‘’This is How I KNEW He Was the One!’’ - Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco EXCLUSIVE

I want to go back to the first time you. ever met. Selena Gomez, thank you so much for. this. Benny, one of the greatest. Thank you. I told Selena that we're watching Disney. Channel. When you're a pop star like she. is and you're a huge entity and people. set up all these walls before and then. the first second you like disarmed. everybody. By the way, congratulations. on your engagement. When you first were. meeting and recording together, there. was a sense of you were protecting. yourself. What gave you confidence to. open up?

What I felt for Benny, it was everything. about him was honest. He'll tell me. anything that he's feeling and it made. me feel like I could do the same. If we would have met each other when we. were younger, it would have never. worked. We've both grown as individuals. and met at the perfect time and I. believe life is like that. When Benny. looks at me, I don't think he sees. anything but who I am. And it's very.

rare to find, but when you do know it. feels right. You talk about being best friends so. much. Was it scary thinking, what are we. going to lose if this gets romantic? The number one health and wellness. podcast. Jay Shetty. Jay Shetty. The. one, the only Jay Shetty. Oh my gosh, I'm so happy to be here. You. know I love you both. I know, we love.

you. It's such a fun like coming together. when this when you guys called me and. said you wanted to do this, I was just. like, how special is it that we first. met now 7 years ago? And then because of you I got to meet. this amazing man. And I feel like we've. kicked off a bromance. And That makes me happy. Yeah, and and. because of you I just feel like we've. been spending so much time together and. so I'm so grateful to you both for. trusting me and over the years and the. fact that you've been on you've been on. and now we get both of you. It's like. Thank you. It's so special. Yeah, it's a.

very safe cozy place. Benny and Selina. Hi. Welcome back to On Purpose for the. first time together. Yes. I am so. grateful to you both. It's been a joy. getting to know you both over the last. few years. And. I I'm so happy for you both. Thank you. Like this is just so beautiful and. special and because of you Selina I got. to know Benny so much more. And Benny and I've been hanging out. We've been meditating. We've been I love. that. eating. We've been That makes me really.

happy. But it's thanks to you. It's thanks to. you for bringing us together and I was. just saying as a man it's so hard to. make male friendships as you get older. Mhm. I really is that so? Yeah, I think. so. like when you're an adult it's like I. have my people and that's like what I. have to let a new person in? Like you. barely have time for your people that. you have so you're like wait in order to. get a new person I have to like move. another person down the list to slot a. new person in. because there's not enough because. there's not you know, you start to get.

to an age it's like and Larry David. always says this he says I have friends. that I'm not even friends with I've just. been friends with them for so long I. can't let them go because they're. already built in. It's like a therapist. They already know everything. You can't. teach a new person. That's hilarious. Selina disagrees. Oh, it's not necessarily that I disagree. I. I guess I just always thought that guys. have this immediate like what's up? And. then they're just like in a flow. So I. just I don't know I found that. interesting. Yeah, I feel like you get guarded as you. get older a little bit. Sometimes I wish. I weren't as wise because when you I'm.

not wise at all, but I'm saying like. it's like when you listen to something. like for me for music. I listen to. things when I was like 18 and I was like. oh my god. I didn't know any of the. rules. I wasn't thinking of anything. It. all comes so easily because you're not. confined to like this box that you've. put yourself in over the years. And then. by the end you're like oh. you know, I'm 36, almost 37 now." I'm. like, "Oh, I can't do that." And it's. it's like. there is some sort of freedom to being. really young, too. There definitely is.

There definitely is. But I was I was. saying that watching both your love. story, and I know you were saying Selena. 2 seconds ago, you're like, "This is. such a safe and cozy space to come to.". I'm hoping that today we get to know. your love story on a deeper level. Aw. And we get to access really what's in. your hearts and minds, because I think. there's so many interviews and so many. things that kind of will touch on the. surface level of stuff, but I hope we. can go deeper. So, what I want to start. with is I want to actually rewind. Mhm. And I want to rewind to a place where we. don't retell the story, but we get to.

relive your story with you. Right. And I. think there's a difference, because when. we tell a story, it's like, "This is. what happened." But when we relive it, it's almost like going back to who we. were when that happened. So, I want to. go back to the first time you ever met, and I want to hear about it. Well, the funny thing is is we actually. it was so long ago that we don't. remember it. We we we know that her. mother. put us in a meeting together when. How old were you? 16. So, she was 16. I didn't realize it.

was that long ago. And and and well, I'm. like 4 or 5 years older than you. So, I. was probably 20, 21. And her mom was. trying to get her into music, and her. mom is a. amazing. The way she goes from room to. room, gets things to. on the show, yeah. She's a powerhouse. gets things to happen, and you know, and. somehow she got us a meeting together, and. we don't remember that. And, you know, after we had done songs. together, there was one time.

where. I was probably 2000 16 or 17 or. something. I remember when. you. were in a studio, like Interscope. Studios. And I remember I came She. doesn't remember it, but I remember I. came in, and I had this. talk with you and I remember being like, "Whoa, wow, like Selena's really like a complex. person." Like in a good way and I was. like, "Wow, she's she's she's so deep.". And and we had this conversation where I.

really I was just really left by being. like, "Oh, she's deep." And then we went. and and thought nothing more of it and. then. when we did our song together, I. remember leaving leav- not not feeling. romantic at all. I just remember leaving. and I was talking, you know, cuz when. you're a pop star like she is and you're. a huge entity and and and you've done so. many things in your life. before like people set up all these.

walls before so it's like you get like. like before I came in they're like, "Well, you know, this thing's like this. and this is like this and like she might. not want to do that and like stop." And. they they speak for people so much and. then I remember we were so me and the. director were so nervous and then. the first second you like disarmed. everybody and I remember walking back. and Jake was like he's like the guy who. directed with me, he's like, "This is. going to be so easy. What they they made. it seem like she was this is going to be. this crazy thing." And the warmth I felt. from her in that moment, I remember.

leaving being like "Wow, Selena's such a. cool girl." She. And Selena, you don't remember this at. all? No, no, she remembers this. I remember the video part, but it was. interesting because um yes, I don't have. a very good memory, but. I just remember the video shoot. I. didn't see anything romantic or really. felt that, but I had a really good time. And that was probably the first time. after years of doing music together and. not together, that was the first time I.

really got to hang out with him and it. was fun. I had a good time. and that was that. Um and then how it. kind of continued it. I was always cautious because I always. wanted to make sure that I did protect. myself. So to be honest, I didn't talk. to him very often. I thought she hated. Really? I really did. that was coming. I really did. I thought. she didn't like I would see her and I. and I'd be like Does she not like me? Like and I like we weren't thinking.

about anything. I was like, wow, she. really like didn't talk to me a lot and. I was like I thought I was being nice. and like my friends would be like, no, no. And then like there was another time. I remember and my friends were like, oh. yeah, she was kind of weirdy. And I was. like. I'm so sorry. And there was like a few. times and I and I didn't know and I was. just like you know, I was like, that's. okay, you know. I thought I was being like polite by not. She didn't really engage. Basically, we. I was working on some music and we.

we went through some of the demos that. we had and Single Soon. came up, which is ironic because it was. actually nowhere near where I was in my. personal life, but Benny happened to do. the song. No, no, I didn't even do the. song. It was like one of my guys who did. the song. came to fix it. Yeah, and I like came to help out. because I was like, oh, I want their. song to I was like I don't like the way. this project Let me just at least help. them. I said I was like well, I'm not.

sure if it'll be okay cuz I don't know. if Selena likes me or something. And. then John Janick, the you know, the. president of Interscope, he was like, well, why don't you just go into the. session. Uh she usually doesn't have. people in, but just go in and like if. there is something that you feel is. weird, like try to just smooth it over. and talk to her and get in. I said, okay, I'm going to go smooth it over. So, I went in. It was so funny, right. before I came, her engineer told me like. later that she was like, ah, Benny's. coming. And she was like And here's our. reasoning. I'm going to defend myself. I.

get very nervous around the producers. watching me sing. Of course. It's just a. very intimate thing for me. I feel like. I need to sound a certain way or do. whatever to make them happy. And when I. get to record, it's just me and my. engineer and maybe someone I trust, I. get more out of the experience. So, I just was thinking, "Okay, well, maybe he'll stay for 10 minutes and. we'll just talk for a second." And.

10 minutes turned into like 30, then he. went to the other room and I finished. recording and he stayed there and then, yeah. This is too long. But No, no, so so. okay, so here So, from my perspective, here's what happened. I get in there. I'm like, uh And I'm. like, I got to smooth this out. this back and forth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, I don't. have this with anyone. Like, I I was. like, I want us to be chill. And. obviously, 99% of it was in my head and. uh and I come in. We just start talking. about life and her uh A&R's there, one.

of my friends is there. We're just We're. talking about life and we start talking. about dating and I was like, "Yeah, you. know, I went out on this date, blah blah. blah." And then I I was talking to her. and I said, "Oh my god, I have so many. good single guy friends." I was like, "We have dinners at the house all the. time. You should come over sometime.". And I wasn't even thinking about. anything. And we're like talking about. like our ideal day and like this and. that. And I wanted to make sure she did. the line right. So, I was like, "Oh, I'll stay there to like make sure it's.

good after." And then, um so, I did. We. left and then You text her. I yeah, I. didn't have her cell phone number cuz I. she changed her number a bunch. So, like. I like asked someone, I said, "Hey, uh. give me your cell phone number. I want. to say like uh you know, thank." And I I. wrote I was like, "Oh my god, you were". And and and during that, I when I was. with her, I was like, "Oh my god." I was. like, "Not only She's like really cool.". I was like, "I want to" I was like, "I. want to be like" I was like, "I want her. to be like in our friend group." And I.

what couldn't even be thinking I was. like, "I want her to be in our friend. group and I want to make sure this thing. smooth out so the song figures out goes. well and everything. So, I said, "Let me. just text her, thank you." or whatever. And I was like, "You know, you were so. sweet." or something. Something like. that. And then she writes back, I guess. we were just were texting throughout the. day and she she told me she looked back. at our message. She said, "Somehow you. started sending like uh selfies where. you looked really bad on purpose like. the worst ones in your phone.". about Why did you do that? Yes. Which by.

the way, no girl should really and or. anyone in their right mind to someone. they would have a crush on do that. But, we were talking about ugly photos like. cuz I always say I take the worst photos. sometimes and. he's like, "Oh, I you said something.". and I sent him the worst pictures of me. like. since like in bed sick and then you. know, me at weird photo shoots and now. looking back on it I'm.

I'm just thinking that's these are so. weird. I don't know why I sent them. in. that moment yet or not yet? Yeah. Oh, you did. Okay. So, I. I had no idea. So, I had no idea. And. somehow we decide. So, wait. Why did you do that if you. liked Benny? Why were you sending Well, because I didn't know that it was going. to be like maybe I thought it was just. going to be flirting and and not really. anything else. But, I really started to. to just. I don't know, fall for him.

So, I didn't know any of this. And then. we decide. we're like we're I forget how it. happens. We're like, "Yeah, let's hang. out." And I was like, "Oh, my friend's. having. uh a birthday party tomorrow." I was. like, "You just just come along." And I. was like just thinking friend stuff. And. then so, she comes to mine and I guess. she thought the party was going to be at. my house. But, I was like, "Oh." In my. head I was like, "Oh, she'll just come. over and and we can just like grab a a. first and then go there." Like I but. like not thinking anything of it. I was. like, "We'll just like grab a drink at.

my friend's wine bar. It's on the way. and then we'll go there." You were there. and and we were sitting together and she. said something like, "Well, you know, because it's a date I wore blah blah.". And I was like and and I was like, No, I. said I if this was a date, I definitely. would have dressed like a nicer. And he. just kind of looked at me and I thought. we were on a date. And I was like, "We're on a date?" And. then and then we went and then we didn't. really talk about it. you thought Who thought it was a date? She thought it was. Oh.

She thought it was a date. I'm sorry, a nice man takes me out for a. drink, I'm assuming it's a date. I didn't know. But no one had asked each. other out yet. No, it was like, "Let's just hang out.". Like and then we go to my friend's we go. to this Thai restaurant, we go to. Jitlada and we're like hanging out and. there's a bunch of people there and then. she all of a sudden like leaves. And she. was like, "I got to go to I have a video. shoot really early in the morning." And. I was like, "Okay." And I was like, but. I wasn't like cuz it wasn't a date to me. or anything. So I was like, "Okay, cool." And I stayed with my friends and. stuff. And then she texts me after and I.

remember you being like, "That was like. one of the most fun times I've had in a. really long time." So Lena, so you. technically asked Benny out on the first. official date. She did. She did like. every Walk us through Walk us through. that confidence, that that energy. because I think a lot of ladies. listening. That's the scary part. I think that's. when I recognized that I had some sort. of feelings for him. What I felt for. Benny, it was it was everything about. him was honest. When Benny looks at me, I don't think he sees anything but who I.

am. Oh, that's so cheesy to say, but. when you do know, it feels right. Walking to his house um or into his home. to go to his friend's thing, I was very. nervous. And I'm not normally like that. unless it's like an event or something. where it could be overwhelming. But with anyone I talk to, I'm able to. talk to people and I feel like I'm good.

at it. But I just felt like all these feelings. and then when we went out, I was. laughing and I didn't feel like you. wanted anything or there was weird. motives. It's It's sad that, you know, people have to think that way, but I. don't know. I felt this immediate safety. and I was very pleased that. I don't know. We were friends and then. we became.

Yeah. The next time we hung out, it was. it was we just hung out at home and we. just like we're chilling. We're playing. that game. We're not really strangers. Do you. yeah. That's a great game. And my my. friend made that game. And and we were just playing it and we. had both played it and I was like, okay, sure, we can play it. And we played it. and there was like a card that said. like, take a selfie together. And we. like took a selfie like screwed up. We. took a selfie and then right after the. selfie we just kissed and then Okay. No,

that's it. And then she's very private. And then And then basically the rest was. history and we started hanging out so. much and it just like very quickly. I was like. oh my god, my whole life I was like. oh, this is I this is my person. Like. I'm going to marry this person. This is. Oh, this is the thing. This is what it. feels like. It was so different than any of those. feelings. I was like, holy I just. I met my best friend. This is my best.

friend. Nothing gets any better than. this. It can't get better. There's no. This is my This is like better than any. friend I have that's a guy and I get to. kiss them. Like it was like it was it. was insane to me. So I was like, I can't. let this go. I got I and it It was so. funny because before I met her, I. with my therapist I'd made a list saying. like these are all the things I want. I'm tired. You want to know it? Okay, okay, okay. So, before I met her, you know,

I was a. guy in in in LA trying to find the one. for me and I was having some trouble and. I and and and I think I was like maybe. not looking in all the right places and. I was like, okay, it's time to be a. grown-up. Like I want to like start a. life. I want to have a family. I want to. find a person that like is my other half. that makes me feel better and I make. them feel better and it's it's it's a. give-and-take. It's the perfect yin and.

yang. So, I wrote down a list and the. first thing on my list was. age-appropriate, okay? I love that. That's great. That's great. Got it. Got. it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got. okay? So, that was number one on my. list. Yes. Not number one, but it was. the first thing I wrote. Yeah. And then. the second thing I wrote was I said, I. know these are so simple, but it's so. hard to come by. Somebody who's kind, compassionate, and caring. I was like, that's really three in one, but that was like but I was like I need. someone who's like nice and is it like a.

genuine nice person. You said something really important. The. reason I'm bringing it up is because I. feel a lot of women, but a lot of people. feel this way and you said. when you first were meeting and. recording together, there was a sense of. you were protecting yourself. Yes. And that's a very human thing and I. think it's a very normal thing in. especially in this day and age, especially in your position to add to. it. What was it that you know, at one. point you said, I'm going to adopt at 35. if I don't find someone. Like you had.

your whole life mapped out when you met. Benny, but then and you said you were. protecting yourself, but then you. started to open up. Could you walk us. through what gave you confidence to open. up? But what that feels like when you're. trying to protect yourself, because I. think that's the push and pull that. everyone's going through. Well, I think first of all, making plans. and trying to stick to them is silly, cuz you don't know what's going to. happen. And I can't believe that I get. to marry my best friend, so it But yes,

I I think for me I was genuinely set. But it was once I let go of me just. saying I want someone, and I wish I had. this, and I wish I had that. Instead, I. changed my mind to I'm so lucky that I. get to wake up and my family's healthy, and I love spending time with my. friends. And you know what? If it. doesn't happen, I know that I've always. wanted to be a mom, and you know, so of. course I kind of planned that out. I.

think it was because. when Benny looks at me, I don't think he. he sees anything but who I am, and. that's very rare to find. He knows when I'm feeling a certain way, and kind of. before I can even let it get to a place. of where it's unbearable, he has already. talked to me through. a spiral. And protecting myself from.

multiple reasons, you know, doing you. know, doing music, working with someone. that's kind of, you know, like, oh, I. don't know if I should do that. But I. genuinely just want I just happened. I. think when you know, and oh, that's so. cheesy to say, but when you do know, it. feels right. Um I think that that's what happened to. me, and I just felt very comfortable. with him. Yeah. Benny, how do you feel that you. almost sabotaged your relationship by. nearly introducing Selena to your.

friends? How does that feel? Like when you're. like, hey, wait a minute, come with me. friends. There might be some nice guys. for you to meet. I feel like it all. happens for a reason. I feel like maybe. me doing that is what disarmed her. enough to like, you know, it's We talked. about this before like if we would have. met each other when we were younger, it. would have never worked. It's like we've. both grown as. individuals and met at the perfect time. and I believe life is like that and. sometimes it doesn't make sense and. sometimes it's not the right reasons and.

we're like, why is this happening? But I. always believe that. I you know, I don't know. I believe in. fate. I believe in all that. And I. believe, you know, if you're good to people, karmically, it's going to come back to you 10 times. over. Maybe you might get in that. moment. Someone's going to do you really. dirty, but over a long period of time, I. think things are going to go your way. Yeah. Was it scary because you you talk. about being best friends so much? Was it. scary thinking, what are we going to.

lose if this gets romantic as friends? No, no, it didn't go right away. It. happened right away. This was all one. day. That was one day. Like Like everything. really happened within and then look, there was. Once we knew that we liked each other, there's that part where like, you know, we're both extremely busy people. So. it's like. it takes a second to where you fully. prioritize, you know, cuz it's like at. first you date someone, you say, "Okay, well, I'll see you this time once a. week." And then it's like, "Ooh, okay,

this person's getting cool. Go twice a. week." And then it's like, "Wait, don't. leave my house. I miss you." Like it all. happened so quickly. One thing that you. both did was you had a long-distance. relationship for a while. Like you were. in different states and managing that. You both have crazy work schedules. And. I was thinking, in your positions, it. can get very easy to be like, "Oh, that. person's never available. They canceled. again." Like, "Oh, they've got a million. things. They're running away." I mean, you were just about to say you both are. starting to travel together right now. for work as well. But how did you manage.

that cuz I think a lot of our viewers. are like, do long-distance relationships. work and do two busy people. relationships work? How would you both. say you've managed both of those parts? Biggest thing in the world is trust. Um, I can say with all my heart that I. trust this person. Um, so for me, knowing that I have a 12-to-14-hour day. on set, I won't get to talk to him every second, which I don't need, but I know just.

hearing from him one time, check in with. me and say, I love you and I hope the day is going. well, I just feel safe and I've never. felt that before. And if you feel like. you're in a situation that doesn't feel. like you're a unit, that makes it. scarier and then that causes friction, then it causes trust issues. So for me, I would have to say communication and. trust helps, but it it doesn't.

always work. It's hard. I feel like at. the beginning there were a few uh. almost almost. sabotages. She didn't like she was like. That's fair. at the very beginning. in like her first few trips away, she. was still gaining that trust. So there. was there were moments of sincere doubt. No, yeah, yeah, we all have. we all have moments in our life because. like we're only made up I tell everyone.

this, it's like. when you when you start dating someone, you're not only dating them, you're. dating every single person they've ever. dated, every single relationship they've. ever had in their past, every because. you're getting every piece of baggage. that person's carried and that what. they've learned through their own. personal life, through the life with. partners, with their parents, with this, that. Um. I had to find a way. to build that trust with her, and make. it feel overbearing and make it feel. real, and make her actually believe it.

And vice versa, like I know that she. fully try if I say, "Hey, I'm just going to do this today.". There's no where in her mind that's. thinking that. And if for any chance. that she I always told her I said, "It's. okay. If you have moments of doubt in. something in a feeling, always talk to. me and I'll talk you through anything. that you may have. that you know, if you say, "Hey, I know this is a crazy thing. I just had. a dream and I woke up from this dream. and I was upset." Sometimes she'll just.

say like, "Please tell me I can trust. you or please tell me you're not doing. anything stupid." And I say, "You can. call me anytime you want." And and I'm. aware. of. her strengths and I'm aware of her. weaknesses. And what I try to do is. surround her with a lot of things to. help her. So, if she's away. and I have to go to a dinner, then a. party, then this thing, then that thing, it's a simple text in between each.

things that says, "Hey babe, I'm going to this next thing. I'm thinking about you." Hey, you know, you know, where where couples where it. starts to hit is when. they miss that text. They don't call the. person. They wait until the next that. like it's just like. I know what she needs to succeed. So, I'm going to help her succeed. I'm not. going to be a dick. I'm not not going to. hit her up. And she doesn't need a lot. She's like the easiest person in the. world. But I know, yeah, she wants to. talk to me before she goes to bed. She.

wants me to say I love you. She wants me. to text her if I wind up having to stay. somewhere 2 hours late. Just a just a. simple take out your phone and ba ba ba. ba ba. Done. And and I know that No, I. know that stuff. really helps, especially when you're. long distance, because it's natural. You're far away from someone. You say, "I'm not with this person. I'm not as. connected to them. We're not We're not. meant to be far You're not supposed to. be long distance with your partner. You're supposed to be right next to your.

partner." Like it's like it We do things. in life. that that we have to do, and we both. are very focused on our careers, and. we're very driven, and you have to find. a way to make it work that's. comfortable. You have to talk to your. partner. You have to understand them. I. think people's biggest problem, especially men, are that. we don't listen all the time. You got to. listen. Just shut the up and. listen. Listen to what they're saying. They're. A woman is going to tell you exactly. what she needs. Like when guys are like,

"I don't know what she wants. I don't. know." She told you already. You're just. an idiot. You're not listening. Just. listen. A girl is. If a girl is getting frustrated with you. on something, she's definitely told you. multiple times, and you're just not. paying attention. Um so, it's like just. listen, and don't be reactionary. Proactively do. these things. I don't know if you do the. same thing, but when that when you're. away from your partner, you just try to. think little things that's going to make. them feel more comfortable, better. You. know, I'm I'm on the other hand, I'm. like living on the moon, so it's like. she doesn't have to really do anything.

for me, cuz I'm like I'm all in on on. everything with her, and. I fully trust her in every capacity, and. my whole life I've always been like. this. I trust everyone until they give me a. reason not to. Yes. Okay? And I trust people to be who. they are. Okay? And so far, I know who she is. So, until further notice, that's how I'm. going to treat her. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I totally get that. Yeah. That's.

my thoughts on it. No, I love that. It's. the character that gets judged. It's the. way I'm not white enough. I'm not. Mexican enough. There's just these so. many different things that come up in in. my face that I can't but see. It just. doesn't feel safe and I don't like being. myself sometimes. That's a bigger. problem than just talking about it in a. relationship. I was very reactive. I. think that's why I was alone for 5 years.

cuz I really needed to collect myself. I think in the past that's why I say to. him all the time and 10 years ago it's. not that I wouldn't have wanted to be. with you. I just wouldn't have been in. the right headspace. I remember there. was a time we didn't want this to be. like a public thing because. unfortunately for Selena her life is. is always under the spotlight being. scrutinized at every moment and this and.

that and for good for bad and I remember. sitting with her and we'd been seeing. each other. you know, secretly for months and months. and months and. and we were about to go to New York and. we just made a conscious effort that we. were like. we don't want to do this anymore. We. want to be able to go out and have fun. and like and you know, just live our. lives and. at that point I knew. that it was serious enough to dive in. Like like that I was like, okay, I don't.

care what comes with this because I love. this person so much already that like we. literally said I love you on that trip. Yeah, I said it. She had already said I love you to me a. few times. Okay, wait. So the album. I said I love you. fast. So Selena, you said I love you. fast. Yes, she said it a few. What what made you want to say that. because that's a big step I assume. I definitely have never been the first. So this is the first time in your life. you were the first. Yes. Wow. I wanted him to also know how committed.

I was and deep down I just. felt that and I. I I was tired of protecting myself. We. had spent enough time together where. I you know, I felt like this was my. person and I I had the courage enough to. say it, but I. was very nervous and. luckily he said it back. Did you say it back the first time? Um. well, there was a Okay. Oh, okay. Well, there's been some.

slip-ups. Well, okay. Okay. Well, she was she um. has a plate in her hand cuz she she had. like an accident and she was like coming. up from I think that was the first time. She was coming out of anesthesia. and and she was like sitting there and. she was like. I love you. And then I was like, "What?" And she was. like and she was like, "I I love you.". And I I don't remember I didn't say. anything back yet because I was like, "I.

can't have this be the first time." And. then one time she was with her friends. and they were at dinner. and she was like. "Oh, we really wish you were here. We. love you." I mean, what. And then just hung up. Like it literally. was like, "I love you. And then she started wanting to really. say it and she was like. it was right when I was going to do it. It was the same night and I was like, "Hey, let me get my stuff out.". And I You literally said that and then I. just said, "I love you." And I was like,

"Please I was like, please just let me. out cuz I had it was like. I had felt it. and I was about to do it and and I was. like, "I want to wait until New York so. it's special. Be in my house. Like it'll. be a good thing." And then the day I was. doing it, she was like she was like. couldn't take it anymore and she said it. and then we said it. And the thing. that's crazy is you know. before you say I love you, it's like. this thing. It's like taboo. You're. scared to say. And then after you're. like, "Oh my god, I can't like you want.

to say it a thousand times in a row. You. never want I can't even understand how I. went so long without saying it to her. I. say it 3,000 times a day to her and I. like I I make sure every day I say, "I. love you so much. Like I love you a. million times." And then I always tell. her how beautiful she is and how lucky I. am to have her every day. You know what. I mean? It's so annoyingly cute. And I always wanted No, and I always. want to do that because I want her to. know that every day I don't take any of.

anything for granted. And I still look. at her and my breath gets taken away in. so many different ways and I I said it. to her last night. We were sitting We We. were in like the pool or something. together last night and we were just. hanging out and I was just like, "You're so beautiful." And I don't mean. that just physically. I'm saying like. you can feel it. There's like a ring. like an aura around her that exudes just. like. warmth and it and it just You're like. making me want to cry. And I How do you react in the moment.

when that happens, Selina? Cuz Benny, we're basically the same person. I do. the same thing to my wife. Yeah. I do that to her all the time. lucky. Probably will just pull the funniest. face in the world. Like yeah. I was. like, "How do you react when when. Benny's telling you all these amazing. things, Selina? What do you say?". Because I I say, "No, let's be honest. I. also have equally grateful." And I tell. him that all the time. I I just. it makes me feel like it's not real. And. I'll like sometimes I'll be like,

"This seems too good to be true." Like. he's so sweet to me, but now I've. accepted it. I think I I actually love. it so much that it just makes me want to. give him that support and that love. back. So uh it's safe to say I feel much. safer doing that now and I like it. I. think so many people. feel that when someone's that nice, and. that's coming from someone who's like. that myself with friends, family, and.

obviously with my with my wife, too. A. lot of the time that's seen as a. weakness. Like people kind of look down. on it when someone's that open about. their feelings. Especially I get asked. that a lot when I'm giving relationship. or dating advice. People will be like, "Oh no, but if if I come on too strong, people get turned off." What this time. was different for you where it's like. he's he's being really affectionate, he's being really open, but there's a. part of you that realizes that's what. you want and that's what you deserve. Because the.

world has become so hard. to. please, if you will. I'm called fake, I'm called. I it's it's insincere, it's fake, all of. this like. it just doesn't feel safe, and I don't. like being myself sometimes. And that's. a That's a bigger problem than just. talking about it in relationship. Because it makes you feel like you have. to question the way you're acting. And I.

genuinely, yeah, I have really bad days. and sometimes I don't have the energy to. do what I'm doing, but I try 99% of the. time to be kind and to just be happy and. grateful for what I have, and that just. almost isn't cool anymore. And I hope that that conversation can. kind of start eventually because it's. not. it's not good. I won't always be that.

person that I was, but it gets harder. and harder. What I felt for Benny, it was it was. everything about him was honest. It. wasn't just that he was honest with me, he was honest about where he was at in. life, and. um he'll tell me anything that he's. feeling, and it made me feel like I. could do the same. But he's the one person. you know, when you're saying those nice. things to me, babe. It's like so sweet. But I believe him to where.

I'm not going to believe someone who. is blowing smoke up my butt to just make. me feel good. He's saying it cuz he. means it. And I believe it. Yeah, that's. beautiful. That honesty. that someone has in every area of their. life including their bad days, their. tough days, their challenging days, then. when they're saying that Yeah. whether their day is good or bad and. they feel that way resonates with us. I. think we all all sense that. And I I I. love what you said. I think it's so. important that we make it cool again to.

care for people and be cared for and we. make it cool again to love people and. feel loved and we make it cool again for. people to be kind and Yeah. to receive. kindness. I feel like it's like a macho. thing. Like guys guys are always trying. It's like stop trying to be cool. Like. it's like guys try to be so cool and. like they don't want to I think it's. cool to show your emotions. I think it's. cool to tell your the person like I call. my mom and up and I tell her how. beautiful she is, too. Like and I I I. think it's cool to make people feel. good. I think it's cool to like you.

know, I just feel like people like are. trying to push people down a lot. sometimes like to make themselves feel. better. But you look so much cooler and. so much better if you're making other. people feel. look better. You'd. feel like a better person. That's what I'm saying though. But it's. like I don't understand why people like. choose not to do that. And it's like. Yeah, it's it's something I'm very. passionate about. Something that I do. want. to start talking about more. I want to. be a good example. I'm not the perfect.

person. Lord knows I've made tons of. mistakes and continue and will continue. to. Yeah. But I think it's important. that we talk about that. Yeah, I'm. really glad you both raised it because I. think so many of us are actually. accepting less than we deserve. Mhm. Because we want what's cool. Not. what we deserve. Yeah, like me. explaining to right now, I want to. change my whole approach to anything. because of. like one thing that I did. Like that's I.

don't want to have to change who I am. Like. that was hurtful, for sure. I don't ever. want to do I don't do any of that. Like. when somebody. I don't care what's going on. No, he's great at that, which helps me. not care as much, but. I don't care about what anyone says. I. don't care about comments. I don't care. about press. I don't care about. interview I don't care about what anyone. says. And I love that. Yeah, I just try to Have you always been. that way? Yeah. What what made you that confident? Because I think a lot of people need to. hear that. Cuz it's like this, okay.

Why are you reading the comments, okay? There's two reasons. You're either reading the comment. because you want people to be like, "Oh. my god, I love you.". Or you want someone to say, "You piece. of You're ugly. You look like. shit." You know what I'm saying? And. it's like and you don't need either one. of those answers. I'd rather just free. fall through life, and I don't need to. know any of that stuff. And I don't know. I've never even read an interview back. ever that I've ever done. I don't look. at the pictures. Like I ask my manager,

I say, "Hey, did I say something stupid. in the interview?" And if he says yes, I. say, "What did I say that was stupid?". Or I say, "Okay, great." If it's. something like I don't want to know. There's always going to be someone. trying to bring you down. Hating is free. Okay? So, people are going to be hating. all over the world. They're going to be. hating from their bedroom. They're going. to be then And I just don't even. understand it. I've never even thought. in my mind to like to like go on. someone's page be like, "Jay, that. shirt's ugly. Why'd you wear that? Those.

stripes look like Jay." No, I. never even thought about that. Like if. anything, I write like, "Oh my god, I. love this show, Jay." Like I I and I. just don't think we live in this weird. world where people seek validation in so. many different ways. And I don't think. we need And I know it's hard. I know. it's hard. And people want it, and you. want to read the comments. You want to. look at it. But I just don't think I'm. going to gain anything from it. In that. time I could be looking at those. comments, I could be hanging out with my. friends, or like going on a walk, or.

eating something delicious. Or on the. phone with my mom. Much healthier. Yeah. I think I think you have that, too, and. it's why you've been so successful in. music, Benni, yourself, because I think. you can create original sound because. it's not trying to be like someone else. or impress someone else. Like it's it's. partly why you're so good at your craft. Yeah. Because to make great music, to. invent new sounds, to create new genres, to create spaces for artists to play in, it requires that confidence in I'm not. trying to sound like this. I'm not. trying to be like this. I'm not trying.

to impress. So it's really interesting, too, because I feel like when you're. growing up, your whole life you're told. to fit in. Yeah. And then when you grow up, you have to. stand out. But then when you stand out, then everyone has a chance to point. fingers because when you're doing. something differently, that's the only. time people point fingers. If you kind. of follow what everyone else is doing, no one will ever point fingers. Do you. Do you read the comments? No, I'm the. same as you, but I I got really good. advice early on, as well. I remember. someone saying to me, they said, "Jay, you get If you get a hundred comments,

you're going to look through all of them. to find the one that's negative, right? That's the way the brain works. Of. course. And then you make it out like that one. negative comment is the entire comment. section. And so if someone said, 'Jay, those stripes are ugly,' I'm not walking. around my whole life thinking the. stripes are ugly. And let's get honest, that goes even. deeper. If someone says something about. you, when you were saying, like someone. called you fake, or someone called you. Well, I was basically also going to. point out that women have it much worse.

Please tell Yeah, tell us about it from. your perspective. From my perspective, it's it's pretty um. wild. And I think this isn't news to. anybody that obviously women have a lot. more intense feelings from their. appearance to, you know, what they are. wearing to everything. And I'm saying. this is to me when I forget prepared for. an event. 90% of the time I'm just like I just. hope I can take the picture and sit.

down. It's the character that gets judged. It's the way. I'm not white enough. I'm not Mexican. enough. I'm. I don't know. There's just these so many. different things that come up in in my. face that I can't help but see. But I I. fall victim to like looking at at things. and it really it doesn't add to your. life, but it's just so difficult from. the choices of you know, the people you.

date. It's like nobody cares about those. kind of things with men. They're just. like, "Yeah, they they did that. They. said that. They you know, they did. this." And so I think we just carry a. lot. Oh, yeah, my weight's a big one, too. Everyone just has something to say. and it's really making me sad and not. even sad cuz you know what? No, I'm not. a victim of Ruwan. I just think it's. made me a tad bitter. And I feel really. guilty for saying that, but it's true. I.

I don't know. It's a really interesting. time, isn't it? Because and I'm so happy. that you both are talking about this. because I feel like on one end we're all. like. body positivity, let's talk about mental. health, let's protect each other. Like. there's this whole conversation. And. then on the other side we're like. pointing fingers at people about their. weight and their appearance and whatever. else it is, like you said, judgments of. character, especially you saying with. women. And I find that so interesting because. I'm like, "Wait a minute. Don't we. realize that the same people who are.

saying mental health matters Yeah. same people that are pointing fingers at. people that can affect people's mental. health?" I'm just happier that I don't. have that, you know, I had to stop after. a while and I still take breaks. completely cuz I'm human, so of course. sometimes I read things and but I do. most of the time ignore most of. everything. I don't have anything on my. phone at the moment. So there are ways. to combat it. I'm doing it. I'm not in. like um.

I'm not in like I hate it. I understand. the power of what social media is. It's. just um tricky. Yeah. Yeah, it is very. tricky. But thank you guys. Yeah, thank. you for opening up about it because I. can imagine it just gets exhausting. after a while. It's just like. just tired of it, you know, it's just. cuz it's all the same and you're. processing all the same stuff. But what. about you, Selena? What's been the way. that you've been able to manage your. crazy work schedule, staying committed. to the relationship, finding time to. make memories, and make experiences?

you know, I will say. it's hard It's very hard for me. And. like Benny said in the beginning it was. very difficult for me to take trips. away. It just makes me feel. once I understood and got to know him. and I wasn't afraid to tell him like, "Hey, I just want to make sure like. it's not that I don't trust you. Can you. just text me before you, you know, go to. your next thing?". And I was able to do that with him and.

he wasn't combative. He wasn't like, "Why? I don't You What Why you don't. trust me?" It was just we were like, "Yeah, I can totally do that." And with. that day by day I feel more and more. open and. you know, we're going to be separated. again while I go shoot in New York and. um. yeah, I'm ready for it. I think it's. it's doable, but it's not fun. Exactly. It's not fun, but but it found. It sounds like you found a system that.

works for you and the the system is so. simple is literally just listening to. the other person. If the other person. says, "Hey, I need this." It's not now. like a debate around whether they don't. trust you because I think a lot of us if. someone said that to you, Bonnie, like. it would be easy for your reaction to be. like "Well, how can you not trust me? Like you always know where I am. Like. how why do I have to do this every day?". Like you could have that reaction, but. that reaction doesn't make the. relationship better. And I think that's. where often that goes where someone.

vulnerably. Yeah. says, "Hey, all I need is this." If. someone's coming at you with a certain. energy, you're already going to buck. back. Like she always comes in a way. where she's like, "Well, I didn't like. this because of this, this, and this.". I'm like. she just said it so nice that I have to. I'm like, "No." Cuz I'm like I. have to approach this in a different way. because she came at it with such class. and effort. So like I'm not going to. come back at her like that. I'm going to. come back at her and say, "Well, I agree.

with what you're saying." Or "You know, I disagree and here's why." You know, and it and that's how we talk through. everything. Yeah. And then another thing was I. really wanted a person. that. when I wake up. I think to myself, I'm like, "How can I. make Selina's day better? Like how what. can I do in my day to make her day. better?" Because then that makes my day. better. And I wanted to find a person. like that. And I know when Selina wakes. up like the first thing she's thinking. is like how can. I make his day better. And we have such.

a give and take. Like I could never even see a world. where I would ever yell at her, she. would ever yell at me. Like we don't. argue like that. Like I feel like I feel. like we just have conversations. Like. there's never an argument. Sometimes. she'll say, "This is so funny." Oh, boy. No, no, no. She'll do this and it's. really cool. She'll go. "I'm feeling a little irritated and I. think I need like. 25 minutes.". And I'll say, "Okay." And then I would. give her her space, and then after like. 5 minutes she text me. She's like, "Hey,

will you come back? I miss you.". But but it's But it's knowing that and. we have the proper boundaries set with. each other. Like, I don't have to be on. top of her every second. She doesn't. have to be on top of me every second. we're together. I just want to know. she's in the house so I can say like, "Hey, I love you." and then go back to. what I'm doing. You know what I mean? Cuz Look, we're both highly independent. people, okay? But we're both little mushes who just. need to be attached at the hip. are so cheesy. It's so fun.

But it's like But I feel like I think it. helps us, too, that we're both, you. know, on my list a thing was. I wanted someone to be driven and. inspired by something. I didn't care if. they made any money or anything. I just. wanted someone to be so into something. that they did every day. And when she. comes back from her day and she tells me. what she did, I'm like I'm not sitting. there like, "Yeah, uh-huh, uh-huh." Like. when you're talking to your mom. You. know when you're talking to your mom and.

you just say Your mom just keeps talking. and you go, "Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah." Like, she comes back and like my eyes light up. because I see the enthusiasm. I see what. she did, and I'm like It can inspire me. and I'm like, "I got to do more in this. lane." And it's like we're in this place. where. we're. inspiring each other. And we're so. inspired by what the other person's. doing and and she'll help me out. She'll. be like, "Well, what if you did it like. this this and this?" And I'm like. And then she'll say something and I'll. be like, "Well, why don't you handle the. situation?" Because we have such.

different personalities that are also. the same, but we're The thing that one. of us is really good at, the other one. maybe lacks a little bit and vice versa. And it's so cool to be able to like. workshop like little conversations or. how to handle a situation. And it And I. just feel so comfortable with her like. that I can say anything and she won't. ever say. I don't know. I love the maturity. I. mean, hearing you both talk about it is. Yes, but let's be clear. We are not the.

perfect. No, no, no. perfect. No, but you're disagreeing. No, no, no, but I I I think the maturity. of And and I agree with you. I think I. think that's actually the difference and. I'm glad you brought that up. I think. there's a big difference between. maturity and perfection. Yeah. Perfection is saying, we never. have a disagreement, we never have to. take space from each other. We Yeah. You. know, which you're not saying. You're. saying, "Hey, I just asked for 25. minutes of space." And then I was like, "Wait a minute, I need you.". Yeah. And I think there's a maturity in. that because it requires maturity from. both parts. For you to first say, "Hey,

I need space." For you to say, "I get. it. I respect you." And then for you to. have the maturity to say, "Actually, I. want you back." And for you to be like, not like, "Oh, I told you so." For you. to be like, "I'm here for you." Like, that that's not perfection. To me, that's maturity and I think that's I. really want people to get that from it, that you are going to have. disagreements. You are going to want. space. Like, me and Roddy went through. that. She, at the beginning of our. relationship, if we had a disagreement, and we were the same. We never We made a. rule that we'd never raise our voices at.

each other because I came from a home. where it was not great. She comes from a. home where her parents don't raise their. voices. But, I was just like, I never wanted. that in my home. I wanted the energy of. my home to be so sacred and I wanted the. energy of the home to always have a. space where everyone just walked in and. felt like a warm hug. And I was like, we. can't argue and then expect that to. happen. But, it took a long time for us to. realize that when she, at the start of. our disagreements, she wanted space, and. I used to say to her, "Well, if you. don't want to talk about it right now,

that means you don't care about me." And. that wasn't true. She just needed space. to process. So, it took time for us to. mature, for me to realize, "Wait a. minute, you wanting space is you caring. Yeah. the relationship.". Some people, I get it. They want to talk. about it right then. They want to The. one thing that also works for us so much. is like we're not chill people, but. we're like we're not we're never going. to get I like I'm not going to yell at. anyone in my life. Like Yeah, same. Yeah, and you know, I I came from a home. where a lot of that was happening. And I.

saw. like at a young age and I was just like. well, like my parents weren't speaking. the same language. Obviously they were. speaking the actual same language. They. weren't speaking. the same language to each other to. communicate. And if someone comes at you. like hostile right away, the first thing I'm going to do and I. know she's going to do is shut down. So. you're not getting anything. You know. what? I always say this. Guys are so. quick to like. they got to win. They got to win the.

argument. And it's like what are you. doing? What are you winning? Like you're. going to argue with your wife and like. make her cry and then you're like I won. that argument and then she hates you and. resents you. Like wait like don't be an. idiot. And and it's like I only. I've been guilty though to start. Yeah, I don't know. I just. you, sorry. I just. I think for me I necessarily. felt like in other situations of mine it. was. I was very reactive. I think that's why.

I was alone for 5 years cuz I really. needed to collect myself. I think in the. past that's why I say to him all the. time and 10 years ago it's not that I. wouldn't have wanted to be with you. I. just wouldn't have been in the right. head space. And I don't think that you. deserve what I had gone through before. So I've learned a lot of lessons and. I've made mistakes and and I just want. this to be. right. So for me that was a lesson that.

I had to learn cuz I think girls can. equally want to be right. But for me it. was really difficult in the past and. he's made it unbelievably easy to the. point where if I even get to the point. where I'm so. frustrated, he's like very quick to. understand I'm I hear you. Like you're. allowed to feel that and. that helped me shift where my mind used. to go, which was a little bit of anger. So. the validation of how you felt in those.

reactive moments. Yes. that allowed you to not be. reactive. What was it that allowed you. because I feel like as Benny was saying. earlier, you carry this baggage from all. of our relationships into this one. I respect Benny. I because he's done nothing but respect. me. I again trust him. I can tell him anything even if it's. about something that's uncomfortable and. maybe she should just talk to your. girlfriends. Like he is that and.

that helps calm me down to say, "Okay, so I'm going through these things cuz of. maybe what I had before or whatever it. is. It's No nothing is ever bad. Like. nothing in my life I regret and I'm so. so happy for my journey and I'll. continue to be. It is a lesson that you have to be. patient and learn and. I I just I can never picture myself. disrespecting him. I think Well, it's.

it's also just a different thing because. it's like look, none of us are perfect. Like. she gets spicy sometimes and when I see. something happening, it's about guiding. the missile, not adding a jetpack on top. of it with a with like machine gun. artillery. Like I want to make if I see. her getting to a place where I'm like, "Man, in 5 minutes from now, this room could. explode." I'm never going to let it get. to that 5 minutes from now. I'm going to. say, "What are all the tools that I know.

that work for her?" That I've learned. over Like I'm not going to exacerbate a. situation. I'm going to try to calm it. down cuz why do I want to be in that. position where we're both just like. upset about something? I don't want to. just calm it down and tell her what she. wants to hear. I'm not saying that. I'm. not saying like to your partner be like, "Yes, you're right. You're totally. right. Like everything you No. I think. you listen and you say like, "Okay. We're Like sometimes I even I'll say. like, "Let's not let it get there. Let's. like just talk about this." And I I do.

think. physical touch is always like a very big. way. Like if you're in a conversation. with your partner, like it's like. sometimes just like a hand helps or just. holding their hand while you're telling. them or giving them a hug while you're. telling them and and someone's upset, let them talk it out first. and then after they talk it out be like, "Okay, well, here's what I think." You. know, and and you can work through these. things together. There's such an easy. way. It's not Yeah, it's not always easy. I can tell you.

that. And sometimes we just someone. wants to be frustrated and it's like. sometimes she'll tell me that. She'll. just be like, "I know it's going to be. okay, but like I just want to be. frustrated in this moment." Yeah. And. and I'll have to redirect cuz I'll be. like, "You know what? You have every. right to be in this moment." And she'll. say, "This is why" She said, "This is. why I want to be frustrated in this. moment." She said it the other day about. something. I can't even remember. And I. was just like, "Oh my god." I was like, "Yeah." I was like, "That makes so much. sense." I was like, "I don't agree with. the frustration. We'll get there. afterwards." And I was like, "But I get. it. I get it." And it's so cool and I've.

never quite had a relationship. like with her. And we're the furthest. thing from perfect in the world. We're. perfect for each other. We're not. perfect for everyone else. But I think. the thing that's cool is that we've had. all these experiences. I've had all my. experiences where it wasn't right and. I'm like, "Oh, okay. I'm going to change. that the next time, you know, with this. person or with that person." And I think. that's when you really grow. It's when. you take all your experiences good or. bad. Like I I'm like her. I take every.

experience in my life, my past partners, my family, my everything. It's like. everything happened for a reason. And. I'm not going to sit here and mope about. like things that could be better or. different. What I'm going to do is I'm. going to say, "Okay, I learned this. and now I'm going to put it into. practice.". Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I always. always say to Dorothy, I always say to. my wife, "Do you want me to listen? Do you want me to fix this? Or do you just want me to go through it. with you?". Yeah. Cuz a lot of times they don't want.

you to fix it right away. And I'm not. saying I'm saying men or women. Sometimes it's not about fixing, you. know, everyone is you know, I'm such a. problem solver and you are too. So it's. like your first thing you I know the. first thing in your head is like, "How. can I fix this situation?" But sometimes. it's not about fixing it right there. Sometimes it's about just like, you. know, especially for. women who are like strong like both our. partners, they don't have a lot of time to be. vulnerable. in all the areas of their life. They. have the world on their back. Your wife.

has there's so many people that rely on. her. There's so many people that rely on. her. So sometimes they just want to. complain about something and that's. okay. That's okay. It's okay. Who else are they going to do. it to? They might as well do it and you. and you just listen. I have to ask you. both about this because I was so excited. when the news came out and it just, you. know, it was it was so beautiful to see. it go from where it started to this, but. your proposal. And and now you're. engaged and like that just I can tell I. mean it just it feels just beautiful.

being in the same space with you both. loving on each other which is great. Uh. Selena, what was the proposal like? Like. We have a video of it, but um I want to. save that for us and just keep that. private, but basically. what I will share is that I thought we. had a shoot that day. and I had hair and makeup and I was. doing my regular day. I get in the car.

and I'm thinking to myself, where are we. going? Cuz at this point I feel like I. know a lot of the studios that I go to. And I just started getting a little. frustrated cuz I was like, this seems. far, right? And I was just talking to. just me and my security and he's. laughing cuz he's just like, oh, it's. just, you know, I don't know, it's a new. space. So I was like, okay. We get out. I just I walk in. and all of a sudden I see no one's in. the room and I just look at my.

assistant and she just shuts the door. and I was like. uh, but I like kind of walked on to, you. know, the area that he had set up and. um, you know, I think you envision all. the things that you would do and say. when someone asks you, but it is actually the craziest feeling. It was really special. He. he said the sweetest things, but I also. was so shocked that it it just felt.

unreal for a long time and I don't know, I've always dreamed of that moment and. he couldn't have made it more perfect. and. yeah, it was one of the best days of my. life, for sure. I wasn't nervous until. one second before. I was so not nervous. I was doing work until one second. before. I was approving masters for an. album that was coming out that night and. then. right when it happened, right when it. was about to happen, I said, oh, what the am I.

going to say? And I'm so good with words. usually. I can't remember anything. If. we didn't have a video of it, I wouldn't. have even remember what I said. But you. know, I had known I was going to propose. to her for so long. and you know, I never cared about. marriage. It wasn't a thing in my head. She cared about it so much, so I said, well, now I care about it cuz she cares. about it. And I found myself not even. thinking it was going to be a big deal. till I was there. And then I said, "Holy.

I'm getting married now." And in. the moments leading up to it, it's not. really real until it's real. Mhm. I. remember it was so special for me. because it was special for her. And then. it was Yeah, she said, "The two times. you said that were the best things in. your life were that and then when I got. you Whataburger." Yeah. What's this? I. want to know about this. Whataburger is. a restaurant chain that I'm not sure. where they are, but they're not in.

California and they're not in New York, and I love. this chain so much cuz there's a million. in Texas where I'm from. And I love the. biscuits, Texas toast, and gravy. It's. so good. And we don't have that. And for. Valentine's Day, he surprised me. And. this was it. This is all we really did. I was on the phone and he comes in with.

Whataburger. And I literally look at him. like I'm freaking out. And he had. someone Apparently, they opened up in. Vegas. And while we were talking, someone drove, kept it warm, and then. brought. No, didn't keep it warm. I So, I what I. read it? I did was I got all the parts to it and. talked to the people there and figured. out how I could reheat it the best way. and I was reheating in all different. ways, putting it together, and then. Yeah, brought it to her. I because to. me, someone like Sal could have anything.

in the world. The best thing you could. do, and she said it right after. She. said, right when I gave it to her, she. said, "I can't believe you listened and. remembered my order and remembered all. these things in such an easy way, and. then you just did it." She said, "That's. what makes this gift so special is that. you actually like listened to the. things, and it goes such a long way.". And I did say that my two favorite. moments are the proposal and my burger.

I was just think I was just So far, he's. done wonderful things. That's brilliant. thinking something so crazy. Did you know. we were born within 10 minutes from each. other, do you. Yeah. Really? Yeah. On the same day? No, no, no. Uh place. Oh, right near her. born in Texas. Yeah, I was born right near her. Like. 10, 15 minutes away. And you never met. in Texas ever, that. No. No, he can't find. I don't claim Texas. No, I was born in. Texas, but I grew up in Virginia. I claim Texas. She claims Texas. Got it. Got it. Yeah. What do you Do you.

remember your proposal? Of course I. remember my proposal. What did you do? It was It was very uh. I would say I was definitely impacted by. lots of social media trends, for sure. I. In my my first chapter of my second. book, which is all about love, I talk. about how I would redo my proposal. because And you didn't like it? Not that I didn't like it. It was. perfect for the time, but it so wasn't. us. No, it wasn't It wasn't. So, I'll tell you. It's embarrassing,

but I'll I'll tell it. I'll tell it. So, we were walking down one of our favorite. walking paths on the bank of the Thames. in London. Yeah. And we're walking down I told Roddy that. we were going to a dinner with my. family, and it was in a nice place. So, she dressed up and everything. And we come out, and then this random. guy out of nowhere walks out with a. bouquet of flowers, a massive one. He. hands it to her. And then I had an a. cappella group sing Bruno Mars. And it. was really sweet. They were great. They. were very talented. Uh and then I got. down on a one knee, and then I asked her.

to marry me, and thankfully I was crying. the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thankfully, she said. yes. But I tell that story to say it. could have been anyone's proposal. Yeah, yeah. And I had food brought in. from her favorite restaurant, but by the. time it got there it was cold, and it. was I didn't I didn't do what you did, Benny, so I messed up. And then when we. walked around the corner, there was a. white horse-drawn carriage that took us. around the city. I'm dying. But then, when we got So then we were. going back to her parents on the train. to tell her parents what had happened,

and I told them I was proposing that. night. But we were going to hers, and. when we got to her house, and her. parents opened the door, and they looked at her, and they were. like, "What did he do to you?". Because she had hives all over her face, because I didn't know she was allergic. to horses, and she didn't know either. And so that was the night we figured out. that she was allergic to horses. so that story reminded me that I did. know her, but I didn't. Yeah. And you. know, we've been together. who would have thought? It's my god. Yeah, I was trying. I was trying really.

hard. No, it's so. But but it's one of the We've been. together for 12 years, and married for. nine, so we're doing all right. But I. look back on it, and I look at how much. of my life was just impacted by the. world of love. And now knowing my wife as deeply as I. do, I would do it completely. differently. So I'm trying to convince. her to renew our vows on our 10 years of. marriage. And And also because our. friends have changed. Like, we got. married nearly 10 years ago now. Yeah. We've moved countries. new life. Yeah, so much has changed, and. so I'm like, the people I want to.

celebrate my Did you even have the. podcast then? No, no, no, nothing. No, no, no. I didn't have a social media. have the podcast? Podcast is 6 years. old. Yeah, the And wasn't she on like. your first ever episode? She was my. first episode. Yeah, my wife was my. first episode. Yeah, yeah, for sure. sweet. But yeah, we'd do it again, and I think. it's a great reminder of just how much. we evolve and mature in relationships, and how it's okay to look back and go, "Hey, like, you know, It's a great story. Yeah, it's a fun story. It's a fun. story. But um but yeah, no, I'm so happy. to hear about how beautiful this. proposal was. You nailed it, Benny. You.

just, you know, No, we just You're. You're the man. I mean, it's it's it's. beautiful to hear. And And I mean, last. time we were together, Benny, you talked. about wedding planning. How's that. going? We have not even begun. Um, because I think for right now, there's just so much going on. I have to. go and shoot a series for a while, and I. don't know, we'll just see. We're not in. any rush, and I'm excited to see what. happens. say, "Yes.". I don't even care about the next one. No, it's No, but like we're we're.

honestly we're so We've been doing so. much stuff we haven't even gotten to. really just like. bask in the glory. So, it's like I think. we're looking forward to doing that in. New York a little bit, and What does. that look like for both of you? Just you. two spending time together? Yeah, he's very good at at like. organizing and planning, and I'm very. visual, so I'm like, "This is what I. like, and this, and this." And then he. figures out how to. It'll be whatever. She's already told me. the types of things she likes and wants. for a wedding, and.

It'll be fun. I love it. You both. obviously. got back into the. studio together, recorded an amazing album. I got to. listen to bits of it. It was It was a It. was a interesting process. I'll tell you. about that offline. But I got to listen. to it, and what I loved was I was. surprised. I I thought it was going to. be about your relationship, but it sounded that it was about a. history of your life, Selena. It felt. like. Yes. a history of love. But the interesting. part is it actually has multiple.

different stories. Yeah. Some of the. songs are actually about, you know, his. past relationships. So, I think that it. was really special because we were able. to talk about those kind of emotions and. feelings, and not a lot of people maybe. feel that comfortable doing that with a. partner, but. I don't know, we told each other all. kinds of things like I would if I was in. a session with someone I trusted, and so.

yeah, you'd be surprised. I mean, of. course it's not all about. you know, rainbows and sunshine, but. it's it's real and I and I think these. are all feelings people have felt before. and that's what we really wanted is. people to connect to the music whether. you know, you like it or not. We're just. stoked that we got to make an album that. we're proud. Yeah, it's beautiful. I. feel like the thing that's so cool about. it is. I've been fortunate enough. to make a lot of songs in my day.

And. people come up to me all the time and. they say. this song changed my life because. I would you know, I was going through. the same thing. Sometimes it is what I. wrote about and sometimes they think the. meaning is nothing of what I wrote. about, but that's the best part about. music that it hits you. It's like music. is one of the senses like food. It's. like like there's certain things, certain smells, certain songs. They. bring you back to a time immediately. Okay, like you're immediately. transported. And it's so cool that.

everybody can be listening to the same. song and have a completely different. relationship with it. And I feel like. that's so cool. What was it like going from working. together that first time to this time? Like what was different. Um what was different is I never allowed. him in the room. I can kiss her now. And I just I like to record alone. What's really different is. I feel like we got to talk about stuff. that you would never talk about as an. artist if it wasn't with her partner.

being next to her. And honestly, I would. take out I would just write everything. she said. Sometimes she'd wake up from a. dream and she's like, I have this. terrible dream and this is what it was. and blah blah blah. I write it down, then it becomes a song. Wow. It was so cool. being able to. I don't know. It was like therapy. Well, you were saying to me when we spoke on. the phone, I think it was last week, you. were saying that there was just it was. like a safe space to be so open. could say whatever the you want. There's.

certain things you wouldn't be able to. say if you were if I was a "Hey babe, like I just want to She'd be like, "What. the talking about?" But if But if. somehow like when I'm playing chords. while we're singing it, it's like, "Oh, okay." That's a great story. Yeah, and you can just talk about things. and you're more open It's like a therapy. session. It's like it's a safe place and. like. it was cool to learn things about her. that I don't know if I would have. learned. ever or as soon as I did. Mhm. Did it. bring you closer while you were making. the album? Like, what was it like being. together but then making an album.

together and being together? Absolutely. We were able to share things. with each other and he would listen to. my doubts and he would give me great. notes and it was never criticizing. It. was always coming from a really gentle. place and I do. I think it absolutely. has brought us closer, but that's also. time and spending it with him. It's. Yeah, also we got to spend so much more. time together. Yeah. Like cuz like our. work days got to blend a little. Yeah.

It's a great excuse to spend time. together. Yeah, I'm always trying to. find ways to work more with my wife. Yeah. I'm just trying to come up with. new excuses. I know that's all I want to do. Yeah. Yeah, that's how I would do it too. And. you had some amazing collabs as well on. the album. I mean, obviously you've. launched a song with Grace and Grace is. amazing. Oh my god. I'm so happy that she's. She was just such a doll and so. talented. You've known her, so I I've. known her since she was like 13, but I. love her. Did you interview her yet? No, no, I.

haven't yet. Yeah. You've been a fan for. a while? I've known her since she was. 14. Wow. So, to see where I put her on. an album like 5 years ago. So like to. see where she's gone is so cool. And you. know, I'm always one who like loves new. talent, new artist and she's great. She. has such a great point of view. Her writing comes from such a good place. and it's just like. I love people where it feels like. they're like and Selena does it too. where it feels like they're just kind of. talking to you and then you're like, "Oh. wait, I'm listening to a song." But.

like, "What? What?" Yeah. You know? Yeah, it's just you know, making the. album with her, I felt like it taught. me. I was just like. we're really good at communicating with. each other and saying like and setting. boundaries and saying when we like. something, when we don't like something. Yeah, how do you do that when you're in. a relationship and you're like, "Ah, I. just don't like the sound of that." Like. that that's just. We're both we I think it comes down to. ego and we both don't really have that. So, if we disagree on something, it's. like, "Okay, agree to disagree." Like. that's fine. But yeah, of course, if I.

say, "I don't know if I like that." He. he most of the time doesn't even. question it and just just really. receptive to my. Yeah, we just don't have any ego, so it. doesn't matter. He could say, "No, I. don't like it." And I'd be like, "Okay.". That's amazing. What are you hoping that. Is there a song in there that you're. really excited for fans to hear or. anything specific? I think I want people. to to hear the whole body of work and. like I don't really think about music. like that. I make it for myself and if. and luckily people happen to like some.

of it and we started this thing in our. room and we recorded the whole album in. the house. and with our friends. That's so intimate. That's Have you ever. done that before? Not like this. No, yeah. No. Yeah. No. And it was like it. kind of blurred. reality a little. It was the most fun I. ever had and I just like wanted. a piece. of music. to be able to I don't know, one day like. show our kids and be like, "Look at. this." Like look at this thing Mommy and.

Daddy made. That's pretty amazing. and it like I can't believe it. Like. it's so cool to me. Yeah. I don't care what happens with it. I was. just like so excited to do. this with the person I love and freeze a. moment in time in a way that not a lot. of people have the ability to do. And. like we had. we were lucky enough to do that. Yeah. Selena, you mentioned earlier always. wanting to be a mom and then you just. mentioned kids. Is that are you both. like big family, big lots of kids kind.

of. Yeah. I've been I don't know what will. happen obviously, but I I I love. children. I mean I have an 11-year-old. sister that I. absolutely adore and. I've been still doing Wizards this this. far along because I love children. I. love making them laugh. They're just so. sweet. So absolutely when that day. comes, I'm so excited for it. Yeah. It's funny. We'll be at We'll be. at like a gathering or a party.

And not many people know this, but like. Selena's like the ultimate level of shy. Like the ultimate ultimate ultimate. level of shy. Like couldn't. know a lot of people. Sometimes I get. checked. Couldn't be more of like an introvert. shy, which is crazy cuz she's the. biggest star in the world and it's like. I'm not. I hate it. When she walks into. a room To him. her main Yeah, her main. goal is to like disappear into the. crowd. That's like her Her goal is to. just like everyone is is My mom is very. similar Her and my mom are very similar.

in their You know, they're never going. to If there's a crowd of people, they're. never going to like be like how like me. or probably you would do. We're like. Like we're talk They're not going to do. that. They're like wait and say like one. thing throughout the night that winds up. being like the most poignant or funny. thing of the night. But like I'm going. to like have diarrhea of the mouth. talking to everyone. And whenever. there's kids at a place, it's the only. time I see her. do that. She immediately goes to the. kids and like has these conversations. for like hours with the kids and taking.

care with the kids. And I think it's. also I think it probably also has to do. with like. when you started doing this, you were a. kid and that was your way to connect to. people and I feel like you still feel. like you have that obligation to connect. with like young kids cuz you made some. you shaped so many young people's lives, whether it was Barney or there was. Wizards, and I feel like you're still. finding your way to do that. And it it's. so crazy just to see. you know, cuz she's transcended into so. many different categories. It's so hard.

to call her like, you know, a pop star, this, an actress, or that. You know, you. don't know what to call her. She's just. so much of a multi-hyphenate. Yeah. Just. your name. You know, you notice it. sometimes when we see people cuz. you'll see a little girl come up to her. cry. Then you'll see her older sister that's. like 20. Then you'll see the mother, and. then the grandmother. So like it's like. she's hitting all these boxes in. people's lives and touching so many. people. And you know, she's such a.

hermit that she doesn't even realize it. all the time. And you know, I'm always. reminding her of like what she's doing. and how special it is and how she's. always been so, you know, outspoken. She'll always say what what's. on her mind and is always, you know, just I just I just feel like she's. there's not a lot of people who are like. just absolutely authentically. themselves. And like that's what draws. me towards her more than anything else.

She's always going to tell you how she's. feeling. She's always going to be. herself. She's never going to try to be. somebody else. Well said. I don't even know what to. say. Oh, Benny and Selena, I'm so. grateful to you both for just opening. your hearts, being so. Only with you. Huh? Only with you. Yeah, I can't believe you got her to say some. of this stuff. She'd never say. I'm very, very. She'd never say any of this. Is there. anything you didn't say that I that you. wanted to say or anything? No. No. No, I mean I mean that in a in a genuine.

way. am thinking. I I just I'm just really. very. that people like you exist because you. you bring so much joy to people and also. understanding, you know, so many different ways of life. and navigating that and I think you're a. great example. So, I just would like to. say thank you. I trust you with that. information and it's always a pleasure. to be with you. So, thanks for having.

us. No, you're both you're both just so. special. You've always been. I've always said Selena for years that, you know, no matter and those moments. where I could tell you were shy or. wanting to disappear but always being so. gracious and kind to me and my wife. whenever we were together and making us. feel comfortable even if you felt. uncomfortable and Benny, you know, just. the wonderful conversations we've had. over the last couple of years and. I feel like we've done everything to. we've talked about so many different. things and we are both kind of like. that, you know, back and forth back and.

forth kind of people. Uh but you've both. done the final five before on the show. So, we wanted to do something different. with you both. Okay. We wanted to play a little. couple's game. Oh. So, I'm going to hand. you. Oh my god. these boards. Oh, I know. exactly what this is. So, take one each. They're fun fun questions. Fun. questions. Okay. Okay. I'm not going to take what. you just told me and turn it around. So, um so, we're going to do where we're going to. I'm going to ask you questions. You both. have to write something down and then. we'll reveal. So, don't look at each. other's answers. Question number one.

If Benny would cook you anything in the. world, Selena, what would he choose to. cook for you? So, both of you can write. down. So, Benny, if you're going to cook. anything for Selena, what would it be? Ooh. Like what do I think she wants the most? Yeah. Ooh. Cuz there's a few. four or five things. I think I know what. she's thinking. Uh It's a hard question. It's a hard question. I think I know it. Should I write down. three? No. No. For anyone who doesn't. know, Benny is an insane connoisseur of.

food. Very good. I I know. Okay. I don't think it's going to be the same. thing. It's okay. I mean you just That's okay. There's 3 2. 1. corn I did steak. I thought you were. going to say. that's what I wrote. That's what you Oh, you did? Yes, but I loved he makes this corn dip. that I can just eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Well, that's a good thing that there's. more than one thing. There's a lot. That's a good thing. Yeah, that's. amazing. I love it. All right. Selina, if you would cook anything for Benny, what would you choose to cook?

Okay. All right. Oh my gosh. What would I do? Wait, is it not what I think you're. going to say? I think you're going to say this. Uh. Because I like I got mine. Uh. You got it Benny already? Yeah, I think. so. Okay. Okay. 3 2 1. Uh corn corn corn Okay, very good. corn.

Very. I said order a pizza. You did good. This. is great. Okay. This one's This one's a. bit more. I'm intrigued to see what comes out of. this. It's not It's not about how well. you know each other. It's an interesting. one. If your partner could master any. skill instantly, what would it be? Selina's very confident. Everyone who's. listening and not watching It's like. every time I ask a question and her pen. hits the. hits the.

board immediately. All right. What do we have? 3 2 1. Everything. It's annoying. To be able to. sleep through the night. Yeah. That's what she would want. That's what. she would want. Yeah. super bad No. I. thought it was saying If you could. master a skill Master a skill. Yes. I'm. sorry. He'll put on a video game. He. will be well. He'll play basketball. He. does well. He'll do like. throw tolls and then he'll do like all.

this stuff. I feel like this is the. skill she'd want to master. To be able. to sleep through the night. That's a. real one. That's a lot of people are. struggling with. I cannot sleep. We've done a lot of episodes on sleep. because that's a real challenge for a. lot of people. Yeah, it's hard. Especially as you get older, you wake up. in the middle of the night and yeah, not. fun. All right, okay. Okay. What's your partner's hidden talent that. no one knows about? Okay. If I'm going to I'm going to take this. to Benny's level.

What's her hidden talent? I don't even know if I spelled that. right. That's okay. There's no spell. check. Oh, what's her hidden talent? I don't really have one, I don't think. They're all too public. Oh, oh, oh, I. know it. I know it. This is crazy. This is funny. I'm just loving the honesty, guys. You. guys are really going there. It's. beautiful. We really like to be honest. Yeah, no,

but it's it's so. it's refreshing. Okay. Okay. Three, two, one. Listen. Hard on cue. Uh she knows every episode of Friends by. heart. You and Roddy both. She knows she. knows all of the the the lines. Every. line. I could name what episode did this. happen and I could tell you what season. Yeah. Wow. It's crazy.

That's I never even watched the show one. time before her. Yeah, same as me and. Roddy. I didn't know she Roddy knows it. really well and I'm like, I need to. catch up. All right, that was good. I. like that. What's both of yours perfect. date night? Mhm. Um how real am I allowed to be? Uh just. don't be like I'm the worst at not to do. anything. No, no, no, no. Um. Old married couple, I love it. Her idea. of a perfect date night is like.

Oh, I have so many, but this one's just. a stone and. Oh, Benny's Benny's planning the date. night in his head right now. Yes, yeah. Um. Men's really simple. I never write. It's so weird. Yeah, it's scary, isn't it? texting. You both got good handwriting for people. who don't write there. We're definitely not saying the same. thing. Let's see what you got.

His is going to be nice so nice and. romantic and mine is just. You guys literally remind me of me and. Rothy with the. Yeah, it's so funny. It's All right, 3 2. 1. Reveal. What's her say? Hot tub, Benny's food on a couch. Romantic dinner with some small. thoughtful gesture and something I can't. write. I was trying to think of you. sweet. I like I like both the answers. And you're right. They're both good date nights.

All right. What is Benny like on a. flight? Cuz Benny notoriously does not. like to. I know? She's never seen me on a flight. never done Yeah. He does not fly. Till the Oh, I thought I thought you. told me you must have done it once. I. thought you were going to say. it, but not since we've been dating. Wow. Yeah, so that's a blank. Oh, wow. I. didn't know that. That that one. Okay, give us your What do you think Benny. will be like on a flight? I don't even. know if I want to know because I would. be so worried about him.

Yeah. Oh, sorry. Was I supposed to write. that No, no, no, no, that's fine. I'm a. mess. Yeah. No, for sure. It's a real. real phobia of his. I think it's a big fear of his. Yeah, and that's real. It's real. Makes sense. All right, okay, couple more. What's something your partner can do to. make you laugh whenever you're in a. mood? So, even if you're in your worst. mood, what can your partner do or what. does your partner do that will always. make you laugh? Uh. um. So far, Benny and Selena know each other. very well. This is going really well. This is crazy.

I like the commitment from both of you. Extremely competitive. So, uh Benny, as you're writing, how did. you used to get to New York to see. Selena? Would you drive? you mean I'm about to do it now? Oh, yeah. What? You drive? Yeah. to New York? Yeah. I take the boat to Europe. Okay. So, explain that journey to us. My god, it's so long. It's like first you have. to drive to New York and then you get on. a boat for 8 days and you're on the. Titanic. That is amazing. That is real.

commitment. All right, 3 2 1, go for it. Go on, read it, Selena. Okay. It says dance or rap or say a weird fact. that has nothing to do with what we're. talking about. Wait, that's what you're. going to What? That's what you do to. make her laugh. Well, that's what I do. Oh, I did what I do to her to make her. laugh. Oh, no, no, I wanted what the. other person does, too. That's what you. did, Selena, right? That's what Benny. does. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Benny No, because you. rap as well. You're a good rapper, so. Oh, I did what I do to make her laugh. Oh, go on. What did you write down? I. said I hug her and then get on top of.

her and then I do that little funny. laugh. That's true. Um okay, wait. What does. she. does Selena do that can make you laugh. in any mood? whenever she wants, she like uh Selena's. proven to be the better listener right. now, so. Okay, wait. So, No, that was good. What was good? We got. to get an answer. What do you do that. makes me laugh? In any mood, like whenever you're in any. mood, like what can they do? Like Yeah, like Roddy would burst out into song and. dance, like randomly and like she. irrelevant to anything. I think my. existence makes you laugh.

She'll make like a like she does like. this like. little face and where she like puts her. head down and like looks at me and she's. like. I can't even do it, but she'll do that. That'll make me laugh And you'll usually. get on top of me and No, but she. actually This is really funny. When I. try to get somewhat like heated, it's like he can't take me seriously, so. he'll smile and then and then I'll go. from being like. That's true. Yeah,

whenever she starts to get like angry, she's like, "No." And I just I just. laugh at her cuz it's so hard to take. her seriously when she's like that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's. usually how our fights go. Yeah. Roddy hates it cuz whenever she. gets angry, I'm like, "You're so cute.". No, I don't. I don't hear So, what are you talking. about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's. like, "I'm not cute." I love that. Okay, all right. What's the one thing they. can't live without apart from you? So, about your partner. So, Binnie, you're writing about Selena. Selena's.

writing about you. What's one thing the. partner can't apart from you? This This couldn't be easier. Guaranteed. What do you mean? Guaranteed. Easiest answer I could have. ever thought of. That's the best. question you could have ever asked me. I'm 100% right. Uh something you can't. Oh. What? What is it? 3 2 1. Mom. Aw. Space.

heater. That's true. Explain the space heater. Okay, so I um I have a very weird. problem. It's not even a problem. It's just a me. problem. I am a very cold person. Got it. My temperature usually on my. space heater is 90, and I let it go all. over. And if I get hot, I just open the. door and then close it again. It's so. backwards.

weird. Temperatures are hard to Everyone. Everyone's got a different different. vibe, trust me. Our office next door, the team's always arguing over what. temperature the room's at. Some people. want it really cold, some people want it. really hot. We have a system, so it. works. She always wants it hot. I love it. Okay. What's something the other person is. really competitive about? What are you competitive about? I'm really not. a super competitive person. No, I don't. know what she's Tell me what you are.

think I'm Selena's not competitive. Oh, I was going to I was going to say you. are about games, but then you don't care. anymore. Like you're competitive for. like the first 5 minutes. And no, that's true. And then I start to. think, "Ah, it's okay." Yeah, yeah. She's competitive for like 5 minutes. That's true. Okay. I love it. I love it. All right. So, okay, last two questions. Okay. Actually, I'm going to go for the last. one. Because you both are big on this, I've. heard from Benny. What's the other person's most memorable.

gift they got you? That he's given me, right? Yeah. So, the most memorable she gave me. Correct. Okay. Oh, there's so many, but um. Yeah, the one There's no right answer. I know mine right off the bat. This is just the only one. that I can think of, but there's so. many. Yeah. Oh, sorry. It was so bad. You saw his? No, I didn't. I just saw. like a word.

I love the commitment, Selena. I'm so. impressed. It's amazing. You're the best. That's like All right. 3 2 1, who's going to All right, talk. about it. Okay. Oh, that was a good one. Okay, explain. Go ahead. This one is a picture from the. set of Will & Grace. I thought it was. extremely thoughtful because that's one. of my favorite shows, and you can see it. in the background of almost all the. episodes. No, no, I got her an actual piece of art. that's in Will & Grace off from the set. Yeah, I got. I I the guy my my friend's brother wrote.

it, and I got her for one of her. birthday presents, I got her an actual. painting that's hung up in Will & Grace, and. when I gave it to her, the day I gave it. to her, she was watching Will & Grace. and was on the TV. It was so cool. That's That's a great gift. And mine's a framed picture. of our first text where we fell in love. Like the first one where we decided we. were going to go out on that date. She. framed it and like made this like cute.

She like made like like did all these. designs on. macaroni and like glitter. It was so cute. I love that. That's a. great gift. Guys, you guys That was one. of them. amazing. Selena and Benny, you. are. truly two of the most special people. I'm so glad you found each other. Thank. you. I am always rooting for you guys. I'm forever in your corner in every. possible way. I love you both deeply and. know that I'm always rooting for your. love. And so Thank you so much. I'm. genuinely so grateful for you. Hey, hey, do you want me to get you out of these.

boards? Are you writing more? What are. you writing? Come on, I expected a heart or like a. hug or some sort of emoji. I'm going to. buy Now I know what I'm getting you for. your birthday. He's obsessed with these. things. Thank you. I love it. You can. take them home. Well, we love you. Thank. you for having us. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I hope that allowed. you to share everything you wanted to. say. It felt so good. Thank you. I love it. Easy. We did it. Thanks, guys. You guys are so. fun. How was that? If you love this episode,

you will really enjoy my episode with. Selena Gomez on befriending your inner. critic and how to speak to yourself with. more compassion. My fears are only going. to continue to show me what I'm capable. of. The more that I face my fears, the. more that I feel I'm gaining strength, I'm gaining wisdom, and I just want to. keep doing that.