This Man Discovered How To REVERSE AGING & Make Himself 31 Years Younger (Data-Proven) @Bryan Johnson

Are you scared of dying? No. Yet, that. doesn't stop us from speaking with. unbridled confidence on what will be. And to me, it really shows that we. humans, we don't want to die. He has. spent millions of his own dollars to. never die. Maybe even cracked the code. that limits the human lifespan. The king of longevity, Bryan Johnson. What drives someone to spend $2 million. to not die? Let's just say we Fast forward a few.

hundred years. That's when humans. figured out they were transitioning from. die to don't die. One night of bad sleep. reduces your NK cells by 70%. Your NK. cells are what's killing cancer cells. I'd never heard that before. My. grandfather was full of lead. My parents. are full of asbestos, and now I'm full. of microplastic. We think they're. causing very serious health problems, and maybe worse than we think. I had. this general idea that there must be. some system in place in America that's. watching out for us. Not true.

What age are you predicting to live to? The number one health and wellness. podcast. Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The. one, the only, Jay Shetty. What drives someone to spend $2 million. to not die? I think it's very confusing. to a lot of people. I think when you. read the headlines and you view I'm just. unintelligible by most people. And I think if you look back, you know, let's just say we fast forward a few.

hundred years, and you live in the 25th. century, and you're reading the history. books of this time and place, I think. it'd be pretty obvious to them. They. would say like, oh, of course, that's. when humans figured out they were. transitioning from die to don't die. Like, that's the big thing. Like, they. had the technological and medical. progress to say they could now begin. extending their lifespans to some. unknown degree. So, I think it really. just we're on this inevitable trajectory. towards like radically extending how. long how well we can live, and I'm.

really the forerunner in trying to start. that process. And how did you compute. the amount of 2 million? How did it get. to that? Like what does that. involve and include to get to that. level? So the 2 million is primarily. spent on the research and the. measurement. And so the actual what I do. day-to-day is very low cost. I'd say the. majority people can afford it. Most. things are actually free. So a lot of. people see the the $2 headline and they. think, "Oh, this can't be achievable or. reachable for me." But actually is. And.

so what we did that was unique is when. you're trying to do something to improve. your health and wellness, it's important. you can verify it does or doesn't work. Like if you hear a story about, you. know, doing like drinking this kind of. drink is good for your health, it's a. story until you can measure it and say. it has this kind of change in the body. and either change increases your. biological age or lowers it or does like. something else. And so I became the most. measured person in history, and that's. really expensive. So the really the. expensive portions have been measuring. every organ in my body.

The actual protocols are really low. cost. Hm. What was the most expensive. thing to measure? Uh it really is in. chasing the cumulative measurement. across the entire body. For example, like I'm I'm the most I've spent more. time in an MRI than anyone in the world. Uh I think I this new technology called. DNA methylation. You're looking at these. patterns in the body. I'm the most. measured person with that DNA. methylation in the world. And so like uh. doing this consistently routinely, I we. do thousands of data points a week. And. so I think it's just all these things.

adding up. It's just expensive to do the. test, analyze the data, continually have. that process. We need a like a large. team to do it. Yeah, do any of the. measurement tools have adverse effects. on health? Yeah, MRI we think is very. safe. Yeah, but CT I've only done once. I just did a uh calcium score. And then. um we do blood draws. Like I've done a. ton of blood work. We did ultrasound on. my veins a while back and to see if we. hit scar tissue that had been building. up cuz I've done so much blood draw. We. couldn't find any scar tissue. So, we do. actually measure for negative.

repercussions of are we measuring too. much to the extent of damage? So, like. we're even measuring measuring the. measurement. So, in every way we can. possibly interrogate the body we're. trying to acquire data. And how did you. pick the areas to measure? Like how were. you able to say these are the five. eight, I don't know how many there are, metrics that I believe are the most. important to longevity. How do we even. know what are the things to focus on? We. looked at every organ. So, if you if you. we have roughly 70 plus organs depending. on how you count. And so, you can say.

like I'm chronologically 47 years old, but that's not really a useful number. It's like a general approximation. Then. if you measure the heart, you can say. okay, what is the biological age of the. heart? And you can then dissect that and. say what is the structural age of the. heart? And then what is the functional. age of the heart? Like you can look at. the functional age of like what is the. max heart rate? You know, you can take. 220 minus your age roughly for a rough. calculation. Then you look at the the. valves and you look at all the the cell. types. And so, you can break each organ. down into a different ways to understand. what is its biological age. So, for.

example, like my heart is 37. My left. ear is 64. My diaphragm is age 18. And. so, you can any. part of body, any organ or biological. process you can assign an age score uh. if you've got data to show data to make. that comparison. Your left ear is 64. Yeah. Walk me through that. Uh I shot a. lot of guns as a kid. And so, I would. you know aim the gun like this with this. left ear exposed sound. This this ear. was more protected. And then also loud. music.

And so, yeah. So, if this is the thing. is like now when I'm at social events I. have this app on my phone decibel. where like last night I was at a social. event and uh the room was 105 decibels. So, anything over 80 can cause hearing. damage. So, just in a social environment. with people talking at a in a voice. that's like loud enough for the other. person to hear, you've got sustained ear. ear hearing damage. Yeah, interesting. I. think it's something we don't realize. I. saw my. mom lose her hearing in one ear and the.

other one pretty weak. Yeah. And it's been really sad to watch. because it's completely changed her. personality. Exactly. And it's completely changed her ability. to connect in a conversation. She's. super fun, she's bubbly, conversational, but as soon as she started losing her. hearing and the hearing aid technology. is definitely not caught up with any of. the technology you're talking about. We. got her the best ones that that I. possibly could know about. And it's. still so hard for her to engage and it's. such a underrated part of human life. Like you don't think.

losing your hearing may be that. impactful. It's it's huge. Entirely true. And we've we've tried for. the past few years. So, we take all. these measurements and we say like, what. is the biological age of blank organ? And then we say, all right, now we. reviewed all the scientific literature. that's out there. How do you either slow. down that speed of aging or reverse. aging damage? So, for example, with my. left ear, we've said, can you take my. left ear from age 64 to age 63 and 62. and like all the way down to like age. 18? And so, in that case, we've had no. success with hearing. There are a few.

stem cell therapies that are in. research, but no effective treatment. So, we've had no success at all. So, once you lose it, right now, it's gone. Whereas other parts of my body, like my. speed of aging and my heart and my. lungs, we've had great success lowering. that biological age if you look at it. anatomically or functionally. And so, some things we've had great success, but. this is the point where. when people look at me and they say, you. know, the guy is so busy trying not to. die, he's forgetting how to live. And the flip side of that is when you.

you lose function, movement, eyesight, hearing, right? Your. life begins to deteriorate to degrees. like your mother saw in ways you can't. even imagine. And so, really it's like. this respect for our conscious existence. and our biological capabilities. And so, really I think that's what I'm trying to. do is I think the the new virtue is. caring for our conscious existence and. not being whimsical and throwing it away. with behaviors that just are not. necessary. Yeah, it's so funny, isn't. it? It It's really interesting how we.

judge intentionality. Yeah. And you only recognize how intentional. you wish you were when you lose. something. And it's like that the I. think there's that famous quote that. says. the best time to plant a tree was like. 100 years ago. But otherwise, it's today. Like the like. the idea of like you're just never going. to. you will always feel you wish you. started earlier. Yes. Always. Yes. But that only hits you when sadly. something really bad goes happen bad.

happens and then you're like, "Gosh, I. wish I thought about this when I was 25, 20, etc." And And yeah, so I mean, when. I when I'm thinking about what you're. saying, what is there an age or damage level. from which you there is no return? What. parts of the body is there a specific. age where you're like, "If you're this. chronological age and your. your biological age of this body part is. this, it's over?" I guess the This is I. think the coolest question uh right now. is that in previous time periods,

you were born and you died in. predictable fashion. There was nothing. you could do to stop the process. And. so, now what's different is that. we are making progress on age-related. decline even before a baby's conceived. So, now there's embryo selection, right? So, it's. don't die is happening before. conception. And then recent studies have. shown that you can take a a mouse in its. like last week of life and regenerate it.

and double the lifespan of that mouse. And so, we have technologies that can. extend life before conception, midlife, and even at the end of life. And so now. that what saying this is really it's. full spectrum, that there is no point of. no return at this at this moment. I. mean, in this moment, yes, but like. increasingly it's becoming this open. question, is there? And I think that's. the most interesting and exciting thing. Like my dad is 71. I think most of his friends are just. like, "We're getting close. It's almost. time." But man, he's got this. ferociousness to live life that I'm.

really inspired by. Yeah, that's. brilliant. What what age are you hoping. Well, I guess you don't have to hope, predicting to live to? I don't think. that any human can say anything. intelligent more than 1 year. from now. Like we we might we can say, you know, we think the Earth is going to continue. to orbit around the sun. with a certain degree of stability uh in. in terms of like how long are we going. to live, how will cultural norms persist, what. will be normal, what will not be normal. I think uh given how fast AI is.

developing, we cannot say anything. intelligent beyond here. Right. But but your physical self, you. still feel that? I Yeah. I mean, I think that like if you. look at some of the best AI companies uh. like Dario from uh Anthropic the other. day wrote this blog post where he's. imagining, and I agree with him, that. it's possible we make 100 years worth of. progress. in the next 5 years. Like that when we. when we bring up these new AI models, that we can do things that otherwise.

would take us 100 years to do. Now, that. does not mean that these therapies will. be available overnight. Like we still. have to go through the process, but I do. think that we are looking at this. possibility. So it's like when I say. things like we may be the first. generation to not die, people are like, "Stupid." Like, "No.". I get that. From like this vantage. point, we can't see how the pieces of. the puzzle come together. Like it's not. clear to us which things do what and. when. But that's not the point. It's really. you're trying to pattern match large. macro scale trends. And if you say, "How.

fast is intelligence moving and when you. acquire intelligence, what can that. intelligence do? On a macro scale, I. think it really is a robust hypothesis. that we may be the first generation to. not die. And and what kind of compromise. do you think that's going to take on a. personal level? Or sacrifice. And you may not use those. words, yeah. But if someone was looking. at it and was thinking about it from. that perspective. If we just put this in. context, like let's imagine you and I. travel back in time a million years ago. and we're with Homo erectus and we say. Homo erectus,

"Tell us about the future of intelligent. existence. Like what are we going to. evolve into?" Right? Now, Homo erectus. has models maybe of hunting, of like, you know, weather patterns or of like, danger. But Homo erectus is not going to. be able to tell you that in this new. science field called biology, we're. going to figure out that there's. molecules and we're going to or they're. not going to be able to tell you that in. this new world of, you know, quantum. mechanics or in this new world of. silicon transistors, they don't have any. models to articulate what things could. come about and why.

And so they just lack any models to. articulate any intelligent. And so I. wonder in this moment if we are just. like Homo erectus. Where if you say. like, "What will the future bring? What. will the norms be? What will our. proclivities be? What will we want?". We have no idea. We don't have any. models to help us understand. And so. that's why I think that if you want to. be a genius, lean into that you probably don't know. That everything we think we have known. is now going to be called into question.

Mhm. And that the the new genius is. leaning into the unknown. Yeah. How bad. was your health before all of this? Awful. Like, the worst. So, I started. entrepreneurship as, you know, 21 years. old, I started building companies and. the ethos is, you know, you would hear. stories of like, "So-and-so stayed up. two nights in a row coding all night. They're amazing. They're a genius. They're so, you know, great." And so. that story would be like a status. symbol. Like, they're important. They. have power, you should respect them. And. those stories propagate, then others are.

like, I want to have status, and I want. to be respected, and I want to do cool. stuff. And so, you repeat these patterns. of sleep deprivation, and you know, harming your health. Now, that's just. foolishness. Like, that we know from the. evidence that you stay up for over 24. hours, you're legally drunk. Like, you're just as intoxicated as you. consumed like your 0.08 alcohol level. And so, we've really bought into this. myth. I did myself. And so, I ran myself. ragged. Like, just awful. Terrible. sleep, terrible diet. I was depressed. for 10 years. So, I was kind of obsessed.

with killing myself for 10 years. And it. was the most awful decade of existence. So, I was That was my starting point. And so, now, I mean, I arguably have the. best biomarkers of anyone in the world. I've openly shared all my information. They're publicly posted. And arguably down the line, like, 5, 10, 15, 20 measurements. And so, it's been. actually really motivating that if you. can start where I was, and then turn this hard, others can do. the same. So, to me, it's been a really.

uh motivating. experience that you the body is highly. responsive to change. Was there a. diagnosis or a particular day or event. that happened that made you go, this is. my turning point? Like, I grew up on. biographies. I understand the world. through biographies, and I just love. reading about people in time and place. who are able to. like, snatch out of the ether the. future. Like, the future is always. present. It's just that it's very hard. to see. Mhm. And then over time, we look.

back like, oh, of course, that was the. future in that moment, and like, a. certain people saw it. And so, I became. obsessed with this question at 21. Like, what is the future of existence on a. time scale a few hundred years into the. future. And I basically grappled with. that problem for 20 plus years. Wow. And. I didn't know what to do, so I said, I'm. going to go be an entrepreneur. I'm. going to make a whole bunch of money. And with that money, then I'll try to do. something interesting. So, like, it's. it's kind of been this like 25-year-long. journey for me to like try to identify. something that would have the power of. changing the course of humanity. And. just in the past 12 months, I think it.

finally all came together. And so now, I. mean, I arguably have the best. biomarkers of anyone in the world. We know from the evidence that you stay. up for over 24 hours, you're legally. drunk. Like you're just as intoxicated. had you consumed like your 0.08 alcohol. level. In the average brain, there's 50%. more microplastics now than there was 10. years ago. So, it's it's increasing. really, really fast. How old were you. when you decided to make the shift to.

say I'm going to start turning back the. clock? So, I was 43. I'm now 47, so 4. years ago. years ago, right. And at which age do. you wish you started the habits they. have today? I I wish um. I would have been an embryo selected. based upon genetic markers. Walk me through that. Yeah. I mean, like. now, I mean, when you're going through a. fertility, you could create a bunch of. embryos and choose the best embryo. You. know, like you're along certain. dimensions. And um you know, I.

I'm like most humans on the planet where. I was just born through the typical. process of. uh but now you can really go in that uh. earlier stage. And so, I wish it would. happen before conception. And then I. wish growing up, you know, like my I. grew up in Utah, which it was very much. a culture of uh sugar cereal, you know, soda, uh excessive sun exposure without sun. protection, uh terrible sleep. Like I. just grew up in a culture that was. extremely destructive to health and. wellness. Mhm. And so, my entire life.

has actually been in this American. culture, and it's been really and I I. was consuming microplastics, you know, from like the earliest of days like all. of us have been. And so, I would say, yeah, I really wish it would have. started before birth. If not if not if. before then, very early in my childhood. I wish I wouldn't have been consuming. sugar and and things like that, which. really has those have long-term. complications that uh we just I don't. know I'm not sure we're fully aware of. them. Yeah, for those that don't know, walk us through the microplastics. because I feel like that's been a. trending term right now. People are. becoming more and more aware. Walk it.

through for someone who's unaware of. what's happening there. Yeah, I think I. mean like on a large scale like my my. grandfather was full of lead, my parents. are full of asbestos, and now I'm full. of microplastics, right? Like every. generation has kind of had their. environmental toxin that has been a very. a scourge in the world. Now. microplastics have been this recent. phenomena because plastic is a very. low-cost and high-quality material. And. so they're everywhere. And so a. microplastic is less than 5 mm in. length. And we get them in our bodies. either by inhaling them, by ingesting.

them, or through our skin. Like in the average male testicle, there's 8.2 mg of microplastics. Uh in our in the average brain, there's. 50% more microplastics now than there. was 10 years ago. So it's it's. increasing really really fast. And so uh. my company Blueprint, we just launched. the world's first at-home microplastics. test. Like we're realizing like this is. a major problem. And we the difficulty is we don't have. any data. Like no one knows what these.

levels are in their life. And they don't. without that data, how do you know what. things are working? Like if you stop. drinking water out of plastic bottles, what happens? You know like what happens. if you change the clothing you wear? What happens if you etc. etc. And so. yeah, I have my levels measured. My. whole team did it. Mine came back lower. than my anyone on my team. And we have. reasons why we think that's the case, but we're not quite sure. So we're. excited that we'll have the world's. largest data set of microplastics in the. next month. And then as a community, we. can start saying like now let's all. start running these tests, and let's.

build therapies. So we can start doing. things to minimize microplastics in the. body. And what are the adverse effects of. microplastics? I mean for example, women. that have higher levels of BPA. have or had fewer eggs retrieved. So, it affects, you know, very the. fundamental processes of the body. Uh. it's been tied to all kinds of things, neurodegeneration, all kind I mean, basically every health malady is. potentially related to microplastics. Now, like the science is still emergent.

and we're still figuring it out, but. it's like it's not a situation where. we're saying microplastics are a good. idea and you you should consume more. It's a situation where like we are. consuming an enormous amount of them. We. think they're causing very serious. health problems. It may be worse than we. think, so it's it's really a an area. that we need to understand better, but I. think minimization is probably the most. important step right now. So, what are. three simple steps that someone could. take right now to minimize their influx. of microplastics? Water is one of the. worst offenders. So, don't drink out of.

plastic water bottles. Number two is. have a water filter at home. So, I have. a reverse osmosis system at my house. It's very good. Mine. What's it called? Uh reverse osmosis. Is. there a brand? bunch of brands who make it. Who do you. recommend? Uh mine's custom-made, so I'm. on my website, I have my water filter. system listed out of every component. So, if you go to a. blueprint.bryanjohnson.com. and my protocol, I have it listed there. And if you're in the United States, the. guy who set it up for me, I have his. number and name. If you want to just. call him. There's other systems that are.

better or they're like comparable that. are like $300. So, it's a very common. technology. It's easily accessible, uh. but have that in your home is a water. filter because microplastics are in. water. And so, that's why when people. they say like, um well, I get my food at. a farmer's market, therefore, right? But. they don't realize that the the water. that is, you know, coming there to. for the farm is like could be filled. with microplastics. So, there's just. there's no safe place anywhere for. microplastics. Um number two is, for.

example, canned soups. Uh in one study, they showed that a. person who consumed canned soup for 1. week increased their their levels by 20. folds just in 1 week. Wow. Gigantic, yeah. Also, be aware of. of clothing. So, try to use you like. hemp, uh cotton, silk, etc. Uh use a HEPA filter uh when you're. vacuuming cuz they can be airborne in. the house. Uh don't handle receipts. That that has a lot of plastic. microplastics. Um.

using cookware that have the stainless. steel or cast iron instead of nonstick. is really helpful. But there's Those are. the kind of the big ones to be aware of. That's great. If you go through your. your house environment just say like. where is plastic? You might find you. have a plastic cutting board. You might. find you have plastic kitchen utensils. You might have plastic plates. So, just. be plastic aware. And once you have that. mindset, you're going to realize that. plastic is like everywhere. So, just. slowly make progress and try and replace. that with stainless steel,

aluminum, things like that. What's. fascinating is you have no idea how it's. entering the system. Yes. Because it's not a physical, tangible. experience. You're not like feeling. something Exactly. merging into your. skin. Yeah. Walk us through the um what. I was thinking about as you were talking. is this idea of uh. what happens to water in a plastic. bottle versus a glass bottle? Yeah, I. mean you're getting leaching from the. plastic. And so, what you I think the. average uh plastic bottle has I think. 200,000.

microplastic particles, something like. that. So, it's a very large amount. And. so, generally speaking, so I've just. made this rule like today I uh I brought. my stainless steel. I just carry this. around with me everywhere I go as my. primary uh container for liquid. But uh. yeah, so just try to avoid plastic as a. water bottle generally. And the thing is. like most um on a more on a bigger. scale, the things which we can't see. are now humanity's biggest threats. Like. we are we we're evolved to say is there. a lion in the bush or not?

You know, we can we sense it? Can we. smell it? Can we see it? Whereas now the dangers of like CO2. build up in the atmosphere, we can't see. it, we can't smell it. Like we don't we. don't know it exists. So the only thing. we know how it exists is we see a. like a number on a screen that's like, "This is bad because of this number.". We're like, "What does that mean?" We. can't see it. There's no real threat. The same is true with microplastics. It's like this unknown threat. We can't. see it, we can't feel it. And so, that's. why like what I've been doing is I've. been trying to say like we The reason we. measure everything is to basically give.

your body superpowers of awareness. It's. like now we understand like what's. happening when you ingest fast food. We. understand what happens when you ingest. microplastics. What happens when you. ingest when you don't sleep well. Like. you see the whole system effect. And so. it's really cool in real time to see. like actually yes, like for example, one. night of bad sleep. can I think it's. 4 hours or less reduces your NK cells by. 70%. Your NK cells Again, NK cells are. what's killing cancer cells. So like.

your army of defense systems, like 70% of your army is wiped out after. one bad night of sleep. And so it just. has these really catastrophic effects. I'd never heard that before. Yeah. Yeah, or like there's this thing. called. S. 100B. And so you want these levels to be. like in between 20 and 100. Mine are. 63.8. When you don't sleep well, it's a toxin. that gets inside the brain cuz the blood. brain barrier breaks down. When you have a bad night sleep, it's.

the same level as a traumatic brain. injury. And so like the body is responding as. though you had a traumatic brain injury. from one bad night sleep. So these. things accumulate over time. And that's. why it's. sleep is so critical. It's why this. culture of entrepreneurship is like, "Oh, sleep when you're dead." is so. lethal to your wellness. I'm so glad. you're you're talking about it. And I. love the. you know, that idea that it's almost. like the worst prison that you can be in. is one where you don't know you've got. handcuffs on. Yeah, there you go. Like.

you you don't realize it and and I mean. social media is kind of like that. Like. you're in this prison of a world and you. don't even realize you're being trapped. And our health is the same way. I was My. friend's dad was in town from London. couple of weeks back and he has this app. on his phone that shows the air. pollution. Yeah, I don't know what it's called. Yeah, IQAir. Right, okay. And he had it. on his phone and he lives outside of the. city of London. So, he's not really in. the heart of London. And he said that. the pollution score where my friend grew. up, where my wife grew up, is around.

two. Like I think it's on a scale of. zero to a hundred. Yeah. Unless I'm wrong. And he did it. here in LA and it was 60. Yes. And I was like, I have no To me, when I. wake up, I feel like the air is like I. mean everyone knows LA's polluted, but I. don't feel that. Exactly. I don't know that. Whereas like if I go. to a certain country in the world which. is known for its. the horrific air pollution, I can. somewhat tell the difference. Yeah. Yeah. But it was like I could tell. no difference from this between where my. wife grew up in England, yet it's. extraordinary different. Yeah, that's.

right. Yeah, on the air pollution, I. agree with you. I mean I I live in LA as. well. So, I have a air measurement. device in every room of my house and. filters. And so, we measure the air. quality in every single room 24/7. So, you're right. Like LA air quality is. typically around the 60 mark, which is. like kind of bad. But in my house, it's. perfect. It's zero. And so, yeah, I'm. always aware of where the air quality is. outside and inside. So, yeah, I I wish. LA had better air quality. I love LA for. so many reasons. I really wish air. quality was better. But yeah, I agree.

with you. It is a uh a significant. health threat and it's not a good idea. to have a lot of exposure to that air. How do we go about purifying air inside. of our homes? Obviously, we can't. control the air in the city we live in. Yeah, there's there's quite a few. filters. I I'll get you the names of the. ones I use, but I just have one filter. per room and it does a great job taking. down multiple contaminants. So, if. you're just mindful, like for example, I. never leave my windows open. So, it's always a pretty tight air.

block. Um I do go outside, you know, when the. air quality is nice. I try to be. mindful. But, also like if we're going. to play uh like basketball game with. friends, I'll also do that. So, I kind. of have like some flexibility. But, yeah, you can actually maintain near. perfect air quality in the house. And. so, if you go to my house, like I'd love. to have you come see it. Uh like it's. basically we have perfect water, perfect. air. It's the optimal state for health. across all the spectrum. And when you. talk about water, too, have you changed. the water you're showering in, as well? Because I think that's sometime that's.

something me and my wife have been. talking about. We have a reverse osmosis. machine for water that we drink. Yes. But, recently we were talking to a skin. health expert, and he was talking about. the water we shower in having a. different effect. And I literally tested. washing my face with the water I drink, and washing my face with shower water, and he could immediately tell the. difference using the tools and devices. He was measuring just with how it. affected my skin. Yes. Yeah, that's very. true. So, we actually did the same. measurements where. I took water that was from our filter.

system and water tap water. I put it. into a humidifier. in my room. I turned it on, and then I. measured the air quality based upon. humidified tap water and filtered water. The tap water set off all the alarms. It. was like, "Danger zone. Something bad is. happening." So, we're doing the analysis. now, but I agree like they do cause a. lot of harm on skin inside of the body. So, yeah, and they're. they have to be proactively managed. Yeah, what I find fascinating about so. much of this stuff is and you said you. were going to India soon, and you'll see. it there. Like when I grew up, and when.

I used to visit India when I was young, and even when I lived there for some. time, we always used used stainless. steel to drink in. Like that was the. norm. And it's almost like now it's like all. these new, you know, now everyone's. using stainless steel in the western. world, but now if you go back to India, lots of plastic bottles everywhere. And. so, it's such a like weird thing as to. how we went away from tried and tested. wisdom that we already had. Like in my. home, every cup for drinking water. growing up would be stainless steel. because it was the Indian way to do it.

And I always didn't like it cuz I didn't. like the clanging. It felt weird cuz. when my when I went to friends' houses, they didn't have stainless steel cups. and things. It felt a bit awkward and. strange. Now, when I think about it, I'm. like, well, that was the right way to do. it. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and somehow. somehow we we went away from that. because I guess cost it was cheaper to. produce, cheaper to scale. I wonder how. much human health has been sacrificed. over saving and making money. That's. exactly I think you nailed it. It's like. the the biggest game in the world right. now is capitalism.

That's what drives the majority of of. what exists in the world today. Like religious adherence um. doesn't really affect. the effects of capitalism all that much, right? It's a very moderate effect. Capitalism is the absolute dominant. effect in the world. It It's more so. than democracy, more so than any. religion. It's the primary game we're. playing. So, I think yeah, and that. that's my primary objective in life is. I'm calling into question that the. capitalism no longer answers the. questions that are imminent for us as a.

species. It's funny though because a lot. of people will say that all of these new. health trends are just disguised. capitalism. But they're really simple. and accessible, like you're saying. Like. I loved how you started off by. explaining that the $2 million isn't on. the protocols, which we'll get to. But. the $2 million is actually on the. research and the measuring so that you. can prove that the protocols work. Exactly right. And so, it's actually. accessible to everyone, but often. people are like Like I remember when. when celery juice was the thing, which.

has helped me a lot in my life for sure, at least from a story anecdotal point of. view. Um but I remember everyone being. like, "Oh my god, they're just trying to. make money off of celery farms." And I. was like, I don't know. I don't think. everyone I don't think there's one. person that owns every celery farm. So, I don't think that's working. What's. your take on that if that's not making. any sense? Yeah, it does. Yeah, when I entered this. world 4 years ago, I thought there were. so many patterns that were similar to. religion. Where like you take the King. James version of the Bible and you can. support a hundred different. denominations, right? They all fight. like we're the true religion because of.

like this scripture that scripture. So, then you walk in the world you're like, how do I even know like what's going on? It's all in the same book. And so, health and wellness was very similar of. like take your guru, take your. charismatic personality and like do this. thing. And we wanted I wanted to say. like we're going to be strictly science. and strictly data. And we're going to. open source, publish everything I do. There's no gatekeeping involved here. And so, that's what we did I think to. carve out uniqueness is that we just. said like we don't care about story. We. just want to see the data. And so, I. think that's really been successful is. that we are impartial.

We don't care what the answer is. We. just want it to work. Yeah, and you're. doing it to yourself. Yeah. Yeah, so. that that's the greatest test. When you. have a bad night sleep, it's the same. level as a traumatic brain injury. And. so, like the body is responding as. though you had a traumatic brain injury. from one bad night sleep. No one has. mastered sleep in human history. Right? Like we have no quantified There's no. like a gold medalist of sleep. There's. no like world record of sleep. And I. thought I'm going to set a world record. of sleep. The biggest breakthrough in my. depression was when I learned I am not. my thoughts. Your sleep score has been.

100% for the last 8 months. What does that require? I mean, I wanted. to like Amelia Earhart flew a plane. across the Atlantic. You know, there. were people went to the top of Everest, went to the bottom of the ocean. Shackleton was trying to do a. pole-to-pole. I was like, what would a. modern-day explorer do? Like what is. like an epic thing? I thought no one has. shown No one has mastered sleep in human. history. Right? Like we have no. quantified There's no like a gold. medalist of sleep. There's no like world. record of sleep. And I thought I'm going. to set a world record of sleep. And so,

8 months of perfect sleep. And I wanted. to demonstrate you can achieve. high-quality sleep every single night if. you try it. And so I rebuilt my entire. life around it. So yeah, I mean I became. the world's best sleeper. And what does. that require to become the world world's. best sleeper? Uh I mean really five. simple things which everybody can do. It's so funny I tried hundreds things. and I just landed on five. So one is you. have to reframe your identity that you. are a professional sleeper. So just like. you take your professional job. seriously, you show up on time, right?

You learn, you grow, like you have a lot. of self-respect on what you do. The same. is true for sleep. Right now like we. sleep when it's convenient or when we're. done watching our show or when we're. finished like having friends over, but. sleep is actually a profession. Like you. need to become really good at it and. respect it. Number two is uh the last. time of the the time of your final meal. of the day is really important. So at. least two hours before you go to bed is. your final meal. Then start three hours before and then. four and five. Mine is currently nine. hours before. So I go to bed at roughly.

8:30. That's not true. I go to bed at. 8:30. On the dot. Uh so then I my last meal of. the day is around 11:30 a.m. And so I do. that and my resting heart rate at that. point is 44. And when my resting heart rate is 44, I'm guaranteed to have a perfect night's. sleep. If I eat two hours before bed, my. resting heart rate is going to be like. 56 cuz your body's still working hard to. digest and that will reduce my sleep. quality by 35-ish percent. Just like. clockwork, it's very predictable. So. last meal of the day and then what you. eat is really important. If you have. like a big pizza or pasta or breads or.

alcohol, you're going to disrupt your. sleep. So final meal, eat earlier and. lighter and the right kinds of foods. Uh. three is you want to be aware of light. So knock out blues, like no screen time. Uh there's an app called f.lux, f l u x, that knocks out blues on your screen. even before that last minute. Uh so an. hour before bed, uh no screen time. Take lights down in the house and then. also use red lights, amber lights. Uh four is consistency. So whatever your.

bedtime is, if it's 10:30, be in bed. plus or minus 30 minutes. every night. Now, if you want to get. more precise, like 5 minutes, that's. kind of hard for some people, but 30. minutes is a pretty good one. Your body. will give you a superpower of assistance. if you're consistent. Like when I was. going to bed on time, when I did my 8. months of perfect sleep, I was in bed. plus or minus 1 minute of my bedtime, and my body would when I 8:29 would. arrive, my body would just like knock. out. It was unreal how powerful my cycle. was. So, if you can harness that.

consistency, your body will be more. powerful than any sleep pill. any other intervention. It's really. good. And then the fifth, and this is. really important, is a wind-down. routine. So, 1 hour before bedtime, you. switch from work mode to sleep mode. And. so, it's really a mind game because when. you slip into your sleep mode, 1 second. later, your brain's going to say, "Oh, but what about this idea? Or what. about this concern? Or what about this. problem? Or what about this thing I. forgot to do?" And your body your head's. going to your mind's going to ping you.

with all these things. You have to say. like, "Thank you, ambitious Brian, for the new idea on what to do. We. really appreciate you. You're doing a. great job in life. Also, tomorrow we. have all day long to address this. Right. now, we're in sleep mode." So, I do this. self-talk like, you know, like, "Oh, you. had this conversation today when you. were with Jay, you said this thing, you. probably offended him, now he probably. doesn't want to hang out with you. anymore." You're like, you have to cycle. through all these all these anxious. thoughts. And so, you have to do this. self-talk and be like, "I hear you. It's.

okay. I've heard your concern." Because. what you're trying to do is when your. head hits the pillow, you want to be. somewhat reconciled with reality. Otherwise, you're going to all night. long just loop through those thoughts. all night long. Yeah. And you'll be in. light sleep, and you'll be sleeping in. the same thought space, and you're. missing your deep and your REM. So, Uh. so, then wind-down routine, you switch. to uh sleep mode, but then you also want. to do things like read a book, go for a. walk, do breathwork, meditate, you know, have a have a nice nice conversation. with a friend. Like don't fight with. your partner in that window. Like don't.

create an arousing situation. So, those. five things will give you the best sleep. of your life. Yeah, it's almost like we. wait for our head to hit the pillow. to reflect on the thoughts that we. didn't choose to reflect on before we. got into bed. Because we don't have that. reflection time before getting into bed. Because that's what I was going to say. I think for most people they can get. into bed, but then they sit there for an. hour That's right. worrying and stressing and they're. feeling anxious or nervous or. overwhelmed. But you're saying that's. going to happen. You're just going to do.

that before you actually get into bed. Exactly. Like you have to go through. this decompression time. You kind of. have to let yourself like air out all of. its grievances, all of its ideas, like. all of its reconciliation. And you have. to talk to your like talk through it. with yourself. Like, "Hey Brian." Like. and be soft. Like, "I hear you. Like and. it's okay. Like tomorrow we're all. right." But otherwise, yeah, you you're. right. Like you really people most. people think you lay down and that's the. time to do the reconciliation and it. just leads to disaster. But there's like.

there's five metrics to pay attention to. or I guess four. Your sleep is good if. when you if your head is on the pillow, you're asleep within a few minutes. If you're longer than that, then you. need some work. Uh two is you want to be. up less than 30 minutes per night total. So, if you're up for one bathroom break, you know, back to sleep quickly. Uh. three is like roughly two hours of REM, roughly two hours of deep. There's. variance there. People are different on. that one, but like those are roughly the. sleep stats. If you're in that category, you're like early 20s like in your sleep.

quality. As you age, it's harder to get. sleep. And that's especially true for. women. They have to spend much longer. time in bed than men do. So, it's really. important these habits you cement. Otherwise, like you're really fighting. against multiple fronts. Mhm. And do you think that for people who are. waking up often when they're asleep or. and they're awake for longer than just a. few moments, what should they be looking. at? Like what metrics should they be. pushing towards to be like that's what's. causing it. How do they deduce that? Sometimes it's the last mill of the day.

So if their body's still robustly. digesting, then you have you basically. you'll miss your deep sleep. When you go. to sleep, you fall into a deep sleep. window very quickly. And then if you. miss it, you can't get it. So last week. I was at a conference and everyone went. out for this big party and I wanted to. try to accommodate I wanted to be with. everyone. So I went to bed at 7:00 p.m. I woke up at 9:00 p.m. So I got my 2. hours of deep sleep. Then I went out. with everybody. We had a great time. I. came back home. I went to bed I think at. 1:00 or 2:00. And then I got my.

remaining 6 hours of REM. You know, I. actually I get 2 hours of REM but 6. hours of sleep. And I still had a great. night's sleep and I felt wonderful the. next day. But if you wait and go to bed. like at midnight for me, I would just. miss my deep sleep. It would be gone. Yeah. And so like I'm trying to like. functionally be adaptive to societal. norms while I'm still logging those. metrics. But yeah, you have to be. mindful of like if you build your life. around it, then you can make these adjustments. But. you really have to make a professional. effort to do this because it takes like.

structurally just get it right and then. you'll win. Yeah, I feel I feel a big. difference. So I'm I'm pretty. disciplined in my sleep times as well. Have been for a long time. I I maybe haven't measured it for as. long, but I'm thankful and grateful to. have great sleep. But the. I found that when I'm sleeping after. midnight, it doesn't matter how many. hours I sleep for. I never feel as good. in the morning. Exactly. It's it's so significant. Why. is that? What's happening when we're. sleeping consistently after. 11:00 p.m. or midnight? What's actually.

happening? I mean, your body has a a. production line. So like you have a. rhythm. and you can get your deep sleep So if. you go to bed at 10:30, your deep. sleep's going to happen between 10:30. and 12:30. You may have a bit more deep. sleep like at 2:00 or 3:00 in the. morning, but the majority is going to be. front-loaded. So, if you miss that front. window, you just miss it and you can't. pick it up. Why is that front window so. much more important than the later. window? Yeah, cuz you you have a few. sleep types. You've got REM, you have.

deep, you have light. And deep, so many. restorative processes are happening. In. REM, you've got a bunch of memory. reconciliation and whatnot. But deep, you just have this restorative building. process. So, you basically miss out on. all those restorative processes if you. miss it, which is why like the brain. hurts. when you don't get it. You can't do like. garbage collection, like you miss the. garbage truck. Mhm. What about Oh, yeah, that's a great way of looking at it. To. miss the garbage truck. That's I've. never heard that. I've heard the. dishwasher analogy before, but the.

garbage truck one's even better. actually. Yeah. The idea that if your. garbage didn't get picked up and it's. still outside your house or your. apartment or even in your home. You're stuck with it the next day. That's pretty terrible. And you're stuck. with it for another week. Yeah, exactly. No one's coming to collect it. No one's. coming to get it. No one's coming to. collect it. That's That's a great. analogy. Yeah, that That feels really, really true. And I feel like. what we don't realize because we often. say I know so many people who say, "But. I do my best creative work at night.". Yes, exactly. a lot of people who say, "Oh, yeah, but. I need to go to that party." Or whatever. it is, right? Or I feel left out or FOMO.

or whatever it is. Or Or people who just. go, "Yeah, I just can never get to. sleep, so what's the point?" Yeah. And what would you say to someone who. says any one of those three? So, I've. learned to be in doing this for 4 years, I've learned to be very humble. Mhm. I I. don't know how much we know and how much. we don't know. Like if it maybe for. example, like we actually know 2% of. what we will know in 10, 20, 30 years. And so, we're very humble. Like for. example, I am vegan, I'm caloric. restriction, and yet, you know, if you. hear those stats, and I also do low.

protein. And so, if you hear those stats, the the. cultural norm would be like, "Oh, he for. sure is broken, weak, not capable, not. athletic, not strong." But in every. category, like my cardiovascular. fitness, my actual physical strength, all my metrics are top 1%. And so, we've. defied the cultural norm of what is good. health. How you achieve good health. And. so, I know this is probably true for. others as well, is many of the things we. believe are probably not true. And so,

I'm soft. Also, I I've learned that people have a. justification for everything. There's. just no way around it. That's That's. humans. And so, I don't try to resist. it. Just say like, "Great, do your. thing. Just measure your data." Because. we know the stats. Like, for example, if. you're not sleeping well, your other. markers are going to be off. Like, your. you know, SP 100, like all these. different All these markers are going to. be off. I invite just look at the data. What are the data-driven.

insights of poor sleep? Like, what. really is going to happen to you? You. already told us what happens after one. night of sleep. What does it look like. when you have seven nights, seven months. of bad sleep? I mean, like if you. notice, like I did this My company, Kernel, we built this brain interfaces, wearable fMRI. And we were measuring the. effects on my brain. of willpower. With deep sleep and. without deep sleep. So, with deep sleep, my willpower was significantly high.

Without deep sleep, it significantly. dropped. And so, like if the next day. after deep sleep, you're trying to. decide, do you eat the brownie or not? Do you work out or not? Do you have a. drink or not? Like, right? The chances. of you caving in that moment are. significantly higher if you've not had. deep sleep. So, then it has this cascade. effect. So, if you don't sleep, then. you're also going to do this bad thing, which also leads to poor sleep, which. also leads to doing more bad things. So, it has this domino effect where it. really cements bad habits, and it. becomes harder for you to come out from.

underneath it of actually making. meaningful meaningful change. I can so. relate to that. I only. again, see myself craving sugars when. I've had bad sleep. Exactly. And when I. haven't and I've worked out and. everything, I feel great. And as soon as. I have a bad night's sleep, the next day. I know all I want is some sugar and it's. the only way to get through and you're. so right, it's just a repeating cycle. Exactly. It just devastates your. willpower. And like all these other. cascading things. And so that's why like. I think in even like 5 or 10 years, uh I. think that health is going it will.

become the zeitgeist. And I think we'll. look back and we'll be like. what? Like we used to just sleep to prep. ourselves and like we had no idea what. it was doing for these following. effects. Like I want to actually what. I'd like to do is tie sleep to IQ. Mhm. You don't mess with someone's IQ, right? Like if you can show that IQ drops post. a bad night's sleep, it basically. decimates these ideas of like genius. person does blank without sleep. So the. ultimate argument is data. So the study.

I want to do is take these patterns, measure IQ throughout the day and if you. can show that drop, like there's very. few things that will be more effective. than showing that you basically become. dumb when you don't sleep. Yeah. Yeah, I. think yeah, we're going to have to find. a way of convincing people that that. sleep's a good investment. And it and. it's hard, right? Because it almost. feels like I think we don't look at our. part that part of our health as. something we can be good at. Yes. And that's why your whole idea of. becoming a professional sleeper, like I. think we do think about oh, I want to be.

a professional runner, I could be a. professional bodybuilder. Like these are. parts of our health that becoming good. at seems aspirational. Exactly, right. But becoming a good sleeper or even. becoming a good meditator to some degree. aren't seen as professional. accomplishments or pursuits because they. don't have this competition and and not. no, should it be a a competition. I. don't think it needs to be. But this. idea of competing against yourself, which is what a sleep score is, seems. like the healthiest way to do it. Exactly. I did this as well with So when. this endeavor went viral, people were.

confused and they So I got a lot of. name-calling. So, people would be like, "You're an eccentric billionaire, rich. Patrick Bateman, Prometheus." You know, like all the possible things they could. call me. And so, they were just. confused. And so, I'd say like, "Okay, LeBron James spends $1.5 million a year. on his health, right?" And you see him. playing on the court, you're like, "Good. job, LeBron. Like, you're doing a good. job." But someone like myself, if you. work really hard at health and wellness, I'm weird and an outcast and should be. an eccentric. And so, I had to clarify.

for people that actually I'm a new. category, and I came up this idea that. I'm a professional rejuvenation athlete. It's a new sport, it's a new game, and. they created a leaderboard. So, uh. looked at uh speed of aging. So, there's. a clock inside of our body that tells. you how fast or how slow you're aging. And then I said, "All right, world, let's compete." Cuz right now you have. like all these health gurus who are. saying like, "Do this, do that." But how. do you know what thing works? And so, I. was like, "All right, just show us your. data." So, now we have a leaderboard, and so same thing, just like a. professional sleeper, there's now a. professional rejuvenation rejuvenation.

athlete, and we have a leaderboard. People compete, and so it's like it. helps humans understand like what the. game is and how to win and how to score. points. Yeah, and and I think we underestimate. how much we do function like athletes. Like athletes are playing three or four. big games a week if you're playing. basketball, if you're playing soccer, it's probably like two to three. American football, I I don't know, maybe. it's a game a week or a couple of games. a week. But it's like we don't realize. like that tough conversation at work, that presentation at work, that bid,

that sale, like whatever it is, like all. of that is taxing us in a different way. Like, we're not pushing our bodies that. far, but we are pushing our brains, we. are pushing our guts, we are pushing our. minds. And I wanted to talk to you a bit. about food because you you brought up a. few interesting things there about. eating that much earlier before bed. But. I wanted to start with the low protein. So, I'm vegan, too, so that's why I was. I was listening to you. So, I was like, "I'm vegan to. measure caloric intake, but hearing you. talk about being low protein, that's.

something I'm always told to do the. opposite for. So, walk me through that. Yeah, what's your protein intake? So, I've I've been told or I've been told to. try and do like my body weight, right? And so, that's impossible for me. My gut. does not enjoy that. And so, as I tried. to increase my protein intake, I found. that it was harder and heavier on my. gut. If I'm honest right now, I'm. probably doing like 80 g of protein a. day. Uh and that's good if I get there. Like. realistically, and my gut can handle.

that. Whereas, I saw my gut health. struggling as I tried to get to 120 g of. protein, 140. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in the. same range. So, I'm roughly 120. So, I. weigh 174. Yeah. And so, I say that's low protein. So, it sounds. like for where you're at, that's about. where you're at. But, most men I know. are typically in like the 200-250 range. They have an idea that just there's no. upper bound of too much protein, and so. they just pound it. And so, yeah, I.

guess my 120 is generally speaking on. the lower side of how most men think. about protein consumption. Right. Right. Right. Especially with, you know, an. hour every day working out. It's like a. really rigorous schedule. So, most. people would just assume you have to. have more protein. So, it's So, I'm I'm. I'm vegan. I work out an hour every day. But, yeah, just when I was being told to. eat like 160-170 g of protein, I couldn't go beyond 100. I was like, my. body just does not like it. And I'm. about to destroy my gut to try and get a.

protein goal, but then my gut health's. going to suffer. Yeah. Yeah, so we look. at it. So, we say like basically, you. can look up blood biomarkers and say, cuz once you get too much protein, it. has a negative effect on the body. You. can tease out those biomarkers, but then. we've used MRI to say, "What is my total. muscle mass? What is my fat, you know, liver fat?" Like throughout. So, for. example, on my latest MRI scan, I'm in. the top 1% for ideal muscle and fat. And. so, by every marker and then my. cardiovascular fitness, I'm top 1.5% of.

18-year-olds. So, like like that's the. endpoint. So, if you say, "What is the. protein intake?". It's not solely based upon a dietary. recommendation. It's like, "What is. happening in the body and what is my. muscle status? What is my cardiovascular. status? What is my energy?" So, like. those are the endpoints where again, you. move away from story and you move to. data and let data resolve the debate. What's What's your body fat percentage. right now? Around 10. Okay. Um and it. was that a goal you had? It was like an. approximate goal, but we were really. trying to say, "If you're taking every.

organ in the body, we're trying to make every organ in my. body age 18.". That's kind of a ridiculous idea in this. moment, but it may not be in 5 or 10 or. 15 years. We've been successful in. slowing down my speed of aging and then. reversing the biological age of some of. my organs, not all. Like for example, my. left ear is really this methodical. progress to say, "Can you measure age. and then move the organ back?" Mhm. And. from a diet perspective, what helps you. get to age 18? Yeah, we've tried to. construct a perfect diet. So, every.

single calorie I consume has a specific. objective. If it doesn't achieve a goal. like we basically tried to just stack. superfoods across the board. And uh so, there's nothing I eat which. is like cool or fun or culturally in. It. has to have rigorous scientific evidence. and we have to measure it in the body. that's actually working. And so, yeah, I. eat a lot of broccoli, cauliflower, lentils, hemp, uh pea protein, uh hemp protein, uh berries, nuts, seeds. Could you walk.

me through your exact meals? Like a. rough day cuz I'm going to try mirror. these meals. Yeah, so my my first meal of the day is. called super veggie and it's it's a. broccoli, cauliflower, black lentils, uh ginger, garlic. Yeah, that's the. first meal. And the second meal is. called Nutty Pudding, which is macadamia. nuts, walnuts, flax seed, pomegranate. juice, some berries, and pea and hemp. protein. And then the third meal of the. day varies every day, so it's like some. vegetables, some berry nut seed, but a.

total of 2,500 calories. And then I do 1. Tbsp of extra virgin olive oil with each. meal, so I do 3 Tbsp a day. Drizzled on. top? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, raw. So, I never. cook with it. And then um I do collagen. peptides. So, that's the only thing. that's non-vegan is the collagen. peptides. And there's 2,250 Oh, I also. do some cocoa, 100% pure cocoa, 6 g a. day. And then I take around 50 pills. So, there's there's no diet that no no. vegan diet, no carnivore diet can. satisfy the body's entire needs. So, you.

have to supplement if you want to be. ideal. And then if you want to be on the. frontier of like really slowing down. your aging and robustly uh addressing. the body's needs, you need to. supplement. There are some things just. cannot be acquired through through diet. And so, these are like um. this is just scientific fact. It's very. hard to have this conversation. Like the. moment you bring up diet, like people. just go crazy. Like war breaks out. between the vegans and the carnivores, between this and that. It's just so I. just I I don't talk about it much.

because people get so triggered by it. And so, I just try to like say like do. your thing, like whatever it is, do your. thing, just measure, and then follow. your markers. no processed foods, no packaged foods. Like you're not eating anything out of a. a package, it seems. Yeah. I mean, actually I ate uh so, all. Blueprint food. Uh so, basically when I. started doing this, we started measuring. everything I was consuming, all foods, all supplements. And as you might. expect, the supplement labels are not. accurate. Like companies are not. truthful, and the food is terrifyingly.

toxic. Like we know the food system's. dirty, but like I had this general idea. that there must be some system in place. in America that like watching out for. us, not true. So, unless the food is. killing you on the spot, there's like. this gray area of like kind of just do. whatever. And so, we are finding these. foods I was eating were very toxic. And. so, we basically spent the past year. sourcing food from all over the entire. world. The very best foods, lowest. levels of toxins. Uh and so, we've made. it out into a product. Uh people are. like, "I want to do this, but it's way.

too complicated." So, we just made it. easy for everybody. And but it's like I. think we've created the most. scientifically robust product out there, plus the cleanest. All third-party lab. results posted. So, wait. What can people buy? Yeah, so. this is my company Blueprint. Yeah. So, yeah. So, when when the. company went viral, the when this. endeavor went viral, people were like, "Love it. I want to do it, but it's way. too hard. Like, no way can I put this. all together." And so, I thought, "Okay, I'll do it." So, we put together the. whole thing in this low-cost, easy-to-consume package. Olive oil,

protein, eight pills a day, and then a. bunch of other stuff. But we're trying. to basically say like you can get every. calorie you need from us. Got it. So, we're trying to do most scientific. scientifically rigorous and cleanest, and then transparent. Like, here are the. lab results. So, I think we've built the. the best thing in the entire world. And. and you don't think that's different. from getting your calories from a whole. foods and real foods? Uh you can. Yeah, so I eat whole foods and that. Right. Right. Right. Right. So, this is a This. is more of like a a supplementary.

package. It's not a replacement meals. Yeah. I mean, so like protein the. protein is a replacement meal. Got it. Yeah, so like you need to get pea and. hemp protein somewhere. Yeah. And what. does your supplement intake look like? What are you said 50 pills? I do 50. Yeah, but the our Blueprint stack has. eight. So, it's like if you want the. best longevity stack in the world, we've. put it together. Eight pills. And what. do those eight include? About 62 or so. health actives. So, they're some of the.

best molecules known to anti-aging. science for the body. Amazing. I can't. wait to try it out. yeah, bro, I brought it here for you. today. Oh, very cool. Thank you so much. I. appreciate it. Yeah, I'm looking forward. to it. And wait, so wait, what time are. you eating then? Cuz if you're finishing. eating at 11:30 a.m., what time are your. meals? Uh 6:00 a.m. is my first meal, and then I finish by 11:00 11:00. So. you're eating everything within 5 and. 1/2 hours. What does that do to the. body? Uh so far, the data says it's. good. Like if you look at my speed of.

aging or like any other marker, is in my. gut is seems all fine. So I really this. protocol is built around sleep. uh more than anything else. Yeah. Do you have any cheat days or any. I don't, no. I don't Not a single one? No. Now, the idea of eating a piece of. pizza or a whole pizza or like a donut. or something just makes me sick because. I'm going to do it, there'll be like. 5 seconds of maybe enjoyment, and then. you've got like an entire day of misery.

You feel sick, you feel lethargic, your. sleep is going like I've just ruined my. sleep. I feel awful about myself. Like. the cost is so high, I just don't want. to do it. The other day, I ate a potato. chip, and my friend was like, "Just have. one.". And it it tasted like gasoline. Like uh. I'm so surprised like we're just so. normalized to this these processed. foods, we can no longer taste it. But it. was just wild to like go back in time. and experience it new. It is interesting. how quickly your taste buds rewire when.

you kind of disconnect from some of. these foods. I've definitely done like. long refined sugar-free fasts for, you. know, I don't know, the longest one I've. ever done, they're definitely a few. months. And. I feel like after that, as someone who. grew up addicted to chocolate, what you. were talking about when you grew up in a. family where sodas and drinks it was. like for me, I grew up in a family where. all we ate was chocolate all day. And so for me to go back to There are. days when I'm like, "That does not taste.

anywhere near as I thought it would good. as it was going to taste. Something that. I loved and adored before has kind of. lost it and you just notice how quickly. Do you have any data on how quick it. takes to rewire your taste buds? Because. I feel like that is such a. interesting feeling because now it's not. like you're even fighting it. Like you. said, when you taste it, you're like, "God, well, I didn't even want that.". That's a really fascinating place to be. at. So, have you seen any data on how. quick we can rewire our taste buds? Within days. Days? Yeah, it's it's very, very fast. Right.

That's the That's the thing about being. human is like. if you take any given circumstance and. you say like, um, "What do I abhor? What do I What am I. repulsed by? What kind of door do I find. unimaginable? What, you know, like take. any kind of vector.". And you imagine that that is an. impossible thing for you to be or do. Mhm. And then if you actually got in that. circumstance and you did it for a few. days, you may find yourself re-normalized to. the exact thing you just found. unimaginable. Like we humans can adapt.

to anything and almost instantaneously. It's just crazy. And so like. most of the time the realization is just. like we're trapped in this. idea. that we found how we somehow found truth. and that anything else is non-truth is. not truth. But like it's like we can. adapt to any reality. like that. It's like we've seen that. again and again. So, Do you Are you. someone who gets stressed if you walk. into the room and you sense. that the moisture's off or the air. quality's off or you ate something like.

I How do you react to that? I've had. enough cycle times now with measurement. where I can feel things intuitively. I can feel my HRV. I absolutely know my. heart rate at any given moment. Yeah, so. I definitely my sensory awareness has. dramatically increased. And then how do. you react to that because you can't. control the humidity in every room or. wherever you are, for example? Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah, so you're not you're. not you don't you're not like, "Oh my. god, like this is going to set me." Like.

you don't you don't have that reaction. Uh I'm playing the power laws. Yeah. So, that's why like last week when being. with friends, I wanted to try a new. thing, go to bed early, get your deep. sleep, stay up and have fun, then go. back to bed. Like it's okay. So, really. trying to be adaptive. So, I love that. Let's talk about that, because I think. that what's interesting is to live a. highly intentional life, but then to be adaptable and know where. the wiggle room is. Yeah. That seems. like a great way to live. And it also. seems like something that isn't usually.

possible. What we usually see is. and this isn't just to do with health, but with anything, we usually see people. who are control freaks. We're like, "Everything has to be super. controlled, and as soon as one control. is off, they freak out." And that's not. a great way to live, whether it's. business, health, marriage, whatever it. may be. Or you see the opposite, where. someone has no rules whatsoever. They. just do what they want, when they want, and life kind of goes on, and we all. know where that ends up. So, how have. you managed to create that mindset that. allows you to have space, have time, and.

then live a really regimented, disciplined life? Because I like that a. lot. Yeah. I mean, my my mentality is that. I'm really motivated by being respected. by those that exist in the 25th century. Like when they read about this time and. place, I I would like them to say that. um I saw something that was invisible. Uh that was incredibly hard to do, that. the the predictable pushback from the. status quo was, you know, pretty.

violent. And so, I'm really trying to. demonstrate the future of being human. I'm not trying to be normal. I'm not trying to uh bow to status quo. I'm not trying to fit in. I'm not trying. to soothe. I'm trying to say the speed. at which technology is traveling, we're basically probably evolving like, you know, 5 10 20 30 40 50 years. equivalent in months of time. Like, our. speed of evolution is increasing.

rapidly. And so, I'm trying to. anticipate where we want to be. uh and not be a a lagging indicator of. status quo. And so, in my mindset, I. really don't care what anyone right now. who lives has to say about this. Mhm. I don't. I just really am entirely in. that future headspace. And so, that. really I find to be liberating because. like so much of our society, you're. tethered to social expectation. and the punishment of what accompanies. violating that expectation.

And uh I just found it I had to come up. with a mental model to like try to fully. explore this without that tethering. Are. you Are you scared of dying? No. What What's your relationship like with. death? What are your thoughts about it? For me, it's kind of an interesting. conversation because we humans do not. know what happens after death. No one knows. Now, you can imagine what happens, you. can tell a story about what happens, you. can you can hypothesize what happens.

Like, all those things are true, but it's an unknowable thing. And. yet that doesn't stop us from speaking. with unbridled confidence. on what will be. And to me, it really shows that we. humans. we don't want to die. Like, desperately we do not want to die. And we want to try to address this. omnipresent concern of of what exists. after life, what is death. And so, I try. to be very sober-minded to say like, I.

don't know, and no human knows. Therefore, the thing I value most is that that. existence is the highest virtue. Whereas. before, be when death is always inevitable, you. just naturally. soothe yourself with these stories. And. what I'm saying now is like actually we. might be able to do something about this. that you we never could before. And. therefore, uh we can have a. re-imagination of what existence truly. is. Yeah. Yeah, the the Eastern. perspective has always fascinated me.

with how. our consciousness is eternal, and the. body is temporary, and therefore. that desire to live forever comes from. this very innate. truth that we are eternal. We're not. limited in the way the body is limited. to some degree, I guess. And uh. it's always been fascinating to me how. the desire to live is a very natural. one, actually. Yeah. And and it's. uniform. Yeah. But it's almost one that. we. are scared to ask. There's a lot of fear.

around even talking about death. It. feels morbid. It feels when it's the. most it's, you know, guaranteed and the. most common thing that will. It's the number one thing that will. happen to everyone who's born. It's like. if you tell. like let's just take an entrepreneur and. say like if you. like show up to do this thing. and you're just present and do like some. minimal amount of work, you're going to. become a billionaire. Mhm. Uh like that's the prize. But in reality, you have to be an entrepreneur that's. like to defy all odds mhm and work a.

crazy amount uh to achieve some level of. success. And I feel like the death narrative that. we have as a species is is kind of the. same of like. you get this afterlife with this minimal. set of effort. And so basically it sacks. people of inviting them to work hard for. existence because it's already. guaranteed. And so to me it has this. really negative consequence where it's. like, "Oh, taken care of. Therefore, you can have poor health habits. You can.

risk your life. You can do these. things." So, I think we're really on this bigger time. scale we're wrapped up in this moment. where our. we should be working a lot harder and I. care a lot more. about our existence, about the planet's. health, about our kids' health, about. societal's health. And we're lackadaisical because we have. some sort of idea that somehow in the. afterlife things are sorted. So, I think. it really weakens us as a species. From.

the point of view of data, what's. different about what men need to do for. longevity and what women need to do for. longevity? We have much more in common. than we do differences. So, a lot of. people immediately jump to they'll see. my protocol and they'll say, "Well, there's certainly there has to be. personalizations that, you know, are. done from you versus me or whatever.". And um I would draw their attention back. to say we have much more in common. than you think. Like, instead of saying. like, "What are the major. commonalities?" they immediately go to. differences. And so, what we have in. common is sleep works great for men and.

women. Right? And eating vegetables, right? Also great for men and women. And again, you can look at the data. Um exercise, great. And so, there's. nuances on the exercise of like around a. woman's cycle. So, yes, there's nuances, but generally speaking, the basics of. health of life health practices are good. for both males and females. And so, then. the nuances like you uh on my protocol I. have a protocol I've published publicly. There's nuances of a woman's cycle, uh. what to do around that for both food and. exercise. So, I So, yeah, those are.

details uh I've listed out, but. generally speaking. the benefits are in the power laws of. health and wellness of getting the the. basics right and less so the tail things. which people focus on. Yeah. And how. does someone lower their inflammation, which is known as like the silent. killer? So, I my body, for example, has. barely levels of any detectable. inflammation. Like, it's almost entirely. uh gone. I want that. That sounds. amazing. Yeah. Do you know your inflammation. level? I don't know my level recently. I've got. a blood test coming up again, so I need.

to check it out with Darshan, so. But um. yeah, it's always been one of those. things that's been hard for me to. manage. Yeah, okay, interesting. Yeah, see you're looking probably at your H S. C R P. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it has to. do with diet, a lot, sleep. Yeah, it's like again like. back to the basics of life and then. stress. Mhm. Yeah. So, it kind of always. comes back to the basics. Yeah. And and. what are people getting wrong in their. daily schedule with stress. that they could easily change to kind of.

lower that? Because like you we talked. about earlier, not everyone is in a. position to take care of their own. schedule, build their thing, they may be. working a job in a certain way. Like. what are some things people can do to. manage that throughout the day? Yeah, uh. first is sleep. So, like sleep is a. superpower to manage stress. I know that. when I'm well rested, if a stressful. event happens, it just kind of I can. brush it off. If I'm not well rested, it. feels very painful and I react very. strongly. So, sleep is probably the most.

powerful thing to manage stress. Two is. you know, if you if you're exercising. and feel well, it also lowers the stress. response. Uh then a balanced diet. Every. single Yeah. thing. Yeah, the same thing. Like you. get those power laws in place. Agreed. And a lot of people like when they can't. get those power laws in place, they want. to take a pill or like and so I realize. that's how a lot of people think. I do. want to urge people like get those. habits in place. They are the most. robust, highly performative things you. can do. What does your 1-hour workout. look like? Uh it's cardio, weights,

balance, and flexibility. Okay, uh very. balanced. Yeah. Yeah. What what I love. about everything you're saying is that. it's. it's things that it's almost like some. of it we know, some of it we're aware. of. The biggest challenge I guess when it. comes to all of this is discipline. Like discipline, if if there was one. word, what word would you choose? If. there was one thing that you said is at. the core of. everything you've talked about today. It's systems. Systems, yeah. Yeah. So, like if you design if you say.

like I go to bed at this time of day. every single day, you build your life. around it. If you say I work out in the. morning right I wake up every day and. never change it. So, the thing that most. people do is they leave the decision to. their willpower. They say, "Do I feel like it or not?". And then that moment it's like, "Nah, I'm going to skip today because like. I've been working really hard. I need to. rest anyway." Like you rationalize it in. whatever way. So, just build systems. I. basically when I started doing this like. when I came here today, I put your. address in to my navigation system and I.

was like, "Take me there.". I didn't like memorize the streets, right? And so I trusted the algorithm. that had more data than I had. And so I. proposed this 4 years ago when I. started. I said, "Can we build an. algorithm that takes better care of me. than I can myself?" Like just measure my. body, put it into a computational. system, and a pair of the science can. then tell me what to do. I wanted to do. like. uh navigation for my body. And that's what we've done. So, I. basically I do not make decisions with. my mind. Yes. The algorithm does all the. things for me. And so I just like I feel. like inevitable that we humans will not.

do this weird thing of make decisions on. a daily basis of what to eat, when to. exercise. It'll just be done by an. algorithm. And they'll be like, "This is. amazing because like it just does what's. right for me. I feel amazing. I was. scared of it before, and now it's the. best thing ever." It's like it's just. inevitable we're going to be in that. path. Now, a lot of people when they. hear that, they will think it's. dystopic, which like I get it from where. you're at. But like we have said yes to. algorithms everywhere, and it's entirely. reasonable that we say yes to our. health. Yeah, I think the systems part.

is so true. And a big part of systems is. focusing on how you feel after the. system is complete, not before. Yes. Like I have a I have the same system. I. know it what days I work out and what. what times I work out. And it's still. hard before one of those days to feel. like I really want to do it, but I know. for a fact I'm going to feel great. So, even when I'm in that moment to message. and be like, "Oh, I don't want to work. out today." I know I'm going to regret. that later. And I'm actually going to. appreciate later that I got that workout. in even when I felt tired, even when I.

felt sluggish. Yes. That's actually. going to be the best time. And so, I. love the answer of systems, but I think. it's kind of programming the mind to be. committed to the feeling after you. complete a system, never how you're. going to feel before. that's true. And like, I I learned this. when I was depressed. You know, my mind. was like, "Hey, you should commit. suicide. Like, life is awful. You're. never going to feel hope again. Die.". And like, it was just on repeat saying. that, and I learned like, it was the. biggest breakthrough in my depression. was when I learned, "I am not my. thoughts.". Such a simple concept, but like, you see.

it land, it's like, "Okay, this came. from somewhere, but it's not me.". And so, even now, like, uh do I want to. work out or not? I don't care what my brain says. It is. an unreliable source of information. Systems are a more reliable form of. information. So, like, set up your. system, and like you're saying, that you. know if you do the system, you're going. to be happy. I just never trust my mind to tell me. what I do what I do and don't want to. do. Yeah. And what's interesting about. that is a lot of people say, "Well, are. you just not ignoring your emotions and. how you feel?" What I find is the.

opposite, that the system makes you. better at dealing with any emotion that. then comes up. So, it's not that you don't have. emotions and you don't have feelings and. you don't experience stress or anxiety, but the system being in place actually. just gave you all of this willpower. going back to your point. And I think. that's where we go wrong cuz I think. we've kind of got to this place in. society where it's like, "Well, how you. feel is the reality, is the truth." And. it's like, "Whoa, if I just listen how I. feel all the time, I'll probably never. do anything that's good for me. I'll. probably eat lots of stuff that's bad.

for me, and I'll never choose the thing. that's right for me, and I'll keep doing. what's wrong for me because it's. easier." Exactly. And my mind is. constantly trying to get me to do what's. easier. Exactly. And what's easier is. rarely good for me. Entirely. Yeah. I find that to be the I. mean, that feels like it's it. Like, what's good for me is not easy, and. what's easy is not good for me. Yeah. And what's uncomfortable is probably the. right decision and what's comfortable is. probably the wrong decision. What did it. take you to program yourself to say yes.

to that algorithm? Like two things. Like. one when I built my previous company. Braintree Memo. we would build version one of our. software and then version two and. version three. We never showed up and the software was. like. guys now I don't feel like doing my work. today. I'm not going to perform. Like. the software just performed in its more. most robust most way possible. Very. reliable. Now there are bugs and we can. fix the bug but then whereas me as a. system of intelligence just like. software I would make all the same. errors every day. Go to bed late, eat.

the wrong foods, maybe have alcohol, like waste you know time on things I. don't want to do. Like I would just be. this walking disaster of errors. And I'd. do the same behaviors every single day. And I thought this is crazy. Like this. form of intelligence I can just program. to be like this great robust. intelligence whereas I can't do anything. reliable. And I thought I want to build. myself in a way where I can reliably be. robust as an intelligent system. So like this is kind of cool like we can. now can imagine this is human. So I. wanted to build systems. Like I know a. lot of people will be like that's so.

weird you're not a computer. But like so. I get it. But I guess like I would say. two things. One is that. when I talk about these things in these. terms people will say. but you're not happy. Like I find that I. find happiness in life in spontaneity. like staying up all night and like they. have all these elegant explanations. about you know why they love to do the. following things which is fine. So. there's like two ways to look at this. One is say like what does your health. look like? What does my health look. like? What does your happiness look like. and what does my happiness look like? And like quantitatively I think this.

system is superior. Now it doesn't mean you have to do a. specific thing. You can still have. flexibility and you can have. spontaneity. But generally speaking. people are very reluctant to release the. status quo of like they just like do. whatever they want whenever they want to. a more rigorous stance of like you can. be happier with these systems in place. But it's just like I've I've had this. conversation so many times. I know like. the deep deep resistance people have to. just shut this down. But I'm suggesting.

like this is really the reality of the. future of being human. Uh I'm prototyping it right now and it. actually is a superior system to. whatever we're doing as humans now. What's holding us back from thinking. health can lead to happiness? God, what. a good question. Honestly, that that is. like a bull's-eye. In capitalism. you're you're fighting for resource. accumulation and for wealth accumulation. and for status. And you're willing to sacrifice. everything to achieve that goal. Cuz.

health is not the goal. Like resource. accumulation is a goal. Power is the. goal. Like you I guess you can kind of map. everything back to status, power, sex. Yeah, it's I guess it's like the goals. that society has and the the imagination. is that if existence is the highest. virtue, like we want to hold on to this with. everything we have, those other. objectives become secondary. considerations. But but subject to our. own well-being. And we just haven't made that transition.

yet. Yeah. Uh but but yeah, what do you think? I. always try and think about it from from, you know, my knowledge base of of. Eastern literature and philosophy and. it's. there's there's four archetypes in. Eastern philosophy and they all have. different goals within a society. Yeah. And one archetype aims for knowledge, one aims for power and control and. influence. One aims for resources and wealth and. one aims for comfort and stability and.

security. Yeah. And I think that in times like. these you become pretty much only two of. them, which is you either aim for. security, stability and comfort or you. aim for resources, accumulation, power, and control. And the thirst and pursuit for growth. and evolution and improvement has become. kind of bottom of the pile. Mhm. It's the hardest. Mhm. And it's the most.

powerful. But it requires so much. And like you. said, because we've been wired to either. want to remain the same or want to. achieve in a very external way, growth becomes something unseen. Right? Like right now, as I see you, I can't. see that you're 18 years old. I can't. see that you're any of these things. And. so then I'm like, "Well, that's not. important then, because life's based on. what I see." Yeah. And that's obviously.

not a healthy way to live or the right. way to live. Or maybe it's for some. people, but it's it's definitely not an. accurate way to live. Yeah. Because what you see is not. necessarily what's true. And so I think. we've become a very visible, surface-level society. Mhm. And growth and focus and discipline. or systems are such unseen parts. It's. like it's almost like the idea that. everyone wants a successful business, but people may not want to do the work. to build a successful business.

That's right. And so the work is unseen. The foundations of the building are. unseen. The. bottom of the iceberg is unseen, and. we're still out figuring that out. Yeah. Yeah, I think yeah, to build on. your last point, I'd say like when when. death is inevitable, humans choose games within the selection. options. Mhm. So you can pursue those four. archetypes. Mhm. If death doesn't is not. inevitable, it changes the underlying. structure of society. Everything.

changes. That's my primary hypothesis is. that's what this moment is about. Like. that is the only thing happening right. now for humans is like we we knew we're. going to going to die before. and now there's this open question of. will we be the first generation to not. die? If that's true, everything we've imagined we care about. changes. Mhm. And I I'm really happy. that you're. putting yourself out there as someone. who's. not trying to appease or. not trying to keep the status quo. because I feel like when we see human.

brilliance. in sport, music, drama, film, TV, whatever it may be, the truth is we love it, but we can. never be it or do it. because there is a certain distance. between you doing what LeBron James. does. And yes, there may be distance between. what we can do and what you're doing to. the extreme and the top 1%. but the thing is the possibility of us. getting closer to that is probably.

higher. So, everyone who's trying to get good at. golf, uh. yeah, your chances of you being Tiger. Woods is pretty impossible. Yeah. But for us to actually. reverse aging is probably more likely. and helpful to us in the long run as. well. Yeah, everyone, yeah. If you look. at this from like the the biggest time. scales, like a quick review of history, Buddha was like, "Hey, like there's some. suffering with life and the best way to. approach this is to detach yourself.". You know, this eightfold path. And then. Confucius had this idea of familiar.

relationships within community. Muhammad. said we should submit to God. Jesus. said, "I am the son of God.". Adam Smith said there's this invisible. hand of markets and capitalism and these. systems that can emerge. And then. America was like, "We the people." And. Karl Marx was like, "Actually, it's. class warfare.". And you know, it's like we have these. big ideologies that have shaped our. reality, but really humanity is run by a. very small number of things, like. political structures, economic.

structures, ideological structures, and. in this moment. we're experiencing a radical change of. technology. And when that happens, we. humans want to find things that are. useful to our objectives. And so we say, like, "Hey, capitalism, can you help. out? Hey, democracy, hey, Christianity, hey, Islam." Like, we kind of search and. say, "Who has answers?". And right now, every system society has fails to answer. the fundamental question, "What do we do.

as a species?" Like, what what do we do. as individuals? Like, when AI is. emergent, when we're building. superintelligence, what do I do? And. what do we do? And no existing structure can answer. that. That's true. Like, you look. throughout history, these ideologies. largely emerge in response to. technological change. It happens, and we. say, like, "We need help with a new. ideological structure.". And so that's what Don't Die is. Is. Don't Die is basically. meant to answer to like be the answer. That's why I think it can become on par.

with the major ideologies in a few. years' time. That this is the new way we. structure society. Yeah. Brian, thank. you so much for your time today. It's. been. It's been really illuminating and. fascinating to talk to you. And I'm. hoping that we get to hang out more. because. definitely share a lot of values and. share a lot of uh. desires for humanity and for each other. for ourselves. And so I hope I get to. learn a lot more from you, truly. Yeah, likewise. excited to learn from you. Uh we end. every On Purpose episode with a final. five. These questions have to be.

answered in one word to one sentence. maximum. Although I know I'm going to. break the rules because I'm I'm. fascinated. Uh but Brian Johnson, these are your. final five. The first question is, what. is the best health or longevity advice. you've ever heard or received? Build habits. Second question, what is. the worst health or longevity advice. you've ever heard or received? Cheat. days. Why are cheat days bad for us? They teach you bad habits. They are.

they inflict damage upon the body. They set. unrealistic expectations. It's a bad memetic. all the way down. Uh question number. three, what do you do for fun? Uh I love. outdoor adventure. So, I I drove a dog. sled in the Arctic. I raced in the in. the Moroccan desert. I went to a volcano. in Iceland. So, I'm rich with irony. where I'm the most don't die person in. human history and I also love to play. and adventure. I love that.

Uh I'm going to add a 3B. Do you drink. coffee? I do not drink coffee. Why don't you. drink coffee? My emotions and intellect. now are so steady from high-quality. sleep and a good diet and routine. exercise. that anything that creates a roller. coaster of change I avoid. And so, I. don't do caffeine, I don't do nicotine, no stimulants, and my mood is just. stable all day long. It is beautiful. Should people avoid drinking coffee? Uh. some people do very well with it. So,

I'm just sensitive to caffeine. So, I. think a lot of people do well. Do your. thing. Again, all my responses, do you. and follow the data. Question number. four, um. I recently invested in a company called. Function Health because I was upset. about the idea that getting great data. was hard and I wanted to make it more. accessible to lots of people. And so, the tens of thousands of people that are. using Function and Health now have. access to 200 data sets that they didn't. have before through a blood test made.

really simple. What other great data tools do you. believe in that you recommend to other. people to get more data because I think. a lot of this is because you just never. know. Exactly. Yeah, we with Blueprint, we have I think the most robust. measurement protocol in the world. It's. uh it's blood, it's your speed of aging, 11 organ ages, uh full body scan, and. microplastics. So, it's basically a. measurement profile that gives you the. same value as like a $25,000 executive. physical in a fraction of the price. So,

we've tried to make full body. measurement. uh the most affordable and best in the. world. Uh fifth and final question, we. ask this to every guest who's ever been. on the show. If you could create one law. that everyone in the world had to. follow, what would it be? To not follow laws. Which ones are you Which laws are you. taking out? All laws. Where where where How far does that How. far does that that go? To reframe it. from. uh don't do. to how to. Mhm. So, society would be.

instructions on how to. We would have enough alignment. within us and among us. that not do would be a thing of the past. because we just wouldn't be motivated. to do bad behaviors to self and others, and it would be a relic of the past that. we'd be amazed looking back that humans. did things that would be un- that would. be. harmful to self or others. You host. Don't Die Dinners.

Uh you've had a friend and guest of the. show, Kim Kardashian, at one of the. dinners. What does a Don't Die Dinner. look like? What happens at these. dinners? We can't tell you. Crazy things. Uh yeah, we um. people who attend will say it's uh the. most consequential conversation of their. life. So, we spend 2 hours I uh we do a. bunch of age tests to just introduce the. idea that you can measure biological. age. Then we serve everybody food. And. then we have a 2-hour discussion led by.

five thought experiments, and everybody. participates. So, everybody talks, everybody engages. I'm the moderator, and so it's very snappy, but people. leave uh. even years later, people still message. me saying, "I just can't to thinking. about these ideas. So, it's really a. transformative. time together. Yeah. So, you do get to. eat. I don't eat. Yeah. But, everyone else does. My guests eat. I don't. Yeah. Amazing. Bryan, thank you. so much for tuning in. Uh please recommend where our audience.

should find you, where you'd like them. to discover your work so that they can. get more data, get more insight, and. transform their health. Yeah, I'm on all. social platforms, and uh Blueprint. provides the supplements, nutrition, health. Uh my endeavor is about the. future of the human race. I'm trying to. do the world a solid in providing every. calorie, every test for the best health. in the entire world. So, if that. interests you, great. If not, my. objective primarily is the future of the. species. Yeah. Bryan, thank you so much. Thanks. Appreciate you.

If this year you're trying to live. longer, live happier, live healthier, go. and check out my conversation with the. world's biggest longevity doctor, Peter. Attia, on how to slow down aging and why. your emotional health is directly. impacting your physical health. Acknowledge that there is surprisingly. little known about the relationship. between nutrition and health, and people. are going to be shocked to hear that cuz. I think most people think the exact. opposite.