Use These DAILY HACKS To Reverse Aging & Live Over 120+ YEARS OLD! | Dave Asprey

Anytime you do something that makes your. brain or your body evolve, it will. involve discomfort. But suffering comes. when you resist the discomfort. When I. test my brain on the neuroscience stuff. from my neuroscience company, I have the. response time in my brain of a. 20-year-old. And it linearly goes up. with age and part of superhuman, the. anti-aging thing. No, I've got the data. It shows I have a 20-year-old's brain. And it's awesome because I can keep up. Otherwise, I wouldn't. That's. incredible. I can't wait to test that. out. I'd love to see how old my brain. is. I'd be pretty Who's brain has. fascinated you the most that you've.

tested? Whose brain is Well, I mean, a. lot of times I there's confidentiality. This is 40 Years of Zen. He doesn't have to tell me who it is. Got it. Yeah, don't tell me who it is. Okay. So So, this is a. uh neuroscience institute 5-day. intensive program in Seattle, custom. hardware software, all all this clinical. grade stuff to see what's going on in. there and then to performance tune it. like a race car for your brain. And I mean, we've had some of the. spiritual leaders from South America. come through. Uh one of the guys is really. fascinating. Actually, he's public about.

this. Uh Dr. Barry Morgalon. He's one of. 12 living grandmasters of Lao Tzu's oral. heritage. Wow. And uh he's spoken at the. Bulletproof conference and uh just a. good friend, been on the show a couple. times. So, this guy is Dr. Strange. Literally, he went to the the monastery. They interviewed him before they wrote. Dr. Strange. And he he just has these. abilities. He works with Tony Robbins. and works with me before I I go on stage. and things like that. And some You know,

presidents of countries kind of guy. Uh. so, you look at his brain waves and. you're like, "This is not a normal human being." And. some guys like him, if he turns it up all the way, he'll. fuzz out the gear. Literally, you're. looking at brain waves and all that. stuff and all of a sudden you can't get. a clean signal. Yeah. And this is something intrinsic in our. biology. You talk about real. superhumans. You look at the people who are way. outliers, those are where the most. interesting thing happens. Because do we. take you and me and how do we turn up.

our abilities to do that? Because we all. have that in us. And that was one of the. reasons I wanted to write this book. It. might take a few decades. So, you're going to need more decades or. you might cheat. That's. what I'm doing on the neuroscience. front. I love that. Yeah, no. I I'm excited to. share because when my book come out, I've got a ton of research on the minds. of monks. So, I know we have a lot of. similarities there and I'm fascinated by. how monks meditations can switch like. you were saying on and off like a. switch, you know, just from compassion. to empathy to to focus to discipline.

without even a second of warm up. We've been studying this for 30 40. years, but traditional neuroscience is. all about seizures and surgery and and. things like that. But now in the. neurofeedback category, we know what's a. carrier wave, we know what's happening. down at delta, we know what's happening. at alpha in a meditator versus a monk. And the reason that my program is 40. years is then is it's meant to replace. 40 years of daily practice of meditation. cuz hurry meditate faster, there's.

nothing wrong with that. That's incredible. And and have you seen. how how have you seen the results. compare? Uh it it's ridiculous. What you. end up with it if you were to spend all. that time studying and I've been to. Tibet to learn meditation from the. masters. In fact, I I first had yak. butter tea, which was the inspiration. for Bulletproof Coffee in Tibet when I. was there to learn meditation. And it. was like, wait, what? This stuff is more. powerful than after some something just. happened with this weird mixing tea or. mixing butter and things. But you look at what happens there is.

while you learn, you know, there's seven. layers of hell and all this wisdom and. depending on whether you're looking at a. Hindu perspective or a Buddhist. perspective or, you know, there's other. traditional Chinese things or there's. European. So, there's all these lineages. and heritages and shamanic training and. all these things and and I've I've had a. chance to to learn some of those. But. there's wisdom and then there's the felt. state. Mhm. And what you can do is you can. achieve the felt state using the tools. of breathing, tools of meditation, tools.

of neurofeedback, and you can be there. But, without at least some guidance, you might not know where you are. You. just know it feels really different, and. you can kind of blow your mind open. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and and I've. I've noticed that I think for a lot of. people who come from non-spiritual. traditions or backgrounds, a lot of this. is great. It also just giving them a. window into the fact that this exists. Yeah. And it's possible. And I think the felt. state is a much more tangible experience. for them to believe that it's not just. some elusive thing, but it's it's real.

Yeah. I didn't believe any of this. I'm. a computer science, computer hacker, weighed 300 lb, come up from a family of. engineers, and anyone who'd believe this. is clearly stupid. That's how I was. raised. Yeah. And when you feel. something, you go, "Whoa, what's There's. a signal in here that might be useful.". And then you realize it's actually not. just useful, it's hackable, and you can. choose the felt state, and you can use. that to sense the world around you and. to connect with people and things. It was a pretty big awakening for me, but it it's part of the path. And what I.

discovered, and the reason I went down. the Bulletproof path at the same time. doing the 40 Years of Zen, if you want to do personal development, you want to meditate, you want to. improve your brain, doing it on french fries doesn't It. doesn't work. You have to get your. biology in order, because if your cells. don't make energy, it's subcellular. components that drive most of your felt. state. And if they're running at half. power, how are you going to have enough. energy to, you know, wake up, you know, have whatever you have in the morning, uh take care of of yourself, take care.

of your family, your community? Oh, and. have time and energy left over to do the. deep personal work to, you know, let go. of a childhood thing or, uh you know, reach a new state of. performance? No, you were too tired cuz. your cells didn't work. So, eat right, and then do the meditative practice, and. you'll get more results in less time. And you. went through that experience, too, right? Cuz you were 22, 300 lbs. I was 300 lbs, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Tell me Tell us about. that journey just before we dive into. all of this incredible insight. Tell us. about that journey and transition of. when you came to the point where you. were like.

there is more out there, but even before. that, this what I'm doing to my biology. isn't good for me. Well, it's really weird. Anyone who's. fat will will tell you at some level. they know they're fat cuz we have a. mirror. You know what I mean? You have a. scale. My pants keep getting tight. What. what do I do here? And then you say, "Well, I'm going to try to do. something." And trying to do something. is already presupposing failure. It's I. call it a weasel word in in my books. And what you end up with is you say, "All right, I'm going to do what's. supposed to work." And anyone who's ever.

read anything says, "Oh, we must be meat. robots. Therefore, it's calories in, calories out." So, I did that. I worked. out for an hour and a half a day, 6 days. a week for 18 months. Was that hard at that time? hard. And although exercise is addictive. when you do it like that, you get the. endorphins, you get a rush from it. So, it's hard to stop exercising. And you. There I know people are addicted like. they I can't do anything that got to go. exercise. That's not a healthy state. All right? That means you're you're.

stuck with the endorphins, the runner's. high, whatever. And for me, I went on a. low-fat, low-calorie diet. And at the. end of this, I still weighed 300 lbs. I I could max. out the machines. It wasn't 300 lbs of. muscle. I was covered in flab. I still. was a 46-in waist. I'm a 33-in waist. right now. And. I I just I looked around and I said, "Maybe it's cuz I'm eating too much. lettuce." That That was my math. Right? It's cuz I'm not trying hard enough. Yeah. And and and. seriously, all my friends are eating. double Western bacon cheeseburgers, and.

I'm eating the salad with no chicken and. no dressing, and I'm hungry, just so. hungry. And I'm just putting all my. willpower into this, and I don't care if. I'm sick, I don't care if I have final. exams, I'm going to go to the gym. And. just that of failure, but it became a a. self-worth problem. And then I said, one day, I'm actually doing all this, and I'm not getting the results. It must. be. what I'm doing doesn't work. And then. you start digging in the research, and I. started trying all the different. variations on diets, and went really.

deep in the corners of the internet. And. this is back in the late '90s. So, you. people didn't even use the internet for. this kind of stuff, but I'd find weird. researchers, and I would just test it. all. Because I was computer science, I'm. building the internet as we know it. I'm. pretty sure that I should I'd be able to. just hack this dumb meat body. Um and the idea of hacking is that you. can take control of a system, you can. manipulate it without understanding. what's inside. You test inputs and. outputs. So, all right. That actually. works really well in biology, but it's.

not what medicine does. It's a different. thing. It's what bodybuilders do. It's. what the anti-aging community does. It's. what Navy SEALs do. And heck, it's what. people own resources do to their. resources. So, how do we apply that to. ourselves? And I said, all right, I'm going to get. over this childhood. I've had arthritis. in my knee since I was 14. And it I. found out later when I reverse. engineered it all, I lived in a house. that had toxic mold, and I poisoned the. mitochondria in my body. So, I repaired. that damage, and I said, wait, there's. there's always new levels, things I can.

do where I didn't think I'd I'd look the. way I look, I'd feel the way I feel, I'd. be able to do what I do. And I can, and I'm continuously getting. powerful and younger and faster. My. brain works better. Uh I just mentioned. about ping pong. To see the actual data, and to see the scan, oh, I have 87th. percentile hippocampal volume, the. hippocampus in the brain. Look, I started out fat and sick. If I. can do this, I'm pretty sure that. someone who started out reasonably.

healthy with a normal body weight and. normal biology has huge advantages. But, everyone listening to this right now, you're thinking, "Okay, how I how I feel now, how I've always. felt, that's pretty much normal, but. you're totally wrong. That's just what. you've experienced." But, if you could. feel five times better and 10 times more. energy, you would never know because you never. felt it. 100%. So, our job is to just teach people, "Here's the tools to tap into it in the. least possible amount of time and money. because it's there.".

And it feels like that's the energy, that experimentation. at that stage has led to now this. decision or aspiration to live to 180. years old. Like, why why why 180. specifically? Because I'm sure there's. some math behind that, I'm assuming. And. and why why want to live longer anyway? For you. No, it's at least 180. I don't want to. put a cap on it. Okay. Important difference there. Great. Okay. Now, the math is really straightforward. We.

know we can do 120 cuz we've seen it. And those people they drank, they. smoked, they went through. Let's see, what was happening 120 years. ago? It was 1900. There's no cars. They haven't been invented yet. There's no microwaves. World War I, World War II haven't happened. Antibiotics haven't been discovered. DNA, they couldn't even spell it back then. Yeah. True. True. The Krebs cycle, for matter. of We didn't know much at all about how.

our bodies work, and they still lived. 120. Yeah. Okay. But, they weren't exposed to as. much trauma as we are. Oh, no, they had. more trauma than we did. Exposure. They. had more trauma literally in the world. Yeah. But, not necessarily exposure on a. daily basis. Do you know the odds of having one of. your siblings die 120 years ago? The reason you had five or six kids is. cuz a couple of them weren't going to. make it. Mhm. Okay. Like, a redundant array of. inexpensive kids, they invented it back. then. In fact, we invented that in.

society back then. So, people grew up. with their family members dying. You. didn't know if anyone would come home. You couldn't call them on their cell. phone. Someone gets on a boat, they. don't come back. You don't Maybe you'll. get a letter 3 months later. People. disappeared all the time. It was a. pretty shitty time. Oh, we didn't even. talk about polio. We didn't talk about. all the diseases that just wiped people. out that generally don't get us anymore. You go to the doctor, they're going to. cut your arm off with a rusty saw. Like this is the state of people who. lived to 120 now. Now,

I'm just going to have to say it. How. old are you? I'm 32. 32, all right. So, let's think what it's going to be like. 120 years from now, given that we can. rely on the internet, we can look at. PubMed. I couldn't write these books. Each of the books, the Superhuman book. would have been a lifetime of research. in a library using microfiche and card. catalogs and all this crap. But, the. fact that I can pull together this. information and I have the weird brain. that synthesizes it and I can talk to. these experts, all of this is enabled by. technology in the last 20 years. Mhm. Do you think that we can't add 50% to.

the maximum human lifespan over the next. 100 and 50 for you, 148 years? Like, put on your future hat and realize. exponential rates of growth. You have a. very good chance of living way, way, way. beyond 180 if there's still soil on the. planet. Uh if a comet doesn't hit us, right? And if essentially we take care. of the world enough. Mhm. So, that that. that's the big one. That's the big one. of the world enough. But, here's the. other reason that we need more highly.

energetic old people. Mhm. In all societies that I studied, and. it's in like the first chapter of. Superhuman, I I talk about the quest for. immortality is a something that's. happened as long as we've had recorded. history. Going back to the Egyptians, going back to the alchemists, going back. to the Hindu traditions, the Chinese. traditions, the South American. traditions, they've all been searching. for this. Mhm. And things like Taoism. are tied directly towards that quest for. how do I live forever as a highly. functioning, highly energetic, evolved.

person. Well, we've always had village elders. So, what would happen is the young monks. would go into the monastery and the. 80-year-old llama would look at them and. say, "All right, here's what we've. learned and I learned this from my. elders and I learned it from my elders.". In fact, in Laozi's tradition, 5,000. years of unbroken oral history passed. down from the elders. Well, elders. today, unfortunately, a lot of them. Alzheimer's disease, heart attacks, retirement homes, and we started seeing. our elders rather than as sources of.

knowledge and wisdom, the people who can. guide us the best, we started seeing. them as. tubes, monitors, diapers, wheelchairs, and expenses. And that's actually never. happened. all of history it hasn't happened. So, I go out of my way to interview. people who are over 90 cuz, man, they've. got, you know, 50 years on me. And what did they learn that I'm. probably going to learn and what can. they what pain can I avoid from. listening to them? Would I like them to be 120 and still.

have fully functioning vibrant lives so. I could learn even more and they could. share it? Heck, yeah. Would the world. needs that? Plus, Jay, if you're going to live for. hundreds of years more, you aren't going to throw the plastic. bottle in the ocean. You realize, oh my. god, I'd better not in my own. sandbox because I'm going to be in the. sandbox for a very long time. I'm not. going to hand it off to the next. generation the way currently the boomers. are getting blamed. And it's funny cuz. the boomers are saying, "Well, wait, we. inherited World War I and World War II.

from you old people, but they're all. dead so we can't blame you anymore.". We just keep going back and back and. back. Yeah, and they're saying, "We. inherited this from, you know, the Civil. War." And it just it goes it goes back. forever. We always inherit this, but the. scope of inheritance is going to change. And. anyone who has kids is unlikely to say, "You know, I'd like to have kids three. times throughout my 200 years." They're. you're going to have kids, you're going. to put so much energy and life into them. the way all parents do, right? You're. going to enjoy seeing them flourish, but. we're we're not going to worry about an. overpopulation problem, and the data.

supports what I'm saying very, very. clearly. Japan, US, most Western. countries, the birth rate's gone down, populations are declining, and so is the. fertility rate. So, we don't have to. worry about global population just wait. 50 years, it won't be a problem. I'm. intrigued. I'm fascinated. I'm. fascinated. The reason is because it's. We're talking about also and I I want to. get your thoughts on this because we. were we were talking about different. things there. You're talking about. obviously the the physical abilities. have increased, but with the rise of. mental health Yeah. even even if it is.

with less trauma, the way we're able to process traumatic. events or tragedy tragedies or. challenges seems to be struggling. It's funny I'm just intrigued. I'm just. I'm just throwing it out there. I want. to get your perspective. I'm I'm not. negative at all. I'm just trying to It. doesn't sound negative. You ever There's a documentary uh. that come out that came out recently. that's called They Shall Not Grow Old. I've never seen it. It's about World War. I. Oh my god, the toughness, the resilience.

of of these guys. It's unimaginable. And they interview. people who are still alive from World. War I, but they show footage and they. they tell these stories and and you're. saying, "No human walk in the face of. the earth today could do what these guys. did.". Exactly. So, isn't that a challenge in. lasting longer? Because if the. resilience and grit was so much more. higher then that people could lose their. family member, the family member never. came back from the boat, but they never. Did they have the mental health. challenge? They never talked about it. They never They couldn't share on social. media like or did they just not Did they.

just not feel it? Whereas today we're. overly sensitive and. they felt it, but how you felt just. didn't matter as much. It was how you. showed up in the world. So, they they'd. cram it down. I don't know how happy. they were. There's war veterans. People. knew that people came back from war. changed. But, there's also there was a. community, and there's something else. that happens. Most of the time, if you took a big hit. to the head, you just died. So, now we. have a lot more traumatic brain injury. and people who survive horrific injuries. who come back with more trauma. But our. technologies for dealing with trauma,

even some of the neuroscience stuff, the. the things that are a big focus for me. at 40 Years of Zen, and you you deal. with it nutritionally, you put them in a. hyperbaric chamber, you can heal almost. any emotional trauma and so many. physical traumas. The problem is when a. physical trauma ties to an emotional. trauma, it doesn't work. You can also. precondition people. A lot of a lot of. times people just don't know about the. research. Something called heart rate variability. It's a a core part of what what I teach. people. This is how to change the.

spacing between your heartbeats. When you're relaxed in a meditative. state, you have a higher change in the. spacing between your heartbeats. Same. number of beats per minute, but the. pattern of the beats changes. Well, if you teach soldiers to do this. before they go into combat or kids. before they get bullied, it doesn't. really matter. It your body thinks it's. the same thing. You actually don't walk away from that. with PTSD. Yeah. You can precondition. for it. So, what we could do is we can. teach resilience. 100%. And I wasn't necessarily highly. resilient, but I am now. And.

this is just missing from our. curriculum. Correct. It is a neuroscience state. It's it's. you can define it, you can measure it, you can quantify it, and then you can. put a moral judgment on it. Yes. There There shouldn't be a moral. judgment. Yeah. I Yeah. I know. You used. to be able to You go to church and you. know, you've been bad, right? Or what. whatever the the pattern of your church. was, but people now are abandoning. religion. Religion provided some of.

that. The the prayer before your meal. You don't have to pray to a specific. deity that someone told you had to, but. you can provide a sense of gratitude, which is the real nugget there. Mhm. Without gratitude, you can't do. forgiveness. Mhm. Without gratitude, you. stay in fight or flight. So, you can. program these things in, but what does. gratitude actually look like in the. brain and in the heart? You can measure. those and you can look I can sit here. across from you with your wired up and I. can say you're actually not feeling.

grateful. You said you were grateful and. you lied to yourself. And hold you accountable to that. That. is amazing, right? too. Yeah, yeah, I love that too. And I. and I hope that one day we can all have. that next so we know we're not lying to. ourselves. Because it's fun being a lie. detector for other people, but it's. better being a lie detector for. ourselves and That's why we have. coaches. That's why we have gurus. That's why we have friends. Yes. The. problem is that you're very likely to. get angry at a friend or a coach when. they really call you out on your BS. I'm going to get angry at your phone. How how angry are you going to get at. but the data is the data. And that's.

what I do. It's one of the most. important impactful things in my life. has been the 40 years of Zen training. Where when I do that. if there's something that I'm hiding. from myself, I'm not going to know it. I'm going to look you in the eye and I'm. going to deny it and you're going to do. the same thing to me because our ability. to look inside ourselves is very low, but when you have a a mirror right here, oh, I have spinach in my teeth. Yeah. But you're not going to know you. have spinach in your teeth until. somebody tells you unless they're really. close to you. Yeah. Exactly. What what I. love about you though when I'm hearing. you speak and and I've never I guess I.

guess you don't when you meet someone. you you you unearth things differently. and it's like you really have this great. juxtaposition between wisdom and science. which I think so powerful and beautiful. and you started off there. And I think. when it's either or it can get slightly. lost sometimes. They have to align. And. one of the reasons I I created this. field of biohacking and it's now a word. in the dictionary in I think 2018 they. added it to Merriam-Webster's and my. name's in there. And I created this big conference around. it as I wanted to take the data that we.

can now get for the first time ever. things about that heart rate variability. neuroscience and something called the. exposome, which is the measure of all. the things you're exposed to in your. environment over the course of your life. that changes your genetics. Mhm. It This is a data set we'll never. actually collect all of it. It's like a. real. a full-size map of California isn't very. useful cuz it's as big as the state, right? Yeah, absolutely. But we're able to gather so much data. that we can now validate things. Like in. the book before Superhuman, I wanted to.

test a Taoist equation. The These guys are looking to live. forever and they say flat out, "If. you're a guy and you want to live. forever, you should use this equation to. control how frequently you ejaculate cuz. it'll make you old if you ejaculate too. much.". And I looked at that and I said, "That's. complete BS. I have to test it and. disprove this BS." And I ended up. publishing a year's worth of data and I. interviewed other experts in the field. and it turns out for guys, there really. is an orgasm hangover. Mhm. Right? And.

what I'm not saying have less sex, I'm. just saying decide how often you're. going to ejaculate. I would have said the data would not. support that and what I'm finding is the. more I dig deep in in shamanic knowledge. and you say, "How could that possibly. work?" And then I go and I I look at the. neuroscience of it like, "Oh my god, these people couldn't using our language. and our tech, they couldn't explain it.". Correct, for our time. But they learned by watching for. generations and their elders handed it. off and handed it off. And one of the.

coolest things I can think of in the. space, the lady who discovered the. opiate receptor in the brain, massive. transformative thing, her name was. Candace Pert and I'm I'm sad she passed. away right before I could interview her. And in her book, she writes about how. after maybe 20 years of her career of. just being hardcore Western scientist. atheist just you rejecting anything that. might be energetic, she started. realizing maybe I have to pay attention. to this cuz there's something else going. on. And she met this group of shamans.

And she tried to explain to them what. the opiate receptors were, and then the. guy says something and they all laugh, and then she asked the translator, and. the. the translator said, "Oh, they're. laughing because they said, 'Haha, she. thinks these molecules actually exist.'". I think they're both right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. It's crazy. Tell me about Talking about that, tell. me about the So, you did a $120,000. stem cell makeover. Oh, the stem cell. makeover. That was with uh Dr. Harry.

Adelson in Park City. Tell Break down what that is and why you. did it. Okay. So, that people can understand a. bit more about it. And I write about the. details of stem cells and what's. happening now and what you can get for. $5,000 versus in this case $120,000 is. at the very high end of what's possible. It's the most intensive stem cell. procedure that you can do right now. What I did is I laid down. They put you. under a sedation, but not full. anesthesia. And.

they pull bone marrow, and and people. go, "Oh, it's so painful." I had it done. when I was unsedated. It's not that big. of a deal. It just feels really odd. I. even Facebooked it. Uh I have a Facebook. Live video. Live this? Oh, that's crazy. I didn't I couldn't do the uh this. procedure cuz I was unconscious, but the. one before that that I did just to see. what the components would be. Uh and. I've done stem cells, you know, what a. variety of times, different technologies. that are that are out here. And they. pull the bone marrow, they pull your own. fat, um they can get the stem cells out.

of it, and then they go through and. depending on which part of the body, starting at the toes, every joint, they. inject stem cells into the joint so the. joints will stay young. I'm going to be. around for hundreds of years, so I would. like to be walking around under my own. power. I've had three knee surgeries. before I was 23, and so I want my knee. to be highly functional forever. I don't. want to be in a cane when I'm old. And. then uh Johns Hopkins neurosurgeon who's. been on my show, Marcela, she uh she. flies out for it and she threads a.

cannula inside the spine so they drip my. own stem cells inside my spine and they. are attracted to areas that are inflamed. and they turn off inflammation and turn. on growth. Wow. So, they inject every. vertebra. They do the face, hair, male reproductive organs and I have I. Facebook live that when they did another. time too. That was funny without showing. anything you can't unsee. And. you wake up 4 hours later and you're. sort of going what just happened but the. regrowth and the the rejuvenation.

happens 6, 9 months later as the tissues. themselves turn over and you get. younger. That's at the very cutting edge. but if you just have a lot of knee pain. or an injury that won't heal, I did all. that stuff 3 years ago with stem cells. I had this thing in my right shoulder, it's gone. All these things throughout my body that. you accumulate over time. You know, when. we're young we go I'll go mountain. biking. Sure, you know, I'll play soccer. and even though there's a piece of bone. fragment sticking out of my thigh. I. have just one more right here. Absolutely, yeah. And you pay for it. later and then you can reverse it and.

that's what I did. That's incredible. And what what level of when you when I'm. hearing that someone who's not had any. of those processes and speaking on. behalf of most of the audience I guess. who've not done that, what level of risk. are you comfortable with or have you. researched this to so much of a depth. that actually when you do this you're. like I'm not experimenting at all. because there's very little risk. Like. what level of risk do you feel. comfortable with? I I talk about return. on investment as the primary lens I'm. looking I I look for for anything I do. There's how much energy do I put into. doing something and then there's how.

much time and then there's how much. money do I put into it and then what's. the return I'm looking for. And dying is. the return I'm not looking for. Mhm. The. problem is that if you just do what. you're doing now, your risk is probably 80% that one of. the four killers from Super Human are. going to get you. It's cardiovascular. disease, cancer, Alzheimer's disease or type 2 diabetes. So, you pretty much have an 80% chance. of doing those. Yeah.

And that come those all come with 20. plus years of suffering before you die. Uh and you're not in charge of yourself. when you die. So, those are crappy odds. Absolutely. The worst odds ever. Mhm. So, how. willing are you to take a few risks to. avoid that? I'm willing to take a few. risks. But, they're not stupid risks. Okay? I'm in a room. I've got one of the. top trained neurosurgeons out there. doing a procedure. The risks are. exceptionally low when you have that. I'm not doing anesthesia. I'm doing.

sedation, so the risks are low. And the. returns are more energy now, more energy. for the decades, more time I'm going to. live, and as I age, I will age. differently than baseline human models. Mhm. And that is very precious. And if. there's a risk of one in. 50,000 of something really bad. happening, one in 50,000 Maybe it's one in 10,000. I don't know. But, I will tell you that. if you're popping Advil right now, you're facing those same kind of risks.

Like, we're all facing risks all the. time we don't know about cuz we never. hear it. Totally. In fact, I got to go back to. those that bowl of french fries. It. causes more inflammation in your body. than smoking a cigarette for a longer. period of time. But, you probably ought to not do either. one of those. But, most people listening. to this, yeah, I'm talking to you, the. french fries taste good. I'll eat them. Right? Have you done the risk analysis. on that behavior? No, because it's. normal. And can we talk about cancer and. alcohol? Let's do it. Yeah. Just go to PubMed, which is the database. of all these studies, and look at the.

relationship between drinking alcohol. and cancer. It is not good for you. And. you're saying, "Oh, I'm so worried that. I do the stem cell procedure that could. make me feel really good and fix that. that that joint or that hip or that back. pain that they might want to fuse my. spine for." I'm going to go spend $5,000. doing that. "Oh, I could never do that. It's risky. It's too expensive. You. spent five grand on wine this year. Coffee. Yeah. Well, I mean that's. coffee. Coffee's worth it. I mean, come. on, man. I know. I was I was I said that. as a joke. I totally. but. uh the that whole thing, okay? You spent.

that same amount of money on something. that we know contributes to cancer, right? I'm not picking on wine. specifically. It's alcohol as a. metabolizer that increases your risk. By. the way, I actually had sake last night. It's not like I never drink. I can tell. you I took supplements that turn off the. negative effects of it when I did that. But you you can still enjoy life, but. people are not very good at doing risk. math. Yeah. And when you look at those. two things, you spent the same amount of. money on. things that are vaguely pleasurable and. vaguely bad for you. Or you could have done something that. was a step up in your performance.

I know what I'm going to choose. I'm. going to skip the french fries. I'm. going to occasionally have really good. wine that's expensive instead of a lot. of cheap wine. And I'm going to do the. stem cells. Yeah. Yeah, no. And it And it comes back. down to what what we both know Thich. Nhat Hanh said about wanting familiar. pain versus unfamiliar pain. Yeah. And we'd rather have familiar pain. of everything that our ancestors have. had or family members who have had so we. have some familiarity with it whether. that's cancer or Alzheimer's so we feel, "Oh, yeah. It's kind of something we've. all had." We feel whereas the unfamiliar.

pain of I don't know what that looks. like is so much more scary. Mhm. Uh even. though like you said very clearly and. statistically that actually our odds are. not good anyway. And And that's that's. the That's the argument that that hits. me the most is that in so many areas of. my life I'm convinced that the way we've. always done it is is really the right. way. Well, it One of the things you learn if you if. you go to any ancient. practice lineage, look, we're all going. to die. And even when I talk to my.

immortalist friends, you know, those. super longevity I'm going to upload. myself to the internet. Newsflash, the universe will collapse in. on itself sometime. We're all going to. die. You You have to get used to that. Yeah. you know, lot of people "Oh, I. don't want to Sorry, that's just a fact. of life." The question is how much. suffering do you want to do before you. die? Mhm. That's really what we're doing. And for. me, I actually don't like suffering. It's amazing. But discomfort is. different than suffering. So, if anytime. you do something that makes your brain. or your body evolve, it will involve.

discomfort. But suffering comes when you. resist the discomfort. And. understanding, all right, I'm feeling a. lot of emotional discomfort right now, but it doesn't mean I'm suffering. It. doesn't mean I'm struggling. It It means. I'm accepting and all right, it's a. signal. So, I'm lifting this heavy. thing. I'm really sore the next day. That was the cost of growth. Or I'm. facing my fears and I'm doing it anyway. and I feel like I'm going to my. pants and I'm going to do it anyway and. I'm going to see what happens. That's. how our brain evolves. We're wired to do. to to focus on things that don't push.

us. Yes. Because that's biology. Yes. Well, if once you decide you're going to take. charge and you're going to push. yourself, you say, all right, maybe I. will live to 180. Yeah. Maybe I'll live. beyond 180. Or maybe I'll just, you. know, ask someone out who I'm really. afraid to ask out. Why the hell are you. afraid to ask someone out? The worst. they'll do is say no. It's the same as. saying, look, do you like pizza or. Chinese? Okay? If they say, I like. pizza, you're like, darn, I'd like. Chinese. We're not compatible. It's not. a judgment on you. But if you don't ask, you don't know. Yeah. But people they. they have all this crazy programming in.

their heads. I got rid of most of my. crazy programming just through these. these processes. And. I don't think I could have the the power. to do that if I hadn't have just got my. base biology working with food. And so, we get wrapped up in all these fears and. resistance things. But really, the. simplest lowest hanging fruit here is. just eat the stuff that makes your brain. work. And then you'll start being. comfortable pushing yourself. Otherwise, you're just too tired to push yourself. Absolutely. Let's talk about I I want to. talk about the seven pillars that make. us whole. But before we do that, let's.

talk about, because you mentioned it. now, some of the foods that are good for. our brain that are basic that anyone can. start doing today. And which ones to. remove, too, because we've already got. the. the fries out. Fries and alcohol are. out. Anything deep fried, and it doesn't. matter if it's Brussels sprouts. Sorry, especially at a restaurant. And I I've. got the Bulletproof Coffee Shop in LA, it's a restaurant. I know what happens. back of the house, and I we don't have. bad oils there, but the typical. restaurant uses the same oil for a long. period of time. Oxidized just plant oils.

are not good for us. Mhm. Our cell membranes, and I go. through really cool new new science in. Superhuman, 45% of the cell membranes in. your body are saturated fats. And the. brain militantly holds that constant, but the amount of unsaturated fats can. change dramatically between omega-3, which is more of a fish oil, and. omega-6, which is the plant-based ones. So, if you only eat plants, you don't. get omega-3s, the kind that come from. not plant-based omega-3s, those don't.

work, unfortunately. You end up changing. about 15 percent of your of your brain. cells into these highly inflammatory. things. So, you tune the very. composition of your being by choosing. the kind of fat you eat. You eat French. fries, your body will take damaged, unnatural fats that have never been a. part of your system, and it'll try to. build batteries out of those. And you'll. get batteries that make half charge. And. then you walk around going, "Hmm, I you. know, I I wonder what's going on. Is. just kind of how I feel. Yeah, I got a. little bit of a muffin top here." But.

what you really have is you have a. muffin top in your brain. So, the inflammation happens there. So, a big part of what I do is I'm eating at. least half my calories from fat, and. usually 70%, but I'm very careful. The. fats I eat are undamaged. I eat a. moderate amount of plant-based fats. I. don't eat omega-6 fats much at all. You're still going to get a lot of them. cuz they're out there. But I'm careful to get fish oil, which. is really, really good for you. You can. do it by eating fish. If you're going to. eat fish, you want to take something. that binds mercury in the fish. Um and I make supplements that that have.

specific kinds of oils that go into the. brain. But the real. really good fats that come from plants, macadamia nuts, avocados, and coconut. oil is one of those things where you. say, "All right, it's good for you." It. is to a certain extent. Every kind of fat, including coconut. oil, it's a whole bunch of different. types of fats mixed together, different. lengths of chains of fats. And people have heard MCT oils cuz I'm. the guy who put MCT oils on the map, right? It turns out that 52% of coconut.

oil is MCT oils. So then. uh an unscrupulous marketer will say, "Yeah, I'm selling MCT oils.". Bad news, about 40% of the fat and. that's 90% of the MCT oil in coconut. oil, it's legal to call it an MCT oil, but it doesn't have the special powers. for turning on your brain and. mitochondria. Mhm. So now you say, "Wait, this is labeled MCT oil and this. is labeled MCT oil, but they do very. different things." So yeah, you can use. some coconut oil as a fat source, as a.

fuel source, but you can't eat enough of. it. In fact, it would take 20 lb of. coconut oil to equal 1 lb of the stuff. that I make. Wow. And so it's Everclear versus weak beer. It's It's an analogy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. it's it's important to say eat some. coconut oil, but a huge amount of. saturated fat like from coconut oil, if. your gut bacteria is broken, will bring. toxins from your gut into your brain. into your body. So then, okay, what else do I eat? It.

turns out the template for this is. called the Bulletproof Diet. It is a. plate covered in vegetables. And it's. really important. It's not covered in. grains, it's not covered in legumes, it's not covered in potatoes, it's. covered in vegetables. Okay? Green. stuff. And it's probably not covered in. kale, either. Mhm. All right? Kale has a. whole bunch of antinutrients in it and I. write about thallium, a toxic metal that. accumulates better in kale than any. other plant we've ever found. So we're talking broccoli, cauliflower, uh celery, fennel, carrots, stuff like.

that. And then you cover it in fat. Guacamole, grass-fed butter, things like. that. Nuts, olives, olive oil. And I want to say cover it, you don't. have to go liberally. It's not a little. bit of sauce. No, you you want to soak. it in that fat. And then a moderate. amount of grass-fed or wild-caught. protein. Most people eat way too much. protein from animals. And I'm talking. two maybe 4 oz. And the anti-aging.

numbers, it turns out you want to eat. less meat than you think. you want to eat. But if you go to zero. meat, I know you're you're plant-based. But um what you end up finding is that. people today. and most people listening to your show, they don't really They say they care, but they don't really care about where. the animal they eat came from. So, we. are supporting the death of the planet. by eating industry-raised feedlot. animals. I do not eat those. I never eat. those. They will make you old, they'll. make you fat, and they'll make you sick.

They'll destroy your gut bacteria. And. along the way, they're destroying the. very soil of our planet. So, feedlot. meat is off the map. And then people. say, "But I can't afford it." Like. that's BS. If grass-fed meat is twice as expensive, eat half as much, which is going to make. you live longer anyway. So, your budget. will not change if you do this. But what. will happen is you go to restaurant and. say is it grass-fed? They say no, you. say I'm I'll order the vegetarian. Right? And then you can say, "Is it. grass-finished?" And if it's grass-fed.

and grass-finished, you've done the. planet a favor. The animal actually led. a life that it was supposed to live. Right? And you've contributed to soil, and you eat a moderate amount of that, and you feel really good. And one of the. nutrients that's been missing that was a. huge game-changer for me was collagen. And the reason collagen is cool right. now, Bulletproof put that on the map. And we're now the second largest. collagen in the market out there. The. reason collagen is so important is that. for me I had this arthritis in my knees. and I always had soreness. It went away.

when I started eating collagen. And on. that same trip to Tibet where I. discovered yak butter tea, I I. discovered it the Tibetans have had it. for thousands of years but I tried it. and discovered how I felt on it. Um I had wrecked my knees. I had. descended 7,500 ft. from the Annapurna base camp area in one. day and I my knees were bruised, the. cartilage was bruised. I already had. pre-existing injuries and screws in my. knees and stuff. I couldn't walk. I like. to go across the street to get a cup of. coffee.

it was like you know two two canes and I. felt like I was 100 years old. I had 7 days until I was going to be. able to recover enough to walk 26 miles. around Mount Kailash. And. I just asked a guy on the bus with me. I. said, "All right, can you read this. Chinese menu to me at this little. Tibetan roadhouse, the only restaurant. in town?" And I'm looking for collagen. cuz I knew from the anti-aging work I'd. been doing I needed some building blocks. just to fix my knees and you couldn't. buy collagen powder back then. And plus.

in Tibet they wouldn't have it. So I. ordered the only thing on the menu. that's going to work. It's a bowl of. pig's ears. Now I've never eaten that before and I. know what it looks like and it arrives. and it's chilled and it's literally a. big bowl of maybe 15. cold pig's ears and I'm just going this. is really unpleasant but I'm in pain so. I. can I do here? I said cuz I got the soup. and I dipped them in the soup to heat. them up and it was like argh argh. Man.

or. No, they were soft. They were like. steamed and just sitting there. But you. know what? The next day I could walk. It was that. big of a deal. I just my body was trying. to heal and I did not have the nutrients. I needed to heal. And now when I hear. people who add collagen to their diet. whether it's in their coffee or whether. it's on their things on their food it's. a kind of a flavorless powder when it's. done right, or it tastes like socks if. it's done wrong. Um what ends up. happening is the pain I've had for 10. years in my ankle, my knee, my back, it. just went away. And my my hair is. growing stupidly fast. I have to dye it.

more often and and things like that. I. hear that from women all the time. They. like it though cuz they want to thicker. hair. They got it, but now that they're. going to the the you know, the salon. more than they did. So, those are. important nutrients. And then you say, all right, there are people who are. saying I I want to be plant-based. And. you know, you're one of those. Now, why. why are you plant-based? Is this an. ethics thing or health thing? Both. All. right, got it. So, ethically, as a guy who runs a 32-acre organic farm. with turkeys and pigs and sheep, where is the fert- where's the fertility.

in the soil that makes your vegetables. supposed to come from if we don't have. animals? I mean, factory farms for. grains and corn and things like that, what they're doing is they're taking. these minerals from a mine. Uh it's this. actually isn't really even a mineral, nitrogen. It's it's a nutrient they're. putting in the soil. Well, if they had animals that would. come in during winter and just crap on. the soil the way they do on my farm, the. soil would replenish itself and it would. actually get thicker. Soil's the biggest. carbon sink we have right now. It's getting thinner and thinner and.

thinner because we're basically. overdriving the soil, but we're running. out of the things we used to overdrive. it. So, when you go to a permaculture. model, you don't eat very much meat, but. you might say take advantage of ghee or. butter. But we're talking about one or. two cows on many acres that walk around. and do their job. Mother nature designed. sheep and cows and ruminants to just. walk around, munch on stuff, and then. poop. And it's and they poop everywhere. It's kind of horrifying as a farmer. But I I have pictures showing this part.

of the the the the. I'll call it a lawn, but it's the. pasture, where they live, it's vibrant. and green without any water being added. And right next to it, the part where. that was fenced off, it's gray. It's. It's light brown. The only difference is. the poop. Mhm. Right. So, you think. about that, go, "Wow, what does this mean on a global scale?". It means that if we go all plant-based, the very ecosystem that has supported. farms forever has always been based on. animals pooping on the farm, Mhm. it it.

ends. Mhm. And then we won't have. nutrient-based. vegetables. And you can actually pull off a. vegetarian diet and be pretty darn. healthy. But the people are saying, you. know, "I'm never eating anything that. came near an animal." They haven't. thought through the system of it. And. uh you having gotten actually quite sick. on a raw vegan diet, even though I'm. pretty well educated on how to do that, there are some vegetables that don't. work for people. Right? Like. that don't work raw, too. Oh, yeah, exactly. And cooking is an okay. technology. Uh so, you know, the.

nightshade family, things like bell. peppers, for some people they work just. fine. And for other people, they will. wreck you. Absolutely. Right? And I'm one of those. I don't I. don't eat nightshades cuz I tested it. When I eat I feel like crap. Yeah, feel. like crap, too. Yeah. And so, I would say eat mostly. like a vegan, and the fat you put on. there doesn't have to be vegan fat. But. if it's industrially raised fat, shame. on you. Just Just put it out there. Uh that's. great. Let's Let's talk about I I think. that's brilliant. That's a It's What I. love about that.

is that I think, and this is this is. partly education, too. It's the way we make decisions are often. not stretched out enough. We're not. looking at the. societal, community, family. We We look. at things so small in one sense of just. like how it affects us and the four. people around us, as opposed to how. things are affecting. And I feel like. you're stretching our mind, which is. wonderful. The idea is we should eat to. feel really good all the time, and we. should eat to be here for hundreds of. years. Mhm. I mean, how do we do that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And the planet.

lasting, which was your point earlier of. like everything else that we're doing. with factory farms is killing the. planet, so there won't be any soil to. live, hence we won't last to years. Tell us about the seven uh pillars that. make us old, some of which you've kind. of told us. This is interesting. You go. back 20 years, I started running an. anti-aging nonprofit group. We we were. doing research, we had people coming in. giving lectures in Palo Alto, but we. didn't really know why we were aging. We. had different ideas, and they've now. been so baked in based on really good.

research using unimaginable DNA. visualization techniques, the ability to. to do things that are out of Star Trek. in terms of of seeing inside our body. And we now know there's seven things. that are making us old. And this is. really important because a lot of times. they say, "What's the one thing I could. do to live a long time?" It's the same. thing as "What's the one thing I could. do to make my car last a long time?". Totally. I'm pretty sure you got to. rotate the tires and change the oil. Just just saying. Might be a few other things, fuel. filters and all that. So, the seven.

pillars of aging are the things that we. now know are the causes of aging. And. then the question is, okay, how do you. avoid this? If aging is death by a. thousand cuts, how do I take less cuts? How do I make the cuts less deep? And. then how do I heal them like Wolverine. instead of just slapping a band-aid on? And if you do that, that's the road map. to living to 180 and feeling good along. the way. So, let's look at what the seven pillars. of aging are. Okay. And one of the first ones is telomeres. And people have a lot of times heard. about this. There's all kinds of tests.

you can order online that measure blood. telomeres, which don't really reflect. tissue levels that well. But what we do. know is every time a cell divides, it it. takes one off a little string of. counters, and eventually you reach. what's called the Hayflick limit. A cell. can't divide any more times because it's. little counter got. cut down. Well, all you got to do is. find the enzyme telomerase that lets you. lengthen that, and there you go. One of. the seven pillars is handled. And in the. book I write about a couple things. There's a very expensive supplement, there's some lifestyle things, and.

there's a Russian peptide, a small. string of amino acids you can just. inject twice a year that will probably. has a bigger effect than anything else. I like that one. It's cheaper and it's faster. Now, there's also something called. zombie cells. And this is just just. becoming early trend in anti-aging, although the researchers are looking at. these What? The technical term is. senescent cells. And these are cells. that don't die, but they stop working. So, they sort of sit there and they make. free radicals and they don't do.

anything. And as you age, you get more. and more of these over time. So, if you. can do something like oh, fasting. or these drugs, one called rapamycin. that's really coming out for from. research. And there's a few other. compounds being tested. There's another. compound from seaweed or strawberries. that I wrote about in the book that'll. tell your body to kill the zombie cells. Get rid of them. And guess what's going. to grow to replace them? Young cells. Who would have thought? There's. extracellular stiffening, which is. outside of the cells. I call them.

cellular straightjackets in the book. Okay, what's causing that? Well, we've. all heard of beta-amyloid plaque as the. cause of Alzheimer's. It's a symptom, not a cause. But throughout your body, when there's inflammation, let's go back. to eating industrial meat. Let's go back. to eating the wrong vegetables. Let's go. back to eating sugar and fried stuff. These things that cause systemic. inflammation cause almost cellular level. calluses or scarring. And as that builds. up over the course of decades, you end. up with cells that can't move the way. they're supposed to. So, you got to. remove the stiffening and there's a set. of techniques to do that in the book.

And then we look at what happens when. stuff builds up inside the cells. Imagine that inside every cell there's. an incinerator. And his job is to burn garbage. Well, what happens if you have an. incinerator and you aren't allowed to. pull any ashes out? So, you need to burn. super clean. And then one day you just. decide to stick a bunch of glass and. metal in there. It won't burn. So, the. incinerator shuts down. Well, this. happens inside the cells all all the. time. And so, what if you ate less of.

the things and did less of the things. that clogged up your incinerators, and. what if there was a way to get rid of. the cells with broken incinerators? There are ways to do that. There's also extracellular garbage. So, instead of inside the cell, there's junk. outside the cell that builds up over. time. And one of the things I I just did. is I just did a dialysis last week where. they pull my blood out, run it through a. special filter that gets rid of. extracellular garbage, and then put my. blood back in after it's clean. This is.

different than kidney dialysis. It's. similar technology, but the filtration. is entirely different. It's an. anti-aging technique that's just coming. online. I did that up with Dr. Matt. Cook, who's been on my show a few times. And so, I'm getting rid of this junk. That's a pretty extreme procedure. There's other things you can do, like. change how what you eat is cooked. If. you're eating burned industrially raised. meat, like you're so doing it wrong. Even burned veggies. Thank you. Yeah, that these blackened brussels sprouts. Stop already. You want to cook stuff.

with water. You want to steam it. You. grill it gently if you're going to grill. it, and you'll find a difference in how. you age, your cancer risk, how you feel, even how you look the next day. And so, cooking matters, as well as the quality. of what you throw on the grill, and the. composition really matters. And. the science though is that it's causing. this thing to happen. There's nuclear. DNA mutations. Okay. And the big one, the one that's funny. cuz I wrote a whole book my my New York. Times best-seller sandwiched between. Homo Deus and Sapiens, that book,

is on mitochondria. That was the one I. was missing. So, mitochondrial DNA. mutation. The power plants in your. cells, these things that sense the. environment around you, make energy, make hormones, change how your your very. how your brain thinks. Mhm. Uh these. things mutate over time. And after I. wrote Superhuman, a new study came out. that said, "Oh, when mitochondrial. function declines, that they are the. things that power the repair of your. nuclear DNA. So, you have cells that are. the building the building. map, the road map, the plans for all of.

the hardware in your body. That's your. nuclear DNA. And then you have the power. plants and the wiring for it all. That's. your mitochondrial DNA. And these things. need to come together. It turns out when. your mitochondrial DNA gets mutated over. time, it mutates easily, it's no longer. able to read and build cells properly. based on this blueprint. And it's no. longer able to repair the blueprint. So, this is a major cause of aging. And the. book before Superhuman, called Headstrong, I wrote about how 48%.

of people under age 40 have early onset. energy decline, this mitochondrial. decline, quantifiably measured. And. everyone over age 40 doesn't make energy. as well as a young person unless they. hack it. And so, one of the big things. that you do in Superhuman when you're. following the plan there, is you say, "How do I make energy like a. young person?" And when you do that, you. get the response time in your brain of a. young person, and you get better skin, and your cardiac function improves, and. you don't get Alzheimer's disease, and. you don't get diabetes, and you don't.

get cancer. And all those risks are. actually associated with mitochondria. But, it's only one of the seven pillars. So, you could say, "I have the best. mitochondrial function ever, and my. cells are in straightjackets, and I have. lots of senescent cells." You're still. not going to like what happens. That's. why you manage your risk on all these. And everything in this book, all seven. of those things, there's Here's what you do that's free. Here's what you do that's 50 bucks, the. supplement level thing. Here's what the. crazy billionaires are doing. And I went. out of my way to do all the crazy stuff, even if I didn't really need it.

as much as I could, so that I could. write about it and and talk to the. experts while they were probably, you. know, injecting me with whatever, and. get the knowledge, but also share the. experience of it. And what makes me. really happy is right now, people are. fortunate enough to go see Dr. Harry and. do the the $120,000. whole body six hands stem cell makeover. He's got one that doesn't do the brain. stuff that's more affordable. And you. know, I can tell you if you wait five or. 10 years, I'm pretty sure that the costs. are going to come down. But right now, before the cost to come down, it takes.

the very cutting edge people. And people. get really pissed like this is just for. old rich people. Look, here's the deal. Cell phones, when they first came out 30 years ago. when you were 2 years old, okay, you. probably don't remember this cuz you. were two, but you'd see the Mercedes. 300, the entire trunk was the cell phone. transmitter. And he's got this big old. brick on his head and he's driving down. the freeway in LA talking on the phone. And all the other people in cars are. like, "Who does that think he. is? Oh my god, these stupid rich people. and their cell phones." Okay, these are. the same people, you know, playing.

Tetris on their phone or whatever. But. what happened is demand. comes first. Everything is stupidly. expensive because it's the cutting edge. of innovation, the fastest computers. Like when I was 8 years old, I had a. computer that cost $5,000. It was a. hand-me-down from my dad because he. worked in the industry. It was before. Windows was invented, before DOS was. invented. And no one had that when they. were eight, but I just was like I didn't. even know what I had. This weird little. green blinky thing. Right? But now, we all have that. And these anti-aging.

technologies over the course of the next. 10 years, 20 years, will come down in cost dramatically. because they're being funded by people. who are willing to basically spend. everything they have to get another. couple years of quality life. And all of. us at a certain point in our life, no. matter how much or how little we have, if you're facing death, you're going to. say, "You know what? I'm willing to make. that bargain." And what I want is I want. for everyone listening to the show to. benefit from when a few wealthy people. do that right now. And and it is good.

for the world, it's good for everyone, and the costs will drop just like. computer processors drop. Right? Well, I. am happy to and I appreciate the fact. that you do go into lifestyle changes. here too. It's free. it's Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. And. I think that's really really important. Yeah. Because I I think it is so. important. Like what you're saying, it's. when it's wisdom and science, it's. lifestyle and it's these stem cell. changes, right? It's both levels because. it's all levels of change. Because if. we're not changing our mindset, we're. not going to change our behavior. And if. we're not changing our biological.

behavior, we can't change our. psychological effects. So, I like to. hope that someday we're going to have. such good and affordable technology that. all of us can be You know, I went on the. cheesecake diet for a year and you know, I I went on and I went on on a huge. series of inappropriate dates and I. picked up all these weird diseases and. I've got this huge tumor. I'm just going. to go on into the doctor and for five. bucks I'm going to hit reset and I'm. going to come out as a 17-year-old. again. Okay, maybe this will happen. I. kind of don't think so, but I would like. to think that our technologies are good. enough that you could be that stupid. I. also would like. it makes us a bit too reckless?

There is data that shows that we adjust. our risk. So, when seat belts came out, people started driving faster. Yes, exactly. That's what I mean. Yeah. You. know what? It's okay that there's risk. in life. Who wants to live in a. risk-free world? Risk not reckless. Yeah. So, what I think will happen. though is when you realize, you know. what? If I make a mistake like that, I. can recover from it, I'm more likely to. do something. But, how good of a world. is that? You mean I could possibly do. something that's more fun, more. exciting, more risky, or more more. worthy? Right? And if I come near dying, I know.

I'm going to be okay. That's profound versus right now, I'm. too afraid cuz I might die. I want to. create that world without fear, but a. world that still has risk. Yeah. And. that's necessary. Yeah, and I I vibe. with that. The the part where I always. And and I guess this is always a small. percentage of peop- percentage of. people, but it's. it's the part that it's like, yeah, how. much can you risk without hurting anyone. else? Yeah. I think that's where pain to. me is interesting because it's like I'm. I'm like that. I'm like, yeah, I want to.

you know, live to extremes and limits. and test the barriers, but never at the. cost of hurting other people. And I. wonder whether you could when you can. reset. there's there's that risk of like oh. well they can reset too, you know? And. and we all know that people just as. people age differently they also age. emotionally differently, they also deal. with trauma differently, they also deal. with tragedy differently, so. It's. funny, people over 50 surprisingly. show more happiness. I've studied. happiness and given big lectures on it. and wrote about it in Game Changers.

They actually show they've actually had. enough time to deal with their. Yeah. Right? And this is the horrible. tragedy of of being human. If you have. children. before you're 25, especially as a woman, your lifelong risk of every kind of. cancer goes down, your health will. improve, your odds of living longer go. up. It's actually really good for you. The problem is that for 25-year-olds to. have kids, you haven't had enough time. to build up a financial base and you. also haven't had enough time to deal. with your emotional So now you're. going to have kids and you probably. won't be a great parent cuz you haven't.

had a chance to do your own work, right? You're still like finishing separating. from all the programming from your. parents and all. So you're saying right, I'm going to wait till I'm in my 30s and. I'll have a financial base, but now. having kids is harder on my body, right? It's harder on the family. So it's like. you're damned if you do, damned if you. don't. And it's one of the reasons that. the the birth rate is going down. People. are saying I'm going to choose just not. to do it. I'm going to choose to wait a. long time. And sometimes they wait too long, but. part of it is what you just talked about. there. Absolutely. Is there anything I. haven't asked you today that you're like. David you're like Jay I really want your.

audience to know this so I really wanted. to talk about this, whether it's. you know, yeah it could be anything. I. mean there's so many other places we. could go with this, but I just want to. give you the Yeah, one one of the things. we haven't talked about a lot is. cognitive enhancement. Okay. This is something I've done for 20. plus years, nootropics. The reason. modafinil is kind of cool, you look back. 10 years, I went on Nightline. I was the. only guy who would do it without a bag. on my head. I was yeah, I went to. Wharton and I was on modafinil the whole. time. It's the only way I could even get. my MBA and still work full-time and all. that. And it's one of many things like that. I.

just want to say it is. well within our current technology to. increase your IQ and increase your. mental performance across all kinds of. of. measures. There's natural plant-based. compounds and animal-based compounds you. can use that will help you. And I write. about the stuff on my blog on. daveasprey.com. There's pharmaceuticals. that are proven to work and every month. or so you'll see some big articles. saying "Experts say these can't work.". Experts who didn't read the goddamn. research cuz I put it in my book and.

there's five studies that show that you. can type 15% faster on this stuff. Like. if it doesn't work, how can this be. possible, right? So we know that these. things work and I don't know what's. motivating the people who will look you. in the face and lie to you and say that. they don't work because they do in some. circumstances and they might work for. you, but they might not. And you owe it. to yourself to find out if you want to. do that. And then there's technologies. Breathing and meditation being the two. cheapest and most accessible. And then. there's the neurofeedback stuff that I'm. doing at 40 Years of Zen. And we didn't. talk about my funky glasses. Yeah.

Company's called TrueDark. It's a. company I founded and I will tell you, I. have doubled my deep sleep by using the. glasses I made for sleep. I couldn't buy. them anywhere. that works. You have 5% of the cells in your eyes. receive a light signal that you never. see. It goes around your visual cortex. into the timing system in your brain. And you can look at your body like a. computer. There's quadrillion little. tiny computer nodes, they're called. mitochondria, and they need to work on. the same clock because if the ones in. your liver think it's daytime and the.

ones in your brain think it's nighttime, they don't match up. So this light comes. in and it tells your brain what to do. and it spreads the signal throughout the. body. Well, the glasses that I make for sleep. with TrueDark, it's a patented set of. frequencies. These are all of them. It's. not just blue blocking, that's not. enough. It blue blocking is too much. during the day and not enough at night. These are the ones that keep you awake. So you wear these glasses, I can fly to. New York, I got no no jet lag at all. It. eliminated jet lag from my life. And I. get more sleep now in 6 hours, more.

quality sleep, than the average. 20-year-old gets in 8 hours of sleep. And I published the actual numbers in. here in Superhuman how to do it. So, who. would have thought the color of light is. a variable that matters? Only by. measuring, seeing what works, and. understanding the fundamental wiring of. our body can you create something like. that. Uh, so for me, I'm wearing these. glasses now. These are called the TrueDark Daywalker. And what these are doing is they're. blocking some blue light, which means my. brain works better all day cuz a lot of.

the interior lighting we have today. creates brain stress. So, by the 5:00. you want sugar and you're tired. I don't. like that. I don't do that anymore. So, I'm willing to walk around looking like. a rockstar. And tell us I love And tell. us what sugar does cuz Oh, man. talked about fried and fried food, but. sugar and Sugar's bad news. You eat it. and it creates something called advanced. glycation end products. Guess what clogs. up those incinerators in the cells? It's. advanced glycation end products. So, you're basically browning the tissues in. your body. You're increasing your risk. of almost every disease, especially. cancer and especially cardiovascular.

And half of what's in sugar is fructose. and half is another kind of sugar, uh, sucrose. Um, actually glucose. Uh, sucrose is. glucose plus fructose. But anyway, fructose is what causes non-alcoholic. fatty liver disease. So, if we were to. look at everyone's liver in the room. right now, there's a pretty good chance. that there's some fatty liver going on. And if you're on an exclusively. plant-based diet that doesn't have any. saturated fat from animals, your risk. actually goes up a little bit. But we. So, you look at non-alcoholic fatty.

liver disease, it's caused by sugar. So, if you don't eat sugar, it doesn't work. And what's interesting, you see this. little uh little weird puck Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a continuous glucose monitor on. right now. I don't sleep all. that much. it. And we'll see if my shirt's loose. enough. Yeah, it is. So, Now you're just showing off your. muscles. Yeah, right. Yeah. So, this thing on its side Oh, it's. your face on it. Yeah, I did that. It. was a joke. Uh so, it doesn't have to. have my face on it. But, this this comes. on every 14 days. I I put it on the. other arm. And you can wave your phone.

or a little device over it and it'll. actually tell you what your blood sugar. is. Oh, I love that. And you created this? Uh no, no. This is something type 1. diabetics have used these for a while. But, now I want to know what sugar does. to me. So, I have this little device and. I can wave it over this and. see, it's at 5.2. That's uh. Canadian or European units. So, this is. it's around 100. Okay. And it's middle. of the day and the line's perfectly. flat. So, I can tell you I didn't eat. something that caused a blood sugar. spike. The odds are that if after your.

next meal, if you have one of these on, we we did it, you're going to see your. blood sugar go up to 140, 150 if it's a. typical vegan meal. Now, if you were to. say, "I'm not a typical vegan. I'm. eating a plate of green vegetables. I'm. not putting grains on it. I'm not. putting a lot of legumes, maybe a little. bit. And I'm putting a ton of olives and. avocados and and seeds and all that.". So, we Yeah, my wife is the ex-vegan on me. You'll. see if it works because if your blood. sugar spikes, bad news, man. It's not. working. So, I've been able to tune what. is fasting doing and all that. That's so.

cool. It's data-based and now I know what is. low blood sugar feel like. I don't get. it very often, but when I get it, I know. I know why. And I can also show you. if you get crappy sleep, you will have. no ability to control your blood sugar. If you have emotional stress in your. life, you eat the same food and your blood. sugar is all over. It's crazy. Yeah, so. that is the latest hack I'm working on. Absolutely. And I and I love what you. just said there because we know that. when we're stressed, we turn to sugars, we turn to carbs, we. turn to fats. Like, that's what we do. What do you do when you're stressed?

When I'm stressed, uh mostly I meditate. on the blood of my enemies. Sorry. What do you What do you actually do? Um. I I'll usually It depends like the type. of stress. It's usually breathing or. meditation. Okay, so So what you do. There's no. idea. There's some inner-energetic stuff. that I I've picked it up done all sorts. of interesting training in other. countries. There's usually some things I can do. there and if there's this amazing thing. you can do it's called call a friend if.

that's not call a therapist. It's it's. pretty remarkable cuz then you can talk. to someone who really understands the. etiology of stress and you can be that. for your friends too. It's just hard to. see it. I'm not going to see the big. picture sometimes cuz I'm human. Unfortunately, you know, I'm kidding. But the the problem is is that if you. don't have someone like that in your. life or your friends are afraid to. really tell you actually you really are. an half the time but I'm still. friends with you. It's really hard to to. have someone tell you that. is hard. So a therapist's job is like. actually you need to own this 100%.

you're blaming the other person you're. just being a childish little jerk and. you need to like put your pants on the. right way this morning and then you're. going to have to do the introspection. So you got to have someone like that in. your life and so if I'm feeling super. stressed and I can't figure out why that. that really doesn't happen to me. anymore. Nice. But if I'm feeling super. stressed and I think I know why and I. can't figure it out with friends I'll. call a therapist or call a psychologist. and I don't have necessarily regular. sessions maybe once a month and I'll. just check in and then I'll say you know. I'm having this hard time with this. thing and it's really like it's causing.

stress which is very unusual. I don't. experience normal stress like normal. people because I hacked all my stress. responses and then we figure out all. right it's usually and this is a key. thing it's a false belief. So you were. acting rationally and your feelings make. sense if what you believe to be true is. true. It's just bad assumptions and. those false assumptions lead us to. terrorism. I used to think terrorists were crazy. No, if you believe what they believe. their behavior is rational. in line with their beliefs. The beliefs. are wrong and so that if your beliefs.

are wrong your emotions will be broken. and that's what a psychologist a really. good one or a therapist can help you see. is that you assumed something wrong. which is why you got in this in this. jam. So let's change your assumptions. and then you oh And then the pain or the. stress melts away because you changed. the world you live in. Absolutely. I. feel like I've been talking to the real. life Iron Man. Have you ever been told. that? Don't tell anyone. Have you ever been told that? Yeah, people have have said that. I. mean, I've got my little biohacks. somewhere in the Aura ring. Yeah, it's. awesome. I just I want to I want to feel.

good all the time. I know. I love Yeah. I was blessed with. feeling like I was old and literally I. had the diseases of aging before I was. 30. High risk of stroke and heart. attack, prediabetes, arthritis, all that. crap. I don't want to go back to that. Like, I know what it's like. Absolutely. I'm not going to get old the. way the way people expect cuz it's just. sucks too much. Absolutely. So, Dave, we. end every interview with the final five, which is a rapid fire question round. One word or one sentence answers max. You ready? Okay, awesome. So, question. number one. What's a lesson you find. hard to teach others?

How to stop being vegan. It's not hard. Sorry. I just had to say it. Yeah. Tell tell us something that genuinely is. hard. Well, maybe this is hard for That. actually is a really hard lesson. A lesson that it's hard to teach others. is that there are. layers of abilities and powers and. energies that they have that they've. never seen. It's just hard to believe. Absolutely. Okay, second question. What's one thing you were once certain.

of that you recently changed your mind. on? I was once certain that the less you. could sleep the better cuz sleep is such. a big of time. Oh, yeah. God, I used to. have that one, too. I I sleep my 8 and. 1/2 hours a night. Yeah, sleep quality, man. I've become a sleep advocate over. the past few years as I looked at the. data. I still sleep as little as I can, but my sleep is. really good. So, that that was a big. change. That's a great point. Yeah. Okay, question number three. What's something. about you that most people don't know. that would surprise them?

I was was I was once bitten by a vampire. bat. Where? In In Colorado. Don't even live there, but I woke up. when I was a kid with a vampire bat. feeding on my neck. You being serious? I'm very totally serious. serious. I didn't believe you at first. Yeah. No, there It's a real species. They hypothesize they came in on. bananas. This was pre-internet, but we. actually caught the bat and took him to. the hospital. It was just like that big. Not very big. But, yeah, it was kind of. scary. Woke up in the middle of the.

night. It was It was feeding and I. didn't know what it was and. Oh my god. And I I grabbed it and I I. thought it was a mouse and it wasn't and. I'm like and it bit me and I threw it. down and it never hits the floor. It It. was really creepy. But, yeah, that. actually happens. Yeah, wow. I I mine I had a bad. experience, but it came and literally. like it was I was in India in Pune and. it came and literally landed on my face. I was 9 years old and I literally just. pushed it off. Like it didn't bite me or. anything, but it literally it flew and. landed on my face. It was It was my bad. night moment. They carry a lot of diseases, too. Not. just rabies, yeah. Interesting. Okay.

All right, question number four. What's. something you once valued that you no. longer pay attention to? When I was young, I really valued. actually two things. Um one was uh being. rich. And I made $6 million when I was. 26. and I lost it when I was 28. And I can. tell you when I was 26, I said, "I'll be. happy when I have $10 million instead of. $6 million, which is a super dick thing. to say." Uh so, that that fascination. with when I have more money, I'll be. happy, I I have lost that. And you can.

say, "That's cuz you have enough.". That's true. You need about 74,000 a. year. But, say that that obsession with. it, no, it above a certain level, it's. just about what would you do with the. money to make the world a better place. cuz you can't spend it. It would be. stupid. Um so, that's one. Um the other one is It has to do with. like wanting to be famous and. recognized. Uh when I was 23, I was in in in. Entrepreneur magazine because I sold the. first thing that was ever sold over the. internet and it was a caffeine t-shirt.

It said, "Caffeine, my drug of choice. The first e-commerce before the word. e-commerce was out there. No one knew. what a big deal it was historically. Um for me it was just being scrappy and. trying to pay my college tuition. But. um. I was like, "Look at me. I'm in a. magazine. There's a big picture of me in. it my double XL t-shirt and you know, puffy red face.". And I just realized after 15 minutes of. that. it didn't do anything. Like like like. all of that yeah, I'm going to be. recognized. It There's no value in that. And and.

that I'm going to be enormously wealthy. There's some value in that, but not very. much. So for me it it's like the the. rich and famous thing. It It's about your mission and those. things whatever. Well, thank you for thinking it through. I love that answer. Okay, question. number. Sorry, that wasn't one sentence. I suck. It was a great answer. I was happy you. went off on it. This is the first time. we're ever asking this question as a. final five. So you get to answer this. I. I'm excited to ask you this question. If. you could create any law for the world. to follow, what would it be?

I like be kind would would be a really. good one, but the really amazing law. would be the law that limited the number. of words in the entire set of laws in. the country. Thank you so much for watching that. video. If you enjoyed it, here's another. one I think you'll love. These foods are. designed to be addictive. You know, there was an old there's statement. that's any white substance is addictive. White flour is addictive, white sugar is. addictive.