The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 974 | I’m Switzerland

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Microphone check. What is this? JB back to business. I guess right now we should start the. show. >> Playful banter. >> Playful banner. >> Playful banter. >> Come on. I like to start with a playful. banner. >> It wasn't playful a few minutes ago. Look at Mark. Look at Mark. That's all I'm going to say. It was. threats. All kind of going on in here. >> Threats of violence. >> It felt like good energy in here.

>> And Yeah. Oh, it was a lot of good. energy. It was fun. >> Y'all took that serious. >> What? What Joe was talking about? >> Yeah. >> I'm talking about when Joe said he was. the most nonviolent person up here. >> Yeah. And everything that came after. >> was. >> Oh, yeah. That was jokes. That was. playful banter. >> Oh, okay. >> Yo, insert playful banter right here. Yo, some playful, relatable banter. I. mean, I identify with people out there. How's everybody doing? Good. Feeling. good. >> Good energy. Listen, listen, listen. Now. that the mics is on and now that the. cameras is on,

>> don't dupe. Stop. Yo, stop that pod. personality. Y'all do. It was a good guy. vibe in here before all this [ __ ] Come. on. It was threats. >> It was. >> It was physical playing, contact, play, fights, >> whispers. >> It was whispering about. >> juice got juice got spilled on your bag. >> Yeah, juice got spilled. It was a good. guy vibe, man. Please don't do that. thing when the mics and [ __ ] come on. Flip is back. We happy to see our. brother. Welcome back. Welcome back. >> He's saying that it's Flip that I'm.

saying your energy. Your energy saying. you said the right thing. Don't try to. breathe. We had pretty good energy last. >> They was. They was biging up our energy. We had the best energy we had. >> Y'all did fire, but that's like old man. energy. Y'all was fired, but it was old. man energy. Now we got the young. CHICKEN. [ __ ] HOLD ON. I LOVE ALL YOU HAPPY TO. SEE. what yo [ __ ] died his beard chicken.

fell in love with the dy beard when we. supposed to be beefing with fat Joe. >> I didn't use his. >> you went and bought the fat joe beard. Never. You do look free wild. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I got Nah, I ain't going to buy fat. joint [ __ ] That's y'all peoples. >> Your energy up though. >> Yeah, don't start with me, [ __ ] Cuz my. gun is unloaded. >> Yo, where you was at? >> My gun is unloaded, boy. That's not. good. That's not good. Not good. Supposed to be loaded. We got supposed.

to be loaded now. I lot off already and. I still got it ready to go. be down with y'all too [ __ ]. you you not you and not you [ __ ] down. three [ __ ] you GET IT TOO BOY. >> I LET YOU LIVE THIS WHOLE TIME BY BEING. DOWN WITH YOU [ __ ] DON'T LET ME TAKE. THAT DON'T LET ME TAKE THAT privilege. away. >> don't let me take the privilege AWAY. >> LET ME REMIND you [ __ ]. >> hey get him too come on I didn't hear.

him. >> oh see. >> I don't hear that he got to talk louder. I'm black don't let me. DON'T LET ME GET AT YOU, BOY. I'M ON. THAT. SO, let's be out. Let's be chill. Let's have a great show. I want no. problems. I want to participate cuz you. guys have been killing. >> Yo, I hear you. I stand down. >> I stand down. >> I stand down as well. >> Look at that. Look at that. How long How. long How long that's going to last, y'all? >> Not long. All right. >> For me, I stand down this whole episode. >> He No, he going to shoot. >> Oh, boy. >> He going to shoot down. No. One guy. All.

right. One guy you going to shoot when I. leave. That's a 52 fake gun. >> Wait. You stand out. You stand down with. Flip. >> I stand down period. I don't want no. smoke. I love you, brothers. >> Happy to be here. It's 70° outside. It. is nice. It's nice. It's beautiful out. >> You can't use all your hangry days when. on nice days. >> You got to wait till it's up outside and. be angry, depressed. >> But you like that weather. >> I love that weather. >> Yeah. So, you ain't going to be bad in. that weather either. >> Yeah. No, that's my weather. That's when. you get you got your [ __ ] off this 70°.

day. >> I thrive in that weather. No, I'm cool. Lawyer fees lightened up. Oh, congratulations. >> I knew something was different. >> I'm chilling, man. >> Now you going to go back to starlet. >> Feeling great. Not at all, man. I'm. engaged. >> I'm engaged. >> And I ain't going to hold you. When I. woke up to take my little 4 in the. morning bathroom time, I seen a starlet. video of an walking in there. I saw that.

>> shirtless. >> Shirtless. >> Yeah. It was he was an artist. >> The animal. >> but I guess Yeah. >> Yeah. The animal. >> Yeah. I seen it was an artist named. animal. He walked in there. >> shirtless and I guess that's part of his. thing. >> Yeah. >> You know. Yeah. >> You stay retired. >> Streets got it. The streets got it. >> What happened? >> Elaborate though. You got to see it. >> I can't. You would have to see it. You. got hard or something. >> You said you was standing.

>> That was crazy. That was crazy. >> I understand how your brain went there. from what we saying. >> That's where your brain be all the time. I understand. >> We talking about a dude walking in a. strip club. >> Oh, yeah. I see his point. >> Oh, I see. >> If you don't stand down there, I get it. It's cool. >> I stand down. All right. I stand. I. don't want no I'mma light him up. >> Him. I'mma light up at some point if he. keep playing. I'm not good. But anyway, then I went to then somehow that if you.

pause on the video, the algorithm think. you searching for that. >> So his song then came up like a couple. slides later. >> Okay. >> Why you pause on the video? I'm just. curious. >> You didn't pause on the video. >> No, I did not. I saw this and I was. like, "Oh, yeah." See, I was in the club. like, "I'm out.". >> But anyway, next in the next few slides. is growing. I. >> I heard his song. Mhm. ain't a bad song. >> Also, he doing what he got to do.

>> And it matches now that I heard the song. on. He's killing everybody. >> He's everybody. Everybody dying. >> Show his. >> No. No. Go to the star video. Go to the. star video. Yo, when you hear his music, >> everybody dies. Oh, you got Oh, then you. don't you don't even understand. I'm. just saying if you don't hear if I was. in any club and saw. >> Give me that. Give me your phone. >> Give me a phone. >> Cuz I went on Spade. I thought you was.

on Speed. >> I was on GoP. We'll get to it. Come on. Anyway, come on, man. Let's have a good. time. I didn't mean to start open. Let's. get it, >> [ __ ]. >> Oh, there you go. There you go. Oh, I don't even like the. >> Whoa. The ads let you know, right? >> Yeah.

I. hear that. >> I heard this. I was like, you know what? >> I understand. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> My bad. You got it. >> Godamn.

>> Damn. Listen, cut it off. >> N cut it off, man. That [ __ ] I was. scared on the toilet. >> I was on the toilet. >> Let him walk in however easy. >> They got a y'all got it that night. Come. on, homie. >> That night, y'all got it. I seen. bartenders coming underneath like, "Yo, I'm scared just watching this [ __ ] I'm. calling out.". >> Oh my lord. Anyway, good to see you,

brothers, man. Mark, wake up. I'm crazy. Wake your ass up. Anytime we start. talking about [ __ ] dying, you days off. into the sunset. >> I get sad as. >> Yeah. Wake up. Godamn it. >> Crazy. >> This [ __ ] is nuts. Yo. >> Oh man, happy to be here with my my. brothers, man. >> Likewise. Missed you, man. I miss. >> really missed you, man. >> I missed y'all, too. >> Where you was at, Flip? >> None of my business. >> I was moving though. >> I was outside, man. I was outside. I was. in Miami and like that. Then came back a. little late. >> So [ __ ] throwing pain on you and. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, algorithm. games I'm playing.

>> Ah, >> you know, try to get get it get it. going. Oh, I'm killing it. Anything for. >> anything try to hop in the bag out. there? >> What you mean? >> Anything see you and like what they saw? >> Yeah. >> Anybody try to approach you and hop in. that duffel and you had to be like, "Yo, come on, man.". >> Of course. >> Come on, man. You know, I got to marry. you. >> Come on. You know I got a wife. >> Yeah. You know what it is though? You. know, I mean, when you when you dye your. beard and you out there looking a little. bit different, glowing, looking happy, you know, the money is coming in, you. get approached by different people. So, you just got to just maintain your.

integrity. Talk heaven. Talk more. Look good too, Flip. You look. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. You look. good too as well. >> Yeah. Living for your last name, not. your first. >> Yeah. >> I don't know the [ __ ] that be, but yeah. >> Yo, y'all [ __ ] stupid. All.

right. Oh, I'm sorry. >> Come on. Come on. Let's have some fun, man. >> Let's have a good time, man. Let's get it. >> All right. I like I like this. >> I ain't going to lie, man. That don't. have big in their top five. I can't talk. hip hop. I promise you. >> I promise you I can't. I can't. >> That That guy right there. >> Yeah. when all of those dropped for them.

to still be that descriptive. >> still sound good today. >> timeless. >> not dated nothing just. >> that voice and just flow and just. god damn. >> mad different flows. >> I related to big story a lot more than. hoes on their debut. >> I can dig that yo knock the A.

>> sorry. that was THAT WAS A NICE START TO THE. show though. >> Welcome to episode 9. >> Yo, what episode is this? >> 974. >> Welcome to episode what? >> 974. >> 974 of the Joe Button podcast. I'm your. humble, gracious, grateful, extremely. happy to be here. Uh, showered, well. rested, well thought out, well groomed, you know what I mean? Feeling good, feeling great. I'm so happy to be here, man. I'm Joe Button gang is here, man. I.

got a squad here for you guys'. entertaining, entertainment, enjoyment. To my right, come on, man. Kick allstar. >> Queens allar. >> Come on, man. T-Mobile sidekick allar. almost was a NBA 2K allstar, but things. but things didn't pan out the way they. were supposed. Hopefully hopefully they. circle back. Things done changed. >> Make some noise. Queens get the money. Big Queens flip in the building.

>> Oh [ __ ] Let me get the drops, man. I. bugged out for a minute. I bugged out. Let me get these drops. >> This park is this part. This park set. >> Uh What? >> You. I'm FROM THE WEB N ERA. IT'S THE NETWORK. NETWORK. Who was that? [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> Why many always acting like my money?

>> That's a drop. All right. This episode. is brought to you by fueled by powered. by prize pics. Prize pics gang. All right. We got Philadelphia's finest. Uncle Bobby bookstore. [ __ ] go cop. something. >> Our good brother, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill, is in the building. Mark, how you doing, man? >> I'm all right, man. A little under the. weather, but good otherwise. >> I see that I see that Monday shape up. >> Yes. The same one I GET EVERY YOU KNOW. WHAT'S FUNNY?

>> NO, YOU KNOW WHAT'S FUNNY? AS HE WAS. TALKING ABOUT BARBER LAST WEEK, YOUR SON. AND I HAVE THE SAME BARBER. >> YO, why now? My son is in ON IT. SO, I. WAS IN THE BARBER SHOP YESTERDAY. I WAS. LIKE, "ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE THE SAME. BARBER." YOU WERE LITERALLY CLOWNING MY. BARBER AND YOU SENT him to the same. barber. >> Mark, that was is clowning your barber. That's what you know you hate. I know. you hate to think that your good brother. was clowning on you. I'm saying I. noticed I noticed your Monday haircut. and I'm saying you were right. >> Uh-huh. >> Mustache on point. You looking good. today, man. You looking good. Don't too. many.

[ __ ] barber groupy as yo, let's have a. conversation about my brother Mark. Oh, I cut his hair. [ __ ] don't have. conversations like that, boy. Now we. going to introduce again my. >> anyway Mr. Thousand Doors and up King. Waw Wa Mr. Queens Child Project himself. Mr. Howard home. Mr. Morgan State home. Mr. Morgan State homecoming on flaccid.

flaccid and. >> FLUSTERED TO SAY WHAT UP CUZ IT WAS. >> BIG in the building. >> [ __ ] what's up, man? How you doing, bro? >> Saw you out there, too, boy. DC. Homecoming. >> No, >> I ain't get the comment out there. >> We saw YOU, BOY. I AIN'T GET THE. COMMENT, BUT I SAW YOU, BOY. You was. right on campus, huh? Mhm. >> Trying to feel young again. It's over, boy. You miss your shot.

>> They kicked you out. THEY KICKED YOU OUT. OF COLLEGE. IT'S OVER. YOU STILL GOT TO. GO TODAY AT 50 SOMETHING YEARS OLD. COLLEGE, MAN. Shout out to you. We love. you. >> You don't know. >> I got invited to a couple. >> I got invited to A COUPLE, BOYS. [ __ ] I. DIDN'T HAVE TO I DIDN'T HAVE TO SNEAK ON. CAMPUS, [ __ ] THEY INVITE ME. YO, YOU. BE. SPECIAL GUEST, BOY. >> He on you now, [ __ ]. >> I really don't think he know. He don't. No. Where's homecoming? >> It's when you come home. >> Okay. No, homecoming is not when you. come home. They have a game sometimes,

right? All the time. All the time. They. have a game. And I guess it's a. celebration with the colleges. They do. >> I don't know. >> That should happen. That do. >> I didn't go to college. I know that they. invite me there and they teach me when I. go there. They show me stuff. They show. me. So you making fun of people. That's with. mental disorders in college. >> What are you talking about? ABC's. >> It's all right, bro. >> A B C D.

>> A look at. >> Yo, bring up bring Come on. Freeze, man. We slow down. >> No, no, no. Slow down. I'm about to do a. joke. I'm about to do a joke with Imani. Homecoming in college is an annual. multi-day autumn celebration where. alumni, students, and faculty come. together to reconnect, show school. spirit, and celebrate the university's. history. >> That's it. >> See, >> you describe what. >> now. >> What the [ __ ] you got to do with that? >> Yeah, take a sip, [ __ ].

>> What the You think? >> I went to the school. >> and he was celebratory. What are you. talking about? You feel stupid, right? You feel dumb, right? You know I went. there. You feel stupid. wasn't kicked. out of there. But listen, >> you just you went there, >> but it don't say students that went. there. >> Alum alumni. >> Alumni are people who went to a school. >> You don't have to graduate. If you went. there, you could still. >> Even if I was there for like a week. >> like you in a Bergen school. >> Yeah, that. >> a. >> Were you invited in? >> He got off on the technicality. I didn't. like that. >> He got off.

>> How you feel? >> I feel anyway. How you doing, man? >> I'm good, dog. Yourself? >> I'm good. I'm good. Did you run out of. the That's That is logo. >> No. >> It's been a while. I haven't seen you. wearing your joint in a while. >> You know how that [ __ ] go. >> He's retooling. You know, we come up. I. wore I wore some [ __ ] We make a lot of. money. We. >> I got it on for him today. >> Oh, that's true. >> You said what? >> I wore some of your merch that you got. >> This is the original. >> Yeah. >> It's one. >> No, you welcome. [ __ ] you stopped. wearing your. >> I didn't. But it's not real, bro. I We.

We good. I can't. >> He got some cooking up. That's cool. That's all that mean. >> Oh, he retooling. >> We cool. Me too. >> Now you stepping it. I seen they they. posted the price of that last fly ass. blue sweat suit you had on. I was like, "All right.". >> Stepped up from the helmet lang. We in. that next class of sweatuit you working. there. Anyway, oh freez. >> Listen, >> listen. Mr. Take it further himself. The. freeziest of them all. >> Mr. He don't play. >> at all. >> Big freeze.

>> Big freeze here. Mr. Let it grow in the. winter on some JUST FLY. >> just on some fly. I shave it in the. summer when it's hot. >> In the winter time I get hairy again. >> Teen wolf again on. How you doing, man? Good. How y'all. doing? We real good. We real You look. like you ain't got time for our [ __ ]. today. I'm just laughing. I had a long. weekend. That's all. Had a long weekend. next to him. Huh?

>> The man. The man of the hour right. there. >> Yeah. >> Why are you all. >> How do you eat? >> I sound good on there. Y. >> we said you sound good. >> That's peace. Y it's good seeing y. >> but but but why did you leave your. jacket? Like. that is We going to talk about that. little R&B opener. We going to talk.

about it. Look at Look at. >> She won. Look at. >> He won her [ __ ]. >> Why Why would he leave his jacket there. since you making a fail? Let me here. Come on. At least explain it for the. people that. >> It's a bunch of. >> It's people out there that don't that. didn't live your life. >> Come on, Mac Daddy. Warm in there. >> Come on, Mac. >> The second line explains it. >> The second line of the song tells you. promo for your song. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Second line. >> Yeah, she cut it off. She cut off. >> She cut that off after I cut. >> We going to get to that. >> I left my jack. Let me hear the second. line, man. Let me hear in this.

conversation. Let's hear what he did. >> No, he wanted to get caught by a [ __ ]. He did what a [ __ ] did. Hey, come on, [ __ ] Come on. He wanted to get caught. E, YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THAT. YO, HE IS. THAT [ __ ] HE HID THE JACKET BETWEEN. THE COUCH. E, >> he trying to get you what he jammed up. >> Hey, so she so she can be his all you [ __ ]. TODAY. HEY, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH YOU, BOY. ANYWAY, THE man Mr. That's piece is.

here. Big Ammani in the building. How. you doing, man? >> Great. Gooding. Good. We love that. You. look You looking great. Looking great. Next. El Myers finest. Big Parks in the. building. >> What's popping? What's popping? >> Po is in the building. >> He's Paul's got the lumberjack. >> He's hold. >> Yes, >> he's back. >> That's the sentence. He's back. >> Yes. Po stepped. Y'all thought.

>> Big Po. Yo, some of y'all out there make. me mad, yo, when y'all don't know how up. here carry it and the white people up. here. >> Parks had his birthday shindig on. Saturday. Some. >> I was in there with my fiance. >> Parks was there with his wife. Corey was there with I mean. that. >> he was there. >> He was there and then we all looked to.

the door. >> Uhhuh. >> Po walked in with some heavy. Are you ready? >> Are you ready? >> What's going on? Tell what's going on. Yo, they thought Po wasn't going to. step. >> He steps. He steps. He came in with the. flannel, too. The nice sharp flannel. >> Carrying something, too. >> I ain't see no bags, but.

[ __ ] was holding. >> What? I looked at Paul. Paul like. >> you got a round of applause like a. standing ovation party. >> Yo, Paul like them thick black joints. Now, >> shout to Paul. >> I ain't going to hold you. I thought it. was a little I thought it was a dry. period. >> You got Popped up. >> Po walked in with something heavy. Good. to see you, Po. Man, Erikson is here. Ter Savon here by remote. Savon still 20. grand down. >> Uh, and that's what we got, man.

Hopefully y'all enjoy this episode. What's popping y'all? What's popping? >> Chilling, man. >> Feeling good, man. >> Happy to be here. >> Word. >> Good. Absolutely love that. Absolutely. love that. >> Good. Good energy. Top of the week. >> Word. Good energy. >> Good. >> Yeah. >> Good. Good. Good. I asked this at uh Park's birthday. Uh. then I guess I asked it again. They're. like. rim friends. >> You said that and I started dying. laughing. >> What happened? >> Said they starting to get older. >> We're all getting older.

>> They got older. >> And a lot of them were my friends. So. they're going to be older. >> Wait, what? Wait, what? >> A lot of them were. >> They get jammed up. What' you tell? >> I'm not getting jammed up. I'm telling. you who the people was. your friend. >> Parks always throws like a nice just. chill. >> I love a bar shindig. >> Shindig. It ain't even a hangout. It's a. shindig. Yo, good food. >> It's always a good time. >> Good drinks, bartenders. >> Got to have the bar. Yo, >> they got me a little [ __ ] up though. >> I was mad I couldn't drink with you. But.

yeah, you still not drink. >> No. No. But. >> I thought you would break it for me, but. it's cool. >> I wish I could, but. >> he standing strong. >> No, y'all was dope. It was really good. time though. Really good time. It was. good foods, good good vibes. >> Anybody else did anything that I might. be able to tease during the broadcast? >> Nothing to tease. >> Make fun of make jokes about. >> really guarded for me, boy. [ __ ] see. scared to tell me when they go to the. gas station. >> God damn.

>> Look, you was moving though. >> Back to flip now for the same. >> I mean, no, you ain't really get on a. recap of like Miami and the carnival. >> Miami was good. Shout out to the. carnival. Miami carnival. I had fun, man. >> Your family had a good time. >> My family wasn't there. The JR was there. with me. >> Shout out to JR. He returned, you know. what I mean? That was great. Filming. with JR again. >> Um, it was it was it was wonderful. though. I had had a good time where you. stayed. >> And I stayed in Fort Lauderdale. >> Oh, okay. That's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> That's good. >> I stayed in Fort Lauderdale because it. was close to the festivities.

>> It's a little more family oriented over. there. >> Exactly. Of course. Airbnb instead of a. hotel. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Like six floors. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean what floor you. on? >> I was on top. >> We've we've passed the stunt part in. your story. >> What? >> Sometimes you catch it late and then you. try to bring the stunt back. Six, seventh floor. We. >> Okay, I I got to get. >> you in Fort.

and they building it up. >> Don't do that. Yo, they. >> That's a great place. >> What you going to say? It was nasty over. there. >> That's not what I'm saying. I don't. play. I'm not playing with that. >> Where did you fly into? >> I flew I flew into Miami. >> and then you might as well flew into. >> I flew to Miami. >> I don't think Frontier was going to fly. >> No, it's okay. I flew United. >> I flew United first class. >> Why you a fly to Fort Lauderdale? >> Because I didn't fly to Fort Lauderdale. there because I booked my ticket to. Miami. I was playing I didn't book my. place till last minute.

>> I was planning on staying in Miami, but. then the festivities was closer over. there. Yeah, I didn't feel like driving. 30, 40 minutes back and forth. >> You don't need to be in Miami. You ain't. going to do all of Miami. >> Same thing I was thinking. >> Yeah, go to full out of there or. Hollywood or something. >> I was over there just chilling, man. I. was enjoying myself, man. But these want. to make jokes. You know these [ __ ]. that don't spend money. You don't spend. money at all, [ __ ] You going to stay. with your Muslim brothers. You don't. spend money. You You know everybody at. Airbnbs, [ __ ] I don't spend money. Spend money. I get it. Spend money. You. You don't That don't spend money. That's. why you gigging it like little [ __ ].

Yeah, Fort Lauderdale, [ __ ] I stayed. in Fort Lauderdale and enjoyed myself. >> There's great stuff there. All you can. eat. I bet you did. >> How did you know? You eat nothing. >> Yeah, like oldhead Vegas. >> Yeah, you went to the Golden Mad. [ __ ] Stop. >> Mad people was beautiful. Please. >> Old Vegas is kind of lit, too. >> I know. >> Old Vegas is lit. That's where you want. to gamble.

>> It is. That's where [ __ ] talk about. they win. >> Yeah, man. Miami. >> No. >> Nah, never that. >> Yeah, I enjoyed myself. >> And you was on You was on stage. performing and all that this past week. You did good. >> All that. All that. >> What was your performance? I ain't see. it. >> Um, well, I didn't perform in Miami. I. performed out here in the city. >> Out here at GK. >> Oh. Oh. >> Yeah. Yeah. That was. >> Huh. What song did you say? >> They just did a 50 set for me. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. Queen [ __ ] You know, everywhere I. go, I just represent Queens no matter.

where I go. But it was fun, man. It was. fun. I got to meet a lot of people and. be in a comfortable environment. Man, I'm getting older, man. >> I'm getting older and I want to say that. like I'm over here looking at the type. of content that I did last year. >> I want to update it a little bit cuz I'm. getting older. I don't want to do the. same thing. I'm getting more tired. >> Can't do the long walk. So, it was a. real me and Jr. sat down and. >> got the scooter. >> Shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ] Don't ever rush. me to talk about my son. You [ __ ] ass. [ __ ]. >> Are you crazy? Don't ever rush me, [ __ ] Don't ever rush me when I'm. talking about my son in my my drive.

accelerate to Yeah. DON'T TRY TO ACCELERATE MY STORY. [ __ ]. SAID, "All right, >> come back.". >> No, you're. done. I love y'all. >> Jay-Z. >> Jay-Z. >> Jay-Z is rumored to now be headlining. the Super Bowl. I see various media. outlets reporting that. I don't know if. it's confirmed or not. >> I don't believe so. of I don't think.

it's confirmed. >> As of now, it is not confirmed. >> We've been speculating. >> Are we are we going to pretend like it's. confirmed and just go from there? >> Can we do that? >> I mean, I think we can have a. conversation like it happened, but just. add the caveat that Jay-Z hasn't. confirmed it. Super Bowl hasn't. confirmed it, but it seems like I mean, major news outlets are reporting it. >> Okay. >> It's confirmed in my head. >> Yeah, it's been confirmed. >> It's been a while. >> Yeah. And just because October is when. they typically announce. >> when New York Post posts 5 hours ago, Jay-Z chooses himself for Super Bowl. halftime show.

>> Yeah. But when you click the link, they. say according to a report, they say he. hasn't confirmed it. >> Same thing TMZ did. October is normally. when they announced who is performing. for Super Bowl. >> Normally, well, in the last few years, maybe with the exception of Rihanna, you. can tell the year before that that. person is gearing up for the Super Bowl. Uh, all of those things seem to be at. play with this Jay-Z non-announcement. So, I it does look like to me he's going. to be the person doing it. >> And I think he probably wants a more. grandiose announcement or not grandiose,

but something a little more uh. appealing than just having all the. outlets reported this way. So, I'm. pretty sure they're going to. >> How do we feel about it? >> How do we feel about it? Come on. We lit. Avengers, huh? What's happening? >> I'm excited about it. >> I think it's dope. >> As a Jay-Z fan, I'm extremely excited. >> Yeah. I just need to know who else gonna. be with him just because I think it's. going to be a great performance because. I love Jay-Z performances when he's at. his best. But I think for the Super. Bowl, it has to look a certain way and. so I want to know who the guests are. I'm assuming Rihanna's going to come.

out. I'm you know I mean there's some. people I assume are going to be there. just cuz they fit the Super Bowl. Beyonce Beyonce of course will be there. Yeah, that was I didn't think that. needed. Yeah, you're right. Beyonce. number one. Rihanna will be there for. sure. I'm curious to know who else will. be there. You might see some Chris. Martin. You might see you know it'll be. interesting to see who he puts out there. to make the show. Alicia Keys another. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In the show with Kanye. >> No. >> No. >> No. I don't think they No game. >> I would love it. >> A kid. A kid can dream. >> That's a good point. >> A kid can dream. >> And e to your point of a grandio.

announcement. >> He got his uh LA shows this weekend. >> Okay. >> So, this could start putting it out. there and then the actual announcement. can come. >> I don't know if I like it. >> Why not? Um, like we all know I'm a Jay-Z fan, but I think that um, in the position. that he's in and and his ties with the. NFL, I think you let somebody else do. that. You know what I mean? I think that. he's in a space where you should let.

other artists enjoy that as opposed to. doing it yourself. And it's kind of. almost unfair that you tap tap your own. shoulder to perform. I think that's kind. of it. >> But he's let other artists do it mad. years though. So he should never do what. you're saying. >> This is the year though. It's it's a lot. of celebratory behind him this year, this go around. You've already been. celebrating. Did the Yankee Stadium. joint you doing LA, did Paris, like if. there's any moment to have it, this. would be the time. If he did it just. next year when there's really no. attachment to it, then I would kind of. be like, >> and in fairness, I mean, as the year is.

winding down and I'm looking at all the. albums I bought this year and I'm. looking at the Grammy ballots and [ __ ]. there hasn't been a lot of people making. noise. >> that are of that level. So, >> it's a good point. >> Aing the hole. I'm going out there. >> Yeah. And I agree with Emani, too. Like. the timing of it with the blueprint and. and Reasonable Doubt anniversaries make. it make sense. I mean, because you could. argue he had all these big moments. because he created all those big moments. to justify this big moment. But I'm okay. with that because it's annivers It's. anniversary stuff. I'm I'm I'm good with. >> Yeah. Yeah. Toss. I'm excited.

>> I guess. >> I'm not excited about it. >> Yeah. Like. >> I'm not excited. I'm just going to throw. that word out there. I'm not I'm cool. I'm a Jay-Z fan. So cool either way you. do it. Awesome. You don't. But am I. excited about it? Hell no. >> Actually, this is probably the most. anticlimactic announcement that you. could possibly have. I agree. I'm not. excited at all because the whole records. I want. >> because of his partnership to the NFL. like ish said because you know he got. all of the friends in the universe but. they're not going to announce none of.

them. They're going to keep that top. secret for me personally. >> All of Jay-Z songs that I would want to. see at a show. Number one, I've seen at. a show already between Bides and all the. shows I've been to and the records he. would need to do for Super Bowl. I don't. give a [ __ ] about seeing them records. before. You're leaving out one, Joe. >> The one that's going to come from the. album he's going to drop right before. the Super Bowl. >> Cuz if that happens, that's a game. changer. Cuz we were all debating. whether he'd have an album by the end of. this year, whether have whether he's. going to have one in September. But if.

he drops an album a week before the. Super Bowl, a month before the Super. Bowl, he right after the Super Bowl, he. do. I'm just saying there might be a. track he does on there, would that. change your feeling about it? >> I couldn't say because I don't know what. that song is. But I'll say yes just for. the conversation because if he cut all. the music off and started rapping ac. cappella on the Super Bowl stage, I. would be the only one in my living room. excited. >> I would be throwing [ __ ] like if I get. MC Ho somehow. >> But that leads to my next point too. All. the reasons I love Hoveve.

>> and what has been happening. I'll toss. it right to you Ice when I'm done. and. all the things that have been happening. at the Super Bowl recently with. storytelling. I don't see it f. >> like when you talk about the story that. Bad Bunny was able to tell in his. >> everything and the arc of his show, the. design, the same with Kendrick and the. same for that uh West Coast show a. little bit. >> Oh, I think you're wrong. >> At Yankee Stadium, there was a story. that he told on the screen and not that.

was fire. Go ahead. >> He he absolutely can tell a story. Um my. thing is when you was talking about the. freestyle or cut or cutting the beat out. ac cappella, >> do we think whole uses that moment to to. take a stance? >> Cuz that's what he typically does in his. in his. >> You changed what I said. Take a stance. >> I don't know. >> Do we think if he does an ac capella, does he take that moment to take some. kind of a stance on something? See, I. never think he's ever taken a stand.

>> When he do them a capella shits, it. sound Yeah. Yeah. That's what it sound. like to me. I don't hear the stand that. he takes. >> That's what I just said. Take a stand on. what? Like when he do the ac capella. chips, I'm shooting at all you peeons. that me all year. Yeah. >> You know, I don't agree with that. either. I don't I don't agree with the. not being able to tell a story thing. because I think if you talk about just. the culmination of 30 plus years of. being in the business, you've had. probably your most active year as an. artist. Well, as a performer this past. year, >> the tip the tip off is doing the Super.

Bowl. Something I never did before. Something people have always talked. about whether I would do. >> you changing what I'm saying about. story. >> So, I think I think that coincides if. you start from reasonable doubt. I think. there's a record you can take from there. that will begin the story. Let's just. say you take the Kendrick approach and. you don't have to always do cuz Kendrick. didn't do any like real popular records. at the moment. He did off his new album. I think Jay can tell that story off of. each song from his projects. >> to culminate and make a story about his.

progression from being the street. >> to now being a [ __ ] pretty much doing. >> I don't think that would be interesting. >> I don't think so either. >> I don't think that would be interesting. I I think the bad bunny story which was. like a bigger. >> smoked that I mean what he did about. >> that's also the times too but Kendrick. >> him and Kendrick went crazy. got a story line for sure. but I think Jay can do that I mean with. this much of a lead time and the I mean. he has the best people in the world to. >> well he can do it. Yeah, he can go and.

get the same people that helped Rio uh. that help everybody and he can do it. >> But is it popping off of the page to. anybody? >> No. See, and. the story and this is the thing too. When you start do talking about the. Super Bowl, they have to be kind of the. mainstream songs. >> That's not true. >> Not true. >> Kendrick just did a a one mainstream. song and it wasn't it wasn't received. the best. >> It's not true. Huh? >> It was not received the best by the. people in the audience. They said they.

didn't know. I'm not This is not making. up. >> in the Yeah, >> they didn't know the songs. All of that. stuff. They said that the people were. sitting down. They weren't getting up. Y'all might have uh appreciated as fans, but I'm talking about mainstream America. does not know the songs from Reasonable. Doubt and all those other that we fell. in love with. Mainstream America don't. necessarily know those songs. So what. Joe said earlier was, yo, you got to do. the Hard Knock Life, you got to do the. New York, you got to do all of those pop. songs on mainstream songs to to to. resonate with everybody.

>> I don't see him doing. >> I think I think he'll get carded off the. stage of Hard Not Life coming. >> I don't see him doing hard life. >> That's not true. I think you have a band. and you have a music director back there. that would know how to take those. records and musically turn it into. something that would even if it's not. the full record, it's something that. Segways into another joint. This is not. just someone playing getting a DJ just. spinning the joint. So he can take. these. We seen it. He can take these. records break them apart and have. somebody Adam Blackstone is back there. You didn't have people really put. together. Are you Are you guys saying.

that the street that he rapped about. before wouldn't resonate with the. people? Is that what you're saying? Or. you guys are just tired. I don't think. he does on the Super Bowl. >> What I'm saying is that is it it's about. telling a story. So where he start. started off as a street hustler to where. he if he tell that story in 13 minutes I. think it be we watched him at Yankee. Stadium. I watched him tell a story and. mixed things. I watched it on the I was. looking at the screen mostly of what he. was trying to tell. So he got 13. minutes. >> You don't think he can't take 13 minutes.

and go from the block to the board with. and he don't have to do streets is. watching. He don't have to do but he has. to do something. So he has records that. he can make a 13-minute set make sense. to a story while still touching his. mainstream. >> I don't think any self-s serving Jay-Z. story that that you're going to try to. tell visually makes sense at on the. Super Bowl. I agree. >> Like when we talk about stories, Bad. Bunny wasn't bad bunnies. Yeah. The same with Kendrick. I just. don't see it. >> But he can do that story. He can tell.

story. >> But Jay-Z can tell that story. It don't. have to be from the block. It could be. I'm a kid from the inner city ghetto and. he could do it without the drug dealing. record. Still the. >> we got that he can. All I'm saying is. >> you don't see it. >> It ain't jumping off of the page to me. When they announce Bad Bunny, I don't. speak no Spanish. >> Not at all. >> And it's Oh, I kind of get where he can. go with that. Like you can visualize it. >> Well, because you know what he's. standing for though. Same with Kendrick. I just don't see it with Hove is all I'm. saying. Not saying he can't do it. >> I'm You're not talking about his. ability. I I think Jay-Z will tell a.

story that will jump off the page even. if I don't agree with it. Even if we. come back the next day like yo, it's. like it's like when you look at songs. like listen songs like God did or. whatever. He's he's telling a very. particular story about how about. success. I'm not talking about the song. I'm not talking about performing the. song. I'm talking about the the. narrative inside of it. I'm saying that. could be part of his visuals. That could. be part of his song selection. This. whole idea of how he could transform the. world from this to this, which. >> is self- serving at a certain level, but. could also be a bigger argument, especially after all the done going. through with Colin Kaepernick. I think. he I think he's going to feel.

competitive and I think he's gonna feel. a pressure to explain that he's really. the good guy in this. >> Random uh random question for the room. Is there anybody here that believes. Jay-Z is a better storyteller than Big? >> No. >> No. >> We have more storytelling to pick from. from because of. >> I think his story is probably more. compelling cuz Big's got cut short. I. guess he's had a longer time to develop. >> storytelling raps. No, >> I think big big is big I think it's. close. >> No. >> Yeah, it's not. >> Big might be number one for me when it.

comes to storytelling. >> Yeah. I mean, he's up there. Yeah. He's. up there for me. He's number one. >> Slick. >> Slick. Rick is up there. Big is up. there. >> Nas. >> Nas is up there. >> I got Yeah. So, no. >> Oh, man. If this was a Patreon boy, if this was a Patreon, >> you can slick based off what? I don't. put Slick Rick. >> I think being a prototype is something. mad. >> I think Come on. I was waking up. I'm. with you. I'm with you. based off here's. the answer that children. and teenage it's that whole album.

stories and they all are coherent and. the. >> great adventures of Slick Rick is that. album anything else. >> that's enough. >> I'm asking you is there anything else. that's all I'm asking. >> I think I think that's the answer but. but I think it matters the win of it. it's just like I give you example y'all. going to get mad well I don't care I'm. going take a hot take. >> Rock Kim is is obviously an elite MC. >> but if Rock Kim comes out 20 years later. we have a different conversation about. where he ranks as among lyricist agree. with that. It's just a fact. You know. what I mean?

>> You would never stand a Well, not. because like. >> no very few people would put say I'm. better than rock, right? But there are a. lot of people there is a decent number. of people I can name that are better. lyricist I think than rock at this. moment. >> At least five. >> Yes. I don't know about that. >> When is the last time you put on some. pain in full? Cuz I still put them shits. on and be like, "God damn that.". >> But I think five people know what he's. trying to say about the time. I almost get for the. >> I understand the example you're using. I. just think Rob Kim is the wrong example.

cuz he's still nice. >> I think I said I think there's five. people in the history of humanity that. might be better rappers than him. >> Just five. >> Maybe. Maybe. But I don't think. >> I thought maybe Andre I mean I just said. maybe five. You know what I mean? >> I don't think any of them would say they. were but carry on. But that's part of. because of the time. If Rakim came out. today with the exact same skill set, I. don't think people would necessarily. have the same conversation. That's no. disrespect to Rakim. I'm saying the fact. that he revolutionize how we rap. >> matters matters. >> Same. And same thing with storytelling. I'm saying. >> I agree with that in a lot of cases just. not rock. Fair enough. So, so for me. with Slick Rick, I think part of it is. why he's an elite storyteller is not.

just have there have better stories been. told in children's story. Yeah, maybe. But I think when you help create a. genre, I think that. >> it's easier to build on something that. somebody else. >> evolve into what they become at that. point. You laid the foundation. >> because of children's story and. motivation story about those tough that. whole entire that's what they was doing. him Dana Dana them [ __ ] that's what. they was doing back in the day like that. is hard to do my [ __ ] And he was doing. it on later records as well. Just maybe. not to the commercial.

>> When I'm talking about big storytelling. >> big is incredible. story to tell. >> If you put big in number two, I'm not. mad at you. >> I got him. He's one. >> No. No. Oh, I don't have. >> Wait, what? Hell no. >> I don't have enough. Biggie is the best storyteller in hip. story. >> Biggie to me is the best hip. storyteller. >> He's big enough for me. >> One Patreon will argue. Those are the right people. >> What happened to Slick Rick stories? [ __ ] went to a pizza shop. >> Stop. >> That's good storytelling.

>> That [ __ ] gave you. >> You told great stories about going to. buy furniture and like don't necessarily. be the most. >> compelling. All right. So, so. everybody's kind of just like blah. >> about. >> I'm not excited about this. I'm excited. >> But yeah, but hold on. Are you coming. from the point where y'all feel that. well the people feel that Jay-Z sold. out? So, >> no. No. >> No. Okay. All right. I'm never put. That's what That's what I'm reading. online that people feel that he's sold. out. So, and you got in bed with the. NFL. So, what story you going to tell?

>> Many had thoughts. >> I'm just saying good at doing this. You. good at throwing me. >> You made a face. >> The only reason why face is cuz I'm kind. of in feeding off of what you was doing. as well. I don't I don't say what I. think. I just thought you. >> Yeah. I don't agree with that. >> You don't agree with what part? Mark, you go. >> I'll say I'll say this. Jay-Z has made. some decisions and some choices selling. out. I'm answering the question because. I don't think it's a yes or no thing.

You know what I mean? I don't want to. oversimplify for a sound bite. I'm not. into clicks. >> There's a um. >> Jay-Z's made choices and concessions, I. think, to be partners with the NFL. Some. of which I don't agree with. >> Understand? Um, and I think that some of. those choices makes fans, myself. included, look a little bit differently. at this at the whole NFL partnership and. the performance choices. >> Okay? >> You know what I'm saying? So, I I I. think saying he sold out is too simple. I mean, Jay-Z's always been who he said. he saying somebody sold out is almost. like you were this and then and then. they offered you some money and you.

became something else. That's not. Jay-Z's been who he Jay-Z has always. been who he said he was since 96. I'm. not calling him a sellout. I'm just. saying he moves in the world in a. certain way. In these NFL partnerships, he had to make some decisions. The Colin. Kaepernick situation is a great example. of that. You know what I mean? And so. >> I think that I'm not excited about the. announcement, but I'm excited about the. show. >> to you. I think this is I mean Cameron, Ray, Daniel, a whole bunch of people. have been saying this for a long time. this was going to happen. So it's hard. to be excited like when you see like. last few years where there's like a. commercial or some drop that happens on.

the internet where you like, oh is Bad. Bunny, oh is Kendrick, we knew it was. going to be Jay-Z. Only reason why I. don't have a problem with it is because. I feel like if when we start talking. about artists that should have done it, >> Jay to me is one of those artists. >> Okay. >> Same how we had the conversation about. Usher and all. There's certain people. that I feel should have the opportunity. to touch that. >> should have that on their resume. >> They should have it on their resume. Jay-Z should have that on his resume. And if there's any year to do it, this. is the year to do. >> And I'm not going to hold you. If I'm in. a position where I'm picking the people.

and I'm a people, I'm picking me. >> Especially in my year when I'm when I'm. when I'm running around. >> I'm I'm I'm picking me if I don't. deserve it. I'm picking me on the way. out. I'm putting me up there at some. point. Sorry. You're going to have to. deal with it. >> Yeah. >> I absolutely hate what this does for the. fact that it's on Valentine's Day, though. >> Uh. >> that's the part that's not helping. It's. not helping. Like if it's, you know, they going to be there with them. >> Yeah. Adriiana's probably going to beat that.

sell it energy in that. Yeah. >> Justin Timberlake. >> So, so if we had to pick, what are the. songs? >> Oh, y'all. You got to do Magna Carter. >> Okay. >> What are the songs y'all think he's. going to do or should do up there? Forget what he's going to do. What do. you think. >> and then let's rap this? >> Oh, we can rap it now. I I want. >> you get in suit and tie at the Super. Bowl. Whether you get two seconds of. when you talk about guests you have to. bring out to hit national appeal. I'm. telling you. See, the more y'all talk, the more I don't want to see this choke. you. I'm not. >> Hey, Jay-Z, hear me and hear me good.

>> If you put Justin Timberlake on that, >> if you do if you do the wrong Jay-Z. songs at your set, >> I'm going to say something about. >> Do you think he could do the right ones? >> Yes. >> What are the right ones? >> Okay, I'll tell. By the way, >> give me three. >> I will. And better man, remember after. Nipplegate? >> Yeah, he can. >> There's a really good chance you don't. bring Justin Timberlake. That's so. disrespectful to Janet Jackson. Justin. Timberlake did the after ngate. >> Again, I'm not saying that they allow. Jay-Z can bring whoever he wants. I'm. saying I don't think Jay-Z in his own. that's [ __ ] I think Jay-Z is solid on. I.

don't think he brings Justin Timberlake. out. Not for Suit and Tie. If that was. if it was like his biggest song, I I. think you might make a sacrifice. You. don't sacrifice. >> Hey, be careful what you wish for. You. might come out trying to do holy grail. >> If he does holy grail, I'm turn off my. TV. >> And maybe. >> I could see him use that as a Justin. Timberlake. Think that think that Holy. Grail is one of the greatest things ever. made. I'm telling you, >> you know, they did that. They did. >> dual tours together. Like they did. Madison Square Garden together. I mean, like Yankee Stadium together. Like they.

have a relationship. You brought up the. Nipplegate. Jay worked with him after. that. Justin has done the Super Bowl. after that. >> I'm talking about optics of doing it at. the Super Bowl. That's what I'm saying. >> I don't think Jay cares about that. And. I don't think anybody else outside of us. maybe care. I think when we talk about. the national fan base who's going to. watch, they don't give a. >> writing a strongly worded letter. >> If I suit and time strongly with you got. 71 million songs, >> right? >> You not putting suit and tie. You're 13. >> Not just catering to us. >> So you you definitely to answer your.

question. You're going to definitely. hear uh run this town New York. >> Please somebody rap it. >> We going we'll talk about close to the. Super Bowl. How about that? >> Yeah. There we go. There we go. Hey, salute all if he's doing it. Awesome. Harrah. guy, I don't think it needs a 40minute. breakdown. This it don't it don't it's. not giving that. >> What else? What else we got? >> I'm pissed off. Why. >> you might say it's too early in the. show? I don't know. But we're talking. football. Does Jaylen hurt? >> I don't think it's too early for that. >> I'm not serious. Um.

>> that is kind of crazy. >> I'm super crazy. >> I'm pissed off. First, for anybody that. doesn't know, we talked about it last. time. He they uh announced that he had. an SVT, which was a superficial. superficial vein thrombosis. And one of. the things I said here was. >> there's a chance that that could become. a DVT, an embolism. People say I was. overreacting. This is exactly what I was. worried about. They found. >> three. >> clots, three clots in his lungs. >> In his lungs, >> right? Uh according to reports, and. again, y'all can y'all know more about. this football stuff than me, but. according to the reports that I read, he. he played a game.

>> with while dealing with this issue, was. asked to stay awake for 36 hours. >> Yeah. >> Um which is these are all signs of like. gross negligence, right? Cuz it's not. like we don't know what this is. He. clearly was demonstrating some kind of. problem. 36 hours to tell him to stay. awake. He actually played well in that. game. They almost came back and won or. almost won. But the point is the Eagles. seem to have been grossly irresponsible. Based on the reports, we don't know. We. don't want to get sued. But based on the. reports, the Eagles seem to have been. grossly irresponsible in and dealing. with Jaylen's health. What they. initially said was going to be a one-ame. absence is now to the end of the season.

because of the lungs. Um, first of all, I'm sending just, you know, healing. energy, love, support to Jaylen, his. family. Forget football. >> Yeah. It's about his life. But just. hearing the story itself, man, it's. another reason why I don't rock with the. NFL, you know? I mean, they're all. everybody's bad. Everybody's whatever. But there's there's a grossness to how. they deal with the athletes bodies that. just I never can wrap my mind. >> They don't give a [ __ ] about. >> them, period. Humanity goes out the. window. We got to win a game. Is it true. that someone resigned from from the. Eagles organization? >> I I read that, but I think it was a fake. I think it was a fake report, but I'm.

not 100% sure, but I heard I heard that, too. >> Someone needs to There's a lot of people. that need to step out in that regard. This is at the point where you start you. talk about that balmer Pablo on this. Your jaw is out. >> No, I'm I'm with you. >> When you start talking about players. almost dying, >> every football team since Pop Warner, this is just one of the issues like. they'll make you sign a waiver and the. athletes are athletes. They're. competitors. They're gladiators and they. literally will put their their lives to. the hazard for this sport. >> It's a violent sport. >> No. And they love the.

>> Yeah. >> We see all any given Sunday. >> when like Lawrence Taylor's character. was like, "Yo, dog, I'll sign whatever. you want me to sign." Like, "I want to. be on the field." And that's how a lot. of them, that's their mentality since. they were little kids. Yo, bro, you see. a lot of linemen, they they fingers are. [ __ ] up. They have life. Do you have. to remove the humanity out of it? I. mean, I get it. It's a violent sport. You do go to the table knowing what you. present uh uh the risk that presented in. front of you. But some of the people. that's in the suite, some of the people. that own, you have to have some level of. humanity to know.

>> for future, even longevity sake. I would. rather go ahead and take care of him for. this year so that he can prolong his. career instead of I'm with you, but at. the same time. >> like somebody sitting there and telling. you, "Yo, dog, I hear all that I need to. be in the game.". >> Like I there's no there's no other. world. I got to be in the game. What I. got to sign? I'm lying. I'm fine. No, I. feel better. What makes this one. different from me from the like Tua. situation that we had a couple years ago. is that he's made his money. He's got. his chip. Like he could probably they.

they could have played this different. You know what I mean? I don't know if he. was even so hard. But maybe I don't know. how the blood clash works. Is it one of. those things where you feel like you're. fine? Everything seems like it's fine. Sometimes you want you've been through. some of this. I' I had exactly what he. had. I just had more clots. But you get. at some point as the blood go you don't. >> deep vembosis you get you get soreness. in your calves, your legs. But again, you're athlete. You're always getting. hit. You may not. You're always sore. You're never not sore. >> But they found this early. Remember they. he got stepped on or got cleed. >> Yeah. They find a clot.

>> at that moment. It's okay. We we still. let you play after that. That's where my. problem comes in right there. >> So what they said was. >> blood clot is different, >> but a superficial clot. The idea is that. it's closer to the skin and so it's less. likely to break. Cuz the issue isn't the. clot. It's the idea that. >> it wasn't a deep one. >> That it was a deep one and so it won't. it won't cuz once the clot breaks, that's when it travels up and that's. when it gets to your embolis, right? or. your to your throat your lungs, right? And it becomes a pulmonary embolism and. that's what happened. So for some So I. don't know if they misdiagnosed the. superficiality of it or if there was. something else going on. There are some. studies that I read that show that like.

usually longterm these SVTs can turn. into deeper problems but not usually. like the next day. So it sounds like a. misdiagnosis from the doctor in the UK. cuz they remember they were in the UK. when he got the diagnosis. >> Isn't traveling or traveling makes it. worse. Flying makes it worse. Yes. It. makes your blood thin out a little bit. >> You had to fly from London. you're not. circulating. That's what they tell you. to get up and walk around. >> Do your compression socks or whatever. the case may be. Like um when I had. mine, they they gave me the screens. though, >> like they put these little uh it's like.

mesh almost in your legs so that the. clots can't travel. But for him, unfortunately, they got up to his lungs. from his calf. So that that's a real big. thing. Again, prayers out to him because. it ended the season. But [ __ ] the. season. He could have died. >> When your life when your life is. >> That's a heavy D. Rest in peace. Passed. away, right? You're on a plane. and you. you end up on a four or five hour flight. and this happens a lot of a lot of. people die on flights from pulmonary. ambulance. >> Yeah. >> What's your next order of business if. you're Jaylen Herz professionally? >> Um I would be looking at my investment.

bag. >> I'd be calling my turn. >> if I do decide to play again. I don't. think I want to be at the Eagles. >> Really? what that based on how they if they if. they. if they did. >> have the knowledge and let's be clear, you can have the knowledge for certain. things, but we're talking to physicians, we're talking to doctors who know way. more than what the we know. We kind of. base what we do off of their word. So, if you're telling me or not telling me. something and I'm moving along just like. I'm a tough it through. I am a a sports.

man. I'm quarterback. They need me. And. then I found out that you guys knew what. could I be at risk at of happening to. me. I need to get the [ __ ] away from. y'all. This is my life. We talking about. >> I agree. If it's if it's the worst case. scenario, I agree. Yeah. If it's worst. case, >> I suspect that's not. >> I suspect they had a bad medical. analysis in in the UK. >> That's what I think. >> And don't start won't be none. They they. probably waited till they got home, had. them play the game. Also, understand the. Eagles aren't having the the best season. after starting off two and all. If if. they're 4-0, I think they may have dealt. with this differently. You know what I.

mean? If I just feel like when you feel. like every game is a must-win game now, they take more risk with the players. health. I'm not saying that's okay. I'm. just saying I think that's the that's. how you almost naturally do. >> anyone anyone in life that might have. had a moment you've had a moment where. you've had to come to to with your. morality right. >> I think him now having that moment you. just paranoid about everything and. everybody around you all that I need to. get the away and let me reassess what my.

life [ __ ] he's married like. >> I'm married I gave y'all I gave y'all. chit I'm rich. >> I'm rich. >> I got my guarantee. >> I got my like I'm I'm cool. >> Uh NBA preeason has been happening and. one of these reporters uh made a mistake. and put a microphone in front of Kyrie. Irving and asked him. >> how would it feel to. >> see how does it feel to see LeBron and. KD and all these people playing so late. in their career and is that something. that he would like to do? And Kyrie just.

one of the realest [ __ ] ever when he. find that answer he gave where he just. eloquently stated. >> I almost want to find it. He said that I. hear it. >> He said the NBA is not the NBA that I. fell in love with. He said I still love. basketball. He said but now when you. look at the social media aspect and you. also look at the gambling it has kind of. tainted the sport. And he was like so I. don't see myself playing past 40 like 42. 43 years. >> I'm good. He said while he loves being.

an athlete and that flame will always. burn inside of him, >> because the game is not the one that he. fell in love with, he focuses more on. being a great human and not a great. athlete. >> So, his family and just other things. that he wants to accomplish in life. >> So, I'm not just putting all my worries. here in basketball. It's awesome. I did. it. I had a good time, but I have other. things that I'd like to do. >> That's a great I loved it. That's a. great u mental space to be in though.

because a lot of people they don't start. thinking about this after the league. until it's over. >> Do you have to still play? >> What you mean? >> And when I when I ask that Kyrie is he's. he's done well for himself. >> Yes. >> I think whatever he's done he he will be. well and not have to worry about. >> and that's an assumption cuz we don't. know what the right money but let's just. say his finances are clear and. everything. No, that's the that's the. that's the mindset of somebody that's. free. >> Yeah, he ain't it ain't tied to no.

money. It ain't tied to this is somebody. who is already free just from their. outlook of things. >> Oh, I'm asking that. >> So, you saying you could just play? You. don't have to be in the NBA. >> Yeah, but you would play the high. school. >> He said he No, he said he would always. be close to the game because he loves. it. So, whether that be coaching or. helping the youth or Got it. Got it. >> He's going to still be attached to. basketball just not as an NBA athlete. is what he said. >> Um, and now it's time for my favorite. part of the show,

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>> Yeah, you ran game. All right. HEY, I COULD HOLD IT IN. HEY, I SAW THE. NEW LICENSES [ __ ] THAT THESE GOT. TO. I HEARD THEY PREFER VERBS IN THE CLASS. OF WORDS. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE NERVE. CHILL YOUNG MAN. YOU COULDN'T COVER. THAT. >> EVER SINCE IAN WENT OVER THERE WITH THEM. BILLIONAIRES. HANG ON. HUH? WELCOME. THEY ACTING UP. THE PRICING IS AND YOU. AIN'T PLAYING WITH THEM BOY. THAT'S A. CLIPIER.

It's good. DON'T GET TOO COMFORTABLE. A lot of you. is MAKING CAREERS OFF THIS CONTENT AND. KICKING [ __ ] BACK AND WHILE YOU EATING. OFF OF [ __ ] NOW. YOU GOT TO WORK FOR. IT, [ __ ]. >> YOU GOT TO WORK FOR IT. WORK HARD. I'M. NOT TALKING ABOUT NONE OF MY [ __ ] OUT. THERE. >> EXTREMELY, [ __ ]. >> I see. I swear I AIN'T SEE. >> [ __ ] THAT [ __ ] IS. >> WHAT? >> THEM [ __ ] TOOK AN ESCALATOR, [ __ ]. >> IAN, WHO YOU TALK TO? THE [ __ ] SEE. LET. ME THE [ __ ] THAT OWN GOOGLE. WHO IAN. WAS TALKING TO?

>> YOU SAID THIS TO ME. HE WAS TALKING TO. SOME [ __ ] THAT OWN GOOGLE. >> HE FLIP just sent it to you. You already. sent it to someone else. >> Wait, WHAT? >> We out here. >> What is wrong with y'all? >> Yo, Ian Ian has made some updates to the. Clipper the Clipper program. >> He's made some updates to the Clipper. program. It is now a tiered system. That.

[ __ ] up charge up. Hey [ __ ] Yeah, >> it's a tiered system. Get in where you. finish. Shout out shout out to all the. clippers out there. I hope everybody's. doing well, man. >> Them [ __ ] pay they rent. That that 500. don't get you. You get one sound bite. You get. WE GET OUR DROP. >> YO, this fire, >> Mark. That's hate cuz you're a Clipper. You can't hate on the on the smaller. >> I'm not hating at all. I stand in solid. dirty. >> You can't hate on the smaller. Are you. are you up in up to you?

>> Yeah, you were his person. >> You asked a lot of questions. >> You want to answer his grandfather then? >> Oo, I forgot about the [ __ ]. >> That's good. >> Um I I'm mind the business that pay me. >> Y'all know Mark ain't got a grandfather. >> Don't do that. >> Don't do that. Don't do that. A good. joke on his arm, BABY. THAT'S MY DAD, [ __ ].

>> YO, MARK, WAIT A MINUTE. YO, NAH, NO. THIS AIN'T RIGHT. Y'ALL BETTER CHILL THE. OUT. THIS IS NOT RIGHT. YO, my girl end. up showing me. She said, "Oh, these put. all y'all the fans put all y'all baby. pics together. Look at you." She was. looking at me as a baby. Oh, you look. like your mom. You look like a mom. Then. she went through the slide. >> I didn't see this. >> They got Flip as a baby. >> How? They got light-skinned criminal. over here as a baby. Got Freeze as a.

baby. Got a Young Parks as a baby. >> And they got you as a baby, but it's. with your dad. >> Yo, when I tell you this is the funniest. in the world. >> Oh, I know picture. >> cuz his dad is 90 in the pick. >> And he's holding Mark's 8 months old. >> Yo. Yo, y'all fans better chill the out. Yo, stop playing. Honestly, >> I know the py. >> and I don't think y'all ain't funny out. there. >> Oh, Jo outside on the lawn or something.

>> No, no, not I. I think it was a J C. Penney or something. >> Yeah, it was one of those. It was, you. know, the old school pitch where you had. to go to Sephra. Mill. Just cuz you was there for the grand. opening don't mean I ain't know about. that. I know. I've been there. Yeah. >> Yo, here. Yo, who here? >> Yo, who here took wallet size pics with. their kids? >> Wallet size pics.

>> Where you at? >> What people what people do today? Don't. play my kids. WHAT THEY DO TODAY? >> What they do today is they take the pics. at the school and you get the school at. the school. >> No, no one is doing pics at J C Penney. Nothing with your kids no more. No one's. doing that. >> No one's doing that. on Christmas time. they doing it. They are. >> people take pictures with they broke. hate to be. who going to tell them holidays is a big.

business. >> When's the last time you did it? >> Yo people my kid I got I did this with. both my kids. >> at J C Penney. >> No one talking about you. We move past. that. >> No, we're past JC Penney. >> Who has wireless size picture with their. phones? The [ __ ] is not going out no. more getting photographer. >> Yo E, go to Jacksonville and take the. picture. Okay, >> I got you. >> Where your kids at? We ain't left. pickle. >> Yo, go down. >> I'm done. I'm done. >> Y kids out of the house, too.

>> I stand. playing. >> Take a pick. Yo, don't just box with. them. Don't just don't just fight them. >> They got temper. They got temper. problems. >> All right, here go that corny ass [ __ ]. out. Y keep playing. Keep playing. Yeah. Still. >> that [ __ ] a sick. >> It was corny to do it. Like I feel it. was corny. Listen. And I did it. My. first baby mom, we went right to [ __ ].

ser and I work there. >> Yo, everybody pull out their wallet. >> I had to go down to the first floor by. the washers and dryer. Oh [ __ ] Joe. What you doing now? >> But yo, chill, man. >> Pull out your wallet picture. >> Me and my Well, now you're hating about. >> I'm just saying y'all said y do it. right. >> We got We got wallet size pics with our. kids. E, >> put them up. >> We ain't say they was in our wallet. >> You know what size means? I'm actually. just the size of the picture. >> He just got a wallet. >> Can Can y'all Can y'all pull out the. picture right now? Get his. >> All right. Do you have a piggy bank.

picture? >> Okay. >> Okay. I want y'all to know y having a. lot of jokes. Y having a lot of jokes at. a at kid jokes expense. >> I stand. >> now. When I start cracking at some of. y'all with y'all kids, I want to go. >> cuz your jokes hurt more than mine. >> I'm going to go super low with you. [ __ ] Y'all better y'all better slow. down. >> I don't want no smoke. >> with the joking with the kids. >> I'm chilling. Yo, >> man threats work with me. I'm not. standing down. >> All right. >> I stand down, man. >> He's in the mood. >> Get you a couple. >> No, I ain't in the mood.

>> He can get pics though. He just had them. together. He could get pics. >> Take You got. >> He can though. Make a joke. I DON'T LIKE. THAT. I DON'T like that joke to my man. >> He can. [ __ ]. >> you get knocked out for your man. [ __ ]. up here is too quick to ride. Somebody. got to get knocked out with him. Don't. ride for Monti when I'm talking to him, though. It can get you in serious. trouble. >> It can it can land you in a situation. >> Sign me up, [ __ ] Sign me up with a. book. >> And that [ __ ] you be doing where you. aggressively when you explain your train. of thought during the disagreement that.

worked with them cappers. >> Hey, simmer down. >> Easy on the cappers. >> Simmer. Simmer down. I mean, he backed. two cappers down. >> He called you a sucker when you told him. not to. He told that other white. You. know what I mean? Who did? >> All right. So, listen. >> Oh, see now you being nasty. >> You being nasty. >> I'm joking. So don't y'all get serious. while I'm joking with you. >> All right. I hate when. >> I WAS PLANNING MY COMEBACK. >> I'm kidding. For me, I'm kidding. >> Who you planning a I got him. WHO YOU. PLANNING A COMEBACK FOR? Towards me. Cuz. he said it. >> Oh, I thought he was coming at me. As I.

said, we on the same side. OH, WE ON THE. SAME SIDE. >> I'M NOT USED TO THAT. OKAY, WE GOOD. All. right, Sonic. No. Are you on his side. today? >> Abandon this right now, [ __ ]. >> Sides. I don't even know how I Yeah, [ __ ] So, switch out. Switzerilla with everybody. I thought. about that, too. You cool. >> You know what's funny? I' I've been. alive long enough that I forgot what. that means. But anytime it's said during. the fight, it's thing. >> I'm Switzerland.

>> It's never a compliment. >> Yeah. Now, it's thing when somebody say. that. >> in neutral, >> but saying you're Switzerland. sounds that sound, you know, during. during an exchange, I don't like that. >> I'm tired of your frontier, too. I was. now we cooking. >> I'm tired of your frontier. >> For a [ __ ] to know everybody for a. [ __ ] for for a [ __ ] to know as much pe. Excuse me. For a [ __ ] to know as many. people that you know. >> and you have a friend here. You just do. it in front of I'm tired of it again. I.

DON'T I'M NOT doing Yo, there's no. friends here. >> You got a friend here, [ __ ] And these. [ __ ] ain't friends. >> He has a friend here. That's it. >> Cuz let me tell YOU SOMETHING. EVEN. THOUGH LET ME JUST SAY THIS. EVEN THOUGH. IT IS DON'T INVITE ME ANYWHERE, he shows. me that he cares about me in other ways. when I need him. So he put it's a front. tier. He does things that friends do, but he just don't he don't let you pass. a certain level. >> That's called being friendly. No, it's not. Hell no. I don't agree. with that. E, hell no. I that frontier.

you got, boy, [ __ ] if you don't put ME. AT TIER FIVE, [ __ ] I'M SLAPPING THE. [ __ ] OUT OF you next week. I promise. you, [ __ ]. >> I'm slapping you. Yeah. Get up. >> You might already be in tier five. Oh [ __ ] I say tier one. See? >> Yo, speaking of tiered systems, I'm. trying to go. >> Yo, that that clipper tier. >> Check it out. Which. >> Which one do you recommend? >> I'm I don't recommend anything. >> But what would you prefer from. Switzerland? >> I'm Switzerland. Coming up, boy.

>> I'm Paddic. I'm Paddic. >> It's better when you say it about. yourself. >> Yeah, true. >> I'm Switzerland. Yo, I'm Switzerland. Y'all, I want to spin black uh spin back. the block on some of that music talk we. had last pod now that I've had more time. to listen to some of these albums. >> Okay. Okay. >> I don't know what I said about the Lucky. Day album last pod. >> This is heat. >> Yeah. You said you only listen. >> No, didn't say it was trash. He said it. was trash. and you said yo, you can clearly tell.

more when a [ __ ] changes their teams. and all that other you said. Couldn't be. more wrong. >> Couldn't be more wrong. When I first. downloaded the album, only like eight. songs came up. Three of the first eight. were the singles I had already heard. So, I didn't pay it too much mind. I. told him after the pod I would go get. with the rest of the album, see what's. going on. And I did that. And I did just. that. This is heat. This is I ain't been. playing nothing but this Lucky Day. album. And hold up now. Hold up, man.

Hold up. Hold up. Hold up, man. See, and I started playing a little bit. of this last part, but again, I be. needing to I be needing to sit with the. >> I'm saying that at talk to me, which is. track four. He takes off for the rest of. this project. >> I even like wet now. >> Wet is eight that I told you I didn't. all the way love. >> cuz what's before margarita lime is. before that, right? >> Margarita lime goes into anything goes.

goes into wet goes in the freak side. Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold. up, hold up. Goes in the freaking side. Let's let this rock for a little bit. Lucky day. Whatever I said last pod, disregard. Please ignore. It's heat on here. >> And I feel like it's important for me to. highlight highlight this stuff because I. was so critical of his last project and. because of the criticism. Like, it was. just really, really, really, really. different. It was really different. and.

all of his projects before that one. There's a Lucky Day bop and a bounce. that he has. It was very different type. of music. I think this might be his most. traditional R&B album that he's put out. And I don't and I don't know if that's. because this is also. >> probably the only Lucky Day album I've. ever heard where he was a single guy for. the whole album. >> Every song on here, he's a single guy. >> I'm saying traditional R&B when you said. you said you think this is more. traditional than payment. payment.

painted. >> Yes. Painted is with the music uh uh the. music sample, right? >> No. Yeah. No, that's Rose Somemore and. all that. >> No, it's not. You're wrong. >> You're wrong. >> Go look at the track list. >> Rose some more is not on Painted. >> Okay. >> But let me check. Let me check. Uh let. me play this money long record. Hold on. They all fire. Yo, I can't lie. >> It's all heat. Yo. Uh that that's what.

it is. >> Huh? >> Outside of the singles in the first half. of the project. >> Somebody's playing something. Oh, this. is me. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Outside of the singles on the. first half, and it's not a lot. It's. probably like maybe three or four. records. The first half to me doesn't. hit as good as the second half. I like I. like the second half the more I listen. to it, but overall I it still doesn't. stand as one. >> Yeah, cuz Nowhere fast. Whatever. Intro. to down is an intro down whatever. Talk. to me. Hey, feel how you feel. I like. it. But from Yeah. No. From Talk to Me.

to Fly You Out to Margarita Lime. All. that. >> after the wet is crazy. >> Yo, my favorite song on this project. though might be Come on, man. And again, all of these songs sound very R&B, but. all you're talking about is bagging in. different places. All we do is smoke, >> drink, >> drinks, and pass out. >> I think it should have been PO, but I. mean, who's counting? >> H Okay. Okay. I like smoke, too. Listen, >> he takes off on the on fire.

>> No, the album this album. >> It's that parts. That parts. >> Oh, that's the album's good. >> No, no, no. I'm not saying it's not. >> Yeah, but that parts add a little. >> It do. It don't sound the same when in. the car. >> Listen, I've been playing it forever. That that this this album, he did what. the he was supposed to do. If you're. asking me if you're asking me. Listen, everybody won't always ask me because. there's some people out there spreading. narratives that I've lost my music ear. And to the people out there that believe.

that, this next record I'm about to play is. not for you. But to the people that do kind of pick. up what I be putting down on some of. these R&B joints, what it is, the sleepy. sounding. Listen, we done broke too many. R&B acts, too many R&B records up here. when the world had no idea. I with the. up and up and coming R&B people. I think. the the true greatness and R&B lies and. the grassroots kind of like hip-hop used. to be.

>> Uh, >> hip-hop still does from time to time. >> It just be in and out. comes in waves. >> Yeah. >> It's Lizzie Burchie though. Hip to Lizzie Burchie. >> This Lizzie Burchie though. >> Another London. It's London. She from. London. >> From London. >> UK. That UK R&B is taking they doing. something playing real estate. >> There's a real talk to this. They going. back. >> There's a real talk to be had there. It. is. >> Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. >> That's tough. That's tough. >> That's tough.

Listen. >> God damn. Your boy got it. GUY. YOU. >> LOSE your time. >> No, that right there. Alex would have. sent you that. >> and then I'd have been mad. I'd have. hated you. >> Would have came in like, "Yo, brand new. How the [ __ ] punch this [ __ ] in his. face? >> Lizzy virtual.". >> Yeah. How to punch this [ __ ] in his. face. >> Anyway, man. Uh, while we on music, while we are on music, come on.

>> Oh, do we have sirens? You want you hear my siren? Go ahead. Do. yourself. >> Yeah. I DON'T KNOW WHAT A CAR slamming. on brakes. THIS. >> sound like Scooby-Doo, right? Me trying. to be a siren. >> Oh, it pains me to have to do this. >> Yeah. >> What? Do what? >> It hurts me right here, boy. But I got. to do it. >> Got to do a breakdown. >> Got to do a lyric breakdown, man. Yo, Crime in America on the way back. Retooling, man. Stop playing. All right.

Hold the [ __ ] UP. >> Here we go. >> Listen, last part. Ammani brought the. smoke to me and Ice's door. >> And he was trying to fight with me and. Ice. I give it to him. But you got to be careful who you who. you hit. You. >> got to be careful about sometimes you be.

talking about people a little too loose. >> loose out the mouth. >> talking about saying people names too. cavalierely up in the spot. So what. Jammani did about a young artist by the. name of Ken the man who's not a man by. the way for all you people thought Ken. the man was a man you're. >> Ken the man. is is one of them and it pains me that. Ammani had to learn. >> oh wait.

>> with belt getting to absolute ass man. let's play this real quick. She said he sings at the bar. The bar. >> No, >> not like she bar the baby rolly. Yeah. Yeah, that was the one. Baby roll. >> Oh, you throwing it back like flex. >> No, I want to pause it. >> This dish right here. >> I want to give you a chance to answer to.

something. >> No, no, no. >> Dude, do but do you have a baby rolly? >> Yeah. >> Guess what? Guess what? Well, she didn't. cuz I wasn't wearing one. So, but let me. just tell you something. >> No, but she saw it somewhere. >> He got three rollies. >> Tell her. >> No, I'm sorry. >> I don't need to tell her. >> He got a nursery. >> Tell her baby. >> But listen, you got a nursery. >> See, this [ __ ] right here, HE LUCKY HE. ain't staying for Patreon CUZ I'MMA AIR. HIS ASS OUT. >> HE GOT A NURSERY. NO, ROLEXES. I'mma air.

him out. cuz Mark's trying to get his feel back. off of my back and I already know what. it is. I'mma clear him out early. Let's. go. N let the music play, [ __ ] I got. you. I got you. >> OKAY. >> YO, your your DJ skills lacking. You. supposed to. lie.

ended them. >> Wow. >> That to make your soul burn slow. >> Ended them. >> Ended them. Hey, she ended that [ __ ]. He went and recorded a podcast, you. guys, called That's Peace. It ain't time. for peace. >> Yeah, that's peace out right now. >> It's time for violence, [ __ ] You ain't. spending. >> Let me ask you a question. How many. times anybody else? >> You ain't queue up that Usher my way. >> Y spin on a woman. Y'all don't spin on a.

Y expect. that deflection ain't going that. deflection ain't going to work today. though. You ask me a question. >> You're right. We don't spin on [ __ ]. Now back to you. >> You ain't going to queue up that Glenn. Lewis. Don't you forget it. >> No, no, no, no, no. Um I think she has. every right to respond how she wants. from her name being brought up. Um I. think she was still wrong at how she. took it, but that's cool. Nobody cares. How she the. >> uh when we were over here making our.

faces cuz we felt like the record wasn't. hitting that you were doing as well. We. have the camera. So now I'm just going. to snitch on. >> you. Mark, you sat I looked at you. You. did the same face. We didn't like. >> my face was like why is everybody. looking like so disgusted by you [ __ ]. hide behind? >> I feel like this was on par with some of. the greatest disc records of our time. Who shot you? >> T-shirt and buttons. >> Hit them up. T-shirt and buttons for. sure. He ether not like us. Super ugly. No Vaseline. This is right up there. It's just not going to get the same.

credit and a claim because the target. was much smaller. >> All right, let let me ask you. >> They ain't going to give Ken her credit. >> Let me ask. >> But let my joke sit for a minute. >> I made a good joke. A good joke. >> I made a good joke. You trying to talk. over? >> Go ahead. What you saying, man? >> No, I thought continue the joke. >> No, it's done now. >> You don't got no instrument. instrumentals in there. >> Yeah. Listen, Ken the man, I'm on your. side in this beef, but I do have some inside information. cuz my man is my man. Pause. So, brand.

new exclusive. Ammani replying to that kinder man right. here live on here. Let's go, [ __ ]. Let's go. Let's go, boy. Oh. Oh. I heard someone was talking [ __ ] about. me. Oh yeah, girl. Hey, >> that's Park.

Listen up, Kman. Let's go. >> That's a fact. It's It's hard the double. time like on the spot. >> Hey yo, guys. So, y'all can get your. jokes off at my expense. That's cool, right? I'm with it. I'm I'm all with it. I do think shorty had a really dope time. with it. It's over for you now man. Uhoh. BRAND NEW MONEY. LET'S GO. I KNOW MY BOY WAS UP WRITING.

ALL NIGHT. I KNOW YOU AIN'T THINK YOU. CAN GIVE MY BOY THAT MUCH CHANCE, THAT. MUCH TIME WITH A NOTEBOOK AND A PEN. LET'S GO. NEW EXCLUSIVE [ __ ] LET'S GO. E TALK THAT. >> HEY, I just want I just want y'all to. know. >> Yo, he dead, kid. >> If you had this moment, >> yo kid, he dead. I'mma give y'all the. runway to say what y'all want to say. Are y'all going to let me say what I. want to say or y'all going to keep. stepping on what I'm saying? All right, there we go. Thank you. I think this. [ __ ] was funny. I think she did nothing but help me. prove my point.

I think that's all she did. Salute. You. had a funny joint. If we being honest to. me, this is still whack when it comes to. rapping, but it's funny. Get your jokes. off. I don't want to step on the on the. disc, but she proved my point. She proved my. point. What was your point? My point is. that she all the same and she. he great getting the man like it's. expected that.

I'm ahead. Give me that lyrical kind. man. >> I'm rating good. Go ahead. Get. >> I'm also I'm also Let me be honest. This. is what I want to say. Never mind. Kend. man, >> I'm looking at some of you funny in the. light. Here we go. Let them talk, [ __ ]. >> I'm looking at [ __ ] a little funny in. the light. Cuz when get dissed by. whoever it is, they. >> squash it. >> Immi stand tall with [ __ ] stand by. their side. I don't do none of the. kiking in comments. I don't do none of.

that. I ride with I might get a little. joke in there, but I don't make it. So, all the fake laughing in the comments. Cool. Oh, [ __ ] You know, you know how. do flip? >> You sent this to us. Did you send it for. support? You. >> collaborated with We all, we all do. that. But what does that have to do with. jumping in there? So, I want [ __ ] to. know. I'll make it clear. >> You did. >> I want you [ __ ] to know. >> Commented on the. >> Hey, do me a favor. >> When you all his friends was in the. comments. >> No, my No, all my friends wasn't. He did.

a collaboration with K. >> It wasn't all my friends wasn't there. There's a bunch of corny in there. >> There's a bunch of corny in there. But I. want to make it clear if it was that why. you collaborating with you don't ever. why you collaborating with like a clown. is talking for himself included. >> Immani is not doing any backing up for. anybody else. See Mark do that but Mark. is scared of [ __ ] in this industry. >> Mark go behind the scenes and talk about. behind back on camera and START KEYING. >> SO WE GOING TO BE WE GOING TO KEEP IT.

SOLID UP HERE. MANI STANDING FOR SELF. IMMANI AIN'T GOT no more support for. within they beefs. I seen Mona Mona do. her yo let's go Mona when got at you the. only [ __ ] that came up here and stood. for you was me. >> but that was her friend that's her. friend. >> I don't care do me a favor we not we on. the man. >> hey that's. you trying to threaten us BACK ON HIS. SIDE WE DON'T HAVE your. >> I'm going to be on everybody outside. moving forward which is my side.

I got no support no backup no nothing. for nobody. everybody is that what you're. I want everybody. >> I'm asking you. Did you want us to help. you, Jumbo Girl? >> Oh, see you got a lot of energy, too. >> I'm asking I'm witnessing him, too. >> You needed help for for kidnapping the. man slaughtering you. >> I think I think when [ __ ] get dissed, I think when everybody else got dissed. up here, >> got their little moment. >> We don't care. >> Ain't nothing. Yeah, we don't care. >> The fact that a whole podcast that's. supposed to be co-workers.

>> went up there and wanted to be a part of. the the the dismantling. You. collaborated That wasn't for you to go. ahead and get in the comments. You sent. it to us THAT POSTED ON YOUR PAGE. >> What that guy do? >> You think Jay posted either? >> When Two Chains came here, [ __ ] I. said, "We jumping on.". >> Me and two. >> When Drake When Drake said the dick. sucking [ __ ] I said, "Man, that. >> maybe you should stop.". >> When a said this about him and Mona, I. said, "Man, [ __ ] that. We standing. tall." Even though it was funny. I just. think that it's funny that when you put. the light on, I don't support the same.

way. It's all salute though. First of. all, it's a lot of comments here. >> First of all, let me speak. Let me let. me speak to me. Yo, >> Mark is AT THE TOP. JOE'S RIGHT THERE. 6,000. It's a lot of I see. Come on, Joe. You put Yeah, exactly. with mad. fire emojis. >> Mark said, "I can't wait to come to. work." You put So, I don't take You take. Mark as a Mark Corny [ __ ] on Spaces and. all that. When I got spaces, YOU WAS THERE. >> HE He said, "Yeah, salut." And then did. all the corny [ __ ] on. WE WAS THERE.

>> MARK is a whole another issue. saying. that since you collab with with with her. and sent the uh the. >> the post our way, we thought that you. would be down with it. >> No, no, no. Speak for y'all. I didn't. think that at all. >> I did. I'm just on Can the man side of. corny R&B? >> Maybe this is being confused, guys. This. is not serious. I'm I'm joking about. >> Well, it can't be serious cuz you dead. >> Let me say. if that's the case, how long you been. dead? >> You dead after Drake and all that. How.

long you been dead? >> Oh god. I mean, I'M JUST SAYING IS DEAD. IF I'M DEAD, YOU [ __ ] REALLY WANT TO. SEE THAT. >> DRAKE being the murderer. >> One of the greatest ever killed you. Okay. That [ __ ]. the Oh my god. End it all. Hey yo, you. know my favorite part about this is.

>> my favorite part. >> She did the research, man. >> First of. >> Thank you. Thank you. She went to CL. >> But that's my obvious but that's my. >> I mean in fairness none of us do. >> Yo, you a sucker. Yo, >> you. words can never hurt me. >> You words can never hurt me. >> It's you. YOU THE ONE. SEE, I WAS ON HIM. FIRST. AT FIRST I WAS like Joby. BUT YOU. >> [ __ ] YOU SENT IT TO ME. >> I sent it to the group chat. >> Yes. AND THEN YOU COLLABORATED. I.

THOUGHT YOU WAS IN ON IT. I THOUGHT IT. WAS A GOOD LOOK FOR YOU. LISTEN, that. place there's a lot of people who. I'm telling you moving forward. >> You not on nobody's time. >> I'm not doing no peace with nobody. >> This is a atmosphere where we cannot. together. Yo, this is an atmosphere. where like to kick each other back in. more than they like [ __ ] So I want. that to be true. I don't move like that. in my life. I don't move every time. YOU. KNOW EVEN FUNNY THAT I I LIKE WHEN I SEE. LIKE. >> HEY, TURN THAT [ __ ] DOWN WITH MY MAN.

TALKING, [ __ ]. >> I like when I see that's really in this. space stick together and B together. I. like that. I think that's fly. I think. it's more fly than when kick they back. and just to get a quick laugh. >> See, I just I'm from a different school. I'm from the school of even when it's. funny, you still ride with your team. >> So, I just let [ __ ] know moving. forward. I got no team. I'm Switzerland. >> Switzerland. I'm switching. >> Hey, Imani's for Del. >> My favorite part. Number one, I. absolutely love that Kinder Man did. this. In spite of how you feel about.

>> No, no. I I think it's okay. >> In spite of I'm not saying you, but in. spite of how you feel about. >> Kinder Man, >> her hearing something she had an issue. with in content world. >> going immediately to a booth. This was. 48 hour less than 48 hours later. >> Yeah, it might have been 24 cuz it came. out 12 hours. It came out Saturday. cuz. we dropped Saturday. Yeah, she dropped. the very next day. So, I'm going to. always champion that. I love that. Kind. of man, phenomenal job. And way to.

introduce yourself to some people who. may not have been familiar with her. One, >> two, MC brain. >> I pictured it, which made it too funny. cuz imagine you seeing something where. somebody's talking some about you. The. first thing you say is, "Yo, who is. that? Look, >> Joe, be honest. >> The first Let me say what I'm saying, please. The first thing you say, if you. don't, if you're unfamiliar, you're. like, "Yo, who the is talking shit?" And.

then you go and try to get some. information. >> Mhm. >> And as the person that's doing the the. battling, when you go to look for. information and is there, >> Yeah. >> it's like finding a pot of gold. So imagine kind of man surprise learning. that not only was this a artist, but. this just dropped the slap a week ago. and she went ahead and play. She went right to Apple Music and said,

"Oh yeah, >> and it's right there. >> Let's see what it sound like." And she. got to put Come on, man. Let's see what. it sound like, man. Cut it off, man. Oh, she cut it off. She. she cut it right off after that. Went. back. Yeah. Went back to the pin. >> Kind the man. Great job. Great job. I I. love it. In the spirit of MCing and just. competition, I absolutely love this. >> Yeah. And and and the uh the part I'm. saying tell the truth is if you really. listen to the conversation, there wasn't.

uh it wasn't a conversation based off. smiting her. The conversation was based. off of me talking about Yah. But that. doesn't even need to be explained cuz. it's kind of stepping on the moment. She. heard her her name. She's a rapper. She. wanted to get herit off. I think the. fact that she did respond like that was. fire. I do think it was funny. I don't. think it was fire, but I do think it was. funny. And I think it did what it needed. to do. So. >> if it wasn't fire, you'd be alive. >> I'm here though. >> Dead. Bernie.

>> You are we can burn. >> We can have Bernie. We can add. >> We can add Elico or some one of them. Puerto Rican names. Elico. >> El. and we um I. >> Yo, so only when [ __ ] start dissing. you again, going to do this back to you. You going to allow you going to allow. them? >> Yeah. >> All right, cool. >> I mean, or. >> Oh, no. No. No. That's not what's going. to happen. >> You ain't got no aux cord and no laptop. >> That's not what's going to happen. >> What? You know, get a key key and then. they, you know, cuz he the ball still.

out of here. >> I got to send you off to get a. Then. then it's just you and your see. >> No, that happened up here. See? >> Huh? >> That wasn't after the fact. >> No. >> Oh my god. >> What's wrong with you? You can't wait. >> Left my jacket at your place. >> I don't want nobody. >> That was the most R&B opening to a R&B. record that I've ever heard. >> Bring your R&B back. >> Yeah. >> I ain't mad at it. >> Bring your R&B back.

>> I ain't mad. Shout out to Kinder Man. Shout out to Shout out to Amani too for. getting killed. Sometimes you got to get. killed in the name of the job. Seriously. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, >> for real. Seriously. Real [ __ ] You. won't do it cuz you too worried about. optics and other people's opinion on. you. But sometimes SOMETIMES DRINKING. POWER TIGHT. WHY you Why DID YOU DRINK. THAT P? >> THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE EITHER. >> STUPID. YO, why you hate when he do. that? Yo. >> Anyway, shout out to Kenn. Shout out to. man. You're a real sport. I was just to.

say you were a good sport about it. >> Yeah. And and listen, we the whole We're. joking. >> Shout out to Kenn. >> I wasn't. >> But in in fairness, I am Switzerland. >> Well, I got real beef though, [ __ ] I'm. [ __ ] be trying to assassinate this. [ __ ]. >> NO, BUT SEE, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT TO. TALK ABOUT? LISTEN, this old piece I'm. good. THEY TRYING TO REALLY KNOCK THIS. [ __ ] OFF. >> What else we got? What else we got? What. else we got? >> I I had a question for you. Um, I was. watching a podcast. I didn't watch it. I. watched the clip and you was talking. about Elliot Wilson. You saying that um.

he was like so sort of sullying his name. or his brand and then my question to you. was what advice would you give somebody. like Elliot um who has been in the game. for a long time and he was not either. able to keep up with the times or what. advice you give him on how to. sort of reinvent himself in today's. media space because there's a lot of new. people. does a lot of new things. So, if. he's running around trying to figure it. out, what advice would you give him. instead of accusing him or saying.

somebody like him is selling his name by. just trying to figure it out? Cuz when I. look at that, I'm just seeing a man. trying to figure it out in this new. media space cuz it's difficult. A lot of. things change. The rise of streamers, the rise of independent journalists, the. rise of you could just go on a YouTube. and make any video. >> Celebrities, >> celebrities. You know what I'm saying? in the game. >> I want to know like when you say that of. somebody who comes from that, >> what advice would you give them? >> Uh for me, uh never lose their ability. to adapt.

>> Okay. >> Never lose their ability to change with. the times and be nimble. Don't get too. comfortable in one position doing the. same thing. I think that's one of humans. greatest abilities is the ability to. adapt. Elliot's been around long enough. So, the times have changed multiple. times while you were there. You gota you. got to be you got to be able to move and. shake with some of this [ __ ] And that's. not just for Elliot. That's for anybody. >> anybody in the content creation space. Either you going to be the first one to. think of the punch or the first one to. the punch bowl.

>> What you think got in the way to change? >> Is it the comfort of being corporate? Is. it ego? Is it feeling like my resume is. my resume? So, I don't see the need to. change. I always be able to lock it lock. in a job or something like that cuz I'm. trying to figure out when you're saying. that. I think Elliot had everything in. front of him to build that. I don't know. if it's a fear. You've spoken about just. fear of wanting to do the next step. >> Elliott had the namesake. He had the. credentials. He had people that believed. in what he did. Let's just say if he.

wanted to go start up uh. >> why change. >> up. Yeah. Well, I mean that's Yeah. I I. I know for me when I not my talking. about myself but when I watch my peers. who are in journalism especially music. journalism. >> there was a model. >> and there was a there was a key to. success and the key to success was just. getting a good job. >> and if you're the best at what you did. you'd get a great job and you might even. have the freedom to get multiple jobs. and do all these things but the key was. always getting the job and I think. that's how we've been trained idea of.

creating your own thing that's a new. model and people like Joe who are doing. it are pioneers at that. But even as we. watched people like you do it, a lot of. us was like that [ __ ] looks scary. >> because it was still a good job out. there. >> Yeah, >> you're scary. >> Yeah, >> it's scary. I think that and again I. don't want to be talking about Elliot. and [ __ ] with Elliot thoughts and. prayers. Um I think that when you are in. a corporate space um and a lot of times. I' I've spoken on this several times, we. just um.

take independence like it's nothing. And. if you are Elliot is 60 years old, bro. So if you've gotten a check for the last. 30, 40 years, that's what you know. They. taught you to go to college, get a major. in something, come out into the job. market and get paid. And you and you did. that and you moved accordingly based on. your accolades, whatever the case may. be. You got promotions and all that. other stuff. But so now if you're Elliot. Wilson, you at the top of hip-hop. journalism for somebody to say, "Yo, you. need to get with this new trend, this.

new streaming trend, this new podcast. trend. you looking at that like why. would I dare? I I'm always confused by. that because if you're that close to. what's going on you in corporate you. would have well no I'm just saying you. would have a little more insight to how. the industry is changing in comparison. to what the person on the outside so I. would think that you would be ahead of. the game to say hey I've been here at. corporate I see what they're thinking I. see all the other things happening I. need to get ahead of the curve. >> and at least. >> while I'm doing the corporate [ __ ] cuz. at a you were doing the corporate thing.

at a point. >> he wasn't you you said I've been in. corporate and I see what they Right? >> You don't always see what they doing at. corporate or if you see what they doing, it still hasn't popped. When Joe Button. started podcasting, was looking at that. like it was goofy. >> until it popped. And when it popped was. like, "Oh, now let's jump on this wave. Let's jump on this boat." But initially. when you start podcasting, didn't look. at it. >> I think that just cuts the creativity of. journalism though. >> Like I feel like. >> journalists are creatives. They write. they're creating something from scratch.

to to put him in the boat of just he had. a job. I think discounts the creative. brain that I think he and most. journalists are. >> I don't think they necessarily aren't. creatives and I don't want to be. >> I feel like a lot of them are I think. you're giving journalists too much. credit. >> Maybe like like like Stephen A. Smith. isn't creative, >> right? Like creative wouldn't be the. word I use. He's thoughtful and he's. smart and he's clever, >> but creatives tend to think about things. outside the box and they tend to imagine. things that aren't yet. Whereas a lot of us try to navigate. inside the system the best we can. So.

we'll get the best thing in front. It's. very few of us and I'm not one of these. people. It's very few of us who actually. can see the next thing coming and know. to jump on it. Most of us are scared, >> bro. And again, let's say hypothetically. never understand some of this stuff. >> And this is why I say this. Look, I say. this to you, Flip and Immi, right? And. Parks. >> And Parks for sure. >> And Parks. Bro, y'all have y'all adult. lives been independent? >> Yeah. for your entire you said you had. one job your whole life, right? So your.

brain is not even thinking on let me go. get a check from somebody else. Bro, when you get a check from somebody else, you don't have to. >> kill what you eat. Somebody else is. killing that prey and bringing it back. to you and you eating off of it for a. compensation. >> Your security is provided. >> Yeah. Like yo, it's a compensation. package. I I I for example, even when. you bring that up, >> the idea of podcast when it first came. up, >> I say this back 2013. podcast. >> as serious, still corporate.

>> Mhm. >> But I just knew as an artist or as. someone who needed a voice, how else do. I do it? I don't have the money to do. the marketing. I don't have the money to. do the videos. So, I need a new way to. do that. So, I'm going to go and lean. towards that. So, I would think that. Elliot, you can still have a balance of. still doing corporate while still. planning for what the future. >> Let me ask you a question. And I don't. let's not do Elliot. >> Y'all been saying that for 10 minutes. and every time y'all use an example it's. Elliot. So let me ask you a question. Not just you. If if you are if you are. and no, you know, Mommy, if you are a.

successful R&B act and you was touring. the world, >> the last thing on your mind would be. going to start a podcast of Serious. Radio. >> That's not true. >> It's not true. >> Okay. It's not I I I can't see Chris. Brown or Usher right now saying, "You. know what? I want to go start a. podcast.". >> Can Can I say something real quick? Hey. yo, listen. When the times change, it's. not easy to adjust at all. >> You're sitting in a room or you're. sitting within yourself and you're. trying to figure out, okay, you're. seeing this this going viral. This is a. new trend. How can I fit in in this. world in order to keep up with the. Joneses? And it's not easy. It's it's.

really a mental anguish, but it's that. drive to not want to fail that push you. to the next level, that pushes you. Okay, how and you just throw [ __ ] until. it stick. That's how I do it. >> I throw [ __ ] until it stick. Let me try. this. Let me try that. let me do this in. my way and and sometimes it stick and. sometimes it doesn't but. >> that's true. >> I guess because we all have fear like I. have fear every day so I understand the. fear of the unknown however it's like. when you're so good at something right.

like even before I can use myself as an. example before the streaming thing was. going on I was filming pre-recorded. videos JR would say do the streamering. thing but I was afraid to do the. streaming thing one I don't know what's. going to happen on camera two I don't. want to look a certain way three. It's. just so many things that I didn't want. to take a chance with. And then the blew. up and then when the people when you. check your old emails and you look at. the offers that you had and you say to. yourself, damn, why I didn't take that. offer? But on top of that, I still got. to go out there and get it. So harboring.

on that, what's my next move in order to. uh mature in this space? So it's fair. with everyone, you know what I mean? So. when I look at journalists when I spoke. to Star real quick, he would say that. when I first when I started this, Star. would say I started writing columns. >> That's what Star told me. I wrote for. this magazine and then it upgraded to. >> they read it radio. Then it upgrade then. it keep adjusting to Yeah, MTV. So it's. a thing I guess. >> One other one other piece one other. piece you said about the person that.

says like, "Oh, podcasting's coming. Let. me let me try to jump on that.". Sometimes when you setting your ways, you think that ain't going to last. And. a lot of people will look at it, okay, that's the wave right now, but that'll. give it a year. That'll be off. And what. what's been successful will always be. successful. >> You don't really factor in the part that. that might replace this, >> right? >> And sometimes the person that don't. think of that, they're the last one to. find out. >> That was me. >> And now you playing catchup. >> That's why I stayed on TV so long. We. had a conversation a couple patriots ago.

and Mark told Joe like, "Yo, had CNN. offered me or he told Joe, he said, "Yo, if you came out and told me, yo, dog, I'll give you $2 million a year as a. salary, >> I would I would sign right up.". >> You know what I'm saying? I would sign. right up. And I wouldn't even I wouldn't. even. >> I wouldn't even pursue all of these. entrepreneurial ventures because the $2. million would give me a safe haven. Even. though I could go make $10 million had I. potentially jumped out on my own two. feet. I'll take the safe $2 million.

That's most people, bro. >> Yeah, >> that's most people cuz you rather the. security there. >> Yes, that's the security. Also, I think. another piece of this is. >> I got a lot of push back on what Ish. said that only that that small piece. >> that that's the part that we always. >> Ish makes that point a lot. >> which I think somehow ties into. okay then then get a jam. >> That's that's and that's what we're a. lot of people try to do. >> Most people I.

>> you're talking about me or most people? >> No, I understand what you're saying. >> about people's comfort level and what. they're used to. Mhm. >> So they're going somewhere to get it. What I'm saying is I agree with Parks, right? Even if you don't view journalism. as a creative endeavor, as an. entrepreneur, it's your job to be. creative in how you do something. >> when you're an entrepreneur. >> When you're an entrepreneur, >> if you're getting a check from somebody. every two weeks, you're not an. entrepreneur. >> So now, now I want to stay in that realm. with you. >> Okay.

>> If you getting a check from somebody. every two weeks and you're comfortable. in that and then you stop getting that. check, >> Mhm. You're in panic mode. You trying to. find the next check. >> You're trying to find the next check. >> And I think that's a mistake. >> But you should go get a job. >> That's. not what. you're But that's not what be happening. People go and try to get a check in the. endeavor that they're comfortable with. >> True. But. >> wrong. That's But that's any job, Joe. Check is a job. Let me tell you, but you. you I I follow you.

>> But but it's important to paint it. >> You lost me. No, no, no. cuz I'm saying. something different than is saying it's. important what you really not. >> you then go ahead. >> any field I'll use me I was working. insurance lost my job my experience is. there so what I'm going to go do is go. to another company that gives me the. allows me to do the same thing in that. space so someone that's a journalist I. lose my job here it's other media.

companies out there though so now I'm. going to run over there and try to do. this When you go to them and they slam. the door, >> now you're a panic. >> Now you get to But now you but you you. said get a job, dog. >> No, listen. Back to the wall. You got a. career path. >> No, dog. So, see again, >> at that point, it ain't even a career. >> It's not a career path. It's just become. a part of the working now. It's. desperation and panic. >> Just become a part of the working force. >> To your point, to your point, like I So, let's use ICE. He was in insurance. Bro, your resume says I'm qualified to do.

these things in insurance. So that is. your best probability of finding another. job in that field. He not gonna now go. try to be a teacher or go try to be a. Yeah. Like yo, my job and on my resume. say that I've been in insurance for the. last 10 years. That's what I'm qualified. to do. So that's where my bread is. butter. There's no available there's no. available insurance jobs at this. >> So then what do you do then? >> Try to put food on the table. Now you're. in panic mode. >> Celebrate. I I think just in in closing,

I I think we also have to re-evaluate. what matters. >> and what value is. And I see this. happen. I hear artists talk about this. I remember a time when people would. clown people for going independent. They. would chase a major label deal even if. they made even if they would have made. more money on cot. I watched people, you. know, in my industry clown at it. >> Yeah. Right. People might literally. clown it. Right. People in my business. would love to be on TV and myself. included even when I made way more money. on the internet because it was still. something about saying I work for this. prestige. You can't pay your bills with.

prestige. You can't feed your family. A. lot of us Chase or or or a lot of people. will big up the attorney, right? An. attorney might make, let's say, 250. We'll big up the attorney, but we'll. turn our nose up at the plumber that. makes 450, >> right? >> Cuz the plumber is snaking toilets and. working in literally. And the attorney. might be Yeah. Like I'm wearing a suit. and tie, but I'm making double your. salary. And so that's just a mental. thing where we are, but when you get. caught up as the attorney or in the case. of a a a veteran journalist or a veteran.

at any field, you might turn your nose. up at these startups thinking that they. would never pop again. Bro, you are a. testament to that. >> didn't look at podcasting the way they. look at it today. >> They did not. And again, your success, especially in the black markets and. urban markets, your success made [ __ ]. be like, "Oh," and open eyes up to a. whole another venture that they could. potentially embark on. That was frown. That was shunned 10 years ago. >> Yo, you [ __ ] get an emotional support,

dog. Get you a little teacup Yorkie. >> Get you Yeah. Get you one of them. Little Chihuahua. Something to cuddle up. with at night if you're having a hard. time, man. Yeah, >> of course. We wish Elliot all all the. best and we love him and we rooting for. him. >> and all the journalists man to be for. sure. >> But if you're creative enough to write. these long, >> it is funny watching some of the. journalists try to have personality. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Some of them was. >> It do be funny.

>> Like paper, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, >> but there's also ways you could fit in. I feel like as a creative, I feel like. there's always a way to figure out a way. to make yourself creative. Yo, Claude, write me an article. You know, that's it. Um, I want to talk. about something else. Your boy, our boy, friend of the show, Tyler Perry, shout. out to you. Uh, he is in the news again. >> I don't know if y'all know, but Tyler. Perry, uh, gave his own family 60 days. to find a job or lose financial support. Uh, now Perry is worth $1.4 billion. I.

feel like that's relevant. >> Family being whom? Children or. >> or cousins down the line? >> To give you an example. In fact, in. fact, he he gave a clip. Why don't we. Can you run the clip? >> I texted it to I texted it to you and. signaled to you and did the little. >> Yeah, he did. >> He did the TP to you. >> Yo, let's hear it. >> I I feel.

I fired my heart, >> right? I I feel that fire. She she she said she. wanted a job. She was she was she would. always call asking for money, ask for. money. I'm like, "Okay." I was sending. money. I said, "Listen, I want to help. you. I want to help you build this. thing, not not be welfare to you. So, let me give you a job." She was wasn't. coming in calling in all the time. She, "Okay, well, you got to go cuz cuz you. want me to hand you the money, but you. don't want to work for it." See, that. doesn't that doesn't work for me. And. it's the same way with my son. Like, he's 10 years old. Like, there's certain.

things that he wants. He has to do. chores and work for it. I don't I don't. believe in giving us things that are. just going to handicap us. That is the. worst thing you can do. And I've had. family members that I've done that to. because my mother has asked me to. And. when she passed away in 2009, I sent all. of them letters saying, "Listen, you got. 60 days to become gainfully employed. because I'm not going to keep supporting. you like 100%. They all got jobs." And. and it wasn't even jobs where they're. making a lot of money, but it was a job. It was something else for them to do, feel some pride in. That's the same. thing I would want somebody to do for.

me. thoughts? >> I don't I don't think he said anything. wrong. No. >> Either. I. >> It's an older clip, right? >> Yeah. He said 2009. >> Yeah. >> I. >> I don't I don't think he said anything. wrong. Even when it comes to the kids. Like, of course, you're not making your. kids work for everything. But you are. setting a precedent for your kids and. and and gearing them up for the world. where nothing is free. >> So, if you want this, you want that. If. I'm asking you to clean your room and.

that at the end of the week you get $20. allowance, whatever the case may be. Some of the I've read a book uh forgot. what the book was, but it talked about. think um the Kennedes the Kennedys the. Kennedys or the Rockefeller kids. One of. them. >> what they would do with their allowance. is their their father would make them. give a detailed account of where all. their money went. So if it was $10, you. had to save 10%. You had to give away. 10%. Then the other 80% you could blow. on bubble gum. It didn't matter what you. spent the money on. You just had to keep.

a detailed account. And what that did. was prep them for the real world and. train their brains to basically allocate. where all their money was going and keep. a record of it. >> I think as a little kid when you are. getting uh chores, it builds a level of. responsibility in you. Yeah. Yeah. Like. so I'm not mad about it. >> Who gets money for free? >> But for y'all like is there somebody in. the family that gets it no matter what? >> Your children. >> Yes. >> Children. I mean, children are a little. off the table because they're they're. they kind of legally have to do [ __ ]. >> My mother. Yeah. My mother, too.

>> And that's what I that's where I was. going to go with it, right? Because I. think we probably all agree that just. supporting grown ass adults who won't. work in a pie factory, you know what I. mean, isn't. >> like that's not a good idea. >> But there are people in my life who even. though I would want that for them, they're still in protected space. I got. cousins who if they don't work, I ain't. giving them [ __ ] Mhm. >> But if if my mom were younger and and. and healthy and all of that and still.

said, "Yo, I ain't working. >> You if you got 1.4 billion, I ain't. working.". >> Yeah. >> I would. I would agree with the mom. >> Yeah. I would still give it to your mom. >> Your mother is your mother. Your mother. and your children, I think, are an. exception. >> How about you have siblings though, right? >> I don't know if I would. I don't know. That's why that's why I asked because in. that situation, parents, >> my sisters, my brother, I Yeah. I. wouldn't I would give it to him. Your. sister said, "I'm not working." Your. sister says, "I'm not working ever.

>> I wouldn't require them.". >> Yeah. I'm If I'm at that level, that's a. problem. >> If I'm at that level, if I'm at that. level, I can't I'm not going to. >> It's not so much that it's a pro. You. know what? Cuz we always For me, it's. different because I don't have the. option to retire my my parents. >> Yeah. So for me the next thing in line. would be to retire my sister. >> But Tyler is saying you're hurting them. >> You are. >> I don't think you might be. I don't. think you're enabling them. >> I don't think so. I think that they're. they're people who have worked their. whole life. They know what it is to. work. They bust their ass. >> If I can now give them the rest of their.

life to enjoy and not have to bust their. ass. Why not? Here you go. Oh, that's. interesting. >> You know what I you you could work. I. want you to work, right? Work for me. This is a family business now. I'mma. bring you in. Even if I got to put you. in school for business, the second that. you graduate, you got a job. I want you. to now come over here and work for me. We building a family business. I'm not. going to just have you jet setting. around the world and I'm just footing. that expense because now what happens is. don't appreciate it. They start to. become entitled and they take it for.

granted. So now if I say no, you can't. go to Sanrope next month. >> Now you tight. >> You just went to a visa last month, [ __ ] Now you can't. Or yo, now. I'm paying your car note. I'm paying. your mortgage. I'm paying for your food. I'm paying for all your life expenses. I. think that's crazy as an adult. My. mother and my father is a different. story. Your children are a different. story. I think that any grown person. shouldn't necessarily just be leaning on. somebody else for all of their life. >> So, it's so you make that stipulation to. your cousin, whoever your favorite. cousin is or uncle or whoever,

>> and two months later, >> he ain't living up to it. He ain't going. to school. Just like Tyler Perry's. people, he ain't going to school. He. ain't doing that [ __ ] Now he's about to. be homeless. >> He's in the shelter. He calls you. Yo, I'm in the shelter. I need a place to. stay. What do you do? >> I'm going to get him a studio apartment. >> Okay. So, you're still going to support. him. I'm. >> I'm going to get you a studio apartment. You have to get a job. >> And what if you don't? >> I'm going to get a lot of chances before. I just have. to get to a place where I could look. myself in the mirror once I cut you off. and feel okay about it.

>> I gave you a job and I gave you a car. and I gave you all of these things. >> All the opportunities. I made some phone. calls and had some [ __ ] Even if it. wasn't with me, I I got relationships. Yo, look out for my little homie right. here. Whatever. Camry all that up. >> Gave you an apartment. >> Once I feel like I've I've done Yes. >> I can't say everything because of course. everything would still be to take care. of you. But. >> just underneath that. >> Yeah. At some point you got to you on. your own dog. >> Some people some people. >> like Imani said, some people are.

different. When you watch your family. work for a long time, mothers, cousins, and I mean, when you make it and you. have the means to help them start a new. life, you will want to do that. Yes, you're an enabling them, but you also. want to show them that, hey, yo, we're. family. You can count on me. I want to. help you change your life like how my. life was changed. And that's what a lot. of people do in the world. So, even if. you enabling them, it's it's it's you're. in the middle. >> Flip. If I paid your rent and paid your. car note and bought your groceries for 3.

years, just say 3 years. Uh-huh. >> If if in that 3 years you didn't do. anything to better yourself, you're a. dummy. >> What are we talking about? Like I'm. helping you better your life. Some. people don't look at it like that. Cool. And that's and those are the people that. I have a problem with. >> That those those are the people that I. have a problem with like yo fam you cuz. again what happens if that person passes. away now? >> Yep. And you not in my will. >> completely dependent on that person. You. pass out.

>> Does the 1.4 4 billion play a role for. y'all? Does it affect it? >> Yes, I think it should. >> Yeah, I think yeah, it should because. again, you have enough expendable money. where I could get you an apartment and a. car and do all of these things. But I. again, at the end of the day, I think. that if this is Tyler Perry Studios, you. should want to be like, yo, I want to. help out over here. I want to learn. this. I want to learn that so that I. could better myself. And then now what? I got to take care of your kids, too, >> right? >> And I got to take care of your. grandkids, too. Like, I think all of. that comes into play. >> All right. So, I want to move on just.

cuz there's another story here that I I. want to talk about. There was a dude, he's in it's in Brazil, but I've heard. about this story in the United States, too. This dude is a brick layer. >> in Brazil, >> and he fell in love. >> A lovely. >> He's he traveled 1,200 miles, sold. whatever he had to meet with this woman. Jessica is her name. >> And she promised him a home. She. promised him financial support. So he. traveled all the way over there to be. with really the love of his life.

>> And when you look at him, no, I mean, not to, you know, but you know, >> he deserves love, too. >> He deserves love. And this is who he. fell in love with. >> Let me see. >> Oh, man. That's not funny, dog. >> So, he got there. >> Mhm. >> And he was looking for her and couldn't. find her. He went to a local uh one of. the local news outlets to help find this. woman. >> Sure. And it turns out. she was AI. >> You got to go to the Ethernet to find.

her. computer love. She was. >> artificial intelligence. >> He was sending her money and all that. >> I'm not sure if he was sending her. money, but I know that he was so broke. by the time he got there that he needed. social services back home. >> Yo, I feel you, Money. Free him or. whatever. I feel him. Yo, dude, I've been on the. search for AI that you ain't know was AI. for a minute. You went through every. comment. Where is this hoe? >> Where is the app? >> Yo, the the comments be in another.

language, Arabic. But I know the app. They be like, I got. I go right there. >> High 60. >> Yeah, they be like that. I'd be like, read more. Got more of these. Some of. them AI get you. Yo, they got me last. week. They got me just last week. The. little AI sign language girl on the. Cardi B show. I looked I went to try and. find her. What? >> That little white girl that was doing. that sign language, but she was AI. She. wasn't real sign language. >> The [ __ ] dick sign language [ __ ] it.

off. >> Yeah, she did the W. I've seen that one. >> Yeah. Went to look for her. >> Not real. And let me tell you something. Yo, internet. Ask for part me for a. minute. Yo, that's from the old school. like MySpace and their ability to find. someone topn. Yo, you put them on the internet, I. probably can locate where the fake page. is, the AI page. I'm going I'm going to. get to it. I found the page. It wasn't. DAI. It wasn't D. Them AI [ __ ] are. how you give up your life savings, though. >> You got to be careful out there. Keep. your money.

>> Have y'all ever fallen for the AI. hustle? >> And there's another little There's. another little black girl that they. putting in all the all the little. carnival [ __ ] in the carnival outfits. with the. >> with the light. >> legs and Yeah. Yeah. You know the one. You know the one. That's fine. Little. AI. >> Fine. AI [ __ ] right there. I would I. would AI. I would AI. Yo, if I was AI, oh boy. Trying to make. me a AI. If I was. >> If I was AI, I'd be engaged. >> There you go. That's true. >> You be EA.

>> I ain't the only [ __ ] went looking for. that little dick thing. >> That ain't never happened none of y'all. >> What? >> Y'all never fallen for the AI. >> I've never got no. >> falling for what you mean. >> Not to this extent, but have you ever. even. >> You had a conversation with that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Thinking that they like, "No, not me. I haven't." No. >> Falling for a fake page like somebody. pretended to be somebody else. >> Back in the day, catfish, [ __ ] Catfish. [ __ ]. >> Catfish you on MySpace, [ __ ]. >> What? >> What? That catfish was a big thing. I. saw the real I saw the real one in. Miami, [ __ ] And she like, [ __ ] what?

That's that's a fake page in front of. stacking them. Them [ __ ] was cutting. my ass. Yo, I ain't going to lie. >> Glad that happened TO ME IN MIAMI. I. SAID, "YO, I REMEMBER YOU." SHE SAID, "HUH?" I PULLED up the had the little. Blackberry. She said, "Nigga, no.". >> Yo, y'all out there flip is a good. point. Y'all dudes out there that meet. the fake version of Shorty on Facebook. and send her a couple dollars and. develop like a real pin pal relationship. and fall in love with her. Once you.

realize you got duped, you can't DM the. real girl and say, "Yo, I was talking to. the fake you. GIRL TRYING TO SPARK some. [ __ ]. Heyo. >> Yo, you know we WAS IN LOVE ON FACEBOOK. that be like and. >> let me send you the out of here loser. >> You just got to be careful of me. >> Yeah, that's what you did. >> Never. I was with no I was with St. You. know I do the same I was doing [ __ ]. stag [ __ ] ain't nothing. I know her. I.

went up to her name was Morgan and said. [ __ ] no no that was not me. She caught. a lot of [ __ ] right there on Collins. Now I never forget that [ __ ] roast to. cut my ass. >> You got a lot of deal. >> Huh? You got caught on. >> What do you mean I caught? Why you. laugh? You talking most [ __ ] You got. catfished a lot of times, boy. That. handsome [ __ ] don't mean nothing, boy. >> He don't use the internet though. >> Yeah, that you got caught a lot of. times. You got catfished. >> No, you got them up. Remember me king. >> They never heard of it. I saw all of. planet. They was on threads.

>> White planet. THEY WERE ON THREADS. boy. was ON THAT WHITE MATTO PLANET. >> I saw the comments on Instagram that. co-signed with some of the people. I. went to threads of the that was them. They said we never heard that [ __ ]. Tell that [ __ ] keep banging. I read it. >> So let me ask. >> they said tell that [ __ ] and we his now. you doing it. It's just handsome. >> I'm not even I'm not even going to hang. on. >> I'm saying you want to be his man. You. want to be down with him because you. can't go against dissing him. >> All right. Yeah. He was saying it.

>> I don't know. I don't you [ __ ]. >> [ __ ] you too, [ __ ] What did you say. is. >> I wasn't saying nothing. >> You saying better not say nothing. >> You got it, bro. >> I'm just saying that was some of them. [ __ ] said. >> So the So the threads people got. validity, but the Instagram ones don't. >> No, I saw some of the Instagram ones. that were big you up. Yo, we was I saw I. thought it was fly. >> Yo, do you know how far Black Planet and. Mahente. >> and White Planet how it and White Planet. how much it covered to think that we. don't know who was the [ __ ] on there? >> He might have been a jersey act like he.

said he was a local. >> I was. Yeah, you get you ain't covering. the whole ground of Black Planet in. Mahente. >> That's what he said. >> So them [ __ ] might have been the. [ __ ] over there on. >> He was the in the Jersey. >> We never heard of him. >> Flip, flip, flip. >> Tell the [ __ ] keep banging, [ __ ]. >> All right, that's cool. >> All right, we good. >> No, we did. Everybody got. >> Morgan never heard of you, [ __ ]. >> Everybody got. >> No, >> we did. Everybody got. >> Nobody got. >> Everybody got [ __ ] Then the the new. cat is when the girl was really hurt.

But the last time you seen her, she. ain't have all the lip injections. >> and her nose was crooked, but it was. sexy. Now she got it straight. The. European nose, the Botox, the all of. this going on. >> Yeah, that Have you seen. >> I wasn't showing nobody. >> Have you seen somebody that. >> I like that little fool? >> Have you seen somebody is Have you seen. somebody that even though they had their. little flaws, they still was pretty and. then when they got it, they [ __ ] up. >> All right, that's the end of your. questions. I'm ask is.

>> I'm ask my [ __ ]. >> I don't Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. >> All right, dude. We got to answer. We. got it. >> Yeah. You want to be down so bad? I'm a. victim to you, boy. >> Yo, some I think Yeah. Yeah. Let your. man talk. >> That's what you get hired to do. Let him. talk, [ __ ] Let him save you. >> Yeah. >> You think I need save? >> Obviously. >> You think I need. >> Am I a victim to you? >> No. >> All right. So, act like it. Don't for. me. >> Yo, I did go to see uh You can see. everything. Oh, how was it? >> I did go to see Nathan Fielder,

Elizabeth Holmes, You Can See. Everything, the A24 documentary that is. in theaters right this second. If I'm. remembering right, I think they opened. up to like 16 million opening week and I. want to see. >> Yeah, they're killing it. It's a. documentary. >> This is a documentary, but it's in. theaters, >> which is rare. >> Okay. got a 99 on Rotten Tomatoes if. that if that means anything to anybody. for sure. >> Wait, the critics or the other the the. people? >> Yeah. Is it the popcorn or the or the.

>> the tomato? Any anywhere? That's that's. important. >> Anywhere where you can review this. thing. They're saying that this is one. of the greatest flicks of the year that. you can go see. So, I did go to see. It's a long flick. >> Okay. >> It's a three-hour flick. >> Oh, okay. >> And I made the mistake of going to see. it at 9:30 cuz that was the only one. available. All the rest were sold out. Uh, so I'm here with like a half review cuz. I didn't see the whole thing cuz you. know I fell asleep. You know I fell. asleep. But that first hour it was. really good. It was really good. Mainly.

to me just because every time it seemed. like Nathan Fielder was about to get. somewhere with Elizabeth Holmes, the. hating ass new boyfriend would pop in. and pull her away somewhere. >> Hey, she got to go put the baby to. sleep. Hey, uh, we got to take her to go. uh get some dog food. We got to go to. the supermarket. We got to go shopping. We got to So the first hour was all of. that and it was just hilarious. Like I. was in that theater dying laughing and I. wasn't alone. Like it was supposed to be. a serious movie. But these two people, her and her husband really do look like.

cuckoo. And that's really what the movie is. about. Just them looking like cuckoo, not. really knowing that they looking like. cuckoo. And Nathan Fielder is the man if. you going to stand in front of him and. be a cuckoo. >> Do you think they did it on purpose? >> No. >> Cuz they was being documented. >> No. I think they have No. No. No. No. No. Cuz it was the small details like an. hour one without giving the movie away. Like she was scrambling some eggs. So. she was beating them in a bowl and he.

said, "Baby, let me get that for you.". And he grabbed it and started beating. And Nathan Fielder zoomed in. And these. beat eggs like cuckoo. They're like. The way Nathan Fielder shot this, cuz it. was a lot of close-ups and a lot of all. of that. Every single thing that they. did made them look cuckoo. And here's. the headbanger pause. So, I fall asleep. By the time I wake up, they got the girl. that played her in the inventor story.

sitting there. Amanda Seafruit, >> whatever her name is, she's sitting. there talking and I don't know what she. talking about, but I woke up like, "Hey, how the did we get to fake Elizabeth up. here?" So, they was killing it. End of. the movie. Round of applause from. everybody in there. I have to go back. and see it again. I'll just walk in an. hour late. >> But how long were you asleep? >> [ __ ]. >> You saying was 3 hours. You saw the. first hour. >> Saw the first hour. Nap for the next. hour and 15 maybe 30. Woke up for the.

last 30 of it. Yo, >> good sleep though. >> But it was a good sleep. But but don't. my sleep should not take away from the. movie. I had a long day that day. But. that movie, if you have time, you should. go check it out if you're in the docks. If you're not in the docs, >> I might wait for that. I want to see the. new. >> Oh, I definitely want to see the new. >> Your mother. Your mother. Your mother. Your mother. Yeah. >> Also, uh I turned on that Crystal Lake. >> Oh god. >> I watched about 10 minutes. Go ahead. I.

turned on that Crystal Lake. Wow. Yo, >> this [ __ ] look like some bull. >> It ain't. >> It ain't. >> It ain't. >> You like it? >> Yeah, I like it. Why wouldn't I like it? >> Okay, I'm sorry. >> But here's where it gets a little funny. and tricky. >> They've humanized Jason Vort. >> Yeah. >> Even in the even in the real ones, they. humanized him. >> I never felt that way. >> Yeah, bro. He got thrown in the water. They, you know, suddenly they really. turned him into what he was. He wasn't. that. If you watch all of the original,

not these when he started taking. Manhattan and all his mom was the. killer. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like kicking the radio. >> Yeah. Like. >> when you start looking at the original. ones, Yeah. he got tormented as a kid. I. think they tried to drown him and all. that other turned him into what he was. >> Okay. But in Crystal Lake, which is. really a story about the mom. >> Yeah. >> And how the mom was Queen Vaughn. >> cuz she's the original killer. >> The mom. The mom was spinning on queen. >> The mom was spinning on cuz I was like,

"Yo, why the do I care about what Jason. mom was doing?" Boy, was I wrong. >> Oh, you didn't. >> Boy, boy was I wrong. >> Did they tell that in the first movie? >> In the first movie. Yeah, the first. movie tells you that. >> Awesome. Here's a whole series of her. killing people. >> He had kid. >> This is fire. But Jason Vor is like he. was a kid with like dreams and friends. and they was picking on him and he was. playing with the toys. [ __ ] mom a sword. And it's like, "Oh, look at this kid.". And then he goes to the camp, they start. laughing at him cuz his deformed head.

Look at his head. And he's sitting there. all sad. He liked the girl and the girl. was trying to like, "Yo, Jason, kill. these." Yo, >> you had to root for Jason after you. watch episode one of their way. Y'all. playing with this deformed head. >> Kill them. Kill them. So yes, I'm only. on episode like three. >> Well, I. >> But is he? >> I have been missing some SPOOKY SEASON. >> AND CARRIE. I finished Carrie and. Carrie. >> Is that good? >> Carrie is good. I liked it. >> Carrie and Crystal Lake during. Halloween. >> Now it's time. Yeah, I've been I've been.

looking for. >> No, it's good. >> They went deeper into the Carrie story. They they gave more context to how she. had the telekinesis and all that other. X-Men now. >> X-Men type and there's other people with. it. Like it's it's it's dope how they. did it. I I think the the prom scene and. how they reinvented that comparison to. the movie. >> went a little extra step up like it was. dope and the actress was really good. >> Spend watching bum ass scar ped. It's. not bum. It's just kind of Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of. >> Yeah. I didn't. >> but I had to finish it. >> I didn't even finish scar scar. I didn't.

finish it. >> They lost me towards the end. >> You said you watched it. >> What? >> Carrie. >> Crystal. I watched it. I cut it off. But. I saw like when when cuz he was a little. boy. Yeah. You know what I mean? He was. a kid. He was a fun loving little kid. that was running around. And I see how. they turned him into what he was. He had. a facial um deformity and you know. little kids are mean. >> Yeah. >> You get what you get, [ __ ]. >> Leave [ __ ] alone. That's a way. to sum it up. I guess that's what.

happened. No, I cut it off though. >> Cuz he was just killing that. Yeah. >> Yeah. So yeah, I get it. >> Anyway, shout Jason Boyhey's. Shout out. Jason Boy, my [ __ ]. >> Yes. Shout out Jason Boy. That was. [ __ ] up. >> Look how you take the story and turn a. [ __ ] to a hero. [ __ ] was a villain for. all these years. He He could All right, you kill all. Crystal Lake. Get back. >> He went to Manhattan and beat up the the. boxer [ __ ]. >> He ain't do nothing to you. >> Yes, he did. Punch him in the face 40. times.

>> spinning. >> on a drill. >> You can't drill. >> You can't just drilling on random. >> No, I'm Pause. I paused it. Black. punching [ __ ] in the face 47 times. >> He said, "Take your best shot. Got to. kill him.". >> All right. What else is up there that's. important? What else is up there that's. important? >> Tory Lane is suing the jail because it's. a jail. >> Nah. >> Got stabbed up, man. >> Hard on my. >> He got stabbed 14 times. >> in jail.

>> Two collapsed lungs. >> in jail. >> And he's saying that the warden. >> put him in jail. He's sued for he's sued. for $100 million because he's saying. that he shouldn't have even been in the. same unit as the guy who stabbed him. because they knew that he and the guy. had problems. >> Like he should have been in a separate. jail. >> A separate unit. He was saying that the. guy was a uh a violent uh was it violent. offender or some. >> saying getting stabbed up just come with. being in jail. Joe, >> a [ __ ] can't sue after that. He just. got to accept. >> I mean, clearly can't. In America, you. can sue over everything.

>> Yeah, >> you can sue over any and everything. So, yes, I support him suing. He should be. able to sue, but when I read it, I was a. little confused. >> If you're a juror, you're not you're not. you're not. >> not at all. When I was growing up, what. he's suing for was part of the reason. you didn't want to get there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Maybe things have changed some somehow. now. >> I I watched Oz. >> Yeah. >> The beast and them [ __ ] Yeah. >> Do more than stab. >> You go to jail. You may get stabbed. You. may get, you know what I mean? Them. [ __ ] put the little Gillette blade on.

that end of the toothbrush. It can. happen to you out there. Yeah, I I. disagree. >> Yeah, you can't. >> I disagree 100%. I think. >> You disagree or what? That it could. happen to you in jail? >> That he can't. If I were in your position, if we were. in the same jury, we'd be arguing in the. back room about whether he should get. the money or not. >> You think he should? >> Absolutely. >> Hell yeah. He's under their super. supervision. >> Yeah. Like I in jail? >> Yeah. >> Yes. Jail, prison, whatever. I for. >> So So everybody that gets assaulted in. jail should be allowed to sue. No, I.

think if it's foreseeable, >> and remember his argument isn't I'm you. owe me money because I got stabbed in. prison. You knew that. >> it's because you put me in a unit where. I was there was a high likelihood that I. would be harmed and you and you allowed. it to happen anyway and you were. indifferent to it. >> Let me ask a question. >> And and this is that rap rapper machismo. [ __ ] that comes along with being a. rapper. Don't you also have the option. of not being in there and being in like. the PC famous unit.

>> protective custody. >> whatever you call it. I don't know the. you probably do. I have to read the. brief to know if he has to be in there. cuz you could ask certain times they'll. want to put you in there and certain. [ __ ] say no I don't want to go in. there. >> That's true. And I don't know if that's. >> I don't know if that's the h what. happened but. >> but but but as a structural issue. everybody can't be in PC cuz if. everybody's in PC then name PC. So at. some point the prison has to be able to. protect people who are in general. population if there's a foreseeable. issue. I agree with you that you can't. always see everything that's going to. happen. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? But and this is.

somebody who doesn't care for Tory Lane. and it's kind of cool that we're on the. opposite side of this issue. >> I whenever I think of Tory Lane's. guilty, innocent, whatever, I don't care. whether you did it or not. If you're in. prison, you have a right to dignity. You. have a right to safety. And and. unfortunately in this country a lot of. times we act like once you're in prison. you whatever happens to you happened to. you cuz you got you got yourself there. so you're like disposable. We did that. with COVID. We do we make jokes about in. prison. We make, you know, I mean, don't. drop the soap, you know, like, you know, when people um talk about uh bad food.

conditions back when people were suing. in the '90s for like fixing, you know, for like not having proper food, someone. want a salad bar, you know, they made. jokes of it. Then they made like the. prison litigation reform act to to make. sure that prisoners couldn't sue. And I. >> that's why I asked the question of is it. anybody? Do you think it's anybody that. gets assaulted or is it because he's. lane's getting assaulted? No, cuz if. it's foreseeable, if I get locked up. tomorrow. >> and you get locked up tomorrow, you. know, illegal parking, whatever, right? We in there.

>> I'm And a mean It ain't no mean you got. an issue. And a don't mean you got an. issue. And I'm like, "Yo, this [ __ ] Ice. been trying to stab me for years." You. know what I mean? Only thing separating. him is is, right? And now we in the same. cell and then you stab me. >> Is that how that went? >> I don't I don't. >> His argument in his lawsuit is that this. was a foreseeable problem. They knew me. and this dude had an issue. I'm agreeing. with it being foreseeable cuz you're in. jail. >> Yeah, he probably it should say this off. camera. You mind if I repeat what you. just said? >> It it said he's going to lose. I agree.

They make it real hard for prisoners to. sue. I'm just saying. >> It's not even that. It sets a precedent. for anybody to get stabbed in the jail. >> That's what I was to now sue every. penitentiary in the country. >> And then they have to stop people from. getting stabbed. They have to take. measures to stop people from getting. stabbed. >> We're not going to stop people from. getting stabbed. >> I know. I'm saying it's [ __ ] up. I. agree he's going to lose the case. I'm. saying he shouldn't lose the case. >> if what he's saying is true. >> All right. So, let me ask you, right? And again, I'm not pro jail. >> So, now you're going to set a precedent. that every time somebody get punched in.

the face, they get sued for assault. >> No, I'm not saying that. Again, >> the foreseeability part of it is what. I'm talking about. Violence is going to. happen anywhere where you got a bunch of. people, especially if you got a bunch of. people who are prone to violence. I'm. saying if it was known that me and you. got the beef and you put us in the same. section, that's a different issue. >> It's not that he had beef with the dude. His claim is that the prison officials. knew the dude was dangerous. >> and you shouldn't have been near me. They didn't have beef. And then he's. also saying his celebrity status made.

him a target. That's possible. >> Sorry, buddy. >> So the so those it's it's he was stabbed. 16 approximately 16 times. Um, he claims. that they knew the attacker, the prison. knew the attacker was dangerous. >> He alleges guards failed to intervene. quickly enough. And he says his. celebrity status made him a target. >> And I think all true. >> I. you going to be a target, my [ __ ]. >> I still I would still. >> I don't think you get cuz. >> I'm not on I I just don't think that's.

enough to suit him. >> If that's the case, Puff got a case. >> Yes. And anybody that is wealthy or. anybody that is a high-profile figure. has a case now. >> Yes. Also, if that's just their. sources say that, not my sources, what. I'm reading says that he did have that. there was some issue with him and the. guy, but let's assume that's wrong. And. let's assume that you're correct, right? And that he and the dude didn't have an. issue. But he's saying you this was his. point is still this is foreseeable, right? >> I'm high status. >> I'm visible and this dude is.

>> dude serving life and dangerous. >> Yeah. And this same thing we see with. with with assaults and sexual assaults. in prison. Same exact thing, right? Certain people, certain populations, queer folk, trans folk, they're like, "If you put me in this unit, this. there's a high likelihood this going to. happen." I think we should do that. I. think we should be charging prisons to. protect the people inside of them. And I. think if it was any other, if it was a. hospital, if it was a school, nobody. would be bugging out about saying we. need to protect these people, but. somehow because they committed a crime, we act like now it's okay to kill them.

or it's okay to stab them or it's okay. to assault them. You know what I'm. saying? We can't. The rules shouldn't. change because I committed a crime. because otherwise I'm getting tor that's. another punishment that I didn't get. char I didn't get convicted. I got. >> it's hard. >> Yeah. The rules change when you commit a. crime. >> But they're not supposed to. >> You can't go get a juicy juice from the. fridge. >> Yeah. But see, everything changes. >> Not not just that. If you if you. if you murdered four people, right? >> Mhm. >> Societyy's not going to feel about you. the same way they feel about somebody in. a hospital. And if you are thinking that.

you should have the same exact um. sympathy or empathy for you that. somebody that is has cancer, you are. sadly but but no, no, no, but that's. changing the argument. I'm not saying. you should have the same sympathy. I'm. saying I should have the same safety. You don't have to give a about me, but. you still have to protect me. The kid. with cancer, obviously I have more. sympathy to than than the the serial. killer, >> but neither of us should get assaulted. in prison. Now, if this thing said Now, if this thing said if this thing solely.

said prison guards didn't break this up. soon enough, so therefore I was stabbed. even more than I should have got. stabbed, then. >> they're not going to break it up fast. >> Then, then cool. >> Cuz the prison guards, >> he doesn't say that. >> No, but the prison guard is not going to. put themselves a hazard cuz the [ __ ] is. swinging a knife. >> No, no. What? But what he said is the. prison guards weren't around like they. should have been. They basically post. >> Yeah. So, basically y'all got a bunch of. violent people. You got somebody who's. vulnerable and y'all don't watch. Y'all. up there playing PlayStation or some. [ __ ]. >> right? >> That's what had that's how Jason That's.

how Jason drowned. >> Bro, I hate to tell you that's most. prisons in the country. If you got if. you got let's say you got 150 dudes on. one. >> lifeguard went to get some dick. >> Mhm. And then the mom had to run in. there and try to get. >> and now the kids are unattended. So I. mean it's the same. >> You got 150 prisoners on the pod. You. might have two cos. >> Yeah. >> That's not adequate. >> That's a problem. >> That's the problem. So, so what are you. supposed to have more enough cos so. nobody get stabbed? >> It's impossible. The same way we look at. schools the same way.

>> Why is it possible to not hire 10 more. cos? >> The same way we look at schools like how. many kids to a class? How many teachers. to a classroom? >> Why can't you just hire more? >> I'm going to answer you. Yeah, >> I don't have a problem. 12 people not. going to stop. You said 10. So 12 cos is. not going to stop 150 people that want. to do something to somebody from doing. it. >> I'm not saying you a perfect situation, but we know that two got two is. impossible. I'm not disagreeing but 10 isn't. >> if you're doing or whatever the number. is. I'm saying let's come up with it.

But my overall point I'll just say for. the last time is for me the problem is. we don't even try to protect prisoners. because we feel like you whatever you're. not worthy of it. It's like society. trash type of that's unconstitutional. >> I agree with that. >> I mean you get in there making albums in. front of people face. in there laying vocals. Yeah, that's a. bad place to be looking like you about. to succeed soon. >> Show you the tour. I'm not there to book.

everybody's show. That's like, yo, dog. How much you want to do in front of. prisoner? >> You right. >> And I don't condone Tory Lane being. stabbed at all. I'm glad he's all right. I'm glad he's well. And I wish him good. luck in this case. But. >> jail. >> up jealousy is jail. >> And that's what Mark is saying. That's. the problem us even thinking that. >> Yeah. And and because I think I work. with a lot of people in death row and. have.

>> me too tough row and. >> right. >> see that that thinking for me keeps me. out of jail. >> Same. It's not I don't look at it as. bad. >> Death row. You saying. >> no. >> no jail. >> [ __ ] that could happen in there. >> means eh you know I don't want to do. that. I don't want to go there. But from. the baloney to the dinner options, >> it's it's other that didn't do nothing. that end up in there. >> to the pay the pay ain't. >> the pay. >> Yeah, that ain't the 10 cent per day. >> I ain't I don't drive with nothing to go.

on in jail. You see, normally the people. I was avoiding, that's who I see. >> They right there. Oh, I got myself in. here. I got myself right here. So people. good. I'm sorry. Wait up. Got to. reiterate what I said. >> Then come up to you. Yo, what gang you. in? Yo, I'm not in no game. I'm. Switzerland. >> You in a gang now? >> Now you in a gang. >> Let's ask you that again. >> Or if you in a gang now when the other. gang approach you, you have to still rep.

your gang. Like nothing about jail rules. is an incentive for me. >> Yeah. >> Nothing sounds fun, but but. >> I like waking up in the morning and. going to a curig. >> But it's making a little coffee. Did you. say curig? Yeah. I will [ __ ] you up if. you still drinking out of a curig. And. you got 30 days. But if that me and. parks got you. >> Oh. Oh yeah. We just talked about that. >> We did. We did. >> It's in a box. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> It's in a box cuz man construction done. >> Okay.

>> It'll be open. It'll be open. >> Trust me, I'm not letting y'all go half. on the gift for it to stay in a box. >> It ain't the money of it. I actually. value your experience. >> No, I'm saying y'all two coming. together. I'm not just going to take. that for granted. I'm going to open it. It's a good gift. I'm I am going to use. >> So, you didn't open it cuz you got. construction going on. >> No construction. >> I get that. You. >> You don't want dust in your espresso. That's true. >> I'm telling you something. It's not my. fault you don't believe anything I say. That's what Yes. >> Actually, he never y'all have a daily. argument about that. >> Then why why you was always asking me if. the [ __ ] was good?

>> Yig. down with it, [ __ ]. >> If you don't believe somebody, why would. you even. >> crazy? Uh, what else? What else? Hold. on. Freeze. Freeze. >> What's up, bro? >> Got a question for you. All right. >> I do. I do. Earlier we were talking. about off camera um about battle rappers. in Uproar. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I just saw the screenshot that Easy to. Block Captain posted where he accused. Surf of I guess wanting help with his.

round against Cortez or whatever. Um and. I just saw it while I was up here. >> What What is your opinion on it? I've. really Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Easy. and Surf kind of been going back and. forth. >> Um and then Easy went on to say he. helped write some of the rounds. >> Yeah. >> And Surf did a space and was like, "Yo, you were Gun Titles and that's what we. do. Like we come together and we you was. with all of us. We help each other out.". >> So I a lot of people.

like took that as Wait a minute. What? It's almost like Santa Claus not real. >> I feel like I've seen that a lot. to. Rome Street's got some [ __ ]. >> Yeah, that's what happened. Once that. happened, people started chiming in. because to a lot of people, battle rap. was the last place where. >> No, >> it was just you and your pen. Like like. you you can't get helping. I mean, again, this is a outsider view. >> Yeah. >> You better not better not be writing. your rounds or writing or like No, you. all you got is your pen in battle rap.

>> So when he said that you you roam. streets and I I saw a lot of people just. chiming in like wait what? So, if you. say a line and I say, "Yo, dog." Then, you could have said this and it might. have hit harder. >> Pause. Like, that's a bad thing. >> Again, to pull pour it outside, I I've. never written a battle rap, but that's. what you hang your your pin on. It's. It's like I these are my bars. These are. my lines. >> I'm pretty sure that I heard Moo and and. Rex and Lux talk about, you know,

growing up together and. >> um sparring with each other and helping. each other become better and better. It's not uncommon that battle rap clicks. or people who hang out with each other. help and trade lines together. That's. not that's not uncommon. I don't. understand. I don't understand what. these people are saying today. That's. not uncommon. >> Because in And. >> cuz how do you think How do you think. that back in the days when they came and. they and they regurgitated their verse, the person that was next to them, they. knew the whole verse as well cuz they. practiced with each other. They heard. it, but they also practiced with each. other.

>> Hearing your verse and me help and us. coming up with the verse together are. two different things. You're battling. Joe. Yeah, right now I am. >> you battling you battling Joe, but you. Mark Ish and I sit around and together. collectively come up with your verse for. Joe. >> Oh, we got. >> that's different. That's how people are. taking that statement. >> because again. >> I got it. >> When when Easy made his statement, it. wasn't he like he said, "Yo, I helped. you write your verse." And surf.

basically confirmed, "Yo, yo, you that's. what we do. We help each other write our. verses." M that word help that word help. a lot is doing a lot of work in that. sentence. I need to know what help mean. >> and that's how people are taking it. because again we're talking about battle. rap which is like that last thing. I. think that. >> you can give a [ __ ] a line or two. You. can give a [ __ ]. >> I agree. >> That's crazy. >> But I also understand why people. >> I I see why people would would look at. this a certain way. When you was by on. hollow, you was working on surfing them. and y.

>> no. >> like nothing. >> No. >> Okay. I just want you. >> I didn't say that. I didn't. >> But how you said it sounding. >> we. >> cuz I remember y'all was all right. >> We were we were we were together. He was. more like coaching. But that's not that's different from. what you're saying is all I'm saying. He. was he was doing like a coaching thing. He was. >> on the performance side. >> Yeah. He was trying to help with the.

performance aspect and how to deliver. certain lines, not with any of the. actual lines. >> or the writing, but again, I wasn't in. part of a writing camp or battle rap. crew. this all this battle rap [ __ ] that. is talking about out there for me was a. non-starter because anybody in a crew. you would think you're doing that. they're doing that if you're in a crew I. heard Cortez pop out and say I never did. that I don't know Cortez that have ever. been in a rap crew I heard Hollow pop.

out and say yo I never did that. >> Cortez was mathing number four. >> you couldn't bar no line for math. >> why not oh you that's not true. >> different styles different style which. is also I. >> like easy might be doing some misleading. [ __ ] Maybe you I'm sure you did help. when you was in the crew, but. stylistically they don't sound nothing. alike, think nothing alike, deliver. nothing alike. So what what was the what. was the help? What was the help? We was. in Slaughterhouse. Nobody helped write. nobody's rhymes.

>> But if you thought somebody said. something that could be delivered. differently or said differently, you. would help. Like I don't I don't. >> Yeah. Like I like again I think people. are just hearing this and amidst all of. the talk especially again going back to. battle rap this almost people are. interpreting this as damn near ghost. riding. >> and it it that could be the furthest. thing from. >> they trying to discredit my son cuz he. just came home. >> I don't think it's just I don't think. it's a surf thing. >> They wait they waiting they waiting to.

see my boy slip up. >> They but they wanted to stay true to the. art form Joe you know where battle rap. come from. The art form is you you know. you write your own rhymes. I guess. that's what they're saying. But I've. I've also heard a lot of the old school. battle rappers from back in the days. have friends and spar with their friends. and they yo, all right, you said it like. this. Oh, hey, put this line here. And. [ __ ] ain't had an issue with it. I. guess it's taboo to some of these new I. don't know. >> Well, speaking of people that write. their own rhymes, we got brand new Kid Rock featuring.

Eminem. Airord. No, don't. That says that means something means. something. >> This is off that Kid Rock Christian. album and we only playing it cuz we I. didn't think that Eminem was going to be. on here. There was a lot of talk about. who would be appearing. >> Here we go. Let's go. >> All right. Shut the Kid Rock. >> Oh, you want to skip to the Eminem?

>> Yeah. I I didn't play this to hear Kid. Rock. Let's see. Sorry. Sorry, kid. Verse two. >> I would say he tried, but I don't think. that he did. I don't think he wanted to. do that verse one bit. >> No. >> Oh man. >> Thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts. New Kid Rock featuring Eminem off that. new Cro Kid Rock Christian album. That. record is called Heal My Faith. >> Heal my ears. Three faith. >> I smoked a little doobie on Friday and. pressed play on that one. And I was I. was.

>> I was sober after that one. >> I mean, M could wrap his ass off, >> of course. Um, that's thought number. one. Thought number two, that song is. ass. >> That's all his ass. >> That's that that verse made you That. verse gave you thought number one. >> Yep. >> Yeah, he can like he can rap. Like he's. he's highly skilled. >> Yeah, we know that. >> I'm letting y'all do the jokes first. But. >> no, the mother I mean even when on this. I don't like the song rap. I mean. >> he tried. He tried. He tried that beat. wasn't giving him nothing to work with. He tried to pull a couple say you can't. make chicken salad out of. >> He was just he was just.

uh saying how good of a friend Kid Rock. is. And he tried, man. He tried sort of. >> But you can't make chicken salad out of. chicken. So you end up with the best. He. did the best he could. >> I GOT THIS ALREADY. >> But but the third thing for me real. quick and I'm going move out of it is. just I also don't respect the choice. >> You know what I mean? >> See, then that's where it becomes. tainted. Then. >> it's not tainted. I'm. >> It becomes tainted. Are you listening to. what he's saying? >> I'm saying the beat's not great and the. the the story he's telling. I get it, but it's not that interesting. But he's.

such a skilled rapper that it's. compelling cuz I wanted to listen to for. me I was more listen to him technically. than you know I mean anything else but. >> actually saying you saying you didn't. listen to the tech. >> I should say I was more compelled by the. technical part of it. Um. >> I was wondering where he was going with. it and he didn't really go anywhere. anyway. It was just a long ass story. about how they cool and I mean whatever. But like I'm like don't do this no more. man. And that whole line about you know. that's my brother. We're not political. enemies the. >> that's the one I can't respect that. right there. >> That's the bar that's the bar right. there. that that bar that idea. That's.

the bar. >> That [ __ ] is not good. Not good music. That was not good. >> Yeah. If you do a song, >> say it. It's all right. >> You gave us classics. >> I said the song WAS ASS. >> AND EMINEM STILL MAKES GOOD MUSIC. This. is just not it. This is just ass. >> We said that. >> All right. >> I started with this song is ass. >> All right. My man. >> My man. >> You got something to say, my G? >> I'm waiting all go. >> [ __ ] quiet. >> Okay. The song is horrible. >> Okay. >> Okay. song is absolutely horrible.

>> cuz Kid Rock. Yeah, >> it's a Kid Rock song. Whoever's doing. the hook is trash. >> Kid Rock, I think. >> Yeah, the Kid Rock's verse is trash. All. of this is trash. It's horrible. I'm. also with Mark. I don't know if I love. the choice. >> Yeah, he didn't have to do this. >> I don't love the choice. You didn't have. to rap with Kid Rock. You could have let. that [ __ ] go head on about his. business. Had to stand by his but. >> I understand the I understand the. sentiment. I just don't think it was. good. Yeah, >> that's like the sentiment is a good.

idea. >> Outside of the song being trash and. horrible and it being kid rock and not. agreeing with the decision, I thought he absolutely smoked that. verse. >> Mhm. >> I thought that verse was great. I. thought Yes. Yes. >> Kid rock verse was so bad on it that I. was anticipating hearing what the M was. about to do to it. But if you with M, this is a 200. That's his flow. That's. >> beat. If you put a better hook on there. and let a hip-hop producer do the drums,

>> that's his beat and hook. Put Skyler Gay. on there. >> But. >> and rap better on there. >> But see, I thought he wrapped well. >> I thought he smoked that verse in terms. of rapping ability. >> Yeah. >> Like saying. >> cuz anybody's going to say, "Yo, why the. Well, most people would say, well, I. would say why the did he choose to do. this song?" Right. So hearing him take. the approach of trying to explain not. only why he did the song but how Kid. Rock helped him out early in his career,

how they met here, but then they ended. up over here and just happened to be in. the studio yada. He told a few different. stories in it and to keep going with. that ultimately Gio, all of that. >> Another great storyeller. >> as a rapper. >> Another great story teller. >> Yeah, facts. >> Yeah, he is. And he told one here and if. I'm only judging Eminem as an MC, I. thought he did better than anybody else. can do on that. >> that he they gave him nothing to work. with. >> Yeah, it's just. >> that's what I started with. They gave. him absolutely nothing to work with. >> The idea was nothing to work with.

>> I didn't like his flow. As a rapper, I. like his flow. I just didn't like the. >> I didn't like the No, as a rapper, he. >> ate Yo, I'm talking I wanted to kill him. too. I wanted to kill him too. Especially kid. I hate the decision. I. want to come in here and kick this in. the back. Park told me how horrible it. was days ago. But I put it on expecting. to hear like the worst of the worst. >> And then when he came in, I was like, >> "That's your first time listening to. it?". >> This morning? I heard I heard it this. morning. >> This was my first time right now live. hearing it. >> I heard it this morning while my barber. was cutting me. He was like, "What the. [ __ ] you got on?" But then Eminem kept. he he he smoking. It's tough to do that.

he does. >> It is. It's very very very very hard to. do that. There's only a handful of. people that could do that and stay like. in that same pocket in the. >> No, not the pockets. just that just but. lyrically because that's that's. >> to keep that. >> syllable flow. >> on on beat like a metronome like he's. just. >> he's unbelievable even when the song is. the worst it could possibly be. like I hate I hated uh M with Kendrick.

>> like that he did on that record. >> that was that was a bad record. >> it was like yo yo let me close my love. >> that song was so bad. >> no love game or something. She had like a grease in the back. >> But I also I also don't love rap god M. I don't love but it's a skill to it. But. I love rap god m but m when he is saying. something and not just showing you that. he can rhyme every syllable in the. galaxy when he's saying something. I.

don't think [ __ ] that white boy. >> I agree with that. I'm with you there. I'm with you there. [ __ ] That last. project um music to be murdered by. I. like that when that was the last one. The last one was Slim. >> He has he dro He dropped. Oh, that's. right. That's right. That's right. I. hated that. >> Return of Slim Shady. Some that last. >> music to be murdered by. I'm going to. that album. >> That album was also good. >> That album was vintage. M. I came in. there. I said it. Was it. >> The death of some [ __ ] That was. >> I like that one. >> His lyrical Miracle Bag is is, >> you know, it's it's it's a lot. So.

sometimes it can feel like you just. didn't. But he's saying some every time. he do it to continuously do it the way. he does it. That's that's. >> And he's doing it with intention. >> Yeah. So I. >> as a rapper I'm in awe of. >> people that can make a word rhyme with. another word that don't rhyme with the. word. Yeah. >> It's very very very. >> from that whole ultimately part on it's. like yo where you even getting this from. he's a syllable king.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> that's fair. >> He does great syllable king. >> Sober. Did you check out the Wayne joint. too? >> No. >> Want to hear it? >> Sure. >> Okay. I thought Wayne actually did. pretty good. Also very bad song. >> He did a lot more. >> All right, let's go Wayne. Also dog to. work with. >> again. If you got to do a song with Kid. Rock, that's how you got to step though. >> Yeah. >> Like. >> them [ __ ] smoke them [ __ ] Yo, >> after that Wayne versus I was bad. >> Yeah, that Wayne beat was a lot better.

Uh there was more to work with in terms. of like melody like the Mit was like. super like. >> Yeah. >> But did he do that? >> Who. >> him? >> I don't think he did the beat. >> I'm not talking the way he did the. verse. >> The way his flow was. He intentionally. did that. >> But the beat was so rigid that it's hard. to [ __ ] find a pocket. This at least. has some [ __ ] moving around in it that. you could get funky with it. And I think. M could have gotten funkier. >> I think he could have too. >> It was hard. >> I challenge all y'all to go in there.

I ain't got to be able to rap over it to. call it ass. >> We don't got to do the ass. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Don't change. >> You challenge all of us. You challenge. all You just changed what I said. You. can call anything ass. But to say I. think he could could have got funkier on. it. >> That beat was very one two. >> Yeah. >> I'm just going by the I've heard him do. it abstract beat. You got to judge it to. the beat and melodic melodically it's. not offering enough for you to get. >> the beat wasn't abstract is what my. point is, >> man. Wayne. Wayne words.

>> I like Wayne on that for sure. But. >> is this is this a Christian rap album? >> I heard I heard two verses on this. album. Now I'm really not with it cuz. you trying to steal Kanye swag, man. Kanye did this already. Out of here, Krock. >> I mean, a lot of people. I'm just saying out of here for this. project. I don't Kid Rock any. >> existing everything about Kid Rock. >> Correct. I'm just saying getting [ __ ]. on here, having them rap in uh God,

>> don't features could have kept them to. themselves though. >> I mean, I'll never hear them again. >> Never. >> I'll never hear him again. Heard it the. one time, but I mean, >> you know, y'all [ __ ]. >> if I'm a rapper, I'm not doing it. I. just I'm not doing it. >> You want to hear the uh. >> Everybody ain't meant to be a rapper. Everybody ain't meant to be a rapper, but I do think if everybody wrote a. verse, >> they would have a different respect for. rappers.

>> I agree. >> That's all I'd be trying to say. >> I'm not trying to say, "Oh, you can't do. it." Everybody can't do it. But to try. to do it to some of this, >> it's tough. Yo, man. [ __ ] send you. with a hook on it. >> Yo, need you on this big bro. >> Bro, I'm just. >> 24 bars empty. >> I'm just speaking on Yo, it's a. nightmare. Yo, IT IS A NIGHTMARE. SOMEBODY WHO YOU GOT TO GIVE THE VERSE. SO, I'M NOT SAYING I don't know about. Kroger, but I'm talking. Yo, Big Bro, need you on this. >> It'll help the country. >> I left 40. I left 40 blank at the end.

and my verse is there already. Get. inspired. >> I think it'll be dope cuz like I'm a. Republican and you're not. >> Never mind just doing it to a song. Just. try to write. Period. >> It's tough. Yo, >> just try to write. >> It's tough. It's tough. That's all I. got. Eminem smoke that. I I wanted to. kill him. I heard the new uh Drake demo. for the. >> I heard the demo. >> Yeah, I think the same as the song. >> Same song. Yeah. >> That's not the Drake demo.

Just. >> remind. it was immaculate. >> That time it was absolutely immaculate. Uh yeah, this is uh. That hook is hard. >> Yeah, it's tricky. >> So, I think what is the tricky So, the. dude's name is uh Caleb. I forgot what. his government name. I actually met him. before. He worked on Beyonce records.

Like, he's not he's not nobody. He's a. producer and songwriter. >> He alleges that he worked with the song. the producers of the Drake record that. came out. >> Okay. >> And they took and put it out. >> He sent it to them a couple months. before or like a a half. >> He didn't give any credit. He saying. >> he didn't give any credit. Oh, he didn't. get no credit for this. Okay. Okay. I. thought we were just trying to say like. no. They still having the conversations. about, oh, he not right. It's like a. hook. It's a hook, my [ __ ] Like. >> Hersfield. >> Caleb producersfield.

is the gentleman's full name. >> Yeah. No, that's still Yeah. Pay that. man. >> It seems like it seems like something. got lost in the sauce with the producers. probably took it and redemoed it and it. seems like there's probably. misunderstanding. Although the Drake. side is saying, "We don't know this. dude. >> This is all untrue.". >> Uh, I think that he wrote that. >> Cash Me Out. and Me and And clearly this is one of. the more, if not the most popular song. on that project.

>> That is It is. >> I need my credit and I need my I need my. bread. >> Exactly. Why I'm not crediting you? >> So you going to just. >> I'm talking about if I'm him. >> Why though? Cuz I'm me. >> Yo, I don't hold no more stock no more. >> No, not just that whole stock. >> The other other reports you hear, they. be saying like the is mad. >> giving or or accommodating to artists. So to hear that is. >> Yeah, it's weird. Again, I feel like.

it's probably a lost in translation. thing. You work with the producers, the. producers, dude. Come on. >> Yeah. Well, I mean that's a lawyer's got. to do that. Now, my only problem is did. you go through other means to try to. reach out to Rectifiers first before. releasing the demo? Cuz I'm going to. keep it a buck. If you do the whole. this, I might be on your type of timing. on something. >> Like, I don't know what's going on. I. got the record. >> Go to court. >> I got the record through some other. means. Producer sent it. They didn't let. me know that you did it. If that's. possible, then I could see it being a.

mixup. >> But if you knew that you got it from. this and you just dubbed them, then you. just going to keep it solid like that. Play his again, please. >> Yeah, >> I need to see if all the words are the. same. >> Uh, I believe that. >> sounded like it. >> Not for the ver, but. >> does it matter though? >> Yeah. >> No, >> it matters to me. >> It doesn't matter. >> It matters to me. >> Pull up. >> Oh, he did say pull up. That's the part. I was really want to hear. All right. >> It almost sounds like the exact. >> So, so, so now it matters to me. Uh, is. because the words are exactly the same.

If the words are not the same and the. melody is not the same, then. >> Melody is the same. See, that's what I. was talking about. >> I'm saying, but if they were not, then. we both heard the original record. >> Licky Lee [ __ ]. >> Yeah. We we both heard the original and. we both were inspired by it and we both. used it. >> But this one you heard. >> But this one, >> yeah, >> the words are exactly the same. >> and the effect Not for nothing is the. same. And that that means something too. >> And like you said, a similar effect. >> This is an established producer here or.

DJ as you said, right? He's got. producer. He's not writer or producer. Yeah. >> Because. >> I'm not putting this on him. But if it. weren't, >> I would feel differently for sure. >> Exactly. You know, somebody could run. that game today and be like, "I go make. this yesterday.". >> Right. >> Yeah. If it wasn't Quinn Miller, him. >> Yeah. >> Shout out to Quinn Miller. You always. suck your teeth when I say something. that mad people out there are thinking. >> But you say it. >> This is the very first time this has. come up with drink. Not Aubrey. Yeah, that was. >> whole room so stunned. That was.

so generous. >> That was foul how they did Quinton. though. >> That was [ __ ] up. >> That was what we sucking at T4. Right. >> Well, that's after. But how they treat. how he got did dirty in that situation. >> What was the foul part? >> Uh he didn't leak any of that stuff. >> He didn't ask to be put on the spot. about any of that. All he did was he did. the job. >> I'm saying what did Drake do fouled on? >> I'm talking about how he got how he got. treated after that. >> Oh yeah. No, that was horrible. >> Yeah, that's what I'm talking That was. hard while I got dead. But Drake ain't.

out none of that [ __ ]. Meek did and some other people that. shall remain nameless. >> Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Placent. outside and got in car and he was like, "Yo, I got something I'm working on.". >> Yeah, man. >> And I gave you the effect on it. >> and I'm bigger than you. >> Stop. If you just like a Uber driver. with a hot hook.

>> Yo, that's [ __ ] up. >> Who going to put this to better usage? You or me? Yo. >> Yeah, you pay. Yeah, do it. >> Pay me and then pay me. >> You're right. Go blow that up. >> Come on, man. You still got a chair for. the for the little man's out here, man. >> I do, but it's funnier to say, "Yeah, [ __ ] I stole it.". >> It's funnier to be like, "Yeah, [ __ ]. You stole it. What the [ __ ] you about to. do about. >> debt on that?". >> Nah, pay that man. Yo, >> yeah, pay him, man. Shout out to Caleb, man. >> Good luck with that. That line works. often in the music business, >> right? >> Yo, pay pay somebody.

>> Do do you want to bring up um Cardi B. Tiny's desk at all? >> Why not? >> We can. >> Let's bring it up. I do think Can the. man got you bringing up all the girls? >> You better shout somebody out. >> A B C D. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Um no. Uh Cardi B dropped a tiny. desk um yesterday. >> I'm going to be Oh, >> give me a little rock and roll. Bodak. yellow. Huh? That was a little weird, but I like that. >> Sound fire. >> Hey.

>> Hey, come on now. Stop playing with. Cardi B. Big Bronx. >> Big Bronx in the building. Sound. >> She removed lot's name and shout out. Kelly Rowan. >> She been doing that. >> Yeah, she Yeah, it's my first time. hearing it. Okay. >> But uh um I like one of the songs that. you didn't play that I I like that she. added was the man of your words joint. and she had the vocalist singing in the. background. It it wasn't a song that I. thought she would do at the uh Tiny. Desk, but I like how they chose certain. records that they know would hit. >> with the band and all that. Adam. Blackstone again like that was.

>> her energy was dope. Her delivery was. dope. The background singles were dope. The band was fire. >> You shouting out anybody else. I'm. surprised you and Mark ain't bring this. up. If it take me to do it, >> uh you ain't let me get around. >> I know I didn't let I know I didn't let. I've been quiet. >> I know. Don't worry about it. Don't. worry. I got it. You and Mark. >> Come on, [ __ ]. >> Yeah. It's hard. >> She's flowing on that.

>> This beat is beating. God damn, that. [ __ ]. >> Her flow is flowing on that. [ __ ] She killed that. She. killed that. >> Hey, mute the [ __ ] out. Mute up if. you're not going to say nothing. positive. >> Why? You know what I'm saying? >> She absolutely smoked that last. >> did. She put her foot in. And the visual. again, >> that don't sound like none of the other. I was hearing. >> The visual again looks great. >> That don't sound like none of that same. song stuff I was saying.

>> No, that's true. >> That sound like a whole new song. >> That ass piece. >> That sound like a new song right there. >> Yeah. >> I ain't never heard that before. >> That's I'm not doing what I is doing. That's fire to me. >> Yeah. Come on. >> I'm telling you this is fire. >> Yeah. >> Got to eat Crow sometime. >> No, I don't. Do I paint on the last. [ __ ]. >> Crow is good. Crow is all right. I don't. know. Crow is all right. Put a little. sone on that. >> I don't need it. Do. >> a little dobo. Little slow little. country sweet sauce. You all right? >> Country. >> Listen. Somebody do something dope. I'm. going to say it's dope. I don't care who. it is. >> No, she she killed it. >> And that record was fire.

>> Record is fire. >> Shout out to me, man. >> Shout out to Meg, man. Listen, man. Good. day today. Back when how you started. your album used to mean something. [ __ ]. open this up like this. Yo nah. >> Yo, that [ __ ] opened up a double disc. like this. >> Come on, man. Stop playing with him. Brooklyn, what up? Brooklyn, what up? >> Yo, way before the busted puff ain't. even know what happened. It was done. smoothly. Silences on Godamn.

Yeah, >> that [ __ ] like a. >> I'm trying to outro one of them days. >> I'm trying to outro the I can't even. outro the pod with this [ __ ] talking. this [ __ ] Let that [ __ ] go, man. Let. that [ __ ] go. >> Can I Can I hit Slick real quick, please? >> No. No. No. >> Cuz it ain't It ain't going to be It. ain't going No, I'mma play it for you. It ain't going to be what you think it's. going to be. And can you play Can you. play animal again, too, before we got. >> Let me hear.

>> And. that [ __ ] right there went. >> Don't laugh, Freeze. Please. >> That's what I'm saying. Flick Rick don't. have no songs we could bring up and they. going to be laughable. That's what I'm. saying. >> No, I got Flip. I got Flip. Flip. Here. we go. Let's just go to the one for. Flip. >> Let's just go to the one for Flip, man. >> No, that's one of the best stories ever. told. >> That's one of the best stories. >> And you can visualize the [ __ ] running, ducking. Yeah. Come on. Stop. >> Bullet's empty.

>> And it goes to the party. >> We should rank. >> That's one of the best stories ever. told. >> That's a fact. >> It is. >> Still, >> right? I listen. >> You can put that on anywhere. Yeah. I'm with y'all. I'm with y'all. All. right. Listen, man. Hopefully, you've. enjoyed this episode as much as we enjoy. delivering it to you. Keep us in your. prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time we bid you a do. farewell. Adio. la vista arvois. So long about a simple. head now will suffice. Remember life is.

a series of moments and moments pass. So. let's make this one last as if it's all. we explained our situation precisely so. we knew exactly who we facing. Kid name. Jason in the Honda station wagon was. bragging. Oh man, I need the company. Yo, y'all. are down out there. Hopefully y'all. enjoyed this broadcast as much as we. enjoyed delivering it to you. What. everybody got going on this week? Anybody got going on this week? ain't. going to be work work. All work just. work work.

>> Didn't hitt in Philly for the Six's uh. home game today. >> I uh tomorrow Six's uh Cleveland Six's. home opener. >> Got it. Got it. >> Yeah. Where you going? >> I'll be I'll be in Florida. >> Oh, y'all. >> Maybe. >> Oh, you and Flip taking turns again. >> I'm going to see my son. >> Okay. >> We don't take turns. Taking turns again. >> That [ __ ] That was that was. >> I think. we're good. >> What? Yo, I I tell you,

>> yo, y'all are down out there, same time, same place this weekend. We absolutely LOVE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU. OUT THERE. >> MONEY. No joke. >> Enough.

>> Where else? Where else? Joey, would you. have them going so crazy? They're going so nice. >> JB, where would you be without JBP? If you think I'M HERE TO PLAY AROUND. WITH Y'ALL, GODAMN IT. Why many always?