the world. Mhm. Everyday life, he's probably not. going to use his powers like that unless. like it calls for it, right? true. But but during sparring, can you. agree with this? If you want that person. you're sparring to to really go hard and. train you cuz you don't learn anything. if he's going so soft. Mhm. Is that is. that Do you believe in that? Yeah, no. That that's exactly it. That's exactly. it. If you want to turn up, just turn it. up. That's it. You'll get what you. receive, period. You'll get what you. receive. Because like you see in Miles,

he always sparred you. Yeah, yeah. He got better. He got way. He got way better, bro. Cuz he was. sparring a good person. Yeah. He got way. cuz he learned. He learned. Exactly. And. I think no matter what in life, In life, yeah. I was going to say. If. you put yourself in the harsh. environments to learn, you will become a. monster because you grew up in that. harsh environment. If you're stuck in. your comfort zone, if you're stuck in. your little bubble, it's very hard to. grow here. Yep. Right? You're trapped. Very small. If you put a wild dog in a.

cage, Yeah. that dog will be smaller than the. wolves outside. For sure. And that's. real. That's scientific fact. If you. take an orca whale and put it in a zoo, that whale will be smaller than the. whales outside in the water in the wild. Yeah. It's the exact same thing in life. If you want to grow, you got to be. outside of your cage. Yeah, real [ __ ]. If you want to roll with the the wolves, you turn into a wolf. Exactly. Yeah. So everyone out there, you got to. do one thing that that's outside your. comfort zone this year, man. I believe. in you. Yeah, everybody. Even if it's.

just a little thing. Look look look. look. Yeah. This is important. This is. important. Even if it's just a little. thing like, "Oh, I'm kind of nervous to. order something on the menu. Oh. I'm I'm Or or usually my dad orders. for me. Let me let me order this time.". If it's little things like that, yeah, do it. Do it because it'll make you more. make you that person. Cuz even sometimes. your parents might be introverted. Maybe. your your parents might be shy type. Yep. Then you If you want to change. yourself, then you got to go ahead and. make those steps or you're just going to.

be like everybody else. For sure. Yeah, you it's got to be the. you that goes out it. Yeah. And that's. crazy that you said that the ordering. one cuz my cousin, I hated him for this, but it actually actually you hate made. me to like the person I am today. Like. whatever you're ordering, I was so. small, but he's like Gavin order for all. of us. What? Like what? I'm like oh oh. oh oh oh, but like after a few tries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could order easily now. That's good. so small like such a small thing, but it. does make you extroverted way. It does. It really does especially when you're a. kid and you drill it right away. And I.

think one of the worst things is when. your parents were always like oh don't. talk to strangers. Don't talk to. strangers, eh? Okay, but. Cuz no, but then it becomes everybody is. closed off or you shouldn't talk to. anybody. Yeah. I don't think you should. necessarily don't talk to strangers. I. think it's just keep your guard up. That's that's what I would teach my. kids. Just don't talk to the creepy people. Like people at your school, yeah, talk. to them, bro. Yeah, yeah. me? I say talk to everybody in my. opinion. Now, honestly talk to talk to. everybody, but be smart. Yeah.

But be smart because the more you the. more people you learn about, the more. people you meet, the less you'll be. prejudiced, the less you'll be judgy, the less you'll be even judgy on. yourself because you know how other. people feel. Yeah. Right? That's true. I think the worst thing is. when people become so um they feel like. they're being judged just because they. don't know how everybody else thinks. Oh, that's insecurity. Yeah, like the. the fact of you thinking you're being. judged all the time when you didn't even.

get to get the opinion of everybody. else. How do how do they think? How do. they think? How do they think? Yo, you're not going to know. You don't have. that preconception. You know what I. mean? Don't don't think right away. everybody's judging you. Nobody's really. looking. Yeah. That has no one in it. Nobody's really looking. just the I think the main character. syndrome. The main character syndrome? Yeah, you always think like you're the. the the attention. You're always like. number one spotlight, you I see I think. I'm not going to lie. Sometimes I do get. main character syndrome. 100% but you.

should never let that be um you should. never let that make your own decisions. You have you have me? You should never. let that push you into a one way or. another. Like your main character. syndrome, just do exactly what you want. to do. No influence. That's hard though. That's very tough cuz you're always. you're always influenced by something. Your emotion could be your emotions, but. it's for you to control it. So the. people that that can't, they have to. make it out of emotion, you know? So how. do you how do you say that? to learn. See? You got to learn. No, that's what it is. You have to There's.

there's no way you can just go um. I say okay, pick up some skates and go. play hockey. Yeah. I mean nobody's going. to. You know what I mean? Like unless you. learned it got the fundamentals, you'd. be able to do it, but you got to baby. steps. Do a little bit of this, try. skating, and then pick up the stick, you. know? Nah, real [ __ ] That's how it goes. Yeah, that's true. I will end it there. I'll thank you everyone for watching. this episode of Jumpers Jump Podcast. Make sure you hit the links in the bio, follow us on Instagram, comment, like, all that good stuff. sure to listen on Spotify, Apple, all. that.

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