ASIAN GHOST STORIES W/ YOUTUBE LEGENDS JUSTKIDDINGFILMS & TIM CHANTARANGSU - EP.125

This recorded at Spotify Studio in LA. Yo, for real? This is like dream right. here. Is it? I swear to God, like the reason the. reason I want you guys on the pod was. y'all are the reason we're on YouTube. Oh, shut up. [laughter] I for real. No, like for real. How old were you guys when you guys. first saw our stuff? So my babysitter.

watched Tim. So I think she was the first one to put. me on to like Asian YouTube at the time. Wait, how old were you when you were. getting babysat? I was like, yo, I think it was like. grade one, grade two. Sheesh, that's like seven. Yeah, like something like that. And your babysitter was sharing his. content with you. No, she would watch it. [laughter]. She would watch it and then like I would. watch it too cuz like, oh [ __ ] I'm just. watching what she's watching. Right. And then as we grew older, I started. watching you guys all the time. And of. course like Ryan Higo. Yo, Asians ran. YouTube for a long time.

We did. Yeah, we did. BUT THE WHIES TOOK OVER. GODDAMN [laughter] WHITEIES. GODAMN WHITEIES. And that was like almost an empire. And. then I kind of missed that, right? I. kind of missed that. And right now there. definitely is a lot of Asian creators, but it doesn't seem as so prominent. It's not connected. This is what I miss. is back in the day when we first. started, everyone knew each other. Everyone did shows together. So when a. bunch of the Asian schools, I mean the. universities, like the Asian clubs, Chinese club, Asian club, whatever, they.

would invite us and then randomly it. would be like, "Oh [ __ ] Tim's here or. like you know, Ryan's here or whatever.". Like other people are there and it was. just um a community. It felt like a community. Now it's like. there's like isolated groups and of. course when you're getting hella busy. and then you know college money ain't. good enough or whatever like. they're not going to do the shows. Yeah. you know, and it was a perfect. storm cuz back then it was every college. show was a variety show. So, literally like musicians, rappers,

like comedians, like. all of us would be on the same show. But I think now maybe like I don't know. each genre grew big. So, if it's just. going to be a music thing, it might be a. few selection. It like niched out. Yeah. Nich out. And well, you think about it is I feel. like there wasn't a whole lot of us back. then. You know what I'm saying? like a. big part of why I think we got. as as much support as we did in the. beginning and then we were always kind. of like we were like yo we need to. support each other literally these fools. like in the beginning. I saw them doing their thing and I hit.

them up I'm like yo y'all should come. eat at my family's restaurant just so we. could be like yo let's connect let's. talk about how we can work together [ __ ]. like that now I'm like who the [ __ ] are. these Asians I'm [laughter] like you I. saw you on my for you page I'm like who. are these two who are these little young. bucks [laughter]. I do remember when we. No, no. When we first started, we were. like, "Yeah, Asians, go pursue your. dreams.". And then I started seeing Asians. pursuing their dreams. And I was like, "Yo, you guys stop PURSUING YOUR DREAMS. [laughter] SATURATING the market. Like, you guys are taking our jobs. Nobody.

know who we are anymore. Now we got. these two. I'm like, "Mother, dude, we're just we're joking." Of course. Yeah, of course. All of Always. But. [laughter] I have a question. I have a. question for you guys. Like, who. inspired you to start? Like, who's who. inspired you all to start? Who are you. guys looking up to? Not having us. Like one of one of our inspirations was. how come all the Asian comedians are. [ __ ] not funny. Bobby was funny. [laughter]. But I actually knew him more for comedic. acting cuz of Matt TV. And then I.

actually went to a standup show and I. was like, "Whoa, this guy's crazy.". Right. And then I did this all on Tiger Belly, too, where I printed out the picture we. took back in the day and I'm all like, "Dude, that's that was us.". Damn, what a groupy, right? I know. And I'm like, "No, I'm on. your show." Right. But there there was I think back then. when they did their circuit, a lot of. Asians weren't coming out to the show. So they had to do it for mainstream. America. So their jokes had to be. self-deprecating. Their jokes had to be. like something that white, black, Mexican can understand and go, "Ah, that. shit's hilarious." So when we were.

growing up, we're like, "How come we. don't have a in Living Color or like a. Mad TV that's like Asian style?" Yeah. And then that's when we started creating. content that was for us, you know, cuz we we tried to get the Avengers. today. Like I think we we also invited. uh Fung Bros. They're in New York, though. We tried to get the Ryan Higa. He's too busy. But I'm glad we got you. guys. He's in Vegas, too. He's in Vegas. You guys got the most free and not busy. [laughter] Asians from the old. No, but this is our perfect This is.

perfect. Y'all are the ones we really really. want. No, [laughter] I'm not going to lie. Like, so I've I've been turning down a. lot of people cuz I, you know, wifey. just had a baby. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, bro. And I'm like I've been telling people. like honestly like if it's not for a. bag, like I'm not leaving the house. You. know what I'm saying? Like this is like. the crazy time. All the baby's doing is. like sleeping and [ __ ] like. cheating. My 2-year-old is super hyper. I'm like, I'm not going nowhere. But when I seen the DM from you guys. and you guys wrote a very nice paragraph. be like, "Yo, you know, we look up to. you, blah, blah, blah. Like we're trying.

to get the, you know, the Avengers, whatever together." And I was like, "All. right, man." Like I feel like I should. support the the young booties coming up. You know what I'm saying? I appreciated. the love. I appreciated that y'all. showed love and like um and kind of like. bigged us up, you know? I was like, man, all right. All right. All right. And. like, let me get some of this. Let me. get some of this young clout. [laughter]. That's true. Like, it works both ways, too, right? And that's one thing I don't. want people to forget is to forget our. OGs. Forget like where it all started. from cuz dead, y'all really started it.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like when we first. started, like I think the whole first. generation of tubers. Yeah. Like Yeah. There was like the whole Asian uh. community and then we would have like. our fellow like black YouTubers, white. YouTubers, and like Hispanic YouTubers, right? And then they would see us like, "Man, that shit's so dope. You guys have. these college shows that you guys all. get to go to and they don't have those. shows that they get booked at.". But then I would tell them, I'm like, "But yo, but you guys got other people. passing down the torch. You got Denzel. passing it down to whoever. You got. rappers passing it down to whoever, right?" I'm like, "Who do I have?".

[ __ ] Jackie Chan doesn't even speak. [laughter] English. Manny Pacquiao. Literally our generation, this is we're. the first. to be able to pass it down to someone. So like I'm like him. Like I'm busy now. I got a kid and I usually say no to. everything. But if it has to do with the Asian. community, then I'm always down for it. Yeah, bro. Unless they're [ __ ] corny. I don't. like the corn. [laughter]. We could look corny. No, let me tell you. I think somebody. sent me a clip of y'all one of your. TikToks because you guys you guys were. talking about the Ninja Turtles and they. were like I [ __ ] with Ninja Turtles. So.

I was like okay. I was like hey I I see. these guys. I see these. Okay cool cool. So of course I had seen the um I y'all. are always on my for you page on Tik Tok. viral. Like honestly when we first. started we didn't think it was going to. be this big at from the start. First. episode viral second episode viral. I'm. like holy [ __ ]. What what got you guys starting? So we. got it started from. the first from first episode you went. viral. No, I think it was second because our. first episode still good, bro. You know. how many videos we took [laughter]. before we got viral? No, we were trying to go viral. You know.

what I mean? Cuz I think we have we have so much more. accessibility cuz we have freaking Tik. Tok now. It's different. The social. media game is so different. I feel like. it's easier especially for like new. people to come up. And we're just so. blessed at the right timing cuz. quarantine happened. and we weren't doing [ __ ] I mean I was. in school. I was in business management. I was going to become an entrepreneur. I'm like, [ __ ] I'm doing all this all. this work. And it didn't feel like it's. really my passion. So, okay. I got into street wear and I had my own. streetear brand. Okay.

So, when I started that, I had to rely. on paying money to influencers to promo. me, right? So, I'm like, [ __ ] I I don't want to. keep paying money to influencers. Why. don't I just become the influencer? Right. Right. And it was always a dream of mine. watching y'all growing up, you know what. I mean? So, I'm like, [ __ ] it. Let's do. it. What am I good at? I guess I like. talking. First episode, boom. I think I said like. a ghost story. Okay. And that [ __ ] went viral. It just came up naturally. Like I just. talked about conspiracy theories and. then he just hypes me up all the time. Like yo, it's perfect. So the dynamic dynamic was there still.

Your ghost story is real. [laughter]. Ghost stories real. You want to hear. these notes? Wait, what kind of Asian are you guys? Filipino. All right. All right. I was going to say. Filipinos always got ghost stories. Yo, [laughter] Filipinos do have ghost. stories. Y so y'all so spooky. What's a Filipino ghost? Are they like a. boo? [laughter]. Do they come out and [ __ ] say [ __ ] like. that? I will [ __ ] box you. [ __ ] You tell me. Y'all have any ghost stories? Actually, you probably seen one in Hawaii. Really? No. I want to know a Filipino ghost.

Tell us. Tell us about a Filipino ghost. story, dog. Tell me the time that it. felt the most real. Okay. I don't want to hear no [ __ ] leaves. blowing in the wind. No, no, no. This [ __ ] is I want to leave. here feeling like I'm going to get. haunted. Okay, bet. Ready? I have proof, too. Okay, I have a picture. So, check this. out. So, in Toronto one year, we had a crazy. ice storm. Craziest ice storm ever. It was on the. news and everything. Is that every year? No, [laughter] no, no, no. This one was. different. This one was bare cold, fam. This one was different.

So, my aunt, she uh my tita, she she's a. photographer, and she takes like. pictures of flowers and stuff, but. during the ice storm, she zoomed in. super super close on this like icicle on. a tree branch. Okay. Right. Super close with like a macro. lens. Mhm. She took a picture of it [snorts]. and what she saw was a face of a woman. like clear as day and and. [clears throat] the face it actually. looked like almost Asian like a Asian. woman. on the flower or in the icicle.

In the icicle itself in the I'm going to. show you the picture. Oh, please do. Yeah. What's crazy? What's crazy, right? Leading up to that. Yeah. She we already know she has like a. six sense because as a child she would. see like certain things even in the. Philippines. You can't keep her around, man. [laughter]. You got to keep people like us around. Yeah. So we can see all the. Yeah. Spookies. Yeah. She has a lot of stories of those. like she'll she'll she's super sensitive. to spirits. Now leading up to that she had. nightmares and she would see this exact. woman. Oh god.

The same woman that's in the ic. [laughter]. I'm going to show you a picture. Show. me. Yeah. Show us the picture. and then swipe right and show us the. dickpick. [laughter]. Show us show us the dickpick WITH. [laughter]. YO, imagine you said a dickpick to a. girl. She's like, "Yo, what is that. spirit?" [laughter]. Why is there an Asian lady on your. penis? That's a veiny demon. [laughter]. Hold up. I got to pull it up. I I showed. this picture to almost everybody I know, bro. Yeah. I think this is the first one that like.

people were like questioning us like, "Yo, is this actually real?" Like and. that's where we would. in my family or maybe this is a Chinese. theme, but in Chinese it's like the. ghost sensor is usually the dog. Yeah. So like everyone's just chilling, everything's cool, and then you just got. a dog's. going crazy. Like then it's like, "Oh. [ __ ] is there like a ghost around? They. can sense.". I think like cats too, like just animals. in general, like maybe they're hyper. sensitive to that. You got the picture? I have the picture. You ready? All right. This is not photoshopped. Okay. Okay. What am I looking at? I swear to God it's not photo.

That's real. I swear to God. Am I. looking at? Look at this [ __ ] face. Shut up. NO. LIE. [screaming]. NO LIE. SHUT the [ __ ] up, dude. Oh my [laughter] god. That's not. nothing, bro. That looks JUST LIKE MY. MOM. That's literally my mom. Why is your aunt taking pictures of [ __ ]. like. No, it just popped up. It just popped up. What is What am I looking at? A [ __ ] face. No, but what's that orange thing? No, it's like a orange sperm. It's No, no, no. It's like a So, look. You can see it's a branch. No, this is.

not even a branch, bro. It's It's so. small. It's one of those like uh little. like a [ __ ] willow. You know what I'm. talking about? And then and then it's. super zoomed in. This with a macro lens, bro. Can I give you some science, though? What? That's the reflection of your aunt. No, bro. The camera like this. [laughter]. Japanese with a white face. That's crazy. Check this out. Right. So, she brought. it to a psychic. Oh, she brought it to a psychic, like a. medium. Yeah. Okay. And she told her, "Yo, like there's.

multiple spirits in this picture, not. just one.". So, I couldn't see more. More than one. She tried showing me more and I I. couldn't I couldn't really see it. myself. Why are they doing Why are they trapped. in the ice? They should make this the [ __ ] bot. validator. How many faces you [laughter]. see? And why did she go to a medium and not a. large psychic though? Cuz you got to you got to go to the ones. [laughter] with the large. psych powers. Yo, but but apparently there's like a.

there's like a dog spirit in there. There's like a there's a baby and then. there's like a man, right? Were they killed by the cold and it's. captured into the the icicle or. Well, we don't know. So, my theory my. theory is that because uh [ __ ] it's. Canada, right? So, that's native land. and she's Japanese clearly though. We don't know. Natives have. She might do it. Looks like Inuit, dude. Yeah, she does look like she's in into it. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter].

Do you guys know the the theory why we. have like small eyes? Sandstorms. about that. Yeah. Like Gobi Desert or some [ __ ]. [ __ ] yeah. And I can [ __ ] like I. could confirm cuz I was on my moped the. other day. [laughter] Rain was pouring. down like [ __ ] crazy, right? And I was like squinting like this and. [laughter] I can still see and I'M ALL. LIKE THIS IS WHY. you're stupid. I'm so grateful to be. Asian. Yeah. Can you imagine being like a. [ __ ] Mongolian Mongolian raider and. you're just on the horse and just like. I'm about to ass.

I do believe in spirits and [ __ ] though. like and I do believe like babies and. pets can kind of see things. So whenever. I be holding the baby at night trying to. rock her to sleep or him to sleep now. whenever they do like a. oh [ __ ] their eyes like wander I go stop. playing [laughter] man chill chill chill. chill chill chill I'm like what what do. you see right now relax close her eyes. like Uhuh. I'm not trying to mess with. I never had a close encounter like never. my lady sees she sees a ghost time. Yeah.

like in front of you like. no she tells me um so one time we were. at the Luxor in Las Vegas. Yeah. And um. we got. she saw Pharaoh. funny though [laughter]. the body exhibit. She told me after we we had some. passionate love making. She was like I. was scared shitless. And I'm like why? There was a dark figure watching us the. whole time. [ __ ] jerking off in the corner. Probably. [laughter]. How come she didn't tell you? I know. Dirt. Maybe that's her king. A ghost watching. She doesn't Maybe she said she sees them.

all the time. Um, the weirdest one was. uh we were by the projects one time. driving by and then she goes, "Oh my. god, there's a lot." And I was like, "What if there's like a lot of like. murders that happen, gang violence, whatever, and then they're just there.". Do you think it's cuz she's a ginger and. she doesn't have a soul that other souls. are trying to come into her body? They're [laughter] trying to go inside. No, but uh. she got that indigenous white power, you. know? [laughter]. I um I talked to a old man on a plane. one time. Yeah. And he used to tell me he saw spirits.

all the time. Like he used to say to the. point where it would get annoying like. he'd have to be like please leave me. alone [laughter] cuz they were like oh. he said he would be driving through. intersections where maybe somebody got. into a car accident and died and then. he'd be at the red light trying to chill. and they'd be like oh you can see me you. can see me. Hi. And he'd be like no no. no. And he just drive. he did not feel like talking to them. You know what I'm saying? The closest I. thought I would say is um so I we went. to Germany, me and Gio, my my wife, um. maybe like a few years ago, like 2018 or. something, 2019.

And uh we visited uh a concentration. camp. Yeah. And because you know what. happened there. the minute we walked in like it just. felt cold and wet and dark and um I had. like this crazy like goosebumps and like. you know the the hair on the back just. stands up. and as you're just walking around that. place it just feels like man this place. ain't right. There's definitely a vibe. to things, right? Like I I bet you some. place that had murders in it, you you'll feel something cuz maybe.

maybe you maybe if a soul's not. finished. That's what I'm thinking. Like maybe. ghosts are just souls that get trapped. there because [ __ ] they weren't they. weren't ready. They're like staying. back. Solved business. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But I remember seeing that vlog when you. guys after the concentration camp, you. guys were like just there. Yeah. And you guys were like like you. guys were shocked. Like you didn't know. what to see. I didn't know a place could. like make me feel like that, you know, cuz it's different when reading it in. like history books or whatever, but. going there and then you're just like, "Oh, shit's [ __ ] crazy.".

No, because a spirit actually affects my. family. So, uh, in the Philippines, my. aunt lives under like under her house is. a healer, like a little goblin type. thing in the Philippines. So, what y'all call that in Tagala? Um, I don't know. Who we call her again? I don't know. We just call it healer. That's what we said. But then um the. healer loved my aunt, right? And so she. didn't like him back. It was like some. kind of drama thing. And she moved to. Canada. So the healer told her, "Before. you go, if you don't fall in love with. me, I'm going to set a curse on your.

family." Right. S. Ghost. So my my aunt and my uncle now who are. married, my my uncle was super like he athletic. like he did all these things like he. runs marathons. now in a wheelchair. randomly. No. in a wheelchair. He can barely like get. out words. He ain't a healer. He's a damager, dude. That's fact. But he has that capacity to do that. [ __ ] though. Wow. And you don't know the medical. reason or. No, we don't. There's like. none that guy. This Filipino healer. This is like.

something that's like known amongst like. uh that's just something y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is probably everywhere. I I don't. know if it's the same as a Reiki. It. might be, but like they do like energy. healing, you know, the crystals and. [ __ ] Yeah, you guys believe in that? Hell no, bro. [laughter] But what I do. believe in how I believe uh human the. placebo effect. So I believe that humans. are their imagination so good that they. can make anything real. So if let's say. like the the healer, right, if you.

believe that the healer can put a curse. on you, then it could stress you out to. the point where you become sick. Yeah. So then that's that's kind of what I'd. believe. But I don't know. My So my mom. has all kinds of [ __ ] healer. Like. she knows a time traveler. X-Men X-Men homies. Yeah. Because my mom. likeies [laughter]. all her homies [ __ ] This one got. special powers. This one can see the. world. Right. The one that's the trippiest cuz like I. call all that [ __ ] out all the time. And. I don't believe any of that stuff. But. the one that's the trippiest, she has. this one home girl that I think does.

people's taxes but also but also sees. your future. [laughter]. She got turbo tax business. Turbo. All in one building. All in one. building. Yeah. She's like, "You about to get. audited." [laughter]. Yeah. Combo. Turbo. So, she's like this fun expert. Oh, yeah. And what's trippy about her is um when I. first every time like we I move into a. new place or get a new house. My mom. wants to get the place blessed. So, I left my mom for the first time.

when I was I think. 16. I got kicked out of school. I end up. living with my dad. Mhm. And so my mom wanted to see if that. place would be good for me. And so we go there. and this lady's in Diamond Bar, which. like a city in uh in LA. You tell her the address and she just. starts like sketching. Like she just starts sketching the. house. Yeah. She sketched the house. You. know, my dad's house, right? Yeah. Starts sketching the house and then. she's like, "Okay, so there's a parking. space here on the right. Um someone. parks here and she starts sketching and. she sketched the upstairs room like,

"Okay, there's a bedroom here. There's a. [laughter] master bedroom here." And I. was like, "What the fuck?" And then she. was like, "Oh, wait. Oh, there's a light. right here.". And that light is out all the time. And it is. You know how there's that. little grass area? There's a. Yeah. There's It's It's out. She goes, "You. have to put a light bulb there.". So that's one of the times where I was. like, "Oh [ __ ]. you would have never seen it.". No. But my mom is also. dumb. [laughter]. So she's one of those people that leaks. secrets without knowing. You know what I. mean? Like she'll be like, "Hey, can you.

help me?" So my son got arrested like. five times. He really she really he. really needs your help. And then the. person will be like, I have a feeling. your son gets in a lot OF TROUBLE. [laughter]. I KNEW IT. [screaming] I KNEW IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO MY mom's like. that, too. Yeah. Yeah. So I wouldn't be surprised if my mom. fed her all that information. Yeah. She probably like printed out. [ __ ] Google map. Can you look at this. house and see if you could bless. [laughter] it? So she got the blueprint memorized it. She might have even VISITED ONE DAY. THAT light bulb's always out, dude. cuz. I've seen my mom interact with these. people and I'm like my mom's a perfect.

sucker cuz she gives the secrets and. then when the other person just. regurgitates, she's like, "Oh my god, it's so real. So, you know, I do I high key like I do believe in um. especially old Asian psychics. I do. because like uh one time, bro, I. probably told y'all this on JK one time, but never told y'all this.". Uh, when I was like a kid in Thailand, like. probably 5 years old, my mom used to get. massages from this masseuse/ psychic. psychic [laughter].

side. They need a side hustle, right? And this woman, like, if it's so good, how come we don't. just have one gig? Yeah. What the [laughter] [ __ ] No one's. pay. No one believes her yet. Yeah. So, um, this woman, I was either five or. I don't know, I forget. I was young, though. She grabbed my arm and she's. like, "hm, he's going to get into a big. accident when he's 15.". And I was like, and I remember I was. probably like eight. Okay, maybe eight. cuz I was in Thailand when I was four. and I was eight. But anyways, and I. remember thinking impossible cuz I'm. going to be famous one day, right? [laughter]. As a little kid, I was like, have to do with it. No, because I remember thinking her. prediction doesn't make sense. I'm going.

to be famous. I'm not an accident. So when I was [ __ ] 15, I totaled my. dad's car, but I didn't make that. connection until like a year later. AND. I WAS LIKE, "OH [ __ ]. THAT psychic lady said I was going to. get into an accident. I didn't get I. didn't get hurt at all." And that's not. what she said. She didn't say I was. going to get hurt. She said I was going. to get into an accident. And I was like, "Wo, she was right." Or maybe it was. subconsciously in my head and I was. thinking about it without knowing it.

MANIFESTED [screaming]. manifested it. Manifested. Who knows, man? But I I do believe. Why? Why do you think Asians are so. superstitious like that, though? because. they don't have logic and reason in the. culture, [laughter] bro. No, no one. believes in science. You ever try to. talk to an Asian adult, they if they'll. hear a rumor, a newspaper article, [laughter] uh something that they heard. from a cousin, it's all facts to them. Like they don't separate any of that. [ __ ] [laughter]. And I'm just like, bro, like come on, man. You got to believe some stuff and.

make sure it's credible. And they're. like, my uncle is credible. [laughter]. Yeah. Yeah. Yo, my las, they always send me know, you know those like chain messages like. the Lord will will will keep you away. from heaven if you don't send this to. five people. I get those all the time, bro. WhatsApp. WhatsApp. [laughter] Yeah, the WhatsApp. It has to be on WhatsApp. Exactly. Yeah. Asian parents don't really know. how to text, man. It's like I'll um. [laughter] I'll they beg me for pictures. of my kids, right? And then I'll send. all these pictures and I expect them to. be like, "Oh, thank you. So cute.". Whatever. I'll send like 10 pictures of.

Veta and then my mom will send me a. video of like Tai Monks singing. I'm. like, "Can you This is not how text. work, Mom. You got to give me some back. and forth [laughter] reaction, please. Something, right?" And I'll be. like, I'll be like, "So, what you think, Dad? You got to You beg me for these. pictures. You got to give me some. feedback." He'll be like, "You know, we. love her." I'm like, "Okay, [laughter]. that's not how this [ __ ] works.". Do they write like it's an email? Like, "Hi, son." And then they write and then. they put sincerely. regards. I'm trying to tell my dad to. stop saying um okay period because I I'm.

trying to tell him that sounds like. you're depressed or you're angry. My mom does that too. Yeah. Like how are you guys today? Okay. Period. Or then [laughter] dot dot dot. dot dot dot. My mom dot dot dots all. day. I'm like what's wrong? Are you. okay? What do you what's on your mind? So if they all text that way in their. generation, maybe they think we're. weird. Yeah. Maybe we're grammatically. incorrect. Yeah. Like why is he sending me so much. exclamation points? [laughter]. So, right now, the economy has been a. roller coaster and no one knows what the. future holds. And I know a lot of you. guys have your own businesses and to.

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like from a kid you already knew you. were going to be famous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't It wasn't. manifestation. It was facts, dog. I just. knew it. You know what I'm saying? It. wasn't a belief. I just knew. But yeah. So, what got you into that though? Like. as a kid? just confidence [snorts]. straight off the bat or. Well, I mean, when I was like young and. I really kind of felt like I was really. Let's see. How old was I when that when. that psychic touched me? Uh, [laughter]. she straight up held you like that. She grabbed my wrist. That's how you know it was real. So, for me to be thinking those. thoughts, maybe I wasn't eight cuz I.

went to Thailand when I was four, eight, and 12. So, it might have been 12, right? When I was thinking. four years like that, that's just, you know, my parents had to. save up for trips to Thailand and [ __ ]. Um, so I'm thinking by 12 I was thinking. I wanted to pursue the entertainment. stuff. And I just kind of always knew that's. what I wanted to do. You know what I'm. saying? Once I would like be in I would. be in school doing like little school. plays and stuff like that and just. always trying to entertain people. And I. always thought like, okay, this is what. I'm going to do, right? Um, and I was like whenever people would. ask me, "What do you want to do when you. grow up? What do you want to be?" I'd be.

like, "I want to be famous. I want to be. actor." You know what I'm saying? So I. was like, "Okay, this is this is this is. part of the plan." cuz I feel like. people will be like, "Oh, I want to be a. doctor so they know what they have to do. to become a doctor." I'm like, "Okay, well, this is my plan. I'm going to do. this and this and that to reach this. ultimate goal, you know?" Yeah. So, that was always just in my head. Was there ever like an alternate. dimension, Tim? Like you you could think. back, oh [ __ ] I could have went down. this path instead. Yeah. I mean, there was a point where I. wanted to be like an animator. I like to. draw and [ __ ] There was a point where I. wanted to like.

design and animate for Disney. Uh, so. it's never too late, bro. I mean, never. too like, you know, who knows, man. These YouTube views are kind of so. [laughter]. here and there. I'll be sketching. sketching some [ __ ] here and there. How about you guys? Like from the start, you knew you wanted to get into content. creating. [ __ ]. I actually know you were you were a. Marine, right? Yeah. My [ __ ] was all accidental. Like I. would say. cuz like I think I was so you know when. you're like I feel like when you're on. social media like your view of the world. is a little bit bigger and you kind of.

see things that are going around, you. know, cuz you're [clears throat] just. connected. Yeah. I think for me, I was so like. zoomed in. I would say probably. technically my first inspiration was. probably Joe cuz he sent me the video. of, you know, drawing on the eyeballs. Yeah. I flipped the camera. [laughter]. So, I don't even know what entertainment. was. Like, I was so oblivious. I didn't. even know that there were no Asians on. TV. I BECAME A DOCTOR, BRO. I KNOW. I PULLED THEM OUT. I WAS LIKE, "WHAT THE HELL YOU DOING? YOU'RE A. DOCTOR." [laughter]. I was so zoomed in that I didn't know.

any of that stuff existed, you know? So. when he sent [clears throat] me that. video, I just thought it was a video. So I went. to go record Uncle Sam gets jacked just. to only send to him. and we would just go back and forth. So I thought I thought we're just. sending stupid things back and forth. until like we started getting comments. and views and then so it started zooming. out more. Wait, you didn't know it was public? I didn't know. We were using it like Vimeo like sharing. video. Yeah. Like we had um I don't know if you. know like back in the like photo bucket.

like on like if you wanted to customize. your MySpace or whatever, you can't just. upload a picture. You got to go to some other thing and. then get that HTML code and copy and. paste. IMG SRC. Yeah, exactly. So I thought uh YouTube was. photo bucket for for videos. So I would. just send them videos like that. Bro, it feels so ancient back then. [laughter]. YouTube wasn't monetizable. This was. 2007 all the way. I think 2008 is when. they rolled it out or nine. I want to say probably nine. Yeah. Right. But I remember you had to be. invited and it was they were just.

testing it out. But when we all first. started, it was just a stepping stone. Like most people used YouTube cuz they. just wanted to mess around or like do. random things. Everyone has different. stories, right? Like I was lonely. I. wanted friends. I just wanted to do. stupid videos. And then um it wasn't. until a little bit later on where you. saw like Michelle F and Ryan Higa and. Yahoo did this article of like these. guys are making a million dollars or. hundred thousand. I think it was like. less than that. It was like a Yeah. a. couple hundred thousand. But we were just like you could make.

money. Yeah. Same [ __ ] Um, when I started uploading. YouTube videos, it was because I was. just wanting to put videos on my MySpace. for my MySpace homies to laugh at, you. know, cuz me and and PD Flo and and the. homies, we were making little short like. stupid films, submitting them to. different film festivals um online film. festivals, right? But. his website like ran out of um. bandwidth. Oh [ __ ]. And then one day someone posted a. bulletin on MySpace. It was like, [snorts] lol, look at these white girls.

dancing to Laffy Taffy. Right. So I. clicked on it and I was like, "Okay, that's funny." But I was like, "Yo, this. website, anybody can post a video from. your phone and it'll give you a code to. put on your MySpace. That's crazy." So. then I was like, "Yo, PD Flow, let's put. our [ __ ] on here. You don't have to. worry about your website." So I started. putting little [ __ ] from my webcam, like freestyling or doing impressions or. whatever, just for the homies. And then. I accidentally kissed this just for the. homies. [laughter]. And then I started getting views and. comments. I was like, "Okay, this could. be something, you know." Okay.

Yeah. So, it took me a while to like zoom out. and then go. like I didn't even know what me and Joe. were doing was considered like comedy. I just knew we're doing stuff that made. each other laugh. It was just funny to you guys. It was just for fun and it was just like. from the heart, too. Yeah. It was just fun and then we're. just like imitating the characters uh. like that we saw. and then eventually when we started. creating like actual Just King films, that's when I started realizing, oh. [ __ ] we're actually doing some sort of. art form. And then that's when we. started like taking classes and stuff. and try to like really. Did you guys get made fun of by your.

friends when you first started because. it was so like the [ __ ] that you guys. did like no one. but also we did it to make them laugh. cuz we're doing comedy. We're doing. stupid stuff but also like I don't know. the people that. back then everything you did everyone. called you gay. [laughter]. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And for us, we were. just like, I don't care. Cuz everyone I. don't know, man. It was a different. time, you know. Yeah, it was. It was. I was lucky. My my good homies and my. still my homies to this day, we were all. famous now. We were all trying to do the.

same [ __ ] So, everybody was super. supportive. But when I'd be at work at. like I don't know when I was slanging. pizzas at California Pizza Kitchen and. someone would be like, "I saw your. video." BE LIKE, "OH GOD, WHAT. [laughter] DID YOU SAY? WHICH ONE? Oh my. god, what was I talking about?" Or if. I'm like at sometimes you be at a. kickback and someone will put on one of. your parties. I'M LIKE, "UGH, I'MMA. leave the room. Boom. That shit's. awkward. Actually, to this day, if. someone puts on one of my videos at a. function, I'm like, "Really?". Yeah. It's awkward for me. I don't like being. in the room when people are watching my. [ __ ]. What about your podcast? Still, you like listening to your own voice?

I don't like being in the room where. people are watching watching me cuz I'm. like, "What am I supposed to do?" Like, "Oh, watch this part. I'm. funny right here. Watch this.". [laughter]. You know what's the wor You know what's. the worst? So, uh, Gio's brother. Yeah. Um he loves playing our old videos. when we have a get together. and it's all Mexicans a ton a bunch of. like cholos and [ __ ] and then me and Joe. are have these [ __ ] out like Uncle. Sam Uncle Chin and we're like [ __ ]. paring like Usher or some [ __ ] and he's. [clears throat] just playing it on full. blast from like [laughter] mother. [ __ ].

the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] [laughter]. it's hilarious. and that was like your main like uh what. do you call this uh roles that you. played like the cholo. but it's got us a lot of crazy Texas. Like one of our biggest fans was this um. he was a stunt man for like all these. movies and one day he just said we're. going to watch a UFC fight. This was. right when we just started making those. stupid videos on YouTube. And he we were like around major celebs. and me and Bart were just like oh my god. how do I I want a picture with them but. I feel like I should take a picture with. them.

And then. he was out there like bringing everyone. into his bedroom watching JK stuff. Oo. Isn't that crazy? Like, cuz you never. know who's watching YouTube, who's. [ __ ] bored. I remember a mom came up to us and. Yeah, that was a moment. She had a son. and uh the son didn't know about it. He's like, "Who who the [ __ ] is this?". But the mom old as hell, like, "Yo, I. know these guys.". The phone camera to her son. Yo, can you. take a picture of us? Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. Let me tell y'all this, man. We've been. doing this [ __ ] for a long time, right?

This is my [ __ ] 17th year on YouTube, right? Yeah. I my my channel now start. 2006. Yeah. So. 16th. in se to S September. It'll be my 17th. year with that channel. And so I got a lot of people who watched. me when they were in elementary school, high school who got kids now. They're. like, "Hey man, you helped me get. through like high school. I watched you. through in college and this and that or. be like, "Oh my god, I remember I had. the biggest crush on you before I like.

when I was in junior high. I just. graduated college." I'M LIKE, "YO, WHAT. THE [ __ ] [laughter]. OLD AS [ __ ] When did this happen?" You. know, you forget cuz I feel like we're. so just always kind of cranking out. content. It's almost like a blur. Like I. look back on now, especially the super. popping, like the golden age of the. YouTube [ __ ] when we were like getting. booked for all these shows and we were. traveling and we're doing all this [ __ ]. [clears throat] I'm like, "This is like a completely different. life." It feels, you know, it's kind of. crazy to look back cuz I was like, you. know, like a year and a half I was just. turning up every week at some random. club and just traveling the world. And.

now I'm like, "Oh man, with these two. babies, like, oh, [ __ ] I can't even. meet the homies for sushi." You know? [laughter]. So, so say if your daughter said, "Oh, dad, I want to do YouTube." And say Tao. wants to do YouTube. Are you guys like, since you guys know all the stuff that. goes behind the scenes, how hard it is, would you recommend it or like. I'm 100% whatever he wants to do. Um, cuz I'm I'm not like close-minded like. my parents were. So, like I know that. anything is possible as long as you work. hard and you have like the good habits. And what's crazy is at his young age, he's technically born into it.

So I don't think he knows another life. Like like now like you know when you. when you start getting a little bit uh. more fame, you kind of you have this. radar for the eye, you know, where you. look at someone like, "Oh, that guy was. going to want a picture in about 5. minutes.". Tika has the eye. Really? He'll literally go, "Hey, Dad, he wants. to take a picture.". No way. [laughter] That's crazy. Because he's used to it. And what's. crazy is he'll like like smile for the. camera. [laughter] Like he knows he's. going to be in the picture. So I don't. think he can process. Yeah. He can't. process that like maybe his dad's famous.

or the family's famous cuz of the vlog. or whatever. But that's his world. His world is for. some reason a lot of people know who we. are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think you know uh for Veta you. know I think it's a little different for. guys and girls in the space right. I. would definitely I want to make sure I. raise a super confident don't give a. [ __ ] ass girl because to be in this. space. you know people are mean you know I. think even even us like we don't give a. [ __ ] now but like. hurt sometimes.

especially remember in the beginning. when you first started when you would. hit like a a most viewed page or some. [ __ ] like that and then you get the. influx of new people who don't know who. we are so they just talking [ __ ]. CALLING OUT TO FIGHT. YEAH you we used to reply to everybody. like you know reply [laughter]. I look three burner. I be trying to. preach like you guys, you know what? You. can't waste your time worrying about. what some random kid in Wyoming thinks. But sometimes I'll be in bed with Chia. I'll be scrolling. I read a comment. I'm. like, take my laptop out. [laughter]. Hold on a second, BABY. LET ME REPLY TO.

this [ __ ] real quick. I [ __ ]. your mom, [laughter]. you know, and it happened, right? So, I. feel like a girl in the space, it's so. much more you got to deal with, right? I. think we learned to get tougher skin, but girls, you know, I think, you know, not only are people going to. attack who you are, they're going to. attack your uh body, you know, physically, there's so much. So, I think. I want to make sure she goes into it. with some proper mental health if she's. really trying to do that [ __ ]. That's a big thing right now, too. Once.

uh ever since Instagram social media got. really popular, the the rise of like Gen. Z female suicide went up. Oh, for real? Yeah. cuz it just [ __ ] with the youth. like crazy. I mean like you know most of. their worth is like in their looks, right? I mean like that's what society. tells them. So they're like I don't look. like these girls. And I'm like damn that's so sad. They're. all filters and AI. Dude, you want to hear some crazy [ __ ] dog? Chia's nephew. I remember when he was. like in high school, junior high coming. up, he told me cuz you know he he got a. little followers or whatever just from.

like I I put him in a vlog, whatever, whatever. So he told me that like now. how it works when the kids are in. school, you know, when we were in. school, you were popular if you were, I don't. know, funny, good-look, one of those. And people liked you, right? That type. of [ __ ]. Uh sports person, right? Like a jock. Now like a jock. Now the most popular. person, the one with the most likes, most followers. That's how they gain you. Does it matter what platform though? Cuz. what if it's some shitty ass platform. like [laughter] it's some news. Donald Trump.

truth social? Like I got a lot of. followers on Truth [laughter] Social. Damn. No, but that's I think that's the future. of social media and that's the future of. the generation is like it's always going. to be just clout now. It's always. graduated high school. Graduated. How you young buck? Well, I'm 23 right now. So, I graduated like 18. Yeah. Um, honestly though, I think what. what do you guys think the future for. social media is? Do you think it's going. to just get more like toxic? Do you. think it's going to get better? Like. what do you think about the climate. right now? I don't even know, dude.

You don't even know. Cuz the way that I see it is like. I [snorts] felt like um so I I changed a. bunch of different schools. Yeah. Like I. was just a bad kid, so I got expelled a. bunch of times. The sad part is I lost a bunch of. friends and I have to move from city to. city. Yeah. Yeah. But the cool part was I had a lot of. reset buttons, you know, like I could be like, "Okay, this is who I was. This is the new person I'm gonna try to. be." And I can and I let's say that. didn't work. I can go back. I can go and. be someone else, you know,

and but most people they stay in the. same city, same school, same friends all. the time. So, they're trying to work in. this ecosystem of trying to develop who. they are. And I think that's hard enough. already. But now, if you have the layer of social. media. of like whether it's in a good way, like. let's say you you got into makeup early. and you have this huge TikTok or you. could be the butt of the joke that goes. viral, too. And you're that kid forever. Yeah. Forever. Not only at your school. but all the schools is like. it's like a lot of pressure. You know like the backpack kid.

Oh like yeah like everybody knows him as. backpack kid but like and what like we. don't even know his name. It's not backpack kid. No like [laughter] his actual name. Everyone knows the first name backpack. Like when you guys were in high school. was there like social like did you guys. like. it was like that. It was like yo if you. had certain amount of followers like. you're popular in high school. Does it matter which one? Like is it. Twitter or YouTube or Instagram? Instagram. It was Instagram. Instagram's. still the one too, I would say. And back.

then like we weren't necessarily cool. cuz we went to prominently like white. school. Yeah. Different different kind of. coolness. Yeah. You had to be Chad and the Brad. Yeah. Yeah. Like hockey boys. The hockey. boys will get the most. Oh, can I That's so Canadian of y'all. Yeah. M. So we like we kind of had to make our. own group of friends and like our own. culture and then like we had to show how. cool we are on our side, you know. Yeah. Taup I think has 200,000 followers. but I don't think I don't think his. friends give a [ __ ] [laughter].

though. Yeah. But you think that's going to affect him. when he's older? For sure. You're going to you're going to give him. that account cuz you basically. it's like a Yeah. Yeah. And then he could take over that. account. He could start with a [ __ ] jump. start. Yeah, that's like Oh, that's that's so funny, dog. Like a savings account of. followers. [laughter]. No more money, just followers. That's crazy. But it's all the pictures I chose. Yeah. So, no. No. He He might be embarrassed. You got my bad angle, Dad. Why you taking [laughter] those. pictures? I'M LIKE, THOSE ARE THE ONES I.

LIKE. YO, but coming up like as like young. younger creators, did you guys start to. get like an ego or start to see yourself. in a different light? I think [snorts] everyone does. Everyone does. everyone, especially. young. I mean, when you're young, man, like. you think you know everything, bro, because like it's it's a way to just. kind of test your hypothesis, like being. like when you're when you're 20, you might have a high belief in. yourself, and the world just doesn't. know it yet. Right? So, you're really.

like, I believe I can do this, but I. haven't done it yet. So, let me go out. there and prove myself. And while you're. proving yourself, you're going to make a. lot of mistakes. You might say the wrong. things. You might hurt, you know, people. that you care about, whatever. But. that's how you become a man in my. opinion. You test all of those thoughts. and then you see if you stepped out of. the line or you did it and I don't know. that many people that are humble when. they're 20. Exactly. And then if they are, they're like fake. humble and it's like what that that kind. of happens with you making mistakes. But. I think like the way you execute it is.

different, right? Like Tim's always been. a positive kind person and he's always. been like a good dude where I haven't. seen him with this big ego. But if he. does have an ego, it's because he's so. positive, he thinks he can do. everything. That's good, right? I like to keep a just a the line of. delusion and reality. I like to keep it. right there teetering. You feel me? I. think you need a little bit of delusion. to really keep going in this [ __ ] cuz. the whole world is going to tell you you. ain't [ __ ] and you're wasting your time. You got to be like, "Nah, y'all are. dumb. We going to make this [ __ ].

happen.". That's a good amount of evil. And here's why I feel like [snorts]. where we were able like us specifically. were able to survive so long in this. space, right? because I feel like even. without the internet [ __ ] and without. the clout and the likes, we all we've. all kind of been like pretty confident. people in our lives. Okay. Um I don't. know you guys' like young history, but I. think you know we we're never really. like nerdy pushover. people, right? I think a some guys uh. that [ __ ] up in the like the social.

media atmosphere are dudes that were. lame or like felt picked on, insecure, and then they get some likes and some. clout and now they're like, [clears throat] "Oh, I'm the [ __ ] now. because I have this." So, it's like a a. false sense of confidence. It's like a different identity. No, and now they get [ __ ] they got. some money. They're buying clothes that. they think is dope. and they like they. think girls should be on their dick when. they're still lame. [laughter] So now. they got money, they got followers, but. they're still [ __ ] lonely and sad. And then they get depressed cuz they're.

like, "I'm still not happy.". That's that wisdom though. That's so. true. Yeah. And I think uh for us 32, we kind. of just kept it real like to who we. were. Whereas I think a lot of people, they. see someone else's success, so they try. to like mimic that or mirror that, but. that might not be them. M. So, I do see a lot of people too where. if you follow something and you're. writing and it's going good, you're. happy because you're reaping the. benefits, but then if that thing doesn't. fit the algorithm anymore now, you're. like, I'm making content that's not me.

and it's also sucking. Versus with us, I think like whether or. not we have the views of like, you know, 2015 or the views we have now, we're. happy making the content that whole. time. Yeah. So, that's why you don't guys like get. creator burnout or or have you. or not as much as some of our peers, I. would say. [clears throat] Yeah. Yeah, I. I mean this space attracts a lot of. interesting people, right? Entertainment. like you got to be a little bit crazy to. like entertainment because. you know we all think. we can entertain that. That in itself is.

already kind of egotistical. We're like. we're more interesting. That's why we. should like bring this. That's why you have to [laughter] have. it, right? But I do think the reasons why people. get into this space is different, right? Some people get in because they're. lonely or they want to be famous or they. want whatever. I always like the people. that go into a space because they have a. purpose or a skill. Like we got into the space because I saw. a need in the Asian community. It was. like, yo man, we're our comedy isn't. being represented. And I just want to. have a good time. And also I had another.

mission during that time because Asian. kids had this weird [snorts]. self-belief of like we can't do. entertainment, we can't get fit, we. can't there was so much negativity. We can't get fit, [laughter]. bro. We would go to the gym, right? And. and it would be like hella buff assians. cuz where we lived. But then you would talk to everybody in. high school during that time and they. had this weird idea that Asian men. couldn't get fit. They just had a. stereotype. No, it was like a. selfdefeating belief. Now that doesn't.

exist. But there were these weird racist. selfhatred beliefs that I was like, where does this [ __ ] come from? They're. like, yeah, I'm not good at, you know, um talented stuff cuz I'm Asian. And I'm. like, what are you talking about? And I. don't know, cuz I grew up in a um. creative family. My parents are. musicians. That was a normal job to me. Like. teaching music, whatever. That's normal. And then I started hearing these. stereotypes like, "Oh, you know how. Asians are all lawyers, doctors, and. engineers?" And I'm like, where? Not my. friends and family. Oh, yeah. Or you know, oh, I'm awkward. around girls cuz yeah, I'm Asian.

I'm come on, bro. And I just started hearing this [ __ ] and. I'm all like, where does this come from? And that's when we were like, we just. need to make comedy and stuff about and. tell stories about the people that we. know cuz like we got to change the. perspective and thoughts. I mean, that's why like representation. is so important, right? I mean, like I. know I feel like a lot of people say. that now, but. like you said, one of the main reasons I. got into this [ __ ] too. was, you know, I love the Fresh Prince. growing up and I've told the story a. million times, but like I was watching. the Fresh Prince and the first time I.

ever saw Asian dude on there was this. episode where Carlton's tuxedo shrank. and he had to wear like a little like. lame baby blue tux and he was at the. dance and um a group of nerds walked up. and the Asian dude, first Asian dude I. ever saw in the Fresh Prince, nerdy. Asian dude was like, "Hey Carlton, nice. tux." And [laughter] I remember thinking. like this is the first time I've ever. seen an Asian dude on the Fresh Prince. or on TV. And I'm like, I grew up around. all types of Asian dudes. I know we're. not all like this, but for people that. don't grow up around Asian dudes, this. is the first time they've ever seen a. young Asian guys. That's all they're.

fed. That's all they're going to think. of when they think of Asian dudes. I'm. like, "Okay, that's not me. We need to get out there and like show. that there's more to us than that." You. know what I'm saying? So that's something that still drives. you to this day then? Yeah, for sure. To make content. Yeah, 100%. cuz I feel like even though. a lot's changed over the years, you. know, um. we've been winning Oscars and [ __ ]. We've been winning Oscars and [ __ ] but. I feel like we just started winning. Oscars and [ __ ]. Just started. Yeah, that's right. Um you know, there's still like a lot. and and we've been getting cast as like. just sexy Asian dudes, which is nice.

Like just sexy dudes in different shows. I'm like, "Oh, that's lit. Yeah, objectify that, man. That's tight.". Um I think, you know, there's still a. lot to be done. I think one thing that. kind of bugs me is that I love that's. why I love Everything Everywhere All at. once cuz it was like goofier almost. Um but still dope. I think a lot of the. Asian movies that have been winning. awards and stuff, they're so serious and. so sad. I'm like, yo, Asian people are dark, bro. I'm like, do we have to be sad. [laughter] all the time? Like Parasite dramatic. Yeah, Parasite is sick though. Yeah.

You know who's killing it, though? Korean cinema. Korean is crazy. It's a golden era, bro. Cuz they have. like comedy. They have so much they they. just have good content. I I think there is um the Asian-American. experience. I feel like. there is a a chip on their shoulder. There's a bit of like. darkness. And I know what you're talking. about. It's so serious. Like why is it. so dramatic? Maybe they got to go. through that. Um. but I don't know. I I love comedy and. that's always my mind and how I operate.

But I think um my original passion was. that about the community and things like. that. And then as I started to have. non-Asian fans, like it used to be like. 90% Asian fans. Now it's like 50 a word. Yeah. Like like we have because also we. have a multicultural like group, you. know. That's very true. Right. And we're all like with. non-Asians and like it's just, you know, everything's just mixed. And I was like, you know, at one point I thought it was. about representation, but then it got to. this place where it felt like limitation.

like like we're I'm not including. everybody. Limitation. Limitation. Right. [laughter]. And it and it felt like, yo, I have I. have this white fan and I and and or. like I have this Mexican fan or like do. they feel left out cuz I'm just doing. only Asian stuff for Asian people. And I. was like, well, I'm American and also. like. I have all these different cultures. around me that I want to represent for. them, too, but maybe it's not about culture. Maybe. it's just about the human experience. And that's kind of where I got to. It's. like how do you boil it down to like now.

in the beginning it was about trying to. shape and influence and kind of motivate. the young. um self-defeating Asian minds. Now the next level is like okay I see. um young males not really getting. attention. Everything is about. young female and the LGBTQ, right? And. then almost like it's a stain to be a. male. Like they don't like masculinity. They don't like like just traditional.

stuff which I I argue might be kind of. good for men but there's like all this. stuff going on right now and I'm all. like what about that? Like regardless of. culture. Yeah. regardless of culture just in. general. Yeah. What are the things that. kind of where people need help and then. just kind of focus there and use comedy. as a way to like. change people's perspectives. What are y'all trying to do? Like is. this like is this like you love. podcasting and it's your main [ __ ] or. like. Yeah, honestly just I love storytelling. Mhm. I love storytelling, just thinking. differently. My biggest like message.

with Jumpers Jump is just to make people. think differently and don't be so shy. about like having your thoughts out. I. mean, a lot of people like, "Oh [ __ ]. that that's cringe, bro. You shouldn't. be posting. [ __ ] that. Why can't I just. speak my mind? Can't be myself.". I hate that com when it like cringe. I'm. like, "Where where you who's cringing at. this? What are you talking about?". But it's not cringe until you blow up. and you're famous now. And it what. teases me the most, bro, is uh we get. comments sometimes, especially in. Toronto, whenever Toronto like um. I guess IG accounts post us. The comments are like, "Why are these.

guys so excited? What the fuck?" [laughter]. I I didn't be excited. Yeah, they're hating. They're hating on being. excited, being happy. Interesting. That's one thing I wanted to ask y'all. So, Gen Z, right? Most of my employees Gen Z, like we've. been hiring a lot cuz I have a I have a. a a matcha tea shop in Hawaii. And. [snorts] what I noticed is that like Gen. Z. expressionless stereotyp so like not you. guys but like. oh.

very little like it's like they're very. chill is the best way I can explain. like it's not cool to be happy and. excited. I [laughter] know man that's it right. there. It's just like. they don't the social skills is. different like they don't high five and. [ __ ] [laughter]. I don't know bro. Now, not everyone, but. what I've been noticing is like like in. interviews and stuff like that, they're. very quiet. They're like uh one-worded. answers. No, like. like they're like toned down or. something. Bro, and then some guys would take like.

3 minutes to answer a question and just. say like one word. And I'm like I've. never I mean I get some people could be. shy, but I don't know. Is it a thing? I don't know if that's a generational. thing. And I feel like I I know, you. know, just coming up seeing people in. interviews that were just trying to be. cool, so they're just they're not. excited. You know what I'm saying? I hate when that happens, too. Yeah. I I think. they're not acting cool. They're just um. they're they're taking it serious, but they're so scared. It's super. mellow. Like, maybe it's the drugs. [laughter].

Maybe it's all the good kids, bro. I don't know what it is, man. Do you think technology is [ __ ] us. up? It could be. Is it [ __ ] y. I do think I mean I think it's [ __ ]. up a lot of things because you got like. like people aren't hanging out as much. you know like social media like people. are like connect I mean it's the the. stereotypical two people sitting next to. each other. and then uh maybe people that are. consumed by porn and they don't have a. healthy sex life.

Oh but it's so tasty though. [laughter]. Tasty. Yeah. I just think like there's like we. have a lot of stuff in this generation. at our fingertips. It's up to us to like. maintain that balance. But I've seen people like look at like. pictures of the of nature and that's. enough. [laughter]. You need to go outside and get some sun. or something. But it's cold. It's cold out there, boy. Yeah. Yeah. [laughter]. I think in this generation [snorts]. it's weird to go out your way and try. stuff. And it's kind of weird to support.

that, too. If you support someone, someone's gonna say, "Oh, you're a dick. ride. You're a dick ride. You're a dick. So. stupid. Get off his dick." Silly people like, "Oh, you're dick riding. You're dick. riding.". So we're not we're not supposed to. support our friends no more. So you can't have fans. Yeah. You can't like apparently you. can't have fans. You can't support people you're dick. rider. You can't be too happy. You're. corny. Yeah. [laughter] Exactly. You can't be too excited. What the [ __ ]. You just can't be yourself no more. Wow. And then that's the culture like we're. trying to defeat, right? Cuz we're the. opposite of that and we're just trying. to show that side. I guess that's what. I'm trying to point out is like there.

are a lot of people that try to be too. chill, like [clears throat] too. unmotivated, too lazy, but that's not. the word. Like it's. I feel it's boring. Like you want to. live your life like that. But is Jenz like that? It's like super. It's like a chill generation. If you do too much, you're doing too. much. Like if you're just supposed to be. like, "Oh, whatever.". Well, obviously people [ __ ] with you. guys and your energy. You know, your. shit's going well. Well, that's that's that's the main. thing is like if we're going to come. here and talk to you guys, we're not. going to be sitting down like this. You guys are idols. We're going to be. [ __ ] bring the energy. I think that's what it is. It's their.

talk. It's how they speak. It's. monotone. It's chill. It's low energy. And I'm just like, what the [ __ ] is. happening here? [laughter]. Yeah. Wow. You old. Do you also think um. I'm too excited. That's how every generation views the. other gener. You know, Kevin Hart had. that one uh like bit where he was. talking about was it his uncle where he. was like, "Say it from a chest.". Oh yeah. Is it is it like. probably. like every every generation like you get. the confidence and so now you're like. more expressive. You're bold like you're. it's okay to just put something out.

there and if it's wrong I'm sorry. You. know, I think that's different though. That. was about that was about just the him. not saying it like strong enough, him. just being weak. Like this is about. people being too cool. You know what I'm. saying? So I think it's like a little. different. So you're wrong. Even like. celebrities, I want to say [laughter]. too, cuz y'all are cool like meeting. you, but I can [snorts] I can tell. there's some influencers that they'll. treat you like, "Oh, oh, he's he's a. fan.". Like, you can't be a fan. Like, what the. [ __ ]. It's a lot of people that think all day. I don't care. Yeah, that's [laughter] good. That's weird. Well, you know what? I try to like.

I I'll only fanboy sometimes. I don't I. think being in LA you kind of do. sometimes have this attitude or or you. feel like I don't want to look like a. groupy in front of the group when I'm. when we're like at an event or you're at. a party like you don't want to be that. one guy that's there and it's like yo. can I take a selfie when everyone but. we're supposed to be turn like ah no no. no yeah no I'm just there with Kevin. Hart whatever [laughter] I'm not asking. no. selfie I get that's true it does make it. awkward cuz you don't want to be that.

guy. that's true you I think that's just LA. It might just be LA co cuz we just came. here and then like it kind of gives off. that vibe a little bit. It could be just the whole Hollywood. entertainment culture where you don't. want to be too cool. cuz you do know that like clout does. help but you don't want it to make it. seem like you're there for the clout. It's just like this fine balance. Yeah. You don't want to be the guy where. it's like Steven Spielberg's like, "Hey, I have a I have a spot and oh yeah, you. do you do, [laughter] oh yeah, I'm I'm.

going to check my schedule." PEOPLE. INSIDE. THEY'RE LIKE, "Fuck yeah." You. know, it's like it's weird. Cuz we were we were at Wrestlemania and. uh we had seats over to the right. And. then I looked to my left. I was like, "Yo, Carlos, is this that Gina?". Like Gina Darling was like with the. thing. I was like, "I don't know if I. want to like this is kind of she's with. her man, you know? I don't want to go up. to her and be like that fanboy." But. Oh, no. She would have loved it. Yeah. [laughter]. She was out there taking pictures like. posing in front of us. So, if you were like our age coming up. in the industry right now. Oh, right.

now. 23. Bro, what's some advice or what would y'all. do? Well, let's see. I'm 25 now. So, [laughter]. just two years back. Yeah, a couple years ago. Well, for me, I I'm 17. I blew money. [laughter]. I blew money like a rock star. Did you And you regret it? [ __ ]. Did you need that though? Cuz I I feel like I feel like that's. something maybe people need. Like for. me, I knew in high school I had to spend. my whole paycheck to realize, oh, the. value of money.

I still don't know, bro. [laughter]. Really? I'm just I I don't know. It's just a fun. part of who I am. But I [clears throat] would say um right. now there's so much information. financially and like what you guys are. doing is a business. As much as you hate. being an entrepreneur, you are one, right? True. And we had to kind of we had books. We. had we had very little mentors. So we. made a lot of mistakes. So, I would say. like um structure yourself out and. understand like you can you can kind of. like have a savings ready, have things.

like Yeah. or else you're going to have. to constantly work and you're never. going to be able to retire. Dude, that's so true. Cuz I remember. like uh watching like those sports. documentaries. Yeah. And I would watch like these NFL. football players like they have millions. and then they're like homeless or they. blew it. I'm like, "Man, you guys. stupid.". [laughter]. And then when we start getting into. money. and uh when you're in it, you think the. wave goes like this nonstop. And then. the moment. it goes like this, right? Comes down. Mhm. But then your expenses are still high.

I'm like, if you do, and we're Asian, so. we do the math fast. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I can totally see what. happens." You know, cuz you make you. keep spending. So like every time we. would go out, we would just everyone. order everything. It's totally fine. And. it's easy for like a bill to come out to. like 300, 500, maybe even $1,000. sometimes. And then you have like three. cars or whatever. And you pay for this, you pay for that. Oh yeah, I'll cover my. I'll cover my uncle's cell phone bill, my mom's cell, everyone's cell phone. bill. And then now your expenses are.

like crazy, right? And then you start to. not make as much money and it starts. coming down and you still have all those. things and it's hard to tell your. relatives, hey, I'm not going to do this. for you anymore. I'm not going to do. this anymore. So, like I think uh. yeah, like what he was saying, being. able to put a little bit of money away. for the future as if you're not going to. make it. That's like probably one of the. first things I would have started doing. Yeah, man. I think to piggyback off. that, um, as far as the money goes, right? It's like you really do need to. keep a balance. You know what I'm. saying? Cuz of course, you making some.

money, you want to spend a little bit, and you should spend a little bit for. your taxes and [ __ ] right? Yeah. Um, I think the issue that a lot of. people have. like the like what we talked about. earlier, the person that used to be lame. and now they got a little clout and. money so they want to like stunt on. everybody. is like a I know a lot of like these. younger YouTube vloggers back in the day. or even like recent, you know, they'll. spend mad money to have like so they can. vlog from a house in the hills and. they're leasing mad cars so they can be. like, "Oh, check out my new spot vlog. title." You know what I'm saying?

Clickbait. Oh, I got a new I [ __ ] it. I'm pushing the this and this and that. Right. And then it's like and there are. two like people blowing mad money like. 5 to 10k for an apartment out here and. it just it like it doesn't make sense, right? Um but. I think the key is to I mean for for me. I was always a little paranoid about it. So I was always saving some money. Oh that's. but I think we all have that stage and. you know I think it's fun too where you. want to stunt a little bit. You want to. flex on people like we all we were all.

we all had some like luxury car driving. the [laughter] Fords at one point right. and and at one point it's like. for what [laughter] the [ __ ] cares you. know what I'm saying. and you know you have your fun and I was. I I was doing my thing I was like okay. I'm a stunt I feel nice to pull up into. in front of a restaurant in the [ __ ]. Maserati or whatever but then it's like. eh. who cares you know who am I trying to. show off for you know. so materialistic side that doesn't even. matter to you anymore or does it because. for me I know Like I was a huge sneaker. head back in the day.

Yeah. And like I really really wanted like a a. set lineup of kicks. Once I completed that lineup, yo, I felt [ __ ] depressed. [laughter]. Really? You had nothing to look forward to. Nothing to look forward to. It's like, you know, you know, you have a video. game, you get excited to play, you. finish it, and like [ __ ] what's next? That's what I felt like. I feel like guys are just big kids, you. know? Like we just our. toy trucks become real trucks. You know. what I mean? like our water guns become. real guns or like we just keep we just. keep upgrading, right? I'm not like materialistic in the sense.

of like luxury brands and flossing and. stuff, but I have my toys, right? We all. have our toys, but I I think um for me, I think I wish. I had mentors in the business sense. cuz I blew a lot on stupid decisions in. business because I was just. I'm I was ignorant, right? But right. now, you guys have a lot of people that. are ahead of you when it comes to. podcasting, entertainment, how they. structured their media companies. It's. even out like in the open. You can read.

about them or whatever. And I think that. would have helped us a lot big time. Yeah. Yeah. What about contentwise? You got any like. advice for us contentwise? You guys are crushing it better than us. Well, you should GIVE US YOU GUYS SHOULD. GIVE US THAT. What can we BE DOING BETTER? I saw you guys do the the You're on. TikTok now with the JK JK news. Yeah, you guys. You don't even post it. [laughter] Who does someone's doing it? I mean, I I would I feel like this we. and we touched on this earlier. I think. um. you know, like like we've been saying, the key is balance, right? Like, yeah, it's important to pay attention to, you.

know, what people are talking about, what's trending, like what's popular. But if you spend too much time focusing. on like what people want and not what. makes you happy and you're always. chasing that, you're going to you might. get the views, but it's you're not going. to feel fulfilled. You know what I'm. saying? You're going to be sad. I never went there to the deep end. But. I feel like we started at a certain. point and at some point I wasn't doing. any content that I wanted, but it was. bringing in the views and the money. and then I was doing that for like a.

year and I was like, wait, why do we have all these channels? I'm [laughter] like, it was fun, but is it fun after 2, three, four, five. years of doing the same game? And I'm like, I know the viewers like. it, but then I was like, I got to do. something different, man. Yeah. When you guys were coming up, would you. guys change anything? because I know you. guys were working on a movie. What did. you guys go through with that or No, that's one thing I guess uh looking back. now that I would change is we pro like. doing a movie was for sure one of like a. big goal for JK.

And I would say like. when you're first start doing something, you feel like you have to put out the. perfect products. And so [clears throat] we were working. so hard on this movie. We probably. rewrote it like four or five times. We. wrote like six, seven different scripts. and by the time we go back, that. opportunity. is only going to be there for this this. much. So, one of the producers that. first hit us up, we had a rewrite. We. finally went back like that funding. disappeared. So, there's no longer for. that that movie is gone. You know, you. can't do that movie. So, what I realized.

is in the beginning, I used to be like. [ __ ] on people's like bad movies. [laughter] so shitty. Why they release. that? Why they release that? [clears throat] Or you see people's uh. like earlier stuff and it's like kind of. shitty. Now I understand like when this. studio has this much money, it's for. this window. So if you're not happy with the movie, fine. Put it out. At least you got it out. You got it out. At least you grow a. little bit and now you have a working. relationship with the studio. They'll. grant the next couple more and you'll. get better as cuz I think everyone wants. to win an Oscar on the first one.

[laughter] You're. right. And that's what and that's what. happened with us where we had so many. rewrites on just one movie and we're. trying to make it perfect and then that. opportunity is gone and we would do a. bunch more like that. I would I would have to add going back. to that [laughter]. that ego conversation. that's probably the ego that [ __ ] us. up. where we wanted to crush it so hard. that it prevented us from getting. anything done cuz we're trying to make. the perfect movie. Right. So, like I. said earlier, we made six full scripts.

We even um well, we shot a pilot. actually uh cuz we were like, you know. what? Maybe TV series is the way to get. picked up. And then we did a a whole. series called Danger Boys. Co whipped our ass on that one, right? And right when we got it going, we were having um studios like basically. they're ready to buy it. We're touring. with it and then boom, COVID stopped. Everything stopped. Everything was just. like done. And then the time passes like. every single time if you don't just jump. on the opportunity.

Yeah. Sometimes it's okay when you got B work, man. C work even. Just get it done. And I Right. [laughter]. You already done so much and you're on. TV and stuff like that. But I've been trying to write a movie. for like four years. Yeah. Cuz the way the way the producers. like like table works is we had Danger. Boys and uh we immediately we put out. the pilot. Yeah. I think we got like booked for. like 14 schools that wanted to screen. it. One of our first ones uh that we went to. was Did you go to the UCI one? No, I couldn't make it.

But 500 people showed up. It was like. bursting at the scenes like just to. watch it, right? And so we're like have crazy momentum. Co hits and then uh all the schools of. course can because you're going to be. meeting people, but then also the networks, they don't. know what's going to happen. So they. have to com use the money to finish. filming the stuff they have in the. works. and all the new green they put to. the side. and then so you would think okay no. worries 2 years later I'm going to hit. up the same producer and we'll just get. the back but that time Danger Boys is.

like 20 stacks down cuz scripts keep. coming out so that's the nature of the. beast where I think a lot of times. you're trying to make like the most. perfect thing because you want to do. like a like a mic drop project right. like JK. [laughter]. but there's a thousand mics coming down. you know so you just got to get one in. And then. right. and then Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. See, I have a dilemma and I think Tim. could relate to this too cuz he does so. much. You like act too, you were on Wild. and Out trying. Yeah. Yeah. And for me, like I I started with.

street wear first and then obviously the. podcast. And at one point I was juggling. it. and I'm like [ __ ] I want to do vlogs. too. Yeah. [ __ ] I want to do like I made my own. board game. and then like [ __ ] I started acting. class. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm doing so much at once, but. coming from you guys, like what's some. advice for me? Cuz I I feel like. sometimes I spread myself thin and. that's what a lot of people say. I don't know, man. I feel like if you. can if you can find the right balance, then do all that [ __ ] dog. This is a. good time to do it. You know what I'm. saying? Like especially if you're.

popping on like some Tik Tok [ __ ]. right? I think it's the perfect example. of how you don't need. to be have a consistent formula anymore. really cuz Tik Tok is so like all over. the place. Um, you know, I think a lot. of us in the beginning with YouTube, right? Um, people would have told you or. for me especially, like I struggled. with, do I keep doing all this random. [ __ ] I'm doing or do I stick to one. thing, right? Um, for me, like. I was doing the rap [ __ ] I was doing. the skits, I was doing ghettos and I.

almost felt like it was so inconsistent. that it was keeping me from really. growing in subscriptions. And someone. told me one time, they're like, "You. know what? Look, for YouTube, here's the. thing, right? You got to treat it like. it's a your kitchen cabinet. Like when. you go to your kitchen cabinet every day. to get cereal, you don't go there. because you think, "Oh, I might have. meatloaf in there one day or I might. have cereal in there one day." You keep. on going back because you know there's. cereal in there. And I'm like, "Ah, [ __ ] Maybe I should stick to one. thing." But honestly, for me, I think um.

the fact that I I didn't just do one. thing on on my personal channel, I was. still able to really like navigate the. changing tides of YouTube cuz at the end. of the day, people were still kind of. they were subscribed for me even if it. was like my skits or a Dar ghetto. They. were it was my personality, right? Um I. think for y'all, man, uh if you got a bunch of [ __ ] you want. to do, do it. You know, do you have ADD? I don't know. because if you got ADD, I would say do. everything because I think the I think.

success actually comes from when you're. aligned with who you naturally are. You know what I mean? So I think if you. are a I could do one thing [ __ ]. like a [ __ ] sushi chef, then do that, right? You're [ __ ]. looking at the fish and [ __ ] Like if. that's who you are, but I got ADD like. crazy and. it actually helps me write an email if. I'm looking at car parts at the same, [laughter]. you know what I like I got like three. tabs open that actually helps me. So, um. I would say like that's longterm.

aligning yourself with who you are like. what your strengths are and if that is. like your acting class might make you a. better podcaster or your street wear. might inspire you to do a vlog about. something. and sometimes it is that whole ecosystem. you know. Yeah. I mean like even when we were at. the at the height of YouTube, we had. like four channels. We had the sketch, we had the you uh party, we for the game. show behind the scenes, we had um news. and then we had the fields. Yeah. So.

that's the thing, right, is you can do. it with a team. Anything you want. Even. right now, right? Like I'm running a. boba shop and um he's running a gym and. on top of that, you know, we have. personal channels. We're like able to. sit down with you guys. We have JK News. uh he has a clothing brand you know so. like. and I dude I so whatever you get excited. about you can do it if you could create. the system around it so it's really. about like. finding all the things that take up your.

time that you can outsource or hire out. start doing that. and then what if like so if in a perfect. world you probably just want to come in. here and do what you're doing is just. talks right and then what are you going. to like how long does this take like an. hour or two right and Then how many more. hours do you got in your month? A ton. So you could do a bunch of other stuff. If you want to vlog, but you don't want. to edit, you don't want to do all that. Hire someone to record you. Or maybe you. could just go around and then you dump. the footage to your editor and they'll. do all the stuff for you. Hire a manager.

You got a film edit. I edit my own. vlogs. See, there's a thing for me, too, cuz I. I love being in charge of everything. I. love being like I'm the creative. Everything has to be my way. If somebody. else does it another way, like I'm going. to get pissed off cuz like [ __ ] It's. not in my leg. 100%. But then you you learn how to. train. So then you do it, you create the. system, you figure out what the formula. is to your system, and then you get. somebody that can edit close to what you. want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But man, sometimes I also feel.

like maybe I am doing too much. [laughter]. That's the artist struggle though. I. think the artist struggle. is always like, "Oh, that's cool. Oh, I. got 30 TV shows out, but I don't have. one Oscar. You know what I mean? That's forever. It's going to always be like that. You got the Daniel D. Lewis who's like, I'm only [laughter] an actor and it's. just I have an Oscar, right? Or you got. the other dude that got 30 TV shows. and I think that's just always forever. the struggle, bro. You know, you know what I do now? Cuz I'm notorious for like starting new.

projects and just shiny new objects. Yeah. I have a end goal for every single thing. I'm in. And I said, I can't start a new. hobby or a project or business unless I. get it to this point. That's what I mean. Yeah. So, that's what I didn't do in the. past. So, I like I'll I'll I could beat. one project up for like 10 years and. then like never stop it. Yeah. And then I'll start up 20 other projects. and be sucky at all of them. Right. So. then now I'm just like, "All right, I. need to get this to this amount, this.

price point, whatever." And then once I. get it there, then I'm allowed to. whatever. That is something that like venture. capitalists and like Silicon Valley, they built it into the startup system. So people that that like let's develop. an app. They build the exit. into the business plan. So this is what. we're trying to do. This we're going to. try to take it and in three years we'll. revisit five years we'll revisit and. these are the tiers that unlock. whatever. And they already plan all of. that out. So it's almost like planning. like a um. like a prenup [clears throat].

cuz who knows if this app is going to go. forever. Is it going to be like Amazon. where it goes for a long long long time. or is it something we just hit it and. quit it and we all make a billion. dollars and we're out? Yeah, that's that's actually really. really smart. I was really trying to finish an album. before this other baby came. You [ __ ] up though. And then the baby priorities all mixed. up, bro. [laughter]. Or now you got baby sounds that you can. put in the album. The adlas, bro. True. Timberland use baby sounds. Yeah. [laughter]. Yeah. I uh you know,

you know, you know, no, you guys are. right. I do need end goals cuz I've been. trying to write this movie and do this. album for like so long, but I'm always. like, just pick one or do a musical and do. both. [laughter]. That's true. You could get two done at. once. Yeah, but now babies here. I don't have. time for anything. No, but you you guys helped us. indirectly too when we were going to buy. a new studio. So, money started coming. in, you know, like Tim said. Tim said, "Oh, we want to flex. We want to get. this new studio, but I remember you guys.

saying uh I think when you guys tried to. move your set to a bigger studio, that. was a mistake, right? We wanted to be like, "Oh, we're going. to do so good." See, that's another ego. move is like, you think the audience is. going to be impressed by this cool set. They don't care. It's just the content that you produce. And we were we're filming out of his. basement, just two of us cameras. We're. like, "MY BEDROOM DEAD ASS YOU LIT." Keep it. there, dude. They just want to see your. pretty ass little faces. [laughter]. One of the biggest channels right now,

uh, at least in the fitness space. Do. you guys know [clears throat] more. place, More Dates? Uh, no. So, he's the one that calls out, uh, if. people are taking steroids or not. He's. like very, very smart. Oh, that guy. He's just a webcam. Exactly. Shitty ass webcam. I don't even. know what the [ __ ] behind him, like a. vintage microwave or something. And And. he has like multiple businesses. He has. a supplement line. He has a hormone therapy clinic. Like, he's crushing it, right? And uh he was. on Joe Rogan and they asked him like, "Yo, so what's up with your setup?" Like. why you still like have this ghetto ass.

setup and is it because to keep. relatability? He goes, "Exactly.". So he doesn't he wears his old like. stretched out shirt look like he'd been. sweating the last like 15 seconds. [laughter]. But it keep it keeps why people loved. him. And then also it doesn't hurt the. the piggy bank, you know? He just keeps. the exact the way it is. Yeah. Versus us, we dropped like [ __ ]. almost like half a mill on that studio. and you didn't even use it. I know. [laughter]. Was that going to be? No. No. So we So we had this studio.

There was a business model behind it. So the the whole So we have a set side. and an office side. The set side was was. probably like 10,000 square ft. It was. pretty big. Half of it was for JK party, which we did shoot. And it was dope. Yeah. Was it was dope because it's. actually big enough to like. like run across so you can do some crazy. [ __ ] Um the JK new side I think it was. too newsy like it felt it didn't feel. like it didn't feel like this you know. and then so [laughter] that one it was. like people what the [ __ ] is this. so so we had to go back to our old set.

but originally we were popping out. channels left and right we wanted to a. lot of the um channels back then too. they were building out their own. networks like Smos was doing all that so. we wanted to create like our own network. um and then have studios like you know. here Spotify, like you just had a lot of. different places to film and record. And then uh we wanted to build the. company bigger until we realized, dude, like. we're so spread thin. Do we want to. continue doing this?

So I think that was that was where like. you got to push yourself to see what. your max capacity is. Okay. Yeah. You know what I think will kill for. y'all though? Um just just kidding cuz. look, I remember you guys were doing. that. That [ __ ] went viral, right? Check this out. People are doing that. with like, you know, Cut or like. Jubilee. True, true, true. Oh, really? It's technically the same thing. And the. reason it's going viral right now and. still blowing up and it's still such a. big like genre of content is because. people react to it on Twitch. So, it's.

like the other side reacting with the. other side and then no matter what, it's. still going to get fed views. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz people are still watching your. videos to this day. Like. Yeah. They're watching your old videos, bro. Yeah. Yeah. No, Just kidding. Party. I. think it still gets like what is it like. a million views or something a month. just by itself? People are watching it. Yeah. Why don't you guys revive that though? [laughter]. So, like I said, like we started. creating content cuz we just wanted to. see which one is going to hit. Yeah. So, like we got into this space to make. sketches, but sketches don't pay the.

bills. So, Just Kidding Party was the behind. the scenes and vlogs of the of the. making of the skit. And then we started doing challenges. like when the cinnamon challenge came. out, those did really well. And I was. like, you know, it would be funny if we. turned this into like a game show. channel instead of a behind thes scenes. channel. So, we started doing game shows. and like adventures. Um, and then films, we had to kill it. cuz we're like, you know what, at the. end of the day, like it costs so much. We've been producing a skit every Sunday. for like four or five years straight.

Every Sunday, no breaks. And um we built JK News as a way to. like, hey, we need to fund JK Films. And then Yeah. So, we created all these. different concepts just see what will. work. because we were trying to make sure. everyone got paid a decent rate. Like. we're just trying to see like. what's going to work. You just don't. know. Like you're just testing. everything and there's no model back. then. There's no like method. Like right. now there's like okay you got your. fitness industry method, you got your,

you know, vlogger or whatever, right? Back then you just trying everything. hoping that something's going to stick. it and you find which one. and all of them started profiting. So, it was like a cool thing where it was. like all of our ideas are working. and then it's like we're too busy now. working on stuff that we don't really. want to. It was like a B project. to only fund our passion. You know what I mean? And then it was. like, "Oh, shoot." But then the the. machine's going now and you can't stop.

and then the brand deals roll in and. then you just can't refuse the zeros. because you're like, "Oh, shoot.". Yeah. And then you then there also gets. to a point where. you spend more time as co-workers than. you do as friends. That's another thing. And then also even relationships like a. lot of our relation relations got hit so. hard cuz we would be filming from like. 9:00 a.m. till 9:00 p.m. like almost like every day. Mhm. So other parts start to suffer. But I'm. also glad we went through it because you. you got to kind of figure out where your. limits are and where to dial it back.

down to kind of know what's the healthy. balance, you know? Yeah. Cuz a lot of the time like I'm. hiring my homies or like I'm filming. with my homies and those are the the. main guests we have on the podcast. Actually, the all the influencers that we had on. our podcast do the worst. People hate it, right? And then um our. our just homies, they do numbers. It's. crazy. Yeah. Cuz people just like your guys'. chemistry. You know what I'm saying? Like and you think and that's a struggle. I have with with my podcast too is that. like I feel like ah I should get a guest. in there to kind of like switch it up. Maybe get some new eyes on there. But. people always like gh this person's.

whack. [laughter]. Can y'all just be you guys talking like. normal? You know, we'll bring in some people like big ass. following and does whatever. Exactly. They come in, they they sit like this. They're not entertaining at all, bro. Like, you know, cuz most people don't know how to talk. Like they have millions of followers or. whatever, but maybe they're just good at. that one style of what they do. That's not their thing. But this is actually just being a human. Facts. And if you're not entertaining telling. stories, then it's like, yeah, it's not. going to work. People don't know how to.

just talk without, you know, feeling u. mad awkward sometimes, you know, like I. think podcasting is people like people. will sit with their homies be like, "We. need a podcast." [laughter]. What we Oh, yo, we should have a. podcast. And then as soon as those mics. come on, like the shit's awkward, you. know? [laughter]. You know what? What we realize too is. like some people they're like really. popular. They're good at just talking by. themselves but not in the group. Oh, I can see that. They're not they're. not used to sharing. Like a vlogger or something. Yeah. And they feel self-conscious if.

they're not filling the space with their. words. Like they're like, "Oh, am I doing. enough?" And it's like, "Dude, this is a. group thing.". Like a a group chat is like, "This is. one voice." Like we're an organism. working together. And they're used to just like sometimes. standup comedians are like that, too. They feel hella self-conscious if they. don't have the attention. cuz they're used to being the only one. speaking on stage, not sharing it. Oh, cuz it's just a different setting in. general. Yeah, dude. and they just dominate. They won't. shut up. And we're just like, "Yo, is. this a conversation?" Like, "What?

Are you doing a bit? Chill out. Chill, bro. Let's talk." [laughter]. [snorts]. Well, okay. One last question I have cuz. I think I'm running out of time here, but one last question. What's y'all's. like end goal still? End goal in life. Yeah. Like what what what drives. [ __ ]. I always question that myself like with. the podcast. What do I really really. want to do with this? Like what am I. looking out of my career? And I'm I'm. just curious like like in the future if. we end up like y'all like what are you. guys looking forward to?

I mean I mean for me man like I still. kind of have the same goals as I did. when I started out. Like. at this point I I did some TV stuff, right? Um and I've done a couple like. whack ass movies, but I'm trying to like. [laughter] take everything that I've. done so far, elevate it. You know what. I'm saying? Like yeah, I've done I've. been on a cable show while I did that. for some years. I would love to be on a. ABC NBC. You don't have to have cable to. watch this [ __ ] show. You know what I'm. saying? Like a. a ABC NBC, like a some type of scripted. show, right? Yeah.

I also, you know, I'm trying to get this. [ __ ] movie done. I would love to, you. know, be in some like real ass movies. Like that's the goal for me. Um and I'm. still, you know, I'm still putting out. music. I feel like if if people [ __ ]. with the music, I'm still putting it. out. And uh and uh you know, just that. everything I'm doing now, but times 10, right? Times 10. So just getting better at it. Yeah. Just getting better at it. Okay. and. raise raise my children, right? I guess we don't talk about goals. Yeah. Yeah. Make my wife happy. [laughter].

Get a six-pack. I think for me, I realized um that I'm. uh like artist in a way where I do like. creating. and I realized uh for me I think I like. creating when I feel free. M. so like kind of like with what we're. talking about, we had all these channels. and when you look at it from the outside. and you're like, "Oh [ __ ] these guys. are creating like a motherfucker." Like. I think one time we I counted um like I. was coming I was in maybe like 200.

videos a month like from fitness to vlog. to all the JK. I was like, "Holy shit.". Yeah. A month. I was like, "God damn." I. [laughter] was just counting like how. many videos I'm I'm in, you know? And I'm like that's creating a lot. But. then I'm just plugged into a machine. Like each one of those channels are a. machine. We have to meet a quota or if. you don't the algorithm like [ __ ] you, you know? So like now I I realize I do. enjoy being an artist and creating. stuff. Um but I don't want to be tied. into a machine. So for me, I think I. want to create from like uh put myself.

in a position financially like we're. like kind of like ties everything full. circle where I can be in a place where I. can create like purely for what I want. to create. regardless of just making money, regardless of like people thinking about. your content, just doing what you want. Yeah. So now at my age in like like I've. been diving deep into like real estate. finance and like for like the last two. or three years. So, I'm trying to slowly. like leverage that so that I can be in a. financial place where I can still kind. of go back to my roots, but then now. without having like the bills to pay.

I was just going to say, isn't that. crazy that like we started off just. bullshitting, making [ __ ] that we love, and now it's like we're grinding so hard. to make money so that we can do that. again. [laughter]. That's crazy, dude. It come It comes full circle. [ __ ]. It's like you make [ __ ] that you love. when you're broke as [ __ ] [laughter]. Then you make money and you're not. really making [ __ ] that you love, but it. looks like you are. It's crazy. Yeah, cuz you they kind of stick you like your. audience sticks you to one thing and. then you have to keep running with that. to make your bread and [ __ ]. I guess it kills like the true artist in.

you, right? Yeah. We got mortgages and [ __ ] now. It's our fault. Yeah. But it also makes you a better artist, I. think, you know, and you kind of have to. go through it. Yeah. You kind of have to. go through it to go, oh [ __ ] like this is who I really am, you know? Yeah. I realized that I'm actually like. more of an entrepreneur. and um just opening up a store and just. doing more business. It's like hella. exciting. and um. I I it's kind of sadistic, but I like. the feeling of starting over. of like [laughter] broke and then from.

nothing. I I like I like fighting. Like. it's like to me it feels like. I'm panicking every day and I'm in like. war, but like now I got to battle. through through business. It gives a purpose. No, I feel that 100%. Cuz I always tell. people I worked hardest and was grinding. my hardest when I was like broke and. hungry. Exactly. You know, and then we. make a little bit of money, we get. comfortable and we don't feel the need. to work hard anymore and you almost. don't feel as fulfilled, right?

Cuz during co um I had the retired life. I was single. I did anything I wanted. to. I had single friends that were like, "Yo, let's go here for a trip." And I'm. I'm like, as much as my heart wanted to, let's just hop around the world and. snowboard, do whatever. And there was. something missing. There was something. that was like, "Oh, I thought this would. be what I wanted." Cuz when you're busy. working, you kind of like fantasize. about like what life would be like if I. had the freedom, right? Yeah. And then you get the freedom and you do. you eat what you want, you do what you.

want, you sleep when you want, no one to. answer. And then there's to me there was. just something that was like lingering. like that was making me kind of sad. It wasn't what you thought. Yeah. And then I lost a ton of money on. crypto. [laughter] Almost everything, bro. I got wiped out clean. Just enough to finish up the. construction on my shop. And then I went. in [snorts] and then something ignited. in me that felt like I haven't been this. hardworking and motivated and happy in a. long time. Wow. And I was one of it was the one of the. most stressful, but it it it made me.

like a like awaken like oh [ __ ] this is. who I am. I like to fight. I like to. work. I like to do a lot of stuff. Um, and I think that's just like my goal is. like I like to think about what I want. to accomplish and just execute it. while I have a fire under my butt. telling me, you know, yeah, I can't do. it while I'm comfortable. That's what I. realized. If everything's too easy for. me, then what ends up happening is um. there's nothing whipping me.

Like there's nothing telling me that you. need to do this. So, I rather just go play. They say uh comfort is the enemy of. progress. I believe it now. Yeah. Well, low-key comfort is like almost. depression. Like I remember I was. chilling just playing video games. Like. [ __ ] I'm I'm just super chilling, loser. Yeah. But but like I'm depressed. Like. I'm not doing nothing. I feel I feel. like [ __ ]. and like there's nothing to look for. I. think the the scariest moment in my. life, I feel like [ __ ] I kind of did what I. wanted to do now and I'm still in it, of. course, but.

what's my next purpose? Like the shoes. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Just like that. And that [ __ ] like it it scares me. Get. all the pairs except for the last one. [laughter]. Yeah, that's how I should do it. Oh yeah, it's it's like in GTA when you have all. the money and all the cheat codes. That's just not fun. Put codes in the game and like [ __ ] this. game sucks now. Then you play Tetris, dog. You switch up the game low key. [laughter]. Start buying sandals. Start a sandal. collection. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for. so much to have you guys on. Like y'all.

are for real my heroes. And we wouldn't. be here right now. We wouldn't be here without you. We have. to give y'all your flowers [applause]. for real. Thank you, man. You know, hey, I appreciate you guys for the flowers. and for, you know, taking the time to. show us love and like I I I I got. nothing but respect for y'all for doing. your thing and and as young as the next. generation. Thank you for the blessing, bro. Thank. you. Thank you. Um yeah, so if we're. ever back in LA, we'll hit you up, whatever. Okay, I'm down. Definitely. We're always open, bro. Thank you so. much. Thanks, guys. Jumper jump out.

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