The KEY TO SUCCESS Comes From DOING THIS Before You're READY! | Marie Forleo & Jay Shetty

Now, starting before you're ready. doesn't mean that you're going to throw. your life into chaos. But, I think for. anyone listening who feels stuck and you. We all have felt that, right? We were. just like. Like, I really want to do it. Start. before you're ready will kick-start you. into action. And action really is the. antidote to fear. And today's guest is going to help you. do just that. Now, I've been following. her work for a long, long time. So, for. me, this is a huge privilege. I'm so. happy to be sitting in front of her, and. you're about to see who that is. And I.

just feel so happy because I've seen her. interview some incredible minds. I've. seen her just build this beautiful show. And to be able to interview her today. about how that all came about and all. the other stories around it is a huge. honor for me. She's a New York Times. best-selling author. She's the founder. of The B School and the host of Marie. TV. And today's guest is none other than. Marie Forleo. Marie, thank you for being. here. Oh, I'm so excited, Jay. I feel like. this has been like in the cosmic making. for a very long time. It definitely has. And the reason why I.

wanted to reach out to Marie to do this. is her new book is out on September. 10th. It's called Everything is. Figureoutable, right? I love that title. I was just telling her outside a moment. ago. I was like, I absolutely love that. title. It's out on September 10th. Hopefully, if you're listening or. watching this, it's around that sort of. time. That's the hope right now. So, you. can go and get the book right now if. you're listening. And Marie, the first. thing I want to ask you about because I. love the title so much. Yes. is what is the hardest thing you've. ever had to figure out? And what gave.

you this confidence in this bold, beautiful title to literally say, "Everything is figureoutable"? Yes. So, I think the way to answer that question. is there's been hard things at different. stages of my life, which I feel like is. true for most of us. You know, there was. actually a time when I was a young. child. I was about 13 years old, and I. didn't live with my parents. So, I was. estranged from them. I was kind of. kicked out of my house, and there were a. few years that things were really. difficult. Um, I was in a an abusive. relationship. Like just everything felt.

like it was crashing in around me. And. so I think at that stage in my life, that was probably one of the hardest. things to overcome. Um, and then, you know, fast forwarding. a little bit, I think most of us. sometimes we find ourselves in college. or university trying to figure out who. we're supposed to be in this world, right? How can we make a living and make. a difference? How are we supposed to fit. into society? I struggled with that for. years and I failed so much before I. finally found my calling, which is an.

extension of what I do now. And then I. think even moving on further, you know, there's been times with my. relationship with Josh. We've been. together 16 years and, you know, no. relationship is easy and it's not all. unicorns and rainbows and, you know, smiley faces. And there's been times. where we were on the brink of losing. each other. And that was devastating to. me cuz he's the love of my life. And. this idea has helped me help us get. ourselves back on track. And so, you. know, I've had other challenges with my.

family. I've had challenges with the. business. I've, you know, self-confidence challenges. So I know. that's kind of a broad poopery of of. things to go through, but those are some. of the kind of things at different. stages of my life that this one idea, this simple little phrase has always. helped me when I feel like nothing is. working. Yeah. And I feel a bit. helpless, it picks me back up and I'm like, nah, I'm going to do this. I'm going to. figure this out no matter how long it.

takes or no matter how many different. areas I need to explore, learn about, test, try until I can overcome. Absolutely. And that's what I love about. it so much is because we're going to. need that thought in our lives again and. again and again and again. It's never. going to be a time when you won't need. that. Yes. And that statement and and you It. it simple idea, but it's not It's deep. It's It's like There's so much to. unpack, and that's what you do so. beautifully in the book. When I was. reading it, I was just like, "It's a. simple idea, but giving someone the.

confidence that it works Yes. is effort, and that's why you've written this book, because it's not easy enough for us to. just keep saying, "Oh, everything's. figureoutable." And we can say that to. ourselves as much as we want, but it. needs to be unpacked, and that's what. you do in the book. So, for one of the. things for me, when I'm reading it, is. when I'm thinking about my life and. thinking about those times when I've. needed this. Yes. And I know for me it's. always been like, "Don't judge the. moment." Like I've always said that to. myself. I've been like, "Don't judge. this moment. Like don't label this. moment. Don't give it a bad name." And.

one of the things you talk about in this. book is that beliefs are sticky. Yes. Right? You talk about these beliefs. being sticky. Talk me through some of. the toughest beliefs that you think you. developed at those times and how you. stop them from being so sticky and why. beliefs are so sticky, too. I think, you. know, beliefs really are like the train. tracks that underpin our lives, that. really decide where we're going to go. and how we're going to get there. But so. many times we don't understand that. that's really what's running the show, right? Some of our kind of deepest, most.

kind of subconscious beliefs about who. we are as human beings, what we're. capable of, what we're not capable of, how we feel about society, men, women, marriage, money, business, you know, all. of these things. We don't often. recognize that it's these deep-rooted. beliefs, often times that we didn't. choose for ourselves. I think one of the. most interesting aspects of beliefs is. you think about us as babies. You know, we kind of pop out and we're pretty. fresh and we're happy. And as we grow. up, we're like little sponges absorbing.

the beliefs of our family, our. caretakers, the media, society, you. know, women are allowed to do X, or if I look. like this, I can only reach that, or, you know, money is bad and evil, or. success means X, Y, or Z. And so, I. think beliefs are sometimes so hidden to. us that we don't recognize that they. could be the thing that are holding us. back. And you know, working and coaching people over the.

last two decades now, I can't even. believe I've been doing this for two. decades, which is amazing. Um here's. what's something that's interesting. Many times in personal development, people feel like you have to kind of. unearth all of your negative and. limiting beliefs, and we all have them. But here's what's awesome about the. notion that everything is figureoutable. I like to describe it almost as the. master key, right? It's like you don't. have to go searching around the corners. of your consciousness to find all those. negative beliefs and fix yourself and. change them. If you absolutely adopt.

this notion that everything is. figureoutable, and I would encourage. people to try it before you deny it. We'll kind of walk down how we can do. that. But it's as though it's the first. domino that you push, and everything. else becomes possible. So, you know, for. example, for me, early on in my career, I had some really negative limiting. beliefs around money. And a lot of my. beliefs around money were formed as a. child. You know, my parents were going. through a divorce. I was about seven or eight years old, and I remember just standing in my.

kitchen, and my mom and dad had just. signed the divorce papers. And so, the. scene was this. My mom was bawling her. eyes out, crying. Her face was red, her. eyes were bloodshot. She was talking to. her mom, who was in Florida at that. time, and she was saying, "I can't. believe I've been this dumb. I have. nothing. I have nothing." And so, the. thing about my parents, you know, all. their fights, it wasn't about. infidelity. It wasn't about necessarily. like substance abuse or anything like. that. It was always about money. My mom.

feeling like there wasn't enough, she. had no control over it. Uh she, you. know, didn't have the kind of power to. direct where it was going. And so, when. they got divorced, I was clear as around. money. So, my mom hung up that phone. with her mom. She actually turned to me. and she bent down so she was my height. She took me by the shoulders and she. shook me and she said, "Marie, don't. ever be stupid like I was. Don't ever. give anyone control over your money. Don't ever give everything away to a.

man. I need you to grow up and be. independent and take care of yourself. Look at me, I have nothing right now. Don't be stupid like I was." And I got. to tell you, Jay, like as an 8-year-old, right? You get imprinted. And I just. stood there and I was like, So, I formed these beliefs as a young. child that, you know, giving anyone. control over your money was like a. really bad idea. I also formed the. belief that giving a man control over. your money not a good thing to do. And those beliefs, I had to wrestle with.

them early on in my adult life. I. remember being deep in debt. I just had. all of these kind of twisted conflicted. notions around myself and money and. worth. And so, the process of using this. idea everything is figureoutable, I used. it then to go, "You know what? I can. figure money out. I can use this as a. tool to heal myself and to heal other. people and to help others not have. suffering in their lives." So, you know, everything is figureoutable really can. be that master key that helps people.

wipe through anything that holds them. back. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for. sharing that as well so openly. I think. so many of us, when I was listening to. you and I'm hoping everyone who's. listening or watching right now was. doing the same. When you're hearing. Marie describe what she was going. through as a child, put yourself back in. that position, too. Like go through that. visualization with her because for me, I. was sitting back and thinking, "Oh yeah, what was I going through at 8 years old. that has created a belief in my mind?". And it's so funny you brought up the. money one because I can definitely. identify with that. And I grew up in a.

home where we always said we just have. enough. Like we always have just enough. So, So whole adult life I grew up. believing that I only needed to have. just enough, which always meant that we. were always like just above having. nothing. So we never had a lot and we. never had nothing, but we had just above. nothing. And that became my. talking point. So whenever someone would. say to me like, "How much money do you. want to make?" I'd be like, "Yeah, just. enough." Like that would literally be. like how I'd speak about it. And then. when I grew up and started to reflect on.

wanting to have a family and wanting to. serve the world and even wanting to. create content that I really believed. in. And wanting to serve the world in. ways that I really valued. And I started. to think, I was like, "Wow, if I have. just enough, then I can't I can only. help the world just enough.". That's right. Right? That's right. And so getting back to. your point about our beliefs, it's. sometimes we don't even understand or. realize how much they're driving us. until you kind of pause and and. recognize that they are running the. show, right? So we have a simple formula.

in the book. Our beliefs create our. thoughts, and our thoughts create our feelings, and our feelings create our behavior, and our behavior creates our results. And so if you want anything to change on. the results level, don't just go to the. behaviors or the feelings or even the. thoughts. We need to go deeper to our. beliefs cuz if we can handle that, everything changes. Absolutely and so. well put. I can couldn't agree with you. more because we're always messing around. that stuff at the end. Yeah. Like I want to change my results or I. want to change how I feel.

Yes. But then we never talk about the. beliefs that. underlie them all. Absolutely. And and. now so this is also a belief. Like. everything is figureoutable. Yes. is like you're saying the master. key belief in one sense of like. believing that everything's. figureoutable. You you alluded to it. earlier. When someone hears that and go, "Marie, it's easy for some to say. Come. on, it's easy for you to say now that. things have worked out or. wait a minute. You know, I was at a. conference recently and someone stood up. and asked me a question. They were just.

like, "How does this apply to the kid. starving in Africa, right?" Like they. they they said that to me. And my. response to them actually was like, "Well, if I was speaking to kids who are. starving in Africa, I wouldn't be saying. what I'm saying to you." I was like, "This is to you. This is audience. specific." Right? My advice that I was. giving, I was like, "I know who's in my. audience. If I was speaking to kids. starving in Africa, I'd be giving them. something else.". That was appropriate. Appropriate and relevant and accessible. to them at that point. So, but for us, for everyone who's listening and. watching right now, tell us if someone's doubting you, if.

someone and and I know you know this, but someone's doubting you, someone's. looking at you going, "Marie, that's. Easy for you to say. Easy for you to say, or that's a nice. thought. Yes. But my position right now, like the. situation I'm in, it's so bad, like you. have no idea. That's right. Okay, so I want to dive. into this and peel it back in a couple. of layers because it's so important. So, number one, I am very clear that I have. won what Warren Buffett has coined the. phrase as the ovarian lottery, right? I'm a white woman in the United States. By no effort of my own, I was born into.

a family that gave me an education, put. a roof over my head, I had running. water, I had electricity, all of those. things. There are millions, if not up to. a billion people that don't have those. same privileges or access to some of. those resources. So, I absolutely get. that. That's why it was imperative for. me throughout the book to weave in. stories far diverse from my own. So, folks from the developing world, folks. throughout history that don't look like. me, that did not grow up where I grew.

up, with the same types of resources and. privileges and advantages. And they. embody this spirit, this notion that all. of us have this innate power and wisdom. within ourselves. And when that awakens, what we are capable of as humans is. extraordinary. So, we have that all over. the book. We also have dozens and dozens. and dozens of reader stories, right? So, folks that haven't won Nobel Peace. Prizes or that haven't done these.

extraordinary things. I've been talking. about this idea for two decades. You. know, here's a story. Yeah, I was going to ask you to tell me. a couple because I was. I Absolutely. And then I want to go to. the rules because a an 8-year-old. actually challenged me when I was first. writing this book and it came up with. something brilliant. So, let me tell the. story of Jen. You know, a lot of folks. are like, "Well, yeah, everything is. figureoutable if you want to build a. business or get your health back online. or perhaps save a relationship." But, what if I'm facing something difficult. and hard that isn't?

So, woman named Jen wrote to us and I. had first shared this idea with the. world in a really public way, um, on. Oprah's stage. So, she was doing a. SuperSoul one-day event. She had asked. me to speak in it and the title of my. talk was everything is figureoutable. So, Oprah then put that talk online. It's on her podcast. And so, folks heard. it that I'd never met before. So, woman named Jen wrote to us and. said, "Hey Marie, thank you so much for. your talk. This lesson that everything. is figureoutable is something my mom, who I love so much, had been trying to.

teach me forever, but I kind of really. heard it from you. And then I shared the. talk with my mom and she loved it, too. But, then everything changed. My mom, who is the most important person in my. life, was diagnosed with pancreatic. cancer. And suddenly, nothing seemed. figureoutable. And she said, "But, then I actually took. a walk and I looked at it from a. different perspective and realized it. was. For example, I could find my mom nursing.

care that could go and attend to her. even though she lived in this rural. area. Number two, I could figure out how. to get my mom foods that she could. actually tolerate. Number three, I got. medical equipment so that my mom could. spend her last days and in fact, her. last five weeks on this planet. where she wanted to be, which is in her. home. And she said, "I can tell you without. reservation that yes, everything is. figureoutable. And thank you so much for.

sharing this idea because it made a. difference to two women on the other. side of the world.". And so, we have other stories of folks. who have used this idea facing. addiction, facing loss, death, grief, diagnosis that are life-changing in. terms of how long they will be on this. planet and how they will exist on this. planet. So, those are all embedded in. there. So, I just want to share that. Another frame, I invite people to try it before you.

deny it. Like, I do not claim to have. all the answers, nor do I think this. book has all the answers, but within it. you will find a set of tools and. practices and frameworks to find or. create your own. Yes. And finally, I'll. share the story about the 8-year-old. So, I was telling a friend when I was. first writing this book, we were like. all having a brunch on a Sunday, and my. friend's son. asked me, "Well, what's your book. about?" And I said, "Everything is. figureoutable." And he's like, "No, it's. not." And I was like, "Awesome, tell me. more." And he said, "Well, you know, I.

can't grow working human wings out of my. back." And I was like, "That's very. true. You can't do that yet." I said, "But we humans can indeed fly." And he. was like, "Oh, yeah, that's right." He's like, "Well, you know, I can't get my dog who. died when I was two, we can't get him. to, you know, be back alive." And I was. like, some Pet Sematary right. there. But, um I said, "You know what? That's true." I said, "But scientists. are working on cryogenics, and there's. people who have cloned dogs." He was. like, "Oh, yeah, that's right." I said, "Look, just because something.

scientifically hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean it's impossible." There's. an amazing book called The Beginning of. Infinity by a quantum theorist named. David Deutsch, and he has this. incredible quote which says, "Everything. that is not forbidden by the laws of. nature is achievable given the right. knowledge. So, I would invite everyone. listening, you know, you don't have to. take a quantum theorist's word for it or. my word, just experiment with this. Live. this idea and see if it doesn't help you.

become more capable and courageous and. resilient and persistent in the face of. whatever problem you're looking to. unpack or whatever dream you're working. to achieve. Yeah, I love that and and. try it before you deny it. Sure, like. with everything, right? Like even if I. told you when you came in they're like, "Oh, we have this juice and it's the. best juice in the world." Yes. And you. could just deny and be like, "No, I I. have the best juice in the world at. home." And and it's something as basic.

as that. Like we can't even do it to do. with food and juice, what to speak of. wisdom and knowledge and and ideas. So, yeah, anyone who's listening and. watching, I highly recommend that you. try this out the way Marie's saying it. And and what Marie's done and what she's. so beautifully articulating is she's. done the research to prove to us that. this works and she's giving you the. process to practice it. Right? That's. what the book's doing. It's proving to. you all the through these stories and. it's giving you the practice. Go on, you. And I, you know, I'm definitely not. sitting here going like, "I have. everything figured out and I'm just, you.

know what I mean, hanging out going. like, it's all done." No, I use this. every single day. I use this when like I. run a company and there's 30 people and. you know, things crash, someone quits, someone gets sick. I am using this. actively every single day of my life and. it's what helps me continue to engage. with a sense of curiosity Yeah. and. courage and a fearlessness. to walk into the inherent groundlessness. of reality. Like let's just be real. about this. There's so much in our lives.

that we cannot control, right? And for. someone who will raise her hand to being. like, "I like to be in control. I like. to have those plans. I like to know. what's coming up.". The nature of reality is chaos. Yes. And. the nature of reality is groundlessness, which could evoke a lot of fear Mhm. or. it could evoke a lot of curiosity. Mhm. And so what I also like about this. notion, if everything is figureoutable, you don't have to grasp. onto anything but your own innate wisdom.

and capability to show up and. dynamically be appropriate to what. occurs in this moment. Yeah, absolutely. One of the things I. really wanted to ask you, because this. is something I'm fascinated by, is. when someone's living through that. process of. the belief that. my life and everything that happens to. me is the worst. Yeah. Right? And and I hear that a lot, you see it a lot on social media, you. see it a lot on people's profiles where.

people are just like, I'm going through. the worst day, my life's And we have. this belief that we're victims and we. have this belief so strongly that I'm. going through the worst. How do you start rewiring that from your. perspective? Like, how do you start the. process of getting out of it? Yeah, you know, it's interesting and I. think all of us have to, you know, we. need to give ourselves permission to. have those bad days cuz we all have. them, you know, people often ask me, they're like, you know, you seem so. confident all the time and you seem like. you have everything together and I'm. like, well, you don't see me when I'm. struggling. Like, you know, I'm like on.

the phone with a friend going like, I. don't know if this is any good or I. don't know if X, Y, and Z is working or, you know, kind of those things that we. just do in in private, quite frankly. Mhm. So I think knowing that all of us. have bad days and you can be like, oh, this is the worst. But to answer your. question, I think it's understanding. that we have the power to assign any. situation either an empowering meaning. or a disempowering meaning. So let's. take a really simple example, right? So. we're not going to get too heavy, we're. going to do it just right on the surface.

because sometimes that's easier to see, like the juice example. Totally. So. let's say I am a first-time writer and. I've sent out my manuscript and I got. rejected again. I can take that very neutral fact and. assign a meaning or a story to it that. says, "Well, I'm a failure. No one likes my and. I should just give up, and I should stop. being a writer, clearly, because here's. another rejection letter." So, that is. what I would categorize as a. disempowering meaning. You're not going.

to feel good. You're probably not going. to take a productive, effective action. from that state of mind, and you may not. ever reach your ultimate dream of being. perhaps a published writer. You could choose to assign that same. neutral fact an empowering meaning, which could be, and we can come up with. tons of them. Maybe it's like, "You know. what? Every rejection means I'm one step. closer to success because I'm actually. getting my work out there, and if I'm. getting my work out there, that means. that I could possibly be published." You.

could assign an empowering meaning like. this. "That particular article or story. wasn't right for that publisher. They're not rejecting me, they're. rejecting the work. Let me go find. another publisher that might be aligned. with this particular story." You could. also make it mean something like this. You could say, "You know what? I. remember that J.K. Rowling got rejected. 12 times, and I think Stephen King's. Carrie got rejected like 30 times. I. just need to keep going and build up. even more rejections." And this isn't.

about being Pollyanna. It's. understanding the power that we have of. perception and our ability to assign a. meaning to any fact that presents itself. to us. And I think there's something. interesting. There's this great quote, "Life is 10% what happens to me and 90%. how I react to it." Chuck Swindoll, right? Pastor. I love that because there are going to. be hard truths in all of our lives, and. I feel like the only thing that we can. control is how we contextualize what.

happens, and therefore how we respond to what. happens. Does that answer that question? That definitely answers that question. I. love the multiple ways in which you gave. of rewiring that same thought with. different meaning and stories. Well, it. I think that's It forces us to be. creative, right? So, it's like we have. to challenge ourselves to see the same. exact thing from multiple points of. view. One of the things um we'll talk. about this a little later, but I often. love showing people um. optical illusions where you can see. multiple things in the same exact lines.

or drawings because it proves that we. can all look at the same facts and have. a completely different interpretation. Yes. Which therefore proves that the. situation is not what is bad or good, but the labels and the context and the. stories that we lay on top of it. Totally. Totally. I couldn't agree more. I think that's a great answer because. what you've triggered for me is that we. used to make when we don't find a. creative understanding of what's just. happened, and we don't think more.

objectively about why this has happened, what's the reason behind it. We're. basically good at making broad. generalizations based on very specific. situations. Yes. Right? We make this broad. generalization based of a very specific. situation. Like when you said, it could. have been because you applied to the. wrong job with the wrong type of work. with the wrong experience. Right. a very specific situation. Yes. And you make this broad generalization. like, I'm not meant to make it, right? That's right. Like, I'm done. I mean, you can look at the same kind of thing, let's say two people lose their job, which is absolutely not a good thing for.

most of us, right? We want to have a. living, we need to have the income, we. have the responsibility to our families. One person says, "That's it. I'm messed. up. I'm never going to work again. I'm. irrelevant." That and just starts being. and feeling down about themselves, sitting on the couch, sleeping in late, not doing anything productive to change. the situation. Same person loses the. job, says, "You know what? This is. awful, and this really hurts, and maybe this is the opportunity that. I've been looking for to start my own. business. Or maybe this is an.

opportunity to find a job that's going. to value me more and that I'm actually. going to like. Different context create. different actions, create different. outcomes. 100%. I love that. Great. onset. There's a There's a part in this. book that I really loved and it's you. talking about the difference between. fear and intuition and how we tell the. difference. Yes. Oh, I can't wait to talk about. and I love that section because I think. that's something that people struggle. with so much. Like being able So, it's so funny. We. talk about when we label things wrong. and one of the biggest things we label.

wrong is the voices in our head. Like. getting to be able to be aware of Wait, what Who's saying that in my head and. where's that coming from? Talk me. through that because I I love that part. So, fear versus intuition. So, many of. the times what stops us all from. figuring something out is we're afraid, right? We're afraid maybe we won't be. able to do it or we're just afraid of. the area that we need to walk into in. order to figure it out. And then people. often have asked me, you know, well, how. do I know the difference between healthy. fear that would be very good for me to.

move through versus my intuition or a. gut instinct or a hunch going, "No, no, no, no, no. That's actually going to be. a show." Right? Like or that's. going to just going to be it's it's. something you should not do. And that's. a really important question. Here's. what's awesome. You don't need to go. asking other people for the answer. You. have all of the wisdom you need inside. of you. And just to step back and to. create a context for why what I'm about. to share is so important for all of us. to practice and I still practice it to.

this day. We live in such a sedentary culture, right? Where we're spending 8, 10, sometimes 12 hours a day sitting, staring at our screens. So, we're living. from the neck up and many of us have. lost touch with the wisdom and the. intelligence that exists in our physical. bodies because simply we're not moving. enough. And as someone who's been a Nike. athlete, fitness is a big part of my. life, movement is a huge part of my. life. I see very clearly when I am. moving consistently, I have access, it's.

like a channel opens up where there is. so much intelligence and and so much. insight that is has nothing to do with. my logical reasonable brain. It has to. do with another plane. Yeah. And when I. don't, I get up here and it all gets. twisted and then I'm unclear. So, if you are facing an opportunity, a. possibility to say yes to a job, a. speaking engagement, a date, who knows, it could be any realm of life, and. you're not sure whether you should move. ahead with it, here's what you need to.

do. Get to a place where you're quiet. Nothing's around. Make sure that there's. no technology. And I would invite people. to close their eyes while they do this. So, ask yourself, does the idea of. moving ahead with this, of saying yes to. this, make me feel expansive. or contracted? Mhm. In the nanosecond. after you ask yourself that question, your body will have a physical response. So, let's walk through what expansive. who's listening and watching right now, do this with us.

Yes. So, expansive, and I'll just give. some um possibilities, but yours might. show up differently. So, expansive may. actually be as though your shoulders are. relaxing and your chest is opening up. Expansive may feel like even your. physical body is moving ahead in space. Expansive may feel like a twinge or a. tingle of excitement or joy or. anticipation. Even if the notion of this. feels intimidating to you or like. something you've never done before, there is a lightness, a moving forward,

a ever so subtle visceral yes, whether. it shows up in word form or merely. through the movement of your body. That's expansive. Now, let's look at the. flip side. If you ask yourself this. question, does the idea of saying yes to. this make me feel expansive or. contracted? And in the nanosecond after. you ask that question, you find. a pit in your stomach. or a sense of dread or your shoulders. kind of hunching forward or even your. body just shaking back in space or your.

head saying no. That's your intuition trying to save. your butt and tell you don't move ahead. with this. And here's why this is so. important, Jay. Because often when we're faced with an. opportunity that our ego thinks we. should move ahead with, right? Um either. there's a significant amount of money on. the line or some type of opportunity. that we feel will give us an edge, something beyond the competition or put. us on a level that we're playing in a. field that we're like, "Yeah, now we've.

really made it.". And it looks good on paper, but. something inside is like not right. That's when we need to listen to this. most and use this test because I don't. know if you've experienced this, when. you override. those little feelings of dread, even. though everything looks so cool on. paper, that's when we get ourselves into. trouble and get off track. That's. completely completely I've experienced. that in the same way. I can completely. everything you just said I was just like.

and and it's often the way the way I. describe it is I say to people like stop. trying to because people always ask me, "Do I listen to my head or my heart?". And I'm like, "Listen to your gut. Like. listen to the physical. Yes. the physical indicator.". There are neurons in there which you. know that are that have so much. intelligence and I think that all of us. have access to this innate wisdom, this. inner knowing, if we have the courage to. be still and to listen to it. And again, that takes some practice in a culture. that is constantly like this and this. and that's always like, "Well, what do.

you think I should do?" Or you know, "What's the money or what's the. opportunity or what am I going to get. from this?" Rather than trusting that. you have this innate tool inside that is. designed to guide you to your highest. and best everything. Absolutely. That's. such a beautiful answer and I'm so Thank. you for guiding us through that, too. Like I just Everyone who's listening and. watching, make sure you do that again. and again and again. Expansive or contracted, you can do it. anytime. you can just you know it straight away. That's the most beautiful thing about it. that no one has to tell you. You'll know.

it and you'll feel it and then you'll be. able to see patterns in that feeling, right? You'll be able to be like, I felt. that when I did that guy that I wasn't. sure about and then I felt it again when. I hired that person that wasn't meant to. be in my company and then right? Like Oh. my goodness, that's you just you laid. out perfectly. Some people often say, well, I don't know how to hear my. intuition. I'm like, oh, but you do. If. we go excavating through your past just. a little bit and we start surfacing up. times when you said yes to something but.

you kind of felt a little off about it. and then afterwards you're like, why did I say yes to that for? Look at. all of those times, that was your. intuition trying to save your butt. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. No, and I love that. Thank you for sharing. that. Thank you for making it so. practical and and physical and real. because I think we get Like you said, we. just get lost up in here. And I would. say in addition to that, too, if. someone's still if they do that exercise. and they're not quite clear on, you. know, expansive or contracted, do. something physical that has an intensity.

to it. So, I often go to a spin class if. because I it's dark and I can really. sweat and I can challenge myself in a. safe environment or dance or run or walk. around the block. I find that when I. engage my physical body, the interior. channels open up that tap me into a. higher source of intelligence that. otherwise I can't access. I think. learning to trust and hear your. intuition quicker and earlier in your. life and being able to spot the patterns. of good and bad. Yes. And I started to.

do that very early on. I started to. notice that. my intuition was always guiding me right. when I was going against the grain, doing things that no one else thought. were a good idea, and I was fully sold and confident about. it. So, I remember I took a gap year. before I went to university, and that. was all my friends went straight to. university, and it was like, "What are. you doing wasting time?" And this is. going to be And it was one of the best. years of my life. And then I chose to. become a monk when all my friends went. and worked at big companies. And again, it was against the grain, and it was And.

And these were patterns I started to. notice in my life. So, now when I come. to make a decision and I'm going against. the grain, no one agrees with me, and. I'm really confident about it. I'm like, "Oh, yeah, that's my intuition." Like, that's okay. Exactly. Instead of second-guessing every time. and going, "Oh, well, shouldn't everyone. agree with me if this is a good idea?". And so And I've noticed that even now. when I make that mistake now, there are. times with certain things where I think. I have less knowledge, Yes. external knowledge, Yes. and I'll go against my intuition. because I'll have less external. knowledge.

Absolutely, because you assume and I. went through this even with the process. of writing the book. You're like, "Oh, well, so-and-so knows better because. this is their business." And it's almost. like you give yourself a backseat and. you abdicate responsibility. I've done. that where you assume I've done that so. many times where I've, you know, wasted. money. Like, really good money and. really good time and, you know, creative. resources, same thing, thinking that. someone else knows better because I'm. less experienced. I love that you. brought that up. And of course, we're. all open to feedback, and of course,

we're all open to learning, but I think. when you have those inner. little red signals and flags going off, you trust yourself. Yeah, exactly. Trust. yourself. And And And otherwise, if you. if you made the mistake, make sure you. note that down. Like, write that down. somewhere. Like, I remember even. something as basic as if I do well in my. exams at school, I would never write. down why I did well. And then the next. year I'd be wondering, "Wow, did I. revise last year. that made me do well?" Yes. Right? And.

if you've done badly and you wrote down. why you did badly, next year when it. comes around to doing something again, you can avoid that same thing. So, I. just think it's so important. I'm so. glad that you wrote about that in the. book. And for anyone who loves this. theme that me and me and Murray both. fell in love with talking about, it's. better in the book. Not as in like. there's so much more in the book. Not. better, there's so much more in the. book. Yeah, I mean yeah, we have so many. exercises and things for for people to. do to to dive even deeper. Yeah, which I which I'm really excited. for people to check out. One of the. things that I love that you have a. chapter on this book is that it's called. start before you're ready. Yes. And when.

I read that, and I was just like, yes, this is exactly the advice. Like this is. what people need to hear. Yes. Because I think because of school. and because of our education system and. because of even when we used to go to. school we'd be like, are you ready to go. to school? It was always about being. ready. Right? It was like, do you have your. uniform on? Have you packed your bag? Have you got your pencil case? Like. first day of school syndrome. And it's. like, are you ready to go to school? And. it's almost like we're always in this. mode of like, I'm not ready yet. Yes.

Right? Whether it's educationally, whether it's emotionally, whether it's. mentally. And that kind of becomes one. of our biggest excuses to ourself of I'm. not ready. And I feel I was reflecting. on where did this come from when I was. reading the book. And for me, I think it. came from the education system of always. being ready before an exam, being ready. before a test. Everyone So, tell me a. bit about how you came to this place in. your life. Yes. you saw people at other people and their. stories of starting before they were. ready actually be the tool. Absolutely. In my own life, you know, when I was.

first training. in terms of wanting to be a coach and. becoming a coach, um it was so much in. terms of personal development work and. it was awesome. I loved working with. clients. I was like 23, 24 years old and. not only was I helping folks try and get. results in their own life, I was also. doing this work on myself. And one of. the things I realized was that defining. myself as a coach, first of all, it. never really quite felt right to me. It. felt very limiting and narrow and not. quite on.

But I admitted that I had this dream to. dance. Now, let's set some background. No dance. training whatsoever. Never taken a. formal dance class in my life. And it. was like I was around 24, 25, which. sadly in the professional dance world, it's a little over the hill to start, right? That's a very, very late start. And anyway, I finally got real with. myself that I wanted to do this. And so. I started taking professional dance. classes in New York City.

And it was amazing. I found myself. coming alive and coming alive and this. was great. And so I I um. was taking class at Crunch. Fitness. And my teachers were like, "You're actually really good." And I. remember Jay, I was literally like, "Are. you talking about me?" I was like, "What. is what Like I don't have any. technique." They're like, "No, no, no, you should really consider start. teaching." And I was like. No way. Yeah. Which given the fact that previous. to that I had, you know, failed on Wall. Street. I had failed in the magazine. industry. I had had all these failures.

and I was keeping myself alive quite. frankly cuz I wasn't earning a lot of. money as a coach by bartending and. waiting tables. So the fact that someone. thought I was good at something was that. just little grain of like, "Oh, you are. kind of good at something." It was. great. Cut to, I said, "All right, I'm. going to try out and become um a. substitute teacher at Crunch. I'm going. to teach these hip-hop classes." I had. no idea what the hell I was doing. so cool. So. Love that. it was just sheer passion, right? And I was just doing everything I. could, just trying to make it through.

One of my first classes ever that I. taught on my own, someone came up to me after class and. she said, "You're really good." And I. was like, "Thank you. That means the. world to me." She's like, "You know, I. work for MTV and we're working on a new. show and we are looking for a. choreographer/producer. You should come. in." And Jay, it was a moment. Like this. was my first real class ever. Again, so. like nervous and awkward and unsure of. myself. So, what came through my head? You're not ready yet. That I was like I was even praying. I.

was like, "Universe, why did this have. to happen? I am certainly not ready. I'm. not good. I don't know what the hell's. going on, but this is amazing. opportunity cuz I grew up on MTV.". So, I couldn't say no, right? Because. again, I could hear my inner clock going. like, "Girl, you're not getting any. younger, so you might as well say yes.". So, I said yes to this opportunity. And. I remember standing outside of the. Viacom building in New York City the day. before I was like when I was about to go. up for this interview that afternoon. And Jay, I wanted to throw up. Like I. was so nauseous. I was so not ready.

Like I was actually thinking, "Should I. throw up in this like metal trash can or. should I like go inside and go to the. bathroom so that I can clean myself up. before I actually went to the. interview?". So, I went to the building and um I. stood in front of the boss's door, the. the the person who I was going to. interview with, and I like shook myself. out, and I just said, "You are not. ready, but you're going to start before. you're ready because this is an. incredible opportunity, and no matter. what happens, you're going to feel good. about yourself that you just went for. it." And I went in for that interview,

and I booked the job. Wow. And so, it. was this experience of me. putting myself into a kind of this whole. world that I was in over my head. So, let's be clear. I was working with. dancers that had decades more experience. than I did. They were talking about. dance terms that not only could I not. perform, I didn't even know what the. hell they were. But I made my way through by showing up. as professionally as I could, by being. honest about my inexperience, but also.

by bringing my gifts that I did have to. the table. And that one opportunity, dancing and choreographing and producing. for MTV, that led to fitness videos. That led to this increased learning. curve where I got to learn basically 3. to 4 years worth of experience in like. three months, which eventually led to me. choreographing commercials for Reebok. and then eventually becoming um one of. the world's first Nike elite dance. athletes. All because I was willing to.

start before I was ready. And every. single area of my life, I still do it in. business to this day. There's so many. things I say yes to that I'm like. somewhere in the back of my mind like. you're not ready yet and I'm like that. means I got to go. That means I got to. strap myself in and go like we're doing. this. I will learn as I go. Yeah. So, this idea of starting before we're. ready, it doesn't mean that we're. irresponsible. Mhm. Doesn't mean that we. don't do our research and it doesn't. mean that we override our intuition that. if perhaps, you know, there was years. ago and I'll say this that people.

approached me to write a book and I. legitimately wasn't ready yet, but it. was because my focus was in other areas. I had other priorities. I knew. from a deeper level it wasn't about the. fear, it was about trusting my own. timing. Yes. But when you know you want. to do something and you're clear that. this is your path. using the mantra start before you're. ready is an amazing way to beat. procrastination, to leapfrog over your. fear and to get going. Yeah. And to push.

out of that desire of perfection. Yes. and planning and what we were saying. earlier of like just having this. addiction, like perfection addiction of. like. Yes. everything's going to be perfect. before I start. Yes. Everything's going to be in right in. place and and I can so, so agree with. you. I I remember getting my first book. offer to me after my first ever video. and by one of my first viral videos and. I was approached by a an amazing. publisher that I would have dreamt of. being published by before and they were. like we'd love you to do a book and and. when I sat there and and it wasn't that.

again, same as what you're saying. I just knew at that time that my focus. had to be something else. It wasn't and. and it was that I wouldn't I didn't. really know what I'd want to write a. book about in full. Like that's how. unready I was. Like it wasn't like I had. no idea. I was like, but I want to focus. on this. I want to build this and then I. will come to that, rather than like. actually I'm not going to do anything. right now because I'm not ready yet. That's right. And I think that that. discernment and and digging into this. nuance is so important for people to. hear because yeah, you know, starting.

before you're ready doesn't mean that. you're going to throw your life into. chaos. Totally. But I think for anyone. listening who feels stuck and you we all. have felt that, right? Where you're just. like. Like I really want to do it. Start. before you're ready will kick start you. into action and action really is the. antidote to fear. 100% 100% and you have. this graph in your book as well. You. this little squiggle. Oh, progress. versus perfection. And and it's true like when you start. before you're ready, you are going to. have a lot more of this and a lot more.

of this. Yes. don't start, you're not going to have. anything, right? Like you're just there. like you're this dot. I think people. have this mistaken notion that if you're. making real progress, legitimate. progress towards a particular goal, people see it as a line that goes. straight up on a graph. So like you. start at the bottom, started from the. bottom and now we're here, right? But. it's like all neat and tied together. In. my experience and what I've seen just. working with so many people is progress. actually goes up and then it reverses.

and then it goes down and then it goes. in some circles and then it reverses and. then it goes up and then it goes down. again. So progress is this squiggly line. and so many of us feel that if we fall. on our faces, which I've done so many. times, we feel that if we hit a wall, which I've done so many times, that. we're not making progress, but that's. untrue. Can I tell a quick story? Yeah, please. I'd love to hear one. So. um. one of our B-Schoolers. So So B-School. is a program that I've been doing for a. decade. It's it's online business school. for modern entrepreneurs. We've had over. 55,000 people go through the program.

So it's about Thank you. Thank you for. that. I want to I'll a story about one. of our B-Schoolers cuz so perfectly. illustrates what we're talking about. So, a woman named Molly, she had seen a. video I did with another grad where this. grad was going like, "I had my first. $30,000 a month." And so, Molly saw. that, she was like, "Wait, what? Like, I. had never even knew that was possible.". So, it opened up a possibility for her. that she had never recognized before. I. think that's why it's so important for. us to witness each other in what's.

possible cuz sometimes you can't see. what you don't You know, you can't. become what you don't see. So, Molly. said, "I would love to have my own. business." She didn't have an idea for a. business. She had no business. experience. It was just this little seed. of a dream, like many of us have around. a relationship or our health or creative. project. We don't know how we're going. to do it. We have no experience doing. it, but we want that thing, like dance. for me. Mhm. So, Molly did the program fine, fine, fine. She worked for 2 years, Jay, and. she kept failing.

Business wasn't working. She was do She. showed up in the program. She's trying. everything. Not working, not working, not working. And she wrote to us and she. was so disappointed in herself. And we. said, "Hey, don't be Like, you're you're. actually making progress. Hang out.". Like, we gave her some coaching. We. advised her to go into our member area. and talk with the community. She. actually took the feedback from. everyone. She retooled and then we. didn't hear from her for a little while. Cut to year three. We get an email from. Molly. "You are not going to believe this." And.

we're just like, "Okay, what's. happening, girl?". In 1 month, she had more than doubled. that She's like, "I just brought in. $66,000.". She actually had a real working. business. She had completely surpassed. what her original inspiration was that. was so far beyond anything that she. could have comprehended at that point, but it didn't happen until well into. year three. And the reason I want to. tell this story is this. So many of us. have this mistaken idea that in that.

year or that 2 years that we're not. actually making progress, but we are. Yeah. Right? Yes. And if she hadn't kept going, she would. have never realized that little seed of. a dream that was originally there, that. was real, but she had to go through the. squiggles like we all do. Yeah. before we keep getting to that. next level. So, I just want to tell that. progress, not perfection. If you are. making progress in any regard, if you. are learning something, even if it's a. tough lesson, if you are moving forward, if you are making adjustments and.

evolving or iterating, guess what? You're making progress. Yeah. Keep going. Absolutely. Absolutely. This is one of the things. when when we were amongst the way we. would It was we were trying to rewire. our brain this way was planting seeds. And so, when you actually plant a. seedling and then you water every day. and you make sure it gets sun, you realize that thing doesn't grow. No. days. It's under the surface. It's under the. surface. cuz the roots having a spread, Yes. trying to grow underneath in the. foundation. And you're going, "God, when. is this thing going to grow?" And then.

you finally see it grow. Yes. And then. it just looks like this little weak. thing and you're like, "Oh God, like. that's never going to grow into anything. significant." And then it grows and. grows and grows and finally it grows and. then you see flowers and then you see. fruits. And it's almost like that fruit. you were never going to get that fruit. if you gave up watering it on day two. Or you picked out that little seedling. on week three because you're like, "Man, that's not working. It's not going fast. enough.". it. Yeah, you just ignore it. And And. it's just like you have to rewire your.

brain for that patience and persistence. and what you're saying, progress not. perfection. That's right. Because you're not going to get that. fruit, that flower, that paycheck, that. $66,000. you know, reward, whatever it is, if if you're impatient and forcing it, you can't force it to grow. I could I. could even over-water it for one day and. that would actually destroy its growth. Yeah. And And that's And And so, that's. where I always wonder, when. and how do we figure out if we've pushed.

too much, spent too much money, and now. it's like maybe this isn't for you, or. is the goal wrong, or is the process. wrong, or tell me about that other. extreme. I love this. So, this is kind of getting. into the the nitty-gritty. So, I would. say um the conversation that we had a. little bit ago about intuition is really. important here because it's going to be. different. And I think it's also. important to make the distinction that. giving up isn't the same thing as moving. on. Mhm. There is something known as the. power of positive quitting. So, another.

quick story. So, I remember earlier on. in my career before I had um a team and. had resources, and again, I've been. doing this for 20 years, so we're. talking like back in the early days when. I was still doing all my own customer. service, it was basically me and like a. virtual assistant, that was it. I had. this idea to build a custom membership. site, and this is way back in the day. when that's like unheard of. And I think. the thing cost me like $5,000, which was. like $5,000 that I did not have at that. time, so that was an enormous First of. all, that's still a lot of money, and it.

was an enormous scary investment for me. at that time. It was a new coaching. program. And um I had was so excited that a bunch. of people said yes to this coaching. program, and they were starting to log. in, and Jay, the thing melted down. It. crashed. It was such a hot mess, and I. was just not only was I mortified, but. customer experience and customer service. and taking care of people is everything. to me. Like, that's my heart and soul. And I just remember going like, you.

know, this is not going to work. This is it. Like, I I'm going to quit not as a. coach, but I'm going to get people off. of this really shitty platform. I'm. going to put them on a hosted platform. I am going to over-deliver and take care. of them, but I'm not going to keep. pouring money into this or beating. myself up because, you know, this thing. crashed and burned. I'm going to take. the lessons from it and I'm going to. pivot and move on. So, I think when it. comes to understanding whether or not. you're kind of done with something and.

you're ready to move on, I think people. have to get honest with themselves about. their motivation. Mhm. So, one of the things that I've. seen, especially as it relates to career. and especially business, when folks start a business purely to. make money, that's when it never works. So, I always. like to invite people never start a. business to make money, start a business. to make a difference. Yeah. And all of us as entrepreneurs and. creatives and multi-passionate. creatives, we need to stay nimble and.

evolve because the market's evolving, technology's evolving, we're evolving as. humans and as is the market. But if you're trying to push something. that in your heart of heart you're not. truly committed to and you're just. trying to get some external reward like. fame, recognition, the dollar bills, whatever it could be, it's not going to. work. Definitely. I think I'm so glad. that you spoke about that because I. couldn't agree more. I I always say to. people like if you're pushing to make. something happen and you're doing it to. make a difference or an impact or a. service, that actually keeps driving.

you. And if you've lost that drive for. something, it's probably because that's not the. reason why you were doing it, right? Because otherwise you wouldn't lose the. drive for it if it was that meaningful. to you. And so, I've always said to. people I have right now I probably have. and I'll be I'll give a genuine honest. number, I won't give an amplified. number. I probably have ideas for three. other things I could be doing that I. think could be huge financially. Like. I'm convinced that I have three ideas. that have been verified by venture. capitalists and all the rest of it that. I know would be financially very. successful. But I couldn't die for any.

of them. Like I don't really care if. I did them. Like someone else could take. them and make money from them, I'd be. okay. Like but what I'm doing right now, what we're doing right now, that's. something I'm willing to die for. Like. that's something that I'm committed to. It's something that I've worked very. hard to do and I've been driven by that. service or that impact or that. difference. And I think that for all of us, you. know, if someone's thinking about, you. know, God, have I hit the ceiling on it? That's the really good litmus test. between you and you. You know, again, I.

had side jobs for 7 years as I was. starting this business. I mean, everything from bartending, waiting. tables, cleaning people's toilets. I. taught a lot. I did anything I possibly. could because the coaching and the. creating and the writing and the. connecting with others, like that was my. dream. And no matter how long it was. going to take, I didn't even know if it. would eventually work. That's the truth. of it. I had no idea. But I was fine. eating my mac and cheese and my peanut. butter and jelly because I was really. doing the thing that I felt like I was.

meant to do in the world. Yeah, I love. that. I'm so glad you did that. Mhm, me too. glad you pushed through and I'm so glad. and and this is why I say to everyone, it's like, when I'm hearing you say all. of that, I'm just like, I'm so glad. because. it just makes the story better. Right? Like all those situations. And what I. mean by that is not from a marketing. point of view, not from a sales point of. view, but that's what we can all connect. with. Yes. The multiple jobs at the same time, like the multiple rejections, the ups. and the downs, that's what everyone's. story is, but for some reason we look at. all these posters and we think, oh yeah,

but they didn't have that. And that's. just because we don't do enough. research. I feel like we don't actually. dive so deeply into the people we admire. and really look at their backstories and. really look at their failures and. rejections. Because otherwise then we'd. see that we're on the same path. The same exact path. And I think one of. the things you've probably noticed this. too because you've had such incredibly. rich conversations with just so many. incredible people. You know, is every. person on the planet has their own. struggles even right now. No matter what.

you're saying, like people are battling. things privately and that's their right. to, you know, not everyone has to share. everything. But, you know, no matter how. much perceived power or fame or money. someone has, it's like they're having. hard times, too. Mhm. And they have the. self-doubt, and they have the fear, and. they have. their own versions of of struggles. And. I think when we realize that, we stop. putting people on pedestals and start. recognizing that we have so much more in. common than we do in terms of our.

differences. Absolutely. Thank you, Marie. So, I end every interview with. final five questions. Oh, bring it on. A final five rapid-fire. round, quick-fire round. So, you have to. answer with either one word or one. sentence maximum. Okay, I'm up for the. challenge. And and and I'll go off. tangent if I feel if you say something. and I'm like, "Oh, it's usually me who. ruins it for the guest." But, here we. go. So, the first thing is first thing. you say to yourself when you wake up in. the morning. Good morning. I love In that voice? Kind of. Like, in.

my own head. I don't say it out loud, but I'm like, "All right, good morning, girl.". I love that. The last thing you say to. yourself before you go to bed. So tired. I like it. Thank you for the honesty. Uh. third question, the best advice you've. ever received. That. your heart is the strongest part of you. Nice. Uh fourth question, the worst. advice you've ever received. Hm. I. The sentence I'm going to say, I feel like my brain must have deleted.

it cuz I literally have nothing right. now. Oh, nice. Okay, that's good. It. must have deleted it cuz I'm like, Oh, I can't think of it. Yes. Yeah. I. like it. That's awesome. And the fifth. and final question is, what are your. What are three truths that you live by? So, one is obviously everything is. figureoutable. Everything is figureoutable. Um the next truth is there is nothing. more important. in this world for any of us than the. quality of our relationships and our. connections. That, and I think that um. the third thing.

Clarity comes from engagement, not. thought. Hm. Explain that. I want to hear more of. that. So, so many times for many of us. we have these notions of what could be. possible or what we might want to do or. what something could feel like, but we. spend so much time in our minds rather. than actively engaging to discover it. So, rather than pro-con lists or rather. than, you know, sitting on the couch. kind of going, "Oh, I don't know if I. should." I think. living by this idea that clarity comes.

from engagement, not thought, gets us. out into the world, gets us physically. engaged, and activates this open channel. within to feel our way into our truth. rather than think our way into what we, you know, have a notion is this going to. make me happy or not. And I feel like. when we lead from this, when we lead. from our heart, and we tell our truth. from engagement, that's where the magic. is. That's great advice. I love that. Thank you so much. Marie was telling me, and this is interesting to me because. I'm working on my book right now. Marie. was telling me that there was a ton of.

stuff that actually didn't make it into. her book. Now, whenever I hear stuff. like that, I'm like, "That's the stuff I. really want to know about." Because if. an author creates something and it. doesn't get in there, not because it's. not good enough, but because it's. context, space, whatever it is. Tell me. Tell us about why. Yeah, so it was this. amazing chapter that I had worked for. weeks on. And my publisher, who I really. trust, and my editor, they're like, "Oh, well, we felt the natural ending was. here." And no, no, no. And I was like, yeah, at first I was crestfallen. It. felt like a punch in the gut. And then,

when I relooked at the material, I was. like, "Oh, no. I think I could actually. teach this better if I had the benefit. of my voice, and I had videos, and I. actually had worksheets, and could. actually coach people through it." So, it was this acronym, this little formula. I created to help people embed the. belief, everything is figureoutable, into their consciousness, into their. mind, into their soul in a really. organic way. So, I said to myself, "Okay, I actually still want to give. this to folks, but I want to do it for. free, and just teach everyone. There's.

no upsells, there's no anything. It's. just another part of the book that just. didn't make it into the pages that I. actually feel will be more effective if. done collectively and done um online. So, there's behavioral science, there's. neuroscience that backs all of this up. And so, it's free. It's happening. October 14th. If you just go to. everythingisfigureoutable.com, you'll see a little link and if you're. interested, you can totally take the. course completely on me and with um you. know, tens of thousands of other people. and you'll learn this five-step formula.

that will help you figure everything out. and embed the belief into your mind and. soul. I love that. That's so awesome. I'm so glad you're doing that, especially with the point of embedding. it into your Yeah. psychology. Well, cuz. my friend asked me, she's like, "Well, this is great cuz you learn this belief. as a child, which we talk about in the. book, and it's been my own internal. operating system for so long." And she's. like, "Yeah, but how can you help it be. mine?" And I was like, "Oh, I got you. I. got you." And so, that's what we did. We. created a little system for people and I. talk about it like it's an emergency. first aid kit or like a life preserver.

If you ever forget that everything is. figureoutable or you find yourself. feeling stuck or overwhelmed or just. unsure how to move ahead, you'll have. this wonderful little tool that you can. use for life and it's free and it's all. yours. Amazing. And when and where do. they sign up? So, go to. everythingisfigureoutable.com. and there'll be a link about the course. And again, it's 100% free. You can. invite your friends. Just come do it. Everyone who's been listening and. watching, let's give a huge round of. applause in our hearts for Marie. That. was amazing. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me on. Everything.

out is figureoutable is out on September. 10th. If you're listening to this right. now, I'm guessing the book is already. out or about to be out. Make sure you go. and pre-order if you are hearing this. before and if it's already out, make. sure you go and buy the book to dive. deeper into this conversation. If you. want to overcome your fears, if you want. to understand how to get started before. you're ready, if you want to know how to. make progress even without feeling that. you're perfect, which none of us are, and if you actually want to start. driving towards your dream, this is the. book for you. Make sure you go and get. it. Don't hesitate.

to buy this book. This conversation. should have given you the insights into. the kind of things that are inside. There's so many more incredible stories. that I've read inside the book that I. can't wait for you to hear because the. more you fill your life up with those. stories, the more you'll be able to. believe that everything is. figureoutable. So, thank you so much. again, Marie. Thank you, Jay. Thank you for being. here. Thank you for who you are in the. world. You're so amazing. I adore you. Thank you. thank you, sweets. Thank you for. watching and listening, everyone. Make. sure you share this episode. What I'd. love for you to do is find the one. thing, the one thing that Marie said.

that you're not going to just think. about or post on Instagram, but you're. going to experiment with. I don't do. want you to post it across Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, wherever you're. active and share what it was that she. said that you're testing out this week. Go get the book and I can't wait to see. you again next week. Thanks for. listening. If you want even more videos. just like this one, click on the boxes. over here. And if you want to continue. seeing these kinds of stories, you can. subscribe by clicking the link right. here.