The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 973 | Alma Mater

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>> Microphone check. What is this. JB? [music]. Back to business. right now. We should start the show. >> on the low. That's what he be doing. He. think don't nobody know this, but I'm a. observant Virgo. Ice be trying to show. off his legs. So stupid. >> Ice be trying to show [clears throat]. off his legs. I ain't mad at him either. He keep doing the walk by. [laughter]. >> Oh wow, you got hair. >> Yeah, [ __ ] No, it's in.

>> Yo, Ice. Time to grow the hair back. Ice. Oh, it's only a seasonal thing. >> Yeah. Okay. [laughter]. >> You grow your hair back for the winter. >> Yes. I'm a bear. >> Ice is a bear. >> Ice is a bear. >> Ice a bear. >> Ice. It's It's cold. It's cold and it. rained today. >> It's not raining. >> No, but it rained. >> It rained this morning. >> So when you got up this morning and it. was already outfit, >> it was already done. You grew up. I. check the weather. >> and I check the weather what it's going. to be like later on. I always look at. the weather for the day just cuz it's. cool in the morning. I'm cool. >> And today gave you shorts.

>> Yeah, it gave me shorts today. Feeling. good today. You know what I'm saying? >> I got an issue with you, man. Both of. you actually. You I asked So he's. worried about getting to his barber. tonight in time for the show. >> Come on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I got to get my hairline. >> You got to get and I said I I I've cut. hair before. I could just cut it for him. if we run late tonight. >> Is that your job in the cult? I thought. you were the um driver. >> I was a driver, but I also did in. college. I cut hair. >> He wore many hats. [laughter]. >> Except one. We weren't allowed to wear those. [laughter]. >> He didn't feel good. No. Um,

>> that's what I was thinking. [laughter]. >> Mark, I don't really see you get. haircuts. >> Or bathe or put lotion on or clean. >> lotion. Easily took lotion my hand and. threw it in the trash in front of me. >> Yes. >> Yes. I didn't bring I didn't bring my. bag down here today and my bag got all. [ __ ] Right. Right. So I needed So I. needed some lotion. >> So I said, "Yo, is it lotion here?". These say it's some scentless lotion. here, >> right? Which we used before the show.

>> When we first got into this pod place. >> when we first got in here. >> Yeah. >> I tried to stock this like Joe style. So. it was fly lotion. >> It was fly. >> And now I threw that that I put that. scentless lotion on and felt like I. changed the tire. And when I reached the. name of it, it's [laughter]. >> it's in the garbage. I wouldn't know. >> YOU REALLY DO. I WAS REACHING FOR IT TO. PUT IT ON. HE [ __ ] GRABBED IT. >> NOBODY SHOULD ever wear that again. >> That [ __ ] felt like. >> I didn't want scented lotion. No, it's. not the same. >> I'm just talking about how it felt. That. was disgusting. >> But you didn't YOU DON'T EVEN USE IT.

>> And now no one will use it. [laughter]. >> And what' you replace it with? I'm. looking out for you. I'm looking out. >> What' you replace it with big dog? >> Absolutely nothing. >> Sometimes you got to want better for. people even if they don't know. >> Yo dog, you could you could lick your. hands with saliva and be in [laughter] a. better spot. >> Use a sink. >> Yeah. Honestly, that was nasty. Anyway, so anyway, I could do that for you. >> I'm good. I'm good. >> When was the last time you gave a. haircut? >> My son, >> the last time you got a haircut? >> No. Gave. >> I get one every Monday, but my my I gave.

one. [laughter] Mark, >> are you are you kidding me? >> Yo, let's lie to. [laughter] Look, >> YOU DON'T DO NOTHING. >> THE SAME HAIRCUT EVERY MONDAY AT 3:00. >> NONE. >> [laughter]. >> BE HERE AT 3:00. on Monday. >> Mark, you know, I. >> really do. Check the check. >> You know, for. >> all you fans out there, check the VIDEO. ON [laughter] TUESDAY VERSUS FRIDAY. >> YEAH, [ __ ].

>> You think I don't have A HAIRCUT ON. TUESDAY? [laughter]. >> YEAH. YEAH. >> You are deeply offended by I'VE NEVER. HEARD OF NOBODY NOT GETTING A HAIRCUT. EVERY WEEK ON THE SHOW. >> HEY YO, >> EVERY TUESDAY. >> WHAT DO THEY DO? EVERY MONDAY. Excuse. me. when you go. >> I GOT I GOT WHAT THEY CUTTING YOUR [ __ ]. WITH. So [laughter]. >> you might not like the haircut, BUT I. GET THAT HAIRCUT EVERY WEEK. >> Barbara Robin, [laughter]. you not talking. >> Wait, what are you looking at? Are you. LOOKING AT. >> YOU CAN'T You can't possibly, MY [ __ ].

>> [ __ ] ARE YOU. >> My [ __ ] you come in here out of a. month maybe with a haircut twice. >> That's crazy. >> Out of eight episodes, two days, you got. a haircut. >> That is insane. I would bet you on it, but I won't get I won't see the bread. [laughter] But. go back and look at the footage. Go back. and look at the footage. Every Tuesday I. I get I get a shape up every other week. and a haircut every week. Every other. week. >> Yeah. So every other Tuesday YOU GOT A. HAIRCUT. I'M SAYING EVERY WEEK. [laughter] I sit in his chair. He lines. me up. So he takes hair down. Lines me. up. >> That [ __ ] is stealing your money.

>> That [ __ ] is lining you UP WITH. [laughter] A LAWN MOWER. BUT WAIT, TODAY. WE going to establish like some guy code. and guy rule. On what grounds was that? Yo, I know you not talking like on what. what what grounds do you have to say. that to is he wouldn't have been my. first uh target in that? >> He was the one talking. See these guys. have you guys have baldies. So I would imagine you got to get a. haircut every week if not twice a week. >> Is that right? >> Twice in a day sometime. >> Well that's insane. But.

>> yes. >> Yeah. Exactly. Absolutely. >> Yeah. For me on air, I just make a. decision on Tuesday so that I can hold. it for for most of the week cuz I record. on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. And then. >> some of the Markhive is mad that we be. up here calling you ugly, too. [laughter]. They they do get mad. They get mad. They. like, "Hey, Mark is fine." I was like, >> they had a Tik Tok about. read all that. >> I don't pay attention to that. But why. you don't go bald? You ever thought. about it? >> Well, some Yeah. >> You got hair. He has hair. >> You have hair, but [laughter] I mean, you ain't doing nothing weird. >> I have hair.

I am not. I am about probably 3 or four. years away from where I need to get a. Baldi. >> No, you longer than that. >> You don't need. >> You don't need no Are you closer to. Baldi than you are a trip to Turkey? >> I would go to Turkey before I got to. Baldi at this point. Before I would have. never went to Turkey. Now I go to. Turkey. I have no shame about that. >> You don't need it though. >> If it wasn't Turkey, I'd go. >> He don't He ain't close to a My hairline. just gets light right now. >> I mean, his point is moving back. You know, you don't have to be balding. to get a bald head. Oh, I know. I met 20.

years ago, but you know, I grew it back. and then. [laughter]. after I moved out, we we had [laughter]. a kind of hair back then. We could have. baldies in in the cold. No, we got no. baldies. No, we had the braids. >> They was treating them [ __ ]. >> You had braids. >> They had the Yankee rules. [laughter]. >> No, no beard, no nothing. >> We got afro and braids. We have afro and. braids. >> Corn rolls. >> I can't see. >> what you had. Don't worry about it.

>> Yeah, the brother sunflowers. have [laughter] had to have. >> So, you know, so [ __ ] y'all. I just. offered to cut your hair. All I did was. I'm cool. I pass Y'all have baldies. I. couldn't even [ __ ] him up for free. Cut. my hair. >> I thought you said little man was coming. today. >> Yeah, we had some family emergencies. I. couldn't manage that. >> You was looking forward to seeing her. Yeah. >> He wanted another half Puerto Rican in. the room. He needed need some help, man. And you violent. >> True. >> My man, your little man.

>> That's my man. [laughter]. I see a little man. >> He got a promising future. I see it. >> And his father did martial arts, so you. know he'll have a left. [laughter]. >> You keep saying that left. Yo, I'm I'm. going to make you swing at something. I. I watch you swing though. I mean, you. can fight, but your left is a little You. never see me swing to left. >> That's what we saying. >> That's [laughter] in a fight. That's. weird. >> That's kind of what. That's the point. I want. money. I swing the left [laughter] at.

some point in your life. >> At some point in your life, swing one of. the hands. >> What if I do me a favor comes out? [laughter]. >> Yeah. Fire, man. Disrespect is coming. >> Do it, man. [laughter] That's hilarious. >> Oh, man. Oh. >> All right. Come on. Let's have a good. time. Have a good time. Let's have a. good time. I ain't got nothing. It's. just It's been a night. >> You [laughter] good? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. I'm great. I'm. great. I got like I'm I'm growing in. resentment toward my partner unbeknownst. to her because.

>> until now until because. >> my my the schedule of my body now like. yesterday I was like you know what I'm. out tonight. All right. >> No man I don't give a [ __ ] what you got. going on. I'm going out. We went to eat. at like 7. >> Mhm. And. >> is that late for you? >> Leaving the house. Oh, leaving the house. at 7. Okay. To eat. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's late. >> With like a family? >> Yeah. >> Both her kids came. I thought we was. bringing the romance back to the. relationship. She was like, "What? You. want to leave her in the house?" I'm.

like, "Yeah." [laughter]. What do you mean? We're back something. to go for this. >> You still expect romance while she. pregnant? >> Well, I was trying to bring some of the. romance back. Go out, have a little. little meal. >> She cramping. So, she probably. uncomfortable. >> No, but we just been in the house, so. I'm trying to like get her to breathe. some fresh air. She brought the kid. anyway. I thought I was going out last. night and I ate at 7:00 and I just I. couldn't I couldn't My body when I wake. up now I'm still seeing the people on. their way home. >> from going out. >> Right. Right. >> My body she something changed.

>> Yeah. >> It's like a task to get out of the bed. at 12 and do something. It's called age. That's what changing. to everything going on. It is. I got I got unadjusted for a. weekend. >> Unadjust. >> I got unadjusted for a weekend. On God. All right. Let's see. >> That line so hard. Yo, that line's so. hard. I don't even play the hook after. it. [laughter] I just cut it off. God.

damn. The funny [ __ ] that line ain't that. hard. It's just a nice decision. You. just got to be in a certain mental space. to even think that. >> Yeah. >> Which makes it hard for a civilian like. me. >> Exactly. >> That line is kind of ridiculous. I would. not even think once you moved out the. hood. [laughter]. All right. >> Can't get them. I would not think to go.

shoot your mom's house. >> That's horrible. >> I got tired of looking for you. I mean, if my mama raised me right, if if mama did a good job, then. [laughter] hey, ain't got nothing to. worry about. >> Don't don't sleep. She ain't got nothing. to worry about. [laughter]. >> Oh, man. Hold on. Let me get these drops. out the way real quick, MAN. >> Who is that?

>> There you go. And is in the building. What episode is this? >> 973. Welcome to episode 973 of the Joe. Button podcast brought to you by fueled. by powered by Price Picks Prices Gang. >> Hey, I see what you did there. I get. Jersey. Go ahead. Uh listen, I am your. humble, gracious, grateful, extremely. happy to be here. Host in a really good. mood. Host not feeling spiteful. Host. [laughter]. not feeling vengeful, not feeling.

personally attacked. Post. >> Joe Button here with some people that. may or may not feel the same. To my. right, [laughter]. my good brother. >> Park Chester's finest Big Ammani in the. building. E, how you doing, man? >> Good, man. I'm in a little bad mood, but. we'll talk about that later. >> All right. All right. We'll get right to. it. Next to him, our good brother, Philadelphia's finest Dr. Mark Lamont. Hill in the building, reigning potter of. the year. How you doing, Mark?

>> I can't complain. Rough week, but you. know, making some life happening, but. I'm okay. We thugging through. You know. what I mean? >> That's why he missed the haircut. It's a. lot going on. >> He got a haircut. >> He got a haircut today. >> Oh, that's the haircut. >> I got it on Monday. It's the same. haircut I have on Monday. [laughter]. >> Have a haircut. >> See, I think. THIS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A HAIRCUT ON. MONDAY. >> NO. >> YEAH, IT DOES. >> YEAH. [laughter]. YEAH. >> NO, it does. >> That's the same every. [laughter]. you brush. >> You you talking to somebody in me and I. know I'm a lunatic. I every Monday and.

Thursday. So what happens to you? Cuz. you turn back ugly again. [laughter]. Wednesday afternoon. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like you. ain't got like a something you do by. yourself. >> Oh, I do nothing. [laughter]. >> Mark. Yo, >> I don't use. >> At least clean your cheeks up. Pause. >> I don't. >> That's what it is. >> Clean your cheeks up is crazy. >> That was crazy. [laughter]. >> What? That's crazy. How you go to a.

barber? I can give you a two on the. [laughter]. just get a two. Don't bring it. Your. bar. [laughter]. >> How long you How long you been with your. barber? >> Uh when I move to Jersey. >> That's it. There you go. He ain't found. the right barber yet. >> N I like this barber, my man. >> You know, your barber. >> No, no, no. I don't go to him. The one. whose girl you took. [laughter]. >> Oh [ __ ]. >> I STOPPED GOING THIS [ __ ]. >> I'm not even talking about him. You. [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> You're missing the point, [ __ ].

>> Lead with that, [ __ ]. >> I didn't take the [ __ ]. >> Lead with that. She would not I'm not. talking about him. After the third week. of him talking about this with a. straight razor around, you know what? >> You can't take somebody that just want. to go, right? >> Yo, the streets better be happy your. girl got you on lock. I tell you, this. whole [ __ ] do say that he did this 20. Yo, it's just one of them. But some some. you see on the gram and you see that. they in a relationship and it's some be. like, thank the Lord. >> Dude was definitely happy you was off.

the street. >> Yeah. Is cuz is [laughter]. my boy. Anyway, uh Ish is here. Is. [laughter] big is Mr. Thousand Doors and. Up in a new sweatuit. >> Huh? Premiering here before it gets to. DC. How you doing? [laughter]. The last one did. >> the last one did for me. [laughter] Yo, dog. He wore it here, then went to the. party, and then wore it back here. >> That's not what happened. >> That is exactly what happened. >> That's not. >> No, we not on purple. We got We got We.

got We got him in the scope. We not on. purple. That's what happened. >> That's not what happened. What are you. talking about? >> Why do me and Ice think that's what. happened? >> I don't know. >> Maybe we bought that sweat. I told you, [ __ ] I went at the last minute and. bought that sweatuit before. >> So, you look So, you got two of them. No, I got one. >> But it looked like one you had already. that you wore here. >> It doesn't. But it's all right. >> And boy, we was in the house. I was. calling this dirty for a whole. [laughter]. I was talking I was talking bad about. I'm glad he cleared that up for me and. Freeze. >> Me and Freeze was talking bad about you.

when we thought I was like, "All right, he want to be identified." All right. [laughter]. If. >> I did that, I don't give a like. >> Nah, but I know your sweatsuit game. killing. They talking about anyway. That. one look good. Who made that? >> I don't know. >> It look nice. >> Thank you. >> Anyway, man, growing hair for the. winter. [laughter]. >> A resident bear. >> That's crazy. >> Yo, that's a wild to say. Wow. >> Yeah. >> Said it was wild when I was shaving it. Waxing the hair. >> No, that was also wild.

>> Yeah, shaving is wild. >> It was wild either way. >> PICK. >> NO, NO, NO. YEAH. I MEAN, >> it's wild when you're indecisive. >> I'm not just do nothing with it. >> Yeah. >> That's just like I grow my beard out. when the winter gets here. I'll take it. down. You have a beard all year round. You should stop doing that. It stays. long. That That's That's a Why are we. talking about it? [laughter]. >> Well, it will be while we while we. having the whole hair discussion. Let's. help each other out today. >> Yo, this a [laughter]. >> Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, whatever you do. with this, I want to stop that [ __ ].

>> No, come on. Come on, Breeze. Don't do. it, baby. [laughter]. All right. Whatever then. >> Hey. Well, my finest big parks is in the. building. >> What's up, Tims? >> Got the nice Tims on today, too, man. It's fall. >> Is it Tim season? >> Yeah. This season. got to go TO. [laughter].

[laughter]. DR. Jim. [laughter]. Jersey now. Timberlandies and all you. >> No, I was think I thought we were still. on uh uptown time, but no, it's getting. past that. We off 40 below time knocking. them down. >> It's not quite 40 below. Yeah, not not. the 40s. Yeah, >> we got to get some feels hikers. >> I saw a few people wearing them. yesterday, so I don't know. >> It's too early for that. >> All right. All right. >> To me, I'll keep them up. >> Too early for what? >> 40 blows. >> The 40 blows.

>> It's up to here. >> Stop it. >> Oh, if you see a [ __ ] wearing 40. Who. the [ __ ] just said they wearing 40 blows. right now on last night at the show. wearing 40 blows from your hood? They. was from your hood. They were artists. >> No, that's different. That's [laughter]. different. That's different. That's. different. That's different. That's. different. >> You know, that's different. They wasn't. from here, were they? >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> [ __ ]. Your performance outfit. >> I can see someone from Cali being like, "Oh, New York. I'm wearing the 40. Below.". >> It's two Brooklyn [ __ ] No, but 40.

below performing is different. >> You can wear the [ __ ] you want. >> It's actually kind of worse. It's hot as. up there. 40 belows. >> Yeah, but on stage fashion had too. So. yeah, this is fashion. So yeah, >> last year that Nick's playoff run, I. think that was last year. All them all. every opposing team on the walk-in was. walking in with Tims, pissing me off. Hallebertton with the Tim. Somebody else. wore the Tim. >> looking bad. Yeah. >> Yeah. When from Indiana we had Tim Some. people [laughter] Yeah. They l from. Indiana period. Right. Look at them.

>> Y'all know fly people. All right. Uh Po. is here. >> Yeah. [ __ ] Ian from Indiana. >> Kids from Indiana. >> Ian and Dunlab is from Indiana. Never. seen. >> him. But he got that Houston sauce on. him now. >> Never seen him with Tims. >> He got the Texas sauce on him when moved. to Texas. >> That's a little different. >> It's Texas. Okay. >> He always suited and booted. It's. different. >> Right. >> Blame my girl. We talking Texas [ __ ]. [ __ ] from Boston. Shut up. [laughter]. >> Po. You good over there? >> Yep. >> I don't know. [laughter] Just making. sure you all right, man. How's the. dating scene going?

>> I don't know. I don't know. >> That is good. Ain't sound right. >> She broke your heart. >> Sound a little shaky. >> Hey, Po. Hey, Po. Would you or Erikson. tell us if like y'all were getting your. heart broken? >> That's a good question. >> Cuz like we sit here and be talking. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Y'all don't. But y'all are family and we. see y'all. >> Yeah. We don't really know about their. love lives quite frankly. >> at all. We don't know. We don't know. I. saw Po out with the thick black girl. when he was looking like that. Rico. Suave and then it Yeah. Then it didn't.

work out. >> I mean [laughter]. that's when I learned white people beat. and scram too. Huh? >> For sure. [laughter]. >> Yo, what the. >> Anyway, as long as the dating scene is. going good, I don't know, man. Po look. down. >> Yeah, he looks He's been working hard, that's all. >> Yeah, he's a little busy. >> Busy. He over there editing photos, right? [ __ ] start working hard when. they ain't got no yin-yang going on. >> And I text him yesterday, too. Send me. that folder again. Just we just look at.

it. [laughter]. >> Just in case. >> Just in case. You said it me. >> I asked I asked for help. [laughter]. >> Man, this guy. Yo, you as messy. Yo, >> Mark is the messiest. in the world. Anyway, Big Corey is here. Huh? Everything going good over there, right? >> A look at him. >> Look at Corey. Did you see the new mom.

land? Was she home for that? [laughter]. >> Oh man, Erikson is here. Tanner Savana. here by remote. Last but certainly not. least, each and every one of you very. important people out there are here. All. right, let's clap. >> Yeah. >> What up? >> What up? >> Come on. You know what to get to, man. >> Come on, man. Let's do it, man. Let's do. this. >> Let's get straight to it. >> Let's do Let's do this. >> Let's do this. >> Let's do it. >> You rapping again. >> This man was in the house just just.

trying to keep keep cool. >> You say you started writing raps. [laughter] You was under so much. pressure. You started writing raps on. the balcony. >> trying to run. >> Taking my blood pressure medicine. >> You know what I mean? Took some Tylenols. and just got to work. [laughter]. through our last days and start googling. houses. >> All right, man. [snorts]. >> All right. Come on. [laughter]. >> Go ahead.

>> Come on. Come on. I'm not going to get. results. >> I'm in a good I did. >> Okay. >> I'm good. >> Why don't you lead us off? >> Oh, man. Well, listen. It has been. reported that Diddy has been moved. [laughter]. >> And you. get a dog. >> Get a dog. [laughter]. >> Damn. Lean back. >> Don't got a dog. Oh. >> yeah, I'm reminded I had every dog. attack. [laughter]. >> You took care that. >> took care of what? >> Your finger. I know. I'm relying on my.

body to heal properly, >> [ __ ] Go to the [ __ ] doctor. >> No, I heal pretty well. I heal pretty. well. >> I'll let you know when I got to go to. the hospital. >> But I think I'm I think I'm good. >> Okay. >> All right. There's a feeling in your. >> Well, then I'll try to do something. about it. But hopefully this will be all. right. Uh, all right. So, Puff, come on. Let's start with Puff. >> So, Puffy has left Dicks. >> Well, we got we got Fort Dicks Marvel. >> He's now at Wood Allen Wood. >> Allan Wood. >> I GET I GET BAD WITH NAMES.

>> He left Dicks and went to Woods. [laughter]. >> Well, we got an update since the last. time. He was He was reportedly taken to. the hospital with a head injury. We. didn't know. We were We were. speculating, guessing maybe too much. honey in the cell, >> but it turns out he had a little bit of. an altercation. >> Huh. Well, that's what was reported. Allegedly, allegedly. >> Then they later came back and said. >> he didn't have. >> an altercation. Take your husband. >> The family push back. >> I'm keeping my hus cuz y'all was. clowning me for my take on Diddy. But I.

I think uh is. >> Do you have inside information today? >> Um. >> like Lauren De Rozan. >> Lauren De Ro has a lot more on this. She's been she's been on top of this. >> Lauren Rosen don't sleep at midnight. >> Yeah. I talked to Buffy's family. >> and TMZ tried to kind of jack her story. So, I actually appreciated her her. standing up for herself. But the the. basic overview that we know right now is. Diddy went to the hospital. The reports. were that he got into the fight with my. man. Then the reports came back from. Diddy's family that that wasn't true. >> And then later on the prison then backed.

up the family story and said that there. was no incident here at all. But they. did Oh, no. They said that incident. didn't happen. They didn't say that no. incident happened. They were very They. used very careful language. They said. that that was not reported as happening. They said, "Well, how did he hurt his. head?" They said, "That's all the. information we have for you at this. time.". >> They didn't say, "We don't have any more. information.". >> That's all we got for you. >> That's all we have for you. We have no. more information at this point. >> That story is wrong. >> But after all of this though, we do know. that he's been moved to another. facility. >> He's in he's in Allenwood, Pennsylvania, which is a much smaller prison. I don't.

know if y'all know the federal scene, but uh we don't know. Dicks had 4,000. people. Allen Wood has a thousand. >> Okay. So the idea here in theory is that. it's it's u he's easier to watch. >> Yeah. >> Easier to protect. >> Less probability for some. >> Yeah. Assuming some. >> Yeah. >> Why would he be moved if it's just a. simple injury? Let's just say he didn't. get into the fight. If it's just a. simple injury, why would he be moved? >> You mean if you got the injury hitting. his head at the top of the bunk like his. team says? >> Yeah. >> The bunks are much softer. Alan Wood.

>> No, you could be beefing like Audre. You. could be beefing. They going get you out. of here. you a highprofile. The [ __ ]. that he allegedly was beefing with ain't. Trump. So we going to separate y'all. before the [ __ ] escalates. >> cuz cuz D diddy made it hot over there. >> That's what they're saying. Which don't. really make sense to me. But. >> why not? >> Why not? >> Because it ain't like Puff put the out. You get what I'm saying? Like yo, everybody in the feds if you somebody. got a phone, right? So Puff not the.

[ __ ] saying look at me I got a phone. Other people are coming in there taking. pictures of him doing all this dumb. because he is who is it he is. It's not. like yo I'm the one that's leaking all. the information about my privileges. here. >> If you OD with the privileges though you. could be making it hot for everybody. else. No, just you just you being you. has now made it hot for everyone else. >> That's not his fault. >> That is his fault. >> He going to be somebody else. >> He cannot get massages and special meals. out the kitchen from Jamaicans. It's.

people in the jail that are getting that. done. >> But he's diddy though. He's paying them. for it. >> Let me finish. Yo, if you are somebody, it's people in the jail that's getting. that done. They leaking the [ __ ] It. ain't his fault. That's other people are. leaking it is what I'm saying. >> That's just where we disagree. I still. think that's his fault. >> Yeah. Like, but the fact is the other. people getting it don't have no type of. notoriety. So, they don't they don't. care enough to leak it. >> Who you car is on you. >> That's what they say. So, why. >> it's not his fault. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. >> But he's him. You getting a massage. getting all of us up. You got to stop. getting massages, boss.

>> Yeah, you it up. >> That's the point. If you getting. massages is ruining our life, then you. got to stop getting massages. And for. what I'm hearing, which is why I tried. to say last episode, he was making it. hot and the whole situation was hot, which is why I didn't think he was. secretly getting carded out to go to. White Castle. >> Yeah, but but. [laughter] we could agree to disagree. >> Well, no, that part has been disproven, right? So, >> I still think they stopped at White. Castle. >> THEY BETTER STOP THERE. BUT THAT AIN'T. WHY THEY WENT OUT. used to lock me up. before they used to take me to the to. the if I get the cool we got to stop at. Wendy's I get a smoke braid.

>> every time y get locked up. >> every time I've been locked up in New. York the cops have been super duper. flawed like pull over get you something. >> pull over get you something to eat. >> I don't know what they laugh you get the. right cop. >> yes. >> and your transport will go different. [laughter]. every time I've been locked up they've. BEEN GREAT TO. ONE ONE TIME I GOT LOCKED UP, the took. everybody off the van and was like, "Yo, I don't feel like doing paperwork. Whatever y'all got in y'all pockets,

dump that in the trash. I don't give a. what it is. Dump it in the trash. I. don't feel like doing. >> anything good shake out.". >> I wasn't looking at them. I was minding. my business. But no, then [ __ ] got We. took us to the store and everybody got a. chance to eat. Huh? >> Did you have anything done about your. pockets? >> Nope. Not at all. But [ __ ] took. everybody in there. Yo, get something to. eat. >> That [ __ ] was ready to boof the gum. >> [laughter]. >> field. He goes. lollipop. >> That [ __ ] was ready. [laughter] He was. ready. Lollipop on.

>> They said [laughter] you goofing. lollipop. Lollipop. [laughter]. >> Yo, but now every time I've been locked. up in New York, >> those are dark days, too. Trying to. smuggle the nicotine in your ass. >> You're right, though. You're right, though. I'm not [laughter] smuggling. nicotine in my ass. They got cigarettes. in jail. God damn it. >> Not a good one. >> It's not the good one. >> They got to be the ones that come out my. ass. [laughter]. >> And you got to get to a jail. >> You got to get to a jail. True. >> You'll be sitting You'll be sitting for.

a second. Go down by the tombs and get. in that basement. [ __ ]. >> It's a whole new world there. You'll be. dying to get into the jail. >> Anyway, you were saying Mark? >> Yeah. I mean, but but that's kind of it. right now. Diddy's been moved. >> Um yo, to keep up with the tea now takes. too much research. Like I seen the puff. story happen. Diddy versus Dudis. Who is. Dudis but will be Dudis for sake of a. funny story. Yeah. Just to see him. >> I won't. I'm pleased. See, that's the.

problem with keeping up with this. All. day yesterday, I had to see. documentaries of Dudas. >> Stories of Dudis. Dudas's dad. What they. did didn't make him. >> I know. I read it. I read it all. >> And he gets out. Slow down. >> No, before that. >> No, before that. >> they put that and and that's my. question. If they saying that nothing. happened with Diddy Dudis, >> right, >> Dutus? >> Yeah. >> Then why did they change his release. date?

>> Exactly. They didn't say nothing. happened. They said that. >> that didn't happen. Yeah. >> That's why. >> something happened. >> I'm paying attention to that. >> Read between the lines. Something. happened. we just going to disprove. >> But from what I'm hearing, it was a very. clear situation where Diddy was that. that he was upset at how hot he made it. for for other people. Now, I don't know. if it was just a a small conversation. that escalated because of how Diddy. carried it, how he responded, >> but that's that was what initiated. according to. >> they. expeditiously still moving. They moved. him.

>> expediently. You have to that [ __ ] don't. that ain't playing. That's a billion and. I mean with a B a billion dollar lawsuit. if something happened to him if god. forbid would have passed away in that. prison. >> with this much spectacle on it the world. I mean people die in prison every day. and no one cares but this one people. would care about and the prison will be. accountable cuz be like wait a minute he. went to the hospital this day came back. and this happened. >> no not just that yo y'all have been. having a microscope on this man since he. came into jail right. >> again that was my point like yo dog how. do we know cuz again it's it's highle in.

jail puff ain't the first that was in. jail that got a big came. Yo, y'all are. basically telling the world what he's. doing in the jail and that's not. supposed to happen, >> right? >> So, there's somebody internally that's. leaking all of this that puff got. >> here's the thing. The two guys, this is. the last piece of this for me that the. two guys that leaked it to CNN, I mean. to uh TMZ were not like employees of the. prison. These weren't like guards. These. were two people who I understand were. disgruntled with Puff for some reason. So that might also be I don't I I don't. want to get into speculation land, but.

what we know for sure is this is two. people who are pissed off at Puff. So it. could be you should have handled you. should have managed this better so that. this didn't happen. >> All of that. >> Yeah. So that's a speculation. >> It's all liability issues for the. >> No, I mean Puff should have handled this. better. >> Whatever got them disgruntled. >> Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That might. have been what the confrontation was. about because I understood that two many. of the workers who were preparing meals. for him were the Jamaicans in the. kitchen. So that's another piece of this. that could connect some dots. >> Yo, been in jail forever. They don't. give a [ __ ] about none of that puff. [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> They don't care about that. >> No, I agree. >> You coming in here, you come in here.

with that same ego you had on the. outside. You getting your privileges. We. don't like that you making a block hot. Yeah, like you said, something comes. with your name being in here. The eyes. is on you. You got to move like you know. that or you going to make it [ __ ] up. for the rest of us. So, we going to go. ahead and give you a little boob bop. over the head. >> Puff might be tight. >> Send you on your way. Yeah, >> you tight. You take me out the load that. I'm comfortable in that I've been here. moving around. >> close to home. Put me in Allen Wood. >> That ain't close. >> Mm-m. >> My man. You going to figure it out. though? >> That's where ice move.

>> No, it's not where ice moves. [laughter]. >> When the ice move. >> Wait a minute. Allentown. >> Now you talking about some 973. >> No. Allen Wood is not Allentown. >> Allen Wood. I wasn't in Allentown. either. But. >> Allen Wood is not Allentown. >> They both ain't rapperable, [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> You won't you won't go out to Allentown. talking that [ __ ]. >> I won't go to Allentown. [laughter]. >> No, I won't go to Allentown. Period. They won't go to Mars town [laughter]. goddamn Allentown. >> Why the hell would I go to Morrisville? >> It's good. Shout out to Allentown. I'll. see y'all on October 31st.

>> You going down there? >> October 31. Yep. >> [ __ ] take any bad. Get a haircut. [laughter]. >> This is a Muslim event. >> I hope that uh you don't need one. >> What do [laughter]. you see? He can see no line up. >> You can't put a kofy on your beard. Not. my good. >> Oh. Oh. >> Anyway, I hope that Puff is all right. for sure. word. >> cuz the no they're not reporting that. part. >> I've heard what I heard from and I. talked to somebody who works in the old. prison new one that he's okay that it. was a very quick turnaround and that was. like minor stitches. That's what I.

heard. Okay. >> No boobop. >> Yeah. >> I don't know about no booop. I'm not. saying that. I'm just saying it was. minor. They sent him and sent him back. to the same very very quickly. You know. he's okay. >> Stay safe man. Stay safe. >> That's why stay out them jails boy. >> Gotcha. >> Ain't nothing good in them jails. >> Mm. No sir. >> It's nothing but violence and ready to. commit more. >> That. >> indeed. >> No s. >> Stay out of trouble.

>> And I mean all trouble, [ __ ] Parking. tickets had me in a a match with a. killer. >> Yeah. That's be like, "Yo, you just got. locked up for traffic." Yo, you think. they got traffic jail? >> Yeah. >> And then criminal jail. You in the jail, >> child support jail. >> All Hey, hey, go ahead. You taking a. stand against the against the state, not. paying you a little $150 a week. It's. going to have you in there with. somebody. >> You going to take a stand over there cuz. you can't sit on the bench. [laughter]. [ __ ] you talking about? You be standing.

room only. >> Not paying your child support to the. state seemed like a good idea until they. hit you with their rears and then you. just should have. >> and interest. [laughter]. >> No, ain't no interest. interesting. state. >> Oh, he been all state. [laughter]. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] got. >> that [ __ ] is the authority. You got to. play. >> It's interest when you try to lead a. state. [laughter]. >> I'm going defer to you, bro. >> Yeah, that's smart. >> It's interest when the the mother's on. public assistance and you don't Let's.

>> Oh, wow. >> Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. later. >> Well, not in Jersey. >> God bless y'all. Y'all do good out here. >> All you got to do is pay that little. wick back [laughter]. in Jersey. You be mad as hell cuz that's. when they come get you. When [laughter]. when the mother on that wick, they go. out looking for you with a new. flashlight. [laughter]. >> I'm paying for your no that back. >> That's all they be mad at. >> Anyway, [laughter]. Mark's so embarrassed by a wick back.

>> A wick back. >> Anyway, what else is important, man? We. glad that Puff is all right. Hopefully, he don't start no down in Allenwood. Uh, I want to shout out anybody out there. with a job. >> Indeed. Everybody that's working again. It's that time of year where layoffs are. happening. Uh, Netflix, I read a lot of. layoffs over there. >> Uh, somebody else had Oh, UMG. UMG. Lot of layoffs. Uh, including.

Toung. Shout out the tune. >> Uh, and Hot 97, >> which is which has probably been the. spiciest. of them just because Cass and. >> Maro decided to take it to absolute hell. on their airwaves, >> which is crazy. >> Do Do you like Do Do you Do you love or. hate that part? Love it. >> Absolutely love it. I thought I I. thought it was like this. Come on, let's. talk about it first. >> I don't love it. >> Why? I didn't do anything wrong. I just. hate.

>> it just means the beginning of the end. Like you don't do that and keep your job. long. >> Oh, okay. And I love them and I want. them to thrive and I hate that. I just. hate what it means. I guess it's not. always true, by the way. >> No, no, no. >> This is true. >> You're looking at you're looking at this. wrong. When by the time someone decides. to do that, they are clear that the job. is over. >> That's true. >> Yeah. I'm saying the same thing. Sometimes. >> it's the beginning of the end. That's. why I hate it. I hate what it signifies. I hate what it signals. Like I I wanted. them to win. And I I think they're. talented. I think they were put in a up.

spot at a network that's not given any. resources, not invested in the show. >> But but if that's the case, then they've. already accepted the fact that we ain't. here long. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Or yo, I don't. even want to be The way Cass was. talking, it was almost like, yo, I don't. want to be here. >> Yeah. >> Like, yo, you got us working in the. basement. Like, you know what I'm. saying? like the the working conditions. in in which we're this ain't suitable. >> And then he was biging up everybody. like, "Yo, y'all had to go through.

this.". >> Oh, yeah. This some. >> They don't have a studio, right? They. still don't have like a like a home base. for 97. >> I have no idea. But the way. >> I feel like that was a complaint before. where like uh certain people were. working up there like they were just. going to like some of these makeshift. offices. There was like no real phone. base. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that either. >> Yeah, I heard that. But to Joe's point, like, yo, dog, when you decide to do. this, like them knew they was coming in. to do this. And it was even one point. when Cass started talking, I don't know. who said it, but somebody from the back. was like, "Yo, you sure you want to do. this?".

>> And he was like, "Yes." Somebody asked. him like, "Yo, you sure you want to go. that route?" And he was like, "Yeah.". So, he had already made up his mind. like, "Yo, this is what we about to do, and we going to take whatever recourse. that comes along with it.". >> Let's play the clip. Let's do it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I said play this guy who gets paid two. more zeros than you and you're like what. does this guy even do? And that's a. question I find myself asking myself a. lot cuz we are in the era of independent. media. So you could go out and do your.

thing and make your own thing shake. You. know what I mean? Uh you don't need to. depend on them. >> Yeah. This the worst place I've ever. worked in my life. Value. something. >> Did y'all know? >> Yeah. When you when you talk like that, you're leaving out the door. You don't really care how they feel. about it. You're kind of saying it on. their mics for them to hear it because. I've said it behind the doors a million. times and y'all basically told me to. suck a dick. Listen, I didn't speak to. anybody. I've just been in close.

proximity to that situation before. >> I've seen I mean, I've seen it. The only. time the Well, the freshest thing in my. mind is um John Oliver always on HBO and. that whole situation has been for years, but he's got like a bazillion Emmys and. it's a different space. So, I. >> That's true. But that's a good example. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So, >> but I do love sending messages to upper. management of a show while I'm on the. show. >> Like Everyday Struggle did the right. thing with me. >> We know you. [laughter and clears throat]. >> Everyday Struggle did the right thing.

And they tried their best to cool it. down with the whole Joe's having a baby. so he won't be here. And I was home. sending a tweet likeap. But had I come in Oh, bombs over. Baghdad. Bombs over Baghdad on my last. show. And I like for the employer to. know that about me. >> You know what though? >> I do. >> It was pre-recorded, right? >> Uh, Everyday Struggle. Yeah. >> So, it would have never let that out. Yes, they would have. >> for the ratings. >> Oh, that would have been out. >> Maybe. >> that would happen out. >> But they're doing that [ __ ] live.

>> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? They doing. that [ __ ] live. So, even if the the the. suits didn't want to put it out, it's. too late. >> Let me get back to it. >> Yeah, I do. Did you know that. >> Cash was going off is killing it. have better ratings than our chief. competition, which is like have way more. >> uh I want to say uh resources than this. place, you know, when it's. >> I would have never said that in this. style of interview of what I'm doing. >> Like [clears throat] if I'm going out. with a blaze cuz I ain't getting along.

and I'm about to quit or get fired, I. ain't saying nothing about down the dow. >> No, he but he ain't saying nothing bad. >> Don't don't matter. >> Yeah. And he did. He been cris cussing. them in the ratings. >> and they and they give they got way. better resources blah blah blah blah. blah. So he. right now it ain't time. It ain't time. for we've been killing somebody and the. ratings and you at odds with you about. you're leaving. You're leaving. >> It's about executive level talent not. being good enough to lead a company or.

anything like that. You look at the. people in this room and it's like, damn, it's a epic miracle that a lot of this. stuff gets done. Folks that listen to. this station, you're probably not going. to see like a lot of folks who have been. here for a number of years because of. that. See, that's he's he's saying that. all of that the the people in the room, yada yada yada. You're speaking to the creative people. You're speaking to the people that are. he's expressing the gripes of everyone. >> Yeah, it sound like a lot of headers. rolling. Let me keep going. Uh it's a.

epic miracle that a lot of this stuff. gets done. Folks that listen to this. station, you're probably not going to. see like a lot of folks who have been. here for a number of years because of. that. Um. >> go, you know, >> you'll see a lot of people that weren't. here before the previous administration. I understand where you brought Rosenberg. and Laura coming from. I understand. exactly what type of things that they've. had to deal with. >> That's a lot a ball there. >> Shouting out their names. I mean, first. of all, I appreciate them him saying. that. Mhm.

>> And he was right. >> But that's another bold move. Talking. down a dial is one thing, but it's even. bolder in some ways. Echoing those who. just left. >> You just validated these people that. have been a staple at this station. basically saying that this ship is. sinking. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you got to remember how the people. that just left went out and what they. said. They literally, yo, you got. corporate people in here who don't care. about none of this [ __ ] You just. stamped it. They And you basically. brought us in here and we stamping. exactly what they said. True. >> I mean, sure. But who didn't believe.

Ebro about what he said? >> It's not about It's not about believing. it, though. It's when you bring the new. crop in here and back it up in a short. amount of time. >> They ain't been there long. >> at all. >> And they already saying, "Yo, excuse me. The last group was right. >> This is up in here." And we just got. here and are already telling y'all that. >> That's something different. Cuz usually. >> when you bring that new crew in, they. And. >> they'll be jaded for a while. They'll be. jaded for a while. You said it better. than I was about. >> I think the point y'all are um making. speaks to how bad it is.

>> Yes. >> But I 100% believed Ebro and Pete about. everything that they they said. >> True. But again, for somebody to come in. in what should be the honeymoon phase. >> and that honeymoon ended abruptly and. quickly and to start now. >> Yeah. Like they start echoing the same. exact sentiment. >> Cuz these guys recently got got this. gig, right? >> Yes. >> Recently, like how long ago? 6 months. >> A year. Not even.

a year. >> Within the year. Within the year. >> Yeah, within a year for sure. >> I want to know what happened back there. >> I want to know what happened back there. You. >> know what I'm saying? Being here, we. love 97. We love what it grew up. We. grew up and it sucks what it's become. It's an awful situation that we're in. right now. It is not for the money that. we're doing this. I'll tell you that. much. It's because of the love of this. And I've never dealt with no crazy is. like this. >> Actually, I swear I think I got Cass's. phone number. >> Yeah, I know. I got it. >> I think I got C enough of this.

>> Yo, January of 26. >> Enough of this. Top of the year. It was. announced. >> I ain't even been. >> It was announced at the end of last. year. >> Yeah. >> Feel like old school JBP. >> Word. Get him a love. >> Yeah. Randomly calling somebody you. ain't spoke to in man long for some tea. >> He ain't picking that up. >> All right. Well, I just wanted to see my. T that I called, fam. I was over here. texting over see my number over here. >> He's smart. >> Oh, if he got text from you. >> All right. It's all right. I got I got. Melro number, too. [laughter].

>> There you go. It's all right. >> There you go. >> Investigative journalism. >> live on air. >> Come on, man. >> Take that, Pablo. >> No, no, [laughter] no, no, no. We ain't. don't [clears throat] need shouting. Pablo out. >> No, we shouting Pablo. >> We definitely shouting Pablo out. >> Definitely getting a shout out. No, we. 100% shouting Pablo. Kelsey Clark's in. peace. I stand with I ish. >> A+. >> We're getting back to that. Kelly. Clarkson. >> A+. >> We're getting back to that. >> That [ __ ] was I did call it. >> Melo. I'm on air. I'm on air. >> Oh, baby. [laughter].

>> What up? >> Yo, >> I called Cass first. He just hit me. back. Said he's taping his wrestling pod. and he'll get back to me. And then I. called you immediately. What can you. What can you share with me? How bad is. it? Well, I mean, you know, like it's just. media company [ __ ] It's not like the. corporate structure and blah blah blah. It's it's kind of like what I was saying. about executive level talent. You know. what I'm saying? Like you could have the. best on air talent, you know what I.

mean? Like just like you can have the. best booers on the court. If the front. office is kind of like lost in the. sauce, then you're going to get you're. not going to be able to make a. profitable profit. That's it. You know. what I'm saying? Like. >> All right. I see I see you've calmed. down a bit. >> I I see you I see it sound like somebody. got you together cuz when you go on air. when you go on air I was just sitting. here saying yo for Cass and them to go. on on the airwaves with that means.

something it was bad back there and. >> well I mean I like my thing like I I. faced the same thing bro listen you're. independent for a [ __ ] reason. You. goddamn right. >> You know what I'm saying? Like Spotify, right? And what happened at Spotify? >> You know what I'm saying? You money gets. funny, [ __ ] get jerked around. and it's weird. >> So, you know, you it's just again. executive level talent. Like when you. don't have talent like in the seauite, you know what I'm saying? Like or.

>> I don't want to use the word talent, man. like just like knowledge of. >> somebody who gets it. Somebody who. understands what what should be going on. to be able to relay it [laughter] to the. people that don't speak the language. >> That's it. >> Hey, bro. Listen, I'm still here and. here support somebody. [laughter]. >> I'm here. >> Well, you absolutely have my support and. and everybody's support. Yeah. Up here. [ __ ] it. They going to keep letting you. in the building. Keep burning that [ __ ]. down on their microphone.

Hey man, look. So, it's like it don't. even got to be like that's what it is. It's like I don't even I have no. interest in arguing with [ __ ]. that don't have a platform to argue. back. You know what I mean? So, it's. just like it's just like, "Hey, wake up. Check. Check." And that [ __ ] works. >> Did they cut your Did they Did they Did. they cut your pay? >> [ __ ] no. Are you sharing me? Yo, listen. man. >> That's the rumor I'm telling you. The. rumor in the streets. The rumor in the. streets is they slashed they slashed. everybody's pay in half along with some.

firings. >> Listen, I don't know about everybody. else and I can't speak to anybody else's. financial situation, but I told these. guys from a jump like I'm only taking a. certain amount. to even talk to y'all. >> All right. Well, I got to go and finish. talking behind you guys' back now. [laughter] I just wanted to call I just. wanted to call for the tea. [ __ ] light. [laughter]. >> I love I love. >> I love you, man. I'll talk to you later,

Mel. >> Bro, >> my guy. >> Yeah, even his later sound like. my boy going through it. >> Yeah, >> it's up to see going through this. But. >> hey, it's tough. >> It is what it is. >> It is what it is. >> Better to see it than to be it. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That is a fact. Ah, I gotta call you and Ian next week. about what? Say more. Might come up here. and start saying some too.

>> You know it's not a live show. [laughter]. >> Look right over if it get took out then. >> Joe didn't even show you when when you. whooped his ass on the couch. You think. you going you think you. >> I came across when I was in an. uncompromised situation at the start. He. put you in an uncompromised situation. I. started in an uncompromising. situation. Any one of y'all listen I. [laughter] hear you. Any one of y'all at. any time can get a fair one with me. >> Let me let me just say that whoever who.

I don't know who need to hear it in this. room. >> I know the jokes. around the ROOM RIGHT THERE. ANYBODY. RIGHT THERE. >> YEAH, BUT I AIN'T just talking to him. Don't talk. >> And I ain't [laughter] really talking to. you neither. I mean like a tough talk. >> Oh yeah. >> I know. I know anybody away from that. >> Anybody that need a fair one with Joe is. available. >> We good and win lose or draw. I'm coming. back to work. Ain't that going to get. you by? [laughter] Well, >> he's still here. >> Yeah, he's still here.

How did you tap him out? You ready? [laughter]. >> I mean, we seen it. >> Yeah, that was crazy. >> That was crazy. >> Chicken wing. >> All right, man. Let's move on, man. >> I'll snuff Mark. [laughter] You work on. the drive. They can bomb back. >> Oh, I got to slide somebody now. I'm. hearing [laughter]. I'm hearing the key. Now you got. >> Now you got to go back to school and. [laughter] somebody you just GOT SENT.

OH GOD. Oh god. >> But the [ __ ] that did it to you. >> Yo, shout out to uh y'all. I heard that. It was a shutdown at my alma mada. That's how you say Mark. >> Close. Out. Not [laughter] you graduated. You. have an alma mater. >> I heard it was a shutdown in my alma. mada. >> Yeah, [ __ ] If you could go to a. homecoming, it wasn't yours and you. ain't graduating. Why? I can't have a. >> I went to the school. [laughter]. >> You know what I mean? I got a. transcript. >> Did you go to Morgan State? >> Yes. >> How long? I didn't know that.

>> Two years. I got a transcript, bro. >> Yo, you went to Morgan State for two. years and you've been in online college. for 25 years. >> I've never been to online. >> When is college done? >> I've never been [laughter] to online. college. Never let go of your youth. >> That's right. Never stop learning. You. got it, brother. >> That's true, too. That's true, too. No, but Lincoln, Lincoln High School, I. heard they had a shut down over there. >> Why? Whatever. >> Yeah. >> Oh, man. Yeah. >> I hope everybody praying for everybody. [laughter]. >> That [ __ ] fought us. >> That [ __ ] fought us tooth and nail. Yo,

y'all don't know you talking about. Bergen School is in Jersey City. >> Yeah. Don't say. >> it's in Jersey. We say it's not in. Newark. And the Chad school was for the. bright kids. I don't know where y'all. went. >> Uh anyway, [laughter]. where where were we? I Where were we. now? >> I had a whole I had a whole different. question for you unrelated to your alma. mater. [laughter]. >> Um. modern day. [laughter].

>> it's it's almost baby time. >> and I purchased a thing. This baby is. about, let me not put a date on it if. people show up at the hospital. But this. baby is close and I can't answer that. >> That's what the shower is for, bro. [laughter]. >> We're going to come bring you diapers. and um cribs and. >> the registry, too. It's not bad. >> Uh shirts for the baby. Look at the. registry. No, that wasn't the registry. That's the registry that we going to. send to you [ __ ] That's what you. >> I mean, but a lot of the stuff that you.

had on the cover because I was telling. Parks, I don't have faith in this. system. [laughter]. >> Oh, no. I don't. >> You don't think we're going to bring you. diapers? >> Joe, we're going to buy some. >> We're going to bring you diapers. >> I'm bring something fly. >> I a. >> fly diapers. >> You didn't have what registry. >> cuz you said [ __ ] was going to get the. [ __ ] you wanted it. >> Go ahead. You can say. >> you did. Mhm. >> Why you had no registry though? So then. people bought just gifts that they. wanted to random [ __ ]. >> When you had the baby?

>> Four years ago. >> Four years ago. >> What you doing? You doing some math? >> Let me doing some math. >> How long you working here? >> 5 years. >> So let's expedite this. He ain't got. alma mo either. He said [laughter]. I can tell [laughter]. this. mama papa none of that [ __ ]. You break it down, please. >> What he's trying to say. >> is I was at the I was working here and.

nobody knew I had a baby shower. >> We didn't know you had a baby. You had a. baby. [laughter]. >> Yeah, [ __ ] know I had a baby. But we. [laughter]. >> knew after you had the baby. >> You don't When did you When did you tell. people you had a baby? >> Three years ago. [laughter]. >> When he needed a daycare. >> That's not true. Was the baby Was the. baby uh had the baby been born when you. told him? >> No, they lying, bro. >> Okay. ALL RIGHT. >> NO, I DIDN'T KNOW. DIDN'T KNOW.

[laughter]. >> WHEN WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT HE HAD A. BABY? >> When he said, "Yo, what school you put. your daughter in?" [laughter]. >> When she was THREEIS. I'm not censoring you right now. >> Ice is liar. >> We go through this all the time with. you. >> Unfortunately, we have to do it now. about the baby shower. It's important. cuz I'm having a baby shower. >> No, that's wrong. >> Why Ice and me and Amani didn't? >> It was no men at the baby shower except. me. >> That was the only man at the baby.

shower. Follow question. >> They still could have known about the. kid though. >> They lying. Guys, follow question. Remember like the kid birthday parties. and stuff? >> Oh [ __ ] I forgot. >> Parties with S. >> Mhm. >> How many were we invited to? >> None. >> Were men at that party? The birthday. party? Very few just friends like old. friends, [laughter] colleagues, >> people I [ __ ] with, but they brought. their kids like people I give a [ __ ]. ABOUT [laughter].

like invited kids. >> And honestly, my girl invited all them. >> Oh, but they have they have kids, too. >> So, so your friends met your girl? [laughter]. >> My girl me and my girl have mutual. friends. >> WAY [laughter] BACK. >> [laughter]. >> Y'all [ __ ] be looking for anything to. >> Yeah. >> clip up. But anyway, [laughter]. >> um you don't see nothing wrong with. that. >> All jokes aside, no. >> You don't think that's crazy? >> No.

>> I think. >> cuz I don't look at stuff and hold that. stuff in that regard like other people. Like I don't have birthday parties for. myself. I don't really do all the. celebratory. So I don't look at that. stuff like that. >> But a child. >> Yeah. So, but your friends who you've. been friends with for like 20 years who. also have children in that age range. >> Cool. What I'm telling you is I don't. look at that stuff like that. I don't. invite nobody to nothing. So, anybody. that gets an invite, the invite don't. come from me. >> But my thing is for your girl to be an.

invite because we don't know your girl. >> All right. >> I don't look at [laughter]. I'm serious. I know that. Like, I'm not. even remotely joking. I know that you're. serious, but toward the end is where. it's flawed. >> No to in your perspective. That's fine. But I'm. >> You never get an invite. Is is if we. have if it's a thing where the invites. are always going through your lady. >> I don't Yeah. I don't I'm not big on. >> What would you invite us to though? Like. if you had Is there nothing? >> He don't have nothing.

>> Okay. >> You get what I'm saying? So that's not. really my. >> There's an unspoken dude thing that's. happening here. I'm sorry. >> No, no, no. Go, go, go. Please. I think. what they're saying I think what is. being said here is that it hurts. people's feelings that you're not that. they're not in that they're not invited. >> How do you what do you say to that? >> Nothing. >> It's not even it's more than that. I. don't know if that's they perspective. >> It's not it's not mine. It's not mine. No. >> Offended because he said offended. >> because he said my friends that were. there were invited through my girl. >> which means she knew them enough to be. able to invite them.

>> Right. some of those. >> we've known this [ __ ] for 20 years. >> Yeah. And I didn't. >> she don't know us to be able to invite. us. >> So what I'm saying is actually the. people that came there. >> that my girl did invite well not all of. them are that that's not true but my. girl knew some of those people before. me. You understand what I'm saying? So. um the people that my girl did invite. they just cross paths in other ways like. >> like what. >> um business like some people that I do.

business with they've met my girl or we. conduct business accordingly. >> like that. Okay, >> now moving on. [laughter] I'm moving on. >> Bro, we can't have no s. Go ahead. Do. your thing. >> because I don't think you realize what. you're saying. >> I do realize what I'm saying. >> We got business with you. >> No, we don't. I come here. I'm talking. about outside business. You We don't I. don't conduct outside business with. nobody here. That would constitute. meeting somebody like I don't do no. business with nobody here. >> Okay. >> Yo, [snorts] invite [ __ ]. >> I got it. >> It's that time. Yo. >> Okay.

>> Invite me. I'm egg that. you want to egg it [laughter]. better now. Now you better not ain't got. no beef. If I find out Danny was. somewhere. I I didn't ask cuz it would hurt my. feelings. So now if I find out Danny was. somewhere. >> he was dead. >> I don't know that and I didn't ask. the why would. >> Why don't you just ask him? He's right. here. >> I don't want to ask. [laughter]. Can I ask anyway? do this.

TV. [laughter]. >> Off of that though, like I'm I'm going. to buy you something. >> Me, too. >> I love Mark. >> Me, too. >> You can smell it around the world. >> No, no, there's no jokes coming. Yeah, go ahead. >> No, I swear to God, there's not. >> Well, I I appreciate that. And And back. to the registry point. I You're 100%. right. >> I know about that. >> Wait, you sent out different registries. for different people? >> No. I didn't want I didn't want to offend. nobody with my registry.

>> Yeah. >> So they just. >> But you could put. >> So that's why it's diapers. >> You could put highend. >> the news the newspaper. [laughter]. on there. Windex highend on there and. the people that got it will get it and. the people that don't. [clears throat]. But it would be all high-end [ __ ] on. there. >> and the people that don't got it are. going to see it. He might feel offended. >> and them seeing some the price to. certain items be a thing. >> I think you got to put both choose. Yeah, just put both people. >> Yeah, Joe is a rich man.

>> That's true. >> In spirit, >> but he can buy the Lamborghini um. stroller himself. >> That's what I'm saying. You're a rich. man. The stuff that you put on the. registry is to allow. >> Cybex. He I think it's Cybex. I'm. saying, "Hey, if y'all listening from. Cybex, the new one, not the I seen in. Bloomingdales that the worker couldn't. get the off of." Send me the new Cybex. rose gold. >> What about I was going to get you I was. thinking about getting you a carrier. Like a male carrier. >> with the joint. >> like a Bujorn. >> Oh, did you put in your.

>> Yeah. Or or the shirt that you stick to. the baby. >> Don't give me that shirt with the little. baby pocket. >> That's what he talk about. >> Don't give me that little shirt. I know. I know. Ice got that shirt. >> Those [clears throat] are nice. I had. one. I never used it, but I got invite. >> Yeah, I got an invite. >> I had one. I ain't never used it though. >> Yeah. No, >> I like the invite. >> Also, what are we wearing? >> It was a [ __ ]. >> Oh, you know what? Somebody else asked. me that. We got to [laughter] know. >> I should probably talk to my friends off. air, right? >> A little bit. Yeah. >> Got that one. >> Yeah, we got the one little feminine. video. We did. It was. >> Oh, you'll have your gray suit. It's.

fine. [laughter]. >> Michael Paul hit me like, "Yo, uh, I see. you going to Taylor. Like, am I supposed. to be suited and booted?" But no, just. like look nice. Just wear pink. >> Okay. >> Look like look like family family. function. Nice. >> No. No. I've [clears throat] I've saw. the spot. >> It looks nice, right? >> It looks nice. >> You should not walk in there in sweats. and. look nice. >> You know, nice for some people. >> So, we can do some dockers. And. >> only that might wear some sweats ain't.

invited. [laughter]. >> My man invited. >> No, I'm spinning on that. >> No. [clears throat] No. >> My man is invited. >> I got to spin. Nah, he popped it too. hard. I don't care if his foot swag, [laughter] [ __ ] I don't give a [ __ ] I. don't give I got to spin it. He said, "No, [ __ ] Y'all can't come." [ __ ] my. girl didn't. His answer was fine. [laughter] But how he popped it? Nah, I. got to spin. I got to We got to have a. baby shower spin. >> You got You got to get dressed up for. the baby shower. >> No, not dressed up. Are you coming? Would you come?

>> Dressed up is a lot. >> Did he Did he send you the invite? >> Suits or not? >> Oh, hold on. No suits. >> No suits. You ain't seen. >> a baby show? >> Not yet. >> You said the iPhones first, brother. >> Yeah. Android second. >> What? Not like shoot it and boot it, but. I mean you look nice. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, of course. >> Get the Burberry shirt, [ __ ]. >> No, that's Joe. >> That's like white on someone's wedding. for him. >> He didn't read the He didn't read the. [laughter] invite. >> I didn't. I was driving yesterday. I.

>> He said, "Is kids invited?". >> No. [laughter]. >> No. And even if they were even if they were. kids are actually are not invited unless. my kids or her kids and that's 17 kids. already. So. >> yeah, no [clears throat] extra something. out. I'll be there. >> I ain't never doing that again. We took. kids to a baby shower once. >> Um and now it's time to make some ad. money. >> Right. You heard it from me. Okay. Got. to pay these bills. Uh time for my.

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>> Oh, indeed. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely, definitely. Definitely. I. was a little crazy. >> I heard that he's not going to be. playing this week, and when I heard the. reason, >> I was I was really, really sad. and. disappointed and concerned about he has. a superficial uh blood clot or you know. superficial uh vein thrombosis in his. calf and that's a very serious thing. It's not as serious as it could be like. a deep. >> clot but it's still a clot. >> and you never want to play with them. clots man. So hopefully he rests and. gets whatever he needs to recover to get. football. >> I was reading about that. So they found.

the clock before the last game. >> Oh, did some test, let him play, and. they said they worried about the flight. back because it's a long flight. >> Yeah. You got to worry about. >> Once he got back, they tested it again. and they realized they moved. Now. understand it is a superficial clock, so. it's not as bad, right? >> But this ain't. >> I don't play with that. None of that. [ __ ] It's a lot less like you can't. play around with this. Yeah, I had one. and almost died. >> I had them I had them before, too. >> Yeah, I almost died. I uh I mean got.

rushed to the hospital with major blood. clots in my lungs in my lungs. >> Oh wow. And. >> it wasn't hard and lungs. That's. >> Yeah, cuz it gone from my my ankle to my. calf up to up here and one was. completely blocked, the other was. >> How did you know that that was. happening? >> I was I was working. >> and uh my heart. >> uh was beating really fast. >> and I thought it was from. >> Aderal. >> Aderal coffee. [laughter]. >> The coffee that I was drinking. The. coffee. >> Yeah. Um, and so, [snorts] you know, I. started googling and I kept working for. a few hours.

>> and my heart kept beating faster and. faster like it had had never done. before. And I had I had shortness of. breath for a few weeks, which is one of. the. >> the big tales of vein thrombosis is is. like swelling in your calf, but I don't. really have calves and I had so I could. I didn't see I couldn't see anything. And I had had a What the [ __ ] is funny. about that? [laughter]. >> Nothing. Nothing funny at all about. that. >> I'm laughing at him cuz he looked at. your calves like to make sure that you I. can't even see his calves. Liar. Liar. [laughter]. >> I didn't Yeah. I didn't have any CS and. I remember I had just ruptured my. Achilles. So, just shortness of breath.

I thought it was from the crutches. But. long story short, uh I I got to the. bathroom. I was walking to the bathroom. and I couldn't breathe anymore. I sat. down and I almost passed out. >> Damn. >> And then I did pass. I went to the. bathroom. I was like, I do not want to. go ambulance and [ __ ] myself. So, I'm. going to go to the bathroom first. And I. passed out on. >> the MEN. [laughter] got my Yeah, I saw [ __ ]. [ __ ] draws when he got Nope. I went to. the toilet and passed out on the toilet. >> cuz he give that. And [laughter]. >> Mark don't use wet wipes. He gives that.

He does give that. No wet wipes in the crib. >> It's a real time. [laughter]. >> You got wet wipes. >> I have toilet paper in my crib. >> One block. One. >> One [laughter] block. Mark. One block. >> Where did you get one block from? >> Tell us. >> It's old. >> You know he ain't got goose toilet. tissue in his house. YOU BEEN IN MY. HOUSE? >> I didn't go to the bathroom. >> I didn't go to the bathroom. >> Oh, I did. >> I wasn't [ __ ] I'm joking. >> I was though. [laughter].

Just on principal. >> Actually, >> yes. I would have [ __ ] right. >> I was scared to move. Mark, [laughter]. >> I never want to be around that many. educated people. >> You will not have to worry. Um, [laughter]. >> I. crawled down the steps and and my. neighbor actually got to the ambulance. for me. And they did the EKG and they. said I was okay, but I still went to the. hospital. When I got there, they they. did a diamond and all that [ __ ] and I. had I literally they said if you would. stay in the house another hour, you.

probably would have died. >> Damn. Don't be no joke. >> Yeah. >> Them [ __ ] break off and go to your lungs. and your heart, it' be rapid. >> They had to put a a sheath catheter in. my in my groin. >> and pull and pull all the. >> All right. The story keeps getting. worse. All right. >> Yeah. All the out. So, I'm just saying. be careful y'all. Just listen to your. body. >> Here's when I think we get to the tail. end of sadness. He say something else. sad. >> It wasn't sad. God damn. >> Still here. So, >> yeah. Way to way to bounce back. [laughter]. >> That small violin came out. >> Saxophone. Just hit a little little.

couple notes. Were you You weren't by. yourself. >> I was by myself. >> You were by yourself. >> That was the point. All down. >> I wasn't listening to him. [laughter]. >> I wasn't paying him. I'm just waiting. waiting to get to the end. But because. he's alive, >> right? Spoiler. >> He ain't trying to put it with a sad. voice like you. >> No, I was concerned about I'm worried. about Jayen Herz cuz I know I know how. that could end. I figure he might matter. to y'all. >> I knew it was serious. I didn't know. that they back up quarterback name from. nothing. That [ __ ] that's starting this. weekend. [laughter]. >> Yeah.

>> Who is dude? >> That's rough. >> They pulled him fresh out of a Costco. >> I don't know. [laughter]. >> You never heard his name nowhere. And. [snorts] it's mad syllables in it. Yo, if [ __ ] don't know you, you can't have. mad syllables in your name. [laughter]. >> You can't. It got to be one, but you got to be. quick and to the point, buddy. When when. we don't know who the [ __ ] you be. >> Uh, all right. Let's get to some music. Let's get some music. >> What we got? WHAT WE GOT? >> LET'S GO. >> FRIEND OF THE SHOW. >> I want to talk about. >> someone we've been the man of his shows.

He showed us an amazing time. >> Got that. >> You know what I mean? Free tickets, backstage, pictures, and he's dropped an album. So, no matter how it sounds, I'm sure Armani. is going to remember all the times Lucky. Day held him down during his uh and we. going to talk we got to talk about that. holding down [ __ ] We going to talk. about it. >> All that you said that's peace. Um Lucky. Day news album came out to uh today. Okay. >> Uh it's called The Loud. We had him up. here. He talked about. >> Thank God we not interviewing him today.

[laughter]. >> Um I I walked in here and instantly. asked Joe, did he hear it? Uh I won't. say his response. Thank you, man. >> I will tell you that I instantly turned. it on the minute it dropped. >> Okay. >> Uh the minute we left the concert, >> got in the car, listened to it. >> Um I'm be honest, I I didn't really. enjoy it as much as I wanted to. >> Um as someone who went to one of his. first listening events and certain. records that he played, it was like, "Oh, I'm excited to hear what that. project sounds like.". >> And I've loved all of his albums.

previous to this. This is 100% off first. off first listen. This is not something. I'm going to run back to uh. consistently. Um there's certain songs I do want to. highlight that I did enjoy. I really. enjoyed the mouth uh mouth with push a. tea. >> You would let me play a little bit of. that mouth. >> Let's play a little bit of that mouth, man. New lucky day. >> It sounds good. I love the. sounds kind of crazy. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Sounds good. That sounds good. Sounds. good. You said it. Play. How many songs is it? >> I I've I've mentioned three records, four records. >> 15 songs. >> It's a 15. >> 40 minutes. Okay. >> Um I don't want to just lean on because. of first listen. The whole album I. didn't enjoy cuz I did enjoy certain. records. But I am a a Lucky Day. supporter. I really do love his albums. Um to me, it's just totally not what I. wanted from him. I I'm I go on. >> stylistically or.

>> stylistically I go on record as saying. one of my favorite projects from him was. the algorithm project even though I know. you guys kind of love. >> I like No, I like that album. >> I love that from. >> his worst album. >> Okay. >> I like that a lot. >> Easily his worst album. >> to you. To me that was. >> to him. >> Yeah. But I can. >> cool. >> I'm not saying it's bad. So no knock on. you for for loving it. There's some [ __ ]. on there. >> I thought that that was the evolution. >> But two albums before that. >> Yeah. and the EP before that he was. creating separation. Uh, I want to play.

this Anything Goes record just because. that's the one that stood out to me on. first listen again. Shout out to Lucky. Day, man. Eventually, I'll leave the. house and see how it sounds in the car. You know what bothers me about these. R&B, man? I ain't going I ain't going to. lie, and I love Lucky Day. I totally get. the whole metric streaming thing, but. when you start a song and know it's. heat, it don't need to be 2 minutes. long. He got a lot of on here that I. with and then he cuts it at 215. I get it. I understand why. But as a as.

a R&B lover, don't piss me off, man. >> Don't hate the player. >> Like you knew during the creation of. this that [ __ ] was going to want to. hear this. It's like you playing around. a little bit. This is Ira couple. >> Huh? I said a couple the mass masses. today with their short attention spans. don't want to hear that. >> I I know. I get that goes back to what. Tank said about just creating in the. same form as rappers to to some degree. And for me being a really really big.

supporter of sticking to some level of. R&B and what that means, what that. sounds like. I don't want that from. certain people. >> So for me, like I said, first listen, I. I enjoy certain records. The overall. project, it didn't hit for me like that. just quite yet, >> especially when he's had the body work. before that. paint it candy drip. algorithm I I want it. >> you like a step back. >> I think creative I think creatively it's. a step back. >> got I can hear it and again trained ears.

I can hear it when get something. different with this situation going on. whether different label different. manager. >> well Miles [clears throat]. is on two records. >> different writers you could just hear. when different is going on in the music. >> different [ __ ] mastering it everybody. can't afford the the good the good. master. No, I'm not talking about him. I'm not talking about I'm saying things. that you can hear. >> Guys mixing this. >> I'm saying just things that you can. hear. I thought Push's vocals was a. little low in and out.

>> Like I don't like R&B dudes mixing rap. vocals either. >> Yeah, sometimes. >> And vice versa. Me too. I'm I'm not a. fan of that. >> Snow dropped uh the first record that we. heard in full. This record is called. Karma. [music]. >> Did you guys hear this record? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> What did you think? What did you think? What did you think? >> It's cool. Not super in love with it, but it's cool. >> To me, it just sound like a joint that's. going to make a lot more sense on. whatever project it's on. >> It seems like an album cut more than. like a single, per se. >> And that was my problem. Like,

>> you've been away so long. >> And I don't need a single from her. >> I need a drum. >> I don't need a single from her. She. could have she could just give me the. album. Really? If this is going to be. the single, just give me the album. [music]. >> I ain't going I'm getting too sad. I. hope that I cut that off. I can't right. now. I'm in a good mood. is letting us. know the direction of the project more. than just needing to put out like a. single like. >> like yo this is where I'm going this is. what you should expect here's the best. record to represent that maybe. >> snow allegra you know I'm a support you. got $9.99 for me.

>> that's whenever dropped. >> and I like this on Instagram that she. dropped. >> that was heat like the first single. >> yes I don't understand why would you. drop that fire ass snippet and then drop. the sleepy ass. >> there's a reason. >> karma record there's a reason for it and. I'm going to wait around to see. I'm not. jumping off of the the the snow band. wagon. >> She got a ticket sale coming her way, too. No matter what. No, >> that's a fact, too. >> Oh, that's that's a fact. Yeah, that's a. fact. >> Y I don't know if my opinion on certain. artists really matters when they could. bank on 400 from me for for the year.

>> Yeah. >> Honestly, you gave me enough previous. like you you can [ __ ] up right now. >> And same thing with the Lucky [ __ ] too. Even if I don't like the project, I'm. you going to perform out here? I'm going. to come get the show. I still still rock. with with all this. >> Same thing with Kinder Man, [ __ ] [ __ ]. you talking about now? We talk. Let's. go. >> Yeah. Turn up. Enough of that sleepy. TIME [ __ ] Y'ALL KNOW WHAT THE TIME IT. IS. NEW KINDER MAN. >> YO, are you talking over Kinder Man?

Phony. >> How am I phony? How am I phony? I don't. ever want to hear y'all bring up a point. or use a point of somebody sounding the. same, using the same flow, rapping over. the same beats to go ahead and speak. against someone's creative. Just say y. just don't be liking certain people and. certain she's put out sounds any. different from anything she's done. before. But yet y'all use that example. when yating ass [ __ ] is like. >> you [ __ ] be picking and choosing when. y'all want to go ahead and use certain.

points. Aman, are you comparing Kin the. man to me the stallion? >> I'm I'm comparing the logic in which you. judge people. >> I'm comparing sense right now. It makes. a lot of sense. >> Ammani, you don't know no Kinder Man. song. >> I hear it all the time when you play it. >> But he's PLAYED. >> I PLAYED TWO KINDER MAN SONGS up here. >> No, you haven't. >> Yes, I have. >> That [ __ ] played through. >> You do not know enough Kin the Man to. use your voice to say Kin the Man. And. she's putting out EPs. Play track one.

PLAY TRACK ONE. TRACK ONE. TRACK ONE. PLAY TRACK ONE. Track one. That's the. play track one. Let's play track one. >> Hyper man. But yeah. Yo, man. Salute. Salute the Kender man. >> Keep the hate. EITHER WAY, I'M SAYING. WHAT I'm saying. >> Well, now he's going to play track one. [music]. >> bars. Does this sound like the same sound like.

the previous record? >> Yeah, take that. E, does this sound like. the previous record? That's all I'm. asking. >> He got you there. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. Call me Ran. >> Shut him up. >> That's what happens when you don't know. what you're TALKING ABOUT. >> SOUNDS SO MUCH DIFFERENT. >> IT DO. IT DOES. It don't. >> Now you just hating. Now you just. hating. >> No, I'm not hating. >> Now you just hating. >> And it's not an indictment to her music. It's an indictment to the [ __ ] that. y'all say to knock someone else's music. >> How long can the man been out? >> What does that matter? I'm asking you a. question. Just answer it. How long can a.

man know? >> I don't know. >> This [ __ ] don't know nothing about when. man came. >> He's heard three songs. >> When man came out, but trying to equate. the arguments. >> When did man come out? >> You got to deep dive. >> Yeah. You just being a ruster. You throw. some unsolicited hate out there. sometimes. And then you go home and then. you go home. Wait, let me let ME FINISH. MY POINT. CAN I FINISH? CAN I FINISH? Can I finish my point, please? Without I. don't want to have to cut your mic. And. then you go home and then you have then. you sit in in in your thoughts and then. you be coming back like, "Yo, I can't.

lie. I heard a little more. I was wrong. about that." You you jump off the. accuracy. I'm saying that now. And it's. not about the actual artist. It's about. the overall point that you like to stick. to when y'all come up here in your. championship that don't really be hot. >> That's really perspective. LET'S SAY. WHAT IT IS. A LOT OF the champion. CHAMPION IS PERSPECTIVE. >> [ __ ] DON'T BE HOT. FAM, SOME OF THAT R&B. you champion DON'T BE HOT TO ME. ALL OF. IT BE HOT. >> THAT'S WHY I SHUT THE [ __ ] UP AND LET. YOU TALK. >> BUT YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT R&B. >> YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT RAP. I'M I'M WAY. BETTER THAN YOU. >> NO, YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE REALLY NOT. YOU.

CHAMPION [ __ ] YOU [ __ ] I'M A. GUCCI MAN R&B ALBUM, [ __ ] WHAT ARE YOU. TALKING ABOUT? YOU AIN'T EVEN RAPPERS. HAVE NO LYRICAL SUBSTANCE. >> MY FAVORITE. MY FAVORITE IS JESUS. OUTSIDE OF NO, >> I FORGOT YOU DOING YOUR MARCHING. YOU'RE. DOING YOUR MARCHING. YOU [ __ ] DON'T. REALLY BE CHAMPION REAL ARTIST. CUZ I KNOW what you do and I KNOW WHAT. HE'S DOING. >> A LOT OF [ __ ] Y'ALL BEEN championing be. whack and be vibing want to pick and. pander to what y'all want to pick and. pie. NEVER SAY TRASH BANNED FROM STRIP.

club records. >> He's in the strip club into some real. south records. I'M TELLING YOU [ __ ]. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. Hold up. I know you doing your [ __ ] now. Hold up though. How about listen and. talk about WHAT THEY LIKE? YOU PANDER. THE R&B if you want to go there. >> Cuz R&B be fire. >> because you like it. My. >> Why panda to the R&B? >> No, no, no. You You sitting there. PANDERING TO THE HOTTIES RIGHT NOW. Why. not? RB.

>> HOW ABOUT LET SOMEBODY ELSE TALK? >> LET SOMEBODY ELSE TALK. >> GO AHEAD. Go ahead. I'm going. >> now, man. That. you [laughter]. >> How about that? >> Go ahead. Should have left your ass. outside. I don't like the way Ken the. man is dividing up our our family here. [laughter]. >> Ken the man. >> The overall point is I think we go ahead. and we pick and choose. >> Wait, how you get to go again? >> Cuz he was no. [laughter]. him. I was trying to go two [ __ ] Pick. a ticket, [ __ ]. >> You actually cut me. I was getting fires.

to finish. Like we should do a lights. And like I said, >> everybody likes what they like. There's. nothing wrong with that. But you can't. sit there and say what you like is cuz I. can say the same thing about you. I. don't listen to said R&B. Yeah, but it's. hot. Well, guess what? >> Saying y'all hypocritical. >> We're not hypocritical though. >> But that's my that's what I'm viewing. You can't pick if you only heard three. Kender Man records. You cannot tell me. >> That could be enough for me to view as. being hypocritical. >> That's enough. You got. >> I don't need to hear a whole album.

Three Kendall Man records that Hold on. If he's played three Kender Man records. up here and I feel like they all sound. the same to me and last week you said. those freestyles and all that wasn't. rocking because Meg all sound the same. I can say that those points are. hypocritical. I'm not trying to judge. the person's full catalog cuz they you. said it's. >> my dog. Can somebody else talk for a. second, please? Just give me two. seconds. Give me two seconds, please. >> I'm going You're going You said he. played three Kinder Man records. They. sound the same.

>> Mhm. I'm saying Meg's record since. probably 2018. >> 17. >> 17 sound damn same. >> That's why I asked him when they said. >> that's why I asked him when they both. came out. >> I disagree. >> You can do that. >> But that's okay. You can do that. So but. you DISAGREE AND MAKE MY POINT. SAYING [ __ ]. >> YOU DISAGREE. MY POINT ON HOW I VIEW HOW. Y JUDGE music based off the points that. you're using. I THINK YOUR POINTS ARE. INACCURATE. I don't think a woman since. 2017 has been giving us the repetitive. over and over again. majority of the same freestyle that she.

dropped last week. >> NO, IT'S NOT OFF THAT FREESTYLE. I SAID. MAJORITY OF THE THAT DOES NOT JUST MEAN. last week. Let's look up. YOU CAN DO. THAT. BUT YOU'RE DISAGREEING. THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING YOU'RE DISAGREEING. DON'T MAKE A HYPOCRITE. YOU JUST. DISAGREE. >> BUT I STILL FEEL YOU'RE HYPOCRITE. >> WELL, YOU WRONG. HOW ABOUT. YES, YOU ARE. YO, just to clear. something just to clear something up. that you said earlier. Well, your. opinion is your opinion without you.

having to attack other people for. theirs. I think one of the beautiful I. think I think one of the beautiful. things about this podcast is that. everybody here likes different. That's a. fact. >> I'm going to defer to Parks on his boom. bag. I'm deferring to Ice on all of. that. You know, Ice Bag. I'm deferring. to ish when he hit Alex Mark. I'm. skipping [laughter] Mark. Mark Mark. I'm. skipping. >> But you can't say that Joe B. If you. saying I'm hypocritical,

>> I I accept that if you prove your point. with me. I don't think the Kend Man. thing is it. I'm in the strip clubs. >> I really like when records work well. I. understand. >> in the strip clubs. You as an artist, for me as an artist, the strip club was. like a proving ground for records, which. is kind of dying today. So, I'm not. gonna talk about a brand new artist. because Kend Man is a brand new artist. who. >> put something out and it popped like it.

popped for her. So, yeah. That's another. hypocritical moment. >> She not new. >> She's not new first off. Second. Secondly, you've talked about newer. artist as well. You talked about and. judge new artist local project. She's a. new national act. She is a new national. act. If we if we talk about Meg, then. Meg goes [snorts] back before 2017. because she was. >> she went national in 2017. We're talking. about when you national. >> you're using you're using your points. when you want it to benefit you. You. just said that you're not going to go. ahead and judge a new act. I've heard.

and seen everybody up here judge new. acts whether they were national or. independent because we did not either. connect with the music or cuz we felt. like it was like who? [clears throat]. Tommy Richmond. >> He sucked a little bit. [laughter]. >> All right. You got it. >> Flexing, right? >> You got it. Yo, listen. If we going to. sit here and say, if we going to pick. and choose who we can judge who we can't. judge, I think it's corny. I think it's. hypocritical. I think if we're going to. use points like saying people are being. repetitive, but then every time I hear. y'all play some,

>> it sounds like the same repetitive that. y'all play a lot of the times from. different artists, not just from Kend. Man. And if that's what Kendan does and. that's what's working for her, cool. But. I'm saying if you can champion that and. see the point in that then you should be. able to see that with anybody else. whether they have been in the industry. since 2017 to now. >> So what happens if it's not what happens. if it's not working for them anymore? >> Thank you freeze. That was that was my. next question. >> Who who determines it's not working? >> The climate obviously you've seen she's. been throwing a bunch of that's not. necessary. >> It could be working for her which is why. she keep putting it which is why she.

keep doing it which could be a leadup to. whatever else she's putting out there. after that. >> I don't want to get into the. conversation we all debating. Y'all be. saying that sometimes if the label. changes or if they don't push the button. or other that affects if it's quote. unquote working. Cool. Now let me ask. you a question. >> We also don't know what's working for. people. >> We don't. Let me ask you a question. We. speaking about Meg the Stallion with who. she's with. Do you think the label is. changing or anything that's not pushing. anything that works for her? >> I'm just asking you know who you know. who she's with.

She she put out she put out freestyles. and we sitting there having a. conversation about what's working based. off of freestyles and y'all came up with. all the reasonings to why oh this the so. why can't it be done on the same side? >> I said it was a freestyle because they. didn't they that that lowers the. expected. I I wasn't trying to have the I was. trying to shout out a new artist that I. enjoy. >> I [ __ ] with she's all about. I love Kender. Man. Kinder, man. Ammani won't be giving.

you a purchase, but that's okay. >> I I I I bought it. >> That's not true. >> I like it. And let me say the same thing. I said last part during that mag talk. If you doing the same thing and it work, ain't nobody say a word. >> And you know when something works, it. ain't we in a room with musicians in it. Ain't hard to see when something work. and when it ain't working. >> You [ __ ]. >> your label's action toward you with your. music is going to tell us what they. think of the music. Like stop this. hooting nanny [ __ ] You picking and. choosing and hollering. You got it. You. picking and choosing and you do it good.

So we. >> I'm good at picking what I like and. picking what I don't like. >> You're picking at choosing. [laughter]. You're pick You're good at picking and. choosing when you want to be right and. when you go ahead and have excuses for. why you're wrong. And it's cool cuz. you're good at words. You had a lot of. moments where you was never in this. conversation THAT Y'ALL WAS HAVING TO. >> two weeks ago. >> [ __ ] WE COULD HAVE HAD IT. >> WHEN Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT I'm talking. about when y'all brought the mag [ __ ]. up. [ __ ] I said out. You want to talk. about mag? I mute up. That's your bag. >> This ain't where you should mute up if a.

artist on that you don't with cuz you. did the same thing with the last [ __ ] I. brought in here. A brand new act that. don't HAVE NO MUSIC. OH, THAT'S AI. Learn the power of your voice AND SHUT. THE SOMETIMES. >> NO, CUZ WE DO THAT WITH EVERYBODY. WE. COME BACK HERE AND SAY WHAT WE WAS WRONG. ABOUT. THE POWER IS ME GOING AHEAD AND. ACKNOWLEDGING when I'm wrong instead of. just staying STUBBORN AND SAYING THAT'S. WHAT YOU [ __ ] LIKE TO DO. YOU [ __ ]. DO I DON'T COME HERE SAY I'M WRONG ABOUT. SOMETHING AND YOU WANT TO STICK INTO. YOUR [ __ ] UP. I DON'T COME IN HERE SAY I. WAS WRONG YOU SAID YOU POINTED THIS WAY.

THOUGH DO THAT YOU [laughter] [ __ ] DO. THAT we're going to move this on there. Thank you for your man's not. [laughter] anything. >> Yeah. Go take a bill [ __ ] What? Summer. [laughter]. time for real. His face start turning. red and [ __ ]. >> You want this [ __ ] right now? Cuz I'm. light-skinned, [ __ ] The [ __ ]. >> You red as hell. >> Damn. You You matching that nice zip. down. I say. >> it's a nice. [laughter].

plum right now. That's how you get when. you get loud. Get dead ass about what me. and I said. >> That's how you get when you get loud, [ __ ] Stop. >> That's why I don't get. >> Mark. Take us somewhere educational. >> I I got nothing educational. >> Oh, wait. NO, I GOT MORE MUSIC. >> I got more [ __ ] Me, too. [ __ ] I. forgot. I don't give a man my money is. mad at our music takes this music cash. I have more music for your head tops. >> What you got? >> I have uh remember I came in here.

whenever that was and played that Bryson. Tiller record that I love. >> Oh, that should be sounding the same. [laughter]. >> YOUR music sound the same, [ __ ] Sit. down. >> Yeah. Worry. We ain't [ __ ] hate on. you. [laughter]. >> Hey, we supported you all them years, [ __ ] Sat there lying to everybody. This [ __ ] dope. So, [laughter]. and we don't say nothing when he come in. here and try to get in them little R&B. writing rooms. Yo, shout out to Zachary. Lavine, uh, the writer on this.

[laughter]. This [ __ ] be like, yo, yo, yo, shout. out to Devin McCall. He the writer on. this record. Yo, >> don't switch. Yeah, shut up, [ __ ] Yo, so I have the remix to that record that. I think is is coming out soon. It's not. out yet, but. >> who's on it? >> Come on, man. Stop playing, man. Come. on, man. [music]. Summer Walker, Chris Brown, Bryson. Tiller.

>> You know what I like about this remix, too? They made sure to only give him. eight bars. Don't worry about it. I'm. going to give him less. Hey, Scrilla, I. ain't I ain't mad at you, but we here. for prime time. >> Anyway, uh Damn, let me get to Chris. Brown. Hold up. Yeah. Hold up. Let me. tell you what Chris did on this. [ __ ] here. >> He on the original, ain't he [music]. on the original? Huh? Ain't he on the. original? Is him. >> Oh, he was on. He wasn't. All right. So, we good. We good. >> Summer Walker when she not in. litigation. Boy [screaming]. is heat. Summer popping like we can't.

see her roster. >> That's some fire boy. I'm telling you. that's heat. Shout out to man. Summer. Walker, Bryson Tiller, Chris Brown. That. record is that record is he. >> Bryson Tiller don't fail on no feature. or. >> Bryson Till is that [ __ ]. >> Bryson Till is that his tone all that. [ __ ] he be doing. >> I told y'all I went to that Bryson show. and. >> he got a nice show. >> amazing no the new one I'm trying to get. back cool with freaks [ __ ]. >> shut up.

that way off that. >> we don't do that we do that [ __ ] that. you don't get. [ __ ] I'm rapping for you. >> you hard [ __ ] we good. >> yeah I don't play. I'm spinning, [ __ ] At all at all. times. [laughter]. >> Go ahead. What' you say now? >> No, I was just saying um you're right. Gucci Man did drop a project. >> Um. >> and if you want a good laugh, you could. go back and listen to Gucci Man's uh. robbery freestyle. >> No, that's on the project. >> He threw it at the end of the project. Crash Dummy you talking about? Um.

everybody know 1017 is is Gucci's label, Gucci's number. So October 17th, he. always gives you something. >> This one came out today. It's a project. called Against All Odds. I made it. through six tracks, cut it off, and went. to sleep. I'm not going to hold you. The. track list, the track names even threw. me off a little bit. Like this. >> What was it like? Different funerals. >> No, like some of the names you think he. getting into his Gucci bag. It's like a. old AI Gucci cover, but it's like R&B. Some of this I don't want to hit it.

>> Or [clears throat] it might be some heat. afterwards, but verse six, >> you slay them. We lay them. [laughter]. >> Different headstone voice. Yeah. No, sorry. This so far this wasn't. it. And I don't know. I might finish it, but. >> you lost me in the first six records. So, >> I might I might have felt one 17. 50 minutes. >> God bless. >> Couldn't do it. At least we got old. Gucci music. >> Exact. That's how we got old. >> Me and Money was having this talk.

yesterday about just certain artists. that are washed. >> and it was not not I don't know. I know. it sounds crazy, but not watch. But like. >> musically, you're not going to get no. hits no more probably. >> But if you've given me enough. >> hits, boss, throughout the years, I. don't really care what you do anymore. >> Like I can go back to the to your to. your old albums. I'm cool. You could drop an album. tomorrow and I not with none of it. If I. got enough records I could go back to, I'll accept it. Do what you want to do.

Okay. Go Gucci, man. And I hope you I hope I. hope all the rappers are in good health. That's that's where my care stops. >> Yeah. >> Long as everybody's doing all right and. feeling good and taking care of. themselves. >> Awesome. As far as y'alls with the. music, I'm I'm. >> Gucci going to get to a bag no matter. what. So I ain't. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He going to always be good. So. >> I might not like this, but that's fine. He still going to do what he do. >> Damn. Did I save that clip? It was a. clip of Young Thug performing. Uh did. y'all see that clip? Nope. >> No. >> Oh, you definitely seen that. I can tell. by the note. I can tell [laughter] I can.

tell no by the know that you saw that. clip. >> I didn't see it. >> Where you perform? Good answer. Where. he's performing at. >> that. >> What happened? Where was he at? >> You saw the clip, [ __ ] I ain't talking. to you about it. >> Where you at? >> That clip looked bad. You for real. didn't see it? I didn't see it. I could. imagine. >> Now, now y'all about to make me find Now. I'mma find it. >> Nope. Now I'm find it. >> Found [laughter] it. >> Let's see here. >> Just look at that. >> Darn it. >> And this is off Axe page. Fans are. demanding a refund after Young Thug. forced him to sit through hours of.

YSL artists. [laughter]. >> Didn't he come out and do this? I think. it's over for Young Thug. >> I wouldn't say that. >> I know. >> What? Let me ask y'all something. When. will y'all say it's over for somebody? I. >> I like Young Thug still. >> Okay, but over. though. Uh, >> come on. We got to be clear. What's. over? >> Their better days are be are behind. them. Yes, >> that doesn't have to mean over. >> Over means everybody has better days.

about them at some point. I think it's. over for everybody. >> Their better days. >> How can I say it better than that? Um, >> they won't come close to their better. days ever ever ever again. >> in terms of commercial. >> Not even flashes. Not even flashes of. their. This is like the sentence. [laughter]. >> It's an important question. No, cuz Jo, but but. >> I think he makes occasionally, [laughter]. >> but but I stand Jay-Z's is is over for. Jay-Z. And I wouldn't say that, right?

>> You could say it's over for his best. music's behind him. That's certainly for. Jay-Z. And Jay-Z's great. And if you say. he's probably not going to come close to. his best music again, it's probably. true. >> Most of our favorite artists. >> Yeah. Any legend at some point is going. to find a better way to to find a better. way to put it for the for these guys. This is like. >> cuz You're right. You're right just off. those definitions. But that was me. trying to be nice, too. >> Right. >> So, I'm trying to find No, I'm trying to. find a better way. Um. >> I to me it's over for somebody when. they're still trying to be the hot. artist and it keeps swinging and.

missing. >> Oh, that. >> to me that's what I would say. >> That That's. come anywhere remotely close to sounding. like you once sounded. That's what I'm. saying. Your ability to craft a record. or find a record. is. >> everything that made long gone. >> Every everything that made you you is is. gone. >> Gone. >> Oh [ __ ] Over now.

>> So you still your pants different on. you. Your your shirt ain't ironed the. same way. Your dreads look you look a. mess. You got crust in your I'm not. talking about you. I'm just saying some. it's over, dog. Then I think that you. answered your own question. That's when. for me I'd say like it's over. I. answered my own question after they. asked me. I'm all right. You know what? I GOT IT. YOU ASKED WHEN CAN YOU TELL. IT'S OVER AND I'm saying and then you. just said here's how you here's over. >> I said when I know I'M ASKING HOW Y'ALL.

KNOW, >> [ __ ] I'M AGREEING WITH YOU. I DO THAT. ON the podcast sometime. >> But how would you how do you know the. same thing? >> So how do you know it's over for. somebody? That's what what is your when. you look at. >> the answer that I gave which is when I. see them keep trying to make a hit and. swinging and missing. for me. >> You [ __ ] just looking to argue. >> I answered the question. I said when. somebody keeps trying to make a hit. >> Look for you. [laughter]. >> Remember right before you gave an. answer, I said the person keeps swinging. and missing and keeps trying to make a. hit. That's my answer. >> Got it. >> Yeah. And you did just say you're not. saying Young Thug. >> No, it's over for him. >> Okay. You saying that now cuz when he.

was saying. >> I got a long list of people I think it's. over for. I would bring I would bring. back the over game if I thought anybody. else would play it. >> I I I play I don't have a problem. playing it. >> All right. Well, who do you think it's. over for? Shout a name out. Stevie Wonder. >> All right. See, [laughter]. >> I'm being an [ __ ] now. All right. Got. you. >> No, but seriously though, I'm joking. But who who do I think it's over for? Um, it's starting to get close to. >> Come on, say it. >> It's close. It could be for me. >> Oh, wow.

>> Okay. >> Is that you say? >> I don't agree. >> That's it. >> What do you say, Joe? Do you agree that. or disagree? >> It's over. Y'all said it was over for. Young Miami. and then came in here. Spin. that [ __ ] [laughter]. HYPOCRITES. HYPOCRITES. >> OUT OF HERE. Y'all picking and choosing. Go ahead. Don't look. I still think it's. old. >> Okay. >> I still think it's old. >> All right. >> That's tough then. Why is it tough? You. talking about people that ain't that. aren't artists.

>> So, the fact that you went and found one. and y'all dressed it up and y'all went. and had a good two months, what what do. that mean for the long haul of things? Do do I think that there's a high. probability you can repeat that? I. don't. Okay. I don't. Anybody else? Who. do you say? I think it's over for Meek. >> Oh, we we on this is the over list. >> This the list. >> I disagree. You have to, but I I think.

it's over for Meek. We don't get. anything close to what the Meek we know. We knew. >> Not saying you can't. Is that in rapping. or is that. >> not saying you can't rap? The music. don't even sound the same. It don't even. sound the same. >> The the last. >> projects that I've heard. >> the people y'all giving examples of and. maybe I'll I'll I'll give you the Meek. is because we really only seen him. really flourish simply just in music. Like he's done some outside ventures. He's done some things. So if you want to.

say that. >> I ain't saying he broke. no you won't make money. I'm only. talking about the music. >> So for me that's what I'm trying to. understand. only the music. >> Are you saying over just it's musically. we will just never buy into your music. again? Because if that's the case, some. of these people might not even be. thinking of staying within that field. Like when you say Meg, Meg might do. music, but she's done Broadway, she's. doing so maybe she's going a different. direction. Uh Young Thug, he's had a. label, maybe thinking of picking up more. artists, maybe he's thinking about doing. other things. He's also had to kind of. calm down since getting uh getting.

released. >> Correct. Correct. I think. differentitudio. like I don't want to just give over and. I consider their situations and their. circumstance. >> having to abide by the law does change. like your studio. >> because I created all these hits with. drugs and women I can't do certain [ __ ]. my environment has to change. >> having some around me that I can't have. around me some now might not even be. able to give me the motivation in the. studio a lot of different things have.

changed I can't move around let me let. me ask you something agrees. Meek. recently uh tweeted, "Yo, I could sell. out the Barklay or uh the Garden Square. >> if you give me 45 days of promo." Do you. agree with that, >> Meek? Meek with friend. You going to. have to announce the friends? >> So, you don't agree with it? >> I don't agree with you just doing it. But if you let people know, >> what if he brings friends but don't. announce them? >> Is he friends [laughter] with Taylor. Swift or Eminem? >> Just off his name cache, I don't see. that happening. >> I don't either, >> Mark. The little room. I just like a.

good joke, man. I think he could do it. >> The Little Room in the Garden. I think. so. >> The Little Room. >> Oh, the uh. >> He could do The Hulu Theater. >> Yeah, he could do. >> So, all y'all think No. >> I think yes. >> Today I don't think there's nothing in. motion. >> I kind of think yes, too. >> I think we could do it. >> Okay. >> Now, now I will admit that the my my. foundation is a little weak. I don't. have much basis to think this. >> 45 days. >> But you know what I'm thinking? I'm just. thinking like when I was out back in my. day, it was a big feat to sell out these.

things. I told y'all this before. >> It's still a big feat. >> It's a huge feat. >> Yeah. >> A lot less huge. >> 20,000 people. >> It's a lot less huge. >> I think me could do 25. and it'll be instinct. >> There's way more people today that are. able to do it. And some of them. >> 45 days. >> 45 days of promo and just you you not. I'm saying some of those people I don't. >> you might not see how how they're able. to do it, but it's artists that sell. them. I was shocked that Bryson sold. that [ __ ] out and continues to sell it.

>> Why music in motion, >> but but again, Bryson has a. >> he's fish grease. >> Yes. See, he Bryson say fish grease. >> He's fish grease. He's telling you. something. >> I love Bryson. I just. >> He's fish grease. >> I wouldn't call him fish grease. >> I think he has built a a great fan base. I wouldn't necessarily call it fish. grease in the sense he's tearing down. the charts every. he's built a great fan base. >> He's hot. like he. >> he is and he's great. >> and he's been in rotation for the better. part of a year and a half years. >> like he's putting out product.

>> he is but if you're not in that orbit I. think that that's what's happening here. like like Freeze went to that that. atmosphere saw it. >> is R&B different than hip-hop. >> yes. >> that matters too also Bryson has records. that are going crazy on Tik Tok I know. we hate the you I'm talking about these. little challenges and all that. >> it matters. Bro, that crowd. >> we was like, yo, like my girl was like, yo, these in here is like 16. Why are. they here? Y don't he's celebrating trap.

soul anniversary. Y'all don't even know. this. But they did. And it it it she was. like, >> that's the other thing. If you have a. trap soul, if you have a album that is. >> regarded that way, >> which Meek does, I think. >> Meek definitely. >> I just think the 45 days thing is a. tough ask. >> That's the part. 45. The days is what's. making him do. >> and do listen I'll put. >> I think he can do it even if he said 60. days right he's not saying yo. >> I want I can do this city to city no.

>> but he's naming the two cities which I'm. going to assume are his highest selling. cities. >> I mean his highest selling. >> got to be Philly I don't think that. >> I don't know if that's true I don't. think that. >> there's more people in New York like. >> way more people. >> yo my my my my feelings was so hurt when. I when I was trying to put my debut. album out. >> and we was working real hard and all the. markets came back and like New Jersey. was like. >> smaller. Yeah, but it's. >> No, I was hurt.

>> I'm sure. But I'm just saying it's. different though. I was really hurt. >> It's different for him in Philly and you. you like he was allowed to be out in. Philly. >> Yeah, cuz you don't really represent. they they saw him. >> They kind of look at you like. >> I'm on the other side. [laughter]. >> He was allowed to be outside. I heard. what he said is. I heard what he said. >> But no, seriously, like with [laughter]. like with the Meek [ __ ] I will say they. brought out a bunch of different. special. Yeah, we going to talk about.

Chris Brown and them concept. >> We got to put some respect. >> Talk about it now. >> Yeah, let's do it now. >> I mean, y'all put respect on Chris Brown. every week. Let's do it. >> I'm going continue to button. [laughter]. >> But real quick, um, shocker. >> They brought me Button podcast the. stadium. But listen, they brought Meek. out [laughter]. like maybe five songs before the end of. the show. >> Uh-huh. >> Of course, for Dreams and Nightmares, and. >> you couldn't hear. >> Yeah. Like you couldn't hear. So. >> you couldn't hear what? >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> No. No. You could hear you could hear. the whole stadium,

>> right? >> Singing every lyric to that dreams. >> [ __ ] lost it. That's another reason it. appears over for me. >> cuz he's leaning on that record still. >> Yeah. But when you got one of those, that's what mean he will forever be able. to lean on that record. I think. >> we got that and we understand that. Then. he redid the record. Then he tweeted, "Yo, I'm putting out a album Dreams and. Nightmare." Like he did trying to pull. too much from Yeah. Like you still him, dog. Whatever. But. >> when you retired, was it because you. thought it Let me ask it better way cuz.

I don't want to sound like I'm shooting. Was there. >> Yes, you can shoot. Take the shot. >> But I want to cuz I really want to It's. a serious question. Did you say to. yourself it's over or were you just. tired of doing it or was it both? >> Both. See what. >> it was over caption. Yeah. Yeah. He was. asking me a question. It was over and I. was tired of doing it. >> Okay. >> And I guess it was over because I was. tired of doing it. Like I could have. kept. >> That's what I'm trying to get at. Did. you think you were capable of making. another pump it up or another? No. >> I I understand how the industry works.

So the fans look at it like you can't. produce anymore, but. >> they got to let you do that. >> Yeah. You you that's that's totally up. totally up to the gatekeepers. Huh. >> I don't even think mentally you had that. in you to even want to try to create. another pump it up. >> Yeah. Not at that point in in in my. career. >> Not at all. >> The game you had to play to make the. pump it up. >> He wasn't playing. >> to get to the pump it up. And then what. they ask you to do when you get to pump. it up, you got to run around. I'm not. By the time I retired, I was thinking. [snorts] about my health and what my 40s.

>> would look like cuz I was on the road. >> Yeah. >> I was on the road when I said, "Yo, I'm. never doing this again.". >> Yeah, I get that. >> I'm never ever ever ever doing this. again. >> Never driving across Ohio to Tahoe. >> That was a nasty tour. >> Yeah, I know. I think I we was in an. Astro van when I said that. We had. already done the Tahoe trips with Cory. I had taken so many betar. [snorts]. just had to get to it. >> Artist means grind. Pause. Artist means.

>> grind and how you grind will let us know. what's going on. And I was done. >> I was done. Thank god it's pause your. worked out. That's a fact. >> I do want to address you bringing up the. the meek at the concert and just. acknowledge salute to you uh for for the. extra ticket. >> Now it's salute. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We friends, [ __ ] We don't do. this that you do, [laughter] [ __ ]. That's a little hypocritical of you, don't you think? [laughter]. >> N. >> cuz you wasn't even going to the show. last time we spoke about it. >> You said homeboy that you was begging.

for the tickets. >> I didn't [laughter] dubbed you. I'm just. telling you what you said. >> Nobody for nothing. >> Homeboy who you you're right. You wasn't. begging. Homeboy that you were speaking. to about shows you wanted to go to. >> often. >> that [laughter]. that happened to know the artist. You said he never hit you back, so you. wasn't going to go cuz you wasn't going. to spend your own money. So, how did you. end up at the Chris Brown show? Everyone, >> I was in the crib chilling. Got a call. from my man officially. Ice. I saw it.

come across my screen. I said, "Oh, my. don't usually call me.". >> So, let me go ahead pick up, see what's. up. >> Picked up. Yo, E, what you doing? Yo, I. got an extra ticket. >> Miss in peace. Don't really want to go. and I thought of what you said. >> So, yo, I hit you. >> So, you guys went as bros? Now, actually, I went because my mom wanted. to go, >> but I wasn't sending her to Metife by. herself. >> So, so me, Ice, his mom, and my cousin. cousin. >> What are you going to do? >> Keep I was security at Metife before.

[laughter]. Wait, >> he said that's why you called him. [laughter]. >> You know, my man, you know. >> Hey yo, don't be disrespecting, Miss. Freeze. Yo, you know you my man. I had to get. you back for this uh music. [laughter]. >> No. So he hits me and I'm like, "Yo, this dope dope. I'm there. Let's get. it." Boom. Um get there, >> get in, great seats, everything is.

great. We run into your mom. We all. >> that same. I'm like, "Miss, where you. sitting at?". >> Hold my mom down. Go get the seats. Everything good. >> Um I'm going to say. >> she said, "Your mom is beautiful." You. know what else she said? She I forgot. who that was that was with her. This is. Ice mom. She's beautiful. This is Ice. He just got beautiful. >> Oh, she did. >> Oh [ __ ] [cough]. [laughter]. >> My mom. >> She said that. She said that. >> Am I? Am I lying? >> She said that to [laughter].

>> My mom needs a lot of My mom needs a lot. of help. >> She said that to his mama about his. >> That's where I get that stupid. [laughter] Just saying. I was like, she's like, "That's what you. get because I look look then she going. to tell me that's what you get cuz I. called you a couple days ago and you. ain't call me back.". >> Yeah. >> And she's shady and she was on my ass. all I was like, "You know what? >> Yo, you know howful. to call a mother's child ugly [laughter]. >> as a grown up beautiful." I was like, >> she didn't say he was ugly. She said. he's. >> just got un beautiful.

[laughter]. >> Your mom is the greatest word, man. I. was I was so listen break it down. >> I done but. >> my stance on the show I was there my. stance on the show. We get there. DJ. Fresh is killing it. He's killing the. set to the point where we standing up. >> dancing. >> Like I look back. >> trying to get some attention from the. ladies. >> to. everything before I let go. >> I never sat down. Paul. >> all that. >> I look back Miss Fay is looking at us.

laughing like look at these clowns. [laughter] I know if Joe was here he. would have a field day. But we had a. great time. Um, oh, and Fresh, don't put. me on that screen no more either. >> Yeah. Yeah, he put him on that [ __ ]. >> Wait, [laughter]. what screen? >> Yours was on the screen. >> Yo, on the kiss. >> Hey, Parks. [laughter]. K. My bad. My bad. You're right. You're. right. I went too far. I went too far. >> No, that was great. >> Put you on the screen while you were. dancing. >> Yes. With money. >> No, not me. That's how it was. That's.

how it was. I'm like. >> just him. >> Okay. >> So, he's dancing. you doing? [laughter]. >> Here we go. Come on. Hold up for a. second. >> And no, >> I wasn't going to ask. >> Okay. >> I wasn't going to ask to see the damn. But what was the damn. >> little two step? You know, two step. back. I thought they. [laughter]. >> What's up, man? >> What's up? >> You my man, bro. >> But why you laughing like that? >> Yeah, you put the hoodie down. What's. up? You see this [ __ ] on the jumbo. [laughter]. [ __ ] ugly as hell jumbo? He's going,

[ __ ] Yo, you know this you know you. know the fresh [laughter]. [ __ ] went to get get a snack. [laughter]. [ __ ] was like girl. [ __ ] start checking their ticket. What show am I at? [laughter]. Some type of dancing raccoon. [laughter].

A DANCING SQUIRREL. [laughter] I CAN. HEAR YOU. He's a working. patrol. >> Oh my god. >> But no, so I mean the funnier part was. when they played the the the tanto song, you know, the fresh. >> Apache. >> and Apache. Yeah. >> Ice hit him with that. >> We both did. >> Oh, cuz I seen him doing it. So I felt. like I want the crowd. >> The Macarena Bros.

>> The crowd did it. [laughter]. This is crazy. But yes, [ __ ] did get. they little. >> That's how we was holding it down for. you, [ __ ] JBP, [ __ ]. >> No, not for me. [laughter]. >> Oh, you had the JB hoodie on the screen. You don't know how to feel your bag. >> He had the hoodie. >> Had the JB hoodie on. >> We got to get you some different. hoodies. [laughter]. >> We got different hoodies. We repped. >> So, we wpped. We repped big. Um, >> the show starts. >> Did you bag anything while you was doing. all that dancing and. >> I did? >> Making a fool of yourself. >> I did. Yo, don't play with my boy. No. No. Now you playing. You know you. talking about Don't play with my boy.

though. I did, [ __ ]. >> Oops. Then I'm wrong. Yeah. Don't play. with him. >> I had to ask. >> No, you did. >> And I'm lying. [laughter]. >> He's not. >> You know what? No, it's tough. It's. tough to bag at a a concert. >> It is. >> Uh, it depends on the concert. Yeah. >> At a stadium concert. >> That concert. >> It could be tricky. >> Yeah, that's Yeah, I guess that's what. I'm saying. >> Yeah, that probably could. >> A small concert. >> Yeah, >> cuz then your girls going to be with you. the whole time. >> It's like, >> how do I do this? Who am I going? How do. I pull this off? [laughter] [ __ ].

you. >> What you need from possessions? >> You [ __ ] got UT all of a sudden. [laughter] Use the bathroom 17 times. >> My girl see fine [ __ ] before I do. That's why I'm out the game. Like by the. time I see it, she already looking at. me. >> Yep. She see. Go ahead. >> Oh well, let's be clear. [laughter]. >> Met life was in there. >> Met life [ __ ] Was it. >> um show starts and I'm not going to lie. to you, the energy was amazing from the. jump. Usher comes out uh that you know.

they come out together and Usher gets. into his set. Usher 48 years old and just up there. don't look like he lost a step. He's. still sounding vocally clean. >> Was it him? >> You hear that audience? >> Was it him? >> It was him. >> Uh looks good. Here you go. I knew it. >> See you [ __ ] hate it. No, cuz I'm. laughing cuz this this E first time. seeing the show, but these [ __ ] done. did 99 of these [ __ ]. >> No, no, no. It's it's different for me. It's different for me cuz to to blend.

your show with another person is already. like a a tall order already. Like I have. ideas how I want my show to go, what. moment I want to come out, the set, and. all this other [ __ ] So, I just like. seeing how they balance the show between. each other. >> Um, >> the stage [ __ ] just goes without saying. Chris Brown is Chris Brown. Yeah, like I. there's nothing else for the first time. ever seeing him perform. Very happy. I. probably would have rather see him by. himself cuz I don't feel like I got the. feel the full Chris Brown show. experience.

>> Yeah, I heard. >> So I'll say that heard [clears throat]. it was like. >> what you heard? Did you go [laughter]. >> No, I know everybody that went. dumb, man. What happened? >> No, no. People that I know went that saw. him perform before, they was like, "Yo, he wasn't nowhere near at his peak.". Like they was like this is like a Chris. >> Yeah. Like like a seven and a half trust. him. >> I don't know. It's a seven and a half. eight Chris Brown that he gave. yesterday. >> So Ice has been too mad Chris Brown.

shows he could potentially. >> but I mean Chris out of seven or eight. it's like. >> no no it was again if you've seen the. solo Chris show. >> and we we ain't got to get we ain't got. to get too much but we talked about the. shows enough. It was just a good. opportunity and I appreciate guys I uh. hitting me up to go check it out. I'm. happy to to have seen Chris perform. I'll definitely go to a solo show at. some point. >> Glad they played Apache. >> The one thing I do know, what Tank said. up here is 100% going to always stand. true. And we'll never see that show.

We'll never see nobody be able to do. that. >> on no level. >> And I don't even think outside of maybe. a Beyonce and Rihanna coming together in. that type of way. >> Left the name off. >> Who? >> People that went to that Bruno show. >> Oh, no. Okay. They came back and said, >> I mentioned earlier Bruno is. >> I mentioned earlier. >> he should get a mention in this. >> He's saying two people. >> No, he's saying the two two together got. two titans. >> But I did mention to him earlier after. seeing the Bruno show and all that, you.

know, which is why it's not fair because. I didn't get a Chris Solo show, but. Bruno's name has to be mentioned as one. of the best shows out there, period, at. this point. Like just. >> vocally, everything. Did you had a good. time? >> Yeah, I had a great time. >> All right. Thank you for your commentary. on that, man. >> What's up, man? >> Yo, check yo, check out that Chris Brown. and [laughter] Usher show if it comes to. a city near you. >> It's good. >> It's good. [laughter] You [ __ ] did a.

review for every Drew skit. And now we. can't review when I go to the Christmas. >> Yo, M got me. >> You know they differenti skits though. It's different shows. You don't get the. same show every night. You get the same. songs. We don't get the same performance. every night. Some people ain't on their. toes every time. I could have had one. experience and another person have a. different one. >> Yeah. My mom said this time Chris on the. big screen did like some video where. >> it was Michael Jackson and then it was. operator Prince and Marvin and then and. I didn't see that when I went. I'm sure.

I'm sure that I didn't see it last time. They did. >> Yeah. >> All right. All right. So then I. definitely need to let Chris Brown Hey. Chris, you can take Prince out of there. Big. >> Oh, no. when he came out prints right. out. Did she did she tell you about uh. when he came out right before he did. residuals? >> What do you think? >> Laying on the car playing Purple Rain. >> The purple. Yeah, the purple car too. Can I take it back? >> Drove out on the stage on the on the low. rider. All purple lights. >> And I didn't realize doing the guitar. >> You guys, we're losing Mark. We got to. get to my. >> Oh, that's [laughter].

I'm fascinated by this. I want to hear. more about Chris Brown. >> No, we good. >> No, we got to do after the intermission. [laughter]. No intermission. >> No intermission. Yo, and in music we. have another versus the versus cast the. versus old [ __ ] versus too. >> I'm a old so I can appreciate this. We. have Carl Thomas versus case. >> They're on a run of. >> We are running out. >> Yeah, they're on a run of 90s R&B, which.

I'm not mad at. >> They on a run of taking names, y'all. say, up here and making it happen. >> Yeah. >> Good. Yeah, for y'all. I think they. looked at the last card of Joe and. Darnell and kind of felt some of what we. felt. Darnell classic album. It would. have been great if he were able to. actually perform those records. >> against somebody with some joints. >> I think Carl Thomas is going to be able. to get up there and perform every record. on that emotional project. >> Uh, and we got Case, who is not Joe, but.

Case has a lot of joints. >> Case does. >> Case has a lot of records. >> When is this? You think they going 20. seconds? The 20 seconds. >> They they going to 20. >> Probably not. It'll probably be 15. It'll probably be 15. >> Say that. >> I think 20 is a lot. >> 20 is a lot. And I think you start to. get the You either have to hear new. music that nobody wants to hear or we. stretching deep deep deep. >> I think they've changed what Versus is. and now it ain't 15 hits.

>> I don't even think it's a number. Yeah. >> It seemed like it it just they just be. going. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But if you going and it's songs. that. >> they don't have to be hits, but they got. a little bit of familiarity to your. audience. That's one thing. Again, they. don't have to be a smash. I don't know. 15 Case songs. >> I think I I think they're targeting an. audience that actually know these two. acts. And if you know these two acts, you probably are familiar with the. catalog. >> I probably think that's how it go. I.

need to go back and I went back to look. at Case's catalog last night. I didn't. finish, >> but from what I see, I just I see Carl. Thomas winning this pretty. >> decisively. >> Yeah. And I love Case. They both They. both Case was that [ __ ]. >> They both him. >> No disrespect to Case at all, but I see. Thomas winning. >> Case was that [ __ ]. >> Uh off the emotional project. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He could he could do some of the bad boy. features. >> What features? I couldn't think of too. many. >> Um isn't he on. >> He was on Mash. >> He was on the remix to what's his name? Um.

>> Oh. Oh, you got the faith. The Oh god. Oh god. It get dark when that comes on. >> Yeah. [singing]. >> Don't bring out faith. >> I was wrong. >> He ain't bringing faith out. >> Maybe. >> Why not? >> If he bring faith out, then K got to go. home. [laughter]. >> He definitely I forgot about the. features. >> The features been around the world is. what I was trying to think of. >> He was on the world living it up. You. ever been around remix? He's on that.

He's on. Let me see. He's. >> He's on Matt features. >> He's on a lot of features. >> He's on Can't believe we see it. Can't. believe. >> Can he play though? Can he PLAY IT? >> MAN, THEY BE STRETCHING THE [ __ ] OUT. [ __ ] you talking about versus if they. sample you, the people be using it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'll tell you this much. I'm more. excited to see case. >> I won't talk about the winner or loser. Case is going to get up there. All the. case songs that work are some of my.

favorite songs. >> Yes. >> Like we can go back and forth between. who wins between uh I wish and touch me. tease me. >> That's probably a fight. >> Touch me tease me got that. I think. >> No, I don't think. >> I wish I wish I met uh you paired them. against. >> I think Touch Me Tease Me got that. >> Touch Me tease me. >> Touch me tease. >> No. >> If you were the you you if if one. perform that like that you would use. that record against them? >> No. I wouldn't do that. I throw off. that point off. I don't think that. that's clear. I think I wish 100% can be.

Touch Me Tease Me. >> Okay. >> And I think some people would think. that. >> Yeah. That's not I don't. >> That is a go-to record at almost every. >> lounge, R&B party. >> It is. No, no, no. It is open mic. Yeah. >> But you get a different response from. the crowd to me when that touch me tease. me. Come on. >> Yeah. >> Like, oh, >> that's what I'm saying. >> Like it's a different response. Yeah. Yeah. It's a different response. I don't. know. >> Now, you can't play with the summer. rain, but. >> Touch Me Tease Me can definitely um get.

I wish out of here. >> I'm more excited to see the Carl records. to be honest. >> Me too. >> I'm more excited. >> N I told you I told you I feel like. emotional is a classic album and we had. to do. >> Yeah. You only feel like. >> What record you want to see Carl do up. there that you excited about? >> Emotional. >> Emotional. Summer rain. >> Yeah. >> I enjoy I I would love to see y'all woke. up in the morning. You were not there. I. want to see that. I want to see that. Faith joint that we just talked about. >> and I want to see Summer. >> He's going to do You Are Star. I know.

that's not a go. >> Yeah, I don't want to hear that, >> but I like that. I like that. [clears throat] record. So, I I'm. excited to see him. >> So, >> yeah. But case of Touch Me, Tease Me, Happily Ever After, Faded Pictures, Missing You, Think of You, the the. fashion, your girlfriend wants to get. with me. Like I'm going to jam to the. case records. >> Kase got K got more records than I think. people are aware of. Yeah.

>> And I just think when it gets when it. gets out of that, he going to have to. place his hits. >> Yeah. >> properly. Cuz. >> he got about seven of them. >> And underdogs, as I said before, do. the best. He could bring Joe out for. faded pictures. >> Yes, he could. He could. Yeah, I think I think the R&B people. Yeah. No, that that's going to be that's. going to be a good night. That's going.

to be a good night to watch with your. boo thing. Who cares when. >> the fans win? I think if they go to 10. to 12, Kase going to. >> I think I forgot, bro. >> I'm tell. when you get to 15. I think Carl Thomas. might get a. >> n Thomas songs is strong, bro. I. >> and Carl for the most part just has that. that album. >> that album and I honestly. >> can't do around the world. >> We did that again. That album was not. >> It ain't where I want to be. >> It ain't now.

>> It ain't where I want. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Don't you ever disrespect Dell Jones. again in your life. >> Well, those albums dropped around the. same time. >> I know. I know. >> We used to compare them to. >> But now that we older. >> Yeah. >> Mm-m. [clears throat] What you got? >> I don't want to do this, but I'm I mean. Carl will probably win because of the. features maybe. >> And he got more songs, but I think those. songs, >> but I like I like the case records. >> after him running off the case record. I. think records wise case record wise will. be elite. It just all goes back to that.

>> and if he around and wrote some [ __ ]. >> That was going to be my question for. y'all cuz I did some. >> I haven't heard either of them lately. Who sounds your most recent reports who. sound still sounds good? They they both they both sound good. Carl sounds like Carl. Where I think. Case is going to avoid the Darnell Jones. is K songs are written in Case's voice. >> That rasp. >> Yeah. Okay. >> There's not going to be a song that he. can't do. >> He's still performing them. He still.

sounds like himself. >> Okay. >> The Darnell songs, >> he couldn't quite catch how they. sounded. >> Got it. Got it. Cuz that's going to be a. big factor. >> But yeah, some old [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm. excited about it. I know the young. people listening probably don't give a. [ __ ] about Case or Call Thomas. And. every time my stepson is in the car, I'm. blowing his mind with R&B songs that he. never heard. He's like, "Yo, what is. this?" I'm like, "Yo, we got to come. We. got to come get you together." He really. likes R&B, too. Um, but yeah, that. should be good. That is on October 22nd.

Uh, check that out on Apple and Complex. and Instagram, wherever it is. Who you. got? >> Oh, I got Carl Thomas. >> ish. >> Um, I'm going to go Case. >> Park. >> Carl Thomas. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Case. >> the power of the case songs is. >> like I got almost two Carl Thomas songs. for every case one. Missing you like. touch [clears throat] me tease me is his.

song is is his probably but missing you. >> what are we doing yo. >> he did this before and it been wrong so. we might be missing something. >> by time show time come. >> and again I I don't want to be. disrespectful when I saw Carl Thomas. perform it wasn't the greatest. performance. >> n you got caught up. >> I got the Patriots. >> No I don't that [ __ ] wasn't the greatest. performance. >> all right yeah I got the Patriots that. game. >> NSPs. Who's a Patriot? They play the.

Bears. Thursday, October 22nd. I'll be. watching football. [laughter]. >> Yeah. See what I'm saying? >> I'm a Patriot. [laughter]. >> Yo. Yo, first you take the spread. to the spread, right? [laughter]. Yo, look at this face. [gasps] Yo, this. [ __ ] face like Yeah. This guy's. >> all right. Listen, [clears throat]. uh, we have a Vlad clip. Vlad is talking. about,

uh, his experience in working with. Elliot Wilson. >> Vlad is saying Elliot Wilson is popped. >> That's not very nice. >> It's not nice, is it? It's not. >> But, you know, only in podcast I feel. like And I feel like it's only us, too. Like, we the only podcasters that do try. to be like nice. Yeah, cuz some of them. out there will talk about how you look, how you dress, how you smell, [snorts]. >> haircuts, mean like straight up.

disrespectful, [ __ ] You know what I. mean? Like we stay on top of. >> your living situation, right? Jewelry, >> right? >> Your seats in a game, >> education or lack thereof. >> That's what I'm telling y'all. Yo, yo, listen. Some of y'all y'all wasn't with. me as an MC, right? No, as in that y'all. wasn't feeling me as an MC. Not I was. better than y'all. Some of y'all wasn't. feeling me as MC. So, let me tell you. who I was as MC. And some of it did. transfer over into the podcaster I am. just in case. Sometimes.

you got to go in fouls and just. research. You may not beef with a. rapper, but you should be at least prepared. in the event that somebody says. something. Now, I don't think nobody was. talking about me, so I don't have. nothing to say. But I did research just in case. >> You said you don't think anybody was. talking about you. What's your research.

uncover? >> Remains to be seen. >> TBD. >> It's TBD. >> Just one question cuz I I'm not in the. internet space. I don't really pay. attention. >> You don't be on the internet. >> No, I don't internet. But my man said. that one of the comments was made about. people sitting behind them at the game. Who do you think cuz I take you at your. word that it wasn't about you. Who do. you think he was talking about? Mark, >> Mark, when you sitting courtside, everyone's behind you. >> So, didn't mean like directly behind.

>> who was there, >> right? >> But I do think that line was about me. >> But who's your man? >> But we talked about that. We We pieced. up our Nick stuff. >> Okay. >> We pieced up our Nick stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't have no be. >> I just heard that clip and I was just. like, "Wow, you know, Joe's that dude. He definitely going to have something to. say.". >> No, that clip was about me. That part, the Nick part was definitely about me. The rest of it has [ __ ] to do with you. >> Yo, honestly, if we going to have that. talk just for a little bit now, I think. he was shooting Nory. I think a lot of. it was about Nory. Tell me why. >> I don't think he he'll say that.

>> Uh. cuz Nori is more the '9s MC's. Nor is. that peer group. >> Like I'm after them. >> I'm 02. 0. My album was 03. So 01. But. the '9s, the that have a relationship a little. bit. I think they fire at each other. Remember Mcori came up here was firing. at Cam. I didn't know it was about Cam. I didn't know what they had going on. I. just think the '9s got.

>> kind to be talking to each other. When. Fat Joe said the be sending me uh. >> edible arrangements, >> I thought Nory cuz he's kind like that. Like he'll welcome you into a podcast. like, "Yo, keep killing and and send you. a gift.". >> I thought that was you. >> You serious? >> Yeah. I mean, I I didn't HAD A CHANCE TO. TALK to you yet. I was like, "I thought. you some cantaloupe." I'm not [ __ ]. with. [laughter]. >> strawberry ass [ __ ]. >> You seem like the type that would do. that. You're thoughtful.

>> You is a honeydew ass [ __ ] [laughter]. >> [laughter]. >> That is wild. >> That is wild. >> You know how important You know how. important something got to be for me to. mail it or send it like I ain't that. ain't my bag. >> No, they do it for you. >> Yeah, they send it for you. >> I didn't hit Ian or Kee to send Fat Joe. an edible arrangement for starting his. new podcast. >> I ain't think I think I didn't think.

that line was about you or nobody up. here about the because He He came giving. us gifts. >> That's true. >> Oh yeah. >> So it wasn't us. Fat Joe wasn't talking. about one specific per he was covering. the whole landscape. >> Yeah. But I was home trying to figure. out who all of the shots was about. I. was. >> It's a It ain't just Nory. I think it's. Let's rap about it. I think it's. Gillian. I think he's just He set it up. here. I want to compete. >> Holy [ __ ] Let's unbound it. But he's. flying with the. >> It don't matter.

>> They all fly. Don't matter. >> It don't really matter who you fly. over. here. >> Fat Joe is making it clear. I'm in the. space. I want beef. I don't want beef, but I want to compete. I think it's. fire. I think [ __ ] should compete. back. >> You think it's fire? >> Yes. >> Well, he said that out of his own mouth. Yo, I'm trying to bait at the top. >> Yeah. And he trying to bait all of. everybody. So, he use little points. about you. >> But when he say bait at the top, I never. think about the other people. >> Maybe he's saying it's one Nick watching.

just Well, [snorts] how many people are. at the top? me. That's why I thought he. was talking about you. >> See, I don't think he was talking about. me. >> I think the conversation in the and the. the play extended past just that point. So, yeah, you got it in that. >> Yo, listen. I was in a good mood this. week. Maybe he was talking about me. I. didn't take it that way. >> Has he ever seen your crib? Cuz he said. he seen houses. He said that. No, he. didn't see mine. >> Oh, so all right. Okay. >> I mean, oh, he probably Google, right? Oh, no. He probably think you live here. [laughter]. >> YO, FAT JOE, YOU [ __ ] [ __ ].

He probably think I live in the pod. >> [ __ ] think you making eggs around THE. CAMERA. [laughter]. >> I said that living room. >> Let me tell you, I like that. >> And he smelt the lotion. That's why he. said this about. >> I was talking [ __ ] to Joe this weekend. But no lie, I think that is fire. I. think coming into the space. Yeah, [ __ ]. >> You always think it's fire when the mic. start. >> Huh? just say I thought you had a lot. more aggression and and and and energy.

against these people in spaces at the. kitchen on the balcony. We can't hear. I. think that's fire. >> The difference is I will [laughter] say. that you ain't I'll say that whole [ __ ]. instead of you hiding behind other. [ __ ] like you say WHAT YOU SAY. >> WHO AM I HIDING? >> YOU HIDE BEHIND EVERYBODY up here. >> That's why I can't play with I HIDE. BEHIND YOU COMPETE TOO. >> YOU READY TO COMPETE? >> NO, I'M NOT. OH, AND [laughter]. THEN THEN Y'ALL [ __ ] NOT. >> GO GET A DOG.

>> You. >> I got a dog. I got to attack me every. [laughter]. >> and and and I think what he's doing is. 100% with no malice. I don't think he. want no. He's out here saying, "I'm in. the space now. I'm enjoying it. We're. getting money. Everybody that wants to. be in the space, let's do it.". >> Yeah, but classic hip-hop. >> Let's make Let's make a clear I know. Classic hip-hop. We do have to make a. [laughter] clear We do have to make a. clear distinction between old money and. new money. >> Okay. No. Yeah. Got my manhood. Yeah. Yeah. >> Get me out of bed. I ain't falling for.

your [ __ ] [laughter]. >> What's What's the difference between old. money and new money? >> I'm not falling for your [ __ ]. [laughter]. >> All right, we can move. >> The headlights on the uh. >> they're different on the the old uh. forget it. >> Go ahead. Yo, let's move. We can move. on. The bumpers on the G Wagon a little. different. There are there are little. >> small details, >> small things that will tell you. >> There are signs. >> What's what's going I ain't going to do. it now. We chilling there. I'm I'm. chill. I'm in a good mood. Wasn't nobody. talking to me.

>> If I keep thinking somebody's talking. about me, then may maybe in the future. we wake some things up. But right now, we cool, man. Let everybody go ahead and. p. It's enough for everybody. I that. that part bothers me in podcasting that. not the competitive part, but the fact. that people think to to to succeed you. need to do it. >> right. I I don't think the compet that's. that's that's from hip-hop. That that's. from hip-hop. I don't I don't think that. exists really in podcasting for me. >> I think that is from the hood and I. think it's a horrible thing.

>> Or or from the hood. I mean, I'm saying. music. >> You don't think they can be two winners. in competing? >> No. >> You don't think? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I don't I. don't think if you trying to annihilate. and you trying to take somebody out then. I understand that. I don't think that's. what he trying to do. >> Okay. You could you could you could win. without competing. We [clears throat]. could just all thrive together. >> You could win without competing. Like. this not the block no more. >> You could win without competing. >> This goes back to this goes back to that. talk that we used to have about the. silent competition about the person. that's ahead is not competing. But is it.

still a competition when somebody's. competing with you? And I'm not mad at. having uh having inspired the field, right? Like I've I've accomplished some. pretty dope in podcasting. So if other. people are inspired by that, then that's. fire. But I wouldn't my inspiration is. not coming from looking down. >> What if your. >> I this is what I think and this applies. to look. >> I know. >> this applies to a lot of people. I'm. thinking from other things. >> I think the inspiration you speak to. like inspiring the field comes from hate.

though. M. >> it's not real inspiration. They come. from our Exactly. Cuz. >> the way you were looked at and perceived. it's like wait a minute. He he doing. that. >> He Yeah, he that Yeah, that. >> Oh, hell no. >> Yeah, that four [ __ ] [ __ ] him up. It. did. It [ __ ] up. No, it didn't [ __ ] It. [ __ ] I had to make another cup of. coffee. I was like, "Oh, that that is me. on there.". >> Is that why you leaked it? All jokes. aside, like, was there a part of you. that was like, >> "No, >> no, no. >> There was no ego involved in it.". >> It was ego cuz I was trying to show the. impressions and that's ego. You really.

didn't know that that number was not. show. >> No, no, no, no, no, no. Not against you. Really didn't know that the number was. going to show up. >> He said the four. So he But that but it. led to once that happened. >> Yeah. One led to all. >> Why you Why you dumbed it down though? >> Dumb what? >> The number. >> No, [laughter] I was just asking for. curiosity sake. I just, you know what. I'm saying? >> I didn't dumb investigative journalism. >> That was a that was an accurate. portrayal of what I made was on Patreon. >> at that time. >> Yeah. [laughter]. You see young Pablo over here? No. No,

no, no. I'm just saying everything that. encompassing all. >> And this goes back to what [laughter]. >> No, seriously, this goes back this goes. back to what what Meo was saying, right? Like one of the beauties of being. independent, I'll tell you out there, is. that you don't have to be locked into. like a salary. >> Yeah. >> Like I'm not signing with nobody and I. ain't signing with nobody. All y'all. that signed with somebody, I spoke to. them. I know what everybody make. I know. what everybody got offered. I know. everybody's situation. And like it don't. even make sense talking to me a certain.

way. But. >> uh damn, what was I saying just now. before that? >> How much moneyray of your. >> Yo, it don't matter what you said. You. just got out of the question. >> Oh yeah, just because somebody made this. much money in March like you don't want. to be I'm I'm not I I don't want to be. nowhere where hey that's what I have to. make for. >> no matter how much work I put. I did. that already. I did it. I'm not saying. don't do it. I did it so I don't have to. do that again. Like that's one of the. joys of being independent. >> So that you can make.

>> to Maro's point. >> this amount which is what? >> So if you make 20 maybe next month you. can make 25. >> Like you don't have no cap. >> Yeah. >> Maybe the month after that. >> I got what you ask. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Did I up? >> That's all good. >> No, you do just what you wanted to do. Avoid this initial question. >> Yeah. You did right. >> What? And expose my financial business. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. I'm not telling y'all what I. make. I don't know what y'all make. >> Who y'all we all write on? >> I don't know what any of y'all. >> How about we all write on a piece of. paper like the movies and slide it over. I don't know what any of y'all make. You. can do your little Arthur fist all you.

want. Boy, man, I. >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. >> I do not know what any of y'all make. Why do I have to keep it? >> I didn't say. >> I think that's true. Oh, so we really. got to have we can all share. Oh, wait. LET ME TELL YOU. >> NO, [laughter] he's saying he don't know. what we make. You want to know? YOU WANT. TO KNOW? >> HE'S RIGHT THERE. NO, HE'S RIGHT. >> HE'S RIGHT. He's right. >> He said he don't know what we make. Like. >> in totality 360, all of our. >> How we make money from here, yo. word. [laughter] That's it. So, let me give. you that number. >> Yeah, that's it. >> That's all I made. >> And I don't believe that.

>> N. >> I don't believe that. >> That's all I made, too. >> I don't think you're just showing up to. every porn convention just for the free. >> It's off your. >> You probably are. >> Never mind. >> Yeah. [laughter] Dick swinging. >> But yeah, I don't know what everybody. make and I think that's flying. >> We only We only make our money up here. Joe, I. >> about to say it. >> [ __ ] it's fast. >> Joe Free is going to make me mad. JVP. Where would we be without the JVP? >> Welfare. >> No, for real. >> It said something last on the last.

Patreon. I went on I wouldn't I. shouldn't tell you that. I went home and. thought about firing him. >> What you saying? >> What? >> You can't prove. >> Yeah. >> And I didn't notice what he said. No, cuz we was having No, we was having a. serious talk. >> We was having a serious talk and I know. what I said. I said, "Yo, I'm I'm I'm. almost at a place where like. >> Oh, yo, this boy knows me so well.". >> Yo, this boy knows me like the back of. his hand. >> Yo, this [ __ ] [laughter]. >> I kind of got to fire him.

>> He internalizes everything. So, I was. saying basically that I'm at a place or. I'm trying to be at a place soon where I. don't got to work. And when I mean I. mean like, "Yo, dog, my bills is paid.". Like, I don't have to stress. I don't. got to stress about paying bills. So. that's what I mean. Extra. >> Of course, he puts himself in the center. of everything. Narcissist Nancy. >> Narcissist. [laughter]. Extra. [ __ ] is DUMB ASS. [ __ ] LET'S. [laughter] SEE. LET'S SEE.

>> SHOW ME, [ __ ]. >> BIG. THOSE ARE [laughter]. THESE ARE THOUGHTS I wouldn't tell. nobody. I'm telling my friends. I. ALREADY KNOW. I already know you. [laughter] YOU WOULD FIND THIS [ __ ]. know me so well. >> The job is so that he could be up. >> No, this [ __ ] it just puts himself in. the middle. >> I didn't like his tone. >> cuz he's too cool. >> Yeah, I didn't like that. I didn't like. it's not the fact I want him to never. have to work again. But how he was too.

much? >> No, I wish you was here. He was. >> It was just a serious conversation. We. started talking about where we trying to. be and what the things we trying to top. of the month too. [ __ ] just got his. chit. I said, "Oh man, I'm missing. something in my pocket watching a. [laughter] I said this got another. another stream I don't know about.". >> Yo, anyway, man, Mark, how much you. make? >> I don't even know that much. >> cuz my pocket watch. >> Yeah, it's getting there. >> Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah.

>> No. >> Yes. >> No. It's been a down couple years, man. >> I know. And they they they [laughter]. >> No, they back up. >> No. basketball, you bounce back up. >> N I hope so. I I hope. >> no gravity on that level. They just. whatever, man. Um yo, you. >> speaking of money or maybe Oh, wait. WE. WERE TALKING ABOUT VLAD. >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING. How the. hell did we end up talking about all. this other psycho, bro? I know. I'm. serious. >> I need help. >> So Vlad said that Elliot, >> but those thoughts are arrested dayto. day for me. Like I think it and I tell. y'all cuz it's geek key, but they don't.

it's not real. It's not real. [laughter]. >> They're like intrusive. Yes. Thank you. It's intrusive thoughts. >> You probably You and Cory probably had a. 40minute conversation. Yo, did you hear. this [ __ ]. >> Did you know I haven't talked with Cory. since 2019? [laughter]. >> WHY DO. YOU THINK WE BE talking about this? >> Vote. Oh, in the gym. [laughter]. >> So Kef right. So Vlad and Elliot started.

doing something together and then it. kind of fizzled quickly and Vlad said. cuz Elliot is pop. >> I was playing the clip. I was playing. the clip. That's what I was doing before. we start talking about something. >> Keep trying to get us back on track. >> I think that's terrible. >> Girl, shut our ass. [laughter] God damn. No, it's when Karisha stepped the. L'Oreal business. Yeah, that's right. I. saw that. That's right. I saw that. I. ain't Laurel. I'm glad she did that. >> I'm glad she stopped business. All. right. >> I look my homie man. Here we go. Uh, I. haven't talked about this before, but. Elliot Wilson approached me to do a.

podcast. And he said, "Yo, the two of us. should do a podcast." I said, "All. right, I'm willing to do it if you book. the guests. >> because I'm already booking guests for. my own shit." He said, "All right, cool. Let's I'll do it." He brought Hit Boy. in. I said, "Cool. I'm not going to pay you for this. interview because I don't think it'll do. big numbers." Hit Boyy's cool, but I. know with my audience, it's not going to. do big numbers. So, but I will cover the. production cost. I'll sit in on the. interview with you and we'll knock it. out. We'll see what happens and we'll.

try to grow it over time. >> So, >> we did the interview, a clip went viral, but it went viral. like on Twitter, other people's accounts. went Tik Tok, like people were ripping. parts of it and posting and so forth. So, when you count it all up, the. interview got about 300,000 views. >> I made about $1,200 on it, >> right? which doesn't even really cover. my production cost. My production cost. when you look at my company as a whole. is probably around maybe $3,000 per.

interview. Right. >> Vlad is a such a horrible liar, but go. ahead. >> He asked me for $3,000. I said, number. one, we agree that I'm not paying for. this. Number two, look at the numbers. >> Yeah. >> He's like, "Well, you got to invest, you. know, in a project." I said, "No, I. don't. I don't. Why do I have to invest? I can get in front of the camera and. make triple that with nobody around.". >> Yeah. >> He's like, "Well, what about all the. social media and this and that?" That's. where something I go viral. >> a couple times every month. >> Yeah. >> Like look my [ __ ] my [ __ ] Mac video. That's my baby.

>> NO, THAT'S THE BIGGEST [ __ ] ON TIKTOK. right now. >> I go viral all the time. Going viral. really doesn't change anything. >> Yeah. You're probably one of the most. clipped YouTubers outside of streamers. >> Yeah, exactly. Who are paying people for. clips? >> Who pay for clippers? >> I have a team of people. Shout out to. Social Lemon who clip my [ __ ] up. >> and that's it. and and everybody else. take it and clip it around and everyone. else takes it. Yeah. But and I pay them. off. >> And I'm calling Charleston White, but I. don't think he's a [ __ ] I haven't done. seen him in too many situations. Pull.

that bear mace out. Do some [ __ ] or some. other [ __ ]. >> Yeah. Or some other [ __ ] I'm saying. that just to be mean, but I don't think. he's uh. >> that fee. They don't get up, you know, more money if he gets more views. None. of that [ __ ] Clip my [ __ ] up and let. people do what they do with it. All. right. >> And that's it. I don't care about that. >> And that was the end of the podcast. right there. $3,000 when I'm making not even break. even, man. I got to sit in on this [ __ ]. That's why you haven't seen another.

Elliot Wilson and Vlad podcast cuz it's. like, yo, Elliot's not thinking long. term. He needs that money right now and. I'm not going to pay him anything right. now. I'm not making anything. All right, folks at a loss. Like, I'm not going to. do that [ __ ] I'm just not. Especially. since I have to be involved. I got to. sit in the [ __ ] You become hands on, man. Listen, that that's too much work. and you become the founder and the. investor. >> Yeah. Like shout out and shout out to. Elliot, man. I respect the guy. I mean, he's a legend in this [ __ ] He's been. doing it way longer than me. I used to. read Double XL before Vlad TV.

>> But people have to think business-wise. >> Like, if you don't come into this. >> thinking business-wise, you do booy. business, meaning that. >> you ain't going to land long. >> You need to pay me everything and maybe. even take a loss just cuz I'm here and I. [snorts]. >> Why is he doing that? Did Elliot start shooting? >> I didn't see Elliot saying anything. >> That seems like a lot of mess for I is. he really familiar with Vlad recently?

>> I am. I am. >> No, I mean like it sounds like I'm. trying to shoot a Vlad and I'm not. But. recently. >> he's been diving right into. >> He hears everything. >> He's been on camera more and he's. starting to see that a lot of people are. actually in tune with seeing him on. camera. >> Okay. >> So, it is. >> he's been really transparent about a lot. of things. >> Yeah. >> In a Vlad style like this. This was some. Vlad style [ __ ] here. >> Take this as shooting. >> I didn't mean to be honest. >> No, I don't think it's shooting. But it. is a When you do this, you clearly ain't. trying to do business with this person.

anymore or or be cool with this person. been established. >> No, but I'm saying if me and you were. cool as we are, I would never say like. he needed that $3,000. >> But we might not have been. >> That word cool get thrown around too. much in in entertainment spaces and. cultural spaces. >> I'm using cool as an alternative to. friends. I'm saying like cool like we're. willing to do business together again. and if I'm if I'm planning on doing. business together with you again I'm. probably not gonna say and he asked me I. wouldn't give any details about business. >> deal probably not cool he just has a. respect for him right the record that.

the way you are accustomed to doing. business I don't do business like that. so we not going to even embark on that. journey no more. >> which I think is cool I think it's weird. when you do it in a public space like. this. >> way is not the not the greatest. >> Here's the thing I don't get because I I. understand Vlad's argument I don't think. it's a bad argument Me, too. >> I just don't understand why you don't. have these things agreed upon before the. video comes out. >> He said he did allegedly. He said that. he told Elliot, "I'm not paying you for. Hit Boy, >> right?". >> Like, he's not necessarily what my demo. would want to see. >> I'm covering the calls. We're doing this.

together. I'm actually sitting on camera. with you so that. maybe I misunderstood, but I thought he. was saying because the video did 300 for. Vlad. That's low. And Elliot thought 300. was enough for him to recoup. >> No, he's saying, "Yo, we did this video. It's on my platform. Not only did I pay. for everything, I sat in on the video, which means that's my labor. >> Yeah. >> We made whatever we made. We made $1,200. I spent $3500 and you. still asking me to give you out of my. pocket three grand for yourself?

>> No, I get all I guess I. >> I would need to know what the situation. was just for Elliot to do a pod with him. before we get into inviting guests. >> I guess that's what I'm trying to say, man. Like how how was Elliot to be paid. >> or compensated? Yeah. >> Oh, they was never there is no guest. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> God, >> you heard him. First thing he said was. you have I got my own platform. We could. do some guest. >> It's your job to invite your own guests. >> You got to invite the guest.

>> So, we're establishing that this is. guest based on how the interview does. >> or who you invite. >> or how much we make. It sound like it. sound like it's just math. >> But he told but he told him up front as. soon as he said hit. Okay. Well, I'm not. paying for Hit Boy because I don't even. expect this to do XYZ. It's what it. really sounds like is Vlad has one. understanding of things and it looks. like Elliot has what he thinks is a. different understanding. So once he. sees, yo, it's viral. >> I he thinks it generated more money.

>> That's my point. >> And Vlad is like, "Nah, it's viral on. Twitter, which means other people are. getting paid off of that. That money. didn't come here in here. It only did. 300 grand." That's where I think Vlad be. misleading when he throws that out. there. He did it with the booy. He's. doing it again. Now, yes, these. interviews didn't make. buku dollars, but traffic these other. places that act as a commercial and it's. bringing back, >> even if it's a little bit of traffic, it's coming back to your platform.

>> Maybe not to that video. >> No, I'm saying, but how do you quantify. it? How do you quantify it? >> Well, that's where Blad is right because. what happens on my platform is none of. your business. >> But that's why I'm saying it's none of. your business. >> Or how do we put a number on it? Let's. say that he's only putting a number on. what that. >> and that's the point. So if the Clippers. clipped it up seven zillion times and. now as a result people came to my. channel and saw all these other clips, right? How do you now say, "Yo, that's. worth X or pay me X for that.".

>> I think I think you can know. That's. what I'm saying. But you need to have. hardcore numbers ahead of time, which. they didn't have. So, for example, if I. say, okay, if it does a million on. Twitter, I want X%. Right? Cool. That's. the easy part. If it gets 50 million. impressions on the Twitter elsewhere, we. can talk with a number together, but. whatever the big number is on Twitter or. Tik Tok or whatever, because I know it's. going to lead to some level of residual. traffic, I want $1,000. >> Most most platform owners would walk you. to your car. >> I would just say, which is fine. Have a.

nice day. I'm with you. I'm just saying. they need to have that conversation so. that one person if if we if we do. business together and at the after the. work is done we're we're talking about. what it's worth terms of what it's worth. somebody's done something wrong. That's. all I'm saying. I think Vlad is right. I. just want them to have more of a. conversation. >> It sound like like a [ __ ] like on some. let's put on some music saying yo. >> my record is being played everywhere in. the hood. Everywhere you go you're. hearing my song. It got to be doing. something. And he's saying yeah but. those are bootlegs that's playing it. >> Yeah. >> Like just because it's it's getting.

traffic. It's not coming directly. saying 300,000 views ain't for me. >> Listen, I don't want to spend I don't. want to spend a whole bunch of time. >> analyzing what Vlad said. >> cuz that's Vlad's longstanding. successful business. [ __ ] you run it. however the [ __ ] you want to run it. It's his. >> That's a fact. >> Elliot, on the other hand, it's almost like time for intervention. >> Yeah. >> Like I think Elliott I think Elliott is. really sullying his name. M. Yeah.

>> Like I think that same respect that Vlad. spoke about with Elliot, I have it for. Elliot. [ __ ] have it for everybody. >> Yeah. L is like legacy, but in this new. age content world, >> heart. >> I think Elliott has done a lot and is. doing a lot that ain't coming off right, dog. >> Yeah. >> And this is from me looking Bey in his. face. >> And B held you down, dog. beat out a. beat out ain't he didn't give it up.

there. >> He wants to give it up. >> But something happened there. >> Yep. >> Bad ain't got to tell me that. I'm just. a pro. You. >> can see it. You can see it. >> between that between what happened with. the Jeremy Hecpod and and and. >> between. that that you pulled with Sanon. that you still ain't even answered for. yet. Yeah, you sully in your neck. >> Like you out here visible. You tweeting,

you Instagraming, you doing whatever you. doing and is knocking on your door. saying, "Yo, you did some shady [ __ ]. What's up with that?" And you still in. the content space. It's like he moving. in a way that's that's a little walking. I'm not going to lie to you. when you've. been able to rely on big companies or. other people's being able to pay you out. and not having to live as an independent. kind of similar to what we've just. back to last week's Patreon and that's.

why I wish you was here when I start. talking about the the entrepreneurial. that we be pushing when you are. accustomed to getting a check everybody. don't make that smooth pivot to working. on their own you got to eat what you. kill I mean you eat what you kill when. you working for these big companies. You. don't have to do that. It's not just. that. I just I just think you know what. what what people won't admit and I think. >> all of us at some degree, well, not all. of us, but some of us who probably never. just had good business sense in certain. ways as an independent, you have to. learn or at least be willing to say to. yourself, I'm not really doing the best.

in business. I might be a great. creative. I might have all the contacts. I might have all the people who know and. and believe in my creative passion and. vision, but when it comes time to talk. business, they have no real respect for. me because I'm not really presenting. myself in the most respectful way. >> I'm not giving Elliot all these passes. I ain't honestly. Elliot probably got. one more pass out of me and and that's a. possible. It's like a half a pass. I'm. not. >> I agree with your point is about the.

when you used to whatever you used to. work in a job, it's tough to I agree. with that. I'm looking at L different. because you've been here. >> No, he hasn't. >> No, but he hasn't though. >> No, no, no. Let me finish what I'm. saying. >> Okay. >> You have when the game continues to. change right in front of your face. >> and you continue to do the same and. change absolutely nothing. >> Yeah. >> Then this falls on you, big dog. I'm. sorry. This is before you got ill. This. is before the twins. Congratulations and. I hope you're well and healthy. But the.

game has changed too many times in front. of Elliot and he's he's in the rooms. with people with the information and the. resources. So we have said to him, "Yo. dog, this ain't the way." This is back. when Everyday Struggle he was supposed. to be the host of See, I ain't get paid. for Everyday Struggle. >> I got paid, but it wasn't no money. >> It wasn't paid paid, >> which meant whoever was taking the gig. wasn't about to get no money, >> right? I wasn't doing it for the money.

I was doing it for a visibility play. I. was doing it to combine my talent with. Complex's resources that all that. clippy, pitchforky, quirky they do and. me go over there and be animated. That. changed the trajectory of where I was. going. It's a bet that paid off. Elliott. said, "Now, that's not enough money for. me to do that show.". >> Got you. the CBS deal, the all I could. go through all of the deals, the all of. that Rock Nation that you was doing. And. that be the other thing you that's guest.

based. >> You that's guest based, but it's not. really guest based cuz you can't get. that guest. >> You [clears throat] can't call that. guest. >> You don't have no that guest is coming. because of who the you signed to. >> Mhm. That guess is coming because. somebody in the seauite or the executive. position made a phone call and now you. get to feeling yourself and putting dip. on your chip cuz you think you did. something. No [ __ ] that's wrong. And he.

been there when he was doing that live. show [ __ ] with the artist and they come. up there andown Crown. >> What a show. But [ __ ] the game was. changing. >> Yeah. And you spent those years signed. somewhere just listening to people and. now you out here floundering. Now you out here making decisions from. seemingly because I ain't spoke to you. from what seems like a state of. desperation. So now you get that's when. [ __ ] start. Savon shouldn't be able to. talk to Elliot Wilson like that.

>> There's no excuse for it. There's. nothing you could say to make that make. sense to justify it, rationalize it. Savvon can say that to Elliot Wilson and. look at you and say you smuck ass. You slimy ass moving like that. Where's. the money? You omie Vlad is talking to. like that's the thing about character. dog. >> Take it easy on him. Take it easy. L is. my man. >> I know. I know. I know. But I say that. >> But I take offense that you did that. slimy to Savon and they say a word to.

me. Yeah. >> You call [ __ ] for everything else. And I'mma take it easy. >> Take it. Yeah, I'm saying that for a. reason. Take take it easy. >> But he got remember, you know how to. reach out the end. Yeah. >> Yeah. The the nerve of you moving around. out here and then think the streets. don't talk and think [ __ ] don't start. coming back to people. Come on, man. Come on, L. Come on, L. That's what I. got. I'm done. I'm done.

>> I'm done. I didn't mean to rant. >> I think what you said is good. I think. saying it off. I mean, we saying it. here, but [ __ ] I've said it to his. face and had he called me. I just said it to him on the phone. But yeah, you don't treat people like. that and think that you still about to. be disregarded at the stat. No, [ __ ] I. just No, that's not okay. Elliot Wilson, that's not okay. Yo, I hope you're well. and you know I love you. You know, I. ain't got no problem with you, but what. you doing out there and how you moving.

>> and how you not responding to it, right? It ain't about what happens in life, but. how how are you handling the things that. happen? So, no, that's not okay to just. pack your bags and and and move and just. hide and hibernate and get the [ __ ] out. of here, man. [clears throat] Sorry. What you got, Mark? Um, there's a couple. things up here I want to talk about, but. since you talk about people giving it. up, >> Stephanie Mills, >> she jumping on that list. >> Stephanie Mills has made my list. >> I got a list is a very short list of.

people I would love to interview cuz. they're just too honest, you know, older. people. Quincy Jones, uh, Shaka Shaka. >> and now Stephanie Mills. >> is on that list. Stephanie Mills sat. down with the former vice mayor of. Stockton and [snorts]. gave what I That's a funny place to. petty and unnecessary. [laughter]. >> So petty and unnecessary. >> I got to find the clip now. >> I spend all the energy being shady. [laughter].

>> Political shady too. Like I have no idea. about I don't know. Vice president, mayor, what? Who knows? >> You know his position. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Let me find this Stephanie. Mills clip. Here we go. Here we go. All right, we. got it. >> I should say it now. >> And this is uh Stephanie Mills talking. about her experience with Lady Gaga. >> Can I tell you something that I've never. I don't even know if I should say it. now. >> Yo, let me pause this. That's my. favorite way to start anytime.

>> Glad just said that and I was at the. edge of my seat. I've never shared this. before. Oh, really? I should I don't. even know if I should say this. >> Yes, you should. I'm right here. Absolutely. Right here. [laughter] And as much [ __ ]. as I talk about Jason, I do think he's a. phenomenal interviewer. >> Yeah, he is. He is. >> a phenomenal interviewer. All right, here we go. >> And I won't tell nobody. Go ahead. >> I feel like Lady Gaga is a culture. vulture. >> Oh god. See, you pulled up. You chose by. >> say more. >> Miss Mills, don't come in here and give. me what I need because this is this. interview will go all the way left.

>> A culture vulture. >> I was managed by a manager a couple of. years ago. Years years ago. >> Get to the tea. And they came to me and. they said, "Home is Lady Gaga's favorite. song. She's doing a fashion shoot in New. York. Would you come and surprise her. and sing Home?" At first, I said, "No. Why would I do that?" No. >> See, but this is when you know you're an. icon. When you have to be talked into. going to sing for Lady Gaga, I'm going. to need you to put some respect on your. name cuz I ain't going to let you play. yourself in my. >> anybody confused out there. Stephanie. Mills is indeed that. I know we got.

younger listeners. She is every bit of. her. Yes. >> Okay. I went and she had a little black. dog there and all the other people and. uh so I sang for her. She didn't smile. She didn't do anything. She looked at me. like I had two heads. >> No, she didn't. >> Yes, she did. [laughter] And the thing. was that the guy that was doing her. photo shoot was going to take a fashion. shoot of me. That was the that I didn't. even get paid for it. That was the. tradeoff. So we I finished staying at.

home and we took pictures before we. left. They said, "You got to delete all. those pictures.". >> Who her team did? >> We were at the elevator getting ready to. leave and they came and they said, "Delete." And they did not let us leave. until they saw every picture being. deleted. >> That is so disrespectful. >> Very disrespectful. >> What was their explanation for that? >> That's why I say she's a culture vulture. because she was managed, correct, by. black men. Well, I'm sure she's going to. see this because I've I've gotten calls.

about other shows we've done that she's. watched and you know, I hope she fixes. that because. >> I hope she watches. I hope you watch and. I hope you remember what you did. [laughter]. >> Okay. Shout out to Stephanie Mills, legend, legend, icon. Shout out to Jason. Lee, former vice president, mayor of uh. Stockton. >> Vice president, vice president, mayor. position, vice mayor, >> whatever the [ __ ] he was out there.

>> He got Nick Cannon to come out there and. do wilding out. >> Stop, man. >> He did. >> Yo, Stephanie Mills is a legend. >> He tried to resign. He was like, "Nick, you crazy. You can't res. [laughter]. >> Stephanie Mills. Yo, >> you can't resign, [ __ ]. >> I feel like you owe me." Sorry. >> No, I I love Stephanie Mills's honesty, man, and her rawness. I don't know what. happened with with. >> and I do want it to go to some other. town, not be here. >> My purpose was not given to me by this. council, and it cannot be taken away by. a vote of this council.

>> Uh, that's when you know you're down. [laughter]. Hey, it can't be taken away, Jason. >> No, watch. Stay right. Hey, don't move. >> Two seconds later. >> No. Yeah. When [ __ ] do that, you know. they trying to they trying to you you. can't give it to me. You can't take it. All right, let's see. >> More drama tonight at STARBUCKS. mayor just as. about to vote on stripping him of that.

title. >> I'm going to resign as the vice mayor. And here's the deal because the title. doesn't drive leadership. >> That's true. >> The title doesn't change anything. >> Council member P. Oh, you heard him. there. He resigned, but then Mayor. Christina Fugazi moved forward anyway. with a formal vote to oust him as vice. mayor. Watch how this played out. >> Let's see. >> I am requesting by making a motion to. remove uh council member Jason Lee as my. vice mayor.

>> I make a motion that we accept the vice. mayor's resignation. >> Shut up, [ __ ] Ain't nobody ask you to. agree with nothing, old man. Anyway, uh. Stephanie Mills, >> that's foul. Quit. That's crazy. That is. crazy. I don't think crazy. I'm I'm joking, but. I don't think that's crazy. >> I do. >> Nah, >> [ __ ] they let Nixon resign after. Watergate. You can let somebody resign. I mean, like to me, it's I It's. politically motivated. I don't get it. >> I wasn't elected by y'all. >> Shouldn't things be politically. motivated in politics?

>> In politics? >> Not necess No, not everything. >> Mark, don't be a socialist right now. >> You saying words. didn't make any [ __ ] sense. If not if. not [laughter]. >> if we if we can't be politically. motivated some process I'm saying some. processes should be un for everybody. The rules should be ruled for everybody. It shouldn't depend on what party you. are whether they like you or not. That's. what I'm saying. That's the politically. motivated part that I'm talking about. So I'm saying if I let somebody who. steals a million dollars resign or if I. let someone who who conspires with other.

governments to resign, I can certainly. let the vice mayor of Stockton resign. That's that's all. >> Yes and no. think the powers that beat. afforded him the luxury of resigning. The people that were over him, they. said, "All right, cool. You can resign.". The people that may have been over Jason. said, "No, >> no." A lot of times it don't even be, "Okay, cool. You can resign." It be. listen, you're going to resign. >> He's going to resign so that we dignity. and your benefits letting you. >> That is the universal standard in. politics is that you we ask for your. resignation. >> Cool. Because again, we might courtesy.

>> Yeah. You might have friends in the. room. >> Yeah. But when you don't have no friends. in the room, impeach his ass and shame. him and drag him through the mar. was politically motivated. They want I'm. agreeing with you. I'm just saying but. they don't have to take it light. Cuz. what we saying is. >> even the allowing you to resign is. politically motivated. >> Courtesy, >> all of it's politically motivated, not. just that side of it. >> No, I I No, I'm saying that's the. standard, right? the decision to make.

you do it might be politically. motivated, but I'm saying when we when. somebody's done when we ready to get you. out of office, we say we need your. resignation. >> That's all I'm saying. If we do that for. nine people out of 10, don't do it for. the person you don't like. >> I'm usually with you, Mark. But there's. a big difference between being the vice. mayor of a city and being the president. of the United States. There's going to. be some different world. What I'm saying. is even on city councils, they do. That's the that's the political center. everywhere. It's not I'm not saying like. it only happens in the White House. I'm. saying city council, state houses, they. ask for your res. Man, it sound like you. saying it's okay to allow it only if we.

like you. >> No, I'm saying we should do it whether. we like you or not. We should have the. same standard whether we like you or. not. >> And see, I think the standard is the. same cuz it's all politically motivated, right? >> But we going in circ. I think it's important to to for the. records for for. >> and that's what it's for the records. We. want to reflect that you got fired, not. that you resigned, >> not that we. resignation. We are firing you. So in. the future, the whoever's sitting here. knows he was on [ __ ] [ __ ].

>> Yes. Well, no, you got fired from your. post. Yeah. And we didn't accept your. >> The reason I don't like that is because. the other five people who got who did. even worse. >> We're allowed to resign. So So it. creates So it makes it look like he did. something worse than the five people who. got allowed to resign. >> He tries a different way. When I'm. shooting at somebody, just shut the up, man. Don't start [laughter]. arguing for for them. >> I'm doing this for you because at some. point he's going to clap back and then. you going to back down again. I'm trying. to I'm trying to step in front. >> I didn't back down the last time. I a. heard a pee from him. Maybe he was off. that day.

>> Oh, you going to hear now, [ __ ]. >> Oh, that's not true. >> I don't back down. Maybe he was here. >> Oh, [ __ ] here now. >> We need to keep a count on back down. actually. I like that. >> You got all that smoke for Jason Lee, but ain't had no. >> I thought that was really light smoke. That was like. >> You should have had no. >> boiling water smoke. That That was no. food cooking. >> Steam. >> Steam. >> Yeah, that was steam. >> Go ahead. Stephanie Mills. >> You're y'all talking about Stephanie. [laughter] Mills. Do you think Do you think Do you think. she made the case that that Gaga was a. culture vulture? To me, it sounds like. she made it sound like an [ __ ]. >> Uh, this is where it gets weird for me. is it sounds like Lady Gaga's team.

>> Yeah. >> I don't think this has anything to do. with Lady Gaga. >> Sounds like it was sound like somebody. lied to Stephanie Mills. >> I'm on a Stephanie Mills side cuz I love. Stephanie Mills more than Gaga. personally, but. >> this sounds like a li not or no. Lady. Gaga might really [ __ ] with you. She. might really love home. She came in. there. She took those pictures out of. respect for who you are and then her. team might have said, "No, >> you look like in those pictures." It. could have been a number of different. things. >> Well, I'm taking.

Okay, >> if I'm Stephanie Mills, I do look at it. like, "Yo, you are a culture vulture. You came in here. You said home was your. favorite. I traveled to meet you and. then I don't even have enough oomph to. get pictures with you.". >> But she didn't get that word directly. from Lady Gaga. And I'm I'm taking. Stephanie Mills at her word that she was. performing home. >> and Lady Gaga sat there stoic and. stonefaced. >> And if that's your favorite song when. home come on, you're just not going to. do that. So So that don't tell me that.

And I don't think Lady Gaga is doing. favor for a favor. >> True. >> Which is also what she said. And this. happens a lot in the business where. somebody that worked for the artist come. and think they doing something. >> and they hey take the pictures and. because Gaga is a professional she going. to take it and then send her a team to. do some [ __ ] like hey make her delete. all those pictures but I just don't. think that falls on Lady Gaga and a part. about and a part about her sitting there. like not enjoying a song or something we. say all the time you don't know what. type of dies have and I might not even. want to do this photo shoot.

>> I could ask some going on like all right. let me do this all right now you doing I. really got to go I don't I want to be. Sometimes that happens, bro. >> No, there's there's there's artist. etiquette. you do as artist etiquette. >> There there's front row of the concert. etiquette. There's etiquette for. wherever you at. >> Yeah. >> And they're artists, so they should know. that. But that story tells me that Lady. Gaga got a give [ __ ] no home. >> Home ain't even a song that could come. on and you. >> that COULD BE THE FACE SUPPOSED TO MAKE. HOME. That could be that could be the.

last. You should be smiling and like. looking like you like it. Gaga is a. stage and Broadway performer. >> That record was built basically off of. stage and Broadway performance. I see a. world where she grew up loving that. song. >> And you can also see a world where. somebody told Stephanie Mills she loved. that song to get it here. >> It's her response that is curious to me. I believe that she could love home. >> Yo, >> home is the. >> is there any world where say it. Stephanie Mills might have sounded like. and she sat there looking at her like.

Prince. >> Nah, man. N I'm asking. Not no one ones. asking. Lady Gaga was supposed to have a lighter. in there or some [ __ ] I ain't a word. No, >> she was supposed to take a hat. She was. supposed to do that again. >> Yes. All of that. >> She was supposed to be mouth mouthing. the words connecting with you like. singing girl. That's what she was. supposed to be doing. >> I agree. >> During this it ain't like Minute Large. was performing. [laughter]. >> If Minute Large was performing then,

hey, where's the where's the. concessions? [laughter]. Popcorn. >> [ __ ] said Gaga was in there hung over. >> Eyes barely open. [ __ ] [laughter]. >> Stephanie Mills does give you my. favorite moments though when she just. talk. She don't be giving a shot in that. voice. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Don't try to make it right by playing. solo. >> Remember the video. [laughter]. ridiculous. [ __ ] that. >> That's why I play. They even sound.

ridiculous now. I bought these two fat. single talk about some. >> always talk about that always. >> cuz like I might have ran to the store. [laughter]. >> You sang this in the mirror too. >> This was a joint. >> I know. >> But if they were standing in front of me. performing it. >> I wouldn't treat it like Stephanie Mills. home. I'll tell you that. >> Actually, I probably would sing this. [ __ ]. >> Yeah, it would. It'll bring back memory. >> Just on some artist. >> Yeah. Such a better.

But I ain't wear a home in a large is. cool. >> Yeah, hopefully. Anyway, >> you ran to the store. >> This [laughter] [ __ ] said he ran to the. store. >> You had more stuff. Wasn't they dressed. the same in the video? >> Kind of similar. They had very 90s gear. on with them hats and everything. Remember? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. One of them lost a lot of weight. One of them, I think. >> Yo, the title made you run to the store. >> Men at large. [laughter]. >> Need that in here now. >> [laughter].

>> Yeah, I was I was a child. I was a young childish. Oh, so you knew. what you was too early. [laughter]. Yo, anybody laughing? They got. [laughter]. I don't want nobody [laughter] laugh. You can only laugh if you never been. That's it. Bro, what's wrong? Cuz too MUCH.

[laughter]. [laughter]. STORY. [laughter]. is your world. [laughter]. >> That's so [ __ ]. [laughter]. I don't want nobody laughing at God. That's nuts to say this guy.

>> Stephanie Mill, she spoke about Oprah. and Gail, too. >> Yes, that's what I was saying. >> We should cover that as well. She did. make very strong claims about not liking. the stance that Oprah and took uh while. uh covering the Michael Jackson and the. R. Kelly. >> uh situations. >> So, she stood strong on that um cuz she. said, you know, at some point Oprah was. a a supporter of Mike, did interviews. with him. True. Um, and then she just. went ahead and voiced these people who. were making these claims that were.

unfounded or actually thrown out, whatever the the case was. So, she stood. strong with that. I. >> What was her angle on the R. Kelly part? >> Uh, she I Well, she just had mentioned. the when did the R. Kelly interview and. I guess maybe the angle that she took or. just whatever whatever. Um, I know with. the Michael thing. >> that didn't tell him absolutely nothing. >> like saying whatever whatever. >> No, that's what I mean. She didn't give. no more detail than. >> No, no, she did. She did. She said um. she said they're going to they're going. to do enough tearing us down. So why do. we have why do we have to do it? She. says R. Kelly only went and sat there.

because is black. So they be feeling. safe and some of that we just didn't. need to platform because it was going to. get done anyway. So why is it always us. on us? >> That was her point. >> It's a good point. >> Thousand%. >> It's not a good point. But. >> yeah, I don't know. I don't know about. that. >> I bring the standpoint. >> I understand where she's coming from. I. think it depends on the people you're. talking about. The. >> interview I think everybody should have. piled on with R. Kelly though. >> Well, that's what I was about to say. Like with R. Kelly interview, what do. you do? Right. If CBS this morning gets. the R. Kelly interview, do I let the.

white person do it? >> Yes. >> And just get out the way. >> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> And if he's not going to do it to any. for anybody but then you just turn down. the interview. >> Then we don't get an R. Kelly interview. He didn't do nothing but make a fool of. himself up there. >> Look, he was he was in a breakdown. His. mental health was horrible. I don't want. to sound like I'm capable for him, but. he clearly wasn't in the best state up. there. So then we don't see it. And for. me, what does everybody lose in that? I. think the question is what does. everybody gain? Um, and I think what we. could gain is in a world where people. are still um, some people on the fence. about R. Kelly, some people are still.

grooving to R. Kelly, some people are. still defending R. Kelly or attacking. the girls, I think pointing him out as a. liar and is a way to sway the public. toward the truth. So, I think that's the. value of it, you know. >> And they still looking for views, too. >> Yeah. Now sometimes. >> see I think he was well painted that way. >> but prior to that Gail interview people. saw the video. >> which motivates he was on the video two. decades earlier. >> No I'm talking I thought I thought he. was talking about the dock. >> and the doc the doc the doc nail put the.

nail in the coffin. >> Yeah but we saw that network get what. they needed out of it. Now we want a. piece of that pie now too. >> Cool. So I don't want nothing to do with. that if I'm the black woman that is. responsible for getting the network that. off the back of the black man. >> Would you feel the same way, Mark, if. she did that on Fox News? >> If if interviewed R. Kelly on Fox News, how would you feel about it? >> I'd feel the same way. My bigger concern. would be why she's on Fox News in the. first place. But I wouldn't have any I. would I wouldn't feel any differently. about the interview. I'd be mad she was. on working for Fox News.

>> Got it. >> But if she was already there and she did. the interview and asked the same. questions, I'd be fine. >> But you worked for Fox News before. I. wish I hadn't. >> Okay, that's a difference. >> Yeah. Okay. >> I make a I work for Fox since 20. >> No, you don't need to explain it. >> Yeah. [snorts]. >> I mean, you probably should explain. >> I work for [laughter] a long. >> That little worked for somebody. You. should explain. >> I worked for Fox News a long time ago. and I worked there as [clears throat]. the the the left-wing counterpoint. I. was arguing against the enemy. I was. arguing against Bill O'Reilly every. night. I wasn't co-signing it.

>> But if they asked me to suddenly sit. down with R. Kelly. I mean, that's where. it would get interesting, right? Um, and. I. >> I think the bigger question would be. >> how much they paying me. But but even if. >> but [laughter] even if you're even if. you're hired to be the the counterpoint. to to they. >> you still get paid by them and you're. still. >> legitimizing them, bring the show. >> That's why I began with I wish I hadn't. Would you? >> But but I was adding that addendum to. give the context so people don't think I. was over there with Tucker Carlson. But. no, I if if I Fox Fox was a little bit.

different then, but I still think I. shouldn't have done it in retrospect. I. regret it. Would you interview him. today? >> Would I know. >> on your platform? >> No. >> No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. Um, and let. me take that back, >> please. If if [laughter] something. >> I'll let him get a fresh shape on. >> if if some new information came out that. made it newsworthy. Yes. But just as a. same reason I interviewed Dame Dash, I'm. not comparing Dash. >> In his question, I'm I'm assuming is new. information. Would you go to the jail? I. go to look him up. I was going to say.

some people I'm saying I would just. interview him for views is what I'm. saying. The same same reason I don't do. dame dash interviews even though I. obviously could even though they would. get views. It's like I don't think. there's anything new and I think it's. actually harmful at some point. >> Um I don't think I can't think of any. good reason to interview R. Kelly. >> But if y'all had a good reason and could. give me one. I'm not saying like I would. never interview R. Kelly but I'm saying. just like I would interview Donald Trump. if there was a good reason. But I don't. have one right now. If he called me. right now and said, "Hey Mark, I want to. do an interview." I wouldn't. >> I want to get my side. I want to clear. some things up or something or get my. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

>> I don't like how I'm being portrayed. I. want to sit down with you. Another black. man who. >> You ask how many. I would say. >> And I'm going be honest. Hold my feet to. the fire. Let's do it. >> I was sitting to eat. >> Oh, no. We can't afford that. >> No, he don't. He don't have the. journalistic integrity. >> Don't tell me what I got, [ __ ] You got. >> I ain't finished [laughter] my sentence. to the masses that would solidify the. interview. So, he want you. >> did not have to say no. I passed. >> He don't know R&B like you. [laughter]. >> All right.

I would pass. >> I would pass. >> Yeah, I was pregnant. >> I ain't trusted. I ain't. >> step side to side. >> No, I would not. [clears throat]. >> Hey, Mr. >> I think I think y'all don't know how. many interviews I turned down and how. many of things I don't do. >> Talk to him that [ __ ] [ __ ]. >> We just said that. You know, you was up. here trying to get bro. So, you know. what I mean? >> Yeah. I thought that was fun and. interesting. >> Okay. >> But I wouldn't I wouldn't interview. Tori. It's not an A level, B level, C level, D. level thing. It's about my own personal.

values. Yeah, you wouldn't. >> I wouldn't if you were real right now if. she had tried to burn me for the money. [laughter]. >> Speaking of getting burnt from money, >> I ain't trust Oprah since I don't know. what I was watching with it was during. CO where she was like, listen now, Steman caught CO [clears throat]. >> and I I put him out the house. So, >> come on. let's walk over here and see if. he got better. And they walked and they. walked to the guest house and show.

they showed Steman just living in. I'm. like, yo, no way. >> Oprah is Oprah. >> Wait, what? >> And then I think in that same piece or a. piece not too long after that, well, no, he got better. And once he got better, >> he said, man, >> he was still in that guest house. No, [laughter] he came out the guest house. and they went to feed the dog together. and the dog was eating like wag goo on. like a diamond plate [clears throat] or. some [ __ ] I said, "You know what? I. don't trust Oprah. Not at all. Not for.

the slightest." And I'm sure other. people have good reason, but me that. Mike [ __ ] she did was I didn't like. that. That mic [ __ ] was shady. >> That Michael Jackson, >> I understand why Stephanie Mill speaks. on it. She had a great relationship with. him. They dated when he was younger. So, I get it. She's going to always speak up. for Mike. And I just look forward to that Shaka. Con Stephanie. I look forward to getting. older like aging and then telling y'all. all the happened in life that I was. holding it down for when it happened.

>> Like all the [ __ ] that I just kept in. the vault and a secret. Yeah, I'm. spilling the beans when I hit 67. >> Shaka Khan in the airport. >> I'm telling all of it. >> Anytime they catch her coming out the. airport, a story is happening. >> A story is happening. Let me tell you. about Paul McCartney stling ass. [laughter]. >> She told me some things off the record. that like I I I have tried to get her to. say on the record and she won't. But. [ __ ] that would blow your [ __ ] mind. >> I love Shak. >> Uh not yet. >> But I hope to one day get the interview.

that will blow my mind. >> No doubt for sure. >> Um. >> I wanted to ask him too, but I didn't. want to [laughter] come off. >> Don't care about No, I have not. If. that's what you're asking. >> Yeah, I was going to ask. >> Yeah. No. Mm- No. >> Shak still look good. She did that. little%. >> She did that little colors. >> Yeah. >> What was that? Colors. Whatever. >> Mhm. She look good. Yo, why you making. no faces? >> Yo. >> Huh? >> What' you say? >> I'm just a big fan of the song. >> I know. >> Oh, through the fire. Um, we got uh E. you said something earlier. We said you.

e you said something earlier about. having some money issues. >> Oh, I mean I got money issues every day, but. >> No, no, not like that kind of money. issues. >> No, no, no. Um, yeah. I woke up this. morning and you know I was just checking. because I had did my whole little uh. withdrawal process from Patreon. So, [laughter] you know what I'm saying? >> And um. >> come to find out that I had like a a a. fraud happen to my account where someone. pretty much like did a bunch of online. charges like almost up to like $6,700.

>> Hey. And they picked yours. >> That's you had $6,700. >> Yeah. No. overdrawnus [laughter]. 48. over like a [ __ ] boy. [laughter]. >> If it is, I say something about. >> keep playing. >> Keep playing. >> Hey yo, this [ __ ] is a. >> Yeah. So I I was tight. I was tight. Call, you know, I have to go through the. whole process of, yo, my car. Boom. Boom. They're going to do the whole. investigation. Takes up to 90 days.

We'll send you out a new card. You know, all that. >> How long rush take to get the cards out? So they said [laughter] so they don't. understand what you said. >> That's my That's my one. We good. >> We got it. We good. We got it. [laughter] They got it. They said. normally normally. >> the rush card. Yo, that's crazy. >> Normally it's 4 to 6 days to get your. new car, but they said because it's a. fraud thing, you know, they're going to. expedite it. So it should be here in one. day. >> Overnight. >> So overnight. So I appreciate that. But. I was just like me up like yo. Well, what's interesting is cuz I had the same. thing. I had a large amount of money.

taken out of my account. >> really. >> recently. >> Uh in the last few months. And you had a. fraud situation, too. [laughter]. >> I'm just. >> Wait, what the the one the one you spoke. about publicly up here? Not you. [laughter]. >> You got to be careful. You got to be. careful. Yeah, that one. Not [laughter]. Not no other fudge. So, >> we don't think you involved with no. other. >> F. [laughter]. Yeah. Not you. Come on. That [ __ ] got.

nerfed. >> [laughter]. >> It happened to you too. >> God damn. Not just the same but. >> recently. [snorts]. [laughter]. >> This [ __ ] so nervous he. man. >> What? Vlad. What happened with Vlad? >> I'm just I don't know. Just been a wave. of. >> All right. Fraud coming up happening. here. >> You think we being targeted? Uh yeah, but I mean when I was broke. then it would actually go into the.

negative. This time there was actually. money in there. So. >> I'm sorry about that. >> It hurt. [clears throat] It hurt. It. hurt. But I mean they said they going to. do that. What they going to do? They. they do put the money back. They said. that they will put the money back. >> Um and then at the after the 90 days of. investigating if it comes to be sure. that it's fraud stays, if they decide. that it's not fraud that they going to. take the money back. So. >> but they trust you. >> They trust. I mean we'll see what. happens. Moving up, man. We'll see what. happens. >> So they didn't put it Did they put it. back yet?

>> I didn't check. >> Oh, that means no. >> They didn't put it back yet. >> I mean, they don't need to check. >> I was about to say that mean he good. That's what it mean. Mean he going out. tonight popped. [laughter]. >> More than 67 cuz this this little. kurfuffle ain't going to stop him from. hitting the streets. >> Oh no. Listen. If it was going to be. popped, I ain't going outside. I ain't. going outside. Pop. >> He had more than $6,700 in his. what I'm saying. Yes, it is what you. saying. >> That's not what I was driving. >> You said, "Yo, he popped for the 6700.".

>> If you lose seven grand out of nowhere. and it ain't Somebody ain't put it back. You popped a little bit. >> I was popped. >> I'm not saying he's broke. I'm saying, "Yeah, they popped." You feel You feel. You feel [laughter]. That's what I'm saying. You feeling a. little bit. >> Oh, no. No. >> Wait, let me ask yall a question. >> He ain't just going to be buying a bunch. of drinks for girls tonight. >> One, two, get his little juice. >> If I wased up, I wouldn't have came to. work. >> I'd have found that my mental health. day. I ain't going there. I'm tight. If. you lose money, you don't go to work. >> Word.

>> Oh, don't start. [laughter]. >> I forgot. >> You got a DIFFERENT. [laughter]. me when I told you join the clipper. program. You told me no. >> You think the Wait, >> I told him the same thing. >> I will back out of one down program is. down 6700. I got I got a clip. I'mma. [laughter] get you some clippers and I'm. flip. >> and I'mma get you the broker [laughter].

program. >> Program wouldn't even felt that 67. >> Exactly. >> Now [ __ ] keep looking down. >> He keep checking way for you. >> N you convinced them. [ __ ]. >> T. >> Yeah. That [ __ ] keep refreshing. [laughter]. So you pull it down and it don't. refresh. Hold for a second. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You mean. frustrating. >> Turn the phone off. >> Like you looking at prospects. You be. [laughter] mad. prospects be on the. second quarter. >> [ __ ] be in the middle of the third. [ __ ] ain't update yet. >> You got to cancel that. Open it back up.

>> [ __ ] Annoying, bro. >> Well, hopefully everybody's accounts are. all right. What did What did your. accountant say when you told. >> What do you mean? >> I didn't talk to accountant. I'm not. like, >> I'm not there yet. Joe, [laughter]. >> you said life was. >> Oh, how you playing? How y'all playing? Y'all [laughter] bring your games up in. here. I had a [ __ ] rob you. >> If Burn is the account, then I'm going. to say he [laughter] got it. >> I'm going to say it wasn't no fraud.

Let's Let's get the. >> I was sitting there saying, "Wait, all. three of y'all have it?" And how soon? Like how long ago? >> Uh in the last year after last month. after our sister started, right? >> Who? Oh, see. N [laughter] cuz she on. slide. You for real. Putting that on. her. >> Don't put that on my girl. Shout out to. Mona. Spirit. We love you. Mon has some going. on. And I don't I don't find it funny at. all the joke y'all making about three. people getting targeted, Ammani just.

happening last night and then one person. calling out of work the very next day. [laughter]. >> I don't think I don't think there's no. correlation in that [ __ ] I don't. >> we not doing that. But if I just bump in. just a extra [laughter] 67. weekend. drink [laughter]. today. weekend. [laughter].

[laughter]. is stupid idiot. [clears throat] Yo. [laughter] yo yo think you think you. know a guy. [ __ ] swear. >> [ __ ] as the bar gets longer parks do the. the numbers man like MOTHER [laughter]. ass [ __ ] it's 408 this [ __ ]. >> it's over I just want I just want to. play uh this new secretary uh the press. secretary at the white house.

she she gone over. >> she gone over. >> they fired they fired [laughter] last. night. THEY FIRED I YELLED AT YOU WHEN YOU. OUTSIDE. >> I'M SO MAD ABOUT THAT. >> THEY FIRED HER, BRO. >> I still got to play the OG. [laughter]. >> I still got to play the OG. They say why. they fired her? >> Cuz she's so They accepted her. resignation. Do they have to? >> I see what you [laughter] do. >> They accepted her resignation. >> Yo, this this SNL skit is going to be. hilarious. >> Amazing. [clears throat]. >> This is funny now that she's fired, but.

maybe not. >> No. >> Nah, this still funny. Good morning. >> Good morning. >> Working Americans are lining up and. packing arenas to support President. Trump and Republicans. It's not hard to see why he delivers on. every promise. >> Well, she went to my alma mater. In. addition to we will be. yes $54 billion $120 billion.

>> to build a to build a and now we are. >> now y'all made me sad now man [ __ ] my. 10year-old read way better than her. >> with Venezuela American energy dominance. because energy security and with that. I will take [music] your questions. um we will take Peter Ducey the. president as he is his own best. spokesperson and [music] will absolutely. be leading the way as with us. So my.

president or excuse me [music] my. husband uh that's a that's a good one. >> Yo, how do you think she got this? >> Yo, I'm so. now now that now that. >> that's where I got to salute the. Trumpster. >> Yeah, come on. Yo, keep bounty. That's. where I got to That's where I got to soo. the old school pick up. [laughter]. >> That's a old school move. Trump spent a. lot of time in the hood. [clears throat]. He seen pull that. I pulled that move. before, man. >> Need a job. I got you.

>> You go go high something that you young. took. Took him to the stew. >> Be my personal assistant. >> That's what you told him. >> She had a rough week, man. >> I was I was alive for the era when. [ __ ] fake the video. >> Oh, that's a fact. Cuz [ __ ] ain't. never. >> [ __ ] fake your whole video. Get on. there. >> You lying. That's a lot. >> I seen him do it. >> That's I know mad [ __ ] did 100%. >> Book him for the video shoot and ain't. no video. >> Yeah. Ain't no video.

>> So you just had your man being the. camera. >> with a phone. [laughter]. with a. >> flashlight? Yes. A phone. [ __ ]. >> they was doing that. All right. So Trump. is knocking this white chick down that's. married for sure. He sounds like. somebody else up here. [laughter]. I mean, I can't [ __ ] on trumpet. That's. my one of my man. You know what I mean? >> What he [laughter]. trying to figure out WHO ARE YOU TALKING.

ABOUT? [laughter] LIKE, MAN, WHO COULD IT BE? >> I DON'T GET THE JOKE. >> A rough week, man. I'm only I'm only mad. about this because that was going to. make for great entertainment for the. remainder of his term one and two. I was. coming in here to walk back everything I. said about Duski and the White Face. stuff. >> because once this happened I was like, "Oh, you have to do White Face now on. Saturday Night Live. You have to do this. lady." I thought they gave this lady the. job partly for Drewki to do that.

[laughter]. >> I'm not going to lie. But but now that. they fired a. >> Trump said in the press conference this. week or not this week, a couple hours. ago, he said she'd been treated very. unfairly and that uh she probably. doesn't even deserve this or or this job. she's too good for this job and he's. going to let her decide whether she. keeps the job or not and then like an. hour later she resigned. >> So this was very clearly one of them. like we going to push her out uh as soon. as possible cuz they were getting. embarrassed by it earlier. >> She had to go dog. She had to go man.

She was saying she was, you know, she. was using esquire after her name even. though she didn't pass the bar. Like it. was a lot of little things that people. didn't like. >> People do that. >> Yeah, but not at that high a position. [laughter]. >> You shady as. fair. She'll probably get a new position. somewhere in his. >> Oh, she going to get a new position. >> She might be old position. >> She probably a missionary somewhere. >> Yeah, she'll be all right. >> She'll land on the feet. or knees. [laughter]. It's going to be something on the legs.

though. >> My la my very last question for for for. you gentlemen. >> is. >> what the hell do we need the the flying. Tesla for? Did you guys see the new. Tesla? >> I'm all excited. >> Did you see the commercial for the new. Tesla? >> It's not happening. But. >> fact, >> and this is the vehicle that they. announced in what was it 2016? >> 2014 I think it was 14. somewhere around. there. They announced it. >> and now they're saying that that they'll. be able to deliver these around 2028,

2029. >> No, they won't. >> Sure. [laughter]. >> Deliver them where. >> exactly, >> [ __ ] That [ __ ] is for stock price. >> That's for little little game. >> Investors uh uh involved. >> I don't know why they showing us a car. flipping over. >> a flying car. >> Yeah, >> [ __ ] can't get it right on the. roads. >> Mark, we love you, bro. >> Thank you, bro. later. >> Peace, bro. >> Yeah, that that commercial was. >> Yeah, >> ladies doing Yeah. >> Y'all see a new Porsche? Porsche?

>> I did. I did. >> Shit's fire. >> It ain't bad. It ain't bad. It is fire. >> It's nice. It's nice. All right, that's. all I got. That's all I got. I ain't got. nothing for it. What. >> just picked up his. >> Yeah, Mark has the mercy. Mark is Mark's. dealing with something. I didn't really. even think he would be at work, but he's. a professional, so. >> that's dope. >> Shout out to Mark. We love Mark. Uh, >> love you, bro. >> And we did it anyway. >> We did. Oh, we did. We did it. >> Hey, my unlikely music take, man. In another.

world, I could see it. I I could see a. day where we get a sequel to this album. >> I can see it, too. I could after. watching the the show, >> listening listening to what he was. saying. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think he he uh. >> better man than I am. >> Yeah. >> I think he has a different. >> If true. If true. >> A different understanding of Kanye than. the public does. So that wasn't true. about it being reported that he shot. that before the whole. >> his hair was still long. So it was. older. >> So some [music] people said that that. was shot before the Kanye comments about.

the kids and stuff. >> Oh, I don't because that was a couple. years ago, wasn't it? >> Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't think it this was that old. I. could be wrong. >> Listen, man. Thoughts and prayers to. everybody out there. Yo, rest in peace. uh uh Bishop Regante. Just cuz you've. been on my mind. I'm actually doing a um. I'm doing a uh interview for a. documentary about him this weekend. >> Oh, that's fire. >> That's my That's my man. That's my man. Shout out to him. I love you and I miss. you, man. Shout out to your family. >> Word. >> Yo, hopefully y'all enjoyed this. broadcast as much as we've enjoyed. delivering it to you. Keep us in your.

prayers. Lord knows each and every one. of us need to be there. Especially if. you heard this broadcast. >> Don't skip a Don't skip a prayer for. [laughter] none of none of the people. here. >> We need it. Until next time, we bid you a do. farewell. Adios arriva. vista arvoir. So long goodbye or a. simple head knob will suffice. Remember. life is a series of moments and moments. pass. So let's make this one last as if. it's all we have.

Last but certainly not least, the. baddies are insecure. The stagnant women. want to travel when the close-minded. women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Advil. You might need it. What's everybody on this weekend? What's. everybody on this week? I know where I'm. at tomorrow night. Celebrate. >> We lit. That's it. >> Happy Bday, man. Happy sleeping. Thank. you. Thank you. >> Have the mushrooms out. >> Oh, say less. >> Oh, yeah. I can't drink. Please have a. couple of mushrooms, please. >> Are you still not going to drink? >> Yeah. It's my birthday, bro. You got.

>> I can't drink, but I I'll have some. mushrooms. >> I got to get my my my guy. Well, you. can't drink cuz that's 6700. [laughter]. >> Oh [ __ ] Yo, [ __ ] I run your pockets. right now and drink off you, [ __ ]. >> That's true. That's fact. That's fact. Got on my phone. Ain't. >> nothing [laughter] running for nothing. >> Uh yeah, we turning up for Park's. birthday uh tonight. Tonight, uh. Saturday morning, Sunday morning, I'll. be showing up for my mom and dad for. their anniversary. That's it.

Congratulations to my parents. Congratulations. Absolutely. Love y'all. Love you, Miss F. Sorry again. >> And at some point, I'll try to make it. out with my fiance or without my fiance, but I'm hitting the streets. >> See how that kind man sound. You know. what I mean? See how that kind man sound. outside in the strip club. Come out. >> Stop by um GK. >> Maybe. Maybe. >> tonight. It should be good. >> There's a new venue. I don't I don't I. don't know about enough about the venue. >> All right. I I'll call you. It's another. GLK.

>> Uh they're doing a a live event. >> tonight. >> HK Hall. Yeah, it's another already. happened now that [music] you're. watching. >> Yeah. Yeah. If you're hearing this, it. happened already. But they didn't need. our help for a sellout. >> Yeah. Salute to them. >> That's it, man. What y'all doing this. weekend? Anything? >> I'm going to sing tonight. >> You want to sing? >> Yeah. >> What are you going to sing? >> Superstar. >> No, I'm not. >> Oh, I got themar. >> I ain't uploaded. I got them though. >> I'm singing [music] tonight though. >> I got him. >> Singing superstar. >> and Climax. >> I got him. >> He's also fans. >> Yeah.

>> And a singer. >> Yeah. You got to get off your dick. Yo, [laughter] you can't sing Climax after. Jay-Z, the [ __ ] y big up every two. days. Climax out. We love Jay-Z, man. Uh, >> I love Jay-Z. OG. >> I absolutely love Jay-Z. You I hate it. when they did that. [laughter] I I. absolutely hated that little car. Completely unnecessary. I know that was. Kanye in here trying to be quirky. Hell. somebody to do. Yeah. Get the [ __ ] out. of here. >> Anyway, I'm done. Uh, final thoughts.

Final thoughts. Did it again. [laughter]. >> God damn. Anyway, any final thoughts? Final thoughts. We all all hearts and. minds clear. >> Hearts and minds clear. >> Hearts and minds clear. >> Parks weekend, man. Parks weekend. >> That's it. We outside. We inside. >> Yes, sir. Uh, and we got some good. weather. Won't be raining. Won't be. raining. >> So, yeah, we lit. >> Um, is you in town this weekend? You. back in DC? >> Pull up. I can't go out that many weekends in a. row.

>> Goddamn right. Goddamn right. She put. belt to that white ass. [laughter]. >> Yeah. You was doing too much. You seen. pictures going around. >> She said six in a row is enough. Wifey. put belt to ass. >> The print got you in trouble. >> Yeah. You in DC with dick out. Get your. ass home. >> [ __ ] ain't never said I was going to. homecoming. I was working on a home. >> Yeah. Yeah. That [ __ ] ain't fly. Well, now. [laughter]. here that was a good joke. >> You better whisper it, too.

>> I was home stupid coming. [laughter]. >> Yo, till next time, y'all. Hold it down, man. Yada yada yada. Hopefully y'all. have enjoyed this broadcast. Listen, other podcasters, please don't shoot at. me. I don't want no beef, man. I don't. want I I don't want no smoke. I'm. chilling. I feel like I was in here. running my mouth today. >> No. No. No. No. Enough for daddy. Enough for daddy.

Enough for daddy. >> Where else? Where else? Joey. So crazy. They're always so nice. [music]. >> JBP. [singing] JBP. Where would you be. without JBP? If you think I'M HERE TO PLAY AROUND. WITH Y'ALL, GOD DAMN. neutral button. >> [crying].